WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Because I'm Happy

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals Booth Podcast, the Because I'm Happy edition, as

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<v Speaker 1>we take a look at the Bengals Hall on Day

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<v Speaker 1>three of the NFL Draft and provide an overview of

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<v Speaker 1>a draft class featuring a Heisman Trophy winning quarterback, a

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<v Speaker 1>big play threat and wide receiver, and three newcomers at

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<v Speaker 1>the team's most obvious position of need. The Bengals Booth

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<v Speaker 1>in Cincinnati. He challenged viewers to imitate their favorite Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Burrow gifts, and a six year old named Jake Hoffsteader,

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<v Speaker 1>Trust me, it's priceless. Now let's learn about the newest

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals from people who have watched them play. After choosing

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<v Speaker 1>linebacker Logan Wilson with the first pick in the third

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<v Speaker 1>round on Friday night, the Bengals doubled down at the

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<v Speaker 1>position at the top of the fourth round on Saturday

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<v Speaker 1>by selecting Appalachian States Akeem Davis Gaither. By traditional standards,

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<v Speaker 1>he's undersized for linebacker at six one two twenty four,

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<v Speaker 1>but the game is changing. Devin Bush is two inches

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<v Speaker 1>shorter and about ten pounds heavier and was the tenth

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<v Speaker 1>pick in last year's draft before having a strong rookie

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<v Speaker 1>season for the Steelers. For more on a Keen Davis Gaither,

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<v Speaker 1>here's Appalachian State play by play voice Adam Witton. A

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<v Speaker 1>Keem is one of those guys who is incredibly versatile

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<v Speaker 1>as a player. Dan, thanks for thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>We're really excited as the Appalachian family to see him

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<v Speaker 1>get drafted so early and see a guy really who

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<v Speaker 1>has worked his tail off to get to where he has.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody that's been drafted has their own story to get

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<v Speaker 1>to this point. But I think what people are really

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<v Speaker 1>gonna like about a team is his work ethic and

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<v Speaker 1>his motivation and his attitude. He's got the physical traits.

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<v Speaker 1>He's incredibly fast, he's strong, He's put on about fifty

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<v Speaker 1>pounds since he came on campus as one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five pound freshman in twenty fifteen. But just to

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<v Speaker 1>see where he was and where he's gotten to now

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<v Speaker 1>is a true testament to his work ethic. That guy

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<v Speaker 1>is someone that wasn't very highly recruited out of high school.

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<v Speaker 1>He had one Power five offer really out of Thomasville

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<v Speaker 1>High School near Winston Salem in North Carolina. But he

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<v Speaker 1>has developed, he has learned, he has applied himself, and

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<v Speaker 1>now all of a sudden, he has taken that strong

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<v Speaker 1>work ethic and combined it with some amazing physical traits

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<v Speaker 1>to become the complete package and linebacker. I like that,

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that he can do a lot of different things,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think He's big enough to be somebody

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<v Speaker 1>that can tackle in space one on one. He's fast

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<v Speaker 1>enough to track guys down sideline to sideline on the perimeter,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've seen him a lot in coverage to being

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<v Speaker 1>able to cover tight ends or slot receivers and be

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<v Speaker 1>able to make plays and cause some destruction in the

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<v Speaker 1>passing game as well. I think Bengal fans are really

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<v Speaker 1>gonna like this young man. We are talking to the

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<v Speaker 1>voice of Appalachian State, Adam Witton. He's a coaches kid.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that evident when you were around him? I think so.

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<v Speaker 1>But but the interesting thing about a team is that

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't really have a love for football when he

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<v Speaker 1>was in high school until about midway through his high

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<v Speaker 1>school career. You know, his dad, Keith, has been a

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<v Speaker 1>coach for for a long time, and so it was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of something that was expected out of him when

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<v Speaker 1>when he was growing up. But it wasn't until midway

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<v Speaker 1>through his high school career that that he kind of

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<v Speaker 1>developed that love for football. But once he did develop

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<v Speaker 1>that love and that passion for it, you can really

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<v Speaker 1>see it. I mean, all the things that you look

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<v Speaker 1>for in someone who who grows up in a football family,

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<v Speaker 1>and a coach's son um. You can see the discipline,

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<v Speaker 1>you can see the attention to detail, you can see

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<v Speaker 1>the attitude. He is mature way beyond his years because

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<v Speaker 1>he has learned a lot of those traits I think

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<v Speaker 1>from his upbringing, and so yes, you can you can

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<v Speaker 1>certainly see that come across not watching him play, but

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<v Speaker 1>when you get a chance to speak to him and

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<v Speaker 1>be around him off the field as well. He has

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<v Speaker 1>special teams experience at Appalachian State. He told us that

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<v Speaker 1>he was the special teams player of the year early

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<v Speaker 1>in his career in college, and that's likely something he'll

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<v Speaker 1>be asked to do in Cincinnati. Do you see him

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<v Speaker 1>contributing right away in that department? I do you know

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<v Speaker 1>a tame One of the highlights of his career was

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<v Speaker 1>this past season and it was on special teams. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he early in the year, you see guys like him

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<v Speaker 1>that are on cover junits, getting down, making tackles, causing

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<v Speaker 1>havoc in the kickoff return game when you're on the

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<v Speaker 1>other side. But Akame's biggest play, maybe in his career,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the ones that he's going to be remembered for,

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<v Speaker 1>is he blocked the field goal to beat North Carolina

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<v Speaker 1>early in the season. For the Mountaineers, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>monumental win for the program, beating an ACC program from

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<v Speaker 1>within the state, their first win over a P five

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<v Speaker 1>program since Michigan into seven, and a team had the

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<v Speaker 1>game winning play by by blocking the kick to give

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<v Speaker 1>Appalachian a three point win. So, whether it's in coverage,

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<v Speaker 1>making tackles on kickoff coverage or punk coverage, or even

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<v Speaker 1>on the block units to be able to make a

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<v Speaker 1>play and field goal block or even punk block, he's

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot of different ways he could potentially help

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<v Speaker 1>on special teams. You mentioned that he's added about fifty

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<v Speaker 1>pounds since enrolling in college one seventy five to two

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five. Is that about all that he can grow

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<v Speaker 1>to or is there still room to maybe add a

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<v Speaker 1>little more size. It's a good question. You know, we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen this at places like Appalachian where guys, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>traditionally at a a G five program like an app state,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll tend to get guys who are super talented but

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a little bit under size. But we've seen them

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<v Speaker 1>graduate into the NFL and then put on a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more bulk. You know, one of the team's biggest strengths

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<v Speaker 1>is his speed. He is uniquely quick as a linebacker,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was able to play an outside linebacker position

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<v Speaker 1>in a three to four bass because of that speed

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<v Speaker 1>and the way that he could get out of the

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback or track guys down in space. And so I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I think it kind of remains to be

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<v Speaker 1>seeing whether or not getting larger than two twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be a benefit for him, because I

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<v Speaker 1>think even at two twenty five, he's strong enough and

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<v Speaker 1>has good enough technique to still tackle bigger guys. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the one thing that you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>do is do anything to make him lose some of

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<v Speaker 1>the things he's really good at, which is certainly his quickness.

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<v Speaker 1>Final question for Appalachian State broadcaster Adam Whitton. I was

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<v Speaker 1>surprised to learn that a team suffered a stress fracture

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<v Speaker 1>in his foot in Week three and kept playing, made

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<v Speaker 1>it through the season, played in the Senior Bowl, then

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<v Speaker 1>had foot surgery in March. What does that say about

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<v Speaker 1>a Keen Davis Gaither? It certainly shows his toughness, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know that that's one way to look at It's

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<v Speaker 1>because I think a lot of us kind of learned

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<v Speaker 1>towards the end of the season just what he was

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with throughout twenty nineteen. The fact that you said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it happened in that North Carolina game that

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<v Speaker 1>we just talked about. Um, but we saw, we saw

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<v Speaker 1>those signs of him slowing down. He was still as

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<v Speaker 1>good as ever and continued to improve his stock at

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<v Speaker 1>the season went along. Um. You know, he was impressive

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<v Speaker 1>in the Senior Bowls, as we've discussed, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>think if anything, it says his ability to to really

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<v Speaker 1>do whatever is required for him to get the job accomplished. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>I've talked about his determination, which is which is apparent

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<v Speaker 1>as we've seen him throughout his Appalachian career. But the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that he was still just as productive as he

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<v Speaker 1>was even battling that injury in his senior season. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>ideally it says, man, after now a long time to

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<v Speaker 1>heal from from that procedure, you know, imagine, could he

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<v Speaker 1>be even better than than what we saw in his

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<v Speaker 1>senior season Appalachian, which was pretty spectacular. So hopefully it

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<v Speaker 1>gives maybe even a higher ceiling than we originally thought.

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<v Speaker 1>Excellent luck at fourth round pick Akeem Davis Gaither courtesy

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<v Speaker 1>of broadcaster Adam Witton. In the fifth round, the Bengal

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<v Speaker 1>selected Notre Dame defensive end Khaled Kareem, a six four,

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and sixty eight pounder who was a two

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<v Speaker 1>year starter for the Fighting Irish and had thirteen sacks

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<v Speaker 1>over the last three years. Here's a closer look at

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<v Speaker 1>Kareem from Bengals defensive coordinator lou Anna Rumo. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>at this point in the draft, when you get a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that's as big and as tall and as long

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, a guy's an eighty four inch wingspan,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, had thirteen somewhat sacks in his career, was

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<v Speaker 1>a captain and Notre Dame last year you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>some and has passed rush ability again in the fifth round.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's, uh, those are traits that we like.

