1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Well, well, well, chip chip chip, here we are. 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 2: Hey, hey, you know I almost accidentally hit leave meeting. 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 2: I was like, that would be the perfect way to 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 2: start this time. That would be savage. 5 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: So it's like we're here canceling shit, and you're like, 6 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: canceled five. 7 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 2: Out. 8 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: Well, the reason I started with such hesitancy to anyone 9 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: who's listening, we chip it up. First of all, have 10 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: done this podcast without pressing record about ten times now, 11 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: and I finally was like, we have got to stop 12 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 1: doing the podcast without doing the podcast. Like that's what 13 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: we say when sometimes we're prepping and we're analyzing and 14 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: we're brainstorming, and we start having these conversations. They're actually 15 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 1: really good, like debatable conversations a lot of times, and 16 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: I haven't pressed record, and then we come on the 17 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: podcast try to say the same thing and it never 18 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: works out the same. 19 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 2: Oh true, But with this one in particular, there's a 20 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: little bit of sensitivity, and we wanted to make sure 21 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: thatss a line. Yeah, so we were sort of getting 22 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 2: our ducks in a row. And we also don't necessarily 23 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 2: like we agree on it, but it's like all of 24 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: our points aren't exactly the same. So we wanted to 25 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: talk through it a little bit, but let's talk through 26 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 2: it with a list. We're not exhaustive. 27 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let them in on what we're talking about. 28 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: So this month, as you guys know obviously on the podcast, 29 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: we always pick a word of the month, and this 30 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 1: month's word is housekeeping. I was actually really excited about 31 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: this one. This to me really resonates as like how 32 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: I try to live my life as a human in general, 33 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: Like I kind of just am always wanting to do 34 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: this deep dive. I find life to be very fascinating. 35 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: I find the way people operate to be very fascinating, 36 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: and so this like really excites me, this word. But 37 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: you know, the second week of the month on the Edge, 38 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: we always tried to incorporate a pop culture theme, and 39 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: so Chip and I really went back and forth on 40 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: this one, like really went back and forth. We all 41 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: were really tired of, like we don't want to like 42 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: bash celebrity. We talked about that a couple months ago, 43 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: like we kind of wanted to shift the way that 44 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: we did the pop culture thing and just talk about 45 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: things that are relevant in pop culture but not necessarily 46 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: and fun and light and all the things and that's 47 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: been really difficult these last couple of years. I know 48 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: a lot of you guys have emailed me and they're like, oh, 49 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: the formats changed, it's too serious, And I'm like, well, 50 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: are you living in the same fucking world I am, 51 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 1: because it is falling apart. Our pets heads are falling off. 52 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: I say it all the time. It's just like life 53 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: is hard right now, and so it's really difficult some 54 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: weeks to find these positive, like happy light topics. And 55 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: as much as we want to bring that to you guys, 56 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: we're just humans living in this world too, And I'm like, damn, like, 57 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 1: can mercury mercury not be so fucking retrogrady? Like right, 58 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: this as hard out here. 59 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 60 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: So that was our debacle was just like how do 61 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: we keep this light and fun? How do we do 62 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,839 Speaker 1: house cleaning with the pop culture topic, because if we're 63 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: really talking about the things that are going on, it 64 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: can be kind of heavy. And we just kept going 65 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: going back to the topic of cancel culture. 66 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 2: And it's because that seems like, you know, a metaphorical 67 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: house cleaning, like if you're like, yes, oh, this person's bed, 68 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 2: get them out of the pop culture clean up yeah, 69 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: and I mean my personal stances, I could give a fuck. Like, 70 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 2: you know, celebrities to me are people that are just famous, 71 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 2: you know, like, yeah, it's I don't care about their marriages. 72 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 2: I don't care about that kind of stuff. Obviously, when 73 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 2: people do something that is horrific and illegal, yes, there 74 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: need to be ramifications for it. Them having a different 75 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: opinion about something than me. I could give two shits. 76 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: You've always had that mentality that that's yours. Is like, 77 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: let live and let live and that's the way you 78 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: live your life in general, which I actually think that's 79 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: something to aspire to and something I think I was 80 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: telling you before we started, like I am craving that 81 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: I wish everyone would just live and let live like 82 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: you do. You boo, Like, where did that go? 83 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: You are human? 