WEBVTT - 6 Degrees of Ray J (with Keith Johnson)

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<v Speaker 1>If the money was right, would y'all do a BT

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<v Speaker 1>comic view set?

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<v Speaker 2>If the money was wrong?

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<v Speaker 3>If the money is wrong, you love it that much

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<v Speaker 3>that you're like, Nah, I'll go do it tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>I need seven dollars. I get seven minutes to yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>just to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, damn. I think I would do it out of

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<v Speaker 3>ego more than out of genuine belief that I would

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<v Speaker 3>do well enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. I don't think it's going to like take

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<v Speaker 2>my career to the next level or anything like that,

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<v Speaker 2>more than I would even kill. But you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>gotta do it.

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<v Speaker 3>I if they offered it, I think I do fine,

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't think that I'd be like j sliding

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<v Speaker 3>his dick, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Same set that chips in your.

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<v Speaker 4>Qualitys are racists. The money turkey stuff, I can't tell me.

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<v Speaker 2>But did it did that.

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<v Speaker 5>That?

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<v Speaker 3>Dude?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Ye yay.

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<v Speaker 2>There it is.

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<v Speaker 6>There.

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<v Speaker 2>It is ladies.

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<v Speaker 3>And gentlemen, gentiles and little mamas alike.

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<v Speaker 2>There it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told.

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<v Speaker 2>Me, the podcast where we dive deep into the pockets

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<v Speaker 2>of black conspiracy theories and.

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<v Speaker 3>We finally work to prove that what Will Smith is

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<v Speaker 3>experiencing is in fact a lingering curse from the dark

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<v Speaker 3>skinned and bim that bitch play on him some some

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<v Speaker 3>thirty years years ago for the bullshit he was proving,

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<v Speaker 3>and all of this is the fallout from that curse.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know they've made up.

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<v Speaker 3>I know they squashed the beef in a public sense,

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<v Speaker 3>but what she fucking felt all those years ago, for

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<v Speaker 3>the way that she that he played her, that's a

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<v Speaker 3>curse that can't be lifted, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>That ain't that ain't going nowhere. Just because y'all hugged

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<v Speaker 3>on HBO Max, I'm Lnston Kerrman.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm David Bori, and I would argue what he was

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<v Speaker 2>experiencing was that Dwayne Martin, he was murdering his ship.

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<v Speaker 2>He was like, I don't even like that ship, but

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<v Speaker 2>he was.

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<v Speaker 7>He was like, bro, just as a fan of the game,

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<v Speaker 7>a fan of backshit as a profession, that Nigga was

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<v Speaker 7>killing him.

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<v Speaker 8>I couldn't believe that was what because you know Twitter

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<v Speaker 8>or Twitter gives you just the phrase, and it was

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<v Speaker 8>like he was he was killing him as like a

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<v Speaker 8>trending topic.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, all right, this is gonna get sad.

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<v Speaker 3>This is gonna be a fucking like something related to

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<v Speaker 3>evil in Palestine right now, Like it's gonna be some

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<v Speaker 3>ugly shit, And instead it was just the greatest video

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<v Speaker 3>that could be out right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I get it though, because I've just you've seen like

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<v Speaker 2>animals before, you'd be like, God, damn, I'm just killing

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<v Speaker 2>that Yeah, that's a that's a wild dome.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, that dog ain't got no home training.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank god, they're outside.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's what I'll say, And we have to introduce our guests,

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<v Speaker 3>and frankly, if you want to jump, and you're more

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<v Speaker 3>than welcome. We realize that this is a this is

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<v Speaker 3>a trendy topic to leave you just waiting on. But

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<v Speaker 3>I will say, I will say that it makes me

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<v Speaker 3>sad if if true, And obviously there's there's plenty of

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<v Speaker 3>reason to believe that this is just made up from

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<v Speaker 3>a toxic man upset about losing his relationship with Will Smith.

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<v Speaker 3>But if true, I will say, it breaks my heart

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<v Speaker 3>that they don't get to kill each other in a public,

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<v Speaker 3>safe way, that they can't truly be honest about the

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<v Speaker 3>relationship that they obviously had.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you think Will Smith was trying to kill as

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<v Speaker 2>well as be killed. No, no, no, I don't think he's switching.

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<v Speaker 3>I think if will Smith gets killed like that, he

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<v Speaker 3>just stays killed like that. But I'm saying I wish

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<v Speaker 3>that their partnership could be honest out in the world

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<v Speaker 3>and not just something that an assistant would walk in

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<v Speaker 3>on and then say on a sad podcast. Do you think, Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think you can clap cheeks the way he

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<v Speaker 3>described it, and and anyone is unaware there was due

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<v Speaker 3>to a season thrown all over the walls, the floor,

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<v Speaker 3>the ceiling in a stunt.

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<v Speaker 6>That's that's the smell of passion.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you get nobody supposed to be here.

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<v Speaker 3>We Oh, I just want I just want them to

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<v Speaker 3>be in love, man, I really do.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think love was what was going on in there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Man.

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<v Speaker 3>Killing this ship our guest today to bring you Sorry, sorry, bro,

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<v Speaker 3>this is I cannot. I wish I could tell you

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<v Speaker 3>that this was a unique experience, and you are this

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<v Speaker 3>was some sort of personal thing to you.

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<v Speaker 2>It is not.

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<v Speaker 3>We rarely set anybody up for a comfortable entrance.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a problem.

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<v Speaker 3>It's we just be talking and then we and then

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<v Speaker 3>afterwards we're like, damn, whoo, all right, well this has

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<v Speaker 3>nothing to do with with this very funny person we've

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<v Speaker 3>asked to be here, but here we are. Our guest

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<v Speaker 3>today is so fucking funny.

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<v Speaker 2>He's great.

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<v Speaker 3>You know him from Comedy Central. You know him, and

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<v Speaker 3>this is important. This is a little bit of of

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<v Speaker 3>of I can what is it?

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<v Speaker 2>I can agraphy? What's the word that? That's it?

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<v Speaker 3>This nigga's an icon right now and not getting enough

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<v Speaker 3>credit for it. He is the first, as far as

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<v Speaker 3>I know, the first black beard in history. Stars in

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<v Speaker 3>a Postmates commercial proving it documented.

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<v Speaker 2>Ain't no, ain't been no black black Beard before.

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<v Speaker 3>This, nigga.

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<v Speaker 5>Give it up for our guest, mister Keith Johnson.

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<v Speaker 1>You want me to say the line? Yes, oh we

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<v Speaker 1>go be pilligent. We gonna be pilligent people all the time.

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<v Speaker 9>Man, I got it.

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<v Speaker 6>Up.

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<v Speaker 2>There There are two real black icons. Man. All that

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<v Speaker 2>was Big Dog. He had a run.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I met him one time. Really he wasn't interested.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, damn.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah no, He's like, I'm not gonna talk to you

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<v Speaker 2>about that. No, I just I didn't even say anything

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<v Speaker 2>about all Start. We were recording in the same studio

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<v Speaker 2>because that's where he does them. Yeah, but he can

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<v Speaker 2>see in your eyes you wanted it too.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you didn't respect him the way he wants to

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<v Speaker 3>be respected.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I was too much respect.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you think this was like overwhelming?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? And he had just hopped out of a Porsche.

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<v Speaker 2>I was leaving in an uber.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I got.

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<v Speaker 2>Keith. Yeah, man, man.

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<v Speaker 6>I caught up on the Will Smith news.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I came in kind of blind to it,

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<v Speaker 1>and now I'm seeing it.

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<v Speaker 6>No, you didn't you do that? And I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 6>but it makes sense. It does make sense, And I think.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why he played Yeah, he played quiet for so

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<v Speaker 1>long because he got secrets.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Jada, I believe Today a video came out of

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<v Speaker 3>Jada leaving a building and a paparazzi person asking her

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<v Speaker 3>what you what do you think of these these allegations whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>and she stops in the street and says, suing, we

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<v Speaker 3>were suing or suing that shit or some shit like

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<v Speaker 3>truly is like being vocally like what the fuck?

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<v Speaker 2>That's all of it? Yeah, that was crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know it was going to reach this level.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought you didn't think it was going to reach

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<v Speaker 2>this level.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I you know what, they for years never paid

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<v Speaker 3>attention to anything anyone said about them. It used to

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<v Speaker 3>be that they ignored everything, which is how they kept

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<v Speaker 3>their problems so quiet. And then the post table, red

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<v Speaker 3>table talk era they transformed into now we will address

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<v Speaker 3>every single rumor about us, and I didn't. I'm still

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<v Speaker 3>not used to that with them. I thought maybe they

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<v Speaker 3>would just ignore it like they had when they were

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<v Speaker 3>true fucking powerhouse people in the industry.

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<v Speaker 6>Now they're messy bitches who loved drawing. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a weird energy that shifted and that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeh man.

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<v Speaker 3>Fuck were you a Will Smith guy?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, big Willie style.

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<v Speaker 1>I bumped the I bumped the Men in Black album,

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<v Speaker 1>Watch all the movies Fresh Prince. I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a conspiracy theory, but I think the two

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<v Speaker 1>black archetypes in Hollywood right now are It's either you're

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<v Speaker 1>a Will Smith guy you know you got the jeans

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<v Speaker 1>with the big Jordan's on, or you're a Kanye guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah so you have you had. These are the two,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, cultural icons that we followed.

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<v Speaker 2>So damn, yeah, damn, that's heartbreaking. The two.

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<v Speaker 6>We're done.

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck yeah, you're not wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>I definitely. I mean I rode for them separately but

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<v Speaker 3>equally at various points in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>We have I would say, I don't even feel like

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<v Speaker 2>I rode for Will Smith because it was such a

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<v Speaker 2>given right. Does that make sense? Like people, when people

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<v Speaker 2>would be like, I'm a Will Smith man, I'd be like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>shut up, loser, every good. I remember I had a

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<v Speaker 2>teacher in eighth grade and she was like, I Will

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<v Speaker 2>Smith and he doesn't cut in his wraps. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, shut up, bitch, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Because it was just like it was so ingrained in

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<v Speaker 2>the culture that you didn't even have to like acknowledge it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>He just was for such a specific era. He was

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<v Speaker 3>such a defining type of cool that like I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know that I'll ever undo from my head, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean. Like he was the coolest motherfucker on

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<v Speaker 3>the plane my brain, and and that can't be fixed.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I still watch them old episodes, I'd be like

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<v Speaker 3>this nigga cool man, God damn things, just fucking cool.

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<v Speaker 2>He was cool. But here's the problem for me. He

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<v Speaker 2>was so cool that I felt like such the other

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<v Speaker 2>that I never related to gotcha. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>He was so cool. It was past being aspirational, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, Like, I'm a Jeffrey guy from

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<v Speaker 2>that guy.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I in my head and I think this

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<v Speaker 3>is probably the ego of comedians and people who want

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<v Speaker 3>to be fucking stars like us.

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<v Speaker 5>I think I did think I could be that cool someday.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I didn't think I was at the time.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I understood my place. But I was like, nah,

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<v Speaker 3>if I if I get a few things together, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean yeah, like if you got the right team. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>in my brain, I was like, nah, I get next Summers,

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<v Speaker 2>Like if I get an agent. If I get an agent,

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<v Speaker 2>I can have Dwayne Martin.

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<v Speaker 6>It's just me.

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<v Speaker 1>The moment I realized Will Smith was cool was it

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<v Speaker 1>was the I think it was a pilot episode and

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<v Speaker 1>he sat down at the piano and he had his

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<v Speaker 1>tux seed on with the Georgia and he started playing

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<v Speaker 1>for at least and You're like, yo, he got gears, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>he got depth that was like black depth that we've

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<v Speaker 1>never seen before. You know, he could play the piano too.

