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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Greetings, Welcome inside our two of The Dan

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Speaker 1: Patrick Show. Jason Smith and my best friend Mike Harmon

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Speaker 1: in for Dan and the Dan Nets. Today we got

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Speaker 1: Jason Cole Pro Football Hall of Fame, sorry, Pro Football

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Speaker 1: Hall of very very good pull a very good voter

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Speaker 1: joining us coming up in twenty minutes. Maybe he think,

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Speaker 1: maybe you know what, He's a perfect guy to talk

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Speaker 1: to you because since he is a Hall of Fame voter,

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Speaker 1: he can tell us if Derek Carr can be a

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Speaker 1: first ballot Hall of Famer with the Jets, like the

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Speaker 1: Jets told him in their visit this weekend. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think his criterion might even be harder and more harsh

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Speaker 1: than yours. I just win a couple of super Bowls. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's all. It seems like an easy path. The obvious

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Speaker 1: answer to that is plunk in. I know it's a

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Speaker 1: different time space and everything else and how we value

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Speaker 1: and love our quarterback play, but man, I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: it is that is one of the greatest yarns. You

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Speaker 1: thought we were gonna have nothing this week of the offseason.

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Speaker 1: I had super bowls in the rearview everybody's on vacation

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Speaker 1: in the league. Not so fast, mold beers, say the Jets.

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Speaker 1: So we got that coming up in a bit. But

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Speaker 1: before we get to Aaron Rodgers, you've probably heard the

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Speaker 1: update from Nick Cope right there a few seconds ago.

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Speaker 1: This was late breaking news last night regarding Brock Purdy.

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Speaker 1: He was supposed to have surgery today for his torn

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Speaker 1: ucl and then he would go through the offseason, it

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Speaker 1: would be repaired, he would come back, and the Niners

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Speaker 1: would have to figure out their quarterback situation. Well, now

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Speaker 1: it's been delayed because the swelling in his arm has

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Speaker 1: not gone down enough to have surgery. So they're going

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Speaker 1: to reconvene sometime in early March and figure out if

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Speaker 1: they can schedule the surgery then. So now we're pushing

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Speaker 1: it ahead maybe at least another maybe another month until

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Speaker 1: he can have surgery. This means, in a best case scenario,

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Speaker 1: he is back on the football field throwing a football

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Speaker 1: at the end of August, and who knows what kind

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Speaker 1: of condition his arm is going to be in. Will

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Speaker 1: it be a quick ramp up and he's good. Is

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Speaker 1: it going to be a slow ramp up? This means

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Speaker 1: that Trey Lance is a starting quarterback for the forty

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Speaker 1: nine ers beginning of the season. That nothing is happening

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Speaker 1: to stop that from occurring. Yes, he's coming back from

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Speaker 1: an injury as well, but he's going to be cleared

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Speaker 1: for OTAs he would get. He'll get all the reps

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Speaker 1: over the course of the off season, and the Niners

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Speaker 1: need to see him play. They need to or they

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Speaker 1: need to give him at least another preseason in regular

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Speaker 1: season of seeing what he has because look, they still

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Speaker 1: haven't seen a lot of the guy's gonna go for

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Speaker 1: People are gonna go to college and graduate without seeing

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Speaker 1: Trey Lance play more than a handful of snaps in

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Speaker 1: the National Football League, so they know they need to

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Speaker 1: see him play. This makes that a reality, and he's

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Speaker 1: going to be the number one guy. The Niners will

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Speaker 1: on the field for a bit. But that's how it's

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Speaker 1: gonna go, and Lance will be the quarterback and he'll start,

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Speaker 1: and there will be a really short leash because the

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Speaker 1: memory of what Brock Purdy did this season is too

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Speaker 1: fresh and maybe he's the next Brady and the desire

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Speaker 1: to see him back on the field will overwhelm things.

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Speaker 1: So the good news for Trey Lances he'll be the

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Speaker 1: starting quarterback, but how long does he hold onto it.

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Speaker 1: If he has two bad games to start the season,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be brock Purty time. Hey, Purdy's ready, he's ready,

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Speaker 1: he's healthy's ready to go. We're going to brock Purty.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of how it goes. But all this drama

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Speaker 1: at the center of it with what are they gonna do?

