1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: We left fear family. So yes, like, come on, talk 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: that talk Saidney, Come on, didn't you telling me Joe 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: Rogan isn't slightly responsible for the coronavirus? Are you saying 4 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: that on the record or this is on the record. 5 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,159 Speaker 1: That buff motherfucker has to have played a part in 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: the coronav If you're telling me that eating things that 7 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: we're not supposed to eat is how you get these diseases, 8 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: then I have to believe that Joe Rogan making a 9 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: bunch of white people eat madagascon cockroaches, he's going to 10 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: lead to a potential deadly disease. Also, he's mixing that 11 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: with muscle milk. He's telling people to eat cockroaches and 12 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: then drink it down with muscle milk. That's gonna create 13 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: something weird. Crock chips in your masqual mass are racist? 14 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: Posting money's term of stuff. I can't tell me. Oh, oh, 15 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: there it is. There it is. Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome 16 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: to another spectacular, devastating, oh stunning episode of My Mama 17 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: Told Me, the podcast where we dive deep into the 18 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: world of black conspiracy theories and we finally work to 19 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: prove that that little boy from Blackish is in fact 20 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: one of omar Rosa's horcrux's. Yes, he absolutely is a 21 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: part of her soul. Don't you dare try to be 22 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: fooled by all that dancing and that charming little smile. 23 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: That bastard is part of omar Rosa's spirit that she 24 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: cut off, and it's using to indoctrinate the black community. 25 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: I believe it, and I'll fight every day to prove it. 26 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Langston Kerman is always I'm coming in 27 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: hot today, baby, not only because it's a good day, 28 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: but hardly because I met my friend's house. I can't 29 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: record in my own home because I just found out that, 30 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: uh coax cables don't just come standard in homes. You know, 31 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: the cable that you plug your motem into. I don't 32 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: just show up everywhere. You gotta kind of earn that. 33 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: I guess you gotta get somebody to come in and 34 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: fix it for you. So I'm struggling. I'm using a 35 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: different man's WiFi, which that doesn't make you feel powerful 36 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: as a person. But here we are, and I'm enjoying it. 37 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: I'm excited because today we have a spectacular guest. I 38 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: bet she has three or four coax cables in her house. 39 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: She has that kind of power, that kind of resources, 40 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: that kind of sway in the industry. Her home is 41 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 1: filled with coax cables. She's amazing, She's hilarious. She maybe 42 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: is one of my biggest bullies on the internet. Uh. 43 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: You know her from her wonderful podcast called Unofficial Expert. 44 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: You know her from Comedy Central. You know her from 45 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: just being hilarious around town and on the internet. Oh 46 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: and Sid can Cook. Do not get about Sid can 47 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: cook every Sunday. You know her from all the things. 48 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: Give it up from my guest, Miss Sydney Washington. Hey, 49 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: are you know I'm just I'm so proud of you. 50 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: You got a podcast. This is great. I don't like 51 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: you call me a bully. All I do is uplift you. 52 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: I don't know that that's true at all. I think 53 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: I think you've been very unkind to me in a 54 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: multitude of space. All I say it's great. Thank I'm 55 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: so proud of you. I'm so bad. We're friends. Uh. 56 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: And if you ever if you ever need to borrow 57 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: some WiFi from me, let me know. Man. Okay, if 58 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: I ever need to borrow some WiFi. I just I'll 59 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: let you, and you'll you'll take care of that, take 60 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: care of me. I'll put it on my tap. Okay. 61 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: And if I'm understanding you correctly, you're not even on 62 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: your own WiFi right now? Am I understanding that correctly, 63 00:03:54,080 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: you're on someone else's WiFi since the WiFi, Yes, I'm visiting, 64 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: I'm I'm in l A. I'm usually in New York, 65 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: but I am in l A right now. And uh, 66 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: but I feel like this person's WiFi is also my WiFi. Sure, 67 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: this is an extended family of wife exactly, and naturally 68 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: you have no problem extending that family even further to me. 69 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: Should I be in absolutely family's family. It's a beautiful proverb. 70 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: And uh, it's one I like to go back to 71 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: every evening. And I'm glad that you're extending it to me. 72 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: I think you're ready for a commercial, right that was like, 73 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: that's like right on the nose with like a T 74 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: and T. Hey if one of those horrible companies and 75 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: they're attached to the prison labor want to call me 76 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: and asked me to say some nice things about their WiFi, 77 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: I'll happily do it. I don't care that y'all have slaves. 78 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: I will talk kindly about your WiFi, you know what 79 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: I mean? Maybe slavery is necessary for good WiFi. I 80 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: don't know. I'm not a learned man. I just know 81 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: they have slaves and they have fantastic WiFi. Love. Is 82 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: this a comparcy theory or a fact? Is this a 83 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: lengthen fact? Or is this you know for a fact 84 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: that they have slaves. I I know for a fact 85 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: that a number of those companies that you listed use 86 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: prison labor as part of their resourcing and are invested 87 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: in private prisons. Do you want to call that slavery? 88 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. How woke are you, Sydney? How comfortable 89 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: are you being on the other side of capitalism? I 90 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: mean we all have cell phones though, Like, I mean, 91 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: what plan are you on? Are you sending a messenger bird? Like? 92 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: Don't see all this ship about these companies but still 93 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 1: use it. Don't be hoped at Lengthen? Oh no, no, no, 94 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: I absolutely will be hoping and I absolutely will be 95 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: a complete walking contradiction. I am one hundred Listen. Let 96 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: you say this carefully and explicitly. I will happily continue 97 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: to use these products while simultaneously pointing out that they 98 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 1: have flawed mission statements and flawed misuses of their products. 