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Speaker 2: It is hello, and welcome to another week of teen Beat.

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Speaker 2: I'm Danielle Fischel, podcaster, TV director, celebrity ballroom dancer, mother

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Speaker 2: of two, and one half of Coryantopanga dot Com, a

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Speaker 2: website made by ABC when I was eighteen years old

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Speaker 2: for viewers to RSVP to my fictional televised wedding, and,

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Speaker 2: in addition to the website, my entire teenage existence from

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Speaker 2: twelve to nineteen years old unfolded in front of a

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Speaker 2: it was my first kiss or my first haircut, pop

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Speaker 2: culture saw it all, So now thirty years later, it's

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Speaker 2: time to turn the tables. My goal here on Teenbeat

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Speaker 2: is to sit down with interesting people who have accomplished

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Speaker 2: interesting things, in hopes that learning about their untelevised upbringings

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Speaker 2: will help us understand who they've become. Since their journey

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Speaker 2: through puberty wasn't detailed in issues of TV Guide, the

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Speaker 2: least they can do is share it with me. Now

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Speaker 2: I gave you my childhood, it's time we hear yours.

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Speaker 2: And this week I think I've found the perfect guest,

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Speaker 2: like those little gold necklaces that say your name incursive.

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Speaker 2: She was first seen on Sex in the City, but

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Speaker 2: since that debut, this youngest of five children has never

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Speaker 2: stopped working. Whether it was a scene stealing turn in

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Speaker 2: lead in Nick and Nora's Infinite Playlist, she quickly became

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Speaker 2: the actress everyone noticed, so Hollywood responded. She'd appear on

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Speaker 2: TV sets for six seasons as Max Black on the

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Speaker 2: hit CBS sitcom Two Broke Girls. Then, thanks to the

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Speaker 2: Thor Movies and WandaVision, she became my favorite part of

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Speaker 2: the Marvel universe, only behind Babygroot. Shouts to Babygroot, throw

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Speaker 2: in the house, Bunny, Dollface, big Mouth, and her current

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Speaker 2: gig starring alongside the grunting genius of Tim Allen on

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Speaker 2: ABC's Shifting Gears, a show that just returned to its

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Speaker 2: second season and features more cars than all of the

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Speaker 2: Fast and Furious movies combined, And you've got a bona

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Speaker 2: complexion of an eighteenth century portrait of a Nepo baby.

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Speaker 2: But I have the feeling that deep down somewhere inside

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Speaker 2: Please welcome to the podcast one of my absolute favorite

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Speaker 2: human beings, because keep in mind, Babygroot is an alien tree.

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Speaker 2: Cat Dennings.

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Speaker 3: Wow, I when I die, will you please? You'll drive me?

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Speaker 2: I will, I will, but I hope I die before you.

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Speaker 3: No, I refuse. Wow. Thank you? Was that made me

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Speaker 3: feel very accomplished.

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Speaker 2: Well you are. You are spectacular. And when we first

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Speaker 2: of Shifting Gears during the first season and I literally

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Speaker 2: came home to my husband and thought, it's going to

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Speaker 2: be awkward to tell him that I have fallen in

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Speaker 2: love with Cat Dennings. It's just it's going to be awkward.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to be And I felt so like scary.

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Speaker 2: I was like, no, you don't understand. I want to

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Speaker 2: be her friend for life, Like I just I want

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Speaker 2: to spend all my time with her. And then at

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Speaker 2: some point during the week, I just told you that

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Speaker 3: I the love was instant. Look, there are multiple soulmates

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Speaker 2: Uh huh, you are one of them.

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Speaker 3: For me, Okay, like, yes, you're you for those listening

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Speaker 3: and watching. You know, Danielle already. But the light and

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Speaker 3: the beauty emanating from all when you stand in Forever,

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Speaker 3: it is crazy. You're so I mean, you're more than

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, look who's talking. No, seriously, love.

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Speaker 3: And may I say, what a director, what a director

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: You obviously grew up doing multiicam, but not everyone absorbs yea,

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Speaker 3: multiicam and execute it like that. You're just You're wonderful.

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Speaker 3: You're wonderful, wonderful person, gorgeous.

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Speaker 2: It's very unfair, very listen, I feel all those exact

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Speaker 2: this isn't about me, but I know you are. Everyone.

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Speaker 2: By the way, everyone coming into the show, coming into

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Speaker 2: So it's not shocking that I feel this way about you.

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Speaker 2: You're just You're a remarkable human being. And it's one

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Speaker 2: of the main reasons why I wanted to sit down here,

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Speaker 3: Good. I'll create any podcasts you want to hang out

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Speaker 3: with you. I mean, we need to just get lunch.

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Speaker 3: We we This is how Hollywood is. You meet someone

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Speaker 3: this that, or in my case, you get the fluent

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Speaker 3: Bronchite is fifty times exactly. Okay, But I'm going to

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm prepared. We also we both love bread too,

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Speaker 3: Well, the interesting situation with my siblings is that both

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Speaker 3: And my dad was eighteen years older than my mom. Okay,

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Speaker 3: so standal. So my oldest sister, Claudia is in her sixties.

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Speaker 2: That makes sense, So it's probably probably wasn't as easy

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Speaker 3: I couldn't eat solid food. My my soft head thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And my mom said she was nauseous and barfing

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Speaker 2: That's where you got that gorgeous porcelain skin. It's actually

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Speaker 2: Could be the ice cream. My mom also ate a

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Speaker 3: Well, all the protein is why her hair is so good.