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Speaker 1: brock Purty gonna be the guy that's kind of out

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Speaker 1: the window now because Purdy can't throw a football till

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Speaker 1: the end of August. Well, still drama, just it shifts

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Speaker 1: and now it's all on every rep, every pass attempt,

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Speaker 1: every failed pass attempt, every pass to air that would

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Speaker 1: have been picked off. You know, all those things we

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Speaker 1: his own injuries. So there's already that And we watched

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Speaker 1: to start looking and seeing, all right, is it another

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Speaker 1: young guy in the draft, Is it someone that gets

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Speaker 1: want a guy who will keep the line steady for

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Speaker 1: what is a pretty stacked roster because if you look

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Speaker 1: at all your preseason predictions, awful lot of forty nine

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Speaker 1: ers on the board in terms of representation for the

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Speaker 1: big game in Las Vegas. So curiosity, But for Trey Lance, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the microscope is there, and as I've always said, it's

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Speaker 1: a sunk cost. I know you want to see what

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Speaker 1: he is, but that's those are draft picks, and those

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Speaker 1: are considerations that are long in the rearview. You're playing

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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty three, So you can't be caught up

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Speaker 1: in nostalgia and your own sense of dinner. I get

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Speaker 1: out smarted. Boy. Remember remember that day we traded up

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Speaker 1: for Trey Lance. That was someday. I sat on the

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Speaker 1: porch drinking lemonade. It was a wonderful day for us.

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Speaker 1: But hey, those days are gone. We're in a new

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Speaker 1: era now. Well, but how much of the analysis of

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Speaker 1: the past years some were you have to see what

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Speaker 1: he is like, No, you don't you have been on

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Speaker 1: the field. Yeah, another guy that was winning. If Brock

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Speaker 1: Purdy was healthy, and that's a big if. You don't

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Speaker 1: know what would happen in that game, You don't know

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Speaker 1: how this would have proceeded. And going into the offseason, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Trey Lance could have been traded. Remember when he did

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Speaker 1: the actual emoji. When rand Carthon went down to Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: I mean there's there's stuff there. You start adding to that.

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Speaker 1: Guys know what social media little high jinks like that, dude,

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Speaker 1: and to say, oh, I was just trying to get

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Speaker 1: a rise out of people. That doesn't work. In twenty

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Speaker 1: postponement for brock Purty surgery. And look it's August at

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Speaker 1: best for him. So if if he's back healthy in August, okay,

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Speaker 1: which means Trey Lance has six seven, eight weeks to

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Speaker 1: it's not is he gonna who's gonna win the job?

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Speaker 1: And is anybody gonna get traded? It's Trey Lance is

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Speaker 1: the guy? Like that's this is a big change in

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Speaker 1: the off season for the NFL because of that news

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Speaker 1: with brock Purty that came in last night. Well, when

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Speaker 1: you know me, I love to tie all things together.

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Speaker 1: We were talking about David Carr being the great hype

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Speaker 1: from the Great Paul Hayman about Brack. I don't get those.

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Speaker 1: If he's not available, Hayman's gonna go find someone else

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Speaker 1: to champion. And be chief counsel too. So with that

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Speaker 1: now a storyline that's taken off the board, all eyes

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Speaker 1: they've never really left. Well, I can't say, can you

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Speaker 1: have eyes on something that is in a darkness retreat?

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Speaker 1: Like can we still have eyes on aug War? We're

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Speaker 1: still watching a cabin. Maybe it's the Guatemalan Hermitage retreat

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Speaker 1: that I've been researching as something maybe for a group experience,

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Speaker 1: for us to really immerse ourselves in this world. Dude,

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Speaker 1: if I want a darkness, if you'll turn the lights off,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to spend money on a ploddy. It's

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Speaker 1: expensive to fly to Guatemala, Buddy, I'm gonna stay here,

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Speaker 1: and it's an unparalleled experience, and it's an intense seclusion.

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Speaker 1: It's not practitioners deprived of all light and century distractions

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Speaker 1: thus plunges into a deep, witnessing awareness of the mind

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Speaker 1: pure consciousness. Come on, man, got down to the monks

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Speaker 1: and lamas into bed all the way through. Sure, but

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Speaker 1: I can get that same thing by saying, Hey, go

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Speaker 1: into your bedroom, lay down on your bed, turn the

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Speaker 1: lights off, close the shades. Boom Darkness Retreats three days,

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Speaker 1: eight hundred bucks and a trip to Guatemala. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: know how much it costs me to go through that?

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Speaker 1: Zero dollars. It costs me to walk across from one

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Speaker 1: part of my house to the other. What's more exciting?