99 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: Heard you, Okay, as long as we're being clear. But 100 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 1: I just feel like the energy that you pushing off 101 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: is I'm a bad person because I I low key 102 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: promoted them. And now, oh no, this isn't about you 103 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: at all. This is just me calling out the mean 104 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: man who I also will call Daddy later. You know 105 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: what I mean. I don't fight it. This is where 106 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: we're at. I'm excited today. You sent a conspiracy theory 107 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 1: that I think might be one of the most classic 108 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: in all of Black history. That like, if anybody were 109 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: to ask what is the most quid essential black conspiracy theory, 110 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: you nailed it. And you said, my mama told me 111 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: AIDS was created by the government to eliminate the blacks. 112 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: The black said, I didn't. I didn't put that in 113 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: the blacks, as I am a part of the blacks. 114 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: I didn't want to say the blacks like I'm not 115 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: a part of it. And we're all sure the blacks 116 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: was not you pushing away from from your people. It 117 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: was more of just the way that I assume the 118 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: government would refer Yes, that's exactly, that's fair. And now okay, 119 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: this is exciting because now we're getting into the classics, baby, 120 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: and and is this a classic that you subscribe to? Uh? Alright, 121 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:47,239 Speaker 1: so on the record, right, this is all on the record. 122 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: On the record, no, no, off the record is like, 123 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: you know, if they try to cut this podcast up, 124 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: and I'm like I said, off the record, so I 125 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: got you. You know, what they promoted as like AIDS 126 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: was getting the black and Latino community so hard, right, 127 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: but then when we do the marches and when we 128 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: do the like the movie Philadelphia, who had AIDS white people. 129 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: If it was just blacks and Latinos that were highly affected, 130 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: they wouldn't have been raising that much money. Uh So 131 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: that's what I really think. I think that they made 132 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: blacks the face of it, but overall it was really 133 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: wiping out the beige and the Caucasians and that's why 134 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: they were like, let's raise this money. I got you. Well, 135 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: as a Beige, I'm devastated to hear that my people 136 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: are being wiped out. But this is also okay, this 137 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: this is a fascinating take on the issue, right, because 138 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: what you're suggesting is that we are merely black people 139 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 1: are merely front facing, uh, for this issue. We're not. 140 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: It's not so much that we are experiencing it so 141 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: much more than everyone else, but that they want us 142 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: to believe that we're experiencing it more than everyone else 143 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: because they wanted to be a black and brown problem. 144 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 1: Is that what you mean, right? It's it's a it's 145 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: a scare tactic. It's saying, well, you guys are out here, 146 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: you're doing drugs the most, you're you're the most gay. 147 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: Because at first it was like, oh, well, only like 148 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: gay people were getting AIDS, and then they realized like, oh, 149 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: it's like blood transfusions, like anybody drugs. It's not just 150 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: the sexuality thing. Anybody can get it. So but if 151 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: they put that on the community, then it makes you 152 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: feel less inclined to actually be proud of who you are, like, oh, 153 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: well all my people are getting AIDS like that, well right, damn. 154 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: See that's the problem. They're not pitching aids. There's something tight. 155 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: They could be like AIDS is dope and everybody's getting it. 156 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: Look at you, the gays, the whites were all everybody's 157 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: enjoying some AIDS. But instead they made it a horrible 158 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: thing that only black and brown people were in. Gay 159 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: people were being attached to, right, I mean, and then 160 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: you watched the movie Philadelphia, and you just see so 161 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 1: many of the themes in the movie, like, oh, it 162 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: is about the gays, we are going to put it 163 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: on the gays. But then you see this white man 164 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: that you're like, oh, he is relatable, he is human. 165 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: Now we care and we have Denzel Washington is like, oh, 166 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: the strong black lawyer that you're like, oh, finally we 167 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: get to see him the way that we want to 168 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: see black people. But he's low key, like homophobic. Yeah 169 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,599 Speaker 1: I said low key, but it was hikey. It was 170 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: hikey low key about it, very very very loud. So 171 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: you remember in that movie Antonio Banderis and Tom Hanks 172 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: are hooking up. That was pretty cool. Yeah, it was, 173 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: I mean, the progressive as fuck movie. But we but 174 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: we needed to see that movie for us to realize, Oh, 175 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 1: but when white people get a it's like, we should care. 176 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: It's not a bad thing. Oh look how people are 177 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: treating them so poorly. Right, But that's okay because he 178 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 1: was like a big fancy lawyer. He was all the 179 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: story that white people sort of associate with like a 180 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: clean life, life without trials and tribulation. And here we 181 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: see Tom Hanks at sort of like his most successful 182 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: at least in movies and television that we've seen him 183 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: also being afflicted with this terrible disease. Absolutely, and that 184 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: is when they turned it around and they were like, oh, yes, 185 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: it is happening to the black and latinos, but now 186 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: we should actually do something about it and care. And 187 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: see that's where they did it even more fund up 188 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: because Tom Hanks was smushing into Antonio Banderis in that 189 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 1: movie and they forced another Latin X person. Yes, associated 190 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: did with a disease that otherwise in this situation should 191 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 1: just be about the white maid. Yes, okay, I hear 192 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: I hear your tone and I'm on the record. I 193 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:15,079 Speaker 1: I hear you on the record. I hear you, yes, 194 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: but on the record. I'm like, I hear you on 195 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: the record, but off the record. Yes, okay, you zoned 196 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: in on the record. Let's just keep tracking this throughout. 