1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: By from the Bloomberg Interacted Berker Studios. This is Bloomberg 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: day Break for Wednesday, March twenty second. Coming up today, 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: the Fed is caught between inflation and a banking crisis 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: as investors await today's rate decision. UK inflation jumps ahead 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: of tomorrow's Bank of England meeting. New developments on a 6 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: possible rescue of First Republic Bank, and game stops sores 7 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: as the video game retailer posts a surprise prophet Chinese 8 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: president she has left Moscow after a three day state 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: visit with Vladimir Putin. Plus new developments in a cold 10 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,279 Speaker 1: murder case on Staten Island. I'm Michael Barner. What We're 11 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: a hand? I'm John Stash. Aaron's towards a win for 12 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: the Islanders, losses for the Rangers, Devils, and that's Japan 13 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: beat the US and won the World Baseball Classic. That's 14 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: all straight ahead on Bloomberg day Break, The Business News 15 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: you need, disturb your day, and just one fifteen minute 16 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: podcast each pointing on Apple's Spotify, The Bloomberg Business Appen 17 00:00:55,120 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: everywhere you get your podcasts. Good morning, I'm Nathan Hagar 18 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: and I'm Kieron Moscow. Here are the stories we're following today. 19 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: We begin with today's FED meeting. It seemed like a 20 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: slam dunk just over a week ago, but now there 21 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: are questions about whether the Fed will raise rates. This afternoon, 22 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: we get the latest from Bloomberg's Michael McKee. This is 23 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: the first meeting in a very long time where nobody 24 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: on Wall Street really knows what the Fed will do. 25 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: Two weeks ago, it was a question of whether they 26 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,559 Speaker 1: raised rates half or a quarter percentage point, But disruptions 27 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: to the banking system now have many investors betting the 28 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: central bank won't raise rates at all. Financial shares have 29 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: calmed a bit in the last two days, and markets 30 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: have almost gotten back to pricing one quarter point move. 31 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 1: Do Fed officials still need to do crisis management or 32 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: can they go back to their focus on inflation, which 33 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: remains far above target? Michael McKey, Bloomberg Daybreak Right, Mike, 34 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: thanks well. The banking crisis is putting FED chair J 35 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: Powell in a tough predicament today. That's according to Bloomberg 36 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: opinion calumnist Muhammed Aliarian, It's going to be really tough 37 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: to sit in, really really tough. I think he's got 38 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: a stick to the framework that the European Central Bank 39 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: said out very well, and President la god had a 40 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: masterclass in her press conference on this, which is we 41 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: are aiming both for christ stability and for financial stability, 42 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: and we have tools to address both of these things, 43 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: and we must not sacrifice either of them. Bloomberg opinion 44 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: calumnist Muhammadhlarian said the fedge it still high rates by 45 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: twenty five basis points. Well. Complete coverage of today's FED 46 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: decision and news conference coming up on a special edition 47 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: of Bloomberg Surveillance. It all starts at one thirty pm 48 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: Eastern on Bloomberg Radio and Television, Well Karen. Inflation is 49 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: also front and center in Europe this morning. A head 50 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: of tomorrow's Bank of England rate decision, prices in the 51 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: UK unexpectedly rose for the first time in four months. 52 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Lizzie Burden has more from London. If you're one 53 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: of the hawks on the committee, like Catherine Man, you're 54 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: going to be feeling vindicated. She's been warning about the 55 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: persistence of stubbornly high inflation, about getting in control of 56 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: inflation expectations. You've already seen ECB doing fifty basis points. 57 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: It was a debate over whether you prioritize cutting inflation 58 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: show confidence in the banking system, or whether you reckon 59 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: that that banking stress has tightened financial conditions enough that 60 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 1: it's done the work for you. I think that this 61 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: tips the argument a bit more towards prioritizing inflation. Bloomberg's 62 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: Lizzie Burden says uk CPI rose ten point four percent 63 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: in February as food and drink prices sort at their 64 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: fastest pace in forty five years. Well, banking, of course, 65 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: is also a front and center in Europe. Nathan. After 66 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: taking over credits Sweet, sa Ubys is now offering to 67 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: buy back bonds sold before the acquisition. UBS says it'll 68 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: buy back three billion dollars of bonds sold just days 69 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:51,279 Speaker 1: before the deal. In light of the quote exceptional developments 70 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: that took place on Sunday. Back here in the US, Karing, 71 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: the future of First Republic Bank remains in question, and 72 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: we get the latest live with Bloomberg. Steve Rappaport, Good morning, Steve, 73 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: Good morning, Nathan and Karen. The answer to First Republic's 74 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: problems could be a joint