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<v Speaker 1>He taking him for granted.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, yeah, we could just rap man man. Yeah

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<v Speaker 2>he had it. Yeah, this is hard, this is they

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<v Speaker 2>ain't got it no more.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna have Will Smith apologies just like we had

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<v Speaker 1>like the older generation had, oh like Bill Cosby, Like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't do it, he didn't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna be like, well, he's complicated, he's heard. It

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<v Speaker 2>pumps me out that Dwayne Martin was doing. But you

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<v Speaker 2>think he could have gone. I'm not against Dwayne.

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<v Speaker 3>You think he was lowering his I think I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think he could have gotten somebody a little more.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember what a rising start doing, ain't Martin was when

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<v Speaker 3>they began their relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true, Like he had what he only had a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of basketball movies at that point, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think I think he seemed like a dude probably,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, on the fucking way right.

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<v Speaker 2>Right above the rim just came out. You know what.

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<v Speaker 3>It reminds me of remember in the in the the

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<v Speaker 3>fucking Jordan doc that the Bulls doc that they just did.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember on the bus when Michael Jordan's listening to the

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<v Speaker 3>music and he's.

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<v Speaker 2>Dancing like this.

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<v Speaker 3>Forget he's just doing this ship first time and then

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<v Speaker 3>and it's like, Michael, what are you listening to He says, huh, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>it's that new Kenny.

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<v Speaker 2>No, wait, no, it'smore but it's that new Kenny Lettimore.

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<v Speaker 3>And everybody's like, oh ship Kenny, let him Moore, he

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<v Speaker 3>got the new thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It ain't even out yet, and nobody gives a fuck about.

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<v Speaker 3>Kenny Lattimore anymore, you know what I mean. But at

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<v Speaker 3>the time Michael Jordan was fucking getting new Kenny.

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<v Speaker 2>Latimore doing that weird dance. I realized we never seen

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Jordan dance, like for real. Yes, we're there, right right,

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<v Speaker 2>right right? He always Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>When did he When do you think he like shifted

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<v Speaker 1>to becoming like a bad dresser.

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<v Speaker 2>I think as soon as he got any modicum of

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<v Speaker 2>control over his dress, Yeah, I agree? Does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I think when he was in the height of it,

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<v Speaker 2>he had no he was not picking clothes or designs

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<v Speaker 2>or anything. I think as soon as like he could

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<v Speaker 2>pick the jeans, I think yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And I also I think it was that in that

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<v Speaker 3>it became a shift between Nike and the Jordan brand

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<v Speaker 3>being tethered together and Nike and the Jordan brand separating.

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<v Speaker 3>Right right after the separation, Nike stopped having control, and

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<v Speaker 3>he's just a dude in charge. So he's like, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't need a fucking stylist. I'm not paying for a

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<v Speaker 3>fucking stylist. I'll dress myself. I'm the goddamn CEO. And

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<v Speaker 3>them jeans got so thick.

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<v Speaker 2>You remember how ambitious, You remember how how ambitious Jordan

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<v Speaker 2>Brand was in the early odds. Yeah, I was watching

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<v Speaker 2>an episode of King and Queen's the other day and

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<v Speaker 2>the black dude was wearing a Jordan turtleneck and jeans,

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<v Speaker 2>and you were like, whoa, we thought he could give

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<v Speaker 2>us that, like a turtleneck.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he became Republican.

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<v Speaker 6>That's when it shifted.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's like, you know what, Yeah, come on, baby, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he became Republican after that first championship I was.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he was like, oh I didn't I ain't

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<v Speaker 3>got to care about nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think it was after the first check. Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>You think immediately in the NBA he was like, fuck

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<v Speaker 3>these niggas back home.

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<v Speaker 2>I think so. You never he doesn't have like even

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<v Speaker 2>to his credit, even Will Smith has like a Charlie

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<v Speaker 2>Mac you know what I mean, friends, friends from Philadelphia.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't hear about nobody hanging out with Jordan from

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<v Speaker 2>North Carolina. That's true.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got he's got an older brother that does not

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<v Speaker 3>seem to come around that often.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got an older brother who said he who can hoop?

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently he said he was better than him. Never never

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<v Speaker 2>hear about that guy, Larry, right, Larry Jordan.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe so, yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I believe it's Larry lj and his son. You know

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<v Speaker 6>his son doesn't.

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<v Speaker 3>J Yeah, No, yeah, his son doesn't. His kids don't

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<v Speaker 3>really fuck with him like that, which is too bad

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<v Speaker 3>because huge guy man.

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<v Speaker 2>The father figure.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh boy, imagine your dad being so awful that you

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<v Speaker 3>that you go to Larsa Pippen now and say, let's

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<v Speaker 3>make something happen to hear, baby.

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<v Speaker 2>How unstable was like that? That's that's the that's the

0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:08.600
<v Speaker 2>grounding force, baby, I'm ready to build. Yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 2>this is the most stable. You're the most stable person

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<v Speaker 2>in my life.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I gotta stop fucking around and focus.

0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:20.080
<v Speaker 2>I've known you since since you came to my fifth

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<v Speaker 2>birthday party. Because she must have been there, right, No,

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<v Speaker 2>they got married late.

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<v Speaker 3>Though, No, apparently she used the babysitter.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Okay, so that does part of me is like

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<v Speaker 2>that's pretty cool, like just like initial feeling.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, See, this is where I disagree with you,

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<v Speaker 3>and I know what you're doing. I know what you're

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<v Speaker 3>about to do. You're you're heading in the direction of

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<v Speaker 3>sort of saying that like we anybody who can fuck

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<v Speaker 3>their babysitter, hats off, kudos.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, I think a lot of people fuck

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<v Speaker 2>their babysitter and it's a huge bummer, okay because of

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<v Speaker 2>sexual assault.

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<v Speaker 5>But sure, okay, I get it, Jimmy, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying that he hung out in the pocket and

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<v Speaker 2>came back and got it the game, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Like call that Drake Lyric, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess where I start to worry is at the

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<v Speaker 3>end of the day. This is still in that long game.

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<v Speaker 3>You are watching her have a full relationship with Scottie

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<v Speaker 3>Pippen and then lose that full relationship, lose his marriage

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<v Speaker 3>because she fucked future which that.

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<v Speaker 2>And then went on.

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<v Speaker 3>Reality television show, not even a successful reality television show,

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<v Speaker 3>to go be a problem elsewhere, like you've seen a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of bad shit, to then be like I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>marry this lady. Fuck guys, this went very dark immediately.

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<v Speaker 2>Problem is because we started with him killing that ship.

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<v Speaker 2>Where were we gonna go?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, But Keith, you came to us with

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<v Speaker 3>a conspiracy that that at least will cause more problem.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think this is all.

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<v Speaker 3>This is has the potential to be a positive episode,

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<v Speaker 3>a rare, just uplifting, beautiful episode, because you said, my

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<v Speaker 3>mama told me.

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<v Speaker 2>Ray J is the guy I find out of culture.

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<v Speaker 6>He started it.

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<v Speaker 1>All All things go to ray J, and there's a

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<v Speaker 1>connecting line and in every I wish I had my

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<v Speaker 1>map with the red strings to connect the dots to

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<v Speaker 1>show y'all.

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<v Speaker 6>But he's there, he's president. I remember when.

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<v Speaker 1>We were at I was at the house, David, we

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<v Speaker 1>were watching, uh, what's that channel?

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<v Speaker 6>We were watching Zeus?

0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:52.199
<v Speaker 2>Oh Zeus?

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<v Speaker 6>And you're like, you know who owns this?

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<v Speaker 2>Good?

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<v Speaker 3>Good for you for calling it a channel.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even think they have have the right.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's like legal ramifications for them referring to

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<v Speaker 3>themselves as a channel.

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<v Speaker 1>The Anthrew Bachelor, King Batch, ray J Enterprise. That's that's

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<v Speaker 1>a big deal.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Wait, is King is King Batcher a dual owner

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<v Speaker 3>inside of this, him and j Fellas.

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<v Speaker 6>I did not know that.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew. I knew Rag he had East, I.

0:21:38.800 --> 0:21:42.080
<v Speaker 3>Knew ray J was was an owner. But King Batch

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<v Speaker 3>being an owner of that is fucking that's a that's

0:21:46.040 --> 0:21:47.280
<v Speaker 3>a surprise twist for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's keep spaying. Yeah, I went to school with him. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>whoa who So that's how you knew. Yeah, it's hard

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<v Speaker 1>for me to call around. I can't call you are

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Bachelor. I'll say this. I respect his commitment to

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<v Speaker 1>the brand. There's been a lot of reasons for him

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<v Speaker 1>at some point to stop referring to himself as King Batch,

0:22:15.280 --> 0:22:18.800
<v Speaker 1>and he's been like not, that's that's the that's what

0:22:18.880 --> 0:22:19.320
<v Speaker 1>I picked.

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<v Speaker 6>Heavy is the crown.

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<v Speaker 3>Heavy is the burger king Crown. So so all things

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<v Speaker 3>point to ray J. A tell us where this started

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<v Speaker 3>for you? I mean, like I said, the breakdown of

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<v Speaker 3>cultural icons.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, you got Will Smith, you got Kanye if you

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<v Speaker 1>look on the right side, you got Kanye West, who

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<v Speaker 1>married Kim Kardashian, Right who started you know Kim Kardashian's career.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the inside information that I have. I used to

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<v Speaker 1>work for the Kardashians, rumor is that we that the

0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:06.439
<v Speaker 1>mom went to the went to Buna Murray and was like,

0:23:06.480 --> 0:23:08.479
<v Speaker 1>we need to make this. We got the tape, we

0:23:08.560 --> 0:23:10.359
<v Speaker 1>need to we need to flip it into a show.

0:23:10.760 --> 0:23:14.000
<v Speaker 1>And then that was the beginning. Sure, wait she went

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<v Speaker 1>to the production company. Yeah, man, that's what Joyn Martin

0:23:19.840 --> 0:23:20.600
<v Speaker 1>should have done.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but all right, yeah yeah, I just want them

0:23:25.880 --> 0:23:27.080
<v Speaker 3>living out loud, even.

0:23:30.119 --> 0:23:30.840
<v Speaker 2>If it's messy.

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<v Speaker 6>You want to watch it.

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<v Speaker 3>Come on, man, I want to see them cheeks get murdered.

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<v Speaker 2>For real. Here's here's my question. Do you think because

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<v Speaker 2>ray J is the godfather of culture, do you think

0:23:43.920 --> 0:23:48.040
<v Speaker 2>he was picked for that specific task of being the

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<v Speaker 2>one to roll out Kim Kardashian.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, Golden child.

0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:54.639
<v Speaker 2>Well, like she had seen him and she was like,

0:23:54.680 --> 0:23:57.160
<v Speaker 2>I've seen a lot of other people, but this guy

0:23:57.600 --> 0:23:59.400
<v Speaker 2>seems to be the guy who could get us over

0:23:59.480 --> 0:24:02.200
<v Speaker 2>the hump. Because what's that right? Right, that's a good

0:24:02.240 --> 0:24:04.760
<v Speaker 2>that's a good question. Who are her previous boyfriend?

0:24:04.840 --> 0:24:05.000
<v Speaker 9>Though?

0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:09.800
<v Speaker 1>It was like Nick Cannon, it was christ Like they

0:24:09.800 --> 0:24:10.800
<v Speaker 1>didn't have the sauce.

0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:11.480
<v Speaker 6>They didn't have that.

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<v Speaker 1>Like. The thing about is he has the dark side

0:24:14.920 --> 0:24:17.280
<v Speaker 1>of him, which is what allows him to be like,

0:24:17.320 --> 0:24:20.120
<v Speaker 1>you know what, the black community will be fine if

0:24:20.160 --> 0:24:22.320
<v Speaker 1>we put out zeus there. We're not gonna be hurt

0:24:22.359 --> 0:24:24.400
<v Speaker 1>by it, even though it is going to be damaging

0:24:24.440 --> 0:24:26.600
<v Speaker 1>to us. So he has that, he has that like

0:24:26.720 --> 0:24:30.399
<v Speaker 1>villain thing where you're like, it's yeah, it's not sorry,

0:24:30.560 --> 0:24:33.560
<v Speaker 1>but you're gonna like did the world change because of

0:24:33.640 --> 0:24:34.359
<v Speaker 1>Kim Kardashian?

