Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 1: Dane's Dan Patrick Show come in, stay a while. Spent
Speaker 1: majority of the first hour fawning all over Steph Curry,
Speaker 1: and rightfully so. Drop forty nine last night as the
Speaker 1: Warriors beat the seventy six ers. Five three pointers, five
Speaker 1: three pointers, eight three pointers, ten three pointers, eleven three pointers,
Speaker 1: four three pointers, eleven three pointers, ten three pointers. That's
Speaker 1: what Steph Curry has done. It is last nine games
Speaker 1: and put up forty nine last night. I think we
Speaker 1: settled on a poll question. Of course, it's not an
Speaker 1: obvious poll question. McLevin. Would you give us the question
Speaker 1: and the results so far? What's the basic sports fact
Speaker 1: that you know least about? How many innings are in
Speaker 1: a baseball game? How many NFL games are there next year?
Speaker 1: How many teams make the NBA playoffs? And what is
Speaker 1: the super League? And what is the super league? Is
Speaker 1: winning the Super League? Continue used to have reverberations over
Speaker 1: the soccer world and really beyond, because if you missed
Speaker 1: the story twelve the world's top teams agreed to form
Speaker 1: their own group. It's thrown the European Union into disarray,
Speaker 1: as if the EU hasn't been thrown into disarray before.
Speaker 1: People have wondered if the same model could apply to
Speaker 1: other sports, and it's a reminder of how fragile the
Speaker 1: leagues are that we take for granted. There was a
Speaker 1: time in American sports when it wasn't so obvious. The
Speaker 1: NFL had to hold off the AFL, the NBA had
Speaker 1: to hold off the ABA. Baseball's never faced pressure from
Speaker 1: an outside league, but they have major friction between bigger
Speaker 1: and smaller markets. And the most obvious translation of the
Speaker 1: Super League to American sports would be college football, because
Speaker 1: you could easily see the top teams breaking off. And
Speaker 1: it might seem far fetched right now, but I am
Speaker 1: not so sure that a lot of soccer fans saw
Speaker 1: the Super League coming. Change is uncomfortable, feels like it's inevitable,
Speaker 1: especially when it's out of our control. An interesting time
Speaker 1: in soccer, and we'll see if it impacts other sports
Speaker 1: in the future. And you start to think about college football,
Speaker 1: and I've said before, why don't you just form your
Speaker 1: own league? Because the NCAA is not governing college football.
Speaker 1: You know, it's the Power five conferences, that are doing that.
Speaker 1: But if you take the top part of these conferences
Speaker 1: and form your own super conference in college football, it
Speaker 1: can happen. And the money is there. You don't share
Speaker 1: the money with other schools in the SEC or the ACC.
Speaker 1: But to get to that point where you say we're
Speaker 1: going to take twenty of the best teams, how do
Speaker 1: you decide on twenty of the best teams? Because if
Speaker 1: I look at best teams track record the last ten years,
Speaker 1: or do I look at revenue, because that's different. If
Speaker 1: I look at revenue, you're going to have Texas and
Speaker 1: Texas A and M revenue. Michigan's going to be in there.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be teams, schools that you go, well, they're
Speaker 1: not one of the top twenty teams. But if you
Speaker 1: have revenue and that's what you're trying to generate, then
Speaker 1: you're going to have schools that you probably thought would
Speaker 1: be on the outside looking in actually being in a
Speaker 1: little higher than you think. Yeah, well you need Michigan
Speaker 1: in there for a topat Ohio State scho Wow, No,
Speaker 1: but I was going to I hate to do this,
Speaker 1: but can you do a little list of I've already
Speaker 1: written three teams you just said Texas, Texas, A and
Speaker 1: m Michigan off the top of your head. Who are
Speaker 1: some of the other obvious ones, Well, Ohio State, Clemson, Alabama,
Speaker 1: There'll be some outliers there. If you just look at
Speaker 1: revenue producing football programs, I think you're going to be
Speaker 1: surprised at probably five schools that you would never think
Speaker 1: would be in the top twenty. But if you google that,
Speaker 1: like Oregon is close to that, USC, Notre Dame, they
Speaker 1: would be in there as well, certainly Notre Dame. But
Speaker 1: that's what you're looking at. Now. How do you go
Speaker 1: from we're on the outside, how do we get inside
Speaker 1: with the super teams, the super conferences? The top twenty
Speaker 1: in college football? Yeah, poll I had the top fifteen
Speaker 1: in revenue twenty twenty for college football Texas, Georgia, Michigan,
Speaker 1: Notre Dame, Ohio State, Penn State is sixth. Then you
Speaker 1: go Auburn, Oklahoma, Alabama, Nebraska, LSU. LSU's not till the
Speaker 1: eleventh spot. Yeah, and you got Tennessee, which doesn't do
Speaker 1: a lot on the field, but still makes a lot
Speaker 1: of dough. And that's the tricky part, because these aren't
Speaker 1: the best programs Now, there are great teams in there,
Speaker 1: but Tennessee you would never put them in there. But
Speaker 1: if you're producing revenue, like Florida State would probably be
Speaker 1: in there, close to being in there. Okay, USC has
Speaker 1: not been great in the last decade, but it's still brand.
Speaker 1: Michigan has not been great, but it's a brand, And
Speaker 1: I think that's the tricky part with all of this.
