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Speaker 3: Concept is not tough. Make plays, make the team. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And by the way, it's at episode six seventy five,

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Speaker 3: the six hundred seventy fifth edition of The Big Red Rage.

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Speaker 1: There really stunning Bali right now. And you know what's interesting,

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Speaker 3: You had me alive. I'll take that, because you know what,

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Speaker 3: Is there such a thing as a backup quarterback controversy?

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Speaker 3: Can I fan the flames of Clayton tune? Desmond Ridder?

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Speaker 1: This is exactly the way we want training camp twenty four.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't He sound like a ten year veteran. I mean, honestly,

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Speaker 3: from college. That's Paris Johnson Junior and joining Dave Passion

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Speaker 3: the Day Pash Podcast and by the way too for

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Speaker 3: Paris Johnson Jr. You understand why he was a starter

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Speaker 1: This is the kind of guy that Tamany, Assen Fort

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Speaker 1: I think it's incredible, Bully, it really is. As a

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Speaker 4: This trow is picked on.

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Speaker 2: Melachai Melton, call me Max counts touchdown Scarlett knights Man

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Speaker 3: Time inside the five yard line is intercepted by Max Melton.

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Speaker 4: Max Melton went to, you know, everybody's not have an opinions.

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Speaker 3: I gotta ask your wolf right off the top, how

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Speaker 1: I wonder you got a lot of Louis Batan.

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Speaker 3: and I think my fifteen year old would say, Dad,

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Speaker 4: But now, but no.

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Speaker 3: You know we don't. We do not own the the

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Speaker 1: What Yeah, you know, I love it? Max surious. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: how's it going for you right now? This s been

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Speaker 3: How close are you right now to playing and not thinking?

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Speaker 4: Oh, very close. I'll say I'm like ninety five percent

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Speaker 3: What part of the metal side? What part of the

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Speaker 4: Not necessary to coverages. I'll say the language. You know,

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Speaker 1: So, Max, what is your favorite coverage to play? And why?

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Speaker 4: Man? Because it is self expland towards man. Man, oh man,

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Speaker 1: So there are two different things you could play distinctly, right,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it actually just changed in college. I loved off

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Speaker 3: What if you learned about Kyler Murray so far?

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Speaker 4: He's a dog and he's a leader. He comes out

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Speaker 1: Now, do you think you could play nickel corner? Could

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Speaker 4: But I've been playing outside longer.

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Speaker 1: What is the difference? How would you describe the difference

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Speaker 3: Max Melton is our guests here on the Big Red Rage.

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Speaker 3: Second round rookie out of Rutgers. You saw a lot

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Speaker 4: That's what formed That's what formed me to liking man

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Speaker 4: I think it was like our four feet fourth game

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, those are three first round picks you just

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Speaker 4: I guarded all of them. Man, that that whole game.

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Speaker 1: That is truly incredible right there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. Preparation breeze confidence if you go out there.

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. I sense this swag that

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Speaker 1: Having said that, where do you think you need to

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Speaker 4: I say, expanding my vision and zone. I'll be in

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Speaker 4: but expand my vision and see other routes coming to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and a lot of that too, I think will

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Yeah, that's awesome.

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Speaker 4: That count means a lot. Yeah, more times you see it,

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Speaker 4: it's gonna come naturally.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 3: you had the third highest athleticism score among all the

437
00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,359
Speaker 3: corners in this draft, so that gives you confidence as well. Right,

438
00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:09,840
Speaker 3: Athletically you can.

439
00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,760
Speaker 4: Compete for sure. I knew I was a little underrated

440
00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,560
Speaker 4: just going into the combine, and I knew my athleticism,

441
00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,960
Speaker 4: and I just couldn't wait. Like I've been training for

442
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,679
Speaker 4: like two months before that, I just couldn't wait to

443
00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:19,920
Speaker 4: display it in front of the world, you know what

444
00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:21,480
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So once I hit the combine, I was

445
00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,560
Speaker 4: just like, oh, yeah, it's time to go. So jumped

446
00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:27,080
Speaker 4: over forty eleven four broad and ran a four to

447
00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 4: three nine. So and I ain't know until my trainers

448
00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,880
Speaker 4: XPE shout out Matt Gates and Tony Vallatti. They came

449
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,440
Speaker 4: up to me like, yo, like you're one of the

450
00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,160
Speaker 4: very few to like have these stats, like these stats

451
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,400
Speaker 4: in the combine. I'm like, Yo, just shout out, y'all.

