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Speaker 1: It's now officially open. This is Draft Season presented by Moody's.

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Speaker 1: I am John Schmelck, joined as always by Tony Paul Lean.

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Speaker 1: He covers the NFL and the Draft for essentially sports

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Speaker 1: dot com. Tony, hope you had a great Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: Man, it was fantastic.

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Speaker 3: I hope you had enjoyed it as well, and our

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Speaker 3: viewers enjoyed it. I mean basically the same routine for

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Speaker 3: me every Thanksgiving. I get up at like four o'clock

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Speaker 3: in the morning, I go out for a run at

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Speaker 3: four thirty, drive down to the city, go see the

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Speaker 3: Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade. Twenty ninth year in a row.

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Speaker 3: I've been down there, Absolutely love it. Come home and

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Speaker 3: we had about twenty people here till about eight nine

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Speaker 3: o'clock at night, a lot of fun. I hope it

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Speaker 3: was good for you as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a fun day, you know, just chasing

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Speaker 1: the kids around, saw a family, very good football games

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Speaker 1: on the NFL side, three very competitive games which were

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Speaker 1: fun to watch, which was good. And now the Ristmith

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Speaker 1: Tree is up in the living room, the Christmas music

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Speaker 1: presets are on the radio, and we are right into

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Speaker 1: Christmas season.

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Speaker 2: Baby, Yeah, I have a ladder with the Christmas presets.

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Speaker 3: My wife is upstairs unloading the department fifty six of

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Speaker 3: those little houses. We have our tree. It'll be up

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Speaker 3: probably Friday or say we get a live tree, so

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Speaker 3: Friday or Saturday. And my job is to put the

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Speaker 3: the decorations boxes up and put them back up in

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Speaker 3: the attic. Everything else I stay with them. I do

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Speaker 3: set up my trains. I love my trains, which drives

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Speaker 3: my wife not so it's good that I you know,

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Speaker 3: I get to watch my with My trains are Christmas,

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Speaker 3: and I drive my.

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Speaker 2: Wife a little bit. It's kind of a two for

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Speaker 1: Hold on, I need to dig into this. So she

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Speaker 1: is like a little Christmas village that she builds that,

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Speaker 1: that's fine. I'll my my sister does that. I have

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Speaker 1: like a Lego Christmas village whoe. Every year the Legos

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Speaker 1: we get one of those every year. We have that

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Speaker 1: built on the mantle. What are the trains? Tell me

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Speaker 3: Well, we have a couple of them. Actually, we have

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Speaker 3: a very large Department fifty six set up with the houses.

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Speaker 3: And I have an h an Ho set, a smaller

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Speaker 3: I got a plastic battery operated Disney train, which is cool.

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Speaker 3: Have the Linel Polar Express set, you know, and it's

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Speaker 3: There's the Polar Express that it goes around and I

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Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, we've got the trains go with the

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Speaker 3: Just a matter of you know, getting all the ducks

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, I just learned a lot about Tony Pauline.

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Speaker 1: I was not aware of the trains. I am very

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Speaker 1: excited to see the pictures of the trains. All Right,

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Speaker 1: we got a busy show coming your way on draft

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Speaker 1: season today. It was just such a busy week in

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Speaker 1: college football and a busy week next week in college football.

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Speaker 1: Tony and I thought we really try to break down

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Speaker 1: some of the important draft prospect matchups and stuff that

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Speaker 1: happened in the games last week and rivalry weekend, and

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Speaker 1: we'll look ahead to the games in conference championship weekend

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Speaker 1: coming your way next week. And then next week's show,

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Speaker 1: we are gonna have a guest. We're gonna hope to

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Speaker 1: be joined by Drew Fabianic, who obviously runs the Senior Bowl. Now,

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Speaker 1: so we'll talk about invites going out in kind of

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Speaker 1: what the draft class looks like from his perspective. So, Tony,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about the rivalry games last week. Not as

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Speaker 1: you just felt like Texas was always the better team.

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Speaker 1: Watching the offense was just it looked more like watching

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Speaker 3: I think the scorer made it look closer than it

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Speaker 3: And you know I agree with you. Number one, Texas

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Speaker 3: They couldn't stop arch Manning. Now Manning wasn't phenomenal. On fourteenth,

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Speaker 2: But he made big plays. He made the plays when

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Speaker 3: On third down, when when they got to the red zone,

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Speaker 3: And you know, compared to where he is now versus

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Speaker 3: by the way, and.

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Speaker 1: By the way, he should be. You know, he's a

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Speaker 1: And I think that's good and it's funny. I wanted

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Speaker 1: to talk to you about Arch because I think we

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Speaker 1: haven't talked about him in a while. Nick Tice, who

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Speaker 1: He said that if Arch Manning comes out, he would

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Speaker 1: still pick him as a number one quarterback in the draft.

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Speaker 1: Lastyon was because of his talent. Dan Orlofski has said

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Speaker 1: Compared to what he showed the first half of the year.

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Speaker 3: I would be shocked if he enters the draft. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you look at what his two buncles did. You look

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Speaker 3: at where his game is. Yeah, he's got great physical skill,

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Speaker 3: but he also still tends to stare down the primary target.

