WEBVTT - EPISODE 23: Draymond Green Part 1 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:07.040 Welcome to this week Uncut in the world NBA News. 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:18.000 Chris Haynes works time. It's some time. This ligun Cut 0:00:18.200 --> 0:00:24.640 is underway the fire. This should be a good one. Everybody. 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:29.520 Thanks for joining us for a very special edition of 0:00:29.760 --> 0:00:32.280 this League Uncut. We've got a special guest. But I 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:35.279 want to give a little build up first, staying here 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:41.159 with Chris Haynes. March twenty second, the Warriors came to Dallas, 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:45.080 and everybody kind of sees that as the protest game. 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:47.959 That what that's that's what that game is known for. 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:52.320 The Dallas Mavericks filed a protest over a play in 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:54.480 the third quarter protest and I but I don't want 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:56.160 to talk about all that because to me, the most 0:00:56.200 --> 0:00:59.360 important thing that happened was after the game, in the 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:03.800 hallway near the Warrior's locker room, I ran into a 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:08.399 famous podcaster named Draymond Green, and I made him a proposal, 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:12.480 and I said, how about we do a home and 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:17.080 home podcast where he comes on with Chris and I 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:20.480 and then eventually down the road we go on his 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:24.480 pod and face the music and take some questions about 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:26.720 the media that I'm sure he's been wanting to ask us. 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:30.920 For a while, and somehow, some way I convinced him 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:34.200 that this was a good idea. So welcome to this league, 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:38.040 uncut A hearty welcome to Draymond Green from the Golden 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:43.080 State Warriors. Siny. I appreciated my brother. I'm excited, Hayes, 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:47.080 thank you. Drey definitely got the short end of that 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:52.640 deal right there. I might get Executive of the Year 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:56.080 for that trade, because this pod needs him more than 0:01:56.120 --> 0:02:00.280 his pod needs us. Tell me about it. Try. I 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:03.080 appreciate you brought up for coming down, man. Absolutely, Man, No, 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:06.760 I'm excited. I'm excited. I you know, I don't. I 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:10.160 don't ever look at it that way. Obviously, UM, my 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:14.480 podcast has garnered a lot of attention, but I know 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:18.440 that attention is not possible without support, you know, and 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:22.160 that support from you guys in the media, that support 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:25.880 from the NBA. Um, you know, that's support obviously from 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:27.880 the fans and listeners. So I don't. I don't take 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:31.000 that for granted at all. And I never look at it, 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:34.160 um that way, although I know you are half joking, 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:38.200 but I never look at it that way. I see this, 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:41.120 you know, um, and I always speak about old media 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:45.799 and new media and The thing that I always think 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:49.280 is lost in translation is there there's a space for both. 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:53.840 And I think you know that's everyone always lose that 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:56.440 side of it. And so you know, like you guys know, 0:02:56.560 --> 0:03:01.000 I maintain a great relationship with you guys because I 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:04.919 I think it's totally necessary. And then now you hands 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:08.520 but Stiney, I love Stiney to death. That's understand, No 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:14.640 offense taken, No offense taken. I understand. Now I gotta 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:19.760 hype man, I needed to. Um, Well, let's just get 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:23.440 to it. Um. This is obviously the fourth time that 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:28.640 the Warriors have defended a championship. Where would you rank 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:32.680 it in terms of has this been the hardest title defense? 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:35.480 That's what it looks like to me as an outsider. 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:44.280 It's been the hardest UM title defense. And quite frankly, 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:50.040 I think, um, it's warranted. It's warranted in several ways. Uh. 