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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is the

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Speaker 1: Players Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at

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Speaker 1: the Star. Now your hosts, Barry Church, Danny mccraig, and

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Speaker 1: Newe Scrugs go time here on a Monday. It is

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Speaker 1: the Players Lounge and where the two players are. Danny

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Speaker 1: mccraigs got the day often we got buried. Church undrafted

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Speaker 1: free age attists here. I am merely Newi Scrugs coming

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Speaker 1: off a fantastic night of Russell made I wish I

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Speaker 1: was an attendances at and T Stadium. I was there

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Speaker 1: where it took my kid. Chris Beam, our producer, was there.

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Speaker 1: He took his son to it. It was fun. Man,

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Speaker 1: was it as electric as the atmosphere's made it seem like?

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Speaker 1: I mean, because old TV is like it was just

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Speaker 1: off the chain. It's an amazing show. And what I

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Speaker 1: liked about taking my daughter, she's not a wrestling fan

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Speaker 1: at all. Okay, this is your youngest one, Noah. That

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Speaker 1: was my middle fifteen year old and I and I

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Speaker 1: just said, it's just going to be a show, and

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Speaker 1: it's a male soap opera. So I would explained a

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Speaker 1: couple of things where like this is the Edge and

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Speaker 1: he's a Hall of Fame wrestler, and so I was,

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Speaker 1: that's Vince McMahon. He owns the company. And so I

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Speaker 1: walked her through different people about what happened, but just

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Speaker 1: the pyrotechniques and just the way they got after the intros.

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Speaker 1: You know, the juice is gonna be live on the intros.

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Speaker 1: Man gotaby so it was it was great man, and

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Speaker 1: it's it's and and I told her, I said, this

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Speaker 1: is the super Bowl of wrestling. It is. And I

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Speaker 1: said this is their big event. It's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: great show. And I said, you don't need to know anything.

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Speaker 1: I said at the end of the night, trust me,

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Speaker 1: you will just say this was cool, which she did, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: which she did. I don't know how well. I do

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Speaker 1: know how working at NBC Peacock. So they streamed it

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Speaker 1: on the Peacock. So they had a suite. Gave me

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Speaker 1: um a ticket to come out to the Sweet and

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Speaker 1: I said, can I get extra ticket? Make sure? So

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Speaker 1: we go there. They fit us for cowboy boots. Man

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Speaker 1: like like you talking about the Okay, let me slad

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Speaker 1: these bad boys up. Okay, yeah, so all right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'renna pitch you for cowboy boots. We will sent to

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Speaker 1: the house. Hey, you can't win. You talk about a

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Speaker 1: gift bag. Oh that's a gift that's a swag bag. Man.

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Speaker 1: Sure they had tucked they talked to because our suite

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Speaker 1: didn't have that. So then it was decked out like

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Speaker 1: the TV show Yellowstone. So it had a whole western

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Speaker 1: cowboy boots and so um so we got that food

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Speaker 1: was over there. They had a whole bunch of bourbon tasting,

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Speaker 1: so it was all the bourbons tasting as well as

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Speaker 1: through there for the forty nine ers. He got fitted

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Speaker 1: for boots. Several um w W superstars came through, like Sasha.

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Speaker 1: Whole bunch of folks came through. They would getting fitted

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Speaker 1: for boots. Zeke was supposed to be there. Zeke Allick

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Speaker 1: was supposed to be there, and he didn't. He never

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Speaker 1: rolled through, but he was there at Russell. I see

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Speaker 1: looking for him, so he missed his prepair of boots. Man,

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Speaker 1: boots was not this is the sweet I need to

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Speaker 1: be in. Y'all got superstars coming in, NFL celebrities coming

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Speaker 1: in getting boots bourbon tasting while watching the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: of Wrestling at Jerry World. Man at Jerry World, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you can't beat it. You can't eat it, Mike, I

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Speaker 1: mean I looked like the good cool dad. I bet

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Speaker 1: was that. So this dude right here as an actor

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Speaker 1: on Yellow Stones, Yeah, that's the He was the rand

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Speaker 1: the Sweet. Yeah that's his name. I said, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I look like the absolute cool dad. Now here's the

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Speaker 1: crazy thing. I asked my first, my seventeen year old ago.