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Speaker 3: He's slow going through his progressions. You know, there are

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Speaker 3: where does he end up? Well, it depends on what

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Speaker 3: other quarterbacks enter the draft. I'm told Dante Moore is

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Speaker 3: I see a team taking him in the top twelve, Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: And we will talk a little more about Frinando Mendoza

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Speaker 1: if your sources are correct, and those three quarterbacks Dante Moore,

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Speaker 1: Ty Simpson, and Arch Manning all go back. And by

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Speaker 1: to be to be totally frank, neither one of them

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Speaker 3: And I'm pretty confident about more. It's multiple sources as

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Speaker 3: That are from multiple people, you know, and Leonora Sellers

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Speaker 3: The conversation really hasn't started yet. But there's another one.

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Speaker 3: And as we said on the show, you know, I

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Speaker 3: but he's got to go to a different college.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll talk about some of the coaching movements

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Speaker 1: somewhere in college football. All right, Tony. Some other players

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Speaker 1: for Texas on offense that really made a mark for

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Speaker 2: Jack Injuries.

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Speaker 3: We talked about him after Week one, after the Ohio

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Speaker 1: You know, you mentioned Wisner And it's funny. He gets

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Speaker 1: That's right. And now for Texas A and M Casey

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Speaker 3: Well special teams. Is you know what he did? It

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Speaker 1: All right, let's stick in the sec the Alabama and

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Speaker 3: which we'll talk about later on. This was their ball

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Speaker 3: wasn't great, but he didn't make any mistakes. He protected

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Speaker 2: He did what was necessary.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he was sort of like what Archie Manning did,

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Speaker 3: that game. You know, it wasn't a great performance, but

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the other season for him, you can

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Speaker 3: To you, Tony, Yeah, Deontay lost, and we talk about

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Speaker 1: All right, let's jump over to I can't believe I'm

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Speaker 2: Well, starting to grow on me.

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Speaker 3: You know, I kind of like kept him at arden's

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Speaker 2: But the Iowa game was solid. But the guy makes

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Speaker 3: Now, I think it's gonna be it's gonna be harder

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Speaker 3: But the guy who's really starting to grow on me, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, Tony, this wasn't on your rundown. So I'm putting

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Speaker 3: I believe he tore an achilles your tour a new

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Speaker 3: But Oregon's offense hasn't hasn't missed a beat. And that's

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Speaker 2: At worst, he's.

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Speaker 1: And Tony one of the players you wanted to mention

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Drew as a party, the right tackle from Washington.

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Speaker 1: And Tony to one of the players I want to

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, I want to know on tour of

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Speaker 1: for the draft, and his last performance two catches, just

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Speaker 1: twenty two yards, and again his season kind of ended

437
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Speaker 1: on a little bit of a win. I'm here, Tony.

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Speaker 1: Another injury issue and he has not had a big

439
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Speaker 1: game in quite a while.

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Speaker 3: Spent more time on the sidelines than he did on

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Speaker 3: the field. And I watched that game because of the

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Speaker 3: two the couple of dbs at Arizona. We talked about

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Speaker 3: the safety Genesis Smith and Stokes the cornerback. It was

444
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Speaker 3: the other cornerback, Michael Dansby, who really played well. But again,

445
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Speaker 3: you know that's the concern with Jordan Tyson. He was

446
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Speaker 3: injured last year, missed the college football playoff game in

447
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Speaker 3: Arizona State when they almost beat Texas.

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Speaker 2: He's been injured so much this year. And again, I know.

449
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Speaker 3: You like him, and a lot of people like him.

450
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Speaker 3: He's not really big, he's not super fast. He's a

451
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Speaker 3: real good pass catcher. But when you get a guy

452
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Speaker 3: that's not that big that's got these constant injury issues,

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Speaker 3: that's a major red flag heading.

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Speaker 2: Towards the draft.

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Speaker 1: Now. Look, and Tony, I'm with you. I think the

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Speaker 1: injuries are huge red flag and that that is gonnas

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Speaker 1: and change why I eventually have him ranked all right,

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Speaker 1: and I want touch on Ohios Day in Michigan real quick. Well,

459
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Speaker 1: howise they wins that game twenty seven to nine. Ryan

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Speaker 1: Day gets the monkey off of his back after more

461
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Speaker 1: than two thousand days since they beat them, and Carnal

462
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Speaker 1: Tate stepped up big time. So I want to stick

463
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Speaker 1: with the wide receiver team theme. Five catches six is

464
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Speaker 1: that eighty two yards? Eighty two yards and a touchdown?

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Speaker 1: And you know, I just thought he continues to play well.

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Speaker 1: I think he's very much in the wide receiver one

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Speaker 1: conversation in this year's draft class. In fact, if I

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Speaker 1: had the guest, I think he will be the first

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Speaker 1: wide receiver taken just because of the draft class. I

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Speaker 1: think he might end up going in the top ten.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure he's a top ten player, but he

472
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Speaker 1: might end up going there anyway. But Carnal Tait still was,

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Speaker 1: you know, four five games to go here in the

474
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Speaker 1: college football playoffs and the conference championship to kind of

475
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Speaker 1: show where he stands in this wide receiver hierarchy.

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Speaker 3: I think the interesting name with Cardinal Tate is we

477
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Speaker 3: know he's a good receiver. He's a terrific handcatcher. He

478
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Speaker 3: comes away with the contested, contested throw as he saw

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Speaker 3: even last year in the playoffs, he comes away with

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Speaker 3: the important receptions. Two on third to six, he'll make

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Speaker 3: a reception for eight yards. I think the interesting name

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Speaker 3: with carnal tit that we got a track and we

483
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Speaker 3: won't know what's label is is he going to test?

