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Speaker 1: The clock ticked towards the president's threat that a quote

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Speaker 1: whole civilization will die tonight on Tuesday, Republican congressional leadership

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Speaker 1: remains silent those crickets as President Trump's war with Iran

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Speaker 1: continues without congressional approval. And here to discuss the co

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Speaker 1: founder of Save America Steve Schmidt and former R and

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Speaker 1: C chair and Our Republican Legacy National co chair Mark Roscoe. Steve,

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Speaker 1: this ceasefire is tenuous, and Democrats are understandably focusing on

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Speaker 1: the President's language this week threatening to end an entire civilization,

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Speaker 1: but most Republican lawmakers and leadership have been quiet about this.

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Speaker 1: How could their silence do you think impact the party

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Speaker 1: in November?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that it is part of a broad

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Speaker 2: mosaic of issues that the American people are evaluating and invaluating.

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Speaker 2: Have looked at Trump and wow is he unfit? Which

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Speaker 2: explains why his approval levels are down at thirty percent,

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Speaker 2: thirty two percent, thirty three percent, depending on what the

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Speaker 2: poll is. Every Republican understands that Maggot will be wiped

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Speaker 2: out in this midterm election ahead. The question is should

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Speaker 2: there be a check on Donald Trump and though the

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Speaker 2: Republican Congress has answered it with a resounding no, the

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Speaker 2: American people believe the answer to that question should be

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Speaker 2: a resounding yes. And one of the great evidence pieces

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Speaker 2: is going to be the war that Donald Trump started

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Speaker 2: with Iran and lost, turning, for example, the Strait of

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Speaker 2: Hormuz from an international waterway into an Iranian toll rode,

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Speaker 2: in the process, transferring billions of dollars of cash to

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Speaker 2: the Iranians to the Russians, strengthening the Chinese hand in

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Speaker 2: one of the foremost strategic disasters in the country's history,

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Speaker 2: which is to say a lot over the last twenty

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Speaker 2: five years, when we've had no shortage of strategic disasters.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing, though, Steve. If the president's approvals are

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Speaker 1: as low as you're describing, if the American voters are

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Speaker 1: turning on the president and not supportive of this war,

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Speaker 1: why aren't we seeing Republican lawmakers break with the president.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be in their best political intrigues?

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Speaker 2: The die is cast at some level. You're asking the

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Speaker 2: question of why didn't the cult members run out of

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Speaker 2: the tent at Jonestown, And maybe the person who has

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Speaker 2: the best answer for it was John Kennedy who said,

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Speaker 2: beware the foolish men who sought power by riding the

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Speaker 2: back of the tiger, only to wind up inside, and

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Speaker 2: their fate is sealed because inside the dynamics of party

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Speaker 2: politics in America, as these parties shrink, and the Republican

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Speaker 2: Party is shrinking, as it gets smaller, like a star collapsing,

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Speaker 2: it gets smaller, it gets hotter, more extreme, it gets denser.

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Speaker 2: And that's what's happening to Maga. They won't tolerate accommodation.

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Speaker 2: And so all of these people, Republicans, from state legislatures

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Speaker 2: to members of Congress, have lashed themselves to MAGA and

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Speaker 2: they can't untie the knot in time for November.

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Speaker 1: Mark, there's a new economist you gov pull out showing

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Speaker 1: two key groups that swung toward Republicans in twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four are now turning against Trump's war with Iran. And

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Speaker 1: you take a look at this. Young people ages eighteen

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Speaker 1: to twenty nine oppose the war fifty seven to twenty

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Speaker 1: two percent. Hispanic people it's fifty eight to twenty seven percent.

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Speaker 1: When you see those numbers, Mark, how nervous are you

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Speaker 1: as a former RNC Chairman.

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Speaker 3: Well, frankly, I'm not nervous about political results, to be

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Speaker 3: very honest with you, I'm more concerned about Congress doing

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Speaker 3: the right thing for the right reasons and vindicating the

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Speaker 3: interest of honor and virtue that are contained within the Constitution.

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Speaker 3: It's plain and clear that the only branch of government

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Speaker 3: that has the authority to enter into any kind of

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Speaker 3: armed conflict is the United States Congress. But there's not

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Speaker 3: been an ounce of courage or insight that has been demonstrated,

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Speaker 3: at least without a congressional delegation all Republicans for a

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Speaker 3: long long time. This is in keeping with a pattern.

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Speaker 3: So whether or not Republicans, as a matter of fact,

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Speaker 3: I've I hope they lose the majorities in Congress because

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Speaker 3: there will now be there will then be some friction

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Speaker 3: holding them accountable one house or the other.

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Speaker 1: Going to a.

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Speaker 3: Different political party will provide the friction that was installed

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Speaker 3: inside the Constitution to begin with. It was meant to

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Speaker 3: be a marketplace of ideas, where you advanced thoughts into

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Speaker 3: that marketplace, you debated them with great enthusiasm, and you

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Speaker 3: tried to distill them into sound public policy, keeping an

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Speaker 3: eye on the ultimate goal being to address the public good.

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Speaker 3: And I think of these younger generations, generations Z is

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Speaker 3: clearly inclined to study the issues, and now that they're

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Speaker 3: into full adulthood and full citizenry, they're becoming very good

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Speaker 3: students about what's going on. So I think it's reflecting

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Speaker 3: what they think is not necessarily a political decision. As

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Speaker 3: a threshold matter. I think that plays some part. But

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Speaker 3: at the end of the day, you know, even a

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Speaker 3: number of them are liable for being drafted in to

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Speaker 3: think they're realizing they have so much to lose and

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Speaker 3: they just don't approve of the mess that Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: and the Republican Congress, sitting on their thumbs and remaining silent,

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Speaker 3: have failed to do on behalf of the country. Everything

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Speaker 3: is about holding onto your office. Everything is about doing

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Speaker 3: what Donald Trump wants to be done. And take a

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Speaker 3: look at the results, you know, from the terrorists for

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Speaker 3: the big beautiful build they medicaid issues, the snap issues,

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Speaker 3: the issues associated with extorting universities and law firms. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it just goes on and on and on, and frankly,

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Speaker 3: I think that he has finally achieved something he didn't

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Speaker 3: want to do. I would suspect, but he's scaring literally

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Speaker 3: all the people across the entire spectrum of political interest

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Speaker 3: with what it is that he's undertakings out of control.

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Speaker 3: He's spiraling out of control, and he's getting worse with

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Speaker 3: each passing day. I don't find uncompetent enterprise that he

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Speaker 3: has originated that has come to pass, that acts on

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Speaker 3: behalf of the American people, and I think that's what

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Speaker 3: they're perceiving.

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Speaker 1: Mark Roscoe and Steve Schmidt, guys, you're both so passionate,

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Speaker 1: and I appreciate that conversation to be continued another day.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.