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Speaker 1: Have you? Have you set it up as a meditative

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Speaker 1: there's my guest in our poster. There's Hall of Famer

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Speaker 1: Joe Cleco right next to him. Leg at a leg

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Speaker 1: at it. But come on, Aaron Rodgers is the guy

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Speaker 1: who he's the celebrity who whenever there's a new fad

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Speaker 1: To make him look like I'm really cool and irrelevant. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go on a darkness a treat. It's like

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Speaker 1: what And I'm sure he thought that sounded really cool

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Speaker 1: darkness retreat. And we all has had the exact opposite effect,

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Speaker 1: where teams are going, uh wait, when we want a

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Speaker 1: decision from this guy, he's got to go on a

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Speaker 1: darkness retreat. What are we doing here? What are we

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Speaker 1: doing here? Because I agree with with with the with

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Speaker 1: the impact that this is. This is not helping him.

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Speaker 1: It just makes him look like, Hey, you know what

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Speaker 1: I heard. If you drink water straight off a glacier,

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Speaker 1: it's to put stuff in your body that's gonna make

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Speaker 1: you live until you're one hundred and fifty years old.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's Aaron Rodgers. Oh you know what

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Speaker 1: I heard? I heard this. Hey, I heard the snake

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Speaker 1: oil is really good. Hey, you know I can really

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Speaker 1: solve all your problems. That's who Aaron Rodgers is, and

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Speaker 1: now everybody is We're still waiting for him to come

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Speaker 1: out of this darkness retreat. I can't believe he didn't

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Speaker 1: come out of the dark retreat a day ago, like

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Speaker 1: Groundhogs Day. I'm coming out. I'm talking to Pat McAfee

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Speaker 1: and I'm saying I'm playing, but he's still in the

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. It was the end of

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Speaker 1: last week. It was a four day retreat. Here we

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Speaker 1: are and it's Wednesday and we have not heard from him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, maybe he's sleeping. That's what I'd be doing

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Speaker 1: there's going to be for teams to say, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: want to go all in on Aaron Rodgers because he

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Speaker 1: came out of his Darkness retreat and we're ready to go.

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Speaker 1: Do you think about that for a second, that a

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Speaker 1: Derek Carr is gonna get in the Fresdano State Hall

425
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Speaker 1: of Fame right now, okay, but in that Jets room,

426
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,679
Speaker 1: I take I take it back. Derek Carr is a

427
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,400
Speaker 1: very fine player and deserves the Fresno State Hall of Fame,

428
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,639
Speaker 1: no question about it. Okay, but take that. But the

429
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 1: two parts of this. Number one, who in the Jets

430
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,200
Speaker 1: organization is the Fresno State. The problem with the Fresno

431
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 1: State Hall of Fame is it's in Fresno. Well, there's

432
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 1: the Fresno County Hall of Fame, all right. Now, there's

433
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Speaker 1: the Fresno County Hall of Fame. David Carr is already

434
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Speaker 1: in it, and so is Tom Siever. So I think Derek,

435
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,399
Speaker 1: I think there's room for Derek Car to get in

436
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 1: another great New Yorker, right yeah, Matt to a Jet.

437
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,680
Speaker 1: Now you got Baseball Hall of Fame. You got the

438
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,880
Speaker 1: you got the match. Yeah, I'm jets this next day

439
00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 1: next to the next step Stephen Baker. How about take

440
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 1: that to meanie. Trent Dilfer is in the Fresnel Hall

441
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 1: of Fame. All these guy they're all in fren Delfer

442
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 1: is a wonderful human being. Oh I love him very much.

443
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 1: He's great, great guy. Stefan Page, Logan Mankins. Yes, of

444
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 1: course Derek Carr's getting in the Fresnel Hall. Are you

445
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 1: really actually you really actually looked this up? Yes, there

446
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 1: is a website Fresnel Hall of Fame dot org. Yeah

447
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:26,439
Speaker 1: it right now, right, stef Page. Yeah, dude, kansascy Chief's

448
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,640
Speaker 1: Ring of Honor. Stefawn Page, are he probably didn't even

449
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 1: make that. Diddy Jeffords in the Fresnel Hall of Fame.

450
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:37,679
Speaker 1: Look at these guys. Jeff Tedford the only coach that

451
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,679
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers actually respects. So you won't be so you

452
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 1: won't be presenting. So I have I have to talk

453
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 1: to some mother Hall of Fame. I have to cultivate

454
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 1: a ten year relationship with another Hall of Fame voter

455
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 1: to get him to present Derek Carr when it's signed

456
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Speaker 1: for him to be inducted into the Hall of Fame.

