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Speaker 2: O Joe, Let's get off. Oh not kind of the

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Speaker 2: Six six massage therapists have a q's Ravens kicker Justin

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Speaker 2: Tucker has denied allegations, which spanned his first five seasons

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Speaker 5: Well listen, obviously when that many accusers come forward with

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Speaker 2: Yeah, uh look, I'm gonna be.

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Speaker 3: Like I was when the IF guys.

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Speaker 2: You guys remember when I was on Undisputed and we

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Speaker 3: Opinion of said individual one.

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Speaker 2: But there the gravity I think is what five or

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Speaker 3: And at this point in time, that's all there are.

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Speaker 2: Allegations, aren't facts, but there are allegations. They have been

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Speaker 2: alleged that there he's been inappropriate at some point in time.

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Speaker 3: I rather reading something.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he rubs his genitalia, maybe there's some inappropriate touching. Also,

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Speaker 2: I think the report said that he had been banned

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Speaker 2: As you mentioned earlier, is that one, two, three, four,

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Speaker 2: five in their allegings, very similar allegations. And that's where

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Speaker 2: that Justin Tuer Tucker at this point in time, deserves

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Speaker 3: He deserves to be heard.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's gonna be civilly, I don't

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Speaker 2: these are just allegations, O Joe. None of these women

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Speaker 2: we let's let's let's just let it play out. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: the NFL is gonna have to do their due diligence

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Speaker 3: It's not a good look. This is not something the

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Speaker 2: Obviously, we as a society need to do a better

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Speaker 2: they's to be proven. But I think Justin Tucker deserves

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Speaker 3: What is criminal or civil?

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Speaker 2: It's justoe when there's so many, When it's so many,

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Speaker 2: Four or five women have alleged that Justin Tucker at

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Speaker 5: Right, that's a pattern too, if you think about it,

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Speaker 5: now that's it. Now, that's different. That's different. Everybody. Everybody

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Speaker 5: there's an issue. There lies there despite you saying, you know,

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Speaker 5: But if it's happening multiple times and multiple people all

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Speaker 2: Like I said, I I just like I wanted to

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Speaker 2: play out whatever whatever transpires. Give him his day in court,

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Speaker 2: be it civil or criminal. Let an investigation take place.

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Speaker 2: I say, now that it's out, who knows that there

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Speaker 2: was an investigation that was taking place, Like you said,

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Speaker 2: maybe that has something to do with the the the

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Speaker 3: Maybe this has been brewing.

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Speaker 2: Maybe of the investigation, they had talked to him at

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Speaker 2: Know it's saying for certain until that's the case, but

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Speaker 2: I think this is what said. Several therapists said Tucker's

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Speaker 2: behavior was so egregious that they ended his sessions early

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Speaker 2: and to your point, a lot of times when you

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Speaker 2: That's what we know at this point in time, Ojoe.

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Speaker 3: That's what's being reported.

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Speaker 2: That's not Uncan o'choe making these allegations up, Uncle o'joe

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Speaker 2: I think it's only fair that we give this the coverage.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, listen, just just from what you read. I mean,

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Speaker 3: You know, all right, Well, we're gonna leave it at that.

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Speaker 2: you can take. Schottenheimer was able to negotiate a four

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Speaker 3: Money? What matter? Right?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Mike McCarthy wanted a five year deal. Jerry wanted

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Speaker 2: If I get a five Oh, Joe, if you say

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Speaker 2: I'll give you a three year deal till considering Mike

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Speaker 3: With the head coach, yes, the officer.

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Speaker 5: What you're telling me is you don't believe in me

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Speaker 5: You know we don't see value in you. Okay, you

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Speaker 5: if you feel, Mike McCarthy get the job done, you

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Speaker 5: want to what three four five, It don't matter what

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Speaker 5: basically letting me know. Jerry doesn't even feel confident enough

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Speaker 5: I ain't paying him anyway because I don't think we

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Speaker 2: Why I need to be paying to be paying the

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Speaker 2: It's the Cowboys. But that's another problems, that's always been

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Speaker 2: everybody is saying, and Jerry is said, he doesn't feel

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Speaker 2: That's how he feels He's made that abundantly clear.

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Speaker 5: It's not working out. You can and you can't live

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Speaker 5: I've scored three testdowns in one game. That's all it is.

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Speaker 5: You won super Bowls back in the nineties. It's twenty

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Speaker 5: I feel sorry for the fans. I feel sorry for

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Speaker 2: Change comes about two different ways. Someone wants to change

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Speaker 5: Well, you're not forcing him. That ain't happening. You're not

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Speaker 5: why would I change anything.

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Speaker 2: I'm still of the most comfitable franchise in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: You want to win, You want to win?

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Speaker 3: What do I what if I get? If I win?

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Speaker 3: I'm making three hundred million. Now you tell me if

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Speaker 5: Absolutely everything increased. If your brand is already what your

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Speaker 3: The mess your question, are the Chiefs? Are the Chiefs

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Speaker 5: Doesn't he even with the winning, even with the winning, though,

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Speaker 3: I guess who else knows that? Jerry?

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Speaker 2: So he said, even if I don't win, my brand

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Speaker 5: I see what you mean. I say that to me,

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Speaker 5: seeing how I see how Harry Roseman does this. Okay,

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Speaker 2: But here's the thing, oh Joe, if I pay top dollar,

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Speaker 3: That's that's it. I want to spend less while making more.

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Speaker 5: That doesn't work in football. Huh, that doesn't work in football.

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Speaker 3: You think about winning.

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Speaker 5: It happens every so often in baseball, you know that, right, Yes,

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Speaker 2: You get the Cassas City Royals to get it, or

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Speaker 2: a to Ojoe, you go get a team like you said,

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Speaker 2: But in business, costs, profit margins, right, I need I

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Speaker 2: all these other coaches. Remember it's reported that Jerry wanted

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00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 2: to cut some of the coaching staff because I want

438
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 2: profit margins to be high. That's how businesses operate, Jerry,

439
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 2: And you would think, man, but here's the thing you

440
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,400
Speaker 2: want to Like, I want to be in a situation

441
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 2: where I can win a championship. Jerry has foregone back.

