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Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast knows how to spell? Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Round the League Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas, and I'm joined by a

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Speaker 1: room filled with heroes, Chris Westling, Mark Sessler, and Greg Rosenthal.

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Speaker 1: What up, boys, d Good afternoon. I got a full

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Speaker 1: house again. It always feels better with the full house.

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Speaker 1: A full house that will be growing. Dave Damnachet coming

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Speaker 1: special guest, Greg Cosell of NFL Films. Well, yeah, that

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Speaker 1: that's very exciting. Coseell is uh quite knowledgeable in the

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Speaker 1: world of football. I found in y in my travel

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Speaker 1: as opposed to the other people in this room or

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Speaker 1: what are you trying to say that Maybe West knows more.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. West is kind of a genius, which

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Speaker 1: is why later at the end of the show we

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Speaker 1: will be playing when West's toaster. It's such a bad

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Speaker 1: what do you think, car Rich we can do with

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Speaker 1: that's a dig at me. That's coming right back at me.

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Speaker 1: I mean that was that was throwing some people under

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Speaker 1: production assistant for something wrong. No, the reason I don't

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Speaker 1: like it is probably because I'm the one who, um,

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Speaker 1: up somebody's food on the table. The podcast studio is

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Speaker 1: still in dire shape. But let's let us get straight

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Speaker 1: into a very busy day. We got a lot going on.

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Speaker 1: We'll start it right now though, with the news. M Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Speaking in production values, I emailed ky Ride a couple

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Speaker 1: days ago. I said, last time the music came on,

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Speaker 1: My ears hurt. Bonker sacks. It can't be low at all.

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, starting off Number one, Hayton Manny misses

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Speaker 1: practice Wednesday with an ankle injury, but they say he

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Speaker 1: will play on Sunday. It helps explain those throws we

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Speaker 1: as good as normal. I didn't think his throws were

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Speaker 1: seems to me like not much of an issue. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if he took that bad hit on Sunday and a

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Speaker 1: lot of people speculated that that was the reason why

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Speaker 1: floating pretty bad. But uh, you know, if it was

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Speaker 1: a driving off issue, maybe this is it. We'll see.

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Speaker 1: He's not twenty four years old, so you know it's

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Speaker 1: not no. I mean, I can relate to this guy

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Speaker 1: he's gonna have an ankle tweak here and there. They

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Speaker 1: took a photo of him this morning during his press

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Speaker 1: most he's been hitting a long time. The last thing

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Speaker 1: it's significant that he missed it. Then again, how many

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's many of them. Mark tell us

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Speaker 1: a situation that much different Ai than West, who's like

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Speaker 1: about twelve days younger than I am. Or frankly, you're

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Speaker 1: got some time. I just has no responsibilities. Well at

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Speaker 1: this time. Yes, I know, I have a garden, as

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Speaker 1: I've said several times, and I tend to it quite well.

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Speaker 1: What else is in the news, k Rich? We all

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Speaker 1: know that a garden is a lot of work. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: k Rich. Blaine Gabard Wrenched in Jacksonville, Brandon Whedon, sorry,

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Speaker 1: week sixteen or something? Already? This just feels like such

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Speaker 1: possibly go with Brandon Weeden again. You cannot. Chud. Chud

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Speaker 1: so Wally's game was worse than any Blaine Gabber game

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Speaker 1: it's all in a deep swamp of ugliness. I'm not

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Speaker 1: That's obvious. Now we're moving on, and that's pretty much

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Speaker 1: think that could happen for Weedon? It could you know what?

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Speaker 1: Who knows? Maybe in the CFL. What about for his career.

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Speaker 1: I never said what happened his career. It's still in play.

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Speaker 1: Oh shut up, guess what else is in the news?

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Speaker 1: Rich al Right, guys, after a not so impressive first

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Speaker 1: Greg there that seemed a little premature. Christian Ponder gets

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Speaker 1: One last thing more Brown's news. Josh Gordon says he's

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Speaker 1: love to see Josh Gordon go to the New England Patriots,

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Speaker 1: if they're really shopping him, but why would they trade him?

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't he be someone you would go get a quarterback

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Speaker 1: have any anyone who has is being paid to assess

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Speaker 1: I think that the team is wrestling with the fact that,

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Speaker 1: he is really on the trade market, they don't like him.

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Speaker 1: I mean they don't like him for strong reasons, because

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Speaker 1: he's a difference maker. He's one of the most productive

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Speaker 1: whatever it is. We've we've seen many reports about his attitude,

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Speaker 1: you don't want to give up on Josh Gordon. One

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Speaker 1: the past game. Uh, I think the forty Niners are

426
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Speaker 1: a little different situation. I think the forty Niners wanted

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Speaker 1: to expand what they did offensively with the past game

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Speaker 1: because of Kaepernick's throwing ability, and I think they found

429
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Speaker 1: out that he may not quite have been ready yet

430
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Speaker 1: in his learning curve to take that next step. So

431
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Speaker 1: now I think they've taken a bit of a step back.

432
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Speaker 1: Not only were their run game with the Backs, but

433
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Speaker 1: this week they clearly made his legs a featured part

434
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Speaker 1: of their offense. And they used two back pistol a

435
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Speaker 1: number of times as well, and obviously had success with it,

436
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Speaker 1: including the twenty yard touchdown. Do you think that's a

437
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Speaker 1: sustainable approach? Like you said, how the Redskins were lining

438
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Speaker 1: up over the snaps, how the forty are line on

439
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Speaker 1: Kaepernick's legs. You know, if somebody told me that my

440
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Speaker 1: children would be in danger if I didn't answer that

441
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Speaker 1: question yes or no, I think my answer would be no.

442
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Speaker 1: I don't think it's ultimately sustainable. Hey, Greg, Chris Wesley,

443
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Speaker 1: Hey Chris, how are you? I'm well? Thank you. I

444
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Speaker 1: was impressed by what I saw from case Keenum last week.

445
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Speaker 1: I guess I have a two part question here. Did

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Speaker 1: they open up that offense and run a little pistol actually,

447
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Speaker 1: and does Keenum have the physical ability to start for

448
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Speaker 1: the rest of the season if if the Texans need that. Well,

449
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Speaker 1: the first the first question is an easy answer. Yes,

450
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Speaker 1: they were in pistol quite a bit with the same

451
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Speaker 1: run game. Basically, now Foster got hurt early and they

452
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Speaker 1: run a little bit of a different run game with

453
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Speaker 1: Kate because he's not a true zone runner the way

454
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Speaker 1: Foster is, So their run game changed a bit. But

455
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Speaker 1: you can do anything in the run game out of pistol,

456
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Speaker 1: which is why teams run it um. The other question

457
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Speaker 1: probably speaks to one sense of of NFL quarterback attributes.

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Speaker 1: I think Keenum is is a kid who has a

459
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Speaker 1: very good feel for the position. I think he throws

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Speaker 1: the ball with touch. I think he throws the ball

461
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Speaker 1: with accuracy. I don't think he snaps it off very well,

462
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Speaker 1: so I think arm strength would be a question mark.

