1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: Happy Saturday. Coming up on the show, we're going to 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: be talking about somebody who got a lot of discussion, 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: a lot of things written about him shortly after his 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: death or during his life, but some of that work 5 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: is often attributed to Daniel Defoe. We mentioned in this 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 1: upcoming episode that there are some other purportedly factual writings 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 1: that may have been Defoe's work, may or may not 8 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: have really been by de Foe are actually accurate, and 9 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: that is something that is part of today's Saturday classic 10 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: On and Body and Mary Read. This episode originally came 11 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: out on August Enjoy Welcome to Stuff You Missed in 12 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: History Class, a production of I Heart Radio. Hello, and 13 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: welcome to the podcast. I'm Tracy Vie Wilson and I'm 14 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: Holly Frying. You know what we haven't talked about in 15 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: a while? What pirates? It has been a bit and 16 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: who does I know? And so today we have the 17 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: much requested duo of and Bonnie and Mary Read, and 18 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: it's like, really a lot, a lot of requests. Most 19 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: of the pirates we have talked about on the show 20 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: have been captains of their own ships, or in the 21 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: case of Chungy South from the Sarah and Debilina years 22 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: a whole fleet of ships. As a side note, I 23 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: listened to the beginning of that podcast the other day. 24 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: I have listened to it before, but I was really 25 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 1: listening to the beginning beginning of it. And Sarah and 26 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: Doublina also mentioned that they also got a lot of 27 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: requests for and Bonnie and Mary Read and so people 28 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: have been asking for that for quite a while. Uh. 29 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: Bonnie and Read though, they were members of another pirate's crew, 30 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: and they were made famous by a book called A 31 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: General History of the Pirates from their first rise and 32 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: settlement of the Island of Providence to the present time. 33 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: And that book is where most of the information on 34 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: their lives came from. So we're also going to talk 35 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: about that book itself in today's show. And so you're 36 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: probably going to notice when we're talking about the early 37 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: lives of these two women that we are being weirdly vague. 38 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: It is it possible that at about two o'clock yesterday afternoon, 39 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: I am Holly and said, I understand why no one 40 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: did this yet, uh, because it's weirdly vague. And we 41 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: are going to talk about why it is weirdly vague 42 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: in the third act of today's show when we talk 43 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: about this book that made and Bonnie and Mary Read 44 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: quite famous. So we'll start with Mary Reid, who was 45 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: most likely born in England, and although there's no historical 46 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: documentation to substantiate it, according to a general history of pirates, 47 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: her mother married a sailor and had a son, and 48 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: that sailor didn't return from a voyage, and Mary Reid's mother, 49 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: still living with her in laws, later became pregnant and 50 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: enough time had passed that her depart husband could not 51 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: have been the father, So to avoid the stigma of 52 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: having a child out of wedlock, she went away to 53 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: the country. Before she was born, Mary's half brother died, 54 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: and then after her birth, Mary's mother stayed in the 55 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: country with her until she started to run out of money. 56 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: Then she went back to London with the hope of 57 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 1: leaving the young Mary with her late husband's mother. Disguised 58 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: as her late son. She was basically trying to pass 59 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: her daughter off as her now deceased son to her 60 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: mother in law. Mary's purported grandmother in this situation didn't 61 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: agree to take her off her mother's hands, but she 62 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: did offer them some money to help with expenses, which 63 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: meant that Mary had to continue to masquerade as her 64 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: own deceased half brother, and this went on until Mary's 65 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: grandmother died when Mary was about thirteen years old, and 66 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: her mother, who by this point had filled her in 67 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: about her actual parentage, decide did that she should continue 68 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: her life of disguise, and so Mary went to work 69 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: as a footboy. However, before long, Mary got tired of 70 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: that job and decided to go to see herself, hoping 71 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: to win a commission. That did not work out, though, 72 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: so she spent some time in a military regiment, still 73 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: disguised as a man, and there she met her future husband, 74 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: who was a fellow soldier who she quote allowed to 75 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: discover that she was really a woman. When they got married, 76 