0:24:34.480 --> 0:24:35.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I I hum. You know what's weird about ray

0:24:39.560 --> 0:24:42.160
<v Speaker 3>J is I to your point about him turning it off.

0:24:42.520 --> 0:24:47.359
<v Speaker 3>I truly think that the most terrifyingly powerful people on

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<v Speaker 3>this planet are people who don't have to move with

0:24:50.320 --> 0:24:53.919
<v Speaker 3>any fear of repercussions, and I think that he is

0:24:53.960 --> 0:24:57.520
<v Speaker 3>an example of one of those individuals. Donald Trump is

0:24:57.520 --> 0:25:00.480
<v Speaker 3>another who sort of moves in that same way where

0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:04.879
<v Speaker 3>it's just like, bro, whatever's in you it, it doesn't

0:25:04.920 --> 0:25:09.919
<v Speaker 3>fear anything like some I'm afraid of so many things

0:25:09.960 --> 0:25:11.280
<v Speaker 3>that could happen to me, and ray.

0:25:11.240 --> 0:25:11.919
<v Speaker 5>J is not.

0:25:12.480 --> 0:25:15.399
<v Speaker 2>And you see it all the time when he's moving,

0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:17.919
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean? Rey J moves like he

0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:21.800
<v Speaker 2>assumes he's gonna live forever. I've been I was excited

0:25:21.840 --> 0:25:23.800
<v Speaker 2>that you brought this up because like, this is a

0:25:23.840 --> 0:25:28.159
<v Speaker 2>conversation I've had with so many people like that, just

0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:31.840
<v Speaker 2>like I think about how many times you've had that talk,

0:25:32.200 --> 0:25:35.800
<v Speaker 2>where like I just known I probably had that conversation

0:25:35.840 --> 0:25:36.879
<v Speaker 2>with ten different dudes.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what's funny is like people make fun of

0:25:40.400 --> 0:25:44.159
<v Speaker 3>ray J, or had historically made fun of ray J

0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:46.560
<v Speaker 3>a lot. But I actually think that was much more

0:25:46.600 --> 0:25:49.840
<v Speaker 3>of like a white thing than it was a black thing.

0:25:50.280 --> 0:25:53.560
<v Speaker 3>Like I think niggas were more like, now I know

0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:54.199
<v Speaker 3>what that is?

0:25:54.359 --> 0:25:56.320
<v Speaker 2>How this thing?

0:25:56.800 --> 0:25:59.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like I ain't. Nobody was like mad at ray J,

0:26:00.040 --> 0:26:02.040
<v Speaker 3>and then white people sort of made him more of

0:26:02.200 --> 0:26:04.960
<v Speaker 3>like a direct punchline of being like, look at this

0:26:05.119 --> 0:26:08.960
<v Speaker 3>stupid because he was he all the fixings out there

0:26:09.000 --> 0:26:12.119
<v Speaker 3>to make fun of. He's a little guy, he's Brandy's brother.

0:26:12.600 --> 0:26:17.200
<v Speaker 3>He does all these antics. It seems like an easy target.

0:26:17.359 --> 0:26:19.560
<v Speaker 3>And don't get me wrong, the antics are hilarious.

0:26:19.680 --> 0:26:20.840
<v Speaker 2>It's very funny.

0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:22.920
<v Speaker 6>I don't care.

0:26:23.680 --> 0:26:31.639
<v Speaker 2>Come on, yeah, I don't get a lot of stuff

0:26:31.640 --> 0:26:36.560
<v Speaker 2>he's done. He's so hilarious. He's fucking hysterical. But is

0:26:36.600 --> 0:26:37.560
<v Speaker 2>he ever lost?

0:26:37.880 --> 0:26:39.400
<v Speaker 5>No, he's never lost.

0:26:39.119 --> 0:26:41.640
<v Speaker 2>His reggae ever taken to L what? What? What? What's

0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:42.560
<v Speaker 2>the j L?

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:43.280
<v Speaker 5>No?

0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:43.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't.

0:26:44.080 --> 0:26:46.040
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think at best you could say that

0:26:46.240 --> 0:26:49.080
<v Speaker 3>like there was that period I think where he was

0:26:49.119 --> 0:26:50.880
<v Speaker 3>like he had like trouble.

0:26:50.560 --> 0:26:52.520
<v Speaker 2>With his his kid.

0:26:52.440 --> 0:26:54.960
<v Speaker 3>Because him and the girl had broken up whatever. But

0:26:55.040 --> 0:26:58.639
<v Speaker 3>like even then, nobody was rooting against rag Je. Everybody's

0:26:58.680 --> 0:26:59.520
<v Speaker 3>just like I don't know.

0:26:59.720 --> 0:27:03.000
<v Speaker 1>And he met with Donald Trump, just so I know

0:27:03.040 --> 0:27:05.879
<v Speaker 1>you compared him to they they met unscathed.

0:27:05.960 --> 0:27:08.119
<v Speaker 6>No one touched him. They fucked Kanye up, but they

0:27:08.119 --> 0:27:10.440
<v Speaker 6>didn't ray J. Yeah, I pulled up.

0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:18.200
<v Speaker 1>Anytime anytime he has taken an l because I'm thinking

0:27:18.280 --> 0:27:23.400
<v Speaker 1>him back on the time, didn't didn't like fabulous make

0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:26.720
<v Speaker 1>him play like the piano or something, or it was

0:27:26.720 --> 0:27:31.560
<v Speaker 1>something ray J had to was that or was that Mayweather?

0:27:32.480 --> 0:27:38.040
<v Speaker 3>You're thinking it was Mayweather? I think made him play

0:27:38.080 --> 0:27:40.320
<v Speaker 3>the piano or told him to play the piano and

0:27:40.359 --> 0:27:43.680
<v Speaker 3>he sort of like had a it was a bad performance.

0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:46.960
<v Speaker 3>I think I ate it alive and I recovering that correctly.

0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:50.879
<v Speaker 3>But even then, it's like, yeah, but we wouldn't. Ray

0:27:50.920 --> 0:27:54.960
<v Speaker 3>J just went viral again, like yeah, he's just winning, baby.

0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:59.080
<v Speaker 2>It's he never even even with the funny glasses, how

0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:00.480
<v Speaker 2>many of those glasses did he sell?

0:28:00.560 --> 0:28:05.440
<v Speaker 3>Them, way more than he was gonna sell exactly exactly,

0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:08.280
<v Speaker 3>way more bunny Eyes than Bunny Eyes is gonna be

0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:10.000
<v Speaker 3>able to push there themselves.

0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:11.840
<v Speaker 2>Come on, that was a stupid idea.

0:28:12.560 --> 0:28:18.280
<v Speaker 3>It's fucking idiotic. Even when he did it, like, there

0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:21.080
<v Speaker 3>was never a moment in me where I was like, oh,

0:28:21.119 --> 0:28:24.480
<v Speaker 3>but if he wasn't being silly, that's actually cool like that,

0:28:24.640 --> 0:28:26.000
<v Speaker 3>I can see how why they would do that.

0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:28.320
<v Speaker 2>I was like, this is this doesn't make anything.

0:28:28.800 --> 0:28:33.680
<v Speaker 1>He has headphones too, right then he come on, rayconphone,

0:28:35.280 --> 0:28:38.240
<v Speaker 1>no else, no else, take ain't spent.

0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:40.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you guys remember when Raycon's first

0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:43.400
<v Speaker 3>came out, but but part of the entire pitch of

0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:49.320
<v Speaker 3>Raycon was being like, Apple is trash. You've been dealing

0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:52.560
<v Speaker 3>with these Apple fucking headphones all this time.

0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:55.280
<v Speaker 2>When you have Raycon's.

0:28:54.840 --> 0:29:00.840
<v Speaker 7>Baby, look at my Raycons say the same size, they longer,

0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:02.760
<v Speaker 7>and they taste good.

0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:06.280
<v Speaker 6>Who up with Steve.

0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:10.720
<v Speaker 2>John Yo, That's what I'm saying. Crazy. Come on, you

0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:13.040
<v Speaker 2>can't see. And he didn't lose.

0:29:13.160 --> 0:29:15.600
<v Speaker 3>He just didn't. He just did what ray J was

0:29:15.640 --> 0:29:19.080
<v Speaker 3>supposed to do. I could buy some ray conc to

0:29:19.160 --> 0:29:22.600
<v Speaker 3>the website. I don't think you should. I'll be honest,

0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:25.200
<v Speaker 3>I think he's a winner. I don't think the products

0:29:25.240 --> 0:29:27.600
<v Speaker 3>are pretty good.

0:29:27.640 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 1>I think he just doesn't have the machine behind it.

0:29:29.880 --> 0:29:31.680
<v Speaker 1>But if he did, they would have been the beats

0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:33.000
<v Speaker 1>by Dre easily.

0:29:33.320 --> 0:29:34.360
<v Speaker 6>Yeah. Sure.

0:29:35.360 --> 0:29:37.280
<v Speaker 2>But here's the thing. Even if you don't have that

0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:40.680
<v Speaker 2>machine to make it a billion dollar company, it could

0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:44.240
<v Speaker 2>still be a ten million dollar company. Yeah you know

0:29:44.240 --> 0:29:46.480
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying. It's like still and you add that

0:29:46.600 --> 0:29:50.880
<v Speaker 2>along with the media empire, like Rayj is getting money everywhere. Right,

0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:53.600
<v Speaker 2>what's motor scooty bikes?

0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's right, that's that bike.

0:29:56.120 --> 0:29:58.640
<v Speaker 2>Bro. I'm saying he's a mogul. Yeah.

0:29:58.680 --> 0:30:00.800
<v Speaker 3>No, he's a real mogel for truly.

0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:01.719
<v Speaker 1>Yea.

0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:03.720
<v Speaker 2>And I watched a bunch of those shows.

0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:07.160
<v Speaker 6>Didn't take it entertainment, always good entertainment.

0:30:07.200 --> 0:30:09.840
<v Speaker 2>And I mean he just he never got embarrassed. It

0:30:09.880 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 2>was always just like women fighting over him, him being

0:30:12.720 --> 0:30:15.520
<v Speaker 2>like princess, you don't need to do this, just like

0:30:16.360 --> 0:30:19.360
<v Speaker 2>Raj and he's like, all right, all of her friends

0:30:19.360 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 2>and she comes back. That's all the show. Like, the

0:30:22.360 --> 0:30:23.200
<v Speaker 2>show was him.

0:30:23.000 --> 0:30:24.800
<v Speaker 6>Not taking a loss, no losses.

0:30:25.400 --> 0:30:30.240
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, from from that moment, right, he creates Kim Kardashian.

0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:34.719
<v Speaker 1>That's during the last writers strike. Then the writer strikes

0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:39.720
<v Speaker 1>spawn reality nonscripted television, which is the world we live

0:30:39.720 --> 0:30:43.840
<v Speaker 1>in now. If you go overseas, right, everyone's looking like

0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Kim Kardashian. She became the American beauty standard.

0:30:48.560 --> 0:30:51.440
<v Speaker 2>For I mean, if you go to Glendal, if you.

0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:54.080
<v Speaker 6>Don't need to travel, you could just go to Glyndal.

0:30:54.120 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 2>Which some people would argue his overseas, Yeah, across that

0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:06.120
<v Speaker 2>treacherous l a river. No, but I mean even here,

0:31:06.200 --> 0:31:08.040
<v Speaker 2>you walk around down here, I live downtown. You walk

0:31:08.040 --> 0:31:12.080
<v Speaker 2>around downtown now all the girls of everything yea, And

0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:13.000
<v Speaker 2>that's because of Raja.

