1 00:00:05,046 --> 00:00:08,046 Speaker 1: A Huddle is a production of the NFL in partnership 2 00:00:08,086 --> 00:00:19,806 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. What a week, What a week it's been, 3 00:00:20,166 --> 00:00:22,566 Speaker 1: and we're not even done with it yet. Welcome into 4 00:00:22,606 --> 00:00:25,806 Speaker 1: the l Huddle podcast. Everybody. I'm m Jay Acosta, RUI 5 00:00:25,926 --> 00:00:32,206 Speaker 1: is along with me at many Oh yeah. This so 6 00:00:33,006 --> 00:00:37,806 Speaker 1: consecutive consecutive episodes and Jay who knew once once is 7 00:00:38,246 --> 00:00:41,366 Speaker 1: a coincidence? Twice a pattern. It looks like we're actually 8 00:00:41,406 --> 00:00:43,046 Speaker 1: going to be doing this thing. We're in it now 9 00:00:44,086 --> 00:00:48,526 Speaker 1: for sure. I love it. It's been an interesting week, um, 10 00:00:48,686 --> 00:00:51,126 Speaker 1: lots of under eyebags. So I'm so glad. We just 11 00:00:51,166 --> 00:00:55,126 Speaker 1: discovered that Zoom has a touch me up feature. I've 12 00:00:55,126 --> 00:00:58,526 Speaker 1: been living under a rock. Apparently it's a filter, will 13 00:00:59,086 --> 00:01:01,046 Speaker 1: so you're into the filter and the thing is like, 14 00:01:01,166 --> 00:01:03,886 Speaker 1: I'm just glad that I'm able to do this because 15 00:01:04,206 --> 00:01:07,486 Speaker 1: last week, you know, I was playing computer bingo C 16 00:01:08,206 --> 00:01:12,286 Speaker 1: two D five So okay, now try that log in. 17 00:01:12,726 --> 00:01:15,406 Speaker 1: So for me, I'm just happy that I'm on. I'm 18 00:01:15,446 --> 00:01:18,286 Speaker 1: just happy that I'm able to communicate with you. So 19 00:01:18,526 --> 00:01:21,886 Speaker 1: I love how you're geeked about the HD filter. Unreal, 20 00:01:22,006 --> 00:01:23,686 Speaker 1: I mean, of course, right, I got the ring light 21 00:01:23,726 --> 00:01:26,646 Speaker 1: going I already put a level of makeup on because 22 00:01:26,686 --> 00:01:29,766 Speaker 1: you know I care about you. Will Sometimes things can 23 00:01:29,806 --> 00:01:32,366 Speaker 1: be scary right off the top of the day. You're 24 00:01:32,446 --> 00:01:35,926 Speaker 1: trying to protect your guys. One thing about us, I 25 00:01:36,006 --> 00:01:39,726 Speaker 1: remember my dad always used to say, he's like one 26 00:01:39,726 --> 00:01:41,526 Speaker 1: thing about Latina's doesn't matter if they're going to the 27 00:01:41,566 --> 00:01:43,966 Speaker 1: grocery store, they're gonna put on some bruge and some 28 00:01:44,046 --> 00:01:49,446 Speaker 1: lip gloss and minimum. If you don't know the meaning, 29 00:01:49,526 --> 00:01:52,806 Speaker 1: it means are rather be dead than be basic. And 30 00:01:52,926 --> 00:01:55,206 Speaker 1: that's how we roll, for better or for worse. Sometimes 31 00:01:55,206 --> 00:01:57,486 Speaker 1: it can be a little toxic. But here we are 32 00:01:57,806 --> 00:02:00,646 Speaker 1: speaking of me and toxic. Will Things have been on 33 00:02:00,726 --> 00:02:05,406 Speaker 1: and popping across the league, so many stories. Somebody put 34 00:02:05,406 --> 00:02:09,646 Speaker 1: a little bit of like malojo on the quarterbacks because 35 00:02:09,646 --> 00:02:13,246 Speaker 1: the injuries have been wild, Will Sell, they have. They've 36 00:02:13,246 --> 00:02:16,966 Speaker 1: been crazy because if you look at the quarterbacks in particular, 37 00:02:17,126 --> 00:02:20,606 Speaker 1: and big names at that, these are players that are 38 00:02:20,686 --> 00:02:24,286 Speaker 1: integral obviously to their team. If you look at Aaron 39 00:02:24,366 --> 00:02:28,246 Speaker 1: Rodgers dealing with the thumb injury, so that's pretty significant, 40 00:02:28,286 --> 00:02:30,046 Speaker 1: it looks like he is going to be playing against 41 00:02:30,086 --> 00:02:34,366 Speaker 1: the Commanders. Then you have Russell Wilson so he's limited 42 00:02:34,726 --> 00:02:37,006 Speaker 1: with a hamstring injury. Now I reported this on Good 43 00:02:37,006 --> 00:02:39,766 Speaker 1: Morning Football, and so people were tweeting at me. It's like, 44 00:02:39,806 --> 00:02:43,126 Speaker 1: mister unlimited is limited. It's like, why didn't you do 45 00:02:43,166 --> 00:02:46,166 Speaker 1: that joke. It's like, now that's low having fruit. Yes, 46 00:02:46,326 --> 00:02:49,806 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do it. So there's issues there with 47 00:02:49,886 --> 00:02:53,486 Speaker 1: the offense in addition to the injuries that he's dealing with. 48 00:02:53,926 --> 00:02:57,566 Speaker 1: And then you have Lamar Jackson who also popped up 49 00:02:58,086 --> 00:03:02,286 Speaker 1: with a hip injury, and that one was a little 50 00:03:02,326 --> 00:03:06,886 Speaker 1: bit surprising. And you look at this Ravens team that 51 00:03:07,006 --> 00:03:11,006 Speaker 1: he pilots. This is a team that easily could have 52 00:03:11,086 --> 00:03:17,886 Speaker 1: been undefeated. Right. They essentially have trailed in these six 53 00:03:17,966 --> 00:03:23,006 Speaker 1: games less than two minutes. So all these games they've 54 00:03:23,006 --> 00:03:26,766 Speaker 1: had double digit leads, and it seems like the defense 55 00:03:26,846 --> 00:03:29,686 Speaker 1: just has not been able to help him out. He 56 00:03:29,766 --> 00:03:32,566 Speaker 1: hasn't been able to close it out. So this is 57 00:03:32,606 --> 00:03:36,526 Speaker 1: with these three guys. These injuries are are integral. And 58 00:03:36,606 --> 00:03:39,126 Speaker 1: you know, we spent part of the last episode, our 59 00:03:39,126 --> 00:03:43,926 Speaker 1: premiere episode, talking about grip strength, you know with reel Right, Well, 60 00:03:44,046 --> 00:03:46,446 Speaker 1: Dak's looking like he's coming back now against the Lions 61 00:03:46,486 --> 00:03:49,566 Speaker 1: this week, which is huge, but that took seven weeks 62 00:03:49,966 --> 00:03:52,006 Speaker 1: to get it back pretty much, you know. So it's 63 00:03:52,006 --> 00:03:55,526 Speaker 1: an interesting situation where we have this discussion on total access. 64 00:03:55,566 --> 00:03:58,446 Speaker 1: Where are these guys just doing the most? Are they 65 00:03:58,526 --> 00:04:00,366 Speaker 1: just trying to do as much as they can and 66 00:04:00,406 --> 00:04:02,166 Speaker 1: put it all on their shoulders. But you have to 67 00:04:02,206 --> 00:04:04,526 Speaker 1: be able to rely on the other phases and the 68 00:04:04,566 --> 00:04:07,486 Speaker 1: other levels of your team. The defenses have to show 69 00:04:07,606 --> 00:04:10,526 Speaker 1: up and step up and stop other offenses from putting 70 00:04:10,526 --> 00:04:12,286 Speaker 1: points on the board, especially in the case of the 71 00:04:12,366 --> 00:04:14,926 Speaker 1: Ravens like you mentioned, where you're leaving by ten or 72 00:04:14,966 --> 00:04:18,606 Speaker 1: more points going into the half like that boggles my mind. 73 00:04:18,686 --> 00:04:21,526 Speaker 1: But as we've seen this season more than any other, 74 00:04:21,566 --> 00:04:24,526 Speaker 1: I think any given Sunday, like this has been the 75 00:04:24,566 --> 00:04:28,246 Speaker 1: most topsy turvy season start that I've seen in quite 76 00:04:28,286 --> 00:04:31,046 Speaker 1: a while. No, it's it's been fun to watch, right, 77 00:04:31,126 --> 00:04:34,726 Speaker 1: And you know, we talked a little bit of about 78 00:04:34,806 --> 00:04:38,326 Speaker 1: Lamar and his injury and also feels like maybe he's 79 00:04:38,446 --> 00:04:42,726 Speaker 1: pressing too right because he knows that maybe the defense 80 00:04:42,806 --> 00:04:44,566 Speaker 1: isn't going to be able to hold the lead. Right 81 00:04:44,566 --> 00:04:46,646 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. I mean, he's thrown something like 82 00:04:46,806 --> 00:04:50,766 Speaker 1: five he's had five different turnovers I think in the 83 00:04:50,846 --> 00:04:53,606 Speaker 1: fourth quarter loan when he's had ten turnovers over like 84 00:04:53,646 --> 00:04:57,166 Speaker 1: the last four seasons. So maybe he's pressing, and maybe 85 00:04:57,166 --> 00:04:59,686 Speaker 1: it's he's like teams are coming with them with the blitz, 86 00:05:00,006 --> 00:05:02,886 Speaker 1: so then he's forced to make these decisions. Into your point, 87 00:05:03,086 --> 00:05:05,846 Speaker 1: as you guys were talking about on Total Access, maybe 88 00:05:05,886 --> 00:05:08,326 Speaker 1: it's a little bit too much hero ball, right, they 89 00:05:08,326 --> 00:05:10,886 Speaker 1: feel like they have to do everything themselves right, and 90 00:05:10,926 --> 00:05:15,086 Speaker 1: don't forget in Lamar's case, the contrast situation is or 91 00:05:15,206 --> 00:05:18,886 Speaker 1: lack thereof in this case, it's probably still looming there 92 00:05:18,926 --> 00:05:20,646 Speaker 1: at some point, even if it's at the back of 93 00:05:20,646 --> 00:05:22,086 Speaker 1: his mind. I don't know how it could be in 94 00:05:22,086 --> 00:05:24,486 Speaker 1: the back of your mind, because for me, I'd be 95 00:05:24,486 --> 00:05:27,326 Speaker 1: coming into this as Lamar like okay, audition season, then 96 00:05:27,686 --> 00:05:29,886 Speaker 1: for everybody, for every other team in the league. Right, 97 00:05:29,966 --> 00:05:33,006 Speaker 1: it's just me, you know, I'm petty. But it's all 98 00:05:33,046 --> 00:05:35,566 Speaker 1: good though, so my a little bit of pettiness doesn't hurt. 99 00:05:36,446 --> 00:05:39,966 Speaker 1: I think that Also he misses Rashad Bateman too, right, 100 00:05:39,966 --> 00:05:44,766 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, find Sean Jackson. So clearly they're missing guys 101 00:05:45,206 --> 00:05:47,726 Speaker 1: and they want that element of being able to throw 102 00:05:47,726 --> 00:05:50,766 Speaker 1: it down the field. And so that leads us perfectly 103 00:05:51,126 --> 00:05:54,366 Speaker 1: to Chiefs me, do you want to tell everybody about 104 00:05:54,446 --> 00:05:58,126 Speaker 1: chiefsm and what it's about. There's no bigger Chiefs also, 105 00:05:58,206 --> 00:06:00,766 Speaker 1: I think in this league than Aaron Rodgers. I mean, 106 00:06:00,806 --> 00:06:03,686 Speaker 1: he goes on a Buddy's podcast every week to spill 107 00:06:03,846 --> 00:06:06,686 Speaker 1: all the tee literally, Pat McAfee, thank you for this 108 00:06:06,926 --> 00:06:09,966 Speaker 1: beautiful platform that you've given us, for all of this 109 00:06:10,126 --> 00:06:13,686 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers content, whatever the medium, We're just happy that 110 00:06:13,766 --> 00:06:15,806 Speaker 1: it's here. I'm not happy though, for those who have 111 00:06:15,886 --> 00:06:18,566 Speaker 1: to deal with it inside the Packers building, because it 112 00:06:18,646 --> 00:06:21,086 Speaker 1: is a lot and it's been going back through several seasons. 