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: she quit military life and for a while she abandoned 77 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: her disguise. Her husband, however, died not long after they married, 78 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: and Mary Reid decided to head for the Caribbean, and 79 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: according again to the general history of pirates, Reid resumed 80 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: her disguise and fell in with another pirate crew first, 81 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: but the historical record seems to suggest that she stayed 82 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 1: on the right side of the law until for unknown reasons, 83 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: she disguised herself as a man and joined the crew 84 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: of John Rackham, a k A. Calico Jack. And there 85 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: was another woman on Calico j a ship, and that 86 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: woman was Anne Bonnie. As for Anne, Bonnie's early upbringing, 87 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: and Bonnie was reportedly born near Cork in Ireland, she 88 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: was also an illegitimate child, the illegitimate child of an attorney, 89 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: and that attorney is reported by some people to be 90 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: William Cormick, although this is really unsubstantiated. Bonnie's mother is 91 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: reported to have been one of the household maids in 92 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: this attorney's home. Also under the cold the category of 93 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: reportedly here is that her father eventually took Anne to 94 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: live with him, but disguised her as a boy, supposedly 95 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: a relative that he was training to be a clerk. 96 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: And he did this to avoid raising the suspicions of 97 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: his estranged wife, who knew that he had had an 98 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: affair with the maid, but did not know that that 99 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: affair had produced Anne. It's all very confusing. There's there's 100 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: so much uh draft egg and like shifted identities and 101 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: I want to see, yeah, I do want to clarify 102 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: that for both of these women. I mean, according to 103 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 1: every historical account, these were disguises and not expressions of 104 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: their gender. Uh. This ruse, by the way, did not work. 105 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: His wife found out what was going on, so Ann's 106 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: father and and AND's mother the maid relocated from Ireland 107 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: to Charleston, South Carolina, where they all lived until Ann's 108 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: mother died when Anne was thirteen. Thirteen seems to be 109 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: the magic age to lose a relative in this story. Yeah, yeah, 110 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: they are very similar according to general history of the pirates. 111 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: When Anne took her mother's place running the household, there 112 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: were rumors that she had an incredibly bad temper. One 113 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 1: of these rumors was that she actually killed a serving 114 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: maid with like a table knife. Another rumor was that 115 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: she had beaten a man who tried to sexually assault 116 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: her basically senseless. It's possible that, in this behavior and 117 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: the habit that she developed of carousing with pirates, that 118 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: Anne was inspired by Grace O'Malley, which is an Anglicized 119 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: version of the Irish name Grannemalia Uh O'Malley plundered off 120 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: the coast of Ireland in the sixteenth century and had 121 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: a reputation for being incredibly fierce. She also in case 122 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: you are wondering or are about to write in, is 123 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: already a frequently requested podcast topic. Anne's father, frustrated by 124 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: her behavior and the impact that it was having on 125 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: his business, arranged a marriage for her, but instead she 126 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: got married to a sailor named John Bonnie. In seventeen eighteen, 127 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: they went to the Bahamas, where John Bonnie started to 128 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: work for Governor Woods Rogers as an informant against pirates. Essentially, 129 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: he would turn pirates into the governor to get the 130 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: reward money. And there's another version of that story as 131 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: well that Anne wanted to go to the Bahamas on 132 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: her own, so she hired a woman to tend to 133 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: be her mother's so that she could book passage, and 134 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: then she met John Bonnie and married him after she 135 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: was already in the Bahamas. So two differing accounts regardless. 136 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: At some point during their time in the Bahamas, and 137 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: Bonnie also fell in with Calico Jack Rackham and the 138 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: two began an affair. When John Bonnie found out about it, 139 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: Rackham offered to pay him to divorce her, but he 140 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: refused to grant that divorce. Ultimately, Anne abandoned her husband 141 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: and joined Rackham on his pirate ship, although she did 142 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: leave it temporarily to give birth to their child in Cuba, 143 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: and then she rejoined the ship later. And we're going 144 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: to talk about and Bonnie and Mary Reid's brief lives 145 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: with Calico Jack after we first pause and have a 146 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: word from one of our sponsors. By seventeen twenty, both 147 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 1: and Bonnie and Mary read were part of John Rackham 148 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: a k a. Calico Jack Rackham's crew. As for Rackham, 149 