Speaker 1: We left fear family. So yes, like, come on, talk
Speaker 1: that talk Saidney, Come on, didn't you telling me Joe
Speaker 1: Rogan isn't slightly responsible for the coronavirus? Are you saying
Speaker 1: that on the record or this is on the record.
Speaker 1: That buff motherfucker has to have played a part in
Speaker 1: the coronav If you're telling me that eating things that
Speaker 1: we're not supposed to eat is how you get these diseases,
Speaker 1: then I have to believe that Joe Rogan making a
Speaker 1: bunch of white people eat madagascon cockroaches, he's going to
Speaker 1: lead to a potential deadly disease. Also, he's mixing that
Speaker 1: with muscle milk. He's telling people to eat cockroaches and
Speaker 1: then drink it down with muscle milk. That's gonna create
Speaker 1: something weird. Crock chips in your masqual mass are racist?
Speaker 1: Posting money's term of stuff. I can't tell me. Oh, oh,
Speaker 1: there it is. There it is. Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome
Speaker 1: to another spectacular, devastating, oh stunning episode of My Mama
Speaker 1: Told Me, the podcast where we dive deep into the
Speaker 1: world of black conspiracy theories and we finally work to
Speaker 1: prove that that little boy from Blackish is in fact
Speaker 1: one of omar Rosa's horcrux's. Yes, he absolutely is a
Speaker 1: part of her soul. Don't you dare try to be
Speaker 1: fooled by all that dancing and that charming little smile.
Speaker 1: That bastard is part of omar Rosa's spirit that she
Speaker 1: cut off, and it's using to indoctrinate the black community.
Speaker 1: I believe it, and I'll fight every day to prove it.
Speaker 1: I'm your host, Langston Kerman is always I'm coming in
Speaker 1: hot today, baby, not only because it's a good day,
Speaker 1: but hardly because I met my friend's house. I can't
Speaker 1: record in my own home because I just found out that,
Speaker 1: uh coax cables don't just come standard in homes. You know,
Speaker 1: the cable that you plug your motem into. I don't
Speaker 1: just show up everywhere. You gotta kind of earn that.
Speaker 1: I guess you gotta get somebody to come in and
Speaker 1: fix it for you. So I'm struggling. I'm using a
Speaker 1: different man's WiFi, which that doesn't make you feel powerful
Speaker 1: as a person. But here we are, and I'm enjoying it.
Speaker 1: I'm excited because today we have a spectacular guest. I
Speaker 1: bet she has three or four coax cables in her house.
Speaker 1: She has that kind of power, that kind of resources,
Speaker 1: that kind of sway in the industry. Her home is
Speaker 1: filled with coax cables. She's amazing, She's hilarious. She maybe
Speaker 1: is one of my biggest bullies on the internet. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know her from her wonderful podcast called Unofficial Expert.
Speaker 1: You know her from Comedy Central. You know her from
Speaker 1: just being hilarious around town and on the internet. Oh
Speaker 1: and Sid can Cook. Do not get about Sid can
Speaker 1: cook every Sunday. You know her from all the things.
Speaker 1: Give it up from my guest, Miss Sydney Washington. Hey,
Speaker 1: are you know I'm just I'm so proud of you.
Speaker 1: You got a podcast. This is great. I don't like
Speaker 1: you call me a bully. All I do is uplift you.
Speaker 1: I don't know that that's true at all. I think
Speaker 1: I think you've been very unkind to me in a
Speaker 1: multitude of space. All I say it's great. Thank I'm
Speaker 1: so proud of you. I'm so bad. We're friends. Uh.
Speaker 1: And if you ever if you ever need to borrow
Speaker 1: some WiFi from me, let me know. Man. Okay, if
Speaker 1: I ever need to borrow some WiFi. I just I'll
Speaker 1: let you, and you'll you'll take care of that, take
Speaker 1: care of me. I'll put it on my tap. Okay.
Speaker 1: And if I'm understanding you correctly, you're not even on
Speaker 1: your own WiFi right now? Am I understanding that correctly,
Speaker 1: you're on someone else's WiFi since the WiFi, Yes, I'm visiting,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm in l A. I'm usually in New York,
Speaker 1: but I am in l A right now. And uh,
Speaker 1: but I feel like this person's WiFi is also my WiFi. Sure,
Speaker 1: this is an extended family of wife exactly, and naturally
Speaker 1: you have no problem extending that family even further to me.
Speaker 1: Should I be in absolutely family's family. It's a beautiful proverb.
Speaker 1: And uh, it's one I like to go back to
Speaker 1: every evening. And I'm glad that you're extending it to me.
Speaker 1: I think you're ready for a commercial, right that was like,
Speaker 1: that's like right on the nose with like a T
Speaker 1: and T. Hey if one of those horrible companies and
Speaker 1: they're attached to the prison labor want to call me
Speaker 1: and asked me to say some nice things about their WiFi,
Speaker 1: I'll happily do it. I don't care that y'all have slaves.
Speaker 1: I will talk kindly about your WiFi, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Maybe slavery is necessary for good WiFi. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm not a learned man. I just know
Speaker 1: they have slaves and they have fantastic WiFi. Love. Is
Speaker 1: this a comparcy theory or a fact? Is this a
Speaker 1: lengthen fact? Or is this you know for a fact
Speaker 1: that they have slaves. I I know for a fact
Speaker 1: that a number of those companies that you listed use
Speaker 1: prison labor as part of their resourcing and are invested
Speaker 1: in private prisons. Do you want to call that slavery?