0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:17.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, ray j really trade trained white women to uh

0:31:17.680 --> 0:31:20.960
<v Speaker 3>to erase their bodies and somebody else's body in a

0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:24.640
<v Speaker 3>way that they were they were terrified of before before

0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:25.840
<v Speaker 3>he came around.

0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:31.360
<v Speaker 2>Which which also means ray j in injected like give

0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:36.520
<v Speaker 2>some life back into the plastic surgery industry. Whoa, like

0:31:36.560 --> 0:31:39.720
<v Speaker 2>if we're drawing. He also did like Dr Miami, you

0:31:39.760 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 2>gotta think Rajia damn. Yeah, Nip tuck is off the air.

0:31:44.480 --> 0:31:47.640
<v Speaker 2>This is this is at this point, we are sober

0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:52.840
<v Speaker 2>to what that industry represents. Yeah, we don't.

0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 3>It's not iconic the way that it used to be.

0:31:55.680 --> 0:31:57.719
<v Speaker 3>And then ray J shows up and he's like, but

0:31:57.760 --> 0:31:59.680
<v Speaker 3>what if them titties were made out of the meat

0:31:59.760 --> 0:32:00.600
<v Speaker 3>from your back?

0:32:00.760 --> 0:32:01.160
<v Speaker 2>And then.

0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:06.520
<v Speaker 6>And not to make it dark, but how did Kanye's

0:32:06.560 --> 0:32:07.080
<v Speaker 6>mom died?

0:32:08.640 --> 0:32:08.960
<v Speaker 4>Fuck?

0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:10.520
<v Speaker 6>He don't?

0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:16.440
<v Speaker 2>Whoa okay, Yo, So RAJ doesn't do that. It's almost

0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:21.400
<v Speaker 2>as if Kanye was sacrificed for rage. Fuck because all right,

0:32:21.480 --> 0:32:23.320
<v Speaker 2>I didn't look, I don't.

0:32:23.360 --> 0:32:25.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to get y'all, you know by the

0:32:25.840 --> 0:32:30.360
<v Speaker 1>c I I but I'm just giving y'all the breadcrumbs

0:32:30.360 --> 0:32:34.760
<v Speaker 1>to follow, because the ship gets dark any turn. It

0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:37.640
<v Speaker 1>could just get dark when it was ray J Bourne

0:32:37.760 --> 0:32:40.320
<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty one, what happened in nineteen eighty one?

0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:41.280
<v Speaker 6>Crack cocaine?

0:32:42.360 --> 0:32:47.680
<v Speaker 3>So whoa okay, wait a minute, chill out. We need

0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:49.920
<v Speaker 3>to take a break. We need to take a break.

0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:54.800
<v Speaker 3>It's starting to get fucking scary over here. We're gonna

0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:57.200
<v Speaker 3>take a break. We're gonna come back from Morgan Johnson

0:32:57.240 --> 0:32:58.760
<v Speaker 3>and more. My mama told me.

0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:20.120
<v Speaker 2>We are back with Keith Johnson talking about how all

0:33:20.240 --> 0:33:22.360
<v Speaker 2>roads lead to ray J. To be honest, I mean,

0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:24.840
<v Speaker 2>I think we've proven it somewhat at this point, and

0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:29.520
<v Speaker 2>that in that somehow ray J Kanye West what sacrificed

0:33:29.560 --> 0:33:31.720
<v Speaker 2>for RAYJ, which is which is difficult.

0:33:32.240 --> 0:33:35.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's not an easy thing to hear out loud

0:33:35.840 --> 0:33:39.120
<v Speaker 3>and and maybe a more difficult thing to prove. But

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:42.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm excited Keith to get into some of this research

0:33:42.840 --> 0:33:46.360
<v Speaker 3>with you because I think maybe this will help guide

0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 3>your hand in sort of piling up even more evidence

0:33:51.000 --> 0:33:54.240
<v Speaker 3>and or substantiating the evidence you're already laid in front

0:33:54.240 --> 0:33:57.720
<v Speaker 3>of us. As you may or may not know, you

0:33:57.840 --> 0:34:02.280
<v Speaker 3>both probably do. The original sort of source that is

0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:07.040
<v Speaker 3>pointed to for this conspiracy theory is Vince Staples. Vince

0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:10.640
<v Speaker 3>Staples is sort of like the mass media source of it.

0:34:11.320 --> 0:34:15.480
<v Speaker 3>He's in a interview in twenty fifteen on Rosenberg and

0:34:15.560 --> 0:34:17.800
<v Speaker 3>I think Tyler the Creator is there and he goes,

0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:20.839
<v Speaker 3>you gotta get this dude to tell you about what

0:34:20.920 --> 0:34:24.160
<v Speaker 3>he believes about ray J, and then Vince Staples breaks

0:34:24.200 --> 0:34:29.320
<v Speaker 3>down all of ray J's sort of interconnectedness throughout history,

0:34:29.719 --> 0:34:33.440
<v Speaker 3>relating to all the shit, the music, the relationships, the

0:34:33.480 --> 0:34:38.120
<v Speaker 3>sex tape, the reality television, the trend setting, the booty niggas.

0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:40.280
<v Speaker 5>All this stuff he breaks it down.

0:34:42.920 --> 0:34:45.360
<v Speaker 3>Now he also does, and this is where the research

0:34:45.480 --> 0:34:47.280
<v Speaker 3>sort of starts to become interesting.

0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:48.600
<v Speaker 2>He also does this.

0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:51.600
<v Speaker 3>Interview with g Q right that same year. They ask

0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:54.120
<v Speaker 3>him to basically sit down and explain it more to

0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:54.800
<v Speaker 3>white people.

0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:57.000
<v Speaker 5>It seems like he.

0:34:56.920 --> 0:35:01.719
<v Speaker 3>Basically does the same topics, but they make him articulated

0:35:01.760 --> 0:35:05.720
<v Speaker 3>a little more like clearly. And then in that article

0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:09.200
<v Speaker 3>he tells them. He tells the interviewer that RAYJ is

0:35:09.239 --> 0:35:11.560
<v Speaker 3>so influential that all you need to do is simply

0:35:11.640 --> 0:35:15.640
<v Speaker 3>google ray J at right now and a TMZ article

0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:18.160
<v Speaker 3>from a few hours ago will pop up. And that

0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:21.920
<v Speaker 3>researcher does do that. He googles RAYJ and that is

0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:25.600
<v Speaker 3>in fact true at the time a TMZ article immediately linked.

0:35:25.640 --> 0:35:28.400
<v Speaker 3>And remember this is eight years ago, and in that article,

0:35:28.440 --> 0:35:41.000
<v Speaker 3>the headline is ray J becoming a Jew. Hah oh no,

0:35:42.160 --> 0:35:44.600
<v Speaker 3>I swear to God. Eight years ago, there is a

0:35:44.640 --> 0:35:48.680
<v Speaker 3>TMZ and this is a weird bullshit bait and switch

0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:52.759
<v Speaker 3>ass headline because all it actually is is RAYJ going

0:35:52.800 --> 0:35:56.880
<v Speaker 3>and having a meal with some Jewish homies at a

0:35:56.960 --> 0:36:01.919
<v Speaker 3>kosher restaurant in like popular ass New York City, trendy shit.

0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:05.760
<v Speaker 3>And he has this kosher restaurant meal and he interviews

0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:06.759
<v Speaker 3>and he's like, yeah, it was.

0:36:06.800 --> 0:36:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Just telling me about like circumcision to shit. He's like, yeah, he's.

0:36:10.800 --> 0:36:15.040
<v Speaker 3>Like learning Jewish culture and shit. But they TMZ is

0:36:15.200 --> 0:36:17.160
<v Speaker 3>having a boring day. So they say, is ray J

0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:20.480
<v Speaker 3>becoming a Jew? But there is no doubt in my mind?

0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:22.839
<v Speaker 3>And I can't wait to hear you all thoughts that

0:36:22.960 --> 0:36:26.920
<v Speaker 3>a Kanye West from eight years ago sees this article

0:36:28.040 --> 0:36:30.640
<v Speaker 3>still filled with the rage that he is filled with

0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:34.279
<v Speaker 3>at ray J sees that he's becoming a Jew, does not,

0:36:34.400 --> 0:36:39.240
<v Speaker 3>in fact read that article and then decides he hates Jews.

0:36:40.760 --> 0:36:44.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna just add I'm gonna add to that. Kanye

0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:47.959
<v Speaker 3>is seven years ahead of his time, right, so he's

0:36:47.960 --> 0:36:55.799
<v Speaker 3>often talking to us. Yeah, so when that happened, he's

0:36:55.880 --> 0:36:58.000
<v Speaker 3>talking to us in a different time space.

0:36:58.080 --> 0:37:02.520
<v Speaker 1>So what what's really happening. It's not World War three

0:37:02.680 --> 0:37:05.520
<v Speaker 1>we need to prep for. It's the final fight between

0:37:05.640 --> 0:37:07.719
<v Speaker 1>ray J and Kanye as.

0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:08.840
<v Speaker 2>Nigga don't hate Jews.

0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:10.839
<v Speaker 3>He just think ray J is a Jew and he

0:37:10.880 --> 0:37:11.560
<v Speaker 3>hates ray J.

0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:19.000
<v Speaker 2>He really hates ray J the hard All that though,

0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:22.560
<v Speaker 2>for me is like I can't hate ray J, but.

0:37:22.520 --> 0:37:25.160
<v Speaker 3>You're not You're not a psychopath, my man, fair, I

0:37:25.400 --> 0:37:30.640
<v Speaker 3>really appreciate that. I think Kanye is legit out of

0:37:30.680 --> 0:37:33.360
<v Speaker 3>his mind, and so he has something that none of

0:37:33.440 --> 0:37:35.040
<v Speaker 3>us can do, which is hate for ray J.

0:37:35.719 --> 0:37:40.560
<v Speaker 2>Right right, right, right, right right, because I he's just

0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:44.600
<v Speaker 2>so lovable. Yeah, he's fucking adorable.

0:37:45.200 --> 0:37:47.680
<v Speaker 3>That's an adorable forty five year old man.

0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:49.200
<v Speaker 2>He hasn't really ate.

0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:53.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm looking up a picture right now, ray J.

0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:58.600
<v Speaker 1>He has the blonde hair with the dark hoodie. Yeah, yeah, it's.

0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:02.120
<v Speaker 2>Come on, you got yo. I just googled him to

0:38:02.160 --> 0:38:06.240
<v Speaker 2>see about that. And this isn't this isn't a week ago,

0:38:06.640 --> 0:38:11.120
<v Speaker 2>but Jackie Harry stuns fans when they learned through resurface

0:38:11.160 --> 0:38:13.719
<v Speaker 2>clip she hooked up with ray J. This is a

0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:17.280
<v Speaker 2>on man, Jackie har Come on.

0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:22.640
<v Speaker 3>Man, and we're talking about abuse that that's gotta be bored.

0:38:22.680 --> 0:38:26.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what he did. I bet it was

0:38:26.520 --> 0:38:27.960
<v Speaker 2>after sister sister for sure.

0:38:28.400 --> 0:38:31.160
<v Speaker 3>Come on, I don't know, and I'm not gonna ask.

0:38:31.280 --> 0:38:35.000
<v Speaker 3>And even if I did, which who's gonna hold who accountable?

0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:37.680
<v Speaker 2>That's jack A and ray J. They deserve.

0:38:41.120 --> 0:38:43.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm not telling the queen she can't fuck her cousin,

0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:49.360
<v Speaker 3>and I'm not telling jack A Harry she can't sexually

0:38:49.400 --> 0:38:50.200
<v Speaker 3>assault ray J.

0:38:50.640 --> 0:38:53.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh. I forgot he also was with Whitney Houston right

0:38:53.680 --> 0:38:54.279
<v Speaker 2>before the end.