solution from the public and 75 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: the private sectors. Sources tell us big banks and US 76 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: officials are exploring government backing to encourage a deal for 77 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: propping up the lender. Some options on the table include 78 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: offering liability protection and more flexibility for capital rules. While 79 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: investors have expressed interest in helping the firm's unrealized losses 80 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: remain a concern. First Republic shares are up three percent 81 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: in early trading, Live in New York. I'm Steve Rappaport, 82 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Daybreak. All right, Steve, thanks, So there's some other 83 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: stocks on the move this morning. Shares of game Stop 84 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: are surging. They are up more than thirty eight percent 85 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: in the pre market. That's after the video game retailer 86 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: reported a surprise profit. Game Stop reported net income of 87 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: forty eight million dollars for its first profit in two years, 88 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: and that rally in game Stop shares. Karen has some 89 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: other so called meme stocks on the rise as well. 90 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 1: Look at AMC Entertainment. It's up nine and a half 91 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: percent in early trading. There doesn't appear to be any 92 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: catalyst for that game outside of game Stop. And on 93 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: the flip side, Nathan shares of Nike. They're lower, down 94 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: one and a half percent. The company did post profit 95 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: above estimates, but it also says gross margins for the 96 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: year would be at the low end of expectations. Let's 97 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: turn to politics now. Karen in New York. Today, security 98 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: barricades remain up outside the Manhattan Criminal Court ahead of 99 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: a possible indictment of former President Donald Trump. We get 100 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: the very latest life from Bloomberg's John Tucker, John and Nathan. 101 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: The former president could be indicted by a Manhattan grand 102 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: jury as soon as this week, potentially charged with falsifying 103 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: business records connected to hush money payments. Trump issued a 104 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: call in to his supporters to protest a bomb threat 105 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: closed the court yesterday. Among his supporters, Brian Style, the 106 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: Republican chair of the House Administration Committee, he fired off 107 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: a letter to Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg, asking him to 108 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: answer questions about his investigation. I think there's appropriate questions 109 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: in a case that this significant is to why it's 110 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: moving forward in the way it is. I think the 111 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: American people deserve to know, then, sir, leave, asked Congress 112 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: Bryan Style spoke to Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Sound on. 113 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: Former President Trump had expected to be arrested yesterday Live 114 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: in New York on John Tucker Bloomberg Daybreak. It's forty 115 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 1: seven degrees in New York. It's going to be sundy 116 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,799 Speaker 1: today with hins and the upper fifties clouds roll in tonight. 117 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: We'll get down to the upper forties. Time now to 118 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: take a look at some of the other stories making 119 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: news in New York and around the world, with Bloomberg's 120 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: Michael bar Good morning, Michael, Good morning, Nathan. Chinese leader 121 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: Shijingping is left Moscow, wrapping up a three day visit, 122 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: shortly after Japanese Prime Minister Fumio Kashino left Kiev. Meanwhile, 123 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: the USS statements coming from China and Russia about a 124 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: proposed peace plan for Ukraine our off target, Bloomberg said 125 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: Baxter as the story the White House has neither Kiev 126 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: nor Washington can even consider it. National Security Council spokesman 127 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: John Kirby says there is no mention of backing off 128 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: occupied land. He and his regime keeps pairting the Russian 129 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: propaganda that this is somehow the more of the West 130 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: on Russia, that it's some sort of existential threats in 131 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,679 Speaker 1: Mister Putin that's just a bunch of molarchy. Mukraine posed 132 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: no threat to anybody, let alone Russia. Kirby says Putin's 133 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: aim at having she in Moscow is to get a 134 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: promise of more lethal aid, which to this date, he says, 135 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: they've not seen any evidence of his doing. In San Francisco, 136 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: I'm at Baxter Bloomberg Daybreak. A cold murder case on 137 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: Staton Island is getting new interest. Investigators say they have 138 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: identified the body of a woman who was found brutally 139 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: beaten and lit on fire on Staton Island in nineteen 140 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: ninety one. The woman, who was only known by a 141 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: scorpion tattoo on her right buttocks, has been identified as 142 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: Christine Belusco of Clifton. They also said Belusco had a daughter, 143 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: now believed to be in her early thirties, who investigators 144 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: are trying to locate. Beluso's killer is still on the loose. 