84 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: Yes, we are human? Go ahead? Did that cut you off? 85 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 2: Well? No, I was just you know, my version of 86 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 2: house cleaning, you know, in this topic, was just like, hey, 87 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 2: how can I do a little bit of cleaning of 88 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 2: myself okay and my own house when it comes to 89 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 2: celebrities and pop culture. And it's like to remind myself that, 90 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 2: like in the grand scheme of things, getting caught up 91 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 2: in a lot of this bullshit, and the cancel culture 92 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 2: that surrounds celebrities is really a huge fucking waste of 93 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 2: everyone's time. 94 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: Right, You texted me and you're like, it's just so dumb, 95 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 1: and it's like this indication that we need to we 96 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: needed a term for online outrage, and which I thought 97 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: was so fascinating because the reason. 98 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 2: You're canceled, like what does that even mean? 99 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: It mean? Right? And the reason we say what does 100 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: it mean? Is because the more we researched who's been canceled, 101 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: a lot of them are back. You know, you're either 102 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: in jail or your back. That's what it felt like. 103 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,239 Speaker 1: It was just like one or the other. And again, 104 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: like we're not sitting here trying to condone bad behavior. 105 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: I think it's also a little tricky though, if I'm 106 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: being honest as people who work in the entertainment industry, 107 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, this shit ain't new. You think Harvey Weinstein 108 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: stuff was like that's He's not an exception. That is 109 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: like been rampant and obviously, like the Me Too movement 110 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: really did help change a lot of that stuff. I 111 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: really do think that, and I feel like some of 112 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: the things that we have fought for have gone very 113 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: extreme at this point, and so I'm just exhausted, and 114 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are feeling that it's 115 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: like really scary to even say anything. And that was 116 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: why I was like struggling with this podcast because I'm like, 117 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: how do we talk about. 118 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 2: How are we not going to get canceled and gotta 119 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 2: get canceled? 120 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: Like what, how do you say anything about anything these 121 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: days or have an opinion about anything and not just 122 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: get the shit beat out of you for having an opinion? 123 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 2: Well, you know what I think is the most toxic 124 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 2: part of the canceled culture tell us is when people 125 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 2: who when someone speaks up that literally never had an 126 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 2: opinion about that person or that thing before, Like I'm 127 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 2: just to have an opinion or just to be part 128 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 2: of the discourse, and like I'm going to give an example, 129 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 2: like the whole like Balenciaga outrage about them like I 130 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 2: don't even remember they like but like they had kids 131 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 2: teddy bears or something, yeah, that. 132 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: The kids were holding, So there was children involved. And 133 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: then there were these teddy bears that had like kind 134 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: of s and m type not ropes. What are this 135 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: bondage bondage and people were like why, which, okay, fair, 136 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: why that was just a bad artistic direction. It was stupid, 137 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 1: but like to get rid of all this is what 138 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: I'm saying. 139 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: It's also also did. 140 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: You really throw away your clothes out? That's what I 141 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: want to know the people who like they were thrown away? 142 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 2: I was like, where's there is a lot of money, 143 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 2: but I would I would venture to say a lot 144 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 2: of the people who had online outrage about it have 145 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 2: probably never purchased a single piece of Balenciaga because it 146 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 2: ain't fucking. 147 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: Cheap, no, you know, Okay, so it's not. 148 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 2: Your average person that's running around in Balenciaga. Right. 149 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: The point that I think that is so like perfect 150 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: here that you're making is just like like why are 151 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: we so black and white as a culture? Like and 152 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: we've talked about this a little bit, and we'll get 153 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: into this in a second with the Will Smith thing, 154 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: but we're so black and white that instead of saying, hey, 155 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: that campaign needs to come down, reshoot something, do something different, 156 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: like take a beat, get some new creative direction. That 157 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: one didn't work, that one didn't help. 158 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 2: Just don't buy Balancia. Do you know what I mean too. 159 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: This is what I'm saying is like you just didn't 160 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: like the ad. The ad can go down and then 161 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: all fucking move on. Why can't Balenciaga still exists? It's 162 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: it's a creative like fashion is creative. It is creative expression. 163 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: It's meant to push buttons. They just that was just 164 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: not one that hit right? Take it down? How many 165 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: audiens didn't like it? And move on? 166 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 2: Well? You know how many like memes that I get of, 167 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 2: like ads from the eighties that if they were on 168 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 2: television today, could you would? I mean scenes from movies 169 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 2: and by the way, all stuff that we thought was 170 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 2: funny back then or completely safe to say. But you know, 171 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 2: as a culture, we've gotten really sensitive. 172 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: Overly sensitive, really sensitive. 173 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 2: And overly like divided, so we want it's like it's 174 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 2: all about the gotcha moment. 