197 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 1: I want you to keep telling me these feelings are 198 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 1: on the record or off the record throughout the whole 199 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: of the podcast. That way we know what you really 200 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: funk with. And what you have to present you funk 201 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: with so that you know these whites don't turn on you. 202 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: I love that your light skin, did uh man spleaning 203 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: my bit? I love it? Well, all right, let's make 204 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: it a gender issue too. I would like for you, 205 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 1: at any point to tell me when I have overstepped 206 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: my position and have turned this into another example of 207 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: the patriarchy. Yeah, feel free. I see you got your 208 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: little as podcast. Now you want to explain my jokes 209 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: lngs and I see what you're doing over there. Well, 210 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: if you explain them better yourself, I wouldn't have to 211 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 1: get up in here and do it a second time. 212 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: Not just facts anyway, that's funnier than Let me ask 213 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 1: you this, yes, because because I think what you're getting 214 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: into is very interesting. I'm bought in right, But let 215 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: me ask you this from home? Did you first hear 216 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: this conspiracy theory? Where do you think the source material 217 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: actually came from? For you? I do want to say 218 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: that it came from I won't say necessary my mother, 219 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: but like mother adjacent like I'm listening into conversations of 220 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: like grown folks that like Ramona, which is her first name, 221 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: Ramona Marie um y'all don't have to black that out. 222 00:13:56,520 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: She knows that, you know, she know what she knows. 223 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: But adults that have these conversations, um, when they think 224 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: that kids are not listening, they do talk about that 225 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: and how um I mean, I was born in Harlem 226 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: when the crack epidemic was at its highest, and so 227 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: not only did I know about the crack, but also 228 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: the AIDS. So UM, I constantly like getting older, like 229 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: not an adult, but just being a kid and knowing 230 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: like I moved to California because there were so much 231 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: drugs in my neighborhood and because of I don't think 232 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: necessarily AIDS, but mainly because of the drugs. They're like, 233 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: if you go and live in Oakland, California, you'll be 234 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: able to be a kid and having life. Well, that's 235 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: you're hitting on something really fascinating because even in them 236 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: talking about AIDS and them talking about sort of like 237 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: this very terrible disease, right, you're dealing with the second 238 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: type of framing. So you're dealing with the drug epidemic 239 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: that's happening in your community and that's the scary thing 240 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: that everybody's talking about, which means that AIDS sort of 241 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: finds itself at best in a number two positions where 242 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: it's not the most dangerous thing that's happening, when it 243 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: might have been an equally dangerous issue or you know, 244 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: sort of pandemic that exists in your community. I mean, 245 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: it's hard to talk about this because there could have 246 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: possibly been somebody in my family that was like gay 247 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: and when they when people did talk about AIDS, they 248 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: and also being gay, it's like they're both a bad thing. 249 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: It's not good, but also like being gay and having 250 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: AIDS is worse than drugs, right, right, Because like I 251 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: could have had one family member that was on crack 252 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: and then the other family was on with gay and 253 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: they're like, I'd rather you be crack because then we 254 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: can fix that. We can fix you can get off 255 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: of crack, but you can't get off the dick, and 256 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: you can't fix AIDS. This is all off the record, 257 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: and that what I said that was off that dick 258 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: is to a dick. We can't get you off that, 259 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: but but crack correct, we can send you somewhere and 260 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: we can clean you up. Goddamn that delicious dick. Yeah, no, 261 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: being off the record, off the record, but dick is fantastic, 262 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: is apparently what we're here. Okay, So that's very interesting 263 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: because that means it's such a complicated layering of the 264 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: things that sort of UH we struggle with in black communities. Right, 265 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: is it's never a single issue. When white people are 266 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: being hit with like the opioid crisis right now, they're 267 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: able to treat it like a regular issue. We are 268 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: doing too many UH pills, and we need to stop 269 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: doing pills, and we will set up programs to stop 270 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: people from doing pills. Suddenly the crisis goes away. But 271 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: for black people, you're dealing with poverty, you're dealing with drugs, 272 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: you're dealing with violence, you're dealing with all these other racism, racism, 273 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: just general racism that probably lead to all the things 274 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: that were listed, right, And so you subsequently are never 275 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 1: able to just be free of the singular issues because 276 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: all of them are layered on top of each other. Right. 277 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: And then at first they were saying, like AIDS was 278 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: really prevalent in Africa. Was it the AIDS hit Africa 279 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 1: first and then it came to the United States, or 280 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: was it like it started in Africa but then blew 281 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: up in America. But then went back to Africa, like, 282 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: what was it? Was it on four? Was Aids on four? 283 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get this correct. Aids is on a 284 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: fifty city tour international and uh, it made it stops. 