0:38:54.600 --> 0:38:57.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's That's one of the things that Vince Staples

0:38:57.600 --> 0:38:59.839
<v Speaker 3>points to is he says that ray J in fact

0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:01.239
<v Speaker 3>the person that found her.

0:39:01.400 --> 0:39:03.520
<v Speaker 5>That that's that that's.

0:39:03.320 --> 0:39:06.560
<v Speaker 3>How iconic he sort of is in culture. And I

0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:08.880
<v Speaker 3>would argue, and I'd be curious to hear your thoughts

0:39:08.960 --> 0:39:12.800
<v Speaker 3>on this, I would argue both good and bad ways.

0:39:13.000 --> 0:39:14.880
<v Speaker 2>Like I know, I don't think re J is morality.

0:39:14.920 --> 0:39:15.920
<v Speaker 2>I think he's just reg Jae.

0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:19.920
<v Speaker 3>He is the ultimate balance in morality almost if I

0:39:19.920 --> 0:39:22.600
<v Speaker 3>can borrow from a white film, I think ray J

0:39:22.800 --> 0:39:24.200
<v Speaker 3>might be our Forest Gump.

0:39:24.640 --> 0:39:25.879
<v Speaker 9>Oh.

0:39:26.440 --> 0:39:30.640
<v Speaker 2>Right, He's just been there for all of it, right, good,

0:39:30.719 --> 0:39:33.840
<v Speaker 2>bad or sad, you know what I mean? Fuck like

0:39:34.040 --> 0:39:38.000
<v Speaker 2>he cause like that's we're talking about some pretty pretty

0:39:38.040 --> 0:39:44.000
<v Speaker 2>major events in black history that he's been personally witnessed to. Right,

0:39:44.360 --> 0:39:47.200
<v Speaker 2>That's that's that's that's amazing. Yeah.

0:39:47.640 --> 0:39:51.120
<v Speaker 3>It also got me thinking because this article comes out

0:39:51.160 --> 0:39:55.319
<v Speaker 3>in twenty fifteen, right, this sort of like the level

0:39:55.400 --> 0:39:58.239
<v Speaker 3>of influence he kicks in. But you think about the

0:39:58.360 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 3>eight years of influence that he he's had since then,

0:40:02.800 --> 0:40:07.279
<v Speaker 3>and it does feel like you're you're almost missing major

0:40:07.560 --> 0:40:09.319
<v Speaker 3>sort of like important.

0:40:08.800 --> 0:40:10.480
<v Speaker 5>Moments in the ray j A journey.

0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:14.279
<v Speaker 3>Right like up to twenty fifteen, he is a more

0:40:14.400 --> 0:40:19.160
<v Speaker 3>laughable figure, which is what made Vince sound so crazy

0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:21.160
<v Speaker 3>when he was pointing to ray J. But now it's

0:40:21.239 --> 0:40:23.680
<v Speaker 3>like it's hard not to see the impact, you know

0:40:23.719 --> 0:40:26.080
<v Speaker 3>what I mean. Yeah, he's fucking everywhere.

0:40:26.560 --> 0:40:30.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yo, Raycon sells water filters.

0:40:31.560 --> 0:40:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Ifuck, We're going to have a water scarcity moment sooner

0:40:37.040 --> 0:40:40.000
<v Speaker 1>than later, and.

0:40:38.080 --> 0:40:43.520
<v Speaker 3>I and somebody's gonna Raycon incorporated. Somebody's gonna have to

0:40:43.600 --> 0:40:45.200
<v Speaker 3>turn to ray J.

0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:54.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. As far as conspiracy theories that we've had on

0:40:54.880 --> 0:40:57.200
<v Speaker 2>this podcast, I don't think there's one that I believed

0:40:57.200 --> 0:41:02.440
<v Speaker 2>more unequivocally. Yeah, than it's just like you can't deny

0:41:02.480 --> 0:41:07.680
<v Speaker 2>the man's impact. Yeah, Like what I wonder is do

0:41:07.760 --> 0:41:11.160
<v Speaker 2>you think that he is do you think that he

0:41:11.280 --> 0:41:13.600
<v Speaker 2>is conscious of it or do you think he's just

0:41:13.680 --> 0:41:16.880
<v Speaker 2>living his life? And that's how it plays like. I

0:41:16.920 --> 0:41:20.400
<v Speaker 2>don't feel like he wakes up in the morning looking

0:41:20.480 --> 0:41:21.960
<v Speaker 2>to influence culture.

0:41:22.320 --> 0:41:28.440
<v Speaker 3>I think people like this are maybe too psychotic to

0:41:29.040 --> 0:41:31.239
<v Speaker 3>actually be able to think that way.

0:41:32.040 --> 0:41:34.160
<v Speaker 2>Do you think he's psychotic though, I.

0:41:34.120 --> 0:41:39.000
<v Speaker 3>Think he's truly Like it's like he's moving a queen

0:41:39.080 --> 0:41:41.799
<v Speaker 3>around the board, but it's one move at a time.

0:41:41.960 --> 0:41:44.000
<v Speaker 3>Like I don't think he thinks past the movie.

0:41:44.160 --> 0:41:45.480
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, he just her presence.

0:41:45.880 --> 0:41:48.279
<v Speaker 1>To circle back to that Michael Jordan clip, they were

0:41:48.280 --> 0:41:50.520
<v Speaker 1>talking about why Michael Jordan was good, and it was

0:41:50.560 --> 0:41:54.120
<v Speaker 1>because he was present in every moment, and Ray J's

0:41:54.239 --> 0:41:57.399
<v Speaker 1>just present. He's not thinking, even though he did write

0:41:57.400 --> 0:42:02.560
<v Speaker 1>the song one Wish. But yeah, he's president, you know.

0:42:03.360 --> 0:42:06.520
<v Speaker 3>But I think every letter in that song surprised him.

0:42:06.600 --> 0:42:09.440
<v Speaker 3>I think he's like, ah, I didn't even know I

0:42:09.480 --> 0:42:13.480
<v Speaker 3>was there. Yeah, yeah, okay, let's see what you got

0:42:14.200 --> 0:42:14.640
<v Speaker 3>of God.

0:42:14.880 --> 0:42:19.279
<v Speaker 1>He's just letting him speak through him. Yeah, right, right,

0:42:19.320 --> 0:42:20.080
<v Speaker 1>He's a vessel.

0:42:20.239 --> 0:42:21.000
<v Speaker 2>I do like that.

0:42:21.440 --> 0:42:23.680
<v Speaker 3>J is ultra instinct, you know what I mean. He

0:42:23.760 --> 0:42:27.000
<v Speaker 3>is Goku's yes, final form as far.

0:42:26.840 --> 0:42:30.600
<v Speaker 2>As we know. Yeah, yeah, I like that unto.

0:42:32.200 --> 0:42:35.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and there's no brick wall that could possibly meet him,

0:42:35.800 --> 0:42:38.120
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, Like he's not even it

0:42:38.200 --> 0:42:38.840
<v Speaker 3>can't happen.

0:42:39.400 --> 0:42:41.120
<v Speaker 2>Here's the question I have for the both of you.

0:42:41.840 --> 0:42:45.040
<v Speaker 2>Where does this go because he obviously hasn't peaked.

0:42:45.600 --> 0:42:48.520
<v Speaker 3>Oh you think you think we're not done seeing the

0:42:48.560 --> 0:42:49.960
<v Speaker 3>best of what ray J could do.

0:42:50.200 --> 0:42:53.960
<v Speaker 2>He's like forty years old. That's that's That's like a

0:42:54.040 --> 0:42:55.800
<v Speaker 2>lot of people ask when they get in the game

0:42:56.160 --> 0:43:00.239
<v Speaker 2>as far as influential. Yeah, like he did all this

0:43:00.360 --> 0:43:06.040
<v Speaker 2>without the benefit of age behind him to make him

0:43:06.040 --> 0:43:10.680
<v Speaker 2>more respectable. You know what I'm saying, Like a lot

0:43:10.719 --> 0:43:12.800
<v Speaker 2>of ray J's moves we were looking at as moves

0:43:12.800 --> 0:43:14.520
<v Speaker 2>of a twenty five year old man, a twenty four

0:43:14.560 --> 0:43:17.520
<v Speaker 2>year old man, he's on moasho when he's sixteen seventeen.

0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:20.480
<v Speaker 2>You know, with the respect of age behind him, I

0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:22.560
<v Speaker 2>think that this could go anywhere.

0:43:23.320 --> 0:43:27.439
<v Speaker 3>Do you at all fear though, that with age behind him,

0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:32.040
<v Speaker 3>some of these antics will become less endearing. Do you

0:43:32.080 --> 0:43:35.800
<v Speaker 3>think that that's there's any threat of him stopping being

0:43:35.840 --> 0:43:38.760
<v Speaker 3>the adorable ray J that we all love and suddenly

0:43:39.040 --> 0:43:41.960
<v Speaker 3>ben just a big old fat dude that we're all like, hey, bro,

0:43:42.080 --> 0:43:43.720
<v Speaker 3>you got a chill out and call your family.

0:43:46.840 --> 0:43:49.880
<v Speaker 2>No, because the endearing thing is a personality trait, you

0:43:49.880 --> 0:43:51.640
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean? Even when he was greasy on

0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:53.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, what was the show?

0:43:53.960 --> 0:43:56.960
<v Speaker 3>What was the show called for the love of Rage.

0:43:57.480 --> 0:43:59.279
<v Speaker 2>Ray J, he'd be greasy on there, but you still

0:43:59.320 --> 0:44:02.560
<v Speaker 2>liked him because you know what I mean, He'll never not.

0:44:03.239 --> 0:44:05.960
<v Speaker 1>He knew, he knew how to get ratings. I got

0:44:05.960 --> 0:44:08.759
<v Speaker 1>a question. You said, he's forty one years old, right, Yeah,

0:44:08.840 --> 0:44:12.120
<v Speaker 1>something like that, entering in his second half of his life.

0:44:12.200 --> 0:44:15.520
<v Speaker 1>You know the second chapter, How old was Kobe Bryant

0:44:15.520 --> 0:44:16.080
<v Speaker 1>when he died?

0:44:17.520 --> 0:44:20.800
<v Speaker 2>Come on, all right, bro, come on, come on.

0:44:20.680 --> 0:44:25.239
<v Speaker 6>It gets dark killed every turn, bro.

0:44:26.200 --> 0:44:28.320
<v Speaker 1>So it's just all.

0:44:35.800 --> 0:44:40.960
<v Speaker 2>Town for a little bit and low. But we didn't

0:44:40.960 --> 0:44:43.920
<v Speaker 2>mean to be nobody.

0:44:44.880 --> 0:44:48.680
<v Speaker 1>I think I think ray J goes goes along because

0:44:48.840 --> 0:44:51.719
<v Speaker 1>I think Zeus is just this is this is like

0:44:51.760 --> 0:44:54.560
<v Speaker 1>a beta test for him, and I think he goes

0:44:54.600 --> 0:45:00.239
<v Speaker 1>ahead and completes Bill Cosby's mission of buying NBC if

0:45:00.239 --> 0:45:03.319
<v Speaker 1>not in BC or be et because a lot of

0:45:03.320 --> 0:45:07.320
<v Speaker 1>people are trying right now. But I think ray J

0:45:07.560 --> 0:45:10.560
<v Speaker 1>is the one who gets the right people together, the

0:45:10.600 --> 0:45:13.440
<v Speaker 1>right chess pieces, and then they just make a quick,

0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:17.800
<v Speaker 1>swift chess move by bet and he's a part of that.

