1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody walking to move the sticks? DJ? Bucky 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: back with you, Buck, what's up man? No, everything is 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: good man, No complaints, just kind of hanging, just trying 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: of moving through the this off season. It's crazy, DJ, 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: because now that the calendar flipped in the month of June, 7 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: it means we're probably like two weeks away from the 8 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: off season programs ending and then really it's a fast 9 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: month before we're end the training camp and as you know, 10 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: training camp, yeah, like ten eleven twel days you start 11 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: scrimmaging and practicing preseason games and then it is on 12 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: and moving and before you know, we're in the marathon 13 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: all over again. Yeah, looking forward to it. And one 14 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: of my favorite things in training camp is, uh is 15 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,279 Speaker 1: when you get these joint practices. You know, we've talked 16 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: about that over the years, how valuable that is. It 17 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: seems like more and more teams are doing it, um, 18 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 1: you know, and trying to figure out where we're gonna 19 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: go and visit during training camp. I like trying to 20 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: coordinate around some of those I know Chargers, Uh, they're 21 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: gonna have the Cowboys in there, so that I'm looking 22 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: forward to getting out there and seeing some of that. UM. 23 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: A lot of these teams getting together, so looking forward 24 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: to that portion of the processes. We kind of ramp 25 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: up to the start of the season. Got a fun 26 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: episode today. You're gonna talk about pass rushers, edge rushers, 27 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: and do a little draft. We did that the other 28 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: day with teams you know that we want to buy 29 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: over the next five years. How about if we just said, uh, 30 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: you know, hey, NFL pass rushers, we opened up the 31 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: entire field to go back and forth and kind of 32 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: build our little stable of pass rushers. Will have a 33 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: fun discussion with that. UM. But before we get there, Buck, 34 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: I want to start off with with the match we 35 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: saw that yesterday on TV. This is what the fifth 36 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: or sixth time they've done this. The teams where if 37 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: you didn't see it was Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady 38 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: kind of the older vets against the young guns and 39 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen. Uh. Aaron Rodgers sinks a 40 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: putt on the final hole, which was the twelfth hole, 41 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: and they end up winning it. But man, it was 42 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: it was pretty entertaining. I don't know if you've got 43 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: a chance to see any of that. Yeah, I did 44 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: get a chance to see I know, Um, Aaron Russer 45 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: was very excited about winning the match. Um. I think 46 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: what happens when you get those guys together. Let's just 47 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: talk about UM four the top quarterbacks in the game. 48 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: We can row to other guys in there, but to 49 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: have those guys they're young and old. I think what 50 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: you get a chance to see in that environment. You 51 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: see the competitiveness, You see how they go about um 52 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: doing the thing. I think you also get an opportunity 53 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: to kind of see their superpowers in terms of not 54 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: only like their talent, their confidence and self belief, but 55 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: you see how they interact with people. And so much 56 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: of quarterback we always talk about a the talent and 57 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: those things, but when you talk to coaches, and we 58 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: talked to scouts about the importance of why we go 59 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:36,959 Speaker 1: see guys live perform in games we just getting quarterbacks 60 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: is the interactions and the conversations that you see them 61 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: have with their teammates. I think we got a little 62 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: sense of how these guys lead their respective units based 63 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: on how they interacted with each other. The conversations and 64 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: those things Yeah, I want to. I want to give 65 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: you a kind of four takeaways here, one per guy, 66 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: because it was fun watching that and I had, you know, 67 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: kind of some thoughts going through my mind on to 68 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: the guys. So I want to kind of go through 69 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: on one by one to get your thoughts on it 70 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: as well. Let's start with Tom Brady. Um. One of 71 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:08,399 Speaker 1: the things that stood out to me is you could 72 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: see Brady kind of when it got into some of 73 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: those bigger moments down down the stretch, you can see 74 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: him kind of dial in a little bit more. He 75 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: became kind of more serious and more more focused, Like 76 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: that competitive nature in him, uh kind of came out 77 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: a little bit. Um. The other thing that that stood 78 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,679 Speaker 1: out to me about Tom was, you know, Buck, is 79 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: there a more like likable guy in the NFL for somebody. 80 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: A lot of times you think of likable, you think 81 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: of fun loving. He's not like that. Um, I think 82 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: he's he's likable, but he still has that incredible fire 83 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: and kind of dog in him, so to speak. But 84 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: he's manages to kind of have that competitive edge to him, 85 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: but then comes across this is an everyday dude, which 86 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: is incredible, incredible to think about with his accomplishments. Very 87 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: incredible to think about. Uh, you know, it's funny he 88 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: gets away from New England and he becomes the likable 89 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, right, And part of that is the mystique 90 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: and maybe the mystery that is everything New England. It 91 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: doesn't really let a lot out for public consumption. And 92 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: so now since time has gone to the Tampa Buccaneers, 93 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: we're seeing him more out in the public. He is 94 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: giving the public more access to him. And what you 95 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 1: now understanding, what I understand I believe is, oh, I 96 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: see why this guy wins because he's so likable. I 97 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: can see why teammates want to play for him. It 98 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: also explains maybe sometimes when we see the sideline outbursts 99 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: because he's holding his guys to a high standard. You 100 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: also can see that he can act out like that 101 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: because he's putting money in the bank in terms of 102 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: building the relationships that gives him the opportunity to ay 103 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: when I need to ramp it up and I need 104 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: to kind of go hard at you, I can because 105 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: you know and I know that we're on a good 106 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: page and we have a good rapport. Beyond this outburst, 107 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: I have a better sense of who he is as 108 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: a leader, which I think is very important. Yeah, it 109 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: was cool. You know, I'll get a chance to see 110 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: them interact with each other. You get a little bit 111 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: better feel for the guys you take the helmets off too, 112 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: which is you know, one of the things in the 113 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 1: NFL and marketing dollars go to the NBA because you 114 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: you see those guys without helmets and you know who 115 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: they are and they're recognizable. Um. I think that was 116 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: kind of cool to see that. Second, let's go Aaron Rodgers. 