452
00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:40,840
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. So in the work I

453
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,480
Speaker 4: put in, but yeah, I couldn't wait to straw that day.

454
00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,919
Speaker 3: So Jonathan Gannon's position of expertise is corner. Yeah, he

455
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,480
Speaker 3: was a position coach. And can you see these two

456
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:50,960
Speaker 3: getting along pretty well? The energy?

457
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:51,640
Speaker 1: Yeah? I can't.

458
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I remember you saying when you were drafted

459
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:58,040
Speaker 3: you knew within two minutes of meeting Jonathan Gannon. Oh yeah,

460
00:20:58,119 --> 00:20:59,560
Speaker 3: I hope this is my head coach.

461
00:20:59,640 --> 00:20:59,840
Speaker 1: Yup?

462
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,520
Speaker 3: What did you see in him? What is it that

463
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 3: you see in him then and now that makes it

464
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:04,960
Speaker 3: a good match?

465
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 4: Well, just like you said, he's a dB guy. You

466
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. In college, my head coach was

467
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,919
Speaker 4: a dB guy, a great ciano. He was coaching when

468
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 4: he was at house State. He was coaching Marshawn Laddam

469
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 4: or Denzel war you know, what I'm saying. So I'm

470
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,400
Speaker 4: very blessed to be in a position to have head

471
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 4: coaches in both college and NFL that are dB guys.

472
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,560
Speaker 4: But when I came, I thirty visit to Arizona a

473
00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 4: lot of you now, I sat down and we was

474
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,320
Speaker 4: I don't even think it was two minutes in. We

475
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:26,960
Speaker 4: were like a minute in, and he was just saying

476
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,680
Speaker 4: like all the right stuff to me, like I don't

477
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,679
Speaker 4: even remember, but it was just all the right stuff.

478
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,200
Speaker 4: And I was just like, yeah, I just knew, like, yeah,

479
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 4: this can be the guy for sure that I could

480
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 4: play for it, Like I'll go lay it out in

481
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:36,879
Speaker 4: the line for the guy like this, you know what

482
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So when I got drafted and I thought

483
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 4: back like, okay, who's the head coaching, I'm like, oh yep,

484
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 4: time to go like exactly.

485
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,920
Speaker 1: Okay, So special teams. Yeah, something very near and dear

486
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 1: to my own heart, but special teams right here? What

487
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,120
Speaker 1: teams are you on? Uh?

488
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 4: Pretty much all of them?

489
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 1: Pretty much all of them? Right now? What are you

490
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:57,680
Speaker 1: are you starting on any right now?

491
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Speaker 4: We're still figuring out the depth tit. You know, he's

492
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,160
Speaker 4: still in Yeah, how it goes. But yeah. I mean

493
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,120
Speaker 4: when it comes to special teams. My head coaching college,

494
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 4: big special teams, Greg Ciano, I led the country. Yeah,

495
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,639
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. You get to it, you

496
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,880
Speaker 4: get to it. We was in special teams meetings sometimes

497
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 4: longer than no D meetings, Like you know what I'm saying.

498
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,440
Speaker 4: So special teams near and dear to my heart as well.

499
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,160
Speaker 4: It's the biggest trade of real estate when you're talking

500
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,399
Speaker 4: about the punk game. And now with the new kickoff

501
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,119
Speaker 4: kickoff return rules, I can't wait to see how that

502
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 4: plays out over the years and what the stats gonna be.

503
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,400
Speaker 4: But special team is also near and dear to my heart.

504
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,159
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna try to do everything I can to

505
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 4: touch the field because to me, it's just another player.

506
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 4: You get to hit somebody.

507
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, talking like talking to you a little bit before

508
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,199
Speaker 1: we actually hit the air here. But you're lined up

509
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 1: at L one correct, so you're all the way split

510
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 1: out to the left of the kicker. Are you enjoying it?

511
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 1: Is it fun? This is gonna this is kind of

512
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 1: an experiment here.

513
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 4: It definitely is. It definitely is. Like I said, I

514
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 4: just can't wait to see how it goes because it

515
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 4: just seems so weird. Like at first I heard the

516
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,199
Speaker 4: new rules and where we're gonna be lining up at

517
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 4: like I was not messing. I'm like, no, keep it

518
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,119
Speaker 4: the same, Like you know what I'm saying, school football

519
00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 4: football is changing more and more.

520
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:02,400
Speaker 1: Broke.

521
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 4: But yeah, I can't wait to see how it goes,

522
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,640
Speaker 4: you know. So we gonna see a couple of weeks.

