1 00:00:16,829 --> 00:00:17,409 Speaker 1: Hello. 2 00:00:17,610 --> 00:00:19,590 Speaker 2: And welcome. To My Favorite Murder. 3 00:00:19,870 --> 00:00:20,730 Speaker 3: The mini-sode. 4 00:00:20,770 --> 00:00:22,250 Speaker 2: We read you your stories. 5 00:00:23,090 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 3: And you love it. 6 00:00:23,910 --> 00:00:24,260 Speaker 1: We love it. 7 00:00:24,290 --> 00:00:26,050 Speaker 2: We love it. Let's do it. I'm going to go 8 00:00:26,070 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: first this time, right? Do it. 9 00:00:27,290 --> 00:00:27,470 Speaker 4: Yeah. 10 00:00:27,490 --> 00:00:29,870 Speaker 2: Okay. This is called How I Met the Third Man 11 00:00:29,990 --> 00:00:30,630 Speaker 2: in Hawaii. 12 00:00:30,710 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 4: And the third man is that story I've done before. 13 00:00:33,090 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 4: I did a long time ago of like a ghosty 14 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 4: person saving, helping save your life. 15 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:38,580 Speaker 2: And then there was nobody there. 16 00:00:38,740 --> 00:00:40,580 Speaker 3: Yes. I love these stories. 17 00:00:41,659 --> 00:00:45,300 Speaker 2: This is kind of long, but hopefully so is their life. 18 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:45,900 Speaker 1: Okay. Okay. 19 00:00:46,330 --> 00:00:48,930 Speaker 4: Hello, kind strangers who give us weekly tales of ghastly 20 00:00:48,990 --> 00:00:53,030 Speaker 4: deeds and human triumph. Last month while vacationing in Hawaii, 21 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 4: I had the unfortunate or maybe fortunate luck of, quote, 22 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:00,100 Speaker 4: meeting the third man. I'm a 46-year-old male and a 23 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 4: decent swimmer, though slightly overweight, which, as I found out, 24 00:01:03,580 --> 00:01:05,530 Speaker 4: does not equate to buoyancy. 25 00:01:05,550 --> 00:01:05,630 Speaker 1: Yeah. 26 00:01:06,900 --> 00:01:09,300 Speaker 4: I've been snorkeling in Honolulu before when I was younger, 27 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 4: and because of this, I probably overestimated my current abilities. 28 00:01:12,780 --> 00:01:14,620 Speaker 2: Yeah, 46, we do that a lot. 29 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 3: You're just like, ugh, I've done that before. 30 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:18,460 Speaker 2: So easy. I'm still in great shape. 31 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:19,020 Speaker 3: Let's go. 32 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,220 Speaker 4: It happened three days into vacation when my wife and 33 00:01:22,270 --> 00:01:25,030 Speaker 4: I headed to the beach with our two boys, 17 34 00:01:25,030 --> 00:01:27,690 Speaker 4: and 5. Afternoon winds and waves tend to churn up 35 00:01:27,750 --> 00:01:29,890 Speaker 4: the waters a bit on the beach, so I couldn't 36 00:01:29,930 --> 00:01:31,729 Speaker 4: see the reef when I headed into the water for 37 00:01:31,750 --> 00:01:35,170 Speaker 4: what I thought would be some light snorkeling. Unfortunately, as 38 00:01:35,209 --> 00:01:37,300 Speaker 4: I would later find out, I picked a spot on 39 00:01:37,330 --> 00:01:39,500 Speaker 4: the beach right in the middle of what is listed 40 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,780 Speaker 4: on the map as Gray's Channel, which happens to have 41 00:01:42,860 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 4: very little wreath and is actually. 42 00:01:44,380 --> 00:01:47,260 Speaker 2: The deepest stretch of the whole ocean. 43 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 3: Oh, the whole thing? 44 00:01:48,260 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: I mean, of that ocean? I don't know, maybe. 45 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,270 Speaker 4: A few other vacationers nearby were snorkeling in the same area, 46 00:01:54,330 --> 00:01:56,530 Speaker 4: and I heard one excitedly call out that there was 47 00:01:56,550 --> 00:01:59,310 Speaker 4: a sea turtle probably 50 or 60 feet to my right. 48 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 4: After staring down at sand for the last 15 minutes, 49 00:02:03,100 --> 00:02:05,260 Speaker 4: I turned to their voices and put in some good 50 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,090 Speaker 4: kicks hoping to catch some video of the turtle with 51 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 4: my GoPro wristwatch. 52 00:02:10,389 --> 00:02:13,070 Speaker 2: Just experience it. Why are we always filming? 53 00:02:13,090 --> 00:02:14,850 Speaker 3: Why do you have to capture it and make, why 54 00:02:15,410 --> 00:02:17,430 Speaker 3: do you have to make it into content? We'll be 55 00:02:17,470 --> 00:02:17,910 Speaker 3: right back. 56 00:02:18,430 --> 00:02:18,650 Speaker 1: Right. 57 00:02:19,590 --> 00:02:22,770 Speaker 4: Speaking of, and as I approached them, that's when things 58 00:02:22,810 --> 00:02:26,230 Speaker 4: went sideways. My chest tightened up. I felt lightheaded and 59 00:02:26,270 --> 00:02:28,790 Speaker 4: I realized that I was in trouble. This was an 60 00:02:28,930 --> 00:02:29,570 Speaker 4: asthma attack. 61 00:02:30,410 --> 00:02:30,609 Speaker 1: What? 62 00:02:30,910 --> 00:02:32,690 Speaker 3: A scuba diving asthma attack? 63 00:02:32,770 --> 00:02:33,210 Speaker 2: Who knew? 64 00:02:33,230 --> 00:02:33,310 Speaker 1: Fuck. 65 00:02:34,330 --> 00:02:36,050 Speaker 4: I turned to head to shore, and that's when I 66 00:02:36,090 --> 00:02:38,850 Speaker 4: realized how far out I had gone. I could see 67 00:02:38,889 --> 00:02:42,130 Speaker 4: the shore, but I was about 100 yards away. Now, 68 00:02:42,190 --> 00:02:44,910 Speaker 4: when you're having an asthma attack on land, for most cases, 69 00:02:44,970 --> 00:02:45,450 Speaker 4: it's not. 70 00:02:45,310 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 2: A huge deal. 71 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,500 Speaker 4: You take a few puffs of your inhaler and on 72 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 4: your way. In the water, though, there are complications. First 73 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 4: of all, I went out like a dummy with no flotation. 74 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,700 Speaker 4: Just me, a snorkel, and some flippers to keep myself afloat. 75 00:03:00,260 --> 00:03:03,170 Speaker 4: Less air in your lungs means less buoyancy to stay up. 76 00:03:03,450 --> 00:03:05,630 Speaker 4: Breathing through a tube in this state is not ideal, 77 00:03:05,770 --> 00:03:08,190 Speaker 4: and to pile on further, kicking your legs is drawing 78 00:03:08,230 --> 00:03:10,669 Speaker 4: away critical oxygen in the blood that you're. 79 00:03:10,550 --> 00:03:11,990 Speaker 2: Trying to use to breathe. 