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: he had served as quartermaster under another pirate named Charles Vain, 150 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: aboard Vain's ship, the briganteam Uh. During this time of 151 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: the crew, the brigantine came across a French man of 152 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: war that Rackham and several of the rest of the 153 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: crew wanted to take over, but Vain refused. The members 154 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: of the crew, who rejected this decision from their captain 155 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: all rallied around Rackham. They deposed Vain, They put him 156 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: and the rest of the naysayers aboard a small sloop Uh, 157 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: leaving the Brigantine under Rackham's command instead. On two different occasions, 158 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: after taking over the Brigantine, Jack Rackham actually gave up 159 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: piracy and took the King's pardon. He was also briefly 160 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: a privateer. However, he just kept returning to piracy, and 161 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: the last time he did it was because, purportedly, it 162 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: was discovered that Anne Bonnie was again pregnant with his 163 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: child while still married to John Bonnie, and they had 164 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 1: been threatened with whipping if they continued their affairs, so 165 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: they just left. On August seventeen twenty, Jack Rackham and 166 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: Bonnie and Mary Reid were all part of a party 167 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: that stole a sloop called the William, which belongs to 168 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: a man named John Ham. Sadly that is, with only 169 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: one m and not two. They took on a crew 170 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: of twelve and began sailing the William around the Bahamas, 171 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: plundering as they went. They mostly for a while went 172 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: after small fishing boats, and they would just take the 173 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: fish and the tackle and then be on their way. 174 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: Reid struck up a relationship with one of the other pirates, 175 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: although he is never named in any of the the accounts, 176 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: she was apparently fond enough of him that when he 177 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: was challenged to a duel by another pirate, she challenged 178 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: that pirate to her own duel two hours before and 179 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: killed him on the spot. Sources disagree about whether Bonnie 180 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: and Read maintained their disguises while aboard rackham ship. In 181 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: some versions, they made no effort to hide their gender, 182 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: but they did don more masculine clothing when they were 183 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: raiding other ships, basically because it was more practical. Others 184 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: claimed that they steadfastly disguised themselves until they were eventually 185 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: bought brought to trial, even though Rackham of course new 186 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: Bonnie was a woman because he was in relationship with her. 187 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: Still others claimed that they wore men's clothing, but still 188 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: were very obviously to any outside observer women. A General 189 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: History of Pirates seems to change its mind on this score, 190 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: Like within the same paragraph, I kept having to go 191 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: back and be like, no, but it said, but that's 192 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: that's not what it said two sentences. On October nineteen, 193 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: Rackham and crew captured a British schooner called the Neptune, 194 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: stealing its cargo, which included fifty rolls of tobacco. The 195 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: next day, they captured and kept the British schooner Mary 196 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: and Sarah h. When they realized they didn't have enough 197 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: crew to manage three ships, they let some of their 198 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: prisoners go aboard the Neptune, and at about the same 199 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: time they also robbed a canoe crewed by a woman 200 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: named Dorothy Thomas, who rack'em let go over, Bonnie and 201 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: reads objections that she might report them to the authorities. 202 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: That they didn't really need to be worried about that, 203 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 1: because the authorities already knew Governor. Governor Woods Rogers had 204 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 1: heard about Rackham's piratical activities that at this point, we're 205 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: off the coast of Jamaica, and on September five he 206 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: had dispatched the privateer captain Jonathan Barnett to take care 207 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,239 Speaker 1: of it, Bonnie and read, we're on deck. When Barnett's 208 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: ship found and approached them on October of seventeen twenty. 209 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: By this time, the crew, for reasons that are not clear, 210 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: had shrunk from twelve people to seven, and most of 211 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: the crew had spent much of the night drinking with 212 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: the crew of a turtling boat that they had come 213 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: across and invited aboard. Rackham gave the order to flee, 214 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: but ultimately they were overtaken, so most of Rackham's crew 215 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: were intoxicated when Barnett ordered them to surrender. Bonnie and Read, however, 216 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: refused to surrender, and also, we're not intoxicated, and they 217 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: were at least not intoxicated enough to not fight. They 218 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: fought back with pistols and blades until they were captured. 