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Speaker 1: This one Bill's Live, presented by Calida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, we're here on a Thursday. Bills are on

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Speaker 2: the practice field. We are a day closer to the

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Speaker 2: divisional playoff, which sits just two days, three and a

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Speaker 2: half hours away. It's a Saturday game, like all of

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Speaker 2: a sudden, It's gonna be honest, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, it's it's been a weird, weird week here because

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Speaker 3: of the schedule and all the stuff that changes. It's

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Speaker 3: not going to feel I think for most people who

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Speaker 3: don't like or not like you and me, it's not

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Speaker 3: gonna hit them until they finish work on Prime and

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Speaker 3: it's like tomorrow's game day. You won't hit him until

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Speaker 3: SAT's like, oh my gosh, yeah, and then he's not

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Speaker 3: until four thirty. But here's the beauty. But here's what

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Speaker 3: you look forward to. Certainly, if the Bills win, it's

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Speaker 3: gonna be awesome.

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Speaker 2: Man, that's gonna be crazy.

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Speaker 3: But man, oh man, having Sunday off to watch those

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Speaker 3: other games and kick back with them with a win

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Speaker 3: in your pocket.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that'll be good. Let's go. That would be nice. Beauty.

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Speaker 2: The word out of Denver is the uh fan base

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Speaker 2: after watching their team win thirteen or fourteen is tremendously overconfident. Overconfident.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, how do you know they're overconfident. They think

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Speaker 2: they're going to win this in a walk. Oh well,

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Speaker 2: they think the Bills have too many injuries and to

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Speaker 3: And we hope we have. I just hope we can

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Speaker 3: feel the full team.

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Speaker 2: That's all I can. Yeah. So's it's interesting that the

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Speaker 2: dialogue is pervasive. Confidence fan bases do.

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Speaker 3: Man, they hyperboleze the matchup. Okay, I know they listen

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Speaker 3: their hell, they gotta feel good. Man, it's been hyer

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Speaker 3: weeks since they've played. They they're anxious see their team. Okay,

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Speaker 3: they're mowing down people. The Denver Broncos have.

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Speaker 2: Won thirteen or fourteen, thirteen of fourteen. I feel like

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Speaker 2: the Denver fan base has turned into General Lee before

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Speaker 2: the Battle of Gettysburg and there he is standing on

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Speaker 2: top of the hill watching his soldiers retreat, full retreat.

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Speaker 2: And he's standing on top of the hill and he said,

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Speaker 2: I thought we were invincible. Well, it can happen to

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Speaker 2: the best of us. Yeah, I didn't know, it just happened.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I thought we were invincible. That's what he said, well,

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Speaker 2: there you go, because they were of the Union Army, left,

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Speaker 2: right and center, chasing them all the way up to

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Speaker 2: Pennsylvania for two years. He didn't really lose. He was

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Speaker 2: wiping the floor with every general they threw at him.

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Speaker 2: Well there you go until Grant showed up and Sherman

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Speaker 2: and the rest of the crew. Yeah, okay, turning point

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Speaker 2: of the war. This is not that too many military references. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: this is not that they go a bridge too far,

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Speaker 2: the one analogy too far.

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Speaker 3: So nevertheless, so I mean that's what fan base. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Denver fans have got to feel good about this.

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Speaker 2: Well, they haven't the one seed. They have goodness, haven't

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Speaker 2: been the one seed since twenty fifteen, and the last

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Speaker 2: time they were they won the Super Bowl. Yeah with

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Speaker 2: Peyton Manning.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's they're good, man, There's no two

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Speaker 3: ways about it. They're really good and they're gonna they're

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Speaker 3: gonna come out on fire.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you really got to withstand like the first ten

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Speaker 2: minutes of that game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's going to be an emotional crescendo, yes, an explosion.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that's the way it is, man. That Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's what we built.

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Speaker 3: That's the way diver fans should be acting. Bless their hearts,

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Speaker 3: all right, that's the way it goes. That's why it works. Fine,

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Speaker 3: you think Bills fans aren't if that game was coming.

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Speaker 2: Here, are you gonna tell me Bills fans are overconfident? Ever? Ever,

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Speaker 4: Right, That's why.

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Speaker 2: That's why, that's why I'm making an issue of this season.

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Speaker 3: Notwithstanding, tell me a time where fans collective over the

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Speaker 3: last three or four years, not this year with standing,

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Speaker 3: but pick a Dolphins game where the Dolphins were coming

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Speaker 3: here and the Bills fans weren't going weird with Tua.

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Speaker 3: I'm talking postseason here, Oh well, postseasons that, yeah, we

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Speaker 3: were smarter, no better? Yeah, yeah, you know, anybody can

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Speaker 2: Right, And that's my point. Yes, that's my point.

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Speaker 3: It's been a minute for well, No, they were in

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Speaker 3: it last year.

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Speaker 2: Though, yes, game here for the wildcard game, this week's game.

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Speaker 2: get right to the Bills practice updates, which are presented

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Speaker 2: by leecom your Lake Erie College of Osteopathic Medicine head

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Speaker 2: coach Sean McDermot addressed the media before practice today and

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Speaker 2: confirmed that cornerback Max Harrison and safety Jordan Poyer are

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Speaker 2: out for Saturday's game at Denver. That was to largely

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Speaker 2: be expected, neither of them have practiced this week. Running

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Speaker 2: Back Ty Johnson is giving it a go in practice today.

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Speaker 2: He's going to be limited and they'll assess his status

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Speaker 2: after practice. He has the ankle injury. The three IR

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Speaker 2: players who have been practicing this week at Oliver DeMar Hamlin,

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Speaker 2: Curtis Samuel will be assessed for activation later today. Hamlin

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Speaker 2: and Samuel will practice fully. Oliver limited in practice today.

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Speaker 2: All three IR players will be listed as questionable for

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Speaker 2: Saturday's game. So with the game on Saturday, your final

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Speaker 2: roster maneuvers regarding the fifty three man roster and their

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Speaker 2: practice squad elevations have to be done by four pm tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Usually for a Sunday game, it's Saturday at four pm.

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Speaker 2: Because the game's on Saturday, it's Friday at four pm.

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Speaker 2: So everything's moved up a day this week, So we'll

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Speaker 2: see what the ultimate decision is. Shavers got put on

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Speaker 2: they lost Shaves. Davis is already on IR. There's another

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Speaker 3: Well, I got to use one of them, at least

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Speaker 2: We're seeing the wide receiver. I would assume Samuels added

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Speaker 2: then they'll have to determine whether they feel they need

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Speaker 2: And you also have Jordan Hancock, so they may hold

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Speaker 2: their water on DeMar can't only down Jordan Poyer.

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Speaker 3: They can't hold their water at receiver. They got Coleman,

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Speaker 3: Cooks and Shakir and that's it. The only other guys

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Speaker 3: Of course, Wilkerson's on the practice squad, but then Curtis Samuel.

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Speaker 3: He's on his way back instead of just being dimmed out,

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Speaker 3: So there's a lot of possibilities there.

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Speaker 2: I would tend to think Wilkerson would be the fifth receiver,

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Speaker 2: provided he got back up to speed quickly in practice

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Speaker 2: this week after being away from the club for a

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Speaker 2: I say that is I see him filling the shaver's role.

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Speaker 2: He does. He can do a lot of the same

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Speaker 2: things physically that shavers can do. He's six to two,

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Speaker 2: he's two ten, he's put together, good blocker strong.

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Speaker 3: Well, you might think that Keon would move into that spot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but then okay, so now what are you doing?

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Speaker 3: Well, then he could put sam You could put Samuel

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Speaker 2: I think Samuel's a given. I was thinking of the

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Speaker 2: fifth guy. Who's your fifth guy? Is it Wilkerson or

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Speaker 2: Game, right, but that's what five plays.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's also something that takes Shakir off his plate.

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Speaker 3: It does, And yeah, so that might be. I think

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Speaker 2: I think if you shift Coleman to Shaver's role, I

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Speaker 2: because let's not forget Shavers also plays on special teams.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's a separate animal, and.

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Speaker 2: You can fill that with another position, to fill that with.

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Speaker 3: Two or three other guys from around the roster. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's it's it's an issue.

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Speaker 2: So I think it's a Wilkerson Hardman debate there, and

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Speaker 3: Want, You're gonna have Hardman will be the guy because

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Speaker 3: Wilkerson just got here and Hardman's Hardman's here and Wilkerson

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Speaker 3: was not for a reason, So that that's the move. Certainly. Wilkerson,

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Speaker 3: because he's b right, And I don't know that that'll

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Speaker 2: What's what's going on, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So yeah, I don't that's it's a real question.

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Speaker 3: We don't know. I don't know what they're how that

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Speaker 2: Got to have it. Yeah, it would be nice to

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Speaker 2: take pun returns off Shakira's plate and maybe get some

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Speaker 2: positive yardage in that area because they've they've let the

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Speaker 2: harder for the offense. You don't want to do that.

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Speaker 3: Against stim Yeah, we talked about We've been talking about

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Speaker 3: Sean Payton and he's totally he's completely famous for doing

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Speaker 3: the surprise onside in the Super Bowl and getting it

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Speaker 3: and doing it and the whole thing and they win

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Speaker 3: the game, and you know, he's a genius. I think

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Speaker 3: that kind of mentality is gonna, you know, permeate this

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Speaker 2: With the Broncos.

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Speaker 3: I think they see the I think they see it

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Speaker 3: despite what we were talking about with their fans. They

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Speaker 3: see this as a really tough team. The Bills are

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Speaker 3: all the stops to make sure they win. So they're

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Speaker 3: You know, they can't do surprise on sides anymore, but

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Speaker 3: they can fake punt, fake field goal, and they can

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Speaker 3: do like an end a round reverse or a throwback

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Speaker 3: kickoff that kind of thing. Yeah, I'm I'm almost positive

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Speaker 3: that that's on the on the menu for Broncos.

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Speaker 2: the New York Giants are finalizing in agreement to make

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Speaker 2: him their next head coach, and, barring any setbacks, a

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Speaker 2: deal is expected as soon as the end of the

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Speaker 2: day today. Deal is not final, contract numbers still being negotiated,

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Speaker 2: although there are reports it's a five year deal worth

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Speaker 2: one hundred million dollars. Harbaugh was the head coach of

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Speaker 2: the Race for eighteen seasons, won a Super Bowl there.

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Speaker 2: Giants have gone seven and twenty seven over the last

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Speaker 3: He's a really good player and he's been just well.

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Speaker 3: Here's what he chased the official down, Brad Allen. Oh,

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Speaker 2: After the game. They said that's a no no. After

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Speaker 3: They won the game, Yeah, against the Giants. So that's

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Speaker 2: I'd like him. Let's lead off shocking. I like that guy.

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Speaker 2: Let's lead uh, let's lead off the phone calls today

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Speaker 2: with Joe on a cell. What do you got for his? Joe?

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Speaker 5: Hey, how you doing?

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Speaker 2: Guys?