523
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 4: It's gonna be a game changing play, absolutely. I mean

524
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 4: that seems to be an opinion down on the field.

525
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,880
Speaker 4: It's gonna go from a dead play. Last year, two

526
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 4: thousand touchbacks in the league too, exactly, very small percentage

527
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:18,439
Speaker 4: that was returned.

528
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 3: All right, So you're fast, you drive a fast car.

529
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 3: You're a car guy.

530
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 4: Car yep, through and through.

531
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,439
Speaker 3: So you grew up that as in your family. I mean,

532
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 3: tell us a little bit about your passion for cars.

533
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,400
Speaker 4: So my dad, when I was like ten or twelve

534
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 4: years old, my dad had a eighty something nineteen eighty

535
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 4: something Chevy Camaro all gold and ever since he told

536
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 4: me that. When I was ten years old, I was

537
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 4: just like, yo, I kind of win a nice car.

538
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 4: So I just been looking up cars on YouTube, just

539
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 4: looking at different engines and stuff, like how to depart cars,

540
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 4: how to put them back together, how to put mods

541
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 4: in them, stuff like that. So I was like, whenever,

542
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 4: whenever I get my own money, like I'm gonna get

543
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 4: a nice car. So my parents had got me a

544
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 4: car in high school, first couple of years of college,

545
00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,919
Speaker 4: and then nil came around and I was like, oh,

546
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 4: I think I can form my own car now. So

547
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 4: I got a twenty twenty scat pack and modded it, like,

548
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 4: modded every inch of the car like I could, Like

549
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 4: I put arrant, take new exhaust. Uh what else? Oikay?

550
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 1: I like to mod it myself.

551
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 2: No.

552
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 3: Wolf couldn't start his car. Oh yeah, yeah, literally he

553
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 3: called his wife to give him a jump starts jump start.

554
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 1: This is what I want to know right now when

555
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: you get introduced, you got anything special coming out of

556
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:36,199
Speaker 1: the tunnel? You got anything?

557
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 3: You know?

558
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: I back flip, front flip. I mean, you got anything

559
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 1: with all that raw athleticism, What are you gonna do?

560
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 4: I got a little signature. I can't give it away yet,

561
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 4: but I say I say this. I say it goes

562
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 4: off of a movie, Mad Max, the original Mad Max.

563
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 4: That's all right, nice.

564
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 3: Little tea there among your tattoos. Do you have a

565
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 3: mad Max somewhere?

566
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 4: So I actually got I need a fill in on

567
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 4: my right one, and I'm gonna put mad Max there probably,

568
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 4: but I still gotta think about that if I like it. Though.

569
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 4: My rule with tattoos is you gotta wait like five

570
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 4: or six months and if you still feel the same way,

571
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 4: if some people even say longer, but if you still

572
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 4: feel the same way about the tattoo that you do

573
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 4: in that five or six months month mark, then like,

574
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:16,959
Speaker 4: go get it, you know what I'm saying. But if

575
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 4: it comes three four months and you're like, oh, I

576
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 4: don't know, but I still want it, Like, don't get it.

577
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: You don't get it.

578
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. That year coming around, you're

579
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 4: gonna be like, oh, yeah, this is dumb, you know

580
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.

581
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 1: So so tell me about May's landing on Jersey. What

582
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 1: what's that like?

583
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 4: So it's about fifteen twenty minutes outside of a lank city.

584
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 4: I think everybody knows Lang City. Okay, it's a. It's

585
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 4: a it's a very diverse town. Like I got every

586
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 4: every single piece of the apple coming from that town.

587
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 4: Like I was chilling with all types of people that

588
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 4: really form me into the person I am today. And

589
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 4: I'm just grateful that I'll get to growth and something

590
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 4: like that. And now you're gonna get that in the

591
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 4: real world, you know what I'm saying. So yeah, I'm

592
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 4: just grateful that I growth mainsland, I'm sure.

593
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 3: And maybe the best part. You're a willing tackler, are

594
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 3: you not?

595
00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 1: Yes?

596
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,679
Speaker 3: Right, we'll sall about these corner Wolf was up there

597
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 3: and the game the corner the corners of don't tackles.

598
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 4: Come on Wolf.

599
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 3: You know, you know you won't name him my name,

600
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,199
Speaker 3: but you know you're gonna like Max because he'll put

601
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 3: his face mask in there.