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Speaker 2: And how does he test? How fast is he in

485
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Speaker 2: the forty? How does he run the shuttles? What's his

486
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Speaker 2: ten split? Is he going to do any of that?

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Speaker 3: Because if he does it, and he does it well,

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Speaker 3: I think without a doubt he'll very likely be the

489
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Speaker 3: number one receiver in the draft. If he doesn't do it,

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Speaker 3: then we know there's probably he's not doing it because

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Speaker 3: he won't test it well and the marks won't be

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Speaker 3: that good.

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Speaker 1: Then again, and remind me, I don't think Jackson's with

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Speaker 1: Jigma did much testing either when he came out either,

495
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Speaker 1: right did he did? He just do pro Day?

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Speaker 3: But he did run the forty. I was actually at

497
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Speaker 3: that Proda. Yeah, he did ran like a four to

498
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Speaker 3: four eight. But the thing with Smith Njigba is you

499
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Speaker 3: were drafting him because he was such an exceptional route runner.

500
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Speaker 3: I mean, like I said, I was at that pro day.

501
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Speaker 3: He was cutting on a dime. He was catching everything.

502
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Speaker 3: You weren't drafting him for the downfield to be I'll

503
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Speaker 3: tell you the other guy, and it didn't show up

504
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Speaker 3: in the statue. But Max Claire again another big game

505
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Speaker 3: filed in a week ago. We talked about him when

506
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Speaker 3: the two Jeremiah Smith mc Cardinal Tate we're out with injury,

507
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Speaker 3: had five receptions for over one hundred yards, played really well,

508
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Speaker 3: had a couple of nice catches, but also the discipline

509
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Speaker 3: route running which opened things up for Jeremiah Smith McConnell tay.

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Speaker 3: I think Max Claire's really starting to tight end from

511
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Speaker 3: Ohio State's really starting to get in a good groove.

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Speaker 3: And you see why he was such a highly talented transfer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Antonio was trying to figure out what happens after

514
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Speaker 1: Jeremiah Love gets picked in this draft and who the

515
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Speaker 1: second running back is going to be and Justice Haynes.

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Speaker 1: You talked about Joa Coleman. He didn't do much. Justice

517
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Speaker 1: Haynes didn't play in this game due to injury. So

518
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Speaker 1: that number two running back spot is really wide open

519
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Speaker 1: up for grabs and you might not even see that

520
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Speaker 1: guy picked a round three.

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Speaker 3: Justin Hayes hasn't played and I believe in almost a

522
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Speaker 3: month because of the injury. So that is a major question.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm pulling up my boy, and I doubt

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Speaker 3: Justin Haynes enters the draft. I mean, he would be

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Speaker 3: kind of crazy to enter the drafts all of the

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Speaker 3: fact that he missed half the season or almost half

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Speaker 3: the season with injury. Jadarian Price, don't you dain is

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Speaker 3: he going to enter the draft? I mean, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's kind of a half season's work because he's playing

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Speaker 3: behind Jeremiah love I like kJ Allen from Kate tron

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Speaker 3: Allen from Penn State a lot, But again, Kate trevn Allen.

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Speaker 2: To your point, I'm looking at my board right now.

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Speaker 3: I have a third round greade on him, Jeremiah Love,

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Speaker 3: Jadarium Price, Justice Hayes on my top three backs. Of

535
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Speaker 3: those three, Jeremiah Lovell one to the draft, the other

536
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Speaker 3: two are questionable. The next guy is Kate tron Allen,

537
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Speaker 3: the big running back out of Penn State who's seven

538
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Speaker 3: a terrific season but projects as a third rounder.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, I will just since we're talking

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Speaker 1: running back here, Tony, I will take a collective bow

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Speaker 1: for the two of us if you listen to this

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Speaker 1: show the last two years. Both of us were huge

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Speaker 1: fans of Rutgers running back Kyle Mnungai, and he has

544
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Speaker 1: basically taken over a fifty to fifty time share with

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift in Chicago. The guy split the carries almost evenly.

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Speaker 1: Now he's averaging almost five yards per carry five hundred

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Speaker 1: and ninety one rushing yards. He's turned out to be

548
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Speaker 1: a really nice running back in the pros Man. It

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Speaker 1: shows you the testings, not everything at that position. If

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Speaker 1: you can run it, you can run it.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't really big, wasn't super fast or quick. Incredibly in

552
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Speaker 3: a very smart guy. I got to interview on before

553
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Speaker 3: the draft. He had offers to go to Ivy League

554
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Speaker 3: schools after his junior year at Rutgers. He had huge

555
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Speaker 3: nil offers, but he was loyal to Schiano. He was

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Speaker 3: loyal to Rutgers, and he's just a terrific football player

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Speaker 3: who gets it between the Ears.

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Speaker 1: couple more games here before we move on to the

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Speaker 1: college coaching carousel. Mammi Pittsburgh. Miami continues to roll. They

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Speaker 1: win thirty eight to seven. If they didn't mess up

564
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Speaker 1: those two games early in the year, they be lock

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Speaker 1: stock and two smoking barrels into the college football playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Right now, they are very much still on the fringe.

567
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Speaker 1: But you were how you are on a couple of

568
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Speaker 1: matchups up front with two very talented Mammy edge rushers

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Speaker 1: against a good Pittsburgh offensive tackle.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the last two games it was offensive tackle against

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Speaker 3: pass rushers, and in both instances the pass rushers.

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Speaker 2: Run one out.