117 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: Takeaways on Aaron Rodgers from watching that thing. Number One, 118 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 1: he's clearly the best golfer that bunch, not even close. Uh. 119 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: Number two. I remember a quarterback coach that I had 120 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: in college used to always kind of use the same 121 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: mantra over and over again, like how smooth can you be? 122 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: How smooth can be everything you do from your drop? 123 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: Like we would show watch video of Joe Montana like 124 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: going through his drop, and it was like everything he 125 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: did was just so smooth. Aaron Rodgers is just his 126 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: golf swing is smooth, the way he walks around the course, 127 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: like everything he does is just really really smooth and easy. Um. 128 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 1: The other thing about him, you know, seeing him in shorts, 129 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: in in a in a short sleeve shirt. I don't 130 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: think people realize how thick and strong and muscular he is, 131 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: Like he is put together, like he is in phenomenal shape. 132 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, this kind of look like 133 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 1: big risks, big ends, big calves, like he's he might 134 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: not be six five, that's a big dude. Yeah. And 135 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: I think it also shows the evolution of his body 136 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: from the time to be watched and when he was 137 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: coming out of cow because he was kind of scrawny 138 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: and skinny at cal He grows into this body when 139 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: you play a long time in the league and when 140 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: you listen to Aaron Rodgers of late talk about the 141 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 1: different things that he's done to put his body in 142 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 1: a situation where he can play at his best. Last 143 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: year he talked a lot about yoga and flexibility and 144 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: ply building. We've heard Tom Brady talked about those kinds 145 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: of things for a while, but beginning to see it 146 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: because the biggest thing when we talked about franchise quarterbacks 147 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: is your franchise quarterback is supposed to be available for 148 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: all seventeen come hell of high water. The expectation is 149 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: when you have a franchise quarterback, he does everything in 150 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: his power to be there, and a lot of that 151 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: work is done in the off season. And you can 152 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: tell that Aaron Rodgers has put in a lot of 153 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: work on his body, on his fitness and conditioning levels 154 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: to make sure that he is able to play the 155 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: marathon and be there and to be at his best 156 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: at the end of the season, no doubt. Um yeah, 157 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,239 Speaker 1: I think that was that was apparent when you watched 158 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: just how he put together. I was thinking of Zack Wilson, 159 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: you know, somebody who put on a lot of weight 160 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: during this offseason who was kind of loosely compared to 161 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, just with kind of how Lucy is as 162 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: a thrower and some of that same smoothness that that 163 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: that we're talking about. He tried to pack on some 164 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: some weight as well. So interesting just looking at how 165 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: he's put together. All right, let's go mahomes h takeaways 166 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: on mahomes Like, I watched the uh uh what is it? 167 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: The A T and t uh match that they do 168 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: or the tournament that they do up at Pebble Beach 169 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: everywhere with all the celebrities and I watched that last 170 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: year casually. Am I one dialed in watching every shot, 171 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: But I kind of watched it casually, and I remember 172 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: watching thinking, Man, Patrick Mahomes is not a great golfer, 173 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: like he's for you know, he's a baseball player obviously, 174 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: you know, with his dad and then as a phenomenal quarterback. 175 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: Usually that translates somebody was a great golfer and he 176 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: I thought, he's just okay. Then I watched him in 177 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: this thing yesterday. The improvement that he made as a 178 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: golfer from the last time I saw him to this 179 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: time was like night and day. He carried he carried 180 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: Josh and and had them in it all the way 181 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: to the end. He played out of his mind, and 182 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: I thought it kind of gives you a little bit 183 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: of an insight to him of like the similarities between 184 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: football maybe coming out being a little bit raw, but 185 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: then then devoting himself to the fundamentals and then dialing 186 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: that in and then the talent just explodes. I'm like, 187 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: this son of a gun did the same thing with 188 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: his golf game. Yeah, no, DJ, I think what it 189 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: is is like, look, how you do anything is how 190 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: you do everything, and so the way that you perceived 191 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: him to be as a golfer. He also looked at 192 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: himself and the privaful person that he is, because all 193 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,839 Speaker 1: these guys are a level competitors. A level competitors are 194 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: not going to give you another opportunity to poke holes 195 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: in their game. And so he may act like he 196 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: wasn't doing work, and oh, I don't you know, I 197 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: don't care. This is just all I meage he'd been 198 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 1: playing a lot of golf. He has to have been 199 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 1: playing a lot of golf. There is no way he 200 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: was going to let the world see him again, and 201 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 1: he is going to be the same person that we 202 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: saw last time. We can talk about snickering at his 203 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 1: game and those things. I think the other thing for him, 204 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: and I think it's ex be a good thing when 205 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: it comes to golfing. I think his golf game is 206 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: a lot like his football game, where when he came 207 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 1: in he was talked about raw and I'm refined, but 208 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 1: very loose and creative, which is great because he's a 209 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: natural talent. The thing is to be a consistent high 210 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: level winner and achiever, you have to kind of master 211 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: the fundamentals and you have to kind of do the 212 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: boring part of playing the position. And as Patrick Mahomes 213 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 1: begins to do that, that's when I think his game 214 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: can go from being like, hey man, he is maybe 215 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: the best quarterback of the moment to being what we 216 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: talked about, an all time great because if he gets 217 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: the patients and the discipline where he's like, oh, you're 218 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: gonna play me this way, I'll adapt to not maybe 219 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: I'll play more small ball. Oh, you're gonna be really 220 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: tight on the guys, and now we play long ball. 221 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: If he has that to his game, when he had 222 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: an opportunity to just really go next level and and 223 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: looking at him play golf, I think you see that 224 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: