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Speaker 1: a lot of good things to talk about, specifically the

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Speaker 1: foty to fourteen win, yes say, Falcons over the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: A lot of good things happened, yes say. A lot

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Speaker 1: the thing that immediately shot out at me as being

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Speaker 1: but it was a there were smiles on faces. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot of work that's put in. These guys put

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Speaker 1: in each and every week to get prepared to play

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Speaker 1: a game. When you come in and get that first

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Speaker 1: they've been a long stretch man. We would would have

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Speaker 1: I gotta all the way back to what November five

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Speaker 1: some bad stuff, which happens in every game, but this

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Speaker 1: They're not thinking about draft order or any of that

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Speaker 1: play well. So in that respect, it was a good,

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Speaker 1: you just point out, no one feels good about five

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Speaker 1: most encouraging thing for me was again for that second

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Speaker 1: and then the defense played lights out. You know, someone

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Speaker 1: asked me to say, hey, how come this defense can't

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Speaker 1: You scored defensively, all the things you were looking for

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Speaker 1: it was it was a fun play to watch, and

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Speaker 1: I think it fired him up a little bit. He

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Speaker 1: fired me up. It's amazing. If you go back and

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Speaker 1: look at Matt Ryan in high school played at pin

432
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Speaker 1: Charter High School in the Philly area, they ran the

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Speaker 1: veer and they ran the option. Yeah, and you can

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Speaker 1: go back and find old muddy days of him riding

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Speaker 1: the fullback in pulling it out and run it down

436
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Speaker 1: the line and running the option up the field. So

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Speaker 1: Matt's got that sneaky athleticism that that kind of creeps

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Speaker 1: out every now that we saw it in the touchdown

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Speaker 1: run against Green Bay in the playoffs where he spiked it,

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Speaker 1: ran in from about fifteen yards out and spiked it,

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Speaker 1: and this was similar to that. But I love the

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Speaker 1: little pump fake cam. Gonna hold your hold, gent, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna take off. Leasy didn't slide and dislodge his knee braces.

444
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Speaker 1: I do how many times he's slid and that knee

445
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Speaker 1: brakes is on to protect his plantny that front knee,

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Speaker 1: so somebody goes into the knee. But every time he slides,

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Speaker 1: it dislodges, and now you got the problem to get

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Speaker 1: that thing back in place. At least he's learned how

449
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Speaker 1: to slide. Yeah, every every time that happens, I kind

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Speaker 1: of cringe with, you know, because that thing that could

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Speaker 1: puercula turcula bit give you give you a knee? Is

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Speaker 1: that a word too, tuerk? Yeah, it is a word,

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Speaker 1: but I think it's that. But we can that's next

454
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Speaker 1: episode we'll talk about twerking. But h I love that,

455
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Speaker 1: you know, what you know, Since since we're on the

456
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Speaker 1: topic of Matt Ryan, I gotta throw one more in there.

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Speaker 1: How about the QB sneaks yesterday? I mean, some of

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Speaker 1: the fans. I know he's done it a lot in

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Speaker 1: the past, but the fans noticed that. There's been so

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Speaker 1: many times where the fans like, why can't we just

461
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Speaker 1: run mad up the middle more? Why can't he just

462
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Speaker 1: take it on those short yards. But it was good

463
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Speaker 1: to see and they were successful. He scored, but well

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Speaker 1: you got this look on your face, Well you almost

465
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Speaker 1: got the feeling. Is that the sark through his hands

466
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Speaker 1: in the air and said, you know what, I'm not

467
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Speaker 1: turning handed at anybody anymore. We're just gonna try to

468
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Speaker 1: push in. And you know what, Edo or Taban who

469
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Speaker 1: was in there, You get in and you behind you

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Speaker 1: push him for the first down. That's what happened a

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Speaker 1: couple of times. And you know, hey, give them credit

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Speaker 1: for kind of beating your head against the wall enough

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Speaker 1: times when you turn a hand at somebody, somebody that's

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Speaker 1: blown up the backfield. Let's just let Matt go get it.