0:45:18.480 --> 0:45:18.680
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:45:19.239 --> 0:45:22.640
<v Speaker 3>You know what's crazy is that is that they were

0:45:22.800 --> 0:45:25.840
<v Speaker 3>just who was it? The Weather Channel? Nigga and Byron

0:45:25.920 --> 0:45:31.040
<v Speaker 3>A Byron Allen, we're just about to team up and

0:45:31.280 --> 0:45:33.640
<v Speaker 3>buy the e T. And you know that the reason

0:45:33.640 --> 0:45:36.480
<v Speaker 3>that they got turned down whatever it is, was not

0:45:36.560 --> 0:45:39.600
<v Speaker 3>because they didn't have the bread. So this isn't a

0:45:39.800 --> 0:45:44.360
<v Speaker 3>money issue. This is a character issue for whoever bt

0:45:44.760 --> 0:45:48.480
<v Speaker 3>IS is owned by. And I bet they'll see something

0:45:48.560 --> 0:45:51.719
<v Speaker 3>in ray j that they could not see in UH

0:45:52.200 --> 0:45:53.479
<v Speaker 3>comics Unleashed Stone.

0:45:53.920 --> 0:45:59.479
<v Speaker 1>Byron doesn't have the sauce like he don't go looking

0:45:59.480 --> 0:46:08.799
<v Speaker 1>for discuss sting black television. He's like, Bro, I got

0:46:08.840 --> 0:46:11.759
<v Speaker 1>the program, I have the formula, I do this.

0:46:12.480 --> 0:46:14.279
<v Speaker 6>He buys bt IS.

0:46:15.800 --> 0:46:18.479
<v Speaker 2>Byron Allen was going to try to bring the news back.

0:46:18.600 --> 0:46:21.760
<v Speaker 1>You no, don't nobody want to watch black news.

0:46:21.800 --> 0:46:26.239
<v Speaker 2>Bro Spier Smiley, where is he?

0:46:28.000 --> 0:46:31.399
<v Speaker 3>And he's like, no, you ain't got what we're looking for, man,

0:46:31.400 --> 0:46:33.800
<v Speaker 3>We're looking for a motherfucker like poison.

0:46:35.280 --> 0:46:38.239
<v Speaker 1>And he buys it from Viacom and then he just

0:46:38.280 --> 0:46:41.080
<v Speaker 1>shifts the culture one more time on a on a

0:46:41.160 --> 0:46:45.040
<v Speaker 1>large scale. And I think that will be we move

0:46:45.120 --> 0:46:46.920
<v Speaker 1>within the next five to ten years.

0:46:47.239 --> 0:46:51.920
<v Speaker 3>Damn, that's like that, that's crazy. If raj On it

0:46:51.920 --> 0:46:53.040
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't surprise.

0:46:52.760 --> 0:46:57.919
<v Speaker 1>Me, man, that no that's that's a very possible move.

0:46:58.520 --> 0:47:01.520
<v Speaker 3>And I'll say this, I think if ray J owns BT,

0:47:01.680 --> 0:47:03.440
<v Speaker 3>I think niggas will stop making fun of it the

0:47:03.480 --> 0:47:04.200
<v Speaker 3>same way they do.

0:47:04.600 --> 0:47:08.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I I I like BAT programming.

0:47:08.560 --> 0:47:17.920
<v Speaker 10>Though, do you you didn't watch all those Mani movies

0:47:17.960 --> 0:47:19.200
<v Speaker 10>they did the new edition and.

0:47:19.280 --> 0:47:21.200
<v Speaker 3>When he no, no, no, you don't get to do that.

0:47:21.280 --> 0:47:23.879
<v Speaker 3>You're talking about BT from like ten years ago. I'm

0:47:23.920 --> 0:47:27.160
<v Speaker 3>asking you said you like b ET programming as if

0:47:27.160 --> 0:47:31.600
<v Speaker 3>you are currently caught up on BT program.

0:47:31.239 --> 0:47:34.040
<v Speaker 2>What do they go now? They got missed? Pat hold on,

0:47:34.080 --> 0:47:35.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm pulling it up. I got I got it. I did.

0:47:35.880 --> 0:47:37.560
<v Speaker 2>Let it laps on my ship though.

0:47:37.880 --> 0:47:40.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I just want to I'm trying to understand what

0:47:40.560 --> 0:47:42.520
<v Speaker 3>you are currently watching.

0:47:42.200 --> 0:47:47.719
<v Speaker 6>On b kJ Smith's show, whatever her name.

0:47:48.719 --> 0:47:51.919
<v Speaker 2>You know what. You're right, You're right. I don't like it. Yeah,

0:47:51.960 --> 0:47:54.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't think you like talking about it. I'm talking

0:47:54.120 --> 0:47:57.600
<v Speaker 2>about a few years ago. I'm not watching Average Love.

0:47:57.520 --> 0:48:02.399
<v Speaker 3>Or bringing back Comice Berry has like four shows they

0:48:02.400 --> 0:48:04.480
<v Speaker 3>are bringing back review idea here are they?

0:48:04.640 --> 0:48:07.640
<v Speaker 2>They've been saying that, though I feel like that that's true.

0:48:07.800 --> 0:48:10.319
<v Speaker 3>I also know some people who taped for whatever was

0:48:10.320 --> 0:48:12.520
<v Speaker 3>supposed to be a new Comic View, and then they

0:48:12.560 --> 0:48:14.200
<v Speaker 3>never didn't be.

0:48:14.280 --> 0:48:17.480
<v Speaker 1>It was that the Kevin Hart one, Kevin Hart, Mike Epps.

0:48:18.000 --> 0:48:21.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh maybe Yeah, so Kevin Hart's I think e p

0:48:21.400 --> 0:48:24.840
<v Speaker 1>and it. Mike Epps is running the host spot.

0:48:25.719 --> 0:48:28.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh he's gonna host. Yeah, that's pretty good. That's

0:48:28.440 --> 0:48:31.600
<v Speaker 2>actually good. That's better for him than then.

0:48:32.480 --> 0:48:35.080
<v Speaker 6>So they settled their beef. Yeah right, I forgot that.

0:48:35.160 --> 0:48:37.840
<v Speaker 5>Kevin Hard and Mike EPs.

0:48:38.160 --> 0:48:38.880
<v Speaker 3>I bet ray j.

0:48:41.360 --> 0:48:44.600
<v Speaker 2>Call. He's the only one who could do it.

0:48:45.280 --> 0:48:48.600
<v Speaker 3>He like, Yo, Ken, Let's get Mike on the phone

0:48:48.840 --> 0:48:49.399
<v Speaker 3>and right.

0:48:49.320 --> 0:48:52.400
<v Speaker 6>Now for the people, let's bring back Tomicview.

0:49:01.360 --> 0:49:05.160
<v Speaker 3>My dad the other day, my dad is on TikTok

0:49:05.239 --> 0:49:07.719
<v Speaker 3>and and I guess his algorithm is now feeding him

0:49:07.760 --> 0:49:10.120
<v Speaker 3>a fun ton of comedians. And he called me.

0:49:10.239 --> 0:49:13.799
<v Speaker 2>It was like, have you heard of Gary Owen? He's

0:49:13.800 --> 0:49:14.520
<v Speaker 2>like it's not good.

0:49:15.320 --> 0:49:22.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, hey man, amen, I don't know how to

0:49:22.080 --> 0:49:32.920
<v Speaker 3>tell you this, but you might got the worst. And

0:49:33.040 --> 0:49:35.319
<v Speaker 3>I hate that you listen to them so often. If

0:49:35.400 --> 0:49:38.520
<v Speaker 3>if that, if those two things are the crossover them,

0:49:38.640 --> 0:49:40.400
<v Speaker 3>then we might be the fucking worst.

0:49:40.600 --> 0:49:42.440
<v Speaker 2>I love you that of all, I love the all

0:49:42.600 --> 0:49:44.719
<v Speaker 2>of all. The ship he saw Gary Owans was one

0:49:44.719 --> 0:49:45.200
<v Speaker 2>where he's.

0:49:45.040 --> 0:49:45.520
<v Speaker 5>Like, let me.

0:49:48.120 --> 0:49:51.840
<v Speaker 2>Get my son on the horn. I gotta see I gotta.

0:49:51.600 --> 0:49:52.160
<v Speaker 6>See the reason.

0:49:53.120 --> 0:49:55.680
<v Speaker 3>Brother, have you have you at least met the man

0:49:55.760 --> 0:50:01.879
<v Speaker 3>because he's slow fun oh dz. He didn't do all that.

0:50:01.840 --> 0:50:02.359
<v Speaker 2>But he did.

0:50:02.480 --> 0:50:05.040
<v Speaker 1>He was like Gary, he thought of you, when he

0:50:04.680 --> 0:50:06.439
<v Speaker 1>thought of when he saw Garry.

0:50:06.840 --> 0:50:09.719
<v Speaker 6>Let me give myself, let me let me tell him

0:50:09.719 --> 0:50:10.279
<v Speaker 6>I love him.

0:50:11.400 --> 0:50:12.160
<v Speaker 2>He's funny.

0:50:12.680 --> 0:50:13.840
<v Speaker 3>Gary Owen's funny.

0:50:14.080 --> 0:50:16.680
<v Speaker 2>To be fair, I don't know any Gary Owen's bits,

0:50:16.800 --> 0:50:18.120
<v Speaker 2>so I don't know if he is bad.

0:50:18.360 --> 0:50:21.440
<v Speaker 3>Here's what I'll say during that comic view early day.

0:50:21.360 --> 0:50:23.720
<v Speaker 2>Comic view ship. I loved Gary Owen.

0:50:23.920 --> 0:50:25.719
<v Speaker 5>I fucking I thought he was really fun.

0:50:25.760 --> 0:50:27.120
<v Speaker 2>No, I mean, I think he might be good.

0:50:27.960 --> 0:50:30.960
<v Speaker 1>It's hard to unlearn certain things when you got to

0:50:31.080 --> 0:50:34.960
<v Speaker 1>unlearn like he's not he's not good, and you're like,

0:50:35.040 --> 0:50:37.320
<v Speaker 1>you have to process that. It's tough sometimes.

0:50:37.719 --> 0:50:38.000
<v Speaker 10>M H.

0:50:38.440 --> 0:50:40.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think there's people that will always hold

0:50:40.320 --> 0:50:42.880
<v Speaker 2>that spot in your heart. It doesn't matter.

0:50:42.760 --> 0:50:43.800
<v Speaker 6>Who's that for y'all.

0:50:44.480 --> 0:50:47.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't think I ever need to see Bruce Bruce again.

0:50:48.640 --> 0:50:50.359
<v Speaker 2>Don't do that, do you know what I mean?

0:50:50.400 --> 0:50:55.200
<v Speaker 3>It's not Bruce Bruce. It's he was very fucking good.

0:50:55.760 --> 0:50:58.960
<v Speaker 3>He was one of the best. But I think if

0:50:59.000 --> 0:51:03.080
<v Speaker 3>I saw it now, I'm so far into the the

0:51:03.120 --> 0:51:05.839
<v Speaker 3>magic trick that I'd be like, well, this isn't even

0:51:05.920 --> 0:51:07.960
<v Speaker 3>that good of the magic trick.

0:51:08.680 --> 0:51:10.799
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I know what the magic trick is.

0:51:11.280 --> 0:51:13.120
<v Speaker 2>You can't tell me. Flex is not hilarious?

0:51:13.280 --> 0:51:14.880
<v Speaker 6>Flex are now, Alexander?

0:51:15.200 --> 0:51:23.320
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, now.

0:51:25.480 --> 0:51:26.560
<v Speaker 6>I don't know flex Arnell.

0:51:27.360 --> 0:51:31.200
<v Speaker 2>Who the fucking flex are now? Now? Man?

0:51:31.280 --> 0:51:40.359
<v Speaker 5>He was killing.

0:51:37.800 --> 0:51:40.240
<v Speaker 8>You think that we were talking about a man named

0:51:40.280 --> 0:51:43.399
<v Speaker 8>flexar now because I enjoyed.

