1 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast, the Because I'm Happy edition, as 3 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: we take a look at the Bengals Hall on Day 4 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: three of the NFL Draft and provide an overview of 5 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,159 Speaker 1: a draft class featuring a Heisman Trophy winning quarterback, a 6 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: big play threat and wide receiver, and three newcomers at 7 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: the team's most obvious position of need. The Bengals Booth 8 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: Podcast is presented by Prime Sport, the official fan, travel 9 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 1: and hospitality partner of the Cincinnati Bengals. 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After choosing 26 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: linebacker Logan Wilson with the first pick in the third 27 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: round on Friday night, the Bengals doubled down at the 28 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: position at the top of the fourth round on Saturday 29 00:01:55,080 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: by selecting Appalachian States Akeem Davis Gaither. By traditional standards, 30 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,639 Speaker 1: he's undersized for linebacker at six one two twenty four, 31 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: but the game is changing. Devin Bush is two inches 32 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: shorter and about ten pounds heavier and was the tenth 33 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: pick in last year's draft before having a strong rookie 34 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: season for the Steelers. For more on a Keen Davis Gaither, 35 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 1: here's Appalachian State play by play voice Adam Witton. A 36 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: Keem is one of those guys who is incredibly versatile 37 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: as a player. Dan, thanks for thanks for having me. 38 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: We're really excited as the Appalachian family to see him 39 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: get drafted so early and see a guy really who 40 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 1: has worked his tail off to get to where he has. 41 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: Everybody that's been drafted has their own story to get 42 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 1: to this point. But I think what people are really 43 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: gonna like about a team is his work ethic and 44 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: his motivation and his attitude. He's got the physical traits. 45 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: He's incredibly fast, he's strong, He's put on about fifty 46 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 1: pounds since he came on campus as one hundred and 47 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: seventy five pound freshman in twenty fifteen. But just to 48 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: see where he was and where he's gotten to now 49 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: is a true testament to his work ethic. That guy 50 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: is someone that wasn't very highly recruited out of high school. 51 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: He had one Power five offer really out of Thomasville 52 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: High School near Winston Salem in North Carolina. But he 53 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: has developed, he has learned, he has applied himself, and 54 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, he has taken that strong 55 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: work ethic and combined it with some amazing physical traits 56 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: to become the complete package and linebacker. I like that, 57 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: the fact that he can do a lot of different things, 58 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: you know, I think He's big enough to be somebody 59 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: that can tackle in space one on one. He's fast 60 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: enough to track guys down sideline to sideline on the perimeter, 61 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: and we've seen him a lot in coverage to being 62 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: able to cover tight ends or slot receivers and be 63 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: able to make plays and cause some destruction in the 64 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: passing game as well. I think Bengal fans are really 65 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: gonna like this young man. We are talking to the 66 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: voice of Appalachian State, Adam Witton. He's a coaches kid. 67 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: Was that evident when you were around him? I think so. 68 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: But but the interesting thing about a team is that 69 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: he didn't really have a love for football when he 70 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: was in high school until about midway through his high 71 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: school career. You know, his dad, Keith, has been a 72 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: coach for for a long time, and so it was 73 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: kind of something that was expected out of him when 74 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: when he was growing up. But it wasn't until midway 75 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: through his high school career that that he kind of 76 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 1: developed that love for football. But once he did develop 77 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: that love and that passion for it, you can really 78 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: see it. I mean, all the things that you look 79 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: for in someone who who grows up in a football family, 80 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: and a coach's son um. You can see the discipline, 81 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: you can see the attention to detail, you can see 82 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: the attitude. He is mature way beyond his years because 83 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: he has learned a lot of those traits I think 84 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: from his upbringing, and so yes, you can you can 85 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: certainly see that come across not watching him play, but 86 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 1: when you get a chance to speak to him and 87 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: be around him off the field as well. He has 88 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 1: special teams experience at Appalachian State. He told us that 89 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 1: he was the special teams player of the year early 90 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: in his career in college, and that's likely something he'll 91 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: be asked to do in Cincinnati. Do you see him 92 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: contributing right away in that department? I do you know 93 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: a tame One of the highlights of his career was 94 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: this past season and it was on special teams. You know, 95 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: he early in the year, you see guys like him 96 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: that are on cover junits, getting down, making tackles, causing 97 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: havoc in the kickoff return game when you're on the 98 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: other side. But Akame's biggest play, maybe in his career, 99 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: one of the ones that he's going to be remembered for, 100 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: is he blocked the field goal to beat North Carolina 101 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: early in the season. For the Mountaineers, it was a 102 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: monumental win for the program, beating an ACC program from 103 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: within the state, their first win over a P five 104 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: program since Michigan into seven, and a team had the 105 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 1: game winning play by by blocking the kick to give 106 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: Appalachian a three point win. So, whether it's in coverage, 107 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: making tackles on kickoff coverage or punk coverage, or even 108 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: on the block units to be able to make a 109 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: play and field goal block or even punk block, he's 110 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 1: got a lot of different ways he could potentially help 111 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: on special teams. You mentioned that he's added about fifty 112 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: pounds since enrolling in college one seventy five to two 113 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 1: twenty five. Is that about all that he can grow 114 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: to or is there still room to maybe add a 115 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: little more size. It's a good question. You know, we've 116 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: seen this at places like Appalachian where guys, you know, 117 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: traditionally at a a G five program like an app state, 118 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: you'll tend to get guys who are super talented but 119 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit under size. But we've seen them 120 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: graduate into the NFL and then put on a lot 121 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: more bulk. You know, one of the team's biggest strengths 122 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: is his speed. He is uniquely quick as a linebacker, 123 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: and he was able to play an outside linebacker position 124 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: in a three to four bass because of that speed 125 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: and the way that he could get out of the 126 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: quarterback or track guys down in space. And so I 127 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: don't know. I think it kind of remains to be 128 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: seeing whether or not getting larger than two twenty five 129 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: is going to be a benefit for him, because I 130 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: think even at two twenty five, he's strong enough and 131 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:29,679 Speaker 1: has good enough technique to still tackle bigger guys. So 132 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: you know, the one thing that you don't want to 133 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: do is do anything to make him lose some of 134 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: the things he's really good at, which is certainly his quickness. 