113 00:06:21,086 --> 00:06:25,366 Speaker 1: So now Aaron Rodgers went on after last week's game 114 00:06:25,366 --> 00:06:28,086 Speaker 1: and said, yeah, we just got to simplify the offense. 115 00:06:28,606 --> 00:06:30,566 Speaker 1: What are you talking about. I'm not the only one 116 00:06:30,606 --> 00:06:32,966 Speaker 1: saying that. Matt LaForce said the same thing. His coach 117 00:06:33,046 --> 00:06:36,006 Speaker 1: was like, I actually have no idea what he's trying 118 00:06:36,046 --> 00:06:38,526 Speaker 1: to say here. I know that Jason mccordy was saying, 119 00:06:38,526 --> 00:06:40,886 Speaker 1: I don't know. It kind of sounds like that was 120 00:06:40,886 --> 00:06:43,286 Speaker 1: a direct dig at his coach. What do you think 121 00:06:43,326 --> 00:06:46,646 Speaker 1: will Yeah, Well, just like you hear Aaron Rodgers say that, 122 00:06:46,726 --> 00:06:51,286 Speaker 1: and he does say, like we need to simplify things, 123 00:06:51,726 --> 00:06:57,166 Speaker 1: or then I'll say, but we need to be explosive. 124 00:06:57,566 --> 00:07:00,406 Speaker 1: And so it's like, oh, okay, so so thank you. 125 00:07:00,486 --> 00:07:02,886 Speaker 1: That was an unveiling of an Aaron Rodger's impression. So 126 00:07:03,086 --> 00:07:06,486 Speaker 1: thank yoush out the box, fresh off the box. And 127 00:07:08,246 --> 00:07:10,606 Speaker 1: it's like, so, what's your identity here? Like, I don't 128 00:07:10,646 --> 00:07:15,126 Speaker 1: know what the identity of the Packers are right now 129 00:07:15,166 --> 00:07:19,126 Speaker 1: on offense because it feels like this offense is still 130 00:07:19,206 --> 00:07:22,366 Speaker 1: running as if Davante Adams is there. I get it. 131 00:07:22,406 --> 00:07:25,646 Speaker 1: They got newbies that are whiteouts that are dropping the ball, 132 00:07:26,086 --> 00:07:28,406 Speaker 1: but you got two great running backs behind you, and 133 00:07:28,526 --> 00:07:32,566 Speaker 1: AJ Dillon and Aaron Jones. Let's let's have those guys 134 00:07:32,886 --> 00:07:35,366 Speaker 1: run the ball a little bit, maybe get under center, 135 00:07:35,646 --> 00:07:38,206 Speaker 1: and have that offensive line put a little bit more 136 00:07:38,326 --> 00:07:41,326 Speaker 1: pressure on the defense because right now the offensive line 137 00:07:41,766 --> 00:07:45,006 Speaker 1: is not doing their job. And so I mean, he 138 00:07:45,086 --> 00:07:49,126 Speaker 1: was taking a licking from that defense of the Jets, 139 00:07:49,566 --> 00:07:52,606 Speaker 1: and so I just feel like him throwing it a 140 00:07:52,646 --> 00:07:56,166 Speaker 1: lot doesn't help out. And I don't know, And you 141 00:07:56,206 --> 00:07:58,766 Speaker 1: tell me what you think. Sometimes I think because la 142 00:07:58,846 --> 00:08:01,566 Speaker 1: floor has been there since the beginning, I've had thirteen 143 00:08:01,606 --> 00:08:05,926 Speaker 1: win seasons, thirteen win seasons, that maybe there's this lack 144 00:08:05,966 --> 00:08:12,526 Speaker 1: of creativity where they're not pushing themselves to think differently 145 00:08:12,646 --> 00:08:16,126 Speaker 1: now that Davante Adams isn't there and they have the 146 00:08:16,166 --> 00:08:19,166 Speaker 1: situation that they have at present, that maybe they have 147 00:08:19,246 --> 00:08:22,406 Speaker 1: to go back to basics. Maybe what Lafleur has to do, 148 00:08:22,926 --> 00:08:24,806 Speaker 1: he has to do is what his brother did to 149 00:08:24,926 --> 00:08:28,086 Speaker 1: him with the Jets, right, with running the ball right. 150 00:08:29,246 --> 00:08:32,446 Speaker 1: I disagree in that aspect because we've had this conversation 151 00:08:32,486 --> 00:08:38,926 Speaker 1: about what makes these future Hall of Fame quarterbacks MVP guys, 152 00:08:39,246 --> 00:08:41,446 Speaker 1: those guys that are change makers, right, And when you're 153 00:08:41,446 --> 00:08:44,366 Speaker 1: talking about those guys, you have Aaron Rodgers in the conversation, 154 00:08:44,566 --> 00:08:46,646 Speaker 1: and the whole point of Aaron Rodgers re member when 155 00:08:46,646 --> 00:08:48,446 Speaker 1: Tay was still there and he got hurt, It's like 156 00:08:48,486 --> 00:08:51,406 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter because Aaron Rodgers can get it to anybody. 157 00:08:51,726 --> 00:08:54,286 Speaker 1: He can make it work with whomever. This isn't a 158 00:08:54,446 --> 00:08:58,926 Speaker 1: newbie quarterback who needs the perfect pieces around him. This 159 00:08:58,966 --> 00:09:00,966 Speaker 1: is a guy who's been there. This is a guy 160 00:09:00,966 --> 00:09:04,566 Speaker 1: who has won multiple MVP Awards. He should be able 161 00:09:04,566 --> 00:09:08,806 Speaker 1: to make everybody else better because that's what's expected of him, 162 00:09:08,846 --> 00:09:11,206 Speaker 1: not just at this point in his career, but with 163 00:09:11,326 --> 00:09:14,486 Speaker 1: what he brings to the game, he is a great quarterback, 164 00:09:14,806 --> 00:09:18,086 Speaker 1: no question. So then what's the problem. What's the disconnect? 165 00:09:18,246 --> 00:09:20,646 Speaker 1: It shouldn't matter. And it's not like he's got bums 166 00:09:20,646 --> 00:09:23,406 Speaker 1: out there. He's got good players around him still, So 167 00:09:23,646 --> 00:09:25,446 Speaker 1: I don't think that it's a lack of creativity. I 168 00:09:25,606 --> 00:09:28,886 Speaker 1: just I don't know why Rogers necessarily is trying to 169 00:09:28,926 --> 00:09:31,366 Speaker 1: put the blame on everybody else, not to say he's 170 00:09:31,366 --> 00:09:33,046 Speaker 1: not doing his job because he, like you said, he 171 00:09:33,126 --> 00:09:38,446 Speaker 1: got walloped. Yeah he did, but he was still completing 172 00:09:38,486 --> 00:09:40,366 Speaker 1: passes by the way under pressure and doing all that. 173 00:09:40,406 --> 00:09:42,206 Speaker 1: But like, you can only do that for so long. 174 00:09:42,686 --> 00:09:45,526 Speaker 1: But come on, man, there's got to be a sense 175 00:09:45,646 --> 00:09:49,326 Speaker 1: of of of accountability at that level as well. But 176 00:09:49,926 --> 00:09:53,286 Speaker 1: U and I think, um, you know, I have to 177 00:09:53,966 --> 00:09:59,006 Speaker 1: tick my play up a bit a tick and the 178 00:09:59,326 --> 00:10:04,006 Speaker 1: ayahuasca I think, Sorry, I just I just had to. 179 00:10:05,566 --> 00:10:08,326 Speaker 1: It's the mannerisms too, right, Like the impressions. It's so 180 00:10:08,366 --> 00:10:10,886 Speaker 1: important to get like the manner rooms of some of 181 00:10:10,966 --> 00:10:13,886 Speaker 1: each player down. Um, yeah, I don't know what's going 182 00:10:13,926 --> 00:10:17,806 Speaker 1: on in Green Bay. It's it's it's a really I'm 183 00:10:17,846 --> 00:10:19,846 Speaker 1: just confused. I'm confused. I think a lot of people 184 00:10:19,886 --> 00:10:24,966 Speaker 1: are teams like coaches as well. M a arn what's 185 00:10:25,006 --> 00:10:28,086 Speaker 1: going on, man, Yeah, yeah, and try to create voids 186 00:10:28,126 --> 00:10:31,206 Speaker 1: on the outside for these wide receivers. They're young guys 187 00:10:32,446 --> 00:10:34,726 Speaker 1: and maybe they need to be schemed up to get 188 00:10:34,766 --> 00:10:38,086 Speaker 1: them open. And it was interesting that James Jones said 189 00:10:38,166 --> 00:10:41,966 Speaker 1: that when he played for the Packers and he ran, 190 00:10:42,086 --> 00:10:44,606 Speaker 1: say a curl route, well he ran it a little 191 00:10:44,646 --> 00:10:48,766 Speaker 1: differently than say, Greg Jennings ran it that other wide 192 00:10:48,766 --> 00:10:54,726 Speaker 1: receivers did, and that Aaron Rodgers will eventually find your nuances, 193 00:10:55,206 --> 00:11:00,166 Speaker 1: your little ticks, the things that make you you. Uh, 194 00:11:00,326 --> 00:11:02,646 Speaker 1: And so he was saying that, I thought it was 195 00:11:02,686 --> 00:11:05,326 Speaker 1: interesting that needs to happen. So they need a lot 196 00:11:05,486 --> 00:11:07,926 Speaker 1: they're three and three. Uh So they're still in a 197 00:11:07,966 --> 00:11:11,326 Speaker 1: good spot right now. The NFC doesn't look like the 198 00:11:11,366 --> 00:11:14,326 Speaker 1: AFC does at the moment, so they're still in the mix, 199 00:11:14,726 --> 00:11:16,646 Speaker 1: but a lot of things have to happen for them 200 00:11:16,766 --> 00:11:34,006 Speaker 1: to change what they're doing. Welcome back to l Huddle. 