457
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,719
Speaker 1: Is that what you're telling me? Pretty much? That's why

458
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,399
Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now. Unless he does win the

459
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 1: two supermot your better work with Bob Glauber. Don't start

460
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 1: working Gary Myers, Myers and Glauber take those guys go'll

461
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 1: start sending them the sandwich coupon. Smith. Yeah, accept that

462
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 1: they expire in like two days by the time you

463
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: get him in the mail. The sandwich coupon expire. That's

464
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 1: how Jason Smith works nicely. Hey, I've been looking into

465
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 1: a Guatemalan darkness retreat to try to experience what Aaron

466
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,880
Speaker 1: Rodgers does as the holding pattern for the quarterbacks all

467
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,439
Speaker 1: goes through. What do you what do you make of

468
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 1: this as we move forward? How long does this hold

469
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 1: out before we actually get decisions on these guys? You know,

470
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 1: I'd like to find some silly The whole thing is

471
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 1: just idiocy again. Um, Aaron Rodgers, he's not walking away

472
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 1: from the sixty something million dollars he's gonna get or

473
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Speaker 1: whatever the total is, right, He's gonna play. They've got

474
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Speaker 1: to come. He's got to make it seem like it's

475
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 1: his decision that he wants to go as much as

476
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,959
Speaker 1: the Packers would. You know, look, the Packers would love

477
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: to have him if he's willing to be a team

478
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 1: guy again and sort of turn around his mantras, which

479
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 1: a great word for a guy who's in a darkness retreat,

480
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,199
Speaker 1: if he's willing to flip that script and be a

481
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 1: good team guy again. Except that you know what you

482
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 1: saw between him and Lafloor during games last year was

483
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 1: complete disrespect, the eye roll over the strategy decisions. But

484
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 1: and the fact that they I think they believe that

485
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 1: Jordan Love can actually play and that he's had enough

486
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 1: time on the bench, which, just by the way, may

487
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 1: I say is a really good lesson for anybody who

488
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,479
Speaker 1: takes Anthony Richardson in this draft. You better get him

489
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 1: to a team that has a really good quarterback who

490
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 1: he can sit behind for two or three years before

491
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: he learns how to play. And that's not a serious

492
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: note because I think Answering Richard an amazing athlete. He's

493
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: not a quarterback yet. So that aside, if they can

494
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Speaker 1: come to some kind of terms where it looks like

495
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is the one calling the shots, they have

496
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 1: a chance to make this trade happens if he gets

497
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 1: the hint that they want to move on, he is

498
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 1: just about cynical enough to want to really stick it

499
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,360
Speaker 1: to him and stay for another year and play mind game.

500
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: He really is like that this is a whole twisted thing,

501
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 1: Like it has gone from him being upset about what

502
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,959
Speaker 1: he felt like was his wasted career to him like

503
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: doing the Packer revenge tour. Like it just you know, like, oh,

504
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: I'm going to take this out on you. Brian Goodakuns.

505
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 1: Let me make you as small as humanly possible. Well, Fleur,

506
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,959
Speaker 1: let me make you as small as humanly possible, because

507
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: I'm the quarterback and I can do anything. That's how

508
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has them conducting this for a couple of years. Yeah,

509
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: but what wouldn't the Packers if they want to move on,

510
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 1: wouldn't they be okay with that? Hey, Aaron wanted out.

511
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: That's it's it's more free publicity for them. Hey, we

512
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 1: tried to keep Aaron. You see obviously he wanted to go.

513
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 1: I don't see that being a big u deterrent in

514
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: the trade. Ye Aaron, you want to say you want Okay, great,

515
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: Well we'll go on from there and and for them,

516
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 1: it's fine. For them, it's fine what they can't allow

517
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: to have happened. And there's been a headline, like a

518
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: headline came out last week the Packers would like to

519
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 1: move on, you know that kind of thing. Okay, that's

520
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 1: that's um Like somebody started in the car while you

521
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 1: while you're a drive air across country. Like that didn't

522
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: work to convince Aaron that he wants to go, Like

523
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: that's him being in the darkness retreat and you know, like, oh,

524
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 1: who's in there here with me? What do I smell?

525
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 1: That kind of thing, Like it's a bad it's a

526
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: bad deal for the Packers when that kind of a

527
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 1: headline comes out. And if he believes that that's what

528
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: they want, like they kind of have to grovel. They

529
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: have to play a public perception of we really want

530
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: to have him back, we'd love you, we love you'd

531
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,479
Speaker 1: love you, that kind of thing, And as soon as

532
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 1: they start to grovel and seem weak again, then he

533
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 1: can punish them, like it's it's like this is such

534
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 1: a mind game, it's ridiculous. Dan Patrick's show here, Jason Smith,

535
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: Mike Harman in for the guys today on the hotline

536
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: with us joins us on our show. There's a one

537
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: shot deal for you guys right like after they really

538
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: listen to this show, like it's not gonna happen. No, no, no,

539
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: I could go back in the archives. We've done it

540
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: a couple of times, so we haven't been kicked out

541
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 1: permanently just yet. This is gonna be your last time

542
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: as a first Football Hall a very good voter. They're

543
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,360
Speaker 1: gonna go after my appearance on this show. You guys

544
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 1: are done. But that's okay, Wait a minute, Jason Cole

545
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: said he won't present Derek Carter the Hall of Fame.