285 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 1: But you know, like many artists that hit big in 286 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 1: certain cities towns, much like you know the Beatles or 287 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: your jay Z's if you will, then Aids was jay Z, 288 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: Aids and jay Z. That sounds similar. Uh. I don't 289 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 1: know if you remember this. I definitely remember hearing it 290 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: as a kid, because I never knew where Aids came from. 291 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: The origin story that we used to always spread at 292 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: school was that somebody had sucked the monkey yep, in Africa, 293 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: in Africa and in all of the continent of Africa. 294 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: There was never any specificity or where in Africa, but 295 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 1: generally an African person fucked a monkey and then uh 296 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 1: created AIDS. And in fact, I don't did you hear 297 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: it was an African person? No, we just know that 298 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: it was a man a monkey, and Aids started. Yeah, 299 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 1: I ink, as I'm thinking about in the reason I 300 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: asked that question, a part of me thinks maybe I 301 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: heard that it wasn't an African person, but that also 302 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: could have been that Chappelle bit that's very funny, like uh, 303 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 1: fucking chimp chim and he feels it like a banana. Well, 304 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 1: this is gonna be another off the record thing. But 305 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 1: if we're just like historically looking at the beige man, 306 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: I think they would be more likely to have sex 307 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: with a monkey than an African American, right, Uh, certainly 308 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: a black person. Yeah. I would assume the black people 309 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: that lived in the area where AIDS was first creative 310 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: or sort of at least transition, they had seen monkeys 311 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: before they were called monkeys, so then they well I 312 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: don't just I don't just see them like being in 313 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: Africa their cousin, Right, you don't. You don't see a 314 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 1: monkey every single day and be like, I don't know 315 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: what it is today, but this one looks sexiest for right, Right, 316 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: it's the person that goes there and it's like on 317 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: vacation and it's like, I want to try something different, 318 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: and then I want to put I want to put 319 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,719 Speaker 1: crome rolls with little beads at the end, you know, 320 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: and then I want to come on, I want to 321 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: That's what they do when they're on vacation, isn't I 322 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: it happens in the Bahamas all the time. I want 323 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 1: to get my hair braided, I want to buy weed 324 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 1: from a person who doesn't sell weed, don't want to 325 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: suck a monkey. Yeah, these are the normal vacation behaviors 326 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: that white people have participated in for generations. So I 327 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: let's agree it was a white person who fucked that monkey. Yeah, 328 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: but in order for I mean, do you know the 329 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: numbers of how many people were actually killed from AIDS 330 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: during the epidemic? Uh? Not off hand? No? I what 331 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: this ain't a research podcast. Yeah, they said that you 332 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 1: were going to do the hardware, so I figured that 333 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: you will me with some statistics, some numbers, like I will. 334 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: But I saved that for the second act. You out 335 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: here asking for it just to be available to you, 336 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: and uh, I think that's unfair. And if there's a 337 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: woman explaining, I think you're doing that, No such thing. 338 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 1: Don't you think you're doing the wrong thing. We give 339 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: you enough time to talk and explain. That's that's usually 340 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: what women do. I feel differently as a person that 341 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: lives with a woman. Uh. Currently, Oh it's different. You're married, 342 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: This is not she's helping you if anything? Okay, this 343 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: help that she's providing. So when I'm being picked at 344 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: and held captive for the choices that I'm making, this 345 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: is a person bettering me. Okay, I'm glad we cleared 346 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: that up because, uh, it feels like I'm in prison. 347 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 1: But I hear now that maybe jail is good for me, 348 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: that this is going to reform me. This is gonna 349 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: allow me to be a better person. On the record 350 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 1: or off the record. I'd say it's off the record, 351 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: but I lost track of what the rules are for 352 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,959 Speaker 1: on the record and off the record because you weren't listening. 353 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: I wasn't listening. I was too busy, man, sweating, and 354 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: I've learned a lot today. Okay, We're gonna take a 355 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: break and then we're gonna be back with more Sydney 356 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: Washington and more. My mama told me, and we are 357 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: that I'm not gay, no more I am. We're back 358 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,199 Speaker 1: here with more Sydney, Washington and more. My mama told me. 359 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 1: We're still talking about that that gruesome AIDS virus and 360 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: where it came from and the possibility that was all 361 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: started by a man who fucked a monkey, a white man, 362 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: a beige man. As Sydney calls them who had sex 363 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: with a monkey. I I don't know if that's true. 364 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: I think for after a while that got refuted pretty quickly. 