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Speaker 2: There you go, that's probably what it is. Probably Okay,

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Speaker 2: what were you When did you kind of grow out?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Maybe in my twenties? I yeah, I really like

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Speaker 3: I'm really serious. I was a mess. My brother then

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Speaker 3: Well, the weird thing is I was not allowed to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you could rent films really weird, weird, old, strange

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Speaker 2: Well, I want to get to the fact that you

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Speaker 3: No, I saw that shit. There were like places on

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Speaker 2: How did you then end up in a Hansen music

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Speaker 3: To this day? It is probably my best, my biggest

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Speaker 2: And I'm not joking, right, it's a that's a true

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Speaker 3: This is called manifestation folk.

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Speaker 2: You're right, you were doing the secret before anyone had

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Speaker 3: Sincroting that shit since I was he old what is

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Okay, I was Pinteresting before Pinterest. I

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Speaker 2: I love that, Okay, I love that.

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Speaker 3: So look, I don't know how this happened, but once

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Speaker 2: Okay, I still listen. They're great, Yes they are.

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Speaker 3: Oh look, So I had been vocal about how much

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I will do anything you want. I will

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Speaker 3: I was whatever, Yes, So I got to be in

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Speaker 2: And what did they think.

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Speaker 3: Left undercover of darkness. They were so and they were

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Speaker 3: I would feel very much like I could heal. I

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's what I'm saying. I think. I think that

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Speaker 2: it's not you. Where is she? Where is she? She

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean listen, I sound like an insane person,

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Speaker 2: Were friends ever afraid to sleep over?

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Speaker 3: No? I didn't tell them anything. I mean, well, you

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Speaker 3: know all sleepovers where we didn't sleep at all. The

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Speaker 2: Yes, let's talk about little cat. Did you have any

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Speaker 3: Oh my god? Yes, Well did you ever read? I

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00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 3: feel like we're very close in age and we're very similar.

441
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 3: So did you ever read Harrie at the Spy?

442
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 2: Yes, and all the Nancy Drew books, which is probably

443
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 2: a little too old for you.

444
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 3: No, no, no, because I inherited my sister's whole Nancy

445
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 3: drews aunts. Yes, so absolutely so. When I read Harriet

446
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 3: the Spy, I became obsessed with notebooks. Obsessed and now

447
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 3: still am.

448
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 2: This is my office, but it's beautiful.

449
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 3: I don't have any work to do, but like I

450
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 3: have like notebooks, and I still like every day I

451
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 3: come in here and iatious book. That was a gift.

452
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 3: I write in my little notebook and I hope no

453
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 3: one ever sees them. They're pathetic. I'm like today, I

454
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 3: don't know. Hey bye.

455
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 2: But that's like my diary from being a kid. I

456
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,199
Speaker 2: for I first of all, felt like I had to

457
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 2: everyone started with dear diary, like just the more you,

458
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 2: how are you sorry? It's been so long since I've

459
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 2: written who?

460
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 3: Who?

461
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 2: What?

462
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 3: What is that you're anthropomorphizing? You're feeling guilt? It's yea,

463
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 3: so it can go very it could go too far, yeah.

464
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 2: And then it would just be like a real quick

465
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 2: recap of like, oh I got.

466
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 3: I know, well, welcome to welcome to adult life, kids.

467
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 3: So I love to do that. I love to like

468
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 3: you know. I mean, look, we grew up without the internet, yep,

469
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 3: and it was a beautiful experience. I mean I was

470
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 3: born with anxiety, so to me it was also like, well,

471
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 3: how are my parents going to know where I How

472
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,199
Speaker 3: am I gonna know what? They're gonna pick me up? Like?

473
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:56,959
Speaker 3: I didn't like that. There was no like sys. So

474
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 3: like when cell phones and deepers and whatever happened, I

475
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 3: was happy about that. But without the Internet, I would,

476
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 3: you know, go outside. Oh here's something I like to do.

477
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 3: What a weird kid? You know how Cicadas?

478
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, where is this going?

479
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 3: Well, cicadas shit their skins, uh huh.

480
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 2: And they gave these translucentinch did you collect cicada skins?

481
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 3: Well, one of my favorite things to do was to

482
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 3: get the circada skins and attach them to my hair

483
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 3: and body and scare my mom, Oh my god, that's hilarious.

484
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 3: What's wrong with me?

485
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 2: I don't know, but it's the black silence of the lambs,

486
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 2: so it's just insane.

487
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 3: I would do that. I would there was a platform

488
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 3: next to the garage that I would do stand up

489
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 3: for the ferns. I mean I would do like a

490
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 3: tight ten, a.

491
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 2: Tight ten for the ferns. Man, Do you have any

492
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 2: of that on video? No course, videok. Video cameras back

493
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,360
Speaker 2: then are like this big yeah.

494
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. I would hang out with the neighbor's cat all day.

495
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 3: I was homeschool. I was you know, yeah, there's we

496
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 3: could we could we could diagnose me easily from from

497
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 3: this podcast. But you know I was I started acting.

498
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 2: Young, yeah, and it was just my life.

499
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 3: It was my life, and I was I was not cool.