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Speaker 1: Needed a good job with it. You know. I listened

476
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Speaker 1: to serious radio and I worked with Pat Herbin for

477
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Speaker 1: a little while at CBS, and he had a great

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Speaker 1: point and it was right after he was talking to DQ.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't about the falcons, but he said, when you're

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Speaker 1: down on the goal line, offenses need to stop trying

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Speaker 1: to outsmart the defenses. They're already tense. There are already

482
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Speaker 1: it's a short yard. They're already like worried about what

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Speaker 1: you're gonna do. Stop trying to fool people. Try and

484
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Speaker 1: just give it to your best player and just push

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Speaker 1: it in. Yeah, but you know why you try to

486
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Speaker 1: you know, but you know why you try to fool

487
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Speaker 1: people because you can't come off the ball and push

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Speaker 1: anybody off the ball. Yeah, well it was good to

489
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Speaker 1: see regardless. Yeah, it was absolutely you get your pad

490
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Speaker 1: level down. See if I'm an offensive lineman and I'm okay,

491
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Speaker 1: we got to step around. We're gonna run a g

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Speaker 1: play and I gotta get my pad level here, But

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Speaker 1: then I gotta stepor forget that, get your pad level down.

494
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Speaker 1: The defense has their path. They're already down below you.

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Speaker 1: So you got to try to absorb those guys and

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Speaker 1: then just get some kind of push. But that's a

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Speaker 1: that's a story for another day. It'll be something we'll

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Speaker 1: have to improve on in the off season. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: about that after tworking. But yeah, different producers don't want

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Speaker 1: us to talk anything about tworking. Well, you're the one

501
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Speaker 1: that keeps bringing it back. I know. I'm just having fun.

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's kind of waken me up here. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: so let's shift gears here. Uh. One of the one

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Speaker 1: of the popular things that I'm hearing this morning and

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Speaker 1: after the after the game, even though they won, even

506
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Speaker 1: though they put it all together, they looked fantastic. They

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Speaker 1: exploited the team that we're in the areas they needed to,

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Speaker 1: They did everything that they should have and thence on yes,

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Speaker 1: every and they were officially but actually point out they

510
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Speaker 1: were officially eliminated from the playoff race. Yay, along with

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Speaker 1: Icago's win. Right, Chicago's win put them out. Minnesota definitely did.

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Speaker 1: Minnesota couldn't win again for them in whatever scenarios you

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Speaker 1: want to look So you don't have a scenario for

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Speaker 1: us this week where we can make the PLA. No.

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Speaker 1: I went through every scenario. I tweeted it out, and

516
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Speaker 1: but Minnesota could not win another time. Yeah, So that

517
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Speaker 1: all said a handful of teams were eliminated, include the

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Speaker 1: Falcons yesterday. So everyone, obviously when I say everyone, I

519
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Speaker 1: mean our fans are now looking at hey twenty nineteen. Hey,

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Speaker 1: the draft. We went from a four to a five,

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Speaker 1: and I think we're currently after the four PM games.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure what happened after a last night's Sunday

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Speaker 1: night game with the Eagles in Rams, but we are

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Speaker 1: currently in the sixth position when it comes to the

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Speaker 1: draft order. I'm not going to talk draft here, but

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Speaker 1: you sound like you're gonna talk draft. I want to

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Speaker 1: talk about these this next game Carolina and the following

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Speaker 1: game Tampa as it pertains to this team springboarding into

529
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Speaker 1: the offseason, finishing strong. But everyone's going to be thinking

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Speaker 1: about twenty nineteen. We're going to So my question to

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Speaker 1: you is, because I have some thoughts on this, do

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Speaker 1: you like do we treat this a lot like we

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Speaker 1: did in the preseason. We know what Matt Ryan and

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Speaker 1: Julio Jones can do. I know, I think I know

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Speaker 1: what you're going to say, and I know what I'm

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Speaker 1: going to say, But for the fans, your own questions here?

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Speaker 1: Do you play other guys more? Some of these young guys,

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Speaker 1: do you continue the evaluation process much like you do?

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Speaker 1: The preseason is all about evaluation, it's not about wins.

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Speaker 1: Do you treat that like this or is it because

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Speaker 1: it's a regular season. It's just too darn important and

542
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Speaker 1: every game matters and this is game tape against starters

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Speaker 1: and teams that want to win. Is there any do

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Speaker 1: coaches kind of go through that where they're saying, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I want to see more of this guy. I don't

546
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Speaker 1: want this guy to get hurt. I don't think I

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Speaker 1: don't even want to entertain the whole. They're not thinking

548
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Speaker 1: about the draft that's going to shake itself out. But

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Speaker 1: as far as playing guys, what do you think, what

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Speaker 1: approach do you think they'll take? Because I get asked

551
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Speaker 1: this a lot, and obviously whatever happens is going to

552
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Speaker 1: affect the draft order, right, So I know, I know

553
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Speaker 1: there's a lot to unpack there. Well, and then we'll