175 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: Let me catch you doing this thing and prove that 176 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: you're a bad person. And the point that you miss 177 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: there is like are you doing everything perfect in your life? 178 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 2: Because I know it's like I am debinitely not, I mean, 179 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 2: which is probably why I don't post that much on Instagram, 180 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 2: Like yeah, you know, I like I have scars, you know, 181 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 2: I have bruises and bumps. I am not a perfect 182 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 2: human being. I own my mistakes, but you know, I 183 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 2: certainly don't want to be canceled for them. I think 184 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 2: part of the human experience is learning from the things 185 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 2: that we fail at and that we do poorly, and 186 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 2: that we just get wrong sometimes, you know, like I 187 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 2: have said things, you know, that I didn't mean in 188 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,599 Speaker 2: a bad way, like and had to be had to 189 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 2: like a friend address it with me so I could 190 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 2: explain it further. You know. It's like I think it's 191 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 2: we've lost in society in general. I think we've lost 192 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 2: like the ability to underd to like to include the intention. 193 00:09:55,960 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 2: You know. It's like, look, I'm sure there are plenty 194 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 2: of things that people say that are off color and 195 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 2: should not be said. But before we take things or 196 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 2: do things, it's not just it's said or done. I 197 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 2: think before we have knee jerk reactions to everything, we 198 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 2: should think about the intention behind what was said or 199 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 2: done and give someone a learning moment rather than just 200 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 2: being like I'm done with you, fuck you, You're canceled. 201 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 2: And it's but you know, we live in a we 202 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 2: live in a world now where people want fucking clicks 203 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 2: like they want they want someone to respond to them, 204 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 2: they want the celebrity to comment back to them, they 205 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 2: want all of those They want things to be driven 206 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 2: to their Twitter pages and their Instagram pages just so 207 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 2: that they can feel that validation. And that's so stupid 208 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 2: to me. 209 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: Well, we we did a whole podcast about the Will 210 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: Smith slap of Chris Rock. This was Godwin. Was that 211 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 1: a year ago? Two years ago? I don't even remember? 212 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 2: And probably was it the Oscars this year? 213 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: No, it was two oscars, go like not this Oscars 214 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: within the Oscars before. Okay, so too whatever that is, 215 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: you guys do the math. I'm not going to ask. Yeah, 216 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: but anyway, you know, I I was very much on 217 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: an island with my opinion about the whole thing, And 218 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: never ever, ever was I condoning that Will Smith should 219 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: have got up on a stage and slapped Chris Rock. 220 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 1: But what I do find in our culture, and this 221 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: is a big generalization, so take this with a grain 222 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 1: of salt to everyone, but like we are lacking in 223 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: so much empathy, and like you said, like we don't 224 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: look at the bigger picture, like of all the other 225 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: things that are probably going on, and especially with celebrity, 226 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: we hold them to these standards that are like you 227 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: better be a fucking robot or you're gone, because like 228 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: we don't know what Will Smith was working through at 229 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: that time, or what his childhood looked like, or why 230 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: he felt the need to defend his wife, Like, we 231 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: don't know those things. Would another person going through the 232 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: same situation and have felt differently maybe, but his life 233 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 1: experience in that moment I do believe had made him 234 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: have a reaction. And if you are a human who 235 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: can sit in front of me and tell me you 236 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 1: have never been prompted to a reaction and then gone, 237 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: well shit, I that wrong, correct, then props to you. 238 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: You should be in the Guinness Book of World Records, 239 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: like put you in a museum of some sort. You 240 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: need to be studied by a scientists, because that is 241 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: like a miracle. But we like didn't look at that. 242 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,599 Speaker 1: Everyone just looks at the behavior. Number one, he apologized. 243 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: Number two, it seems like he went on like a 244 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: year long journey of healing and looking deep into the 245 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: trauma that was behind it. So to me, I'm like, 246 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: does Will Smith need to never be in a movie again? 247 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: Absolutely not. He's a great actor. I look at that, 248 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, shit, at least he's owning is misay. 249 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: There are many people and many people that I know 250 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: in the public eye in like in life in general 251 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: or whatever that just will never apologize. So perhaps to 252 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: him to apologizing on such a big scale and owning 253 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 1: his mistake and going, well, shit, I have some stuff 254 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: to work on, Like what else can we ask of people? 