80 00:03:12,510 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 4: And when I started to have trouble keeping my head 81 00:03:14,419 --> 00:03:17,399 Speaker 4: above water and tried raising my hands and calling for help, 82 00:03:17,620 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 4: that's also when I realized no help was coming. In 83 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 4: addition to being in the deepest part of the beach, 84 00:03:22,580 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 4: I was also in a section that had zero lifeguards 85 00:03:25,100 --> 00:03:27,820 Speaker 4: and nobody could hear me. I rolled onto my back, 86 00:03:28,110 --> 00:03:30,950 Speaker 4: switched on the camera, and started to say goodbye to 87 00:03:30,990 --> 00:03:31,710 Speaker 4: my family. 88 00:03:31,870 --> 00:03:32,850 Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah. 89 00:03:33,430 --> 00:03:36,670 Speaker 3: That's so scary. It just turns like that. 90 00:03:36,670 --> 00:03:39,490 Speaker 4: 100 yards is so far, like, when you think about 91 00:03:39,530 --> 00:03:42,470 Speaker 4: it as, like, shore and how far you have to 92 00:03:42,490 --> 00:03:43,970 Speaker 4: swim during an asthma attack. 93 00:03:44,410 --> 00:03:44,770 Speaker 2: Yes. 94 00:03:44,910 --> 00:03:46,470 Speaker 3: And no one seeing or hearing you. 95 00:03:46,690 --> 00:03:46,870 Speaker 1: No. 96 00:03:47,970 --> 00:03:50,940 Speaker 4: That's when I, quote, met the third man. I never 97 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 4: saw anyone with my eyes, but there was suddenly the 98 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 4: sensation of another person there and a voice that I 99 00:03:56,060 --> 00:03:56,460 Speaker 4: could hear. 100 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: Quote, stop talking to the camera. You're burning air. 101 00:04:00,220 --> 00:04:02,810 Speaker 4: You might still be able to make it. Take a 102 00:04:02,830 --> 00:04:05,790 Speaker 4: bearing on the shore, float on your back and start kicking. 103 00:04:06,270 --> 00:04:08,050 Speaker 4: Even if you don't get all the way on your own, 104 00:04:08,070 --> 00:04:09,830 Speaker 4: you'll be closer to shore and someone might be able 105 00:04:09,850 --> 00:04:12,070 Speaker 4: to get to you in time the closer you are. 106 00:04:12,090 --> 00:04:12,900 Speaker 3: End quote. 107 00:04:13,410 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 4: So I did what I was told and started kicking 108 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 4: my way back while still struggling with the tightness in 109 00:04:17,700 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 4: my rib cage. 110 00:04:18,940 --> 00:04:22,260 Speaker 2: No talking. Every movement calculated on getting back to shore. 111 00:04:22,500 --> 00:04:23,900 Speaker 2: Get a few breaths. Keep going. 112 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,780 Speaker 4: It took me about 10 minutes until I finally felt 113 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 4: my flippers hit the bottom, by which point the family 114 00:04:29,380 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 4: had realized something was wrong. My oldest son had to 115 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,740 Speaker 4: haul me out onto dry land as waves carried me 116 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,260 Speaker 4: up the last 50 feet or so, and that's when 117 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,940 Speaker 4: the voice departed with a, see, you made it. My 118 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,130 Speaker 4: legs and arms were numb from exhaustion, and for the 119 00:04:43,170 --> 00:04:45,950 Speaker 4: next hour I could not move. I just yacked and 120 00:04:45,990 --> 00:04:49,050 Speaker 4: then laid there focusing on breathing. Fun note, I had 121 00:04:49,089 --> 00:04:51,510 Speaker 4: also left my inhaler back in the hotel room, so 122 00:04:51,570 --> 00:04:52,630 Speaker 4: no relief from that. 123 00:04:54,070 --> 00:04:56,510 Speaker 3: That is an unrealistic asthmatic right there. 124 00:04:56,529 --> 00:04:56,950 Speaker 1: Totally. 125 00:04:56,970 --> 00:04:58,790 Speaker 2: I'll be fine. It's fun. 126 00:04:59,410 --> 00:05:01,310 Speaker 4: I haven't talked with too many people about what happened 127 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 4: because I feel like even after reading about the third 128 00:05:03,940 --> 00:05:06,340 Speaker 4: man and hearing you guys talk about it, a disembodied 129 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,860 Speaker 4: voice telling you to shut up and giving you directions 130 00:05:08,900 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 4: in the middle of the ocean would probably sound a bit. 131 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:12,219 Speaker 2: Nuts to most. 132 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,140 Speaker 4: Thanks for taking us along for the ride every week. 133 00:05:15,460 --> 00:05:19,650 Speaker 4: Stay sexy and fight for every last effing breath. Smarticus 134 00:05:19,670 --> 00:05:21,170 Speaker 4: is the name they use. 135 00:05:21,870 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 2: Anonymous. Smarticus. 136 00:05:25,140 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: Wow, that's, first of all, very meaningful to me that 137 00:05:28,620 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: Smarticus exists. would share his third man experience with us. 138 00:05:32,110 --> 00:05:33,969 Speaker 1: Because it's like, yeah, you would be kind of embarrassed, 139 00:05:33,990 --> 00:05:35,930 Speaker 1: but we love this shit. 140 00:05:35,990 --> 00:05:36,270 Speaker 2: Right. 141 00:05:36,310 --> 00:05:38,550 Speaker 4: And then I wonder if he hadn't listened to that episode, 142 00:05:38,570 --> 00:05:41,029 Speaker 4: if he would have either not listened to it or 143 00:05:41,089 --> 00:05:42,130 Speaker 4: just like blown it off. 144 00:05:42,450 --> 00:05:42,750 Speaker 3: Right. 145 00:05:42,810 --> 00:05:44,430 Speaker 2: So he saved his life is what I'm trying to say. 146 00:05:44,450 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it absolutely was us there in Hawaii. It might 147 00:05:47,420 --> 00:05:48,660 Speaker 3: as well. We are the third man. 148 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:48,940 Speaker 2: Yeah. 149 00:05:49,060 --> 00:05:49,659 Speaker 3: Third and fourth. 150 00:05:49,779 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 2: Now you owe us a trip to Hawaii. 151 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:53,620 Speaker 3: That's what we have figured out. 152 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,779 Speaker 1: But I do love that idea where in the stories 153 00:05:56,860 --> 00:05:59,450 Speaker 1: I've heard like that one and others. Yeah. Where it 154 00:05:59,529 --> 00:06:02,670 Speaker 1: isn't a familiar voice. It isn't like my grandmother came 155 00:06:02,710 --> 00:06:05,610 Speaker 1: to me. It's literally like some weird right in your ear, 156 00:06:05,670 --> 00:06:08,150 Speaker 1: like do this, don't do that, get it together. 