he has that ability, that mental capacity to restrain himself 225 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: and play a little more discipline and detailed brand of golf, 226 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: which you would think you would be able to do 227 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: playing football, No doubt, Um it was. It was crazy 228 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: just to see the difference and how quickly he's made 229 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: those adjustments and turn himself into good golfer. Lastly, Josh 230 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 1: Allen uh takeaways. First of all, Buck and we've been 231 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: around him, so we've seen it. He's enormous. Like you know, 232 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: Tom Brady is tall, He's you know they're both six five, 233 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: but the difference and how broad he was compared to 234 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: Brady and just how thick he is huge. Um, you 235 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: can see that with him next to those other three guys. 236 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: That was the first thing that stood out. The second 237 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: thing I'll say again, totally likable Buck. He comes across 238 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: as just is just a humble, good dude. They were 239 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: ribbing him and he didn't play is probably as well 240 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: as he would have liked to have played in that 241 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: in that in that tournament, but man, he laughed at himself. 242 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: He was, you know, self deprecating a little bit, and 243 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: just you can just see, Okay, there's the reason why 244 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: everybody you know just just took to him like that 245 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: in Buffalo, both on the field, in the organization, in 246 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: the community. He's just a good dude, you know. So 247 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: we talked about it. We've referenced this book a few times. 248 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: Like in business, they talk about good the great and 249 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: the number one thing they say is first to who, 250 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: then the what. The most important part of building an 251 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: elite organization is getting the right people on how they 252 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: build the personality or whatever. And so then when we 253 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: think about the Buffalo Bills and Josh Allen. A lot 254 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: of our time in the draft process was like, Hey, 255 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if you can do this and that, 256 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: and maybe we undersold the who he was, the person, 257 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: the character, the football character, that guy that gravitatestion is 258 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: kind of galvanizing figures. So that's one thing that stands out. 259 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: The other part that stands out is Josh Allen's self awareness. 260 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: To me might be one of his greatest traits. His 261 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: ability to look at himself and even the first couple 262 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: of years in the league when he had those crazy 263 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: moments as a thrower interceptions, to be able to be like, uh, 264 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: that wasn't so great, laugh at himself while quietly saying 265 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get better, and I'm gonna get better and 266 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get really good at this. I think he's 267 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: that kind of guy. And so even though he may 268 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: laugh at off or whatever, I think he has a 269 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: level of awareness where the next time we see him 270 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: on the course, he's gonna be a much better player. 271 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: Because we talked about that pride and that competitiveness, it 272 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: burns deep within him. And I think those conversations and 273 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: snickers and all that stuff that people talked about early 274 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: in his football career helped him become a better player too. 275 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: Now I would say d G. I would say he's 276 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: a new prototype because you talked about his size being gitanormous. 277 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: With theticism and the talent, he's a new prototype. I 278 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: think he is the new version of what you're looking 279 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: for at the position. I want the guy with the 280 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: plus dimensions from a physical standpoint, who also has the 281 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: athleticism and our in talent to do the special stuff, 282 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 1: no doubt. Um. I was told by somebody that was 283 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: out there too that he had played like sixty holes 284 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: of golf and like the two days he was either 285 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: played like thirty holes of golf before that thing started 286 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 1: that day. Like you know, these guys are all they're 287 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: all psycho competitors, man, That's why why they are where 288 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: they are. But proving an old lesson that the more 289 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: the more you play in that game that that doesn't 290 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: necessarily doesn't matter, especially on the day of man, like 291 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: you can you can wear yourself out. So now what 292 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: that might have been and what may Josh may learn 293 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: is you can't cram in golf. Like if he's gonna 294 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: do this event, put it on account they you gotta 295 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: do a little bit east day. You gotta get better 296 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: work on my short game, this and that and put 297 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: it together. That a I guess, M two hours a gig. Great. 298 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: So what I'm gonna do with seventy two holes and 299 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: see if I can figure it out? Yeah that's a 300 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 1: little harder. Yeah no, but it was fun. I'll tell 301 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: you what I enjoyed as much as the event itself 302 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: was the conversation afterwards. I don't think you got a 303 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: chance to see that, buck m but the little round 304 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: table discussion about thirty minutes long. I'm sure you probably 305 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 1: find it on YouTube or something, but you gotta check 306 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: out if you haven't listened to it. But Ernie Johnson 307 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: did a fantastic job with these four guys, just kind 308 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 1: of kicking around some different topics. One of the things, 309 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: you know, a bunch of things were were exceptional, But 310 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: one thing that stood out to me. Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, 311 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: and Josh Allen all grew up forty Niner fans. Obviously 312 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: different ages there, but you talk about Joe Montana and 313 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: Steve Young, but they grew up kind of idolizing that 314 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: organization and those guys, Um, I thought that was kind 315 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: of fascinating that you kind of had that that Steve 316 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 1: planted and those are the guys that they watched all 317 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: growing up out in California. So here's the thing. If 318 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: we go back to a conversation that people can find 319 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: that they go through our archives. When Joe Montana came on, 320 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: I think it's fascinating that that's together they idolized right 321 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: like Niners and the way they do things. I do 322 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: remember in that conversation where Joe Montana talked about the 323 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: forty Niner way of doing thinking how they went about 324 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: practice and how everything was crisp and efficient, ball didn't 325 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: hit the ground, how they had a level of professionalism 326 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: that they approached the job with shirttails tucked in, the 327 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: way they hopped on and off the field, and just 328 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: the way that they looked and felt it was championship 329 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: like um. And so when you think about that modeled 330 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: organization in the two quarterbacks Joe Montana and Steve Young, 331 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: you have this a evil guys the guys that played 332 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: it traditionally from the pocket in Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers. 333 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: And did you have Steve Young, who at the time 334 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: was a little unconvisional because of the athleticism. You can 335 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: see Josh Allen fallen in love with that kind of player. Um, 336 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: but I think with both of those guys, as they 337 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: did for the Niners, different style quarterbacks that still fit 338 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: within the framework of how the organization operated and had 339 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: a ton of success. Maybe each of those guys took 340 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: a little something from watching and observing those guys to 341 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: figure like, hey, I don't have to be a certain way, 342 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: but I still can kind of fall into the tendives 343 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: of what a franchise quarterback looks like and win a 344 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: ton of games. Yeah, there was a There was a 345 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: bunch of other things as well. Um, from that conversation. 