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Speaker 3: Ryan Bear, who's slightly underrated, the athletic right tackle from Pittsburgh,

574
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Speaker 3: has not had a good year. He did not have

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Speaker 3: a good game against Miami. They were running circles around him.

576
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Speaker 3: Ruben Bain as well as the team messidor. I think

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Speaker 3: Bain had one and a half sacks, one and a

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Speaker 3: half tackles lost.

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Speaker 2: They had five quarterback hurries.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Bear is very indicative of what we see

581
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Speaker 3: from this tackle class going into the season with high expectations.

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Speaker 3: Kind of just late in eight was just he was

583
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Speaker 3: not good against Miami on Saturday. He did not live

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Speaker 3: up the expectations during the season. Should definitely consider going

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Speaker 3: back to school, all right.

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Speaker 1: And then finally in by the Way, Miami won that

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Speaker 1: game thirty eight to seven. And then in the Battle

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Speaker 1: of Illinois, Illinois defeats Northwestern twenty to thirteen. And you

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Speaker 1: and your eyes on Caleb Tiernan, a guy who've been

590
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Speaker 1: tracking all year going against gave jackas another guy that

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Speaker 1: we've had our eye on since our first episode.

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Speaker 3: You know, when we had Dame bruge leron and and

593
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Speaker 3: Dane was talking about how much he liked Tiernan, I questioned, Dane,

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Speaker 3: you know, do you think he can play left tackle

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Speaker 3: on Sunday? Because when I watched Tiernan, I saw him

596
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Speaker 3: as a right tackle, maybe a guard.

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Speaker 2: Dane thought for sure he could play left tackle.

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Speaker 3: If you watch this game, there's no way Caleb Tiernan

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Speaker 3: Northwestern is going to stay at left tackle on Sunday. Now,

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Speaker 3: the first time of the game was played in a

601
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Speaker 3: half inch snow on the field, But I mean Jacchus

602
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Speaker 3: just ran circles around him. Two and a half tackles, lost,

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Speaker 3: two sacks, two quarterback hurries. I mean it was basically

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Speaker 3: like the varsity playing against the JV Tiernan struggled getting

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Speaker 3: out of his stance. Couldn't just I think, really this

606
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Speaker 3: game is going to be a big blow to his

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Speaker 3: draft stock and especially those who question whether or not

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Speaker 3: he can stay at left tackle on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: All right, Tony, let's jump down to the coach. Actually,

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Speaker 1: one of the game I want to mention just because

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Speaker 1: it was stark when I looked at it. So I'm

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Speaker 1: looking at my list, I'm like, well, the Tony not

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Speaker 1: list Georgia Georgia Tech on his list here, and I'm

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Speaker 1: looking at it Georgia one sixteen time. And then I

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Speaker 1: started looking at the at the box score and the players,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, we've been doing this over a

617
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Speaker 1: long time, Tony, this might be the weakest Georgia draft

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Speaker 1: class that I And we'll talk more about him when

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Speaker 1: we do the Georgia Alabama game in the conference title game.

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Speaker 1: But man, there are not a lot of Georgia prospects

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Speaker 1: in this draft class that are gonna go in the

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Speaker 1: first or second round. And it's so odd we even

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Speaker 1: seen this in a long time.

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Speaker 3: Let's take that to the next step. Look at the

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Speaker 3: SEC as a whole, and we'll talk about that later

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Speaker 3: on when we talk about the coaching changes. I think

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Speaker 3: that Georgia is just a microcosm of the SEC this

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Speaker 3: year compared to previous years. In fact, it's funny, you know,

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Speaker 3: you bring that up. I had a reporter from the

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Speaker 3: Associated Press called me to interview me exactly about that,

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Speaker 3: the SEC being having a down year as far as

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Speaker 3: far as NFL prospects of concern, and Georgia that had,

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Speaker 3: you know, the past couple of years consistently had players

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Speaker 3: in the top ten, consistently had three four players selecting

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Speaker 3: the first round.

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Speaker 2: Are indicative or are the poster child for that?

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Speaker 1: No question about it. And again we'll talk more about

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Speaker 1: the SEC title game in a little bit, But first

639
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: toy the coaching carousel and a lot of jobs opened

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Speaker 1: up and jobs that are pretty good in big conferences.

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Speaker 1: And early in this process we saw, you know, James

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Speaker 1: Franklin went to Virginia Tech. We'll talk about that. We've

643
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Speaker 1: mentioned it before, but you've seen some of these programs

644
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Speaker 1: reach into some of the non Power five schools that

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Speaker 1: have had a lot of success, pull guys up or

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Speaker 1: at least even some you know, not teams that are

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Speaker 1: not traditional powerhouse programs, pull coaches from those programs that

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Speaker 1: have done well and make them their head.

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Speaker 3: Coaches, and it's it's kind of it doesn't always work out.

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Speaker 3: You look at Florida. They take John Sumroll of Tulane, Arkansas,

651
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Speaker 3: Ryan Silverfield of Memphis, Auburn, Alex Scholarsh of South Florida.

652
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 3: The South Florida coach has been terrific, really pulled that

653
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Speaker 3: program them out from the sewer, if you will, and

654
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 3: now they're in the in the bowl game. But you know,

655
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Speaker 3: flawarda try this with Billy Napier and it didn't work out.

656
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Speaker 3: They go to Tulane. Now you remember Auburn with Brian

657
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:15,239
Speaker 3: Harrison from Boise State didn't work out. So it's kind of,

658
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 3: you know, they hope to catch the lightning in a bottle.