157 00:06:08,190 --> 00:06:10,460 Speaker 4: And do this in a way like you weren't thinking 158 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 4: that you could do that. Like floating on your back 159 00:06:12,620 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 4: and doing back strokes to tell you can get close 160 00:06:15,460 --> 00:06:17,740 Speaker 4: enough and they can find you like didn't cross his mind. 161 00:06:17,820 --> 00:06:20,859 Speaker 2: He had to like hear it from an outside perspective. voice. 162 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 4: Right. 163 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 3: And kind of like a voice that said, don't give up. 164 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: You have to start. And here's how you can start. 165 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:31,060 Speaker 1: It's not impossible. Just like cut through. I know I've 166 00:06:31,110 --> 00:06:34,550 Speaker 1: talked about this before, but I recommend the podcast Snapped 167 00:06:35,070 --> 00:06:35,990 Speaker 1: a bunch of times. 168 00:06:36,290 --> 00:06:37,029 Speaker 3: It's amazing. 169 00:06:38,250 --> 00:06:40,770 Speaker 1: But it's people telling their own first person stories. And 170 00:06:40,790 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: there is a woman who tells a childhood story of 171 00:06:44,100 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: the third man coming to get her To basically run 172 00:06:47,980 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: away from people who were trying to kid, like a 173 00:06:50,100 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: truck that was trying to follow her when she was 174 00:06:52,500 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: on her bike. 175 00:06:53,060 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 176 00:06:53,620 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: And it was a third man voice in her ear 177 00:06:56,020 --> 00:06:59,250 Speaker 1: basically going, run now, stop. Stop, yeah. It is like. 178 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,330 Speaker 2: It's called Snap, the podcast. 179 00:07:01,350 --> 00:07:01,730 Speaker 1: Snap. 180 00:07:01,970 --> 00:07:03,110 Speaker 3: God, it's so good. 181 00:07:03,330 --> 00:07:03,729 Speaker 4: Amazing. 182 00:07:05,850 --> 00:07:08,870 Speaker 1: Anyway, very similar story here. The subject line of this 183 00:07:08,950 --> 00:07:12,810 Speaker 1: email is, lemonade stand scam. Okay. Hello. Hello. I heard 184 00:07:12,850 --> 00:07:16,230 Speaker 1: a lemonade stand story in Minnesota 508, and I knew 185 00:07:16,310 --> 00:07:19,370 Speaker 1: I needed to tell my lemonade stand story. It says, 186 00:07:19,530 --> 00:07:22,270 Speaker 1: I live in a northern cold place where winter lasts 187 00:07:22,350 --> 00:07:25,340 Speaker 1: nine months and summer must be fully taken advantage of. 188 00:07:25,350 --> 00:07:28,510 Speaker 1: A couple years ago, it was the first nice day 189 00:07:28,550 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: of the year. It was a Sunday morning, a nice 190 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,980 Speaker 1: 65 degrees, and everyone was coming out of their homes 191 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: to enjoy the weather. I was driving, listening to music 192 00:07:36,860 --> 00:07:39,890 Speaker 1: with the windows down and feeling extra chipper. So when 193 00:07:39,930 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: I saw a little kid manning a lemonade stand, I 194 00:07:42,510 --> 00:07:45,100 Speaker 1: decided to pull over. I asked the little boy how 195 00:07:45,130 --> 00:07:47,260 Speaker 1: much he was charging, and he said 25 cents for 196 00:07:47,300 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: a small and 50 cents for a large. I felt 197 00:07:50,300 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: like spending the big buckets, so I told him I'd 198 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,660 Speaker 1: take a large, and I rummaged through my car for 199 00:07:54,700 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: two quarters. Once I handed him the money, he broke 200 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,820 Speaker 1: the news to me. He said, well, we don't have 201 00:07:59,860 --> 00:08:00,780 Speaker 1: any lemonade yet. 202 00:08:00,860 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 3: We just have water. 203 00:08:01,860 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: Oh! I was a little shocked, but I said I'd 204 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: take the water. He proceeded to pour me warm water 205 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: in a glass Tiki Man cup. Yes, like those souvenir 206 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: cups you get that look like you're drinking out of 207 00:08:15,060 --> 00:08:17,900 Speaker 1: a Tiki Man, but glass. He then handed it to 208 00:08:17,940 --> 00:08:19,500 Speaker 1: me as I took a sip, and then he said, 209 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to need that cup back when you're done. 210 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,210 Speaker 1: At that point, I took one more sip, handed him 211 00:08:25,230 --> 00:08:28,110 Speaker 1: back the warm water in a cup, and politely told 212 00:08:28,150 --> 00:08:30,970 Speaker 1: him I'm not thirsty and he can use the water 213 00:08:31,010 --> 00:08:34,270 Speaker 1: for his nearby plants. So many things went through my head. 214 00:08:34,830 --> 00:08:36,890 Speaker 3: Where did this water actually come from? 215 00:08:37,070 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: Oh, God. 216 00:08:37,830 --> 00:08:41,090 Speaker 3: Had he used this cup on other people already? Would 217 00:08:41,150 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 3: he clean it after I drank out of it? 218 00:08:42,970 --> 00:08:43,770 Speaker 2: Absolutely not. 219 00:08:43,850 --> 00:08:45,870 Speaker 3: Would he actually dump out the water? 220 00:08:45,929 --> 00:08:46,970 Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. 221 00:08:48,950 --> 00:08:51,270 Speaker 1: The whole thing seemed a little too sketchy for me. 222 00:08:51,590 --> 00:08:54,189 Speaker 1: Too sketchy after you took the sip. Totally. But I 223 00:08:54,230 --> 00:08:57,150 Speaker 1: do appreciate his strategy to make sure he secured that 224 00:08:57,150 --> 00:09:00,150 Speaker 1: 50 cents. Anyway, stay sexy and make sure you have 225 00:09:00,190 --> 00:09:06,189 Speaker 1: the product in hand before handing over the cash. J. J. Wow. Yeah. 226 00:09:06,690 --> 00:09:07,850 Speaker 3: Learning and growing here. 227 00:09:07,870 --> 00:09:11,310 Speaker 2: Early scammers. Yeah. That's fucking hilarious. 228 00:09:11,350 --> 00:09:13,689 Speaker 3: We don't have lemons right this moment. 