WEBVTT - "I am AIDS" with Sydnee Washington

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<v Speaker 1>We left fear family. So yes, like, come on, talk

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<v Speaker 1>that talk Saidney, Come on, didn't you telling me Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Rogan isn't slightly responsible for the coronavirus? Are you saying

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<v Speaker 1>that on the record or this is on the record.

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<v Speaker 1>That buff motherfucker has to have played a part in

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<v Speaker 1>the coronav If you're telling me that eating things that

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<v Speaker 1>we're not supposed to eat is how you get these diseases,

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<v Speaker 1>then I have to believe that Joe Rogan making a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of white people eat madagascon cockroaches, he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>lead to a potential deadly disease. Also, he's mixing that

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<v Speaker 1>with muscle milk. He's telling people to eat cockroaches and

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<v Speaker 1>then drink it down with muscle milk. That's gonna create

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<v Speaker 1>something weird. Crock chips in your masqual mass are racist?

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<v Speaker 1>Posting money's term of stuff. I can't tell me. Oh, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>there it is. There it is. Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to another spectacular, devastating, oh stunning episode of My Mama

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<v Speaker 1>Told Me, the podcast where we dive deep into the

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<v Speaker 1>world of black conspiracy theories and we finally work to

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<v Speaker 1>prove that that little boy from Blackish is in fact

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<v Speaker 1>one of omar Rosa's horcrux's. Yes, he absolutely is a

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<v Speaker 1>part of her soul. Don't you dare try to be

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<v Speaker 1>fooled by all that dancing and that charming little smile.

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<v Speaker 1>That bastard is part of omar Rosa's spirit that she

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<v Speaker 1>cut off, and it's using to indoctrinate the black community.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe it, and I'll fight every day to prove it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Langston Kerman is always I'm coming in

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<v Speaker 1>hot today, baby, not only because it's a good day,

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<v Speaker 1>but hardly because I met my friend's house. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>record in my own home because I just found out that,

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<v Speaker 1>uh coax cables don't just come standard in homes. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the cable that you plug your motem into. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>just show up everywhere. You gotta kind of earn that.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you gotta get somebody to come in and

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<v Speaker 1>fix it for you. So I'm struggling. I'm using a

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<v Speaker 1>different man's WiFi, which that doesn't make you feel powerful

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<v Speaker 1>as a person. But here we are, and I'm enjoying it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited because today we have a spectacular guest. I

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<v Speaker 1>bet she has three or four coax cables in her house.

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<v Speaker 1>She has that kind of power, that kind of resources,

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of sway in the industry. Her home is

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<v Speaker 1>filled with coax cables. She's amazing, She's hilarious. She maybe

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<v Speaker 1>is one of my biggest bullies on the internet. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know her from her wonderful podcast called Unofficial Expert.

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<v Speaker 1>You know her from Comedy Central. You know her from

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<v Speaker 1>just being hilarious around town and on the internet. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>and Sid can Cook. Do not get about Sid can

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<v Speaker 1>cook every Sunday. You know her from all the things.

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<v Speaker 1>Give it up from my guest, Miss Sydney Washington. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>are you know I'm just I'm so proud of you.

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<v Speaker 1>You got a podcast. This is great. I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>you call me a bully. All I do is uplift you.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that that's true at all. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I think you've been very unkind to me in a

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<v Speaker 1>multitude of space. All I say it's great. Thank I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so proud of you. I'm so bad. We're friends. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you ever if you ever need to borrow

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<v Speaker 1>some WiFi from me, let me know. Man. Okay, if

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<v Speaker 1>I ever need to borrow some WiFi. I just I'll

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<v Speaker 1>let you, and you'll you'll take care of that, take

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<v Speaker 1>care of me. I'll put it on my tap. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And if I'm understanding you correctly, you're not even on

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<v Speaker 1>your own WiFi right now? Am I understanding that correctly,

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<v Speaker 1>you're on someone else's WiFi since the WiFi, Yes, I'm visiting,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm in l A. I'm usually in New York,

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<v Speaker 1>but I am in l A right now. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>but I feel like this person's WiFi is also my WiFi. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>this is an extended family of wife exactly, and naturally

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<v Speaker 1>you have no problem extending that family even further to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Should I be in absolutely family's family. It's a beautiful proverb.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, it's one I like to go back to

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<v Speaker 1>every evening. And I'm glad that you're extending it to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're ready for a commercial, right that was like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's like right on the nose with like a T

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<v Speaker 1>and T. Hey if one of those horrible companies and

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<v Speaker 1>they're attached to the prison labor want to call me

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<v Speaker 1>and asked me to say some nice things about their WiFi,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll happily do it. I don't care that y'all have slaves.

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<v Speaker 1>I will talk kindly about your WiFi, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean? Maybe slavery is necessary for good WiFi. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I'm not a learned man. I just know

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<v Speaker 1>they have slaves and they have fantastic WiFi. Love. Is

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<v Speaker 1>this a comparcy theory or a fact? Is this a

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<v Speaker 1>lengthen fact? Or is this you know for a fact

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<v Speaker 1>that they have slaves. I I know for a fact

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<v Speaker 1>that a number of those companies that you listed use

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<v Speaker 1>prison labor as part of their resourcing and are invested

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<v Speaker 1>in private prisons. Do you want to call that slavery?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. How woke are you, Sydney? How comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>are you being on the other side of capitalism? I

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<v Speaker 1>mean we all have cell phones though, Like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what plan are you on? Are you sending a messenger bird? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't see all this ship about these companies but still

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<v Speaker 1>use it. Don't be hoped at Lengthen? Oh no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I absolutely will be hoping and I absolutely will be

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<v Speaker 1>a complete walking contradiction. I am one hundred Listen. Let

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<v Speaker 1>you say this carefully and explicitly. I will happily continue

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<v Speaker 1>to use these products while simultaneously pointing out that they

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<v Speaker 1>have flawed mission statements and flawed misuses of their products.

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<v Speaker 1>Heard you, Okay, as long as we're being clear. But

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like the energy that you pushing off

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<v Speaker 1>is I'm a bad person because I I low key

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<v Speaker 1>promoted them. And now, oh no, this isn't about you

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<v Speaker 1>at all. This is just me calling out the mean

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<v Speaker 1>man who I also will call Daddy later. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. I don't fight it. This is where

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<v Speaker 1>we're at. I'm excited today. You sent a conspiracy theory

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<v Speaker 1>that I think might be one of the most classic

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<v Speaker 1>in all of Black history. That like, if anybody were

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<v Speaker 1>to ask what is the most quid essential black conspiracy theory,

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<v Speaker 1>you nailed it. And you said, my mama told me

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<v Speaker 1>AIDS was created by the government to eliminate the blacks.

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<v Speaker 1>The black said, I didn't. I didn't put that in

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<v Speaker 1>the blacks, as I am a part of the blacks.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to say the blacks like I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>a part of it. And we're all sure the blacks

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<v Speaker 1>was not you pushing away from from your people. It

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<v Speaker 1>was more of just the way that I assume the

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<v Speaker 1>government would refer Yes, that's exactly, that's fair. And now okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is exciting because now we're getting into the classics, baby,

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<v Speaker 1>and and is this a classic that you subscribe to? Uh? Alright,

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<v Speaker 1>so on the record, right, this is all on the record.