546
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 1: All right, he's out. No more voting for Jason Coles.

547
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: A it's a long path before that would have to

548
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,239
Speaker 1: happen at Jason Coles. Do we find him? Read him

549
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: on out kick? All right? We gotta go to the

550
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 1: Cowboys because you know flirtations now and talking about the draft.

551
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 1: We had the postseason comments from an angry Jerry Jones

552
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,439
Speaker 1: talking about the draft and being that being a priority.

553
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 1: Uh dak on a short lease here in terms of

554
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: his tenure with the Cowboys. I mean, I know that

555
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: contract is prohibitive at all. Contract contract they're sort they're

556
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,199
Speaker 1: sort of stuck with that one for a while. The

557
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 1: other thing is, you know, like that was Jerry and

558
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: Stephen's idea, so like they're they're trapped by that contract. Um. Yeah, look,

559
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 1: jerrykins fust and team and all that he wants and

560
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: eventually fire another coach along the way. But you know

561
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: it's always his fault. I mean, he's only constructed this team.

562
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: I mean, look, it's it's the comedy of of the Cowboys.

563
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: Uh where they they say all things are gonna change,

564
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: things are gonna change, and yeah, we'll got bringing more

565
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: cowboy bees and we are all those kinds of things

566
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: that Jerry Jones talks about, right, cowboy bees during the day.

567
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: Nobody will get that. And you'd be surprised the number

568
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: of folks that turned right around and got up with

569
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: us this warning. Loyal folks. Yeah, be shocked. I'd be

570
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: shocked if anybody got up to listen to me. Um.

571
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: But yeah, like Jerry fumes, it's the same thing every year,

572
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: Like nothing changes. Okay, we're gonna change the coach. We've

573
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: got a high paid quarterback who you get into your

574
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: next quarterback? You know, I hear, Oh they'll trade for

575
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. They're not trading for Aaron Rodgers. They're not

576
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: doing that. Um, it will be too much draft capital.

577
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: And the Packers aren't gonna trading for the Cowboys. Like

578
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: it's just not going to happen that way, So forget that. Um, look,

579
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's just it's the cycle of I

580
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: need attention. It's sort of Jerry Jones in a lot

581
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: of ways is like Antonio Brown, and that's a really

582
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: weird comparison. It's like like every three to four weeks,

583
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: or it's more like every two to three months. Every

584
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: two to three months, there's an Antonio Brown sighting. He

585
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: says something crazy just because like he needs to get attention. So, oh,

586
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: let me create some headlines because nobody's paying attention anymore

587
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: to me, and just let everybody know that I'm out there,

588
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: Like that's where the Cowboys are in their cycle and

589
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: just trying to get attention. Like, oh, it's gonna be good.

590
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: It's gonna be good because it's the soap opera. It's

591
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: just the Jerry Jones soap opera. The thing that was

592
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: more fascinating to me that came out yesterday was Dave

593
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: Ziegler from the Raiders saying, you know, we might not

594
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: have that immediate answer basically from the quarterback situation. And

595
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: you know, Derek carry humor aside. So you're telling me

596
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: you've got rid of a solid starting quarterback and now

597
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: you realize you don't have a plan. You didn't even

598
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: try to sell stated him at all. Right, Like what

599
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: time out? Time out? If you get rid of somebody

600
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: who's a solid, good, solid player, not a Hall of Famer,

601
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: and certainly not as a jet a Hall of famer.

602
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: But if you get rid of that good, solid, starting

603
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: quarterback and who's made you, you know, a playoff team,

604
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: you know recently, and and you don't have a plan

605
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: for the next quarterback, what are you doing? Like seriously, well,

606
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,239
Speaker 1: why did I hire you? Why did I hire you

607
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: as a gym? And why did I hire that dude

608
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: as the coach who told me that this quarterback wasn't

609
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: good enough? But I don't have another answer like that

610
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: makes absolutely no sense to me, absolutely zero. And I'm

611
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: not sure that Josh mcdeon makes the John Carroll Hall

612
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: of Fame. Get that reference. That's a good one. Well, look,

613
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this call. I will help you out here,

614
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: you know, coming on the show as you do, because

615
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: we give you one sandwich a year and the deal

616
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: you signed, I send him whiskey. When when Derek Carr

617
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: I got, I got, I got, I got three bottles

618
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: of whiskey a year from one of you. I get

619
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: expired sandwich tickets from the other. Well, it's not my fault.