Speaker 1: I don't know. How woke are you, Sydney? How comfortable
Speaker 1: are you being on the other side of capitalism? I
Speaker 1: mean we all have cell phones though, Like, I mean,
Speaker 1: what plan are you on? Are you sending a messenger bird? Like?
Speaker 1: Don't see all this ship about these companies but still
Speaker 1: use it. Don't be hoped at Lengthen? Oh no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I absolutely will be hoping and I absolutely will be
Speaker 1: a complete walking contradiction. I am one hundred Listen. Let
Speaker 1: you say this carefully and explicitly. I will happily continue
Speaker 1: to use these products while simultaneously pointing out that they
Speaker 1: have flawed mission statements and flawed misuses of their products.
Speaker 1: Heard you, Okay, as long as we're being clear. But
Speaker 1: I just feel like the energy that you pushing off
Speaker 1: is I'm a bad person because I I low key
Speaker 1: promoted them. And now, oh no, this isn't about you
Speaker 1: at all. This is just me calling out the mean
Speaker 1: man who I also will call Daddy later. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I don't fight it. This is where
Speaker 1: we're at. I'm excited today. You sent a conspiracy theory
Speaker 1: that I think might be one of the most classic
Speaker 1: in all of Black history. That like, if anybody were
Speaker 1: to ask what is the most quid essential black conspiracy theory,
Speaker 1: you nailed it. And you said, my mama told me
Speaker 1: AIDS was created by the government to eliminate the blacks.
Speaker 1: The black said, I didn't. I didn't put that in
Speaker 1: the blacks, as I am a part of the blacks.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to say the blacks like I'm not
Speaker 1: a part of it. And we're all sure the blacks
Speaker 1: was not you pushing away from from your people. It
Speaker 1: was more of just the way that I assume the
Speaker 1: government would refer Yes, that's exactly, that's fair. And now okay,
Speaker 1: this is exciting because now we're getting into the classics, baby,
Speaker 1: and and is this a classic that you subscribe to? Uh? Alright,
Speaker 1: so on the record, right, this is all on the record.
Speaker 1: On the record, no, no, off the record is like,
Speaker 1: you know, if they try to cut this podcast up,
Speaker 1: and I'm like I said, off the record, so I
Speaker 1: got you. You know, what they promoted as like AIDS
Speaker 1: was getting the black and Latino community so hard, right,
Speaker 1: but then when we do the marches and when we
Speaker 1: do the like the movie Philadelphia, who had AIDS white people.
Speaker 1: If it was just blacks and Latinos that were highly affected,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't have been raising that much money. Uh So
Speaker 1: that's what I really think. I think that they made
Speaker 1: blacks the face of it, but overall it was really
Speaker 1: wiping out the beige and the Caucasians and that's why
Speaker 1: they were like, let's raise this money. I got you. Well,
Speaker 1: as a Beige, I'm devastated to hear that my people
Speaker 1: are being wiped out. But this is also okay, this
Speaker 1: this is a fascinating take on the issue, right, because
Speaker 1: what you're suggesting is that we are merely black people
Speaker 1: are merely front facing, uh, for this issue. We're not.
Speaker 1: It's not so much that we are experiencing it so
Speaker 1: much more than everyone else, but that they want us
Speaker 1: to believe that we're experiencing it more than everyone else
Speaker 1: because they wanted to be a black and brown problem.
Speaker 1: Is that what you mean, right? It's it's a it's
Speaker 1: a scare tactic. It's saying, well, you guys are out here,
Speaker 1: you're doing drugs the most, you're you're the most gay.
Speaker 1: Because at first it was like, oh, well, only like
Speaker 1: gay people were getting AIDS, and then they realized like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's like blood transfusions, like anybody drugs. It's not just
Speaker 1: the sexuality thing. Anybody can get it. So but if
Speaker 1: they put that on the community, then it makes you
Speaker 1: feel less inclined to actually be proud of who you are, like, oh,
Speaker 1: well all my people are getting AIDS like that, well right, damn.
Speaker 1: See that's the problem. They're not pitching aids. There's something tight.
Speaker 1: They could be like AIDS is dope and everybody's getting it.
Speaker 1: Look at you, the gays, the whites were all everybody's
Speaker 1: enjoying some AIDS. But instead they made it a horrible
Speaker 1: thing that only black and brown people were in. Gay
Speaker 1: people were being attached to, right, I mean, and then
Speaker 1: you watched the movie Philadelphia, and you just see so
Speaker 1: many of the themes in the movie, like, oh, it
Speaker 1: is about the gays, we are going to put it
Speaker 1: on the gays. But then you see this white man
Speaker 1: that you're like, oh, he is relatable, he is human.
Speaker 1: Now we care and we have Denzel Washington is like, oh,
Speaker 1: the strong black lawyer that you're like, oh, finally we
Speaker 1: get to see him the way that we want to
Speaker 1: see black people. But he's low key, like homophobic. Yeah
Speaker 1: I said low key, but it was hikey. It was
Speaker 1: hikey low key about it, very very very loud. So
Speaker 1: you remember in that movie Antonio Banderis and Tom Hanks
Speaker 1: are hooking up. That was pretty cool. Yeah, it was,
Speaker 1: I mean, the progressive as fuck movie. But we but
Speaker 1: we needed to see that movie for us to realize, Oh,
Speaker 1: but when white people get a it's like, we should care.