463
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Speaker 1: And then it comes down to one's view of the

464
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Speaker 1: NFL quarterback position. I've always believed, from watching tape for

465
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Speaker 1: a long time that you need to be able to

466
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Speaker 1: make certain kinds of throws at some point in important games,

467
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Speaker 1: so I would need to see more of case Keenum,

468
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Speaker 1: but I I don't think there's a lot of snap

469
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Speaker 1: and velocity to his throws. Greg Mark cecil here, good

470
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Speaker 1: to talk with you, Hey, Mark. You know, one of

471
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Speaker 1: the radioactive topics in this room has been Trent Richardson

472
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Speaker 1: going from Cleveland's Indianapolis. Obviously too early to really judge

473
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Speaker 1: the trade on its own, but when you watch his play,

474
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Speaker 1: what you're taking have we seen really his ceiling or

475
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Speaker 1: is this someone that still is going to develop into

476
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Speaker 1: something that the cults were looking for. Well, he's made

477
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Speaker 1: me look kind of stupid because I thought when he

478
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Speaker 1: came out that he was the best back since Peterson

479
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Speaker 1: to come out, and he's certainly not been that guy.

480
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Speaker 1: To me. He has not run at all like he

481
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Speaker 1: did at Alabama. I can't answer why he hasn't, but

482
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Speaker 1: he just does not look like that guy. Uh, And

483
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm beginning to wonder if this is what

484
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Speaker 1: he is. In other words, he could have some some

485
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Speaker 1: good games, obviously, because he can be in a position

486
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Speaker 1: I'm sure where he hit some holes and you know,

487
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Speaker 1: has some fifty plays, But I I'm not seeing the

488
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Speaker 1: same kind of lateral movement that that I saw when

489
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Speaker 1: I watched him at Alabama? Is any of that because

490
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Speaker 1: of the plays they're calling for him, should they be

491
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Speaker 1: running more outside the tackles a little bit once in

492
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Speaker 1: a while. I've always viewed him as as a power runner.

493
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Speaker 1: I mean the play power where the guard polls, because

494
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 1: to me, he's a downhill guy who has natural power.

495
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Speaker 1: And I thought in college he showed great lateral agility

496
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Speaker 1: and quickness and confined areas, which you have to do

497
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Speaker 1: in the NFL, and he hasn't seemed to show that

498
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Speaker 1: part of it in the NFL. Uh. It seems that

499
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Speaker 1: at times he's indecisive. At times I think I don't

500
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: want to see he tries to bounce, But at times

501
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: I think he doesn't hit the whole and get what's

502
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Speaker 1: there and maybe a little more given his power. Uh

503
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Speaker 1: So he I think the runs are correct. I think

504
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Speaker 1: he's a power runner. I don't I don't see him

505
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Speaker 1: as his zone runner. Greg what happened to Ryan Tannehill

506
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Speaker 1: this last week? You know, to me, when when quarterbacks

507
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Speaker 1: are and all of us feel the need to make

508
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Speaker 1: judgments on a week to week basis, uh, And you

509
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Speaker 1: know I don't think anything happened to Ryan Tannehill. I

510
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Speaker 1: think I think Ryan Tannehill there's one thing that I

511
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Speaker 1: I think he really needs to improve on, and I

512
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Speaker 1: think he has a tendency to hold the ball just

513
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: a little too long. Now. We've looked at all of

514
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Speaker 1: his sacks through this year at times and some are

515
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Speaker 1: not on him at all, But I think he gets

516
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Speaker 1: sacked too much, and I think at times he just

517
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Speaker 1: doesn't pull the trigger as quickly as he needs to.

518
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Speaker 1: And I think he'll learn that. I like Ryan tannehill

519
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Speaker 1: skill set. Uh, He's not talked about a lot, but

520
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Speaker 1: you know, I think Ron Jaworski told me this when

521
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Speaker 1: I started working with him. He said, there's two games

522
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 1: a year and you never know what two they are

523
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Speaker 1: where a quarterback just does not necessarily play well. And

524
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Speaker 1: if you win those games, you know, no one talks

525
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: about it. If you'll lose those games, then everybody says

526
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Speaker 1: you played lousy. And I think that's probably what happened

527
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Speaker 1: this week. Hey, Greg, I just want to ask you

528
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Speaker 1: one question about you know, the current draft class. Um

529
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Speaker 1: is that who is the one player that's jumped out

530
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Speaker 1: to you that's been the biggest surprise and then the

531
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Speaker 1: biggest disappointment. We talked about quarterbacks in any player, any

532
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Speaker 1: player that you had your eye on, that you were

533
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: high on coming out of the draft, and then either

534
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 1: surprised you're talking about the players in the NFL now

535
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 1: or players now the rookies of this season. Uh okay,

536
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 1: let's think back now that those open ended questions are tough.

537
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: Who are the other rookies? I lose track of this

538
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 1: stuff as the season progresses. Havon Austin maybe, well, I

539
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: think he's been a disappointment because of the way I

540
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 1: think they play offense. And I mean two weeks ago

541
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Speaker 1: he played four snaps. You can't draft Avon Austin eighth

542
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: and play him four snaps or tenth wherever it was

543
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: that they obviously traded up. You can't do that. And

544
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Speaker 1: I don't think they've been unconventional in how they use him,

545
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Speaker 1: which I I said very strongly before the draft because

546
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Speaker 1: I loved him, that if you drafted him, you needed

547
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 1: to think a little bit outside the box, and they

548
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: have not done that. Um, who else would be? What

549
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: are your thoughts about Gina Smith? You know what I think?

550
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 1: You know? Smith has played for the most part very well.

551
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: You'd expect him to be a little uneven, which he's been,

552
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: but I think there are some quarterback attributes that really

553
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 1: stand out when you watch him. Number one, he's willing

554
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: to pull the trigger and on difficult throws and on

555
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 1: difficult throws at the intermediate and deeper levels. Uh Number two,

556
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: he's willing to stand in the pocket and deliver when

557
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: there's pressure, when there are bodies around him. Those are

558
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 1: very positive traits. And the way they call games, the

559
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: way Marty Morning would calls games, they clearly are developing

560
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: trust in him. I mean they came out the first

561
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Speaker 1: play this week against New England in a spread set

562
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Speaker 1: with three wide receivers to the left Jeff Cumberland to

563
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: the right, clearly a game plan play. They anticipated the

564
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Speaker 1: man coverage that the Patriots have been playing a lot of.