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Speaker 5: You caught me in the past. You guys are the best.

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Speaker 5: You're better than my psychiatrist. Oh, hey, my wife. She

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Speaker 5: and well, what do you guys think about that?

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Speaker 2: Wow?

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Speaker 5: I'll hang up and listen to your response.

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, Joe, this is Joe.

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Speaker 3: You this may I may come at this with a

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Speaker 2: Yeah? And not for nothing, Joe, even though you're a

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Speaker 3: She's a Jets fan. The current point in history, the

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Speaker 2: So that is that is interesting. I think she's kind

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I've now been out She's probably just

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Speaker 2: Think it's a coping mechanism. That probably is.

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Speaker 3: That's why she's camouflaged in Bill's gear, and she wants

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Speaker 2: What's up Bill?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was actually coming through some statistics and thanks

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Speaker 7: I think that the hero in this game against the

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Speaker 7: We're playing against bow Knicks aka bow Picks. I think

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Speaker 2: Nix has had a nice season. He's got more pass

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Speaker 2: attempts than anybody in the league. Did you see that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not afraid to throw it, and I think

436
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Speaker 3: that comes from Sean Payton. Yes, I think, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's it's one of those double edged things. Certainly, the

438
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Speaker 3: game's unfolded the way they unfold. But I think Sean

439
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Speaker 3: Payton wants in this year, which's face it. They didn't

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Speaker 3: come out of last year thinking, hey, we're going to

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Speaker 3: be the one seed. Well, I mean, Sean Payton was

442
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Speaker 3: very bullish on this team right from the very beginning. Yeah,

443
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Speaker 3: both face it. You know, they were ten and seven

444
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Speaker 3: last year and so they thought, Okay. I still think

445
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Speaker 3: Sean Payton is trying to help bo Nicks develop and

446
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Speaker 3: wants to give him every opportunity. He's throwing the football

447
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Speaker 3: on run neutral downs, you know what I mean. Yep,

448
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Speaker 3: they throw the football when it's when the stats and

449
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Speaker 3: down in distance will say they could do either. They're

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Speaker 3: throwing it in those situations. Everybody throws it when they

451
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Speaker 3: got to throw it, but when they could run or pass.

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Speaker 3: Sean Payton is giving bo Nicks a lot of experience

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Speaker 3: here in his second year, and it's you know, it's

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Speaker 3: a I think it's a smart thing to do. He's

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Speaker 3: gonna get better from it, He's gonna learn things from it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and learn faster, man, learn faster. I think that was

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Speaker 3: part of the overall design, let alone the fact that

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Speaker 3: they were winning games right and left. So I think

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Speaker 3: that's part and parcel of having a head coach who

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Speaker 3: has that kind of juice over the offense and during

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Speaker 3: the games and all that, and he's he's using it

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Speaker 3: to his advantage for the future as well as the present.

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Speaker 2: The other interesting thing that I saw on Bonix, and

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Speaker 2: this is probably also a byproduct of throwing more pass

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Speaker 2: attempts than anybody else in the league. He had the

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Speaker 2: most off target throws in the league as well, So

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Speaker 2: to our caller's point, there could be some opportunities for

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Speaker 2: some takeaways if he's not accurate with his ball placement.

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Speaker 3: So, I yes, you're right, it could happen. I have

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Speaker 3: always found it to be a little bit, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: dangerous to count on another person plan bad right.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying you count on it, it's just it's

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Speaker 2: it's a statistic that I think is worth Note.

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Speaker 3: You got a plan and prepare like there might play

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Speaker 3: such incidences like they're going to play their best. That's

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Speaker 3: what you got to prepare and plan for.

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Speaker 2: Break time for us here when we come back. More

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Speaker 2: of your phone calls. So if you're holding at eight

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Speaker 2: oh three oh five fifty, stay right where you are.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to you when we return here on one

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live presented by Collide of Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right back here, I want to live on a Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown scams answer with you and topic a discussion

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Speaker 2: today that we are posing to you is besides Josh Allen,

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Speaker 2: who will be the hero in a Bill's victory over

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Speaker 2: the Broncos? And why back to the phones we go

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Speaker 2: into Chris out in Wyoming. What's up? Chris?

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Speaker 8: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. Just real quickly.

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Speaker 8: I'm probably more confident in this team that I have

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Speaker 8: been in a very long time. They proved to me

491
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Speaker 8: last week have that they could win when it matters,

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Speaker 8: And for me, I just I feel like the offense

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Speaker 8: has room to go even higher. I don't think we've

494
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Speaker 8: quite hit our ceiling yet. And my question is, if,

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Speaker 8: for whatever reason, we don't go all the way this year,

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Speaker 8: what would you guys feel about? An upgraded offensive coordinator

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Speaker 8: would say a Mike mctaniel.

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Speaker 2: Well, you're are you assuming that Joe Brady's leaving for

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Speaker 2: a head coaching job, or you're just you just want

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Speaker 2: to replace him.

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Speaker 8: No, I think that I'm not saying that he needs

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Speaker 8: to go or should go, but I think if we're

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Speaker 8: going to take another step forward, and I think it

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Speaker 8: would player somebody with a little bit more offensive prowess.

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Speaker 8: And I think when you look at the field of

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Speaker 8: who's available, I mean, Mike McDaniel's longly been considered one

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Speaker 8: of the brightest offensive minds the league for a long time.

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Speaker 8: But I think that's quite a bit of an upgrade

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Speaker 8: if we had the opportunity to land him. And since

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Speaker 8: Miami let him go, I've been thinking that since the

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Speaker 8: middle of the year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear what you're saying.

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Speaker 3: Certainly, certainly any team on the offensive side of the

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Speaker 3: ball would benefit from Mike McDaniel being there. He's he's yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's a cutting edge offensive coordinator. He was a head

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Speaker 3: coach in Miami. He would be coveted by almost every

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Speaker 3: single team. Now, some teams don't want to do away

518
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Speaker 3: with their OC. All of that stuff is in the mix,

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Speaker 3: of course. Uh, it's yeah. The Bills would love to

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Speaker 3: have Mike McDaniel in the building. Joe Brady would like

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Speaker 3: to have him on his side, right it would you know,

522
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Speaker 3: the guy's really good at it, whether it's it's not

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Speaker 3: gonna happen. There's also a guy like Brian Daball who's

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Speaker 3: out there. Wouldn't you wouldn't the Bill You remember how

525
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Speaker 3: the Bills were with Dave Ball as their offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 3: That's why he got the head coaching job of the Giants,

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Speaker 3: he's available. But some of these guys, like Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 3: for instance, you know he didn't want to jump right

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Speaker 3: back into it. It's a grind, and it's even more

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Speaker 3: of a grind as a coordinator, even though you get

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Speaker 3: a call these shots and it's a big, high, high

532
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Speaker 3: profile job. It's a grind and you don't get to

533
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Speaker 3: you don't get you don't have any authority in the building.

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Speaker 3: The head coach does a lot of the a lot

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Speaker 3: of head coaches fresh out of are like, man, I

536
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Speaker 3: don't want to do it again. I've had a number

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Speaker 3: of them tell me that. So whether Mike McDaniels comes back,

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Speaker 3: they they may be a lot of these head coaches

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Speaker 3: who just you know, just got released maybe saying the

540
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Speaker 3: same thing that I'm telling you, I don't want to

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Speaker 3: coordinate for anybody. If I don't get a head coaching job,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna take a minute and take a deep breath

543
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Speaker 3: and relax for a hot minute a year, like Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, there's a lot of guys on this list.

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Speaker 2: He clearly sees McDaniel as an upgrade. The caller sees

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Speaker 2: him as an upgrade. I get it. I got a

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Speaker 2: lot of respect for McDaniel too.

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Speaker 3: Sure, because he was making chicken salad in Miami and.

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Speaker 2: You will have to change things though, Well, that's just it.

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Speaker 3: He seems to be a guy who can craft something

551
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Speaker 3: out of He crafted something out of nothing.

552
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Speaker 2: What are you gonna do?

553
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Speaker 3: And he give him some really good ingredients, yeah, you know,

554
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 3: like a quarterback. So yeah, that's true. And it's fun

555
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Speaker 3: for us as fans and media people to speculate about

556
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Speaker 3: who would fit where, and there's all these people saying, Wow,

557
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Speaker 3: wouldn't it be great if Brian flor has got a

558
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Speaker 3: head coaching job and brought Mike McDaniel in as his

559
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Speaker 3: offensive coordinator. You know, he can pick your team as

560
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 3: to wear. But yeah, but it rarely works out like

561
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Speaker 3: that because because of the human side of it, and

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Speaker 3: you know, where these guys are at it, are at

563
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Speaker 3: in their lives. Yes, it's fun to think about m hm.

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Speaker 3: But it's just a thought exercise, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Because I mean, I think the only way there's a

566
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Speaker 2: change there is if Joe Brady gets a head coaching

567
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Speaker 2: job somewhere right, right, and that that's just me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's yeah, and he's not gonna particularly now with

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Speaker 3: John Harbaugh getting hired reportedly going to be hired by

570
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Speaker 3: the Giants maybe even today. What happens typically, and Brownie

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Speaker 3: you mentioned this earlier. Once one team gets a guy

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Speaker 3: like a John Harball, everybody, it lights a fire under

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Speaker 3: the owners and the gms or all these people who

574
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Speaker 3: are hiring head coaches and gms. It really lights a

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Speaker 3: fire on them because they think the best guys are

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Speaker 3: all going.

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Speaker 2: To be gone. Yeah, it's musical chairs.

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Speaker 3: It's musical chairs, and you don't want to be the

579
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Speaker 3: person who hires the last guy, right, So it usually

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Speaker 3: picks up steam.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, quickly, let's go to Lori on a cell next.

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Speaker 2: Let me punch her up here. What's up Lorii?

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Speaker 9: Hi?

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Speaker 10: Guys, how are you good? So nice to talk with you. Okay,

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Speaker 10: so I'm going to rephrase what I was going to say,

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Speaker 10: since your question is who is going to step up?

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Speaker 10: And I feel that whoever it is, is the person

588
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Speaker 10: who basically decides that they are going to take the punishment.

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Speaker 10: Tony Romo made a comment after the last game against

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Speaker 10: Jacksonville that it was really which team, maybe which person

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Speaker 10: Josh Allen was going to just accept that they were

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Speaker 10: going to have to take some punishment to win this game.

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Speaker 10: And I think that, unfortunately, that's what this comes down

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Speaker 10: to lately, is understanding your role. There's and I want

595
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Speaker 10: to say it was the Jacksonville coach that talked about

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Speaker 10: the difference between a warrior and a hero and you

597
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Speaker 10: just got to be a warrior. So one of the

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Speaker 10: wide receivers, somebody is just gonna have to step up

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Speaker 10: and take some punishment and be a warrior.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I get that angle, LORI thanks for the call. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Liam Cohen had this whole commentary about the difference between

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Speaker 2: a warrior and a hero, saying the warrior doesn't really

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Speaker 2: care about the glory and all of that stuff heroes do.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's completely accurate, but you.