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<v Speaker 1>On the record, no, no, off the record is like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if they try to cut this podcast up,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like I said, off the record, so I

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<v Speaker 1>got you. You know, what they promoted as like AIDS

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<v Speaker 1>was getting the black and Latino community so hard, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but then when we do the marches and when we

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<v Speaker 1>do the like the movie Philadelphia, who had AIDS white people.

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<v Speaker 1>If it was just blacks and Latinos that were highly affected,

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<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't have been raising that much money. Uh So

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I really think. I think that they made

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<v Speaker 1>blacks the face of it, but overall it was really

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<v Speaker 1>wiping out the beige and the Caucasians and that's why

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<v Speaker 1>they were like, let's raise this money. I got you. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>as a Beige, I'm devastated to hear that my people

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<v Speaker 1>are being wiped out. But this is also okay, this

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<v Speaker 1>this is a fascinating take on the issue, right, because

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<v Speaker 1>what you're suggesting is that we are merely black people

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<v Speaker 1>are merely front facing, uh, for this issue. We're not.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not so much that we are experiencing it so

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<v Speaker 1>much more than everyone else, but that they want us

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<v Speaker 1>to believe that we're experiencing it more than everyone else

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<v Speaker 1>because they wanted to be a black and brown problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what you mean, right? It's it's a it's

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<v Speaker 1>a scare tactic. It's saying, well, you guys are out here,

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing drugs the most, you're you're the most gay.

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<v Speaker 1>Because at first it was like, oh, well, only like

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<v Speaker 1>gay people were getting AIDS, and then they realized like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like blood transfusions, like anybody drugs. It's not just

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<v Speaker 1>the sexuality thing. Anybody can get it. So but if

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<v Speaker 1>they put that on the community, then it makes you

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<v Speaker 1>feel less inclined to actually be proud of who you are, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>well all my people are getting AIDS like that, well right, damn.

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<v Speaker 1>See that's the problem. They're not pitching aids. There's something tight.

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<v Speaker 1>They could be like AIDS is dope and everybody's getting it.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at you, the gays, the whites were all everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>enjoying some AIDS. But instead they made it a horrible

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<v Speaker 1>thing that only black and brown people were in. Gay

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<v Speaker 1>people were being attached to, right, I mean, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you watched the movie Philadelphia, and you just see so

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<v Speaker 1>many of the themes in the movie, like, oh, it

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<v Speaker 1>is about the gays, we are going to put it

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<v Speaker 1>on the gays. But then you see this white man

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<v Speaker 1>that you're like, oh, he is relatable, he is human.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we care and we have Denzel Washington is like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>the strong black lawyer that you're like, oh, finally we

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<v Speaker 1>get to see him the way that we want to

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<v Speaker 1>see black people. But he's low key, like homophobic. Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>I said low key, but it was hikey. It was

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<v Speaker 1>hikey low key about it, very very very loud. So

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<v Speaker 1>you remember in that movie Antonio Banderis and Tom Hanks

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<v Speaker 1>are hooking up. That was pretty cool. Yeah, it was,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the progressive as fuck movie. But we but

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<v Speaker 1>we needed to see that movie for us to realize, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>but when white people get a it's like, we should care.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a bad thing. Oh look how people are

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<v Speaker 1>treating them so poorly. Right, But that's okay because he

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<v Speaker 1>was like a big fancy lawyer. He was all the

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<v Speaker 1>story that white people sort of associate with like a

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<v Speaker 1>clean life, life without trials and tribulation. And here we

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<v Speaker 1>see Tom Hanks at sort of like his most successful

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<v Speaker 1>at least in movies and television that we've seen him

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<v Speaker 1>also being afflicted with this terrible disease. Absolutely, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is when they turned it around and they were like, oh, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it is happening to the black and latinos, but now

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<v Speaker 1>we should actually do something about it and care. And

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<v Speaker 1>see that's where they did it even more fund up

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<v Speaker 1>because Tom Hanks was smushing into Antonio Banderis in that

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<v Speaker 1>movie and they forced another Latin X person. Yes, associated

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<v Speaker 1>did with a disease that otherwise in this situation should

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<v Speaker 1>just be about the white maid. Yes, okay, I hear

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<v Speaker 1>I hear your tone and I'm on the record. I

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<v Speaker 1>I hear you on the record. I hear you, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but on the record. I'm like, I hear you on

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<v Speaker 1>the record, but off the record. Yes, okay, you zoned

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<v Speaker 1>in on the record. Let's just keep tracking this throughout.

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to keep telling me these feelings are

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<v Speaker 1>on the record or off the record throughout the whole

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<v Speaker 1>of the podcast. That way we know what you really

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<v Speaker 1>funk with. And what you have to present you funk

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<v Speaker 1>with so that you know these whites don't turn on you.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that your light skin, did uh man spleaning

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<v Speaker 1>my bit? I love it? Well, all right, let's make

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<v Speaker 1>it a gender issue too. I would like for you,

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<v Speaker 1>at any point to tell me when I have overstepped

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<v Speaker 1>my position and have turned this into another example of

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<v Speaker 1>the patriarchy. Yeah, feel free. I see you got your

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<v Speaker 1>little as podcast. Now you want to explain my jokes

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<v Speaker 1>lngs and I see what you're doing over there. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you explain them better yourself, I wouldn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>get up in here and do it a second time.

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<v Speaker 1>Not just facts anyway, that's funnier than Let me ask

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<v Speaker 1>you this, yes, because because I think what you're getting

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<v Speaker 1>into is very interesting. I'm bought in right, But let

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<v Speaker 1>me ask you this from home? Did you first hear

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<v Speaker 1>this conspiracy theory? Where do you think the source material

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<v Speaker 1>actually came from? For you? I do want to say

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<v Speaker 1>that it came from I won't say necessary my mother,

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<v Speaker 1>but like mother adjacent like I'm listening into conversations of

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<v Speaker 1>like grown folks that like Ramona, which is her first name,

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<v Speaker 1>Ramona Marie um y'all don't have to black that out.

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<v Speaker 1>She knows that, you know, she know what she knows.