500
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 3: I was not pretty according to the industry I had.

501
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 3: You know, I was an awkward kid who was very

502
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 3: very confident. I love that, very absurdly confident in myself,

503
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 3: and I think that is part of why things worked

504
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 3: out in the way that they did. If someone was like,

505
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 3: she's not pretty enough.

506
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 2: It was like a year, yeah, you obviously don't have eyes.

507
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, what is it?

508
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, I boy, I love that. I think

509
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 2: I think, uh, that is just generally the way every

510
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 2: kid should be raised, and the feeling every kid should

511
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 2: have is like, if you don't like something about me,

512
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 2: that's a you problem, that's your fault. Has nothing to

513
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 2: do with me and i'd so therefore don't need to

514
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 2: know that opinion. Keep it to yourself, Thank you very much.

515
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 3: Really, like my mom I mean and my dad, I mean,

516
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 3: they thought I was great, and I know not that

517
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 3: is not everybody's experience, and some people have a real

518
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 3: tough parental situation and it will expect you for the

519
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 3: rest of your life, which is what therapy and yours were. Yes,

520
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 3: but my mom thought I was still does thought I

521
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 3: was the best. Yeah, the most talented kid in the world,

522
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 3: the cutest kid in the world. She told me. She

523
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 3: was like, you're so beautiful, You're so special, you're so smart.

524
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 3: They don't know what they're talking about. And I was like, yeah,

525
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 3: and it really worked, but it works right, Like I

526
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 3: really felt. I felt like I was awesome and they

527
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 3: didn't know what they were talking about. And I think

528
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 3: it's funny to think about like a tiny little girl

529
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 3: with like enormous buff teeth and like huge frizzy hair

530
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 3: like hermione, like real deal her mind.

531
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, my teeth were huge.

532
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 3: Just the front, just the front ones, and my hair

533
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 3: was huge, and I wore like my brother's clothes. We

534
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 3: didn't have any money, so I wore like thrift store

535
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 3: stuff and my brother's.

536
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 2: I'd be cool now, yeah, exactly, because yeah, thrift store

537
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 2: stuff and upcycling and vintage is very cool. Were your

538
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 2: parents good at juggling homeschooling? This is a true story.

539
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 2: I can barely handle my first grader's homework. They're doing

540
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 2: new math now, and there's things called like factor families,

541
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 2: and I'm in awe of homeschool parents.

542
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 3: No. No, my dad, well, my dad had a.

543
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 2: Job, so he wasn't he wasn't involved.

544
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 3: Okay, he was a scientist, so he had like curing

545
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 3: cancer to worry about.

546
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 2: My goodness, my mom tried.

547
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 3: I mean, I went to a program like twice a

548
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 3: week for homeschooled kids, which was actually fantastic. It still exists.

549
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 3: It's called Open Connections.

550
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 2: Are that now?

551
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:24,959
Speaker 3: It's called Cupola Academy and it's in Pennsylvania. It was wonderful.

552
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 3: It was run by my parents' friends. It sounds it.

553
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 2: Sounds a little culty, uh huh okay.

554
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 3: But it was just it was like Montessori for homeschool kids.

555
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 3: It was like on their beautiful property. They were like

556
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 3: sort of like teachers there to supervise and it was

557
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 3: just like open play and like it was great. It

558
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 3: really was fantastic, and there was a wonderful dog there named.

559
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 2: Biscuit, Ah Biscuit.

560
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 3: It was just a nice environment and it was helpful

561
00:31:55,480 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 3: for kids who like, didn't didn't like or could really function.

562
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 3: Like I tried to go to school and I couldn't.

563
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 3: I don't know what's wrong with me.

564
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 2: When you tried to go to like a regular school,

565
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 2: traditional school.

566
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 3: I wanted to go to school in my like preteen time,

567
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 3: like I wanted the school experience, and I struggle with

568
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 3: the structure. I mean, surprise, I struggle with authority okay,

569
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 3: authority problem okay, and it's haunted me my whole life.

570
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 3: But but yeah, I mean I had a time where

571
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 3: I wanted to do that. But the homeschooling thing was

572
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 3: was great and the program was good. But when it

573
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 3: came to like, okay, now you're gonna do math and

574
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 3: English and history and this and that, my mom tried

575
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 3: with me for a long time, and it just there

576
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 3: was a point where I was like, listen, lady, get

577
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 3: out of the room. I got the textbooks, I have

578
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,239
Speaker 3: the thing.

579
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's say our relationship. Yeah, because you, I mean I'm.

580
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,959
Speaker 3: I'm thirty nine when my four year old five year

581
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 3: old old, she's six year old niece is like, blah

582
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 3: blah blah blah blah, this is what I'm learning at school.

583
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 3: I was like, what, She's like, I have no idea,

584
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 3: what's going on? I have Appa bearra. The other day

585
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 3: she was like, it's Kapa bara Okay.

586
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:16,959
Speaker 2: I say, I have a six and a half year

587
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 2: old and he comes home with his homework and I'm

588
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 2: trying to help him with it, and I'm like I cannot.

589
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 2: I thought I had many more years before I felt

590
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 2: like the homework was a problem for me.

591
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 3: I don't know how you do it.

592
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the kids on.