365 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: I think white people didn't like that as a potential 366 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: uh spreader, you know what I mean, like as a 367 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: potential source of where this came from. But they also 368 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: didn't want us to know that it was hitting them 369 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 1: harder than what we were the information that we were 370 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 1: getting right, that this was for a while just exclusively 371 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: black and brown. Yeah, because then you go to the walks, 372 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,479 Speaker 1: you should go to the AIDS walk and it's like 373 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: all these white people with quilts of their friends and 374 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: it's like, your friends also look like you. So y'all 375 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: all were all at this and it's I'm talking about 376 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: thousands and thousands of people walking for AIDS. And I'm 377 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: not saying that black people don't walk, but we were 378 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: not at those walks like that. And that's that's where 379 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: it gets complicated, is were we not invited to those 380 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: walks or were we invited? And we just don't have 381 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: the numbers that y'all have for these walks. One way 382 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: or the other. Something uh, something tricky is happening here. 383 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: Hell yeah, So I did some research. I dug into 384 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: some research that I'm now ready to talk to you about, 385 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: not like before when you were just trying to throw 386 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: it at me. I'm ready to talk to you about 387 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: the research I found now, and what I would love 388 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: for you to do. What I'd love to happen is 389 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: I share some research and you give me your thoughts 390 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: on it. The interesting part of this research that really 391 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: starts off in a weird way is that they start 392 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: off by talking about every article I read at least 393 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: talks about AIDS in the African American community, which I 394 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: don't know if that word bothers you or that term 395 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: bothers you as much as it does for me. But 396 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: I I typed in, like how does AIDS affect black people? 397 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: And then they're like, African Americans suffer from AIDS at 398 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: this number. And it's like that feels like a white 399 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,479 Speaker 1: person came in and uh, fix this. Does that make sense? 400 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 1: But also it does sound problematic for them to just 401 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: call us black, the blacks black like it just you know, 402 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: it's uh, they say African Americans, so they don't sound 403 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 1: as racist as it comes off. They tongue. Oh see, 404 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 1: I take it. The opposite way, and that African American 405 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: feels like a long way for them to call me nigger. 406 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: Over take. This feels jarring in a way that I 407 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: don't care for. But I full agree to disagree about 408 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: this one. Okay, keep going, Keep going. So the first 409 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: real case of AIDS as we know it came in 410 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: June of right, but before then, there were plenty of 411 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 1: cases that probably were people dying or suffering from the 412 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: AIDS virus, but they didn't know it as such. They 413 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: were actually calling it like a super pneumonia and everybody 414 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: that's dying is like getting this super pneumonia or whenever 415 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: they were calling it back then, And it wasn't until 416 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: later that they discovered like, oh shit, this actually might 417 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: be its own disease and not just you know, somebody 418 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: with a bad cold kind of thing. When you think 419 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: about it, were just listening. It's like AIDS in Corona 420 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: is it's so close. There's a lot of crossover, and 421 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: it really all comes down to who's willing to wear 422 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,719 Speaker 1: a mask, a penis mask or a mouth mask, you know, 423 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: and you see who's not wearing a mask, and you 424 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: see who's not wearing a mask, and who's having protests 425 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: outside about not wearing masks. Literally, entire white cities are 426 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 1: shutting down about not wearing masks Black people. If we're 427 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: not wearing masks, we kind of just do it privately. Yeah, 428 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: we ain't making a big funk about it. It's just like, no, 429 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,959 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna wear it. I'm gonna hang out with whoever. 430 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: I'm comfortable with the record. I'm gonna say that's not 431 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: true because I've seen I don't know if I could 432 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: say this, but Nigga is on the Graham going live 433 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: at at a club in Atlanta and had a mask on. 434 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: So I I just I just want to throw that 435 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: out there. I don't know if that was like, say, 436 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: but I just off the record, I was like, I 437 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: don't know, I've seen a lot of people just I 438 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 1: was like, baby, where do you live Florida? Oh that's why. 439 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 1: That's why Florida is very prevalent with the with the 440 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: Corona because they just got hookah everywhere. Well, I would 441 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: say this, first of all, it's devastating to hear you 442 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: throw black people under number two. I hate that you 443 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 1: hate you need you need balance, you needed balance. I 444 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: hate that you hate black people. So much. But that's 445 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: the number two. What I will say is that I 446 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: totally agree that we are a hundred percent being irresponsible 447 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: in our behaviors with Corona. But I think the difference 448 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: is we ain't making this everybody's problem. This is just 449 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: some ship that we're gonna do. If you decide to 450 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 1: be a part of it, great, If you decide not 451 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: to be a part of it, go home, nig I'm 452 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: about to get some pussy, you know what I mean? 453 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: Like I ain't. I'm not been about like making this 454 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: some sort of like march on the streets about how 455 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: this is taking away my rights in part because black 456 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: people haven't had the right to be that free in 457 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: the first place. But I also want to say, in 458 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 1: terms of Corona, I can talk to so many people 459 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 1: who they know somebody who died of Corona Corona when 460 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 1: they were saying how the like AIDS epidemic was happening, Um, 461 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: I did not know that many people who were dying 462 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: of AIDS. Sure, you were also five, so yes, they 463 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: probably wasn't telling me you're right, Yeah, it wasn't like 464 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: you were hanging out with kids at the playground who 465 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: were Yeah. But I mean the parents the way and 466 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: I grew up with like old old old black people, 467 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: like over six five, the way they talk, you were 468 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: gonna know, well, you know he died in that thing, right, 469 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: got him? What what? What was it? But when you 470 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: hear that language, you know later on Sylvester died of AIDS. Okay, 471 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: that's what it was. If they died of drugs, we 472 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: know that they will have no problem saying that they died. 473 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: They'll say the drug, they'll say that. But if it's 474 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: if it's that dangerous words of AIDS, now we're in 475 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: a different conversation. Well, it's fascinating you say that because 476 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: some of the research that I found, because there's a 477 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: bunch of studies that basically try to figure out where 478 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: this conspiracy theory comes from. In a big response that 479 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: people are having about the misunderstandings around AIDS are certainly 480 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: like the conspiracies around AIDS are rooted in a distrust 481 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: of the government that black and brown people don't naturally 482 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: trust the govern a mint and therefore are not believing 483 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: the suggestions that the government makes about the best ways 484 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: of dealing with any pandemic. That like, just because y'all 485 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: said it's the correct way of handling things doesn't mean 486 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: it actually is correct, because there's a history here of 487 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: y'all telling us stuff is correct and it not being 488 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: and so like there's a bunch of examples throughout history 489 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: of like the I tried to dig up things that 490 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: the government had done to black and brown people, and 491 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: one of the biggest things that sort of comes out is, 492 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: obviously you have your Tuskegee symphilis experiments where they did 493 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: all that awful ship by basically testing these syphilis uh 494 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: literally the fucking disease on black people and just letting 495 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 1: it kill them. But then, uh, you have all these 496 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: examples of sterilization in black and brown communities that like 497 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: either after pregnancy or during pregnancy or at the age 498 00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: that they are even available to have kids, black and 499 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: brown people being made sterile by their physician because they 500 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: are considered, you know, not ready to have a baby 501 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: for whatever reason. Yeah. So I mean, at the end 502 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: of the day, I can say that it is a 503 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: conspiracy theory the the whole, like how AIDS was created 504 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: and who was it for. But the way things work, 505 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: it affects everybody. M hmm. Like it's not a racial thing. 506 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: It's not a racial thing. It only becomes a racial 507 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: thing if you're it's propaganda for me, Yes, exactly, That's 508 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: how they get you, because then now you're talking something 509 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: that I truly believe, I don't know a hundred that 510 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: AIDS was engineered in a lab by evil white man 511 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: who then distributed it in the black community. I'm not 512 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: sure that I'm brought into that, But what I am 513 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: brought into is the very real possibility that they are 514 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: intentionally created being a mistrust, a distrust with the government 515 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: and black and brown people, so that they can continue 516 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: to grow AIDS or grow these negative diseases in our community. 517 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: That so long as we don't trust each other, there's 518 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: never going to be any real education around prevention and 519 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: health in these communities. Does that make sense? That makes sense? 520 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: That that definitely makes sense, because when like when we 521 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: had like the war on drugs, right, it was like, why, well, 522 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: why is there a looker store on every other corner, 523 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: or where are they getting the guns? And how are 524 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: they making the drugs? How are they getting the drugs? 525 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: And it's like, yeah, that I do believe that somebody 526 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: was pushing it in the communities. But then it's like, 527 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: if we think it's the man doing this, then how 528 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: do we stop it? M H. And then the propaganda 529 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: funs up your head and you you there's no solutions. 530 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: There's just us talking about what it could possibly be 531 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: and not fixing the issue exactly. And I would argue, 532 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: I think they like being the man. To your point, 533 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: I think that there's a part of the white community 534 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: that truly wants to remain the man in this situation 535 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: because it enables the power for them and then also 536 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: enables us to kill ourselves for their benefit. That like, 537 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: so long as the man exists, we can't actually fix 538 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: the problem. And if we can't fix the problem, like 539 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: you said, they get paid dollars of body for some reason. Yeah, 540 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: and if you're in if at the time, like oh, 541 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: AIDS is through sex, and it's like stopping us or 542 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: scaring us to have sex and we can't comfortably have 543 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: sex or we're having sex because oh, we're not supposed 544 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: to be having sex. So when they were having these 545 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: programs of sex education and making it like you should 546 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: be waiting to have sex, everybody is having sex because 547 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: you're telling us not to. And I'll go stop for 548 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: I don't know how you feel, but the times I 549 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: want pussy the most is when somebody says you can't 550 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: have pussy. That's when I get the most excited about it. Well, 551 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 1: off the record, that sounds very man of you, UH. 552 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: As a woman. When I hear somebody doesn't want to 553 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: have sex, that's when I said it's time to go 554 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: to bed. Okay, Well, now you're making me sent an argument, 555 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: and I feel like a monster. I think I was 556 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: thinking more in terms of society, but you made this 557 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: specifically about consent, and I want to be clear for 558 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: my listeners that I'm not a rapist. I'm not a rapist. 