346 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: One of the things that was interesting, none of these guys, 347 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: I mean, these are four the best quarterbacks in Lake 348 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: Obviously Tom is gonna go down and graced of all time. 349 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: None of them, uh, were the top quarterback in their 350 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: draft class. So there were other guys that were you 351 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: know that we're coming to be the guys. So you 352 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: have that kind of chip on your shoulder theme between 353 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: all of them. Um, it wasn't fascinating Mahomes when they 354 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: talked about motivation. He he took a different approach, which 355 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: probably falls in line with his personality. He said, I 356 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: want to prove those right that believed in me, whereas 357 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers was like, no, no, no, I keep basically, 358 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: he keeps track of anybody who slighted him, and he 359 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: is about, you know, using that as motivation to achieve tom. 360 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: I think it falls in line a little bit more 361 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: with that too. It's kind of the two old guys 362 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: kind of, you know, get motivation from any perceived slights 363 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: or they even kind of conjure up this stuff in 364 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: their own mind, whereas the younger guys were a little 365 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: bit more uh, you know, hey, I don't need the negative. 366 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: I don't really let the negative stuff. And I think 367 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: maybe maybe that's the one positive of the of the 368 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: social media age that we live in. A lot of 369 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: it I don't really care for, and I think it's harmful. 370 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: But man, I guess you get pretty hardened if you've 371 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: been kind of a popular figure or starting quarterback and 372 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: you've had that online criticism that's immediately popping into your feet. 373 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: Maybe you get a little bit hardened to that, more 374 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: so than some of the old guys who still bugs 375 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: the crap out of them Yeah, but I also think 376 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: it might be a generational thing. Right. The generational thing, 377 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: uh might have been old school coaching philosophies were negative 378 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 1: before positive, what we don't do, you have to do this, 379 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 1: or just kind of like a more of a negative 380 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: energy mindset as opposed to the growth positive mindset, like, hey, 381 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: here's what I do really well, I'm continue to focus 382 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: on this. I'm going to worry about those who make 383 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: me feel a certain way as opposed to those who 384 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: took shots. And it also may speak to why when 385 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: we look at those guys on the sideline, it is 386 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: rare that we see a Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes 387 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: like visibly upset, whereas we see Aaron Rodgers kind of 388 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 1: carry that and you know, look, it can work for 389 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: each but I think it might be a lot more 390 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 1: stressful to carry the negative energy because it can kind 391 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: of maybe take you to maybe deeper depths than the 392 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: other stuff if you have a different kind of approach 393 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: to it. Yeah, I think might have hit it there. 394 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,719 Speaker 1: I think that might be more kind of a generational thing, 395 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: and just how kids are growing up nowadays versus um 396 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: how they grew up and how you derive motivation. I 397 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 1: think it's kind of a fascinating case study. There um 398 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: some other things that were interesting, Um, you know, when 399 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 1: you're listening to those guys talk about everything. One of 400 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 1: the one of the moments of kind of levity that 401 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: was kind of fun was they asked Brady. Ernie asked 402 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: Brady about why he's going to go into broadcasting, you know, 403 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: because that was announced he's gonna eventually when he's retired, 404 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 1: he's gonna go to Fox. And he said, uh, you know, 405 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: like I've had a chance to learn under the greatest 406 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 1: coach of all time. And Bill Belichick was interesting how 407 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: he kind of went all Patriots let that, you know, 408 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: talked about learning under Bellick. Belichick talked about playing with 409 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: Hall of famers, you know, Ty Law, Richard Seymour, Um, 410 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: you kind of on and on about the guys he 411 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: played with there in in New England and said, you know, 412 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: when you get a chance to go on a Friday 413 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: to a practice and be able to you know, be 414 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: with Josh or Pat maybe show them some things that 415 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: helped me and maybe kind of share share the game 416 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: with them, he said, the game has given so much 417 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: to me. I want to be able to give back 418 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: to the game, and uh and Aaron Rodgers said, yeah, man, 419 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: you sure getting paid a lot to give back, because 420 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: anybody ever got paid like that to give It was 421 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 1: a great line. It was really fun. But he kind 422 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: of he kind of zing them on that one. But 423 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: I thought that was that was kind of cool. Think 424 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 1: about these young quarterbacks having a chance to tap into 425 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,719 Speaker 1: the experience in the wisdom of Tom Brady to be 426 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: pretty awesome. No, I think it's great. I also think 427 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 1: it speaks to who he is. Right. Um, we had 428 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: the conversation and it's a little bit unfair, but we'll 429 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: use the Ryan Tannehill Molly Willis conversation as a jump 430 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: off point when we talk about mentorship. And you know, 431 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: I think the thing is, as you get older in 432 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: the game, there's a part of you that, if you 433 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: really love the game, you always want to see the 434 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: game in a better place down the line, and so 435 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: part of your obligation is to share and pass on 436 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: knowledge and information to help others get better and carry 437 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: the ball even farther than you carried it in terms 438 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: of over the goal line. And I think where Tom 439 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: Brady is now in the twilight of his career he 440 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: is at that point now to the point where we 441 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: talked about Ryan Tannehill and Malik Willis, the younger Tom 442 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: Brady might