659
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 3: But a lot of times when you get take these

660
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Speaker 3: coaches rather from non Power four or what used to

661
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 3: be Nonpower five conferences and make them your head coach,

662
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 3: a lot of risks there, as opposed to say maybe

663
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Speaker 3: taking an established coordinator. You see the success that Brett

664
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Speaker 3: Venables is finally having at Oklahoma, you know, and he

665
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 3: was such a terrific defensive forty in all those years

666
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Speaker 3: at Clemson. It's kind of interesting given the recent history

667
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Speaker 3: of going this route hasn't always worked out.

668
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it really hasn't. All have to see, you know,

669
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Speaker 1: everything just so different. The type of players you're recruiting

670
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Speaker 1: are different, how you go about the recruiting is different.

671
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Speaker 1: It's just it's a completely different world than these guys.

672
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Speaker 1: I'd be great, they might not be wolf d Wait

673
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Speaker 1: and see. Now we'll go to the big name guys

674
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Speaker 1: that went to the big name programs. We talked about

675
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Speaker 1: it a little bit already, James Franklin going to Virginia Tech.

676
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Speaker 1: Virginia Tech has been down for a while, Tony, and look,

677
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Speaker 1: see what're you talking about? James Franklin. The guy knows

678
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Speaker 1: how to win, win a lot of regular season college

679
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Speaker 1: football games, and he does it pretty consistently.

680
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Speaker 2: And they have some good young players on defense. They

681
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 2: got a couple of really good linebackers that we're going

682
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Speaker 2: to be talking about next year. And I think that

683
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Speaker 2: bringing in Franklin that early, what that does is he

684
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Speaker 2: gets them acquainted with those guys.

685
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Speaker 3: He gets them to consider coming back to Virginia Tech.

686
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Speaker 3: Because usually what happens is when there's a change in coaching,

687
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 3: especially these days, everybody you know, there's people enter the

688
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 3: transfer portal, signed big anil deals and go elsewhere. Because

689
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Speaker 3: that coach who was fired as the one who recruited him.

690
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Speaker 3: I think Franklin it gives when they hired him, gives

691
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Speaker 3: a Virginia Tech a head start to, you know, to

692
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Speaker 3: get the players that are there that he wants to

693
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Speaker 3: return pluses, he say, as Franklin set himself. He knows

694
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Speaker 3: that area, that recruiting area because he recruited it so

695
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 3: hard at Penn State and knowing the high schools, knowing

696
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Speaker 3: the high school coaches, having a relationship with them is

697
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Speaker 3: very important.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was a.

699
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Speaker 3: Terrific hire by Virginia Tech. I hope James Franklin does

700
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Speaker 3: very well there.

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Speaker 1: And then Michigan's say, I think they did as well

702
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Speaker 1: as you could have expected to. They've been really, really

703
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Speaker 1: down and they hire Pat Fitzgerald, who's the former Northwestern

704
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Speaker 1: head coach Tony and we all know what happened. He

705
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Speaker 1: ended up getting let go. There are allegations and stuff

706
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Speaker 1: like that, but for what I could tell, he's been

707
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Speaker 1: colmost completely exonerated from all of that, and I'm sure

708
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Speaker 1: Northwestern would like to have that back because he was

709
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Speaker 1: a don good coach for them, and I think Michigan

710
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Speaker 1: State is going to do well with him.

711
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Speaker 2: I think this is a home run Higher. I mean

712
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Speaker 2: no doubt about it. Yeah, First of all, he was

713
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Speaker 2: a tremendous coach.

714
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Speaker 3: Remember, Northwestern is like the IVY League of the Big Ten,

715
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Speaker 3: and you know they're not getting top football recruits. So

716
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Speaker 3: he had to basically do what he can to get

717
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Speaker 3: the most out of second tier recruits at Northwestern because

718
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Speaker 3: people are going there not to become NFL professionals, but

719
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Speaker 3: to get degrees in biology and nuclear science and things

720
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Speaker 3: like that. Now he goes to Michigan State, you know,

721
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Speaker 3: he's got to chip on his shoulder because of what

722
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Speaker 3: happened with Northwestern. You know, Michigan State is sick and

723
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Speaker 3: tired of being the redheaded step child in the state

724
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Speaker 3: of Michigan. With all success that Michigan has had, They're

725
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Speaker 3: gonna put money into Nil. They're gonna put more money

726
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Speaker 3: into getting players to transfer over. They got to prove

727
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Speaker 3: and winner at head coach. I thought this was a

728
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Speaker 3: home run higher by Michigan State. It may take a

729
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Speaker 3: couple of years, but watch out, they are going to

730
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Speaker 3: be in the end. They will be a competitor in

731
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Speaker 3: that conference.

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Speaker 1: I totally agree. And they have some money to throw

733
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Speaker 1: around there as well. And then finally we buried the

734
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Speaker 1: big one for last, lank Kiffin making the big announcement

735
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Speaker 1: over the weekend, after all the anticipation, he decides to

736
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Speaker 1: head to LSU.

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Speaker 3: Listen, I don't think lang Kiffin is a great head coach.

738
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Speaker 3: I don't think Key's a Nick Saban type. I know

739
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Speaker 3: LSU is kind of chasing chasing lightning here hoping that

740
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Speaker 3: they can you know, they got the best head coach

741
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Speaker 3: and that he can bring them back to prominence. When

742
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Speaker 3: I look at Mississippi, I thought the Mississippi team from

743
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Speaker 3: last year is better.