593
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 3: Well Little Barrett on Shifting Gears, who plays my daughter,

594
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 3: who's not so anymore Barrett Margolaz is wonderful. She was

595
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 3: telling me about what she was doing in school. She

596
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 3: was like, I just feel like, I'm not going to

597
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 3: use any of this. My girl, like, you're not. I'm

598
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,959
Speaker 3: you know, I mean you should pay attention because it's

599
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 3: a word. But I was like, I don't know anything.

600
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 2: No, And that's why the school you were talking about

601
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 2: where it was like open play and even the idea

602
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 2: that you had a problem with authority. Like, I love

603
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 2: that your parents and basically raised you instead of being

604
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 2: like this is how you raised children? Like children are

605
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 2: they They have different ways of expressing, they have different

606
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 2: ways of learning. And yeah, if you had spent years

607
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,240
Speaker 2: forcing yourself to every day go to traditional schooling following

608
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 2: the same structure, there's not a soul who meets you

609
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 2: and thinks what an uneducated lady you are?

610
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 3: Like credit to my parents. They they worked with me. Yeah,

611
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 3: and my mom was a stay at home mom, so

612
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 3: it was like I think if they both worked, it

613
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 3: wouldn't have been possible.

614
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you do so she could stay.

615
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 3: Home with me and indulge my every whim or whatever.

616
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 3: But like I learned then to love reading mm hmmm

617
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 3: because I wasn't forced, yeah to read, And nothing against school.

618
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 3: I really think like school is amazing for lots of

619
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 3: like personalities. Really, and now as an adult, I liked

620
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 3: structure a lot. When I was a kid, I was

621
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 3: it was just not I couldn't learn that way. It

622
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 3: was too hard for me. And I think my mom

623
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 3: My mom was a speech therapist and worked with kids,

624
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 3: and I think she also knew that I just wouldn't

625
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 3: do well and I would suffer mentally. Yeah, he was

626
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 3: absolutely right, So credit to her for that. But I

627
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 3: did learn then to love I loved math. I felt

628
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 3: like I was good at math. I loved math. I

629
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 3: went past the graduate level in math before I like

630
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 3: after I needed to. I just went past it. And

631
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 3: I just loved reading. I loved Shakespeare, I loved under

632
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 3: Alan Poe, and I could like pursue those interests, you know.

633
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 3: So that was nice. So it did cultivate like a

634
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 3: lot of passion for me.

635
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 2: Even though you were homeschooled. Was there ever a time

636
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 2: where you were boy crazy? Did you? Oh, other than

637
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 2: the Hanson and Jonathan Taylor Thomas, I was.

638
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 3: And by the way, readers, readers did official bed my

639
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 3: dreams come true on the Shifting Gears set because Jonathanaylor

640
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 3: Thomas came to visit you.

641
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 2: He did well, Yeah, he came to visit me, and

642
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 2: of course it helped that Tim was there.

643
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was another like closed circle thing, which

644
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:35,720
Speaker 3: was so crazy. Yeah, So I was insane boy crazy,

645
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 3: so just to the point where it was really embarrassing.

646
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 3: Like I kept so many notebooks and I read them.

647
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 3: I'm like good lord, what.

648
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 2: Is wrong with you? Do all of them end with like, ps,

649
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 2: I love whoever you loved at that time? That's how

650
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 2: much is this?

651
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 3: Miss? Is that? Yeah? So embarrassing? I mean I was

652
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 3: like the kid who I waited in line at like

653
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 3: Macy's for like three hours to do a meet and

654
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 3: greet with one of the guys from Roswell.

655
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 2: And he was lovely, good, good Brenden Fair.

656
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 3: I don't know where he is now. I haven't checked in.

657
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 3: I'm sure he's doing great. I don't know, but I

658
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 3: waited in line at that store to meet him and

659
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 3: I got a picture with him and I blew it up.

660
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 3: Did you know that you can blow photos up to

661
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 3: be like four by two feet?

662
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 2: I did that.

663
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 3: I found out and that's what I did, and I

664
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 3: hung it in my room.

665
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 2: Was it in the attic? Oh my gosh, Brendan.

666
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 3: Fair haunted the attic along with the actual ghosts. Poor guy.

667
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 2: Do you remember who your first in real life crush was?

668
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 3: I sure do? And you know what? We are friends

669
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 3: on Instagram to the vie and I hope he's okay

670
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 3: with me shouting him out. I'll he's he's listen. This

671
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 3: is a childhood thing. I think that we were both

672
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 3: like four. His name was Paul is he's a lie Paul,

673
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 3: I won't say it's that's name for his bribes. Yeah,

674
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 3: he works in fashion now he's married to a beautiful

675
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 3: woman who's a lawyer, who's like very smart. And he

676
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 3: turned out. I still have like a little jewelry box

677
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,720
Speaker 3: he gave me for my birthday. Our moms were friends.

678
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 3: We took French class together and my mom told me

679
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 3: later that Paul was a prince in Thailand.

680
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 2: What so my.

681
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 3: First love was a prince.

682
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 2: Wow?

683
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 3: Because Paul's mom is from Thailand and apparently she's a princess.

684
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 2: She's royalty there.

685
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 3: So I had no idea. I mean, this kid was

686
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 3: the He was so sweet and so cute, and we

687
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 3: loved each other so much, and I had the biggest

688
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 3: crush on him. And he grew up to be a

689
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 3: very handsome man who works in fashion and he's lovely.