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<v Speaker 1>But adults that have these conversations, um, when they think

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<v Speaker 1>that kids are not listening, they do talk about that

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<v Speaker 1>and how um I mean, I was born in Harlem

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<v Speaker 1>when the crack epidemic was at its highest, and so

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<v Speaker 1>not only did I know about the crack, but also

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<v Speaker 1>the AIDS. So UM, I constantly like getting older, like

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<v Speaker 1>not an adult, but just being a kid and knowing

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<v Speaker 1>like I moved to California because there were so much

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<v Speaker 1>drugs in my neighborhood and because of I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily AIDS, but mainly because of the drugs. They're like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you go and live in Oakland, California, you'll be

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<v Speaker 1>able to be a kid and having life. Well, that's

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<v Speaker 1>you're hitting on something really fascinating because even in them

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<v Speaker 1>talking about AIDS and them talking about sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>this very terrible disease, right, you're dealing with the second

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<v Speaker 1>type of framing. So you're dealing with the drug epidemic

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<v Speaker 1>that's happening in your community and that's the scary thing

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<v Speaker 1>that everybody's talking about, which means that AIDS sort of

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<v Speaker 1>finds itself at best in a number two positions where

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<v Speaker 1>it's not the most dangerous thing that's happening, when it

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<v Speaker 1>might have been an equally dangerous issue or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sort of pandemic that exists in your community. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard to talk about this because there could have

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<v Speaker 1>possibly been somebody in my family that was like gay

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<v Speaker 1>and when they when people did talk about AIDS, they

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<v Speaker 1>and also being gay, it's like they're both a bad thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not good, but also like being gay and having

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<v Speaker 1>AIDS is worse than drugs, right, right, Because like I

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<v Speaker 1>could have had one family member that was on crack

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<v Speaker 1>and then the other family was on with gay and

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, I'd rather you be crack because then we

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<v Speaker 1>can fix that. We can fix you can get off

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<v Speaker 1>of crack, but you can't get off the dick, and

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<v Speaker 1>you can't fix AIDS. This is all off the record,

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<v Speaker 1>and that what I said that was off that dick

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<v Speaker 1>is to a dick. We can't get you off that,

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<v Speaker 1>but but crack correct, we can send you somewhere and

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<v Speaker 1>we can clean you up. Goddamn that delicious dick. Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>being off the record, off the record, but dick is fantastic,

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<v Speaker 1>is apparently what we're here. Okay, So that's very interesting

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<v Speaker 1>because that means it's such a complicated layering of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that sort of UH we struggle with in black communities. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>is it's never a single issue. When white people are

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<v Speaker 1>being hit with like the opioid crisis right now, they're

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<v Speaker 1>able to treat it like a regular issue. We are

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<v Speaker 1>doing too many UH pills, and we need to stop

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<v Speaker 1>doing pills, and we will set up programs to stop

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<v Speaker 1>people from doing pills. Suddenly the crisis goes away. But

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<v Speaker 1>for black people, you're dealing with poverty, you're dealing with drugs,

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<v Speaker 1>you're dealing with violence, you're dealing with all these other racism, racism,

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<v Speaker 1>just general racism that probably lead to all the things

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<v Speaker 1>that were listed, right, And so you subsequently are never

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<v Speaker 1>able to just be free of the singular issues because

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<v Speaker 1>all of them are layered on top of each other. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>And then at first they were saying, like AIDS was

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<v Speaker 1>really prevalent in Africa. Was it the AIDS hit Africa

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<v Speaker 1>first and then it came to the United States, or

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<v Speaker 1>was it like it started in Africa but then blew

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<v Speaker 1>up in America. But then went back to Africa, like,

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<v Speaker 1>what was it? Was it on four? Was Aids on four?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to get this correct. Aids is on a

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<v Speaker 1>fifty city tour international and uh, it made it stops.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, like many artists that hit big in

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<v Speaker 1>certain cities towns, much like you know the Beatles or

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<v Speaker 1>your jay Z's if you will, then Aids was jay Z,

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<v Speaker 1>Aids and jay Z. That sounds similar. Uh. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you remember this. I definitely remember hearing it

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<v Speaker 1>as a kid, because I never knew where Aids came from.

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<v Speaker 1>The origin story that we used to always spread at

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<v Speaker 1>school was that somebody had sucked the monkey yep, in Africa,

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<v Speaker 1>in Africa and in all of the continent of Africa.

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<v Speaker 1>There was never any specificity or where in Africa, but

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<v Speaker 1>generally an African person fucked a monkey and then uh

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<v Speaker 1>created AIDS. And in fact, I don't did you hear

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<v Speaker 1>it was an African person? No, we just know that

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<v Speaker 1>it was a man a monkey, and Aids started. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I ink, as I'm thinking about in the reason I

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<v Speaker 1>asked that question, a part of me thinks maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>heard that it wasn't an African person, but that also

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<v Speaker 1>could have been that Chappelle bit that's very funny, like uh,

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<v Speaker 1>fucking chimp chim and he feels it like a banana. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>this is gonna be another off the record thing. But

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<v Speaker 1>if we're just like historically looking at the beige man,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they would be more likely to have sex

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<v Speaker 1>with a monkey than an African American, right, Uh, certainly

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<v Speaker 1>a black person. Yeah. I would assume the black people

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<v Speaker 1>that lived in the area where AIDS was first creative

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<v Speaker 1>or sort of at least transition, they had seen monkeys

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<v Speaker 1>before they were called monkeys, so then they well I

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<v Speaker 1>don't just I don't just see them like being in

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<v Speaker 1>Africa their cousin, Right, you don't. You don't see a

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<v Speaker 1>monkey every single day and be like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what it is today, but this one looks sexiest for right, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the person that goes there and it's like on

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<v Speaker 1>vacation and it's like, I want to try something different,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I want to put I want to put

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<v Speaker 1>crome rolls with little beads at the end, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I want to come on, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>That's what they do when they're on vacation, isn't I

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<v Speaker 1>it happens in the Bahamas all the time. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to get my hair braided, I want to buy weed

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<v Speaker 1>from a person who doesn't sell weed, don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>suck a monkey. Yeah, these are the normal vacation behaviors

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<v Speaker 1>that white people have participated in for generations. So I

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<v Speaker 1>let's agree it was a white person who fucked that monkey. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but in order for I mean, do you know the

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<v Speaker 1>numbers of how many people were actually killed from AIDS

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<v Speaker 1>during the epidemic? Uh? Not off hand? No? I what

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<v Speaker 1>this ain't a research podcast. Yeah, they said that you

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<v Speaker 1>were going to do the hardware, so I figured that

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<v Speaker 1>you will me with some statistics, some numbers, like I will.

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<v Speaker 1>But I saved that for the second act. You out

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<v Speaker 1>here asking for it just to be available to you,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, I think that's unfair. And if there's a

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<v Speaker 1>woman explaining, I think you're doing that, No such thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't you think you're doing the wrong thing. We give

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<v Speaker 1>you enough time to talk and explain. That's that's usually

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<v Speaker 1>what women do. I feel differently as a person that

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<v Speaker 1>lives with a woman. Uh. Currently, Oh it's different. You're married,

0:21:35.320 --> 0:21:38.600
<v Speaker 1>This is not she's helping you if anything? Okay, this

0:21:39.000 --> 0:21:42.760
<v Speaker 1>help that she's providing. So when I'm being picked at

0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:45.800
<v Speaker 1>and held captive for the choices that I'm making, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a person bettering me. Okay, I'm glad we cleared

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<v Speaker 1>that up because, uh, it feels like I'm in prison.

0:21:53.640 --> 0:21:57.360
<v Speaker 1>But I hear now that maybe jail is good for me,

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<v Speaker 1>that this is going to reform me. This is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>allow me to be a better person. On the record

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<v Speaker 1>or off the record. I'd say it's off the record,

0:22:05.480 --> 0:22:07.560
<v Speaker 1>but I lost track of what the rules are for

0:22:07.680 --> 0:22:10.959
<v Speaker 1>on the record and off the record because you weren't listening.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't listening. I was too busy, man, sweating, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've learned a lot today. Okay, We're gonna take a

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<v Speaker 1>break and then we're gonna be back with more Sydney

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<v Speaker 1>Washington and more. My mama told me, and we are

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm not gay, no more I am. We're back

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<v Speaker 1>here with more Sydney, Washington and more. My mama told me.