442
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 2: Jerry does not want to win a championship.

443
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 3: He does.

444
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 2: Let me take that back. Jerry wants to win, but

445
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 2: I want to win my weight. See, I would rather

446
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:33,880
Speaker 2: lose my weight than win somebody else's right, you see, yo, Joe.

447
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 3: So that's what Jerry is with his thinking.

448
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 2: He's like, oh, Joe, understand, why pay a coach ten million,

449
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 2: fifteen million when I can pay one five million, because

450
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 2: I know there's only one of thirty two. He's very

451
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 2: fortunate to have this opportunity. I'm gonna make three hundred million.

452
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 2: Whether I got a five million dollar coach or I

453
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 2: got a twenty million dollar coach, that does not change.

454
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 5: Jerry Jones is operating with outdated software in a new

455
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 5: era and a new age. Yes, everybody else, everybody else

456
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 5: on iPhones and Jerry using the Beeper, Yeah, everybody else

457
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 5: using the Android. Then if all the other owners using

458
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 5: the Android, you mean the iPhone. I'm just saying I'm

459
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 5: an Android iPhone. I was using using another analogy, Okay,

460
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 5: Jerry using the Sidekick, Yeah, outdated. Everything he's doing is outdated. Yes,

461
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 5: and the results are showing up year in the year out.

462
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 5: Matter of fact, the results have been the same for

463
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 5: the past what seven years.

464
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,360
Speaker 2: Oh, look at the business model with Chick fil Aid,

465
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 2: Whether they're at a stadium, whether they're in an airport.

466
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 2: What is the one thing that happens. They're closed on Sunday.

467
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,239
Speaker 2: They don't lose any more. Bid The people like, well,

468
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 2: if y'all not gonna open on Sunday, I ain't gonna

469
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 2: come on Saturday.

470
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 5: Honestly, shouldn't nobody beating Chick fil a anyway.

471
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 2: I don't know what that you're beating, but I'm just

472
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 2: trying to give you the I'm just trying to give

473
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 2: you an example. So Jerry is saying, ah, huh uh

474
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 2: uh uh. Jerry wants to win his way. I would

475
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:27,199
Speaker 2: rather lose my way than win someone else's. Oh how

476
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:31,120
Speaker 2: many time we see that? Yeah, let's see that the relationship.

477
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 2: You know what you need to do to save it,

478
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 2: but to somebody else, somebody else recommended that. That's not

479
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 2: my original idea. That's not my thought. So since I

480
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 2: didn't come up with it, the hell with it. That's

481
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 2: what Jerry is saying. Jared's felt this way. Everybody knows it.

482
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 2: Jerry even knows it. That's why he fined Jimmy. He

483
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 2: had somebody getting all this credit, Like he said, he

484
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 2: bought this occupation. Can't tell me how to do. How

485
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 2: you gonna pay all that money for a house and

486
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 2: be oh shore, somebody tell you if you stack boxes

487
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 2: up for your house?

488
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 3: This my ish.

489
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 2: How you gonna tell me? Come on, o, Joe, take

490
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 2: the trash out, Come on, o yo. Don't wear your

491
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 2: shoes in the house. Come on, old Joe, couldn't Dick

492
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 2: get the dishes out of sing? Come on, oh Joe,

493
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 2: now you know better? You mean like, who talk those hiss?

494
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 2: Who's working all these jobs? Who's running from pillow the pole?

495
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 5: Hell?

496
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 2: You? And you think you're gonna tell me? So Jerry said,

497
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 2: who bout this team? Who worked this best? That's how

498
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 2: he thinks, And unfortunately he's not gonna win because of it,

499
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 2: because he thinks he knows. See, Jerry doesn't see. Jerry

500
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 2: is under the premise he's the smartest guy in the room,

501
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 2: and nobody's gonna tell him if he if he's the

502
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 2: smartest guy in the room, then he's the wrong room.

503
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, the wrong room. I built the room though, O Joe,

504
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 3: how build the room? Don't joke?

505
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 5: That's a good one.

506
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 2: And that's the thing you and I under there. I'm

507
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 2: under the operation. I can go somewhere A I don't

508
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 2: want to be the smartest guy. I need somebody to

509
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 2: be able to protect my blind spots. I don't know

510
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 2: how you operate a car with no mirrors. There's one

511
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 2: rear view side. There's a reason they protect your blind

512
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 2: spots because if you have to do this all the time.

513
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 2: You might slam in the back of somebody, but if

514
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 2: you look at it, take a click, clip, a quick glance,

515
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 2: or you look at the side. Damn, somebody cluck. Can't

516
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 2: get over there right now because now they got the

517
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 2: sensor you see in your mirror. Oh, can't do that.

518
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 2: Somebody's right there. But that's not how Jerry operates. Jerry's

519
00:28:55,600 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 2: had monetary success. When Ry purchased the team, Oh Joe,

520
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 2: he wasn't a billionaire. Now now he's many many times

521
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 2: over that. Man, Oh man, it's hard to tell somebody

522
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 2: something different when they've had success doing it that way.

523
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 3: Right, How you tell somebody?

524
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 2: How you tell somebody girl you need to start a

525
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 2: young lady making three hundred thousand a year they had

526
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 2: exotic dancer, or somebody making two three million dollars a

527
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 2: year only fans.

528
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 3: How you get them to stop? O your.

529
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 5: Rug?

530
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, that life good. That's exactly right. So

531
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 2: you have a problem with him not pay or him

532
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 2: trying to always undermine his coaches. What's your what's OHO's

533
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 2: biggest issue with Jerry Jones?

534
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 5: But just undermining undermining obviously, listen, when it's time to

535
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 5: play when it's time to play the players. You already

536
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 5: played the players late. You play them late. They missed

537
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 5: training camp, they missed mini camp. They always come in

538
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 5: two weeks before the season getting ready to start. You know,

539
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 5: fortunate enough, Sea Lamb didn't get hurt until later on

540
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 5: in the season when it was time for that to

541
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 5: get paid. You waited for Dak when it's time for

542
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 5: Ezekiel Elliott to get paid. He and Cabo working on

543
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 5: in Cabo in the goddamn saying, instead of being in

544
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 5: training camp getting ready for the season with his teammates.