219 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: Read was purportedly so incensed at the fact that the 220 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: two of them were basically the only ones offering any 221 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: resistance that she yelled below decks for the men to 222 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 1: come up and fight, and when no one answered her, 223 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: she fired into the hold, killing one of Rackham's crew 224 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: in the process. I was going to liken this to 225 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: like those projects that happened sometimes when you're in school 226 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: or at work with a team and you do all 227 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: the work, but you usually you don't kill your other 228 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: team members. Uh. Bonnie and Reid's attempt to hold off 229 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: Barnett's crew was unsuccessful. The William and the Mary and Sarah, 230 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: which they were still keeping as a prize, we're both captured. 231 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: Two frenchmen who had been forced into service testified against 232 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: them and were allowed to go. Trials for Rackham and 233 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 1: his crew began on November sixteenth, seventeen twenty, and they 234 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: were all found guilty and hanged. Rackham's last request was 235 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: to get to see a Bonnie one last time, but 236 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: she had no patience for him at all, purportedly saying, quote, 237 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: if you had fought like a man, you need not 238 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: have been hanged like a dog. Bodies of Rackham and 239 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: two of his crew were then displayed in chains along 240 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: the coast as a warning to other pirates, and Bonnie 241 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: and Mary Reid were tried on November. According to the 242 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: General History of Pirates, quote, two other pirates were tried 243 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: that belonged to Rackham's crew and being convicted, were brought 244 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: up and asked if either of them had anything to say, 245 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: why sentence of death should not pass upon them in 246 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: like manner as had been done to all the rest, 247 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: And both of them pleaded their bellies, being quick with child, 248 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: and prayed that execution might be stayed her upon the 249 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: court past sentence as in cases of piracy, but ordered 250 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: them back till a proper jury should be appointed to 251 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: inquire into the matter. So both women were spared execution 252 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: because they were pregnant, and then sent to prison, and 253 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: Bonnie apparently survived her time in prison, but it's really 254 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: unclear what happened her after that. She basically disappears from 255 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: the historical record, Mary Read died possibly of a fever 256 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: or possibly possibly due to complications of childbirth before being 257 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: released from prison. She's probably the same Mary Read who 258 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: was mentioned in a death record from April seventeen twenty one. So, uh, 259 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: Next up, we're going to talk about why is this 260 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: episode so weirdly vague and what is up with the 261 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: book that Tracy did used for a lot of the 262 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: research we're going to talk about all of that. Of 263 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: a first, we will pause once again for a word 264 00:15:53,400 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: from one of our fantastic sponsors. So A General History 265 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: of the Pirates from their first rise and settlement in 266 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: the Island of Providence to the present time was published 267 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: under the name of Captain Charles Johnson. The addition that 268 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: is cited most often is the second edition, which is 269 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: significantly expanded from the first edition. Both of them were 270 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: published in seventeen twenty four. A whole second volume came 271 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: out in seventy eight, and this book was hugely popular 272 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: in its day. There were four editions in print by 273 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: seventeen twenty six, and then multiple versions and multiple other 274 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: languages as well. Historians generally agree that Captain Charles Johnson 275 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: is a pseudonym. And there's some debate about who actually 276 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: wrote this book. It's often attributed to Daniel Dafoe of 277 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: Robinson Crusoe and Maul Flanders fame. Uh. The first person 278 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: that made that connection was John Robert Moore into and 279 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: it's common enough that a lot of sources say it's 280 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: by Daniel Dafoe without including any qualifiers to that assertion. 281 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: One other candidate is Nathaniel Missed, who was a sailor 282 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: before becoming a printer and a journalist. And there's definitely 283 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: no documentation of any Captain Charles Johnson. Yeah, a lot 284 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: of a lot of places just take completely for granted 285 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: that it was Daniel Dafoe who wrote it. But apparently 286 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: John Robert Moore's methodology was basically, hey, you know who's 287 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: writing this? Sounds like to me Daniel Dafoe. I bet 288 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: Daniel Dafoe wrote this like that. And there there's there's 289 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: more of a paper trail that says maybe it's a 290 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 1: Nathaniel mr or some other person than Daniel Dafoe, which 291 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: seems to be mostly like a gut instinct. So, I mean, 292 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: based on all of this nebulosity about who wrote it 293 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: and the fact of the things that we've read, I mean, 294 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: we can really just take for granted that at least 295 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: some of this book is embellished. Even so, it crops 296 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: up again and again and again as source material about 297 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: lots of pirates who lived up through the early eighteenth century, 298 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: including some other previous subjects from our podcast, including Blackbeard 299 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 1: and Steve Bonnet. So, in addition to being like a 300 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: go to source that just is cited over and over, 301 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: it basically standardized a lot of the things that we 302 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: think of as the golden age of piracy. And it's 303 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: sort of standardized the image of a lot of these 304 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: particular pirates, like Calico Jack Rackham got his name in 305 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: this book based on his garish clothing, which might have 306 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: actually been made up. But it's like how everybody imagines 307 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: Calico Jack Rackham. Now, now that's a matter of accepted history, 308 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 1: even though we don't we don't know. Uh. And when 309 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 1: it comes to Bonnie and Read specifically, Captain Johnson spends 310 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 1: a pretty good chunk of words reiterating that the story 311 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: that he is telling is absolutely true. In the introduction, 312 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: he takes time to mention their trials and living eyewitnesses 313 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: as additional proof that this really happened. And then he 314 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 1: goes on to say, quote, it is certain we have 315 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 1: produced some particulars which were not so publicly known. The 316 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: reason is we were more inquisitive into the circumstances of 317 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: their past lives than other people who had no other 318 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: design than that of gratifying their own private curiosity. If 319 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: there are some incidents and turns in their stories which 320 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: may give them a little the air of a novel, 321 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: they are not invented or contrived for that purpose. It 322 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: is a kind of reading this author is but little 323 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 1: acquainted with. But as he himself was exceedingly diverted with 324 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 1: them when they were related to him, he thought they 325 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: might have the same effect upon the reader. He's basically 326 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: saying this is totally true. You guys, Yeah, I know 327 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: this sounds made up, but it really happened. And then 328 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 1: once he actually gets to an Bonnie uh and Mary 329 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 1: reads part of the book which is within the Captain 330 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: to chapter that's on Calico Jack Rackham, he takes the 331 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: time to say it again. He says, quote, the odd 332 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: incidents of their rambling lives are such that some may 333 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 1: be tempted to think the whole story is no better 334 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: than a novel or romance. But since it is supported 335 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: by many thousand witnesses, I mean, the people of Jamaica 336 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: who were present at their trials and heard the story 337 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: of their lives upon the first discovery of their sex, 338 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: the truth of it can be no more contested than 339 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: that there are such men in the world as Roberts 340 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: and Blackbeard who were pirates. So much insistence, like for real, 341 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,479 Speaker 1: for real, I mean just I mean, I know it 342 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 1: sounds weird, but really this is weird. It's but it's real, 343 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 1: is basically, what are you saying? Yeah, this is just 344 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: a whole lot of reassurance that he's being truthful. Uh. 345 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: On top of that, the accounts of Bonnie and Read's 346 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: early lives are simultaneously incredibly vague and full of completely 347 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: unnecessary detail. There's very little in the of names and 348 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: dates and specific places, and yet the story of Anne 349 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: Bonnie's young life spends at least four pages on the 350 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: saga of three silver spoons that Ann's father tried to 351 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: use to scare away the maid suitor, which instead revealed 352 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 1: his affair to his wife and landed the maid in jail. 353 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: And in addition to that, whole spoon drama. There's also 354 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 1: a lot of gossipy aside in Bonnie's life story about 355 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: all of the drama between her mother and her father 356 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 1: and her father's wife with multiple extramarital affairs and even 357 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,719 Speaker 1: an inheritance to argue over. There's also a lot of 358 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: gossipy titillation about Bonnie and Reid's time on the ship 359 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: together and their lives beforehand as adults. Uh. In this 360 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 1: particular account, as told in the General History of the Pirates, 361 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: Rackham obviously knew that Anne Bonnie was a woman because 362 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: they were in a relationship together, but Uh, Mary Reid 363 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: joined the crew disguised as a man and then maintained 364 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: that disguise once a board. Then, according to this book, 365 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: and Bonnie quote took a particular liking to her, and 366 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 1: then Quote first discovered her sex to Mary Read. Mary Read, 367 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: knowing that what she would be at and being very 368 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: sensible of her own incapacity that way, was forced to 369 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: come to a right understanding with her, and to the 370 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 1: great disappointment of an Bonnie, she let her know she 371 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: was a woman also. So basically, according to uh this book, 372 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: Uh and Bonnie was like, Hey, I'm actually a woman 373 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: if you want to get together, and Mary Reid was like, oh, 374 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: you know, actually I can't because I'm also a woman. 