744
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Speaker 2: Than the one this year.

745
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Speaker 3: And you look at all the players that they had selected,

746
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Speaker 3: the players they had selected in the first round. Yet

747
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Speaker 3: they didn't get They didn't even play in the conference

748
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Speaker 3: title game, never mind playing the College Football Championship. Now

749
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Speaker 3: they'll be in the College Football College Roble playoffs. They'll

750
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Speaker 3: be in the College Football playoffs but again this year,

751
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Speaker 3: but again they're not.

752
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Speaker 2: In the conference title game.

753
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Speaker 3: And as I was alluding to before it is Mississippi

754
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 3: that much better of a team? Or is the SEC

755
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 3: is a conference down compared to what it was? Georgia

756
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Speaker 3: is not the same team it was a couple of

757
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Speaker 3: years ago. Obviously LSU is not is not close to

758
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Speaker 3: being what it was Florida forget about. You know, when

759
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Speaker 3: when I look at I'm looking at my top twenty board,

760
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Speaker 3: when it's usually maybe thirty SEC players, it's barely a

761
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Speaker 3: handful of SEC players that are in the top thirty

762
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Speaker 3: as far as NFL prospects, which tells me that while

763
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Speaker 3: Glenn kiffen de deserves credit for the success he had

764
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Speaker 3: at Mississippi this year, it's as much as the rest

765
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Speaker 3: of the conference being down as Mississippi being that much

766
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Speaker 3: better of a team. I don't know how he's gonna do.

767
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Speaker 3: He was a disaster at Tennessee. It was a disaster

768
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Speaker 3: at USC, It was a disaster with the Raiders. He

769
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Speaker 3: had good seasons at Mississippi. You got to give him

770
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Speaker 3: credit for that. I'm just not a fan of the

771
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Speaker 3: way he left. You leave a team that's gonna fight

772
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Speaker 3: for a national championship and then you start whining. He say, well,

773
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Speaker 3: the players wanted me to coach. I mean, you know, listen,

774
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 3: you're getting your twelve million dollars a year. Say thank you,

775
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 3: get on the plane and shut up and leave.

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Speaker 1: Strong words from Tony. I will say this. The fact

777
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Speaker 1: that these decisions have to be made now while like

778
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Speaker 1: the season is still going on, because the recruiting schedule

779
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: and you know, all that sort of stuff and the

780
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Speaker 1: transferport all that night no sense. It stinks like, I

781
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: don't know what you can do about it. But the

782
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: timing of this whole process is no good.

783
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 2: What can you do about it?

784
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Speaker 3: Because so you know, LSU was in competition with Florida,

785
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 3: and Florida finally back now and you know somebody's gonna

786
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 3: go there with with the with the open checkbook. And

787
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 3: you know, I don't begrudtulate the coaches for getting this

788
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 3: money because the coaches successful teams bring a lot of

789
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 3: money into colleges. I think I read that LSU football

790
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 3: had in one hundred and seven million dollars in revenue

791
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four. So you know, but what are

792
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 3: you gonna do? I mean, it's the wild wild West

793
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 3: now in college football. It's been like that with coaches.

794
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 3: It's not like that with players, but it's a billion

795
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Speaker 3: dollar industry.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and look link if and I'll basically have a

797
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: blank checks to write to try to get players to

798
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Speaker 1: come there for nil for LSU. So we'll see how

799
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Speaker 1: that goes down there in Louisiana. Draft Season is presented

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Speaker 1: Learn more at moodies dot com. All right, Tony, let's

803
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: look ahead to the conference championship games coming up this Saturday.

804
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Speaker 1: We're gonna start the Sun Belt. Well, James Madison Troy.

805
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Speaker 1: What do we got a big tone?

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Speaker 3: Well, you remember James. Remember James Madison has the top defense.

807
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Speaker 3: James Madison, whose coaches, by the way, Jesney is at

808
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 3: the East Coast. Guy is on his way to coaching

809
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 3: UCLA next year next season. Top defense in the Sun Belt.

810
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 3: In one of the really terrific defense against Troy. Why

811
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Speaker 3: if you watch the game. Roron Thomas, the receiver from

812
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 3: Troy last week against Southern Miss five receptions, one hundred

813
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 3: and eighteen yards. He was highly rated entering the twenty

814
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 3: twenty four season when he played for Georgia, gotten to

815
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 3: some off the field issues, was dismissed from the Georgia program,

816
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 3: did not play football in twenty twenty four, has come

817
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 3: back and is slowly getting it into gear at Troy.

818
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 3: You know, scouts in twenty twenty four liked him as

819
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 3: a potent to late Day three, a Day two pick.

820
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 3: He's now more of a Day three type of prospect.

821
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Speaker 3: But rob Rod Thomas, the receiver from Troy against that

822
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 3: tough James Madison defense is an NFL a next level

823
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 3: matchup to keep.

824
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Speaker 2: An eye on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Troy very quietly does actually produce a decent

826
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Speaker 1: number of NFL prospects, So definitely something to keep an

827
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Speaker 1: eye on down there. Giants. Osi Minuro, for example, was

828
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Speaker 1: a Troy graduate. Lawrence Tynes was a Troy graduate, So

829
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Speaker 1: they do have a lot of players that do come

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Speaker 1: out of there. Alright, let's go to the Big twelve

831
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Speaker 1: next Tony BYU Texas Tech, and we're gonna have some

832
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Speaker 1: good matchups between this Texas Tech defense and the offensive

833
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Speaker 1: line of BYU.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, we talk.