545
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 5: Everything is always long and drawn out to keep the

546
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 5: attention focused on the Cowboys. If you're serious about winning,

547
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 5: if you're serious about competing, especially for a Lombardi Trophy,

548
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 5: which you haven't shown in what thirty something years, would

549
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 5: have a long it's been, you know, And why do

550
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 5: you think Michael Parsons came out and said what he

551
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 5: said in the middle of the season, or maybe sometime

552
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 5: towards the end of the season. Let's get us, let's

553
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 5: get something to the to the fact that getting paid early,

554
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 5: so I get this, Let's get it done so I

555
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 5: could be at everything. You know, that's that's letting you know,

556
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 5: the players shouldn't have to say that. The players shouldn't

557
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 5: have to be one saying that you should be the

558
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 5: one to take owners and want to have everybody and

559
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 5: if you're serious about competing or trying to win or

560
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 5: changing and making sure this season coming up that looked

561
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 5: like last season. I mean that that that's all. And

562
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 5: then you know, undermining the coaches, and it's it's, it's,

563
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 5: it's it's ridiculous. I want him to run the business.

564
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 5: I wanted to make his money. But the Cowboys fans,

565
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 5: they deserve it. The players deserve it for him to

566
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 5: run it like the Hunts, for him to run that show,

567
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 5: like the Rooneys, for him to run that show. Like,

568
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 5: but who owns the Hunts, the Rooney's, the Chiefs, Steelers?

569
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 2: Oh okay, hold on, hold on, Like how we Jeffrey Lower,

570
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Lorie owns the Eagles?

571
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 3: But Howie Rose, Oh Joe? Do people realize do you.

572
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 5: See how they run that that ship over that man?

573
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 5: Think about three years? How many times jen Jenen two times?

574
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 5: They've been to football twice in three years. Twice in

575
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 5: three years, uh twice in three years. Look at how

576
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 5: they navigate and operate everything, getting the players they need understanding.

577
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 5: Matter of fact, the team is young. Yeah, the team

578
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 5: was all the first time he went to the Super Bowl,

579
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 5: it looked like almost everybody's gone. Almost everybody's gone. The

580
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 5: defense is completely revamped, and they right back again. They

581
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 5: right back again.

582
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: For a reason, Yep says, it starts at the top

583
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: and it trickles on down. It starts with Jerry Jelli.

584
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: The way he operates, it's gonna always be the same.

585
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 2: But Jerry can't admit he would when he's wrong. You see, Joe,

586
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 2: You remember when Chip Kelly came, Jeffrey Lourie demoted Howie

587
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 2: Roseman turned everything over the Chip. A couple of years,

588
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 2: he gets rid of Chip. Bring Howie's bring Howie Roseman back.

589
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 2: Admitted he made a mistake. Yeah, now look at it.

590
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 2: Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis, Nikobe Dean uh will uh uh

591
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 2: uh uh the the defensive end from Georgia sa Kwan

592
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 2: drafting uh. Jalen hurts when you just gave all that

593
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 2: money to Carson Wentz, Davonta Smith, A J. Brown re

594
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 2: signed Lane Johnson, Landon Dixon. Myle Lotta, that's not an accident,

595
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 2: Oh Joe. Then let they let Gardner Johnson go, They

596
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 2: bring him back to Cooper, to John Mitchell, blanket ship.

597
00:33:54,840 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 2: That's not an accident, Jered it. Never admit he's wrong.

598
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 2: He'll never admit that he was wrong in firing Jimmy Never.

599
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 2: But it is what it is now. Bill's general manager

600
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 2: Brandon Bean says he still believes Josh Allen converted on

601
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: fourth down and nothing has changed his mind even after

602
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 2: speaking with the league.

603
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 3: Let's take a listen to the sound. It's frustrating.

604
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 6: You know, there's only so much I can say, you know,

605
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 6: I don't you know. We work with the league to

606
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 6: try to get clarity, and and I'll give them credit,

607
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 6: they've they've taken our calls, They've sent video and things

608
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 6: like that. I just, you know, I wish, you know,

609
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 6: if you're talking about like the fourth down play that was,

610
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 6: you know, I'm I.

611
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 3: Feel like he you know, he got that. And I

612
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 3: still feel like he got that.

613
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 6: I felt that in the moment, and I know nothing

614
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 6: has changed my mind on that.

615
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 3: Oh Joe, Yes, sir, will this be the play?

616
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 2: At some point in time, the Bill's going to have

617
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 2: to move on, just like they moved on from wide

618
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 2: right and buffet and that first Super Bowl. At some point,

619
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 2: there's nothing that he can do. They didn't feel he

620
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 2: got it. Now everybody want to come out of all

621
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 2: this technology and all of this Look, they keep making

622
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 2: rules for the Bills. I remember when Patrick Mahomes did

623
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,280
Speaker 2: not touch the foot fall in overtime.

624
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 3: They didn't change the rules. Mm hm, it happens.

625
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 2: What about change the plate, Hey, Josh, instead of going left,

626
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 2: go right, instead of trying to Josh, do this eight

627
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 2: hand them all up to the running back. Can you

628
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 2: do something other than the same play six times? Okay,

629
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 2: my bad? Four times?

630
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 5: Right?

631
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 3: Remember you got stuffed on the gold line. Remember they

632
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 3: tried it on the gold line? You got stopped.

633
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know it's funny the Bills. I might be

634
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 5: a little off on the stat Josh Allen. I think

635
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 5: he ran it quarterback sneak during the regular season. If

636
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 5: I'm not mistaken, he might have been and the totality

637
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 5: for the whole season. I could be wrong. Chat stay

638
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 5: with me and someone could correct me in the chat.

639
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 5: I think they they got all of them, Josh Allen

640
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 5: quarterback runs, scripted runs and got a first down except two.

641
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 3: They only even stopped two times, and was championship game.

642
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 5: That's the two times of all times when you get stopped,

643
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 5: the only team to stop him twice after having so

644
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 5: much success about the entire end of the season, nobody

645
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 5: was able to stop you. The two times you get

646
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 5: stopped is goddamn Kansas City Chiefs and the most important

647
00:36:58,640 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 5: goddamn game.