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:51.720 You know, when you get when you get to a 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:55.760 space of like where we are, where we've won now 0:03:55.960 --> 0:04:02.920 four championships, that get between you and other guys, it 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:05.920 continues to grow and grow well with that gap. Growing 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:11.320 is also the experience or lack thereof, And I think 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:13.840 for us, where we've done this now, like you said 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:17.920 four times, for the vast majority of our group, this 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:23.720 is the first time and learning how to defend a 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:28.480 championship while growing into different roles. Like for instance, I'll 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:32.400 use Jonathan Cominga as an example. Jonathan Cominga is defending 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:37.039 his first championship. Jonathan Comminga is also growing as a 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:40.520 player and as an individual as a young man, you know, 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:43.960 learning how to play a role in the NBA, learning 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:46.560 the things that you need to do, get in consistent minutes, 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:49.920 whereas he didn't play consistent minutes last year. And so 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:54.960 there's a learning curve that comes with that, and I 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:58.040 think you know you've seen us be a product of 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:00.600 that learning curve. By no means that my saying our 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:03.080 season is Johnathan community as far, I hope no one 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:06.839 takes that that way. But there's a learning curve that 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:10.200 comes with learning how to defend the championship, and we've 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:14.760 experienced that a bit, Dreen. When you talk about defending 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:19.040 championships and this season being the hardest, I'm I'm talking 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:23.200 about you individually. Now when you look at your defensive run, 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:27.039 you know, tell me this, Dre. So I've always thought 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:31.360 about this, like when it's time for voters to put 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:33.360 in their ballots, when it's time for righters putting their 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:36.840 ballots for all defensive teams. Defense is always probably the 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:43.680 toughest award to try to, you know, get a CADID finalized, 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:48.279 because unlike points, you know, defense, there's not a stat 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:52.480 like so you got defensive, you got defensive rating, you 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:56.000 got team defensive ratings. But I think, Dre Marley, let 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:58.120 me know what you think about this. I think there 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:01.719 needs to be not an advanced analytic, but just a 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:05.680 regular analytics on a regular stat I should say, on 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:12.360 let's see what an opponent's field goal percentage is against Draymond. 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:16.960 Let's see how often Draymond can make them miss, make 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:20.560 them either pass the ball or turn. And that's an 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:22.720 easy stat you can, you know, because you know it's 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:26.240 it's hard to if you're not watching Warriors get out 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:28.040 of play. But if there's another team out there and 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:31.400 the player is dominant on a subpart team, a lot 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:33.960 of writers are voters are not watching that game, and 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:37.120 so they they can't tell if a guy's a good 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:41.040 defended because defense is not all about steals and blocks. Absolutely, 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:44.919 it's about shutting your man down like doing the best 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:48.240 to limit is um defense, but there's not a stat 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:50.480 for that. What is the best way for you? You 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:54.520 think that voters can look at that a defensive player 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:57.720 and try to judge on if he's good or not. 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:00.480 But I think, I think one of the things that 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:03.040 ends up happening and you kind of just hinted at it, 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:05.240 it's like if you're not watching, it's hard to gauge it, 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:09.239 you know, because like for instance, if you watch it, 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:14.440 or if you watch stats per se steals or blocks, 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:17.320 it doesn't always tell the story. Quite frankly, there are 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:19.920 a lot of terrible defenders that just play passing lays. 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:23.320 And so if you get steals, like are you're playing 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:25.760 a passing lain, how many all right, say you had 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:28.400 two steals, But how many backdoor cuts did you give up? 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:32.440 Or how many bad rotations did you forced? Because you're 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:35.120 playing a passinglain and I faked you and went the 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:37.400 other way and now you're on a position, And so 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:40.720 I think from that standpoint, it's always hard to gauge. 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:44.560 Another thing that makes those things hard to gauge is 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:48.960 this ninety percent of the time that my man run 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:50.880 into a pick and roll, the guy waves him away, 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:54.200 and now I have to go stand on the backside 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:57.040 or try to involve myself in the action some other 0:07:57.080 --> 0:07:59.840 way because they won't bring me into the pick and roll. 