602
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: Don't get I Honestly, Max, this is just me. I

603
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: think you're gonna be a starter for this year. You

604
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: know now there are free This is just me, of course.

605
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: You know, no coach has said anything to me, but

606
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna be one of those guys based

607
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: on what I'm seeing right now. So you know, how

608
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: do you feel about that? I mean, is that your expectation?

609
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's always gonna be the expectation to be

610
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,919
Speaker 4: like the like Maximiz. We call Maximiz five bucks around here.

611
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 4: If I maximized my five buckets. I know I'll be

612
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 4: on the field somewhere whatever way I can help this

613
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 4: team win, That's what I'm gonna do. You know what

614
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So, like I knew the situation last year,

615
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 4: starting quarterback goes down, you know how to really the

616
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 4: year you want. And I know how hungry this team

617
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 4: is to win, And like I see everybody's eyes like

618
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 4: so I know, we just ready to hit the ground running.

619
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 4: In whatever way I can help to put us at

620
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 4: an advantage against our opposing team, then that's what That's

621
00:26:58,880 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 4: what I'm gonna do.

622
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,239
Speaker 3: Man, we enjoyed the Max.

623
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 4: I appreciate that, and we look we look forward to it.

624
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: We really do.

625
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 3: Like Mania Sports said, we had Max targeted for a while. Man,

626
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 3: they took him in the second round.

627
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: I could see why.

628
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 3: Yep, Max Melton rookie corner. We continue with a big

629
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 3: red rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert.

630
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: Touchdown Marvin Harrison Junior marvelous Marvelous.

631
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 3: Harrison Murray backing up close into the end zone, pulled

632
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 3: in by Wilson for a touchdown.

633
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: Wanna throw by Tyler Murray.

634
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 3: Facing pressure twenty five twenty angles outside the numbers of

635
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 3: the ten, five dives into the end zone, touchdown, Bret

636
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 3: Dorch thirty eight yard catch and run, Chicago. You just

637
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 3: got dorched. Maybe this year we'll go with Dorch rhymes

638
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 3: with scorch. Hmm, what do you think about that one bolt?

639
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, Paully, but that really was a good

640
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: call by you right there in Chicago.

641
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 3: And Greg Dorsch finally finally got his opportunities, got his targets,

642
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 3: and man did he make the most of them down

643
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 3: the stretch last season. Gained some confidence from his quarterback,

644
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 3: No doubt. He was a regular target at Kyler Murray.

645
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 3: He made a lot of big time first down catches,

646
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 3: made a lot of guys miss. And I think that

647
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 3: is the big question for this offense. What happens when

648
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 3: you significantly improved the passing game, because there is room

649
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 3: for improvement. We know where the Cardinals ended up in

650
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 3: the run game last year top five and okay, what

651
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 3: happens when you had wide receiver one foreshadowing because Marvin

652
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 3: Harrison Junior met the media today. It is the Big

653
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 3: Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are

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Speaker 3: santan Ford Paul calvic Ron Wolfley special thanks to Max Melton,

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Speaker 3: who was outstanding. You know what, his his his scatteryport.

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Speaker 3: By the way, I had written this down coming out

657
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Speaker 3: of college. They said he had a frenetic he's a

658
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Speaker 3: frenetic interview. Yes he is, fully, I mean he had

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Speaker 3: done everything tat. I mean, that was a really entertaining

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Speaker 3: interview right there. And yeah, I think we're all bullish

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Speaker 3: on Max Melton, but he's been getting better because he's

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Speaker 3: been going against Marvin Harrison.

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Speaker 1: You, yeah, no doubt about that. That is going to

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Speaker 1: be a good education right there, good experience for him.

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Speaker 1: Once again, Can I just say right now, eleven personnel

666
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Speaker 1: is going to be really really important to the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: and run down situation. This is this is what every

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Speaker 1: team in the NFL strives for. Eleven personnel, one back,

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Speaker 1: one tight end, three wide receivers and Paul, if you

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Speaker 1: can actually line up and run the ball and throw

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Speaker 1: the ball out of eleven personnel and run down situation

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Speaker 1: first and ten second and one to six, that means

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Speaker 1: you're balanced. That means you're balanced, and many many teams

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Speaker 1: use eleven personnel in run down situations. Man, if you

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Speaker 1: can do that, and this is why it's so important

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Speaker 1: that McBride continue to grow as that stud tight end

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Speaker 1: where you can line him up on the hip of

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Speaker 1: a tackle and he can fire off the ball and

679
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Speaker 1: remove the edge, remove the edge, drive him off the ball.