255 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: That's what I want to know. 256 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 2: That's called a learning moment, you know, And it's like, God, 257 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 2: it happened on the world stage, and obviously it will 258 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 2: never happen, will never be have the opportunity to make 259 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 2: a mistake in front of that many people. I hope. 260 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 2: I was just saying, you know, I do think he 261 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 2: did the right thing. And it's like, you know, but 262 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 2: I was entertained by the like craziness of the whole 263 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 2: thing because it was a crazy moment in pop culture. Okay, 264 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 2: But I had nothing to do. It had nothing to 265 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 2: do with me, Like my opinion really didn't matter, and 266 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 2: I do think like it was important. But I do 267 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 2: think it was important for him to address it, and he, 268 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 2: like I think he validated himself. It doesn't take away 269 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 2: the fact that he did something wrong, but he manned up, 270 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 2: apologized and took action to better himself, right. And I 271 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 2: think that's what is missing from a lot of this, 272 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 2: like all the cancel culture stuff, like we you know, 273 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 2: we've obviously had some major things happen in Nashville this year, 274 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 2: and I think the approach that a lot of people 275 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 2: take is just to not address it and it goes away. 276 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 2: I don't know that that's necessarily the right thing. I 277 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 2: think it's like it's important to like acknowledge that you 278 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 2: upset people and say that you're going to do better. 279 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, what I think is what you talked about. And 280 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: I've talked about this a lot because of my experience 281 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: on reality TV, Like I was coached and told by 282 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: multiple people in publicity like don't acknowledge this, this isn't true. 283 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: If you weigh in, it becomes a bigger thing and 284 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: almost and I think that that was as far as 285 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: I probably wasn't gonna be able to escape the hate. 286 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: And I really needed that story or wanted that story 287 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: to go away because it affected like my personal life 288 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: and my huge client base that I've worked twenty years 289 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: to build. That it were totally separate of that like 290 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: I had other things. I had a family happening at 291 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: the time, like with children, Like there were many things 292 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: that factored into me being like this is not first 293 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: of all, not a representation of myself, and then also 294 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: not a war that I wanted to be in. It 295 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: was very painful. It was a real friendship and all 296 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: those things. But I will say not saying anything has 297 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: like almost been terrible. 298 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 2: Probably prolonged it, to be honest. 299 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: It definitely prolonged my healing. 300 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 2: I will say that, Yeah, that's what I mean. 301 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: My healing. And like the fact that I didn't say anything. 302 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: I think there are just people who just assumed certain 303 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: things about me and never will not And now it's 304 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: like so late in the game that it's just like 305 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: I don't think that they're the people that are probably 306 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: following me anymore to you know, to even like it 307 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: doesn't it's just different. 308 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 2: And like the trace is their opinion of you doesn't 309 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 2: really matter, you know. 310 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: It doesn't. I built an online business, so it does matter. Actually, 311 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: Like that's what people don't get is they're like, you 312 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: can't worry about what people think about you who don't 313 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: know you, and you can't. But that is also a 314 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: huge ask of someone like, you know, you hear the 315 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: Kardashian say stuff all the time about well you just 316 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: can't look at comments and you can't. But like, as 317 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: a human, that takes a lot. They have gone through 318 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: a lot of fucking hate to get to that point. 319 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: They've gone through a lot of practice to get to 320 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: that point, because as a human, no matter who you are, 321 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: no matter how successful you are, no matter how pretty 322 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: you are, no matter any of the things that we 323 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: deem as, like a person who could be untouchable, you're 324 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: just not, unless you're a fucking sociopath. Like, it still hurts. 325 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: It just does. It messes with your confidence, It messes 326 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: with your relationship with yourself. And I just think it's 327 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: interesting that we keep pointing the finger at these celebrities 328 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: that are fucking up, and I'm like, yo, you're on 329 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:17,479 Speaker 1: social media trolling someone you don't know, weighing in on 330 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: a situation that you know nothing about. People forget the 331 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 1: entertainment business is just that it's entertainment. Like there is 332 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: so much falset false what's the word? Like, damn it. 333 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: I hate when I'm on a rant and I forget, 334 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: I don't know how to say a word. But there's 335 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: just so many false narratives presented all the time and 336 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: the entertainment business, and it's like, if you guys knew 337 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: what was really going on, you'd be like, oh, like 338 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: it's just I don't know. I's think because we have 339 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: such an insider view of it, it changes everything because 340 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 1: you're just like this is insane, Like these people are 341 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: sitting at a keyboard yelling at someone, like I know 342 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: many people who should probably be yelled at that way 343 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: who aren't. And then you see the ones like say 344 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 1: one thing or like me, like I never had bad 345 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: intentions in my situation. My situation didn't even really happen, 346 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: but I was like used as a storyline, and so 347 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: I had people who never know would like would never 348 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: know me or didn't know me or whatever telling me 349 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: they wanted me to die. 350 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 2: Like what. 351 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 1: Crazy? 