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:02.240 You know, they won't bring me into the action. It's 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:04.400 like if the coach go out out and draw up 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:09.720 an action, they're they're putting the guy who I'm guarding 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:12.080 away from the place, so I'm not in the action. 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:16.400 Like if you watch our game against the Thunder, the 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:18.960 most recent game against the Thunder, if you watch like 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:21.400 the last eight minutes of that game, I was switching 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:25.240 my matchup like every other possession because I knew what 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:26.920 they were trying to do. They were trying to get 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:29.440 certain defenders in the action, and they were trying to 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:31.440 figure out who I was guarding and didn't go away 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:34.040 from that. So I start switching my matchup like every 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:36.800 other possession to get involved, just to get involved in 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:40.880 the action. And so I do think at some point 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:44.839 if there was some stats or something that we can 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:49.160 come up with to quantify defense, it would be great, 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:53.520 like like people quantify points, you know, But it just 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:57.040 hasn't happened, and I try not to worry about it 0:08:57.080 --> 0:09:00.760 too much. But in the same token, I think it 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:05.040 is a bit unfair two defenders, because you don't necessarily 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:11.160 get that that notoriety or that thing that offensive player 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:13.600 may get just by scoring points and just by gett 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:16.000 an assist, because it's easy to just pick up the 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:23.559 sheet of paper and read the number. Maybe this is defense, 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:28.200 Maybe it's somewhere else. What do you do better at 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:30.760 thirty three than you did at twenty five, And what 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:33.360 do you wish you had from when you were twenty 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:38.880 five compared to now. I think something that I do 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:42.040 a lot better now is I used to overhelp so much. 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:45.960 I used to overhelp a ton, and you can kind 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:49.240 of take advantage of that. I would be on three 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:51.400 point shooters and I would still just go to help, 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:53.920 and three point shooters just sit out there and shoot 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:58.040 my eyeball out. And I had to learn that. And 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:00.360 that's something I would say over the last couple yours, 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:05.320 like Coach Kerry used to literally struggle to leave me 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:07.640 on a shooter and like try to get me off 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:10.800 a shooter because I would struggle with that, Like that 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:13.520 was an area that I would really struggle with. And 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:17.080 I took that as a challenge because it got to 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:19.280 a point to where I start feeling disrespected, a like 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:23.400 coach would say, well, we can't put Draymond on this guy. 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:26.240 And it's like that guy actually sucks, like he just 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:28.679 stands there and hope to catch the ball. What do 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:30.960 you mean you can't put me on that guy? And 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:33.200 so I took that as a little disrespect, and that 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:37.320 was something that I wanted to focus not disrespect literally, 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:40.000 but I wanted to focus on that and lock in 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:43.160 and be like, like, no, I can guard I can 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:46.880 guard anyone. And and for me, that was a challenge 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:49.520 from within to say, like you walk around and you say, man, 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:51.680 I can guard anyone. I can guard one through five, 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:54.840 and yet you can't guard the guy that stands there 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:57.880 and spot up. That's an issue. And so that was 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:01.680 something that I really took the heart and wanted to 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:06.200 be much better at, was just learning how to guard shooters, 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:09.199 because that was something that I just wasn't that good at. 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:15.080 And what would Professor Green's theory be to explain? Every 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:18.920 time I look, the Warriors are in the top five 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:23.240 defensively at home and the bottom five defensively on the road. 