559 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 1: That's not what this podcasts. Honey, you said it. It 560 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: came off yo tongue. We're gonna take another break and 561 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: we'll be back with more Sydney Washington and more. My 562 00:34:47,840 --> 00:35:06,800 Speaker 1: mama told me, damn we are. We're back here with Morris, 563 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: Sydney Washington more. My mama told me. We're still talking 564 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,919 Speaker 1: about that pesky ade virus and where it comes from 565 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: and why white people want us to believe that it's 566 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: killing black and brown people. Do you still I feel 567 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: like your community is UH is having the same fights 568 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 1: that it was when you were a kid. Is Harlem 569 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,320 Speaker 1: still sort of like in the midst of the same 570 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 1: sort of like battle that it was in when you 571 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: were a child. No, it's gentrified as fun. It's gentrified. 572 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: I mean when they put when they put the whole 573 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: Foods there, when they well, originally when they put the 574 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 1: red lobster there, I was like, oh, wow, they really 575 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,919 Speaker 1: cleaned up the place. And then I realized Opionce made 576 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: that song and talked about the biscuits and you know 577 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 1: why white people know about it, and now that they 578 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 1: took red lobster from us, And then all of a 579 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: sudden there was like a gap in all these different stores. 580 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 1: And he's like, oh, if this is not for us, 581 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: they're cleaning up a street four the Alabasters. So no, 582 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: we don't. There's not as much crime and there's not 583 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: as much well they said the New York has I 584 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: love a crime right now. But that's because you know, 585 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: people weren't working for a long time, and you know 586 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 1: the cops. And but I will say that Harlem is 587 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 1: not Harlem anymore. I mean it is white people everywhere. 588 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:27,439 Speaker 1: The culture is seeping out of our hands. Every year. 589 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,720 Speaker 1: I stepped into I used to live in Harlem Um 590 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 1: like six years ago, and I lived in a brownstone 591 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 1: and everybody in the building was black. When I left, 592 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 1: everyone was white. My fault, Well, I will blame myself. 593 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 1: My roommate was right and took over my apartment and 594 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: then she invited another white person to live on the 595 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: on the second floor. It was my fault. I gentrified 596 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 1: my own building. But I'm just saying, oh man, you 597 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: introduced the seed. You were the virus that ate the 598 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: white blood else that that destroyed everything in that that community. Wow. 599 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 1: This is patient zero for gentrification that we're speaking to 600 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:12,919 Speaker 1: this afternoon, and it's devastating. I am sorry, I am 601 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 1: I think we should make that the title. Sydney Washington 602 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 1: Hate you. I want to play a game with you. 603 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 1: And this is a very fun game that I like 604 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 1: to call ugly. You're disgusting, I'm gonna kill you. Give 605 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:36,359 Speaker 1: me okay, white lies. It's a fun game where I 606 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,320 Speaker 1: am going to introduce to you a conspiracy theory widely 607 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 1: held in the white community, and I would like for 608 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 1: you to unpack why you believe that white people care 609 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 1: about this conspiracy so much. What do you think this 610 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: offers to them. What are the sneaky motherfucker's up to? 611 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? All right, check it out. 612 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,959 Speaker 1: Here's your conspiracy theory to unpack white people. For years, 613 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: you're familiar with the Chicago fire. For years, white people 614 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 1: have claimed that the Chicago fire was started by a 615 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 1: cow owned by Mrs O'Leary. Catherine O'Leary was started by 616 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: a cow kicking over an oil lantern and then that 617 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: oil lantern leading to these massive fires across like three 618 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,760 Speaker 1: thousand acres of Chicago. Why do you think that white 619 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,799 Speaker 1: people are so committed to this argument that Katherine O'Leary's 620 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 1: cow is the cause of the Chicago fire. Who's Catherine 621 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 1: O'Leary Just a lady who had a cow and they 622 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 1: just named anybody it was Katherine O'Leary, Catherine O'Leary. She 623 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: was a real lady. She wasn't it's a real lady. 624 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 1: But it just right there when you start off with 625 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:50,360 Speaker 1: the name boom, I'm not. I'm don't believe you. Catherine 626 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 1: at a cow. It sounds like a fable. Okay, long 627 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 1: long time ago, Catherine o leary had a cow, and 628 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: the cow and the cow over the moon. Like, it's 629 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: just I mean, they're so they have to believe in 630 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: this because they don't want to be seen as terrible people. Okay, 631 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:15,359 Speaker 1: I'm listening. I mean when you look at Rosewood, when 632 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 1: you look at the you know, Black Wall Street, when 633 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:25,399 Speaker 1: like them tearing down our communities because of race, when 634 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 1: you hit them with those facts, are like, oh, that 635 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 1: shows them how trash they are. So if they so, 636 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 1: we can't really pinpoint how these fires started. If you 637 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: say something outrageous like this cow kicked over this thing 638 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 1: and the fire started, they won't. We can't say that, oh, 639 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 1: white people started this fire to tear down Chicago from 640 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 1: the black I mean, you're saying that there could have 641 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,800 Speaker 1: been something more sinister happening here, and they tried to 642 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: cuting it up by being like, oh, it was a 643 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 1: cow that kicked over the lantern and not one of 644 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: us that did that. You know what makes even more 645 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,879 Speaker 1: fascinating because I think at that time Chicago, at least 646 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: the sections that burned, or at least part of what burned, 647 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:10,720 Speaker 1: was a predominantly white community. But here's what's fascinating. Katherine 648 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,440 Speaker 1: O'Leary is an Irish name, and at the time that 649 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 1: this cow kicks over this lantern. Quote unquote Mrs O'Leary's cow. 650 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 1: The Irish were the niggas of the America's right that like, 651 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 1: they were the people that white people detested almost as 652 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 1: much as they detested us, not quite as much as 653 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 1: they never made them slaves. They yeah, they just yelled 654 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 1: at him a lot until they couldn't work at places. 