201 00:11:34,446 --> 00:11:37,486 Speaker 1: I'm Brian Comple and this is real Sports. On our 202 00:11:37,526 --> 00:11:41,446 Speaker 1: premiere episode of El Huddle, we had heard the time 203 00:11:41,486 --> 00:11:45,526 Speaker 1: of Deception and love m Jack Hasta. Luise faced with 204 00:11:45,646 --> 00:11:51,126 Speaker 1: a very hard revelation from her dad. So, mjuh, is 205 00:11:51,166 --> 00:11:53,486 Speaker 1: there a reason why your dad said that he was 206 00:11:53,566 --> 00:11:58,486 Speaker 1: a Buffalo Bills fan? Um? This this after our pod 207 00:11:58,726 --> 00:12:03,646 Speaker 1: was done. I'm sorry. It felt like you your world 208 00:12:03,926 --> 00:12:06,246 Speaker 1: was shattered and you need to have a sit down 209 00:12:06,246 --> 00:12:10,206 Speaker 1: with Bryant Gumble Ubody. And so you're very very close 210 00:12:10,246 --> 00:12:12,126 Speaker 1: with your dad. He revealed that he was a Buffalo 211 00:12:12,206 --> 00:12:16,126 Speaker 1: Bill's fan. Obviously you are a die hard Miami Dolphins fan. 212 00:12:16,206 --> 00:12:19,606 Speaker 1: You were a cheerleader. You're very proud of that. And 213 00:12:19,686 --> 00:12:23,006 Speaker 1: so now you guys are on different footing, but you 214 00:12:23,006 --> 00:12:27,126 Speaker 1: guys are still close and you guys, um, you guys 215 00:12:27,166 --> 00:12:30,806 Speaker 1: still text a lot, and he wants some info from you. 216 00:12:31,326 --> 00:12:36,046 Speaker 1: So what did your say? So this week? The great 217 00:12:36,086 --> 00:12:38,926 Speaker 1: part about these these texts for my dad or these 218 00:12:40,486 --> 00:12:42,726 Speaker 1: no no more bombshells. I think we're done for the season. 219 00:12:42,726 --> 00:12:44,526 Speaker 1: I told him he's not saying anything else to me 220 00:12:44,646 --> 00:12:47,646 Speaker 1: like that without warning before. But he always starts with 221 00:12:47,686 --> 00:12:50,606 Speaker 1: its like very traditional. It's like the stemenda, right, So 222 00:12:50,646 --> 00:12:53,406 Speaker 1: it's like very traditional and like Latino households for them 223 00:12:53,446 --> 00:12:56,566 Speaker 1: to give you a blessing anytime you talk to them. Um, 224 00:12:56,606 --> 00:13:00,166 Speaker 1: so it's always good huh before we even start, and 225 00:13:00,206 --> 00:13:02,646 Speaker 1: then it's like full force and like, are you really 226 00:13:02,686 --> 00:13:05,366 Speaker 1: believing the Falcons? Which was a conversation station that my 227 00:13:05,446 --> 00:13:07,726 Speaker 1: dad and I had early on in the season because 228 00:13:07,726 --> 00:13:09,806 Speaker 1: I had picked the Falcons on a couple of upsets 229 00:13:09,926 --> 00:13:12,446 Speaker 1: and they didn't come through for me then. But last 230 00:13:12,526 --> 00:13:16,966 Speaker 1: week against the forty nine Ers, my dad said, oh, 231 00:13:17,046 --> 00:13:20,326 Speaker 1: I see what you were seeing in them before. Granted, 232 00:13:20,566 --> 00:13:22,766 Speaker 1: this is a decimated forty nine Ers team, right, they're 233 00:13:22,766 --> 00:13:26,566 Speaker 1: dealing with a lot of injuries defensively specifically, for sure, 234 00:13:27,206 --> 00:13:31,566 Speaker 1: but it was an interesting game for the Falcons because 235 00:13:31,566 --> 00:13:33,806 Speaker 1: I even though I picked the Niners to win that game, 236 00:13:33,846 --> 00:13:35,246 Speaker 1: I was like, man, I bet you they're going to 237 00:13:35,326 --> 00:13:37,446 Speaker 1: be in it, like they have been all season long. 238 00:13:37,526 --> 00:13:40,966 Speaker 1: They've been so close, They've had second half comebacks that 239 00:13:40,966 --> 00:13:43,726 Speaker 1: you've seen, and they've put teams on their heels all 240 00:13:43,806 --> 00:13:47,086 Speaker 1: year long. And they got that big, almost statement win 241 00:13:47,366 --> 00:13:51,726 Speaker 1: against the forty nine Ers. They faced the Bengals this week, 242 00:13:51,766 --> 00:13:55,686 Speaker 1: which I think is a winnable game. Pops does not 243 00:13:55,766 --> 00:13:58,766 Speaker 1: agree with me. He's like, I don't know, I don't 244 00:13:58,766 --> 00:14:02,486 Speaker 1: know if that's going to happen. He's not in on it. Listen, 245 00:14:02,606 --> 00:14:06,206 Speaker 1: I'm right there with you. The Falcons physical team, they 246 00:14:06,246 --> 00:14:10,166 Speaker 1: love to run the ball. And also Marcus Mariota looks 247 00:14:10,166 --> 00:14:17,246 Speaker 1: like Scus Mariota from the right. Arthur Smith knows him 248 00:14:17,286 --> 00:14:22,206 Speaker 1: because of their time in Tennessee, and uh, he's doing 249 00:14:22,326 --> 00:14:26,366 Speaker 1: more with less. And I think Arthur Smith and the 250 00:14:26,446 --> 00:14:30,206 Speaker 1: Falcons was one of those teams that surprised us. And 251 00:14:30,246 --> 00:14:33,766 Speaker 1: here's another crazy thing too, Like in their three losses, 252 00:14:34,086 --> 00:14:38,086 Speaker 1: they've lost by eleven points or under eleven points or something, 253 00:14:38,446 --> 00:14:43,006 Speaker 1: So it's not like they've been blown out right. Um, 254 00:14:43,086 --> 00:14:48,406 Speaker 1: So they're playing They're playing good ball right now. And yeah, 255 00:14:48,486 --> 00:14:51,766 Speaker 1: if I'm if I'm the Bengals, i'd be a little worried. Um. 256 00:14:52,006 --> 00:14:54,326 Speaker 1: I feel like though Joe Burrow in that offense is 257 00:14:54,326 --> 00:14:58,686 Speaker 1: finally found its footing. Yea. Yeah, they seem to be 258 00:14:58,726 --> 00:15:01,646 Speaker 1: clicking a little bit more. And it seems like Burrow's 259 00:15:01,686 --> 00:15:05,846 Speaker 1: really navigating that pocket much better. You we talked about 260 00:15:05,846 --> 00:15:09,446 Speaker 1: that offensive line, how it's really betrayed him and hasn't 261 00:15:09,486 --> 00:15:12,286 Speaker 1: helped him in the pocket. But it seems like he's 262 00:15:12,326 --> 00:15:16,286 Speaker 1: a little bit more in rhythm with the receivers. And 263 00:15:16,326 --> 00:15:18,406 Speaker 1: I think also they're kind of going back to that 264 00:15:18,726 --> 00:15:23,766 Speaker 1: Bengals offense that made them successful last season. So you're 265 00:15:23,806 --> 00:15:26,646 Speaker 1: thinking Bengals right for the lupset then huh okay, I 266 00:15:26,686 --> 00:15:29,406 Speaker 1: think so a little prev there, But my dad is 267 00:15:29,446 --> 00:15:31,846 Speaker 1: a lockstep with you, will he said, I don't know. 268 00:15:32,286 --> 00:15:34,886 Speaker 1: We know what Joe Burrow can do when he's on 269 00:15:35,046 --> 00:15:37,286 Speaker 1: his game and what that offense can do when they're 270 00:15:37,286 --> 00:15:39,406 Speaker 1: on their game, and that's what he feels is going 271 00:15:39,406 --> 00:15:44,406 Speaker 1: to happen this week. But I said, Pops, Poppy, the 272 00:15:44,766 --> 00:15:49,646 Speaker 1: Falcons have a very important thing right now, momentum. Momentum, 273 00:15:49,846 --> 00:15:52,286 Speaker 1: especially coming off a win against a team like the Niners. 274 00:15:52,566 --> 00:15:55,286 Speaker 1: They're feeling away. They're gonna feel away, and we know 275 00:15:55,366 --> 00:15:57,246 Speaker 1: that they can play, and we know that they're physical. 276 00:15:57,286 --> 00:16:00,206 Speaker 1: And Marcus Mariota, I'm so I love this for you. 277 00:16:00,846 --> 00:16:03,086 Speaker 1: Love this for you, Marcus. So I don't know, that's 278 00:16:03,086 --> 00:16:04,966 Speaker 1: why I'm taking the Falcons. I picked them earlier in 279 00:16:05,006 --> 00:16:06,406 Speaker 1: the year. They kind of let me down, but I've 280 00:16:06,406 --> 00:16:08,686 Speaker 1: been watching them very closely. But I'm picking them again 281 00:16:08,726 --> 00:16:11,966 Speaker 1: this week. All right. So uh So we talked about 282 00:16:12,006 --> 00:16:15,886 Speaker 1: the big deceit, you know, and I feel like this 283 00:16:16,006 --> 00:16:19,046 Speaker 1: is um therapy for you. So it is. Let's talk 284 00:16:19,086 --> 00:16:22,886 Speaker 1: about your team, not your dad's team. So what do 285 00:16:22,926 --> 00:16:28,766 Speaker 1: you think of what do you think of the Dolphins 286 00:16:29,166 --> 00:16:32,766 Speaker 1: taken on the Steelers on Sunday night? How are you 287 00:16:32,806 --> 00:16:37,486 Speaker 1: feeling about it? How's I mean? Of course this is 288 00:16:37,526 --> 00:16:44,126 Speaker 1: happening under the lights on Sunday night. Um, I'm feeling good. 289 00:16:44,446 --> 00:16:47,286 Speaker 1: And my dad is actually on board as well. You know, 290 00:16:47,286 --> 00:16:50,966 Speaker 1: he always says, like me and to go to brunch 291 00:16:50,966 --> 00:16:55,366 Speaker 1: on Sundays, and I'm like, he's a little busy on something. Yeah, 292 00:16:55,446 --> 00:16:57,006 Speaker 1: because you know how I'm like parents like, oh, your 293 00:16:57,046 --> 00:16:59,726 Speaker 1: little friend, your little friend whoever, That's how he refers 294 00:16:59,766 --> 00:17:01,326 Speaker 1: to I'm my dad. I did one feature with the 295 00:17:01,566 --> 00:17:04,606 Speaker 1: with the man He's like, yeah, Like, but now I 296 00:17:04,646 --> 00:17:07,326 Speaker 1: know where that tone comes from, right, because he's actually 297 00:17:07,366 --> 00:17:09,526 Speaker 1: a billspency. It all circles back, It all starts to 298 00:17:09,526 --> 00:17:11,846 Speaker 1: make sense, all the layers now that we get deeper 299 00:17:11,846 --> 00:17:16,566 Speaker 1: into it. But he does think that the time, the 300 00:17:16,606 --> 00:17:18,606 Speaker 1: time that too has taken now to come back from 301 00:17:18,606 --> 00:17:22,846 Speaker 1: that concussion proto protocol to be healthy, to be confident 302 00:17:23,086 --> 00:17:26,006 Speaker 1: in getting back on the field and leading this team 303 00:17:26,126 --> 00:17:28,606 Speaker 1: is exactly what he needed, he thinks. Against the Steelers team, 304 00:17:28,606 --> 00:17:31,206 Speaker 1: even though they got to win last week against the Bucks. 