375 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: And it's just it's all told in this very gossipy, 376 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: kind of flirty, winky way, and Jack Rackham was apparently 377 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: incredibly jealous of Bonnie's attention to read, at which point 378 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: Bonnie let him know that there was nothing to worry 379 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: about because read was as we've just been saying, also, 380 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 1: what woman, And this whole bit, as Tracy said, it's 381 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 1: told with a lot of slyness and you know, nudge nudge, 382 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: wink wink, like we're all, oh, it's all very til eating. Yeah, 383 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: And then I'm gonna say I did not get to 384 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: read the whole entire book while preparing this thing, but 385 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: I did read the chapters on some of the other 386 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 1: Pirates to see to see whether my suspicion that all 387 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: of this like gossipy tilation about and Bonnie and Mary 388 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: read was unique to their stories. And basically, yeah, I mean, 389 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: there's plenty of stuff that seems sensationalized and overly dramatized 390 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,719 Speaker 1: in the other Pirates stories, but like and Bonnie and 391 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: Mary read are really a whole category apart in terms 392 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: of like sensational gossip. And on top of that, the 393 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 1: depictions of and Body and Mary Read shifted in subsequent 394 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: editions of the book. So in the first edition, this 395 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: the illustration of them you would probably think of as 396 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: more stereotypically masculin, and they're in men's clothing, they're holding weapons, 397 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 1: they look fierce. Their hair is down and long, but 398 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: that wouldn't have necessarily meant that that, like that was 399 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: a women's hairstyle at the time, and they have this 400 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: baggy clothing on, So in looking at them, today's reader 401 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: might not immediately categorize them as any particular gender before 402 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: actually looking at the caption that spells out that these 403 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: are women that are dressed as men. And the Dutch 404 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 1: second edition, though, they're wearing open jackets that revealed their 405 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: bare chests, and it's unquestionable that number one, they are women, 406 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: and that number two there is some degree of naughtiness 407 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: in this whole affair, like it is definitely a that 408 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 1: like the kind of picture that you would see in 409 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: the textbook in seventh grade and giggle with your friends over. 410 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 1: And the text describing Bonnie and Read shifts as well 411 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 1: by seventeen sixty five read specifically refers to Bonnie as 412 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: her lover, whereas that was not the case in earlier additions. 413 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: The number and amorousness of and Bonnie's affairs also grows 414 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: in subsequent editions. So, long story short, and Bonnie and 415 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: Mary Reid were definitely real people who were definitely aboard 416 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: Calico Jack Rackham's ship. They definitely stood trial, they definitely 417 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: were spared execution because they were each pregnant. But our 418 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: conceptions of them draw mostly from a really sensational problem 419 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: riddled book that got even more sensationalized about them in 420 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: particular over time. In a way, it's kind of disappointing 421 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: because like they've become such like people have that they're 422 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: in the collective memory as like these two incredible fierce 423 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 1: lady pirates who fought bravely next to each other and 424 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 1: like had all these wild adventures. Uh. And in reality, 425 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 1: the historical documentation of them is a few sentences mostly 426 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: about being on trial and being spared execution due to 427 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: pregnant see. And then it's like a weird sexy romp 428 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: in some like it's just very I mean, number one, 429 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 1: there's like a lot of stuff in it that is 430 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: that is very very gendered, even by today's standards, very gendered, 431 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: and then a lot of it that's very clearly like 432 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: meant to titlate people while not being like explicit but 433 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: hinting at explicitness a lot by so much for joining 434 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: us on this Saturday. Since this episode is out of 435 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: the archive, if you heard an email address or a 436 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: Facebook U r L or something similar over the course 437 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: of the show, that could be obsolete now. 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