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Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Hello, sweet souls, Welcome to this episode of
Speaker 1: Holy Human. Today we are going to tackle an elusive
Speaker 1: yet transformative topic, one I am just beginning to understand myself.
Speaker 1: We'll be journeying with a man who just recently helped
Speaker 1: me experience in a liveness in my body that I
Speaker 1: have not felt in a really long time. His name
Speaker 1: is Dr John Amoral, and he's going to walk us
Speaker 1: through understanding something called energy flow and how utilizing it
Speaker 1: and working with energy can help us all alleviate stress, tension,
Speaker 1: and experience better health and more happiness. So let's jump
Speaker 1: right in wing that with me. John Tomorrow, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for joining us on the Holy Human podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to talk energy with you because you were
Speaker 1: so kind to give me a session so I could
Speaker 1: experience your work, which was trippy and so cool. I
Speaker 1: felt high after and and everything like felt like it
Speaker 1: was breathing, which we'll get into it a bit. But
Speaker 1: you have developed something called the Energy Fullow formula that
Speaker 1: you've been working with for the last twenty five years.
Speaker 1: So for someone who hasn't experienced your work, can you
Speaker 1: explain what that formula is all about. First of all,
Speaker 1: it was awesome working with you, and thank you. I'm
Speaker 1: excited to talk to you about this. You're definitely a
Speaker 1: very aware and connected human beings, so so we can
Speaker 1: get into that whole process. But what happened is I
Speaker 1: started out as a fine artist. I was a fine
Speaker 1: art major, and then I ended up going to chiropractic
Speaker 1: college through a series of events that I had never
Speaker 1: been to a chiropractor, never had any kind of body
Speaker 1: work or any kind of healing work at all, and
Speaker 1: I just found myself sort of taking this completely different
Speaker 1: path into into healthcare and I became a chiropractor and
Speaker 1: I built a practice in working with people. Over the years,
Speaker 1: I found that so many that challenges people were facing
Speaker 1: were experienced as physical symptoms, but they weren't actually from
Speaker 1: physical causes. So you would have somebody in a relationship
Speaker 1: challenge to stress going on. They would have financial stress,
Speaker 1: they would have, you know, a lot a loss of
Speaker 1: a loved one, they would have all these things that
Speaker 1: were going on that we're not coming from a physical
Speaker 1: injury or accident, but they were showing up as physical
Speaker 1: symptoms in the body. Because we process what we can't
Speaker 1: feel an experience on other levels through our physical symptoms.
Speaker 1: That's kind of what our body does. So I just
Speaker 1: started tying together people's experience of life, what they were
Speaker 1: going through, their emotions, they're unprocessed things that they had
Speaker 1: been experiencing with their physical symptoms, and started developing ways
Speaker 1: to work more with the whole person. And I love
Speaker 1: you know your podcast as wholy human. It was like
Speaker 1: the whole human being rather than just oh, you have
Speaker 1: a something going on in your back or your shoulder,
Speaker 1: or you have headaches or you have this symptom. I
Speaker 1: realized that everything is interconnected in ways that if you
Speaker 1: really start to look at your life and what's going
Speaker 1: on in your life and how you're living your life,
Speaker 1: and what you're dealing with and what you're not dealing with,
Speaker 1: you're going to find that everything makes sense and the
Speaker 1: things that are showing up in the body totally do
Speaker 1: make sense. There symptoms become like a guide or signpost
Speaker 1: for you to pay attention to make changes and deal
Speaker 1: with things. And as I started putting all that together,
Speaker 1: I started coming up with more kind of approaches and techniques,
Speaker 1: and my studies took me all over the world to
Speaker 1: South America, to Europe to Asia, to study with different people,
Speaker 1: learn different approaches and techniques, and so I combine all
Speaker 1: of these like practices and tools and ways of working
Speaker 1: with the body on the body, off the body, and
Speaker 1: the energy field which we can get into, and that
Speaker 1: whole conglomeration of approaches to work with the whole person
Speaker 1: became the formula well energy, I feel it can be.
Speaker 1: An energy work can be really kind of an elusive
Speaker 1: thing for a lot of people because we don't we
Speaker 1: can't well some of us can see it, some of
Speaker 1: us can hear it, but a lot of us can't.
Speaker 1: It becomes this it's just this kind of concept, and
Speaker 1: for me still it's I understand it, but sometimes I
Speaker 1: don't quite know how to integrate like what I understand
Speaker 1: when it comes to energy. So for those of us
Speaker 1: who it's still a concept, can you maybe talk about
Speaker 1: energy work and maybe ground it a little bit more,
Speaker 1: explain why it's so important for us to learn to
Speaker 1: work with our energy for our health. Those are great questions.
Speaker 1: So firstly, we tend to think of and I grew
Speaker 1: up with this same experience that anyone working with energy
Speaker 1: or working with chakras are working with the energy body
Speaker 1: or you know this is just a bunch of wi
Speaker 1: will garblely goopy like nothing. But the truth is everything
Speaker 1: is energy at the sub atomic level. The whole body
Speaker 1: is really patterns of vibrating or oscillating energy. Every physicist
Speaker 1: knows this. You know that it's it's essentially less than
Speaker 1: five percent of the entire physical world that we experience
Speaker 1: around us is actually physical matter. Everything, our bodies, what
Speaker 1: we touch, what we see, what we experience is ninety
Speaker 1: It is just pure energy. And even the matter is
Speaker 1: actually energy at its core. So everything is energy. How
Speaker 1: we're using that energy, whether that energy is flowing, whether
Speaker 1: it's blocked or bound up, whether we experience a freedom
Speaker 1: and a flow in a sense of ease, or where
Speaker 1: we feel anxiety and pent up energy and bound up energy.
Speaker 1: It's every emotion we feel, whether everything that we experience
Speaker 1: on subtle levels in our mind is tied into energy.
Speaker 1: I think one way to explain it is if you
Speaker 1: boil water, it takes a certain threshold of energy to
Speaker 1: hit boiling point of to it, and wealve degrees. If
Speaker 1: you don't turn up enough heat energy, you don't change
Speaker 1: the form of H two O into vapor. If you
Speaker 1: drop energy in water, you pull the energy out of
Speaker 1: it through put it in the freezer. That same H
Speaker 1: to a molecule will become a solid, will become ice.
Speaker 1: It's still H two oh, it's still the same molecules,
Speaker 1: but by changing the amount of energy in that H
Speaker 1: two oh, you change the form of it. And this
Speaker 1: is really true for everything. Our bodies were mostly made
Speaker 1: of water and energy. When you understand the energy is
Speaker 1: a real thing, not just some woo woo thing that
Speaker 1: doesn't have a tangible relationship to the physical world, you
Speaker 1: start to go, well, that, actually, that's interesting. Like when
Speaker 1: I feel depleted and depressed and I feel lethargic, it's
Speaker 1: because you dropped your energy down to a level where
Speaker 1: you can't even organize your thoughts. You can't even experience
Speaker 1: or express higher level emotions because the energy is so low.
Speaker 1: When you're just super high, you're expanded. It's like you've
Speaker 1: hit the boiling point and now you're like expanding. That's
Speaker 1: what vapor does. Water turns into vapor and expands an
Speaker 1: goes everywhere. So part of us is really all of
Speaker 1: us is organized by by energy. In a very real
Speaker 1: and tangible way. So that's number one. Number two, you
Speaker 1: asked about our health. So when we have health challenges,
Speaker 1: when we have let's say we have chronic headaches, So
Speaker 1: let's say we have chronic adjustive stuff going on. Let's
Speaker 1: say we have a sense of tension we just can't shake,
Speaker 1: or a physical symptom that's been persistent, it just seems
Speaker 1: like it's not going away. We have to understand that
Speaker 1: when we're stressed out, that's and and stress can be
Speaker 1: physical from injuries, it can be emotional from just stress
Speaker 1: we're experience, and it can be mental psychological, and it
Speaker 1: can be chemical by things we're putting into our bodies,
Speaker 1: are exposing ourselves too. They all trigger the same fight
Speaker 1: or flight response in the body. So when you're under stress,
Speaker 1: your body tenses up, you breathe more, shallow, oxygen gets um.
