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Speaker 1: Good morning, swerel and welcome to the Not Dunks Podcast,

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Speaker 1: presented by Fan Duel, Tuesday, November fourth, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jay Skeets here in the Classic Factory and alongside

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Speaker 1: me as always from out under the desk, it's tas Melis.

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Speaker 2: I like sitting in a chair. How's your back feeling fine?

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Speaker 2: Totally funny. People were worried about the bows and everything.

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Speaker 2: They're all good, good, good.

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Speaker 1: Next to him, it's Patasha Hot Boys, trick herby, Hey

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Speaker 1: hey yo, and over Yonder making the magic happen. Super

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Speaker 1: producer jd Ella. There he is, and we have a

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Speaker 1: special guest today. If you're online, you've seen him, you've

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Speaker 1: heard him. He was a long time engagement editor for

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Speaker 1: Vox sp Nation Secret Base and now he's kicking ass

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Speaker 1: in the sports content space on his own. It's Kofe Yoboa, Kofe.

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Speaker 1: Good morning to you. What's up?

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Speaker 3: Man? Morning, Good morning. How are you guys doing.

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Speaker 1: We are great pumped that you rolled out of bed

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Speaker 1: and jumped on with us because you are on the

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Speaker 1: West coast, so it's matterally for you.

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Speaker 3: I am. I will never get used to this. I

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Speaker 3: will never get used to the West Coast time.

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Speaker 4: I've been here for three years, I've every time I'm like, wow,

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Speaker 4: it's like this. The games are ending and it's still

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Speaker 4: like there's still stuff to do.

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Speaker 3: Mean, it'll live your life.

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Speaker 1: That's interesting. So you're you're actually not a fan of

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Speaker 1: West Coast sports viewing because the people that live out

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Speaker 1: there are like, it's the pass. What's wrong with you

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Speaker 1: East Coast people? You're crazy.

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Speaker 3: I am a fan, but I am a night owl.

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Speaker 4: So I think for basketball it's perfect, but for like,

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Speaker 4: you know, college football, I might. I might mess around

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Speaker 4: and miss the entire first slate sometimes. So it has

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Speaker 4: it has its a here's and theres you know.

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Speaker 1: Fair enough? Fair enough. Well, we're excited to finally have

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Speaker 1: you on No Dunks. We got lots to talk about.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get into your red hot Detroit Pistons, who

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Speaker 1: are on fire to start this season. But I saw

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Speaker 1: that last night you were definitely on Twitch. You were

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Speaker 1: live streaming when Jannie hit a fadeaway buzzer beating jumper

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Speaker 1: to give the Bucks the one seventeen one fifteen victory

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Speaker 1: over the Pacers. Last night, you sort of were in

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Speaker 1: awe on the live stream and then you were like

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Speaker 1: talking about how much you love this rivalry between the

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Speaker 1: two teams.

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Speaker 4: I just love the history, like the history of the Lord.

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Speaker 4: Even with the last couple of seasons where they had

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Speaker 4: they had the argument over the game ball thing was

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Speaker 4: like I got sixty. The Pacers are like, nah, this

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Speaker 4: is this is our guys.

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Speaker 3: First week, it's the funniest It's one of the funniest things.

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Speaker 4: And then you know, of course you had the last

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Speaker 4: year's playoff series where Yannis and Tyresee's dad, and then

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Speaker 4: you have now you have a mouth turner going over

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Speaker 4: to the dark side for many Pacers fans, right. I

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Speaker 4: think there's just I love when nbas do have rivalries

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Speaker 4: and they have bullet points that are really recent, not

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Speaker 4: just historic. So Jana is hitting that shot and then

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Speaker 4: doing the double thumbs down, priceless.

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Speaker 3: That's great, that's great work.

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Speaker 1: I love that incredible.

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Speaker 2: I was his brother trying to clean up his thumbs.

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Speaker 2: His brother was there. Fanasis was flipping those hands.

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Speaker 1: Those aren't cool. He was like relaxed, bro. I think

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Speaker 1: he was trying to like police are like parent him

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, that's how I read it. I

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Speaker 1: don't know about you, Kobe, how did you take his

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Speaker 1: brother saying hey, that's enough thumbs down his hands.

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Speaker 4: I think that's uh, you know, Yanni's being like in

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Speaker 4: the heat of the moment, and then his brother has like,

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Speaker 4: who's been like on the sidelines, So he's probably been

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Speaker 4: listening to everything that the fans have been saying a

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Speaker 4: little bit more intently.

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Speaker 3: He's probably like, let's get out of here.

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Speaker 1: Maybe. What did you think of the Indiana fans booing

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Speaker 1: Miles Turner during the tribute video? Was that shocking to you?

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Speaker 1: He seemed pretty like heartbroken over it? But what was

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Speaker 1: your take on that?

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Speaker 4: It's sad, but I'm really not surprised because I think

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Speaker 4: one of the biggest things as a fan, you see

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Speaker 4: like your longtime hero go to basically one of the

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Speaker 4: teams that you despise the most, even though it's one

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Speaker 4: of those things where, yes, the the Pacers were not

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Speaker 4: gonna pay Miles Turner the money he wanted, right, So

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Speaker 4: it's one of those things where mouths like, I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: like it would be Pacers or Pistons, Miles Turner went

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Speaker 4: So I understand the fans being like super upset, But

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Speaker 4: then Miles Turner being hurt because he like hurt by

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Speaker 4: it because he gave them so many years in so

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Speaker 4: many seasons, is also one hundred percent valid.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think that's true. And he did say

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Speaker 1: stuff right on his way to Milwaukee. No, I think

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Speaker 1: he got like aggregated a little bit. I think in

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Speaker 1: full context on these podcasts and things he was saying

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Speaker 1: about the fan base in Indiana and his time with

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Speaker 1: it's like, oh, I think if you're a Pacers fan trade,

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Speaker 1: you're like, God, damn, come on man, we were we

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Speaker 1: were rided out with you. And then that was maybe

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Speaker 1: part of the whole booze. That's my guess, at least

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Speaker 1: I think that's exactly it.

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Speaker 5: Unfortunately, this is transpiring between Miles Turner and the fans

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Speaker 5: not pay him what he thought he was worth. Now,

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Speaker 5: it was a Miles Turner decision to sign with the

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Speaker 5: rivals of the Pacers, so that's interesting. But he did

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Speaker 5: like the closing the book thing. When they were showing

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Speaker 5: his tribute video, He's like, I'm done with this, he says,

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Speaker 5: I've been dealing with constant disdain while he was there,

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Speaker 5: and the guy was in trade rumors. Yeah, basically the

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Speaker 5: entirety of his ten seasons in Indiana. So I don't know,

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Speaker 5: it's just going to take what probably ten years until

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Speaker 5: they all sweep this under the ruggets, Like when Rayel

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Speaker 5: and left the Boston Celtics and the one team you

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Speaker 5: can't sign with is the Miami Heat.

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Speaker 6: Who do you sign with the Miami Heat? This is

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Speaker 6: I guess a.

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Speaker 5: Little probably a step below ray Allen, but still you

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Speaker 5: can understand the feelings from both perspectives.

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Speaker 6: But I don't know. They offered to pay.

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Speaker 1: Him more money, so yeah, yeah, I don't blame him

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Speaker 1: and Kofe with the Bucks five and two, Jannis averaging

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Speaker 1: thirty four points per game, thirteen boards, seven assists. I

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Speaker 1: know it's early, got to throw that out there, but like,

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Speaker 1: where do you have Yiannis in Kofe's sort of MVP ranking?

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Speaker 4: I always usually have sort of an MVP tierless kind

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Speaker 4: those things where I feel like we kind of feel

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Speaker 4: like get numb to these Yannis box scores where it's like,

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Speaker 4: oh yeah, thirty three thirteen, six assists. Oh, by the way,

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Speaker 4: two steals, two blocks, and but he just does this

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Speaker 4: on a nightly basis, and I'm tired of him cooking

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Speaker 3: So I'm probably.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we'll get out of here Yannas who were

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Speaker 4: playing next. But I feel like when we look back

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Speaker 3: Like, oh yeah.

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Speaker 4: And I feel like a lot of players careers honestly

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Speaker 4: in the MVP race where if they don't win, I'm like, dang,

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Speaker 4: they did try it. They're all like what else could

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Speaker 4: they have done? And if they do win, I'm like,

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Speaker 4: I can I can live with this? Like it was

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Speaker 4: just like that was Sjay and Jokic last last year.

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Speaker 4: I was like, I can win, I can I can

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Speaker 4: deal with either side winning the MVP. I'm like, I

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Speaker 4: have no arguments. I think that we're in it. I

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Speaker 4: don't know how it was a couple like two decades ago,

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Speaker 4: if they win it, I understand why they get.

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Speaker 3: The votes that they do.

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Speaker 2: As for Yanni's game winners, this is the best one.

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Speaker 1: Interesting of two.

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Speaker 5: No, no, he said buzzer beaters. I'm saying buzzer beaters.

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Speaker 5: And his previous one was in twenty seventeen. It's almost

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Speaker 5: identical this. We're in black jerseys, even fade away from

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Speaker 5: the mid range. Even the difference is in the one

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Speaker 5: in twenty seventeen against the next he starts in the post.

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Speaker 6: This one he starts outside.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this one was more designed. You're shooting it from

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Speaker 2: Thomas number forty two Lance Thomas, and you start in

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Speaker 2: the mid range. After literally like twelve seconds of dribbling,

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Speaker 2: they're playing one on one. Yeah, and so this one

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Speaker 2: was different because it was designed. Here we go, it feels,

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Speaker 2: it feels better, and the celebration whether it's a thumbs

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Speaker 2: down or yeah, it's bigger. This is the one I'm

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Speaker 1: Okay, where do you yeah? Do you have this at

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Speaker 1: the top of Y's game winners list? KOFE so far?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, dude.