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Speaker 1: It's so important for the gap of course, gap integrity

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Speaker 1: across the board that you've got a tight end who

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Speaker 1: can do that. Trey McBride can do that. And it's

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Speaker 1: so important that third wide receiver that you're gonna bring in,

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Speaker 1: and that's gonna be Greg Dorch, It's gonna be Greg

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Speaker 1: dort I think it's gonna be Greg. Could be Say Jones,

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Speaker 1: of course would be Chris Moore. They've got some really

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Speaker 1: good options there. Who that number three wide receiver could be.

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Speaker 1: But right now, based on what I'm seeing Greg Dortch,

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Speaker 1: he's Wes Welker with some some size a little bit more.

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Speaker 3: What's interesting, too, is when Marvin Harrison Junior was drafted,

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Speaker 3: Trey McBride was on stage at the Cardinals draft party

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Speaker 3: here at State from Stadium out on the Great Lawn

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Speaker 3: and he smiled, he said, you know what, that's outstanding

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Speaker 3: because if he takes away some of that double coverage,

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Speaker 3: that I saw the second of last year. All that's

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Speaker 3: even better, you know. So speaking to Marvin Harrison Junior,

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Speaker 3: our Darren urban Azycardinals dot Com had a holy can

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Speaker 3: only stat in today's story, did you realize Ron Molfley?

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Speaker 3: Since two thousand and three, there have been twenty eight

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Speaker 3: wide receivers taking top ten in the draft. How many

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Speaker 3: would you say had a thousand yards receiving their rookie

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Speaker 3: year the rookie year two? Six?

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Speaker 1: Okay, six? Wow?

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Speaker 3: But there have been four the last four years, Justin Jefferson,

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Speaker 3: Jamar Chase, Jalen Waddle, Garrett Wilson okay so.

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Speaker 1: And in an era in the NFL where you throw

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Speaker 1: the ball a lot.

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Speaker 3: A lot and they're seventeen games. So to get a

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Speaker 3: thousand yards and you play all seventeen, you average about

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Speaker 3: sixty yards a game. Speaking the numbers, here's Marvin Irrison

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Speaker 3: Junior with the media earlier today, asked about his individual goals.

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Speaker 7: Everybody has individual goals, but you know here it's team first.

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Speaker 7: So you know, whatever my goals may be, all try

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Speaker 7: to put the team ahead of me. They brought me

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Speaker 7: here to win, so obviously that's my goals to win.

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Speaker 7: Help this team win from football games, so I can

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Speaker 7: hear that one individual, which you guys, is help the

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Speaker 7: team win.

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Speaker 3: By the way, he's asked if he wanted to play

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Speaker 3: in the preseason, he said yes, doesn't know if he will,

721
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Speaker 3: but he wants to get those reps in a preseason game. Now,

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Speaker 3: my own theory is I have no idea, no inside knowledge.

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Speaker 3: But let's just say they go to Indianapolis and he

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Speaker 3: balls out in those joint practices. Yeah, I don't think

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Speaker 3: he's seeing the field in the last two games.

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Speaker 1: That's just me. Maybe not. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: How equipped do you think he would be if he

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Speaker 3: didn't play in the preseason, because that tends to be

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Speaker 3: the normal with a lot of teams.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Paully, I think he would be very, very equipped

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Speaker 1: to get ready to go. I really do believe that.

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Speaker 1: And the only reason why I say that is because

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Speaker 1: of all the work that I've already put in in

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Speaker 1: the OTAs of course, all the work that they're putting

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Speaker 1: in for the training camp right now. I think his dad,

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Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison Senior, I think is going to help him

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Speaker 1: assimilate quickly and probably already has. I think Marvin Harrison

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Speaker 1: Junior is really ahead of the curb right now. Having

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Speaker 1: said all of that, PAULI, I'd play him in every game.

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Speaker 1: Really yeah, I'd play him in every game. I don't care. Hey,

741
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Speaker 1: three reps, get out there and do it. Four reps.

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Speaker 1: That's four more reps than what you had last week.

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Speaker 1: There's that's five more if we play him five reps

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Speaker 1: in the last preseason game, I think you ought to

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Speaker 1: go out there and play rookies. Heck, yeah, I don't

746
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Speaker 1: care who he is.

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Speaker 3: Well, we know the importance getting that chemistry with your quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Here's Kyler Murray on what he's seen so far out

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Speaker 3: of the number four pick.