Speaker 1: It's not a bad thing. Oh look how people are
Speaker 1: treating them so poorly. Right, But that's okay because he
Speaker 1: was like a big fancy lawyer. He was all the
Speaker 1: story that white people sort of associate with like a
Speaker 1: clean life, life without trials and tribulation. And here we
Speaker 1: see Tom Hanks at sort of like his most successful
Speaker 1: at least in movies and television that we've seen him
Speaker 1: also being afflicted with this terrible disease. Absolutely, and that
Speaker 1: is when they turned it around and they were like, oh, yes,
Speaker 1: it is happening to the black and latinos, but now
Speaker 1: we should actually do something about it and care. And
Speaker 1: see that's where they did it even more fund up
Speaker 1: because Tom Hanks was smushing into Antonio Banderis in that
Speaker 1: movie and they forced another Latin X person. Yes, associated
Speaker 1: did with a disease that otherwise in this situation should
Speaker 1: just be about the white maid. Yes, okay, I hear
Speaker 1: I hear your tone and I'm on the record. I
Speaker 1: I hear you on the record. I hear you, yes,
Speaker 1: but on the record. I'm like, I hear you on
Speaker 1: the record, but off the record. Yes, okay, you zoned
Speaker 1: in on the record. Let's just keep tracking this throughout.
Speaker 1: I want you to keep telling me these feelings are
Speaker 1: on the record or off the record throughout the whole
Speaker 1: of the podcast. That way we know what you really
Speaker 1: funk with. And what you have to present you funk
Speaker 1: with so that you know these whites don't turn on you.
Speaker 1: I love that your light skin, did uh man spleaning
Speaker 1: my bit? I love it? Well, all right, let's make
Speaker 1: it a gender issue too. I would like for you,
Speaker 1: at any point to tell me when I have overstepped
Speaker 1: my position and have turned this into another example of
Speaker 1: the patriarchy. Yeah, feel free. I see you got your
Speaker 1: little as podcast. Now you want to explain my jokes
Speaker 1: lngs and I see what you're doing over there. Well,
Speaker 1: if you explain them better yourself, I wouldn't have to
Speaker 1: get up in here and do it a second time.
Speaker 1: Not just facts anyway, that's funnier than Let me ask
Speaker 1: you this, yes, because because I think what you're getting
Speaker 1: into is very interesting. I'm bought in right, But let
Speaker 1: me ask you this from home? Did you first hear
Speaker 1: this conspiracy theory? Where do you think the source material
Speaker 1: actually came from? For you? I do want to say
Speaker 1: that it came from I won't say necessary my mother,
Speaker 1: but like mother adjacent like I'm listening into conversations of
Speaker 1: like grown folks that like Ramona, which is her first name,
Speaker 1: Ramona Marie um y'all don't have to black that out.
Speaker 1: She knows that, you know, she know what she knows.
Speaker 1: But adults that have these conversations, um, when they think
Speaker 1: that kids are not listening, they do talk about that
Speaker 1: and how um I mean, I was born in Harlem
Speaker 1: when the crack epidemic was at its highest, and so
Speaker 1: not only did I know about the crack, but also
Speaker 1: the AIDS. So UM, I constantly like getting older, like
Speaker 1: not an adult, but just being a kid and knowing
Speaker 1: like I moved to California because there were so much
Speaker 1: drugs in my neighborhood and because of I don't think
Speaker 1: necessarily AIDS, but mainly because of the drugs. They're like,
Speaker 1: if you go and live in Oakland, California, you'll be
Speaker 1: able to be a kid and having life. Well, that's
Speaker 1: you're hitting on something really fascinating because even in them
Speaker 1: talking about AIDS and them talking about sort of like
Speaker 1: this very terrible disease, right, you're dealing with the second
Speaker 1: type of framing. So you're dealing with the drug epidemic
Speaker 1: that's happening in your community and that's the scary thing
Speaker 1: that everybody's talking about, which means that AIDS sort of
Speaker 1: finds itself at best in a number two positions where
Speaker 1: it's not the most dangerous thing that's happening, when it
Speaker 1: might have been an equally dangerous issue or you know,
Speaker 1: sort of pandemic that exists in your community. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's hard to talk about this because there could have
Speaker 1: possibly been somebody in my family that was like gay
Speaker 1: and when they when people did talk about AIDS, they
Speaker 1: and also being gay, it's like they're both a bad thing.
Speaker 1: It's not good, but also like being gay and having
Speaker 1: AIDS is worse than drugs, right, right, Because like I
Speaker 1: could have had one family member that was on crack
Speaker 1: and then the other family was on with gay and
Speaker 1: they're like, I'd rather you be crack because then we
Speaker 1: can fix that. We can fix you can get off
Speaker 1: of crack, but you can't get off the dick, and
Speaker 1: you can't fix AIDS. This is all off the record,
Speaker 1: and that what I said that was off that dick
Speaker 1: is to a dick. We can't get you off that,
Speaker 1: but but crack correct, we can send you somewhere and
Speaker 1: we can clean you up. Goddamn that delicious dick. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: being off the record, off the record, but dick is fantastic,
Speaker 1: is apparently what we're here. Okay, So that's very interesting
Speaker 1: because that means it's such a complicated layering of the
Speaker 1: things that sort of UH we struggle with in black communities. Right,
Speaker 1: is it's never a single issue. When white people are
Speaker 1: being hit with like the opioid crisis right now, they're
Speaker 1: able to treat it like a regular issue. We are
Speaker 1: doing too many UH pills, and we need to stop
Speaker 1: doing pills, and we will set up programs to stop
Speaker 1: people from doing pills. Suddenly the crisis goes away. But
Speaker 1: for black people, you're dealing with poverty, you're dealing with drugs,
Speaker 1: you're dealing with violence, you're dealing with all these other racism, racism,
Speaker 1: just general racism that probably lead to all the things
Speaker 1: that were listed, right, And so you subsequently are never
Speaker 1: able to just be free of the singular issues because
Speaker 1: all of them are layered on top of each other. Right.