Speaker 1: Do I think it could happen? I do. The question
Speaker 1: is how how am I differentiating between those who are
Speaker 1: going to be in the top twenty because they produced
Speaker 1: the most money and who has earned their way into
Speaker 1: the top twenty because they're actually a great football program. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a club, but college football doesn't really have Cinderella's
Speaker 1: who win the title, so you could really you don't
Speaker 1: really need more than the top twenty to term. But
Speaker 1: I don't want Tennessee in there just because they produce
Speaker 1: you more money than other programs, right, But you know,
Speaker 1: you could take a team that has had good years,
Speaker 1: they're not going to win the title like um, I
Speaker 1: don't know, All miss for example, or somebody. They're not
Speaker 1: real title contenders. As if you're looking at it from
Speaker 1: a competitive standpoint, well, you had Leicester City, which is
Speaker 1: one of the biggest upsets in the history of sports
Speaker 1: as far as the ability to be able to play
Speaker 1: and win a championship, but they qualified to give them
Speaker 1: a chance with UEFA. Yeah pull, yeah, it's a great example.
Speaker 1: Lesser comes out of nowhere. But in this new model,
Speaker 1: by winning the Premier League, they wouldn't be automatically vaulted
Speaker 1: into this super League. You know, there's no it appears
Speaker 1: at this way, no allegation. I guess you could compare
Speaker 1: it to the NBA. What if there was a World
Speaker 1: Basketball League that was where all the money was in
Speaker 1: China and Europe and everything that was in place, and
Speaker 1: they decided to take two teams from America and it
Speaker 1: was the Lakers, and because of money, they took the
Speaker 1: Knicks or the Nets, who are Nets have no history,
Speaker 1: but they're good now. The Knicks have financial history. And
Speaker 1: those teams would now be playing on this world stage
Speaker 1: and when they come back home to play a Wednesday
Speaker 1: night game against Phoenix, they would wrest their stars. And
Speaker 1: that's the fear in the Premier League is that when
Speaker 1: Manchester United goes to play Real Madrid on a Wednesday,
Speaker 1: then on Saturday, when they play a league game and home,
Speaker 1: they're going to wrest their stars because the money League
Speaker 1: is the Wednesday League. Also, here's another topic to keep
Speaker 1: an eye on, the number of American owners who were
Speaker 1: involved in or could be involved in the Super League.
Speaker 1: You're going to get pressure from owners who live in
Speaker 1: Europe or live in Italy or live in Spain. The
Speaker 1: American owners aren't going to face that kind of pressure.
Speaker 1: If you know the Glazers John Henry with Liverpool, you
Speaker 1: know they're not there. And I wonder about that that
Speaker 1: the American owners, you know, how sympathetic are they to
Speaker 1: the soccer fans? And the loyalty is what you want.
Speaker 1: If you're a soccer fan, You're like, where's the loyalty here? Yeah? See.
Speaker 1: And it's interesting because if you look at a list
Speaker 1: of the most valuable soccer teams in the world, the
Speaker 1: guess which the top fifteen are from the Premier League
Speaker 1: Super League? No oh, no, it's not from the Premier
Speaker 1: League only it's it's Barcelona, Real, Madrid, Bayern Munich who
Speaker 1: are expected to join it right, Manchester United, Liverpool, Manchester City,
Speaker 1: Chelsea Arsenal PSG who's expected to join it. Tottenham, ve A,
Speaker 1: Burtish Adortman, who's expected, Athletico Madrid, Intermo and then Everton
Speaker 1: is the fifteen. I mean that's that's almost that's basically
Speaker 1: every team minus Acy Milan. So this is just money,
Speaker 1: what's all this is? Yeah, I'm glove. I think Stan
Speaker 1: Cronkie is one of those the guy who's screwed over
Speaker 1: Saint Louis. He doesn't care about fans in America, let alone.
Speaker 1: We'll talk to Rebecca Lowe on loan from NBC Sports
Speaker 1: Chief of course, the host of the Premier League on
Speaker 1: NBC Sports. She'll join us coming up Age seven seven
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Speaker 1: streaming the entire series for free. Alex Smith announced his
Speaker 1: retirement at the age of thirty six, and it's not
Speaker 1: a surprise. And you know, I always thought that he
Speaker 1: could have rejoined Urban Meyer on the Jacksonville team and
Speaker 1: been a backup and been sort of a mentor to
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. I guess that he did consider that if
Speaker 1: he was going to play football again this year, he
Speaker 1: was going to join Jacksonville and do exactly that. But
Speaker 1: I think he probably looked around and said, I made
Speaker 1: it through fourteen years. I made it through these surgeries.
Speaker 1: I was with the Niners, the Chiefs Washington. He made
Speaker 1: six starts last season. Had one of the worst leg
Speaker 1: injuries in the history of the sport, and that's saying
Speaker 1: a whole lot. Had a bad infection so bad it
Speaker 1: required seventeen follow up surgeries, and everybody assumed his playing
Speaker 1: days were over then. But he worked his way back,
Speaker 1: was able to play, but ultimately decided that the risk
Speaker 1: wasn't worth it at age thirty six, he has young children.
Speaker 1: It's easy to understand considering where he came from with
Speaker 1: this injury. There was a point where Smith thought he
Speaker 1: might lose his leg. We tend to judge players on
Speaker 1: pretty narrow parameters. For Smith, his play and his comeback
Speaker 1: or intertwined and add up to a notable NFL legacy,
Speaker 1: but retiring at the age of thirty six. We spend
Speaker 1: a little time talking about the draft, and it's information,
Speaker 1: but it's a lot of misinformation, and some of it
Speaker 1: is guided by teams that they want you to think
Speaker 1: a certain way. They'll give information to a reporter, whether
Speaker 1: reporter knows it or not. And I've been used before,
Speaker 1: but you know local reporters, somebody says something, then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden you start to run with it, you know,
Speaker 1: Dallas and Steven Jones, Jerry's son saying, hey, get a
Speaker 1: lot of calls for the tenth pick. Okay, I'm sure
Speaker 1: the Falcons are getting a lot of calls for the
Speaker 1: fourth pick, but they haven't announced that. Now the Bengals
Speaker 1: at five, I'm sure they're getting calls for that as well.