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Speaker 1: all right, you know. So the lifetime event right here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so it was cool, man, and just the whole the

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Speaker 1: whole atmosphere of of what wrestling is. And they got

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Speaker 1: a show tonight over the American Center, Dallas and raws

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Speaker 1: war to the um. Just how many people, especially sports

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Speaker 1: they love it. Man. And then Pat McAfee got out there, right,

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Speaker 1: he got stole, he got stone cold, stunned up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: He was good. He's gonna let your find type of person. Man.

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Speaker 1: That was really good. He's in this space right there. Man. Man,

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Speaker 1: shock's done in a couple of times. But man, Pat mcafe,

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Speaker 1: was absolutely fun. So man, great great show out there.

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Speaker 1: By the way, today's April four. So clubs that hired

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Speaker 1: new head coaches they started. Yeah, man, they get the

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Speaker 1: that's already April New jeez. Yeah, they perform Man drafted

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Speaker 1: They're gonna start Captain's work out here, you know, and

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Speaker 1: starting when the Cowboys start rolling. So on they're working.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, man, we're getting into this mix here. And

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Speaker 1: so let's let's just ask the question right here. All

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Speaker 1: of in exchange, and you can also get addressed that

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Speaker 1: as of right now, did this team get any better

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Speaker 1: Randy Gregory. People in Denver expecting this guy to come

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Speaker 1: and versus his role and how he was used here.

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Speaker 1: It's different. Randy was a piece. He wasn't the straw

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Speaker 1: stirring the drink, good football player. But there, you know,

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Speaker 1: when they're expecting him to be this sack master, like

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Speaker 1: dude that six sacks last year. He was hurt though,

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Speaker 1: but that's a part. But that's who he is. Duran's

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Speaker 1: Armstrong had five sacks. But I'm just saying it's that

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Speaker 1: Michael Parks is at thirteen. So okay, So if you're playing,

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Speaker 1: if Michael's out here getting thirteen, you won on one.

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Speaker 1: You're supposed to be ball San Francisco, Okay, tanks playing

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Speaker 1: Michael Parts is playing Jimmy Groco. Garoppolo got a bad thumb.

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Speaker 1: that San Francisco, right, But it was all getting bullied

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Speaker 1: on five year, seventy million. I just don't I I

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Speaker 1: thought that was too much money for that. With that

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Speaker 1: thirty years old this year. You expect him to be

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Speaker 1: think he can be a double digit sack guy. I'm

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Speaker 1: he was gonna be a cap castul to be honest

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Speaker 1: with the owner out here thirst trapping for Deshaun Watson

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Speaker 1: all year long. They lucky too. Ain't like Baker do it? Man?

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Speaker 1: You know dumb doube it did? I did worry they

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Speaker 1: would have been at you know, So I mean this

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Speaker 1: is they've got out. You know, they trying all this

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Speaker 1: stuff and where has it gotten? The Miami Dolphins hasn't

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Speaker 1: got him anywhere now right now? No, No, it hasn't.

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Speaker 1: And I when the Bobby Wagner contract came out there,

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Speaker 1: you know, five or fifty, you know, Clarence Hill, cowboy

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Speaker 1: beat riding? How come they keep having money here? Um? Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: um that here's something that I mean if I feel

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Speaker 1: like all of these teams, like where's this money coming from?

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Speaker 1: The rams? Done? I mean they got everybody, this is

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437
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Speaker 1: over there right now? Hey man, you got Alan Robinson

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Speaker 1: over there. I mean they robbed it. They still tell

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Speaker 1: about we might show tyno Delle two, Like is the

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Speaker 1: cap real? Like I'm just like this, are these guys

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Speaker 1: Like what's going on? Man? It's a trip? Man? So

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Speaker 1: we trade them over a fifth rock? Well okay, all right?