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<v Speaker 1>We're still talking about that that gruesome AIDS virus and

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<v Speaker 1>where it came from and the possibility that was all

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<v Speaker 1>started by a man who fucked a monkey, a white man,

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<v Speaker 1>a beige man. As Sydney calls them who had sex

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<v Speaker 1>with a monkey. I I don't know if that's true.

0:23:01.480 --> 0:23:05.040
<v Speaker 1>I think for after a while that got refuted pretty quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>I think white people didn't like that as a potential

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<v Speaker 1>uh spreader, you know what I mean, like as a

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<v Speaker 1>potential source of where this came from. But they also

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want us to know that it was hitting them

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<v Speaker 1>harder than what we were the information that we were

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<v Speaker 1>getting right, that this was for a while just exclusively

0:23:27.000 --> 0:23:30.040
<v Speaker 1>black and brown. Yeah, because then you go to the walks,

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<v Speaker 1>you should go to the AIDS walk and it's like

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<v Speaker 1>all these white people with quilts of their friends and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, your friends also look like you. So y'all

0:23:43.560 --> 0:23:45.840
<v Speaker 1>all were all at this and it's I'm talking about

0:23:45.920 --> 0:23:50.200
<v Speaker 1>thousands and thousands of people walking for AIDS. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying that black people don't walk, but we were

0:23:52.720 --> 0:23:56.359
<v Speaker 1>not at those walks like that. And that's that's where

0:23:56.359 --> 0:23:59.960
<v Speaker 1>it gets complicated, is were we not invited to those

0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:04.520
<v Speaker 1>walks or were we invited? And we just don't have

0:24:04.640 --> 0:24:08.680
<v Speaker 1>the numbers that y'all have for these walks. One way

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<v Speaker 1>or the other. Something uh, something tricky is happening here.

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<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah, So I did some research. I dug into

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<v Speaker 1>some research that I'm now ready to talk to you about,

0:24:20.680 --> 0:24:22.800
<v Speaker 1>not like before when you were just trying to throw

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<v Speaker 1>it at me. I'm ready to talk to you about

0:24:25.040 --> 0:24:27.840
<v Speaker 1>the research I found now, and what I would love

0:24:27.960 --> 0:24:30.040
<v Speaker 1>for you to do. What I'd love to happen is

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<v Speaker 1>I share some research and you give me your thoughts

0:24:32.440 --> 0:24:36.800
<v Speaker 1>on it. The interesting part of this research that really

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<v Speaker 1>starts off in a weird way is that they start

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<v Speaker 1>off by talking about every article I read at least

0:24:42.880 --> 0:24:48.359
<v Speaker 1>talks about AIDS in the African American community, which I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if that word bothers you or that term

0:24:50.560 --> 0:24:52.520
<v Speaker 1>bothers you as much as it does for me. But

0:24:52.600 --> 0:24:55.840
<v Speaker 1>I I typed in, like how does AIDS affect black people?

0:24:55.880 --> 0:24:59.800
<v Speaker 1>And then they're like, African Americans suffer from AIDS at

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<v Speaker 1>this number. And it's like that feels like a white

0:25:02.640 --> 0:25:06.479
<v Speaker 1>person came in and uh, fix this. Does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 1>But also it does sound problematic for them to just

0:25:09.200 --> 0:25:13.080
<v Speaker 1>call us black, the blacks black like it just you know,

0:25:13.359 --> 0:25:17.480
<v Speaker 1>it's uh, they say African Americans, so they don't sound

0:25:18.240 --> 0:25:21.640
<v Speaker 1>as racist as it comes off. They tongue. Oh see,

0:25:21.680 --> 0:25:24.640
<v Speaker 1>I take it. The opposite way, and that African American

0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:27.480
<v Speaker 1>feels like a long way for them to call me nigger.

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<v Speaker 1>Over take. This feels jarring in a way that I

0:25:30.480 --> 0:25:33.240
<v Speaker 1>don't care for. But I full agree to disagree about

0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:38.399
<v Speaker 1>this one. Okay, keep going, Keep going. So the first

0:25:38.560 --> 0:25:41.960
<v Speaker 1>real case of AIDS as we know it came in

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<v Speaker 1>June of right, but before then, there were plenty of

0:25:46.320 --> 0:25:51.159
<v Speaker 1>cases that probably were people dying or suffering from the

0:25:51.200 --> 0:25:54.240
<v Speaker 1>AIDS virus, but they didn't know it as such. They

0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:57.520
<v Speaker 1>were actually calling it like a super pneumonia and everybody

0:25:57.520 --> 0:26:00.600
<v Speaker 1>that's dying is like getting this super pneumonia or whenever

0:26:00.640 --> 0:26:03.280
<v Speaker 1>they were calling it back then, And it wasn't until

0:26:03.400 --> 0:26:06.600
<v Speaker 1>later that they discovered like, oh shit, this actually might

0:26:06.640 --> 0:26:10.040
<v Speaker 1>be its own disease and not just you know, somebody

0:26:10.080 --> 0:26:12.280
<v Speaker 1>with a bad cold kind of thing. When you think

0:26:12.320 --> 0:26:15.240
<v Speaker 1>about it, were just listening. It's like AIDS in Corona

0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:20.359
<v Speaker 1>is it's so close. There's a lot of crossover, and

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<v Speaker 1>it really all comes down to who's willing to wear

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<v Speaker 1>a mask, a penis mask or a mouth mask, you know,

0:26:27.040 --> 0:26:29.720
<v Speaker 1>and you see who's not wearing a mask, and you

0:26:29.760 --> 0:26:32.560
<v Speaker 1>see who's not wearing a mask, and who's having protests

0:26:32.560 --> 0:26:37.240
<v Speaker 1>outside about not wearing masks. Literally, entire white cities are

0:26:37.240 --> 0:26:40.360
<v Speaker 1>shutting down about not wearing masks Black people. If we're

0:26:40.359 --> 0:26:43.080
<v Speaker 1>not wearing masks, we kind of just do it privately. Yeah,

0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:45.359
<v Speaker 1>we ain't making a big funk about it. It's just like, no,

0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:47.959
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna wear it. I'm gonna hang out with whoever.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm comfortable with the record. I'm gonna say that's not

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<v Speaker 1>true because I've seen I don't know if I could

0:26:52.960 --> 0:26:55.600
<v Speaker 1>say this, but Nigga is on the Graham going live

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:59.600
<v Speaker 1>at at a club in Atlanta and had a mask on.

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<v Speaker 1>So I I just I just want to throw that

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<v Speaker 1>out there. I don't know if that was like, say,

0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:07.119
<v Speaker 1>but I just off the record, I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, I've seen a lot of people just I

0:27:10.119 --> 0:27:12.920
<v Speaker 1>was like, baby, where do you live Florida? Oh that's why.