145 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: Marine animal welfare officials say eight dolphins have died after 146 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: they became stranded on a beach in New Jersey. Marine 147 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: Mammal Stranding Centers said on Facebook that the pod had 148 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: become stranded on Sea Isle. City staff and a veterinarians 149 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: say two of the dolphins had already died and the 150 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: condition of the others was rapidly deteriorating. The MMSC says 151 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: the decision was made to euthanize the other six. A 152 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: cow caused quite the commotion in Brooklyn. A young black 153 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: calf somehow escape from a truck outside of slaughterhouse and 154 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: made a break for it, running through the streets of 155 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: Canarcy until the crew rounded her up and put her 156 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: back in the vehicle. This man watched the whole thing 157 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 1: play out. The people from the slaughterhouse had actually come 158 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: with their equipment and stuff, and they were trying to 159 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: you know, blast of it and get it into the truck. 160 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: But she was feisty. She didn't want to go. No 161 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: word on whether the slaughterhouse would now consider sparing him. 162 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: Global News twenty four hours a day by more than 163 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: twenty seven hundred journalists, analyist and over one hundred twenty countries. 164 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 1: Michael Bard, this is Bloomberg, Nathan. I'm not going to 165 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: tell you where I'd placed my bets. Thank you, Michael. 166 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: Time half of the Bloomberg sports that they brought to 167 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: you by Trice stayed out. He Good morning, John stash Our, 168 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 1: Good morning Nathan on Hollywood like script to finish the 169 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: World Baseball Classic Japan with a one run lead of 170 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: the nineteenning and who do they call on to close 171 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: things out? But show a Otani? And who does he 172 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: face to get the final out? But his angel's teammate 173 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: Mike Trout generally considered the two best all around players 174 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: in the sport, and Otani struck Trout out. Japan won 175 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: the championship game three to two. Had Barkley's Nets lost 176 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: to Cleveland one fifteen one O nine, there was a 177 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: moment of silence for Willis Reid. He was once the 178 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: Nets coach, also once their general manager. But Reid, who 179 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: passed away at eighty, obviously known mostly as an all 180 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: time great Nick and for what he did May eighth, 181 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy. Limping onto the court for Game seven, they questions, 182 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 1: will Willis reed play to night? I think we've seen 183 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: woman coming up that trade on the harkcard white spot? 184 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: What elbout his person show? He only scored four points 185 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: that night, for it was felt the motion he brought 186 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: by fighting through his leg injury inspired the Knicks to victory. 187 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: Read with captain the Knicks to another title three years later, 188 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: still the only two championships in Knick's history. Rangers Devil's 189 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: Islanders all at home at the Garden. Rangers at a 190 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: third period lead but lost to Carolina three to two, 191 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 1: and Newark, Minnesota top the Devil's two one and over 192 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: time with the Ubs Arena all Islanders seven to two 193 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 1: over Toronto. Ionna moved quickly the day after Rick Petino 194 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,119 Speaker 1: left for Saint John's, The Gales replaced him with Toban Anderson, 195 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: who had just coached Fairley Dickens into that stunning upset 196 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: win in the NCAA. Turner John Stashatward Bloomberg Sports Live 197 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: from coast to coast, from New York to San Francisco, 198 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: Boston to Washington, d C. Nationwide on Sirius XAM, the 199 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business app, and Bloomberg dot Com. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 200 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hagar. Let's bring you an interview 201 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: now with the former CEO of Morgan Stanley and Credit Suite. 202 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: That's John Mack. He sat down for an interview with 203 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: David Weston on Bloomberg Wall Street Week. They discussed financial 204 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: stability and risk management. In light of the collapse of 205 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: credit Suis had several US regional banks. John Max says 206 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: it is imperative that people believe in the stability of banks. 207 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: He says executives and government officials are well aware of 208 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: the risks of a collapse in confidence. Let's bring you 209 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: part of our conversation now with John Mack. I think 210 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: the transition from being a Swiss private bank to a 211 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: publicly held bank, that the rules and reporting have changed. 212 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: I mean the Swiss banks. I remember years ago when 213 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: I was there, you could go down in their vaults. 214 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: He would see pieces of art locked up, things like that, 215 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: And I think they had a real advantage of bank secrecy. 