565
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: They got Cumberland matched on high tower and he made

566
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Speaker 1: a big time corners throw to start a game. You

567
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: know those are hard rose and that's the first play,

568
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: so they clearly think that he's advancing, and I think

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Speaker 1: it's it's been pretty positive for Gino Smith Mike Crazy

570
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: to think, well you are, thank you, and he said,

571
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Speaker 1: no one talks about Ryan Daniel. I'm always talking about

572
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Speaker 1: Ryan always. I was curious about a lot though. You know,

573
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Speaker 1: it's funny because he's I you know obviously, uh he

574
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: was in you know, this is his second year, so

575
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: he was in the draft with Luck Griffin and Russell Wilson,

576
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Speaker 1: and I don't think you hear his name mentioned very

577
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: often when those other names are mentioned. No, you're right,

578
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: I've been driving the bandwagon. So it was a tough

579
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Speaker 1: week for us. As Ryan Tannehill. Well, I don't want

580
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: to get you down, you know, I mean it's hey,

581
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: that's the way it works in this league. You know,

582
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: everybody expects and this is the way it's going to

583
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: be now with with particularly quarterbacks taken in the first round.

584
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: And you know, everybody's talking about a lot of guys

585
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: right now for this next draft. Until they go through

586
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: the process, we don't know, um is you know everybody's

587
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: ej Manuel. He was the sixteenth player shows and as

588
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: soon as he was drafted, I said that he's going

589
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: to start, because the way the league is now, you

590
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: can't draft a quarterback in the first round and not

591
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: start him. It's not going to happen. Am I crazy?

592
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,719
Speaker 1: Now I'll get back to to think that Alison Jeffrey

593
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: Is the wide receiver, is just as good a wide

594
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: receiver right now as Brandon Marshall. Um it's ability wise, No,

595
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: you're not. You just want to see performance over time. Uh.

596
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: You know. I happen to know some people down in

597
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: South Carolina. I remember talking to their offensive staff and

598
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: they told me that if he could keep his weight down,

599
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: he would have a chance to be a special receiver

600
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Speaker 1: because apparently he's one of these guys that if he

601
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Speaker 1: stops working out, you know, come balloon up to three

602
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: hundred pounds. He's just that kind of guy, you know. Unfortunately,

603
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: too many of us are like that too, you know,

604
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: especially when I eat too much. But you know, I

605
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: think Jeffrey Is is a very talented kid. I've learned

606
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: over the years that these tall are white outs. They're

607
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: They're stride length makes them vertical threats, you know when

608
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: you watch them. I got burned for years because I'd

609
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: watch guys coming out of college and I'd say, boy,

610
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: they're not fast. And then they get to the NFL.

611
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: And the last guy who was like that that I

612
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: got burned by was Jordy Nelson. Because I watched him

613
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: in college and I'm thinking, wow, you know, he doesn't

614
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: really run that well. And then he's running by NFL

615
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: corners because these taller receivers and Jeffreys even taller than Nelson.

616
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,719
Speaker 1: It's all about stride length. It's not about forty times.

617
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: You know, where a couple of weeks removed from the

618
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Speaker 1: Bucks setting free Josh Freeman, essentially making Mike Glennon their

619
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,479
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback the starter. What are you seeing from him?

620
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Speaker 1: Do you think that they're happy with where he's at

621
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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks into his career. Yeah, I think

622
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,959
Speaker 1: they'd be very happy. I've watched every snap and I

623
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: think Lennon is in many ways, you're sort of prototypical

624
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: pocket quarterback. He's got a feel for the pocket, the

625
00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: instincts of a passer the ball comes out. He's got

626
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: a little bit of pucket movement to him, which is

627
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: very good, some functional mobility. I wouldn't say as a gun,

628
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: but he can make every throw. So I would bet

629
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Speaker 1: they're very very happy with Mike glenn And now it'll

630
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: be very interesting to see what happens depending on how

631
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: their season plays out. They'll have to make a major

632
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: judgment on Mike Glenn because they could have a first, second, third,

633
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: fourth pick in the draft. And I can tell you

634
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: right now that to me, and I know to the

635
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: North Carolina State coaching staff, which was the same staff

636
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: that coached Matt Ryan at BC, they looked at those

637
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: two guys as almost the same player. I like it.

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Speaker 1: You're promoting on Thursday night football getting people to watch

639
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Speaker 1: Mike Glenn. How was I doing that? Oh? Just you know, incidental.

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Speaker 1: You're an NFL employee, you know. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: I always have dinner at the Combine with Ron Rivera

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Speaker 1: so I can promote it more. There we go. All right, Well, Greg,

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Speaker 1: you were a dominant forces always. Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for joining and please come back. Okay, alright, guys, thanks,

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. Thanks. Just just an appetiteer to

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Speaker 1: the real main course. Here we do. While while Greg

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Speaker 1: was on the phone with us, sitting down now the man,

648
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Speaker 1: there was a little heat between the h L podcast

649
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Speaker 1: and his podcast. But now he's in the studio, we're

650
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Speaker 1: gonna squash everything. Dave damashek Fellas. You're looking well, thank you,

651
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Speaker 1: so how are we, Fellas? Dave? You got I'm validated,

652
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: once again validated say about what Jimmer say did the

653
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: heat the hands refers to one week ago. I brought

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Speaker 1: up in the news room that Peyton Manning that this

655
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Speaker 1: is no fluke. And as I'm that Jimmer Say is

656
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Speaker 1: making these cracks against Peyton Manning, that this is not

657
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Speaker 1: an accident, that he brings up Tom Brady when he

658
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: really absolutely had no reason to involve Tom Brady in

659
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Speaker 1: the conversation somehow comparing measuring him in terms of rings

660
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Speaker 1: and everything else. And before I could get it out

661
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Speaker 1: of my mouth, hand Zeus and Westling jump all over

662
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Speaker 1: me and say, this is a non story. This is

663
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Speaker 1: the greatest non story. How can you indulge it? First

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Speaker 1: of all, even if it is complete phoniness, isn't the

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Speaker 1: can't we take at least that page from the w

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Speaker 1: W E and enjoy a little trash talk? Isn't that

667
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: what's fun? Isn't it fun that Steve Smith and generous

668
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Speaker 1: Jenkins have a blood feud? Now doesn't that make the

669
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Speaker 1: game a little more compelling? And see that's where I'll

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Speaker 1: stop you, because that's legit. Those are two guys for

671
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Speaker 1: whatever reason Jenkins got over got under Smith skin. Who's

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Speaker 1: a friend of the Dave Damsick Football program, Steve Smith. Yes,

673
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Speaker 1: we're definitely on team Smith on that. Yeah, I mean

674
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Speaker 1: that's legit and I love that. But I never not

675
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Speaker 1: a lot of people, and and really, when it comes

676
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Speaker 1: down to it, the only person I really needed my

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Speaker 1: corner is Al Michaels and Al was on team Zeus

678
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Speaker 1: and West on this issue. Can I trump you with one?

679
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: You know who's on my team? Jim Rsey's on my team.

680
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: Witnessed the fact that he opened the dome. He never

681
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Speaker 1: opens that dome, but all of a sudden Peyton Manning

682
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: shows up and he opens that dome. Why because he

683
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: knows Peyton won't like it? On Peyton Manning Night, Yes,

684
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Speaker 1: the night began with an attribute to uh to Peyton.