655 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 1: But I think that a part of it was like, well, okay, 656 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,399 Speaker 1: there were no black people around, so we'll just blame 657 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 1: it on this Irish lady in her stupid cow. Okay, 658 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,479 Speaker 1: maybe you're right. I mean, I mean, I've never even 659 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: heard of that story until right now, So the story 660 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 1: dumb as hell. But yeah, it's not a good story now, 661 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,279 Speaker 1: not for the one of the biggest wires in history 662 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 1: to burn down an entire city. I will tell you that, 663 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 1: like the smallest fire can turn into something big. I 664 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,440 Speaker 1: know this because I burned my house down as a child, 665 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 1: and it was just a small like me lighting a 666 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 1: fake cigar that was plastic. It caught on fire and 667 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 1: melted into a bag of newspapers that I was so 668 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 1: unaware I did not know that these bags were there. 669 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 1: And then thirty minutes later, the whole front of the 670 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:36,280 Speaker 1: house is just in flames. So yeah, I can't. I can't. 671 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 1: You burn it to the point that it was unlivable, 672 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 1: Like you could not live there. We couldn't live there. 673 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:45,839 Speaker 1: We had to relocate um to our cousin's house and 674 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 1: stay there for almost a year. So you, you, in essence, 675 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 1: are Mrs O'Leary. You are this person who may or 676 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 1: may not be responsible for it, but that people were 677 00:41:56,239 --> 00:42:00,359 Speaker 1: going to place blame on no matter what. Yeah, what happened. Yeah, 678 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,359 Speaker 1: So I'm like, honestly, I was like, you know what, 679 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 1: that the cow probably did it. Don't blame Catherine. I'm 680 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:13,880 Speaker 1: sucking cow. My bad. Well, here's the craziest part is 681 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,239 Speaker 1: you said you let this play cigar. You put it 682 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 1: in a pile of newspapers. No, I didn't put it. 683 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 1: Don't do that. Don't get the story right. It melted 684 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 1: into a bag of newspapers. Okay, it was an accident. 685 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: It was It was an accident. Okay, you accidentally it 686 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 1: was an accident. May not have been associated with but 687 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 1: we'll we'll presume that you weren't. Let's just go there. 688 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:45,799 Speaker 1: Allegedly that melted into this bag part of the way 689 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 1: that Chicago fire happened is because the entire city at 690 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 1: that point was made of wood, do you know what 691 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 1: I mean? Like was made of wood, much like your 692 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: newspaper in your bags and whatever. So it's it's this 693 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,760 Speaker 1: dumb thing where it's like, well, yeah, if there's any fire, 694 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 1: this whole thing is gonna go up in flames, because 695 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 1: y'all ain't Why the funk would you make a whole 696 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,280 Speaker 1: city out of wood? Who does that? Who has bags 697 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 1: of newspaper laying around that the home? You know? I 698 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 1: just think that it's um, it's time, it's time to 699 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 1: you know, be better with our fires and not blame people. 700 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 1: And it's not the cow's fault. It's not Catherine Leary's fault, 701 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,319 Speaker 1: and we just need to it's not it's not a 702 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 1: white lie. I think it actually happened, and we need 703 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 1: to respect it did happen, but we need to not 704 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 1: blame them for it. Is what you're suggesting that we 705 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 1: should free Catherine or Leary from the obligation to the 706 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 1: feeling clear Catherine's name. She's a good lady and she 707 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 1: had a nice cow in that lantern. Wasn't her fault? Cows. 708 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 1: Not the smartest, not the smartest animal. Off the record, 709 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 1: I'm a cow. Okay, Well, I think that does it. 710 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 1: I think we've solved all the problems that we needed 711 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,319 Speaker 1: to solve today. I think more than anything, we've learned 712 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,840 Speaker 1: that it probably is engineered. And even if it isn't, 713 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 1: the intentional engineering of hatred and fear is part of 714 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: the way that you keep these diseases spreading and dangerous 715 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 1: in the black and brown communities. No wonder you're married, 716 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,920 Speaker 1: you're you're a good man. We really appreciate all the 717 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,880 Speaker 1: information you have in that. But five seven or five seven, 718 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:35,560 Speaker 1: all right, now this is coming into how dare you 719 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:39,600 Speaker 1: my license? My license, my driver's license at five eleven? 720 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 1: And I stand by that. I stand by it. I'm 721 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 1: a I'm a medium sized man, and I'll never let 722 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 1: you degrade you little me. All right, Sydney, tell the 723 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,759 Speaker 1: people where they can find you. I'm done with you. 724 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,359 Speaker 1: Go ahead, tell the people. I have a podcast called 725 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,440 Speaker 1: The Unofficial Expert. It's on Friday's on Forever at All. 726 00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 1: You can catch it up Spotify and all the places 727 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 1: that you were the podcast. Um. I also have a 728 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 1: show on Sundays on Instagram Live because that is our 729 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:11,879 Speaker 1: lives now. It's it's at seven pm Eastern time. It's 730 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 1: hashtag sid can cook. I can't cook, but I find 731 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 1: ways to cook in front of my terrible friends and 732 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,879 Speaker 1: they try to help me. And everybody loves watching it 733 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 1: and having terrible comments. It's great. And oh I'm on 734 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,320 Speaker 1: Instagram as just said, b W j U S T 735 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,480 Speaker 1: s y D b W and and send me comments 736 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,479 Speaker 1: and d ms because it helps my ego. Than yes, 737 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 1: please send her d m unsolicited d MS for Sydney Washington. 738 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,719 Speaker 1: She loves them. She can't get enough of them. I can't. 739 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,480 Speaker 1: As always, you can follow me at Langston Kerman on 740 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 1: Instagram and Twitter. 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