648
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 3: Mhm.

649
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 5: And he would have had the first down if the

650
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 5: ball wasn't at his chest, Yes, at his chest, because

651
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 5: if he extended it, oh that, but he knocking that

652
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,439
Speaker 5: ball out for sure. He couldn't extend it because he's

653
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:18,479
Speaker 5: in the trenches. You wasn't. You weren't past a stick.

654
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 5: He wasn't past a stick. They showed every angle they

655
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 5: could possibly see. They did every angle. He wasn't past it,

656
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 5: but he couldn't. If he was able to extend the ball,

657
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 5: he would have had it. But he couldn't because you know,

658
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 5: if he put it out, that ball was coming out

659
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 5: absolutely about all them damn lines right there and here.

660
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 2: And the call on the field, the official, the mark

661
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 2: that they went with.

662
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 3: He marked him short.

663
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 2: Now had he given him the first down, there was

664
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 2: nothing to indicate he didn't have it.

665
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 3: I don't know.

666
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 2: And that's the thing. More time than not, they go

667
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 2: with it unless it's egregious. People like well, the gall

668
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 2: on the far side, the guy really all those bodies,

669
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 2: he can't see what that ball is.

670
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 3: The guy that is right here on the side. Joe,

671
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 3: Oh Joe, he luck it right, gonna ladah luck it? Yeah,

672
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 3: look at you like this right down the barrel.

673
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 5: You know, you know what, I can say that, and

674
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 5: and I want to I'm thinking about this. I think

675
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 5: about the nineties, right m Think about George Uh, think

676
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 5: about the Bulls, You think about the Celtics, think about

677
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 5: the Lakers. Think about the run of New York Yankees had.

678
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 5: You think about the run Tom Brady and Bill Belichick

679
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 5: had in that AFC. Right now, the Chiefs are going

680
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 5: to always being contingent. But at what point were Lamar,

681
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 5: Joe Burrow or Josh Allen had their Roethlisberger moment or

682
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 5: their Joe Flacco moment. You get where I'm going with this. Yeah,

683
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 5: because it was it was always dominated by Brady. Yes,

684
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 5: but then those years, oh shit, Flocko finally got one,

685
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 5: Oh shit, Ben Rothlisberger finally got one. At some point

686
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 5: in the next decade. Josh Sallen's gonna win a super

687
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 5: Bowl at some point. Joe Burrow's gonna win a super

688
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 5: Bowl at some point. I don't know when. When you slay,

689
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 5: when you slay the beast, that is the Kansas City

690
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 5: chiefs Lamar Jackson will get a super Bowl. And just

691
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 5: at what, at what point in what year will have happened?

692
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 5: Because the chiefs Andy Reid and Patch Mahomes ain't going nowhere,

693
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 5: And just at what time are they going to have

694
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 5: that Ben Broethlisberger or that Joe flacko moment where this

695
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 5: is their year?

696
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 3: But if you go back and look at that, somebody

697
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 3: knocked Tom off, only Joe Flack obeating when Tom lost,

698
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 3: that Hate Manning beating when Ben Roethlisberger won him, Joe,

699
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 3: Jake Plumber, not that big band.

700
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 5: So who's up who?

701
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 2: Now? We saw Joe do it one time, we saw

702
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 2: Tom do it, and we saw Joe do it normally.

703
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 2: What's gonna what happens? More time than not? They went

704
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 2: to If I'm not mistaken, the Patriots went to thirteen

705
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,240
Speaker 2: AFC title games.

706
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 5: That's crazy.

707
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 2: They lost four. Baltimore beat him once, Denver beat him twice,

708
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 2: and to beat him once. So Peyton beat him three times,

709
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco beat him once. The other nine times they

710
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 2: didn't get him. Yeah, so somebody, somebody had to knock

711
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 2: him off in order for you to get for you

712
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 2: to get there, somebody had so all that stuff to

713
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 2: beat the man. You gotta beat the man. Now, I

714
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 2: beat the man. To beat the man. If I need

715
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 2: you to help that, there's go ahead. It's gonna be

716
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 2: an interesting decade.

717
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes is only twenty eight, twenty nine, I'm not mistaken,

718
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 5: twenty nine. He's going to play the decade. Yes, Lamar

719
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 5: will be there, Josh Allen will be there, Joe Burrow

720
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 5: will be there. At some point, somebody can have to

721
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 5: slay the dragon. The NFC, the NFC a A. The

722
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 5: NFC is not quarterback.

723
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean it's some good quarterbacks, but they

724
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 2: they ain't got no Mahomes.

725
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 5: You know, they don't have a four headed munster like

726
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 5: the goddamn AFC.

727
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 3: No, for sure, absolutely not.

728
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 5: They have. They have good quarterbacks. Now, I'm not saying

729
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 5: they don't have quarterbacks. I'm saying they don't have the

730
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 5: four headed muscles like they do in the AFC. I

731
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 5: don't know. I'm it's gonna be an interesting, interesting decade.

732
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 5: But they're gonna get there. Josh Allen's gonna get one.

733
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson is gonna get one. Joe Burrow is gonna

734
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 5: get one. It's just all about when. I don't know when,

735
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 5: because Mahomes and Andy Reeden ain't going nowhere. What happens

736
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 5: every year you got the draft, you got off off

737
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 5: season acquisitions, every team continues to get better. Well, hell,

738
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 5: the same thing happened with Bill and Tomas together. Every

739
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 5: other team was also getting better. But as long as

740
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 5: that goddamn centerpiece was always there in place good, that's

741
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 5: the joker. Long as long as fifteen is there, they

742
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 5: gonna be good.

743
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 3: I don't know.

744
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 2: That's tough, man, because when you look at it, not

745
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 2: a whole lot of not a whole lot of guys won.

746
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 2: I mean Tom in the AFC. I mean you gotta

747
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 2: think about how many Toms went. Tom was in the

748
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 2: AFC for twenty years, thirteen times.

749
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 3: He's in the AFC Championship Game thirteen.