690
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 2: I love that. I love that. My first crush and

691
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 2: I are also friends on Instagram. And his name was Eric,

692
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:13,959
Speaker 2: and Eric was the cutest boy I had ever seen

693
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 2: in my entire life. And he had he had kind

694
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 2: of like Zach Morris hair, before there was ever before

695
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 2: Zach Morris existed, but the blonde. He had blonde hair

696
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 2: that was like in a wave in the front. It

697
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 2: was very popular in nineteen eighty six, and oh my gosh,

698
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 2: it was beautiful. And my mom came to school one

699
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 2: day to help with like you know, it was around

700
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 2: Valentine's Day and they were asking for parent volunteers to

701
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 2: help pass out the Valentines. And so my mom knew

702
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 2: that I had this crush on Eric, and one of

703
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 2: her responsibilities in the classroom was to take photos, and

704
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 2: so I told her before she came, I was like,

705
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 2: just please get a picture of Eric alone, because I

706
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 2: wanted to print it out and put it in a

707
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 2: frame in my room. And then I remember my mom, like,

708
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 2: I have very few memories of being this young, but

709
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,399
Speaker 2: the memory I have of watching her go to take

710
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 2: the photo of him, and you know that feeling when

711
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 2: you're like everyone knows it's too obvious. I like, may

712
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 2: I caused a huge seat. I was like, mom, and

713
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 2: she like turned and looked at me, like what And

714
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 2: I was like, I mean you over here and she

715
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 2: was like but I'm and I was like, no one

716
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 2: was suspecting of anything. She was just walking around taking pictures.

717
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 2: But I was so worried that he was gonna know

718
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 2: that she was like my personal paparazzo that it panicked me.

719
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 2: But she ended up getting one and when she printed

720
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 2: the photo out, I used to walk home from school

721
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 2: and she taped it to the door that led into

722
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 2: the house, so that the minute I arrived at the door,

723
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 2: his picture was on the door. And I had a

724
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 2: white ceramic heart picture frame, and you did let his

725
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 2: little face fit in.

726
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

727
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 2: And years later, I mean, this is Jensen and I

728
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 2: are married, and somehow it comes up like our first crushes,

729
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 2: and I say, oh, mine was Eric, And I go,

730
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 2: I wonder what he's up to now, and I find

731
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: him on Instagram and he was in a speedo with

732
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: his husband at at burning Man and I was like oh.

733
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 2: And so then I reached out to my mom and

734
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: I said, Mom, I found Eric on Instagram and he's

735
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 2: married to a man. And my home said, of course

736
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 2: he is. That was very obvious.

737
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,479
Speaker 3: Ah, yes, Eric.

738
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 2: And then we went to go see Paw Patrol. Jensen

739
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 2: and I with our kids, and Eric was the choreographer

740
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 2: of Pop Patrol Live, and we ran into him with

741
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 2: his husband, and we got to reunite and we followed

742
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 2: each other and now we're friends again. That's insane, isn't

743
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:52,720
Speaker 2: that crazy?

744
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 3: That is Wow? What a hero's journey.

745
00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 2: Yeah really, I've just the Paw Patrol line. Did all

746
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 2: the choreography for Paw Patrol Life. What a success. I'm

747
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 2: so proud of him. So yeah, so awesome.

748
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 3: Both became like.

749
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 2: I know, we had good taste, like you know, like

750
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 2: that's yeah, I'm proud of us me too.

751
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 3: God, how beautiful.

752
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 2: So one of the things that when I saw you

753
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 2: on the Shifting Gear set that we talked about was

754
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 2: because one of the Shifting Gears writers, Miss Morgan Murphy,

755
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 2: incredibly talented. She is completely obsessed with baseball cards, collects

756
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 2: she looks through all of them. And Morgan has an

757
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 2: Alan and Ginter Tops card. I have an Alan and

758
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 2: Ginter Tops card, and Morgan and I decided we wanted

759
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 2: to bring each other one and sign them for one another.

760
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 2: And so you saw us doing this and you said,

761
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 2: what what is this? Where? How did you get these cards?

762
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 2: And I said, do you would you want one? Would

763
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: you want to have a card made? And you said

764
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,919
Speaker 2: I sure would, And it ended up happening. You now

765
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 2: have your very own Alan and Ginter Tops card.

766
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 3: You are my manager because you made this happen because

767
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 3: I didn't. I mean, it blew my mind. First of all,

768
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 3: I don't know anything about like baseball cards and stuff.

769
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 3: My brother's huge into that. When I saw that, I

770
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 3: was like, wait, how is this possible?

771
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 2: Huh?

772
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 3: And then you made the magic happen because they got

773
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:33,919
Speaker 3: in touch with me and they were.

774
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 2: I reached out to them. I was like, listen, I'm

775
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 2: with Katkat needs a card.

776
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:41,240
Speaker 3: You're my rep. You should get fifteen percent, to be honest.

777
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 3: Then they paid me.

778
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was because you signed him right.

779
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. I was like, you're gonna pay me for this, Okay,

780
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna argue. And I did it all like

781
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 3: just I'm I wanted my brother to think I was cool.

782
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 2: Yeah that and it worked, I think.

783
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 3: A little bit. He thinks it's hilarious. It is the

784
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 3: coolest thing maybe that I've ever seen.