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Speaker 4: The double thumbs down, the shush, into the double thumbs down,

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Speaker 4: into the oh, we're not even gonna wait for if

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Speaker 4: they need to review it or not.

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Speaker 3: We're leaving. We don't want to be here any longer.

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Speaker 3: I love that.

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Speaker 4: It reminds me of the Derek Fisher zero point four

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Speaker 4: you don't want to be here any longer than we

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Speaker 4: want to. We know you guys, hate us love. I

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Speaker 4: love that aspect of that so much.

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Speaker 1: It was good. I think it gets overlooked a little

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Speaker 1: bit because of the double thumbs down then the shush.

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Speaker 1: He's also grabbing his junk, yes he is, and I

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Speaker 1: don't know if it's a j green getting there pretty

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Speaker 1: early that's sort of like, maybe stop the junk grab.

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Speaker 1: But he I don't know if he had like Sam

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Speaker 1: Cassell ideas going on here, but he's got his one

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Speaker 1: hand down there and that was it.

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Speaker 5: He moved on but a different sort of game balls

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Speaker 5: that he was grabbing on. What I did like that

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Speaker 5: people zoomed in on the Indiana Pacers crowd to find

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Speaker 5: John Halliburton. He was there to witness it because you know,

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Speaker 5: Tyese isn't playing. Is he going to be at every game?

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Speaker 5: You got to show up for a rivalry game like

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Speaker 5: the Bucks. So it would have been cool to see Yannis,

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Speaker 5: like pretend he was holding the towel or something as well.

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Speaker 6: But you know, maybe he'll hit another game winner John

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Speaker 6: Pacers at some point.

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Speaker 2: John wasn't in the front row right, he was in

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Speaker 2: his suite.

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Speaker 5: No, he was by the stanching kind of I.

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Speaker 2: Saw would go right up to him. I think he'd

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Speaker 2: be comfortable whether it's grabbing the junko and thumbs down, probably.

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Speaker 1: A yeah for John Holibert, who's your daddy to Dad Haliburton,

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Speaker 1: that would have been great. So what a fun game,

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Speaker 4: I honestly think that this is one of the more

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Speaker 5: They've beat some good teams as well. They beat the Rockets.

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Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, absolutely, Kofe. Who I mean, Kaid's obvious.

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Speaker 1: But who to you on this Pistons team has impressed

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Speaker 3: Early start of this season, I gotta go with Isaiah Stewart.

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Speaker 4: I gotta go with Isaiah Stewart and he it's at

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Speaker 1: Yeah, tough to disagree with that one tasting twenty four

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Speaker 1: Great, yeah, I love Maybe there's some maturity with Beefs

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Speaker 6: Pay it off now for sure.

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Speaker 5: in some sort of form, and then the Pistons were

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Speaker 5: right there with the Magic and the Hawks, and we

435
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Speaker 5: weren't sure what the Celtics were going to look like.

436
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Speaker 5: We weren't sure what the Pacers were going to look like.

437
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Speaker 5: The Heat are better than expected, but I think you

438
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Speaker 5: would definitely favor the Pistons over the Hawks and the Magic,

439
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Speaker 5: at least to start the season.

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Speaker 6: They look like.

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Speaker 5: They know how they want to be playing going forward,

442
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Speaker 5: which I don't know if you can necessarily say about

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Speaker 5: the other two teams.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's move on to an incident last night between

445
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Speaker 1: the Celtics and Jazz Kofi Jalen Brown furious after an

446
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,959
Speaker 1: apparent no call, at least in his eye, and they

447
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,160
Speaker 1: ended up losing one o five one oh three. Nurkic

448
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Speaker 1: with the game winning tip, but Jaylen Brown said, this

449
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:53,960
Speaker 1: cost us the game, and we have the clip in

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Speaker 1: case you guys missed it. Everybody on YouTube's going to

451
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Speaker 1: see it. Celtics clinging to a one point lead late

452
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Speaker 1: in the fourth, Brown him the ball at the top

453
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Speaker 1: of the key. Kiante George slips while defending Brown, causing

454
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Speaker 1: then Brown to trip over him and lose the ball.

455
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Speaker 1: Jazz go the other way they score, So it was

456
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Speaker 1: a huge, huge play in the final minute and Jalen

457
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Speaker 1: Brown was pissed. He's like, how is this not a

458
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Speaker 1: foul call? You won't believe it. Celtics broadcasts they're saying,

459
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Speaker 1: that's a foul. Where's the call? Jazz broadcast saying, I'm sorry,

460
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Speaker 1: man Keyonte slipped, Jalen was losing the ball while he slipped.

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Speaker 1: It's just one of those weird plays. Uh. How does

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Speaker 1: referee Kofe call that one? Does Jalen Brown have a

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Speaker 1: point or is that a play on? I think I have.

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Speaker 4: I think that's kind of a point because I feel like,

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Speaker 4: if we're looking at the replay, I think that it's

466
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Speaker 4: not that Jalen Brown sees him first.

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Speaker 3: I might be tripping. It might. It's not like it

468
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Speaker 3: doesn't feel like Jayleen Brown sees him.

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Speaker 4: And it also feels like Jalen Brown slips a little

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Speaker 4: bit as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah that's what the rest said.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so now that like it's tough. But that's why.

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Speaker 4: That's why even though I like, even though I talked

474
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Speaker 4: down on a referee all the time, it's one of

475
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Speaker 4: those things where.

476
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Speaker 3: They a referee could be like, why don't you do this?

477
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Speaker 6: I'm like, I would never do this.

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Speaker 4: I totally, I totally understand Jylen Brown's frustration here, especially

479
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Speaker 4: since they're playing at home, so maybe he's expecting a

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Speaker 4: little bit of home cooking or whatnot. But saying that

481
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Speaker 4: that lost the game will often like bear more like

482
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Speaker 4: weight in how we talk about things, because if a

483
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Speaker 4: player usually like no, that moment right there and not like, oh, yeah,

484
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Speaker 4: we we did this and then we know these things happen.

485
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Speaker 4: Jaylen Brown being like, yeah, no, that loss is the game.

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Speaker 4: I think that will probably hope. Well, he's probably trying

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Speaker 4: to put more of a magnifying glass on just refereeing

488
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Speaker 4: in general as well.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's gonna get fine too, because he said

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Speaker 1: the whole staff blows the fucking call, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. So he like went into that postgame pres conversation.

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Speaker 1: I know, I'm gonna get digging for this one. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna cost me some money. But he's it cost him

494
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Speaker 1: the game tasks. You know, we see to play a

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Speaker 1: couple of times. How would you have called it? It's

496
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Speaker 1: a weird one.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't have called it. But then you watch it

498
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Speaker 2: on replay and you see his left foot slip because

499
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Speaker 2: there's a person in front of him, and so he

500
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Speaker 2: he definitely slips on some sort of wetness, but that

501
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Speaker 2: may have been caused by Kante's But.

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Speaker 1: No, well, if you watch the play in totality, yeah,

503
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Speaker 1: it's Kaita that goes down before they those guys get

504
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Speaker 1: to that part of the floor. He falls down on

505
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Speaker 1: his ass. That's where the sweat all that comes from

506
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 1: play sort of develops. And then Konte goes down, then

507
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,439
Speaker 1: Jalen goes down. It's like comedy of errors here, but

508
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Speaker 1: that's what I started.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like he's trying to divert his dribble.

510
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 2: He's trying to move in a different direction when he

511
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Speaker 2: sees Kiante George in front of it, and then he

512
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Speaker 2: steps on something that makes him slip either way and

513
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Speaker 2: then he just falls over Yiante George. Like Kofi is saying,

514
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Speaker 2: they lost for another reason, they lost because they shot

515
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Speaker 2: fifty one threas and they only hit eleven. That is

516
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Speaker 2: the first time that they've ever done that. They've never

517
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Speaker 2: hit that few of threes when taking fifty threes in

518
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Speaker 2: the game. That's their lowest. Fourteen was the lowest before.

519
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 2: And there's an other reasons, like County George that was

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Speaker 2: the guy that was the reason why they Jazz won

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Speaker 2: the game. He had a sixteen point third quarter. He

522
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Speaker 2: was manstrous to get them back. I love saying the

523
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Speaker 2: word manstris. I know our fans say, hey, why are

524
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Speaker 2: you say mantris all the time? We all have our work. Yeah,

525
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Speaker 2: whatever words. But Conte George is he's a new player.

526
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Speaker 2: We're talking about Pistons as new players. This guy looks

527
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 2: way different. But Jane Brown's got to complain about it.

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Speaker 2: He's got to complain about it. You fell over a body, yeah,

529
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Speaker 2: and he.

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Speaker 5: Was cooking Jalen Brown, Yeah, completely killing in the fourth quarter. Cato, though,

531
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Speaker 5: is rising on my slipperyest, sweatiest guys in the league. Because,

532
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Speaker 5: like you're saying, Skatzy goes out there, he falls down,

533
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Speaker 5: Cante George falls down, Jalen Brown falls down. They still

534
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Speaker 5: don't have time to clean it up. So the next

535
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Speaker 5: time down, Walter Clayton Junior slipped twice on the same

536
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Speaker 5: sweat spot. This guy must be soaking wet and maybe

537
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Speaker 5: that's why the Jazz were able to slip off him

538
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 5: and grab fifteen offensive rebounds, including the game winner from Nurkic,

539
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Speaker 5: which came after this call. The game was tied. They

540
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 5: still didn't get body on body. Nurkic boards puts it in.

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Speaker 5: That was their fifteenth offensive rebound. Celtics dominated, were dominated

542
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 5: on the glass fifty five to thirty six. The Jazz

543
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 5: are a big team. You know they're playing market in.

544
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Speaker 5: Nurkic was out there last night, Filipowski. They got seven

545
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Speaker 5: footers in the lineup, three of them even Kevin Love

546
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 5: is doing stuff. Also, fifty four to forty points in

547
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Speaker 5: the paint advantage for Utah. This didn't help falling down.