750
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 5: You know, it's funny again, And when we're talking about

751
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 5: those numbers, people look at it and say, oh, it's

752
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 5: Tom Brady or it's the Patriots. Oh that's normal. I

753
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 5: don't think people understand how difficult that is. Yeah, I

754
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 5: don't think they understand how difficult it is for them

755
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 5: to dominate the AFC East continually, year in and year out,

756
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 5: no matter what happened, no matter what happened, no matter

757
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 5: what the Dolphins did, no matter what the Jets did,

758
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,479
Speaker 5: no matter what Buffalo did. They dominated the AFC East

759
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 5: every gay damn year.

760
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 2: Yeah. But if you go back and look look at

761
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 2: it for like, think about it, the Patriots all those

762
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,919
Speaker 2: years there was in the AFC Championship. Now they didn't win,

763
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 2: They lost to Baltimore, they lost to the Broncos, and

764
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 2: then they go and then they lose to the Broncos,

765
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 2: and it's the Patriots and the Patriots, and.

766
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 3: Then it's been the Chiefs.

767
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, so one of the either the Patriots for like

768
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 2: maybe fifteen years, don't Joe, it's either been the Patriots

769
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 2: or the Chiefs in the AFC Championship game. One of

770
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 2: those t teams have been in the AFC Championship Game,

771
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 2: right man, A, I know it seems like, hey, they

772
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 2: gonna win one, ain't no gay. They said that same

773
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,479
Speaker 2: thing about Philip rivers he gonna get one, he gonna

774
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 2: get one, he ain't get one.

775
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

776
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 2: A lot of things, man, A lot of things gotta

777
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: go right. It's a long season, long andjuries. You got

778
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 2: to board the injuries. I mean, think about it. They

779
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 2: just got Hollywood back. Examber Worthy stepped up when she

780
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 2: Rice went out. They lose the checko. But Kareem Hunt

781
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 2: started out in that system wasn't available.

782
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 3: He comes in.

783
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 2: Think about what they drafted left tackle. Both of them failed.

784
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 2: They say, Joe, bro we know you all start, you

785
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 2: know you're all pro left guard? Can you kick out

786
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 2: the tackle? He goes to tackle. Boom solidifies it. A

787
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 2: lot of things gotta go with. The defense has been

788
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 2: solid all year, coming up with time to play, sacks,

789
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 2: batted down balls, turnovers, and now you're getting the offense

790
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 2: start to turn a little bit. Oh, Joe, do you

791
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 2: realize Sunday was the first time the Chiefs scored thirty

792
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 2: points some more?

793
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 3: Yeah?

794
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, they haven't been the offen de jugger out where

795
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 5: used to seeing before. They're very much, very methodical. They

796
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 5: are lawyer to sleep. What they do dunking or digging

797
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 5: and dunking all the way down in the field. Ain't

798
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 5: that many big plays happening like it was when the

799
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 5: Tarif was there?

800
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 3: Can you can you get done what you need to

801
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 3: get done when you absolutely got to have it?

802
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 6: Have it?

803
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 3: They needed thirty, they needed thirty, They got it.

804
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,479
Speaker 2: Cause that's the market of I don't care how great

805
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 2: your offense is, how great your defense is. If your

806
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 2: defense is great, can you get off the field? Can

807
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 2: you get a stop when you absolutely got to have it?

808
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 2: If your office is what you believe it is. We

809
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 2: scored thirty plus points, we led in third down conversion?

810
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 3: Can you get in field goal range? Can you get

811
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 3: a touchdown?

812
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 2: Can you stay on the field when you absolutely have to,

813
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 2: because if you can't, it doesn't matter what you finished

814
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 2: in the regular season, because we throw all those stats

815
00:45:55,560 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 2: out right now that you gotta have it. And for

816
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 2: the most part, when the Chiefs need a play, go

817
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 2: back and look at Patrick Mahomes when he needs a play,

818
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 2: he needs the ball is in my hands and I

819
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 2: need to go get a field goal to tie. I

820
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 2: need a field goal to win it, or I need

821
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 2: to touch down the tide, or I need to touch

822
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 2: down to win it. Go check how many times and

823
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 2: see he's fails, You're gonna be surprised.

824
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, O Joe.

825
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,240
Speaker 2: Troy Aignan says, the NFL owes its fans who gamble

826
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,720
Speaker 2: on football to make sure the refs make the right company.

827
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 2: Now all of a sudden, oh, the right calls. His

828
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 2: money is on the table now, all of a sudden,

829
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 2: Troy wanted the ref to be perfect. So so now,

830
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 2: O Joe, since he's away from the game, make the

831
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 2: ref be Troy, were they perfect when you played? Mm hmm,

832
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 2: bro Yo, need to stop. There's a lot of money

833
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 2: that's changing hands with these calls. I think we owe

834
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 2: it to the fans job that we get it right

835
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 2: and think that we're at the point where sometimes we can.

836
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 3: So we're gonna get every call right. You know what?

837
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 5: I like that you just said there. Uh, technology is

838
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,919
Speaker 5: so advanced we shouldn't get no damn calls wrong?

839
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 3: Yes, and so what about the holding? What about the

840
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 3: holding calls? They don't got?

841
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 5: They got they got two million god damn cameras in

842
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 5: the stadium on game day, every angle you could think of,

843
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 5: every anger you could think of.

844
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 2: The games long enough for Joe. I don't want no

845
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 2: for our game court you're gonna get so when you want,

846
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 2: you want, you want to stop and make everything.

847
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 3: How long you make the game is gonna last.

848
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,919
Speaker 2: You're right, But I'm just saying, think about think about

849
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 2: when they go when they challenge something, O Joe. Think

850
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 2: about when you challenge something, how long it take them

851
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 2: they go to commercial. At least they don't get they

852
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 2: don't get at least three of them free commercial off.

853
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, and now you know, you know what we can

854
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 5: do right, what we can put it. We can put

855
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 5: a timer to shorten those goddamn calls, or put a

856
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 5: time on the reft. You got this amount of time

857
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 5: to go to review it and get back on the

858
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 5: field to keep the game going, keep the momentum going.

859
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 3: He said.