785
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty amazing. And it's gotten me into baseball

786
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 2: cards and my sons are into baseball cards. We like

787
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 2: to open packs together. It's been very fun. But I

788
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 2: bring it up because I stumbled upon a guy on

789
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 2: Instagram actually who opened a pack of cards live on

790
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:34,280
Speaker 2: Instagram and he had your one of one. So they're

791
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 2: all they're all numbered, and this is one of one.

792
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 2: There's only one of these and he got it and

793
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 2: I reached out to him and I said, I need

794
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 2: to buy that from you. So I bought your one

795
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 2: of one. It's my gift to you. The next time

796
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 2: I see you, I'm going to gift this to you.

797
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 2: Money I did. I had you need to have your

798
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 2: own one of one. Look how beautiful this card is.

799
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

800
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 2: So shout out to Jason, who was so like the

801
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 2: minute the minute. We reached out and said can we

802
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 2: buy this? And he was like yeah, why but you

803
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 2: know why what do you what do you want with it?

804
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 2: And I said I would actually like to gift it

805
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 2: to cat and he said it's all hers, it's so

806
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 2: he he easily handed it over. Shout out, yeah, so

807
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 2: I have this for you the next time I see you.

808
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 3: Well stop, I can't mind blowing. Okay, Well what do

809
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 3: I do with it? It's going it's going on at

810
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 3: I'm going to wear it like on a little lanyard around.

811
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 2: I recommend you get it graded. Get it p s

812
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 2: A graded, so you send it off, we can actually

813
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 2: bring it. I think it's down Orange County. Maybe I'll

814
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 2: get graded for you. I right, I might do some

815
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 2: more work, but I want to have it graded because

816
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 2: you want to. You want it to be like a

817
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,280
Speaker 2: nine or a ten. You you got to get it graded.

818
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 2: But it's a very cool thing for you to own

819
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: forever and to have in your family. And yeah, it's

820
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 2: it's very cool.

821
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 3: God, thank you so much. Thank you to you and

822
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 3: Jason go.

823
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 2: You are welcome. Now on Shifting Gears, you are famously

824
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 2: around some of the most gorgeous cars of all time.

825
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 2: Has it made you want to buy a car from

826
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 2: when you were a teenager? And if so, what do

827
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 2: you think you'd get?

828
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 3: It's like you're in my brain, it really is. Yeah.

829
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 3: First of all, I've always liked vintage cars, like because

830
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 3: they're beautiful. Every time I asked him Alan about a

831
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 3: specific car, he's like a tone might He's like, they're

832
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 3: so difficult. So you see, if you go on the

833
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 3: set of Shifting Gears or I mean any day, there's

834
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 3: like four immaculate, beautiful, like mint condition vintage cars that

835
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 3: belong to smalon and if you ask about any of them,

836
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 3: he just goesugh, because what you learned is they require

837
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 3: he has a staff.

838
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 2: Uh huh.

839
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 3: Correct, he has a staff just for the cars.

840
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, because he has a lot.

841
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 3: Of that, a lot of cars. They require a full

842
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 3: time maintenance staff. So he has people who shammy the.

843
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 2: Car, ye drive and start the engines, change the oil

844
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 2: they die yep.

845
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 3: Okay. So so he's got a full time nanny staff

846
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 3: for these cars, and they seem to be a huge

847
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 3: pain in the ass. However, the one I'll give to

848
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 3: answers the one there that I was very struck actually

849
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 3: too that I was very struck by of tims. One

850
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 3: is the FOURD F one fifty from the from the fifties.

851
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 3: It's like beautiful, like a cartoon of a car, like bubbly,

852
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 3: like rounded, like a toy, like a toy come to life.

853
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 3: Like every kid's dream is this car. So that one, yes,

854
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 3: he said it's difficult to drive, yep. So a vintage

855
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 3: Bronco that's the dream as.

856
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 2: An adult too.

857
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 3: It's sick.

858
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 2: He's got the orange.

859
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 3: He's got like a crazy one in there that sometimes

860
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 3: in the set. But the vintage Bronco is my like dream,

861
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 3: and I found this company who does like beautifully restore

862
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 3: vintage Ronnie. Like, how much could they be that? Like

863
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 3: two hundred thousand dollars?

864
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,760
Speaker 2: Huh? I think I know that place that you're talking

865
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 2: about because I also have found that.

866
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

867
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 3: And then there's also a land Rover one because I

868
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 3: also love a vintage land Rover. Those are hopefully two

869
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars like squeeze me.

870
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 2: I know, I know that's.

871
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,879
Speaker 3: Not happening, but I mean maybe what hey, listen, if

872
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 3: we get ten seasons, maybe I'll.

873
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,760
Speaker 2: Buy, Yes, manifest that I will.

874
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 3: But then the car from my childhood that my mom

875
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 3: had that I've forever thought about was a Mitsubishi Montero.

876
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:09,760
Speaker 2: Oh.

877
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 3: It was a black Mitsubishi Montero and it was boxy.

878
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 3: It had no uh safety things at all, like no

879
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 3: bags forget. It was just it looks Unfortunately the only

880
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 3: thing that looks like it and is the g Wagon,

881
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 3: which I don't have. I mean, I would like to

882
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 3: get a g Wagon and take off the branding and

883
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 3: like put a Mitsubishi thing on my dreams. I love

884
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 3: like a boxy vehicle. So the Mitsubishi Montero. I don't

885
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 3: think they're they don't exist anymore. But that was that

886
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 3: was like my childhood car that I just loved. She

887
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,760
Speaker 3: also had a minivan with like the wood the wood

888
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:56,760
Speaker 3: siding on the front.