352 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I don't know. I just yeah, go ahead, Well, 353 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 2: I mean it's I'm going to try and like bring 354 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 2: it back a little bit more centered too, because in 355 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 2: doing research trying to find like ridiculous ways that yeah, 356 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 2: celebrities were canceled, I found some things that like you 357 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 2: know that Balenciaga thing that I brought up. I'm gonna 358 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 2: give another example, the whole like ticket Master debacle around 359 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 2: the Taylor Swift concerts. 360 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: Like what did Ticketmaster canceled ticket? 361 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 2: They try to cancel Ticketmaster and like I can't even 362 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 2: keep up the Tennessee It's Jarney General said that he 363 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 2: vowed to investigate Ticketmaster. But basically it was like, you know, 364 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 2: a bunch of irate Taylor Swift fans or parents of 365 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 2: Tailor Swift fans that weren't able to get tickets to 366 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 2: what was arguably the hottest tour of the century, and 367 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 2: you know, people waited in line for eight hours, and 368 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 2: it's like, do you mean to tell me that every 369 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 2: single person expected to be able to get a ticket 370 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 2: to something that has limited tickets? Apparently it just you 371 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 2: just didn't win that time. Go to another fucking city, 372 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 2: you know, or it just wasn't your opportunity to see it. 373 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 2: And it's like, how can Ticketmaster be held accountable for 374 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 2: the rooms that she is playing not having enough seats 375 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 2: to accommodate every single person that wants to go, Like 376 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,239 Speaker 2: that's just life. Sometimes it doesn't work out for you, 377 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 2: and it doesn't make Ticketmaster the enemy the Ticketmaster doesn't 378 00:19:59,920 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 2: know shitty things like with their the fees and all 379 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 2: of that, like be mad about that stuff, but like, 380 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 2: you know, sorry you didn't get a ticket, Like it 381 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 2: doesn't it doesn't mean that you should go on and 382 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 2: try and cancel a company, or that that our legislature 383 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 2: needs to get involved. Because Taylor Swift fans didn't get it. 384 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: To me, our legislator got involved. 385 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 2: I don't even the Tennessee Attorney General vowed to investigate ticket. 386 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: That's what we're fighting. What yeah, like what, oh my god? 387 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's like there's only so many tickets people, 388 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 2: And I get it. People are mad, and I guess back, 389 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 2: maybe this is me showing my age. But like back 390 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 2: when I was a kid, if I was upset about something, 391 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 2: I had to complain to my sister, my friends or 392 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 2: my mom. 393 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 1: You know, Like now it's like. 394 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 2: Now you go online and bitch and so it's like 395 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 2: this big public bitch fest. 396 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: It's exhausting to be exhausting, Like you were making some 397 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: points earlier about do you remember when I was just 398 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: like I see, I just don't even want to Like 399 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: I'm like so exhausted, I like don't even want to 400 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,959 Speaker 1: talk about this. Here we are on a podcast, here 401 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: we are in public, and I'm just like, oh, but 402 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: aren't we tired? Like can't we all just get along? 403 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: Like I totally resonate with Rodney King nowadays. Like I'm 404 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: just like, it's just like, why what are we doing? 405 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 2: Look? I think the biggest problem with it is there 406 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 2: are Look, there are plenty of real injustices that are happening, 407 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 2: you know, all over the world, politically, culturally, socially, there's 408 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 2: plenty of things. But because there's just how many use 409 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 2: a big word, a cacophony of people bitching about dumb shit. 410 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: I wish the listeners could raise their hand on if 411 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: they know what that means. 412 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,719 Speaker 2: It's just like a noise where lots of sounds come 413 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 2: together as a coffony of sound and anyway, it's like 414 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 2: there's just like it's literally like we're it's it's white noise. 415 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 2: We're complaining about everything, So that does anything really matter 416 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 2: at this point? Because I feel like we're all missing. 417 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 2: And that's not to say that there aren't people that 418 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 2: are shouting about the things that are important, because there 419 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 2: are people shouting about the things that are important. But 420 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 2: you know, it's like being upset at sea because of 421 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 2: someone that she cast in a movie without knowing what 422 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 2: went into the casting process is a waste of people's time. 423 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: Well, I think it's hard to say that there are 424 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: certain people arguing about the things that are important, because 425 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: who gets to say what's important and what's not, you know, Like, 426 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 1: and I think the Sea argument in general, I read 427 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: that one too. The weird thing is is like it's 428 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: happening so much that the articles we were reading about 429 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: who got canceled and all this stuff, I was like, 430 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: they got canceled or canceled? 431 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 2: What they got canceled? 432 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: I couldn't Yeah, the Sea thing, I hadn't even heard 433 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: about that. 434 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 2: Well, I also think that, like, again, we use the 435 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 2: word canceled to way too loosely. You know, it's just 436 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 2: a term. 437 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, well they got she got in trouble for some 438 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: casting stuff that she was trying to do a movie 439 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: about autism? 440 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 2: Is that? Yeah? About about a nonverbal girl with all 441 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 2: right which heel through music. 