860
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 5: We just think, just thinking about it, we have I mean, dude,

861
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 5: we are so far advanced from a from from a

862
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 5: tech a technical lot, technical lot, Wait a minute, technological standpoint,

863
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 5: technical standpoint. There should there should be no no call

864
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 5: should be wrong now obviously from the naked eye at

865
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 5: fast speed or fast tempo, sometimes the rest can get

866
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 5: it wrong. Sometimes the rest can get it wrong, you know,

867
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 5: sometimes referen the passes, you know, and and if that

868
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 5: will Anderson hit on Pat mahme. But Pat, you know

869
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 5: that's got h'm I don't think that was. I don't

870
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 5: think that was Roughs in the past.

871
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 3: Huh it was.

872
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 5: You know that that was the chess plate. That's the

873
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 5: chess plate.

874
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,959
Speaker 2: But but if we think for one second that every

875
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 2: official in every sport is gonna get every call right,

876
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 2: we're just apossible. And guys and perathletes that have played

877
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 2: the game, they're delusional because now they're pandering. Troy knows

878
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 2: damn well, people gambled on the game when he played.

879
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 2: They didn't get every call right. It's impossible. There's no

880
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 2: such thing as we got. Guess what, we got every

881
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 2: call right in the game. I guarantee you their calls

882
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 2: that we was like, man, that was a very well

883
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 2: officiated game. The NFL to go back and says, you

884
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 2: missed that holding call, you missed that tripping, you missed

885
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 2: that face mask. It happens now because you know what

886
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 2: it is now, Josh Allen, their fan favorite, didn't get

887
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 2: the gold.

888
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,280
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahold's going again.

889
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 5: Naely, Yeah, listen, I know we know we had Bill's

890
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,919
Speaker 5: fans there, y'all here coming. You ain't got to worry about.

891
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 5: It's just about win. It's coming, Lamar fans, your year

892
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 5: is coming. Bengals fans will be back. It's just it's

893
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 5: just a matter of time of win.

894
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 3: Just a matter of time.

895
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 5: And another thing also with the rest too, of the

896
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 5: rest want to get want the risks. Want to get

897
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 5: the calls right. You know, chat people, the people that

898
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 5: are watching, people that are listening. The rest want to

899
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 5: get the call right because you know, as a group,

900
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 5: you know why the rest want to get the highest

901
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 5: grade possible because the.

902
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 3: Game then go.

903
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 5: You know all that the rest are grated. They want

904
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 5: to work those playoff games. They want to work the

905
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 5: Super Bowl game. You know, the better their grades are.

906
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 5: As far as it goes from getting making the right

907
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,399
Speaker 5: call to see in the right calls. How they get

908
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 5: opportunities to make some money in.

909
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 3: The playoffs.

910
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 2: Since those since those people bet a lot of money,

911
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 2: they deserve that these players don't make mistakes, that the

912
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:06,240
Speaker 2: quarterback doesn't throw interceptions, that the roy receivers and running

913
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 2: back to the quarterback don't fumble the football, and the

914
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 2: DB's and everybody don't get passing the peers. Since we're

915
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 2: going for perfection, why not how the players have perfection.

916
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 2: I just hate this pandering because I've seen I've seen

917
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 2: a lot of I see a lot of people. Now

918
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,959
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, oh, poor Josh. Oh, I feel

919
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 2: so bad for him, when they never felt bad for

920
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 2: any other quarterback that I ain't hear nobody say it,

921
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 2: but I feel so bad for Peyton Manning. I feel

922
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 2: so bad for Steve McNair that he he just keep

923
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 2: he just keeps coming up short. And all these guys,

924
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 2: look at Jim Kelly went and lost four times. Ain't

925
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 2: nobody fee feel sorry for Jim Johnny all way with

926
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 2: and got if I be in it, ain't nobody feel sorry?

927
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,720
Speaker 3: Now all of a sudden we're feeling sorry for Josh Allen.

928
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 2: Wow. And now now we're getting guys. Oh, I want

929
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 2: to see the NFL. I want to see these roughs

930
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 2: getting called right. So they're gonna get so they're gonna

931
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:09,720
Speaker 2: get every call right. Hey man, stop all that panduring.

932
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 2: It's okay, NFL do the best they possibly can. It's

933
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 2: not I look, I get this the script. They done

934
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 2: have this script. Then oh, look at the color. Look

935
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 2: at the colors of the Super Bowl. They read, bro,

936
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 2: they don't put these colors in. Man, y'all know how

937
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 2: long it mays. Do you understand the undertaking that it

938
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 2: takes to do something on the scale of the Super Bowl, Oh.

939
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 3: Joe, do people have any idea?

940
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, people understand the idea of what it takes for

941
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 2: us just to do our little show, to go from

942
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 2: state let alone, get that thousand hotel rooms, get the teams.

943
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 2: Point at the point, bat Man. They need to stop this. Man,

944
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 2: I just I just hate this panduring. I just hate this.

945
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 2: This this this pretty party for Josh Allen. It's happening,

946
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 2: Josh Allen. If Josh Allen don't win, ain't nobody say? Oh,

947
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:07,919
Speaker 2: I feel sorry for Damn Marino? Who's sorry for today?

948
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: Troy?

949
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 2: I never heard Troy. But they need to get them

950
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 2: calls right when you beating hell out, Jim Kelly them

951
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 2: super bowls? Man, they need to stop this. I hate

952
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 2: this pandury. Have they missed calls? They make it seem like, now,

953
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 2: o Joe, this in this game was the only time

954
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 2: officiating somebody missed the call. Yeah, I hate that they

955
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 2: miss calls. Before go back and look at the Steve

956
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 2: mail or Rent throw. He called a touchdown against the Steelers.

957
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 2: He got both feet in. They said no, the Steelers

958
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 2: wouldn't have been to the Super Bowl, And I just

959
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 2: man let me move home, because the more I think

960
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:53,879
Speaker 2: about it, the more said I get. The La Rails

961
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 2: faced several questions in their roster for twenty twenty five Seeds,

962
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 2: including whether Matthew Stafford will return for his seventeen season.