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Speaker 3: Know that's why they have different words for that. Yes,

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Speaker 3: you're right, it is going to hurt to play it.

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Speaker 3: It does every game. And like most people, people, fans

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Speaker 3: and media people tend to focus a lot on the

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Speaker 3: offense because you can see the production right away. You know,

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Speaker 3: you can see the yards they gain, you can see

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Speaker 3: the catches and the great runs. And but I would

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Speaker 3: you could flip it around also on that same thing

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Speaker 3: with who's going to want to take the hit or

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Speaker 3: you know, take the hit to win right. Uh, it

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Speaker 3: might be the guy who wants to throw himself into

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Speaker 3: the wheels of the chair. It might be the guy

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Speaker 3: who wants to deliver the blow to make the hit

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Speaker 3: to make the game, to win the game. So it's

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Speaker 3: not always about getting hit, but dealing out some punishment.

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Speaker 3: Giving Brownie, I was giving Brownie the low down on

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Speaker 3: the mindset of these guys when they're out there and

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Speaker 3: you know there's an unexpected turnover. Defensive guys go from

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Speaker 3: you you flip the switch. You're going from trying to

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Speaker 3: tackle somebody to trying to block somebody in an instant, uh,

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Speaker 3: And you're going from trying to chase the ball and

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Speaker 3: block somebody to try and tackle a different guy on

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Speaker 3: the other team. And an inn and some teams some

628
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Speaker 3: players don't make that switch as fast as others. That's

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Speaker 3: when he used to see guys get decleted and lifted,

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Speaker 3: you know, and blindsided. They're just not used to it.

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Speaker 3: Guys making those plays are the ones who may make.

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Speaker 2: The difference in this game when they.

633
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Speaker 3: Flip the switch the fastest, or when they're in a

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Speaker 3: position to be the guy that makes that flip that

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Speaker 3: switch flip, like the guy who catches the tipped interception

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Speaker 3: and goes the other way. Those are the ones. You're right,

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Speaker 3: everybody's gonna hurt in this game. It's just that's the

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00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 3: nature of the beast. You can't let it affect your job.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Cameron Hamburg next. What's up Cameron?

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Speaker 11: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. I was just

641
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Speaker 11: wondering why we don't pass it to James Cook Moore.

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Speaker 11: I was wondering that before the season started, and now

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Speaker 11: we're obviously down a lot of past catchers of I

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Speaker 11: was just wondering why we if you think maybe he's

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Speaker 11: incapable of it, or if it's if we do it

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Speaker 11: on purpose, we don't want to force.

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Speaker 7: It to him.

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Speaker 11: I think you should get like at least five targets

649
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Speaker 11: a game with how you see guys like bjohn and

650
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 11: McCaffrey impact the game. So just wondering what you guys

651
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 11: think about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an interesting question, Cameron, and I think it's

653
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 2: a valid one. Ty Johnson has been their designated third

654
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 2: down back, and that's a down obviously where you do

655
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 2: throw a lot, So he's out there for the majority

656
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 2: of those snaps. So that's off James Cook's plate. We

657
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 2: have seen games where he has been utilized in the

658
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 2: past game with success. Remember the Tampa game. He's out

659
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 2: there on a wheel route and he scores a touchdown.

660
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,919
Speaker 2: So he's more than capable. I don't have a good

661
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 2: answer as to why he is not utilized more now.

662
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 2: Ty Johnson is a question mark. This week. You're also

663
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 2: down to three healthy receivers. So if there was ever

664
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 2: a week where there was a chance to incorporate James

665
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 2: Cook into the passing game more, it might be this week.

666
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, James, he got three targets last game, and it

667
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,919
Speaker 3: didn't seem and you think about it was you didn't

668
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 3: even don't remember him happening. But he gets he got

669
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 3: three last game and also not for nothing. I know,

670
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 3: Hold on a second, what are you gonna see it?

671
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, right, not for nothing, but Ty

672
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 3: Johnson's really good at it, and you and if the

673
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 3: coaching staff feels like they don't lose anything by having

674
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 3: Ty Johnson on the on the field, take that off

675
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 3: James Cook's plate, so he didn't have to touch the

676
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 3: ball thirty five times, and so he's playing in the

677
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 3: divisional round of the playoffs instead of watching in a

678
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 3: walking boot or something like that. It's a load management

679
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 3: issue as well. Josh has total total trust in Ty Johnson.

680
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 3: Ty Johnson's proven he's really good at it. If you

681
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 3: can do that and take it off James Cook's plate,

682
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 3: do it, because that just means he can have three

683
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 3: more runs instead of ten more passing targets where he

684
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 3: catches five of them. Just hand it to him three

685
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 3: more times because he can go the distance anytime he's

686
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 3: got the ball in his hands. And I get it,

687
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 3: using more, using more, using more. You don't want to

688
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 3: use him all the time. That's one reason out about

689
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 3: all this, particularly in the fact that you got a

690
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 3: really capable guy to come in and take that load off.

691
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 3: James Cook weighs one hundred and ninety pounds. I know

692
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 3: he's had a great year. He's carried the ball three

693
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 3: hundred and nine times, which is one hundred in the

694
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 3: regular season, which is one hundred and one more times

695
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 3: than he carried it last year. Three hundred and nine

696
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 3: touches just getting it handed to him. Forget about his

697
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 3: pass catches.

698
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 2: And he has thirty three catches. I meant them.

699
00:37:55,080 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 3: So just yeah, I get it. More is better you

700
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 3: want to And in games like this when his winter

701
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 3: go home, yeah, maybe you do throw it at him

702
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 3: ten times and hand it to him thirty times, you know,

703
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 3: don't give it to anybody else. I get it.

704
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 2: He kind of half had a day off last week.

705
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 2: He only had fifteen carres.

706
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 3: Fifteen carries and it was only him and Josh running.

707
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 3: It was he He had fifteen, Josh had eleven. That

708
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 3: was the running game period. Nobody else carried it. No

709
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 3: Khalil Shakir on an end around, no Ray Davis, none

710
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 3: of that. It was James Cook and Josh Allen. So yes, now,

711
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 3: if you're gonna do it, these are the kind of

712
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 3: games where yeah, okay, you know what, we're gonna leave

713
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 3: him on the field, or we're gonna put ty Johnson

714
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 3: with him out there, particularly when we don't have Gabe

715
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 3: Davis and shaves.

716
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 2: So Ty Johnson is a question mark for Saturday. So

717
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 2: there you go.

718
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 3: I mean, you may get your wish and then you know,

719
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 3: and hopefully he's in one piece to play in the

720
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:51,919
Speaker 3: championship game if you can get there.

721
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 2: Yep. We are gonna take a break here, but when

722
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 2: we come back, we've got more of your phone calls.

723
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 2: So if you're holding an eight O three zero five fifty,

724
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 2: stay where we are as we are wide open for

725
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 2: those in our next segment. Here on One Bill's Live,

726
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Speaker 2: presented by col Out of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

727
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,920
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729
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 2: Heating Up. The Bills defense forcing turnovers obviously got two

730
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 2: last week. They have eleven interceptions in their last ten games,

731
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 2: counting last week's went over the Jags in the wild

732
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 2: card game, so that's nice to see. As we know

733
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 2: turnovers are critical in the outcome of games. Helped the

734
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 2: Bills seal the victory last week. Bnick says twenty five

735
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 2: touchdown passes eleven picks on the season, so hopefully that

736
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 2: trend for the Bills continues. Cooling down the Broncos defense

737
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 2: against slot wide receivers and tight ends, Steve's.

738
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 3: That's a good matchup for Buffalo. I think the running

739
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 3: backs and tight ends are gonna be important this week

740
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 3: more so than ever, just because of the roster makeup.

741
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 2: You're down in numbers at receiver. Yeah, that's last season

742
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 2: the Bills picked on j Kwon McMillan, the Broncos nickel corner.

743
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 2: They went after him a lot in coverage. Now they

744
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 2: drafted jah Day Barron, who also plays in the slot

745
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 2: to some degree, but he's had some struggles too. Those

746
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 2: guys have been picked on by opponents. Denver is only

747
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 2: twenty seventh in DVOA against passes to slot receivers, allowing

748
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 2: seven point six yards per attempt and against tight ends

749
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 2: this season, Steve, they have hold on. I got the

750
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 2: number here? Where you got it? Oh? I pulled it

751
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 2: up on this page. Sorry, I'm on the wrong page.

752
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: They've given up here. It is right here. Ninety five

753
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 2: receptions for one thoy fifteen yards and six touchdowns to

754
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 2: opposing tight ends this season. That is the one, two, three,

755
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 2: four or five, six, seven eight, ninth highest total in

756
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 2: the league this season. Yeah, that's a big number. And

757
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 2: the Bills are gonna have tight ends running around out there.

758
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, we've had That's where play action helps. I

759
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 2: know fans do it.

760
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 3: I do it in my head as well, where you

761
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 3: where you kind of exaggerate the game plan to think, Okay,

762
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 3: if we really did this really well, they'd be stuck.

763
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 3: And we've had people early in the week, all the

764
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,720
Speaker 3: way back on Monday calling and say, okay, here against Denver,

765
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 3: let's put Alec Anderson on the field with Jackson Hawes

766
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 3: Reggie Gilliam and go three tight ends to running and

767
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 3: just the snowplow them. And because you know, they're small

768
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 3: and light up front and they're the and we can

769
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 3: throw it to our tight ends and backs because that's

770
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 3: only the guys throw on the field. Uh, and let's

771
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 3: let's go at them, right, Yeah, awesome, because we don't

772
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 3: have to ride receivers anyway.

773
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 2: Right, We're just gonna mash.

774
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 3: We're just gonna go in there. We're gonna put six,

775
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 3: no seven, three hundred pounders on the field and we

776
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 3: are gonna well six three hundred pounders and then some

777
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 3: then three and fifty pounders, a couple of two hundred

778
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 3: pound backs, and let's go. I think you can spread

779
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 3: them out from there, right, Alec Anderson to the wide side,

780
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 3: you know, give them both hands.

781
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 2: Compression on it. Eligible, eligible, get me the fall.

782
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 3: I get it. And it's fun to think about coming

783
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 3: because we all it used to be this way with

784
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 3: the K gun, and people are still this way, the

785
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 3: people of my generation.

786
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 2: I don't know my generation.

787
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 3: You go back to the nineties and you think, man,

788
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 3: because we had that. We had a technological personnel, offensive

789
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 3: system that was just too much for a lot of teams.

790
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 3: It happened too fast, and the players were too good,

791
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 3: and the offensive line was too good. The running game,

792
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 3: the passing game. It was too good and too fast

793
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 3: to stop. And it was lightning. Let's go, and they think,

794
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 3: now you can come up with that again this week.