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<v Speaker 1>Seems like everybody year draft and has been a team

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<v Speaker 1>captain was severing elegance. I mean, it's it's it's building

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<v Speaker 1>a heck of a culture. It seems like, yeah, it helps.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean those guys, Uh, you know, anybody anytime you've

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<v Speaker 1>got leaders, uh you know that we're leaders in college.

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<v Speaker 1>Certainly that uh that Lens lends itself to being a

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<v Speaker 1>better leader in the pro so and at a place

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<v Speaker 1>like Notre Dame, you know, which is uh obviously is

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. So we're very excited about it. You've

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<v Speaker 1>got five free agents that could start. Logan Wilson was drafted.

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<v Speaker 1>Now this player from Notre Dame. Can you talk about

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<v Speaker 1>how the talent on defense had just been transformed? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it was over the last few years. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously got here late last year, but uh, um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as I've said, since I've gotten here, this has been

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<v Speaker 1>a proud place when it comes to defense, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for a long long time, and it hasn't been that

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<v Speaker 1>way the last few years. And uh, you know, some

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<v Speaker 1>of the players getting older and you know, for whatever

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<v Speaker 1>the reasons. But part of it is our job is

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<v Speaker 1>to evaluate and uh get younger bodies in here that

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<v Speaker 1>can compete for spots, and you know, who ends up

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<v Speaker 1>starting and all that will play itself out. But our

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<v Speaker 1>jobs is to get a pool to create competition and

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<v Speaker 1>then the best guys will bubble up and play. And

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing that with both free hc in the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we get to the Bengal sixth round pick, here's

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<v Speaker 1>a quick reminder that you can take your Bengals pride

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<v Speaker 1>to the next level in twenty twenty with an official

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals fan package from Prime Sport. The Bengal selected one

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<v Speaker 1>offensive lineman in this year's draft, Hakim Identagy, a four

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<v Speaker 1>year starter at Kansas who played tackle there before taking

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<v Speaker 1>some snaps at guard and the Senior Bowl. He's six four,

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred pounds and had a fourth round grade according

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<v Speaker 1>to draft guru Dane Brugler, but fell to the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>at the top of round six. From more on Identagy,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the voice of the Kansas Jayhawks, Brian Haney. Well, Dad,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks a lot for having me on. I'm so excited

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<v Speaker 1>for a Kim and picks it Cinnati stats be pumped two.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a guy who was the model of consistency

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<v Speaker 1>from the first day he arrives on campus. And I

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<v Speaker 1>know we'll talk about the circumstances that led to him

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<v Speaker 1>being a Jayhawk, but he comes in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the summer before his true freshman year and winds up

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<v Speaker 1>starting all forty eight games as his collegiate career. Twice

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<v Speaker 1>over was an All Big Twelve lineman, including first team

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<v Speaker 1>all big twelve senior years. So he was the model

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<v Speaker 1>of consistency and just a really productive player that got

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<v Speaker 1>stronger as he grew into his body and added to

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<v Speaker 1>his frame, played through injuries a couple of times in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of his career for lengthy stretches, and yet

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<v Speaker 1>never came off the field. So you gotta love a

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<v Speaker 1>guy like that. He's gritty, he's tough, and he's a

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<v Speaker 1>really high character young man. It'll be a tremendous addition

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<v Speaker 1>to your franchise. If not for a Cashew allergy, he

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<v Speaker 1>would not have wound up at Kansas, Isn't that crazy? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he was supposed to go to air Force. His brother

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<v Speaker 1>had played at Air Force, and he was always planning

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<v Speaker 1>to follow in his brother's footsteps. And he shows up

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<v Speaker 1>on campus and in the medical reports there pops up

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<v Speaker 1>the allergy. And at a place like air Force, that's

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<v Speaker 1>enough to derail your acceptance. And so it's June of

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<v Speaker 1>the summertime to perceives his first semester as a college

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<v Speaker 1>student athlete, and thankfully for him, his Garland High school

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<v Speaker 1>and coach Jeff Jordan, had just taken the job for

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<v Speaker 1>another Garland graduate at the time, Kansas head coach David Beatty.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you know, one door closes, another opens, and

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<v Speaker 1>a Kim has a tremendous perspective on that. You never know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what curveball life's going to throw you in

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<v Speaker 1>some ways, this weekend was a curveball because I know

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<v Speaker 1>he really felt like he was going to go on

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth round. But he's been a guy that's always

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<v Speaker 1>accepted whatever cards he's dealt, and that makes the most

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<v Speaker 1>of them. In this case, he comes to Kansas and

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<v Speaker 1>as I said, within about six weeks he's won himself

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<v Speaker 1>a starting job and he never let lucifit his entire career.

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<v Speaker 1>Got to finish up playing his last season for Less Miles,

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<v Speaker 1>a future Hall of Famer and his own right, and

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<v Speaker 1>learned a lot from coach Miles former lineman himself, So

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<v Speaker 1>he had a chance to play for several guys he

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<v Speaker 1>never would have dreamed he would have played flore had

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<v Speaker 1>it not been for the Cashoe Ala Geet. But all

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<v Speaker 1>the while he felt like it was happening for a

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<v Speaker 1>reason and he was getting blessed by it. And here

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<v Speaker 1>he is now fulfilling his NFL dream. Because of it,

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<v Speaker 1>we're spending a few minutes with the voice of the

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas Jayhawks, Brian Haney. When Bengals offensive coordinator Brian Callahan

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<v Speaker 1>was asked about Hakim, the first thing that he spoke

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<v Speaker 1>of was his smarts. Did that stand out in your

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<v Speaker 1>interactions with him? Absolutely, very football savvy, a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>always on Tuesdays and we got to talk to the players,

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<v Speaker 1>you could always count on a great sound buy from

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<v Speaker 1>him because whether they'd only had a day or so

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<v Speaker 1>a film study, he'd already been watching in the weeks

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<v Speaker 1>leading up on that next opponent coming up. So he

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<v Speaker 1>always had a head for the scouting report in the

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<v Speaker 1>opposition coming up. And on top of that, he's just

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<v Speaker 1>a delightfully young guy to talk to. His mother is

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<v Speaker 1>from Nigeria and she was actually a broadcast TV star

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<v Speaker 1>back in Nigeria as a reporter, anchor journalists, and so

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<v Speaker 1>he's always been a very well spoken young man. And

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<v Speaker 1>when you're adding how much he studies the game and

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<v Speaker 1>how well prepared he is weeken and we got I

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<v Speaker 1>think you'll find him from a media perspective as one

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<v Speaker 1>of your favorites to talk to. It seems like in

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<v Speaker 1>this particular draft, if you are not a team captain,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals aren't interested. It's been one team captain after

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<v Speaker 1>the next. And that was the case for a team identity.

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<v Speaker 1>What traits stood out that his teammates would want him

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<v Speaker 1>in that role? Great question. And you know when you

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<v Speaker 1>think about his four years of Kansas, and I talked

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<v Speaker 1>earlier about no matter what the circumstances are, always finding

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<v Speaker 1>a positive adjust to move forward, starting with how he

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<v Speaker 1>arrived here to then the adversity of going through three

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<v Speaker 1>different offensive line coaches and two head coaches in his

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<v Speaker 1>time here. He was always the same consistent, eyes on

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<v Speaker 1>the prize, looking ahead as opposed to looking behind, and

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<v Speaker 1>all that type of mentality, and I think that's what

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<v Speaker 1>you needing a leader, a next playoff, next man up,

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of mindset, and he had that throughout and

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<v Speaker 1>no matter who was doing the coaching on the sidelines

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<v Speaker 1>or who the headman was atop the program, he adjusted.

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<v Speaker 1>And Akim was the same guy, bringing his lunch pail

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<v Speaker 1>to work every single day, same approach, same hard work,

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<v Speaker 1>a rock steady solid and I think that's what you

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<v Speaker 1>want from leaders. Obviously, he didn't obviously enjoy as much

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<v Speaker 1>winning here as we would like the last time, well

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<v Speaker 1>not the last time, I guess you guys took Tanner

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<v Speaker 1>Hockinson in twenty thirteen, but before that, when you took

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<v Speaker 1>a Kansas offensive lineman in two thousand and eight, Anthony Collins,

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<v Speaker 1>he'd just come off twelve wins and the Orange Bowl championship.

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<v Speaker 1>And Ke never got that. But he was the part

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<v Speaker 1>of some really big individual moments, like beating Texas as

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<v Speaker 1>a sophomore, first time k You've beaten ut in fifty years.

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<v Speaker 1>He helps k you beat Boston College on national TV

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<v Speaker 1>this year, beat Texas Tech. I think he's excited to

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<v Speaker 1>get in with the great franchise. It's clearly on the

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<v Speaker 1>rise now at Joe Burrow and Tiggins and all these guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and be a part of a young nucleus that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to do a whole lot more winning than what he

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<v Speaker 1>ever achieved on the collegiate gridiron. And because he's so consistent,

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<v Speaker 1>so well prepared, and so determined, I think he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to fit into that pedigree at DNA with the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of those guys like Burrow and Higgins. Thanks to Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Haney for that in depth look at Hakim Adenagee, the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengal seventh and final pick was another linebacker, Marcus Bailey,

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<v Speaker 1>who grew up in Columbus before his standout career at Purdue.