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Speaker 3: About David Baily, the Texas Tech pass rusher, the Stanford

836
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Speaker 3: transfer who's life very likely be a top fifteen pick.

837
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Speaker 3: They also have another pass rusher by the name of

838
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 3: Romelo Height, an undersize sort of stand up linebacker who

839
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 3: in college comes out comes out of a three point stance.

840
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,720
Speaker 3: Going against Bear Bachmeyer, the big two hundred and thirty

841
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 3: pounds back that wears number forty seven because he used

842
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 3: to be a linebacker that has got that BYU offense going.

843
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 3: That's gonna be an interesting matchup to watch. And then

844
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Speaker 3: Texas Tech has got some outstanding pass catchers that a

845
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 3: lot of people aren't gonna haven't been talking about their

846
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 3: day three type guys. Receiver Reggie Virgil, who came from

847
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,439
Speaker 3: I believe it was Ball State, is having a terrific year.

848
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 3: He's a smaller, sleek, quick guy that separates through his routes,

849
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 3: shows some decent deep speed. Caleb Douglas who's put up

850
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 3: big numbers in the past three years, more of your

851
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 3: possession type. And then Terrence Carter, the transfer from Louisiana

852
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 3: at the tight end. Very athletic guy, tough to miss

853
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 3: on the field. He gets downfield and creates mismatches. A

854
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,240
Speaker 3: real good pass catcher who also does a solid job blocking.

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Speaker 3: So keep your eye on Everybody talks about David Bailey, understandably,

856
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 3: so keep your eye on those Texas Tech pass catchers.

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Speaker 1: All right, now, let's jump to the sec tonal you mentioned.

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Speaker 1: We talk about the game Georgia and Alabama trying to

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Speaker 1: close this out here. We'll see how it goes.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting because you know, as you alluded to,

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Speaker 3: Georgia doesn't It's not the Georgia team of the past.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking at my board here, maybe one first rounder

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Speaker 3: in CJ.

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Speaker 2: Allen.

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Speaker 3: When I look at my board, it's Alabama heavy, especially

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Speaker 3: at the top. They've got the better players, They've got

867
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 3: the best prospects. I think what they've got to do

868
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 3: is what they haven't done the past two games. They

869
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 3: got to protect Ty Simpsons, and Simpson's got to be

870
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 3: able to get the ball to those dynamic receivers that

871
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 3: he has at his disposal.

872
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 2: Some of them have really helped themselves. We saw Isaiah

873
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 2: Horton in that Auburn game really come to life. We've

874
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 2: been waiting for him.

875
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 3: The receiver, Josh Quavid, I'm sorry, the tight end Josh

876
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 3: Quavis has played well as of recently. Georgia's got two

877
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 3: tight ends in Oscar delp and Lauren lost some lucky

878
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 3: that you got to keep an eye on. It's everybody's

879
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 3: going to talk about Ty Simpson and the irony is

880
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 3: unlike previous years. It's not just Georgia, it's also Alabama

881
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 3: that are not going to have those very early picks

882
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 3: that we are used too.

883
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's interesting to keep an eye and

884
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: we'll see how that goes. And then Tony. This is

885
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: really the big one this week, right, Indiana and Ohio State.

886
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: We we touched out Ohio State in Michigan briefly, but

887
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: this is a all right, Indiana, we think you're pretty good.

888
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: You have a good record. You beat Oregon right like

889
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: like you feel pretty good about you know, what they've done.

890
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: But let's see how you do against the big boys

891
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:23,959
Speaker 1: in Ohio State.

892
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 3: This game is not only going to decide the winner

893
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 3: of the Big Ten, likely the top seed in the

894
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 3: college football playoffs, It's likely to decide the Heisman Trophy.

895
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 3: When you consider Julian Sane against Fernando Mendoza. This is

896
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 3: a huge challenge for Fernando Mendoza. I mean, this is

897
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 3: he's playing, He's going up against an NFL defense. They

898
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 3: got NFL players and they'll be drafted early. They're coached

899
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 3: by a former NFL coach. This is what Fernando Mendoza

900
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 3: is going to be facing on Sundays, except he's going

901
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 3: to be doing it this Saturday, and there is a

902
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 3: lot riding on the line for him. Like I said,

903
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 3: you know, besides the high schoo trophy and seeing in

904
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 3: the college football playoffs. If Fernando Mendoza plays well, doesn't

905
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 3: have to win the game, but he's got to play well.

906
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 3: It's got to stay away from the mistakes. He's got

907
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 3: to move the change and show that he can move

908
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 3: Indiana down the field. He's got to react well to

909
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 3: the pressure as he did against Penn State. Then I

910
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 3: think not only is he a top three pick, then

911
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 3: I think the conversation turns to where a team trade

912
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 3: up to get him with the number one pick. With

913
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 3: the team trade up, you know, with the Tennessee Titans

914
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 3: to get Fernando Mendoza if he shows his medal against

915
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 3: Ohio State. Because the Ohio State defense is just that good.

916
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 3: I mean, early draft picks, a great coach, a great

917
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 3: defensive coordinator, and they just keep getting better and better,

918
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 3: and the Indiana offensive line is good, they're not great.

919
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 3: They've got some really good receivers, but they're not great receivers.