0:51:43.040 --> 0:51:50.400
<v Speaker 2>You, we wouldn't not, all right, It is a flex actually,

0:51:50.640 --> 0:51:52.359
<v Speaker 2>if I if I think about it, if I think

0:51:52.360 --> 0:51:55.000
<v Speaker 2>about it in a way, flex is like my Will Smith.

0:51:55.480 --> 0:51:58.680
<v Speaker 2>He was in that lane I thought Flex was. I

0:51:58.719 --> 0:52:02.520
<v Speaker 2>thought he was so oh cool. I thought he was

0:52:02.560 --> 0:52:07.040
<v Speaker 2>the coolest guy flex yeah, before and after Homeboys and

0:52:07.040 --> 0:52:07.720
<v Speaker 2>out of Space.

0:52:08.239 --> 0:52:11.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, now I felt that even even what was it

0:52:11.640 --> 0:52:12.239
<v Speaker 3>one on one?

0:52:12.520 --> 0:52:14.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, that's where I got it flat at the

0:52:14.640 --> 0:52:15.160
<v Speaker 2>weather Man.

0:52:15.680 --> 0:52:15.919
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:52:16.000 --> 0:52:18.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he had a self awareness inside of his cool.

0:52:19.000 --> 0:52:20.719
<v Speaker 3>So he was down to take the l but he

0:52:20.840 --> 0:52:22.000
<v Speaker 3>wasn't really taking l's.

0:52:22.080 --> 0:52:25.320
<v Speaker 2>He had it, yeah, man, and he had that deaf January.

0:52:25.320 --> 0:52:28.560
<v Speaker 2>He's wearing the yellow mm hmmm mm hmmm, hm. You

0:52:28.600 --> 0:52:31.640
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm talking out, Yeah, man, flex Flex is

0:52:31.640 --> 0:52:35.400
<v Speaker 2>my Will Smith. That's good to know. I'm glad I

0:52:35.480 --> 0:52:36.080
<v Speaker 2>didn't know.

0:52:37.280 --> 0:52:39.720
<v Speaker 6>We have mother Will Smith that we could put in play.

0:52:40.160 --> 0:52:42.680
<v Speaker 3>Now now I don't have to bring this up in therapy.

0:52:43.040 --> 0:52:47.680
<v Speaker 3>I think I I think I worked this one out.

0:52:47.719 --> 0:52:49.040
<v Speaker 3>I can check this off the list.

0:52:49.160 --> 0:52:50.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, finally we'll go back to talk.

0:52:53.680 --> 0:52:55.560
<v Speaker 6>Let's untackt this well.

0:52:56.480 --> 0:52:59.160
<v Speaker 3>I think we should land this plane because it seems

0:52:59.200 --> 0:53:02.799
<v Speaker 3>as if we are are all in agreement that ray

0:53:02.880 --> 0:53:06.600
<v Speaker 3>Ja is in fact the cultural icon that he's been

0:53:06.680 --> 0:53:08.960
<v Speaker 3>suggested to be. I think the best way to land

0:53:09.000 --> 0:53:11.520
<v Speaker 3>this plane is to really just do a total recap

0:53:11.560 --> 0:53:14.239
<v Speaker 3>of all of that, all that he's done to help

0:53:14.600 --> 0:53:18.040
<v Speaker 3>sort of solidify it for our listeners. So obviously, and please,

0:53:18.120 --> 0:53:20.239
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to do this alone, So y'all jump in.

0:53:20.360 --> 0:53:24.360
<v Speaker 3>He he fucking let's begin right from the beginning of

0:53:24.400 --> 0:53:27.839
<v Speaker 3>his career. He starts off as a child star. Yeah,

0:53:28.040 --> 0:53:31.160
<v Speaker 3>nineteen ninety three, he is already acting on a SIDMD

0:53:31.760 --> 0:53:34.279
<v Speaker 3>show even before Brandy is.

0:53:34.360 --> 0:53:36.879
<v Speaker 2>In fact, oh he was on something before Moesha.

0:53:37.000 --> 0:53:41.520
<v Speaker 3>I think Brandy is the famous singer. But before Moesha

0:53:41.600 --> 0:53:44.640
<v Speaker 3>the show exists, he is on the Simbad Show.

0:53:45.040 --> 0:53:47.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh I didn't even know that, okay, so yeah, he

0:53:47.600 --> 0:53:50.279
<v Speaker 2>start him early, start him early, so there and then

0:53:50.320 --> 0:53:54.360
<v Speaker 2>that moves to Moesha. Right, arguably the most memorable character

0:53:55.200 --> 0:54:00.239
<v Speaker 2>in Moesha whoa. I'd say Dorian Wright was the most dad.

0:54:00.320 --> 0:54:01.239
<v Speaker 3>Dorian was his name.

0:54:01.520 --> 0:54:03.840
<v Speaker 2>It was the most right, like if you go, it

0:54:03.880 --> 0:54:05.560
<v Speaker 2>was like him and Cam are the only ones that

0:54:07.040 --> 0:54:08.200
<v Speaker 2>because she had him.

0:54:08.320 --> 0:54:16.000
<v Speaker 3>But I was man dell man myself. But yeah, all right, man, yeah,

0:54:16.000 --> 0:54:18.239
<v Speaker 3>I was like that. I don't get why people be

0:54:18.280 --> 0:54:21.000
<v Speaker 3>calling her every they wrong.

0:54:22.120 --> 0:54:24.960
<v Speaker 2>I felt that way about the police officer on the wings.

0:54:25.000 --> 0:54:29.560
<v Speaker 2>But anyways, same, yeah, yeah, I think we're talking about it. Yeah,

0:54:29.680 --> 0:54:33.520
<v Speaker 2>a lot to impact a lot, all right. So yeah.

0:54:33.560 --> 0:54:35.719
<v Speaker 2>So then but then he comes out is that it

0:54:35.760 --> 0:54:36.560
<v Speaker 2>was music his.

0:54:36.560 --> 0:54:40.320
<v Speaker 3>Next big thing, I think so so so as history

0:54:40.320 --> 0:54:43.080
<v Speaker 3>would tell it, Brandy is sort of like peaking in

0:54:43.160 --> 0:54:46.759
<v Speaker 3>her success, and then ray J decides he's gonna come

0:54:46.840 --> 0:54:50.399
<v Speaker 3>take over music with those. I think his first hit

0:54:50.600 --> 0:54:52.759
<v Speaker 3>was like a top twenty five or something. Sexy can

0:54:52.840 --> 0:54:55.279
<v Speaker 3>I I don't think it was sexy can. I was

0:54:55.280 --> 0:54:58.319
<v Speaker 3>something Before that, it's like, let's get it, get it

0:54:58.760 --> 0:55:01.879
<v Speaker 3>done or finished fast. I don't know what the fuck

0:55:01.920 --> 0:55:06.520
<v Speaker 3>it's called. Let me come inside of you and you'll

0:55:06.560 --> 0:55:12.840
<v Speaker 3>come to I'm trying to bust one in your bitch.

0:55:13.000 --> 0:55:14.360
<v Speaker 3>What you trying to do some.

0:55:14.600 --> 0:55:16.880
<v Speaker 2>Some some raje a ass lyric.

0:55:17.040 --> 0:55:23.359
<v Speaker 3>You know, I got a mouth, let me put it

0:55:23.400 --> 0:55:27.640
<v Speaker 3>on you, which I love, all right, but yeah, So

0:55:27.680 --> 0:55:31.120
<v Speaker 3>he then shifts into music, and then I think that's

0:55:31.160 --> 0:55:34.160
<v Speaker 3>where I would argue his uh he sort of finds

0:55:34.200 --> 0:55:37.560
<v Speaker 3>his sexual enrichment. That's when he becomes sort of like

0:55:37.640 --> 0:55:41.880
<v Speaker 3>this powerhouse of sexual sexuality and he fucks everybody. He

0:55:41.960 --> 0:55:46.240
<v Speaker 3>dates to literally everyone. He was Nick Cannon before Nick Cannon,

0:55:46.600 --> 0:55:49.680
<v Speaker 3>uh started having kids, you know what I mean?

0:55:49.840 --> 0:55:52.600
<v Speaker 2>And he'll probably mean Nick Cannon after Nick Cannon.

0:55:53.200 --> 0:55:54.200
<v Speaker 5>Yeah that's fair.

0:55:54.440 --> 0:55:55.359
<v Speaker 3>Nick Cannon gonna die.

0:55:55.400 --> 0:56:01.319
<v Speaker 6>So whatever had a couple of years left of Nick.

0:56:03.880 --> 0:56:09.200
<v Speaker 3>There's nothing else under that turbine. Baby.

0:56:09.239 --> 0:56:11.759
<v Speaker 2>So then from the second round of music, then he

0:56:11.840 --> 0:56:13.759
<v Speaker 2>goes then he goes to the porno.

0:56:13.719 --> 0:56:14.720
<v Speaker 6>Right, Yeah.

0:56:14.880 --> 0:56:19.160
<v Speaker 3>That then he releases the Kraken of arguably one of

0:56:19.239 --> 0:56:22.200
<v Speaker 3>the most boring porno tapes of all time. Not a

0:56:22.239 --> 0:56:28.799
<v Speaker 3>great at not a great watch and that becomes her fame,

0:56:28.920 --> 0:56:32.640
<v Speaker 3>that becomes the King Kardashian rising fame, and subsequently ray

0:56:32.719 --> 0:56:37.960
<v Speaker 3>J star also rises because of the constant reminder that

0:56:38.360 --> 0:56:39.920
<v Speaker 3>he quote unquote hit it.

0:56:39.880 --> 0:56:43.880
<v Speaker 6>For relationship and then starts off reality and then he

0:56:43.920 --> 0:56:44.480
<v Speaker 6>goes into it.

0:56:44.800 --> 0:56:47.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then he begins his own reality media empire,

0:56:48.080 --> 0:56:50.399
<v Speaker 2>that's right, which is huge.

0:56:50.440 --> 0:56:55.680
<v Speaker 3>And and frankly transforms v H one because while Flavor

0:56:55.719 --> 0:56:58.960
<v Speaker 3>of Love is the first re quote unquote reality show

0:56:59.000 --> 0:57:03.360
<v Speaker 3>of that kind, ray J then turns it into love

0:57:03.400 --> 0:57:07.640
<v Speaker 3>and hip hop, which is the new transformation of VH one.

0:57:07.920 --> 0:57:10.040
<v Speaker 3>Back when Flavor of Love was on, they were playing

0:57:10.080 --> 0:57:13.160
<v Speaker 3>indie music and fucking that's where I learned who like

0:57:13.680 --> 0:57:17.720
<v Speaker 3>who who fucking Adele was was watching VH one back

0:57:17.760 --> 0:57:20.880
<v Speaker 3>when she was playing acoustic guitars, is you know what

0:57:20.920 --> 0:57:22.600
<v Speaker 3>I mean? It was a different wave. And then ray

0:57:22.680 --> 0:57:24.160
<v Speaker 3>J showed up and they were like, I think we

0:57:24.280 --> 0:57:25.480
<v Speaker 3>worked for niggas.

0:57:25.120 --> 0:57:28.040
<v Speaker 2>Now, yeah, and they have been in service to us

0:57:28.040 --> 0:57:29.040
<v Speaker 2>ever since, which.

0:57:29.240 --> 0:57:32.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, because even if you watch like the great

0:57:32.400 --> 0:57:35.080
<v Speaker 1>like a like a Patresia or Billboard bir they were.

0:57:35.160 --> 0:57:37.240
<v Speaker 1>They were on VH one a lot, and I think

0:57:37.280 --> 0:57:40.640
<v Speaker 1>that opened up the Lane for like just authentic people

0:57:41.160 --> 0:57:41.920
<v Speaker 1>on television.

0:57:42.560 --> 0:57:43.040
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmm.

0:57:43.360 --> 0:57:44.360
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:57:44.480 --> 0:57:47.040
<v Speaker 3>They were like, we're showing real human beings in this

0:57:47.400 --> 0:57:48.560
<v Speaker 3>post ray j world.