554
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Speaker 1: get into Carolina. But gist of it is is do

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Speaker 1: you play more players? Do you attack these games to

556
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Speaker 1: try to go win them? Yes? And yes, okay, and

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Speaker 1: I think you're already seeing that. Find me some players

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Speaker 1: they are not playing Isaiah Oliver's playing more on the

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Speaker 1: defensive side the football think you're seeing. Obviously, a Loucon

560
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Speaker 1: has been a big part of the mix. Duke Riley

561
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Speaker 1: has been somewhat eliminated from the mix, and that might

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Speaker 1: give you an indication of where he stands in the

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Speaker 1: pecking order of what potentially this team would look like

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Speaker 1: next year. I know some fans or cheering, cheering because

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Speaker 1: of what the way they've felt about why Duke's played.

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Speaker 1: I think Duke's still a guy, is still a work

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Speaker 1: in progress, so to speak. He's a tremendous athlete that

568
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Speaker 1: just hadn't gotten up to speed yet defensively, so he's

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Speaker 1: handsome up and down moments for sure. Yeah, but he's

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Speaker 1: also had some moments where you say, there's that speed,

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Speaker 1: there's that instinct. But it can't it can't be one

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Speaker 1: of these deals where you're you're you're gonna be going

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Speaker 1: into year three next year for him, and so it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a huge offseason for him that he's gonna

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Speaker 1: have to go to another level. I can't be Oh,

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Speaker 1: I see that, I see the flash of what you

577
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Speaker 1: can do, but oh, you screwed that up. That that

578
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Speaker 1: can't happen, because that's what's going to get you beat.

579
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Speaker 1: That's what allows you to lose five games in a row.

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Speaker 1: So they got to try to eliminate some of that stuff.

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Speaker 1: But getting back to your original question, you're going to

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Speaker 1: win these You're going to try to win these two games.

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Speaker 1: At the guys that are coordinating the offense, the guys

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Speaker 1: that are coordinating the defense are going to put a

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Speaker 1: plan together to go win. But during that same time,

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Speaker 1: and you've already seen it. We saw Russell gage An

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Speaker 1: play a ton at wide receiver this weekend. He did

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Speaker 1: a nice job there. Again, you're trying to sort out

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Speaker 1: is that going to be the group of receivers? You know,

590
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Speaker 1: is you know what's going to happen with that group?

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Speaker 1: The running back scenario, So all those guys are getting

592
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Speaker 1: to play the only group that you're going to be

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Speaker 1: careful with, maybe subbing in and out to see if

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Speaker 1: they can play as the offensive line. And we're already

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Speaker 1: kind of seeing that because of injury, right, so everybody

596
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Speaker 1: else is being rotated in I think of the of

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Speaker 1: the forty seven or forty six guys that are active

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Speaker 1: on a Sunday, everybody plays positional football except maybe justin

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Speaker 1: Bethel doesn't play dB. You rarely see him in a dB,

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Speaker 1: but he is a premier special teams guy who could

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Speaker 1: go to the Pro Bowl. Yeah, the guy that's got

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Speaker 1: a chance to be a Pro Bowl play. That's why

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Speaker 1: he was signed, absolutely, and that's why he's a the game.

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Speaker 1: I think he's like second or third or somewhere in

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Speaker 1: the neighborhood of being untackles and special teams So kind

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Speaker 1: of an unsung guy that's had a really good year

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Speaker 1: for you and Justin Bethel. And the reason is Matt

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Speaker 1: just mentioned the reason you went and got him. And

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Speaker 1: you've seen Russell Gage, another gay you drafted at the

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Speaker 1: back end of the draft, was supposed to becoming as

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Speaker 1: a special teams player. Yes, he's affected the game the

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Speaker 1: way you wanted to from a special team stuff. Now

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Speaker 1: you're trying to find out can he play offense where

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Speaker 1: it can he be a viable option as a fourth

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Speaker 1: or fifth receiver. So I think the answer to both

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Speaker 1: your questions are, yes, you're going to try to go win,

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Speaker 1: but you're also going to try to play as many

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Speaker 1: guys as you can so you don't you don't want

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Speaker 1: to sacrifice winning the game, at least from a player

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Speaker 1: coach perspective to play in players. And I know that's

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Speaker 1: hard for the fan to understand, but it's it's just

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Speaker 1: the professional part about it, where you're supposed to go

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Speaker 1: out and lay it on the line and go play. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's too much on the line, and there's too much

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Speaker 1: on the line for these coaches. There's too much on