305 00:17:31,206 --> 00:17:34,046 Speaker 1: This is a winnable game that the Dolphins should win 306 00:17:34,086 --> 00:17:37,166 Speaker 1: this game, and they're also celebrating the anniversary of the 307 00:17:37,206 --> 00:17:39,606 Speaker 1: perfect season, the fiftieth anniversary of the perfect season from 308 00:17:39,606 --> 00:17:42,566 Speaker 1: the nineteen seventy two Dolphins. So there's a lot going on, 309 00:17:42,766 --> 00:17:45,206 Speaker 1: a lot of eyeballs. But I think this is the 310 00:17:45,246 --> 00:17:48,766 Speaker 1: perfect opportunity for the Dolphins to get back informed the 311 00:17:48,806 --> 00:17:51,606 Speaker 1: way we saw them leading up to and after that 312 00:17:51,686 --> 00:17:56,406 Speaker 1: win against the Bills at home. So I'm confident, and 313 00:17:56,526 --> 00:17:59,246 Speaker 1: I think Dad is trying to make amends by also 314 00:17:59,246 --> 00:18:01,166 Speaker 1: saying that he is confident with the Dolphins. Whether he 315 00:18:01,166 --> 00:18:03,246 Speaker 1: means it or not, is just a nod to how 316 00:18:03,326 --> 00:18:09,486 Speaker 1: much he loves me. Right he would, he is. He 317 00:18:09,606 --> 00:18:12,046 Speaker 1: is a good dad. So you know he's gonna have 318 00:18:12,166 --> 00:18:14,966 Speaker 1: my back. He's gonna have my back at least this week. Yeah. 319 00:18:15,006 --> 00:18:18,326 Speaker 1: I am looking forward to that because I want to see, um, 320 00:18:18,406 --> 00:18:21,886 Speaker 1: how Tah is going to respond in the pocket, you know, 321 00:18:21,926 --> 00:18:24,046 Speaker 1: when it's collapsing on him, how he's going to do, 322 00:18:24,166 --> 00:18:26,606 Speaker 1: how he's going to respond to that, because that worries 323 00:18:26,726 --> 00:18:29,686 Speaker 1: me a little bit, um, you know, And remember Xavian 324 00:18:29,726 --> 00:18:32,366 Speaker 1: Howard came out and said like, hey, the offense needs 325 00:18:32,366 --> 00:18:35,046 Speaker 1: to score points, called him out, ye right, And then 326 00:18:35,166 --> 00:18:37,886 Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel came out and said, so we're going to 327 00:18:37,926 --> 00:18:42,926 Speaker 1: follow with whatever or Keptain says, we're going to be 328 00:18:42,926 --> 00:18:45,166 Speaker 1: better and score and so you know, so he's saying 329 00:18:45,166 --> 00:18:47,806 Speaker 1: that kind of thing. It's like, you know, yeah, it's 330 00:18:47,806 --> 00:18:50,286 Speaker 1: like but Mike McDaniels sticking with him, you know, and 331 00:18:50,446 --> 00:18:53,726 Speaker 1: he agrees with him. Yeah, as he should. So, so 332 00:18:54,406 --> 00:18:56,926 Speaker 1: I will be looking forward to see how t is 333 00:18:57,126 --> 00:19:00,406 Speaker 1: with the receivers and and and also hopefully two is 334 00:19:00,406 --> 00:19:03,086 Speaker 1: going to get more credit for the deep balls that 335 00:19:03,126 --> 00:19:06,366 Speaker 1: he has thrown, right, because that I don't think people 336 00:19:06,566 --> 00:19:09,806 Speaker 1: really appreciate what he was doing in the ball placement 337 00:19:10,806 --> 00:19:14,806 Speaker 1: that he was given these receivers in Waddle and Tyreek. 338 00:19:15,526 --> 00:19:17,766 Speaker 1: No question, give the man his props. He was just 339 00:19:17,806 --> 00:19:21,606 Speaker 1: on the purposes of people really giving him the credit 340 00:19:21,646 --> 00:19:23,526 Speaker 1: he deserves. And then he gets hurt in the way 341 00:19:23,526 --> 00:19:26,606 Speaker 1: that he does. But now everybody loves a redemption story. 342 00:19:27,126 --> 00:19:31,046 Speaker 1: Here we go. Well, I gotta get you your takes 343 00:19:31,046 --> 00:19:33,166 Speaker 1: on a couple of things. It is time for buy 344 00:19:33,486 --> 00:19:37,166 Speaker 1: or sell BA. Yeah. Probably one of my favorite points 345 00:19:37,246 --> 00:19:42,166 Speaker 1: of the week. Is there an update here? On that 346 00:19:42,286 --> 00:19:45,686 Speaker 1: ping pong situation from last week with the Dolphins. As 347 00:19:46,166 --> 00:19:49,326 Speaker 1: we just weave those two together, ping pong table is out, 348 00:19:49,366 --> 00:19:51,726 Speaker 1: it turns out it was not a matter of focus, 349 00:19:51,846 --> 00:19:54,926 Speaker 1: but rather a matter of customization. Yes, it was just 350 00:19:55,006 --> 00:19:57,846 Speaker 1: it was about it was about tricking it out. That 351 00:19:58,006 --> 00:20:01,006 Speaker 1: was all that it was. And it was confusing because 352 00:20:01,046 --> 00:20:03,726 Speaker 1: he heard Mike McDaniel and the way that he said it. 353 00:20:03,806 --> 00:20:07,126 Speaker 1: He's like, well, the leader want this ping pong out, 354 00:20:07,366 --> 00:20:09,166 Speaker 1: and so he's like, oh, okay, and it's like, but 355 00:20:09,366 --> 00:20:12,326 Speaker 1: when they giveth, they taketh away, you know, and so 356 00:20:12,406 --> 00:20:17,046 Speaker 1: he's saying this stuff and um. So anyway, it wasn't 357 00:20:17,046 --> 00:20:21,086 Speaker 1: about them being on this losing streak, and you know, 358 00:20:21,286 --> 00:20:24,846 Speaker 1: that was their focus. So that was that was expanding 359 00:20:24,886 --> 00:20:28,646 Speaker 1: on that. So I that was myselva. So I'm buying 360 00:20:28,646 --> 00:20:31,006 Speaker 1: into their team chemistry when I want to call it 361 00:20:31,086 --> 00:20:35,126 Speaker 1: so fine, fine, fine, But there's let's circle back to Lamar, 362 00:20:35,406 --> 00:20:39,326 Speaker 1: who we talked about extensively earlier. Is he going to 363 00:20:39,406 --> 00:20:41,406 Speaker 1: be able to do what you say he has to 364 00:20:41,446 --> 00:20:45,606 Speaker 1: do now, be able to close out the Browns this weekend? 365 00:20:45,966 --> 00:20:48,166 Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna buy on that. I think this 366 00:20:48,286 --> 00:20:50,086 Speaker 1: is the week that he does it. I think the 367 00:20:50,126 --> 00:20:53,926 Speaker 1: Browns defense is not very good. I don't think they 368 00:20:53,966 --> 00:20:57,966 Speaker 1: tackle very well, and so I think that Lamar is 369 00:20:58,006 --> 00:21:00,566 Speaker 1: going to get it together. And I think this is 370 00:21:01,006 --> 00:21:04,686 Speaker 1: a huge divisional game. I think this divisions very gettable 371 00:21:04,846 --> 00:21:08,526 Speaker 1: for them their first place. They've already beaten the Bengals, 372 00:21:08,806 --> 00:21:12,206 Speaker 1: so I am gonna finally say this is the week 373 00:21:12,566 --> 00:21:15,606 Speaker 1: where they have a lead and they're going to stay 374 00:21:15,686 --> 00:21:22,926 Speaker 1: with it. I love that, Um he's back, Dak is back, 375 00:21:23,006 --> 00:21:27,326 Speaker 1: baby thumbs up. We saw the Cowboys tweet about it perfect. 376 00:21:27,806 --> 00:21:29,966 Speaker 1: So is it going to be the same old Dak? 377 00:21:30,086 --> 00:21:31,646 Speaker 1: Is he going to be like Dack two point No? 378 00:21:31,726 --> 00:21:35,646 Speaker 1: Now he's got a bionic thumb robot. What do you 379 00:21:35,646 --> 00:21:39,246 Speaker 1: think about? Are you buying Dak is back against the Lions. 380 00:21:39,726 --> 00:21:43,486 Speaker 1: I am buying this wholeheartedly. This is a soft landing 381 00:21:43,526 --> 00:21:47,726 Speaker 1: for him facing the Lions who are have a very 382 00:21:47,766 --> 00:21:54,326 Speaker 1: poorous pass um defense. I also think that hopefully, hopefully 383 00:21:54,526 --> 00:21:58,526 Speaker 1: Dak has learned that it's okay, it's not all on you. 384 00:21:58,526 --> 00:22:01,086 Speaker 1: You don't have to chuck that ball forty times a game. 385 00:22:01,486 --> 00:22:04,446 Speaker 1: You can do what Cooper Rush did, but now you 386 00:22:04,486 --> 00:22:07,806 Speaker 1: have a stronger arm, you're more accurate, and you're mobile 387 00:22:07,846 --> 00:22:11,006 Speaker 1: in the pocket. So let's rely on the things that 388 00:22:11,046 --> 00:22:14,326 Speaker 1: got us to this point. Let's rely on the running game, 389 00:22:14,366 --> 00:22:17,246 Speaker 1: and on Pollard and on Zeke, and rely on this 390 00:22:17,366 --> 00:22:20,766 Speaker 1: defense to keep you in the game. And occasionally you 391 00:22:20,806 --> 00:22:23,406 Speaker 1: have to do an explosive play, do it, but at 392 00:22:23,446 --> 00:22:26,726 Speaker 1: this point time, let's not go too crazy. And this 393 00:22:26,806 --> 00:22:29,566 Speaker 1: goes for Kellen Moore. Just dial it back, okay, man, 394 00:22:29,886 --> 00:22:32,726 Speaker 1: dial it back, which is gonna be hard because the 395 00:22:32,726 --> 00:22:34,846 Speaker 1: man has been chomping at the bit on the sidelines 396 00:22:34,846 --> 00:22:38,046 Speaker 1: with headphones on for several weeks. He's ready to go. 397 00:22:38,126 --> 00:22:40,366 Speaker 1: But I think you're right. He has to be measured 398 00:22:40,966 --> 00:22:43,406 Speaker 1: and play it's smart, especially in this one. But I 399 00:22:43,406 --> 00:22:45,406 Speaker 1: think the defense will step up for him and give 400 00:22:45,486 --> 00:22:47,686 Speaker 1: him and give him some help there because we do 401 00:22:47,806 --> 00:22:49,686 Speaker 1: know that the Lions can put up points as well. 402 00:22:50,166 --> 00:22:53,606 Speaker 1: So ye've seen it this year y points against a 403 00:22:53,606 --> 00:22:56,446 Speaker 1: couple of teams. So that's good, all right, So Dak 404 00:22:56,446 --> 00:22:59,206 Speaker 1: has to be a little bit more measured. But there's 405 00:22:59,246 --> 00:23:02,206 Speaker 1: other folks who you want to just give it all, 406 00:23:02,326 --> 00:23:07,246 Speaker 1: be that dog or in this case, yeah as well. 407 00:23:07,966 --> 00:23:11,886 Speaker 1: For me. We mentioned the forty nine ers, but that 408 00:23:11,966 --> 00:23:15,006 Speaker 1: they had come off that loss to the Falcons and 409 00:23:15,046 --> 00:23:18,286 Speaker 1: then um, you know Kansas City also coming off a loss, 410 00:23:18,406 --> 00:23:20,966 Speaker 1: so they're facing each other. I know all the all 411 00:23:20,966 --> 00:23:24,166 Speaker 1: the attention is on Kelsey and for good reason. But 412 00:23:24,166 --> 00:23:26,086 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the forty nine ers and George Kittle. 