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Speaker 5: Overall, I just think the natural ability, you know, I

751
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Speaker 5: think you just watch them. You know, you can watch

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Speaker 5: them until when a guy's got it. He's got it,

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Speaker 5: and he definitely has.

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Speaker 3: It, I'll say, in watching him every day of practice. Yeah,

755
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Speaker 3: those who do it the best make it look easy.

756
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Speaker 3: He just makes it look effortless. He catches the ball

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Speaker 3: with such ease. He's a big man, but he runs

758
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Speaker 3: routes like a smaller receiver. That was the word on

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Speaker 3: him coming out. He's in and out of his breaks.

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Speaker 3: I mean, even today in a low tempo type practice.

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Speaker 3: You could see some of the shake and bake. He

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Speaker 3: sort of practiced some of his after the catch moves,

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Speaker 3: and it really is intriguing.

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Speaker 1: What's coming, you know what I speaking of that? What's coming, Polly.

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Speaker 1: What I'd really like to see here is Kyler Murray

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Speaker 1: of course, and Marvin Harrison Junior with the back shoulder fade.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to see them just rep that, rep that,

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Speaker 1: and rep that out. It's unguardable. It really is. To me.

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Speaker 1: When you've got a guy who's got some verticality, as

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Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison Junior does, a guy who can get down

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Speaker 1: the field, get some speed, and then Kyler Murray how

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Speaker 1: accurate he is in terms of throwing the football. That

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Speaker 1: back shoulder is indefensible when it's done right. Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: has been doing it four years.

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Speaker 3: You know the instance because it happened right in front

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Speaker 3: of me last season. End of the season, Niners came

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Speaker 3: to State Farm Stadium here and Brock Purty and Deebo

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Speaker 3: Samuel for a touchdown the near pylon and Antonio Hamilton

779
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Speaker 3: was all over Deebo Samuel. But that passes on the

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Speaker 3: money back shoulder, you have no chance doesn't matter. By

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Speaker 3: the way, Greg Dorch getting back to him. Jonathan Gannon

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Speaker 3: add something to say about Dorsch is the slot receiver

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Speaker 3: and just the sort of jump he's taken since last season.

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Speaker 8: He's worked on his game. There's some things that Drew Terrell,

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Speaker 8: the receiver coach, Drew pet saying, the coordinator, obviously, we're like,

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Speaker 8: here's you want to take your game to the next level. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: of course I do. All right, here's what you need

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Speaker 8: to do to take your game to the next level.

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Speaker 8: And he's took that to heart, and he's shown it

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Speaker 8: in OTA's and he's showing it now. So the look

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Speaker 8: in his eye gives me confidence, you know what.

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Speaker 1: I love that. Butley just want had jump in here.

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Speaker 1: I love that because again, you've got Marvin Harrison Junior.

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Speaker 1: He's got some verticality to him, does he not? And

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Speaker 1: then you got Michael Wilson over here, He's got some

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Speaker 1: real verticality. And then you've got Dorch. You got Greg Dorch,

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Speaker 1: and he's running all this quick little stuff in the

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Speaker 1: slot and his burst is unbelievable and his competitive fire

799
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Speaker 1: is massive. I absolutely love watching him practice and the

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Speaker 1: look on his face one will even come off the

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Speaker 1: field and get to the sideline. This is not a

802
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Speaker 1: party for him. This is business. You talk about all ball,

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Speaker 1: Greg Dortsch is all ball.

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Speaker 3: We've said it before, I'll say it again. When you

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Speaker 3: exist on the edge of a roster for the first

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Speaker 3: three to four years of your career, you play with

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Speaker 3: an edge.

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Speaker 4: You know that better.

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Speaker 3: And you knew that you had to treat camp practice

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Speaker 3: in August like it was a regular season game.

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Speaker 1: You hear, we go. And that's much to the chagrin

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Speaker 1: of many coaches, isn't that right?

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Speaker 3: Next, Saban and so I defy you, especially last year

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Speaker 3: when Dorsch with a new coaching staff. His intensity in

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Speaker 3: camp last year, Yeah, was exactly the same intensity you

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Speaker 3: would see on game day in the regular season.