620
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: They're expired. When I buy him. I don't know. They

621
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: look they look legit enough to me, but just wait,

622
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: just wait. Here's what I will do for you. That's there.

623
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: There's that sell by date thing just doesn't quite work

624
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: with you, right that that I didn't even look at that,

625
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: but it just says best buy. I mean, come on,

626
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: here's what I will do for you. When Derek Carr

627
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,479
Speaker 1: signs with the Jets, and the Jets are in the

628
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: Super Bowl next year, and Derek Carr is coming back

629
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: to Vegas the triumphant hero, I will go to Vegas

630
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: two weeks early just to listen to Vegas sports talk

631
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: radio to hear every caller say, how do we give

632
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: up on Derek Carr? How do we let the Jets

633
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: get them? And now they're in the Super Bowl, and

634
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: how to watch Derek Carr back here at the stadium,

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Speaker 1: played in the Super Bowl. I will do that for

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Speaker 1: Why why do you have to go to Vegas to

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Speaker 1: do that? Because it's more fun. I want to be

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Speaker 1: see he wants to be among the people. I'm a

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Speaker 1: man of the people. I want to be among the

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Speaker 1: people walking down the street going. I can't when we

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Speaker 1: let Derek car go for this job we got we

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Speaker 1: got him. That's right, we got Derek Carr. That's what

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Speaker 1: we got him. That's why we're in the Super Bowl. Baby,

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Speaker 1: that's right. Where's my buddy? So Meini, I met him

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Speaker 1: with me. That's what they're gonna do. That's gonna be

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Speaker 1: you walking down the street next year in Vegas. Right now,

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Speaker 1: the man you are listening to is a Pro Football

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame voter, a long insider. I was I

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Speaker 1: want a good run. Today it's over. It's just so done.

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Speaker 1: I'm just checking out on out kick. It's Jersey Jason,

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Speaker 1: call uh Jersey jac they're calling to take him away

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Speaker 1: right now. Appreciate it. My look, I'm crying as they

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Speaker 1: take Jason Cole's vote away. I'm so crying. I've got

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00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: it so bad. I played a role in this just

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Speaker 1: like Zach Thomas, except I'm doing it from Jason Cole.

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Speaker 1: Look at him, he's got to actually hand his badge

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Speaker 1: over to him. He's gonna take it off his neck

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Speaker 1: and give him the lanyard. So sad we're can't fling

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Speaker 1: you from the zoom call out. The passcode is changed

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Speaker 1: to see you buddy. Oh man, I mean if people

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Speaker 1: guy guy's a Pro Football Hall of Fame voter. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: yes he is. Now look just really quick on dak

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Speaker 1: is that? Just think about this for a second. Every

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Speaker 1: time you you know, you hear, hey, this contract is bad.

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Speaker 1: This contract is bad. Aaron Rodgers has ninety million dollars

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Speaker 1: a deadcap money this year, and what are we talking

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Speaker 1: about the Packers trading him and him being able to

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Speaker 1: move on. No money is unavoidable, No, no, there's no

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Speaker 1: money obstacle. If a team wants to make a trade

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Speaker 1: with somebody because a player either doesn't want to be

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Speaker 1: there they want to move on, So the money, the

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Speaker 1: no trade clause is not an obstacle because they just exist.

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Speaker 1: So a player can't get dealt anywhere, all right, no trade.

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Speaker 1: No one wants to stay in a place where they're

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Speaker 1: not welcome. So all it does is say, Okay, I'm

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Speaker 1: just going to control of the teams. I will accept

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Speaker 1: a trade too, and I waive the trade clause. I'm

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00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: telling you Dallas, Dallas wants to Jordan Love Dak Prescott

679
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: this offseason. Mike Carmen, it's coming, It's coming, Twitter At

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Speaker 1: how about a fresca? Mike gets swollen dome. Jason Smith

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Speaker 1: and my bis friend Mike Harmon in for Dan and

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Speaker 1: the Dan Nets today. But if you think we've had

683
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: crazy quarterback conversation so far, way do we ask you

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Speaker 1: the forty five million dollar question coming up next? Right here?

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Speaker 1: not our idiot guests who think they know more about

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Speaker 1: sports than we go. He ain't listened to these dummies.