685
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: The night should have ended by the coach, fans standing

686
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Speaker 1: ovation for their owner because he got in Peyton's head.

687
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: But good, absolutely he did. And how can you argue

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Speaker 1: that special. I listened to your William Jennings Bryan styled

689
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Speaker 1: Dial Diet Tribe on your podcast last night while I

690
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: was cleaning my apartment, and again, you couldn't be more

691
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: wrong about this whole issue. Jim Ersay was completely talking

692
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Speaker 1: about his hands behind his head rocking the building his team.

693
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Speaker 1: This has been an incessant theme in Indianapolis all year.

694
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Speaker 1: He pet Hamilton's Ryan Grigson are talking about how they

695
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 1: want a well balanced team, they want power football, they

696
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: wanted defense and special teams. He ham fistedly brought up

697
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Speaker 1: Tom Brady not to get in Peyton Manning's head because

698
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Speaker 1: he wants the rest of the country to know this

699
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: is how the Colts are building their team. It is

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Speaker 1: a shot, but that doesn't happen in a vacuum. Understand,

701
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Speaker 1: the Peyton Manning uh career has been marked by teams,

702
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: but both franchises now have built the teams around Peyton

703
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Speaker 1: Manning specifically. This is not you know, I'm trying to

704
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Speaker 1: think of the comparison here. I don't know that there

705
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Speaker 1: is one really in the NFL over the last decade

706
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: that teams have been specifically built for one players skill set.

707
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: They have built the line, they have given him the

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Speaker 1: offensive weapons, like I say, from India and now in Denver.

709
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 1: The defense gets slept on a little bit as a

710
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Speaker 1: result of that. If you build it that way, then

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Speaker 1: Peyton must come through. That was the shot that Jim

712
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Speaker 1: Ursay was taking. We gave you everything we could possibly

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Speaker 1: have given you to succeed Peyton, and ultimately, yes, it

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Speaker 1: produced massive numbers, it did not yield enough tie. First

715
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: it was Jim RCA saying I messed up. I've learned

716
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Speaker 1: my lesson. I have a different philosophy on football now.

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Speaker 1: The one thing I agree with Damn A. Sicon is

718
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Speaker 1: there's no way he didn't get under Peyton manning skin.

719
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Speaker 1: I don't know if that affects the game at all,

720
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Speaker 1: but are you kidding me that Peyton Manning wouldn't be

721
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: totally aggravated by what he probably perceives as some joker writing,

722
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: you know, running this other organization. Who's you know coming up?

723
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Speaker 1: He's opening the room say the same way he viewed

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Speaker 1: Mike vander Jack, just idiots that he doesn't have to

725
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Speaker 1: deal with after that game was close friends for they're

726
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Speaker 1: actually close friends. Well maybe not. Listen, we're never gonna

727
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: agree on this, you know, but I thought we were

728
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Speaker 1: going But I like that we're all in the same

729
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: room together. Dave, you know that we love you. But

730
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: let's move forward, Okay, because Dave, would you sit in

731
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Speaker 1: on the rest of the pod with us. I will yes,

732
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: very exciting. So why don't we aim right after the show?

733
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Speaker 1: Let's move on stick a fork in. It's time to

734
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Speaker 1: stick a fork, um Dave. Every week. Now we're gonna

735
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Speaker 1: stick a fork in a team that we have decided

736
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: collectively has no chance of making the playoffs. Who have

737
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: we forked so far? We did the Jaguars and the

738
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: Buccaneers have been forked. They are forked, they are forked hard.

739
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: So now we're gonna fork someone else. Let me take

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Speaker 1: the Twitter. Wait, do you guys don't think the Bucks

741
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: are making the playoffs? Wait to stay tuned because it's

742
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 1: about to get juice. Here k Rich lies the St.

743
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: Louis Rams, who lost their brave battle with the two

744
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: thousand thirteen season the moment Sam Bradford's knee bent in

745
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 1: a direction God Forbids and Louis Flowers, please send prayers

746
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: to Rams fans. We must endure Kellen Clemens and Brady

747
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: Quinn for the next ten weeks. Mm hmm. Brady Quinn

748
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: does signal the time that the season is over? You

749
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: know this patriot st of lost seasons? We actually when

750
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Speaker 1: I was I was true, Really I wasn't initially on

751
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Speaker 1: board this because if you have three wins through seven weeks,

752
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 1: maybe it's a little premature. But I don't know, like

753
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: you said, when whenever Kellen Clemmons Brady Quinner involved, how

754
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: can we get behind the team when you decide you

755
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: don't want to take a chance on a Vince Young

756
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: or a Tim Tebow who we all know that wins

757
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: are simplistic stat but they've shown the ability to win

758
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,240
Speaker 1: at the NFL level, whereas Kellen Clemens and Brady Quinn

759
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: have shown the ability to author you through a lost

760
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: season so you can get a high draft. Let me

761
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 1: get this straight. Two months ago, Bernie Kozar speaks openly,

762
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 1: honestly about his analysts viewpoint of Kellen Clements. He's massacred.

763
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: We all, we all basically create that Kellen Clemons is

764
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: a total disaster season overput a forecast, unlike we did

765
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Speaker 1: not get Kellen clemmons family involved, which generous Jenkins now

766
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Speaker 1: knows is taboo. What is it? But what is the

767
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: fear that if you throw dirt on somebody and then

768
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 1: they rise up like a zombie, that you'll that they're

769
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 1: coming for your throat? Is that why you can't bury

770
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 1: a team that maybe it's a little closer to contention.

771
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,919
Speaker 1: What happened to us? We have to right, We're not

772
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Speaker 1: There is no more of this segment anymore, and we

773
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Speaker 1: all will be bas it was in the large form

774
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Speaker 1: last year, and we messed up on the Redskins. We

775
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Speaker 1: buried him, We stuck the fork. So we decided to

776
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Speaker 1: take it out of written form, bring it to the podcast,

777
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Speaker 1: and if we get another one wrong, it's over for

778
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Speaker 1: the stick of forking and your defense. Shanahan buried the Redskins,

779
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Speaker 1: imprompted you to bury I think, may I say what

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Speaker 1: if you did it like? Uh? You remember name that tune?

781
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: How they you would do the thing? Like I can

782
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 1: name it in five notes? I can name it four?

783
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: What have you? Guys challenged each other to say a

784
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: more outrageous team and see who can go the most aggressive,

785
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: and the first person to be wrong has to pay

786
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: a personal price, not just killing the segment. That's that's

787
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: a punishment for all of you. Why not punish the

788
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: one man who sticks his neck out too far? Can

789
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 1: you have more recent example here? Maybe Dollar Pyramids TV

790
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 1: used to be Gangbuster. You youngsters don't know what you

791
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: missed out on see um, that was your Albert Brier voice,

792
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: very similar. But what about like the Houston Texans. Can't

793
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: you throw dirt on them? They're done, there's no chancing. Maybe,

794
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: well what you'll what you'll see too. We're gonna get

795
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: these easy ones out of the way, but it's gonna

796
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: get tougher in the next three to four weeks. You know,

797
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to bear. They could get in it.