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:26.600 It's been all season usually like third and twenty eight, 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:30.440 and I don't have an explanation for it. Why is 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:36.320 this happening? Well, I think I think when I look 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:39.400 at it, I was saying this the other day to 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:44.720 a couple of close friends at home, and I think 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:48.120 over the last week or two, it's just started to 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:52.800 turn the corner, which is our offense. I felt like 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:58.000 our offense offense works in layers, especially our offense, like 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:02.959 at certain points throughout the season, you unlock certain layers 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:06.480 to your offense. And I felt like until maybe two 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:13.560 weeks ago, we were still on layer one, and and 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:19.640 being on layer one, what happens is the shots that 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:23.719 we're taking at home, maybe you know, there may be 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:28.360 a little questionable, and but you can overcome that at home, 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:31.880 you know, And and let's be let's be honest, you're 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:35.400 gonna hit more of those questionable shots at home than 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:38.439 you are when you're on the road. But only getting 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:41.720 into layer one of the offense will require you to 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:44.760 take a bunch of tough shots. Bell out shots as 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:46.839 what we like to call them. Yere Steph Curry to 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:49.480 Bell you out, Klay Thompson of bell you out, Jordan 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:51.559 Pool of bell you all the time. But on the 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:54.240 road those shots aren't going to go in at the 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:57.880 same rate as they do at home. Also, your margin 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:02.320 for error on the road is much slimmer than it 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:04.960 is at home. And so I think when you watch 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:10.520 this team in our offense until recently still being on 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:14.000 the first layer, I think a lot of times that 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:16.679 affected our defense in the major way, because now all 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:18.640 of a sudden, those shots don't go in. You're giving 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:22.960 up transition buckets because the floor is a balance on 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:25.679 top of those guys who are you're playing with now 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:30.360 on the road, they're shooting lights out, you know, as 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:33.319 opposed to when they're coming to your gym. Role players 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:36.040 don't technically shoot that well on the road or play 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:38.800 that well on the road. Now you go to their 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:42.880 home and those same shots they're knocking them down their money. 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:47.240 You couple that with turnovers and bad shot selection, which 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:49.520 we've been pretty too, and I think we've started to 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:52.360 get better at, and it makes it a lot tougher 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:55.680 for your defense to survive. Then what do you face. 0:13:55.840 --> 0:14:01.599 You face, You face bad body language, you face the 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:05.320 letdown you face you know, Uh, Now all of a sudden, 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:07.920 guys are feeling sorry for themselves, and you can't play 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:10.880 defense that way. You can't shut anyone down that way. 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:13.720 And I think it's been a mixture of those things 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:17.280 in our home and our way defense, Drey. You bring 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:21.200 up you know how body linguage gets down and start 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:23.720 to have your head down, and you know sometimes I 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:25.960 can affect play if you get in that position. So 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:27.800 I gotta bring this up because I had a front 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:30.680 row seat to this game, Drey. It was a game 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:33.960 you guys played the Pelicans. I believe it was last week, 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:37.640 and I have to so I'm working sidelines for that game, Drey, 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:39.760 I thought you was gonna get kicked out. I didn't 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:43.160 think you was gonna last you. I'm telling you right now, 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:45.960 if I can say what the stuff Dray Bard was 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:50.640 saying to those Pelicans that like that was a master cancer, 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:52.960 I can't. I can't say it. I can't say it. 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:56.360 Only Draken said if you wanted to. But I'm watching, 0:14:56.760 --> 0:15:00.640 I'm watching what he's saying to everybody, everybody on the Pelicans, 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:02.680 and I'm like, I'm looking over at the Pelicans to 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:06.800 see how they're gonna respond, and I'm being I'm being 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:11.520 dead serious with you, like nobody wanted to take it there. 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:15.520 You know you've seen it, and so the only thing 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:19.080 I'm concerned about, I'm like, because dray already picked up 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:21.520 a technical already, So I'm like, he's not making it 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:24.520 because Drey's still going. But I'm still looking. I'm looking. 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:26.400 I'm looking at Zion, I'm looking at everybody. I'm looking. 