548
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Speaker 5: I mean, that's a ton of contact. You can't guard

549
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 5: a guy when you're lying on the ground, So you

550
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 5: could understood if there was a foul call. But what

551
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Speaker 5: really lost in the game was missing a ton of

552
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Speaker 5: threes and not rebounding. That's how the Celtics are gonna

553
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Speaker 5: lose every game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk big picture here, Kofy. What's been your

555
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 1: biggest early season surprise so far? What do you got?

556
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Speaker 3: It has to be Chicago, let's go.

557
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Speaker 1: It has to be You don't need to pander to

558
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Speaker 1: Trey Cerby.

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Speaker 6: He's right, he watched.

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Speaker 4: He watched opening night, I watched the opening game, I

561
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Speaker 4: watched the opening seats game, and I was just like, oh,

562
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 4: like we're oh, the ball is flying around.

563
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Speaker 3: It's hard for me to like.

564
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Speaker 4: I never I rarely watched teams in the NBA and

565
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 4: be like, I wish we played like that on like

566
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Speaker 4: a week on like a day to day basis, But

567
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,360
Speaker 4: they like play the style of basketball that I They're played,

568
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 4: the tilet basketball that I love, which is like getting

569
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Speaker 4: out in transition, shaving the ball around and whatnot. And

570
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Speaker 4: I do the winds the wind streak, I was like, oh,

571
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Speaker 4: But then I felt like, you know, I don't want

572
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Speaker 4: to put myself in Chicago Bulls fans shoes, but I

573
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 4: feel like maybe you kind of have a hesitancy to

574
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Speaker 4: like acknowledge it and be like, oh man, we're doing

575
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 4: so well. It's like the moment you say it's all

576
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 4: going to like just blow up and smoke. But yeah, no,

577
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Speaker 4: definitely the Chicago Bulls being atop of the East, I

578
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Speaker 4: was not expected.

579
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Speaker 3: Well.

580
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Speaker 5: I wasn't feeling bad about the wind streak because I

581
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Speaker 5: texted every Knicks fan I know after they beat him.

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Speaker 1: On Friday.

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Speaker 5: I went to five and oh for the first time

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Speaker 5: since the dynasty years. And then I did say anything

585
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Speaker 5: after they got smoked by.

586
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Speaker 3: The mix.

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Speaker 6: On Sunday. But I mean two of.

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Speaker 5: The biggest surprises definitely are the Bulls and the seventy

589
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Speaker 5: six Ers. They played a night let's see this more

590
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 5: real tonight. On one side, you got the seventy six

591
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 5: ers who just bomb threes. On the other side, the

592
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 5: Bulls basically took away threes at least through the first

593
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Speaker 5: four games. I think they gave up thirty eight threes

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Speaker 5: to the Knicks in two games eighteen and twenty. Prior

595
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 5: to that, they'd given up twenty eight the first four games.

596
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Speaker 5: So it does feel a little fake Ski to me

597
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 5: at some point. But I love seeing them at the

598
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Speaker 5: top of the standings right now, oh for sure.

599
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Speaker 6: And they are fun to watch.

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Speaker 5: Like Kofi is saying, they're a team that is definitely

601
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 5: inspired by the Pacers' success. The last couple of seasons,

602
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 5: Pacers had ten good guys played as fast as they

603
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 5: possibly could, and that's what the Bulls are trying to do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great point. Jared McCain. I believe is

605
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: expected to play to night for.

606
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Speaker 3: The Philadelphia so we need everything must watch games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's exciting. Gives already an interesting game,

608
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: some more juice and.

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Speaker 2: That's why it's our pickham game. Yeah, maybe that's the

610
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 2: one we're excited about. Okay, sorry Peacock, NBCT Hawks Magic,

611
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah.

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Speaker 1: You know what, it's the perfect time to ask KOFE,

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Speaker 1: who's like, has a lot of opinions in this space,

614
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: what's been your takeaways from the new broadcast partners be

615
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,239
Speaker 1: at NBC, Amazon Prime. Like, fan of it for the

616
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 1: most part. Things can change. What do you think?

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00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 4: I'm fan of it for the most part because it

618
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 4: felt it feels like on a day to day basis,

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Speaker 4: we have people now that are broadcasting on national media

620
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 4: landscape that actually like they actually sound like they want

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Speaker 4: to be there, right.

622
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Speaker 3: I think that we had that problem.

623
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Speaker 4: We had a problem with that like last year, where

624
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 4: it sometimes just didn't sound like it didn't sound like

625
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 4: the people that were analyzing the game before the game

626
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 4: started wanted to be there. And it's really disheartening when

627
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Speaker 4: you are a new team and you are getting a

628
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 4: couple more national TV recognitions, then you get to the

629
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Speaker 4: analysis and they're just like, oh man, well none of

630
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 4: these teams are championship.

631
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 3: Why watch Friday?

632
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 4: And then but then you got you got, then you

633
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 4: got Prime where it's like, oh, yeah, let's give you

634
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 4: Donna's has them a tablet. Let's see, let's have Steve

635
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 4: Nash and Dirk and Blake Griffin and they kind of

636
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 4: they're I mean, they're still working out their chemistry, but

637
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 4: there have been some moments where they're like, oh, and

638
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna take it a step further where

639
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 4: there's an example where Steve Nash was talking about like

640
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 4: pick and roll coverage and then Blake Griffin was giving

641
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 4: his perspective as like a big man in today's NBA,

642
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 4: and I was like.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm talking about. This is all we like.

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00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 4: I think that for us, I know a lot of

645
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 4: people are like, man, the NBA, NBC and Prime coverage

646
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 4: is doing so great, and I think that the overwhelming

647
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 4: outpour of this, even though it's just the start, is

648
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 4: that the bar was so low and it wasn't being cleared.

649
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 4: And I feel like that's why that's why I'm excited.

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Speaker 4: I know that I've talked to some fans and they've

651
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Speaker 4: been like, oh, a National TV game like kind of

652
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Speaker 4: every day and won't that get exhausting? And I'm like No, Actually,

653
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Speaker 4: I think that this is going to be a really

654
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Speaker 4: great thing. I think that the competitiveness in terms of

655
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Speaker 4: how the sport is coveraged only benefits us.

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Speaker 1: All yeah, I'd agree with that. I mean, we've already

657
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Speaker 1: talked about it a little bit, but it is nice

658
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Speaker 1: to have some competition, you know, changing sort of from

659
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Speaker 1: night to night. Now. Is it tough maybe as some

660
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Speaker 1: consumer to be like, what what is this on tonight?

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Speaker 1: Where am I going? Is it Peacock is an NBC?

662
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Speaker 1: Am I going to Amazon? Prime? Whatever? But once you

663
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Speaker 1: figure it out, it is cool to get this refreshing

664
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Speaker 1: sort of look at the game, a positive look at

665
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Speaker 1: the game at that I think right now, if I'm

666
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Speaker 1: ranking them, I do like the Prime team over the

667
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Speaker 1: NBC team. We're talking more like Vince and Tracy and Carmel,

668
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Speaker 1: and I don't think it's bad, but I just think

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Speaker 1: the way what they're doing over there on Prime is

670
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Speaker 1: a little more exciting than what I've seen so far

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Speaker 1: from the NBC crew.

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Speaker 5: Blake is a Prime guy, is that right? I think

673
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Speaker 5: he's the best of everybody that's new to him.

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Speaker 1: Talking about Joe Morant was great.

675
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Speaker 5: Here I'm talking about John Moran He's like, he's funny,

676
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Speaker 5: but he's not out there just trying to do jokes

677
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Speaker 5: the entire time.

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Speaker 6: He explains things pretty well.

679
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Speaker 5: He played such a long time and so recently that

680
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Speaker 5: he has relationships and knowledge of the new game. I

681
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Speaker 5: really like what I've heard from Blake Griffin. Did you

682
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Speaker 5: see Vince and Carmelo playing in the sandbox last night?

683
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Speaker 5: They were like moving little images of players around trying

684
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Speaker 5: to explain different health concepts and stuff.

685
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Speaker 1: Oh, jankie yanky.

686
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Speaker 5: With the technology, but I thought it was cool to.

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Speaker 2: See at least literally in a sandbox.

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Speaker 6: No, the sandbox, it was like on a cord.

689
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no technology problems if you're playing in the sandbox.

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Speaker 1: Figurines, Yeah, you can try that. We got a couple

691
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Speaker 1: more questions before we let you go KOFE. Maybe let

692
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Speaker 1: you go back to bed for all I know. But

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Speaker 1: do you respect the Cup? Because on this podcast we do,

694
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Speaker 1: so we need your opinion. Are you a Cup fan

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Speaker 1: or no?

696
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Speaker 3: I've been to the well.

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Speaker 4: I went to the first iteration when I was in

698
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Speaker 4: season tournament, and I when I first went to the

699
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Speaker 4: one in Vegas, I had doubts. I have my doubts,

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Speaker 4: but as soon as I saw the atmosphere, the collaboration,

701
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Speaker 4: like all these NBA fans, because you know, NBA fans

702
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Speaker 4: are everywhere.

703
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 3: NBA fans like the travel.

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Speaker 4: It's always a beautiful site when you can just see

705
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Speaker 4: a collaboration of so many NBA fans just be like, oh,

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Speaker 4: I hope my team does win something this year, Like

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Speaker 4: you have that aspect of you know where it's like, oh,

708
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 4: we did win the NBA Cup, And it's it's cool

709
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Speaker 4: to see the players play for something. It's cool to

710
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Speaker 4: see like the whole point differential aspect of it, like

711
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 4: it's goal differential in soccer. I am a believer. I'm

712
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 4: not a believer in all of the courts. Some of them,

713
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Speaker 4: some of them get really hard to enjoy what's going on.