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<v Speaker 1>He was still available with a two hundred and fifteenth

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<v Speaker 1>pick in the draft due to knee problems. Marcus toward

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<v Speaker 1>the ACL and his left knee as a freshman, then

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<v Speaker 1>toward the ACL and his right knee early last season.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's a closer look at Marcus Bailey from Purdue radio

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<v Speaker 1>voice Tim Newton. Marcus Bailey is a really instinctive football player.

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<v Speaker 1>When he hits somebody, they usually go down. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>miss a lot of tackles. He's very good in open space,

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<v Speaker 1>going up against some of the best athletes in the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Ten one on one in the flat. He was

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<v Speaker 1>able to get guys to the turf with regularity. And

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<v Speaker 1>if he can stay healthy, I think the Bengals had

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<v Speaker 1>one of the steels of the draft. A Bengals coach

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<v Speaker 1>described him as a football junkie. Is that accurate? I

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<v Speaker 1>think it is. He would see him all the time

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<v Speaker 1>over in the football complex. You know he's a good student.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a three time academic All Big Ten. He

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<v Speaker 1>graduated early. In fact, was actually into his second year

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<v Speaker 1>of grad school starting the last season. So he's a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that is a student of the game. I think

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<v Speaker 1>again that matched with his instinctiveness on the football field,

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<v Speaker 1>has really made him a very productive player. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>a shame that his last season was cut short, just

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<v Speaker 1>as his first season was. But he's a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>football is very important to him. And I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>also a great leader, and that was shown by the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that his teammates voted him captain. We are visiting

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<v Speaker 1>with Purdue radio voice Tim Newton. When he suffered that

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<v Speaker 1>knee injury last year, second torn ACL of his Purdue career.

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<v Speaker 1>How devastating was that for the entire program. I think

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<v Speaker 1>of all the losses that Purdue had, and I've never

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<v Speaker 1>seen a team as ravaged last year by injury as

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<v Speaker 1>this team was. His was the biggest loss of all.

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<v Speaker 1>And it wasn't just the fact that he was probably

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<v Speaker 1>the best defensive player in terms of production, but he

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<v Speaker 1>was also the best leader. And I think that's really

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<v Speaker 1>where a lot of things went sideways in the season

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<v Speaker 1>last year for Purdue is after he got hurt, there

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't that guy that could bring everybody together in the huddle,

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<v Speaker 1>in the midst of battle and say Okay, let's settle down.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to do this, that or the other thing.

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<v Speaker 1>They really really suffered after he went out last season,

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<v Speaker 1>So it was a huge loss booth from what he

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<v Speaker 1>was able to do production wise, but also his leadership.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned him that you think he could turn out

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<v Speaker 1>to be a steal if he stays healthy. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>have any sense prior to his injury for how high

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<v Speaker 1>he might have been drafted. I think he had. I believe,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is talking to some people in both in

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<v Speaker 1>the scouting business and on the coaching staff. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he was a second or third round talent. I really

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<v Speaker 1>believe that, just again from his productivity and the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that he is good in space. He's an outstanding athlete,

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<v Speaker 1>and he played with a little bit of a chip

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<v Speaker 1>on his shoulder. He's a kid from Columbus that was

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<v Speaker 1>not recruited by his hometown team, and in twenty eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>he got a measure of revenge by taking an interception

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<v Speaker 1>in for a touchdown in the big win over Ohio State.

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<v Speaker 1>So he was a kid that was motivated from the

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<v Speaker 1>time he got on campus. But I think when he

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<v Speaker 1>was healthy he was easily one of the best five

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<v Speaker 1>linebackers in the conference. Mets saying a lot with some

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<v Speaker 1>of the talent we have at places like Ohio State, Michigan,

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<v Speaker 1>Penn State. But he was really a legitimate All Big

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<v Speaker 1>Ten player and I think was going to have a

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<v Speaker 1>great senior season. The Bengals have really struggled in recent

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<v Speaker 1>years to find linebackers with coverage ability. You mentioned his

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<v Speaker 1>pick six against the Buckeyes. He had six interceptions in

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<v Speaker 1>his career at Purdue. Is that a strength it is?

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's able to get out. I mentioned the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that he can get guys down in one on

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<v Speaker 1>one situations, but he's also going to be somebody that

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<v Speaker 1>will be able to cover running backs coming out of

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<v Speaker 1>the backfield. I think whether he had to pick up

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<v Speaker 1>a tight end or a running back, he'll be able

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<v Speaker 1>to play in space and he's able to cover a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of ground. He's a sidelined a sideline players. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's really again the whole package is the only

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<v Speaker 1>problem with him has been the knee injuries in keeping

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<v Speaker 1>him on the field and healthy. It happened early last year.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like the surgery went smoothly and everything's coming

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<v Speaker 1>along on schedule. Is he the type of guy that,

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<v Speaker 1>just based on his history, you would expect to make

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<v Speaker 1>a speed of recovery. Oh, I would think so. He did.

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<v Speaker 1>He recovered very well from the first surgery, and from

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<v Speaker 1>all indications we had, this one was going equally as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would expect by whenever training camp is that

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<v Speaker 1>he should be ready to go, and it will be

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<v Speaker 1>close to a full year by the time he gets

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<v Speaker 1>back on the field, if it's July or August. And

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<v Speaker 1>he suffered the injury in September, so he's had he

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<v Speaker 1>will have had the majority of the year by the

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<v Speaker 1>time he gets on the field. But he's been rehabbing

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<v Speaker 1>and I think he'll be ready to go physically. I

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<v Speaker 1>know he's ready to go mentally. Thanks to the Voice

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<v Speaker 1>of the boiler Makers, Tim Newton. Now time for a

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<v Speaker 1>Day three recap and an overall look at the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>draft class with my broadcast partner Dave Lapham. All right, Lap,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about the Day three draft picks and then

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get to an overview of the entire draft for

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals. Let's start in Round four with the first

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<v Speaker 1>pick of the fourth round. The Bengals drafted the guy

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<v Speaker 1>that you more or less predicted they would pick prior

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<v Speaker 1>to Day three of the draft, linebacker Akeem Davis Gaither.

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<v Speaker 1>They not only doubled down at linebacker in this draft,

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<v Speaker 1>three of their seven picks came from that position. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think you know they've they've done it before

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<v Speaker 1>about before the draft, back in the earliest part of

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<v Speaker 1>the century. They draft Tekioe Spikes, Brian Simmons, Steve Foley

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<v Speaker 1>three draft picks, and then they signed a free age

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<v Speaker 1>in Adrian Ross. While they draft three picks, they're at linebacker,

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<v Speaker 1>not as high, but they still address it. And then

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<v Speaker 1>they may sign another one in free agers who we

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. The common denominator in the overhaul of those

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<v Speaker 1>two different occasions Mark Duffner. So, Mark duft had had

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<v Speaker 1>a big thing in evaluating the linebacker talent in both

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<v Speaker 1>of those instances and and maybe rebuilding the linebacker group.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that these guys individually have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of a lot of pride, and I think the game

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<v Speaker 1>of football means a ton to them, and I think collectively,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they'd like to be the three musketeers that

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<v Speaker 1>turn the franchise around at the linebacker position. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they'd relish the fact that you know, they could wave

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<v Speaker 1>the flag, that they're the guys that solidified the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the Cincinnati Bengals defense was used and had so

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<v Speaker 1>many problems with miss tackles and mister Simons and everything else.

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<v Speaker 1>I see all three of those guys, you know, wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to make make that different for sure. And a Keen

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<v Speaker 1>Davis Gaitheror is a captain son of a football coach.

0:24:16.080 --> 0:24:19.520
<v Speaker 1>And when you when you have sons of football coaches,

0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:22.520
<v Speaker 1>that means that they have a support system. You know,

0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:25.880
<v Speaker 1>they've grown up around the game. The entire family, wife

0:24:25.920 --> 0:24:29.960
<v Speaker 1>and other siblings understand how important the game is, and

0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:33.880
<v Speaker 1>it gives it gives them an additional opportunity to succeed.

0:24:34.080 --> 0:24:37.480
<v Speaker 1>A tremendous support system, and I think, uh, I think

0:24:37.480 --> 0:24:40.159
<v Speaker 1>that's going to pay dividends for the Bengals. You saw

0:24:40.200 --> 0:24:43.040
<v Speaker 1>a Keen Davis Gaitheror at the Senior Bowl. The Bengals

0:24:43.040 --> 0:24:46.320
<v Speaker 1>coaching staff obviously got to know him there. He was

0:24:46.359 --> 0:24:49.399
<v Speaker 1>the Sun Belt Defensive Player of the Year at Appalachian State.

0:24:50.080 --> 0:24:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Draft expert Dane Bruegler from The Athletic had him number

0:24:53.960 --> 0:24:57.119
<v Speaker 1>fifty four overall on his board. The Bengals got him

0:24:57.119 --> 0:24:59.920
<v Speaker 1>with a one hundred and seventh pick, so that's all good.