413 00:23:26,246 --> 00:23:29,966 Speaker 1: George Kittle had over eighty yards. Okay, let's use him 414 00:23:30,286 --> 00:23:34,366 Speaker 1: in this offense. Now, let's unleash him and let's see 415 00:23:34,366 --> 00:23:37,206 Speaker 1: what he can do and what what Shanahan can cook 416 00:23:37,286 --> 00:23:40,766 Speaker 1: there at Levi Stadium. So for me, uh, it's Kittle 417 00:23:41,086 --> 00:23:43,606 Speaker 1: for the forty nine ers. You know him and Jimmy 418 00:23:43,606 --> 00:23:48,166 Speaker 1: g are besties. Oh yeah, used that us choice. Who 419 00:23:48,166 --> 00:23:51,166 Speaker 1: else are you watching? I am going to be watching 420 00:23:51,206 --> 00:23:54,246 Speaker 1: that Jets Broncos game. Uh, and I'm gonna be watching 421 00:23:54,326 --> 00:23:58,326 Speaker 1: Bruce Hall, and he's my pedromacho because I think that 422 00:23:58,406 --> 00:24:01,526 Speaker 1: he can it's possible, get a thousand yards on the ground, 423 00:24:01,726 --> 00:24:06,166 Speaker 1: can also get five hundred yards received eving. I think 424 00:24:06,206 --> 00:24:09,366 Speaker 1: that he is dynamic, he's got awesome burst. He's part 425 00:24:09,366 --> 00:24:12,766 Speaker 1: of that outside zone run that they ran we were 426 00:24:12,806 --> 00:24:16,566 Speaker 1: talking about in San Francisco. So I really like breeze 427 00:24:16,566 --> 00:24:19,086 Speaker 1: Hall in the dimension that he's brought to this offense. 428 00:24:19,926 --> 00:24:22,646 Speaker 1: I thought about the Jets defense too. You can go 429 00:24:22,686 --> 00:24:26,726 Speaker 1: with any of those young guys, but they they have 430 00:24:26,806 --> 00:24:30,246 Speaker 1: so much confidence in these rookies and Bruce Hall and 431 00:24:30,406 --> 00:24:33,886 Speaker 1: Sas Gardner. I mean, this is a fun team and 432 00:24:33,966 --> 00:24:36,686 Speaker 1: at four and two, I think they're also a good team. 433 00:24:37,086 --> 00:24:41,246 Speaker 1: So Mike Perro, Macho, Bruecee Hall nice. I like that, 434 00:24:41,286 --> 00:24:43,726 Speaker 1: you know. It's it's also tough for me to admit 435 00:24:44,166 --> 00:24:45,926 Speaker 1: that the Jets are killing and they put a forty 436 00:24:45,966 --> 00:24:49,846 Speaker 1: burger up against my Dolphins. But Robert Sala's group is 437 00:24:49,886 --> 00:24:52,966 Speaker 1: really coming together and that defense is so reminiscent of 438 00:24:53,006 --> 00:24:55,686 Speaker 1: the defense that he built in San Francisco, a defense 439 00:24:55,726 --> 00:24:58,246 Speaker 1: that went all the way to the Supper Bowl not 440 00:24:58,446 --> 00:25:01,326 Speaker 1: that long ago. So I love it. If you like it, 441 00:25:01,726 --> 00:25:04,726 Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. We're a lock step. 442 00:25:04,846 --> 00:25:09,646 Speaker 1: And then also I love this power now, um if 443 00:25:09,686 --> 00:25:13,886 Speaker 1: you know, you know, um, you know, I'm of course, 444 00:25:14,046 --> 00:25:17,366 Speaker 1: and you got a wedn set we didn't have. But 445 00:25:17,486 --> 00:25:20,006 Speaker 1: there's also like an El Salvon or bus. You know, 446 00:25:21,446 --> 00:25:26,206 Speaker 1: they're very similar. So you you came up with Blathan power. 447 00:25:26,366 --> 00:25:29,206 Speaker 1: Talk to me about this, okay, So I want to 448 00:25:29,206 --> 00:25:31,726 Speaker 1: show you my mug here. It's the most Dominican mug 449 00:25:31,726 --> 00:25:33,686 Speaker 1: you can never see. So this is a very typical 450 00:25:34,046 --> 00:25:40,286 Speaker 1: Dominican dish called mangoo. Mangoo essentially is mashed planting. So 451 00:25:40,406 --> 00:25:43,206 Speaker 1: just like mashed potatoes, you boil them, you mash them up, 452 00:25:43,326 --> 00:25:45,926 Speaker 1: tons of butter, and then what we call in dr 453 00:25:46,206 --> 00:25:50,886 Speaker 1: Lorez the three hits. So you got fried cheese, Friday salami, 454 00:25:50,966 --> 00:25:52,886 Speaker 1: a Friday egg, and just a little bit of avocado 455 00:25:52,926 --> 00:25:56,326 Speaker 1: on the side. You guys, this is like my comfort 456 00:25:56,806 --> 00:26:00,806 Speaker 1: love food. My dad is a pro at making this. 457 00:26:00,966 --> 00:26:03,526 Speaker 1: He actually has the mangoo Fridays back in the house. 458 00:26:03,606 --> 00:26:05,806 Speaker 1: It's one of the things that I missed most about 459 00:26:05,926 --> 00:26:08,686 Speaker 1: living in the same city as my parents. But Blatano 460 00:26:08,766 --> 00:26:12,166 Speaker 1: power translates to me like there's a very common phrase 461 00:26:12,206 --> 00:26:14,966 Speaker 1: in the US, of course, like oh, he had his 462 00:26:14,966 --> 00:26:18,286 Speaker 1: wheaties this morning, and the wheelies give gives that certain 463 00:26:18,366 --> 00:26:21,886 Speaker 1: player an edge, Right, that's what if you're familiar with 464 00:26:21,926 --> 00:26:26,126 Speaker 1: baseball and MLB and the slew of Dominican players out there, 465 00:26:26,526 --> 00:26:28,726 Speaker 1: every time they hit a homer, I'm looking at Chuo 466 00:26:28,766 --> 00:26:32,686 Speaker 1: Manny Machado, I'm looking at un Soto. It's Blato power. 467 00:26:32,806 --> 00:26:35,806 Speaker 1: That's where they get their power from. So if I'm 468 00:26:35,846 --> 00:26:37,846 Speaker 1: looking at a guy who absolutely had a big old 469 00:26:37,846 --> 00:26:42,646 Speaker 1: plate of mangou last week, maybe my dad made it 470 00:26:42,646 --> 00:26:48,286 Speaker 1: for him. Josh Allen unbelievable. He has been playing lights 471 00:26:48,286 --> 00:26:51,886 Speaker 1: out for several seasons, but there's just something that switched 472 00:26:52,166 --> 00:26:55,126 Speaker 1: this year where he somehow took it to the next level. 473 00:26:55,126 --> 00:26:58,766 Speaker 1: Did you see him hurtling guys? Oh yeah, out at Arrowhead? 474 00:26:58,806 --> 00:27:02,286 Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? He's a big, big dude. For 475 00:27:02,326 --> 00:27:05,446 Speaker 1: those who have never stood in Josh Allen's presence, I 476 00:27:05,606 --> 00:27:07,486 Speaker 1: was maybe two or three feet away from him on 477 00:27:07,526 --> 00:27:10,246 Speaker 1: the sidelines at hard Rock Stadium in Miami, and I 478 00:27:10,326 --> 00:27:12,806 Speaker 1: literally did a take from like bottom to top and 479 00:27:13,046 --> 00:27:16,446 Speaker 1: went all the way up like he is so big. 480 00:27:16,846 --> 00:27:19,526 Speaker 1: That's a big boy, and he's out there jumping over folks. 481 00:27:19,566 --> 00:27:23,646 Speaker 1: I'm like he had some blatanels man power, Josh Allen. Man, 482 00:27:23,926 --> 00:27:25,926 Speaker 1: if he hasn't had any yet, maybe I can call 483 00:27:26,006 --> 00:27:28,046 Speaker 1: Kyle Brant, I know they're friends, and get them a 484 00:27:28,046 --> 00:27:32,846 Speaker 1: good u good serving of Yeah. And also why you're 485 00:27:33,166 --> 00:27:36,526 Speaker 1: as give me? Can you just get me a lipatour too? 486 00:27:36,606 --> 00:27:38,686 Speaker 1: Because That's what I'm gonna need after I had that. 487 00:27:52,686 --> 00:27:56,886 Speaker 1: What a treat m JA We are joined by a 488 00:27:56,966 --> 00:28:01,206 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer by the name of Tom Flores, who 489 00:28:01,326 --> 00:28:06,406 Speaker 1: was an absolute legend, totally classing up our podcasts. Yes, 490 00:28:07,726 --> 00:28:12,846 Speaker 1: amazing career, amazing man and coach. So great to have 491 00:28:12,926 --> 00:28:16,766 Speaker 1: you on our podcast. Uh yeah, I see that you have. 492 00:28:17,166 --> 00:28:21,086 Speaker 1: You're wearing your Hall of Fame shirt, your polo. Are 493 00:28:21,126 --> 00:28:24,366 Speaker 1: you sleeping with the Hall of Fame jacket? Is the 494 00:28:24,406 --> 00:28:32,006 Speaker 1: old jacket your pajamas. I'm not gonna tell you that 495 00:28:32,006 --> 00:28:33,726 Speaker 1: that's still too hot here in the day. So I 496 00:28:33,846 --> 00:28:37,166 Speaker 1: didn't agree here the desert. I don't work for jams, 497 00:28:37,286 --> 00:28:42,326 Speaker 1: but I will. Well. Well, but it's now been um 498 00:28:42,846 --> 00:28:45,766 Speaker 1: over a year since you were inducted into the Pro 499 00:28:45,846 --> 00:28:48,846 Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame. So how do you think that 500 00:28:49,006 --> 00:28:53,806 Speaker 1: your life has changed since you finally got that? Calls change, 501 00:28:54,766 --> 00:28:58,486 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's I've been I've been a nursing 502 00:28:59,006 --> 00:29:01,526 Speaker 1: a back injury and a hip injury, so I've been. 503 00:29:02,086 --> 00:29:03,766 Speaker 1: I've had a chance to go out of poll. But 504 00:29:03,846 --> 00:29:07,566 Speaker 1: I noticed a different going on in public. People thank 505 00:29:07,606 --> 00:29:11,446 Speaker 1: you me, thank you, thank you, and thank you for 506 00:29:11,486 --> 00:29:14,806 Speaker 1: what you've done. Again. You know, everyone's in a while, 507 00:29:15,006 --> 00:29:20,206 Speaker 1: a little cloud, a little applause, and so it has changed. 