442 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: Sure, which is seemingly a great topic, I would think, 443 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: and trying to shine light on autism and healing and 444 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: all of those things. And because she didn't cast someone 445 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: who was actually autistic. She actually said she tried. 446 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, she actually said she originally did, but it wasn't 447 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 2: a good. 448 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: Well the girl was too overstimulated. Yeah, and the actor 449 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: actually backed out, it sounded like, but so yeah, she 450 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: got attacked for that, and she actually fought back, which 451 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: you were saying, like, I think it's great when you 452 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: fight back, but then there's people like the baby who 453 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 1: fight back and they really like hamper down, Like he 454 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: said some really cool things. He got called out and 455 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: then he just would not let it doubled. 456 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 2: There's a difference between double down, doubling down, and standing 457 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 2: up for yourself. And I'll read what Sea said. She 458 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 2: was like, she was like, I cast thirteen neuro atypical people, 459 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 2: three transfolk, and not as fucking prostitutes or drug addicts, 460 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 2: but as doctors, nurses, and singers. She wrote, fucking sad, 461 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 2: nobody's even seen the dang movie. My heart has always 462 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 2: been in the right place. And then she added, I 463 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 2: actually tried to work with a beautiful, young nonverbal girl 464 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 2: on the spectrum and found it and she found it 465 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 2: unpleasant and stressful, So that's why she cast Maddie. And 466 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 2: it's like the point I think that she was making 467 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 2: is like, you know, don't come at me, when she 468 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 2: was Actually the intention was really good. She was trying 469 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 2: to share a story and shine a light on the 470 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 2: plight of people that struggle in the world, but it 471 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 2: was overshadowed by people being up said about something that 472 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 2: they didn't even know what the reason was or Oh, 473 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 2: that's where. 474 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: It starts to feel like people just want to be upset, 475 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 1: And I think that that's what our whole point here is. 476 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: It's like, are we house cleaning the right things. 477 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 2: It's funny to me that this is the way that 478 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 2: people try to connect with other people, because that's really 479 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 2: what it is. There is an emptiness and it's a 480 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 2: tribe mentality. Yeah, and it's like, you know again, it's 481 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 2: also everyone's looking for clicks and validation online, which is 482 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 2: really sad and scary, but it's the world we. 483 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: Live in and it's all that we know how to do. 484 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 2: I think I think there's a tribe mentality to it. 485 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 2: And it's like, you know, politics has become so divisive 486 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 2: and so you know, it's you know, I read an 487 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 2: article the other day, less than a million people watch 488 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 2: the MTV Video Music Awards. Less than a million people 489 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 2: had some of the biggest stars in the world, but 490 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 2: twelve million people watched the GOP first debate. 491 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: That's where we are now so culturally. 492 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 2: Politics, some of those people are the biggest rock stars 493 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 2: in the world, you know, like that's what we're paying 494 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 2: attention to. But they've gotten so divisive that it's become 495 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 2: this US versus them mentality, which then feeds into the 496 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 2: sort of whole tribe mentality of Like, that's the side 497 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 2: of the line that I'm on, and what what we've 498 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 2: lost is understanding, the ability to have a conversation. 499 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,959 Speaker 1: The ability other people to have different opinions than us. 500 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the ability to forgive. And you know, forgiveness 501 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 2: isn't necessarily meant to be a gift to the person 502 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 2: that you're forgiving. Forgiveness is a gift to yourself because 503 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 2: it allows you to move on. Carrying around the negative 504 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 2: energy or hate or disagreement or all whatever the word 505 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 2: is is unhealthy. Like there are people that you know, 506 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 2: I've cut out of my life that I disagree with, 507 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 2: but I don't harbor any hate for them because it's 508 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 2: just I've forgiven and moved on. And I think that 509 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 2: is sort of that it plays into the that my 510 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 2: mentality of like sort of live and let live. Sometimes 511 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 2: it takes me a minute to process it and figure out, 512 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 2: you know, where that person's going to stand in my life. 513 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 2: But you know, I also firmly believe that some relationships 514 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 2: are only meant to be a small fraction of your life. 515 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 2: Not everyone can be there from day one to day totally. Yeah, 516 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, And it just like I think this 517 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 2: topic is a little heavier than either of us wanted 518 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 2: it to be. But I do think, like my point is, 519 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 2: can we get back to the laughter. Can we get 520 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 2: back to like allowing a joke to be a joke. 521 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:59,479 Speaker 1: Can be just laugh at yourself? Yeah, And like I 522 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: feel like yeah, and I mean maybe it's a joke 523 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 1: as a joke, but like I agree, Like I think, 524 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: to me, I'm just like we're putting so much energy 525 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 1: into more hate actually, and so like where is the love? 526 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 1: Where is the kindness? Like where is the allowing of 527 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: other opinions and things that