135 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: Final question for Appalachian State broadcaster Adam Whitton. I was 136 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: surprised to learn that a team suffered a stress fracture 137 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: in his foot in Week three and kept playing, made 138 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: it through the season, played in the Senior Bowl, then 139 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: had foot surgery in March. What does that say about 140 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: a Keen Davis Gaither? It certainly shows his toughness, and 141 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: you know that that's one way to look at It's 142 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: because I think a lot of us kind of learned 143 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: towards the end of the season just what he was 144 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: dealing with throughout twenty nineteen. The fact that you said, 145 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: you know, it happened in that North Carolina game that 146 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: we just talked about. Um, but we saw, we saw 147 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: those signs of him slowing down. He was still as 148 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: good as ever and continued to improve his stock at 149 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: the season went along. Um. You know, he was impressive 150 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: in the Senior Bowls, as we've discussed, and so I 151 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: think if anything, it says his ability to to really 152 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: do whatever is required for him to get the job accomplished. UM. 153 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: I've talked about his determination, which is which is apparent 154 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: as we've seen him throughout his Appalachian career. But the 155 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: fact that he was still just as productive as he 156 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: was even battling that injury in his senior season. You know, 157 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: ideally it says, man, after now a long time to 158 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: heal from from that procedure, you know, imagine, could he 159 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: be even better than than what we saw in his 160 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: senior season Appalachian, which was pretty spectacular. So hopefully it 161 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: gives maybe even a higher ceiling than we originally thought. 162 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: Excellent luck at fourth round pick Akeem Davis Gaither courtesy 163 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: of broadcaster Adam Witton. In the fifth round, the Bengal 164 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: selected Notre Dame defensive end Khaled Kareem, a six four, 165 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty eight pounder who was a two 166 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: year starter for the Fighting Irish and had thirteen sacks 167 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: over the last three years. Here's a closer look at 168 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: Kareem from Bengals defensive coordinator lou Anna Rumo. You know, 169 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: at this point in the draft, when you get a 170 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: guy that's as big and as tall and as long 171 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: as you know, a guy's an eighty four inch wingspan, 172 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: you know, had thirteen somewhat sacks in his career, was 173 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: a captain and Notre Dame last year you're talking about 174 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 1: some and has passed rush ability again in the fifth round. 175 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: I think that's, uh, those are traits that we like. 176 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: Seems like everybody year draft and has been a team 177 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: captain was severing elegance. I mean, it's it's it's building 178 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: a heck of a culture. It seems like, yeah, it helps. 179 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: I mean those guys, Uh, you know, anybody anytime you've 180 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: got leaders, uh you know that we're leaders in college. 181 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: Certainly that uh that Lens lends itself to being a 182 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: better leader in the pro so and at a place 183 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: like Notre Dame, you know, which is uh obviously is 184 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: what it is. So we're very excited about it. You've 185 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: got five free agents that could start. Logan Wilson was drafted. 186 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: Now this player from Notre Dame. Can you talk about 187 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: how the talent on defense had just been transformed? Well, 188 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: you know it was over the last few years. You know, 189 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: obviously got here late last year, but uh, um, you know, 190 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: as I've said, since I've gotten here, this has been 191 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: a proud place when it comes to defense, uh, you know, 192 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: for a long long time, and it hasn't been that 193 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: way the last few years. And uh, you know, some 194 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 1: of the players getting older and you know, for whatever 195 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: the reasons. But part of it is our job is 196 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: to evaluate and uh get younger bodies in here that 197 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: can compete for spots, and you know, who ends up 198 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: starting and all that will play itself out. But our 199 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: jobs is to get a pool to create competition and 200 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: then the best guys will bubble up and play. And 201 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: we're doing that with both free hc in the draft. 202 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: Before we get to the Bengal sixth round pick, here's 203 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: a quick reminder that you can take your Bengals pride 204 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: to the next level in twenty twenty with an official 205 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 1: Bengals fan package from Prime Sport. The Bengal selected one 206 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: offensive lineman in this year's draft, Hakim Identagy, a four 207 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: year starter at Kansas who played tackle there before taking 208 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: some snaps at guard and the Senior Bowl. He's six four, 209 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 1: three hundred pounds and had a fourth round grade according 210 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: to draft guru Dane Brugler, but fell to the Bengals 211 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: at the top of round six. From more on Identagy, 212 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 1: here's the voice of the Kansas Jayhawks, Brian Haney. Well, Dad, 213 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: thanks a lot for having me on. I'm so excited 214 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 1: for a Kim and picks it Cinnati stats be pumped two. 215 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: This was a guy who was the model of consistency 216 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: from the first day he arrives on campus. And I 217 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: know we'll talk about the circumstances that led to him 218 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: being a Jayhawk, but he comes in the middle of 219 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: the summer before his true freshman year and winds up 220 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 1: starting all forty eight games as his collegiate career. Twice 221 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: over was an All Big Twelve lineman, including first team 222 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: all big twelve senior years. So he was the model 223 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: of consistency and just a really productive player that got 224 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: stronger as he grew into his body and added to 225 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: his frame, played through injuries a couple of times in 226 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: the middle of his career for lengthy stretches, and yet 227 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: never came off the field. So you gotta love a 228 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: guy like that. He's gritty, he's tough, and he's a 229 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: really high character young man. It'll be a tremendous addition 230 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: to your franchise. If not for a Cashew allergy, he 231 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 1: would not have wound up at Kansas, Isn't that crazy? Yeah, 232 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: he was supposed to go to air Force. His brother 233 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: had played at Air Force, and he was always planning 234 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: to follow in his brother's footsteps. And he shows up 235 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: on campus and in the medical reports there pops up 236 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: the allergy. And at a place like air Force, that's 237 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: enough to derail your acceptance. And so it's June of 238 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: the summertime to perceives his first semester as a college 239 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: student athlete, and thankfully for him, his Garland High school 240 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: and coach Jeff Jordan, had just taken the job for 241 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 1: another Garland graduate at the time, Kansas head coach David Beatty. 242 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: And so you know, one door closes, another opens, and 243 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 1: a Kim has a tremendous perspective on that. You never know, 244 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: you know what curveball life's going to throw you in 245 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: some ways, this weekend was a curveball because I know 246 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 1: he really felt like he was going to go on 247 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: the fourth round. But he's been a guy that's always 248 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: accepted whatever cards he's dealt, and that makes the most 249 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: of them. In this case, he comes to Kansas and 250 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: as I said, within about six weeks he's won himself 251 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: a starting job and he never let lucifit his entire career. 