0:25:00.440 --> 0:25:02.919
<v Speaker 1>The question mark with him seems to be is he

0:25:03.040 --> 0:25:07.520
<v Speaker 1>big enough right? And and because it's fast enough, I mean,

0:25:07.520 --> 0:25:10.080
<v Speaker 1>you know he runs four or five and that that's

0:25:10.080 --> 0:25:12.480
<v Speaker 1>going to be the thing um when he's on the

0:25:12.480 --> 0:25:16.400
<v Speaker 1>football field, particularly in the AFC North I Buy formation.

0:25:16.440 --> 0:25:19.480
<v Speaker 1>They're going to probably try to target him in an area,

0:25:19.600 --> 0:25:21.840
<v Speaker 1>try to locate him on an area of the football

0:25:21.880 --> 0:25:24.200
<v Speaker 1>field where they're going to test his ability to get

0:25:24.200 --> 0:25:27.000
<v Speaker 1>off blocks and stop the run. You know, I think

0:25:27.080 --> 0:25:30.440
<v Speaker 1>they everybody's going to understand that a guy that size

0:25:30.480 --> 0:25:33.200
<v Speaker 1>and that kind of speed, you know, will operate well

0:25:33.240 --> 0:25:36.119
<v Speaker 1>in space. But can can you muscle up? You know,

0:25:36.200 --> 0:25:39.000
<v Speaker 1>can when when you come in there with a couple

0:25:39.000 --> 0:25:41.159
<v Speaker 1>of a couple of tightens and you know, when they

0:25:41.160 --> 0:25:43.600
<v Speaker 1>sub times like that, you may be subbed out of

0:25:43.600 --> 0:25:47.199
<v Speaker 1>the football game. But if if they decide to reduce

0:25:47.520 --> 0:25:50.920
<v Speaker 1>the formation and play smash ball football between the hash

0:25:50.960 --> 0:25:54.399
<v Speaker 1>marks and get him in tight in a home booth

0:25:54.440 --> 0:25:56.840
<v Speaker 1>as such, can he operated his way out of that

0:25:56.840 --> 0:25:59.760
<v Speaker 1>phone booth? And that's that's going to be the test

0:25:59.800 --> 0:26:02.800
<v Speaker 1>for all these young linebackers because some of these, uh,

0:26:02.960 --> 0:26:05.480
<v Speaker 1>some of these guys in the offensive lines with the

0:26:05.520 --> 0:26:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Baltimore Ravens and Pittsburgh Steels in Cleveland Browns, I mean,

0:26:09.440 --> 0:26:13.159
<v Speaker 1>they're they these college kids that are coming in they

0:26:13.200 --> 0:26:15.800
<v Speaker 1>have seen one or two of those guys during the

0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:18.160
<v Speaker 1>course of the season. Now they're going to see five

0:26:18.160 --> 0:26:21.960
<v Speaker 1>of those guys every single week of their professional career.

0:26:22.400 --> 0:26:26.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing that special teams coordinator Darren Simmons loves this

0:26:26.640 --> 0:26:30.320
<v Speaker 1>pick a tea. Yeah, Kam Davis Gaither played special teams

0:26:30.359 --> 0:26:33.639
<v Speaker 1>at Appalachian State. He was the teams special teams Player

0:26:33.640 --> 0:26:36.320
<v Speaker 1>of the Year early in his career. He had a

0:26:36.359 --> 0:26:40.159
<v Speaker 1>game saving block field goal last year against North Carolina.

0:26:40.280 --> 0:26:42.240
<v Speaker 1>So this is not something that he is going to

0:26:42.320 --> 0:26:45.240
<v Speaker 1>have to embrace at the NFL level. It's something he's

0:26:45.240 --> 0:26:49.200
<v Speaker 1>been doing absolutely, Dan, And you look at you look

0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:52.280
<v Speaker 1>at all the picks h you know at the linebacker position.

0:26:52.760 --> 0:26:56.920
<v Speaker 1>You know they're being termed as potentially as three down linebackers.

0:26:57.320 --> 0:26:59.119
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I'm not sure that that's going to

0:26:59.200 --> 0:27:01.880
<v Speaker 1>be the case for all of them, miss rookies. So

0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:05.080
<v Speaker 1>at some point in time, I'm sure Logan Wilson will

0:27:05.080 --> 0:27:08.480
<v Speaker 1>get some taste of special teams. The keen Davis Gaither

0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:11.879
<v Speaker 1>will as well, and Marcus Bailey is the third linebacker

0:27:11.960 --> 0:27:15.960
<v Speaker 1>that they drafted. At the end of the day, all

0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:18.480
<v Speaker 1>of them have tasted the special teams, particularly early in

0:27:18.480 --> 0:27:22.240
<v Speaker 1>their career. Like you said, as they turned into stalwarts

0:27:22.240 --> 0:27:24.560
<v Speaker 1>on the defensive side of the football, you know that

0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:28.360
<v Speaker 1>that minimalizes the special team snaps. But these guys were

0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:30.679
<v Speaker 1>all smart. That's a common denominator two with all the

0:27:30.760 --> 0:27:33.640
<v Speaker 1>picks to in and they're all captains, they're all smart,

0:27:33.920 --> 0:27:36.719
<v Speaker 1>they're all sons of coaches. I mean, it's crazy. I

0:27:36.800 --> 0:27:39.760
<v Speaker 1>think that they they're going to understand very quickly, and

0:27:40.040 --> 0:27:42.480
<v Speaker 1>Darren Simmons will make a point of them understanding it

0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:45.600
<v Speaker 1>very quickly that their future is going to be determined

0:27:45.880 --> 0:27:48.200
<v Speaker 1>in the short term by what they do. For Darren Simmons.

0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:50.639
<v Speaker 1>Let's move to the fifth round. The Bengals selected a

0:27:50.720 --> 0:27:54.560
<v Speaker 1>defensive end out of Notre Dame Khalid Kareem six four,

0:27:54.760 --> 0:27:58.240
<v Speaker 1>two hundred and sixty eight pounds, another college captain. The

0:27:58.320 --> 0:28:02.640
<v Speaker 1>description I got on him was solid, if unspectacular. Had

0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:05.440
<v Speaker 1>five and a half sacks this year, forced three fumbles,

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:10.040
<v Speaker 1>and apparently has gigantic arms. Yeah, he's got a huge

0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:13.560
<v Speaker 1>wingspan eighty four inch wingspan, thirty four and a half

0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:17.119
<v Speaker 1>inch length in the arms, big hands, So that that

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:19.639
<v Speaker 1>tells you though, he should be able to control people

0:28:19.960 --> 0:28:22.119
<v Speaker 1>and keep people you know, away from him, out of

0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:24.679
<v Speaker 1>his out of his body as such. And you know

0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:28.240
<v Speaker 1>all these guys too, they have position versatility. You know,

0:28:28.320 --> 0:28:30.679
<v Speaker 1>he might give him some snaps. A defensive end might

0:28:30.680 --> 0:28:33.760
<v Speaker 1>give him some snaps outside linebacker, could be a sub

0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:36.159
<v Speaker 1>package edge rush guy because he could you know, they

0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:38.480
<v Speaker 1>could drop him off into coverage. And you know what

0:28:38.520 --> 0:28:41.120
<v Speaker 1>they've done with Sam Hubbard, I think this guy might

0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:44.000
<v Speaker 1>be capable of doing as well. And you know another

0:28:44.080 --> 0:28:47.280
<v Speaker 1>kid that a captain of his football team, and um,

0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:49.560
<v Speaker 1>you know the culture that they're building I think is

0:28:49.720 --> 0:28:53.880
<v Speaker 1>uh is very very interesting. You know. It's another one

0:28:53.920 --> 0:28:58.360
<v Speaker 1>that that was he was scheduled to play in the

0:28:58.400 --> 0:29:01.479
<v Speaker 1>Senior Bowl. He couldn't because of venue. But you know,

0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:06.080
<v Speaker 1>he's obviously he's obviously got some some talents in coming

0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:08.520
<v Speaker 1>out and Notre Dame. We know what Brian Kelly is

0:29:08.560 --> 0:29:10.840
<v Speaker 1>all about. We know the program that Frian Kelly runs,

0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:13.560
<v Speaker 1>so we know that this kid is the real deal.

0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:16.040
<v Speaker 1>In terms of being, you know, not only a good

0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:19.040
<v Speaker 1>football player, but a solid citizen in every way, shape

0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:22.120
<v Speaker 1>or form. To the sixth round, where the Bengal selected

0:29:22.120 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 1>an offensive lineman, Hakim Identagy. He played tackle at Kansas.

0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:29.400
<v Speaker 1>Apparently the Bengals look at him as a guy who

0:29:29.440 --> 0:29:32.440
<v Speaker 1>could play guard as well in the NFL. And of

0:29:32.520 --> 0:29:34.520
<v Speaker 1>all the Bengals draft picks, he's the one who has

0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:37.440
<v Speaker 1>the most interesting backstory. He was going to go to

0:29:37.520 --> 0:29:40.360
<v Speaker 1>Air Force and then shortly before he was ready to

0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:43.640
<v Speaker 1>go from high school to college, Air Force said, nope,

0:29:43.640 --> 0:29:46.480
<v Speaker 1>you can no longer be admitted because of a cash

0:29:46.560 --> 0:29:51.480
<v Speaker 1>you allergy man. How bad would you feel as the

0:29:51.520 --> 0:29:54.240
<v Speaker 1>coach that recruited him. Everything's hunky door, it's all set

0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:58.040
<v Speaker 1>to go, and cash you allergy nullifies the whole thing.