0:27:13.080 --> 0:27:15.399
<v Speaker 1>That's why Florida is very prevalent with the with the

0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:18.840
<v Speaker 1>Corona because they just got hookah everywhere. Well, I would

0:27:18.840 --> 0:27:21.080
<v Speaker 1>say this, first of all, it's devastating to hear you

0:27:21.119 --> 0:27:25.800
<v Speaker 1>throw black people under number two. I hate that you

0:27:25.800 --> 0:27:30.880
<v Speaker 1>hate you need you need balance, you needed balance. I

0:27:30.960 --> 0:27:33.720
<v Speaker 1>hate that you hate black people. So much. But that's

0:27:34.320 --> 0:27:36.920
<v Speaker 1>the number two. What I will say is that I

0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:40.720
<v Speaker 1>totally agree that we are a hundred percent being irresponsible

0:27:41.280 --> 0:27:45.560
<v Speaker 1>in our behaviors with Corona. But I think the difference

0:27:45.640 --> 0:27:49.840
<v Speaker 1>is we ain't making this everybody's problem. This is just

0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:52.840
<v Speaker 1>some ship that we're gonna do. If you decide to

0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:55.639
<v Speaker 1>be a part of it, great, If you decide not

0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:57.080
<v Speaker 1>to be a part of it, go home, nig I'm

0:27:57.080 --> 0:27:58.600
<v Speaker 1>about to get some pussy, you know what I mean?

0:27:58.680 --> 0:28:02.280
<v Speaker 1>Like I ain't. I'm not been about like making this

0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:06.080
<v Speaker 1>some sort of like march on the streets about how

0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:09.200
<v Speaker 1>this is taking away my rights in part because black

0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:11.760
<v Speaker 1>people haven't had the right to be that free in

0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:15.000
<v Speaker 1>the first place. But I also want to say, in

0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:18.639
<v Speaker 1>terms of Corona, I can talk to so many people

0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:25.640
<v Speaker 1>who they know somebody who died of Corona Corona when

0:28:25.640 --> 0:28:31.919
<v Speaker 1>they were saying how the like AIDS epidemic was happening, Um,

0:28:32.160 --> 0:28:35.800
<v Speaker 1>I did not know that many people who were dying

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:40.760
<v Speaker 1>of AIDS. Sure, you were also five, so yes, they

0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:43.880
<v Speaker 1>probably wasn't telling me you're right, Yeah, it wasn't like

0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:45.880
<v Speaker 1>you were hanging out with kids at the playground who

0:28:45.880 --> 0:28:50.520
<v Speaker 1>were Yeah. But I mean the parents the way and

0:28:50.600 --> 0:28:54.440
<v Speaker 1>I grew up with like old old old black people,

0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:58.200
<v Speaker 1>like over six five, the way they talk, you were

0:28:58.200 --> 0:29:02.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna know, well, you know he died in that thing, right,

0:29:04.320 --> 0:29:08.560
<v Speaker 1>got him? What what? What was it? But when you

0:29:08.600 --> 0:29:16.400
<v Speaker 1>hear that language, you know later on Sylvester died of AIDS. Okay,

0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:22.720
<v Speaker 1>that's what it was. If they died of drugs, we

0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:26.000
<v Speaker 1>know that they will have no problem saying that they died.

0:29:26.280 --> 0:29:29.240
<v Speaker 1>They'll say the drug, they'll say that. But if it's

0:29:29.280 --> 0:29:33.040
<v Speaker 1>if it's that dangerous words of AIDS, now we're in

0:29:33.080 --> 0:29:37.040
<v Speaker 1>a different conversation. Well, it's fascinating you say that because

0:29:37.080 --> 0:29:39.120
<v Speaker 1>some of the research that I found, because there's a

0:29:39.120 --> 0:29:41.400
<v Speaker 1>bunch of studies that basically try to figure out where

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:45.560
<v Speaker 1>this conspiracy theory comes from. In a big response that

0:29:45.640 --> 0:29:51.360
<v Speaker 1>people are having about the misunderstandings around AIDS are certainly

0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:55.360
<v Speaker 1>like the conspiracies around AIDS are rooted in a distrust

0:29:55.400 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 1>of the government that black and brown people don't naturally

0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:02.880
<v Speaker 1>trust the govern a mint and therefore are not believing

0:30:03.000 --> 0:30:07.080
<v Speaker 1>the suggestions that the government makes about the best ways

0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:10.960
<v Speaker 1>of dealing with any pandemic. That like, just because y'all

0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 1>said it's the correct way of handling things doesn't mean

0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:17.720
<v Speaker 1>it actually is correct, because there's a history here of

0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:20.360
<v Speaker 1>y'all telling us stuff is correct and it not being

0:30:21.320 --> 0:30:25.120
<v Speaker 1>and so like there's a bunch of examples throughout history

0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:27.160
<v Speaker 1>of like the I tried to dig up things that

0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:29.960
<v Speaker 1>the government had done to black and brown people, and

0:30:30.160 --> 0:30:32.680
<v Speaker 1>one of the biggest things that sort of comes out is,

0:30:32.720 --> 0:30:37.160
<v Speaker 1>obviously you have your Tuskegee symphilis experiments where they did

0:30:37.160 --> 0:30:41.200
<v Speaker 1>all that awful ship by basically testing these syphilis uh

0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:44.320
<v Speaker 1>literally the fucking disease on black people and just letting

0:30:44.320 --> 0:30:47.960
<v Speaker 1>it kill them. But then, uh, you have all these

0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:52.160
<v Speaker 1>examples of sterilization in black and brown communities that like

0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:56.440
<v Speaker 1>either after pregnancy or during pregnancy or at the age

0:30:56.520 --> 0:31:00.160
<v Speaker 1>that they are even available to have kids, black and

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:04.920
<v Speaker 1>brown people being made sterile by their physician because they

0:31:04.960 --> 0:31:08.280
<v Speaker 1>are considered, you know, not ready to have a baby

0:31:08.360 --> 0:31:11.640
<v Speaker 1>for whatever reason. Yeah. So I mean, at the end

0:31:11.640 --> 0:31:15.680
<v Speaker 1>of the day, I can say that it is a

0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 1>conspiracy theory the the whole, like how AIDS was created

0:31:21.760 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 1>and who was it for. But the way things work,

0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:29.600
<v Speaker 1>it affects everybody. M hmm. Like it's not a racial thing.

0:31:30.120 --> 0:31:32.320
<v Speaker 1>It's not a racial thing. It only becomes a racial

0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:38.400
<v Speaker 1>thing if you're it's propaganda for me, Yes, exactly, That's

0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:40.960
<v Speaker 1>how they get you, because then now you're talking something

0:31:41.000 --> 0:31:45.520
<v Speaker 1>that I truly believe, I don't know a hundred that

0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:49.400
<v Speaker 1>AIDS was engineered in a lab by evil white man

0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 1>who then distributed it in the black community. I'm not

0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:54.720
<v Speaker 1>sure that I'm brought into that, But what I am

0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:58.560
<v Speaker 1>brought into is the very real possibility that they are

0:31:58.640 --> 0:32:03.040
<v Speaker 1>intentionally created being a mistrust, a distrust with the government

0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:06.360
<v Speaker 1>and black and brown people, so that they can continue

0:32:06.400 --> 0:32:10.880
<v Speaker 1>to grow AIDS or grow these negative diseases in our community.