Speaker 1: It feels like if you announce it, either you don't
Speaker 1: get calls or you would like to get some calls.
Speaker 1: That's the feeling I have. But this is what's going
Speaker 1: to happen now. For the next seven, eight, nine days.
Speaker 1: You're going to get a lot of information, and a
Speaker 1: lot of it is going to be misinformation. Who wants what, when?
Speaker 1: How going up? Moving down? And we're going to look
Speaker 1: back on this draft as we do every draft, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna go what was that team thinking? The Packers
Speaker 1: with Jordan Love, what were they thinking? Because they weren't thinking,
Speaker 1: not correctly in my opinion. And you know, then you
Speaker 1: had this, well, they motivated Aaron Rodgers, All right, well,
Speaker 1: then take another quarterback this year, like you want to
Speaker 1: get him motivated again, take another quarterback like that's silly.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has a chip on his shoulder. He's had
Speaker 1: that since he stepped into the league. It's not like, hey,
Speaker 1: I won the MVP, I'm engaged, I'm happier than ever
Speaker 1: I might host Jeopardy. I'm going to remove the chip
Speaker 1: on my shoulder. It just doesn't happen that way. Tom
Speaker 1: Brady is not removing the chip on his shoulder. And
Speaker 1: you would think after a while, you'd go, come on, tell,
Speaker 1: let's let's stop with that. You know that the chip
Speaker 1: on the shoulder thing. I mean, let's go, let's let's
Speaker 1: lose it. But the Packers took Jordan Love. And the
Speaker 1: only way that you solve this riddle is either you
Speaker 1: trade Jordan Love or you let Aaron Rodgers go after
Speaker 1: this season. And it feels like at least what I
Speaker 1: was told, and this was probably six weeks ago. Five
Speaker 1: weeks ago, I said it on the show that a
Speaker 1: source said they would be shocked if Aaron Rodgers was
Speaker 1: there next season and then you had all of this
Speaker 1: fall out there, and now you know what's going on.
Speaker 1: Why didn't they renegotiate his contracts so they could have
Speaker 1: signed other player? Like there's there's a lot of drama
Speaker 1: going on behind the scenes. Remember Russell Wilson, Oh, he's
Speaker 1: gonna be traded. He it's inevitable. No, he's going to
Speaker 1: the Bears. He's not good. That's right, He's not going anywhere.
Speaker 1: There are times when you just want to get somebody's
Speaker 1: attention and you want to shake it up, and that's
Speaker 1: what happened with Russell Wilson. He just wanted to let
Speaker 1: his girlfriend know, Hey, I can leave you. I'm not happy.
Speaker 1: I need some attention here. And then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: Seattle's like, hey, we're gonna bring in some linemen and
Speaker 1: some skill position player. We're gonna keep some of those
Speaker 1: players that we're gonna resign them. We want you back. Russ. Well,
Speaker 1: that went away. Remember how big that was. Well, Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers is there and it stayed there and it didn't disappear.
Speaker 1: I think we covered it over a little bit. I
Speaker 1: think it was like you know, let's throw a couple
Speaker 1: of blankets on here, and then you realize you take
Speaker 1: the blankets back, it's still there. And I think it's
Speaker 1: going to be there, and I think that that's something
Speaker 1: to keep an eye on. So we'll stay with that
Speaker 1: pole question. Is that right? McLevin? Yeah, you know there
Speaker 1: was a bate debate. There were several debates we weren't
Speaker 1: part of last week, which really annoyed me. There was
Speaker 1: one I just wanted to ask you about it. I'm
Speaker 1: throwing it out of nowhere, but there was a tweet
Speaker 1: from Jeremy Shaps saying you shouldn't take a quarterback because
Speaker 1: most of them miss in the draft. But most of
Speaker 1: every position miss in the draft. Where we're talking about
Speaker 1: you just mentioned that, like you're gonna look back on
Speaker 1: teams missing, Like there's just no what's a safe position
Speaker 1: to draft anymore? Quarterbacks? It's kind of like it's a crapshoot.
Speaker 1: In the top ten wide receivers are crapshoot. Who's not
Speaker 1: a crapshoot? Everyone is? Well. I think that if you
Speaker 1: have a lineman and he doesn't work out of a position,
Speaker 1: I can hide him a little bit, and I can
Speaker 1: also create a system where the other lineman might be
Speaker 1: able to hide his inequities, and Joe Thomas said that,
Speaker 1: you know the Cleveland Brown's future Hall of Famer. Jeremy
Speaker 1: Shapp of The Mother's Ship tweeted to reiterate forty four
Speaker 1: quarterbacks have gone first, second, or third overall in the
Speaker 1: last fifty NFL drafts. Exactly two Aikman and Peyton have
Speaker 1: won Super Bowls starting for the teams that drafted them.
Speaker 1: That makes selecting quarterbacks up high exceptionally risky. Okay, but
Speaker 1: you can take a risk now and it doesn't crush
Speaker 1: you financially, because it used to be when you took
Speaker 1: a quarterback first or second Sam Bradford days JaMarcus Russell,
Speaker 1: you know it was going to bankrupt you for a
Speaker 1: couple of years. Now it feels like that's a financial
Speaker 1: benefit because the Jets are going to happen. They had
Speaker 1: a perfectly serviceable quarterback in Sam Darnold, and maybe they
Speaker 1: could build around him. But now you take Zach Wilson
Speaker 1: out of BYU and you hit the reset button when
Speaker 1: it comes to his salary and what you can do
Speaker 1: with that salary with a rookie quarterback contract. Yeah, McLevin.
Speaker 1: But it's a funny we talk about the quarterbacks every position,
Speaker 1: like we it's a redraft to twenty seventeen, Like the
Speaker 1: Bengals took John Ross at number nine. The fact that
Speaker 1: he's not a quarterback, they get a pass on it.