Speaker 1: You know, we're used to certain parts of your body,
Speaker 1: and blood focus pushed out to the muscles. It gets
Speaker 1: pushed away from your digestive system because it's preparing you
Speaker 1: to be engaged with something you have to survive through fight,
Speaker 1: flight or free You either run away from it, you
Speaker 1: engage with it, or you freeze. And so usually when
Speaker 1: you're having a physical symptom or health challenge, not usually
Speaker 1: always there's some degree of fight or flight going on
Speaker 1: where you're holding all this stuff in your body and
Speaker 1: you're experiencing symptoms because there's so much bound up energy
Speaker 1: that your brain is like, I don't know how to
Speaker 1: deal with this. I'm going to experience it as pain
Speaker 1: or I'm going to experience it as tension. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: experience it in the physical because I can't process it
Speaker 1: right now. I don't have the awareness or I don't
Speaker 1: have the tools or support to deal with it on
Speaker 1: the other levels. If that makes sense? Does that? Does
Speaker 1: that make sense? Yeah? Yeah, totally. So how does energy
Speaker 1: get stuck in the body? You're saying from from just
Speaker 1: us not being aware enough to deal with these emotions
Speaker 1: and or the physical pain that's coming up? I mean,
Speaker 1: how do we the mechanism of how it actually gets there? Yeah? Like,
Speaker 1: how does it actually gets Yeah? How does it actually
Speaker 1: get stuck? It's easy to understand if you have an
Speaker 1: accident or injury. Let's say you have a whiplash injury.
Speaker 1: Someone rearends you from behind. Your next snaps back, and
Speaker 1: next thing you know, a couple of days later, you
Speaker 1: just feel seized up. You feel tension. Maybe a disk
Speaker 1: is bulged. Maybe the musculatures like holding all this tension
Speaker 1: because it got overstretched and then it contracted because the
Speaker 1: body was trying to protect or grip or armor off
Speaker 1: the area so that they wouldn't have further injuries. So
Speaker 1: we can understand on a physical level, the body would
Speaker 1: be injured, we recoil, we'd hold everything because the brain
Speaker 1: is like, wait, this isn't safe. We have to create
Speaker 1: some inflammation to protect this from further injury. Let's hold
Speaker 1: all this together and make sure that we have time
Speaker 1: to heal and sort this out. So that's easy to understand.
Speaker 1: It's harder for people to bridge when it's like nothing's happening.
Speaker 1: You're like, I look around and everything right now in
Speaker 1: the world, it's like everything doesn't feel fine for most people.
Speaker 1: But a lot of times we're like, my life is good,
Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of positives and I'm grateful for things,
Speaker 1: but like, why do I feel like there's a tension
Speaker 1: I can't shake, or why do I have these headaches
Speaker 1: or why do I have these physical symptoms? How does
Speaker 1: that have to do with energy? Well the psychological mental
Speaker 1: emotional stress of the concern about the future, anxiety from uncertainty,
Speaker 1: unprocessed grief from the loss of a loved one or
Speaker 1: from the loss of a job, or just financial stress
Speaker 1: of like how am I gonna hold it all? How
Speaker 1: we're gonna make it through this? All those kind of things,
Speaker 1: They initiate the same fight or flight response in the
Speaker 1: body as a whiplash. It's just from a different input.
Speaker 1: So your mind can actually just from the experience of
Speaker 1: the stressful situation, can then start to tighten up. We
Speaker 1: feel it. We feel it when we feel overwhelmed, when
Speaker 1: we feel scared, when we feel sad. It's like we
Speaker 1: we we don't open and expand in this like free
Speaker 1: flowing way. We're like holding it all, trying to hold it.
Speaker 1: That's the fight or flight response. So what's happening there
Speaker 1: is you're binding up energy in the muscles, You're you're
Speaker 1: holding energy in the spine. Inside your spine, the whole
Speaker 1: spinal cord stretches. Your spinal cord comes down from your
Speaker 1: brain and goes down through your neck and goes all
Speaker 1: the way down through to your tail boom. And it's
Speaker 1: imagine a guitar string with a bunch of little filaments
Speaker 1: running through your whole body, through the from top to bottom,
Speaker 1: and then a bunch of little strings coming off of
Speaker 1: that and they're all connected. That's kind of like what
Speaker 1: the nervous system or central nervous system is like, where
Speaker 1: when you're under stress, the whole thing goes under physical tension.
Speaker 1: It's like tightening up the string and everything tightens in
Speaker 1: the body, and the whole vibrational state of the body
Speaker 1: changes with stress. And then when you release that, when
Speaker 1: you let it go, the whole central nervous system relaxes physically.
Speaker 1: It can stretch like over two inches, so inside your spine,
Speaker 1: inside the little to going through the center of your body,
Speaker 1: that spinal cord is actually stretchable like multiple inches. So
Speaker 1: when it's stretched, when it's tight, that's that's what fight
Speaker 1: or flight does. It tightens it up because it's repairing you,
Speaker 1: like coiling you up ready to react. When you let
Speaker 1: it go, it's all goes back into flow. But what
Speaker 1: happens is people tighten up and then they hold it,
Speaker 1: and then they stack another stress on and they hold
Speaker 1: it and they stuck another stress on, and there's no
Speaker 1: real release, and then all that energy is just vibrating
Speaker 1: in your body physically. It's not just like conceptually, it's
Speaker 1: physically vibrating in the tissues of your body. That's how
Speaker 1: I feel. I feel it right now we're talking about it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I literally I'm like shaking because I feel
Speaker 1: I totally feel what you're talking about. And it's it's
Speaker 1: interesting because when I think about, Okay, so I'm going
Speaker 1: into this fear response or I'm having a stress or
Speaker 1: in my life, it's almost like you can't close the circuit.
Speaker 1: So like the circuit just stays on. But if if
Speaker 1: we're going around in everyday life, if we're aware of
Speaker 1: our feelings and emotions that come up, if we can't
Speaker 1: process that in the moment, but do I make some
Speaker 1: time at night to be like, oh I need to
Speaker 1: go back and process that later. I mean, that's like
Speaker 1: takes that takes us aware. And this is why energy
Speaker 1: and awareness of energy are key to everything. Their key
Speaker 1: to our success in life, their key to evolution. They're cute.
Speaker 1: I mean, efficient use of energy is critical. So if
Speaker 1: you're just stacking up a bunch of stuff and you're
Speaker 1: holding your bucket of everything, you poured into your bucket
Speaker 1: of the day, of all the stresses, and you're not
Speaker 1: dumping that bucket out, it will start overflowing. That's what
Speaker 1: symptoms are. I mean, eventually you can't hold anymore. And
Speaker 1: that's where like people can bend over to pick up
Speaker 1: a piece of paper and have a disk blowout, or
Speaker 1: they can, you know, just twist a little bit to
Speaker 1: the left and then all of a sudden their next
Speaker 1: season is up and they're like, where did this come from?
Speaker 1: How did this happen? And they're looking for a physical
Speaker 1: mechanical cause. But really it's the last sort of straw
Speaker 1: because you just you haven't been processing or somehow releasing
Speaker 1: that built up energy. And the way you have to
Speaker 1: do it is you have to dissipate that energy out
Speaker 1: of your body through some kind of practice, some kind
Speaker 1: of you need some kind of tools, because otherwise working out,
Speaker 1: we we all know the right things to do. You know,
Speaker 1: we should work out. We know we should drink plenty
Speaker 1: of water. We know we should eat healthy. We know
Speaker 1: we should stretch, we should probably do yoga, we should meditate.