Speaker 1: And then at first they were saying, like AIDS was
Speaker 1: really prevalent in Africa. Was it the AIDS hit Africa
Speaker 1: first and then it came to the United States, or
Speaker 1: was it like it started in Africa but then blew
Speaker 1: up in America. But then went back to Africa, like,
Speaker 1: what was it? Was it on four? Was Aids on four?
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get this correct. Aids is on a
Speaker 1: fifty city tour international and uh, it made it stops.
Speaker 1: But you know, like many artists that hit big in
Speaker 1: certain cities towns, much like you know the Beatles or
Speaker 1: your jay Z's if you will, then Aids was jay Z,
Speaker 1: Aids and jay Z. That sounds similar. Uh. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you remember this. I definitely remember hearing it
Speaker 1: as a kid, because I never knew where Aids came from.
Speaker 1: The origin story that we used to always spread at
Speaker 1: school was that somebody had sucked the monkey yep, in Africa,
Speaker 1: in Africa and in all of the continent of Africa.
Speaker 1: There was never any specificity or where in Africa, but
Speaker 1: generally an African person fucked a monkey and then uh
Speaker 1: created AIDS. And in fact, I don't did you hear
Speaker 1: it was an African person? No, we just know that
Speaker 1: it was a man a monkey, and Aids started. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I ink, as I'm thinking about in the reason I
Speaker 1: asked that question, a part of me thinks maybe I
Speaker 1: heard that it wasn't an African person, but that also
Speaker 1: could have been that Chappelle bit that's very funny, like uh,
Speaker 1: fucking chimp chim and he feels it like a banana. Well,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be another off the record thing. But
Speaker 1: if we're just like historically looking at the beige man,
Speaker 1: I think they would be more likely to have sex
Speaker 1: with a monkey than an African American, right, Uh, certainly
Speaker 1: a black person. Yeah. I would assume the black people
Speaker 1: that lived in the area where AIDS was first creative
Speaker 1: or sort of at least transition, they had seen monkeys
Speaker 1: before they were called monkeys, so then they well I
Speaker 1: don't just I don't just see them like being in
Speaker 1: Africa their cousin, Right, you don't. You don't see a
Speaker 1: monkey every single day and be like, I don't know
Speaker 1: what it is today, but this one looks sexiest for right, Right,
Speaker 1: it's the person that goes there and it's like on
Speaker 1: vacation and it's like, I want to try something different,
Speaker 1: and then I want to put I want to put
Speaker 1: crome rolls with little beads at the end, you know,
Speaker 1: and then I want to come on, I want to
Speaker 1: That's what they do when they're on vacation, isn't I
Speaker 1: it happens in the Bahamas all the time. I want
Speaker 1: to get my hair braided, I want to buy weed
Speaker 1: from a person who doesn't sell weed, don't want to
Speaker 1: suck a monkey. Yeah, these are the normal vacation behaviors
Speaker 1: that white people have participated in for generations. So I
Speaker 1: let's agree it was a white person who fucked that monkey. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but in order for I mean, do you know the
Speaker 1: numbers of how many people were actually killed from AIDS
Speaker 1: during the epidemic? Uh? Not off hand? No? I what
Speaker 1: this ain't a research podcast. Yeah, they said that you
Speaker 1: were going to do the hardware, so I figured that
Speaker 1: you will me with some statistics, some numbers, like I will.
Speaker 1: But I saved that for the second act. You out
Speaker 1: here asking for it just to be available to you,
Speaker 1: and uh, I think that's unfair. And if there's a
Speaker 1: woman explaining, I think you're doing that, No such thing.
Speaker 1: Don't you think you're doing the wrong thing. We give
Speaker 1: you enough time to talk and explain. That's that's usually
Speaker 1: what women do. I feel differently as a person that
Speaker 1: lives with a woman. Uh. Currently, Oh it's different. You're married,
Speaker 1: This is not she's helping you if anything? Okay, this
Speaker 1: help that she's providing. So when I'm being picked at
Speaker 1: and held captive for the choices that I'm making, this
Speaker 1: is a person bettering me. Okay, I'm glad we cleared
Speaker 1: that up because, uh, it feels like I'm in prison.
Speaker 1: But I hear now that maybe jail is good for me,
Speaker 1: that this is going to reform me. This is gonna
Speaker 1: allow me to be a better person. On the record
Speaker 1: or off the record. I'd say it's off the record,
Speaker 1: but I lost track of what the rules are for
Speaker 1: on the record and off the record because you weren't listening.
Speaker 1: I wasn't listening. I was too busy, man, sweating, and
Speaker 1: I've learned a lot today. Okay, We're gonna take a
Speaker 1: break and then we're gonna be back with more Sydney
Speaker 1: Washington and more. My mama told me, and we are
Speaker 1: that I'm not gay, no more I am. We're back
Speaker 1: here with more Sydney, Washington and more. My mama told me.