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Speaker 1: So so Clarence put that out there. Clarence Hill start telegram,

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Speaker 1: put that out there too. Here's why he was traded

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Speaker 1: for a five. You had to take the contract with them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what's just hefty? Okay, it's you got three that's sixty million.

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Speaker 1: So when you talk about old Vante Parker went to

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Speaker 1: from the Miami to New England, he didn't take sixty

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Speaker 1: million dollars with himselso gave him a third way it

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Speaker 1: was Parker, and was it Parker and a fifth you

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Speaker 1: gotta three but but but just overall is you got

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Speaker 1: the player. He doesn't have sixty millions. So it's just

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Speaker 1: like a baseball trade. How much more money's attached to

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Speaker 1: a lessons what you're going to get. This is true too.

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Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, the Cowboys let everybody know, hey,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna let him go, and they were under the deadline.

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Speaker 1: So because there was a deadline to where if he

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Speaker 1: gets if he's on his team, let's just say March,

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Speaker 1: whatever he would have, they would have guarantee his kind.

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Speaker 1: So they had to hustle. Hustling, so everyone knows. There's

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Speaker 1: no secrets. Everyone knows it. So you're not gonna be

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Speaker 1: yourself because everybody knows, Hey, you don't want to get

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Speaker 1: you're not trying to pay the twenty. Same thing was

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Speaker 1: going on with Baker right now, cats ain't trying to

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Speaker 1: pay that nineteen. Why would't you in the high you

468
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Speaker 1: get stuck with the bill anyway. So so that's the

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Speaker 1: part to me that's so fresh training at times as

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Speaker 1: fans don't want to understand the business end of this,

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Speaker 1: that it is not all apples to apples with these

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Speaker 1: deals and understanding where they're deadlines and when roster bonuses

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Speaker 1: are due, you can't negotiate it. And sometimes you could

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Speaker 1: do what the Falcons did with Matt Ryan and say, hey,

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Speaker 1: can you push this thing back a little bit, and

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Speaker 1: they did it with the full intention, Look, let's push

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Speaker 1: this thing back so we can get you a good

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Speaker 1: trade and we're trying to find you something that works

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Speaker 1: for you, which they've worked it out for him to

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Speaker 1: go to Indianapolis. So that was how he was, Okay, fine,

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Speaker 1: I'll move it because we're going to work together to

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Speaker 1: get a deal there. All right, Cooper, won't try to

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Speaker 1: move nothing. No, no, you owe me this money on

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Speaker 1: right right right, you're about to get this. And plus

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Speaker 1: they had control. Cowboys had control, likes send where they

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Speaker 1: wanted to. So so that whole premise of man, you

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Speaker 1: wasn't that wasn't the case. And that's the part that

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Speaker 1: gets frustrating at times, because you want to get on

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493
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Speaker 1: know what you're doing. They announced it well, and they

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Speaker 1: got cap oologists too. They know Cooper's got this money

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Speaker 1: due on this day. We know you don't want to

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Speaker 1: pay it because you're in cap hell. You got cap

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Speaker 1: problems too. You always take I'll do you five because

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Speaker 1: I gotta take the sixty. You won't get this five.

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Speaker 1: You want to go ahead and cut him for nothing

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Speaker 1: and get nothing. Oh and so yeah, now you're sitting here,

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Speaker 1: you've got a bunch of fives. And Mick Shots did

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Speaker 1: Shots did a great job. Or talking about because of COVID,

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Speaker 1: a lot of guys who had an extra year. Now

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Speaker 1: these guys are all coming out, so you get a hold.

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Speaker 1: There's a whole flood market of players. And so what

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Speaker 1: past years, you you're gonna get some guys who could

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Speaker 1: possibly fourth rounders in the fifth. Those Caps got four

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Speaker 1: four fifths, so you can actually get some good players.

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Speaker 1: You can even use a fifth round on the kicker.