Speaker 1: We know all we're supposed to do all those things
Speaker 1: that if you did even a fraction of those on
Speaker 1: a regular basis, you would be in a lot better shape.
Speaker 1: But you can do all of those things and still
Speaker 1: have tension you can't shake. Because you can be doing
Speaker 1: all the right stuff. You can be good enough and
Speaker 1: working out, stretching your body, going for a run, having
Speaker 1: lots of fluids, eating this really really clean diet, and
Speaker 1: you cannot be dealing with something in your relationship. You
Speaker 1: could not be having this hard conversation with your family members.
Speaker 1: You could be completely in a job that you hate
Speaker 1: or doing something that you know has a limited time
Speaker 1: because you're not passionate about it and you know you
Speaker 1: need to make a change and you're not dealing with that.
Speaker 1: So whatever that is, Like you had said earlier, you
Speaker 1: have these like it's like having apps on your phone
Speaker 1: open and running and drawing energy that you're not like
Speaker 1: closing down or you're not dealing with and they're just
Speaker 1: in the background running. So every single thing that we
Speaker 1: don't really deal with or is out of our awareness
Speaker 1: altogether because either it happened in the past and we
Speaker 1: just weren't even a where it happened. I mean, I've
Speaker 1: worked with a lot of people that have had abuse
Speaker 1: or situations where they don't remember it because the brain
Speaker 1: and body just it's part of that fight or flight.
Speaker 1: It kind of cloaked or locked it, locked that trauma
Speaker 1: off and sent that energy somewhere in the body. Or
Speaker 1: it could be something going on right now where you're
Speaker 1: you're like, it's happening, but you your mind goes. My
Speaker 1: blueprint for reality is this X, and what's happening is why.
Speaker 1: And I can't seem to bridge those two things. So
Speaker 1: instead of actually dealing and changing or transforming myself, I'll
Speaker 1: just play pretend in a way that it's not happening
Speaker 1: and I'll just go about my life and what And
Speaker 1: when you're doing that, that inner conflict and that friction
Speaker 1: creates all this extra tension and a lot of symptoms
Speaker 1: that people are experiencing are these red flag that say
Speaker 1: pay attention, you're overriding or ignoring something. I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: you a louder signal, because those cells in your body
Speaker 1: are like a little colony of you that are like hello,
Speaker 1: like they're screaming out there having this experience and you're
Speaker 1: ignoring them, or you're overriding them, or you're not paying attention.
Speaker 1: Either you're not aware altogether, or you are aware and
Speaker 1: you're just not taking action or dealing, and all of
Speaker 1: those things kind of together. How you listen to your body,
Speaker 1: ignore your body, or how you empty out that bucket,
Speaker 1: what your practices are for really taking inventory and going
Speaker 1: what's happening, are going to determine how well energy is
Speaker 1: flowing and how well you feel inside, because you can
Speaker 1: do all the right stuff, but you can feel miserably
Speaker 1: ill and totally depressed and you can do so we
Speaker 1: all know people that are like they're smoking, they're smoking,
Speaker 1: they're drinking, they're doing all this stuff, and they're like, actually,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying like in a totally um addictively, but
Speaker 1: they're like doing all this stuff. You're like, you're doing
Speaker 1: all the wrong stuff. Why are you freaking happy? Right? So,
Speaker 1: because those are wellness and illness or the subjective experiences,
Speaker 1: inner experience of what we're feeling, whereas like what you
Speaker 1: can gauge with the physical body, whether it's healthy or
Speaker 1: not healthy, is it has disease or no, No, disease
Speaker 1: is a different like spectrum. So my goal is always
Speaker 1: to help let's get so connected and aware that we
Speaker 1: can find that sense of ease and flow internally subjectively,
Speaker 1: but we can also like do practices and things that
Speaker 1: help our body be healthy so that you can have both.
Speaker 1: You can feel healthy on the inside and well and
Speaker 1: you can also have physical health. Well, I mean you
Speaker 1: mentioned something because I feel like there's so many of
Speaker 1: us that have disconnected from our bodies. I do all
Speaker 1: the stuff you were just saying. I do all the
Speaker 1: stuff and still feel like super anxious. And I know
Speaker 1: for me there's probably some trauma. There, a lot of
Speaker 1: trauma that is locked up in the tissues. And I've
Speaker 1: always noticed that I'm able to work with my mind,
Speaker 1: I'm able to work with so many other things except
Speaker 1: for my body. And that's been one of the most
Speaker 1: challenging places for me because I have been so disconnected
Speaker 1: from it. And so how do we first start to
Speaker 1: rebuild that connection so we can become aware of the
Speaker 1: energy that's going on. All the achievers and the artists
Speaker 1: and the like super passionate people doing things in the
Speaker 1: world like they tend to have some of the same challenges,
Speaker 1: and that is this ability to make things happen even
Speaker 1: when it's challenging, and you sort of like power through it.
Speaker 1: You make your way, you make it happen. It's like
Speaker 1: you've got to go on. It's like it's time. Like,
Speaker 1: so you have a headache, you have a sore throat,
Speaker 1: do you have this with that? It's like it's like,
Speaker 1: this is the time where you have to go on.
Speaker 1: So everybody has that in some areas of their life
Speaker 1: in certain ways. And so what I've identified is there's
Speaker 1: this paradox. I call it the paradox of change, because
Speaker 1: you cannot really change something and truly transform your situation
Speaker 1: and tell you have fully associated with and experienced what
Speaker 1: is really going on, and there has to be some
Speaker 1: kind of acknowledgement of that. There has to be some
Speaker 1: kind of surrender in a way to what is. Before
Speaker 1: you can have the experience of what you want to have,
Speaker 1: you have to first acknowledge where you're at now. And
Speaker 1: if you're where you are at now is like everything sucks,
Speaker 1: it's so hard. I feel overwhelmed. This is crap. Then
Speaker 1: it's difficult to feel but we don't want to feel that.
Speaker 1: And and especially it's juven oriented people. They're like, why
Speaker 1: would I spend even a millisecond in that state when
Speaker 1: I can do You got stuff to do? And so like,
Speaker 1: give me the tool to like not feel this and
Speaker 1: feel that, and that is a short term fix. You
Speaker 1: totally just read my mind like literally of like how
Speaker 1: do I just how do I not feel that? Just
Speaker 1: get right to the big want to feel. All right,
Speaker 1: my friends, we are going to take a quick break,
Speaker 1: but when we return, you and I are going to
Speaker 1: learn about the tools to break out of the cycle
Speaker 1: of negativity and negative energy. We were just talking about
Speaker 1: falling into the cycle of negative feelings because people that
Speaker 1: are motivated and active in the world to make things
Speaker 1: happen are not into languishing in the crap. They feel
Speaker 1: there's no value in it. And the paradox is that
Speaker 1: as soon as you allow yourself to feel an experience
Speaker 1: where you really are for a moment, it changes, But
Speaker 1: it doesn't change if you have an agenda to get
Speaker 1: somewhere else before you fully experience it. So even like
Speaker 1: the mind of the superachiever is like, all right, what
Speaker 1: do I have to do? I have to go through
Speaker 1: some process where I have to feel where I'm at,
Speaker 1: which I don't want to be because it really sucks.
Speaker 1: And then once I do that, then I can feel
Speaker 1: better and I can do what I want to do
Speaker 1: in your mind's like yeah exactly. So you're like, all right,
Speaker 1: give me the stupid process. And then you go, okay,
Speaker 1: what am I supposed to feel? And just okay, what
Speaker 1: do you feel? And then usually what will happen is
Speaker 1: you'll start to kind of scan in a process, might
Speaker 1: be put in your hands on your body and feeling
Speaker 1: maybe you're putting your hands on your heart or in
Speaker 1: your head or some part of your body, and going
Speaker 1: to yourself like what do I actually feel here? And
Speaker 1: for so many people it's like nothing, I feel totally numb.