Speaker 1: We're still talking about that that gruesome AIDS virus and
Speaker 1: where it came from and the possibility that was all
Speaker 1: started by a man who fucked a monkey, a white man,
Speaker 1: a beige man. As Sydney calls them who had sex
Speaker 1: with a monkey. I I don't know if that's true.
Speaker 1: I think for after a while that got refuted pretty quickly.
Speaker 1: I think white people didn't like that as a potential
Speaker 1: uh spreader, you know what I mean, like as a
Speaker 1: potential source of where this came from. But they also
Speaker 1: didn't want us to know that it was hitting them
Speaker 1: harder than what we were the information that we were
Speaker 1: getting right, that this was for a while just exclusively
Speaker 1: black and brown. Yeah, because then you go to the walks,
Speaker 1: you should go to the AIDS walk and it's like
Speaker 1: all these white people with quilts of their friends and
Speaker 1: it's like, your friends also look like you. So y'all
Speaker 1: all were all at this and it's I'm talking about
Speaker 1: thousands and thousands of people walking for AIDS. And I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that black people don't walk, but we were
Speaker 1: not at those walks like that. And that's that's where
Speaker 1: it gets complicated, is were we not invited to those
Speaker 1: walks or were we invited? And we just don't have
Speaker 1: the numbers that y'all have for these walks. One way
Speaker 1: or the other. Something uh, something tricky is happening here.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, So I did some research. I dug into
Speaker 1: some research that I'm now ready to talk to you about,
Speaker 1: not like before when you were just trying to throw
Speaker 1: it at me. I'm ready to talk to you about
Speaker 1: the research I found now, and what I would love
Speaker 1: for you to do. What I'd love to happen is
Speaker 1: I share some research and you give me your thoughts
Speaker 1: on it. The interesting part of this research that really
Speaker 1: starts off in a weird way is that they start
Speaker 1: off by talking about every article I read at least
Speaker 1: talks about AIDS in the African American community, which I
Speaker 1: don't know if that word bothers you or that term
Speaker 1: bothers you as much as it does for me. But
Speaker 1: I I typed in, like how does AIDS affect black people?
Speaker 1: And then they're like, African Americans suffer from AIDS at
Speaker 1: this number. And it's like that feels like a white
Speaker 1: person came in and uh, fix this. Does that make sense?
Speaker 1: But also it does sound problematic for them to just
Speaker 1: call us black, the blacks black like it just you know,
Speaker 1: it's uh, they say African Americans, so they don't sound
Speaker 1: as racist as it comes off. They tongue. Oh see,
Speaker 1: I take it. The opposite way, and that African American
Speaker 1: feels like a long way for them to call me nigger.
Speaker 1: Over take. This feels jarring in a way that I
Speaker 1: don't care for. But I full agree to disagree about
Speaker 1: this one. Okay, keep going, Keep going. So the first
Speaker 1: real case of AIDS as we know it came in
Speaker 1: June of right, but before then, there were plenty of
Speaker 1: cases that probably were people dying or suffering from the
Speaker 1: AIDS virus, but they didn't know it as such. They
Speaker 1: were actually calling it like a super pneumonia and everybody
Speaker 1: that's dying is like getting this super pneumonia or whenever
Speaker 1: they were calling it back then, And it wasn't until
Speaker 1: later that they discovered like, oh shit, this actually might
Speaker 1: be its own disease and not just you know, somebody
Speaker 1: with a bad cold kind of thing. When you think
Speaker 1: about it, were just listening. It's like AIDS in Corona
Speaker 1: is it's so close. There's a lot of crossover, and
Speaker 1: it really all comes down to who's willing to wear
Speaker 1: a mask, a penis mask or a mouth mask, you know,
Speaker 1: and you see who's not wearing a mask, and you
Speaker 1: see who's not wearing a mask, and who's having protests
Speaker 1: outside about not wearing masks. Literally, entire white cities are
Speaker 1: shutting down about not wearing masks Black people. If we're
Speaker 1: not wearing masks, we kind of just do it privately. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we ain't making a big funk about it. It's just like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna wear it. I'm gonna hang out with whoever.
Speaker 1: I'm comfortable with the record. I'm gonna say that's not
Speaker 1: true because I've seen I don't know if I could
Speaker 1: say this, but Nigga is on the Graham going live
Speaker 1: at at a club in Atlanta and had a mask on.
Speaker 1: So I I just I just want to throw that
Speaker 1: out there. I don't know if that was like, say,
Speaker 1: but I just off the record, I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I've seen a lot of people just I
Speaker 1: was like, baby, where do you live Florida? Oh that's why.