714
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Speaker 4: But and but that's about it. I like the I

715
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Speaker 4: like the Cup, and I think that it's like it's

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Speaker 4: something right.

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Speaker 5: Cup respector we need to hear do you prefer? It

718
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 5: basically comes down to you like gray courts or colorful courts.

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Speaker 4: I like colorful courts when they're not neon the timberable one.

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Speaker 3: I'm not really a fan of. I can go too far.

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Speaker 4: I understand, I understand the people don't like a lot

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Speaker 4: of the red courts. If that, if that's something like,

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Speaker 4: I'm like, they're if they if someone has like a

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Speaker 4: color that they're just not a fan of the I'm

725
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Speaker 4: gonna be like, I totally it totally checks out. Like

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Speaker 4: if someone's like, I don't like the navy blue courts,

727
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Speaker 4: I'm like, cool, Like, my least favorite cup court is

728
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Speaker 4: the Lakers yellow, because I personally, I just don't like

729
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Speaker 4: when the Lakers wear that yellow. It just peeps out

730
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Speaker 4: of it feels out of character when they I you know,

731
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Speaker 4: and I hate to sound like back in my day,

732
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Speaker 4: I'm like, the Lakers have beautiful purple and gold, and

733
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Speaker 4: then they went to like lighter yellow and weirder purple, and.

734
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Speaker 3: It just.

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Speaker 4: I'm very I'm a very like NBA aesthetic person. So

736
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Speaker 4: that's why like some some cup courts, I'm like, Okay,

737
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 4: but you can't.

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Speaker 3: You can't hit on all of them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. And I think I even saw a

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Speaker 1: short of yours. You're not the biggest fan of even

741
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: your own favorite teams court. Is that right? You're not

742
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Speaker 1: the biggest fan of the Pistons court.

743
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not.

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Speaker 4: And it's not even the court more of just like

745
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 4: the jerseys. I'm tired of of us wearing the Pepsi

746
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Speaker 4: Max jerseys because don't play well in them. We don't

747
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Speaker 4: play well at all. There's a guy on Twitter. His

748
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 4: name is a Their name is Piston's uniform tracker. Right

749
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 4: last season tracked all of the jerseys, and the uniform

750
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Speaker 4: tracker the black Pepsi jerseys were our worst by far.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, and I don't know, Like what if

752
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 4: the team, you know, there's an analytics team, but I

753
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 4: would be like, hey, guys, I know this might sound crazy,

754
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 4: but we don't do well in these jerseys for.

755
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Speaker 1: Some reason, So just stop out our jersey, stop playing them. Yeah,

756
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 1: maybe it's as simple as that. What are your thoughts

757
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: on this super Pistons fan, the so Korean guy who

758
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: like popped off recently?

759
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 3: Oh Tom, Yeah, No, Tom's great.

760
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: Him everywhere suddenly I was in Seoul.

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Speaker 4: I was in Seoul recently, and my regret was that

762
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Speaker 4: I didn't reach out, like I knew him on Twitter

763
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,439
Speaker 4: and it didn't like I was there for a week

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Speaker 4: and it didn't.

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Speaker 3: It didn't like click to me, being like, all, there

766
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 3: is a Pistons fan here.

767
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 4: He doesn't know that, but but it's it's really cool

768
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 4: to see the Pistons whenever a fan does come over

769
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 4: from overseas and you know, they they really welcome them

770
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 4: in because again, like the NBA is the global game

771
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 4: and you do have super fans, and I feel like

772
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,479
Speaker 4: it's always awesome when a league or a team does

773
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Speaker 4: go the extra milet being like, we salute you for

774
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 4: rooting for us from all the way over there, because

775
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 4: like the time zones are tough, right if you're watching

776
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 4: these games live, right, I think South Korea. I don't

777
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 4: know at the time own differences, but I think it's

778
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Speaker 4: over twelve.

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00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,720
Speaker 1: I think so. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And then last year we had a Pistons Jack who

781
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 4: I think is from Australia. Okay, he showed up last

782
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 4: season and was and was not show I mean he's

783
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 4: been a Pistons very for a long time.

784
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

785
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 4: Then he like he went from he came from Australia,

786
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 4: visited Detroit and the Pistons again gave him a very

787
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 4: good treatment. So it's one of the things where I

788
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 4: wasn't surprised at the Pistons did this because that's an

789
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 4: organization they have done this, like in the past, But

790
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 4: it was really cool to see someone not from the

791
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Speaker 4: area just be so immersed with the area and like

792
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,280
Speaker 4: be like, where are the all the food spots? Yeah,

793
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 4: and then like even other teams. I think he went

794
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 4: to a hockey game as well. I think that's really

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Speaker 4: one of the coolest things is when I like a

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00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:54,919
Speaker 4: sports organization does change, like just makes a memory that

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00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 4: they're gonna have forever.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely. Well, look, before we let you go, how

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00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: is the going solo here in the sports content space

800
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: going for you? Obviously? I mean we're sort of doing

801
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: the same thing. It's a new era for us, but

802
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: you're you're an expert in this.

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Speaker 3: How's it going, dude, it's going. It's going well.

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Speaker 4: I think that you know, I got laid off in February,

805
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 4: but I think that the thing for me is that

806
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 4: I'm still getting used to being on my own right.

807
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 4: It's one of the things where when you work for

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00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 4: a corporation, you have certain benefits that you don't really

809
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 4: need to think about. You don't need to think about views,

810
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 4: retention rate, you don't need to think about what advertisements

811
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Speaker 4: you should or should stay away from, or should do.

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Speaker 4: It's one of those things where it keeps me up

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00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 4: in terms of just being like I'm on my own

814
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 4: right now, I'm not. I don't like it's I can

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00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 4: do whatever I want in terms of every topic I want.

816
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 4: But I also could do that at Box and Secret Base.

817
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 4: So I think for me, the outpour of support has

818
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 4: been positive. I was able to each one hundred thousand

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Speaker 4: subscribers recently, which.

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Speaker 3: Has always been a goal of mine.

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Speaker 4: So seeing the support from people that have loved my

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Speaker 4: content in the past really does keep it going. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's it's always like a little bit challenging, a little

824
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 4: bit daunting, but there's nothing else I would rather do

825
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 4: in this life than just keep creating.

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Speaker 1: Well, you're killing it man, continued success. Really appreciate you

827
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Speaker 1: jumping on. We'll have to have you back. I don't

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Speaker 1: know when the Pistons and Bulls are playing in the

829
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: East side of the NBA Cup Final something. Well, look,

830
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Speaker 1: are you are you planning on going to Vegas again

831
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Speaker 1: here for the NBA Cup? Maybe we can link up

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Speaker 1: there if we get out there this year.

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Speaker 4: I would love to. It's not currently on the schedule. Okay, okay,

834
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Speaker 4: but you know I do. I do live close in

835
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Speaker 4: the West, so it's not it's not the it's not

836
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Speaker 4: the hardest trip to plan.

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Speaker 1: So okay, well i'll see. Yeah, we'll stay in touch.

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Speaker 1: Kofee thanks again, everybody here in No Dunk's Land. Make

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Speaker 1: sure you go check out kofee across all the social

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Speaker 1: media channels cofey on YouTube, Tube and Instagram and Twitter,

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Speaker 1: and then Blues Guy and tiktokod Twitch and I'm sure

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Speaker 1: I'm forgetting ten others. KOFE thanks a lot.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 1: We'll let you go and we'll talk again soon.

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Speaker 3: Dude.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, guys, thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 4: It's an honor to be on this show.

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Speaker 1: Awesome, Oh appreciate it. Sums up for KOFE in the

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Speaker 1: stream team. Right now, we're going to take a quick break.

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Speaker 1: As discussed yesterday, the relationship between John Morant and the

893
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 1: Memphis Grizzlies took an unexpected and sudden turn over the weekend.

894
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: The team suspended the All Star one game for comments

895
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Speaker 1: detrimental to the team following that very weird loss to

896
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: the Lakers where it seemed like he sort of gave

897
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 1: up in the second half. He was pouting. He returned

898
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: last night, played against Kofe's Pistons. They did lows. He

899
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: looked okay, but he told reporters John Morant did after

900
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: the game that he's lost his joy playing basketball. He

901
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: didn't do a lot trade to sort of quiet the

902
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: buzz around his relationship with the staff and maybe the

903
00:41:58,440 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: front office.

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Speaker 5: Like right, oh, definitely not. He's doing the Jimmy Butler playbook.

905
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 5: We give up on the team and then we say

906
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 5: we're not having fun out there. Will it ever come back?

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00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: I don't know.

908
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 6: That was disappointing because.

909
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 5: I'm with you on the court, I thought he looked

910
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 5: like he's looked this season. Not highlight job Morant, but

911
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 5: playing driving, getting teammates, involved, doing the things you're expecting

912
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 5: from John Morant. But then to see the way the

913
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 5: postgame press conferences transpired, he's a bad taste in your mouth.

914
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't go out of his way to make

915
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 2: everyone feel better, that's for sure. No, he was asked,

916
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 2: do you have a comfortable relationship, and he said, yes,

917
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 2: I do, or else I wouldn't talk to them at all.

918
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: Yeah.

919
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he kind of said that, But he also

920
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,479
Speaker 2: didn't say he said yet, I'm not really all that happy.

921
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 2: You could see it, not a smile for the entire

922
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 2: press conference, not feeling extremely happy. But on the court,

923
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 2: things were all right. It was bodying kid. With a

924
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 2: couple of minutes left, he was getting into it.

925
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, So the Grizzlies face a classic NBA star player

926
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,760
Speaker 1: conundrum here, Right, let's just get into it. On one hand,

927
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 1: he's their franchise cornerstone. He's had team's success, right, You've

928
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: seen the numbers When he plays with Jaron Jackson Jr.

929
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 1: They win a lot of regular seas in the game.