Speaker 1: And it's just because again the mind and the ego
Speaker 1: will be like, well, you really feel sad, but it's
Speaker 1: not okay to feel sad. So instead of feeling sad,
Speaker 1: we're gonna feel like an elephant is compressing your chest
Speaker 1: and and your ribs are collapsing and you're having a
Speaker 1: heart attack. Oh, and then you're like, why do I
Speaker 1: feel anxiety? You really are feeling sad, but it's not registering.
Speaker 1: So instead of actually experiencing that, you experienced the crushing
Speaker 1: pressure on your chest. And this is like what's called
Speaker 1: so mad at sizing. It's it's taking an experience that
Speaker 1: is being felt and then blocking out the emotion of it,
Speaker 1: and when the emotion is actually here's the interesting thing.
Speaker 1: Emotion is requires physical movement and sound and tone. So
Speaker 1: if you don't have physical move moving and tone, if
Speaker 1: you don't make a sound or you know, you don't
Speaker 1: have some kind of expression of tone and the body
Speaker 1: doesn't move in some way, you haven't really expressed emotion.
Speaker 1: And so the energy is there, but your brain doesn't
Speaker 1: register it. It It can like compartmentalize it off. And so
Speaker 1: that's where you feel like pressure, intention and an anxious feeling.
Speaker 1: Because the truth is you're feeling may be scared, you're
Speaker 1: feeling sad, you're feeling alone, you're feeling overwhelmed, but you
Speaker 1: haven't really transferred that into some kind of expression, which
Speaker 1: is like emptying out the bucket um and so now
Speaker 1: you're just stacking all this stuff. And then you're like,
Speaker 1: now I feel physical tension. So let me take two advil,
Speaker 1: or let me have a vicating or let me like
Speaker 1: give me a couple of glasses of wine, like give
Speaker 1: me something to not feel this. So that takes you
Speaker 1: further away from what you're actually feeling, because now you're
Speaker 1: stepping out of first there was a strong emotional feeling
Speaker 1: that didn't get expressed, and now the energy is bound
Speaker 1: up in the body because it didn't get to move,
Speaker 1: so it's stores and the muscles and the tendons and
Speaker 1: the fascia and the organs and everywhere else. And I
Speaker 1: was just sitting there and then your brain goes, oh,
Speaker 1: that's physical tension, so I need to stretch it out,
Speaker 1: or I need to take something to make that physical
Speaker 1: feeling not be so strong, which is like have a drink,
Speaker 1: have an advil, whatever. And then now you're further removed
Speaker 1: because that even blocks you out more, and pretty soon
Speaker 1: you're just like you're disconnected totally from your body, and
Speaker 1: your body is no longer a source of ease, peace, connection,
Speaker 1: or a safe place for you to call home. Really,
Speaker 1: but if we go all the way back to early
Speaker 1: in life, for a lot of people, their body was
Speaker 1: not a safe place to call home from the start
Speaker 1: because the birth process was super traumatic or intense, or
Speaker 1: they had an early childhood abuse, or they had a
Speaker 1: really intense experience growing up where it wasn't safe to
Speaker 1: feel or express, and so like you just you kind
Speaker 1: of leave your body and so returning to and sometimes
Speaker 1: for the first time, just getting to know your body
Speaker 1: and experiencing your body as a as Wow, I can,
Speaker 1: you know, engage with my body and explore it and
Speaker 1: have curiosity and feel things is like a totally different language.
Speaker 1: It's a new experience, new territory for a lot of people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: especially if you grow up with I mean, there's so
Speaker 1: much shame around body, even just to to get to
Speaker 1: know our own bodies, I mean we Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: not a language that was spoken to me. And I
Speaker 1: find it so interesting that sound is such a big
Speaker 1: part of your process because I've worked with my body
Speaker 1: and energy, but with your process, I feel like this
Speaker 1: sound is something that's so important. And when we work
Speaker 1: together the other day, I don't think I've cried like
Speaker 1: that ever. Afterwards, I was like, God, how many times
Speaker 1: in my life have I needed to cry like that?
Speaker 1: To really wail? And for someone who uses their voice
Speaker 1: all the time, it's interesting how much shame and fear
Speaker 1: can be around actually emoting through voice. Crying is something
Speaker 1: that I feel. I've been working a little bit with
Speaker 1: the work that you teach of the past few days,
Speaker 1: and when we get into stuff, certain things like anger, rage,
Speaker 1: and things that are in the body. It's that for
Speaker 1: me is almost where it's like, is there a sound
Speaker 1: to that? I don't know, I don't know what for
Speaker 1: you to be expressing and sharing this When you are
Speaker 1: internationally inclaimed artists and singer and you bear it all
Speaker 1: and express yourself in front of millions of people, I
Speaker 1: think about just someone who you're at home and you're like, I,
Speaker 1: I'm afraid to even sing in my car, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm afraid to sing in my shower, to even make
Speaker 1: sounds because for so many people, it's like, I'm so
Speaker 1: self conscious about about how I'll be perceived, and sometimes
Speaker 1: I'm so self conscious about even what sounds might come
Speaker 1: out of me, because I think I might be a freak.
Speaker 1: I might be just a weird, damaged person. And if
Speaker 1: I'm making a sound that sounds feeble or weak like
Speaker 1: oh god, you know, or if I'm making a sound
Speaker 1: that sounds anger, you know, you're making these sounds if
Speaker 1: they really came out and expressed. Sometimes they'll really like
Speaker 1: surprise you because you a growl, a grown a moan um,
Speaker 1: you know, some like guttural sound comes out, and it's
Speaker 1: like not when you you ordinarily make that can challenge
Speaker 1: your whole conditioning about what's okay and what's not. And
Speaker 1: this is where it starts, because someone in our life said,
Speaker 1: whether this was spoken or whether this was unspoken, they said, look,
Speaker 1: this is the range that's okay to be in. But
Speaker 1: if you go beyond this range, now now you're bad
Speaker 1: or now you are too much. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's
Speaker 1: like you cannot, you know, show sadness or weakness, or
Speaker 1: you cannot show anger. You cannot raise your voice, you cannot.
Speaker 1: And so these are just patterns that are culturally and
Speaker 1: familiarly conditioned where we learn how to limit or reduce
Speaker 1: or mute down our expression in order to be accepted
Speaker 1: or to not lose love. Right, So so we learned
Speaker 1: how to kind of adapt ourselves. And then you have
Speaker 1: all this energy stored in different parts of your body.
Speaker 1: Because when the body, when we're stressed and if we
Speaker 1: don't express it, like we're talking about earlier, that mechanism
Speaker 1: is the body's in fight or flight. So you push
Speaker 1: that energy somewhere into the physical tissues of the body,
Speaker 1: and now it's it's like imagine a a vibration that's
Speaker 1: happening through your whole body. It's a freak out vibration.
Speaker 1: You want to be like, you know, you want to
Speaker 1: just freak out, but you're like, Okay, I can't freak
Speaker 1: out because it's not okay, I'm gonna get I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get whacked with a belt or whatever. So you hold
Speaker 1: it all together and then you just like hold it in. Now,
Speaker 1: where did the energy go. It's like it's still there.
Speaker 1: It's not like it ever. You're still feeling what you're feeling.
Speaker 1: It just isn't expressing through the body. So that energy
Speaker 1: that now can't move out through motion, through sound, through
Speaker 1: some kind of expression. It's it's contained now. It's it's
Speaker 1: it's it's like a vibrating it's like a chamber. Your
Speaker 1: body becomes now a chamber where the vibration just bouncing
Speaker 1: around and and the more compressed it gets into certain areas,
Speaker 1: the more it feels solid. Because we're not actually solid.
Speaker 1: Nothing is solid. The able, the chair, the physical roof
Speaker 1: over your head, they are not actually solid at the
Speaker 1: sub atomic level. It's all energy patterns. There's nothing solid there.