252 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 1: Got to finish up playing his last season for Less Miles, 253 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: a future Hall of Famer and his own right, and 254 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: learned a lot from coach Miles former lineman himself, So 255 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: he had a chance to play for several guys he 256 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:05,719 Speaker 1: never would have dreamed he would have played flore had 257 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: it not been for the Cashoe Ala Geet. But all 258 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: the while he felt like it was happening for a 259 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: reason and he was getting blessed by it. And here 260 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 1: he is now fulfilling his NFL dream. Because of it, 261 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: we're spending a few minutes with the voice of the 262 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: Kansas Jayhawks, Brian Haney. When Bengals offensive coordinator Brian Callahan 263 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: was asked about Hakim, the first thing that he spoke 264 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: of was his smarts. Did that stand out in your 265 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: interactions with him? Absolutely, very football savvy, a guy that 266 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: always on Tuesdays and we got to talk to the players, 267 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: you could always count on a great sound buy from 268 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: him because whether they'd only had a day or so 269 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: a film study, he'd already been watching in the weeks 270 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: leading up on that next opponent coming up. So he 271 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: always had a head for the scouting report in the 272 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: opposition coming up. And on top of that, he's just 273 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: a delightfully young guy to talk to. His mother is 274 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: from Nigeria and she was actually a broadcast TV star 275 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: back in Nigeria as a reporter, anchor journalists, and so 276 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: he's always been a very well spoken young man. And 277 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: when you're adding how much he studies the game and 278 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: how well prepared he is weeken and we got I 279 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: think you'll find him from a media perspective as one 280 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: of your favorites to talk to. It seems like in 281 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: this particular draft, if you are not a team captain, 282 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: the Bengals aren't interested. It's been one team captain after 283 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: the next. And that was the case for a team identity. 284 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: What traits stood out that his teammates would want him 285 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: in that role? Great question. And you know when you 286 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: think about his four years of Kansas, and I talked 287 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: earlier about no matter what the circumstances are, always finding 288 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: a positive adjust to move forward, starting with how he 289 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: arrived here to then the adversity of going through three 290 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: different offensive line coaches and two head coaches in his 291 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: time here. He was always the same consistent, eyes on 292 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: the prize, looking ahead as opposed to looking behind, and 293 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: all that type of mentality, and I think that's what 294 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: you needing a leader, a next playoff, next man up, 295 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: that kind of mindset, and he had that throughout and 296 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: no matter who was doing the coaching on the sidelines 297 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: or who the headman was atop the program, he adjusted. 298 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: And Akim was the same guy, bringing his lunch pail 299 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: to work every single day, same approach, same hard work, 300 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: a rock steady solid and I think that's what you 301 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: want from leaders. Obviously, he didn't obviously enjoy as much 302 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: winning here as we would like the last time, well 303 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: not the last time, I guess you guys took Tanner 304 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: Hockinson in twenty thirteen, but before that, when you took 305 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: a Kansas offensive lineman in two thousand and eight, Anthony Collins, 306 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: he'd just come off twelve wins and the Orange Bowl championship. 307 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: And Ke never got that. But he was the part 308 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: of some really big individual moments, like beating Texas as 309 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: a sophomore, first time k You've beaten ut in fifty years. 310 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: He helps k you beat Boston College on national TV 311 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: this year, beat Texas Tech. I think he's excited to 312 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: get in with the great franchise. It's clearly on the 313 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: rise now at Joe Burrow and Tiggins and all these guys, 314 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: and be a part of a young nucleus that's going 315 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: to do a whole lot more winning than what he 316 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: ever achieved on the collegiate gridiron. And because he's so consistent, 317 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: so well prepared, and so determined, I think he's going 318 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 1: to fit into that pedigree at DNA with the rest 319 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: of those guys like Burrow and Higgins. Thanks to Brian 320 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: Haney for that in depth look at Hakim Adenagee, the 321 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: Bengal seventh and final pick was another linebacker, Marcus Bailey, 322 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: who grew up in Columbus before his standout career at Purdue. 323 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: He was still available with a two hundred and fifteenth 324 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: pick in the draft due to knee problems. Marcus toward 325 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: the ACL and his left knee as a freshman, then 326 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: toward the ACL and his right knee early last season. 327 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: Here's a closer look at Marcus Bailey from Purdue radio 328 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: voice Tim Newton. Marcus Bailey is a really instinctive football player. 329 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: When he hits somebody, they usually go down. He doesn't 330 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: miss a lot of tackles. He's very good in open space, 331 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 1: going up against some of the best athletes in the 332 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: Big Ten one on one in the flat. He was 333 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: able to get guys to the turf with regularity. And 334 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: if he can stay healthy, I think the Bengals had 335 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: one of the steels of the draft. A Bengals coach 336 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: described him as a football junkie. Is that accurate? I 337 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: think it is. He would see him all the time 338 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 1: over in the football complex. You know he's a good student. 339 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: He was a three time academic All Big Ten. He 340 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: graduated early. In fact, was actually into his second year 341 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 1: of grad school starting the last season. So he's a 342 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 1: guy that is a student of the game. I think 343 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: again that matched with his instinctiveness on the football field, 344 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 1: has really made him a very productive player. And it's 345 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 1: a shame that his last season was cut short, just 346 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 1: as his first season was. But he's a guy that 347 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 1: football is very important to him. And I think he's 348 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 1: also a great leader, and that was shown by the 349 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: fact that his teammates voted him captain. We are visiting 350 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: with Purdue radio voice Tim Newton. When he suffered that 351 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: knee injury last year, second torn ACL of his Purdue career. 352 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: How devastating was that for the entire program. I think 353 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: of all the losses that Purdue had, and I've never 354 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: seen a team as ravaged last year by injury as 355 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: this team was. His was the biggest loss of all. 356 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: And it wasn't just the fact that he was probably 357 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 1: the best defensive player in terms of production, but he 358 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: was also the best leader. And I think that's really 359 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: where a lot of things went sideways in the season 360 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 1: last year for Purdue is after he got hurt, there 361 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: wasn't that guy that could bring everybody together in the huddle, 362 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: in the midst of battle and say Okay, let's settle down. 363 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 1: We need to do this, that or the other thing. 364 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: They really really suffered after he went out last season, 365 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: So it was a huge loss booth from what he 366 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: was able to do production wise, but also his leadership. 