798
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: Their defense and their talent, they you don't think they

799
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 1: could get back in the mohing was a major loss

800
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: last year, So just transferring that from to this season

801
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Speaker 1: in case keenom periods they played great against the Chiefs.

802
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: This is the last time we're gonna be able to

803
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: talk about the Rams really in earnest all season enough,

804
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: Why don't we focus on the Rams anything we need

805
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: to say about them before you know, we put the

806
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: fork all the way in. I want to say one

807
00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: of the most troubling acts of the season was after

808
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Speaker 1: that Bradford torn a c l with Mike Mitchell celebrating

809
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: on I mean, he didn't know that he just knocked

810
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: the guy out of the year, but he did the

811
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 1: whole like stand up and thing right over him. As

812
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: their season crumbled. That's why all the Rams got kicked

813
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: out of the game for going crazy, So I can

814
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: see why they did that. They hold on. I watched

815
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: that game and when Sam Bradford went down, he like

816
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: landed on both needs. It looked looked like any other

817
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: fall on the sideline. It didn't look bad at all.

818
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: It was a horse collar right, No, he just pushed

819
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 1: out of it was a little defoe in platoon chasing him,

820
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: slugging him with bullets from behind. I've got all these

821
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: Rams fans and Panthers fans fighting on Twitter now, and

822
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: somehow I'm involved in it, and the Rams fans are

823
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,280
Speaker 1: accusing the Panthers of being classless. It was a clean

824
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: hit and it didn't look like Bradford was seriously injured.

825
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: So I don't know what the big hub of is.

826
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Speaker 1: You know, Dave, did you know that West is blocked

827
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Speaker 1: literally hundreds upon hundreds of people on Twitter. He's like

828
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Speaker 1: a serial killer. If I don't block at least a

829
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Speaker 1: couple of people a day, I don't feel right. Have

830
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Speaker 1: you blocked anyone day? What's your account? Do you think

831
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Speaker 1: I'll do it on occasion? But I enjoy the back

832
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: and forth with the people. You know. Yeah, I mean,

833
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: I like the you're an idiot, why oh you are?

834
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Speaker 1: You know, those kind of things. I like indulgent shutdown policy.

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Speaker 1: Well you're You're not the first, but it is. It's

836
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Speaker 1: a fun game to play. Yeah, you know, don't cross

837
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: the man. Well, I just my benchmark is is my

838
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: life worse for you being in it? And the answer

839
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Speaker 1: is yes, thing you're gone, that's true, that's true. Control

840
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: the things you can control and whatever the phrases. Hey,

841
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: but what about co Sel just more or less insinuated

842
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 1: as much the Tavan. Something I've been talking about the

843
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks is the Tavan Austin so called

844
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:43,280
Speaker 1: bust isn't on him, and it's probably not on Jeff Fisher,

845
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,439
Speaker 1: but it is on Brian Schottenheimer, who when you talk

846
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Speaker 1: to guys in the NFL now and you say, what

847
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: is the real what is the thing with the Rams?

848
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Speaker 1: Because again I think we I think the five of

849
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: us talked about this just before the season started off

850
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:58,919
Speaker 1: and I said, I think the Rams have a real

851
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,399
Speaker 1: shot at getting that that second seed in the postseason.

852
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: And the reason it's not working out isn't because of

853
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: Bradford the defense should be fine. It's Brian Schottenheimer, and

854
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: it's shocking to me until I realized, well, it happened

855
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 1: with the presidency of the United States, so why wouldn't

856
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: it happen in the NFL. But nepotism is a real thing.

857
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 1: I mean, Jay Gruden by all accounts, is completely out

858
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: of his depth as an offensive coordinator. That Wow, I'm

859
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: not gonna name names. I don't know if they want

860
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 1: me throwing their names out there with this, but believe me,

861
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: I've talked to a lot of people who would know

862
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: about such things, Guys who we work with, who have

863
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: been around him and been in been in the game,

864
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: and they say, he's just not up to uh snuff

865
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,399
Speaker 1: on that level. You're throwing Mariucci under the bus. I'm

866
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 1: throwing what And then the other guy is even though

867
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: the Panthers are playing well as Mike Schula, all three

868
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: of those guys have benefited from nepotism, and they all

869
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: said if you talk about them one by one, people

870
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: will tell you, oh, yeah, he's not very good. Jake

871
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,959
Speaker 1: Gruden is purely a product of his brother's success, which

872
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: seems insane to me. But this is this is what

873
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: people are telling and I could tell you as a

874
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: Jet fan who lived through the two thousand seven, four

875
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: and twelve season, the Kellen Clemens Brian Schottenheimer model is

876
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: not working. No, not successful, It's not effective. It's sad

877
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 1: that Tavon Austin's best game of the season included two fumbles.

878
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: That was last week's game. I mean that was his

879
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: best game. He had a play called back that wasn't

880
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: his fault. He made another play and that was it.

881
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 1: But he fought with twice so fairlyewill St. Louis rams

882
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,479
Speaker 1: until next year. Um, and we move on to really

883
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: the only reason I came into work today. Really, the

884
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: only thing I care about for my job is this game.

885
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 1: Get those production values on with the Dave Damn check

886
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: the segment Dave had a trivia question I did. I

887
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: thought of why. I realized this a little while ago,

888
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 1: about a week ago. UM, I will name drop. I

889
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: was talking to former New York Giants headman Jim Fossil,

890
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 1: and because I was, I was saying, it's where was

891
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: the That's what it is at the NFL network. You're

892
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: just walking the hall. It's like, hey, look it's LaDainian Tomlinson,

893
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: let's talk about NBA basketball for ten minutes, which in

894
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: fact happened yesterday, and informed conversation about why the West

895
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: is still better than the East. He's dropping Andrea Iguandala's

896
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 1: moved to Golden State as a reason why that team

897
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 1: is going to be a contender this year. Fascinating stuff

898
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: from a future Hall of Ously. This is also the

899
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: talent talent Did you did you let Tomlinson speak get

900
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: off during the conversation, I'm telling you. I walked by

901
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: a TV screen and there was it said something about

902
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: my seventies six percent of NBA g M say the

903
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: Heat are gonna win the title. I said, who are

904
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: these two that aren't picking? And that went into that

905
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: led him into his his length, the explanation why the

906
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: rest of the league has now caught up with the Heat.

907
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 1: But my question is I said that So I was

908
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: talking to Fossil, I said, it's funny. History seems to

909
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,959
Speaker 1: have forgotten. One of the weirdest upsets in recent memory

910
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,720
Speaker 1: to me is that you not only beat the Vikings

911
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: to get to the Super Bowl against the Ravens, but

912
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: you beat them forty one. Oh. This was this was

913
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: Dante Culpepper at his height, Randy Moss, Chris Carter, Robert Smith,

914
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 1: how did you beat them? Forty one? Oh? And as

915
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 1: we got into it, he dropped, he name dropped. Do

916
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: you know who is defensive coordinator? That's a little easier?