like our culture, our country 528 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: is supposed to be built on. But it takes grace, 529 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: and it takes empathy, and it takes letting go of 530 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: your egos sometimes and you know, dropping down and being 531 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 1: like huh, I wonder what else is going on for 532 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: that person, or like not personalizing things so much, and 533 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: these big movements, I think, I think the reason I 534 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: get upset about them now is that I do feel 535 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: like they did serve a major purpose and obviously, like 536 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: I want all of those things, like I am all 537 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: for the women, I am all for ending racism, all 538 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: for all the things, and there's always gonna be bad 539 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: seeds in that too. There's people who take advantage of 540 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: the mood. There's people who are going so extreme with 541 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: it that it's absurd, you know, and they're just trying 542 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: to get money from suing a big corporation for stuff. 543 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: Like it's sad, it's actually really sad. But that's always 544 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: going to be the way our world is, because where 545 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: there's people, there's problems. As my mom says, like it's 546 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: just the truth. 547 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 2: You know, we're fallible people, we're human. 548 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: But does it do I guess the question is does 549 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: it do any good to put your energy into hating 550 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: those people or is it better to like focus on 551 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: what can I bring to the situation that's positive, or 552 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: like how can I be kind here? Or like that 553 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: kind of thing, you know, and I think I've had 554 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: a lot of lessons of that in the last year, 555 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: even of just seeing like so we are still really 556 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,719 Speaker 1: doing this, this like gotcha mentality, this whatever, and just 557 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: watching it contribute to what I view as the bigger 558 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: problem in our culture right now and the only thing 559 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: I know how to do in the situations. And I 560 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: don't know if this is right or wrong. This is 561 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: just like what my instincts tell me is to go 562 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,959 Speaker 1: in and be kind like and try to like to listen, 563 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: and I don't. I definitely don't always agree. I don't like, 564 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: you know, but like I actually also don't always need 565 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: to share my opinion on everything, if that makes sense. 566 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: Like it's just sort of like taking notes and just saying, 567 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: you know, you're probably not a person that's like for me, 568 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: like we're not going to be friends, like and it's 569 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: not like I say that, but like I can choose 570 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: who gets to come into my life and who doesn't. 571 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: I can choose what shows I watch, what podcasts I 572 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: listen to, what music I listen to. But I also 573 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: don't need to like get on Spotify and talk shit 574 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: about these artists that I don't like their music. 575 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 2: Like say, yeah, I mean I like to think it 576 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 2: more as can we change canceled to sanctioned, And it's 577 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 2: like you know what I mean, like like in the 578 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 2: pocket Book. Yeah, like I'm going to sanction you, like 579 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 2: you know what, you're actually a shitty actor anyway, I'm 580 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 2: just not going to see your movies, Like now you've 581 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 2: proven you're a shitty person and I'm just not going 582 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 2: to see it. 583 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: Really for now, for now, and we'll see how this 584 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: plays out. 585 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 2: But maybe you'll make a good movie and change my mind. 586 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love that sanction. 587 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 2: So I'm going to sanction people. 588 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: Okay. So that's our house cleaning for today, is that 589 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: we're not we're talking to you cancel culture. And actually 590 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: I'm probably I think probably most people listening right now 591 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: are like in line with us that they're exhausted. Everyone 592 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: I've talked to is like this is this is ridiculous, 593 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: Like and also we're so sensitive and that's coming from 594 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: maybe the most. 595 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 2: Feelings literally the queen of sensitivity. 596 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: Literally like if I'm saying it's too sensitive, guys, it's 597 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: like out of control. It truly is just beyond because 598 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: you can't say anything any these days about someone getting 599 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: upset like this is why I didn't want to do 600 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: this podcast because I was just like, you can't hear 601 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: about it anymore, or God forbid, I say things that 602 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: someone deems you know, like I say it wrong and 603 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: I'm just processing here, like we're all like I think 604 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: it's like you get put in an impossible situation when 605 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: you have a platform because you're wrong if you don't 606 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: talk about it, and then you're wrong if you say 607 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: it the wrong way or if you say something. 608 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 2: Shut up and sing it. 609 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: It's just like, good God, you can't win for trying 610 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: to cancel. 611 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 2: Let's cancel the hate. How about that? I love that 612 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 2: lead with love. 613 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: Cancel the hate, sanction the bad behavior. 614 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 2: Sanction bad behavior, you know, because you can lift a sanction. 