Speaker 1: That's why Florida is very prevalent with the with the
Speaker 1: Corona because they just got hookah everywhere. Well, I would
Speaker 1: say this, first of all, it's devastating to hear you
Speaker 1: throw black people under number two. I hate that you
Speaker 1: hate you need you need balance, you needed balance. I
Speaker 1: hate that you hate black people. So much. But that's
Speaker 1: the number two. What I will say is that I
Speaker 1: totally agree that we are a hundred percent being irresponsible
Speaker 1: in our behaviors with Corona. But I think the difference
Speaker 1: is we ain't making this everybody's problem. This is just
Speaker 1: some ship that we're gonna do. If you decide to
Speaker 1: be a part of it, great, If you decide not
Speaker 1: to be a part of it, go home, nig I'm
Speaker 1: about to get some pussy, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like I ain't. I'm not been about like making this
Speaker 1: some sort of like march on the streets about how
Speaker 1: this is taking away my rights in part because black
Speaker 1: people haven't had the right to be that free in
Speaker 1: the first place. But I also want to say, in
Speaker 1: terms of Corona, I can talk to so many people
Speaker 1: who they know somebody who died of Corona Corona when
Speaker 1: they were saying how the like AIDS epidemic was happening, Um,
Speaker 1: I did not know that many people who were dying
Speaker 1: of AIDS. Sure, you were also five, so yes, they
Speaker 1: probably wasn't telling me you're right, Yeah, it wasn't like
Speaker 1: you were hanging out with kids at the playground who
Speaker 1: were Yeah. But I mean the parents the way and
Speaker 1: I grew up with like old old old black people,
Speaker 1: like over six five, the way they talk, you were
Speaker 1: gonna know, well, you know he died in that thing, right,
Speaker 1: got him? What what? What was it? But when you
Speaker 1: hear that language, you know later on Sylvester died of AIDS. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's what it was. If they died of drugs, we
Speaker 1: know that they will have no problem saying that they died.
Speaker 1: They'll say the drug, they'll say that. But if it's
Speaker 1: if it's that dangerous words of AIDS, now we're in
Speaker 1: a different conversation. Well, it's fascinating you say that because
Speaker 1: some of the research that I found, because there's a
Speaker 1: bunch of studies that basically try to figure out where
Speaker 1: this conspiracy theory comes from. In a big response that
Speaker 1: people are having about the misunderstandings around AIDS are certainly
Speaker 1: like the conspiracies around AIDS are rooted in a distrust
Speaker 1: of the government that black and brown people don't naturally
Speaker 1: trust the govern a mint and therefore are not believing
Speaker 1: the suggestions that the government makes about the best ways
Speaker 1: of dealing with any pandemic. That like, just because y'all
Speaker 1: said it's the correct way of handling things doesn't mean
Speaker 1: it actually is correct, because there's a history here of
Speaker 1: y'all telling us stuff is correct and it not being
Speaker 1: and so like there's a bunch of examples throughout history
Speaker 1: of like the I tried to dig up things that
Speaker 1: the government had done to black and brown people, and
Speaker 1: one of the biggest things that sort of comes out is,
Speaker 1: obviously you have your Tuskegee symphilis experiments where they did
Speaker 1: all that awful ship by basically testing these syphilis uh
Speaker 1: literally the fucking disease on black people and just letting
Speaker 1: it kill them. But then, uh, you have all these
Speaker 1: examples of sterilization in black and brown communities that like
Speaker 1: either after pregnancy or during pregnancy or at the age
Speaker 1: that they are even available to have kids, black and
Speaker 1: brown people being made sterile by their physician because they
Speaker 1: are considered, you know, not ready to have a baby
Speaker 1: for whatever reason. Yeah. So I mean, at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, I can say that it is a
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory the the whole, like how AIDS was created
Speaker 1: and who was it for. But the way things work,
Speaker 1: it affects everybody. M hmm. Like it's not a racial thing.
Speaker 1: It's not a racial thing. It only becomes a racial
Speaker 1: thing if you're it's propaganda for me, Yes, exactly, That's
Speaker 1: how they get you, because then now you're talking something
Speaker 1: that I truly believe, I don't know a hundred that
Speaker 1: AIDS was engineered in a lab by evil white man
Speaker 1: who then distributed it in the black community. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure that I'm brought into that, But what I am
Speaker 1: brought into is the very real possibility that they are
Speaker 1: intentionally created being a mistrust, a distrust with the government
Speaker 1: and black and brown people, so that they can continue
Speaker 1: to grow AIDS or grow these negative diseases in our community.
Speaker 1: That so long as we don't trust each other, there's
Speaker 1: never going to be any real education around prevention and
Speaker 1: health in these communities. Does that make sense? That makes sense?
Speaker 1: That that definitely makes sense, because when like when we
Speaker 1: had like the war on drugs, right, it was like, why, well,
Speaker 1: why is there a looker store on every other corner,
Speaker 1: or where are they getting the guns? And how are
Speaker 1: they making the drugs? How are they getting the drugs?
Speaker 1: And it's like, yeah, that I do believe that somebody
Speaker 1: was pushing it in the communities. But then it's like,
Speaker 1: if we think it's the man doing this, then how
Speaker 1: do we stop it? M H. And then the propaganda
Speaker 1: funs up your head and you you there's no solutions.
Speaker 1: There's just us talking about what it could possibly be
Speaker 1: and not fixing the issue exactly. And I would argue,
Speaker 1: I think they like being the man. To your point,
Speaker 1: I think that there's a part of the white community
Speaker 1: that truly wants to remain the man in this situation
Speaker 1: because it enables the power for them and then also
Speaker 1: enables us to kill ourselves for their benefit. That like,
Speaker 1: so long as the man exists, we can't actually fix
Speaker 1: the problem. And if we can't fix the problem, like
Speaker 1: you said, they get paid dollars of body for some reason. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and if you're in if at the time, like oh,
Speaker 1: AIDS is through sex, and it's like stopping us or
Speaker 1: scaring us to have sex and we can't comfortably have
Speaker 1: sex or we're having sex because oh, we're not supposed
Speaker 1: to be having sex. So when they were having these
Speaker 1: programs of sex education and making it like you should
Speaker 1: be waiting to have sex, everybody is having sex because
Speaker 1: you're telling us not to. And I'll go stop for
Speaker 1: I don't know how you feel, but the times I
Speaker 1: want pussy the most is when somebody says you can't
Speaker 1: have pussy. That's when I get the most excited about it. Well,
Speaker 1: off the record, that sounds very man of you, UH.