Speaker 1: But if they take it a quarterback there and he failed,
Speaker 1: we talked about it for a decade. Yes, yeah, there
Speaker 1: are guys who are bus, but we don't refer to
Speaker 1: them as bus. It's interesting how we pick and choose
Speaker 1: and say, oh, what were they thinking? That's a terrible
Speaker 1: draft pick. I mean, these all of these sports are
Speaker 1: littered with bad draft picks, right, Like you just go,
Speaker 1: what are you thinking? And that's what I want to know.
Speaker 1: That's the meeting I would love to be in. The
Speaker 1: reality show would be after the draft and you've spent
Speaker 1: a couple of years with a player and you bring
Speaker 1: in that scout and you say, what were you thinking? Crazy? Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 1: You look at the Tennessee Titans last year. They took
Speaker 1: Isaiah Wilson, the offensive tech law to Georgia. He's out
Speaker 1: of football. Yeah, imagine if a quarterback was out of
Speaker 1: football in a calendar year yeah. I mean even Manzel
Speaker 1: made it to year two. Yeah, nofense. Well he was
Speaker 1: a quarterback. That's why he made it the year two.
Speaker 1: Like they didn't want to admit that they made a mistake. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm the club. We still talk about Christian Ponder that
Speaker 1: draft miss. I think it was the twelfth pick by
Speaker 1: the Vikings at eight years later, I hear his name
Speaker 1: all the time in draft coverage. Yeah, but it wasn't
Speaker 1: his fault that he got taken up there. He wasn't.
Speaker 1: He wasn't good enough to be taken up there. Right,
Speaker 1: But they're probably if you look at the last ten,
Speaker 1: number twelve picks, probably eight of them were bust. But
Speaker 1: we only be is there a quarterback? Like now, I
Speaker 1: know that I know, but the sport is predicated on
Speaker 1: having a great quarterback. You're all, everybody's looking for a quarterback,
Speaker 1: everyone and so when you find it, no matter where
Speaker 1: you find it, then you tell people, you trumpet that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys weren't taking Dak Prescott, they were taking Connor
Speaker 1: Cook out of Michigan State. And then the Raiders saved
Speaker 1: the day and came in and took Connor Cook. And
Speaker 1: Cowboys aren't geniuses, they were like, we want Connor Cook,
Speaker 1: he's not there, all right, Well we'll take das Dak Prescott.
Speaker 1: He's a leader. Yes. I wish there was a way
Speaker 1: to figure out which quarterbacks were busts and which teams
Speaker 1: busted their quarterback, you know, because like there has to
Speaker 1: be some kind of metric or stat that, like, no,
Speaker 1: Sam Donald is actually awesome. It's the Jets who suck.
Speaker 1: They're the bust so bust or busted right bust or
Speaker 1: where they busted? Bust or busted? Yes, David Carr, I
Speaker 1: guess would you immediately come to mind as one of
Speaker 1: them he got busted? Yes, the Texans busted him, yes,
Speaker 1: mc so well, Sam Darnold and Caroline wad be a
Speaker 1: referendum on that. It's a great experiment for who was
Speaker 1: at him or the team. So it's like Ryan Tannehill
Speaker 1: with the Dolphins and then going to the Titans. Yeah
Speaker 1: what taman Hill's a weird case though, is he really that?
Speaker 1: It's it's so hard to tell. All he does his
Speaker 1: head it off to Derrick Henry, right, he either has
Speaker 1: to turn to the left or the right and hand
Speaker 1: it to the bulldozer. Well, you got to remember to
Speaker 1: turn to the laughter, turn to the right. True, yes, hunting,
Speaker 1: it's a very valid point. Thank you. Not as easy
Speaker 1: as you think. Uh, Skip in Texas. Then we'll take
Speaker 1: a break, high, Skip. What's on your mind today? Hey Skip? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just wanted to call about mclovin. Only he could
Speaker 1: find a way to diminish what is Steph Curry's doing.
Speaker 1: The guy is just unbelievable. Over the last two weeks.
Speaker 1: You gave the stat about twenty one ten point games
Speaker 1: and the next best is five and Lillard and hard
Speaker 1: to have three. So it's not the defenses. And if
Speaker 1: mclovin is trying to just make every fan base Matt
Speaker 1: at him, he's doing well and I think we need
Speaker 1: to rename him. Mc haydon Oh okay, then well, thank you,
Speaker 1: Skip mcayton. You are a buzz kill though, m loving. Oh,
Speaker 1: I know I've been on a real role. I know.
Speaker 1: Why why are you skewing negative? I think it's being
Speaker 1: a Philadelphia fan and all our teams are not winning.
Speaker 1: I mean they're winning, but you know they're act. I
Speaker 1: think that's the Philadelphia in me coming out. You admit
Speaker 1: Philadelphia fans are a cidical group. Oh, that's a tough group.
Speaker 1: But I don't know how you can embrace what Steph
Speaker 1: Curry is. I love Steph Curry, but I am a
Speaker 1: system guy and I have to I have to stick
Speaker 1: to my system guns at all costs. What other person
Speaker 1: in a system is doing what Steph Curry's done, Dame Lillard,
Speaker 1: I've thrown darts here, Trey Young, Okay, here you go.
Speaker 1: Steph Curry has more games with forty points and ten
Speaker 1: three pointers in the last eight days. In the last
Speaker 1: eight days than any other NBA player has in their
Speaker 1: entire career. Steph Curry has four in the last five games,
Speaker 1: six this season, seventeen overall. Next on the list is
Speaker 1: James Harden, Damian Lillard, Clay Thompson. Stat of your day,
Speaker 1: stat of the day? What are you doing? But does
Speaker 1: he play any defense? Dan? I want to know that.