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:28.600 I'm like, who's gonna take that? Like, who's gonna take 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:31.760 it there? And nobody took it there? The game changed. 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:35.640 The game changed from that point on. And I kid 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:38.800 you not, Stein, I would not have predicted the outcome 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:41.080 to turn out the way that it did. But I 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:45.960 think Drey to your to your point, I think you 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:47.760 have I think that's what people don't see is that 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:50.840 I think people say that Drey loses is cool sometimes 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:53.160 And and I will on the radio a radio show 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:54.920 in the Bay Area the next day and I said, 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:57.120 a lot of times, y'all gotta give him more credit. 0:15:57.240 --> 0:15:59.920 There's a lot of he has a method to his madness. 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:03.080 Could you just talk me through, Like, when you get 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:05.480 in some of those I don't know what you would 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:07.160 call them, you know, I don't I don't know what 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:09.000 you would call those type of situations. But when you 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:12.080 get in that mode. What are you trying to accomplish 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:16.320 and what are you trying to see from the opposition. Well, 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:25.560 a few things. Number one is how they're going to 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:28.440 respond to you turning the pressure up against them, how 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:32.120 they're going to respond to you challenging them. And by 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:36.240 the way, it gets to a point of where I'm 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:39.040 challenging you at basketball or whatever else you want that 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:45.680 challenge to be in, I'm willing to go there. But 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:49.840 I think the thing that people often miss is the 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:54.960 challenge to my teammates, because just as much as I 0:16:55.040 --> 0:17:00.960 am challenging those guys in that situation, I'm possibly more 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:05.880 even more challenging to my teammates because a few things 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:08.600 has to happen, number one, and most importantly, you gotta 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:11.639 ride with me, because if you're not gonna ride with me, 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:14.840 then then it's over. It's off for nothing anyway, And 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:18.000 so number one, I need to see who's going to 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:22.960 ride with me. And I think oftentimes that gets lost 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:27.399 in all of it. I'm in that game and this 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:31.280 one in particular, and I'm like, yo, we're dead, like 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:37.680 we got nothing going, we have no energy. And like 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:39.359 a couple of times I went to the bench and 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:43.200 I'm like, yo, somebody brings some energy. Like someone said 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:44.959 to me on the bench, like, yo, Draymond, we need 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:47.919 you to bring like we need some energy. And I said, Yo, 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:50.520 it can't be me every night that gotta that gotta 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:53.320 just muster up the energy. Somebody else gotta bring some 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:56.840 energy at some point. That's one time out. Next time 0:17:56.920 --> 0:17:59.760 we go back to the time out and I'm like, yo, 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:04.320 like what's up man, Like somebody brings some energy, like 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:09.840 this is ridiculous, blah blah blah nothing. So now I'm like, 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:13.639 all right, this is the last resort. I gotta go 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:17.040 out here and like completely flip this game upside down 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:20.960 to see if we'll respond to that, because with that 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:23.440 being the last resort, if we don't respond to that, 0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:26.480 our seasons over anywhere. Like I felt like that game, 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:29.600 like we didn't win that game, that was it, Like 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:33.600 from not just from a numbers perspective, but from a 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:37.760 moral compass perspective. Emotionally, that was it. The scene was 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:41.359 done if we didn't win that game. And so for me, 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:45.920 I said, well, I'm going out here and I'm challenging everybody, 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:49.840 but even more than I'm going to challenge them I'm 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:56.879 challenging my guys. And when it happened, you could immediately see, Okay, 0:18:57.680 --> 0:19:01.720 I knew right away, guy was answering the bell. It 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:05.440 didn't quite change right away, like you know, stuff was 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:08.320 going bad and we needed to really like turn it. 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:11.880 But you can see the tie had turned. You could 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:16.520 see they were no longer big and bolstrious. How they 0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:19.120 were all of a sudden. The very next place, CJ 0:19:19.240 --> 0:19:20.920 get a wide open lay up at the rim and 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:24.480 throw it off the backboard right b I come in. 