0:32:11.200 --> 0:32:14.320
<v Speaker 1>That so long as we don't trust each other, there's

0:32:14.400 --> 0:32:18.480
<v Speaker 1>never going to be any real education around prevention and

0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:22.440
<v Speaker 1>health in these communities. Does that make sense? That makes sense?

0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:25.840
<v Speaker 1>That that definitely makes sense, because when like when we

0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:29.920
<v Speaker 1>had like the war on drugs, right, it was like, why, well,

0:32:29.920 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 1>why is there a looker store on every other corner,

0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:35.080
<v Speaker 1>or where are they getting the guns? And how are

0:32:35.120 --> 0:32:37.440
<v Speaker 1>they making the drugs? How are they getting the drugs?

0:32:37.800 --> 0:32:43.760
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, yeah, that I do believe that somebody

0:32:43.840 --> 0:32:47.280
<v Speaker 1>was pushing it in the communities. But then it's like,

0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:51.120
<v Speaker 1>if we think it's the man doing this, then how

0:32:51.120 --> 0:32:54.840
<v Speaker 1>do we stop it? M H. And then the propaganda

0:32:55.200 --> 0:32:58.000
<v Speaker 1>funs up your head and you you there's no solutions.

0:32:58.440 --> 0:33:02.040
<v Speaker 1>There's just us talking about what it could possibly be

0:33:02.120 --> 0:33:06.520
<v Speaker 1>and not fixing the issue exactly. And I would argue,

0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:09.840
<v Speaker 1>I think they like being the man. To your point,

0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:12.520
<v Speaker 1>I think that there's a part of the white community

0:33:12.560 --> 0:33:16.600
<v Speaker 1>that truly wants to remain the man in this situation

0:33:16.920 --> 0:33:19.680
<v Speaker 1>because it enables the power for them and then also

0:33:19.840 --> 0:33:24.000
<v Speaker 1>enables us to kill ourselves for their benefit. That like,

0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:26.880
<v Speaker 1>so long as the man exists, we can't actually fix

0:33:26.920 --> 0:33:29.680
<v Speaker 1>the problem. And if we can't fix the problem, like

0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:33.880
<v Speaker 1>you said, they get paid dollars of body for some reason. Yeah,

0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:36.240
<v Speaker 1>and if you're in if at the time, like oh,

0:33:36.680 --> 0:33:39.400
<v Speaker 1>AIDS is through sex, and it's like stopping us or

0:33:39.480 --> 0:33:43.000
<v Speaker 1>scaring us to have sex and we can't comfortably have

0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:46.240
<v Speaker 1>sex or we're having sex because oh, we're not supposed

0:33:46.280 --> 0:33:49.840
<v Speaker 1>to be having sex. So when they were having these

0:33:49.880 --> 0:33:53.040
<v Speaker 1>programs of sex education and making it like you should

0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:57.040
<v Speaker 1>be waiting to have sex, everybody is having sex because

0:33:57.040 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 1>you're telling us not to. And I'll go stop for

0:34:00.400 --> 0:34:02.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you feel, but the times I

0:34:02.160 --> 0:34:04.840
<v Speaker 1>want pussy the most is when somebody says you can't

0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:08.640
<v Speaker 1>have pussy. That's when I get the most excited about it. Well,

0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:14.319
<v Speaker 1>off the record, that sounds very man of you, UH.

0:34:14.760 --> 0:34:17.960
<v Speaker 1>As a woman. When I hear somebody doesn't want to

0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:19.759
<v Speaker 1>have sex, that's when I said it's time to go

0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:23.000
<v Speaker 1>to bed. Okay, Well, now you're making me sent an argument,

0:34:23.040 --> 0:34:25.960
<v Speaker 1>and I feel like a monster. I think I was

0:34:26.000 --> 0:34:29.560
<v Speaker 1>thinking more in terms of society, but you made this

0:34:29.680 --> 0:34:32.640
<v Speaker 1>specifically about consent, and I want to be clear for

0:34:32.760 --> 0:34:36.719
<v Speaker 1>my listeners that I'm not a rapist. I'm not a rapist.

0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:41.920
<v Speaker 1>That's not what this podcasts. Honey, you said it. It

0:34:42.040 --> 0:34:45.480
<v Speaker 1>came off yo tongue. We're gonna take another break and

0:34:45.480 --> 0:34:47.759
<v Speaker 1>we'll be back with more Sydney Washington and more. My

0:34:47.840 --> 0:35:06.800
<v Speaker 1>mama told me, damn we are. We're back here with Morris,

0:35:06.840 --> 0:35:10.520
<v Speaker 1>Sydney Washington more. My mama told me. We're still talking

0:35:10.560 --> 0:35:13.919
<v Speaker 1>about that pesky ade virus and where it comes from

0:35:13.920 --> 0:35:15.719
<v Speaker 1>and why white people want us to believe that it's

0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:19.920
<v Speaker 1>killing black and brown people. Do you still I feel

0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:23.640
<v Speaker 1>like your community is UH is having the same fights

0:35:23.680 --> 0:35:26.440
<v Speaker 1>that it was when you were a kid. Is Harlem

0:35:26.600 --> 0:35:29.320
<v Speaker 1>still sort of like in the midst of the same

0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:31.759
<v Speaker 1>sort of like battle that it was in when you

0:35:31.800 --> 0:35:35.960
<v Speaker 1>were a child. No, it's gentrified as fun. It's gentrified.

0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:38.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean when they put when they put the whole

0:35:38.000 --> 0:35:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Foods there, when they well, originally when they put the

0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:43.080
<v Speaker 1>red lobster there, I was like, oh, wow, they really

0:35:43.160 --> 0:35:45.919
<v Speaker 1>cleaned up the place. And then I realized Opionce made

0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:48.920
<v Speaker 1>that song and talked about the biscuits and you know

0:35:48.960 --> 0:35:51.239
<v Speaker 1>why white people know about it, and now that they

0:35:51.280 --> 0:35:53.920
<v Speaker 1>took red lobster from us, And then all of a

0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:57.120
<v Speaker 1>sudden there was like a gap in all these different stores.

0:35:57.120 --> 0:35:58.719
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, oh, if this is not for us,

0:35:58.760 --> 0:36:05.000
<v Speaker 1>they're cleaning up a street four the Alabasters. So no,

0:36:05.360 --> 0:36:09.080
<v Speaker 1>we don't. There's not as much crime and there's not

0:36:09.200 --> 0:36:12.080
<v Speaker 1>as much well they said the New York has I

0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:14.200
<v Speaker 1>love a crime right now. But that's because you know,

0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:16.040
<v Speaker 1>people weren't working for a long time, and you know

0:36:16.120 --> 0:36:19.239
<v Speaker 1>the cops. And but I will say that Harlem is

0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:22.719
<v Speaker 1>not Harlem anymore. I mean it is white people everywhere.

0:36:22.920 --> 0:36:27.439
<v Speaker 1>The culture is seeping out of our hands. Every year.

0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:30.720
<v Speaker 1>I stepped into I used to live in Harlem Um

0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:33.839
<v Speaker 1>like six years ago, and I lived in a brownstone

0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:37.800
<v Speaker 1>and everybody in the building was black. When I left,

0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:43.360
<v Speaker 1>everyone was white. My fault, Well, I will blame myself.