0:29:58.600 --> 0:30:01.040
<v Speaker 1>And that dad had to be a interesting, dynamic beau.

0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:03.240
<v Speaker 1>His brother was already at Air Force and already gone

0:30:03.240 --> 0:30:05.800
<v Speaker 1>to Air Force. That tells you a lot about that family.

0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:09.160
<v Speaker 1>When when you're talking to military academies, I mean, you know,

0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:11.960
<v Speaker 1>I remember what it was. I get recruited by Army

0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:13.880
<v Speaker 1>and Navy and and you have to get you know,

0:30:14.600 --> 0:30:17.480
<v Speaker 1>your local center at Cenator Ted Kennedy wrote a letter

0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:20.200
<v Speaker 1>of recommendation Army Navy for me. He said, I know

0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:22.520
<v Speaker 1>the process you have to go through and for these

0:30:22.760 --> 0:30:25.800
<v Speaker 1>these guys to get accepted the Air Force tells you

0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:28.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot about the type of person there. And another

0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:31.720
<v Speaker 1>there's another case of a guy that's got some intal act,

0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:33.520
<v Speaker 1>you know. I mean, there's there's no doubt about it.

0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:36.240
<v Speaker 1>These guys took the book seriously, not just the football

0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:38.480
<v Speaker 1>field or the basketball court or whatever the case may be.

0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:42.840
<v Speaker 1>They they they're true student athletes. And you know, thing

0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:45.720
<v Speaker 1>about this guy is when you look at his game,

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:50.080
<v Speaker 1>he's explosive, he's sudden, he's got really good feet. I

0:30:50.120 --> 0:30:52.320
<v Speaker 1>think he's got some big upside. I really do. I

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:56.040
<v Speaker 1>think that. Initially, you know, he played more left tackle

0:30:56.120 --> 0:30:58.640
<v Speaker 1>than right tackle. But if I'm doing a depth chart

0:30:58.760 --> 0:31:02.080
<v Speaker 1>for the season, I have him in their competition over

0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:05.280
<v Speaker 1>there at the right tackle spot to see who's the

0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:08.680
<v Speaker 1>better man. You know, Bobby Hart is Fred Johns? Is

0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:12.240
<v Speaker 1>Fred the better man? Is it? Is it this rookie?

0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:15.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'd make that a very competitive scenario over

0:31:15.760 --> 0:31:19.000
<v Speaker 1>there at the right tackle position. Then move from there accordingly.

0:31:19.320 --> 0:31:21.840
<v Speaker 1>It's a lot easier, you know, he was supposed to

0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:24.840
<v Speaker 1>bounce in. You know, he didn't put part in the

0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:27.080
<v Speaker 1>in the Senior Bowl. And this is one of the

0:31:27.080 --> 0:31:31.080
<v Speaker 1>three Senior Bowl people that the Bengals drafted. Um, and

0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:35.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, he did it willingly. And I think initially

0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:36.680
<v Speaker 1>they're going to take a look at him at tackle,

0:31:36.760 --> 0:31:39.920
<v Speaker 1>but hey, if you can play tackle, I'm telling you,

0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:42.400
<v Speaker 1>it's much easier to kick inside and play guard. Usually

0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:45.480
<v Speaker 1>pretty remarkable. When he accomplished at Kansas, he gets the

0:31:45.560 --> 0:31:47.560
<v Speaker 1>late word from Air Force that he can't go there

0:31:47.560 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 1>because of the cashew allergy. So he winds up at

0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Kansas at the last minute, shows up for fall practice,

0:31:53.920 --> 0:31:58.680
<v Speaker 1>wins the starting job, and starts forty eight consecutive games. Yeah,

0:31:58.720 --> 0:32:01.280
<v Speaker 1>that's that's the other thing. A lot these guys are,

0:32:01.400 --> 0:32:06.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, four year players, red shirt guys. Everybody they

0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:11.000
<v Speaker 1>drafted has played a lot of football, except when injury

0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:15.400
<v Speaker 1>unfortunately interrupted you know, their respective careers. In some cases,

0:32:15.840 --> 0:32:18.960
<v Speaker 1>they played a lot of football, prospected by their teammates,

0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:22.640
<v Speaker 1>voted captain, handled the academic part of it. You know,

0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:28.200
<v Speaker 1>it's it really is. I mean, my numbers say three

0:32:28.360 --> 0:32:31.360
<v Speaker 1>three Senior Bowl participants. Senior Bowls certainly paid off for

0:32:31.440 --> 0:32:34.040
<v Speaker 1>the Cincinnati Bengals. In this draft, five of the seven

0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:37.040
<v Speaker 1>draft picks are captains. Three of the seven draft picks

0:32:37.080 --> 0:32:40.320
<v Speaker 1>are coaches sons. I mean, my goodness, you know, it's

0:32:40.400 --> 0:32:44.080
<v Speaker 1>it's uh. I think I'm not sure if they had

0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:47.320
<v Speaker 1>the FBI IA. I don't know how many people investigated

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:49.600
<v Speaker 1>the character of their players, but well, they did a

0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:52.920
<v Speaker 1>good job of screening them and getting guys that in

0:32:53.000 --> 0:32:57.240
<v Speaker 1>most cases came from very very successful, winning programs as well.

0:32:57.560 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 1>And the same thing happened in free agency again. I mean,

0:32:59.880 --> 0:33:01.280
<v Speaker 1>you know what they did in free it to see,

0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:03.880
<v Speaker 1>it's like everybody was on a playoff team. So it's

0:33:04.160 --> 0:33:08.520
<v Speaker 1>it's there's there's some common denominators that flowed through all

0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:13.440
<v Speaker 1>these selections, including Hakim. The Bengals final pick was linebacker

0:33:13.520 --> 0:33:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Marcus Bailey out of Purdue, And this reminds me of

0:33:16.520 --> 0:33:19.720
<v Speaker 1>the Rodney Anderson selection last year, and that you take

0:33:19.840 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 1>a late draft chance on a guy with an injury

0:33:23.080 --> 0:33:27.520
<v Speaker 1>history who was extremely productive when he wasn't hurt. He

0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:29.760
<v Speaker 1>only played in a couple of games last year. He

0:33:29.800 --> 0:33:32.880
<v Speaker 1>missed the last ten with a torn right ACL. Early

0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:36.240
<v Speaker 1>in his college career, he tore his left ACL but

0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:39.400
<v Speaker 1>in between he was one of the most productive linebackers

0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:43.240
<v Speaker 1>in the Big Ten. Yeah, and when you hear that,

0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:47.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean he's a football junkie as such, he's always

0:33:47.320 --> 0:33:49.840
<v Speaker 1>at the facility. You know, you can only spend so

0:33:49.920 --> 0:33:54.080
<v Speaker 1>many hours with a player by hen rules X number

0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:56.200
<v Speaker 1>of hours per week. But that doesn't mean that the

0:33:56.240 --> 0:33:59.440
<v Speaker 1>player can't go in there on their own and breakdown

0:33:59.440 --> 0:34:01.080
<v Speaker 1>tape and do a everything they want to do in

0:34:01.120 --> 0:34:03.360
<v Speaker 1>that regard to improve themselves as football players. And that

0:34:03.560 --> 0:34:06.360
<v Speaker 1>was Marcus Bailey and the coaches basically had to kick

0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:09.080
<v Speaker 1>him out of the place. That tells you that you

0:34:09.200 --> 0:34:13.000
<v Speaker 1>got a guy that the game is significantly important to him.

0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:16.200
<v Speaker 1>He can't he's got a thirst for knowledge. You know.

0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:19.000
<v Speaker 1>He started throwing names out there like Luke Keigley, Bobby

0:34:19.040 --> 0:34:22.640
<v Speaker 1>Wagner that you know, he felt like had had a

0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:26.920
<v Speaker 1>tremendous football IQ that could never be satisfied and another

0:34:26.960 --> 0:34:29.759
<v Speaker 1>good student, you know, three point five GPA. He's got

0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:33.080
<v Speaker 1>his masters and leadership and said that's pretty good. I mean,

0:34:33.080 --> 0:34:36.440
<v Speaker 1>he said, there's going to be a Kansas at FORDU

0:34:36.520 --> 0:34:38.960
<v Speaker 1>for five years. Why not get a master's degree out

0:34:39.000 --> 0:34:41.840
<v Speaker 1>of it? And that's somebody that's got some maturity to

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:45.080
<v Speaker 1>him instead of you know, worrying about where your next

0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:47.520
<v Speaker 1>beer is coming from on campus in the party, you know,

0:34:47.600 --> 0:34:49.440
<v Speaker 1>he wants to balance it out and make sure that

0:34:49.440 --> 0:34:52.080
<v Speaker 1>he's got his academics taken care of him. Another guy

0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:55.000
<v Speaker 1>that gives a lot of position versatility. He can play

0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:58.279
<v Speaker 1>well in space. You know, he can cover people, he

0:34:58.320 --> 0:35:02.919
<v Speaker 1>can blitz. So I they've they've got themselves some chess

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:06.400
<v Speaker 1>pieces to play with at this linebacker position, with smart

0:35:06.440 --> 0:35:09.560
<v Speaker 1>guys that you don't necessarily have to sub in and

0:35:09.640 --> 0:35:12.880
<v Speaker 1>out of there. You know, when when the offense make

0:35:12.960 --> 0:35:18.120
<v Speaker 1>substitutions and personnel formation wise, you're you're allowed to. But

0:35:18.320 --> 0:35:21.440
<v Speaker 1>if the offense has versatility and they flex tight ends

0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:23.280
<v Speaker 1>or whatever the case may be, and they don't allow

0:35:23.360 --> 0:35:26.120
<v Speaker 1>you to sub personnel, you get linebackers they can walk

0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:28.920
<v Speaker 1>out there with those tight ends. In some cases, uh

0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:32.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe you know we'll even cover a slot receiver.