508 00:29:20,286 --> 00:29:25,566 Speaker 1: They acknowledge your more. They're not they're not embarrassed to 509 00:29:25,646 --> 00:29:28,766 Speaker 1: come and acknowledge you, to acknowledge you. And so that's 510 00:29:29,366 --> 00:29:31,766 Speaker 1: those things that are all. They kind of made things 511 00:29:31,766 --> 00:29:34,526 Speaker 1: that make you feel good. How big of an impact 512 00:29:35,446 --> 00:29:38,046 Speaker 1: has it made to your immediate family when you know 513 00:29:38,206 --> 00:29:41,526 Speaker 1: that the Latino family as a whole has not just 514 00:29:41,566 --> 00:29:44,486 Speaker 1: embraced you, but to your point coming up to you 515 00:29:44,766 --> 00:29:48,446 Speaker 1: thanking you for what you've done. I mean, I when 516 00:29:48,566 --> 00:29:50,286 Speaker 1: the last time we spoke, you said, you know, this 517 00:29:50,406 --> 00:29:52,926 Speaker 1: is just my passion. What I love the fact that 518 00:29:52,966 --> 00:29:55,846 Speaker 1: it impacts other people is sort of a beautiful bonus. 519 00:29:56,366 --> 00:30:01,126 Speaker 1: They are very silently aware what's going on, and they 520 00:30:01,166 --> 00:30:06,166 Speaker 1: st reflect the its. Also. They were very proud. I 521 00:30:06,286 --> 00:30:13,486 Speaker 1: have my children, my daughter in laws, and my grandchildren. 522 00:30:14,246 --> 00:30:17,206 Speaker 1: They all they I tell you, they got the whole 523 00:30:17,526 --> 00:30:20,086 Speaker 1: where they were there for the whole thing, and Cannon 524 00:30:20,206 --> 00:30:24,526 Speaker 1: and they the grandkids finally got a taste of what 525 00:30:24,606 --> 00:30:29,326 Speaker 1: little Grandpa does. Hey hey yeah, they up until that 526 00:30:29,446 --> 00:30:32,126 Speaker 1: time pointing and I was okay, okay, okay, we know 527 00:30:32,486 --> 00:30:35,326 Speaker 1: they want autograph, they want this, they want them. But 528 00:30:35,486 --> 00:30:38,326 Speaker 1: when they were there, boy, I did not their sucks off. 529 00:30:42,366 --> 00:30:44,126 Speaker 1: That was the greatest gid in the world to see 530 00:30:44,206 --> 00:30:47,566 Speaker 1: that happened. Ah, so cool. I can only imagine you 531 00:30:47,606 --> 00:30:53,006 Speaker 1: were like the coolest grandpa around um. And honestly that 532 00:30:53,246 --> 00:30:56,206 Speaker 1: that almost though fits your demeanor as you were as 533 00:30:56,686 --> 00:31:01,526 Speaker 1: as a coach, because from everything that I understand read 534 00:31:01,646 --> 00:31:04,166 Speaker 1: and heard from former players of yours, and you've coached 535 00:31:04,246 --> 00:31:10,166 Speaker 1: some crazy characters in your time, I mean crazy characters. Uh, 536 00:31:10,526 --> 00:31:16,726 Speaker 1: You've always maintained this very cool, calm demeanor. And I've 537 00:31:16,806 --> 00:31:20,846 Speaker 1: heard coaches before say, you know, we will treat you 538 00:31:21,606 --> 00:31:25,446 Speaker 1: with respect, but not necessarily equally. So what was your 539 00:31:25,566 --> 00:31:30,486 Speaker 1: philosophy when you were dealing with players like John Mtuzac, 540 00:31:30,606 --> 00:31:32,966 Speaker 1: who was partying it up and having a good time, 541 00:31:33,086 --> 00:31:35,966 Speaker 1: while yet other guys were a little bit more, you know, 542 00:31:36,126 --> 00:31:40,926 Speaker 1: reserved and more into the playbook. Well, I always told him, 543 00:31:40,966 --> 00:31:45,526 Speaker 1: I said, I used to tell my staff, and I 544 00:31:45,686 --> 00:31:48,686 Speaker 1: told him, when you coach somebody, coach them the way 545 00:31:48,766 --> 00:31:51,726 Speaker 1: you would like to be coached. Don't don't coach him 546 00:31:51,846 --> 00:31:54,246 Speaker 1: Roy somebody else over down the road here that you 547 00:31:54,366 --> 00:31:57,846 Speaker 1: heard someone so does this or their camp. Coach them 548 00:31:57,886 --> 00:31:59,326 Speaker 1: the way you want to coach them, the way you 549 00:31:59,366 --> 00:32:01,726 Speaker 1: want them to play. That's what you do. That's what 550 00:32:01,846 --> 00:32:04,886 Speaker 1: you do. Don't don't make them something they're not. They 551 00:32:04,926 --> 00:32:08,566 Speaker 1: give somebody bring out what they are. And the same 552 00:32:08,646 --> 00:32:11,926 Speaker 1: thing with the people as they don't treat people like 553 00:32:12,086 --> 00:32:15,526 Speaker 1: people just you know, they come by it. And lots 554 00:32:15,526 --> 00:32:17,646 Speaker 1: of time people don't mean they come by their route 555 00:32:18,486 --> 00:32:22,446 Speaker 1: because they're so excited and they don't ready mean it, 556 00:32:22,526 --> 00:32:25,806 Speaker 1: but they don't know what else to do. It's too excited. 557 00:32:26,326 --> 00:32:29,166 Speaker 1: And you know, I can remember the feeling when I 558 00:32:29,326 --> 00:32:31,766 Speaker 1: was a kid. You get excited when you see somebody 559 00:32:31,806 --> 00:32:35,286 Speaker 1: O that guy, somebody, and then then somebody, and then 560 00:32:35,366 --> 00:32:38,206 Speaker 1: later on when I became an adult and and people 561 00:32:38,246 --> 00:32:40,766 Speaker 1: ask for your autogo. Hey, I don't know you or 562 00:32:40,846 --> 00:32:44,646 Speaker 1: you or you're that guy? What did that guy to people? 563 00:32:45,126 --> 00:32:50,606 Speaker 1: I don't know, but you're that guy guy, the raider guy. Yeah, coach, 564 00:32:50,646 --> 00:32:53,726 Speaker 1: I've always wondered if you could take us into the 565 00:32:53,846 --> 00:32:56,366 Speaker 1: huddle for a moment. I'd love you to put your 566 00:32:56,486 --> 00:33:01,446 Speaker 1: your quarterback helmet back on. And what was that transition 567 00:33:01,566 --> 00:33:04,166 Speaker 1: like for you to then going to the sidelines as 568 00:33:04,166 --> 00:33:07,486 Speaker 1: a coach, because it can be a very stark departure. 569 00:33:07,526 --> 00:33:10,886 Speaker 1: It's still the game, right, but two very different roles, 570 00:33:11,086 --> 00:33:14,486 Speaker 1: especially for someone who was the first in many instances 571 00:33:14,646 --> 00:33:18,086 Speaker 1: or the only in many instances. I love the radio 572 00:33:18,206 --> 00:33:22,886 Speaker 1: broadcast was a perfect venue for me because I took 573 00:33:22,966 --> 00:33:26,486 Speaker 1: myself from the radio booth and put myself in a 574 00:33:26,566 --> 00:33:29,686 Speaker 1: nodele okay, now what would I do, and took it 575 00:33:29,806 --> 00:33:32,486 Speaker 1: from there and try to try to tell the people 576 00:33:33,366 --> 00:33:35,446 Speaker 1: what they were about to see or what they were 577 00:33:35,526 --> 00:33:38,686 Speaker 1: seeing and what they just saw. You can't do that 578 00:33:38,766 --> 00:33:40,766 Speaker 1: on TV all the time because you're already telling the 579 00:33:40,846 --> 00:33:43,246 Speaker 1: people what they're looking at. I had fun doing it 580 00:33:43,326 --> 00:33:45,206 Speaker 1: because in doing so, I went back and played the 581 00:33:45,286 --> 00:33:47,886 Speaker 1: game and that was easy. Well, and you talk a 582 00:33:48,046 --> 00:33:52,206 Speaker 1: sixty year career in the NFL that you had highly 583 00:33:52,366 --> 00:33:57,366 Speaker 1: decorated one at that you know, you had a working 584 00:33:57,446 --> 00:34:01,126 Speaker 1: relationship with Al Davis, and the late Al Davis was 585 00:34:01,166 --> 00:34:06,006 Speaker 1: seen as this maverick, but he is one of the 586 00:34:06,686 --> 00:34:09,286 Speaker 1: people that made the NFL what it is today, and 587 00:34:09,406 --> 00:34:13,406 Speaker 1: he was a visionary. And when you look back at 588 00:34:13,726 --> 00:34:17,166 Speaker 1: some of the people that he hired, such as yourself 589 00:34:17,326 --> 00:34:21,326 Speaker 1: as a head coach. Then Amy Trask was also with 590 00:34:21,526 --> 00:34:26,846 Speaker 1: the Raiders. Art Shell was also head coach for the Raiders. 