Speaker 1: You can think of a tornado. You drive your car
Speaker 1: at a tornado, there's nothing solid there, but you're gonna
Speaker 1: hit a point where it's going to break you apart.
Speaker 1: The powerful tornado will rip a house apart, but it's
Speaker 1: just wind. But it's a vortex of energy that's vi
Speaker 1: that's swirling at such a rate that it becomes it
Speaker 1: acts like a solid And that's basically what cells and
Speaker 1: tissues of the body are. So the whole thing is
Speaker 1: this vibrational experience. And if we can match and begin
Speaker 1: to feel and express using tone and vibration to mirror
Speaker 1: what that frequency is, then it lets our brain are
Speaker 1: or higher centers of the brain register what is being experienced,
Speaker 1: and then energy can start to come out, and it
Speaker 1: can in a natural and organic emotion can actually arise
Speaker 1: not from us just trying to like push energy out,
Speaker 1: but from us going what what would be like holding
Speaker 1: up a tuning for to this feeling or variance in
Speaker 1: my body, what sound or tone or vibration. If I
Speaker 1: just touched my body in the area where I feel symptomatic,
Speaker 1: if I just put my hands there and I didn't
Speaker 1: try to change anything or make it go away, I
Speaker 1: realized that this, this is a part of me that's
Speaker 1: vibrating with a certain frequency, and I just took a
Speaker 1: breath there into the nose and out the mouth, and
Speaker 1: I let out a sound that matched that feeling. What
Speaker 1: would that sound be? And then you kind of play
Speaker 1: with it until you find something that actually mirrors or
Speaker 1: matches that frequency. And if you can't find it, you
Speaker 1: might just recognize, wow, I'm disconnected from this part, and
Speaker 1: you just verbalize and say, well, I'm totally numbed out
Speaker 1: from this area. I'm totally dis connected. How is it
Speaker 1: weird that I don't even I can't even feel my
Speaker 1: body here. It's like someone else's body. It feels empty
Speaker 1: or solid or avoided out. Just acknowledge it for a moment,
Speaker 1: and then usually that's enough. This is part of the paradox.
Speaker 1: You stopped trying to change what is there, and suddenly
Speaker 1: you're with what is there, and it's when when when
Speaker 1: you're with it, it changes. That's is the nature of
Speaker 1: how things work. As soon as you stop trying to
Speaker 1: change something and you fully associate and accept and allow
Speaker 1: it to be where it is, you're already in the
Speaker 1: process of changing. But people think they're going to get
Speaker 1: stuck there. They're like, I don't want to go there.
Speaker 1: We're going back to earlier or an achiever especially, It's like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to go into that place because if
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to change something, how's the change, Because
Speaker 1: isn't that what we're here to do is like improve things.
Speaker 1: So there's this little glitch and if you get that
Speaker 1: that you can realize that it only takes a millisecond
Speaker 1: of acceptance of where you are fully and then it
Speaker 1: can open up to a new possibility. It will change
Speaker 1: your life, that that one recognition, and when you stop
Speaker 1: trying to get rid of things and stop trying to
Speaker 1: make them go away, and you realize its whole. I'm whole.
Speaker 1: I'm a whole human. Every part of me is is important.
Speaker 1: And instead of trying to get rid of these parts,
Speaker 1: let me see if I can have a relationship with
Speaker 1: them and start to let them influence how I live
Speaker 1: my life when we work together. The other day, I
Speaker 1: was incredibly low and depressed and I fully you told
Speaker 1: me that, and I fully committed to the couch for
Speaker 1: two days. I'm just saying, yeah, I ended up not
Speaker 1: fighting it, and it's still with me. It hasn't completely shifted,
Speaker 1: but to not fight it and to think I should
Speaker 1: be doing something else. That's where the suffering happens, right
Speaker 1: like where we we think we should be somewhere that
Speaker 1: we're not totally. The suffering is is in the is
Speaker 1: in the mind's concept of what should be happening versus
Speaker 1: what's really there. Because if you fully stop trying to
Speaker 1: change something, and you really seek to just feel and experience,
Speaker 1: and you ask for awareness and guidance and support from
Speaker 1: the universe, and you're and you're like, look, I I
Speaker 1: just I want to be with with what is, and
Speaker 1: and you stop trying to, you know, get somewhere else.
Speaker 1: This is kind of the hero's journey, or this is
Speaker 1: the vision quest where you go like out into the
Speaker 1: full wrist or whatever, and you go, I gotta be
Speaker 1: with myself and with my You might say your demons,
Speaker 1: but it's not necessarily your demons. It's just the parts
Speaker 1: of you that have been in the shadow of the
Speaker 1: parts of you that have been out of awareness. And
Speaker 1: you set aside the judgment of how long it should
Speaker 1: last that I need to feel something, then the suffering
Speaker 1: stuff because the suffering is like it should be different
Speaker 1: and it's this. But if you're just like it is
Speaker 1: exactly what it needs to be. I'm I'm seeking to
Speaker 1: feel and experience. Then ironically, sort of paradoxically more than
Speaker 1: ironically paradoxically, it freaking changes and they're instantly catapulted into
Speaker 1: some other place. But sometimes, like what you what you
Speaker 1: need to feel, is going to require you to deal
Speaker 1: with some things that make some changes. So that's the
Speaker 1: reason why we don't really connect because in some ways
Speaker 1: we don't want to know what actually needs to happen.
Speaker 1: Let's say, on the deep soul level, we know that
Speaker 1: we have some unfinished business with a family member, or
Speaker 1: we have to reconnect with someone, or we have to
Speaker 1: leave a relationship, or we have to quit a job
Speaker 1: or something, and then we feel so attached and we
Speaker 1: just on some level we know it, but we don't
Speaker 1: really want to face and deal with that, so we
Speaker 1: sort of skirt around it and we're doing these Actually
Speaker 1: I gotta connect and feel and I gotta be with
Speaker 1: what is and like and you already know, so the
Speaker 1: thing is now you need to actually take action and
Speaker 1: change it. And so sometimes the suffering is about we
Speaker 1: know and we're not dealing with it, We're not doing
Speaker 1: anything about it. Sometimes the suffering is like we just
Speaker 1: don't even know. We're completely disconnected. So there's a different
Speaker 1: it depends different suffering, different different flavors of suffering. I
Speaker 1: wish I could kind of put the awareness back sometimes
Speaker 1: because the awareness of it, like you're saying, once you
Speaker 1: become aware of something and you're in that space and
Speaker 1: you don't take action on something, then basically you're just
Speaker 1: kind of I mean in my experience, you're kind of
Speaker 1: like binding that energy up, right, So you just kind
Speaker 1: of stuck. So when when we feel stuck in our lives,
Speaker 1: but is that basically bound energy that needs to be
Speaker 1: moved and we were either aware of it or not
Speaker 1: aware of it and not taking If we're aware of
Speaker 1: but we're not taking action, is the action like the
Speaker 1: the thing that I love that you're bringing this up
Speaker 1: because because interestingly, feeling stuck and feeling that in between,
Speaker 1: like you can't move forward and you can't go back,
Speaker 1: and you're just in this like heavy dense place, it
Speaker 1: has a very certain quality of energy in the body
Speaker 1: and it will feel like a density and it is
Speaker 1: energy that's compressed. And so that when we feel stuck
Speaker 1: in our emotions and in our mind, we have a
Speaker 1: correlating place always in the physical body that is linked
Speaker 1: into that stuck feeling. So it might be around your throat,
Speaker 1: it might be around your upper chest, it could be
Speaker 1: in your gut. A lot of hands that happens around
Speaker 1: the solar plexus area because that's the that's this energetic
Speaker 1: center that ties more into your sense of will and
Speaker 1: your and your sort of pride and you're wanting to
Speaker 1: create and be someone in the world. That's this like
Speaker 1: kind of pushing through part of us, which is right
Speaker 1: in that like the low pointy bone at the bottom
Speaker 1: of your rib cage. You know, that is an area
Speaker 1: where a lot of people feel that stuck energy. Sometimes
Speaker 1: it could be in your pelvis. But what happens with
Speaker 1: stuck nous is you know it's you at that point,
Speaker 1: Like there's a conscious awareness when we feel stuck that
Speaker 1: I'm actually contributing to this because I'm responsible in some
Speaker 1: way for the choices I'm making, but I can't choose
Speaker 1: something else because I don't know what to where to
Speaker 1: go next. But at the same time, I'm aware I'm
Speaker 1: not going back to where I was. So that's where
Speaker 1: stuckness like links us into this place of frustration and
Speaker 1: and a pressure and a heaviness. So what you can
Speaker 1: do when you're feeling that first, that's different than disconnected
Speaker 1: where because a lot of times people think when when
Speaker 1: they're just totally disconnected from a part of their body
Speaker 1: that it's stuck. They're like, oh, it feels so blocked
Speaker 1: or stuck. Usually that's disconnection. You're not even you're not
Speaker 1: even connected to or aware of that part of you.