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Speaker 1: It just depends. At the end of the day. All

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Speaker 1: those guys go, we gotta hit, you gotta hit the draft,

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Speaker 1: which they've done. I don't think we can complain about

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Speaker 1: Will Will drafting guys. He's been hidden. I mean you

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Speaker 1: I would say from for him, you say took him

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Speaker 1: a little bit. I come back into you had Jason

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Speaker 1: all times. Everybody wasn't coming in there. You had Jarwin

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Speaker 1: out of fives. Can this to get back to the

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Speaker 1: giving you're giving good players great contracts, or you're giving

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00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: good players who had a great ear a long contract.

633
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: DeMarco Murray. DeMarco Murray had a great ear NFL offensive players,

634
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: but he was not a great running back. Great benefit

635
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: of hilacious offensive line, right right, and so so that

636
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: so all right, Byron Jones, a guy we all like,

637
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: man for your former teammate, Byron Jones is a good

638
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: football player who got a great contract right out of

639
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: the gate free agency. That's what happened so many times.

640
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: So the Cowboys have decided we've gone there, We're not

641
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: going to go do that. Meanwhile, the Dolphins keep on

642
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: doing that. Remember the game and dollar cans two one

643
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars that work out. Mike Tanneman got fired.

644
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: So so you start to see some of these people

645
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: who who want to keep participating and they still participating,

646
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: they still there, and they're doing that route right now,

647
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: they're doing that round and it's not working out for him.

648
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: And like I I don't guarantee that you know, doing

649
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: going that route and being a flashy with free agency,

650
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: we'll guarantee wins or anything like that. Maybe even the

651
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: or the training just bring it in. I think sometimes

652
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: you just it can't be all homegrown. You can't just

653
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: rely strictly on the draft. I'll come back into this

654
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: and I'll just give you a team that it's not

655
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: doing this, who's really good The Chiefs. Look at the

656
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: last five year run. The Chiefs have been on here.

657
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: They're not out here in free agency doing all this,

658
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: and so much of what they have has been homegrown.

659
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: Or they've made trades for guys. It made trades defensively

660
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: for like Frank Clarks. So they can't we do that.

661
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: That's it doesn't have to be free agency. It could be.

662
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: It could be the trade aspect as well. Right, So

663
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: they're they're they're doing that. So that's one way you

664
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: could do something. Now the Buffalo Bills, here's a team

665
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: that you know, thirteen seconds away from you know, going

666
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: to the championship. They did it through the draft. The

667
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: Bengals did it through the draft. Now you look at

668
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: the second they picked up some dogs and free agency.

669
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: Look at the forty nineties and what they did the

670
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: forty nine ers. You know, they made a lot of

671
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: very good move So it's been, it's been done. Now

672
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: Here's my problem with the Cowboys. It's not the approach.

673
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: My problem with the Dallas Cowboys is you've got too

674
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: many people walking around here like they've won a championship

675
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: and they haven't won a darn thing around here. That's

676
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: the problem. Guys thinking and reading the clips. Oh oh boys, No, no, bro,

677
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: you want nothing. Yeah, you got pictures around here are

678
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: some of these guys like they Okay, you got dudes

679
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: who went to one or two Pro Bowls acting like

680
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: they Hall of Famer, ring up hunter guys. And a

681
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: part of the problem is the owner, who who sets

682
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: the tone. I'll never forget when the Cowboys got their

683
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: NBC game canceled. Yeah, the sty night, I think it

684
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: was night you got canceled. And Jaylen Smith was like,

685
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: hey man, the owner's not tripping. Why y'all tripping? That

686
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: was said? That was said, what what we got your

687
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: boy Javier Woods, Hey man, he can't go hard every

688
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: play and nobody comes out and you know, calls him out.

689
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: Now you look at your boy, Jim Ursay with the coats.

690
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: He came out, said he man, Carson was that guy? Man?

691
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: I heard that. I talked to some people stuff. I heard.