795
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 3: It's three tight ends, six offensive linemen, the running back

796
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 3: and we're gonna it's gonna be like one of those

797
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 3: trains with a snowplow on it. Let's go, right, it's

798
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 3: fun to think about coming up. I've got it. Here's

799
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:55,240
Speaker 3: what we did. Rika Eureka, here's what we do. Because

800
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 3: it even back in the day, it took a long

801
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 3: time for them to figure out how that k gun

802
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 3: thing was gonna worry that no huddle thing, you know, yep,

803
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 3: it just it's not just something like you know what,

804
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 3: let's you know what what, Hey, guess what, We'll just

805
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 3: do this. It's legal for us to put three tight

806
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 3: ends on the field and an offensive lineman, so we

807
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 3: you know, we'd be way bit. You know, it's fun

808
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 3: to think about because it it seems like getting work.

809
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones. At eight o three

810
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 2: oh five fifty into Ryan and Rochester. Next. What's up Ryan?

811
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 12: Hello, Wileman, first song Color. I appreciate everything you do. Uh,

812
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 12: I just wanted I wanted to call in and tell

813
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,720
Speaker 12: you a story about a Cheats fan that I saw

814
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,439
Speaker 12: wearing builds here. But that's superpolous now I can still

815
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 12: tell it if you want. But what I wanted to

816
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 12: call in was for the questions I'm going to answer.

817
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 12: I would like to answer if you know mine yea, yeah,

818
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 12: you know last year when That's hit that deal goal

819
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 12: against the Dolphins and he was lifted up, I'm and

820
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 12: he won the game for us. That was a hero moment.

821
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 12: He wasn't a hero the whole game. He was going

822
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 12: through the yips and he nailed it, and the entire

823
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 12: stadium was I thought the walls were going to crumble

824
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 12: down it was so loud. And for this game against

825
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 12: the Broncos, I would really like to see a moment

826
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 12: for Keon Coleman. I've said some negative things about him

827
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,479
Speaker 12: throughout the season. I know he's going through some things

828
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 12: with growing pains and everything, and I don't know what's

829
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 12: going on with him in the organization, but it'd be

830
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 12: really nice to have one moment. I don't know if

831
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 12: it's a game winning ball or a first down after

832
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 12: like third and twenty five where he just makes that

833
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 12: one and it's like, come on, dude, you can do it,

834
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 12: Like wouldn't that be a great redemption arc. It's just

835
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:43,240
Speaker 12: like it's we just need I would like him to succeed.

836
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 12: That's all I really want to say about that. The

837
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 12: other real quick thing at ten seconds, are we seriously

838
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 12: calling and questioning about offensive coordinators when the game is tomorrow? Yeah,

839
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 12: we just get through the game first, please.

840
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 2: Say, dude, But yeah, sure thing, Ryan, Yeah, I don't.

841
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 2: I'll be out. I don't care who the hero is

842
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 2: as long as he's wearing red, white and blue. But yeah,

843
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 2: Coleman would be an interesting one. And Coach mcdermo is

844
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 2: actually talking about that today because somebody asked him, you

845
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,280
Speaker 2: know the opportunity that sits in front of Keon, knowing

846
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 2: that you just lost two receivers and it's basically Cooks, Coleman,

847
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 2: and Shakir that are carrying the load of the position.

848
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 2: I think we anticipate Samuel will be in elevator, will

849
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 2: be added to the active roster, and then it's probably Hardman,

850
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 2: maybe Wilkerson as the fifth.

851
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 3: I'd be great.

852
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 2: I'd be great if he could do it. And he said, look,

853
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:35,879
Speaker 2: he's got a great opportunity in front of him because

854
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 2: he's going to play a ton. Steve mentioned on yesterday's show,

855
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 2: Tyrell Shaver's played more snaps than any other receiver on

856
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 2: this football team. He's not the most productive guy in

857
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 2: terms of receptions and receiving yards, but he filled a

858
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 2: defined role for this offense and that's got to get

859
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 2: filled and it's probably it's probably Coleman, who can do

860
00:46:55,600 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 2: all the same things physically that Shavers can do. So, Yeah,

861
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 2: there's an opportunity for him there this week, no question

862
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 2: about it. And if he factors in more in the

863
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 2: passing game then Shavers did previously well, then all the better.

864
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 3: And that may be possible, particularly if they get in

865
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Speaker 3: the red zone because Ryan Keon's got an act for that.

866
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Speaker 2: We'll see. Let's quickly go to Derek out in Denver.

867
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Speaker 2: What's up, Derek, Hey.

868
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 13: Thanks for taking my call.

869
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 14: Guys.

870
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 13: I'm a huge fan of used Taska from back when

871
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 13: you played. I'm obviously a member of Bills mafia out

872
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 13: here in the middle of Broncos country, and I just

873
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 13: want to answer your question. I think everybody's certain Josh

874
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 13: is going to do his thing, but I think I

875
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 13: listened to a lot of sports radio out here in Denver,

876
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 13: and they are worried about Cook going off. So I

877
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 13: think he needs to be fed the ball more, just

878
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 13: like Cameron said earlier, more in the passing game. But

879
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 13: I think Cook niece of Cook this week. They're also

880
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 13: out here overlooking the Bills defense, and I just I

881
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 13: think collectively the Bills are going to play like they

882
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 13: played Jacksonville, and then they're gonna handle their business and

883
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 13: the real quick. I just wanted to say, I hope

884
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Speaker 13: Peter comes in clutch against his old former team and

885
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Speaker 13: maybe he could be the big hero. Thanks guys.

886
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, but sure thing. Derek Sepra seven seasons with the

887
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 2: Broncos No stranger twenty thirteen to twenty twenty was his

888
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 2: tenure there. Had hit his career long there as you

889
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 2: might expect. Sixty four yards. So yeah, him bombing on

890
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 2: winning field goal, I'll take that. He might.

891
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Speaker 3: I don't know where Matt and his family make their home,

892
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 3: but that probably is a pretty good guest. They probably

893
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 3: might have a place.

894
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 2: Out there still, might you know what I mean? I

895
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 2: don't know where they signed up two thousand and seven

896
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 2: to twenty thirteen, now that I'm thinking about it, that's

897
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:40,240
Speaker 2: when he was in Denver.

898
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 3: Seriously, yeah, two thousand and seven. At least forty one.

899
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 2: Guy's been kicking for twenty something.

900
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 3: Years, bless his heart, man, or almost twenty years long time. Yeah,

901
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 3: he probably doesn't know a soul in that building. Not now.

902
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 2: They've changed owners and coaches.

903
00:48:58,680 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 3: Like four times.

904
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 2: Left in twenty thirteen.

905
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 3: They've changed ownership twelve years ago. Oh my gosh, think

906
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 3: about that.

907
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 2: He left a career ago.

908
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was there with von Miller.

909
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 2: He was there before von Miller, five years before von

910
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 2: got there in the twenty eleven draft. How about that.

911
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here. When we come back, we're

912
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Speaker 2: gonna be joined in studio by the Hall of Famer

913
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 2: Thurman Thomas. He's gonna give us his thoughts. I would

914
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:29,879
Speaker 2: like to get his thoughts on James Cook and how

915
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 2: he can be more effective this week than he was

916
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Speaker 2: last week. We'll see what Thurman has to say about

917
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Speaker 2: that when we return here on One Bill's Live presented

918
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Speaker 2: by Colida Help, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 1: This One Bills Live presented by Kaleida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we are our number two on a Thursday,

921
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Speaker 2: and that can only mean one thing here on One

922
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Speaker 2: Bill's Live. It means we're joined in studio by the

923
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Speaker 2: Hall of Famer Thurman Thomas, who I want to ask

924
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Speaker 2: right off the rip? Okay, we see the Bills against

925
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 2: the number one run defense. Last week. It's tough sledding

926
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Speaker 2: and Joe Brady chooses to use Khalil Shakir as a

927
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Speaker 2: replacement for the run game and he did that effectively.

928
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Speaker 2: This week, they go against the number two run defense

929
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 2: in the league in Denver. How do they make the

930
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Speaker 2: game more effective this week?

931
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Speaker 14: Well, I think, first of all, I think we have

932
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Speaker 14: to put Cook in the right position to be able

933
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 14: to run the football. Okay, would that be coming off

934
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Speaker 14: a turnover? You're talking about a long drive?

935
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Speaker 4: Because as if we saw like tied in play. So

936
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Speaker 4: I mean I was looking at Frank gild Jr.

937
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Speaker 14: There you know, you know, and I'm like, okay, it

938
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 14: was just him, right, And I'm thinking to myself, Okay,

939
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Speaker 14: what can we do now to go against a Denver team.

940
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Speaker 14: I think I think you will see Cook a little

941
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 14: bit more involved with the passing game, just just on

942
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Speaker 14: the fact of how Denver plays their defense. I mean

943
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 14: they're front four, can get after you. The linebackers. The

944
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 14: linebackers are pretty solid. I really do like them. But

945
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 14: I think in space, if you can do that with Cook,

946
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 14: Like come back to some of the checkdowns we ran

947
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 14: at the end of the end of.

948
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Speaker 4: The year, right, where are those that just no checkdown

949
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 4: five six yards or whatever?

950
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Speaker 14: But keep him involved with the football game, and like

951
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 14: those guys are they're they're front four or not big guys,

952
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 14: you know, they're they're kind of okay, well, either all

953
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 14: of the athletes and all of them can be defensive end.

954
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 14: They almost played with the defensive tackle, right, so yeah,

955
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 14: but they're small with a number one rushing. I mean,

956
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,479
Speaker 14: but I looked at their schedule, they ain't really played

957
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 14: too many good running backs play.

958
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 2: They did not.

959
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,439
Speaker 14: They did not, And this is a different atmosphere because

960
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 14: so in this game, you know, I see Cook being

961
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 14: a little bit more involved. And I think if the Bills,

962
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 14: if the Bill can win time or possession, I think

963
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 14: they win the football game and that and that's going

964
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 14: to be a key factor up in you know, the altitude,

965
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Speaker 14: and I have been up there once and blade and it.

966
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Speaker 3: Yeah, of course I only played like one player.

967
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 2: I guess maybe that.

968
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 4: I felt it a little bit up and there.

969
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 3: What did you think last week at Jacksonville when you

970
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 3: know the and they were kind of beating their head

971
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 3: against the wall in the run game. But they use

972
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 3: the passing game, the short passes, quick release to as

973
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 3: an extension of the running game. I mean, Khalil had

974
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Speaker 3: twelve targets, twelve catches.

975
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Speaker 2: And you know along of like twelve, I mean.

976
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 3: Everything he did was just real short and they just

977
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 3: ran the ball with him in a long handoff. Ka,

978
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Speaker 3: are you okay with that? What do you think?

979
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 2: Man? I'm okay with that.

980
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 14: I'm okay with you know, whatever Josh is comfortable with

981
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,839
Speaker 14: when he's playing against the defense, like Vance Joseph. I mean,

982
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 14: I mean whatever he's comfortable with. You know, he's going

983
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 14: to be able to change some plays up front, you know,

984
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 14: call him audible or whatever.