not have been evolved to that point when 443 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: you have jacobeer said and Jimmy Garoppolo and those guys 444 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: two directly give and share of the information. But I 445 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: think it is telling because when he talked about his 446 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 1: broadcast career and what he's been exposed to. UM, let 447 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,959 Speaker 1: me make a disclaimer, you and I are not on 448 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: that level in terms of the greatest of all time, 449 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 1: like what Time Brady has been able to do on 450 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: the field. However, I think we both have been um 451 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: given opportunities to learn football from higher level people, people 452 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: that they will consider. Ozzy Newsom is one of the 453 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: greatest evaluators of all time I can talk about like 454 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 1: Ron Wolf and some of those other guys. But being 455 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: able to take that information and share it, that's ultimately 456 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,239 Speaker 1: why you do it, because in this business, it's not 457 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: just about the analysis. It's about teaching and teaching and 458 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: enlightening and giving those things and helping people like, hey man, 459 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: look I've done aking do in the game. I'm gonna 460 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,959 Speaker 1: give you this and you're taken and do with it 461 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: what you wish. I like that approach from Tom Brady. 462 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: It makes me really like him that much more that 463 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: he's willing to be selfless and give those other guys 464 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: because if they wanted, everyone wants to know the blueprint. 465 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: How do you become the greatest of all time? I 466 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: think it's great on his ploy the interesting thing that 467 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: leads me perfectly the next topic, talking about mentorship. Right 468 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: as you're just getting into Aaron brought it up when 469 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 1: they were talking about what the what the responsibility is 470 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,719 Speaker 1: for these older guys to teach the younger guys, and 471 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: Aaron kind of he was like, look, I don't think 472 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: the older guys have any responsibility with the younger. Said 473 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 1: now I was in he said, obviously. I was with 474 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: Brett far for three years. And he said one thing 475 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 1: I did is I, as a young guy, followed him everywhere, 476 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: paid attention to everything he did. Um. I remember he 477 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: told a story about how he would put together notes 478 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: for each opponent, like stuff that he maybe have seen, 479 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: and he would create a packet and he said he 480 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: would give it to Brett every every week like what 481 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: I've seen. And so Ernie was like, hold up, like, 482 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 1: did Brett use that or want that? He's all, I 483 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 1: don't know. He he probably threw it in the trash 484 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: can on the way out of the and the way 485 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 1: out of the room. But he said, I learned how 486 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: to study kind of on my own by trying to 487 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: prepare as a starter and then watching everything he did. 488 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: He said, I would kind of sneak in the huddle 489 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: behind him at practice just to listen to what he 490 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: would say before he called the play. So he said, 491 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: I got a full education doing that. And then mahomes 492 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: chimed in and said, you know, the same type of 493 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: a thing with Alex Smith. I think a lot of 494 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: times people think that Alex Smith was, you know, all right, 495 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: get your pen and paper out, all right, here's the 496 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 1: lesson for today. He said, No, like I just was 497 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: around him and observing him, and that's how I learned, 498 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 1: you know, and then maybe ask a question here there. 499 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 1: But I think that's maybe the disconnect I think people think, 500 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: well is Ryan Tannehill is supposed to say, Okay, here's 501 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: today's lesson. You know, sit down the leak, here's what 502 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna go over. Here's how you do this. He's like, no, No, 503 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: it's just being accessible and saying, hey, you know we're 504 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: gonna be in here together. Watch what I do, Watch 505 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: how I work, Watch what I do before practice, How 506 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: do I maintain my body? What do I do with nutrition? 507 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 1: And then if we're in there watching tape and you 508 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: want to fire off a couple, Hey, why did you 509 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 1: do this? Or what did you see here? Yeah, that's 510 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: your Ryan Tannehill is going to answer that question. Yeah, so, 511 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: dj Um, I think you're you on vacation. Actually when 512 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: the Tannehill thing right, I think you're way so on 513 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: total access. Somebody talked about it and I talked about 514 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: mentorship is earned. Right. So when I was a young player, 515 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: I was playing for the Kann City Chiefs. I just 516 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: got there. James Hasty was an all pro corner. James 517 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: Hasty was playing at like the highest level at the time. 518 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: And so what Hasty did for me is he waited 519 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 1: a long time before he shared. He just kind of 520 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: let me do my thing. But much like you're talking 521 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: about Pat Mahomes and those guys, I watched his every 522 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 1: move because he was so consistent and how he did 523 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,239 Speaker 1: stuff or whatever. And so finally he said, hey, man, 524 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: here's what we're gonna do. We always watched film on Tuesdays. 525 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 1: I want you to come in at eight o'clock. I'm 526 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: gonna come in, and when I get into nine thirty, 527 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: I want you to give me notes on what you've seen, 528 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: on who we're playing. So we're playing in Seattle, Joey 529 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: Galloway or whatever. I would say, Hey, man, Joey Calawey 530 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,479 Speaker 1: likes Rouse and this and that or whatever. But what 531 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: it did is that began the conversation so much like 532 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers gave those notes to Brett for. But what 533 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: it did, it made me think differently. And you actually 534 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: learn more a boy doing than someone saying, hey, take 535 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: your pan out, this is what you're going to do. 536 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 1: But what it did, it it helped. And so when 537 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: guys are talking about I think the only thing that 538 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: we want from a front office standpoint when you have 539 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: the vet quarterback and the young guy or the young 540 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: player and the older player, is I just don't want 541 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: you to shut him off. I'm not saying I'm not saying, hey, 542 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 1: he's your responsibility to baby him right, but if he 543 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 1: does have a question, it would help the team if 544 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 1: you would help him. If he shows you that he's 545 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: serious about going about his business, then open it up 546 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: and give it to him. That's the culture of the program. 