229 00:09:13,710 --> 00:09:16,410 Speaker 4: I would go like wash my mouth with antibacterial soap. 230 00:09:16,730 --> 00:09:18,770 Speaker 4: I'm just thinking of how gross children are, you know? 231 00:09:18,910 --> 00:09:19,189 Speaker 3: Yes. 232 00:09:19,630 --> 00:09:21,870 Speaker 1: And where, yeah, the cup could have been sitting next 233 00:09:21,890 --> 00:09:23,730 Speaker 1: to their front porch like gathering rain. 234 00:09:23,750 --> 00:09:26,729 Speaker 2: Totally. It's a rainwater cup. Pour it out. Turn on 235 00:09:26,750 --> 00:09:28,970 Speaker 2: the spigot outside with your lead pipes. 236 00:09:29,050 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 3: Get the tadpoles out of there. 237 00:09:30,500 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 1: Rinse it. 238 00:09:31,340 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 3: Serve it. 239 00:09:33,059 --> 00:09:36,030 Speaker 1: Bleh. Okay. 240 00:09:36,670 --> 00:09:38,670 Speaker 2: I'm not going to tell you the subject line. Hello, 241 00:09:38,750 --> 00:09:39,610 Speaker 2: incredible people. 242 00:09:39,630 --> 00:09:42,780 Speaker 4: In the 1970s, my grandma and grandpa were having a 243 00:09:42,770 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 4: vacation and had just arrived at their hotel. Grandpa decided 244 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,340 Speaker 4: to go play at the casino while my grandma jumped 245 00:09:48,380 --> 00:09:51,180 Speaker 4: in the shower after a full day of travel. After 246 00:09:51,220 --> 00:09:53,660 Speaker 4: a few minutes, she heard pounding on the door, the 247 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,950 Speaker 4: door being forced open, and men yelling, this is the FBI, 248 00:09:58,090 --> 00:09:59,429 Speaker 4: come out with your hands up. 249 00:09:59,510 --> 00:09:59,750 Speaker 1: Whoa. 250 00:10:00,260 --> 00:10:03,340 Speaker 4: My grandmother, terrified, jumped out of the shower, covered herself 251 00:10:03,380 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 4: with a robe, and went out to her hotel bedroom 252 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,510 Speaker 4: to find five armed FBI agents. 253 00:10:09,290 --> 00:10:12,750 Speaker 3: Apparently, my grandma— She was dealing code. 254 00:10:13,429 --> 00:10:13,729 Speaker 1: Maybe. 255 00:10:14,290 --> 00:10:18,310 Speaker 4: Apparently, my grandma looks a lot like the kidnapped Patty Hearst. 256 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,140 Speaker 4: who had just robbed the bank in San Francisco and 257 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 4: was wanted. 258 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:24,660 Speaker 3: Holy shit. 259 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,059 Speaker 4: Someone in the lobby of the hotel, some nosy fucking bitch, 260 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 4: you know. 261 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 2: You know who I saw? 262 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:30,140 Speaker 3: Patty Hearst. 263 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,390 Speaker 4: Sorry, I called your grandma a bitch, whoever it was. 264 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 4: Someone in the lobby of the hotel called the police 265 00:10:35,260 --> 00:10:38,540 Speaker 4: while grandma and grandpa had been checking in. As grandma 266 00:10:38,590 --> 00:10:41,670 Speaker 4: is explaining everything, someone alerted my grandpa, and he came 267 00:10:41,790 --> 00:10:43,590 Speaker 4: up from the casino to help sort out the mess 268 00:10:43,650 --> 00:10:46,829 Speaker 4: and describe it. No, my grandma was not Patty Hearst. 269 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,510 Speaker 4: After a bit, the FBI left. Turns out, throughout this 270 00:10:50,590 --> 00:10:54,530 Speaker 4: entire mess, my grandma was more panicked about the two 271 00:10:54,670 --> 00:10:58,990 Speaker 4: joints left on the dresser, all caps, in plain sight of. 272 00:10:58,929 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 2: The FBI agents. So this is what, the 70s or 80s? Yes. 273 00:11:02,860 --> 00:11:03,780 Speaker 2: And there's joints. 274 00:11:03,820 --> 00:11:04,239 Speaker 3: Early 70s. 275 00:11:04,260 --> 00:11:06,170 Speaker 2: That is straight to jail. Yes. 276 00:11:06,250 --> 00:11:06,530 Speaker 1: Right? 277 00:11:06,690 --> 00:11:07,850 Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, yeah. 278 00:11:07,870 --> 00:11:08,330 Speaker 2: Straight to jail. 279 00:11:08,350 --> 00:11:09,030 Speaker 3: Straight to jail. 280 00:11:09,650 --> 00:11:11,969 Speaker 4: She knew she couldn't hide them covertly, so she just 281 00:11:12,050 --> 00:11:13,990 Speaker 4: had to wait to see if they would arrest her 282 00:11:14,030 --> 00:11:16,550 Speaker 4: for the pot once they realized she had not robbed 283 00:11:16,630 --> 00:11:20,620 Speaker 4: any banks. Thankfully, Grandma and Grandpa didn't get arrested, and 284 00:11:20,630 --> 00:11:22,300 Speaker 4: we still laugh about it to this day. 285 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 2: Where'd you get pot back then? 286 00:11:24,740 --> 00:11:28,060 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, they either lived next to a pot 287 00:11:28,100 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: farm or they actually were drug dealers and should have 288 00:11:32,220 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: been arrested that day. 289 00:11:33,420 --> 00:11:33,860 Speaker 3: Yeah. 290 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 2: Thank you for everything. 291 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 4: I've been here since 2016, and you've gotten me through 292 00:11:38,179 --> 00:11:40,860 Speaker 4: so many tough patches and beautiful moments. Thank you for 293 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,620 Speaker 4: all of your discussions on mental health. It was what 294 00:11:43,660 --> 00:11:47,689 Speaker 4: inspired me to finally start medication. And wow, this stuff works. 295 00:11:49,429 --> 00:11:52,190 Speaker 4: You have a listener for life here. And remember, don't 296 00:11:52,250 --> 00:11:54,570 Speaker 4: put anything on a dresser you don't want the FBI 297 00:11:54,590 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 4: to see. Taylor, and then side by side of Grandma 298 00:11:58,920 --> 00:11:59,660 Speaker 4: and Patty Hearst. 299 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 2: Are you ready? 300 00:12:00,660 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 3: Yes. 301 00:12:01,179 --> 00:12:01,500 Speaker 4: Okay. 302 00:12:01,540 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 2: Tell me if you think they look alike. 303 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:03,020 Speaker 1: Oh. 304 00:12:03,700 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 4: See, not enough. That person was being so nosy. They 305 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:08,620 Speaker 4: do not look close enough. 