615 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: You know that's true and that you and I were 616 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: talking about when we were talking about the ridiculousness of it, 617 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: and like we talked about this in the Will Smith 618 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: podcast as well. But the thing we miss when we 619 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: cancel and we just get done with someone for one 620 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: thing that they said or did wrong. I mean, I 621 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: understand some of the things are not forgivable, and maybe 622 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: it's a pattern of behavior that you know, someone does 623 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: need to like take a step back, and maybe there's 624 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: legal ramifications or whatever you want to say, but mostly 625 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: when it's a situation like Will Smith is always the 626 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: perfect example to me, like if someone he's sanctioned, right, 627 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: he got sanctioned my. 628 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 2: Opinion, and he will still get hired. He will not 629 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 2: be canceled. 630 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: You can't get up on a stage and slap somebody 631 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: like that is just not okay, it's physical abuse. But 632 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: he got so he got sanctioned. But like again, we're 633 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: not if we just get rid of Will Smith forever, 634 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: we're not giving anyone in that kind of job the 635 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: chance to be human and the chance to like learn 636 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: and grow. It isn't that the whole fucking point of life. 637 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: It has been for me. It's not like, oh no, 638 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: you're knowing how to do this. 639 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 2: But I do think that like, just because somebody makes 640 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 2: a single mistake, let's sanction them instead of canceling them, 641 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 2: because it's like, you know, it's like when you were 642 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 2: in preschool you had to go put your nose in 643 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 2: the corner, but you didn't get kicked out of fucking school. 644 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: Well, because you're learning how to be like in school, 645 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: you're what three year olds. You're learning how to maybe 646 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: evolve into a four year old. 647 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 2: It doesn't mean that you just never get to come back. 648 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 2: Like it's like, hey, go put your nose in the 649 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 2: corner and think about what you did and then apologize 650 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 2: to the person that you hit on the playground or. 651 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: Whatever it was, and like maybe learn how to do 652 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: it differently next time. You know, we were taught as 653 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: your kid, you're like, yeah, you don't hit when you 654 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 1: want your toy. You asked for your toy back nicely. 655 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,320 Speaker 1: Like it's like, where does that go as an adult? 656 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: We don't have it figured out. Jigs up, guys like yeah, 657 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 1: I feel like most parents would say that. It's like 658 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,280 Speaker 1: the order you get, you just think, oh, my parents 659 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: had this all figured out. Then you become a parent 660 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 1: and you're like, uh, I have no clue what I'm 661 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 1: doing and it becomes really obvious, you know. And that's 662 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 1: just life in general. So that's celebrities too, that's all 663 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: of it. It's all of us, definitely yep us sitting. 664 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,800 Speaker 2: On this podcast, sitting up here judging all these bad actors. 665 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: All right, Well, if you guys have opinions on this, 666 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 1: I guess we're open to them. And I'm just kidding, 667 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: we are open to them. I just asked that you 668 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: always deliver it and then kind way, and we're definitely. 669 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: I'm always open for discussion. I just am so tired 670 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: of being like just just no hate. You know, if 671 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: you don't have anything nice to say, or you don't 672 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: want to have an open discussion where we have differing opinions, 673 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: keep it to yourself. I guess I don't know. 674 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 2: Well, yeah what or or deliver it as a question, 675 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 2: like make it a dialogue. Yeah, just like an attack. 676 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: I'd love to have a thought provoking conversation and I 677 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: always want to be stimulated or learn more. 678 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, change my mind, Yeah, change my mind if like, 679 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 2: if you're if there is something that like you are 680 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 2: that without being hateful, you know, if there's something that 681 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:42,280 Speaker 2: you're committed to so strongly in your beliefs, then change 682 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 2: my mind. Give me a reason to think differently. 683 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 1: Right, and I'll tell you how you don't change your 684 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: hand is if you just come hate me. Yeah, it 685 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: actually just shuts me down and like makes me block. 686 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 2: You hate me silently. I don't care if you like me. 687 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 2: I mean, I do appreciate you listening. 688 00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: But yeah, well hopefully if you yeah, and if you 689 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: have anything to weigh in on, you can always email 690 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: us at the edge at velvet edge dot com. You 691 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 1: can hit me up on Insta I'm at velvet Edge. 692 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 2: Chip send all hate mail to at velvet Edge. I'm kidding. 693 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 2: You can send my hat block button. So h I 694 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 2: P D O R S C H. 695 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure I said some things that maybe I didn't 696 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: fully mean in this podcast, but I really tried my 697 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: best to sanction us. Yeah. Well, also though, I really 698 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: did try my best to just express how I'm feeling 699 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: right now, and feelings are not facts. We're just processing 700 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 1: here today, So please take it all, take what you 701 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: like and leave the rest. That's what I would like 702 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 1: to say. And as you guys go into your weekend 703 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,840 Speaker 1: and you're living on the edge, I hope you always 704 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: remember too at casual, please that casual guys go 705 00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 2: By bye.