930
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: So there's that. On the other hand, it's like, how

931
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: do you trust him to fulfill his commitment to the

932
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: team if he's doing this And again, something we said yesterday,

933
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: does does John Morant become worth the headache if this

934
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: continues here? So that's the perfect recipe for trade rumors,

935
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: and that's what we're gonna do here. We've picked a

936
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: couple that we saw yesterday going around. We're going to

937
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: dissect them, grade the trade, whether you like it for

938
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: the Grizzly side of things, for the team trying to

939
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: get him whatever, we'll talk it through. I want to

940
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 1: let her in know. Morant is owed forty two million

941
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: dollars next season, forty five million dollars for the twenty

942
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,720
Speaker 1: seven to twenty eight campaign. That's about twenty five percent

943
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 1: of the salary cap going forward, so actually pretty affordable

944
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 1: figure for a player of his caliber, at least, you know,

945
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: when we've seen him at his best. He's eligible for

946
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,760
Speaker 1: a massive contract extension at season's end, but it's unclear

947
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 1: if the Grizzlies are going to offer him one with

948
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 1: all this going on. Just so you know the numbers

949
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,720
Speaker 1: of what we're working with here, Okay, So grade that trade.

950
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw them at you guys, throw them at

951
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: everybody on YouTube and the podcast listeners. We'll talk them

952
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: out and maybe we'll come up with our favorite here.

953
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: So one you saw, I'm sure was a very simple

954
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: Ja Morant to the Atlanta Hawks for Trey Young. Eric

955
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: pinkus I saw a Bleacher report the one for one

956
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: star point guard for star point guard. Young is in

957
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: the final year of his contract unless he opts into

958
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: his forty nine million dollars for twenty six twenty seven.

959
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: So you probably would have to have the Grizzlies like

960
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: getting some assurances from Young about sticking around if they

961
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: were to give up Ja Morant. But both franchises would

962
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: stand under the luxury tax. Does this do anything for

963
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: you tasks from either side here? Trey Young for Ja Morant.

964
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 2: From the Grizzlies. Yeah, i'd graded an anus, But from

965
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 2: the Hawks perspective, it's a d okay. I think they've

966
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:58,280
Speaker 2: set themselves up so well for these next few years

967
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 2: to be able to go in different directions. They got

968
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 2: that great draft pick from the New Orleans Pelicans for

969
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 2: this coming season, and so they set themselves up well

970
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 2: in multiple ways. Let's say our young players are playing

971
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 2: well together and we get a number one draft pick

972
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 2: or you know, number one ish draft pick from the Pelicans.

973
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 2: We could build around that guy with the players that

974
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 2: we have, or those guys are playing well, and we

975
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 2: can turn into a bunch of tradable contracts and Dyce

976
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 2: and Daniel Zachary Resasche and you got very young, solid

977
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 2: players into a superstar. So they got that direction. But

978
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 2: if you bring in John ran, I think you're really

979
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 2: you could easily be putting this track into we gotta

980
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 2: slow this baby down and get off the road here,

981
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 2: I mean, we gotta off ramp. It doesn't look like

982
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 2: a solid direction with John Morant. What when they've set

983
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 2: themselves up so well to go in different directions? Now?

984
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,240
Speaker 2: Is it away from Trey At some point?

985
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 1: That's possible maybe, But I.

986
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 2: Think in this situation the Grizzlies are cashing in. I

987
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 2: think it's a fantastic trade to get the side. Okay,

988
00:45:58,680 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 2: what do you think, Tika.

989
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 5: I think both say no to this trade, but I

990
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 5: think Atlanta more so says no. For Memphis, it's the devil.

991
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 5: You know, they've had John Morant the entirety of his career.

992
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 5: He's beloved in Memphis, and like you're saying, Trey has

993
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 5: a player option for next season, he needs to be

994
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 5: paid immediately. Is that what the Grizzlies want to do?

995
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 5: Build around Trey Young and Jared Jackson junior. Does that

996
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 5: get you any closer in the Western Conference?

997
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 6: Maybe not.

998
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 5: Meanwhile, Atlanta is ready to go to a youth movement

999
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 5: if things go sour this season. You know, Trey is

1000
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 5: out for four weeks minimum. Right now, they're going to

1001
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 5: lose their pick to the San Antonio Spurs. But lucky

1002
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 5: for them, they got that Pelicans one coming in and

1003
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 5: they might get a franchise superstar and you can build

1004
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 5: around him immediately and have pieces that fit around him immediately,

1005
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 5: whoever that may be. So, I do think Atlanta says

1006
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 5: no because the trade contract is shorter. Trey is just

1007
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 5: like jaw here, he's the star, he's the one who

1008
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 5: really sells the tickets. So I think they would both

1009
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 5: want to keep their own guy.

1010
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, let's move on to John Morant to the

1011
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: Sacramento Kings. Okay for DeMar Derozen Malik Monk, and let's

1012
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: say some draft capital, maybe one first round pick. Sam

1013
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: Quinn at CBS he wrote the idea for Memphis in

1014
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: all likelihood would be to break up the Jahn Morant

1015
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:20,479
Speaker 1: contract into smaller components. So DeRozan nearly twenty five million

1016
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 1: dollars cap figure this season, but he's only guaranteed ten

1017
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,879
Speaker 1: million next season. Malik Monk slightly more reasonable figure. It's

1018
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: basically call it twenty million per year for him. For

1019
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 1: a couple here, the Grizzlies would hope to land some

1020
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: draft capital. Like I said, so the Kings have a

1021
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: twenty six protected first round pick. They have a twenty

1022
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: seven protected Spurs first round pick. Maybe there's something here.

1023
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: The comparison I saw was Dallas getting out of the

1024
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: Kristaps Porzingis market business in twenty twenty two. They moved

1025
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 1: KP to the Wizards for not draft capital really at all.

1026
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: But it was like Burton's and Dinwity. It was like

1027
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 1: get smaller contracts to then maybe be able to maneuver with.

1028
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: But we'll start with you on this one, Trey John

1029
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: Morant to the Kings for something along the lines or

1030
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 1: maybe other pieces of you.

1031
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 5: This is a d This is not a good trade, squad.

1032
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 5: No Sacramento would do this in a second. Okay, this

1033
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 5: would be a great trade for Sacramento to give up DeRozan,

1034
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 5: a guy who's not going to be a long term

1035
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 5: or there Malik Monk who was in trade rumors all season.

1036
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 5: If they only have to give up one first round pick,

1037
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 5: definitely do it. The Kings would do this. This is

1038
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 5: like an A plus trade for them. I think if

1039
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 5: they're able to pull it off, the Grizzlies would need

1040
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 5: to get both picks back from the Kings, their own

1041
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 5: twenty six and the twenty seven Spurs. Like you're saying,

1042
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 5: even though that one probably not going to be all

1043
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,240
Speaker 5: that good, imagine Victor Wembinama in another year. We shall

1044
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 5: see um. But I don't know. That's why I wouldn't

1045
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 5: do it. If you're the Grizzlies, there's no point in

1046
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 5: bringing in to rozen.

1047
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 2: I hear what you're saying. I think the Grizzlies have

1048
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 2: to act and make a deal as soon as possible

1049
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 2: because I think the likeness or the same deal and

1050
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 2: franchise look at Dallas and moving on from Kristaps porzingis

1051
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 2: is the Grizzlies making Aaron Jackson Jr. Somewhat happy here

1052
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 2: Because Jaron Jackson Junior has been dealing for multiple years

1053
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 2: with this franchise that's been going up and down. I

1054
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 2: think it is a little bit like the way they

1055
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 2: traded Luke at We're moving on and the Grizzlies I

1056
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 2: think have to for Jaron Jackson Junior's sake. So in

1057
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 2: this instance, is it the best deal to see Malik

1058
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 2: Monk come back as the primary part. No, it's not ideal,

1059
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 2: But if it is the best offer on the table,

1060
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 2: I think it is something that they have to pull

1061
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 2: the trigger on, along with the first round pick, just

1062
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 2: to make Jaron Jackson Junior somewhat happy.

1063
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,280
Speaker 6: They just signed to a huge extension though.

1064
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but will he be happy for I just

1065
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 2: mean keeping John Morant around ain't ain't the way to

1066
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 2: do it, That's all. I mean. It's more so than

1067
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 2: this King's offer. I don't know what the best offer

1068
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 2: on the table is. We're going through them now. I

1069
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 2: don't think the Hawks would trade Trey Young in any

1070
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 2: situation for John Morant. We're going to get through other names.

1071
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 2: But I think this literally could be the one, the

1072
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 2: best one on the table, as far as.

1073
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: You think this is the real list. Like Trey said that,

1074
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: the Kings would call to inquire about John Morant and

1075
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: this would be some sort of package they would offer.

1076
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: It is like getting it and if this is all

1077
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,439
Speaker 1: that Memphis gets a phone call, then maybe they would

1078
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: do it.

1079
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 2: But well, that's the thing. It's not just about Sacramento.

1080
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 2: It's about the other twenty nine teams or twenty eight teams.

1081
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 2: I guess offering deals to the Grizzlies, what do they offer?

1082
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 2: That's always the question. And I know it's not ideal

1083
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 2: to have Malik Monk as your primary guy. But Jared

1084
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 2: Jackson Junior again has been there for a long time.

1085
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 2: He has to make They have to make a move

1086
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 2: at some point. I know they've sort of built around

1087
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 2: Jared Jackson Junior, But how long can he deal?

1088
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 5: I just if the best deal that is offered to them,

1089
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 5: if the absolute peak of the packages coming back is

1090
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 5: DeRozan Monk in one first round pick. They shouldn't trade Jaw,

1091
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 5: which is why they probably won't trade him this season.

1092
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 2: I think they got to. I think they have to

1093
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 2: at some point. And even if it's that in comparison

1094
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 2: to that, Kris steps Porzing, his deal obviously wasn't a

1095
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 2: good one.