306 00:12:09,020 --> 00:12:10,620 Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing. 307 00:12:11,179 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: This was like the monoculture where this was the only 308 00:12:13,730 --> 00:12:14,810 Speaker 1: thing that happened that day. 309 00:12:14,890 --> 00:12:15,210 Speaker 2: Totally. 310 00:12:15,270 --> 00:12:17,410 Speaker 3: It wasn't like, oh, well, flip, flip, flip, and there's 311 00:12:17,450 --> 00:12:18,510 Speaker 3: a bunch of other exciting stuff. 312 00:12:18,550 --> 00:12:20,990 Speaker 2: It's like this. And what if they were right? 313 00:12:21,230 --> 00:12:21,370 Speaker 1: Yeah. 314 00:12:21,670 --> 00:12:21,890 Speaker 2: Yeah. 315 00:12:22,450 --> 00:12:22,690 Speaker 4: All right. 316 00:12:22,910 --> 00:12:23,150 Speaker 1: Cool. 317 00:12:23,250 --> 00:12:26,150 Speaker 4: Thank you for writing that in, Taylor. We love grandparent stories. 318 00:12:26,510 --> 00:12:29,010 Speaker 4: We love, like, rebellious grandparents. 319 00:12:29,670 --> 00:12:32,630 Speaker 3: Also false identity, mistaken identity. 320 00:12:32,710 --> 00:12:34,750 Speaker 2: Yes, FBI being involved. 321 00:12:34,870 --> 00:12:37,610 Speaker 3: Grandparents' mistaken identity and the FBI. 322 00:12:37,929 --> 00:12:38,349 Speaker 1: Yeah. 323 00:12:38,370 --> 00:12:39,510 Speaker 3: It's everything we love. 324 00:12:40,250 --> 00:12:45,590 Speaker 1: Very similar to this subject line, tornado slash grandparent slash 325 00:12:45,650 --> 00:12:46,950 Speaker 1: dog survival story. Oh. 326 00:12:47,890 --> 00:12:48,570 Speaker 3: It says, hello, all. 327 00:12:49,140 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: I heard a call for tornado stories. As someone who 328 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,100 Speaker 1: was born and raised in Oklahoma, I could not resist 329 00:12:56,179 --> 00:12:58,939 Speaker 1: sharing mine. It's exactly who we want to hear from. 330 00:12:59,160 --> 00:12:59,900 Speaker 2: Oklahoma, boom. 331 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:05,750 Speaker 1: On May 3rd, 1999, an F5 tornado devastated my hometown 332 00:13:06,179 --> 00:13:08,590 Speaker 1: with wind speeds reaching 301 miles per hour. A total 333 00:13:08,830 --> 00:13:20,570 Speaker 1: of 8,132 homes, 1,041 apartments, 260 businesses, 11 public buildings, 334 00:13:21,030 --> 00:13:23,869 Speaker 1: and seven churches were damaged or destroyed. 335 00:13:23,890 --> 00:13:25,970 Speaker 2: That's an entire large town. 336 00:13:26,090 --> 00:13:27,229 Speaker 3: It took out a town. 337 00:13:27,350 --> 00:13:28,189 Speaker 2: Holy shit. 338 00:13:28,290 --> 00:13:31,410 Speaker 1: And I think, I mean, F5, obviously, but it's like, 339 00:13:31,750 --> 00:13:34,550 Speaker 1: that's what they do in a swath, in a strip of, 340 00:13:34,809 --> 00:13:39,630 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just tornadoes, man. Okay, so the tornado 341 00:13:39,650 --> 00:13:43,810 Speaker 1: lasted for over an hour and tracked a 38-mile path 342 00:13:43,890 --> 00:13:48,110 Speaker 1: through the state. Amongst the rubble was my grandparents, Jerry 343 00:13:48,350 --> 00:13:52,740 Speaker 1: pronounced Gary. Sorry, Gary pronounced Gary. 344 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 2: That's like two parks and recs in one. 345 00:13:59,020 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: So it was Gary and Kathy's home. So Gary spells 346 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: it Jerry. 347 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:04,740 Speaker 3: And pronounces it Gary. 348 00:14:04,780 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 2: No, that's not allowed. 349 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:06,939 Speaker 3: I've never been angrier. 350 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,740 Speaker 1: They had been in downtown Oklahoma City at a minor 351 00:14:10,780 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: league baseball game when the sirens rang out signaling that 352 00:14:14,020 --> 00:14:16,610 Speaker 1: a tornado had touched down and they had to take cover. 353 00:14:17,150 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: Upon returning home to the suburbs of Oklahoma City, they 354 00:14:20,410 --> 00:14:23,500 Speaker 1: found their home destroyed. To be able to get in 355 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: and out of their neighborhood after that, they had to 356 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: prove their identity to the National Guard, who patrolled the 357 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:32,340 Speaker 1: streets armed with guns at all times. Amongst the shock 358 00:14:32,420 --> 00:14:35,820 Speaker 1: and horror of seeing their entire home destroyed, they realized 359 00:14:35,900 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: something horrifying. Their pug puppy, Popeye— named this because she was 360 00:14:40,990 --> 00:14:44,290 Speaker 1: missing an eye— had been at home and in the 361 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,540 Speaker 1: backyard when the tornado hit. Not only had they lost 362 00:14:47,580 --> 00:14:50,380 Speaker 1: their home, but they lost their puppy, who was less 363 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: than a year. 364 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 3: Old at the time. 365 00:14:51,660 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: The next day, while sorting through rubble, my papa called 366 00:14:55,590 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: out near what had been his backyard workshop. There, burrowed 367 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:04,620 Speaker 1: under the rubble, was little Popeye, scared but alive and well. 368 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,500 Speaker 2: Popeye, good boy. 369 00:15:06,540 --> 00:15:08,140 Speaker 3: Just a little girl. 370 00:15:08,490 --> 00:15:09,490 Speaker 2: Girl, good girl. 371 00:15:09,610 --> 00:15:13,530 Speaker 1: A little one-eyed girl that's only just a baby. My 372 00:15:13,570 --> 00:15:16,590 Speaker 1: grandparents have only been able to assume that she sensed 373 00:15:16,650 --> 00:15:20,390 Speaker 1: what was coming and took cover. They had thought that 374 00:15:20,410 --> 00:15:22,390 Speaker 1: they heard a whimper coming from the ruins of their 375 00:15:22,430 --> 00:15:25,890 Speaker 1: backyard all day, and they were right. Because my papa 376 00:15:25,930 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: documents everything with photos, I'm able to include pictures of 377 00:15:29,500 --> 00:15:32,900 Speaker 1: Popeye in the spot where she had sheltered herself. 378 00:15:32,940 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 2: No, I'm going to cry. 379 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 3: That's where they found her. 380 00:15:37,340 --> 00:15:38,620 Speaker 2: Good girl. 381 00:15:38,940 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 3: Just like, I don't know what's going on. 382 00:15:41,140 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 2: I'm going to hide for a minute. 