920
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 3: They got a solid running game, but it's not Jeremiah Love.

921
00:42:56,200 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 3: So it's basically Fernando Mendoza and how he uses the

922
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 3: players around him. Huge challenge and there's a lot at

923
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 3: stake here.

924
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, he really is in that house. The defense, Tony

925
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: is just so good, but in the endas defense is

926
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,720
Speaker 1: gonna be tested as well against some of the weapons

927
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: we talked about for the Buckeyes.

928
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 3: D'Angelo Pons, we talked about him. I think with ched

929
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 3: Reuder when Chad was on. You know, he's small, but

930
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 3: he's got terrific ball skills. He's feisty, he's instinctive, but

931
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 3: he's barely five to ten. I mean, he's probably five

932
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 3: nine and change. He's gonna be going up against sometimes

933
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 3: Carnell Tate, who goes over six foot, sometimes Jeremiah Smith,

934
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 3: who goes over six too. So I think that you know,

935
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,720
Speaker 3: Hans D'Angel Pons is gonna fight and he's gonna compete,

936
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 3: and he'll have his you know, he'll have his opportunities,

937
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 3: but he's also gonna be over MaTx by you know,

938
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,720
Speaker 3: three to four inches, depending on who he's playing against.

939
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 3: That's gonna be interesting the match up to watch. And again,

940
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 3: you know, I talked about Max Claire and I think

941
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 3: he's turning it on going up against Aiden Fisher, really

942
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 3: good linebacker, Day three prospect from Indiana. He's terrific in pursuit,

943
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 3: covers a lot of area, has shown a lot of

944
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 3: ability and coverage, gets great depth on his past drops.

945
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 3: He's not just an up the field type of guy.

946
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 3: You can see him downfield twenty yards off the line

947
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 3: of scrimmage, making plays from the balls against the air.

948
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 3: It's gonna be interesting to see how much House incorporates

949
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 3: Claire into the offense, especially with Smith and Tate being

950
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 3: a little bit nicked up, and how Aiden Fisher responds

951
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 3: with his coverage assignments Unclaire all.

952
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: Right, and then you have the defensive backs for Ohiose

953
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: day Tony who we've talked about, Caleb Downs a bunch.

954
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 1: You haven't talked about Davis and Agbinos in a ton

955
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: He another defensive pass interference penalty in that game last

956
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: week against Michigan, which he still is a thing for him,

957
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: but he had the big interception to close out the game,

958
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: rips out the helmet to celebrate, and he's they're gonna

959
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: go up against a couple of really good Indiana wide receivers.

960
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got Elijah Sharratt, who's your bigger possession wide out.

961
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 3: You may remember him from that Iowa game when it

962
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 3: was it was nip and talked. He caught a crossing

963
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 3: pattern five yards off the want of scrimmage to grow

964
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 3: up to tackle, went forty nine yards for the game

965
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 3: winning touchdown. And you got Omar Cooper who made that

966
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 3: sensational catch at the back of the end zone against

967
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 3: Penn State. Both of these guys are real good college

968
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 3: receivers who project well to the next level. They are

969
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 3: more third fourth round type guys, but they are favorites

970
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 3: of Fernando Mendoza. They are reliable, different types of games.

971
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 3: Sarat being more of your bigger, slower possession receiver, Cooper's faster,

972
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 3: Cooper's quicker. We'll see how Caleb Downs does if he's

973
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 3: putting coverage against him. One of the top players in

974
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 3: the draft, Igmund Nosen, You're right, got flagged for a

975
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,879
Speaker 3: penalty last week, but he's really cut it down because

976
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four he was a human yellow flag.

977
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 3: I mean they were constantly throwing penalty flags. Yes for Pi.

978
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 3: He's cut that down. He's played much better than he

979
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 3: did in twenty twenty four. It's gotten back into the

980
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 3: good graces NFL scouts. Big challenge for him to cover

981
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 3: sarat Or Cooper and not get called for a penalty.

982
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: Absolutely right. And then that OSU front Ohio state front man.

983
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: They are, they're really good. And Indiana's offensive line is

984
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 1: gonna have their hands full.

985
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,919
Speaker 3: And Yanna Jackson the defensive end who has been really

986
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 3: developing incredibly well the past year. Cayden Curry who took

987
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 3: over for Jack Sawyer, has had a great year. Arvel Reese,

988
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 3: who we've talked about awsome on this podcast.

989
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 2: No reason to talk about him anymore because he's going

990
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 2: to be an early pick.

991
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 3: Carter Smith, the left tackle for the Indiana really good

992
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 3: pass protective, fundamentally sound, does a great job. Doesn't blow

993
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 3: you away, but he's very efficient. Don't know whether he's

994
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 3: going to be a tackler or GUARDI he's only an

995
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 3: underclassman tackle or garden and the NFL, you know, like

996
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 3: Fernando Mendoz against the Ohio State defense like de'angelo Ponds

997
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 3: against the Ohio State receiver. This is a big test

998
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 3: for Corter Smith, who is considered a next level prospect

999
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 3: the left tackle for Indiana against that great Ohio State

1000
00:46:58,880 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 3: pass rush.

1001
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: A fun week of college football, Tony. Hope you enjoy

1002
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 1: it and we'll talk to you next week.

1003
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Speaker 2: Look forward to it.

1004
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Speaker 1: John, that is Tony Pauline. You can find all those

1005
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,120
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1006
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,560
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1007
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1008
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1009
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