985
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 4: But I think.

986
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 14: He's at a point now where you know, he's like, man,

987
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 14: I can pretty much do whatever I want to do.

988
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 14: And I think even with being in Denver, I think

989
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,919
Speaker 14: I still think you still look for the long ball

990
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 14: with Brandon Cook. I still think you keep that in

991
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 14: your arsenal that you can use. You got to you

992
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 14: gotta threaten him with him. Oh you know they're going

993
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 14: to play you know, seven eight in a box on you,

994
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 14: you know, to take away that. So uh and I'm

995
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 14: not so Hey. Look, I think bow Knick's gonna be

996
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 14: out a good quarterback.

997
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 4: But we don't know yet. We don't know yet how

998
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 4: absolutely he's at a good year.

999
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,879
Speaker 14: But uh, you know you're the number one seed coming

1000
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 14: in against Josh Allen Buffalo Bill's who. Yeah, a lot

1001
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 14: of people think might get to the super Bowl. And

1002
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 14: it's what I said a couple of weeks ago about, Hey,

1003
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 14: I'm Josh Allen. You guys still need about a year

1004
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 14: or two because I'm coming for you. Because and it

1005
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 14: was a perfect example of that last week against Jacksonville.

1006
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Speaker 4: I think if.

1007
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 14: Even if they do get pressure, you know, we could

1008
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 14: still see some long runs by Josh to take off.

1009
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 2: What do you make because a couple of the new

1010
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 2: additions to their defense are veteran players, they felt they

1011
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 2: needed to add a veteran presence to their defense, and

1012
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 2: they did that with two guys they sign in free

1013
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 2: agency from San Francisco, who founded the safety and Drake Greenlaw,

1014
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 2: the linebacker. How can veteran players that have been through

1015
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 2: a lot of those playoff wars of the past help

1016
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 2: a young defense like Denver in a spot like this.

1017
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 14: And you said that, and you look at Jacksonville defense,

1018
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 14: you know, I mean, they played well, but you know,

1019
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 14: do they have that veteran Did they have a veteran

1020
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,919
Speaker 14: I don't really know. The guy that they had maybe

1021
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 14: went for seven or eight years have been I think

1022
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 14: it might have been Josh Allen of the defensive end,

1023
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 14: But I think with these guys, they're absolutely they've been

1024
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:37,959
Speaker 14: there before. I know Greenlaw, I've seen him play before

1025
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 14: when he played for the San Francisco forty now, you know,

1026
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 14: and I think we have that here. You know, those

1027
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 14: guys can calm those guys down rather than a coach can't,

1028
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 14: because obviously you got your coach, but you got a

1029
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 14: guy who's been in that position, who's done these things.

1030
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,800
Speaker 14: And I think that helps, you know, to have a

1031
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 14: veteran guy on the side. I mean, I enjoy having

1032
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 14: Jordan Poor you here, you know, to help these guys,

1033
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 14: you know, And we talked about it like all the time,

1034
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 14: like and who came up with the interception? Man, Cole Bishop.

1035
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 14: We've been talking about Cole and and you know, I've

1036
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 14: heard stories about him, you know, like you know, like

1037
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 14: he don't wantn't he does, doesn't want to really do

1038
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 14: anything but just study the game. And I think that

1039
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 14: goes along with being being right there with Jordan Pot.

1040
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 14: I think that veteran leadership leadership has really carried into him.

1041
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 14: And man, when he you had the old you had

1042
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 14: the old guy and Trey White ball in the air.

1043
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:36,879
Speaker 14: He's already signally like that was great man. That's that communication,

1044
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 14: like Cole is gonna be in the right place at

1045
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 14: the right time, because if you look at it, it

1046
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 14: wasn't really a good throw like you should have went

1047
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 14: it was, yeah, exactly, the trade was there.

1048
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 3: And that's that's that nine pass defense in that game,

1049
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 3: which is amazing. The corners, safeties and even the d

1050
00:56:56,200 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 3: lineman batting him down. H they're really playing well against

1051
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 3: the pass right now. The run game is still you know,

1052
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 3: he's still gotta got to be better, right, and they

1053
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,240
Speaker 3: get some help because the offense is usually pretty efficient

1054
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 3: and they feel like, well, they're not going to have

1055
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 3: enough possessions. Uh, so they you know, they're gonna throw

1056
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 3: the football, and they do well enough at times in

1057
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 3: the run game, they'll do it's straight a couple of

1058
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 3: plays together, all of a sudden, two run plays in

1059
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 3: their own Now it's third and eight or third and

1060
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 3: ten or three. Well, so they get into the third

1061
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 3: game they do. So their defense has has really Brownie's

1062
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 3: been uh reciting the numbers. The Bill's defense ranks higher

1063
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 3: from week ten to now than the Denver Broncos does.

1064
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 3: The number of pass coverage, a number of categories. They've

1065
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 3: really upped it a notch even though they're not getting.

1066
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 2: Sacks including takeaways, get a lot of sacks.

1067
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Speaker 14: Isn't that around games of six or seven games that

1068
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 14: you're talking about, Like Shaq Thosson got his first start

1069
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 14: and he was like, yeah, this is the way we

1070
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 14: got to bring it every single week.

1071
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Speaker 4: I think with him being out there.

1072
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Speaker 14: And we talked about that leadership with green Law, this

1073
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 14: is our leadership right here. And those guys forty two

1074
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 14: got to keep forgetting this. Williams, I've seen them a

1075
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 14: lot on the field.

1076
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and he's a big part of that three

1077
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 2: three five Nickel package and they him as a rusher.

1078
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, and those guys can move.

1079
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 14: Shack can still move, and so I think, you know,

1080
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 14: you're seeing a different defense totally rid of because I mean,

1081
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 14: I need they have like guys that can run, you

1082
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 14: know what I'm saying, guys that are really good in space.

1083
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 14: And the leadership is just he's been huge, man, He's

1084
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 14: been huge for this defense.

1085
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1086
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 3: That What are your thoughts now you see this, We're

1087
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 3: watching this pickoff by Shaq Thompson. Shaq grabs it and

1088
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 3: takes off the other way. Your thoughts about the quarterback

1089
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 3: making the tackle Trevor Lawrence back. I told Brown of this.

1090
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 3: Back in the day, you'd hear the defenders going, get

1091
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 3: the quarter get the quarters man, and you know, Trevor

1092
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 3: Lawrence comes in, he breaks down, makes this tackle. Nobody

1093
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 3: trying to block him, and they don't back in the day,

1094
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 3: and they wouldn't have cared who else was trying to

1095
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 3: make the tackle. The quarterback was not going to make.

1096
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 3: The quarterbacks entered up in.

1097
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 4: The first row, right, you'd have three guys going, that's.

1098
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 3: Right, and they'd be on top of him if he

1099
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 3: If it's a little different, there's it's a little different now.

1100
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 3: It's a little different now, but it's not different if

1101
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 3: the quarterbacks coming up trying to make a play.

1102
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 4: To make a play, if he's trying to make he's

1103
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 4: trying to make a play.

1104
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 3: Fair game, yes game in this case, he comes up,

1105
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 3: makes a tackle.

1106
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 14: But I think that initials thought from a defensive lineman

1107
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 14: or the linebackers like, I can't hit him, I might get.

1108
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 4: Caught called for a penalty. Man, you gotta back then

1109
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 4: you gotta light him up.

1110
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 3: You think do you think they had taken it easy

1111
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 3: on Josh if he was doing that.

1112
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 4: He didn't take it easy on Josh this game here,

1113
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 4: they would they would have come after it. I just

1114
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 4: and that's probably going.

1115
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 3: I know it sounds cheap, right, because we don't want

1116
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 3: our guy to get cheap. It's not cheap, it's free.

1117
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 3: There's a difference. It's free, and you got to take

1118
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 3: the free stuff. So I'm saying right now, Josh, he's

1119
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 3: gonna come in try and be a football player. Remind

1120
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 3: him why he eight?

1121
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 4: That's but what that might be a challenge to Josh.

1122
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna.

1123
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 4: He's doing everything else. He's doing everything else, so why.

1124
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 2: Not I want to run something else past you? Because,

1125
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 2: as you know, two of the top five receivers on

1126
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 2: the roster went to IR this week, Shavers and Davis. Uh.

1127
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 2: Your team went through a similar thing. I believe it

1128
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 2: was the ninety five playoffs where this guy to your

1129
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 2: right had to step in and receive her a little

1130
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 2: bit more along with you know, another player or two

1131
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 2: at the receiver position.

1132
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 3: How do you.

1133
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 2: How do you like recalibrate as an offense when you

1134
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 2: have to insert players into your passing game like that

1135
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 2: in a week's time.

1136
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 14: Yeah, what I think now is that you know we've

1137
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 14: been kind of talking about it, but not talking about

1138
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 14: it all year long. I mean, this is a time

1139
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 14: for key on Coma to really step up, Like like,

1140
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 14: I hate those guys are gone, but I think he

1141
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 14: can replace both of those guys. I mean, even with

1142
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 14: the Slaton rosson, even with coming in and being part

1143
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 14: of the running it. Maybe cam Coleman is a big dude,

1144
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 14: and if he puts his mind to what he needs

1145
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 14: to do right now, because he's back in the spotlight now.

1146
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, but even in the more general sense, the guys

1147
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 3: that are gonna be on the field are gonna be

1148
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 3: guys who have been in the building and know the words.

1149
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 3: You know, Josh's gonna know what they're saying, They're you know,

1150
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 3: they're gonna know the offense. They're gonna have taken reps

1151
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 3: in the offense. They're gonna probably played in the games.

1152
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 3: At this point with all these injuries, all the injuries,

1153
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 3: all these guys have been rotated through. I don't think

1154
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,919
Speaker 3: you know a guy like Wilkerson who they just signed

1155
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 3: the practice squad and he was in training camp with

1156
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 3: him and he's he's a physical specimen. He's not I

1157
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 3: don't think he's on the table for this game because

1158
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 3: they want guys who I mean, you gotta be you

1159
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 3: gotta know what you're doing. But up you got to

1160
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 3: be buttoned up. And I think I think that lowers

1161
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 3: the many it's Curtis Samuel if he's a vail Hardman

1162
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 3: to Mikoel Hardman, Micole Hardman might be availab And then

1163
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 3: like Keon, Keon's gotta play bigger. He's gotta take more snaps.

1164
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 4: I most certainly do.

1165
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 14: And I think you get him in, you get him

1166
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 14: involved in a ball game early, so he's not out

1167
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 14: there on the island, you know, he's just you know,

1168
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 14: I've been ten plays and they ever came by way

1169
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 14: just yet. You know what, get him get him early.

1170
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 14: Be going to be doing a running game, so I

1171
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 14: think he will be involved early with that. So I think,

1172
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 14: you know, his mindset had to be, I'm this is

1173
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 14: the time for me to shine. And uh, I hope

1174
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 14: he does well.

1175
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 6: Man.