383 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,730 Speaker 3: Did that little dog fly up into the eye of 384 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 3: that fucking storm? 385 00:15:47,090 --> 00:15:47,630 Speaker 1: I mean, like. 386 00:15:47,970 --> 00:15:48,870 Speaker 2: That's a baby. 387 00:15:48,990 --> 00:15:49,830 Speaker 3: Just a little one. 388 00:15:49,850 --> 00:15:52,479 Speaker 1: Yeah. Popeye went on to live a full life in 389 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: my grandparents' new home, fully equipped with a tornado shelter, 390 00:15:56,180 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: passing away in 2011 at the age of 12. Despite 391 00:15:59,660 --> 00:16:03,420 Speaker 1: her generally grumpy attitude, she was my fiercest protector. 392 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 3: So sweet. 393 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,330 Speaker 1: And then it says, I've heard you mention about weather 394 00:16:07,370 --> 00:16:10,660 Speaker 1: newscasters being a serious job, and you ladies are so right. 395 00:16:11,070 --> 00:16:13,470 Speaker 1: I'm now engaged to a newscast director at one of 396 00:16:13,490 --> 00:16:16,670 Speaker 1: the major stations here in Oklahoma, and he frequently pulls 397 00:16:16,670 --> 00:16:18,330 Speaker 1: 12 to 13-hour shifts. 398 00:16:18,370 --> 00:16:18,770 Speaker 4: Wow. 399 00:16:19,150 --> 00:16:22,260 Speaker 1: I'm grateful for my fiancé. and his co-workers that work 400 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,780 Speaker 1: so hard to keep us safe. And before I go, 401 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: I want to thank you ladies for showing me that 402 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: loving true crime can be something you can make a 403 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,660 Speaker 1: career out of. When I began listening to this podcast, 404 00:16:32,740 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: I was a community college student with absolutely no idea 405 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,470 Speaker 1: of what I wanted to do with my life. Because 406 00:16:38,500 --> 00:16:41,110 Speaker 1: of you, I had the courage to pursue my master's 407 00:16:41,150 --> 00:16:43,090 Speaker 1: degree in forensic psychology. 408 00:16:43,250 --> 00:16:45,770 Speaker 3: Oh my god. I earned it in May 2026. 409 00:16:45,750 --> 00:16:46,010 Speaker 1: Master's. 410 00:16:46,030 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 2: A master's. I'm speechless. 411 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:50,900 Speaker 4: Right? 412 00:16:51,020 --> 00:16:55,420 Speaker 1: And I'm currently getting my doctorate in forensic sciences. Stay sexy, 413 00:16:55,780 --> 00:16:58,580 Speaker 1: support your local news stations, and take cover when you 414 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: hear tornado sirens. Z, she, her. 415 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:02,580 Speaker 2: That is incredible. 416 00:17:03,260 --> 00:17:07,490 Speaker 3: Oh, and here's another picture of her grandparents' home, the devastation. 417 00:17:07,510 --> 00:17:08,889 Speaker 2: Wow, that is trashed. 418 00:17:09,430 --> 00:17:12,170 Speaker 1: It's just like, have you ever seen the footage where 419 00:17:12,210 --> 00:17:13,869 Speaker 1: it's just like, and then every once in a while 420 00:17:13,890 --> 00:17:15,370 Speaker 1: there'll just be one home untouched. 421 00:17:15,390 --> 00:17:15,550 Speaker 4: Totally. 422 00:17:15,570 --> 00:17:15,770 Speaker 1: Totally. 423 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 4: It's so crazy that we've been on long enough that 424 00:17:18,460 --> 00:17:20,190 Speaker 4: someone could not know what to do with their life, 425 00:17:20,950 --> 00:17:23,629 Speaker 4: decide what to do with their life, do the thing. 426 00:17:23,670 --> 00:17:26,390 Speaker 2: Do it. And then start working in the thing. 427 00:17:26,510 --> 00:17:26,710 Speaker 1: Yeah. 428 00:17:26,869 --> 00:17:29,690 Speaker 3: Get a serious accreditation. 429 00:17:29,770 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 2: What do they call it? 430 00:17:30,609 --> 00:17:30,889 Speaker 1: Yes. 431 00:17:31,850 --> 00:17:32,129 Speaker 2: Okay. 432 00:17:32,450 --> 00:17:33,210 Speaker 3: It's yes, that. 433 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 4: Teacher drug dog confession story is my last one. Nice. Hi, 434 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,060 Speaker 4: Karen and Georgia. You didn't ask for this, but what 435 00:17:42,100 --> 00:17:42,540 Speaker 4: the hell? 436 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:43,220 Speaker 2: Here goes. 437 00:17:44,220 --> 00:17:46,210 Speaker 4: In my first month of being a public high school 438 00:17:46,250 --> 00:17:50,330 Speaker 4: math teacher, the drug dogs came around campus, standard procedure, 439 00:17:50,730 --> 00:17:53,150 Speaker 4: and a student immediately raised his hand and told me 440 00:17:53,250 --> 00:17:55,070 Speaker 4: that he had a little pot and asked if he 441 00:17:55,090 --> 00:17:56,910 Speaker 4: could just give it to me now instead of waiting 442 00:17:56,930 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 4: for the dogs to come by. I started absolutely panicking, like, 443 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 4: all caps, oh my God, why would you tell me that? 444 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 4: And he starts begging me to take the pot from him, 445 00:18:07,859 --> 00:18:10,609 Speaker 4: and I'm sweating telling him and the whole class that 446 00:18:10,619 --> 00:18:12,470 Speaker 4: I'm going to have no choice but to call the 447 00:18:12,510 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 4: front desk And had them bring the dog straight to 448 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,380 Speaker 4: our classroom. Now he's like reaching into his bag while 449 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,530 Speaker 4: I'm screaming, do not touch anything. And I'm freaking out 450 00:18:21,609 --> 00:18:24,889 Speaker 4: and walking towards the classroom phone. And he walks towards 451 00:18:24,950 --> 00:18:28,650 Speaker 4: me and turns open his palm. And inside his hand 452 00:18:28,710 --> 00:18:31,530 Speaker 4: is the tiniest little terracotta pot I have ever seen 453 00:18:31,570 --> 00:18:35,030 Speaker 4: in my entire life. Like so small it was basically 454 00:18:35,070 --> 00:18:35,650 Speaker 4: a thimble. 455 00:18:36,450 --> 00:18:37,609 Speaker 2: Quote, a little pot. 456 00:18:38,210 --> 00:18:41,260 Speaker 4: No idea why they even make terracotta pots that small. 457 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 2: For me, I fucking love them. Or why he had 458 00:18:44,460 --> 00:18:47,699 Speaker 2: this in his backpack. But it was an all-time prank. 