367 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: You mentioned him that you think he could turn out 368 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: to be a steal if he stays healthy. Did you 369 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: have any sense prior to his injury for how high 370 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 1: he might have been drafted. I think he had. I believe, 371 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: and this is talking to some people in both in 372 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: the scouting business and on the coaching staff. I think 373 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: he was a second or third round talent. I really 374 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 1: believe that, just again from his productivity and the fact 375 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: that he is good in space. He's an outstanding athlete, 376 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: and he played with a little bit of a chip 377 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: on his shoulder. He's a kid from Columbus that was 378 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: not recruited by his hometown team, and in twenty eighteen 379 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: he got a measure of revenge by taking an interception 380 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: in for a touchdown in the big win over Ohio State. 381 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: So he was a kid that was motivated from the 382 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: time he got on campus. But I think when he 383 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: was healthy he was easily one of the best five 384 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 1: linebackers in the conference. Mets saying a lot with some 385 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: of the talent we have at places like Ohio State, Michigan, 386 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: Penn State. But he was really a legitimate All Big 387 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: Ten player and I think was going to have a 388 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: great senior season. The Bengals have really struggled in recent 389 00:20:56,240 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 1: years to find linebackers with coverage ability. You mentioned his 390 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: pick six against the Buckeyes. He had six interceptions in 391 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: his career at Purdue. Is that a strength it is? 392 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: I think he's able to get out. I mentioned the 393 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 1: fact that he can get guys down in one on 394 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: one situations, but he's also going to be somebody that 395 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: will be able to cover running backs coming out of 396 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: the backfield. I think whether he had to pick up 397 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: a tight end or a running back, he'll be able 398 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: to play in space and he's able to cover a 399 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 1: lot of ground. He's a sidelined a sideline players. I 400 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: think he's really again the whole package is the only 401 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: problem with him has been the knee injuries in keeping 402 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 1: him on the field and healthy. It happened early last year. 403 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: It sounds like the surgery went smoothly and everything's coming 404 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: along on schedule. Is he the type of guy that, 405 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: just based on his history, you would expect to make 406 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: a speed of recovery. Oh, I would think so. He did. 407 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 1: He recovered very well from the first surgery, and from 408 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 1: all indications we had, this one was going equally as well. 409 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,239 Speaker 1: So I would expect by whenever training camp is that 410 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 1: he should be ready to go, and it will be 411 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: close to a full year by the time he gets 412 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: back on the field, if it's July or August. And 413 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: he suffered the injury in September, so he's had he 414 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: will have had the majority of the year by the 415 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: time he gets on the field. But he's been rehabbing 416 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: and I think he'll be ready to go physically. I 417 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 1: know he's ready to go mentally. Thanks to the Voice 418 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: of the boiler Makers, Tim Newton. Now time for a 419 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: Day three recap and an overall look at the Bengals 420 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 1: draft class with my broadcast partner Dave Lapham. All right, Lap, 421 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: we'll talk about the Day three draft picks and then 422 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: we'll get to an overview of the entire draft for 423 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: the Bengals. Let's start in Round four with the first 424 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: pick of the fourth round. The Bengals drafted the guy 425 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: that you more or less predicted they would pick prior 426 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: to Day three of the draft, linebacker Akeem Davis Gaither. 427 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: They not only doubled down at linebacker in this draft, 428 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: three of their seven picks came from that position. Yeah, 429 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: And I think you know they've they've done it before 430 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: about before the draft, back in the earliest part of 431 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: the century. They draft Tekioe Spikes, Brian Simmons, Steve Foley 432 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 1: three draft picks, and then they signed a free age 433 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: in Adrian Ross. While they draft three picks, they're at linebacker, 434 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: not as high, but they still address it. And then 435 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: they may sign another one in free agers who we 436 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 1: don't know. The common denominator in the overhaul of those 437 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 1: two different occasions Mark Duffner. So, Mark duft had had 438 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: a big thing in evaluating the linebacker talent in both 439 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: of those instances and and maybe rebuilding the linebacker group. 440 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: And I think that these guys individually have a lot 441 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 1: of a lot of pride, and I think the game 442 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: of football means a ton to them, and I think collectively, 443 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: I think they'd like to be the three musketeers that 444 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: turn the franchise around at the linebacker position. I think 445 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: they'd relish the fact that you know, they could wave 446 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: the flag, that they're the guys that solidified the middle 447 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 1: of the Cincinnati Bengals defense was used and had so 448 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: many problems with miss tackles and mister Simons and everything else. 449 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: I see all three of those guys, you know, wanted 450 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 1: to make make that different for sure. And a Keen 451 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: Davis Gaitheror is a captain son of a football coach. 452 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: And when you when you have sons of football coaches, 453 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: that means that they have a support system. You know, 454 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 1: they've grown up around the game. The entire family, wife 455 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: and other siblings understand how important the game is, and 456 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 1: it gives it gives them an additional opportunity to succeed. 457 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: A tremendous support system, and I think, uh, I think 458 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 1: that's going to pay dividends for the Bengals. You saw 459 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: a Keen Davis Gaitheror at the Senior Bowl. The Bengals 460 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: coaching staff obviously got to know him there. He was 461 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 1: the Sun Belt Defensive Player of the Year at Appalachian State. 462 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: Draft expert Dane Bruegler from The Athletic had him number 463 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: fifty four overall on his board. The Bengals got him 464 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: with a one hundred and seventh pick, so that's all good. 465 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 1: The question mark with him seems to be is he 466 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: big enough right? And and because it's fast enough, I mean, 467 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: you know he runs four or five and that that's 468 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: going to be the thing um when he's on the 469 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: football field, particularly in the AFC North I Buy formation. 470 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: They're going to probably try to target him in an area, 471 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: try to locate him on an area of the football 472 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: field where they're going to test his ability to get 473 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: off blocks and stop the run. You know, I think 474 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: they everybody's going to understand that a guy that size 475 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 1: and that kind of speed, you know, will operate well 476 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: in space. But can can you muscle up? You know, 477 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: can when when you come in there with a couple 478 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 1: of a couple of tightens and you know, when they 479 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: sub times like that, you may be subbed out of 480 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 1: the football game. But if if they decide to reduce 481 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 1: the formation and play smash ball football between the hash 482 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: marks and get him in tight in a home booth 483 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: as such, can he operated his way out of that 484 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: phone booth? And that's that's going to be the test 485 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: for all these young linebackers because some of these, uh, 486 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: some of these guys in the offensive lines with the 487 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens and Pittsburgh Steels in Cleveland Browns, I mean, 488 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 1: they're they these college kids that are coming in they 489 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: have seen one or two of those guys during the 490 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 1: course of the season. Now they're going to see five 491 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: of those guys every single week of their professional career. 