917
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,280
Speaker 1: And who his O C were? John Fox and Sean Payton.

918
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: Sean Payton is right. I was. I had no memory

919
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: of that whatsoever. I thought that was stuff. Well West

920
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: now intimidates me. I shouldn't have done this right in

921
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: front of playing for his toaster. Wow, that was a

922
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: statement by what that was? That was a warning. Okay,

923
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: so here we go. So what we're gonna do? We

924
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: have you back there? So who do we have? We

925
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: have two contestants today, right we do? Right now? We

926
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: have Neil Dutton on the line. Whoa infamous Neil? Hey, Neil,

927
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: what's up? Welcome to the A t L Podcast with

928
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 1: special Yeah, what's up? Man? Hey? Was Neil on the

929
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 1: Dave Damashek Football Program. This is now, this is apparently

930
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 1: now his second NFL media appearance, his second job podcast

931
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: visitor Neil. Dave Damashek is is sitting in on the game.

932
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: As if you needed more pressure to perform. You have

933
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: a straight up hero listening in the the the knaves

934
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 1: may overcome me. Oh wait, Neil's from Liverpool, right, yes, yes,

935
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: you could tell the dialect sounds exactly like yeah, like

936
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 1: Paul McCartney sixty three. Al Right, Neil, do you know

937
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: the rules of win West's Toaster? I think I will

938
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: go over them anyway. Um, it is a game of

939
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: skill and valor. It will be six questions. They are

940
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: the same six questions. First, I will ask the contestant, Neil.

941
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 1: Chris will go behind the glass. You will not be

942
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 1: able to hear your responses. Uh. You will give your answers, Neil.

943
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: It will be timed, and then I'll we'll stop the clock,

944
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 1: will bring weston. He'll answer the same questions, stop the clock.

945
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: Whoever has the most questions right either gets the toaster

946
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: or keeps it. And if you guys tie, the tiebreaker

947
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 1: is the clock how long it took you to answer

948
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 1: the question? And Mark Sessler is the clockman. This is

949
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 1: always a very exciting part of the game. And did

950
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 1: not go well the first week, it's going to go

951
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: well today. So Neil, is that all clear? Clear? Yep?

952
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: And you could pass and then if you if you

953
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 1: want to come back to one, you can. But keep

954
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: in mind that the clock counts in this game. So

955
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,240
Speaker 1: we're gonna send West out of the room. West be gone?

956
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: Is this a game of honor? Does he actually not

957
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 1: stand in the other room and listen to it? He

958
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: can here he's behind the glass and k Rich is

959
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 1: watching over it like a guard. Greg is completely silent.

960
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: Greg hates this game. I have tuned out. I'm rooting

961
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: for you, Neil, to end this long suffering segment that

962
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: keeps coming back. The pressure is just piling further. O

963
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: all right, Neil, So here we go. So I'll ask

964
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: you the questions, then you tell I'll ask you if

965
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: you want to stop the clock, and you tell me.

966
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: All right, Okay, here we go. What number did Jim

967
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,959
Speaker 1: Brown were with the Browns? Who holds the Super Bowl

968
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: record for most rushing yards in a game? Uh Twell Davis.

969
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: The Tennessee Oilers became the Tennessee Titans in what season?

970
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 1: Who has the most career catches in Cowboys history. Who

971
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: is the NFL's active leader in interceptions? Peyton? Who was

972
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: the m v P of Super Bowl forty three? But

973
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: between the Steelers and Cardinals. Ed Russels Baga, all right,

974
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 1: we'll stop the clock there, Strong, It was all right, Neil, Neil,

975
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 1: you've got zero. That's a zero. But let's not tell

976
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 1: Wes Neil just who knows. Well, let's paint it to

977
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 1: West accurately that it's your turn. Yeah, it is your turn. West.

978
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: Listen when I can tell you how Neil did. But

979
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: you better bring your game here. And those Brits are tough, alright, alright,

980
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 1: start the clock. What number did Jim Brown wear with

981
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: the Browns? Who holds a Super Bowl record for most

982
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: rushing yards in a game? Timmy Smith the Tennessee Oilers

983
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: became the Tennessee Titans, and what season? Who has the

984
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: most career receptions in Cowboys history. Michael Irvin, who is

985
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 1: the NFL's active leader in interceptions. Ed Reid, who was

986
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 1: the MVP of Super Bowl forty three between the Steelers

987
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: and Cardinals. James Harrison. Stop the clock, both of you,

988
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: miss Santonio. That was who I was debating. West. You've

989
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 1: got three and that was more than enough. Neil was

990
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 1: shut out. West keeps his toaster. Timmy Smith is still correct, right, Yes,

991
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: Timmy Smith was correct. The Oilers became the Titans of nine.

992
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: Jason Witten is the Cowboys all time receptions leader, and

993
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: uh yeah, s Antonio Holmes one super with the toe tap. Well.

994
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: Neil's answer of Peyton Manning with the most interceptions was interesting.

995
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,919
Speaker 1: He could file a complaint. It's kind of like when

996
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: Cliff Cleaven complained on Cheers. Well, Cliff Cleven reference when

997
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 1: we have Cliff when he when he went on Jeopardy

998
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: and his answer was who are three people that have

999
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 1: never been in my kitchen? And technically he was right

1000
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: getting with a temp of county gotta love it. Wait

1001
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: about that Manning the active leader and interceptions throne. That's

1002
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: what I was just going to say. I'm not sure

1003
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: that he's the leader. It's all move point. Neil. You

1004
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 1: did not win West's toaster, but thank you so much

1005
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: for playing. I have shaved my own colt. He still

1006
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: got the beatles. Man still got the beatles. All right,

1007
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 1: thank you for listening, and uh, have a good one then,

1008
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: thanks very much. Alright, West, that was essentially that was

1009
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 1: like a stretching exercise. Yeah, so, uh I missed Witten

1010
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 1: that one. I would have beaten you both, except that

1011
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 1: it's a little unfair because Jason, wait, and I didn't

1012
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: get the first go round. I misunderstood the question when

1013
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: you asked it to Neil. I did get it right

1014
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: in my brain. We have another caller on the line,

1015
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: don't we we do? Coming right up, Mrs excited. This

1016
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 1: one feels better. I feel you know, I love Neil,

1017
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 1: but he wasn't a real competitor in this game. I

1018
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: feel like we got one here by the way Carrick

1019
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: screened these contestants. All right, Next up on the line,

1020
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 1: we have Sean. Sean, how are you hey? Doing good?

1021
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 1: Great honor to talk to you, guys, huge fan off

1022
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal and Chris Westling from nearly ten years ago.