Speaker 1: That's what I was waiting for. That's what I was
Speaker 1: waiting for. Yeah, but does he play deep? Remember when
Speaker 1: he was coming in off Davidson, It's like, Oh, can
Speaker 1: he be a point guard? Does he play any defense?
Speaker 1: He's gonna get beat up. Nobody says that stuff anymore.
Speaker 1: Last time I look, Luca dunchit doesn't play any defense either.
Speaker 1: Larry Bird didn't play any defense, like silly when you
Speaker 1: get that two way player. Hey, that's rare, but nobody
Speaker 1: says Steph Curry. He can't play defense. Okay, he can't.
Speaker 1: Can you play defense on him? Let me take a break,
Speaker 1: we'll talk super League, the future of the sport. Rebecca
Speaker 1: Lowe will join us. Coming up next twenty three after
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Speaker 1: up the Super League. They said, who do you want
Speaker 1: to have on. I said, well, let's get Messy and
Speaker 1: then they said we can't get Messy. I said, what
Speaker 1: about Ronaldo. They said we can't get Ronaldo. I said, well,
Speaker 1: then get Rebecca Low. He said, we'll reach out. Rebecca Lo,
Speaker 1: the presenter of NBC Sport Group's Premier League coverage, pre
Speaker 1: and post match the Premier League Live. They have a
Speaker 1: match today at two eastern. You have Chelsea and Brighton
Speaker 1: coming up at two eastern. Good morning, Rebecca, how are
Speaker 1: you down? Patrick lovely to see you. I will come
Speaker 1: third behind Messi and Christiano Ronaldo any day of the
Speaker 1: week now. I would pass on Messi because I don't
Speaker 1: think he's a great interview. So you're second on the
Speaker 1: list behind Ronaldo. Appreciate, Okay, I'll go above Messi. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: Let's say I'm a child and you're going to explain
Speaker 1: the Super League to me. How would you do it? Oh,
Speaker 1: my goodness, what a question. Okay, I would explain that
Speaker 1: Currently in the Premier League there are twenty teams and
Speaker 1: they always have been since it was formed in the
Speaker 1: early nineties. Six of those teams who have self branded
Speaker 1: themselves the Big Six. So we're talking Manchester City, Manchester United,
Speaker 1: and Liverpool, Arsenal, Tottenham and Chelsea. And yes, they are
Speaker 1: six very big clubs and they tend to do better
Speaker 1: than any other club in the Premier League. Those Big
Speaker 1: Six have gotten together rather secretly, it has to be said,
Speaker 1: with some other very big clubs across Europe. We're talking
Speaker 1: ac Milan, Juventus in Italy, Inter Milan, Barcelona, Real Madrid
Speaker 1: in Spain and there will be. They are saying they
Speaker 1: have signed a contract to create their own midweek European
Speaker 1: Super League ESL is what they're calling themselves, which will
Speaker 1: take place. They wanted to start as soon as possible
Speaker 1: in August and it will take place weeks throughout the season,
Speaker 1: but it will let those clubs still play in their
Speaker 1: domestic leagues in the UK, or in France, or in
Speaker 1: Italy or in Spain. The problem with the situation is
Speaker 1: that this is a ring fence league. This is, for
Speaker 1: want of a better word, an Americanized league. So once
Speaker 1: you're in, you're in. You're never going to get out,
Speaker 1: no matter if you become rubbish overnight. You're in, you're in.
Speaker 1: You can only go into it the provider that you
Speaker 1: have an amazing one season in your league, but then
Speaker 1: you might have to lose it again. You might have
Speaker 1: to go out again. The ones that found and actually
Speaker 1: have created this league can never fall out of it,
Speaker 1: which means they will get very very rich. JP Morgan
Speaker 1: is backing this league. As things stand, they are due
Speaker 1: for a round over four billion pounds to share between them.
Speaker 1: So when they get that rich and they go back
Speaker 1: to their domestic league, the gap between the likes of
Speaker 1: United and City in Chelsea and Liverpool and then the
Speaker 1: likes of Burnleygue Crystal Pie in Southampton will be bigger
Speaker 1: than ever before, which will mean ultimately competition disappears out
Speaker 1: of the Premier League and as Pep Guardiola, the Manchester
Speaker 1: City manager, said this morning it is not sought if
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if you lose, and if these teams
Speaker 1: lose in this European super League, it doesn't matter. There's
Speaker 1: no relegation. They stay forever. So there is a lot
Speaker 1: of controversy around this, but that is it, in a nutshell,
Speaker 1: a breakaway. Controversially, when did this start? When did they
Speaker 1: start in forming this? Well, Dan, I've got to tell you,
Speaker 1: I remember being a child in the UK. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, not that long ago, but back in the
Speaker 1: late eighties and people were talking about a super league,
Speaker 1: a European super League. I mean there was even talked
Speaker 1: about it in nineteen sixty four in some of the
Speaker 1: newspapers in England. So this has been rumbling for decades.
Speaker 1: But really we don't know the full disclosure of how
Speaker 1: this all took place because it happened so quickly. It
Speaker 1: was announced on Sunday night, out of the blue, very
Speaker 1: late English time, about eleven pm in England. It shocked
Speaker 1: everybody how quickly it's come out. So this has obviously
Speaker 1: been in the works for quite some time. How is
Speaker 1: this prevented. How do they combat this well? At the moment,
Speaker 1: the backlash. If anyone listening and watching this has been
Speaker 1: on Twitter recently, I'm sure they've seen it. James Corden
Speaker 1: even talked about it last night on his Late Late show.
Speaker 1: The backlash is overwhelming. It's the biggest story I've ever
Speaker 1: worked on in nearly twenty years of being in this industry.