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:26.760 He get to this spot that he gets to and 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:30.120 he don't miss missed it badly, and so him like, oh, 0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:32.840 we got him. We turned the ball over a couple 0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:34.760 more times. They hit a couple of threes and it 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:38.280 got and it felt like, oh they responded. I knew 0:19:38.400 --> 0:19:40.359 right then, like, no, we turned it over. They got 0:19:40.400 --> 0:19:43.680 a couple of threes, they made them, but they hadn't responded. 0:19:44.040 --> 0:19:49.480 And so in that situation, I'm like, all right, like 0:19:49.640 --> 0:19:51.639 we got something. I walked into the locker room at 0:19:51.680 --> 0:19:53.960 halftime and I told our guys, I said, Yo, I'm 0:19:54.000 --> 0:19:58.320 just telling y'all these dudes quit. They quit already. They 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:00.320 just hit a couple of shots because we turn the 0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:04.040 ball over. So let's come out this high and I'm 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:06.920 coming out on that same thing. I'm coming out just 0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:09.520 the way I left, and let's go. We could go 0:20:09.640 --> 0:20:13.119 take this game. But I had told Dante Defencenzo in 0:20:13.280 --> 0:20:17.119 that instant. Dante was like, yo, man, we can't have 0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:20.959 you get kicked out. I said, Tay, where I am 0:20:21.119 --> 0:20:24.639 right now. I cannot flip back. I'm too inn it. 0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:29.840 I can't flip back. But I'm gonna tell you this day, 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:33.400 whether I'm in this game or I get thrown out 0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:37.159 of this game, this game is won. Whether I'm in 0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:39.680 it or not, we are going to win this game. 0:20:40.200 --> 0:20:43.320 I got the game right where I needed that. They're 0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:45.920 about to fold. So whether I get thrown out or 0:20:45.960 --> 0:20:49.439 not take we're gonna win this game. And that's how 0:20:49.520 --> 0:20:52.720 I felt. And so, like I said, to get back 0:20:52.760 --> 0:20:54.639 to your question, I know I explained a lot, but 0:20:55.400 --> 0:20:59.200 so many times people people can't see the game within 0:20:59.280 --> 0:21:01.840 the game. They don't understand the game within the game, 0:21:02.280 --> 0:21:05.000 and for me, I oftentimes have to play that game 0:21:05.040 --> 0:21:07.800 within the game, and it comes with backlish ship comes 0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:10.840 with people saying this and saying that, and quite frankly 0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:13.160 not understanding me. But if I spend all my time 0:21:13.440 --> 0:21:15.320 trying to get people to understand me, I missed the 0:21:15.359 --> 0:21:23.879 boat anyway, And when you talk about people that understand you, 0:21:24.119 --> 0:21:27.320 so I'm not gonna say I was in that boat. 0:21:27.400 --> 0:21:30.480 But when I came from Joy, I remember I was 0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:34.080 covering the cavaliers and I came over to cover you guys. 0:21:34.560 --> 0:21:37.280 I don't know if you remember this, Dre, but you 0:21:37.480 --> 0:21:40.240 was looking at me funny. Initially, at what point you 0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:42.560 saying something. You call me a spy for the came 0:21:43.200 --> 0:21:49.040 you call me a spine for the cat. I'm like, yo, yo, 0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:54.800 we're spying on us. Man. I know, but I remember, 0:21:54.880 --> 0:21:57.480 so I believe it's that first year I covered you guys, 0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:01.800 and you put on and to me, this is me 0:22:01.960 --> 0:22:06.119 covering the league twelve years now. That was the finest 0:22:06.920 --> 0:22:10.240 defensive years I've seen anybody play Individually. You end up 0:22:10.280 --> 0:22:13.359 winning your first defensive player the only defensive Player of 0:22:13.359 --> 0:22:16.440 the Year award, and I just see you in a 0:22:16.480 --> 0:22:19.119 new light, obviously being around you and seeing what you 0:22:19.280 --> 0:22:22.000 do and just seeing the like what you say. Like 0:22:22.960 --> 0:22:25.560 you know, there's times where teams called plays pick and 0:22:25.680 --> 0:22:29.199 role plays, but then they see you coming over. Now, 0:22:29.320 --> 0:22:31.480 We're not gonna no, we're not gonna use that action 0:22:31.480 --> 0:22:35.480 because the little things like that. So the disappointment that 0:22:35.640 --> 0:22:39.800 I that I sense when I'm talking to players or 0:22:39.920 --> 0:22:43.280 hearing players when I don't see I get disappointment when 0:22:43.280 --> 0:22:45.600 I don't hear them giving the same praise because they 0:22:45.680 --> 0:22:47.280 play this game. So you know, you got a lot 0:22:47.320 --> 0:22:51.280 of players out here that that you know, take Dylon Brooks. 0:22:51.320 --> 0:22:54.080 You know, Dillon Brooks said what he said, and you 0:22:54.160 --> 0:22:55.960 know there's other players foot that way. There's people that 0:22:56.320 --> 0:23:00.119 say Draymond wouldn't thrive and on another team, you know, 0:23:00.200 --> 0:23:03.400 he's only right for this team. Like when you hear 0:23:03.520 --> 0:23:07.479 that stuff like does that get like from your peers? 0:23:08.320 --> 0:23:11.400 Does does that bother you? And then secondly the second 0:23:11.480 --> 0:23:14.879 question of that dre after Dyllan Brooks said all that stuff. 0:23:15.080 --> 0:23:16.600 I don't know if you saw this, but there was 0:23:16.640 --> 0:23:20.280 a quote from him when he got drafted he wanted 0:23:20.320 --> 0:23:27.359 to beat unless you have the floor, Unless you have 0:23:27.480 --> 0:23:30.840 the floor. Do I get upset or does it get 0:23:30.960 --> 0:23:33.520 under my scan when people say that? No, because I 0:23:33.680 --> 0:23:37.280 also understand that eighty percent of my peers don't even 0:23:37.359 --> 0:23:41.359 understand the game of basketball. Um and and So you know, 0:23:41.480 --> 0:23:44.480 I've said numerous times, you got guys in the NBA 0:23:44.640 --> 0:23:47.840 that don't know how to play um, which I do 0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:50.439 not understand and will never understand that. You always hear 0:23:50.480 --> 0:23:52.560 that guys don't know the plays. How do you not 0:23:52.720 --> 0:23:55.640 know the plays? Well, they know the plays because you've 0:23:55.800 --> 0:23:57.800