889
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's great. A minivan with the woodside. Yeah,

890
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 2: that that seems wonderful. How do you think Tim sources

891
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 2: his cars? I bet if you told him you wanted

892
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 2: a Mitsubishi Montero, one of those staff members might be

893
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 2: able to find one for you.

894
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 3: I think they can do anything. I mean, yeah, I

895
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 3: wonder if it was it might have been after your episode.

896
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 3: But there's a storyline where my son Carter played by

897
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 3: Maxwell Simpkins once is going to fix up a car

898
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 3: with Tim in the show, and they didn't have the

899
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 3: specific car, so Tim got one. T Tim got it

900
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 3: for the show. I'm sure it was right off, but

901
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 3: he found and purchased this car for the show. I

902
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 3: mean he's very like, he's very detail oriented. I think

903
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:46,720
Speaker 3: he can find anything. I don't know how these people

904
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 3: do it.

905
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 2: I don't either, I really don't, but I mean I

906
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 2: guess when you are that experienced in that field and

907
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 2: you know as many people as you do, because you know,

908
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 2: over the years he's had to I mean he knows

909
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 2: every This is not just like he has a purchasing problem.

910
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 2: This man knows every single thing about cars.

911
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 3: He's it is his passion.

912
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 2: Yes, it really is.

913
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 3: It's not a vanity thing. It's like a compulsion.

914
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. Yeah, he has to do it. He has

915
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 2: to do it. And his daughter Katie is on set

916
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 2: all the time. Also an absolute expert. She's so awesome

917
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 2: and she loves her car. I don't know her exact title,

918
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 2: but she's like the car handler supervisor, and she knows

919
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:37,919
Speaker 2: everything about cars, the engine, she knows, whatever the thing is.

920
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 2: You can ask any questions she knows. The answer is.

921
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 2: She's really unbelievable. Yeah she is. And she also dresses

922
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 2: really cute and she gets she's like in cute high

923
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 2: heel boots and jeans and it looks adorable. And then

924
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 2: she gets down on the floor and is underneath working

925
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 2: on car parts and working on a.

926
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 3: Hood I don't know, on tinker. I mean, it's amazing.

927
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty. It's pretty incredible. If I were going

928
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 2: to get a car, I'm torn because I also love

929
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 2: a vintage Bronco is probably my number one, But for like,

930
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 2: just because I love the way they look and I

931
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 2: think they're so beautiful and they're so classic. But like

932
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 2: nostalgia wise, for me, all I wanted the minute I

933
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 2: turned sixteen in the car I really wanted to buy.

934
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 2: I wanted a red Toyota celica convertible. What and my

935
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,959
Speaker 2: mom was like, absolutely not, absolutely not, You're not driving

936
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 2: a convertible. I ended up getting a Toyota fore Runner

937
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,720
Speaker 2: because that's that she was more comfortable with me driving.

938
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: Was it red?

939
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 2: It was not? It was black?

940
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 3: Okay, very cool?

941
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 2: Very cool? Oh, very cool. And I loved that car.

942
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 2: I totaled it immediately, but very very cool. So I

943
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 2: think I think I might have to like fulfill because,

944
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 2: like you said, the vintage Broncos we want, we cannot

945
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 2: afford currently. Oh could you? Yeah, could you just have

946
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,240
Speaker 2: to choose? Exactly?

947
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 3: Were you really to give up?

948
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 2: I did ask him about a vintage Bronco and he

949
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 2: did exactly what you said.

950
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 3: He was like, he was like, don't do it. You

951
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 3: have seven of them?

952
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. He's like, yeah, I know, but that's me.

953
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 3: If you really imagine you in a in a in

954
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 3: a car with the thing down with the hair blowing.

955
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:21,720
Speaker 3: You've got to live that truth.

956
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 2: I do. I have to have I really do have to.

957
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 2: I don't know that I would need to buy it.

958
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 2: Maybe I could find one one is there like a

959
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 2: luxury like not that that's a luxury car, but like

960
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 2: is there like it's very maybe a vintage car. Rental

961
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,240
Speaker 2: that's what That's what somebody should make, is a rental

962
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 2: car company just for cool older cars. And then this might.

963
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 3: Because well maybe like one of our outings together can

964
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 3: be a convertible like ride along.

965
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,879
Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be fun? I would I would love that.

966
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 3: I also would love that.

967
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 2: Okay, looking back, if you could go back in time

968
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:03,879
Speaker 2: and tell young Kat anything, what would you tell her?

969
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 3: Start zoleof sooner?

970
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 2: Oh listen, I could laugh, But I also know how

971
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 2: true that feeling is. My husband is medicated for OCD

972
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 2: and was in and out of therapy for his life

973
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 2: for a very long time, and nothing was working, and

974
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 2: he just thought he was going to be in shambles

975
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 2: for the rest of his life until he found the

976
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 2: right medication. And had he not been on fluvoxamen, which

977
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 2: is the medication that works for him, if he did

978
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 2: not have fluvoxamene. We would not be able to be married,

979
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 2: he would not be able to have children. His entire

980
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 2: life would was and would be different until he found

981
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 2: the right medication. So as much as I'm with you, baby, yeah.