0:36:43.440 --> 0:36:45.840
<v Speaker 1>My roommate was right and took over my apartment and

0:36:45.880 --> 0:36:48.759
<v Speaker 1>then she invited another white person to live on the

0:36:48.880 --> 0:36:51.200
<v Speaker 1>on the second floor. It was my fault. I gentrified

0:36:51.239 --> 0:36:54.319
<v Speaker 1>my own building. But I'm just saying, oh man, you

0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:59.120
<v Speaker 1>introduced the seed. You were the virus that ate the

0:36:59.160 --> 0:37:04.520
<v Speaker 1>white blood else that that destroyed everything in that that community. Wow.

0:37:04.600 --> 0:37:07.759
<v Speaker 1>This is patient zero for gentrification that we're speaking to

0:37:07.960 --> 0:37:12.919
<v Speaker 1>this afternoon, and it's devastating. I am sorry, I am

0:37:14.880 --> 0:37:19.799
<v Speaker 1>I think we should make that the title. Sydney Washington

0:37:22.960 --> 0:37:25.799
<v Speaker 1>Hate you. I want to play a game with you.

0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:27.880
<v Speaker 1>And this is a very fun game that I like

0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:32.319
<v Speaker 1>to call ugly. You're disgusting, I'm gonna kill you. Give

0:37:32.320 --> 0:37:36.359
<v Speaker 1>me okay, white lies. It's a fun game where I

0:37:36.480 --> 0:37:40.320
<v Speaker 1>am going to introduce to you a conspiracy theory widely

0:37:40.400 --> 0:37:43.319
<v Speaker 1>held in the white community, and I would like for

0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:46.600
<v Speaker 1>you to unpack why you believe that white people care

0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:49.640
<v Speaker 1>about this conspiracy so much. What do you think this

0:37:49.800 --> 0:37:53.160
<v Speaker 1>offers to them. What are the sneaky motherfucker's up to?

0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:55.560
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying? All right, check it out.

0:37:56.200 --> 0:37:59.959
<v Speaker 1>Here's your conspiracy theory to unpack white people. For years,

0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:03.040
<v Speaker 1>you're familiar with the Chicago fire. For years, white people

0:38:03.160 --> 0:38:06.759
<v Speaker 1>have claimed that the Chicago fire was started by a

0:38:06.800 --> 0:38:11.880
<v Speaker 1>cow owned by Mrs O'Leary. Catherine O'Leary was started by

0:38:11.880 --> 0:38:15.120
<v Speaker 1>a cow kicking over an oil lantern and then that

0:38:15.200 --> 0:38:19.520
<v Speaker 1>oil lantern leading to these massive fires across like three

0:38:19.560 --> 0:38:23.760
<v Speaker 1>thousand acres of Chicago. Why do you think that white

0:38:23.800 --> 0:38:27.799
<v Speaker 1>people are so committed to this argument that Katherine O'Leary's

0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:31.040
<v Speaker 1>cow is the cause of the Chicago fire. Who's Catherine

0:38:31.080 --> 0:38:33.920
<v Speaker 1>O'Leary Just a lady who had a cow and they

0:38:34.040 --> 0:38:38.279
<v Speaker 1>just named anybody it was Katherine O'Leary, Catherine O'Leary. She

0:38:38.360 --> 0:38:41.160
<v Speaker 1>was a real lady. She wasn't it's a real lady.

0:38:41.239 --> 0:38:44.440
<v Speaker 1>But it just right there when you start off with

0:38:44.560 --> 0:38:50.360
<v Speaker 1>the name boom, I'm not. I'm don't believe you. Catherine

0:38:50.440 --> 0:38:54.719
<v Speaker 1>at a cow. It sounds like a fable. Okay, long

0:38:54.880 --> 0:38:57.480
<v Speaker 1>long time ago, Catherine o leary had a cow, and

0:38:57.520 --> 0:39:01.200
<v Speaker 1>the cow and the cow over the moon. Like, it's

0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:06.040
<v Speaker 1>just I mean, they're so they have to believe in

0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:11.640
<v Speaker 1>this because they don't want to be seen as terrible people. Okay,

0:39:11.680 --> 0:39:15.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm listening. I mean when you look at Rosewood, when

0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:19.319
<v Speaker 1>you look at the you know, Black Wall Street, when

0:39:19.920 --> 0:39:25.399
<v Speaker 1>like them tearing down our communities because of race, when

0:39:25.440 --> 0:39:28.680
<v Speaker 1>you hit them with those facts, are like, oh, that

0:39:29.040 --> 0:39:32.719
<v Speaker 1>shows them how trash they are. So if they so,

0:39:33.000 --> 0:39:36.000
<v Speaker 1>we can't really pinpoint how these fires started. If you

0:39:36.120 --> 0:39:40.040
<v Speaker 1>say something outrageous like this cow kicked over this thing

0:39:40.120 --> 0:39:42.960
<v Speaker 1>and the fire started, they won't. We can't say that, oh,

0:39:43.000 --> 0:39:47.640
<v Speaker 1>white people started this fire to tear down Chicago from

0:39:46.920 --> 0:39:49.640
<v Speaker 1>the black I mean, you're saying that there could have

0:39:49.680 --> 0:39:52.800
<v Speaker 1>been something more sinister happening here, and they tried to

0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:55.560
<v Speaker 1>cuting it up by being like, oh, it was a

0:39:55.560 --> 0:39:57.840
<v Speaker 1>cow that kicked over the lantern and not one of

0:39:57.960 --> 0:40:00.480
<v Speaker 1>us that did that. You know what makes even more

0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:03.879
<v Speaker 1>fascinating because I think at that time Chicago, at least

0:40:03.920 --> 0:40:06.000
<v Speaker 1>the sections that burned, or at least part of what burned,

0:40:06.120 --> 0:40:10.720
<v Speaker 1>was a predominantly white community. But here's what's fascinating. Katherine

0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:14.440
<v Speaker 1>O'Leary is an Irish name, and at the time that

0:40:14.480 --> 0:40:18.440
<v Speaker 1>this cow kicks over this lantern. Quote unquote Mrs O'Leary's cow.

0:40:18.680 --> 0:40:22.759
<v Speaker 1>The Irish were the niggas of the America's right that like,

0:40:23.200 --> 0:40:26.719
<v Speaker 1>they were the people that white people detested almost as

0:40:26.840 --> 0:40:29.759
<v Speaker 1>much as they detested us, not quite as much as

0:40:29.840 --> 0:40:34.200
<v Speaker 1>they never made them slaves. They yeah, they just yelled

0:40:34.200 --> 0:40:36.480
<v Speaker 1>at him a lot until they couldn't work at places.