Speaker 1: It just feels like kind of blank or numb. So
Speaker 1: that has to be addressed for list. And that can
Speaker 1: go back to what we were talking about earlier, where
Speaker 1: you can just put your hands there and you might
Speaker 1: even just need to acknowledge like, hey, I feel so
Speaker 1: disconnected for myself here, I feel numbed out. Take a breath,
Speaker 1: notice just some sensation comes in and it starts to
Speaker 1: kind of feel more alive and present. Because you can't
Speaker 1: change what you can't connect to. So again that's that paradox.
Speaker 1: You can't change something if you're not even aware of
Speaker 1: that part of you. So once you're aware, sometimes underlying
Speaker 1: that can disconnect is well I'm now connected, but damn
Speaker 1: am I stuck? It's like oh my gosh. And so
Speaker 1: that um feeling of stuckness is needs to be actually amplified,
Speaker 1: not you can't if you just try to jump over
Speaker 1: it and be like, I feel so stuck, let me
Speaker 1: just feel something else. It doesn't have enough charge and
Speaker 1: energy to like let it open up, so you've got
Speaker 1: to match it. So I'll have people, you know, put
Speaker 1: their hands on a part of the body, feel that
Speaker 1: energy there and like maybe twist or compress or squish
Speaker 1: their hands into that part of the body and like, oh,
Speaker 1: make the sound of being absolutely stuck and growl and
Speaker 1: moan and just say it even like I'm so stuck.
Speaker 1: I'm so you might cough into the area. Coffeing is
Speaker 1: a lot of times associated with like that stuck area
Speaker 1: when you start to connect to it and then you
Speaker 1: just you go right into it, fully into it, intensify it,
Speaker 1: feel it for about three to five seconds, and then
Speaker 1: ease it up, and then just sit for a moment
Speaker 1: and feel, wow, I did that. I got myself so
Speaker 1: stuck that in this part of my body I held
Speaker 1: all this energy and it was all compressed. And then
Speaker 1: you want to just take a moment and just acknowledge
Speaker 1: with compassion for a moment, there's a party that's a
Speaker 1: free like light being, like a childlike playful you that
Speaker 1: needs to be just acknowledged, like maybe needs to be
Speaker 1: paid attention to, maybe needs some kindness or gentleness, and
Speaker 1: just be like, oh, I'm so sorry that i I
Speaker 1: got so bound up in all of this and I'm
Speaker 1: so felt so mired, and you lost all this levity
Speaker 1: and joy and playfulness, and I'm paying attention. So so
Speaker 1: that can. Always when there's a stuck experience, it's our
Speaker 1: mind and our ego and the loss of that child,
Speaker 1: that liveliness of the child and that lightness of the child.
Speaker 1: So once you go into it and intensify and match it,
Speaker 1: then you back it off and then you find that
Speaker 1: part of you and just see visualized feel sense or
Speaker 1: send a like a message to that part of you,
Speaker 1: just holding your hands on whatever part of your body
Speaker 1: has associated with that stuck feeling, and that can, that can,
Speaker 1: and then you can just go into more of a
Speaker 1: peaceful like, Okay, it's okay, we're gonna sort this out.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna like make some decisions. Maybe I don't have
Speaker 1: all the information yet, but it's coming. Le Me just
Speaker 1: be kinder to myself while I sort of get up
Speaker 1: the courage, because that's aultuly. Usually when we're stuck, we
Speaker 1: also need to hit a point where we just say enough.
Speaker 1: That's where you like, I'm stepping up, I'm dealing. We
Speaker 1: feel totally stuck, and then it's just like we're right
Speaker 1: at the edge of something. And then finally you just
Speaker 1: have to be like enough, enough enough, I'm I draw
Speaker 1: the line here no more. And this is where everybody
Speaker 1: has to get to. And when we come back, Dr
Speaker 1: John Tomorrow is going to explain exactly how you can
Speaker 1: get yourself unstuck too. We were just talking about getting
Speaker 1: out of the state of being stuck. Before you move
Speaker 1: into a true transformative like change in your identity, you
Speaker 1: have to hit a point where you feel totally stuck,
Speaker 1: totally frustrated because you keep doing the same crap over
Speaker 1: and over and over and over. Whether it's smoking cigarettes
Speaker 1: or it's like that you want to quit, or it's
Speaker 1: a relationship you keep coming back to or that's dysfunctional
Speaker 1: or whatever it is, and you have there's a part
Speaker 1: of you that no, and that's why you're stuck, that
Speaker 1: you keep doing it over and over. And once you
Speaker 1: build up that and go into it, and amplify it
Speaker 1: and intensify it. For a moment you feel how stuck
Speaker 1: you are, you acknowledge it. Then you find that child
Speaker 1: part of you that's just like, Hau'm sorry, ignored you.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to keep doing this to you. Then
Speaker 1: you just you can get the courage and the energy
Speaker 1: up to be like, Okay, now I'm taking action, I'm
Speaker 1: dealing with this, un confronting this. So it takes journeying
Speaker 1: into those places that have been harder to connect with. Well,
Speaker 1: so ultimately, when we start working with this energy and
Speaker 1: we start to free up these pieces of us, hear
Speaker 1: you talk about flow, the flow state, like, so what
Speaker 1: is that and how do we know when we're in it?
Speaker 1: Flow is that experience of an effortless ease where it
Speaker 1: feels like almost a liquid plasma like state where like
Speaker 1: you and the world around you become one merged experience.