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Speaker 1: You don't know crap about book. This is the worst thing.

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Speaker 1: He's still on the way off the shot. You don't know.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, Jason Smith, Mike Harmon, Dan for Dan

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Speaker 1: and the Danettes Today thanks to Jason Cole, I mean

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Speaker 1: I think thanks to Jason Cole. It was great. A

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Speaker 1: few minutes ago. He took every shot possible at us

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00:36:51,600 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: and our ability, verbosity, the ability to process NFL in information,

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00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: and really tried to cut our legs out from under us.

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Speaker 1: But that's okay, we keep standing. I'm like Elton John,

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Speaker 1: I've got the hat, I've got the glass. I'm ready

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00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: to go. Let's go. So well, amidst all the quarterback

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Speaker 1: craziness going on the last couple of days, a headline

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00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: that is easily to be dismissed, but I'm telling you

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Speaker 1: it's gonna happen. You had a furrowed brow there. You

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00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: were like rubbing your temples, right there as you it is, well, listen,

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Speaker 1: because I spend a lot of time thinking about the

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Speaker 1: Derek Carr Hall of Fame thing and how I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: feel when he goes in, and the emotion I'm gonna

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00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: have after winning two Super Bowls with the Jets. It's

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00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: gonna feel that way. But not the only big quarterback

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Speaker 1: craziness happening that not just Aaron Rodgers, Not just is

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Speaker 1: that this story that's gaining a lot of momentum the

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Speaker 1: last couple of days. Daniel Jones switching agents and he

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Speaker 1: wants forty five million dollars a year for his next

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Speaker 1: contract from the Giants. And it seems crazy, right, oh,

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, because he's not a forty five million dollars

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Speaker 1: year A player. Looked the guy through fifteen touchdowns last year? Okay,

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00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: he totaled twenty two touchts. Is he a great quarterback? No,

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Speaker 1: he's not. But JA worked with the Giants, Yeah he does.

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Speaker 1: He does. He work for the Giants, Yes he does.

729
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Speaker 1: Brian Dable came over from Buffalo and said, you know, listen,

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Speaker 1: we have a guy here I can take advantage of

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Speaker 1: a skill set. I always said that Daniel Jones is

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Speaker 1: kind of a Josh Allen light And what did Brian

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Speaker 1: Dable do. He made him into the Giants version of

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen. He was able to make more plays with

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Speaker 1: his legs, doubled his career amount of rushing yards, and

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Speaker 1: still put enough points on the board for the Giants.

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Speaker 1: He works with the Giants. So forty five million, No,

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Speaker 1: the Giants are gonna pay him. They're gonna give him

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Speaker 1: forty five million dollars. Yes, they'll franchise him now. But

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Speaker 1: there's only four quarterbacks who have played an entire season

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Speaker 1: in the franchise tag the last eighteen years, and two

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Speaker 1: of them were Kirk Cousins. So the franchise play franchise

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Speaker 1: tag is just we're gonna put it on for now

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Speaker 1: and then figure it out. The Giants will wind up

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Speaker 1: paying him. Why, they just got a huge taste of

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Speaker 1: the playoffs after years of trying to figure out what

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Speaker 1: do we do at the end of Eli Manning's career

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Speaker 1: and what do we do after Eli Manning's career is over,

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Speaker 1: And now they're gonna throw that at risk because they're

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Speaker 1: probably not going to bring back, say Quon Barkley, because

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Speaker 1: it's too much money for a running back who really

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Speaker 1: fell off a cliff the last half of the season

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Speaker 1: last year. They they they killed him with that thirty

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Speaker 1: five carry game he had in Week eleven. And so

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Speaker 1: what are you gonna do. You're gonna take a body

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Speaker 1: you're running back and your quarterback. No, they're gonna give

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones money. He's got a lot of leverage in

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Speaker 1: this situation. And the Giants aren't going to go backwards.

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Speaker 1: They're not gonna say, Okay, well that's too much money.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna start it out with somebody else. No, it's

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Speaker 1: not gonna it's not gonna be that way. And and

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Speaker 1: just understand that from a from a football perspective, money

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Speaker 1: for quarterbacks is never gonna stop. Like it's like I

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Speaker 1: hear people talk about this, and I hear fans talk

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Speaker 1: about it. I see I see people talk about it

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Speaker 1: on TV and they go, well, yeah, it's too much

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Speaker 1: money here. No, that that's not happening. We're not We're

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Speaker 1: not going to have an unofficial collusion of quarterbacks not

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Speaker 1: getting paid and suddenly it's going to be a slow increase.