547 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: But I don't expect you to hold his hand and 548 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: car him along and say, hey, Johnny, this is what 549 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: we're supposed to do. You just wanted to be open 550 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: enough that you are willing to share if he earns 551 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: the right to be shared with Yep. It's it's so true. Um. 552 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: So I think that was It was a great discussion 553 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: if you had to had a chance to listen to 554 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: go find it, uh and listen to those guys, really 555 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: really entertaining. Nice work by Ernie Johnson on that as well. 556 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick little break and we're 557 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: gonna come back with drafts dge rushers. All right, Buck, 558 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: I have fun um coming kind of up with these 559 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: different ideas of ways we can do draft stuff. So 560 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: I think mock drafts are fun um, But I think 561 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: doing it with with the NFL stuff in the off season, 562 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 1: it's good. It's good, Uh conversation starter, I guess, so 563 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 1: to speak. So we're gonna do let's just do edge 564 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: rushers today. So Aaron Donald's out of the mix. We 565 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: can't draft Aaron Donald. But let's just do edge rushers 566 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: and then we'll kind of do you want to do? Uh? 567 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 1: I want to do five apiece today. Who's gonna just 568 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: you know, now, you always give you the first first pick, 569 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna give you the first pick on this one. 570 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: You get the first pick. The board is yours. You 571 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: get an opportunity to take the top passires that you 572 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: deem and this this mythical exercise that we're doing in 573 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: terms of building a team for the pastors. Okay, I've 574 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: got It's tough because I got a couple of guys 575 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: I love, but there's three that I think are above 576 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 1: the group. So I'm stoked I'm gonna get two of 577 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 1: them either. Anyway I cut it. I'm gonna go with 578 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: Myles Garrett with my first pick. Um, I don't even 579 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: want to mention any of the names. And I'm just 580 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: hopeful that somehow I'm gonna get my next guy on 581 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: the list. But Myles Garrett is the prototype. You know, 582 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: the size, the length to get off the bend, the power, 583 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,360 Speaker 1: he has everything, so um, you know, when he's out 584 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: there and healthy and on the field, he's uh, he's 585 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: somebody to completely take over and dominate football game. So 586 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: I'll go with Myles Garrett with my first pick. You 587 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: know I like that. I am not surprised. You've been 588 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: a huge Miles Garrett fan from the time we cast 589 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 1: eyes on him when he was at Texas and him, 590 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: Look he's look, he's a freak show. He's a freak 591 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: show because he's a prototype, right Like we all want 592 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: the guy that um can lead buildings in single bound 593 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: and do all the things that they can do as 594 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: an athlete. And so I am all about bass Garrett. 595 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: I will give you that. My pick, my number one 596 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: pick is gonna be a little different because I don't 597 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 1: think this guy is the prototype. But I don't believe 598 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 1: that you can ignore the production from t J. Watt. 599 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 1: T J Watt over seventy two sacks, two force fumbles, right, So, DJ, 600 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 1: when we think about the game, and we always talk 601 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: about closers and can you close the game out and 602 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 1: can you make the play when the play is there 603 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: to be made when you need to play to be made. 604 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 1: T J. Watt is is proven that and when you 605 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: go and you just look and I'm just thinking about 606 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 1: how he's able to do it, because did you remember 607 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: the question when he was coming out he's a bit 608 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 1: of a one year one, like his production his final 609 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 1: season at wisconsinly like, yeah, I don't know, is he 610 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: really a first round pick? And in four seasons where 611 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: he has well over double digit sacks last year times 612 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 1: Michael Strahan's record, and you just see the energy, the relentlessness, 613 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 1: all of that effort. He just is very plus with 614 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: the techniques. So I'm gonna take him. He is my 615 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 1: top pass rusher desk wanta take all? Right? Uh, that 616 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 1: was my debate there with the number one overall pick 617 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 1: was gonna be t J. Watt versus Miles Garrett. I 618 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: watched t J. Watts sacks the other day. I went 619 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: through all of them. Not a lot of freebies in 620 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: their buck. I mean, is it is every which way possible. 621 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: It is. It is speed to finish, it is working 622 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: on power, it's counter moves. I mean, he's he's got everything. Um, 623 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: he can really bend. His story reminds me so much 624 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: of Clay Matthews, where everybody and you're probably the same 625 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: boat I was. We all loved Clay Matthews, but it 626 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: was like we felt like we loved him, but because 627 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: of kind of the maybe the limited production or Roy 628 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: ahead at USC like you can only push him up 629 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: so high, and so you pushed him up and he 630 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: end up going kind of late one. And same with 631 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: t J. Watt And then at the end of the day, 632 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: like man if I would have just given him a 633 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: grade based off of the skill set, and then I 634 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: thought that this was gonna come together. This everything was there, 635 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: you could see everything. It was just maybe the numbers 636 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: hadn't followed him at that point in time, but sure enough. 637 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: I mean, gosh, Clay Matthews had a great career and 638 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: and t J. Wattson is taking that to another level. 639 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: So that's a good pick. All right. My second pick, 640 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna Nick Bosa. I'm not surprised. So Nick Bosa 641 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: is the best leverage rusher in the NFL in my opinion. Um, 642 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: he just gets underneath guys. You see how powerfully built 643 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: he is in the lower um. But buck when he's 644 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: out there again, he's another one. You've seen. My thing 645 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: with pass rongers. Can you take over a game? Can 646 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: you close out a game? You mentioned game closer. I've 647 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: seen this dude do it. I've seen him take over 648 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: playoff games. I've seen him take over big games. Um, 649 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: he's a nightmare to block. So I'll go with with 650 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: Nick Bosa. Oh DJ, So now I'm stuck, right, I'm 651 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: stuck because the next guy I want to say, here's 652 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: the limit that I have. After determined, do I want 653 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: to make it a brother's Bosa and going back to back, 654 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: do I take Joey Bosa right after his brother Nick 655 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: had gone, even though Joey boss probably insulted that the 656 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: younger brother goes ahead of him or I go elsewhere. Um, 657 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Joey Bosa because the age is 658 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: the Germans to me, He's twenty six years of age. 659 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: He is a guy who is proven to be like 660 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: a technical marvel when it comes to being off the edge. 661 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: Injuries have gotten in the way and kind of impacted 662 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: some of the production. But look four of the six 663 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: seasons he's been in double digits. You see him each 664 