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Speaker 1: the line for these players. They have you know, some

627
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Speaker 1: of them havingcentives, but they all want to put their

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Speaker 1: best version of themselves on tape. Uh, there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a lot of decisions made in the offseason. There's there's

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Speaker 1: nineteen unrestricted free agents, UM, and a couple of restricted

631
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Speaker 1: guys UM. But those guys want to have slid finishes

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Speaker 1: to the year too. And these coaches, you know, they're

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Speaker 1: coaching for their job. They well they'll tell you they're

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Speaker 1: coaching for their job every week. And well, I want

635
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Speaker 1: to say this, so can we hope Sam will back

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Speaker 1: me up on this. But Sam's our producer, by the

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Speaker 1: Sam does a great job with We've got an amazing

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Speaker 1: cast of characters they put up with us, UM and

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Speaker 1: well we're gonna we're gonna give them their their just due.

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Speaker 1: On our last podcast of the regular season. But my

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Speaker 1: point is, are we is we got presents for him? Remember, Okay, Yeah,

642
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Speaker 1: My point is that we're gonna do this. We're gonna

643
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: do this again a couple more times, Matt and I

644
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: and hopefully we'll get shock in here. We're gonna do

645
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: this post postseason as well. Okay, this is not just

646
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: an end seasoned deal. And I'm I'm I'm speaking completely

647
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: on my own here. I don't even know this, but

648
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: we're gonna try to make this happen for you guys.

649
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: So we talk about draft, we talk about free agency

650
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: coming up. I think it's important for the fan to

651
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: stay in tune with what's going on with the Falcons

652
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: because we're going to discuss that. We're gonna talk about Grady, Jared,

653
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about those guys in the off season.

654
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: We're just still in season. So it's kind of hard

655
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: to concentrate on, Okay, what do we need to do

656
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: for next year? We're gonna have those shows and so

657
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: say stay tuned to us. We're going to do that. Yeah,

658
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: And so I know a lot of fans are excited

659
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: in thinking about you know, draft or and that kind

660
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: of stuff because the games we're not in it anymore,

661
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: and and the fans want to be in it. They

662
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: want to be in the playoffs. And don't you want

663
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: to smack Cam Newton in the face? Stuff? Okay, we

664
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: got to get a chance this week, we getta we

665
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: want to. We want to take out Cam. I don't

666
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: not say it, take him out, but you want to.

667
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: You know, this is a guy that likes to talk

668
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: a lot of smack. He does know he's he's a

669
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: good player, dab and he's a good, good player. He's

670
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: very good. Fire Casey's gonna be hunting him, um like

671
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: he did in the first game. And yeah, my point

672
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: is I think you'd like to you don't we you? Yeah,

673
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: you don't want to lose the division rivals. I don't

674
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: care what it does for you for your draft. You

675
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: don't want to lose the people in your division. And

676
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: Carolina is one of those teams. And I'd probably put

677
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: the Saints just above Carolina, but Carolina is right there. Correct,

678
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: But you want to, you want to, you want to

679
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: knock him around? Well, correct me if I'm wrong. But

680
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: they're still alive in the playoff race on they might be.

681
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, all I want to do is go

682
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: up there and beat him. I mean, wouldn't that be

683
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: sweet to knock him out? Oh yeah, that's that's nice.

684
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: Little rub a little mud on it. Yeah, yeah. I

685
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: know we're supposed to be objective, but we're not. We're

686
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: supposed to be objective. We're supposed to be Wow. I

687
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: wasn't told that at the beginning of the season. Um,

688
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: but you know, at the end of the day, we're

689
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: wearing red and black. Yeah. And I mean they're they're

690
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: they're a solid team. Obviously we know about Carolina. I

691
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: assume you want to do on shiftcars. I absolutely do. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey is having a phenomenal seasons. He's gonna have

693
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Speaker 1: a chance, you know, obviously the Monday night game, he's

694
00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: got a chance to go over a thousand yards rushing.

695
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: He has a chance to be a thousand yard rusher

696
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: and a thousand yard receiver with three games to go.

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Speaker 1: If you hung out and up in our office a

698
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: little bit more, you would know that he is. Christian

699
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Speaker 1: McCaffrey is one of my favorite players to watch. I

700
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: thought he got little pictures hanging on your wall. No,

701
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: not that, not to that extent. No, man crushes or everything.

702
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: But I love watching the guy guys and I thought

703
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: he should have won the Heisman coming out of Stanford.