1023
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: So thank you, so Rhodo World fan. Not so much

1024
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: of cecil and hands stuff pretty much. We'll take and

1025
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: get Sean. Where are you calling from? I'm in Sacramento, California.

1026
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: I went to school in Wisconsin, and I'm very good.

1027
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: And if you're a Rodal World fan, you probably know

1028
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: your stuff. I would think I'm liking your chances alright, alright, so, Sean,

1029
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 1: do you know the rules of the game. I get

1030
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,399
Speaker 1: to win a coaster if I answer more questions than

1031
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: Chris and a minute. You got a minute and we'll go.

1032
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: And at the end of the six questions, we stopped

1033
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: the clock. That's the timebreakers. How long it takes you

1034
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,720
Speaker 1: to answer them. And to be clear, it's not any toaster.

1035
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,800
Speaker 1: It's a toaster that imprints an NFL logo on your toast.

1036
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: Any team you want to choose the team, different, different meals,

1037
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 1: different team. It's pretty good, basically magic. Yeah. West doesn't

1038
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: want to lose it. So West, can you step behind

1039
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 1: the glass again? Sean is going to now challenge you. Sean,

1040
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 1: just so you know, West has already taken down one

1041
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 1: competitor today you are the second and final contestant. So

1042
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 1: it's all writing a new no pressure though. Thanks all right?

1043
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:15,439
Speaker 1: Uh you ready? Here we go start the clock. Who

1044
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: played the halftime show? It's at the super Dome in

1045
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: two thousand two Super Bowl between the Patriots and Rams.

1046
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: You too. How many teams did Brett Farve play for Atlanta,

1047
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 1: Green Bay, the Jet and the Vikings Four? Name the

1048
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: two years Tom Brady won the NFL m v P

1049
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 1: two thousand seven, the NFL season two thousand seven and

1050
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: two thousand Uh, what was the name of the Raiders

1051
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,280
Speaker 1: center who went a wall before Super Bowl thirty seven?

1052
00:55:56,360 --> 00:56:01,800
Speaker 1: Oh boy? Um, can I come by? Yes? Who coached

1053
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: the Jets when they won Super Bowl three? Ten seconds? Now,

1054
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 1: I'll okay, that's it. Clock one minute? You got three? Right,

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Speaker 1: that's good. I thought you were gonna go for a

1056
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: sweep there you you got to five out of the

1057
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: good job, Sean. And now West is coming back in Sean,

1058
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 1: you just listen in the toaster is hanging in the

1059
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 1: balance as West sets down West. I want to say

1060
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: how Sean did, but he did better than Neil. That

1061
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:41,280
Speaker 1: could be a wide range. All right, start the clock, Okay?

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00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:43,879
Speaker 1: Who played the halftime show at the Superdome in two

1063
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 1: thousand two Super Bowl between the Patriots and Rams be

1064
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: like Britney Spears or somebody. I don't know any teams

1065
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: that Brett Fard play for? Three? Name the two years

1066
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,800
Speaker 1: Tom Brady won the NFL m v P two thousand seven,

1067
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 1: two thousand eleven. What was the name of the Raiders

1068
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,959
Speaker 1: center who went a wall before Super Bowl thirty seven?

1069
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,879
Speaker 1: Barrett Robbins who coached the Jets when they want Super

1070
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: Bowl three? London Fletcher is the NFL's active leader in

1071
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 1: consecutive games played, who is second? Huh Reggie Wayne stop

1072
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 1: the clock? Mm hmmm, you got two? Right? Oh you

1073
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: have one West's toaster? Can congratulations some seat. This segment

1074
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 1: has just been forked. And the best thing about this

1075
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 1: is that Mr Rosenthal had a Sessler about this. Right,

1076
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 1: wows are becoming legit? Wow? What just happened? Whatever? Fair question?

1077
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 1: Whenever Cessler gets these feelings sometimes, so we now call

1078
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 1: feeling sesslers. And that's the sound of a feeling. Sunday night,

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00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: after my correct cults to win prediction, I came out

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00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: with the Wesleyan's gonna lose his toast the prediction Sum

1081
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: you you did it, and I'll tell you what. You

1082
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: had three West Head too and West. If you would

1083
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: have gotten Eli Manning as second in consecutive games played

1084
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 1: active streak, you would have won on the tiebreaker because

1085
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 1: Seum took all the sixty seconds. But you couldn't get it.

1086
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: And now you don't own that toasting. Can you tell

1087
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: me the correct answers? Okay, here we go. The Sean

1088
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: got the first one, right. It was you two that

1089
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: played the post Bowl. By the way, I think that

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00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 1: that's the one that's the that's the shameful one. I

1091
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 1: I West, you're a football guy. It's not your obligation

1092
00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: to know that. I will gets question for two reasons.

1093
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 1: Number one, Bono's my boy. But number two, I knew

1094
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: that would drive you crazy, so it does it. I

1095
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 1: would rather be asked the corporate name of a stadium

1096
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 1: then who played halftime? Is the next is the next

1097
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 1: round gonna be? Which Bosom was exposed by Janet Jackson

1098
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. Any question that black Eyed Peas

1099
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 1: could possibly be an answer to should not be. This

1100
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: is the one that really caught you. Though Brett Farve

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00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 1: played Teams four Teams Brady two thousand seven and two

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00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 1: thousand ten, So let's not put this on Bonno on

1103
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 1: the edge. There were a lot of great answers here

1104
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: that you should have had. I thought, Baron Robbins you had,

1105
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: uh you bank you got, but Eli so um Sean.

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00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: Congratulations again. K Rich will be in touch with you

1107
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 1: via the social media machine to get you your toaster,

1108
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 1: which you now own. Congrats some wow very much so

1109
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 1: so does this big come a recurring segment where enough

1110
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: people have to try and win Sham's toast. We're gonna

1111
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 1: have to talk about that. Actually, I think it's at

1112
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 1: the very least the rematch. Possibly. Yeah, I'll be the

1113
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: first one up on your show. Um, alright, Sean, thanks

1114
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 1: again and congratulations, Thank you guys. Yes you will like

1115
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 1: Neil never eat toast again. Now I feel like never again. Also,

1116
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:22,919
Speaker 1: I would like to invent a game show where Dan

1117
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 1: answers the questions and I get to make up the questions.

1118
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: He's salty. The bottom line here is that Sean was

1119
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: asked the same questions and he actually got that question

1120
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 1: right and it didn't cost you was it was three

1121
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 1: questions that you could have had it just it is

1122
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 1: what it is. That way it works. Now, let me

1123
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 1: ask you a question before we go check. Do you

1124
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 1: want to challenge Wes. I'd love the challenge him. I'd

1125
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 1: love nothing more. Let me ask you guys this more

1126
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 1: open ended type of question though. And by the way,

1127
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 1: I did notice that Rosenthal is one of the very few,

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Speaker 1: if the only guy I saw out there who picked

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01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 1: the Colts, So kudos to him. That was a that

1130
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 1: was a savvy pick um. Even with my peytent predictions,

1131
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 1: I felt prey to thinking this is one he's gonna

1132
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: show up and really torments or say for trying to

1133
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 1: get under his skin. Let the in the copycat league.