591 00:34:27,726 --> 00:34:30,446 Speaker 1: How cognit is that do you think he was of 592 00:34:31,006 --> 00:34:36,926 Speaker 1: the hiring process and who he wanted and the representation 593 00:34:37,606 --> 00:34:40,766 Speaker 1: that he wanted. Well, you knew a lot of Some 594 00:34:40,886 --> 00:34:43,886 Speaker 1: of it happened a little bit by accident, but most 595 00:34:43,966 --> 00:34:46,686 Speaker 1: of it was planned. He knew that he won the 596 00:34:47,206 --> 00:34:49,166 Speaker 1: step of team and this type of team and a 597 00:34:49,206 --> 00:34:52,806 Speaker 1: big team and a fast team, and obviously we had 598 00:34:52,886 --> 00:34:55,486 Speaker 1: needed to win football games. But when he had no 599 00:34:55,686 --> 00:34:58,846 Speaker 1: clue on what it was like to be in the 600 00:34:59,046 --> 00:35:03,526 Speaker 1: in the Hispanic world as a sports fan. And so 601 00:35:03,726 --> 00:35:07,806 Speaker 1: when we were to La, he his socks. Okay, so 602 00:35:07,966 --> 00:35:11,486 Speaker 1: you know you're you know, these people really like you 603 00:35:11,606 --> 00:35:16,046 Speaker 1: down here? I say, yeah, yeah, they're there there there 604 00:35:16,326 --> 00:35:19,966 Speaker 1: there his bandocks. Oh, yeah, there they are. They really 605 00:35:20,086 --> 00:35:22,326 Speaker 1: like you. They like the Raiders, you know, they like 606 00:35:22,646 --> 00:35:27,046 Speaker 1: us us, They welcome us with open arms. He had 607 00:35:27,126 --> 00:35:32,606 Speaker 1: trouble because he couldn't understand why. But but he couldn't 608 00:35:32,646 --> 00:35:37,406 Speaker 1: understand why he wanted them. That's what he wanted. Do 609 00:35:37,526 --> 00:35:39,926 Speaker 1: you want everybody to like you, to want you? But 610 00:35:40,086 --> 00:35:42,046 Speaker 1: when they do, you know, if you can't understand why 611 00:35:42,086 --> 00:35:46,286 Speaker 1: they why are they these people doing it as a culture, 612 00:35:46,926 --> 00:35:50,046 Speaker 1: and then we are we are you know, his bank team. Um, 613 00:35:50,806 --> 00:35:53,926 Speaker 1: they love they love their Raiders. Preaching to the choir 614 00:35:54,046 --> 00:35:55,926 Speaker 1: here with you, coach, because you know, I wasn't gratiated 615 00:35:56,046 --> 00:35:58,486 Speaker 1: in Oakland when the Raiders were still over there covering 616 00:35:58,566 --> 00:36:00,926 Speaker 1: that team when I first started with the NFL network, 617 00:36:01,046 --> 00:36:04,286 Speaker 1: and there is there is no fan base, no disrespect 618 00:36:04,326 --> 00:36:07,286 Speaker 1: to the other teams. There is no fan base quite 619 00:36:07,406 --> 00:36:12,206 Speaker 1: like Raider Nation. True, it's very distinct, it's very passionate. 620 00:36:13,086 --> 00:36:17,206 Speaker 1: And for me specifically, I know exactly what you're talking 621 00:36:17,246 --> 00:36:18,726 Speaker 1: about there, because when they learned that I was a 622 00:36:18,846 --> 00:36:22,086 Speaker 1: Latina reporter covering the team, they basically took me in. 623 00:36:22,726 --> 00:36:26,006 Speaker 1: Took me in so forcefully, in fact, that when I 624 00:36:26,086 --> 00:36:28,526 Speaker 1: pick against the Raiders sometimes not because I want to, 625 00:36:28,686 --> 00:36:31,086 Speaker 1: but because you know, the matchup is just tough. They 626 00:36:31,166 --> 00:36:34,126 Speaker 1: come at me. They come at me, and I get it, 627 00:36:34,286 --> 00:36:36,646 Speaker 1: and I love that, and I'm ready for that discourse. 628 00:36:36,926 --> 00:36:40,886 Speaker 1: So let's talk about this current now Las Vegas Raiders team, coach. 629 00:36:41,366 --> 00:36:44,566 Speaker 1: Not sure how closely you've been following the team this year. 630 00:36:44,606 --> 00:36:46,846 Speaker 1: They're coming off a bye week, a very tough loss 631 00:36:47,246 --> 00:36:50,206 Speaker 1: against the Chiefs, a game in which many of us thought, 632 00:36:50,566 --> 00:36:52,646 Speaker 1: oh man, the Raiders are gonna win this. They're right 633 00:36:52,726 --> 00:36:54,886 Speaker 1: there at the door. What do you see in the 634 00:36:54,966 --> 00:36:58,046 Speaker 1: evolution of this team now under Josh McDaniel, nowen and 635 00:36:58,166 --> 00:37:00,366 Speaker 1: where they're trying to go with all the pieces they've 636 00:37:00,366 --> 00:37:03,886 Speaker 1: added as well, Davante Adams being one of the most prominent, 637 00:37:04,846 --> 00:37:07,046 Speaker 1: like him all I him. I liked some of the 638 00:37:07,166 --> 00:37:11,806 Speaker 1: pieces they've added to the puzzle. And and they're they're 639 00:37:11,846 --> 00:37:14,206 Speaker 1: getting you know, they're they want the people to like them. 640 00:37:14,366 --> 00:37:16,966 Speaker 1: I want the people to like them. But you and 641 00:37:17,206 --> 00:37:19,686 Speaker 1: he knew that you had to win. When whenever we 642 00:37:19,886 --> 00:37:29,086 Speaker 1: moved somewhere, which was often, uh you know, you think 643 00:37:29,166 --> 00:37:33,526 Speaker 1: back who came with us the Raider nation? Yea, where 644 00:37:33,526 --> 00:37:37,926 Speaker 1: did they go wherever we were, wherever we played, that's 645 00:37:38,006 --> 00:37:40,766 Speaker 1: where they were. In the lobbies, in the parking lots, 646 00:37:40,886 --> 00:37:45,886 Speaker 1: at the airports, they were, and they're they're they're pretty distinguishable. Uh. 647 00:37:46,886 --> 00:37:50,766 Speaker 1: It looks scary, but they're really not scary. And they're 648 00:37:50,766 --> 00:37:52,966 Speaker 1: just a lot of fun to be a run handy. 649 00:37:53,606 --> 00:37:57,126 Speaker 1: They got mad at us, Our fans got mad at 650 00:37:57,206 --> 00:37:59,526 Speaker 1: us because we lived openly. I got mad at us 651 00:37:59,566 --> 00:38:03,326 Speaker 1: because we loved them. But we still load us. They 652 00:38:03,406 --> 00:38:06,006 Speaker 1: still not us. I should say, I still love the 653 00:38:06,086 --> 00:38:10,486 Speaker 1: team and who as a team. I want to them 654 00:38:10,686 --> 00:38:14,286 Speaker 1: and I always will I was the very first guy 655 00:38:14,326 --> 00:38:19,366 Speaker 1: in training camp in nineteen sixty. Wow, well, I go 656 00:38:19,446 --> 00:38:22,206 Speaker 1: by a long way with those guys. Such a passionate 657 00:38:22,286 --> 00:38:25,526 Speaker 1: fan base and the way that they feel about you know, 658 00:38:25,646 --> 00:38:29,406 Speaker 1: the tradition as well. That's there. Um, you've been in 659 00:38:29,446 --> 00:38:33,646 Speaker 1: the position that Josh McDaniels has been in before and 660 00:38:34,246 --> 00:38:40,326 Speaker 1: him trying to uh jump start the team now under 661 00:38:40,566 --> 00:38:46,046 Speaker 1: his image. So what would there be any any advice 662 00:38:46,126 --> 00:38:48,726 Speaker 1: that you would give him given the fact that he's 663 00:38:48,766 --> 00:38:51,846 Speaker 1: playing in the division that also has Patrick Mahomes and 664 00:38:51,966 --> 00:38:54,846 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, you know with the Chargers and and and 665 00:38:55,006 --> 00:39:01,126 Speaker 1: Chiefs there. Yeah, I know they also Wilson now, so yeah, 666 00:39:01,246 --> 00:39:04,446 Speaker 1: already have a big name in the National Football League. 667 00:39:04,926 --> 00:39:09,286 Speaker 1: I tell you you can't. Don't try to create something 668 00:39:09,406 --> 00:39:13,206 Speaker 1: that you can't. Just made it to make it better, 669 00:39:13,446 --> 00:39:16,286 Speaker 1: make it. The Raiders are the Raiders that they are 670 00:39:16,446 --> 00:39:19,166 Speaker 1: that they are because of how they how they play, 671 00:39:19,766 --> 00:39:22,606 Speaker 1: how they travel, how they react to the fans and 672 00:39:22,686 --> 00:39:25,326 Speaker 1: all the fans react to them. And they don't try 673 00:39:25,366 --> 00:39:29,046 Speaker 1: to don't try to be somebody or not. That's one 674 00:39:29,086 --> 00:39:32,246 Speaker 1: thing that we were I never did. I said, I 675 00:39:32,366 --> 00:39:35,086 Speaker 1: am well Am I told Alan when I took over 676 00:39:35,206 --> 00:39:38,446 Speaker 1: for your coach, Abandon. I said, I'm not John. I said, 677 00:39:38,526 --> 00:39:40,646 Speaker 1: I can't. I gonna be screaming and yell in the 678 00:39:40,726 --> 00:39:44,206 Speaker 1: sidelines like John did. But I will give you everything 679 00:39:44,646 --> 00:39:47,286 Speaker 1: and I'll help you win. And he said, I know 680 00:39:47,406 --> 00:39:50,206 Speaker 1: you're not. I know you're not. And he knew. He knew. 681 00:39:50,526 --> 00:39:53,766 Speaker 1: I don't knew, but but he let you find out 682 00:39:53,846 --> 00:39:56,806 Speaker 1: on your own. I like that. They're tough lessons, and 683 00:39:56,886 --> 00:39:59,926 Speaker 1: it's not easy being a head coach in this league. 684 00:40:00,406 --> 00:40:03,886 Speaker 1: It's certainly not easy for a franchise as storied UM 685 00:40:04,166 --> 00:40:08,166 Speaker 1: and as sort of beholden to that identity, to your 686 00:40:08,206 --> 00:40:12,686 Speaker 1: point coach, as the Raiders UM. I'd love to discuss 687 00:40:12,966 --> 00:40:15,006 Speaker 1: another team with you, Prickly, if if I can pick 688 00:40:15,086 --> 00:40:17,406 Speaker 1: your brain here for a minute, because you mentioned Russ 689 00:40:18,006 --> 00:40:20,166 Speaker 1: and Russ now being in this division and being with 690 00:40:20,286 --> 00:40:24,326 Speaker 1: the Broncos, and there seems to be a disconnect within 691 00:40:24,486 --> 00:40:27,566 Speaker 1: that offense. Something is just not clicking and all of 692 00:40:27,686 --> 00:40:29,886 Speaker 1: us are racking our brains trying to figure out what 693 00:40:30,006 --> 00:40:33,086 Speaker 1: it is. Is there something that you've seen, perhaps that 694 00:40:33,966 --> 00:40:36,606 Speaker 1: you would give advice to Russell or even to Nathaniel 695 00:40:36,646 --> 00:40:40,406 Speaker 1: Hackett on how to bring this on paper, very talented 696 00:40:40,486 --> 00:40:44,166 Speaker 1: offense together to be where they should be. Nathaniel, it 697 00:40:44,286 --> 00:40:47,126 Speaker 1: was that we got along the length and played against 698 00:40:47,246 --> 00:40:53,686 Speaker 1: and with coach with her dad, Um, you might. That's 699 00:40:53,726 --> 00:40:55,926 Speaker 1: what I meant by don't try to be somebody you're not. 700 00:40:57,926 --> 00:41:00,646 Speaker 1: You have to be what? What is? What? What do 701 00:41:00,726 --> 00:41:03,166 Speaker 1: you have there in front of you? Coach that and 702 00:41:03,366 --> 00:41:06,366 Speaker 1: makes that better? And and don't try to change. You 703 00:41:06,486 --> 00:41:09,726 Speaker 1: can't coach anybody else's stuff. Because when you're coaching and 704 00:41:09,806 --> 00:41:12,926 Speaker 1: you're in the heat of the battle and it's time 705 00:41:12,966 --> 00:41:15,006 