Speaker 1: And that's what athletes call the zone performers. You know, know,
Speaker 1: when you're just channeling, everything's coming through and there's no resistance,
Speaker 1: there's no assessing that part of the mind that's that's assessing, like,
Speaker 1: am I doing it right? Am I? Okay? You know
Speaker 1: like that cognitive part of the mind just in the background,
Speaker 1: and you're just in the moment in the experience, and
Speaker 1: you feel energized, and you feel light and buoyant and
Speaker 1: like things are just working. There's a synchronistic experience where
Speaker 1: everything is just in sync. You and the universe are
Speaker 1: are really one. What it takes to access that flow,
Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's research on it by Chasin Mahai
Speaker 1: was the original scientist who did all this research on
Speaker 1: flow states um. But it usually takes some kind of
Speaker 1: challenge where you're stretched and you're pushed in some way,
Speaker 1: but your skills allow you to step up to that challenge,
Speaker 1: and you have to like get kind of out of
Speaker 1: yourself and go beyond this like analytical part of the
Speaker 1: mind and jump up to this higher level of your
Speaker 1: being that then moves into this state of where all
Speaker 1: your skills and your practice and everything come together and
Speaker 1: suddenly you're not really there in control. It's it's like
Speaker 1: your body just knows you're being just knows. So that's
Speaker 1: anyone who has visited that state even briefly knows that
Speaker 1: there's just something that feels like this is me, but
Speaker 1: something greater happening here. I'm not I'm not having to
Speaker 1: force this, but how do we get into that on
Speaker 1: a regular basis, and how do we find more flow? One,
Speaker 1: we do have to find these places that are stuck
Speaker 1: and bound up and locked up and like acknowledge them,
Speaker 1: which liberates some of the energy, but even more for
Speaker 1: a lot of people helpful it just start out is
Speaker 1: like recognizing that I actually exist. And you and I
Speaker 1: talked about this when we work. I exist outside of
Speaker 1: my physical body. I don't. I'm not limited by the
Speaker 1: form of my physical body because because the truth is
Speaker 1: not only can you measure the electromagnetic field of the
Speaker 1: body at least three to six feet off the body,
Speaker 1: and some people have apparently measured it like fifteen or
Speaker 1: more feet off the but like really far off the body,
Speaker 1: there's response happening, and there's some energetic qualities that that
Speaker 1: are your field, your your whole energy field. And by
Speaker 1: recognizing that we are not trapped in this physical body,
Speaker 1: but we're infinite beings that have no real like it's
Speaker 1: called nonlocality. We don't exist in the space. You can't
Speaker 1: slice the brain open and find like where is LeAnn,
Speaker 1: Like she's not going to be inside the brain like,
Speaker 1: you'll see chemical reactions, you'll see neurons firing, and you'll
Speaker 1: see all these things going on, but you're not going
Speaker 1: to find where your consciousness is. That's something that transcends
Speaker 1: this temporary physical existence. So that ability to connect to
Speaker 1: that energy field is where flow really starts because there's
Speaker 1: no inhibition, there's nothing physical to stop us there. It's
Speaker 1: just completely light and energy. It's the form of us
Speaker 1: that's like pre physicality, and the I see the physical
Speaker 1: body as a like more of a shadow of that.
Speaker 1: There's something called psymatics. I don't know if you're familiar,
Speaker 1: but it's a study of how sound waves organized matter
Speaker 1: into shapes and form. And so you can put a
Speaker 1: a bunch of sand on a metal plate and then
Speaker 1: run different frequencies through it with a tone generator, and
Speaker 1: you can make all these different shapes that are very
Speaker 1: complex and beautiful shapes. That's happening in our bodies, in ourselves.
Speaker 1: So when we go where is that frequency coming from,
Speaker 1: it's coming from outside. It's not coming from the sand itself.
Speaker 1: It's the frequency of energy that's affecting those little particles
Speaker 1: that then puts them in a certain order. So for us.
Speaker 1: That frequency is coming from really outside the body. So
Speaker 1: we exist out here in the space around us, and
Speaker 1: that is where meditation, That is where even viewing sometimes
Speaker 1: yourself from outside your body. For some people, it can
Speaker 1: be like going up above where they kind of imagine
Speaker 1: like going out through the top of your head and
Speaker 1: looking down and seeing you from all sides and all
Speaker 1: around you. It might be like zooming out from eithern
Speaker 1: further outside the building you're sitting and seeing if you
Speaker 1: can feel sense or see that you exist in a
Speaker 1: larger space outside, like wow, I'm looking down at my
Speaker 1: house and I see the other houses around, and well,
Speaker 1: I can see the whole city, and you can kind
Speaker 1: of zoom yourself out even further. For some people it's
Speaker 1: really helpful. They go out and they feel like, wow,
Speaker 1: it's like spacious and free, and I exist out here
Speaker 1: in this space, exist as energy and consciousness. And then
Speaker 1: when you come back to the body, you have more
Speaker 1: sense of freedom and flow. And now instead of just
Speaker 1: going right into this trapped, dense feeling, you can have
Speaker 1: a lighter, freer, more vibratory feel because you're not restricted
Speaker 1: or contained in this in this body. And the truth is,
Speaker 1: the body is more of it's constantly replacing the cells.
Speaker 1: I mean, we have like something around sixty to seventy
Speaker 1: five or something or a hundred trillion cells in the body,
Speaker 1: and they're all being constantly replaced. And so there's some organizing,
Speaker 1: organizing energy and frequency that's that's keeping that happening. And
Speaker 1: it's not in our body, it's it's around and beyond us,
Speaker 1: and that is where flow can can really be tapped into.
Speaker 1: And then when you have both, when you can expand
Speaker 1: out and feel connected to that subtle energy and that
Speaker 1: subtle body and that non physicality, and then you can
Speaker 1: kind of zoom yourself back in and feel that I'm
Speaker 1: also I have a physical body and it has density
Speaker 1: to it, and there's vibration and energy there, and I
Speaker 1: can sort of sink my way in and feel within
Speaker 1: as well. You start to bridge this. What I see
Speaker 1: is like a touch screen interface of the universe. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you think about like a touch tablet or iPhone
Speaker 1: or something, you touch the screen and it gives you
Speaker 1: access to the cloud. I mean that's really what the
Speaker 1: body is like. It's the ultimate touch screen, and so
Speaker 1: we're we're kind of like interacting with the body and
Speaker 1: its vibrations and making the sounds and tones and feeling
Speaker 1: and then actually recognize you that I exist out further
Speaker 1: from my body and then put bringing our hands back
Speaker 1: to our body and touching and exist. I exist within
Speaker 1: and I'm sinking in and then I'm kind of building
Speaker 1: this bridge of awareness that I'm I'm both in here
Speaker 1: and I'm out there, and I'm neither as well, and
Speaker 1: it becomes very interesting. So like once again the concept
Speaker 1: of knowing that I've exist outside my body and then
Speaker 1: stay connected to that concept through everyday life. It's challenging
Speaker 1: for a lot of people that, like I said, that
Speaker 1: we're energy and that we're more energy than we are
Speaker 1: a matter, like the mind sometimes can't wrap itself around
Speaker 1: all of that. So I've been working, whether I know,
Speaker 1: the past several days of like really kind of going
Speaker 1: back to that idea of oh, yeah, I'm not just
Speaker 1: this body and just that alone, Like I do feel
Speaker 1: more spaciousness just bringing my awareness, I guess, to that
Speaker 1: concept and allowing myself to feel outside of me, because
Speaker 1: it can it can feel very dense, we can feel
Speaker 1: very alone, just like this is all there is, is
Speaker 1: just this human body. When we start to learn about
Speaker 1: these things. For me, at least my mind goes it
Speaker 1: starts to get very frustrating because I'm like, I want
Speaker 1: to stay connected. I want to stay connected to that
Speaker 1: that energy and that flow state. But the density can
Speaker 1: get sometimes so overwhelming. Yeah, and that density is is
Speaker 1: that's where when we feel so dense and heavy, that's
Speaker 1: where we do need to kind of do this acknowledgement first.
Speaker 1: Usually we just put touch that area very gently, feel
Speaker 1: the kind of heaviness and disconnection sometimes and just acknowledge
Speaker 1: and make maybe make a sound, see if you can
Speaker 1: kind of match a little vibration of energy as you're
Speaker 1: touching that part of your body where you feel that denseness.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's your heart, maybe it's your chest, in your
Speaker 1: head or your gut or wherever it is. And then
Speaker 1: you can imagine from outside your body you're streaming like
Speaker 1: a tornado or a gentle like swirling vortex of energy
Speaker 1: down through your fingertips from out off of your body
Speaker 1: and then kind of brewing its way like a little
Speaker 1: wormhole through into the interior of your body, and then
Speaker 1: imagine it kind of going back either out the back
Speaker 1: of your body or back out the front of your
Speaker 1: body and starting to realize that like what appears to
Speaker 1: be dense and solid is actually just a pattern of energy.
Speaker 1: But we may need to bring a kind of a
Speaker 1: resource of free flowing energy to that place so that
Speaker 1: it can Remember it's almost like a beaver dam is
Speaker 1: like built, and someone wants to like poor, like to
Speaker 1: be mean to the beaver's but like they want to
Speaker 1: wash it, like they want to like remove the damn.