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Speaker 4: He's the same dude.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's how he earned the praise and the

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Speaker 3: respect of his head coach. Right there, And I agree

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Speaker 3: with you. If Trey McBride and Marvin Harrison Junior and

821
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Speaker 3: Michael Wilson are stretching that defense, and that's a big

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Speaker 3: if because the Cardinals have been subjected to that too

823
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Speaker 3: high shell for a few years now. They got to

824
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Speaker 3: get beyond that. But if you can do that and

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Speaker 3: stretch that defense and then maybe they're trying to load

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Speaker 3: the box stop James Connor. There's that whole underneath game

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Speaker 3: that you saw on the highlight that we came in

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Speaker 3: with that happened at Chicago. He caught that ball about

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Speaker 3: ten yards in the seam, yep and made guys look

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Speaker 3: stupid thirty eight yards into the NFL.

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Speaker 1: It is what he's capable of doing, Paully. And you know,

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Speaker 1: once again, it's gonna be very interesting to watch this

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Speaker 1: offense evolve and the personnel that they're going to use

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Speaker 1: as well.

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Speaker 3: Would you say Zay Jones has been a pleasant surprise

836
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Speaker 3: in this camp. Yeah, Zay Jones has flash to me.

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Speaker 3: How about you big guy as well? Six to two

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Speaker 3: hundred pounds. I mean he's made a lot of plays.

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Speaker 3: He's made catches in traffic, so I think you're at

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Speaker 3: least four deep and then after that, I mean the

841
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Speaker 3: competition is on for that fifth wide receiver spot. It

842
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Speaker 3: really is now our Paully picks can breakout player at camp.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for asking. Well, is Xavier Weaver the undrafted kid

844
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Speaker 3: out of Colorado who they actually gave a lot of

845
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Speaker 3: money as an undrafted gain.

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Speaker 1: And you just like saying his name.

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Speaker 3: Why Paul well Weaver the receiver. There we go, so

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Speaker 3: you know, just get to it. But he's made a lot,

849
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Speaker 2: it is ticked off.

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Speaker 4: It is Wilson again with a terrific.

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Speaker 3: Play screen for McKinnon, tackle Forbye absolutely ripped by mac Wilson.

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Speaker 4: It is an interception.

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Speaker 2: Wilson senior pitch play here as Hockman is buried.

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Speaker 3: What a play in the backfield by Mat Wilson. What

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Speaker 3: is a saxon mac Wilson fired there on the Blitzen

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Speaker 3: England played less than thirty percent of the snaps until

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Speaker 3: regular and then he went three straight games with a

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Speaker 3: sack in each game. Mac Wilson Senior are man of mystery?

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Speaker 3: Who are you? What are you in this defense? I'm

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Speaker 3: really intrigued to see how the Cardinals can utilize his

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Speaker 3: skill set because there are a lot of folks who

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Speaker 3: are really close to the Patriots who are really disappointed

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Speaker 3: to see him get away. It is the big red

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Speaker 3: the original Thursday Night Football. Paul calvic Ron Wolf Lay

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Speaker 3: Special thanks again around two rookie Max Melton joining us earlier.

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Speaker 3: So all right, we talked about the defensive secondary already,

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Speaker 3: let's talk about the front seven and Wolf. What do

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Speaker 3: you see as the role of Mack Wilson. Where is

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Speaker 3: his fit think going forward?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Paul, I think that is a question mark going

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Speaker 1: forward right now. I do believe he's going to be

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Speaker 1: the weak side inside linebacker. There was some speculation I

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Speaker 1: was telling you during OTAs, would you have Kayzer White

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Speaker 1: actually go to the weak side and move Mac Wilson

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Speaker 1: Senior over to the mike backer. That has not happened.

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Speaker 1: Of course, that is not the case. I wondered if

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Speaker 1: that was gonna happen. It did not. Kaizer White is

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Speaker 1: your Mike linebacker right now, and then you've got that

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Speaker 1: weak side inside right there with Mac Wilson, and I

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Speaker 1: think they're gonna move him around bally. I think he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be an X factor. We've had X factors here before.

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Speaker 1: But I think in ability only. I think we just

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Speaker 1: happened to look at a guy like an Isaiah Simmons

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Speaker 1: and say, well, they're gonna move him all over the

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Speaker 1: place and they're going to use him. And they did

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Speaker 1: as a matter of fact. But I think Mac Wilson

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Speaker 1: Senior actually might be better equipped to be moved all

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Speaker 1: over because mentally he understands what his role is and

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Speaker 1: what his assignment is regardless of where you put him.

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Speaker 3: You know, last time he met the media, he was

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Speaker 3: really confident in his past rush abilities, said he went

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Speaker 3: to Bill Belichick last year and said I can do this,

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Speaker 3: give me a shot after they had significant injuries, and

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Speaker 3: he showed that he could. So that's why I'm wondering

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Speaker 3: on third and obvious, some of those passing situations, if

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Speaker 3: he's that situational guy that comes off the edge, we'll see.