963
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 2: After the Rams layoff lost to the Eagles, Stafford said

964
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 2: that he would take some time to think about his future. Well,

965
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 2: it didn't take long. According to hear Rappaport, Stafford has

966
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 2: told the Rams he's planning on returning next season. Oh, Joe,

967
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 2: who's surprised by this. Stafford is going to make twenty

968
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 2: seven million. He's gonna want more than twenty seven million.

969
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 2: He's gonna want a contract extension.

970
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 3: And you deserve it. He learned it.

971
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,439
Speaker 5: I can't even argue that. I can't even I can't

972
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 5: even argue the fact. Is there a better option than

973
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 5: Matthew Stafford right now as a backup?

974
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 6: No?

975
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 5: Absolutely not so him deserving. Yes, I'm with you on

976
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 5: that two year, three year. We'll be talking about what

977
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 5: kind of money we be looking at.

978
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 3: Well, he's a schedule to make twenty seven million. What's

979
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 3: the going race? You know, to go and race fifty plus?

980
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 5: Okay, whoa whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa fifty plus.

981
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 3: I'm saying that's the going rate.

982
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,720
Speaker 2: I know it's the going rate. But all the staff,

983
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 2: this is seventeen season. He came out earliest, so he's

984
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 2: probably what thirty six thirty seven.

985
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 5: You paying a thirty seven year old quarterback fifty something million.

986
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 3: I'll give him. I give him three years. I give it.

987
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 3: I give him three years, one hundred and two, I

988
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 3: give him forty.

989
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 5: Okay, Now that's feasible. That's that's feasible. Doesn't put it.

990
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 5: It doesn't put us in the salary cap. Hell, you know,

991
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 5: if anything, obviously him asking or getting fifty million, that

992
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 5: that that messes up thing for Cooper cup Who is

993
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 5: gonna have to take take a pay cut or move

994
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 5: And you got you got, you got one more year,

995
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 5: You got one more year.

996
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 3: Proven the cool is up.

997
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, you gotta go see by him. Then you got

998
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 5: to see about that God damn verse. You gotta see

999
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 5: about verse.

1000
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 2: Oh you got any type of verse? You gott at

1001
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 2: least know you got two more years with verse it's

1002
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 2: his rookie rookie year, and and the other the other

1003
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 2: side of the rookie.

1004
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 5: Put them boys nice, Oh for sure, Oh them boys nice.

1005
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 2: But I'm not surprised he's playing too well. I mean

1006
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 2: it's not like he was struggling. I mean you look

1007
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 2: at that. You look at the game, the game against

1008
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 2: the Eagles. He threw the ball, and and that whether

1009
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 2: he threw for over three hnty mm hmm in the snow,

1010
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 2: in the snow, and and and and and had they

1011
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 2: not turned the ball over as much as they did,

1012
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 2: give Philly credit. Philly does a great job of getting

1013
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 2: the ball out. They do a great job of punching it.

1014
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 2: They clearly they practiced that. Yes, but I'm not I

1015
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 2: don't like the man's playing still playing at a at

1016
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 2: a at a very high level.

1017
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. That man ain't walking away from that kind of money, oh, Joe, No,

1018
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 3: absolutely not. And winning.

1019
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 2: It's not that it's a lot easier to walk away.

1020
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 2: They owe Joe, even when the money is on the table,

1021
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 2: when you lose it. Yeah, God, we see a guy

1022
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 2: complaining right now about not waiting. And he wanted to

1023
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 2: hide the paper receiver in the NFL An Joe.

1024
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, stash staff from bear Hell. They almost

1025
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 5: won that game if he hadn't throw that ball wide

1026
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 5: to pool in the cop at the end.

1027
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 3: Yep, he could we whide out of back.

1028
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 2: He didn't give him a chance. Of the balls that's

1029
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 2: thrown out a bout of the incomplete and on form down.

1030
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 2: Who cares if it's unaccepted. Give a got a chance.

1031
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 5: Got to give him a chance. Dagn got to give

1032
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 5: me a chance as a matter of fact, not to

1033
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,439
Speaker 5: be ruled. But the ball would have been complete because

1034
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,919
Speaker 5: the DV was in position trying to make sure people

1035
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 5: didn't get in front of him again, didn't get behind him.

1036
00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I said, get get, give your guy opportunity.

1037
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 2: I always got upset, Ohoe when guys throw the ball

1038
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 2: out of bounds. Okay, you're going for them the two

1039
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 2: on fourth down, or you're going for the last player

1040
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 2: of the game. Why you throwing it out of bounds?

1041
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:15,439
Speaker 2: Who can do you get an interception? Just like I hated,

1042
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 2: guys would check the ball down on the hell Mary

1043
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 2: right before the half o Joe.

1044
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 3: Because they don't want to mess up the completion your percentage.

1045
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 5: Right, man, Throw the damn ball on give me a chance.

1046
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 2: The hell you checking it down for like that man

1047
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 2: gonna break seventy seventy two tackles and go eighty go

1048
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 2: fifty five yards?

1049
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 3: Man? Throw bad? Ont you? I get so bad with u?

1050
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 2: See gouts check the ball down because they don't want

1051
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 2: to mess up they complete your percentage or don't want

1052
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 2: to throw it interception bad throw that damn ball is

1053
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 2: z on.

1054
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 3: That's funny, Ojo. Even though most NFL players would consider

1055
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 3: a Super Bowl to be the ultimate prize in the sports,

1056
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 3: it doesn't mean all of them would give up their

1057
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 3: individual achievements if it meant they could hold the suit

1058
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 3: Lombardi Troup. One example, Cam Newton. Cam said on First

1059
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 3: Take this morning that he would not give up his

1060
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 3: twenty fifteen MVP award if it went minning a super Bowl.

1061
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 3: Oh Joe, what do you think about this?

1062
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 5: I mean, everybody's different. I think everybody would want a

1063
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 5: super Bowl, But I think Cam wouldn't want to give

1064
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 5: it up because it's it's an individual accomplishment that he

1065
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 5: was able to achieve. And I think the super Bowl

1066
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,919
Speaker 5: obviously is a is a team accomplishment. But everyone would

1067
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 5: want a super Bowl.

1068
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 3: But you can't.