Speaker 1: It's the biggest backlash I've ever seen. So how does
Speaker 1: it get combat in? Well? Rumors today that Chelsea and
Speaker 1: Manchester City are wobbling. Some of the top football journalists
Speaker 1: in the UK are saying those two clubs did not
Speaker 1: realize the backlash would be so big. They're wobbling. So
Speaker 1: one or two of the clubs pulls out. It will
Speaker 1: probably promble money obviously is a huge thing. JP Morgan.
Speaker 1: Are they okay with his bad pr If they say
Speaker 1: on board that's good for the Super League? If they
Speaker 1: decide actually don't really want our name associated with something
Speaker 1: which is getting so much criticism, that's a problem. And
Speaker 1: then you've got the fans and down the fans. I've
Speaker 1: heard fans over the last twenty four hours on shows
Speaker 1: like yours, but in England saying I've been in Manchester
Speaker 1: United as a bold him forty years. Here's my season ticket.
Speaker 1: I'm done with my club and I'm not talking one fan.
Speaker 1: I'm talking fantains. And only this morning the grandson of
Speaker 1: Bill Shankly, the great Liverpool manager, the man that really
Speaker 1: is in every single sinew of that club. The grandson
Speaker 1: of Bill Shankly has told Liverpool Football Club removed the
Speaker 1: statue of my grandfather from outside anfield. So this ground swell,
Speaker 1: plus the players have come out and say they don't
Speaker 1: want it, a lot of them have, and managers like Guardiola.
Speaker 1: It's a huge pushback. So I suppose somebody has to crumb,
Speaker 1: but at some point under this pressure or with standlet
Speaker 1: and it's up to these big clubs whether or not
Speaker 1: these owners really want to go forward with it. I
Speaker 1: was also wondering about the role that the American owners
Speaker 1: are going to play in this, because they don't live there,
Speaker 1: and you know you're going to have man United in
Speaker 1: Liverpool and the impact that they could have removed from this.
Speaker 1: The role that loyalty is going to play in all
Speaker 1: of this is why the culture is very, very different
Speaker 1: down You and I've talked about this many times when
Speaker 1: we've talked about relegation and the difference between America and
Speaker 1: the UK, and I think that's something that really has
Speaker 1: to be understood about English football. We're talking about institutions
Speaker 1: like United, like Liverpool, John Henry, the Glazer family, San
Speaker 1: Cronkier Arsenal. These clubs were established over one hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty years ago and by local people for local towns
Speaker 1: and for cities, to keep the community close and to
Speaker 1: do great things like we've seen throughout the pandemic in
Speaker 1: the community. And I think over in this country here
Speaker 1: in the United States, there perhaps quite isn't that link
Speaker 1: between huge clubs and their local communities. They haven't been
Speaker 1: around as long. They were created by local men, working classmen,
Speaker 1: for working class fans. So the loyalty that seeps through
Speaker 1: English football is incompar really to anything over here. So
Speaker 1: when you look at it from the owner's point of view,
Speaker 1: from the American owners point of view, I can see
Speaker 1: that it's difficult to understand. They don't understand why anybody
Speaker 1: would have a relegation, why would anybody threaten a club's future.
Speaker 1: But that's all part of what makes English football so
Speaker 1: beautiful because it's competitive, it's sporting merits, it's how good
Speaker 1: are you on the day and how good can you be?
Speaker 1: Can you really put off this amazing result against a
Speaker 1: huge team and we see all the time and that's
Speaker 1: what makes the Premier League, in my view of many others,
Speaker 1: the greatest league in the world in any sports. So
Speaker 1: I think loyalty, they may be coming up against a
Speaker 1: bit of a surprise with this backlash, because the loyalty
Speaker 1: is a huge part of this game. And I think
Speaker 1: also we have to look at ourselves as well down
Speaker 1: because fifteen years ago these clubs were owned by fans
Speaker 1: and by local businessmen. Well they've sold out. They did
Speaker 1: sell out to American owners, to Russian owners like Roman
Speaker 1: Abramovitch Chelsea and now ten fifteen years old, we're seeing
Speaker 1: that maybe that was the reason why these business owners
Speaker 1: wanted to buy these clubs and maybe turn them into
Speaker 1: these European superpowers. So you know, a lot of things
Speaker 1: have gone wrong over the years and a lot of
Speaker 1: people are now looking at themselves. So I think loyalty
Speaker 1: and football people laugh, there isn't always a lot of it,
Speaker 1: but my goodness, between fan and club dan, it's tribal
Speaker 1: and it's a religion. I haven't heard you this passionate
Speaker 1: about I know you love your sport, but you're worried
Speaker 1: about your sport. I'm concerned. I'm concerned very much. So.
Speaker 1: I feel that the pyramid of English football in the
Speaker 1: UK again something that I wouldn't expect anyone in the
Speaker 1: States to understand. But it's not just the Premier League, Dan,
Speaker 1: I think I've told you this before. There are four
Speaker 1: or five there are five divisions underneath that, and they're
Speaker 1: all professional and these are professional players. Now, the money
Speaker 1: from the Premier League trickles Dan to all of these
Speaker 1: clubs that make up the local towns and villages in
Speaker 1: the UK. And the worried Dan is this that if
Speaker 1: the six teams from the Premier League go into the
Speaker 1: European Super League and becomes so rich, the dream is
Speaker 1: over in the Premier League because the Premier League becomes
Speaker 1: totally non competitive because these six will have so much
Speaker 1: money that nobody could ever compete. And then they'll have
Speaker 1: fourteen clubs in the Premier League trying to get into
Speaker 1: a Champions League which won't have any champions in it,
Speaker 1: which means you can finish eighth in the Premier League
Speaker 1: and get into the Champions League because these other six
Speaker 1: don't want any part of the Champions League, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, the Premier League becomes non competitive, the
Speaker 1: broadcast rights would be nowhere near the value they are now,
Speaker 1: and the money and the dream doesn't trickle down to
Speaker 1: all these clubs below, which is a very essence of
Speaker 1: English football. So my concern is that hasn't been fought
Speaker 1: through and we are yet, of course, to see the
Speaker 1: full plan because we still haven't seen exactly what these
Speaker 1: owners want. Let's get the full plan and carry on
Speaker 1: this conversation. But it's a passionate time. We do need
Speaker 1: to be cool heads and calm heads. There are rumors
Speaker 1: today that it might crumble, so let's see where it goes.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I am concerned for the future of my
Speaker 1: sport for sure. How can I help? You need to
Speaker 1: spread the word down. I need to come on here
Speaker 1: every single day, every day, Dan Patrick. You're five minutes
Speaker 1: or five seconds of soccer or what everybody, And I
Speaker 1: know I've got people watching today to agree with me.