704
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: I was that high on him. I think he he

705
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Speaker 1: you know, he doesn't do one or two things better

706
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Speaker 1: than anybody in the league, but he can do a

707
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: lot of things really well. He's got a lot of

708
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Speaker 1: clubs in the bag. Uh, and he is one of

709
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: the better see the analogy. Yeah and yeah, well it's

710
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: almost time. Yeah. Uh, do you golf by the way?

711
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: I do. Okay, we'll have to. We'll go bang a

712
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: little bit like some stoggiest too. We gets a couple

713
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: of stogies. I want to worry about making burders um.

714
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: But he has a lot of clubs in the bags,

715
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Speaker 1: and he can do a lot of things really well.

716
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Speaker 1: He can. He's one of the better receiving running backs

717
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: in the league, might be the best right now. And

718
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: you know he's not the guy that you're going to

719
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: pound up the middle with play after play, but they've

720
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: done that. But they can do that with him, So

721
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: he's dangerous. DJ Moore he has gotten daughter. Over the

722
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Speaker 1: course of the season. He was probably outside of Calvin Ridley.

723
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Speaker 1: There was two receivers I thought that were worthy of

724
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Speaker 1: first round picks coming out. He was the other one.

725
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: He ended up being a first rounder. He's turned into

726
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Speaker 1: a very good receiver. He was he was good coming

727
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: out of Maryland that he was little used. But he

728
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: is developing, you know. Steve Smith said, he is the

729
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: closest thing to me that I have seen, and that's

730
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 1: pretty heavy stuff too. So they've got three three guys

731
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 1: on offense you gotta play pay attention to. Their line

732
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: has been decimated this year. They're another one of those

733
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: teams like Green Bay Carolina, like US, two guards have.

734
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Speaker 1: It's tough to overcome injuries at the Saint like multiple

735
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: injuries at the same position. Yeah, you know, I was

736
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: talking to Rich McKay. He said, if that happens, it's

737
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: not a sentence of doom, but it's pretty close. It's

738
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Speaker 1: tough to overcome. But they're still alive. Yeah, they're They're

739
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: still alive, and I think that they went they've been

740
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: mired in a long lease of five games in a row.

741
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: Theyre going to the Monday night game, so they got

742
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: the Saints on Monday night and so they're trying to

743
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Speaker 1: get off the Schneide as well, and so it's a

744
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: situation where those two teams know each other extremely well,

745
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 1: but it's a team we know extremely well going into

746
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: next weekend, you know what they want to do with

747
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 1: his zone read stuff. It's caused some problems in the

748
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 1: past with Cam running with the football. It seems like

749
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Speaker 1: if you look and you boil down Cam's numbers as

750
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Speaker 1: far as how many times he's run it and thrown

751
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: it in games, it seems like that ramps up a

752
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: little bit against Atlanta. He's an Atlanta kid. He grew

753
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: up in Atlanta, was as outstanding high school player. We

754
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: know about his history in college, win the Heisman Trophy

755
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: down at Auburn. But he's a guy that loves to

756
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: play against Atlanta and he kind of ramps up his

757
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 1: game against us. So I have to be ready for

758
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: the big quarterback to make some plays. But defensively is

759
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: kind of where their bread is buttered. In my opinion,

760
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: is Luke Keekley I think is the best linebacker in

761
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 1: the game. You get Thomas Davis, who did not play

762
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: in the first game against Atlanta earlier in the year.

763
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: He's back playing the Jackson the corner has turned into

764
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: a really good player. He leads him in their interceptions.

765
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: Adam's a nice safety in the middle that's got three

766
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: or four interceptions, and Mario Addison is round into their

767
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: guy coming off the Ed's got eight sacks, so they

768
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: and we know about Julie's Peppers, the venerable one. He's

769
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 1: going to come off one side as well. So this

770
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: is a formidable defense, and it's a defense Atlanta got

771
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 1: after in the first game. Ran the ball with a

772
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: lot of success. You can bet when they throw that

773
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: tape on, albeit it was all the way back in September,

774
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: that's not going to sit well with Carolina. And they

775
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: got pushed around physically, so it'd be a little bit

776
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: more extra in the tank. Playoffs on the line for them.

777
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: Divisional game. Oh, by the way, we lost to Atlanta,

778
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: and they push us around physically, they'll be ready to go.

779
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: That was one of the few games we've ran the

780
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: ball well uh this year too against them. Another guy

781
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: they have on their defensive line that we're very familiar

782
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: with is don Terry poe yep who some fans miss.