0:35:32.600 --> 0:35:34.239
<v Speaker 1>You know, at a pension, when you have those kind

0:35:34.280 --> 0:35:37.640
<v Speaker 1>of athletes, it gives you usually your heck of a counter.

0:35:37.719 --> 0:35:39.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, now you're in a great testpense. There's no

0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:44.200
<v Speaker 1>question about it. All right. A few big picture topics

0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:46.879
<v Speaker 1>now that the draft is finished for the Bengals. We've

0:35:46.880 --> 0:35:49.120
<v Speaker 1>talked about the fact that a lot of these guys

0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:53.440
<v Speaker 1>were captains. Six of the seven draft picks were college captains.

0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:57.680
<v Speaker 1>Logan Wilson three time captain, Marcus Bailey two time captain,

0:35:57.800 --> 0:36:01.160
<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow two time captains. I joked on Twitter the

0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:05.840
<v Speaker 1>only captains the Bengals didn't draft were Hook, Kangaroo, Morgan

0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:10.640
<v Speaker 1>and Crunch. I like it, but Zach Taylor made a

0:36:10.680 --> 0:36:14.440
<v Speaker 1>point of saying, it's great that they're captains. That says

0:36:14.480 --> 0:36:17.720
<v Speaker 1>something about them. But we didn't just draft good guys.

0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:22.760
<v Speaker 1>They were all extremely talented players and the captain aspect

0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:26.399
<v Speaker 1>is a nice bonus, right, And I think I think

0:36:27.440 --> 0:36:31.120
<v Speaker 1>you know the concept of all right, when you're a captain,

0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:33.880
<v Speaker 1>one of the things that you have to do is

0:36:33.960 --> 0:36:37.240
<v Speaker 1>make sure that you're setting a standard where don't accept

0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:40.600
<v Speaker 1>anything but the best effort out of individual players. And

0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:43.600
<v Speaker 1>then of course it accumulates to be a team thing

0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:47.160
<v Speaker 1>and you have to set the standard. And that's why

0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:51.200
<v Speaker 1>in my mind, you know, great players, um, you know,

0:36:51.239 --> 0:36:54.279
<v Speaker 1>like Anthony Munio's, James Brooks, you know, pick some of

0:36:54.320 --> 0:36:57.760
<v Speaker 1>the great players in Bengal franchise history. Their work ethic

0:36:58.560 --> 0:37:02.799
<v Speaker 1>was to suck that man. Those guys they're always in

0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:05.200
<v Speaker 1>the Pro Bowl every year and look what they're doing.

0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Am I doing enough? And that's that's a good thing

0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:10.800
<v Speaker 1>to have telling you when you're when your best players.

0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:13.719
<v Speaker 1>And that's sort of a professional approach to it. The

0:37:13.840 --> 0:37:16.880
<v Speaker 1>mentality where I'm going to be the best and no

0:37:16.920 --> 0:37:18.560
<v Speaker 1>one's going to stop me from being the best. It

0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:22.480
<v Speaker 1>raises the whole boat. You know. Tom Brady is in there,

0:37:22.640 --> 0:37:24.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, bright and early, first one in, last to leave,

0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:28.640
<v Speaker 1>and he's not wasted time. He's efficiently getting himself better,

0:37:28.920 --> 0:37:31.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, day after day, week after week, month after month,

0:37:31.680 --> 0:37:35.520
<v Speaker 1>year after year. Now now he cames into it. It's crazy.

0:37:35.760 --> 0:37:39.080
<v Speaker 1>And if you can find guys that have that type

0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:42.719
<v Speaker 1>of mentality, that type of mindset, you know, instead of

0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:45.960
<v Speaker 1>the coaches having to force you to do it, if

0:37:46.000 --> 0:37:48.719
<v Speaker 1>the players are saying, hey, follow my lead, do what

0:37:48.800 --> 0:37:51.920
<v Speaker 1>I do, and it's a positive example. Now you've got

0:37:51.960 --> 0:37:55.760
<v Speaker 1>something cooking. If the players can can set the standard

0:37:55.800 --> 0:37:59.120
<v Speaker 1>of that, police themselves if somebody stray, as the players

0:37:59.200 --> 0:38:01.520
<v Speaker 1>take care of it. That's the good teams that I

0:38:01.600 --> 0:38:05.640
<v Speaker 1>played on or played with. We never waited for coaches

0:38:05.640 --> 0:38:09.880
<v Speaker 1>to discipline or correct or whatever. Man took care of ourselves,

0:38:10.000 --> 0:38:12.759
<v Speaker 1>took care of ourselves. It's like, you, dude, we got

0:38:12.800 --> 0:38:15.759
<v Speaker 1>something good going on here. Don't screw this up. You

0:38:15.800 --> 0:38:18.200
<v Speaker 1>know you don't want to be part of this. There's

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:20.320
<v Speaker 1>the door, don't body hit you in the buttter on

0:38:20.400 --> 0:38:25.240
<v Speaker 1>your way out. And when the players are believing that

0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:28.400
<v Speaker 1>that kind of mentality and self policing it, now you

0:38:28.480 --> 0:38:32.640
<v Speaker 1>get something powerful. The biggest surprise to me is that

0:38:32.680 --> 0:38:36.520
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals never traded down for more picks. I would

0:38:36.520 --> 0:38:40.520
<v Speaker 1>have guaranteed going into this draft that at some point

0:38:40.960 --> 0:38:43.160
<v Speaker 1>they're going to trade down a few spots to get

0:38:43.200 --> 0:38:47.480
<v Speaker 1>more picks. And when they reached their their spot in

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:50.879
<v Speaker 1>every round, either they liked the guy that was there

0:38:51.000 --> 0:38:53.400
<v Speaker 1>so much that they weren't willing to go down, or

0:38:53.520 --> 0:38:55.759
<v Speaker 1>no team really made a good enough offer for them

0:38:55.760 --> 0:38:59.160
<v Speaker 1>to do it. Yeah. Right, And I think I think

0:38:59.200 --> 0:39:01.960
<v Speaker 1>the overlooked to the draft had a play in that.

0:39:02.560 --> 0:39:05.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's like, okay, and I'm sure not only

0:39:05.560 --> 0:39:09.080
<v Speaker 1>did the Bengals just wait for people to call be proactive,

0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:11.480
<v Speaker 1>aren't reactive? I think they probably picked the phones up

0:39:11.520 --> 0:39:14.959
<v Speaker 1>and targeted some people and tried to see if they

0:39:15.200 --> 0:39:19.319
<v Speaker 1>could work work something out. But if if, whoever it is,

0:39:20.640 --> 0:39:23.160
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to get them to move up, and they're

0:39:23.200 --> 0:39:25.560
<v Speaker 1>looking at their board just like you are and their song.

0:39:27.080 --> 0:39:29.560
<v Speaker 1>I got three or four guys here I'm comfortable with,

0:39:29.840 --> 0:39:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Why should I give you draft capital to move up

0:39:32.440 --> 0:39:34.560
<v Speaker 1>to take them when I can sit and still get

0:39:34.600 --> 0:39:36.560
<v Speaker 1>one of them. And that's what the Bengals are trying

0:39:36.600 --> 0:39:40.000
<v Speaker 1>to do, is you know, move back and accumulate capital

0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:42.360
<v Speaker 1>and still be satisfied with one of them. So it

0:39:42.760 --> 0:39:45.520
<v Speaker 1>just there was never anybody that I guess slid to

0:39:45.560 --> 0:39:47.680
<v Speaker 1>the point where, oh my gosh, we had this guy

0:39:48.160 --> 0:39:51.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, evaluated a full round better through where he

0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:53.920
<v Speaker 1>is now. So maybe the overall depth of the draft

0:39:54.080 --> 0:39:57.560
<v Speaker 1>was a you know, was a factor in that. But

0:39:57.719 --> 0:40:00.880
<v Speaker 1>being the first band out of the gate, know, every round,

0:40:01.360 --> 0:40:05.520
<v Speaker 1>let's go, every player they picked, they had evaluated a

0:40:05.600 --> 0:40:07.520
<v Speaker 1>round higher because they had the first pick of the

0:40:07.560 --> 0:40:11.080
<v Speaker 1>following round. So it's easy to say, oh, we had

0:40:11.080 --> 0:40:12.920
<v Speaker 1>a humor waters a third round value you took up

0:40:12.920 --> 0:40:15.240
<v Speaker 1>in the first pick in the fourth round. It's basically

0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:18.520
<v Speaker 1>a third round draft pick. But you know, in some instances,

0:40:18.800 --> 0:40:22.200
<v Speaker 1>I know they had guys you know away up in