Speaker 1: As a woman. When I hear somebody doesn't want to
Speaker 1: have sex, that's when I said it's time to go
Speaker 1: to bed. Okay, Well, now you're making me sent an argument,
Speaker 1: and I feel like a monster. I think I was
Speaker 1: thinking more in terms of society, but you made this
Speaker 1: specifically about consent, and I want to be clear for
Speaker 1: my listeners that I'm not a rapist. I'm not a rapist.
Speaker 1: That's not what this podcasts. Honey, you said it. It
Speaker 1: came off yo tongue. We're gonna take another break and
Speaker 1: we'll be back with more Sydney Washington and more. My
Speaker 1: mama told me, damn we are. We're back here with Morris,
Speaker 1: Sydney Washington more. My mama told me. We're still talking
Speaker 1: about that pesky ade virus and where it comes from
Speaker 1: and why white people want us to believe that it's
Speaker 1: killing black and brown people. Do you still I feel
Speaker 1: like your community is UH is having the same fights
Speaker 1: that it was when you were a kid. Is Harlem
Speaker 1: still sort of like in the midst of the same
Speaker 1: sort of like battle that it was in when you
Speaker 1: were a child. No, it's gentrified as fun. It's gentrified.
Speaker 1: I mean when they put when they put the whole
Speaker 1: Foods there, when they well, originally when they put the
Speaker 1: red lobster there, I was like, oh, wow, they really
Speaker 1: cleaned up the place. And then I realized Opionce made
Speaker 1: that song and talked about the biscuits and you know
Speaker 1: why white people know about it, and now that they
Speaker 1: took red lobster from us, And then all of a
Speaker 1: sudden there was like a gap in all these different stores.
Speaker 1: And he's like, oh, if this is not for us,
Speaker 1: they're cleaning up a street four the Alabasters. So no,
Speaker 1: we don't. There's not as much crime and there's not
Speaker 1: as much well they said the New York has I
Speaker 1: love a crime right now. But that's because you know,
Speaker 1: people weren't working for a long time, and you know
Speaker 1: the cops. And but I will say that Harlem is
Speaker 1: not Harlem anymore. I mean it is white people everywhere.
Speaker 1: The culture is seeping out of our hands. Every year.
Speaker 1: I stepped into I used to live in Harlem Um
Speaker 1: like six years ago, and I lived in a brownstone
Speaker 1: and everybody in the building was black. When I left,
Speaker 1: everyone was white. My fault, Well, I will blame myself.
Speaker 1: My roommate was right and took over my apartment and
Speaker 1: then she invited another white person to live on the
Speaker 1: on the second floor. It was my fault. I gentrified
Speaker 1: my own building. But I'm just saying, oh man, you
Speaker 1: introduced the seed. You were the virus that ate the
Speaker 1: white blood else that that destroyed everything in that that community. Wow.
Speaker 1: This is patient zero for gentrification that we're speaking to
Speaker 1: this afternoon, and it's devastating. I am sorry, I am
Speaker 1: I think we should make that the title. Sydney Washington
Speaker 1: Hate you. I want to play a game with you.
Speaker 1: And this is a very fun game that I like
Speaker 1: to call ugly. You're disgusting, I'm gonna kill you. Give
Speaker 1: me okay, white lies. It's a fun game where I
Speaker 1: am going to introduce to you a conspiracy theory widely
Speaker 1: held in the white community, and I would like for
Speaker 1: you to unpack why you believe that white people care
Speaker 1: about this conspiracy so much. What do you think this
Speaker 1: offers to them. What are the sneaky motherfucker's up to?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? All right, check it out.
Speaker 1: Here's your conspiracy theory to unpack white people. For years,
Speaker 1: you're familiar with the Chicago fire. For years, white people
Speaker 1: have claimed that the Chicago fire was started by a
Speaker 1: cow owned by Mrs O'Leary. Catherine O'Leary was started by
Speaker 1: a cow kicking over an oil lantern and then that
Speaker 1: oil lantern leading to these massive fires across like three
Speaker 1: thousand acres of Chicago. Why do you think that white
Speaker 1: people are so committed to this argument that Katherine O'Leary's
Speaker 1: cow is the cause of the Chicago fire. Who's Catherine
Speaker 1: O'Leary Just a lady who had a cow and they
Speaker 1: just named anybody it was Katherine O'Leary, Catherine O'Leary. She
Speaker 1: was a real lady. She wasn't it's a real lady.