783
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: He had a decent year for us last year, but

784
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,479
Speaker 1: he he got he got paid. Yeah, and we chose

785
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: not to go that way with well, and that's why

786
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 1: you're fearful for another guy that's a that's a Falcon

787
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: that potentially that that could happen to. And again we'll

788
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: talk about that down the road. But yeah, Don Terry

789
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: is a solid, formiddable guy on the inside that prevents

790
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 1: the run game or helps try to prevent the run game,

791
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: and those kind of guys. And again this will be

792
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: a guy as we get down the road and begin

793
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 1: to talk about Atlanta on what they might do. Is

794
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 1: he's a kind of guy that frees up Thomas Davis

795
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: and Shack Thompson and those guys. Uh luke Keikley to

796
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: run and get to the ball. When you've got a

797
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: guy that it's a space eater that eats up two blockers,

798
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 1: He's one of those kind of guys. Yeah, so I

799
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: think we both agree that Falcons are not going to

800
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: be sitting players in this one. They're going to go

801
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 1: for the win. Uh. You know, somebody to me about

802
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: Julio Jones. Look at the only reason I think he

803
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: may not play is if if you know, he left

804
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: the game with a rib injury, but he came back

805
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: in Uh he landed funny I think on that on

806
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: that catch. By the way, I don't know if you

807
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: saw the scene of Julio maybe some were watching on

808
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: television saw there was a there was a conversation with

809
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: with who on the sidelines, with both the medical staff

810
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: and the coaches, and they were talking about keeping him

811
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: out of the game, and he looked and they you

812
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: could see his mouth say I want to play. And

813
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: when you're six three two twenty five and you run

814
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: four four and you say you want to play, as

815
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: long as there's a ribs not poking out of your skin,

816
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna go play. Well, that says it all right there.

817
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: If the best player on the team, you could argue

818
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan and Julio Jones or one A one B

819
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: or one A one bb Uh does that even make sense?

820
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: But yeah, what I'm trying to say is that there

821
00:38:53,800 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: Star Wars. I don't know, but he's okay, I'm a

822
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: Star Wars, but I never I never heard of bb. Hey,

823
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: you'll get you'll get film stuff here too. I've heard

824
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: we're evaluating some of the best films of the twenty

825
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: nineteen years. You know Boba Fett though, right, Oh yeah, okay,

826
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: So my point is this If the best player on

827
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: the team says I want to play, don't take me out.

828
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: If I am a first year, second year guy on

829
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: that team, and I hear that, see that, I have

830
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: my chin strap buckled and I am giving it my all.

831
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 1: And it's also sending message those coaches, right, I mean,

832
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: so they're not gonna they're not gonna quit tank or anything. Well,

833
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: we've we've the praises of Julio Jones and what he

834
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: is and isn't with his team for many times. But

835
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: I thought DeVante Freman capitalized this for me last year

836
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: when I asked him. You know, DeVante had noticed in

837
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: Pride training camp when you get outside it's a you know,

838
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: three or four yard run. You go, You'll run eighty

839
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 1: yards of the ball. I said, why do you do that?

840
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: He says, well, it helps me conditioningwise. But who Ulio

841
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: Jones does that? Every time he catches the ball, every

842
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: time he catches a slant, he takes it all the

843
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: way to the house. And I don't want to let

844
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 1: him down because he's set the bar as to what

845
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: we're supposed to do for a preparation standpoint. That's who

846
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: Julio Jones is. I mean, that's as simple as I

847
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 1: can put it. That's who Julio Jones is. Yeah, and

848
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: it wears off on the other guys. It permeates through

849
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: the team, and especially when it's ninety five degrees out

850
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: in that training camps on when one of those guys

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Speaker 1: does it, if you look at the rookies, you look

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Speaker 1: at everybody else. If they don't run all the way,

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Speaker 1: people are looking him like, okay, you know, all right,

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Speaker 1: we see what you're made of or which you're not

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Speaker 1: made off, or whatever the case is. But I'm pretty

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty pumped for this weekend, you know. I think

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Speaker 1: it's a there's a lot on the line as far

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Speaker 1: as players and jobs and beating Caroline's. It's an NFC's

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Speaker 1: South arrival that's gonna do for us. It was fun. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I enjoyed being with you. As a professional. You get

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Speaker 1: another opportunity. That's all you could ask for as a player.

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Speaker 1: Falcon's Audible Podcast presented by A T and T. I

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Speaker 1: Am Matt Tebeek, Dave Archer, DJ, we miss you, hope

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Speaker 1: you come back soon. Uh, that's it. Peace