492 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: I'm guessing that special teams coordinator Darren Simmons loves this 493 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: pick a tea. Yeah, Kam Davis Gaither played special teams 494 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 1: at Appalachian State. He was the teams special teams Player 495 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: of the Year early in his career. He had a 496 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 1: game saving block field goal last year against North Carolina. 497 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: So this is not something that he is going to 498 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: have to embrace at the NFL level. It's something he's 499 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: been doing absolutely, Dan, And you look at you look 500 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: at all the picks h you know at the linebacker position. 501 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: You know they're being termed as potentially as three down linebackers. 502 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm not sure that that's going to 503 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 1: be the case for all of them, miss rookies. So 504 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: at some point in time, I'm sure Logan Wilson will 505 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: get some taste of special teams. The keen Davis Gaither 506 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: will as well, and Marcus Bailey is the third linebacker 507 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: that they drafted. At the end of the day, all 508 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: of them have tasted the special teams, particularly early in 509 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: their career. Like you said, as they turned into stalwarts 510 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the football, you know that 511 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 1: that minimalizes the special team snaps. But these guys were 512 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 1: all smart. That's a common denominator two with all the 513 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 1: picks to in and they're all captains, they're all smart, 514 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,719 Speaker 1: they're all sons of coaches. I mean, it's crazy. I 515 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: think that they they're going to understand very quickly, and 516 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: Darren Simmons will make a point of them understanding it 517 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: very quickly that their future is going to be determined 518 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: in the short term by what they do. For Darren Simmons. 519 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: Let's move to the fifth round. The Bengals selected a 520 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: defensive end out of Notre Dame Khalid Kareem six four, 521 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty eight pounds, another college captain. The 522 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 1: description I got on him was solid, if unspectacular. Had 523 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 1: five and a half sacks this year, forced three fumbles, 524 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: and apparently has gigantic arms. Yeah, he's got a huge 525 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: wingspan eighty four inch wingspan, thirty four and a half 526 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: inch length in the arms, big hands, So that that 527 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 1: tells you though, he should be able to control people 528 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: and keep people you know, away from him, out of 529 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 1: his out of his body as such. And you know 530 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: all these guys too, they have position versatility. You know, 531 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 1: he might give him some snaps. A defensive end might 532 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: give him some snaps outside linebacker, could be a sub 533 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 1: package edge rush guy because he could you know, they 534 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: could drop him off into coverage. And you know what 535 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: they've done with Sam Hubbard, I think this guy might 536 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: be capable of doing as well. And you know another 537 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: kid that a captain of his football team, and um, 538 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: you know the culture that they're building I think is 539 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: uh is very very interesting. You know. It's another one 540 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: that that was he was scheduled to play in the 541 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,479 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. He couldn't because of venue. But you know, 542 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: he's obviously he's obviously got some some talents in coming 543 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: out and Notre Dame. We know what Brian Kelly is 544 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: all about. We know the program that Frian Kelly runs, 545 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: so we know that this kid is the real deal. 546 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: In terms of being, you know, not only a good 547 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: football player, but a solid citizen in every way, shape 548 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: or form. To the sixth round, where the Bengal selected 549 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: an offensive lineman, Hakim Identagy. He played tackle at Kansas. 550 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: Apparently the Bengals look at him as a guy who 551 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: could play guard as well in the NFL. And of 552 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: all the Bengals draft picks, he's the one who has 553 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: the most interesting backstory. He was going to go to 554 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: Air Force and then shortly before he was ready to 555 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: go from high school to college, Air Force said, nope, 556 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: you can no longer be admitted because of a cash 557 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: you allergy man. How bad would you feel as the 558 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: coach that recruited him. Everything's hunky door, it's all set 559 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: to go, and cash you allergy nullifies the whole thing. 560 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: And that dad had to be a interesting, dynamic beau. 561 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: His brother was already at Air Force and already gone 562 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: to Air Force. That tells you a lot about that family. 563 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: When when you're talking to military academies, I mean, you know, 564 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: I remember what it was. I get recruited by Army 565 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: and Navy and and you have to get you know, 566 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: your local center at Cenator Ted Kennedy wrote a letter 567 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: of recommendation Army Navy for me. He said, I know 568 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: the process you have to go through and for these 569 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: these guys to get accepted the Air Force tells you 570 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: a lot about the type of person there. And another 571 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: there's another case of a guy that's got some intal act, 572 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, there's there's no doubt about it. 573 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: These guys took the book seriously, not just the football 574 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: field or the basketball court or whatever the case may be. 575 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: They they they're true student athletes. And you know, thing 576 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: about this guy is when you look at his game, 577 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: he's explosive, he's sudden, he's got really good feet. I 578 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: think he's got some big upside. I really do. I 579 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: think that. Initially, you know, he played more left tackle 580 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: than right tackle. But if I'm doing a depth chart 581 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: for the season, I have him in their competition over 582 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: there at the right tackle spot to see who's the 583 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: better man. You know, Bobby Hart is Fred Johns? Is 584 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: Fred the better man? Is it? Is it this rookie? 585 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I'd make that a very competitive scenario over 586 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: there at the right tackle position. Then move from there accordingly. 587 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: It's a lot easier, you know, he was supposed to 588 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: bounce in. You know, he didn't put part in the 589 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: in the Senior Bowl. And this is one of the 590 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: three Senior Bowl people that the Bengals drafted. Um, and 591 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: you know, he did it willingly. And I think initially 592 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: they're going to take a look at him at tackle, 593 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: but hey, if you can play tackle, I'm telling you, 594 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: it's much easier to kick inside and play guard. Usually 595 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: pretty remarkable. When he accomplished at Kansas, he gets the 596 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: late word from Air Force that he can't go there 597 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: because of the cashew allergy. So he winds up at 598 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: Kansas at the last minute, shows up for fall practice, 599 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: wins the starting job, and starts forty eight consecutive games. Yeah, 600 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: that's that's the other thing. A lot these guys are, 601 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: you know, four year players, red shirt guys. Everybody they 602 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: drafted has played a lot of football, except when injury 603 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: unfortunately interrupted you know, their respective careers. In some cases, 604 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: they played a lot of football, prospected by their teammates, 605 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: voted captain, handled the academic part of it. You know, 606 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: it's it really is. I mean, my numbers say three 607 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: three Senior Bowl participants. Senior Bowls certainly paid off for 608 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals. In this draft, five of the seven 609 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: draft picks are captains. Three of the seven draft picks 610 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: are coaches sons. I mean, my goodness, you know, it's 611 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: it's uh. I think I'm not sure if they had 612 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: the FBI IA. I don't know how many people investigated 613 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: the character of their players, but well, they did a 614 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: good job of screening them and getting guys that in 615 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: most cases came from very very successful, winning programs as well. 616 00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: And the same thing happened in free agency again. I mean, 617 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: you know what they did in free it to see, 618 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: it's like everybody was on a playoff team. So it's 619 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: it's there's there's some common denominators that flowed through all 620 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: these selections, including Hakim. The Bengals final pick was linebacker 621 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: Marcus Bailey out of Purdue, And this reminds me of 622 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: the Rodney Anderson selection last year, and that you take 623 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: a late draft chance on a guy with an injury 624 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: history who was extremely productive when he wasn't hurt. He 625 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: only played in a couple of games last year. He 626 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: missed the last ten with a torn right ACL. Early 627 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: in his college career, he tore his left ACL but 628 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: in between he was one of the most productive linebackers 629 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: in the Big Ten. Yeah, and when you hear that, 630 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: I mean he's a football junkie as such, he's always 631 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: at the facility. You know, you can only spend so 632 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: many hours with a player by hen rules X number 633 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: of hours per week. But that doesn't mean that the 634 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: player can't go in there on their own and breakdown 635 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: tape and do a everything they want to do in 636 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: that regard to improve themselves as football players. And that 637 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: was Marcus Bailey and the coaches basically had to kick 638 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: him out of the place. That tells you that you 639 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: got a guy that the game is significantly important to him. 640 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: He can't he's got a thirst for knowledge. You know. 641 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: He started throwing names out there like Luke Keigley, Bobby 642 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: Wagner that you know, he felt like had had a 643 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 1: tremendous football IQ that could never be satisfied and another 644 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: good student, you know, three point five GPA. He's got 645 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: his masters and leadership and said that's pretty good. I mean, 646 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 1: he said, there's going to be a Kansas at FORDU 647 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: for five years. Why not get a master's degree out 648 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 1: of it? And that's somebody that's got some maturity to 649 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: him instead of you know, worrying about where your next 650 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: beer is coming from on campus in the party, you know, 651 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: he wants to balance it out and make sure that 652 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: he's got his academics taken care of him. Another guy 653 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: that gives a lot of position versatility. He can play 654 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 1: well in space. You know, he can cover people, he 655 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:02,919 Speaker 1: can blitz. So I they've they've got themselves some chess 656 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 1: pieces to play with at this linebacker position, with smart 657 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: guys that you don't necessarily have to sub in and 658 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 1: out of there. You know, when when the offense make 659 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: substitutions and personnel formation wise, you're you're allowed to. But 660 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: if the offense has versatility and they flex tight ends 661 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,280 Speaker 1: or whatever the case may be, and they don't allow 662 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: you to sub personnel, you get linebackers they can walk 663 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: out there with those tight ends. In some cases, uh 664 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 1: you know, maybe you know we'll even cover a slot receiver. 665 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 1: You know, at a pension, when you have those kind 666 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: of athletes, it gives you usually your heck of a counter. 667 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: I mean, now you're in a great testpense. There's no 668 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: question about it. All right. A few big picture topics 669 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,879 Speaker 1: now that the draft is finished for the Bengals. We've 670 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: talked about the fact that a lot of these guys 671 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: were captains. Six of the seven draft picks were college captains. 672 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: Logan Wilson three time captain, Marcus Bailey two time captain, 673 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow two time captains. I joked on Twitter the 674 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 1: only captains the Bengals didn't draft were Hook, Kangaroo, Morgan 675 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: and Crunch. I like it, but Zach Taylor made a 676 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 1: point of saying, it's great that they're captains. That says 677 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,720 Speaker 1: something about them. But we didn't just draft good guys. 678 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,760 Speaker 1: They were all extremely talented players and the captain aspect 679 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,399 Speaker 1: is a nice bonus, right, And I think I think 680 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: you know the concept of all right, when you're a captain, 681 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 1: one of the things that you have to do is 682 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,240 Speaker 1: make sure that you're setting a standard where don't accept 683 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: anything but the best effort out of individual players. And 684 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: then of course it accumulates to be a team thing 685 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: and you have to set the standard. And that's why 686 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: in my mind, you know, great players, um, you know, 687 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 1: like Anthony Munio's, James Brooks, you know, pick some of 688 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,760 Speaker 1: the great players in Bengal franchise history. Their work ethic 689 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 1: was to suck that man. Those guys they're always in 690 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl every year and look what they're doing. 691 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 1: Am I doing enough? And that's that's a good thing 692 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,800 Speaker 1: to have telling you when you're when your best players. 693 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 1: And that's sort of a professional approach to it. The 694 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 1: mentality where I'm going to be the best and no 695 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: one's going to stop me from being the best. It 696 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 1: raises the whole boat. You know. Tom Brady is in there, 697 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 1: you know, bright and early, first one in, last to leave, 698 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: and he's not wasted time. He's efficiently getting himself better, 699 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 1: you know, day after day, week after week, month after month, 700 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 1: year after year. Now now he cames into it. It's crazy. 701 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 1: And if you can find guys that have that type 702 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 1: of mentality, that type of mindset, you know, instead of 703 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 1: the coaches having to force you to do it, if 704 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 1: the players are saying, hey, follow my lead, do what 705 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 1: I do, and it's a positive example. Now you've got 706 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,760 Speaker 1: something cooking. If the players can can set the standard 707 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 1: of that, police themselves if somebody stray, as the players 708 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 1: take care of it. That's the good teams that I 709 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 1: played on or played with. We never waited for coaches 710 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 1: to discipline or correct or whatever. Man took care of ourselves, 711 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 1: took care of ourselves. It's like, you, dude, we got 712 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 1: something good going on here. Don't screw this up. You 713 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 1: know you don't want to be part of this. There's 714 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,320 Speaker 1: the door, don't body hit you in the buttter on 715 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:25,240 Speaker 1: your way out. And when the players are believing that 716 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 1: that kind of mentality and self policing it, now you 717 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: get something powerful. The biggest surprise to me is that 718 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 1: the Bengals never traded down for more picks. I would 719 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: have guaranteed going into this draft that at some point 720 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: they're going to trade down a few spots to get 721 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 1: more picks. And when they reached their their spot in 722 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,879 Speaker 1: every round, either they liked the guy that was there 723 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 1: so much that they weren't willing to go down, or 724 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 1: no team really made a good enough offer for them 725 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: to do it. Yeah. Right, And I think I think 726 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 1: the overlooked to the draft had a play in that. 727 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 1: You know, it's like, okay, and I'm sure not only 728 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 1: did the Bengals just wait for people to call be proactive, 729 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 1: aren't reactive? I think they probably picked the phones up 730 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,959 Speaker 1: and targeted some people and tried to see if they 731 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 1: could work work something out. But if if, whoever it is, 732 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 1: you're trying to get them to move up, and they're 733 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: looking at their board just like you are and their song. 734 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: I got three or four guys here I'm comfortable with, 735 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 1: Why should I give you draft capital to move up 736 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 1: to take them when I can sit and still get 737 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 1: one of them. And that's what the Bengals are trying 738 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 1: to do, is you know, move back and accumulate capital 739 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,360 Speaker 1: and still be satisfied with one of them. So it 740 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: just there was never anybody that I guess slid to 741 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 1: the point where, oh my gosh, we had this guy 742 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: you know, evaluated a full round better through where he 743 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 1: is now. So maybe the overall depth of the draft 744 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: was a you know, was a factor in that. But 745 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 1: being the first band out of the gate, know, every round, 746 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 1: let's go, every player they picked, they had evaluated a 747 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: round higher because they had the first pick of the 748 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 1: following round. So it's easy to say, oh, we had 749 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 1: a humor waters a third round value you took up 750 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,240 Speaker 1: in the first pick in the fourth round. It's basically 751 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 1: a third round draft pick. But you know, in some instances, 752 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: I know they had guys you know away up in 753 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 1: that round and maybe even at the end of the 754 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,359 Speaker 1: round before that. And like we talked about before, Dan, 755 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 1: everybody's board is said differently because you know people it's 756 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 1: it's it almost gets humorous to me, and because like 757 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: Zach said, okay, do you draft for need or do 758 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,359 Speaker 1: your draft for best player? And he said, well, it's 759 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,839 Speaker 1: always a combination. And that's why every team's draft board 760 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 1: is different. Every team has different needs. So when you're 761 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 1: evaluating a player, it's like, yeah, boy, this this offensive 762 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 1: tackle is good, and so is this cornerback. But we 763 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 1: have a much bigger needed offensive tackles. He's going to 764 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 1: go up higher on our board than the back. So 765 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,360 Speaker 1: that's why everybody's board is different. You know, when you 766 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,439 Speaker 1: set your board, you've already kind of you know, had 767 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:11,439 Speaker 1: a blend of need and in best player available. So 768 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 1: that's why it kind of tickles me where oh man, 769 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 1: we had this guy evaluated, you know, so much higher, 770 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: and the other team be like, what, yeah, I wasn't 771 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,319 Speaker 1: that that guy up. I didn't have them that high 772 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 1: at all. I had totally different needs. You're running totally 773 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 1: different systems. Um, you know you have to you have 774 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,240 Speaker 1: to basically draft football players that that fit your system. 775 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,239 Speaker 1: It's crazy the draft football players and say, oh, just 776 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 1: because of this one guy, we're going to change what 777 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,839 Speaker 1: we do from the philosophical standpoint now. So you know, 778 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,280 Speaker 1: you set what you're gonna do and try to draft 779 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: players that fit it. And that's why everybody's board's different. 780 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 1: What do you make of the fact that they only 781 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 1: selected one offensive lineman and they didn't choose him until 782 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 1: round six. Yeah, Like, like we talked about earlier, I 783 00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,120 Speaker 1: think they're you know, they're feeling that they've made some 784 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 1: improvements there. You know, I think that, Uh, I do 785 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 1: think that the right tackle is going to be a 786 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:10,320 Speaker 1: free for all. Bobby Hart, you know, Fred Johnson obviously 787 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,800 Speaker 1: is going to be going to be in the mix, 788 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 1: and uh and so will the Keen. There's no there's 789 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Um. So you know that that 790 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 1: that'll be just at the right tackle position, right guard, 791 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,319 Speaker 1: Xavier and Alex will be you know, competing, Uh, Sue 792 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 1: Flow and Alex Redmond will be competing. And you know, 793 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 1: Medie if if it works out where a team it 794 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 1: doesn't doesn't in the mix real strongly attack. He could 795 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 1: kick inside the guard. Um, you know, Trey Hopkins has 796 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 1: Billy Price, and Billy Price can you know play both guards, 797 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 1: So he gives you some depth the all three interior positions. 798 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,280 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan came on. I thought Michael Jordan drew a lot. 799 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 1: I mean, Michael Jordan. He met his match in Pittsburgh 800 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 1: with Cameron Heyward Man. I was a man against a 801 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,400 Speaker 1: boy that day. But Michael Jordan grew. He went the 802 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 1: boy at the end of the season. There's no doubt 803 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,319 Speaker 1: about that that he had a baptism under fire and 804 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 1: he got torched pretty good. But he didn't curl up 805 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,359 Speaker 1: in his fetal position and cry about it, which I 806 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 1: respected the hell out of them. He came back and 807 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,880 Speaker 1: played some pretty good football in the second half of 808 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,320 Speaker 1: the season. Um, Jonah Warren's gonna be interesting to see, 809 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,359 Speaker 1: you know, see what he gives. Damn you know what 810 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,799 Speaker 1: he's capable of. I mean, obviously how they regarded the 811 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 1: eleventh take in the draft. Um, and and that's that's right. 812 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:33,319 Speaker 1: Teams played mostly left tackle, So worst case scenario, he's 813 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 1: got a swing tackle in the team. I say, your prance, 814 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's different and better than what 815 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 1: they had at the start of the season last year 816 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 1: for sure, and then with the scheme change to fit everybody, 817 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 1: I think they're no drafting. The one lineman they did 818 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 1: draft has athletic ability. He has a good seat, you know, 819 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 1: he's not he's not a guy that can't climb to 820 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 1: the second level when they're running inside the outside of it. 821 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,239 Speaker 1: He's he's not a guy that can't can't move when 822 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,239 Speaker 1: they run their pin and pole stuff. So yeah, we'll see. 823 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 1: I would think that they're probably targeting some college free 824 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,759 Speaker 1: agents in terms of the offensive line. Whoever is left 825 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 1: from the Senior Bowl that they worked with down there. 826 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll bring them to camp, you know, and 827 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 1: that they've either met with and studied from the North 828 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:23,320 Speaker 1: or coached from the South. I know Balt get drafted, 829 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,359 Speaker 1: I know Hennessy get drafted. Both of those guys were 830 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 1: down to the Senior Bowl. But I'm not sure about 831 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,880 Speaker 1: how many of the other offensive line we get drafted. 