Speaker 1: Like you can go out and like disassemble its stick
Speaker 1: by stick, or you could go up the river and
Speaker 1: increase the flow and it would just wash everything out
Speaker 1: like down river. So in a way, sometimes the way
Speaker 1: you unravel that dense heaviness is you go to a
Speaker 1: source of energy that feels freer and lighter and more available,
Speaker 1: and then you amplify it and then it can like
Speaker 1: flow through and suddenly you have a different perspective that
Speaker 1: allows you to gain some awareness, because when energy is
Speaker 1: flowing more freely, your awareness changes as well. So that's
Speaker 1: where like coming off your body sometimes or feeling is
Speaker 1: your existence out in the field energy feeled around you,
Speaker 1: and then bringing your hands to your body and then
Speaker 1: imagining sending that energy through and then if you hit
Speaker 1: the density, they're just like, ah, that's the place where
Speaker 1: I'm disconnected. Let me acknowledge it for a second, and
Speaker 1: then let me make a sound that releases it, and
Speaker 1: then go back out off my body come back in.
Speaker 1: Sometimes that's really the easiest path for people. In your case,
Speaker 1: that would be an easier path because you do have
Speaker 1: a very big energy field that's way out here, and
Speaker 1: so like the challenge sometimes is then like bridging it
Speaker 1: so you're not just way out here or you know,
Speaker 1: out in the energy field of the universe, or you're
Speaker 1: inside your body and this collapsed a little like tense,
Speaker 1: dense place, and the either or nature of that is
Speaker 1: where a lot of suffering can happen. So we want
Speaker 1: to build a bridge that lets us feel, oh wow,
Speaker 1: I can feel the energy within my body. I can
Speaker 1: feel the energy around my body. It's all one. And
Speaker 1: the truth is like I am the experience and expression
Speaker 1: of the universe itself, like merging through this kind of
Speaker 1: interface of my body. I'm not inside it yet I'm
Speaker 1: also inside of it. It's another paradox. Once you get
Speaker 1: towards these deeper truths, you realize that you just get
Speaker 1: to these like paradoxes. You're both in your body and
Speaker 1: you're not, you're out of your body and you're not.
Speaker 1: You're both in neither to experience. That takes exploring, and
Speaker 1: it takes practice, and oftentimes it takes a guide or
Speaker 1: somebody to work with you. They can help help you
Speaker 1: discover some of these things that are a little more
Speaker 1: esoteric at first. So I know a lot of people
Speaker 1: won't have the chance to work with you, But is
Speaker 1: there a place where they can go find out more
Speaker 1: information on energy or there are more resources that people
Speaker 1: can kind of look into what we've been talking about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I I created something like a free you know process
Speaker 1: is still on my website called the seven Day Challenge,
Speaker 1: So that's the Fight or Flight to Flow Challenge, So
Speaker 1: people can just go get a whole free course there
Speaker 1: and I'll guide you through some processes over a seven
Speaker 1: day period. So that's one like easy thing. On the
Speaker 1: back end of that, there's a couple of courses that I,
Speaker 1: you know, just like simple, pretty short courses that I
Speaker 1: created and it's just John Emerald dot com. So that's
Speaker 1: one way I'm in the process right now of creating
Speaker 1: a new whole kind of ecosystem where I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: teaching and taking people through practice. I'll be doing live things,
Speaker 1: and I'll be teaching and helping people, whether you're a
Speaker 1: practitioner or whether you're a human wanting to be more
Speaker 1: whole and alive and energized and deal with some of
Speaker 1: the challenges you're going through. So there will be a
Speaker 1: whole another level coming in the in the coming months.
Speaker 1: Very cool. I'm excited for that. I always love to
Speaker 1: close with what I know best, which is music, and
Speaker 1: I always find it so interesting to hear what's in
Speaker 1: people's playlist, and its funny. The other day you I
Speaker 1: actually text you, I'm like, can you please send me
Speaker 1: the playlist you played? It was so relaxing and so healing.
Speaker 1: So um, yeah, I would love for you to share
Speaker 1: maybe like five songs that I mean. It's kind of
Speaker 1: funny that you asked, because a lot of the music
Speaker 1: that I listened to a lot is that like mantra
Speaker 1: and healing music. And yet when I was thinking about
Speaker 1: songs and what came to me was like Van Morrison
Speaker 1: crazy love is like so good. My wife and I've
Speaker 1: been together twenty eight years now, we've been married almost
Speaker 1: twenty five years and that was our wedding song, which
Speaker 1: is played out pretty pretty appropriately. So that was so
Speaker 1: love Van More Everything by Van Morrison. I mean Bob Marley.
Speaker 1: I mean, I grew up listenings so much like Lively
Speaker 1: up yourself so good. I put Bob Marley on almost
Speaker 1: like at least twice or two to three times a
Speaker 1: week in our house when I'm making dinner because he's
Speaker 1: so happy and there's step and yeah, you know another wise,
Speaker 1: I was thinking, like it's always got me for somebody,
Speaker 1: that Marshall Tucker band. Can't you see what that woman's
Speaker 1: been doing to me? That's a good one. Another apropos
Speaker 1: one for for my my relationship that's been like passionate
Speaker 1: and amazing but intense, like any passionate relationship is. I'm
Speaker 1: a classic rock fan, so like led Zeppelin, like stair
Speaker 1: Away to Heaven, I mean, come on so good. But
Speaker 1: I also I mean I love like rap and hip
Speaker 1: hop and stuff so like I mean, I love a
Speaker 1: lot of the new stuff coming out in hip hop,
Speaker 1: but I mean all the way back to like run DMCs,
Speaker 1: old school Run DMC is so good. My husband is
Speaker 1: a huge hip hop fan, and yeah, I've learned he's
Speaker 1: learned about country music for me, old school country music,
Speaker 1: and I've learned about old school hip hop from him.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and then I mean country. You know, my
Speaker 1: wife was from New York. You know, she got me
Speaker 1: into country music, and oh really yeah, you know, interestingly,
Speaker 1: kind of ironically because I grew up in a much
Speaker 1: more rural area of California and she grew up on
Speaker 1: Long Island, New York, and she was like fully into
Speaker 1: cut to music. Krishna Doss is like my you know,
Speaker 1: I mean that is Krishna Doss is probably my favorite.
Speaker 1: I have to say, um that the other day there
Speaker 1: was something that you played on the soundtrack and on
Speaker 1: the set whatever it's called things called a soundtrack, but
Speaker 1: on your playlist that he just had something about his
Speaker 1: voice like is so rich and moves me so deeply.
Speaker 1: So yeah, totally with you on Christian DAWs long, Um, well,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you so much for being here and
Speaker 1: and sharing your wisdom with our listeners. And I appreciate
Speaker 1: my experience because it's definitely, like like I said, I
Speaker 1: think I felt I felt like that the trees were breathing.
Speaker 1: I felt like there was like life became this intense
Speaker 1: experience for a few hours. It became something where I
Speaker 1: it was very it was very joyful and connected and
Speaker 1: that um yeah, I I really do appreciate being able
Speaker 1: to have that experience when we're removing those filters and
Speaker 1: so opened up to the true nature of this like glorious, amazing, abundant,
Speaker 1: like incredible life that we are blessed to have. It's
Speaker 1: like kind of psychedelically awesome. So let's do more and
Speaker 1: we can make that more of like the baseline where
Speaker 1: that just is like the starting point of every day
Speaker 1: and then you just go even more expanded from there.
Speaker 1: That would be amazing. Yeah, thank you, Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Thank you, And that wraps up this episode and our
Speaker 1: first season of Holy Human. Thank you all so much
Speaker 1: for joining me on this journey. I have had a
Speaker 1: blast creating this for you. From where we started to
Speaker 1: where we are now in twelve episodes is like night
Speaker 1: and day. So thank you so much for being on
Speaker 1: this ride with me. I look forward to discovering so
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