1176
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 4: I mean, I really like the kid.

1177
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 14: You know, Andre said so many good things about him.

1178
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 14: You know, it's just some things that you know that

1179
01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 14: come up or whatever.

1180
01:02:58,400 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 2: Man.

1181
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 4: I mean, I can remember the first day when he

1182
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 4: got here. Man, he was just he was just funny.

1183
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 14: Could he take some cookies and all this other stuff,

1184
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 14: and you know, and it you know, sometimes it can

1185
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 14: backfarrow you, and it did unfortunately for him. But I

1186
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 14: think this is a golden opportunity for him to come

1187
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 14: out and play one is probably his best if it

1188
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 14: we're looking at it, it should be his best game

1189
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 14: as a Buffalo bill, right. If he's usual, right, and

1190
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 14: if he's on, he's on cute.

1191
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 3: Right, It's yeah, it'll be interesting to see, no question.

1192
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 3: But by the same tog, you look back at and

1193
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 3: we're watching highlights of the Jet game, and you forget

1194
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 3: in the Jet game he had three targets put right.

1195
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 4: There, right there that point that two more conversion right there.

1196
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 4: That was just a lot of frustration. That's all that was,

1197
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 4: was a lot of frustration, like like thea, let me

1198
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 4: pump the ball. I just need to do something, you know,

1199
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 4: and just let it all out. So it was I

1200
01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 4: thought that was real cute.

1201
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 3: It'll it's gonna be interesting to see. I mean, it's

1202
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 3: they're gonna need him. Everybody's gonna have to it's all hands. Yeah,

1203
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 3: they're gonna need everybody playing their best.

1204
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 2: We saw Alec Anderson reinserted on offense, it was only

1205
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 2: three snaps as a sixth offensive lineman. Now most of

1206
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 2: the season it's been Jackson Hawes. And you know, two

1207
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 2: tight ends or three tight ends or two tight ends

1208
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 2: with Reggie on the field, is there anything to be

1209
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 2: explored there? Further, do you think to go bigger against

1210
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 2: the Broncos?

1211
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 4: I mean, it could happen.

1212
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 14: So we talked earlier about how not real big defensive

1213
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 14: line or so yeah, I mean, what what are they

1214
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 14: gonna do?

1215
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 4: Only they are gonna do it?

1216
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 14: Just bring another linebacker, That's all they're gonna do, right, So,

1217
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 14: I mean, so obviously he'll be in a position to

1218
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 14: be like, it's just a linebacker.

1219
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 4: It's just a guy that would normally get if I

1220
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 4: was just starting five.

1221
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 3: So yeah, the kind of thing that you see in

1222
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 3: games like this is you'll get into them if you

1223
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 3: go heavy, go like six offensive line and three tight

1224
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 3: and go heavy. What a lot of teams will do

1225
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 3: what I've seen happen. And you remember, you know, like

1226
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 3: Teddy Marsha bro to to walking us through this, they

1227
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 3: got into these big people like this, and then every

1228
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 3: time they were in it, they'd throw out of that

1229
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 3: and because the other team would match with heavy people

1230
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 3: and our big people were better in the passing game

1231
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 3: than their big people were in the past defense game.

1232
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 3: And then conversely, you'd go real light, go three or

1233
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 3: four wide and come out, condense the format and run

1234
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 3: out of it because of the formations and the because

1235
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 3: of the matchups of the defense. So both things can

1236
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 3: be true. I mean, you could go heavy and throw it,

1237
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 3: or go light and run it, or vice versa. You

1238
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 3: can you can do the obvious as well. Spread, spread

1239
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 3: them mountain, throw it or condense it down, go heavy

1240
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 3: and just hand it off. But both those things you'll

1241
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 3: see exploited. If it's there, If the Bills think it's

1242
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 3: there offensively, yeah.

1243
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 4: You know, and and don't back off of it. If

1244
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 4: it's working, it's gonna be it's going to be a

1245
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 4: close game.

1246
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 3: They're not gonna take much off the menu.

1247
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 14: But I think if if Cook is having a great

1248
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 14: first quarter, first series or two running the football, I

1249
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 14: think that kind of determines it out what kind of

1250
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 14: game we're going to have, wear it out, what kind

1251
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 14: of game we're going to have. And and even with that,

1252
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 14: I mean, I still continue to look at Josh's numbers

1253
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 14: in the playoffs, it it is unbelieving. I'm still like,

1254
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 14: if I wasn't a football fan, I look at those numbers,

1255
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 14: I would think he would have at least two super

1256
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 14: Bowl Yeah. Just by looking at those numbers, I mean

1257
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 14: they're at least the only the only guy to ever

1258
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 14: do whatever you just did, right, I mean.

1259
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 2: Well yeah, and I think he's the only quarterback with

1260
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:55,520
Speaker 2: a postseason wins without an appearance in the Super Bowl.

1261
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 3: Right, he's on a list with I was showing theirm

1262
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 3: in this. Some may just put it out. He's on

1263
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 3: a list with I believe it's Brady Mahomes and.

1264
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 2: Joy Aikman.

1265
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 3: Uh, the only guys to win a playoff game in

1266
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 3: six consecutive years. All three of those other guys have

1267
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 3: three Super Bowls at least three Super Bowl appearances, and

1268
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 3: Josh has you know, as we know, he's got zero.

1269
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 3: That's Uh, that's when Bills.

1270
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 4: Fans ill you, man.

1271
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 14: I mean he if he keeps performing like this, and hey,

1272
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 14: look I don't I don't talk about the other guys,

1273
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 14: but with the roster that he has for offense to

1274
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 14: go to the Super Bowl, I mean, you're gonna either

1275
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 14: go to New England or the Texans again and win

1276
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 14: that and probably gonna go against probably one of the

1277
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 14: probably the best team in the league, I think Seattle

1278
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 14: if they if things supposed to go that way and

1279
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 14: he does that, I don't even know what to say. Yeah,

1280
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 14: the possibilities, right are there for all of this, And

1281
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 14: I'm not trying to you know, I'm a buffalo bill.

1282
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 14: I'm gonna hype my I want to believe that's what's

1283
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 14: going to happen.

1284
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:20,640
Speaker 2: Right, And so, what are your thoughts about the potential

1285
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:24,720
Speaker 2: of Ed Oliver being reinserted into the lineup. What kind

1286
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 2: of difference could he make if he's clear to play

1287
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 2: this week.

1288
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 4: I think he can make a great difference. I mean

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Speaker 4: he started off on fire, right, yeah, oh.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean the first game right he's ever had,

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01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:38,560
Speaker 14: you know, and all of a sudden, you know, you

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01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:41,760
Speaker 14: get injured, and so you know, I think he's going

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01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 14: to be a little if he does get the play.

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01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 14: I mean, it's he's probably going to be like coming

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01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 14: out or whatever because he has a play. But I

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01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 14: think with him not getting as many plays, he can

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01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 14: assert himself a little bit more, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 14: Even with the altitude, man, to keep that, I mean,

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01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 14: just to I guarantee the guys wanting back there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, a certain elementary.

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Speaker 3: Here's what happens. And I was I was a victim

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01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 3: of this because I never got to play offense right

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01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 3: for like a long time. And then when you get

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01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:12,840
Speaker 3: in you're adrenaline takes over and you and you know

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01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 3: you've been playing football for six months. Your adrenaline takes

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01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:19,640
Speaker 3: over and you're you're gassed. In about a play and

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01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 3: a half one I'm talking about one and a half plays,

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01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 3: you feel like there's no oxygen like something. You're you

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01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 3: because you're adrenaline takes over and you're, Uh, that's what

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01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:30,600
Speaker 3: will happen with Ed. He'll get out there in that altitude,

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01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 3: he'll play like a snap and a half and he'll

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01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 3: be like falling down.

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01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 2: It's he hasn't played in three months.

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01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:39,639
Speaker 3: You're adrenaline kicks in and you're done.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 3: You really got to learn to overhyped. Just you know,

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01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 3: you're not calm down. You're adrenaline pops and you want

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01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:53,760
Speaker 3: to know so so he'll he's it's going to take

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01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 3: him a series.

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01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 2: And a half to.

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Speaker 3: Remember that. You know, all right, this is long game

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01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:03,719
Speaker 3: and we're in Denver and what therm?

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Speaker 2: Thanks for stopping by. Enjoy the game on Saturday. Don't

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01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 2: forget it's a Saturday game.

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Speaker 4: They put us on a Saturday.

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01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 2: Well, I knew that they could not put the winner

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01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 2: of the Pittsburgh Houston game on Saturday because they only

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01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 2: played on Monday, right, So you knew that was gonna

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01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 2: be a Sunday game. So knowing that and the likelihood

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01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:26,760
Speaker 2: that they were gonna split the AFC and NFC games

1331
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 2: up one on one day, one on the other day,

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01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 2: it kind of didn't leave much wiggle room. It's all right,

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01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 2: that's why you like being the one seed. You get

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01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 2: to sit at home and watch the other team play

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01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:40,640
Speaker 2: a whole game and get beat up.

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Speaker 14: And yeah, yeah, and I think it too. Just before

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01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 14: we go off the air, I think like Denver. I

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01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 14: think Denver is going to probably want to speed it

1339
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 14: up a little bit. I mean, they ain't played him

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01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:53,680
Speaker 14: with thirteen days. Yeah, I mean, their timing is not

1341
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 14: gonna bet they're gonna feel great, but their timing has

1342
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:58,760
Speaker 14: to be there though, Yeah, tim it has to be there.

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01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 2: I think their defense will come out on fire. And

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01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 2: I think the.

1345
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 4: Crowd and they want their defense out there first.

1346
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 3: In fact, they're the one seed and now they're fans.

1347
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 3: Get to tell them how much they appreciate it. Yeah,

1348
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 3: I think this is going to be a madhouse out.

1349
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 2: There, Thurm. Thanks as always, trade the game on Saturday.

1350
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,760
Speaker 2: We'll catch up with you next week. Got to take

1351
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 2: a break here, but more of your phone calls when

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Speaker 2: to get yours. This week's winter is William, who asks

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01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 2: what were your feelings about going from Northwestern that lost

1364
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 2: so much then to Houston that was kind of mediocre,

1365
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:21,799
Speaker 2: then getting traded to Buffalo who didn't win many games.

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01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 2: Were you starting to feel a little cursed answer?

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01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 3: That's yes, I was thinking it might be me. I

1368
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 3: went to Houston Northwestern University. My college coach at the

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01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 3: time I got recruited. I came out of a community

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Speaker 3: college and from Dodge City, Kansas, and went to Northwestern,

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01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 3: got recruited. The head coach was Dennis Green. Denny Green

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01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 3: a great coach. This was before we went back to

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01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 3: Stanford and then before he became the Minnesota A head coach,

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01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:51,679
Speaker 3: and then also before he became the Arizona Cardinals head coach.

1375
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 3: They are who we thought they were. That was my

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01:12:54,640 --> 01:13:01,560
Speaker 3: college coach, and we set the NCAA record for consecutive

1377
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 3: losses by Division I school and football.