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: and every week and the impact that he has on 665 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: the game, and I just can't imagine when he has 666 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: had the opportunity to play what I call a credible 667 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: threat on the other side, he dominates the game because 668 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: then he sees maybe more one on ones Joey Bosa, 669 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: Nick Bosa, both of them obviously like it's the family business. Yeah, 670 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what he does uh this 671 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: season with clil Mac on the other side, and um, 672 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: you know if he if he's out there for seventeen weeks, 673 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: you're gonna see big numbers from Joey Bosa. So I 674 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,719 Speaker 1: love that pick. I'm gonna stay in the division buck now. 675 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Max Crosby with my next one. 676 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: Max Crosby, and I see that doing the Charger games 677 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: up close and personal here he's he's he's a con 678 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,959 Speaker 1: door man. I think that's what all they is referred 679 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: to him as. But he is so long and uh 680 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: and just has a real knack uh to finish. So 681 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: he hit you with that long arm. He can separate 682 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: from you, create some space and then close and finish 683 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: as well as anybody. Um. I think Max Crosby's really 684 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: is a talented a rusher as we have in the 685 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: NFL right now. So I feel good getting Max Crosby 686 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,239 Speaker 1: round three. Okay, So I'm going with it. I like 687 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: Max Crosby and I think he is really going to 688 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: be the beneficiary of the guy that I am taking 689 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: the arrival of Chandler Jones. Chandler Jones forces me to 690 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: kind of go outside of my normal comfort zone because 691 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: he's thirty two years of age. That's it. Guy has 692 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: well over a hundred sacks. He has thirty three force fumbles. 693 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: When you watch him play man, it just it doesn't 694 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: seem like father time has caught up with his game. 695 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: He can win with speed and power. He can win 696 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: with technical savvy. He can hit you off the right 697 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: or off the left, which some guys are not able 698 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: to do. To me, he is kind of like what 699 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: you want your pass rusher to evolve in over a 700 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: ten year career. Channel Jones is my pig. He's my 701 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: third choice. All right, This next one here, Um, I'm 702 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: kind of gonna cheat on this one a little bit, buck. 703 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna cheat on this one because this dude is 704 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: not even a full time edge rusher. Oh, I know 705 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: where you're going, But as a part of edge rusher power, 706 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: I know where you're going. He this dude could get 707 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: twenty sacks if you let him rush go ahead, you 708 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: can say you know where I'm going. You got to 709 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: start on to help with Michael Parsons go on, Michael Parsons, 710 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: Micah Parsons, I'll take him in the fourth round. Even 711 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: though he's a part time edge rusher. He's gonna get 712 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: me double digit sacks every year. Is a part time rusher, 713 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: And if they want to kick him out there and 714 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: let him do more of it, um and they've got 715 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: a little bit better linebacker depth this year, maybe he 716 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: does get some more opportunities to rush. Let dude get you. 717 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: He I swear to you, if you just let him rush, 718 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: you get you twenty sacks. He's that. He's that talented, 719 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: net gifted coming off the edge. He reminds me a lot, 720 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: and we've talked about it, your former teammate and Derek Thomas. 721 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: When you just watch him rush off the edge, he 722 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: is a knack for it, and there's something that is 723 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: natural to the way that he comes off, how disruptive 724 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: he is all these He kind of has like a 725 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: little bull in a Chinese shop game. But it works. 726 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: It's funny because now you're talking about a natural pass 727 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: rusher and those things. I think one of the things 728 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: that we may not talk enough about when we're evaluating 729 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: pass rushers is like effort and relentlessness this guy falls 730 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: into that category. And I'm gonna take Trey Hendrickson at 731 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: this point because the first season when he got double 732 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: dig Assassin New Orleans, a lot of it was yeah, yeah, 733 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: but that's a little easier because he's playing opposite of 734 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: Cam Jordan's. He then goes to Cincinnati and he steps 735 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: into the number one role and he does it again 736 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: and puts up big numbers. So now and watching him 737 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: and watching how he plays, I'm kind of believing, like, hey, man, 738 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: you know, this guy just kind of has a way 739 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,239 Speaker 1: of outworking and out maneuvering people. Yeah, Like we can 740 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: talk about whether he's an a level athlete or not, 741 00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: but like he just kind of has it all when 742 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: it checked the boxes. This is the guy that I 743 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: think we're gonna consistently talk about being right on the 744 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: edge or in the mix of the leaderboard. Trey Henderson 745 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: is my pick. I'm taking forth Trey Henderson. You're gonna 746 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: go forth with him, all right, I've got him, all right? 747 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 1: So my last pick here, man can go in a 748 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: lot of different areas. It's hard, all right, because because 749 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: the normal names that were used to talk von Miller 750 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: is still out there. The normal names that were used 751 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: to talking about they're getting older and so as we're 752 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 1: talking about you, like, uh, where do I want to go? Man? 753 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: You know me, I always like to lean young. Um 754 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: m hmm. That's what makes it tough, man. Um that's 755 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,879 Speaker 1: some young I've got. I love my Micah Parsons. Pick 756 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 1: a little outside the box, Hassan Reddick is a good one. 757 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 1: Uh you've seen Shack Barrett doing on a big stage, 758 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: you know, gosh, m you know what? And man, man, 759 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna go I think I'm gonna go young, 760 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna bet on this being a futures pick here. 761 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,439 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Jalen Phillips for my last pick, 762 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: way off the board, Like I gotta go way off. 763 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,359 Speaker 1: And this is I know, I know, like he had 764 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: eight and a half sacks. I think he had eight 765 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 1: and a half sacks last year. But this is this 766 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: is about the future, and this is about somebody who 767 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 1: just when you look at how how he's built and 768 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: how he can bend. Um man, he's if you're going 769 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 1: to kind of build a pass rusher, you'd want him 770 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: to kind of look like Jalen Phillips. So that one's 771 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: a wild card. I get it, there's a there's a 772 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: there's a lot of other names out there, more accomplished players. 773 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 1: But that's my that's my gamble. I'm gonna gamble on 774 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,479 Speaker 1: the come a little bit there with Jalen Phillips. So yeah, 775 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: so look, you're talking about gambling on to come. You're 776 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 1: talking about the young guy who has potential and those things. 