Speaker 1: to make a decision, you're going to make the decision 706 00:41:15,086 --> 00:41:19,566 Speaker 1: based on your motion and your your instincts. You're not 707 00:41:19,646 --> 00:41:22,966 Speaker 1: gonna make it because of well, you'ren't gonna stand what 708 00:41:24,046 --> 00:41:27,846 Speaker 1: all the john would have done, what the shooter have done. 709 00:41:29,006 --> 00:41:31,606 Speaker 1: Do what you're going to do, and if it works, 710 00:41:32,526 --> 00:41:37,366 Speaker 1: you're going to be successful. If it doesn't, well, packer 711 00:41:37,446 --> 00:41:43,886 Speaker 1: bags the tough business boy it is, And how can 712 00:41:43,966 --> 00:41:47,726 Speaker 1: you expect anything? This is what, brother, this is what 713 00:41:47,886 --> 00:41:50,446 Speaker 1: the tough one. I don't have an answer for this one. 714 00:41:51,406 --> 00:41:55,606 Speaker 1: How can you win with with say axiliary, ten different 715 00:41:55,646 --> 00:42:01,046 Speaker 1: coordinators in ten years? How are you winning? Yeah? Ridiculous? No, No, 716 00:42:01,206 --> 00:42:04,486 Speaker 1: you're right, um, and you know, coach so MJ's asking 717 00:42:04,526 --> 00:42:07,606 Speaker 1: you about Russell Wilson and the Broncos. So MJ, you 718 00:42:07,766 --> 00:42:09,886 Speaker 1: know that Raider Nation is going to come after you 719 00:42:09,886 --> 00:42:12,686 Speaker 1: and say why why did you ask about the Bronco 720 00:42:15,326 --> 00:42:17,406 Speaker 1: I just I hadn't read that, but um, you know, 721 00:42:17,486 --> 00:42:20,966 Speaker 1: coach you you had said, Um, I'd read somewhere that 722 00:42:21,046 --> 00:42:24,006 Speaker 1: you you thought or you think that there is going 723 00:42:24,086 --> 00:42:27,766 Speaker 1: to be a team in Mexico City. Now. Now there 724 00:42:27,926 --> 00:42:31,366 Speaker 1: is talk that the NFL also wants to expand and 725 00:42:31,566 --> 00:42:35,526 Speaker 1: have a team or teams in London. So what makes 726 00:42:35,526 --> 00:42:38,526 Speaker 1: you think that there will eventually be a team in 727 00:42:38,606 --> 00:42:41,966 Speaker 1: Mexico City. Well, supplying to Man, you know they love 728 00:42:42,046 --> 00:42:46,206 Speaker 1: they love the Raiders and they love the Cowboys. Two 729 00:42:46,326 --> 00:42:50,566 Speaker 1: teams to do two different divisions, it would make a 730 00:42:50,646 --> 00:42:55,326 Speaker 1: match of worry and wherever they would they would travel 731 00:42:55,406 --> 00:42:57,806 Speaker 1: well with them. But I don't know. That's that's a 732 00:42:57,886 --> 00:43:01,006 Speaker 1: long way away though. That's I don't know there will 733 00:43:01,046 --> 00:43:03,606 Speaker 1: be around that one. But that's a long way around. 734 00:43:03,686 --> 00:43:07,766 Speaker 1: But they do, Rullo, we're American football. I was at 735 00:43:07,846 --> 00:43:11,566 Speaker 1: the Mexico City game in twenty nineteen before the pandemic. 736 00:43:11,686 --> 00:43:14,766 Speaker 1: I'll be heading there this year as well, and um 737 00:43:14,966 --> 00:43:17,846 Speaker 1: Estadiostika is probably one of my favorite venues where I've 738 00:43:17,926 --> 00:43:22,366 Speaker 1: seen um an American football game played outside of the US. 739 00:43:22,446 --> 00:43:24,766 Speaker 1: We just went to London for Tottenham Hotspur and the 740 00:43:24,966 --> 00:43:28,966 Speaker 1: energy is just unmatched there. Um coach, I'd love to 741 00:43:29,046 --> 00:43:32,846 Speaker 1: get um, not your thoughts, but your message perhaps to 742 00:43:33,526 --> 00:43:37,886 Speaker 1: this new this new generation of NFL stars, not just 743 00:43:38,006 --> 00:43:41,246 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, but we see the defensive players. Everyone sort 744 00:43:41,286 --> 00:43:44,286 Speaker 1: of comes into the league as a hybrid of sorts 745 00:43:44,326 --> 00:43:48,006 Speaker 1: and the game is changing and evolving. How do you 746 00:43:48,166 --> 00:43:50,286 Speaker 1: see the game now from your perspective? I mean, you've 747 00:43:50,326 --> 00:43:53,006 Speaker 1: seen it all in your tenure. What do you see 748 00:43:53,046 --> 00:43:57,406 Speaker 1: from this new class? Specialized? It's a real specialized game. 749 00:43:57,446 --> 00:44:01,246 Speaker 1: We're gonna look at our our defensive man just as 750 00:44:01,326 --> 00:44:06,486 Speaker 1: good as there there is Backs Crosby, Yeah right now, 751 00:44:06,606 --> 00:44:10,206 Speaker 1: look at him. He's playing like like that's where he belongs. 752 00:44:10,686 --> 00:44:13,206 Speaker 1: They found him, They gave me a chance, They gave 753 00:44:13,246 --> 00:44:16,446 Speaker 1: him a chance, and he delivered for him and and 754 00:44:16,686 --> 00:44:22,846 Speaker 1: he has. He has taken that that unit and raised 755 00:44:23,006 --> 00:44:27,086 Speaker 1: a level of complication and that unit of alone defensive unit, 756 00:44:27,686 --> 00:44:29,926 Speaker 1: and that's what they needed. They needed a jump started 757 00:44:29,966 --> 00:44:34,286 Speaker 1: the defensive line, and he Max is mad Max. That's 758 00:44:34,446 --> 00:44:38,206 Speaker 1: the name I'm trying to think of. Mad Max. He's 759 00:44:38,246 --> 00:44:45,166 Speaker 1: created a madness of the tusas of a while Elsatosh, 760 00:44:45,726 --> 00:44:49,886 Speaker 1: So I can get any better than that. Coach Hall 761 00:44:49,966 --> 00:44:53,086 Speaker 1: of Famer, I always like to say, that's my quarterback. 762 00:44:53,806 --> 00:44:56,406 Speaker 1: All of the above and so much more, Tom Floores, 763 00:44:56,566 --> 00:44:58,566 Speaker 1: we thank you so much for coming on in huddle 764 00:44:58,726 --> 00:45:01,966 Speaker 1: and for sharing story time with with with Coach Flores 765 00:45:02,046 --> 00:45:03,686 Speaker 1: is probably my favorite, So we thank you so much 766 00:45:03,726 --> 00:45:12,566 Speaker 1: for coming on here. We appre. One thing I will 767 00:45:12,686 --> 00:45:15,846 Speaker 1: never ever get over is being able to talk to 768 00:45:16,566 --> 00:45:20,206 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame coach Tom Flores. He is just a 769 00:45:20,366 --> 00:45:23,686 Speaker 1: class act all around. I'm so so happy that we 770 00:45:23,766 --> 00:45:27,526 Speaker 1: got to have story time with yeah, and you know, 771 00:45:27,646 --> 00:45:30,366 Speaker 1: and also too, I'm so glad that he finally got 772 00:45:30,446 --> 00:45:32,646 Speaker 1: the call and that he's in the Hall of Fame 773 00:45:32,726 --> 00:45:35,726 Speaker 1: where he belongs. And you know, he had talked about 774 00:45:35,806 --> 00:45:38,486 Speaker 1: how people come up to him and say thank you 775 00:45:39,166 --> 00:45:42,486 Speaker 1: for being you and being the example that you are. 776 00:45:42,806 --> 00:45:45,086 Speaker 1: And you know, I grew up just like I'm sure 777 00:45:45,166 --> 00:45:48,206 Speaker 1: you grew up with parents, had said, Oh Meda, I 778 00:45:48,286 --> 00:45:52,846 Speaker 1: said Latino Meda, I said Latino Mida Florida Latino and 779 00:45:53,006 --> 00:45:56,366 Speaker 1: so there is a source of pride no matter who 780 00:45:56,446 --> 00:46:00,526 Speaker 1: your team is, your home team, which is you and 781 00:46:00,646 --> 00:46:04,926 Speaker 1: your family. Like that's important, right, And uh, listening to 782 00:46:05,086 --> 00:46:09,086 Speaker 1: him and seeing him certainly admirable, can talk ball with 783 00:46:09,206 --> 00:46:13,646 Speaker 1: the best of them, and you know, you relive kind 784 00:46:13,686 --> 00:46:17,126 Speaker 1: of the glory of the Raiders and what they've meant 785 00:46:17,206 --> 00:46:21,646 Speaker 1: to the NFL and and what his career has has 786 00:46:22,086 --> 00:46:26,406 Speaker 1: again meant to the Hispanic community and to us. M 787 00:46:26,526 --> 00:46:29,006 Speaker 1: Jay right, no question, And for me it's still I 788 00:46:29,086 --> 00:46:30,686 Speaker 1: know we're talking to him now and he's got his 789 00:46:30,966 --> 00:46:33,206 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame polo on, but like the vision in 790 00:46:33,326 --> 00:46:36,446 Speaker 1: my head, it's still young Tom floor is on the sidelines, 791 00:46:36,486 --> 00:46:38,886 Speaker 1: but the pop collar and the bell bottom pants on, 792 00:46:39,046 --> 00:46:43,006 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's what. I actually have a momento memorabilia 793 00:46:43,286 --> 00:46:45,966 Speaker 1: a photo of that here, and it's just like he's 794 00:46:46,006 --> 00:46:48,526 Speaker 1: a badass, Like that's who he is and that's how 795 00:46:48,566 --> 00:46:51,046 Speaker 1: he represented that. He still is that to this day. 796 00:46:51,086 --> 00:46:53,246 Speaker 1: So I love hearing those stories and I love being 797 00:46:53,286 --> 00:46:54,846 Speaker 1: able to just chop it up with him. How lucky 798 00:46:54,886 --> 00:46:57,366 Speaker 1: are we look at us? I know, talking to Hall 799 00:46:57,406 --> 00:47:00,446 Speaker 1: of famers, that's all that we're doing here, that's all 800 00:47:00,486 --> 00:47:03,646 Speaker 1: that we do. So whoever our next guest is, you 801 00:47:03,806 --> 00:47:08,006 Speaker 1: better be a Hall of Fame. Uh no, no, we come, one, 802 00:47:08,126 --> 00:47:11,526 Speaker 1: come all, We welcome all of you. Also, by the way, 803 00:47:11,806 --> 00:47:16,486 Speaker 1: I don't believe he has Hall of Fame pajamas, which 804 00:47:16,486 --> 00:47:21,006 Speaker 1: I ask, Yeah so so, But either way, uh Coach 805 00:47:21,046 --> 00:47:25,046 Speaker 1: Flora's love having you. 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