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01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:04,880
Speaker 2: They were oh.

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01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 3: I was there for oh and three start to our season,

1380
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:09,720
Speaker 3: which was the end of the streak, and it was

1381
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 3: oh and thirty four, zero wins in three years, oh

1382
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 3: and thirty four, and they were oh and three into

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01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 3: the fourth year, and we finally won a game and

1384
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:25,640
Speaker 3: then went then we went, uh we went three and

1385
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:27,560
Speaker 3: or five and three, three and five the rest of

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01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:28,479
Speaker 3: the way or whatever.

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01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 2: We wanted.

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01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 3: Three It was the happiest three and eight football bank

1389
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 3: which you have ever been to in your life. They

1390
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 3: were just so pleased not to be and eleven. So

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01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 3: uh there was that. When I went to Division one school,

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Speaker 3: I loved. Northwestern was the best thing ever happened to me.

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01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 3: It was great school. Went got drafted by the Houston Oilers. Uh,

1394
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 3: I was a two hundred and twenty sixth player taken overall.

1395
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 3: They they were drafting number two overall that year.

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01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:00,640
Speaker 2: Uh who was it that?

1397
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it was the Buffalo Bills drafting number one.

1398
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 3: They drafted Bruce the year I came out, I was

1399
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 3: he was number one. I was to twenty six. So

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01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:12,760
Speaker 3: I go to the Oilers and the jokes around that

1401
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:16,640
Speaker 3: locker room were because they weren't very good. They had

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01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:18,599
Speaker 3: gotten war in Moon the year before remember they played

1403
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 3: they were they were paying him a million bucks a year,

1404
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 3: big time free agent hired his Canadian head football coach

1405
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 3: because he was in the CFL. Was all that was

1406
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 3: going on, won like six Gray Cups.

1407
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 2: He was a fan.

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01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:34,680
Speaker 3: He was a phenomenal player. So uh, they still were

1409
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 3: struggling to win games. And the joke around the locker

1410
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:41,639
Speaker 3: room was there was only two places that were worse

1411
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:44,759
Speaker 3: to play than Houston record wise, was Green Bay because

1412
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 3: they were at that time, they were bad. It was

1413
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 3: way way before Brett Farr, Lenn Dickey. Yeah, and it was.

1414
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 3: And it was Buffalo, of course, you know, Buffalo was

1415
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 3: two and fourteen, two and fourteen, and then at the point,

1416
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:00,760
Speaker 3: you know, the next year they'd go one eight before

1417
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:02,600
Speaker 3: they made their head coaching switch, which is why I

1418
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:06,720
Speaker 3: got to be in Buffalo. So the Oilers are struggling.

1419
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 3: I get picked, I get I was injured, and they

1420
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 3: were going to activate me. I get activated, but before

1421
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:13,639
Speaker 3: they could do that, they had to pass me over waivers.

1422
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:15,760
Speaker 3: Marvi had just gotten the job, and the Bills picked

1423
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 3: me up off the waiver wire because they were the

1424
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 3: first team with a chance.

1425
01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 2: At first pick.

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01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 3: I don't know if anybody else put in bid I

1427
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 3: was shocked that anybody knew who my name was, let

1428
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 3: alone put a bid in for me. But one of

1429
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 3: the coaches on the Oiler staff my rookie year was

1430
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 3: on Hank Bullet's staff, who Marv took over for. He said, hey, Marv,

1431
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:37,120
Speaker 3: and he knew me, and he liked me. He said,

1432
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 3: let's go. So I come up here and you know

1433
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:43,639
Speaker 3: they're one and eight. I go from the Oilers who

1434
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:49,599
Speaker 3: were stinking to the Bills who were worse after leaving

1435
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 3: the O and thirty four Northwestern Wildcat. Yeah, I thought

1436
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:58,160
Speaker 3: this is my lot in life. H I'm I'm this

1437
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:02,560
Speaker 3: is my football life. A lot of losing lots. It

1438
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 3: worked out lots and lots. Yeah, so there you go. Yeah,

1439
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 3: I did start thinking it was me.

1440
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:08,679
Speaker 2: It's interesting.

1441
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 3: I mean I questioned it because there's something isn't you know?

1442
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 3: I am what can I always think? What SERI on

1443
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 3: a serious listen, I don't want to be the guy

1444
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 3: that makes it causes it. But I also don't want

1445
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:24,240
Speaker 3: to be the negative rabbits foot either, the guy whoever

1446
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 3: team I'm on gets to lose for a season or two.

1447
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. That was it was a my rough go.

1448
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 3: My football life did not start out in the Super Bowl.

1449
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. Total Sports Buffalo is back with another round

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Speaker 2: of mystery boxes for the divisional round. You could pull

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1453
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Speaker 2: Now to secure yours, we got to get back to

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Speaker 2: the phones at eight oh three oh five point fifty one,

1455
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:57,599
Speaker 2: eighty eight, five fifty two, five fifty aside from Josh Allen,

1456
01:16:57,600 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 2: who will be the hero when a Bill's victory over

1457
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:03,599
Speaker 2: the Broncos? And why would he in Rochester's up next?

1458
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 2: What's up? Would he?

1459
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 8: Hey?

1460
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 15: Guys, I just wanted to comment, longtime fan, been to

1461
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 15: all the Super Bowls. That's when a common man could

1462
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:15,759
Speaker 15: afford to go to a super Bowl and it wasn't corporate.

1463
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:22,680
Speaker 15: I'm sixty four, so I was lucky enough to my

1464
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 15: father took me to the old stadium. So next year

1465
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 15: I'll be able to say I've been to three stadiums.

1466
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:36,480
Speaker 15: Quick comment on possibly the Dolphins stadium or the Dolphins

1467
01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:42,559
Speaker 15: possibly selling their franchise. And my last comment, which totally

1468
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 15: befuddels me, is why Max Harrelson and maybe I pronounced

1469
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 15: his last name wrong, is injured and got injured in

1470
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:53,640
Speaker 15: the Jets game, which he never should have been in.

1471
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 15: That game meant nothing. And I believe we were up

1472
01:17:57,360 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 15: twenty six points when he got hurt. That I put

1473
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 15: that on the coach and I'll stop and listen, thank you.

1474
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, here's the thing. They didn't have anybody else

1475
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:12,040
Speaker 3: to play. I mean, they're trying to rest everybody.

1476
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:15,519
Speaker 2: You can't ask Benford, and they had played for Davius

1477
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:18,280
Speaker 2: White early in the game and then sat him down right,

1478
01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:20,440
Speaker 2: so you were down to Hairston.

1479
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 3: And that they were just trying to get through that

1480
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 3: game with the guys that they had on the roster.

1481
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 3: That's one issue that has always been there in the

1482
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:33,519
Speaker 3: late games in a season, when teams are in the

1483
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 3: position the Bills are in. There was It wasn't just

1484
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 3: the Buffalo Bills either there it's a couple of handful

1485
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:41,360
Speaker 3: of teams every single year or right where the Bills were,

1486
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 3: they're in the playoffs, and if they don't care about seeding,

1487
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:47,559
Speaker 3: they want to rest their players, and there's a lot

1488
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 3: of conversation about what that means. You know, Josh took

1489
01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 3: one snap, he's off the field, and I and everybody said, well,

1490
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 3: you can't play. There's nobody on the team that you

1491
01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:01,720
Speaker 3: can play. You gotta play guys on the roster, and

1492
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:04,680
Speaker 3: there's only fifty guys out there. And if you switch out,

1493
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 3: if you switch out like you just don't have you

1494
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:10,880
Speaker 3: don't have ten offensive linemen. You can't switch out five

1495
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 3: offensive linemen. You don't have eight. Even if you know,

1496
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:17,679
Speaker 3: and you have a limit as to how many practice

1497
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:21,600
Speaker 3: squad guys you can bring up. So same thing with

1498
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:23,640
Speaker 3: the running back. Same you can switch them out, but

1499
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:27,759
Speaker 3: you're still have contributors that have got to play because

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Speaker 3: it's the size of the roster that's the real issue

1501
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 3: right there, And that's you know why you get stuff

1502
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:38,920
Speaker 3: like That's why they want to rest guys. This stuff

1503
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 3: like that happens. Yeah, you can say all you want

1504
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 3: about the coaches, he should never been on there. Well,

1505
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 3: who else are you gonna put out there that you

1506
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:51,640
Speaker 3: don't mind getting their ankle twist twisted? Who put somebody out?

1507
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 2: You pick your player and you're trying to play young

1508
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 2: players in those games to get them reps that they

1509
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 2: didn't get during the season. I mean, let's not forget

1510
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:00,799
Speaker 2: Harrison missed the first half of the season on injured reserve.

1511
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 3: He needs snaps, right, But that's what that's really basically

1512
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 3: what you're asking, what player on the roster do you

1513
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:11,600
Speaker 3: not mind getting their leg broken? So there you go,

1514
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 3: you you make the choice. Somebody's got to get as

1515
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 3: easy as it, somebody's got to go out there and

1516
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:19,880
Speaker 3: get their leg broke. I mean it sounds great, but

1517
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:21,880
Speaker 3: that's what we're talking about. So there you go, make

1518
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 3: your pick. You're hoping it's not Max Harriston, right, there's nobody.

1519
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:31,599
Speaker 3: You are hoping that it happens to maybe what you're punter,

1520
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:33,439
Speaker 3: so you can bring in your fourth punter of the year.

1521
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 3: I mean that's where they're at. Yeah, So yeah, you

1522
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 3: can be as upset out as you want. They have

1523
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 3: there's no choice, there's no way around it. And there's

1524
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:45,160
Speaker 3: a conversation. I've talked about this, and obviously Wood he

1525
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:48,680
Speaker 3: wasn't listening. There's a conversation to be had in the

1526
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:51,200
Speaker 3: off season at the Competition Committee that when teams get

1527
01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:54,120
Speaker 3: into that moment or that mode in the eighteenth week

1528
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:57,000
Speaker 3: of the regular season where they should take the fetters

1529
01:20:57,040 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 3: off of the practice squad elevations, every team can activate

1530
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 3: anybody they want. The roster's frozen. You can bring all

1531
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:07,679
Speaker 3: sixteen guys on your practice squad up and play whoever

1532
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:09,680
Speaker 3: you want in the eighteenth week of the season on

1533
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 3: the roster without losing any of your other guys, and

1534
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:15,879
Speaker 3: you can rest guys. There's something to be said for that. Obviously,

1535
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:17,760
Speaker 3: in a year like this, when you lose a number

1536
01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:22,320
Speaker 3: first round draft pick to a twisted ankle in the

1537
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:25,680
Speaker 3: fourth quarter of a meaningless game or a game that's

1538
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:29,120
Speaker 3: even already been decided. Yeah, that would be great to

1539
01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:31,559
Speaker 3: have at your disposal. But they don't. So you can

1540
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 3: be as mad as you wanted the coaching staff. It

1541
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:36,880
Speaker 3: ain't on them. That's the way it goes. That's and

1542
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 3: I have not heard anything about the Miami Dolphins being

1543
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:41,320
Speaker 3: for sale. You started your conversation out with Miami and

1544
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 3: the franchise being for sale. I have not heard a

1545
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:47,720
Speaker 3: whisper about that. That's usually that's very big news and

1546
01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 3: that would get out you, that gets out, So I

1547
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 3: kind of doubt that that's happening.