777 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: And here here's where we're at, right, because where we 778 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 1: are because now we're rattling off the entop pass rushers. 779 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: You now on the mix of do I want the 780 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 1: old guy who might be in the twilight of his 781 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: career and maybe beginning to come down, or do I 782 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: want to bet on the young guy who really has 783 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: kind of shown flash h Cam Jordan's still out there 784 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 1: flashes flash and being able to get it. But then, 785 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: like when we talk about Kim Jordan's were like Robert Quinn, Yeah, 786 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: but they're they're older, DJ, and but they're older, Like 787 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: how often do we want to go there? Okay, so 788 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 1: now I'm stuck. I'm stuck because I kind of have 789 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: to do that because I just pooh pooed on your 790 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 1: older guys, right, Cam Jordan, who normally would be in 791 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 1: the mix. Robert Quinn, who had a phenomenal year, just 792 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 1: talk about breaking it up. Von Miller, who looked show 793 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: flashes of being able to be the closer down the stretch. 794 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: Hasan Reddick who you talked about look back to back 795 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 1: years where he put up big numbers. Okay, so I 796 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:59,399 Speaker 1: have to gamble on upside and there are a couple 797 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 1: of guys that I'm stuck with. I got Rashota Gary 798 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 1: for the Green Bay Packers, who is in the conversation. Um, 799 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 1: I have Harold Landry from the Tennessee Titans, who has 800 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 1: kind of come on and he's like one of those 801 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 1: pets that I just can't shape, Like I just loved 802 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 1: him when he was in college and that stuff. But 803 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: then you know, you know there's another name out there, 804 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 1: by the way, who's coming off of a very down year, 805 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: who's a young player who was phenomenal as a rookie. 806 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 1: And who's that, who's that who's did nothing? Did nothing? 807 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 1: Chase Young? Oh yeah, like yeah, out of sight, out 808 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 1: of mind. That's unfortunate, you know, he's unfortunate. Yeah, that's 809 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,319 Speaker 1: unfortunate because look, he has all the trades he did, 810 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: he did flat. So here here's what I'm gonna do. 811 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give him his due because this guy has 812 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 1: back to back seasons where he's been able to do it, 813 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna I am gonna go sign ready because 814 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: it's unconventional DJ. It's hard to ignore twenty three and 815 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 1: a half sacks back to back years. Even though the 816 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 1: body type is not tradition six he is it a quarterback. 817 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go Hassion Reddick as my fifth pick. 818 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 1: And I'm saying that knowing did I typically go with 819 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: like prototypes and those things, you know, but I can't 820 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: ignore what he's been able to do the last couple 821 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,359 Speaker 1: of years. And so it's a right now league and 822 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 1: right now he's been one of the top pastures. So 823 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 1: that's where we go. What's kind of funny is you 824 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 1: look at it, if we if we did kind of 825 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 1: my first rounder versus your first rounder went all the 826 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,799 Speaker 1: way through all five rounds, right, It's it's kind of 827 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: hilarious because you've got Myles Garrett and t J. Watt, 828 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,800 Speaker 1: same division, they play each other twice a year, both 829 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 1: tons of production. You've got that connection. Round two, it's 830 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,240 Speaker 1: the boast of brothers. It's a family affair and versus Joey. 831 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 1: Then you get to round number three, teammates Max Crosby 832 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,359 Speaker 1: and Chandler Jones. Um, so you've got that that going. 833 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 1: Then you get to round four, you've got Micah Parsons 834 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 1: and Trey Hendrickson. Um, you know, I don't know what 835 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 1: the really the connection is there between those guys. Maybe 836 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 1: you talk about uh, big ten right, Trey Henderson, Uh, 837 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 1: we're trainers, and go, why am I blanking on the trainers? 838 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 1: F Oh no, yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right, right, right. 839 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 1: I was thinking he was pretty you're right, you're right, 840 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 1: you're right. So I don't know what the connection is there. 841 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 1: And then finally the last one, Jalen Phillips and Hassan 842 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: Reddick kind of both you know, have solid production, but 843 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,320 Speaker 1: we're betting that even Moore's ahead of them going forward. 844 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: Yeah stuff, because literally I wanted to think about the 845 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 1: young guy who could really pop and explode, and it's 846 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,399 Speaker 1: tough because the guys that were getting too nar More 847 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 1: of your one year one is there'll be some conversation 848 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 1: about Brian Burns, but we talked about some of that 849 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:32,399 Speaker 1: production coming on blown A Simus and those things. Um, Matt, 850 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 1: you don was a guy that I considered I had 851 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: a big year for the Patriots. But um, I don't know, 852 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 1: like we haven't seen a gap of the Patriots do 853 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 1: it back to back to back since Chandler Jones and 854 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 1: so as we go, I'm sure they let us because 855 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 1: we will. We'll get hit on Brian Burns because the 856 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 1: sacks have been there. But you go look look up 857 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,760 Speaker 1: win percentage on him, like just he's actually beating a block. 858 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: He was like, I don't even think he was in 859 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 1: the top one hundred. I think he was like one 860 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 1: o one or something like that. Um so, and I 861 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 1: think we've we've we've been there, done that. There's a 862 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,240 Speaker 1: lot of sacks on air there. But anyways, that's uh, 863 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,320 Speaker 1: that's what we came up with. I've got Miles Garrett, 864 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,839 Speaker 1: Nick Bosa, Max Crosby, Micah Parsons, Jalen Phillips, You've got 865 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 1: t J. Watt, Joey Bosa, Chandler Jones, Trey Hendrickson and 866 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 1: Hassan Reddick. A fun exercise there buck anything anything you 867 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 1: want to add before we roll out of here. It's 868 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 1: been a fun one. No it's been a phone and 869 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 1: I I like doing these things. I think what it 870 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,879 Speaker 1: made us do right there with the pass rushers made 871 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,359 Speaker 1: us really look. You know. It's one of those things, 872 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 1: d J. We talk a scouts. You need to look 873 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 1: and see who's playing in the league. When you look 874 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: at the list, some of the names at the top 875 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: of the list are not the names that we've been 876 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,840 Speaker 1: talking about the last five or six years. New guys, 877 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: new energy, new blooded. Pastor's position. Yep, there you go. Um, 878 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 1: all right, that's gonna do it for it. So today, 879 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 1: I hope you guys have enjoyed it. Hope you have 880 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 1: a wonderful weekend. Um, we'll catch you next week. Right 881 00:40:45,280 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 1: here on the sticks, the till moved, he dar