692
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: It was disturbing. He had to go call these people

693
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: out when you see it. So so so you're you're so,

694
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: you're saying that the the problem is it's not account

695
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: of people comfortable around. They're just too real comfortable. So

696
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: what did we see last year? Defense? I like what

697
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: they did last year? They brought people people weren't comfortable, right,

698
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: people weren't Was it how many draft picks were defense

699
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: nine or ten or something like that. I mean, we

700
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: had at people were fighting for the jobs. So we've

701
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: seen what happened to the defense side of the football.

702
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: So Jaylen Smith went from being all it's too comfortable

703
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: to being gone, yeah, boys were fighting for their jobs

704
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: out vander Esch went from you know, guy who had

705
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: one Pro Bowl year and he's the Wolf Funner. This

706
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: is at to you. Now, hey man, we're not picking

707
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: up this deal. You're gonna have to go out here

708
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: and ball. He's gonna have to and you know he

709
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,479
Speaker 1: got a new deal. But it's like, that's not I mean,

710
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: but but I'm just saying to me, that's to me

711
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: when I think about the cultural issue here, and even

712
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: got Emmy Smith saying it so it's not just men,

713
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: oh you got Emmy Smith and other people saying hey man,

714
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: you got you got. There's too much of an entitlement

715
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: factor around here, which you just say, hey man, look

716
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: at No, No, that's the problem. The University of Texas.

717
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: You got a guy's running we're Texas Now, that doesn't

718
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: mean nothing. You gotta go out here and earn this,

719
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: earn this thing. And you know, one playoff birth or

720
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: two playoffs that doesn't do it. One or two pro

721
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: doesn't do it. It doesn't make you. And it doesn't

722
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: make you Choye or dort Set or Randy White or

723
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: ray Field, I mean Randy White Rayfield, right, I mean

724
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,439
Speaker 1: does that make you any of these guys? Man? There's

725
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: too many dudes who need to put in some more work.

726
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: They got to, They got to. Mike McCarthy would be wise,

727
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: in my opinion, to call some people out more. Yea

728
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 1: Bruce Arius calling out Tom Brady, man. And it can't

729
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: just be the guys that are you know, you know, rookies,

730
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 1: or these guys that are you know, coming in doing

731
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: spot duties. Sometimes you gotta call out those leaders. The

732
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: stars gotta get called out to Greg Papavinch had no

733
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: problem doing in San Antonio. How many rings he got,

734
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, get on, Tom Brady. You gotta be able,

735
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: gotta hold everybody accountable, or nobody's gonna be accountable for nothing.

736
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: And then at the end of the day, that's that's

737
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: what it's gonna have to come down to the So

738
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 1: what didn't we see after the playoff game? Jerry Jones

739
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: came out based he was he was disappointed. Bec are right,

740
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: and and what bothered me was the players even now

741
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: after the playoff loss, and you know, after the playoff

742
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 1: or regular season losses, what did you hear from the

743
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: locker room. Oh, we gotta go against two teams, the

744
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: refs and the team we're playing against. You know, we

745
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: gotta do this. It's just like it's cut. There's never

746
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: you know, I gotta play better, I gotta be the guy.

747
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: So it's none of that right now. So that's why

748
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I don't talk to me about the approach,

749
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 1: talk to me about the accountability and guys walking around

750
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: here as though they've won something and it hasn't happened

751
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 1: to me. The standard is dropped. Can you change that

752
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: without bringing in veteran leaderships from the outside, Like if

753
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: you if you keep bringing guys in from the draft

754
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: and keep doing his homegrown approach where the only thing

755
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: they know is the Cowboys way, can you really change

756
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 1: that culture in there without bringing in some veteran free

757
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: agents out there or some veteran guys from that are

758
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: outside the organization that can maybe shed light on the

759
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: c these new guys and show them the way to

760
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: actually be like professional and b you hold everybody accountable

761
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: and maybe get him over the help. Like I said,

762
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that'll work either, But I'm looking to

763
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: the head coach for this. Yeah, you got to I'm

764
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: looking to the head coach. Now, what are you gonna do.