832 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 1: And the fact that they only signed only drafted seven rookies, 833 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,359 Speaker 1: you would think that you might have a few more 834 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,680 Speaker 1: dollars in the budget to go out and get, you know, 835 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 1: an additional college free ason or two but like we 836 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,880 Speaker 1: talked about earlier, with this era of the coronavirus, and 837 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 1: you know, very few oldtas potentially or mini camps or 838 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 1: anything else. And how you're going to evaluate guys, how 839 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,400 Speaker 1: many do you bring in? You know, you made not 840 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,720 Speaker 1: d ninety players this year. It might be a different 841 00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 1: kind of year. It might only needs eighty, might only 842 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 1: needs seventy fives. So all that stuff I'm sure they're 843 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 1: talking about. They've already I know they. I know they've 844 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 1: done a budget, um, you know, for college free agency, 845 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 1: and then they kind of assigned it to different position groups, 846 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 1: and if one physician group has success, you know, the 847 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,879 Speaker 1: other position position group might not get the guy they're 848 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 1: looking forward frees up funds for you know, a third 849 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 1: physian group for whatever. So that's kind of the way 850 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 1: they the way they worked at whoever has the all 851 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 1: the success, whever gets the first guest gets the dough 852 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 1: and then they just go from there. So I'm sure 853 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,720 Speaker 1: they've targeted a couple of offensive lineman and they're probably 854 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 1: on the fallow of them as we speak here. I'm 855 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 1: glad you mentioned Jonah Williams because after our last podcast, 856 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 1: I got a question from somebody on Twitter. That's a 857 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,680 Speaker 1: tough question, but a fair question. You pointed out that 858 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,240 Speaker 1: one of the reasons why Josh Jones from Houston slid 859 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 1: in the NFL draft was that he has short arms. 860 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,440 Speaker 1: His arms are roughly the same length as Jonah Williams. 861 00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 1: Why didn't Jonah slide for the same reason. Bottom line 862 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 1: is he's just an overall, you know, better player with 863 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,319 Speaker 1: his feet, with his power, with everything else that he 864 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 1: could overcome it more than that, more than Jones could. 865 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:15,239 Speaker 1: But um, and we'll see, we'll see if we'll see 866 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,080 Speaker 1: if Jonah wins that that's going to be a problem 867 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:21,239 Speaker 1: for him as well. I will I will say because 868 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 1: I remember experiencing it when you when you're trying to 869 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:28,719 Speaker 1: pass protect against a you know, an octopus and you 870 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,400 Speaker 1: know you don't have those octopus length arms. That's tough. 871 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 1: That's tough. You can try to swat him away from you. 872 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,360 Speaker 1: You know, it's hand to hand combat. But before you 873 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,360 Speaker 1: could use your hands, I had to keep my hands. 874 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,600 Speaker 1: I sist Clenston on my sternum and you know, try 875 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:46,839 Speaker 1: to block the chicken wing elbows. Well, if the old 876 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 1: rings are boodle and these guys have you know, thirty 877 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,919 Speaker 1: six ten charms in there. They could head slap. There's 878 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,280 Speaker 1: swatting your head around their ear hole. You know, they're 879 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 1: popping your ear hole and your helmet. You ear drums 880 00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 1: are popping and bursting. You know, it's like, what the 881 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 1: hell man? And then it might be something else I 882 00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,080 Speaker 1: can do other than this. It was it was brutal, 883 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 1: but then when they allowed you to use your hands 884 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,440 Speaker 1: as an offensive and now you can counter, you know, 885 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,680 Speaker 1: and do some hand to that combat stuff, So you know, 886 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,240 Speaker 1: at all of that comes into play. How could if 887 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,799 Speaker 1: you do have short arms, how good are your hands? Well, 888 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 1: where's your hand placement? How quick are your hands? Uh? 889 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 1: You know, how good are you in that hand to 890 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 1: hand combat? But yeah, it's it's probably that's not the 891 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 1: the only reason that you draft or don't draft a guy. 892 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,120 Speaker 1: But you know, I think it's a tipe aaker? Do 893 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,279 Speaker 1: you think it's a type aaker at times? All right, 894 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,719 Speaker 1: final question. You've been associated with this franchise for more 895 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,440 Speaker 1: than forty years. Do you ever recall a time that 896 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:45,160 Speaker 1: the fan base was so excited about a newcomer as 897 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:49,279 Speaker 1: Bengals fans are about Joe burrow Boy? You know, I 898 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 1: know I know the fans were pumped up when we 899 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,319 Speaker 1: drafted two time Heisman Trophy when Archie Griffin from right 900 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,239 Speaker 1: up the road in Columbus, Ohio. There's no doubt about that. 901 00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,759 Speaker 1: And Archie such a great guy to boot. I mean, 902 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,359 Speaker 1: talk about somebody that, uh, you know, you could put 903 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 1: up on billboards. It could be a face your franchise. 904 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,279 Speaker 1: It wasn't a quarterback that here's the guy that is 905 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:11,600 Speaker 1: the face of your franchise as the quarterback. And he's uh, 906 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,759 Speaker 1: he's he's something special and there's no doubt about it. 907 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,200 Speaker 1: I mean it's this this uh, this community is fired up. 908 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,719 Speaker 1: This region should be fired up, and I think it 909 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,800 Speaker 1: is fired up. I think I do think that this uh, 910 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,480 Speaker 1: this guy's going to do some some very special things. Um. 911 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 1: You know, when you drafted first first pick of the draft, 912 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,719 Speaker 1: it was a Heisman Trophy went to Carson Palmer. But 913 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,839 Speaker 1: he's excited about obviously, and he had had some good 914 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,840 Speaker 1: years for the Bengals. But man, Joe Burrow, uh, but Carson, 915 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,520 Speaker 1: who was a California guy, and Carson, you know, made 916 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:46,000 Speaker 1: it made it known that he didn't wasn't sure if 917 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 1: he and his wife fit in the Midwest, you know, 918 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,720 Speaker 1: as easily as as people wanted it to to take place. 919 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, he couldn't wait to get back 920 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 1: out to Little to the West Coast as quickly as 921 00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:00,279 Speaker 1: he possibly could. Borrow's coming home. This is this is 922 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,480 Speaker 1: where it's at for Joe Burrow. I mean, his family is. 923 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,239 Speaker 1: He's so excited about being able to go home and 924 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,440 Speaker 1: have a home cooked meal with his parents and his 925 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 1: girlfriend lives right here in Mason, Ohio and her family. 926 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:15,799 Speaker 1: Talk about a support system, you know, sometimes two two 927 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 1: yard drive away, all of his friends, family, supporters. I mean, 928 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 1: he's got he's got a heck of a support system 929 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:28,400 Speaker 1: going there. And I admire him for you know, he 930 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,360 Speaker 1: went to Columbus, wanted to stay. Look, but then go 931 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,080 Speaker 1: down to LSU and do what he did. It shows 932 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,360 Speaker 1: you a lot, shows you a lot. Now now he 933 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,879 Speaker 1: can be back home again and a guy that won 934 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:43,360 Speaker 1: the Heisman Trophy, the National Championship. First pick of the draft, 935 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,279 Speaker 1: and believe me, every player that has a chance to 936 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 1: be the first pick in the draft, you want to 937 00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,160 Speaker 1: compete and get that bad boy and the records he said, 938 00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,480 Speaker 1: might be a while before they're broke and sixty touchdown passes, 939 00:49:55,520 --> 00:50:01,040 Speaker 1: accounting for sixty five total touchdown ridiculous, cartoonish, it's crazy. 940 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,280 Speaker 1: Let's see if he can set some in the NFL. 941 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,520 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I'd love to see him. You know, 942 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,000 Speaker 1: I do think you know I don't. I don't want 943 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:15,400 Speaker 1: to set like ridiculous expectations to Joe Burrow. But I 944 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:19,600 Speaker 1: don't know. Dan. You know, Joe Burrow, Joe Mixon, they could, 945 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,160 Speaker 1: they could compliment each other so well, one hand washed 946 00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:25,560 Speaker 1: the other. It's the Joe Show, the Joe Show, Joe Burrow, 947 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,520 Speaker 1: Joe Mixon. Let's get the Joe Show started. 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