Speaker 1: We need more conversations with Dan Patrick. Now, you know
Speaker 1: I've been watching some documentaries I watched the one on leads.
Speaker 1: I watched Sunderland till I die right, just letting you
Speaker 1: know I support the cause and I like the relegated
Speaker 1: you know programs, the old team. So it is my
Speaker 1: question to you, Dan, I know it would work over
Speaker 1: in the US relegation because you're far too down the line.
Speaker 1: Certainly in the NFL there's no real league underneath it.
Speaker 1: But the relegation promotion, I mean that does it not?
Speaker 1: It adds so much, doesn't it. You can understand, yes, well,
Speaker 1: you could do this in college football. Let's say you
Speaker 1: took the top twenty programs and then you could get
Speaker 1: you know too drop each year and then two college
Speaker 1: football programs go up. Then that would resonate with people
Speaker 1: and they'd be like, whoa wait a minute, that's costly.
Speaker 1: And that's what it is. It's devastating when you drive
Speaker 1: financially when you are relegated, devastating, of course it is.
Speaker 1: It's people are laid off. It's terrible and that's and
Speaker 1: this is what makes the drama of football so engaging
Speaker 1: and addictive. And of course in the States things are
Speaker 1: different and it's done in a different way. And I
Speaker 1: wouldn't expect them to just bring in relegation, but my goodness,
Speaker 1: it would make it better. But it's something that can't change.
Speaker 1: It's been there for hundreds of years, and I think
Speaker 1: what people are scared of is that what makes the
Speaker 1: game so beautiful looks like at the moment is going
Speaker 1: to be removed and it doesn't help your team, Crystal Palace,
Speaker 1: they still aren't any good. So none of this, none
Speaker 1: of this happen helps you, right, you know, no. I
Speaker 1: mean if the top six finish in the top six
Speaker 1: places and Crystal Palace was to finish seventh, I mean
Speaker 1: basically we're champions. So it's great to talk to you.
Speaker 1: Keep your head up. Got a lot of time you
Speaker 1: know for cooler heads, smarter people to uh. I know,
Speaker 1: you follow the money and unfortunately when you follow the money,
Speaker 1: it's going to lead to this, but hopefully it doesn't.
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us as always now of course, okay, yes, Todd,
Speaker 1: make sure you book Rebecca for tomorrow. Confirmed? All right,
Speaker 1: thank you, that's Rebecca Low. There's a Premier League match
Speaker 1: later on today. It is Chelsea versus Brighton and the
Speaker 1: Super League team would be a twenty team league made
Speaker 1: up of fifteen permanent members. The remaining five compromise from
Speaker 1: teams that qualify throughout domestic European League competition. Yes, Polly,
Speaker 1: you've been up Brighton, England. Yes, I have. Really, it's
Speaker 1: that's like a coastal town, right, Yes it is. I
Speaker 1: took the train out of London and we went to
Speaker 1: Brighton and I wanted to go play pinball because Pete
Speaker 1: Townsend and the Who's sang about pinball wizard and sure
Speaker 1: plays a mean pinball. I didn't find a pinball machine
Speaker 1: in Brighton, but yeah, it's on the coast. It was beautiful,
Speaker 1: very very very cold, the water breezy and Brighton. Yes
Speaker 1: he somebody just had a funny tweet about you know
Speaker 1: how to sort of like in sports we always look
Speaker 1: back at different eras and players and where they great
Speaker 1: and where they are not great. That said, I just realized,
Speaker 1: in fifty years, kids are gonna say Ronaldo and MESSI
Speaker 1: played against Farmers and didn't do it in the Super League.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, they're are, Yeah, but who were they playing against?
Speaker 1: Yeah they weren't. They didn't do it in Super League.
Speaker 1: They did it against you know, all those other teams.
Speaker 1: We'll take a break back after this from The Dan
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Speaker 1: I'm being accused of jumping on the Steph Curry bandwagon.
Speaker 1: I've been driving the bandwagon. Tell me who picks Steph
Speaker 1: Curry to be MVP this year aside from me, you're
Speaker 1: not going to win it. I'll always be a Steph
Speaker 1: Curry fan. Always most impactful basketball player in the last
Speaker 1: thirty years. When you think about somebody who had an
Speaker 1: impact on how you play, because there are certain things
Speaker 1: that the great players. You're you can't be seven feet
Speaker 1: You're not gonna jump like Jordan. But Steph Curry made
Speaker 1: it inclusive that everybody feels like or at least you know,
Speaker 1: you start out thinking, hey, I could do that. He
Speaker 1: created so he won an MVP. He created the concept
Speaker 1: of taking twelve, thirteen, fourteen threes in a game. He
Speaker 1: won an MVP off that concept. He was the first
Speaker 1: to do that. Uh, get some phone calls in here.