216 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: They had a lot of people around the world who 217 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: want to be protected, and we put money in there 218 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: and knowing it would be secure, safe and secret do 219 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: and the world's changed, and that's what they're dealing with 220 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: because they need to change with it. What didn't they 221 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 1: get from your point of view, I mean, you've spent 222 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: a lifetime in banking, you know banking. What didn't they 223 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: understand you need to build financial service business built on 224 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: trust and built on not hiding money or putting money 225 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: in different spots, but you need to be opened. You 226 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 1: need to give a return on the investments or the 227 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: assets someone gives you, and just having bank secrecy is 228 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: not enough. And I don't think they got that. And 229 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: for years the Swiss was a haven for people all 230 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: over the world who wanted to put money away. They 231 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 1: did and you know, for those who are putting the 232 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: money in, it made a lot of sense. But long term, 233 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: I think it really helped hurt the Swiss banks in 234 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: a competitive way. What do you expect Calm Color and 235 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: Ubas to do with great species, Well, I think they'll 236 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 1: look number one or they're overlaps, and there'll be a 237 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: lot of overlaps. And you want to get the best 238 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: people from each institution and still have those lines of businesses, 239 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: but with a better ROLO decks of who are the 240 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: talent of people in THEO the two banks. So I 241 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: see it business as usual, but I think it will 242 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: be a smaller institution when they put them together, and 243 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: I think they will focus on performance, not just bank secrecy. 244 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: You've spent a lifetime managing risk, is it likely they'll 245 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: take a less risk? Already we've had calm callers said 246 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,719 Speaker 1: we want to cut back on the investment bank. We're 247 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,599 Speaker 1: not as interested an investment bank. Would you expect to 248 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: sort of the sort of profile the bank to shift, Yeah, 249 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: I do, But I think that's universal. I think the 250 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: big banks who've had big trading positions and taken a 251 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: lot of risks, I think they've all dialed that back, 252 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: and clearly a Swiss is going to do that now. 253 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: When I was there, it was first Boston was their 254 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 1: investment bank, and the amount of risk that we took 255 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 1: was really out of proportion what we should have been doing. 256 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: So I think all the banks are focused a lot 257 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 1: more on risk. I think their regulators are better at 258 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: defining and seeing the risk. But I think banks have 259 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: to maintain confidence in their institution, so I think most 260 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 1: of these banks are going to be much more conservative 261 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: in the risk they take. We have our own problems 262 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: with banks right now in the United States, starting with 263 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: Silicon Valley Bank going beyond that. At the same time, 264 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: is this similar to what you saw in twenty eight, 265 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: two and nine, again you were running Morgan Stanley. Do 266 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: we have a similar issue now, you know, David, I 267 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: don't think so. I think the banking issue at Silicon 268 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: Bank is pretty straightforward what they were doing, who they 269 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: were underwriting, who they were lending money to. We were 270 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: just taking market risk. We were not taking tremendous credit risk, 271 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: either with companies or with individuals. A lot of our 272 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: risker and government securities and just loading up the balance 273 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: sheet saying there's making a bet on interest rates, not 274 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: on credit. So I think the difference today is the 275 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: credit risk, not so much the interest rate risk. There 276 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: are a lot of institutions, banks, as well as the 277 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: corporations that maybe have based their whole theory on low 278 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: interest rates forever, which we're not going to have. So 279 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: how much risk is there in terms of interest rate 280 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: risk in the system do you think? I don't think 281 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: as much as we've seen in the past. I mean 282 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: I don't. I just don't see banks, and again I've 283 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: been retired for a while. I don't see them taking 284 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: all that kind of risk to try to get earnings up. 285 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: They're always that it's going to be a risk in 286 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: the marketplace. There's always interest rate at risk. But I 287 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: think all the banks are much more discipline and the 288 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: kind of risk they want. I also think the Federal 289 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: Reserve and regulators are much more astute at looking at 290 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: these balance sheets and the risk they're taking. The risk 291 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: should be in helping build businesses, not speculating in the market, 292 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: but in the risk of making these big loans and 293 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: taking a lot of exposure if the markets change in 294 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: these companies. I think that has really been dialed back. 295 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Today, your morning brief on the 296 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: stories making news from Wall Street to Washington and beyond. 297 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: Look for us on your podcast feed at six am 298 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: Eastern each morning, on Apple, Spotify, and anywhere else you 299 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: get your podcasts. 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