0:40:22.239 --> 0:40:24.120
<v Speaker 1>that round and maybe even at the end of the

0:40:24.200 --> 0:40:27.359
<v Speaker 1>round before that. And like we talked about before, Dan,

0:40:27.960 --> 0:40:32.080
<v Speaker 1>everybody's board is said differently because you know people it's

0:40:32.360 --> 0:40:35.640
<v Speaker 1>it's it almost gets humorous to me, and because like

0:40:35.800 --> 0:40:39.120
<v Speaker 1>Zach said, okay, do you draft for need or do

0:40:39.160 --> 0:40:41.359
<v Speaker 1>your draft for best player? And he said, well, it's

0:40:41.360 --> 0:40:44.839
<v Speaker 1>always a combination. And that's why every team's draft board

0:40:44.960 --> 0:40:48.080
<v Speaker 1>is different. Every team has different needs. So when you're

0:40:48.080 --> 0:40:53.080
<v Speaker 1>evaluating a player, it's like, yeah, boy, this this offensive

0:40:53.120 --> 0:40:55.880
<v Speaker 1>tackle is good, and so is this cornerback. But we

0:40:55.920 --> 0:40:58.279
<v Speaker 1>have a much bigger needed offensive tackles. He's going to

0:40:58.280 --> 0:41:00.920
<v Speaker 1>go up higher on our board than the back. So

0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:03.360
<v Speaker 1>that's why everybody's board is different. You know, when you

0:41:03.400 --> 0:41:06.439
<v Speaker 1>set your board, you've already kind of you know, had

0:41:06.440 --> 0:41:11.439
<v Speaker 1>a blend of need and in best player available. So

0:41:11.520 --> 0:41:13.640
<v Speaker 1>that's why it kind of tickles me where oh man,

0:41:13.680 --> 0:41:16.560
<v Speaker 1>we had this guy evaluated, you know, so much higher,

0:41:16.840 --> 0:41:20.600
<v Speaker 1>and the other team be like, what, yeah, I wasn't

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:22.319
<v Speaker 1>that that guy up. I didn't have them that high

0:41:22.360 --> 0:41:25.120
<v Speaker 1>at all. I had totally different needs. You're running totally

0:41:25.200 --> 0:41:28.440
<v Speaker 1>different systems. Um, you know you have to you have

0:41:28.560 --> 0:41:32.240
<v Speaker 1>to basically draft football players that that fit your system.

0:41:32.680 --> 0:41:35.239
<v Speaker 1>It's crazy the draft football players and say, oh, just

0:41:35.239 --> 0:41:37.520
<v Speaker 1>because of this one guy, we're going to change what

0:41:37.600 --> 0:41:40.839
<v Speaker 1>we do from the philosophical standpoint now. So you know,

0:41:40.880 --> 0:41:43.280
<v Speaker 1>you set what you're gonna do and try to draft

0:41:43.280 --> 0:41:46.200
<v Speaker 1>players that fit it. And that's why everybody's board's different.

0:41:47.360 --> 0:41:49.600
<v Speaker 1>What do you make of the fact that they only

0:41:49.640 --> 0:41:53.160
<v Speaker 1>selected one offensive lineman and they didn't choose him until

0:41:53.239 --> 0:41:57.120
<v Speaker 1>round six. Yeah, Like, like we talked about earlier, I

0:41:57.120 --> 0:42:00.120
<v Speaker 1>think they're you know, they're feeling that they've made some

0:42:00.200 --> 0:42:03.160
<v Speaker 1>improvements there. You know, I think that, Uh, I do

0:42:03.280 --> 0:42:06.480
<v Speaker 1>think that the right tackle is going to be a

0:42:06.520 --> 0:42:10.320
<v Speaker 1>free for all. Bobby Hart, you know, Fred Johnson obviously

0:42:10.400 --> 0:42:12.800
<v Speaker 1>is going to be going to be in the mix,

0:42:13.320 --> 0:42:16.160
<v Speaker 1>and uh and so will the Keen. There's no there's

0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:19.960
<v Speaker 1>no doubt about it. Um. So you know that that

0:42:20.080 --> 0:42:23.600
<v Speaker 1>that'll be just at the right tackle position, right guard,

0:42:24.120 --> 0:42:27.319
<v Speaker 1>Xavier and Alex will be you know, competing, Uh, Sue

0:42:27.360 --> 0:42:30.520
<v Speaker 1>Flow and Alex Redmond will be competing. And you know,

0:42:30.719 --> 0:42:34.920
<v Speaker 1>Medie if if it works out where a team it

0:42:35.000 --> 0:42:38.000
<v Speaker 1>doesn't doesn't in the mix real strongly attack. He could

0:42:38.080 --> 0:42:41.480
<v Speaker 1>kick inside the guard. Um, you know, Trey Hopkins has

0:42:41.560 --> 0:42:44.880
<v Speaker 1>Billy Price, and Billy Price can you know play both guards,

0:42:44.880 --> 0:42:48.640
<v Speaker 1>So he gives you some depth the all three interior positions.

0:42:48.680 --> 0:42:52.280
<v Speaker 1>Michael Jordan came on. I thought Michael Jordan drew a lot.

0:42:52.880 --> 0:42:55.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Michael Jordan. He met his match in Pittsburgh

0:42:55.680 --> 0:42:59.040
<v Speaker 1>with Cameron Heyward Man. I was a man against a

0:42:59.120 --> 0:43:02.400
<v Speaker 1>boy that day. But Michael Jordan grew. He went the

0:43:02.400 --> 0:43:04.160
<v Speaker 1>boy at the end of the season. There's no doubt

0:43:04.200 --> 0:43:07.319
<v Speaker 1>about that that he had a baptism under fire and

0:43:07.400 --> 0:43:10.040
<v Speaker 1>he got torched pretty good. But he didn't curl up

0:43:10.040 --> 0:43:12.359
<v Speaker 1>in his fetal position and cry about it, which I

0:43:12.400 --> 0:43:14.759
<v Speaker 1>respected the hell out of them. He came back and

0:43:14.800 --> 0:43:16.880
<v Speaker 1>played some pretty good football in the second half of

0:43:16.920 --> 0:43:20.320
<v Speaker 1>the season. Um, Jonah Warren's gonna be interesting to see,

0:43:20.800 --> 0:43:22.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, see what he gives. Damn you know what

0:43:22.400 --> 0:43:24.799
<v Speaker 1>he's capable of. I mean, obviously how they regarded the

0:43:24.800 --> 0:43:28.640
<v Speaker 1>eleventh take in the draft. Um, and and that's that's right.

0:43:29.280 --> 0:43:33.319
<v Speaker 1>Teams played mostly left tackle, So worst case scenario, he's

0:43:33.360 --> 0:43:36.200
<v Speaker 1>got a swing tackle in the team. I say, your prance,

0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:39.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's it's different and better than what

0:43:39.600 --> 0:43:41.520
<v Speaker 1>they had at the start of the season last year

0:43:41.560 --> 0:43:44.560
<v Speaker 1>for sure, and then with the scheme change to fit everybody,

0:43:44.600 --> 0:43:47.759
<v Speaker 1>I think they're no drafting. The one lineman they did

0:43:47.840 --> 0:43:51.000
<v Speaker 1>draft has athletic ability. He has a good seat, you know,

0:43:51.040 --> 0:43:53.000
<v Speaker 1>he's not he's not a guy that can't climb to

0:43:53.040 --> 0:43:55.680
<v Speaker 1>the second level when they're running inside the outside of it.

0:43:55.800 --> 0:43:59.239
<v Speaker 1>He's he's not a guy that can't can't move when

0:43:59.280 --> 0:44:03.239
<v Speaker 1>they run their pin and pole stuff. So yeah, we'll see.

0:44:03.239 --> 0:44:07.719
<v Speaker 1>I would think that they're probably targeting some college free

0:44:07.760 --> 0:44:11.759
<v Speaker 1>agents in terms of the offensive line. Whoever is left

0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:14.160
<v Speaker 1>from the Senior Bowl that they worked with down there.

0:44:14.600 --> 0:44:16.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they'll bring them to camp, you know, and

0:44:16.960 --> 0:44:19.080
<v Speaker 1>that they've either met with and studied from the North

0:44:19.200 --> 0:44:23.320
<v Speaker 1>or coached from the South. I know Balt get drafted,

0:44:23.680 --> 0:44:26.359
<v Speaker 1>I know Hennessy get drafted. Both of those guys were

0:44:26.360 --> 0:44:28.160
<v Speaker 1>down to the Senior Bowl. But I'm not sure about

0:44:28.160 --> 0:44:30.880
<v Speaker 1>how many of the other offensive line we get drafted.