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Speaker 1: By the year twenty thirty, we're gonna have a quarterback

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Speaker 1: making one hundred million dollars a year. Right, If Daniel

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Speaker 1: Jones worth forty five million, what's Joe Burrow gonna be

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Speaker 1: worth sixty million? Yeah, Joe Burrow's gonna be worth sixty

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Speaker 1: million dollars a year when it comes time for his contract,

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Speaker 1: when it comes up. What's myhome's gonna be worth? Right,

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Speaker 1: Mahomes signed for a big deal, Mahomes will be a

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Speaker 1: sixty seventy million dollars a year guy. That's how it

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Speaker 1: goes with quarterbacks. The prices just go up. So as

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones in theory of forty five million dollar guy, No,

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Speaker 1: but forty five million a year for just an average

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Speaker 1: to above average quarterback is where we're at. Every year

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Speaker 1: somebody breaks the mold and signs a contract that's a

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Speaker 1: little bit more, a little bit more that then it

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Speaker 1: should be for a quarterback, and it's gonna wind up

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Speaker 1: being Daniel Jones. The Giants will keep them. They don't

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Speaker 1: want to go backwards. They know the price for quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: you're just gonna go up. The salary cap is going

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Speaker 1: up for the NFL, So it's all good. This is

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Speaker 1: how it goes. Yeah. The other part to it all, Jason,

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00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: is it's always the replacement cost. Who else are you

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Speaker 1: bringing in? Right? Riseing Jones? Say what you will about

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00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: the stats. Fifteen touchdowns, five interceptions, it's nice three to

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Speaker 1: one ratio and decidedly throwing too. Shall we say, a

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00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: subpar set of receivers by NFL standards? I think that's

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00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: fair to say. As you roll forward, so you look

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00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: at re upping that cast around and whatever Gala Day

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00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: is at this point that he's a sunk cost. As

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Speaker 1: far as I went, you let and got rid of

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Speaker 1: Cadarius Tony, So now you're resetting that. But if you

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Speaker 1: look behind curt number two at the quarterback position, what

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00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: is it You're gonna go draft the guy? Well, you're

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00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: not drafting until the twenty fifth pick, and then the

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00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: second round pick is fifty seven. Maybe you find a

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00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: diamond in the rough and a long term guy. That's fine,

805
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: but you didn't give Jones is fifty year option. You

806
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: didn't pick up on that, and now you have to

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00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: pay the piper. And as you say, the salary cap

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00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: keeps rising up with every subsequent media deal. The money

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00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 1: just keeps flowing in, which means the salary cap keeps rising.

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Speaker 1: And who takes a good chunk quarterback. Not anybody. There's

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Speaker 1: very few guys that are gonna be in a position

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00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: like Tom Brady was to say, you know what, I

813
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: can take less, build a defense, build a squad around me,

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00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: because long term competitive is and you could write all

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Speaker 1: the articles you want. We could do all of it

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00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: on radio and TV until we're blue in the face

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00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: of he should take a little less so they can

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Speaker 1: add more around. And that's all fine and good, that's

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Speaker 1: all great theoretical. I'm not getting in the man's wallet.

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00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: He is worth what the market will bear. He changed

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Speaker 1: agents because you know he wants that kind of deal,

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Speaker 1: and he has the Giants in a position of where

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00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 1: he's got all the strength and they don't. Right, if

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00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: the Giants just had another middling season where hey, Daniel

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00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 1: Jones played better, but the team was still six and eleven,

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Speaker 1: yeah no, it's not happening. Say hey, we're okay starting over.

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Speaker 1: But they got the playoffs, and they got there in

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Speaker 1: the first year where the head coach who came in,

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Speaker 1: who clearly was did the best job of any coach

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Speaker 1: in the NFL in the regular season last year because

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Speaker 1: he came in with nothing and they didn't add anybody

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Speaker 1: to the team and they wound up making the playoffs

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Speaker 1: and the sky's a limit. Now they're going to bring

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Speaker 1: in more talent. Giants. Aren't going back to that. They're

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Speaker 1: not going back. Yes, Daniel Jones will get forty five

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Speaker 1: million dollars, people will go crazy, and we'll shrug and say,

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Speaker 1: this is how it goes in the NFL. And yes,

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00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow will get sixty million Twitter. How about a

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Speaker 1: fresca Mike gets swollen dome? Jason Smith, Mike Harmon in

840
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Speaker 1: for Dan and the Danet's coming up. We get back

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00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:12,280
Speaker 1: into a big NFL quarterback topic. This is Fox Sports Radio.