0:57:51.440 --> 0:57:54.720
<v Speaker 2>We're showing the dark underside of what a human can be.

0:57:55.960 --> 0:58:01.040
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So then then the reality television and then he uh,

0:58:01.560 --> 0:58:05.680
<v Speaker 3>he threatens to have fabulous fucked. He gets in a

0:58:05.760 --> 0:58:09.120
<v Speaker 3>number of beefs, all of which seemed to have no

0:58:09.440 --> 0:58:13.360
<v Speaker 3>effect on his life. He begins owning everything. He starts

0:58:13.400 --> 0:58:17.600
<v Speaker 3>to every company that you thought was a joke Ray

0:58:17.680 --> 0:58:21.120
<v Speaker 3>j Bys and somehow it's no longer a joke, and

0:58:21.160 --> 0:58:23.080
<v Speaker 3>then what then then what does it become?

0:58:24.200 --> 0:58:27.440
<v Speaker 2>Uh? Post that, I feel like it's just been him

0:58:27.480 --> 0:58:31.320
<v Speaker 2>moving in like side, you know, like the Trump film. Yeah,

0:58:31.400 --> 0:58:33.240
<v Speaker 2>I feel like he's kind of been not as front,

0:58:33.360 --> 0:58:35.800
<v Speaker 2>making deals under the table, That's what I think.

0:58:35.880 --> 0:58:39.160
<v Speaker 3>But even recently when because it did come out that

0:58:39.240 --> 0:58:43.920
<v Speaker 3>where Kim accused him, if I'm remembering correctly, accused him

0:58:43.960 --> 0:58:47.760
<v Speaker 3>of having like manipulated the tapes all these years that

0:58:47.880 --> 0:58:51.920
<v Speaker 3>he was like, oh, that's what it was. Kanye gives

0:58:52.040 --> 0:58:55.560
<v Speaker 3>Kim back the tapes that he supposedly had bought the

0:58:55.640 --> 0:58:58.680
<v Speaker 3>secret tapes from ray j A or worked out whatever,

0:58:59.080 --> 0:59:02.120
<v Speaker 3>and then Ray J made not only made public that

0:59:02.120 --> 0:59:04.360
<v Speaker 3>that was a lie, that he was not in possession

0:59:04.440 --> 0:59:07.720
<v Speaker 3>of the tapes, had receipts for this ship, and also

0:59:08.080 --> 0:59:12.360
<v Speaker 3>then proved that the mom was the originating source for

0:59:12.480 --> 0:59:14.080
<v Speaker 3>the sex tape in the beginning.

0:59:14.560 --> 0:59:15.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, flat au.

0:59:17.920 --> 0:59:22.160
<v Speaker 3>He really like proved what we've been speculating for over

0:59:22.200 --> 0:59:26.080
<v Speaker 3>a generation now that Chris Jenner is in fact like

0:59:26.280 --> 0:59:31.240
<v Speaker 3>the devil, and then went about his fucking day putting

0:59:31.280 --> 0:59:40.040
<v Speaker 3>his hat in weird positions during during tapings. Slightly, it

0:59:40.160 --> 0:59:44.520
<v Speaker 3>didn't even He took down the devil and it didn't

0:59:44.600 --> 0:59:46.200
<v Speaker 3>even affect his day.

0:59:46.520 --> 0:59:48.480
<v Speaker 2>Here's what I'm saying. You gotta be a gotta be

0:59:48.520 --> 0:59:49.720
<v Speaker 2>an angel to take out a devil.

0:59:50.040 --> 0:59:54.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's a true glitch in the matrix, and he

0:59:54.400 --> 0:59:55.600
<v Speaker 1>is the one.

0:59:56.080 --> 0:59:56.560
<v Speaker 6>He's the one.

0:59:57.600 --> 0:59:58.680
<v Speaker 3>Well, can I get an a man?

0:59:59.000 --> 0:59:59.360
<v Speaker 6>Amen?

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<v Speaker 1>This is just the beginning, guys, just the beginning. This

1:00:03.680 --> 1:00:06.960
<v Speaker 1>is just it's going it's going away chapter. This is

1:00:07.040 --> 1:00:10.120
<v Speaker 1>this is where we Yeah, it's going away.

1:00:10.280 --> 1:00:12.600
<v Speaker 3>And if he starts to do more iconic shiit Keiths,

1:00:12.960 --> 1:00:15.160
<v Speaker 3>We'll bring you back. This will be uh like a

1:00:15.200 --> 1:00:19.880
<v Speaker 3>little journey. Yeah, it was like if you know Keith

1:00:19.960 --> 1:00:23.120
<v Speaker 3>Johnson back you know we're doing a rage J episode.

1:00:23.320 --> 1:00:24.880
<v Speaker 2>It's uh, it's our weekend up to.

1:00:28.480 --> 1:00:31.520
<v Speaker 3>You're you're the Andy Rooney for whatever this show is.

1:00:31.640 --> 1:00:36.640
<v Speaker 6>Right again, I'm excited for any ray J moves in

1:00:36.680 --> 1:00:37.160
<v Speaker 6>the future.

1:00:37.640 --> 1:00:39.520
<v Speaker 3>Keith, could you tell the people where they can find

1:00:39.520 --> 1:00:41.040
<v Speaker 3>you and what cool shit you have going.

1:00:40.960 --> 1:00:46.400
<v Speaker 1>On at Keith Johnson h Q on all social media platforms.

1:00:46.760 --> 1:00:48.000
<v Speaker 6>The cool shit I'm doing right now.

1:00:48.040 --> 1:00:50.760
<v Speaker 1>I got Culture Court Comedy in LA which is like

1:00:51.160 --> 1:00:55.120
<v Speaker 1>a comedy styled court room where we bring on comedians

1:00:55.160 --> 1:00:58.520
<v Speaker 1>and they do cases and we decide culture. And then

1:00:59.240 --> 1:01:02.000
<v Speaker 1>on the East Coast, me and Sam Jay have a

1:01:02.040 --> 1:01:05.120
<v Speaker 1>show called on Site, which is a late night therapy show,

1:01:05.680 --> 1:01:08.360
<v Speaker 1>and we just had our last one for the New

1:01:08.480 --> 1:01:10.440
<v Speaker 1>York Comedy Festival, so we're gonna be running it back

1:01:10.560 --> 1:01:11.280
<v Speaker 1>sooner than later.

1:01:11.840 --> 1:01:13.840
<v Speaker 6>So check them things out.

1:01:14.520 --> 1:01:18.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, hell yeah, follow Keith, go see the shows.

1:01:18.480 --> 1:01:19.560
<v Speaker 5>Bory what you got?

1:01:19.800 --> 1:01:19.920
<v Speaker 4>Uh?

1:01:20.080 --> 1:01:23.520
<v Speaker 2>Cool guy joke? Saty seven on Instagram. Oh, Strike's over,

1:01:23.840 --> 1:01:28.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm not to be on Exploding Kittens on Netflix. Hey, yeah,

1:01:28.080 --> 1:01:29.600
<v Speaker 2>you can watch that. We can talk about we can

1:01:29.640 --> 1:01:33.880
<v Speaker 2>get right Yeah, okay, yeah, So that's coming out I

1:01:33.880 --> 1:01:36.080
<v Speaker 2>think at the end of the month and then yeah,

1:01:36.200 --> 1:01:40.560
<v Speaker 2>just go on Instagram for dates and stuff like that.

1:01:40.640 --> 1:01:42.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm not touring that much to the top of the year.

1:01:43.040 --> 1:01:45.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm having a fire sale next week for all the

1:01:45.760 --> 1:01:48.880
<v Speaker 2>merch I didn't sell on tour, so I'll put that

1:01:49.000 --> 1:01:51.360
<v Speaker 2>info up on Instagram. But go to bring David to

1:01:51.400 --> 1:01:53.360
<v Speaker 2>play dot com. And if you wanted to get a

1:01:53.360 --> 1:01:55.960
<v Speaker 2>T shirt or a hat with a beach, or a

1:01:56.000 --> 1:01:59.760
<v Speaker 2>poster or a meal kit that I hit designed for

1:01:59.840 --> 1:02:00.680
<v Speaker 2>some reason.

1:02:05.040 --> 1:02:08.919
<v Speaker 3>Hell yeah, go buy up what's left of David's merch

1:02:09.640 --> 1:02:11.320
<v Speaker 3>for some reason, he marked it up.

1:02:11.440 --> 1:02:13.280
<v Speaker 2>It's actually gonna be now.

1:02:15.800 --> 1:02:16.240
<v Speaker 6>Prices.

1:02:16.840 --> 1:02:19.080
<v Speaker 2>I think you don't know how sales work. I got

1:02:19.200 --> 1:02:20.280
<v Speaker 2>I got.

1:02:23.560 --> 1:02:26.320
<v Speaker 3>Uh And as always, you can follow me at Langston Kerman.

1:02:26.880 --> 1:02:29.920
<v Speaker 3>I think this will come out too late for me

1:02:30.000 --> 1:02:32.760
<v Speaker 3>to be pubbing any like big shows that I'm coming up.

1:02:33.240 --> 1:02:35.360
<v Speaker 3>But go watch The Other Black.

1:02:35.080 --> 1:02:36.680
<v Speaker 2>Girl on on Hulu.

1:02:37.120 --> 1:02:39.480
<v Speaker 3>That was something that I did that came out in

1:02:39.520 --> 1:02:43.120
<v Speaker 3>the middle of our financial pandemic and and I think

1:02:43.160 --> 1:02:45.080
<v Speaker 3>it's cool and I'm proud to have been a part

1:02:45.120 --> 1:02:47.480
<v Speaker 3>of it. So go watch that on Hulu. So you

1:02:47.520 --> 1:02:50.200
<v Speaker 3>want to talk about interesting beanie placement, come on dog.

1:02:50.240 --> 1:02:54.800
<v Speaker 6>They go back to Ray J.

1:03:00.400 --> 1:03:02.560
<v Speaker 2>I will say. The director kept being like, can you

1:03:02.640 --> 1:03:03.920
<v Speaker 2>be more Raje?

1:03:05.520 --> 1:03:07.400
<v Speaker 3>But no, I'm gonna watch that. And as always, if

1:03:07.400 --> 1:03:10.240
<v Speaker 3>you want to send us your own drops, your own conspiracies,

1:03:10.280 --> 1:03:13.160
<v Speaker 3>if you want to explain to us why in fact

1:03:13.800 --> 1:03:16.960
<v Speaker 3>ray J is not the savior that we've been looking

1:03:17.000 --> 1:03:18.880
<v Speaker 3>for and there's someone else out there that we need

1:03:18.920 --> 1:03:20.800
<v Speaker 3>to be looking out on, send it all to my

1:03:20.880 --> 1:03:24.480
<v Speaker 3>mama pod at gmail dot com, follow us, subscribe, do

1:03:24.520 --> 1:03:28.640
<v Speaker 3>whatever bullshit you gotta do, YouTube, Spotify, We got a

1:03:28.960 --> 1:03:32.440
<v Speaker 3>social media My mama told me Pod, we want to

1:03:32.520 --> 1:03:34.960
<v Speaker 3>hear from you, and we were thirsty for you to

1:03:35.000 --> 1:03:38.120
<v Speaker 3>follow us, so so do it all. And that's the

1:03:38.160 --> 1:03:38.720
<v Speaker 3>whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>By bitch, Would you say that you're racist?

1:03:41.680 --> 1:03:42.480
<v Speaker 6>Not at all.

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<v Speaker 2>No, Look I'm a dog. He's as black as can be.

1:03:53.680 --> 1:04:00.480
<v Speaker 4>And a quality racist.

1:04:00.560 --> 1:04:04.200
<v Speaker 6>The osto player ows and money for.

1:04:04.360 --> 1:04:08.600
<v Speaker 4>She defended turkey stuffering. I can't help me about