982
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 3: It's and I'm not I'm not joking. I know. As

983
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 3: I said earlier, I've like I have had anxiety my

984
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 3: whole life. Yeah, And I was listening to the Boy

985
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 3: Meets World podcast Pod meets World shout Out, thank you,

986
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 3: So I wanted to start from the beginning because there's

987
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 3: so hundreds of episodes and I know I was listening

988
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 3: to uh Will talking about his struggles and stuff, and

989
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 3: I really identify with that, and I've it it. I

990
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 3: thought I'd grow out of it. Yeah, and I did not,

991
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 3: And it only like intensified and changed shape as I

992
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 3: grew up. And I decided to, like, you know what,

993
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 3: why not? And it is great?

994
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, life changing changing.

995
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 3: I tried. I tried changing diet. I tried a lot

996
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:45,879
Speaker 3: of actually exercise, like strenuous regular exercise helped a lot.

997
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, but who has the time exactly. I know for Jensen,

998
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 2: it was running like he would have to aggressively run

999
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 2: like fast, long runs, helped when before he had medications

1000
00:55:58,880 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 2: to children.

1001
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 3: He has a wife, he has, I presume other.

1002
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 2: Things, multiple jobs.

1003
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean in order to exercise for your

1004
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 3: mental health that much you got it's your whole day.

1005
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1006
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 3: And some people can do Kim Kardashian can do it.

1007
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 3: I can't.

1008
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 2: Yep.

1009
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's my answer. It's it's not a depressing thing.

1010
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 3: It's like a great it's a great thing that these

1011
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 3: things yes available to help. So yeah, that's my answer.

1012
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 3: Start sooner and keep being the confident little weirdo that

1013
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 3: you are.

1014
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 2: Because it's going to definitely pay off. You have such

1015
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 2: a beautiful life that you have manifested for yourself, and

1016
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 2: you work with such wonderful people who speak so highly

1017
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 2: of you, And no matter what job you go to,

1018
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 2: you leave that job and people go, when can I

1019
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 2: work with her again? Like this? There are people, me included,

1020
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 2: who would jump into a project without knowing a single

1021
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 2: other thing about it other than just knowing you were involved.

1022
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:06,399
Speaker 2: I don't. I would just be like, yes, I'm there, dang, hey,

1023
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 2: you and me.

1024
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: I watched that.

1025
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 3: Hey, honestly about dancing, I can't dance, don't.

1026
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 2: Okay, we won't do a show together about dancing. But

1027
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 2: I would chop off an arm to act alongside you

1028
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 2: in something I would. I don't know that that would

1029
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 2: be good for the career.

1030
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 3: Don't do that.

1031
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 2: Listen.

1032
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 3: If I couldn't make this happen, Yeah, we can make

1033
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 3: that happen. I think it'd be pretty easy.

1034
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, ten years of shifting gears. Then then you

1035
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 2: buy your vintage Bronco. Maybe you buy me one two.

1036
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 2: You know, we'll buy us matching vintage Broncos when you

1037
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 2: get ten years of shifting gears, and then we'll go

1038
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 2: into you know, our sitcom together where we're living together.

1039
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 2: We're basically the Golden Girls.

1040
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 3: It's basically two road girls.

1041
00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 2: Except also except not broke. I'm it, okay, I love it.

1042
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 2: There may be a better pitch, and we have some time.

1043
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 2: We have some time to come up with it.

1044
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 3: We have some time to figure it out.

1045
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe we're just two old girls.

1046
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 3: Yes, no, listen, if if you haven't aged eight.

1047
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 2: Day, no no, no, no, tell that to my grace.

1048
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 3: Don't. Oh yeah, well you know what. You don't even

1049
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 3: want to don't even get into it with the Grays.

1050
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 2: I mean I can't. I literally just didn't. I washed

1051
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 2: my hair and as I was blow during it, I'm like, I,

1052
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 2: I mean, look at this hand. Those are all gray. Nope,

1053
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 2: those are all gray.

1054
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:41,959
Speaker 3: You can't see. If you're a dark blonde, you're good.

1055
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 3: This is you can't see because we're on the zoom.

1056
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 3: But there's they've decided to be right in the front

1057
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 3: and then under here. Yep. I would like to like,

1058
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 3: if I went all gray, I'd go with the That'd

1059
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 3: be sick.

1060
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 2: That's how I feel.

1061
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 3: It's not a little bit is just what it just

1062
00:58:58,040 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 3: looks like I'm balding.

1063
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 2: Yep. That's exactly how exactly how I feel. But I

1064
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 2: have when when's the time when do we go all gray?

1065
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1066
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 3: I'm not sure when that is only have sprinklings, But

1067
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 3: when it happens, I'm.

1068
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 2: Gonna embrace it. Yeah, guys, Kat Dennings is just the best. Right.

1069
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 2: You can catch her on Shifting Gears on ABC Wednesday

1070
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 2: nights at eight seven Central and streaming on Hulu the

1071
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 2: next day. And this Friday, we have a bonus episode

1072
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 2: with Kat. We'll listen to one of our listener's personal

1073
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 2: stories of childhood embarrassment and learn a bit more about

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00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,960
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