Speaker 1: By the way, we were looking at the new Bengal
Speaker 1: uniforms and I don't wait, why were we looking at
Speaker 1: the Bengal uniform Well, the Bengals did their big announcement
Speaker 1: yesterday that they changed their uniforms and they're they're generally
Speaker 1: you know, the black, the orange, the white is still there,
Speaker 1: but they're more scale down. There's less they're less busy
Speaker 1: from the neck down. Now, a lot of people were
Speaker 1: asking why there were the Bengals. They're less busy from
Speaker 1: the neck down. A lot of people were asking why
Speaker 1: didn't they change a helmet. The helmet is exactly the same. Okay.
Speaker 1: According to Mike Brown, the owner, team president, it was
Speaker 1: my father's belief that the helmet should be distinctive. You
Speaker 1: should be able to walk in the stadium, look down
Speaker 1: onto the field instant and identify what team that is
Speaker 1: our helmet. Does that? He said, no plans to change
Speaker 1: the helmet. Now, if you look at what the Bengals
Speaker 1: original helmet was, you didn't walk into the stadium and say, boy,
Speaker 1: the Bengals are here, unless you went, boy, who's got
Speaker 1: the really bad helm? All the Bengals do? It actually
Speaker 1: had their team name on the side, Yes, just to
Speaker 1: help you understand who it was. The Bengals had terrible helmets.
Speaker 1: They they it was sort of orange brownish, and then
Speaker 1: it just said Bengals on the side. I mean, I
Speaker 1: guess if you want to bring it back, you know,
Speaker 1: everything is retro. But I think the kids like what
Speaker 1: the Bengals were. Yeah, mcclub, you know, I think you
Speaker 1: can judge a team by who they bring out to
Speaker 1: show off the new uniforms. And that was not an
Speaker 1: A list for the Bengals. I'm a little worried about
Speaker 1: our guy, Joe Burrow, But who is the A list
Speaker 1: for the Bengals? If you're gonna go, hey, they got
Speaker 1: their eight players together and you go, there's Joe Burrow. Well,
Speaker 1: they had that's all I know. They had it number thirty.
Speaker 1: It turned out was Jesse Bates, the eighty four that
Speaker 1: we couldn't figure out as a backup tight end named
Speaker 1: Mitch Wilcox or something. Oh Wilcox, I've never heard of him,
Speaker 1: unless I was misreading this. It's not a good list.
Speaker 1: They do have te Higgins and Tyler Boyd. But yeah,
Speaker 1: admit it looks like an uphill battle for Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: to really be great here. Wow, that's really going against
Speaker 1: the grain. McLevin. Wait, what's a numberrowe overall pick? And
Speaker 1: there was reason why who's the number one overall pick?
Speaker 1: Because they had the number one overall pick? They want
Speaker 1: any good but you know that five year window like this,
Speaker 1: just this team does not feel like they're gonna threaten
Speaker 1: in Joe Burrow's five year window. They might not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: set kind of dabbling into Buster Busted a segment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow could get busted by the Bengals. He's a
Speaker 1: great candidate for she buster busted. Yes he is, Yes, Paul,
Speaker 1: then why don't he Why don't quarterbacks pull Eli mannings
Speaker 1: more often? Why we would discuss this last year based
Speaker 1: off nothing about Joe Burrow not wanting to play for
Speaker 1: the Bengals, and you know he definitely didn't take the
Speaker 1: beat or anything. But if you're Wilson from BYU, do
Speaker 1: you want to be a Jet? What would make you
Speaker 1: want to be a Jet? You know, for the sake
Speaker 1: of your career, Well, you get to go in to
Speaker 1: New York and if if you win as a Jet,
Speaker 1: like Joe Namath went to the Hall of Fame. I
Speaker 1: mean that's a long time ago, but that's the last
Speaker 1: time they had a quality quarterback. It feels like, yeah, mclub.
Speaker 1: I mean, bad teams need quarterbacks. You're going to have
Speaker 1: to go to a bad team. There's no way you're
Speaker 1: going to go to a good team. Eli was an anomaly.
Speaker 1: If I said to Sam Darnold in a game of
Speaker 1: duo overs, he's coming out of USC you can refuse
Speaker 1: to go to the Jets, what do you think Sam
Speaker 1: Darnold would say, knowing what he knows now, he might say, well, privately,
Speaker 1: I would say this. Publicly, I would probably tow the
Speaker 1: line like John Elway said, I'm not going to play
Speaker 1: for Baltimore. I mean he took heat but it was
Speaker 1: the right move. Uh, Mark in Michigan, Hey Mark Dan,
Speaker 1: how are you good? Mark? Good? Well? I just wanted
Speaker 1: to say we were pleased to have you in Brighton night.
Speaker 1: That's where I grew up. I grew up less than
Speaker 1: a mile from the stadium, back when Brighton hold out
Speaker 1: and we're back at the Goldstone Ground and I would
Speaker 1: just echo what Rebecca said earlier. We were almost kicked
Speaker 1: out of the league about twenty five years ago, just
Speaker 1: about surviva the skin of our teeth, and now here
Speaker 1: we are back up in the Premiership again. That you know,
Speaker 1: that would be lost if the Super League comes to
Speaker 1: me to come from Thank you Mark, and it was
Speaker 1: nice to be in Brighton. Um I didn't go watch
Speaker 1: a soccer match, but imagine if you had college football
Speaker 1: where you had the top twenty schools and you were
Speaker 1: going to relegate to every year to go up to
Speaker 1: come down. How much fun would that be in those
Speaker 1: last days college football? That would be really interesting. But
Speaker 1: that's what you have in the Premier League relegation and
Speaker 1: it's devastating to these smaller towns the importance of that
Speaker 1: soccer team. Two hours in the books, One more to go, Seaton,
Speaker 1: Paul Fritzie mcloviner is truly more of your phone calls
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