459 00:18:49,380 --> 00:18:51,220 Speaker 3: The kid was in on his own joke. 460 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 2: It was his joke. It was his joke. 461 00:18:53,540 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 4: I have a little pot. Can you hold on to 462 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:56,700 Speaker 4: my little pot for me? 463 00:18:56,940 --> 00:18:58,740 Speaker 3: It's a joke or is it a narc test? 464 00:18:59,200 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: Right. 465 00:19:00,010 --> 00:19:00,830 Speaker 2: Now he knows. 466 00:19:01,030 --> 00:19:02,670 Speaker 3: We know you got up to walk toward that phone. 467 00:19:02,690 --> 00:19:04,030 Speaker 2: That's right. Never trust you. 468 00:19:04,050 --> 00:19:06,870 Speaker 4: Stay sexy and always keep a little pot in your bag. 469 00:19:07,590 --> 00:19:07,929 Speaker 2: See. 470 00:19:07,950 --> 00:19:13,220 Speaker 3: That's ridiculous. Like, do not give me that part. 471 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,660 Speaker 2: Do not give me. I'm telling on you. Yeah, total dark. 472 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:17,909 Speaker 1: I mean, I literally was like, could they open the 473 00:19:17,950 --> 00:19:19,750 Speaker 1: window and put the backpack outside? 474 00:19:19,770 --> 00:19:21,190 Speaker 3: I'm like, wouldn't you help? 475 00:19:21,290 --> 00:19:21,950 Speaker 2: She wouldn't. 476 00:19:22,109 --> 00:19:27,370 Speaker 4: I mean, she could get fired and probably arrested for that. 477 00:19:28,030 --> 00:19:30,890 Speaker 3: Well, that or a teen. Teen going to jail. 478 00:19:31,190 --> 00:19:32,830 Speaker 1: True. Okay. 479 00:19:33,570 --> 00:19:35,710 Speaker 3: This is going to be a nice round us out. 480 00:19:35,730 --> 00:19:35,930 Speaker 4: Great. 481 00:19:36,150 --> 00:19:37,850 Speaker 3: Because we've really talked about everything today. Surely. 482 00:19:37,869 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: Surely. So the subject line of this email is, my 483 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,609 Speaker 1: boyfriend won a baby modeling contest. 484 00:19:44,250 --> 00:19:49,540 Speaker 2: Okay. Baby modeling. What is this? 485 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 4: I'm just imagining a mom, like, holding him up, turning 486 00:19:55,180 --> 00:19:57,540 Speaker 4: him this side, like a cat show when they hold 487 00:19:57,580 --> 00:19:58,500 Speaker 4: the cat. 488 00:19:59,300 --> 00:20:01,699 Speaker 3: And they're like, here's the stretch, here's the tail. 489 00:20:01,740 --> 00:20:03,869 Speaker 2: Open the mouth of the baby, check out the tail. 490 00:20:04,650 --> 00:20:06,910 Speaker 1: When you show a sheep, you have to hold their 491 00:20:06,970 --> 00:20:09,410 Speaker 1: jowls down and stick your knee into their chest. 492 00:20:09,450 --> 00:20:10,109 Speaker 2: Same with the baby. 493 00:20:10,390 --> 00:20:10,650 Speaker 1: Right? 494 00:20:10,850 --> 00:20:12,250 Speaker 3: So that the baby bloats out. 495 00:20:13,670 --> 00:20:14,470 Speaker 2: I didn't want to know that. 496 00:20:14,570 --> 00:20:17,669 Speaker 3: Hello, MFM crew. Too bad. That's how I live from 497 00:20:17,730 --> 00:20:19,859 Speaker 3: age eight. Hello, MFM crew. 498 00:20:19,910 --> 00:20:22,959 Speaker 1: Listening to your most recent mini-sode, you asked for baby 499 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: mall contest stories. 500 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:27,020 Speaker 2: Who are we? 501 00:20:27,140 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 3: Just total lunatics. And I have a strange one. My 502 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 3: boyfriend told me on our first date. Oh, I love that. 503 00:20:35,130 --> 00:20:37,820 Speaker 1: And I make him tell it at all dinner parties 504 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:42,409 Speaker 1: slash family gatherings slash two random people we meet. My boyfriend, Gus, 505 00:20:42,790 --> 00:20:45,170 Speaker 1: had two truths and a lie on his Hinge profile 506 00:20:45,290 --> 00:20:48,300 Speaker 1: that led to a very interesting conversation on our first date. 507 00:20:48,950 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: When he was a baby, his family was living in 508 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,940 Speaker 1: Malaysia for his dad's job. His mother entered him into 509 00:20:54,980 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: the highly competitive baby racing contest that plagued the early 510 00:20:59,260 --> 00:21:01,060 Speaker 1: 2000s malls, not only in. 511 00:21:01,060 --> 00:21:04,010 Speaker 3: The United States, but also in Malaysia. Do you remember 512 00:21:04,090 --> 00:21:04,810 Speaker 3: the baby races? 513 00:21:05,390 --> 00:21:08,770 Speaker 4: It's like a, like a dog, like a dachshund race. 514 00:21:08,510 --> 00:21:09,510 Speaker 3: Where they just like. 515 00:21:09,850 --> 00:21:10,010 Speaker 4: Yeah. 516 00:21:10,230 --> 00:21:11,570 Speaker 3: They kind of put out little lanes. 517 00:21:11,590 --> 00:21:13,950 Speaker 2: I kind of love them. I know, right? I'm fine 518 00:21:13,990 --> 00:21:14,389 Speaker 2: with those. 519 00:21:14,430 --> 00:21:15,810 Speaker 3: Because some babies just hang out. 520 00:21:15,830 --> 00:21:16,429 Speaker 2: Totally. 521 00:21:16,570 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 3: And the screaming makes them stop or go faster. 522 00:21:18,930 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 2: It's always funny. 523 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 3: It's very random. It is on par, parallel to Chicken 524 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:25,100 Speaker 3: Chip Bingo. 525 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 2: Totally Chicken Chip Bingo. But with babies. 526 00:21:28,220 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: Okay. So, baby Gus dominated the competition and won the 527 00:21:32,580 --> 00:21:36,189 Speaker 1: crawling race. And unbeknownst to him, caught the attention of 528 00:21:36,250 --> 00:21:39,950 Speaker 1: a baby modeling agent who approached his mom... with an 529 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: offer for a cover modeling shoot for a popular baby magazine. 530 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: His mother accepted the offer and has gifted me, 23 531 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:52,500 Speaker 1: years later, the most hilarious photos, in parentheses, and blackmail 532 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,179 Speaker 1: of my boyfriend. I've attached them to this email, and 533 00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:00,380 Speaker 1: I would love to point out the headlines of toxoplasmosis 534 00:22:00,700 --> 00:22:03,310 Speaker 1: and failure to thrive surrounding his face. 535 00:22:03,460 --> 00:22:04,490 Speaker 2: Oh, my God. 536 00:22:04,630 --> 00:22:07,590 Speaker 3: Just making a bizarre situation even more hilarious. 