1096
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 1: And you say that because you don't see this ever

1097
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: really getting better.

1098
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 2: Is the whole point that sure feels that way.

1099
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could be right, John Morant to the Miami

1100
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: Heat for Tyler Hero who's also out injured. I mean,

1101
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 1: similar to obviously Trey Young and the Hawk's potential trade

1102
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,879
Speaker 1: and let's say an eight point four million dollar trade

1103
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: exception because they have that to play with. But really

1104
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: it's Jamrant for Tyler Hero again similar to Ja Morant

1105
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: for Trey Young. The Heat Trey are star hunters. They're

1106
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: always you know, interested at least. But you brought it

1107
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: up the other day, this would be ironic with how

1108
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: the Miami Heat are now playing. That doesn't seem the

1109
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 1: type of style that Jamarant really wants to play with

1110
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 1: what they're doing spamming the pick and roll. But what

1111
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: do you think about this potential trade idea. It's like

1112
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: a C minus.

1113
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, Tyler, Hero always hurt and he's like fringe all

1114
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 5: star at best. So getting no picks back in this

1115
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 5: and like the biggest roster building thing you're getting as

1116
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 5: a trade exception, this is not interesting to me at all.

1117
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 5: If I'm the Grizzlies, I'd be like, no picks, who

1118
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 5: are we the Bulls.

1119
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: Hero was extension eligible before the start of the season,

1120
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 1: starting after his thirty three million dollars for twenty six

1121
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 1: twenty seven, but he in the Heat didn't reach a

1122
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,280
Speaker 1: deal too. So this is a part of the equation here,

1123
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 1: whether the Heat and Hero or for the for the

1124
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 1: long run.

1125
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 2: But your thoughts, well, the Heat are cooking. It would

1126
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 2: be an odd move to bring in joa Morant into

1127
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 2: that locker room. I do think as much as jam

1128
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 2: Rant may be able to move on to another scenario

1129
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 2: where he is you know, a one a type of player,

1130
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 2: just just a new environment. And because as you said,

1131
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 2: pat Riley likes to pull the trigger on guys. We

1132
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:49,320
Speaker 2: mentioned Jimmy Butler's scenario earlier in the conversation with Philly,

1133
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 2: where he wanted out he got to Miami and things

1134
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:57,919
Speaker 2: were cooking, and obviously it went well. They went finals. Yeah,

1135
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 2: so yeah, it went extremely well. But they are cooking,

1136
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,919
Speaker 2: and we are only as we talk, two weeks into

1137
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 2: the season, so this may be a different conversation a

1138
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 2: month from now. If the Heat are not cooking, they

1139
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,959
Speaker 2: are literally going one through ten deep. But I don't

1140
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 2: see why the Heat would make this risk with a

1141
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 2: guy in Tyler Hero who played his peak last year

1142
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 2: and is at least part of the environment there, it's risky.

1143
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: I don't find it that much of a risk, to

1144
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: be honest. From the Heat side of things, I think

1145
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: this is something here. If they are like, you know,

1146
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 1: looking ahead that Tyler Hero is not part of their

1147
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,720
Speaker 1: long term plan, this is exactly the type of player

1148
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: that the Heat would bring into their organization, and you

1149
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: would watch John Morant would kick ass. I assume under

1150
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 1: the leadership and that sort of the Heat culture there.

1151
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 1: It is everybody have a drink. I think there's something here.

1152
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: If you're right, if they're like, this is a mirage

1153
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: the start of this season and the rest of the

1154
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: league will catch up to us or whatever figure us out.

1155
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 1: Maybe we're playing above our heads right now. I think

1156
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 1: that's a big part. Like you said, tasks they're doing

1157
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: right now, like we could talk about it for a second.

1158
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: Great game win, great win last night in La versus

1159
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 1: the Clippers where bam out of Bayo. I thought was awesome.

1160
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 6: That was a stretch.

1161
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: Defensively, offensively, you know, Wiggans hit big shots. I mean

1162
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: they are playing well. That was a really nice bounce

1163
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: back win for them. Why did Kui take the last shot?

1164
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 1: I know he just hit a game winner, but Harden

1165
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: was on fire.

1166
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 5: Yeah bomb, I mean what a one on a three

1167
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 5: pointers just standing there in the corner. Yeah, Kawhi took

1168
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 5: an impossible shot.

1169
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1170
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 5: I thought that was a bad loss for the Clippers,

1171
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:30,240
Speaker 5: especially Yeah, last.

1172
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 2: Couple of minutes. We're kind of ugly for the Clippers there.

1173
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: Except Harden was bailing them out. Yes, crazy shots.

1174
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, call it time out, Tyler. I mean QUI dribbled

1175
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 2: for I don't know, it felt like eight seconds that

1176
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 2: that could be your signal. Just call it time out

1177
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 2: to make a play. So yeah, the heater cooking. You

1178
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 2: feel that though the locker room will be this same

1179
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 2: thing that happened to Jimmy Butler, Like Jimmy Butler will

1180
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 2: walk into that or John Murrant will walk into there

1181
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 2: like Jimmy Butler did, and things are I don't know,

1182
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:00,320
Speaker 2: just smooth.

1183
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 1: I John Rance just pissed off with the organization, coaching staff, whatever. Yeah,

1184
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: you watch wherever he ends up, he'll be back to

1185
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: John Morant of two three years ago, superstar level gern

1186
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: that for a bit.

1187
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 5: He goes the Sacramento, he's probably not as enthused as

1188
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 5: if he goes.

1189
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,879
Speaker 1: To Miami Fair. But you know, these guys, they want

1190
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 1: to like stick it to the organization shoulder guy. Yeah

1191
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: that's my buoyant.

1192
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 6: So okay, but.

1193
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 5: Does he have the legs for it anymore? I don't know,

1194
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 5: but yeah, Jaw's still an upgrade over Tyler hero for me.

1195
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 1: Right, all right, how about John Morant to the Toronto

1196
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 1: Raptors tests are you interested? How about John Morant to

1197
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: the Raps for Emmanuel Quickly Brady Dick and draft capital

1198
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 1: here and the Raptors do have control of all their

1199
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: first round picks. They do have a pretty wide variety

1200
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 1: of players that they could put. I just want to

1201
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 1: quickly Dick and again a first round pick. It's got

1202
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: a nice little rhyme to it. That's why Quickly quickly

1203
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 1: Dick in the first round pick what do you what

1204
00:55:59,239 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 1: do you think about this?

1205
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 2: Well, I don't do it. If I'm the Reps, I

1206
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 2: think it's a c move. To me, it's a lateral move.

1207
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 2: Massieri moved on mainly because he kept that same team

1208
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 2: in that same scenario, the same roster for years. Bobby

1209
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 2: Wester has come in there to take over, I think,

1210
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 2: to go in a different direction. So now we're looking

1211
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 2: at a team with Morant, Ingram, Scottie Barnes and RJ. Barrett.

1212
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 2: Are they getting much better in that scenario? I highly

1213
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 2: doubt it. So it just feels like another move that

1214
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 2: Massiujeri could have made or would have made. It just

1215
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 2: doesn't feel like they're going in the right direction. Bobby

1216
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 2: Wester was literally come in to say, hey, we may

1217
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 2: tear this thing apart if it's not going well. Unfortunately,

1218
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 2: it's not going well. And I don't think John Morant

1219
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 2: moving to Toronto, although there are fewer guns there as well.

1220
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if it works out for him in

1221
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 2: that regard. But I will just say it seems too

1222
00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 2: lateral to me for the Raptors, and I'm great at

1223
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 2: the same for for the Grizzlies in a scenario, it

1224
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 2: feels like a ce return se move.

1225
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 5: What do you think Grizzlies say no Quickly contract. I

1226
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 5: don't think is going to be very easy to trade

1227
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,439
Speaker 5: thirty two and a half million dollars every season through

1228
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 5: twenty twenty nine.

1229
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 6: They're the same age.

1230
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 5: You would rather pay that money to John Morant, I

1231
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 5: think by far, especially if you're only given up Grady Dick,

1232
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 5: a guy who hasn't been able to establish himself in

1233
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 5: the rotation. And I guess it depends on how many

1234
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:27,479
Speaker 5: first round picks.

1235
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is what this would be. It feels like

1236
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 1: if they went all like they really wanted Ja Moran

1237
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: and they like gave up a lot of draft.

1238
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 5: Kp But I don't think it would have to be

1239
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 5: a lot of first round picks because you have to

1240
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:41,439
Speaker 5: attach them to get off of Quickly's contract. So maybe

1241
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,479
Speaker 5: it would be I don't know, Quickly's contract is bad.

1242
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 5: That's the problem with this trade. And I understand why

1243
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 5: you're trying to get it off the Raptors for Ja Moran.

1244
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 5: That would be a great deal for them.

1245
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: It would be Jammaran, although shooting would be a real

1246
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 1: issue on a Raptor squad.

1247
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 6: That's still though, I mean, what's the difference between that

1248
00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 6: and now?

1249
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean, yes, Barnes have shown some promise at

1250
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: least from three point lane.

1251
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1252
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, things aren't going well. It just seems like that

1253
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 2: this ain't a good direction either. That's all this John

1254
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 2: a little.

1255
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: Buzz to the Raptors, though, does it do some of

1256
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: these franchises?

1257
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 6: A big part of this Ranto sounds good.

1258
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: I'm rantomb Lobronto. If it was just quickly dicking a

1259
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: first round pick one, I would do this instantaneously if

1260
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 1: I'm a Raptor's front office employee. But it's gonna be

1261
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 1: would in theory be more draft capal, I do think,

1262
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 1: And then you get into like, oh, how much we

1263
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: giving up for that? Is he gonna be happy? Here?

1264
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: Are we gonna have spacing issues which we already have.

1265
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 2: There's parts of it I get, But this team has

1266
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 2: aspirations to do something, and I just don't know if

1267
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 2: John's doing that doesn't feel like.