Speaker 1: But it just right there when you start off with
Speaker 1: the name boom, I'm not. I'm don't believe you. Catherine
Speaker 1: at a cow. It sounds like a fable. Okay, long
Speaker 1: long time ago, Catherine o leary had a cow, and
Speaker 1: the cow and the cow over the moon. Like, it's
Speaker 1: just I mean, they're so they have to believe in
Speaker 1: this because they don't want to be seen as terrible people. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm listening. I mean when you look at Rosewood, when
Speaker 1: you look at the you know, Black Wall Street, when
Speaker 1: like them tearing down our communities because of race, when
Speaker 1: you hit them with those facts, are like, oh, that
Speaker 1: shows them how trash they are. So if they so,
Speaker 1: we can't really pinpoint how these fires started. If you
Speaker 1: say something outrageous like this cow kicked over this thing
Speaker 1: and the fire started, they won't. We can't say that, oh,
Speaker 1: white people started this fire to tear down Chicago from
Speaker 1: the black I mean, you're saying that there could have
Speaker 1: been something more sinister happening here, and they tried to
Speaker 1: cuting it up by being like, oh, it was a
Speaker 1: cow that kicked over the lantern and not one of
Speaker 1: us that did that. You know what makes even more
Speaker 1: fascinating because I think at that time Chicago, at least
Speaker 1: the sections that burned, or at least part of what burned,
Speaker 1: was a predominantly white community. But here's what's fascinating. Katherine
Speaker 1: O'Leary is an Irish name, and at the time that
Speaker 1: this cow kicks over this lantern. Quote unquote Mrs O'Leary's cow.
Speaker 1: The Irish were the niggas of the America's right that like,
Speaker 1: they were the people that white people detested almost as
Speaker 1: much as they detested us, not quite as much as
Speaker 1: they never made them slaves. They yeah, they just yelled
Speaker 1: at him a lot until they couldn't work at places.
Speaker 1: But I think that a part of it was like, well, okay,
Speaker 1: there were no black people around, so we'll just blame
Speaker 1: it on this Irish lady in her stupid cow. Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe you're right. I mean, I mean, I've never even
Speaker 1: heard of that story until right now, So the story
Speaker 1: dumb as hell. But yeah, it's not a good story now,
Speaker 1: not for the one of the biggest wires in history
Speaker 1: to burn down an entire city. I will tell you that,
Speaker 1: like the smallest fire can turn into something big. I
Speaker 1: know this because I burned my house down as a child,
Speaker 1: and it was just a small like me lighting a
Speaker 1: fake cigar that was plastic. It caught on fire and
Speaker 1: melted into a bag of newspapers that I was so
Speaker 1: unaware I did not know that these bags were there.
Speaker 1: And then thirty minutes later, the whole front of the
Speaker 1: house is just in flames. So yeah, I can't. I can't.
Speaker 1: You burn it to the point that it was unlivable,
Speaker 1: Like you could not live there. We couldn't live there.
Speaker 1: We had to relocate um to our cousin's house and
Speaker 1: stay there for almost a year. So you, you, in essence,
Speaker 1: are Mrs O'Leary. You are this person who may or
Speaker 1: may not be responsible for it, but that people were
Speaker 1: going to place blame on no matter what. Yeah, what happened. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I'm like, honestly, I was like, you know what,
Speaker 1: that the cow probably did it. Don't blame Catherine. I'm
Speaker 1: sucking cow. My bad. Well, here's the craziest part is
Speaker 1: you said you let this play cigar. You put it
Speaker 1: in a pile of newspapers. No, I didn't put it.
Speaker 1: Don't do that. Don't get the story right. It melted
Speaker 1: into a bag of newspapers. Okay, it was an accident.
Speaker 1: It was It was an accident. Okay, you accidentally it
Speaker 1: was an accident. May not have been associated with but
Speaker 1: we'll we'll presume that you weren't. Let's just go there.
Speaker 1: Allegedly that melted into this bag part of the way
Speaker 1: that Chicago fire happened is because the entire city at
Speaker 1: that point was made of wood, do you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like was made of wood, much like your
Speaker 1: newspaper in your bags and whatever. So it's it's this
Speaker 1: dumb thing where it's like, well, yeah, if there's any fire,
Speaker 1: this whole thing is gonna go up in flames, because
Speaker 1: y'all ain't Why the funk would you make a whole
Speaker 1: city out of wood? Who does that? Who has bags
Speaker 1: of newspaper laying around that the home? You know? I
Speaker 1: just think that it's um, it's time, it's time to
Speaker 1: you know, be better with our fires and not blame people.
Speaker 1: And it's not the cow's fault. It's not Catherine Leary's fault,
Speaker 1: and we just need to it's not it's not a
Speaker 1: white lie. I think it actually happened, and we need
Speaker 1: to respect it did happen, but we need to not
Speaker 1: blame them for it. Is what you're suggesting that we
Speaker 1: should free Catherine or Leary from the obligation to the
Speaker 1: feeling clear Catherine's name. She's a good lady and she
Speaker 1: had a nice cow in that lantern. Wasn't her fault? Cows.
Speaker 1: Not the smartest, not the smartest animal. Off the record,
Speaker 1: I'm a cow. Okay, Well, I think that does it.
Speaker 1: I think we've solved all the problems that we needed
Speaker 1: to solve today. I think more than anything, we've learned
Speaker 1: that it probably is engineered. And even if it isn't,
Speaker 1: the intentional engineering of hatred and fear is part of
Speaker 1: the way that you keep these diseases spreading and dangerous
Speaker 1: in the black and brown communities. No wonder you're married,
Speaker 1: you're you're a good man. We really appreciate all the
Speaker 1: information you have in that. But five seven or five seven,
Speaker 1: all right, now this is coming into how dare you
Speaker 1: my license? My license, my driver's license at five eleven?
Speaker 1: And I stand by that. I stand by it. I'm
Speaker 1: a I'm a medium sized man, and I'll never let
Speaker 1: you degrade you little me. All right, Sydney, tell the
Speaker 1: people where they can find you. I'm done with you.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, tell the people. I have a podcast called
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