537 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: The idea of this happening in 2026 and our different 538 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 1: generational perspectives on privacy for children online makes an agent 539 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:19,220 Speaker 1: scouting out babies at the mall seem just a little creepy. 540 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: If one day we do have children, I know I 541 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: will not be continuing the baby modeling legacy, but it's 542 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: nice to know the cute baby genes are strong. I'm 543 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: incredibly lucky to have met such a sweet, interesting, and 544 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,090 Speaker 1: caring guy. I'm sending this two years after that first date. 545 00:22:34,650 --> 00:22:37,250 Speaker 1: where we could not stop talking for hours until we 546 00:22:37,290 --> 00:22:40,270 Speaker 1: were asked to leave the restaurant at closing. 547 00:22:40,369 --> 00:22:40,950 Speaker 3: So cute. 548 00:22:41,650 --> 00:22:44,950 Speaker 1: My boyfriend had many other interesting life stories, and I'm 549 00:22:44,990 --> 00:22:47,170 Speaker 1: lucky to have him in my life, and he has. 550 00:22:47,090 --> 00:22:47,830 Speaker 3: Listened to me. 551 00:22:47,850 --> 00:22:48,570 Speaker 2: Okay, easy. 552 00:22:49,230 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: Just because he's such a good-looking baby doesn't mean you 553 00:22:51,980 --> 00:22:54,220 Speaker 1: need to brag about him all day long. What if 554 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,180 Speaker 1: she's dating just a really handsome baby? 555 00:22:57,220 --> 00:22:57,700 Speaker 2: Baby mother. 556 00:22:58,640 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 3: This baby model. 557 00:22:59,260 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 2: It's my boy from the baby model. 558 00:23:00,420 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 3: The baby model's got a red Corvette. 559 00:23:02,460 --> 00:23:03,290 Speaker 2: He's real. 560 00:23:03,310 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 3: He's got a lot of. 561 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:04,790 Speaker 2: He wins races. 562 00:23:04,930 --> 00:23:05,909 Speaker 3: He's got charisma. 563 00:23:06,030 --> 00:23:08,090 Speaker 2: He's on modeling covers. 564 00:23:08,369 --> 00:23:10,470 Speaker 3: He wears a blazer and a shirt with no tie. 565 00:23:10,970 --> 00:23:11,430 Speaker 2: Ascot. 566 00:23:13,350 --> 00:23:13,609 Speaker 1: Okay. 567 00:23:13,810 --> 00:23:14,590 Speaker 3: Grateful for him. 568 00:23:14,650 --> 00:23:15,170 Speaker 2: Blah, blah, blah. 569 00:23:15,210 --> 00:23:17,570 Speaker 1: He's listened to many MFM episodes as I've been falling 570 00:23:17,609 --> 00:23:19,310 Speaker 1: asleep to your podcast for years now. 571 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 3: You don't wear headphones. 572 00:23:21,910 --> 00:23:22,260 Speaker 4: I know. 573 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 3: How could you do that? 574 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:24,180 Speaker 2: Oh, my God. 575 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:24,859 Speaker 1: At night? 576 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 577 00:23:25,700 --> 00:23:26,419 Speaker 2: Good night, sweetie. 578 00:23:28,410 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 3: In the background. He's never seen that as a red flag. Well, 579 00:23:31,380 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 3: that's nice. 580 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,139 Speaker 1: I love you ladies so much. You've been in my 581 00:23:34,220 --> 00:23:37,479 Speaker 1: ears from my freshman year of high school during geometry 582 00:23:37,540 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 1: class to my commute as I work as a board 583 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: certified music therapist. 584 00:23:43,140 --> 00:23:44,980 Speaker 2: Shit, she did it. The timeline. 585 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:45,780 Speaker 3: She did it. 586 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: And then she says, stay sexy and stay away from 587 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:49,780 Speaker 1: baby modeling agents. 588 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 3: Bailey, she, her. Are you ready for this baby modeling picture? 589 00:23:53,580 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 2: Let's see. 590 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 3: Of a lifetime. 591 00:23:58,170 --> 00:23:59,929 Speaker 2: Wow. That's a serious looking baby. 592 00:24:00,230 --> 00:24:05,530 Speaker 1: That baby went from this straight to public library shoots. 593 00:24:05,869 --> 00:24:06,070 Speaker 4: Yeah. 594 00:24:06,470 --> 00:24:09,010 Speaker 2: It says the failure to thrive right next to his face. 595 00:24:09,130 --> 00:24:11,590 Speaker 3: Failure to thrive. He's like, fuck you, bitch. 596 00:24:11,790 --> 00:24:12,570 Speaker 2: I'm thriving. 597 00:24:12,590 --> 00:24:13,909 Speaker 3: I'm thriving. 598 00:24:13,950 --> 00:24:14,190 Speaker 1: Right. 599 00:24:14,410 --> 00:24:16,330 Speaker 2: From bailing to thriving. 600 00:24:16,390 --> 00:24:17,510 Speaker 3: Who's paying for these overalls? 601 00:24:17,830 --> 00:24:18,610 Speaker 2: I am, bitch. 602 00:24:18,630 --> 00:24:21,429 Speaker 3: I'm a baby model. That's how we do it. 603 00:24:21,890 --> 00:24:25,010 Speaker 2: Oh, my God. Bailey, amazing job. Thank you for writing that. 604 00:24:25,310 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 4: And- And becoming, what was it? 605 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,540 Speaker 3: Becoming Mrs. Baby Model. One day. 606 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 2: Fingers crossed. That's like your. 607 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,239 Speaker 4: Whole wedding has to be themed on baby models. It's 608 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 4: just that on every table. 609 00:24:37,380 --> 00:24:38,420 Speaker 3: Pictures on the top. 610 00:24:38,220 --> 00:24:40,610 Speaker 2: Of the cake. 611 00:24:40,670 --> 00:24:40,830 Speaker 1: Yes. 612 00:24:41,430 --> 00:24:42,670 Speaker 2: The invitations. 613 00:24:42,810 --> 00:24:45,149 Speaker 3: Yeah, only other baby models are invited. 614 00:24:45,170 --> 00:24:47,730 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm at table baby model three. 615 00:24:47,750 --> 00:24:49,949 Speaker 1: I'm the one with all the high chairs. 616 00:24:51,150 --> 00:24:52,850 Speaker 3: So much crying, but it's fun. 617 00:24:52,950 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 2: And he wears overalls too. They both wear overalls. 618 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 3: Overall tuxedo, overall wedding dress. 619 00:25:00,740 --> 00:25:01,140 Speaker 2: That's right. 620 00:25:02,180 --> 00:25:05,310 Speaker 4: We love you overall. 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