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Speaker 3: But to your point, he's going to be standing right

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Speaker 3: next to Kaiser White for the most part. And here's

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Speaker 3: Jonathan Gannon talking about his new tande met inside linebacker

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Speaker 3: Kaiser White and Mac Wilson senior.

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Speaker 8: Kaizer has, you know, football characters through the roof, so

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Speaker 8: does Mac. So those guys, you know, they kind of

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Speaker 8: see out eye on what needs to get done to win.

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Speaker 8: So it's been cool to see and that relationship will

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Speaker 8: keep growing, you know what I mean. And Max's really

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Speaker 8: been awesome, not just Kaizer, but the dvs and the

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Speaker 8: d line. He chops it up with everybody, the coaches,

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Speaker 8: the offense. So he was a great addition by MANI.

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Speaker 3: Here's the other thing that Cardinals defense when they lost

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Speaker 3: Kaiser White the final seven games last year. Yeah, you

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Speaker 3: realize the value in importance of the quarterback of your defense,

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Speaker 3: do you not.

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it, PAULI. That's really impacted the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals defense, not only in the running game, but also

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Speaker 1: of course in third and obvious pass situations. Kaizer was

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Speaker 1: out there all the time. Just an incredible talent. When

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Speaker 1: you can actually be out there all the time tangibly

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Speaker 1: physically be out there and be present and be making plays,

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Speaker 1: whether it was go line in short yardage or whether

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Speaker 1: it was third and obvious, you're out there on the field.

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Speaker 1: That just speaks to all the talent and ability that

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Speaker 1: Kaizer White has. Not only that, Paul. When you can

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Speaker 1: stick a guy out on the field like Kaizer White

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Speaker 1: who is like a coach on the field who totally

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Speaker 1: understands what is going on, makes the checks, makes the calls, man,

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Speaker 1: it helps so many other guys that are out there

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Speaker 1: on the field as well.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: So, see you're someone who's played the game, you know

942
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Speaker 3: that right after the sea he's an opener last year

943
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Speaker 3: against Washington and by the way, first quarter of the

944
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Speaker 3: first game, remember what he did against Sam House sending

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Speaker 3: the message after the game Buddha Baker race. Sam doesn't

946
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Speaker 3: remember it, but Budda Baker raved about Kaiser White making

947
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Speaker 3: the calls, getting the checks in. How valuable that is,

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Speaker 3: giving guys that little extra moment to be prepared and

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Speaker 3: what the offense is going to throw at him, and

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Speaker 3: then there's a coverability. You remember we had Kaiser White

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Speaker 3: on the Big Red Rage. He was a safety at

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Speaker 3: West Virginia. Now he's a Mike backer, Yeah, mac Wilson

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Speaker 3: Senior was one of the higher rated per the analytics

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Speaker 3: coverage linebackers. So, like you've talked about, these are two

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Speaker 3: guys who don't necessarily have to come off the field.

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Speaker 3: They can check a tight end or a running back

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Speaker 3: and that has been so key. In fact, I know

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Speaker 3: I might have lost my mind a little bit, but

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Speaker 3: I compared him to a poor man's Fred Warner and

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Speaker 3: Drake Greenlaw.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy.

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Speaker 3: Kaiser White met the media and he said he always

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Speaker 3: appreciated watching Wait for It, Patrick Willis and Navarro Bowman

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Speaker 3: worked together. So he said, that's the ceiling for the

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Speaker 3: two of them. And yes, that is a ceiling because

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Speaker 3: you're talking about two Hall of famers right there.

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Speaker 1: No unbelievable those two guys. I was no doubt about it, Bali.

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Speaker 1: But you know what again, I think it speaks to

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Speaker 1: the import just how important it is when you think

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Speaker 1: of Luke, Keikley and Robert Davis, right you think of

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Speaker 1: Tomas Davis. I'ms Davis. Sorry, you think of those two

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Speaker 1: guys right there? Are you kidding me? Man? What an

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Speaker 1: advantage that was to the Panthers when they were good

974
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Speaker 1: all of those years Because those two guys never had

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Speaker 1: to leave the field.

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Speaker 3: And you know what you also think about when Tampa

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Speaker 3: won the Super Bowl a few years ago with Tom Brady,

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Speaker 3: Devin White, Levante, David Right and I mean they were

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Speaker 3: the heart of that defense.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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