0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:40.360
<v Speaker 1>But I think that a part of it was like, well, okay,

0:40:40.360 --> 0:40:42.399
<v Speaker 1>there were no black people around, so we'll just blame

0:40:42.440 --> 0:40:45.719
<v Speaker 1>it on this Irish lady in her stupid cow. Okay,

0:40:45.760 --> 0:40:48.479
<v Speaker 1>maybe you're right. I mean, I mean, I've never even

0:40:48.560 --> 0:40:53.640
<v Speaker 1>heard of that story until right now, So the story

0:40:53.760 --> 0:40:57.680
<v Speaker 1>dumb as hell. But yeah, it's not a good story now,

0:40:58.280 --> 0:41:01.279
<v Speaker 1>not for the one of the biggest wires in history

0:41:01.360 --> 0:41:05.239
<v Speaker 1>to burn down an entire city. I will tell you that,

0:41:05.440 --> 0:41:09.920
<v Speaker 1>like the smallest fire can turn into something big. I

0:41:10.000 --> 0:41:12.440
<v Speaker 1>know this because I burned my house down as a child,

0:41:12.840 --> 0:41:16.319
<v Speaker 1>and it was just a small like me lighting a

0:41:16.480 --> 0:41:19.840
<v Speaker 1>fake cigar that was plastic. It caught on fire and

0:41:19.960 --> 0:41:23.520
<v Speaker 1>melted into a bag of newspapers that I was so

0:41:23.640 --> 0:41:26.160
<v Speaker 1>unaware I did not know that these bags were there.

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<v Speaker 1>And then thirty minutes later, the whole front of the

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<v Speaker 1>house is just in flames. So yeah, I can't. I can't.

0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:38.680
<v Speaker 1>You burn it to the point that it was unlivable,

0:41:38.760 --> 0:41:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Like you could not live there. We couldn't live there.

0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:45.839
<v Speaker 1>We had to relocate um to our cousin's house and

0:41:45.880 --> 0:41:49.000
<v Speaker 1>stay there for almost a year. So you, you, in essence,

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<v Speaker 1>are Mrs O'Leary. You are this person who may or

0:41:52.560 --> 0:41:56.200
<v Speaker 1>may not be responsible for it, but that people were

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<v Speaker 1>going to place blame on no matter what. Yeah, what happened. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, honestly, I was like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>that the cow probably did it. Don't blame Catherine. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sucking cow. My bad. Well, here's the craziest part is

0:42:14.120 --> 0:42:17.239
<v Speaker 1>you said you let this play cigar. You put it

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<v Speaker 1>in a pile of newspapers. No, I didn't put it.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't do that. Don't get the story right. It melted

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<v Speaker 1>into a bag of newspapers. Okay, it was an accident.

0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:34.200
<v Speaker 1>It was It was an accident. Okay, you accidentally it

0:42:34.320 --> 0:42:38.480
<v Speaker 1>was an accident. May not have been associated with but

0:42:38.520 --> 0:42:41.560
<v Speaker 1>we'll we'll presume that you weren't. Let's just go there.

0:42:41.600 --> 0:42:45.799
<v Speaker 1>Allegedly that melted into this bag part of the way

0:42:45.840 --> 0:42:49.319
<v Speaker 1>that Chicago fire happened is because the entire city at

0:42:49.360 --> 0:42:51.480
<v Speaker 1>that point was made of wood, do you know what

0:42:51.560 --> 0:42:54.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean? Like was made of wood, much like your

0:42:54.640 --> 0:42:58.120
<v Speaker 1>newspaper in your bags and whatever. So it's it's this

0:42:58.200 --> 0:43:01.760
<v Speaker 1>dumb thing where it's like, well, yeah, if there's any fire,

0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:04.560
<v Speaker 1>this whole thing is gonna go up in flames, because

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<v Speaker 1>y'all ain't Why the funk would you make a whole

0:43:07.239 --> 0:43:10.280
<v Speaker 1>city out of wood? Who does that? Who has bags

0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:14.239
<v Speaker 1>of newspaper laying around that the home? You know? I

0:43:14.360 --> 0:43:19.480
<v Speaker 1>just think that it's um, it's time, it's time to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, be better with our fires and not blame people.

0:43:24.360 --> 0:43:27.960
<v Speaker 1>And it's not the cow's fault. It's not Catherine Leary's fault,

0:43:28.680 --> 0:43:30.319
<v Speaker 1>and we just need to it's not it's not a

0:43:30.320 --> 0:43:32.960
<v Speaker 1>white lie. I think it actually happened, and we need

0:43:33.000 --> 0:43:37.960
<v Speaker 1>to respect it did happen, but we need to not

0:43:38.160 --> 0:43:41.080
<v Speaker 1>blame them for it. Is what you're suggesting that we

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<v Speaker 1>should free Catherine or Leary from the obligation to the

0:43:44.080 --> 0:43:48.719
<v Speaker 1>feeling clear Catherine's name. She's a good lady and she

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<v Speaker 1>had a nice cow in that lantern. Wasn't her fault? Cows.

0:43:53.440 --> 0:43:57.600
<v Speaker 1>Not the smartest, not the smartest animal. Off the record,

0:43:57.719 --> 0:44:05.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm a cow. Okay, Well, I think that does it.

0:44:05.160 --> 0:44:07.520
<v Speaker 1>I think we've solved all the problems that we needed

0:44:07.560 --> 0:44:10.319
<v Speaker 1>to solve today. I think more than anything, we've learned

0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:12.840
<v Speaker 1>that it probably is engineered. And even if it isn't,

0:44:12.920 --> 0:44:17.080
<v Speaker 1>the intentional engineering of hatred and fear is part of

0:44:17.120 --> 0:44:20.200
<v Speaker 1>the way that you keep these diseases spreading and dangerous

0:44:20.239 --> 0:44:23.480
<v Speaker 1>in the black and brown communities. No wonder you're married,

0:44:23.520 --> 0:44:25.920
<v Speaker 1>you're you're a good man. We really appreciate all the

0:44:25.960 --> 0:44:29.880
<v Speaker 1>information you have in that. But five seven or five seven,

0:44:30.200 --> 0:44:35.560
<v Speaker 1>all right, now this is coming into how dare you

0:44:35.719 --> 0:44:39.600
<v Speaker 1>my license? My license, my driver's license at five eleven?

0:44:39.640 --> 0:44:42.160
<v Speaker 1>And I stand by that. I stand by it. I'm

0:44:42.200 --> 0:44:45.080
<v Speaker 1>a I'm a medium sized man, and I'll never let

0:44:45.120 --> 0:44:49.600
<v Speaker 1>you degrade you little me. All right, Sydney, tell the

0:44:49.600 --> 0:44:51.759
<v Speaker 1>people where they can find you. I'm done with you.

0:44:51.840 --> 0:44:54.359
<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, tell the people. I have a podcast called

0:44:54.360 --> 0:44:57.440
<v Speaker 1>The Unofficial Expert. It's on Friday's on Forever at All.

0:44:57.640 --> 0:44:59.680
<v Speaker 1>You can catch it up Spotify and all the places

0:44:59.680 --> 0:45:02.960
<v Speaker 1>that you were the podcast. Um. I also have a

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<v Speaker 1>show on Sundays on Instagram Live because that is our

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0:45:12.160 --> 0:45:15.400
<v Speaker 1>hashtag sid can cook. I can't cook, but I find

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0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:20.879
<v Speaker 1>they try to help me. And everybody loves watching it

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<v Speaker 1>and having terrible comments. It's great. And oh I'm on

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