1069
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 5: You can't say his preference on what he would do

1070
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 5: is wrong or what he would want is wrong, or

1071
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 5: him not wanting to change one for the other, because

1072
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 5: that's just his personal preference in his opinion. What you

1073
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 5: think about it, un because if I, if I had,

1074
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 5: if I had the opportunity, let's say, to win the

1075
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 5: Super Bowl with the Patriots, that that twenty eleven year, I.

1076
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 3: Would I would. I would love to have a ring.

1077
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 5: You know, it'd be cool. It would be cool to say, hey,

1078
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 5: I'm a super Bowl champion. I mean, even though the

1079
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 5: ring would probably be collecting dust somewhere and I probably

1080
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 5: would have lost it, it'd have been cool to say,

1081
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 5: you know, it'd been nice on the resume. It would

1082
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 5: look good.

1083
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 6: You know.

1084
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 3: That's really tough for YO.

1085
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, because on one hand, Kim being the first overall

1086
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 2: pick him when he the MVP signifies he is the

1087
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 2: best player in the league.

1088
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 3: But that year had the best year super Bowl MVP

1089
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 3: means that you played the best in that game.

1090
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 2: M H. I get what he's saying. Everybody doesn't view

1091
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 2: it the same. It's like OJO, some people like that.

1092
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 2: I get, this is what I get, asked Shannon if

1093
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,919
Speaker 2: you didn't, would you give up your Hall of Fame

1094
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 2: ring to with the Super Bowl and my responsible I

1095
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 2: don't have to make that choice because I have both.

1096
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 2: But some people don't have both. Some people got in

1097
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame but didn't win a Super Bowl.

1098
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 2: Some people want a Super Bowl but didn't get into

1099
01:00:56,280 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. The MVP is different because the

1100
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 2: MVP is about one season. The Hall of Fame is

1101
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 2: about your your your your body of work over a

1102
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 2: period of time. And fifty men and women, most of

1103
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 2: that have never played a professional sport. Says, based on

1104
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 2: our knowledge of the game, what we see, we think

1105
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 2: this guy is worthy of football.

1106
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 3: Oh that's tough.

1107
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah. Every everybody mused it differently.

1108
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 2: You'd have to look at what Cam is viewed at.

1109
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 2: Cam is a multiple time Pro Bowl player. Now if

1110
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 2: he's just a guy that won a Super Bowl and

1111
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 2: never went to a Pro Bowl, Right, it's easy. It's easy,

1112
01:01:53,680 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 2: like okay, but hmm, Tom Brady. I had a conversation

1113
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 2: with Tom Brady on there. If y'all remember, Tom said

1114
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 2: he would give up one to two Super Bowls to

1115
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 2: win that set with that undefeated season.

1116
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 3: Oh, Tom, and I give up one or two over.

1117
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 5: He's like you, yeah, yeah, Tom being greedy.

1118
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 2: I think, I think I look at it like this,

1119
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 2: Cam is never gonna be right because they're never gonna

1120
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 2: let Cam live down.

1121
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 3: He didn't jump on that fumble.

1122
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, because guess what even if he said yes, I

1123
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 2: would give up my super Bowl MVP.

1124
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 3: I'll give him my MVP trophy.

1125
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 2: To win a super Bowl, everybody gonna say, well, why

1126
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 2: didn't you jump on that fumble to show us?

1127
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 3: You see right? You know that's what they're gonna go through.

1128
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 5: O yoke Cobway.

1129
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 2: I would read some of the comments now that explains

1130
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 2: why Cam didn't jump on the fumble. He's more concerned

1131
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 2: about individual awards.

1132
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 5: And win for losing.

1133
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 2: I mean, there are guys that have won the Super

1134
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 2: Bowl that are not better than some of the guys

1135
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 2: that didn't.

1136
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 3: There's some super Bowl MVPs.

1137
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 2: So you telling me Santonio Holmes is better than Laughish

1138
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 2: Jermy because they have Super Bowl MVP.

1139
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 3: Is that what you're telling me? Are we sure about that?

1140
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 1: Don't Joe?

1141
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 6: Right?

1142
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 3: Are we sure?

1143
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 5: So?

1144
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 3: Cooper Cup won Super Bowl MVP. He better than Random Moss,

1145
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 3: He better than TiO.

1146
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 6: Y.

1147
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 2: Look everybody wants to win a championship. But we but

1148
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 2: see what we've done now is that we put such

1149
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 2: emphasis on winning a championship that if a god doesn't win,

1150
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 2: not here bomb. There ain't no in between you either

1151
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 2: great or you a bomb. But damn, what about all

1152
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 2: that space in between?

1153
01:03:54,520 --> 01:04:01,439
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, no no no. I don't

1154
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 3: think guys don't try to go out. I think a

1155
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 3: lot of guys want to win.

1156
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 2: Everybody, Oh, Joe, if everybody could win a championship, one

1157
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 2: of thefing value, right, that's what makes it. That's what

1158
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 2: makes a championship significant. So if every just thinking about

1159
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 2: if every great player, every good player won a championship,

1160
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 2: won't Joe, what is the value in a championship?

1161
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 3: Right?

1162
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 5: And it's it's so it's so difficult to get there.

1163
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 2: And now everybody now now we don't got social media

1164
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 2: and everybody chiming in and everybody this and that.

1165
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 3: It's just.

1166
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 2: Like I said, Cam would if Cam would have said, hell, yeah,

1167
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 2: i'll give I'll give to win the Super Bowl, Yeah,

1168
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 2: I give him my MVP. Why don't you jump on

1169
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 2: that fumble? Then to show us see he was gonna win.

1170
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 2: Cam was gonna be and win, not Tim because there's

1171
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 2: evidence that shows that, hey, he did something and it

1172
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 2: didn't happen.

1173
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, Yeah, there's go ahead. What you're gonna say,

1174
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 5: it's it's hard to it's hard to defend that one.

1175
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 2: Oh, not jumping the ball. Yeah, there's no there's no

1176
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 2: excuse for he knows that. He knows that, No does,

1177
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 2: there's no excuse for that. I mean, in that moment

1178
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 2: you say you give it all, you give it to all,

1179
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 2: you got to

1180
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 1: The volume