1134
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 1: Now the blueprint has been shown. This is mess with

1135
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 1: Peyton and it will probably undo him a little bit more. Um,

1136
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 1: what if shame the devil if we ever get a

1137
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning versus Tony Romo Super Bowl? Because neither one

1138
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 1: of them comes through in the clutch. So by definition,

1139
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 1: the game would never end. It would just go on

1140
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 1: and on over time after overtime, Goodbye St. Patrick's Day

1141
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 1: because we're spending it at the Meadowlands. Summertime would come

1142
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 1: and go, let's watch the fireworks from the stands. We

1143
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 1: have no choice. The games still going season would try

1144
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 1: to begin, but the Jets and Giants wouldn't have access

1145
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 1: to their own stadium because Tony and Peyton would still

1146
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 1: be going head to head. Who would win that game?

1147
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 1: This would be uh, This would be like Marti Grolf

1148
01:01:55,760 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 1: for the Damnit Check podcast of Rank Hanking and and Check,

1149
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 1: just going on about this great turn of events and

1150
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 1: national holiday. I even I'm sick of talking about it now.

1151
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 1: All right, So this is this is barreling towards our

1152
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 1: longest podcast ever. So why don't we buy a long shot.

1153
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 1: Why don't we do it? Um West, you care to

1154
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 1: step out one more time? Scream? You know this is

1155
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 1: a little what's at stake here? Just pride. Obviously there's

1156
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 1: no toaster anymore, but to squash the beef between us

1157
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 1: and Damnis X podcasts that we're doing a podcast as

1158
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 1: long as one of yours. I thought we were going

1159
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 1: to start to do. I thought we were going to

1160
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 1: start to do the so called cross talk that as

1161
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 1: we departed or as you departed and we entered, that

1162
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 1: we would start to black tie. Black Tie talked that up. Um,

1163
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 1: so maybe maybe we got to get him. Uh, I

1164
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:47,439
Speaker 1: would enjoy it, and may I plug that we had

1165
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 1: one of our very favorites. Ryan Clark joined us and

1166
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 1: he discussed a full range of issues regarding this dealers

1167
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 1: and beyond. He's a great one that Ryan Clark. Yeah,

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01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 1: oh yeah, he doesn't put Unlike most NFL guys, if

1169
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 1: you start talking about other teams, they quickly demure because

1170
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 1: they know they shouldn't talk about it. Not Ryan Clark.

1171
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: He'll talk about Brandon Merryweather and his opinions on why

1172
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 1: the way he hits people and what goes on in

1173
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 1: other locker rooms. He's he's quite frank. Give it a listen,

1174
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 1: won't you? We shall all right, so let's get this going.

1175
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 1: I'm ready. Here we go. Uh. Who was the quarterback

1176
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 1: when the Browns won their last playoff game in um pass?

1177
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna think of it. Well, I know I can pack.

1178
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 1: Only one player is one comeback Player of the Year

1179
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 1: honors twal come, Kelly Holcom. Only one player is one

1180
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 1: comeback Player of the Year honors twice? Who is it

1181
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 1: Joe Montana who started the last regular season game for

1182
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 1: the Colts before Andrew Luck took over to start the

1183
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 1: two thousand twelve season. M Um, Curtis Painter. I know

1184
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 1: that's not right, but who is the Raiders leading rusher

1185
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 1: in season? That's pre Chaz Garner? Um pass? Name the

1186
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 1: two players that have named? Two teams that have never

1187
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 1: played in the Super Bowl the This will be a

1188
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 1: humiliation if I can't get this one, um, the Jags

1189
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 1: and the Browns. Alright, stop the clock. It took the

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01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 1: full minute. Only got five of the questions. Who was

1191
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 1: really Wait, isn't the last question that you said fatally flawed?

1192
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 1: Since there's way more than two teams? What do you

1193
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 1: mean like two of the teams. Alright, I have, I have.

1194
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 1: I've answered after his just to take a guess, but

1195
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 1: that's when I get the answers to here we go.

1196
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 1: You're right, I'm already done. Yep. Who was the quarterback

1197
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 1: when the Browns won their last playoff game? In any Testaverdy,

1198
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 1: only one player is one? Comeback Player of the Year

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01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 1: honors twice? Who is it pass? Who started the last

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01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 1: regular season game for the Colts before Andrew Luck took

1201
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 1: over to start the two thousand twelve season, Dan Orlovsky?

1202
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 1: Who's the Raiders leading rusher in the season? Bow Jackson?

1203
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 1: Name two teams that have never played in the Super Bowl?

1204
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 1: Jaguars and Mark Sessler's Browns. What's the name of the

1205
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 1: Cowboys home stadium? Again? A T and T stop the clock.

1206
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 1: I would like to retroactively guess. Marcus Allen came back

1207
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 1: said uh, I never came back and said comeback player

1208
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 1: of the Year. I wasn't listening close enough. Any test

1209
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 1: of Averdi beat the beat? Whoever to get to the Steelers.

1210
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 1: Here's your hintime comeback player of the Year. It's an

1211
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 1: obvious Dan question. Chat West got four correct one which

1212
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 1: you're no Sea plus there, and they're like seven teams

1213
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 1: that haven't played in the Super Bowl. They just wanted to.

1214
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 1: Of the Texans, I got that one right, and there's

1215
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 1: only four, but they've never played anyway. So that's the

1216
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 1: only one I got. Correct. Yeah, that's the only one

1217
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 1: he got. That's a shame. I feel sad. Does anybody

1218
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 1: in this room know who's in that black and white photograph?

1219
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 1: A Tampa Bay buccaneer wearing the old cream sickle uniform

1220
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 1: number fifty three? Incorrect. I'll give you a great clue.

1221
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 1: Came in second in the Heisman balloting, nearly one. It

1222
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 1: was the first really hyped defensive player to take a

1223
01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 1: run at winning the Heisman Trope. No, uh, let's see.

1224
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 1: I believe he's passed away. Correct. Wow, this is a

1225
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 1: very Dave kind of question. Pittsburgh centric. I wonder what

1226
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 1: the listeners Ugh green Um, Okay, So that wraps up

1227
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:16,479
Speaker 1: the podcast. We will be back on Friday. We're gonna

1228
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 1: go over in Thursday night game of preview all the

1229
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Speaker 1: Sunday games. Dave, thank you so much. Thank you fellas

1230
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 1: uh and listen to my podcast. By my performance, Listen

1231
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 1: to the Dave Damage like football program, um uh two

1232
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 1: times a week, and you also have the Zech Report,

1233
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 1: the NFL, all the great stuff. Um, this is Dan

1234
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Speaker 1: handis signing off for the mailman, the Sizzler, the Boss

1235
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 1: came Ridge behind the glass, and of course Lyle the

1236
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Speaker 1: intern until Friday,