1268
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: It final one. John Morant to the Minnesota Timberwolves four,

1269
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: Rudy Gobert and Rob Dylan. It's sort of difficult to

1270
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 1: construct a trade with the Minnesota Timberwolves. You almost have

1271
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 1: to throw a Randall or go Bear in there to

1272
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 1: like get to a Ja Morant trade, and then obviously

1273
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: Dillingham would be like the young piece that then you

1274
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: could see the Grizzlies as their point guard of the future.

1275
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: TK vibes on this one. Great.

1276
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 5: It would require the Timberwolves wanting to take a step

1277
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 5: back because they're backup centers behind Gobert are young guys

1278
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 5: like Nasrid is a cool sixth man of the Year,

1279
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 5: but if he has to come into the starting lineup,

1280
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 5: you're not playing any sort of defense. Joan Bearnjay looks

1281
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 5: like he might be good four years from them.

1282
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 6: Same with that other big dude. They got rock Go

1283
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 6: Rocko Zakarski.

1284
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 5: They got great names, but they're back up the centers,

1285
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 5: but not a lot of talent. I couldn't believe this

1286
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 5: that I heard it on the broadcast last night. Rob

1287
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 5: Dillingham hasn't taken a three pointer yet, it's played forty

1288
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 5: five minutes.

1289
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 6: He's the point guard.

1290
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Speaker 5: I actually think the Timberwolves would think about this, but

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00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 5: it's such a change to their identity. They're a defense

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01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 5: first team, and Ant is carrying us to wins when

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01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 5: he's healthy. It's been Randall in the meantime, so it

1294
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 5: would be a talent upgrade to me, but it would

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01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 5: be a completely completely different team. This is the sort

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Speaker 5: of thing I think happens more likely if the Timberwolves

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01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 5: were to get close in the Western Conference. I mean,

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01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 5: they're going to two straight conference finals, they're better in

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01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 5: the playoffs, they have a solution for at least one

1300
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 5: of the tough to beat teams in the West. But

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01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 5: they would need to strike out again and then be like,

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01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 5: all right, we got to change something up.

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01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 6: We keep losing the same way.

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Speaker 5: And if that happens, then maybe they're like, yeah, we're

1305
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 5: going offense mode. Aunt and John good luck stopping both

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Speaker 5: of them.

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01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Tim Connolly is a bold GM too.

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01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 1: I mean they went to a Western Conference finals and

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01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 1: then made a massive cat trade which shocked a lot

1310
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Speaker 1: of people, So this would be him like doubling down again.

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01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: I love the idea of Anthony Edwards and Jad McDaniel's

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01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 1: being able to cover for John Morant defensively, but yeah,

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01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: if Gobert goes out, then nas Reed's got to step

1314
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 1: in there. On one hand, good, he can space the

1315
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Speaker 1: floor but is he over taxed as a starter and

1316
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 1: then bearje and all this issues because Rudy, you know,

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01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 1: he's a part of the equation here.

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Speaker 2: He is a part of it. But what do you

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01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 2: think it's intriguing from the Minnesota side because Riegobert clearly

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01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 2: he is getting older and so moving on from his

1321
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 2: couple guaranteed years after this one, it sort of makes

1322
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 2: logical sense to bring in a guy under John Moraine

1323
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 2: who clearly would have to adhere to the locker room

1324
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:36,919
Speaker 2: that is run by Anthony Edwards, that's his So could

1325
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 2: that happen? There's a possibility along with you know, Jade

1326
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,479
Speaker 2: McDaniels as you mentioned there, just to have a little

1327
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 2: bit of a hierarchy. They're taking a risk getting Rob Dillingham,

1328
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 2: who's the second young second year player. I guess that's

1329
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 2: what they're getting, along with Rudy Goer's.

1330
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 1: Because the Wolves have basically no picks either, so unless

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01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 1: a third team is roped in.

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Speaker 2: Here, and it's truly it's truly risky for this common

1333
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 2: play to have. Yeah, nas Reed starting a ton and

1334
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 2: he's done it at times, but Joan Barring Jay way

1335
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 2: too young. He's a fantastic summer league player, but moving

1336
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 2: into an NBA playoffs, who are you counting on to

1337
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 2: be your center? It really would be so much on

1338
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 2: nas Reed's shoulders. So it does sort of emulate what

1339
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 2: they did with Karl Anthony Towns because he was guaranteed

1340
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 2: money for a long time and Ridy Goobert guaranteed for

1341
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 2: a couple more years as well. But the risk level

1342
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 2: is higher because you don't have Rudy Gobert anymore. Who's

1343
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 2: defending back there. Yeah, would be just an offense team.

1344
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 2: It would be strange.

1345
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:39,439
Speaker 6: Gobert's taking a little bit of a step back.

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01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 5: I wouldn't be surprised that the Timberwolves do want to

1347
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 5: trade him at some point in the last couple of

1348
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 5: years of his deal here, especially, like I'm saying, if

1349
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 5: they just feel stale. We've seen teams do that time

1350
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 5: and time again, where it's like we've got our core,

1351
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 5: this is what we're doing, and the Timberwolves are really

1352
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 5: locked into their core because Dillingham is like their big

1353
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 5: bet on the future. They traded what like a twenty

1354
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 5: thirty thirty one pick whatever to the Spurs. That's not

1355
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 5: looking like a great deal so far. They would like

1356
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 5: to have that pickback so they could make a swing

1357
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 5: on somebody else. But if they're feeling stale, maybe they

1358
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 5: roll the dice with jaw and.

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Speaker 6: Ant lead team.

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01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 5: That is not sounding like a serious locker room to me, though, no.

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Speaker 1: I know, it's sort of fascin on one hand, awesome

1362
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:21,919
Speaker 1: on the other hand, Oh my god, this is gonna

1363
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 1: be a wild ride.

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01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, but I think Anthony Edwards has

1365
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 2: grown into that kind of role. I think he's he

1366
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 2: can do that. It would be a little bit of

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01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 2: a right.

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01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 1: I do agree with that. He's the alpha still of

1369
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 1: those of that bunch.

1370
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, of that team that went to two straight conference finals,

1371
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 2: even though Kat left. But you are relying a lot

1372
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 2: defensively after Rudy Gobert leaves, even though Rudy is getting older.

1373
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 2: So it does logically you just started to think, Okay,

1374
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 2: here they'll come to pieces. We can start putting them

1375
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 2: together on the was it the peacock using the sand sandbox?

1376
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 6: The peacock sandbox?

1377
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:56,919
Speaker 1: Now, Tim Connolly's sitting in a sandbox right now, ya figure.

1378
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 2: I mean that's why they drafted you and Baron Jay

1379
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 2: to be the Rudy Gobert. He is the French guy

1380
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 2: to help him out. Now he isn't the French guy. Yeah,

1381
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 2: they gotta go French, and maybe Rudy Gobert can take

1382
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 2: him under his wing. But it's got to be fast.

1383
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 2: The guy's not even nineteen yet. But in some league

1384
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 2: it was awesome.

1385
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 1: They're completely changing the dynamic of their team. Here because

1386
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 1: Rudy is still good. We say he's getting up there,

1387
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 1: but he obviously has a role in this league and

1388
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 1: for this team. But sure, yeah, it's a hell of

1389
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 1: a roll of dice. And again, Tim Connelly has done

1390
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 1: it before. So if there's a GM out there who's

1391
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 1: willing to maybe try it again, maybe it's him.

1392
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 2: Maybe that was financial, no doubt about that. Yes, and

1393
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 2: Carl Anthony town has had more years than Rudy Gobert

1394
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 2: has on his contracts. It would just be be a

1395
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 2: bit of a shot to Anthony Edwards. We went to

1396
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 2: two straight conference finals, but we are changing that guy

1397
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 2: behind you. That'd be big.

1398
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. But also John Moran is better than Rudy Gobert. Now,

1399
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 1: maybe not in the makeup of this team and the

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01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 1: success of this team, that's fair, but he is even

1401
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 1: at the level he's playing at right.

1402
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 2: And I think I think he'd be okay with Anthony

1403
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 2: Edwards as his as his number one bud. It's risk,

1404
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 2: that's for sure.

1405
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 1: Okay. So those are five potential trade ideas, five teams

1406
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 1: that I threw out. You any other potential Ja Morant

1407
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 1: landing spots that maybe you were cooking in the trade machine.

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01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 5: I saw Eric Pinkus at Bleacher Report had a Son's

1409
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 5: trade involved Jalen Green, a twenty twenty seven first round

1410
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 5: draft pick and then a trade exception. I think the

1411
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 5: Sons would do that instantly. They would do it in

1412
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 5: a heartbeats. Yeah, John Morant, Booker.

1413
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 6: John Morant and Booker.

1414
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 5: And you know, if you're the Grizzlies, I'm not a

1415
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 5: big Jalen Green fan, but at least you're talking yourself

1416
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 5: into a young guy who's super talented and plays on

1417
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 5: the perimeter. So kind of one for one there. You're

1418
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 5: getting a pickback in return. Doesn't sound like a great

1419
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 5: return to me, though, I would be very happy to

1420
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 5: take any sort of first round pick the Suns are

1421
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 5: offering up.

1422
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair. And I think it was was it

1423
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 1: one of the Tims or was it Windhorse himself on

1424
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 1: the hoo collective saying that it's not going to be

1425
01:05:56,920 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 1: the most robust trade market for John Moran. And that's

1426
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 1: why I think we're in the right ballpark here with

1427
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 1: some of these, you know, potential trades packages like these

1428
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 1: are not wowing you, But that might be what it

1429
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 1: would be test total ballpark.

1430
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, who is the best player coming back to Memphis

1431
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 2: for him? I know, literally, it wasn't that long ago

1432
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 2: he was getting MVP votes. It wasn't that long ago.