0:44:31.040 --> 0:44:34.480
<v Speaker 1>And the fact that they only signed only drafted seven rookies,

0:44:35.239 --> 0:44:37.359
<v Speaker 1>you would think that you might have a few more

0:44:37.400 --> 0:44:39.680
<v Speaker 1>dollars in the budget to go out and get, you know,

0:44:39.920 --> 0:44:42.080
<v Speaker 1>an additional college free ason or two but like we

0:44:42.160 --> 0:44:45.880
<v Speaker 1>talked about earlier, with this era of the coronavirus, and

0:44:46.400 --> 0:44:49.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, very few oldtas potentially or mini camps or

0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:52.160
<v Speaker 1>anything else. And how you're going to evaluate guys, how

0:44:52.160 --> 0:44:54.400
<v Speaker 1>many do you bring in? You know, you made not

0:44:54.480 --> 0:44:56.720
<v Speaker 1>d ninety players this year. It might be a different

0:44:56.800 --> 0:44:58.759
<v Speaker 1>kind of year. It might only needs eighty, might only

0:44:58.800 --> 0:45:01.520
<v Speaker 1>needs seventy fives. So all that stuff I'm sure they're

0:45:01.520 --> 0:45:04.000
<v Speaker 1>talking about. They've already I know they. I know they've

0:45:04.000 --> 0:45:07.160
<v Speaker 1>done a budget, um, you know, for college free agency,

0:45:07.200 --> 0:45:10.000
<v Speaker 1>and then they kind of assigned it to different position groups,

0:45:10.040 --> 0:45:13.600
<v Speaker 1>and if one physician group has success, you know, the

0:45:13.640 --> 0:45:16.879
<v Speaker 1>other position position group might not get the guy they're

0:45:16.920 --> 0:45:19.520
<v Speaker 1>looking forward frees up funds for you know, a third

0:45:19.560 --> 0:45:21.520
<v Speaker 1>physian group for whatever. So that's kind of the way

0:45:21.560 --> 0:45:24.160
<v Speaker 1>they the way they worked at whoever has the all

0:45:24.239 --> 0:45:26.960
<v Speaker 1>the success, whever gets the first guest gets the dough

0:45:27.840 --> 0:45:30.600
<v Speaker 1>and then they just go from there. So I'm sure

0:45:30.600 --> 0:45:33.720
<v Speaker 1>they've targeted a couple of offensive lineman and they're probably

0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:36.520
<v Speaker 1>on the fallow of them as we speak here. I'm

0:45:36.560 --> 0:45:40.160
<v Speaker 1>glad you mentioned Jonah Williams because after our last podcast,

0:45:40.440 --> 0:45:43.480
<v Speaker 1>I got a question from somebody on Twitter. That's a

0:45:43.480 --> 0:45:46.680
<v Speaker 1>tough question, but a fair question. You pointed out that

0:45:46.719 --> 0:45:50.240
<v Speaker 1>one of the reasons why Josh Jones from Houston slid

0:45:51.040 --> 0:45:53.640
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL draft was that he has short arms.

0:45:54.360 --> 0:45:57.440
<v Speaker 1>His arms are roughly the same length as Jonah Williams.

0:45:57.840 --> 0:46:01.239
<v Speaker 1>Why didn't Jonah slide for the same reason. Bottom line

0:46:01.360 --> 0:46:04.680
<v Speaker 1>is he's just an overall, you know, better player with

0:46:04.719 --> 0:46:08.319
<v Speaker 1>his feet, with his power, with everything else that he

0:46:08.360 --> 0:46:11.560
<v Speaker 1>could overcome it more than that, more than Jones could.

0:46:11.680 --> 0:46:15.239
<v Speaker 1>But um, and we'll see, we'll see if we'll see

0:46:15.280 --> 0:46:17.080
<v Speaker 1>if Jonah wins that that's going to be a problem

0:46:17.120 --> 0:46:21.239
<v Speaker 1>for him as well. I will I will say because

0:46:21.239 --> 0:46:24.160
<v Speaker 1>I remember experiencing it when you when you're trying to

0:46:24.200 --> 0:46:28.719
<v Speaker 1>pass protect against a you know, an octopus and you

0:46:28.760 --> 0:46:31.400
<v Speaker 1>know you don't have those octopus length arms. That's tough.

0:46:32.040 --> 0:46:34.560
<v Speaker 1>That's tough. You can try to swat him away from you.

0:46:34.560 --> 0:46:37.360
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's hand to hand combat. But before you

0:46:37.360 --> 0:46:39.360
<v Speaker 1>could use your hands, I had to keep my hands.

0:46:39.560 --> 0:46:42.600
<v Speaker 1>I sist Clenston on my sternum and you know, try

0:46:42.640 --> 0:46:46.839
<v Speaker 1>to block the chicken wing elbows. Well, if the old

0:46:46.920 --> 0:46:49.600
<v Speaker 1>rings are boodle and these guys have you know, thirty

0:46:49.600 --> 0:46:51.919
<v Speaker 1>six ten charms in there. They could head slap. There's

0:46:51.960 --> 0:46:54.280
<v Speaker 1>swatting your head around their ear hole. You know, they're

0:46:54.400 --> 0:46:57.000
<v Speaker 1>popping your ear hole and your helmet. You ear drums

0:46:57.000 --> 0:46:59.520
<v Speaker 1>are popping and bursting. You know, it's like, what the

0:46:59.560 --> 0:47:01.200
<v Speaker 1>hell man? And then it might be something else I

0:47:01.239 --> 0:47:04.080
<v Speaker 1>can do other than this. It was it was brutal,

0:47:04.239 --> 0:47:06.160
<v Speaker 1>but then when they allowed you to use your hands

0:47:06.160 --> 0:47:08.440
<v Speaker 1>as an offensive and now you can counter, you know,

0:47:08.480 --> 0:47:11.680
<v Speaker 1>and do some hand to that combat stuff, So you know,

0:47:12.160 --> 0:47:15.240
<v Speaker 1>at all of that comes into play. How could if

0:47:15.280 --> 0:47:17.799
<v Speaker 1>you do have short arms, how good are your hands? Well,

0:47:17.800 --> 0:47:20.560
<v Speaker 1>where's your hand placement? How quick are your hands? Uh?

0:47:20.640 --> 0:47:22.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, how good are you in that hand to

0:47:22.160 --> 0:47:26.080
<v Speaker 1>hand combat? But yeah, it's it's probably that's not the

0:47:26.480 --> 0:47:29.560
<v Speaker 1>the only reason that you draft or don't draft a guy.

0:47:29.760 --> 0:47:32.120
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I think it's a tipe aaker? Do

0:47:32.120 --> 0:47:34.279
<v Speaker 1>you think it's a type aaker at times? All right,

0:47:34.320 --> 0:47:37.719
<v Speaker 1>final question. You've been associated with this franchise for more

0:47:37.760 --> 0:47:41.440
<v Speaker 1>than forty years. Do you ever recall a time that

0:47:41.520 --> 0:47:45.160
<v Speaker 1>the fan base was so excited about a newcomer as

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals fans are about Joe burrow Boy? You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>know I know the fans were pumped up when we

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<v Speaker 1>drafted two time Heisman Trophy when Archie Griffin from right

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<v Speaker 1>up the road in Columbus, Ohio. There's no doubt about that.

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<v Speaker 1>And Archie such a great guy to boot. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>talk about somebody that, uh, you know, you could put

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<v Speaker 1>up on billboards. It could be a face your franchise.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't a quarterback that here's the guy that is

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<v Speaker 1>the face of your franchise as the quarterback. And he's uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's something special and there's no doubt about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's this this uh, this community is fired up.

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<v Speaker 1>This region should be fired up, and I think it

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<v Speaker 1>is fired up. I think I do think that this uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy's going to do some some very special things. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when you drafted first first pick of the draft,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a Heisman Trophy went to Carson Palmer. But

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<v Speaker 1>he's excited about obviously, and he had had some good

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<v Speaker 1>years for the Bengals. But man, Joe Burrow, uh, but Carson,

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<v Speaker 1>who was a California guy, and Carson, you know, made

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<v Speaker 1>it made it known that he didn't wasn't sure if

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<v Speaker 1>he and his wife fit in the Midwest, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as easily as as people wanted it to to take place.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, you know, he couldn't wait to get back

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<v Speaker 1>out to Little to the West Coast as quickly as

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<v Speaker 1>he possibly could. Borrow's coming home. This is this is

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<v Speaker 1>where it's at for Joe Burrow. I mean, his family is.

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<v Speaker 1>He's so excited about being able to go home and

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<v Speaker 1>have a home cooked meal with his parents and his

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<v Speaker 1>girlfriend lives right here in Mason, Ohio and her family.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk about a support system, you know, sometimes two two

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<v Speaker 1>yard drive away, all of his friends, family, supporters. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got he's got a heck of a support system

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<v Speaker 1>going there. And I admire him for you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>went to Columbus, wanted to stay. Look, but then go

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<v Speaker 1>down to LSU and do what he did. It shows

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<v Speaker 1>you a lot, shows you a lot. Now now he

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<v Speaker 1>can be back home again and a guy that won

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<v Speaker 1>the Heisman Trophy, the National Championship. First pick of the draft,

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<v Speaker 1>and believe me, every player that has a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>be the first pick in the draft, you want to

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<v Speaker 1>compete and get that bad boy and the records he said,

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<v Speaker 1>might be a while before they're broke and sixty touchdown passes,

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<v Speaker 1>accounting for sixty five total touchdown ridiculous, cartoonish, it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see if he can set some in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you, I'd love to see him. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I do think you know I don't. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to set like ridiculous expectations to Joe Burrow. But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Dan. You know, Joe Burrow, Joe Mixon, they could,

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<v Speaker 1>they could compliment each other so well, one hand washed

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<v Speaker 1>the other. It's the Joe Show, the Joe Show, Joe Burrow,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Mixon. Let's get the Joe Show started. Here we go.

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