1548
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:55,920
Speaker 2: Let's go to Matthew on a sale. What's up, Matthew?

1549
01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 16: Hey, how you guys doing. I just I wanted to

1550
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:05,280
Speaker 16: give a lot of credit to Sean McDermott. You know,

1551
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:08,559
Speaker 16: this year, I've been really critical of him, and honestly,

1552
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:12,559
Speaker 16: I really appreciate that. I've begun to appreciate the fact

1553
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 16: that he's winning these close games this year and it's

1554
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:18,120
Speaker 16: been getting better the last few years, where you know,

1555
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:20,680
Speaker 16: a lot of those close games in the past, they

1556
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:23,320
Speaker 16: weren't able to close it out and they're getting these gritty,

1557
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:26,200
Speaker 16: tough wins. And even in the games that we've lost

1558
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:29,400
Speaker 16: this year, we've never gotten blown out or like really exposed,

1559
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:33,599
Speaker 16: you know. And the Elk game felt like we got

1560
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 16: totally destroyed, but even at the end of the game,

1561
01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:38,559
Speaker 16: you know, we had a chance to win that game.

1562
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:40,880
Speaker 16: So I just want to give a lot of credit

1563
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:42,680
Speaker 16: to him. He's been doing an awesome job this year,

1564
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 16: even with you know, a team with a team this

1565
01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 16: year that have flashy superstars as many as they've had

1566
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 16: in the past. So I just want to give a

1567
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:55,639
Speaker 16: lot of credit to this team and the coaching staff.

1568
01:22:56,160 --> 01:22:59,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's well deserved, and I've said it

1569
01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 2: many times this season. He has done more with less,

1570
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 2: and I don't think anybody can argue that. I mean,

1571
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:11,600
Speaker 2: with the shortage of manpower on the defensive side of

1572
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:19,040
Speaker 2: the ball alone, combined with an offense that had one

1573
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:20,960
Speaker 2: of their best players in and out of the lineup,

1574
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 2: Dalton Kinaid, a second year receiver who didn't take off

1575
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 2: on the career arc that they had hoped for in

1576
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:37,960
Speaker 2: year two. They really maximized what they had and schemed

1577
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 2: things in such a way to make the people they

1578
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:44,640
Speaker 2: had effective and you're still seeing it now in the postseason.

1579
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 3: So yeah, if I mean we do it all the time,

1580
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:49,679
Speaker 3: I mean people call in and they're very critical of Sean.

1581
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 3: I don't agree at all with it. Brownie and I,

1582
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:57,000
Speaker 3: probably more so than a common fan, spend a lot

1583
01:23:57,040 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 3: of time perusing other teams, talking about other teams and

1584
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:03,680
Speaker 3: getting a known and hearing the narrative that's coming out

1585
01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 3: of their fan bases. A lot of Bills fans don't

1586
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 3: hear that accepted unless it's the team they're playing, and

1587
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 3: then it's all anti Buffalo. It's not really anti their

1588
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:15,640
Speaker 3: own team. You'd be surprised at the amount of criticism

1589
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:19,000
Speaker 3: that coaches get around the league. I think it's common

1590
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 3: because team fan bases are myopic, Like Brownie says, we are.

1591
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 3: We talk only about the Bills and all that and

1592
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:26,680
Speaker 3: the opponent they're about to face. And that's true to

1593
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 3: his extent, but we do get a sense of the

1594
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 3: narrative that comes out of other franchises. Don't forget, Yes,

1595
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:37,240
Speaker 3: the Bills have lost a lot of close games, and

1596
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:42,479
Speaker 3: for a league an NFL record historic record, that's the

1597
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 3: only games they lost were close games. Nobody and I mean,

1598
01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 3: nobody beats them by more than one possession. They had

1599
01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:53,559
Speaker 3: an NFL record forty three games in a row before

1600
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 3: anybody beat them by more than seven point eight points

1601
01:24:56,520 --> 01:25:00,640
Speaker 3: one possession. They're hard to beat and always have been

1602
01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 3: under Sean McDermott. They're they're almost impossible to run off

1603
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:06,599
Speaker 3: and leave. If they get runoff and left, it's because

1604
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:10,040
Speaker 3: the Bills stumbled, not because the coaching staff blew a

1605
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:15,760
Speaker 3: time out late. This team is has always been a very,

1606
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:21,520
Speaker 3: very very tough out and that's because of Sean McDermott.

1607
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 3: They are hard to beat when now then when they've

1608
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 3: been outmanned early in Shawn's tenure. There's a time in

1609
01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:32,720
Speaker 3: fact Sean mc sean mcshawan Payton with this with the

1610
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:35,560
Speaker 3: New Orleans Saints came in and put a thumping on

1611
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:39,680
Speaker 3: Sean McDermott's team. Here is probably the worst loss he

1612
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:42,559
Speaker 3: has taken as a head coach, certainly at home at

1613
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:45,080
Speaker 3: home for sure. And they've gotten beat by other teams

1614
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 3: like the year after they put the Colts out of

1615
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 3: the playoffs. I warned you, I knew they were gonna

1616
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:50,760
Speaker 3: do and the Colts came in on a with a

1617
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 3: vengeance and put it on the Bills pretty good here

1618
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 3: the Dolphins this this year when the Bills are turning over,

1619
01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:02,880
Speaker 3: they they absolutely laid an egg. Mcdermy can take a

1620
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:05,800
Speaker 3: little some of the share in that that's one game

1621
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:08,639
Speaker 3: out of the ninety one hundred plus he's won.

1622
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 2: This guy.

1623
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:17,439
Speaker 3: Has created a culture here in Buffalo that is like graned,

1624
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:22,599
Speaker 3: it is rock solid. Yeah, they have won some close

1625
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:29,519
Speaker 3: games this year. They only lose close games. The one

1626
01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:32,280
Speaker 3: exception of that this year was that this year's Miami game.

1627
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 3: You but good grief, they set an NFL record for

1628
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 3: the number of games they went without losing by more

1629
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:46,360
Speaker 3: than a possession NFL record. But you know, they lost

1630
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:49,640
Speaker 3: thirteen to thirty the Miami Dolphins, and that's just that

1631
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:53,439
Speaker 3: one at ten point loss to the Falcons. That's all

1632
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:56,200
Speaker 3: you've had to endure as a Bills fan. Underneath, with

1633
01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:59,559
Speaker 3: Sean mcderm as your head coach, they're tough to beat,

1634
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:01,800
Speaker 3: and I get it. They do stuff, and all of

1635
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:03,559
Speaker 3: a sudden you get mad at them because, I mean,

1636
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 3: we had people calling for their heads to roll after

1637
01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 3: they won by thirty one this year and I'm kidding you,

1638
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:10,680
Speaker 3: thirty one point win this year the Bill's had and

1639
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 3: people were livid with Sean McDermott. That's it's the life

1640
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:17,640
Speaker 3: of a head coach. So yeah, if you're just now

1641
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 3: coming around to it, you're in the right spot.

1642
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:23,479
Speaker 2: Finally, break time for us some final thoughts and maybe

1643
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:24,960
Speaker 2: a phone call when we get back here on One

1644
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:43,680
Speaker 2: Bill's Live. Stay with us. Back here on One Bill's Live,

1645
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:47,240
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and we'll quick try

1646
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 2: to squeeze a phone call in here and we go

1647
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 2: to Fred on a sale. What's up, Fred, Thanks for

1648
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:55,639
Speaker 2: taking the call.

1649
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 9: I know you're getting short on time.

1650
01:27:57,400 --> 01:27:57,559
Speaker 2: Yep.

1651
01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 9: As far as the guy I want to see, I

1652
01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:05,560
Speaker 9: gotta go along with Keyan. He's gotta this is his opportunities.

1653
01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 9: If they give him targets, he'll shine.

1654
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 6: I think.

1655
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:14,040
Speaker 9: As far as I don't think, I don't see any

1656
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:15,200
Speaker 9: problem with playing bully.

1657
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:15,760
Speaker 6: Ball with these guys.

1658
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:18,280
Speaker 9: I hope they do play bullyball. I hope they throw

1659
01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 9: three tight ends at them. But James do his things.

1660
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:24,799
Speaker 9: He can run inside. You gotta go with your strength,

1661
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:27,840
Speaker 9: and right now your strength is your tight ends, and

1662
01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:30,040
Speaker 9: I think that'll take the crowd out. I think that'll

1663
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:32,280
Speaker 9: help take the crowd out if they start going up

1664
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 9: and down on the field on these guys and one

1665
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:37,800
Speaker 9: just one other thing. I kinda we probably don't have

1666
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:40,519
Speaker 9: time to explain this because you're running short on time,

1667
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:43,120
Speaker 9: But what do you think, how do you think Joe,

1668
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 9: Shane and John Harball are gonna get are gonna get along?

1669
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 2: Yeah? Good question, Fred, Thanks for the call.

1670
01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:53,400
Speaker 3: I think they'll be fine. Yeah, both those guys. I'm

1671
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:58,040
Speaker 3: half acquainted with both of them. Yeah, they'll be they'll

1672
01:28:58,120 --> 01:29:01,280
Speaker 3: they'll work together. Joe will work hard to do whatever

1673
01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:03,720
Speaker 3: he can for his head coach, and the bully ball

1674
01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:06,560
Speaker 3: thing might work. We've been talking, we've been laughing about it.

1675
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:08,840
Speaker 3: You're not gonna do one thing all game and have

1676
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:12,200
Speaker 3: it work all game. And you're right, everybody's kind of

1677
01:29:12,240 --> 01:29:14,600
Speaker 3: pulling for key On because they see the ability and

1678
01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:17,240
Speaker 3: they'd love to see him, you know, blossom. Yeah, and

1679
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:19,400
Speaker 3: this is a perfect time to help us all if

1680
01:29:19,439 --> 01:29:19,800
Speaker 3: he could.

1681
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:22,880
Speaker 2: Some of the other potential heroes and a Bill's victory

1682
01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:26,479
Speaker 2: over the Broncos mentioned on the tweetsheet were Groot, James

1683
01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:30,040
Speaker 2: Cook Ed Oliver. We gotta find out if he's even

1684
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:32,960
Speaker 2: suiting up and playing. But that's it. For us here

1685
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:35,960
Speaker 2: on a Thursday. Maddie Clab and Chris Trapass, who will

1686
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:39,639
Speaker 2: be out at Northtown Automotive for remote broadcast tomorrow. They'll

1687
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:40,639
Speaker 2: see you out there at one