1433
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 2: So is it comparable to Christaps porzingis moving on from

1434
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 2: Dallas and the package that they got back from Washington

1435
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 2: or is it better?

1436
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 1: I would think it would be a little bit better,

1437
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 1: a little bit but sort of in the ballpark.

1438
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Chris Stops was an injured player more so

1439
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 2: than John Morant, although Moran also injured at some point.

1440
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 2: So the Pelicans talk is fun to look at him

1441
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 2: besides Zion Williamson. But but, but, but I don't know

1442
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 2: if the Pelicans are willing to do that.

1443
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 5: Why would they not be. They've got no pick coin.

1444
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 5: That'd be like a way that they think they could

1445
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 5: save their season. I actually think it's super interesting, Like

1446
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 5: who are you training?

1447
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 1: Though?

1448
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 5: Like I don't think that the the Grizzlies would really

1449
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 5: want like Jordan Poole's contract, I doubt, but I mean

1450
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 5: it doesn't run any longer than John Morant's does. If

1451
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 5: they could get Trey Murphy, perhaps they do it, and

1452
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 5: one of the young guys, whether it be Derek Queen

1453
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 5: or Jeremiah Fears. Fears have established himself more early on here.

1454
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 5: But I mean the Pelicans are crazy, man. Yeah, while

1455
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 5: makes sense, It's like you're gonna lose a top three

1456
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 5: pick basically this season, right unless you trade for Jah

1457
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 5: Morant and then you're losing a top fifteen pick. That

1458
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 5: does seem better to me to have John Morant and

1459
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 5: you're not losing the number one pick.

1460
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1461
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 2: That's why the Pelicans and the Kings seemed to me

1462
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 2: to be the hottest teams to discuss this, because the

1463
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 2: Kings are they'very neutral, they ain't going anywhere whether or

1464
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 2: not they get John Morant or not. I just think

1465
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 2: the Pelicans, maybe I'm giving Joe Martin and Troy Weaver

1466
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 2: a little bit too much credit or too much of

1467
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 2: a guide for them after what they've done this past summer,

1468
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 2: that it has just been mistake after mistake after mistake

1469
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 2: and what it's materialized into right now, that they would

1470
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 2: not want to just run on that treadmill, because that's

1471
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 2: what it feels like with this team. It would be

1472
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 2: JOm Rant and a Zion who may be healthy or not.

1473
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:25,680
Speaker 2: It just doesn't feel like they're they ain't going anywhere

1474
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 2: in that instance, that they would at least want to

1475
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:29,759
Speaker 2: try and go in a different get off that treadmill.

1476
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:33,599
Speaker 2: Can I ride on the elliptical? Please try and do

1477
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:34,719
Speaker 2: something else?

1478
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:35,599
Speaker 6: It's Tucson.

1479
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's ride with Tucson. He's a bike man.

1480
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 1: All right. Well, let's hear from you guys out there YouTube,

1481
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 1: Land podcast Land, Let's hear your best Ja Morant trade packages.

1482
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:49,600
Speaker 1: What other teams could you see him maybe landing, and

1483
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 1: what would be good enough return for the Grizzlies to

1484
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 1: actually consider it. I'm sure we'll be talking a lot

1485
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 1: more about this, especially if John Rant's going to like

1486
01:08:57,439 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 1: talk to the to the press the way he did

1487
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 1: last night. That no, he does not seem happy at all.

1488
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:05,599
Speaker 1: It didn't seem to have let it go, that's for sure.

1489
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 1: All right, tonight's pick them game tasks. It's Tuesday night. Well,

1490
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 1: we tease it already. It's gonna be a good one.

1491
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. This guy looking decent. Otherwise, there's

1492
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:18,640
Speaker 2: six games. We got Yannis going to Toronto, have a

1493
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 2: su lacky for me. We got Magic Hawks. I'm going down,

1494
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 2: going down Forress tonight the game on nb C. But

1495
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 2: I picked Philadelphia Chicago because I was intrigued. These are

1496
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 2: two five one teams here leading the Eastern Conference. It

1497
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 2: was a tough pick Philadelphia going into Chicago. Philadelphia unbeaten

1498
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 2: on the road. How did that happen? In Chicago? Un

1499
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 2: beating at home? How did that happen?

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01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:45,640
Speaker 4: Uh?

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01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 2: Understandable. Trace taking the Bulls well skeets and I are

1502
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 2: taking the six Ers to win by two tough or yes,

1503
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:55,599
Speaker 2: the Bulls, excuse me, have to win by two points.

1504
01:09:55,720 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 1: Those favorites here at home. No surprise, Tea got back

1505
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,720
Speaker 1: your team. But you feel confident about tonight's game.

1506
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, they're playing at home. They look good.

1507
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:09,800
Speaker 5: They've been taken away three pointers unlike they did against

1508
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:12,680
Speaker 5: the Knicks. So definitely Philadelphia could get hot. If this

1509
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 5: was prime Joel Embiid, I would be feeling bad about

1510
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 5: this game because this guy dominated Chicago for like five

1511
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:19,639
Speaker 5: straight seasons.

1512
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 6: They didn't beat him for ever. But it's a new era.

1513
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:24,639
Speaker 5: Jared McCain is coming back, and I throw the Sixers

1514
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:25,680
Speaker 5: completely out of the road.

1515
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 1: Oh boy, okay, Yeah, Jared McCain back for the Sixers.

1516
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 1: Should be a good one. Philly Chicago and yeah, Tass

1517
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 1: and I have Philly got one point to play with.

1518
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:36,719
Speaker 1: But basically it's a pick him here. Whoever win's gonna

1519
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 1: win this one. I have the early one zero lead

1520
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 1: after my Pacers, my scrappy Pacers kept it close against

1521
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:45,600
Speaker 1: the Bucks, and I was one of those guys praying Giannis.

1522
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 2: Hit that shot and get it over.

1523
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 1: I needed no overtime.

1524
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 6: I was hoping for a miss.

1525
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you were hoping for a miss because you

1526
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 1: guys had the Bucks by I guess I had to

1527
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 1: win my seven. So you know, one of those classes

1528
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 1: get into overtime and the team goes on a run

1529
01:10:57,200 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 1: and you're good. But good job, Indiana a losing style,

1530
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 1: That's what I said.

1531
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:05,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, lines going to overtime never makes sense to me.

1532
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:08,800
Speaker 2: It's not logical. But I do think that six and

1533
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 2: a half point line going into Indiana was six and

1534
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 2: a half for a reason, because it should have been bigger.

1535
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 2: I say it was. It should have? Should it should have? Yeah,

1536
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 2: it's just like that the one last week? What was yours?

1537
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 2: That should have been?

1538
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 5: Uh?

1539
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a line that I was questioning and

1540
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:28,720
Speaker 1: I did get right.

1541
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it should that should have also been bigger.

1542
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, Isaiah Jackson.

1543
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 1: Wow, Well, what's the line on the Raptors today? What

1544
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 1: are the books favored by going into Toronto?

1545
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 2: I don't know Trey's looking. Let's say, let's say saying

1546
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 2: and a half.

1547
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet it's around five and a half. If

1548
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:49,679
Speaker 1: Joannis is playing, he's questionable every night, every.

1549
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 5: Night, back to back, Raptors favored by four and a half.

1550
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 5: What Oh, no, you have the same plan, then that's

1551
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 5: probably true. Yeah, there's no way the Raptors should be favored.

1552
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 1: No, oh okay, fascinating all right.

1553
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 5: We also talked yesterday about must win game for the Pelicans.

1554
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 6: They got the Hornets. Oh yeah, tonight, Hornets.

1555
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 5: Coming into the blender two and a half point favorite

1556
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:15,679
Speaker 5: the Pelicans and the over under is two thirty six point.

1557
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 1: We were wondering how high that was going to be.

1558
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:20,519
Speaker 6: So both teams scoring one to twenty or more is

1559
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 6: the over.

1560
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 1: Basically that could happen. It's in play that could definitely

1561
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 1: happen in.

1562
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:26,559
Speaker 6: No defense on those teams.

1563
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 1: All right.

1564
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 6: So for cal Brenner, this guy's a monster man. He's aumungous.

1565
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:35,680
Speaker 6: He's most like three shots all season or something like that.

1566
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:36,839
Speaker 2: Machine.

1567
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:43,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, it helps to be big, Kulkbrenner. Yeah, eighty one

1568
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 5: percent so far right around the rim, no doubt. Thanks

1569
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 5: to Kofe for coming on.

1570
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 1: That was a lot of fun again, make sure you

1571
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:53,799
Speaker 1: go give him a follow across all the social media channels.

1572
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:56,880
Speaker 1: He has a very fun like uh shorts guy when

1573
01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 1: it comes to like Instagram reels and stuff like that,

1574
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:01,639
Speaker 1: hilarious ones that go viral, So go check that out.

1575
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 1: Thanks to him. Thanks to you for joining us. We'll

1576
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 1: be back tomorrow Wednesday morning, ten am Eastern talking about

1577
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 1: tonight's games, talking about tasks down at the Fortress, taking

1578
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 1: in Magic Hawks. Yeah, and a whole lot more so

1579
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:16,599
Speaker 1: we will see you then. Until then, Clipper Brow, you.

1580
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 4: Heard it here first, have a great time, turn up,

1581
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:20,439
Speaker 4: love you guys awesome.

1582
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. And remember the Milwaukee Bucks could

1583
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 2: lose tonight. I'm already checking out their sched because they

1584
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 2: have some games where they don't perform.

1585
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 6: They lost to the Kings.

1586
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 2: They lost to the Sacramento Kings. That's why I thought

1587
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 2: they would demolish the pacers yesterday. That didn't happen. But

1588
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:40,759
Speaker 2: they they can loose.

1589
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 3: They can lose, that's right.

1590
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 1: Are the raptors as proud as the pacers? We'll find

1591
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 1: out tonight. Brace the Day, people,