765
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: You're gonna allow guys to keep running out here and

766
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: blaming the refs and jumping off side and all these

767
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: penalty where you know, to me, then what starts with you?

768
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: You know, Mike is always fun and saying he knows

769
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: how to win a Super Bowl. He's done it. Okay,

770
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: you can't win a Super Bowl being the highest penalized

771
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:27,879
Speaker 1: team in the game. You can't win a Super Bowl

772
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: with with with twelve penalties in the playoffs, can't with

773
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: Super Bowl when you're going down and you got you

774
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: can't get a snap off at the end of the game.

775
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: I mean, so I'm gonna go to the head coach

776
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: to say, when are you going to set your own

777
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: standard that these guys have to understand it's not good

778
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: enough because you're about to fire you if you don't

779
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: have a great season. He got to go to he

780
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 1: has to go. He has to have a hell of

781
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: a season. In my opinion, he gotta have a hell

782
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 1: of right or Sean Payton or Game Quinn is gonna

783
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: be coaching the Sea next year. The owners eighty years old,

784
00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 1: so he's not going to sit around. He can't wait.

785
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 1: He he wants now. He wants results now, right. So

786
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: so that so when we talk about the approach, the

787
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: approach that I see and how they build their team

788
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: is at my issue. It's how it's how these guys

789
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: are more styled than substance, more flashing the pain around.

790
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: The hot boys. Come on, man, man, what a hot boys? One?

791
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: They ain't one. They haven't won. They haven't won. So

792
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: and then you hear Cheeto, Okay, listen to Cheeto's words

793
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: and what he talked about going to Cincinnati basically Cheeto said, man,

794
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: we appeared by football. M Yeah, I can see that though,

795
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: Like I mean, we see it all the time. Like

796
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: you said, when the whole Jalen Smith thing, you know,

797
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 1: like the owner ain't tripping, we ain't tripping. That's just

798
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: something that's not an approach you can have as a

799
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 1: player going into the games. Had out hot boys chains,

800
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: what you want, I mean, you ain't want nothing. So

801
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: so yeah, that's why I that's my issue. Just Okay,

802
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: we got too many guys walking around here acting like

803
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: they've won something and they they've nothing. Has been one

804
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: of significance. The standard is dropped around here, and if

805
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: the owner and the head coach aren't calling it out,

806
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: I'm sorry because like you said, everybody, the leaders on

807
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 1: the squad supposedly are all homegrown and they're all you know, hey,

808
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: they've been stuck in the same way. You know, the

809
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: owner and driven. I ain't driven, and you get you

810
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: just can't have that approach because at the end of

811
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: the day, you know, you know, the owners may own

812
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: the team and the coaches may coach it, but the

813
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: players have got to take it upon themselves to go

814
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: out there and get the job done. We can't rely

815
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: on anybody else. You got to go out there and

816
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 1: get the job. Then that was my drumbeat for Vaughan Miller.

817
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,959
Speaker 1: Go get me somebody who can walk into the room,

818
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: who's got rings that can tell you your standard and

819
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: your accountability is not where it needs to be to

820
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,280
Speaker 1: go here, because he's been, he's been to the tops,

821
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 1: and so who's in this room right now that's going

822
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: to sit up here? And you know who's setting the standard?

823
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: I don't see anybody right now, okay, because if you

824
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at thy Smith, who's you know,

825
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, resume and all that stuff. If if

826
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: you miss certain amount of games, I don't care who

827
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: you are. Players are gonna it's gonna go on one

828
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 1: ear and out to the other. And he's not vocal

829
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: to begin with anyway. So it's I mean, it's who

830
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: do you look at, Zach Marty. He's not really that

831
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 1: vocal guy either. I mean, I know you got Dak

832
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: out there, but at the end of the day, has

833
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: he really gotten too that mountaintops? When do you get

834
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: sick and tired of being sick and tired? When do

835
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: you get tired of watching I mean, I will, I

836
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: don't know about you. Once again, you've played this game,

837
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: but to watch another team walk out on that football

838
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: field with a boom box, you know what, an old school,

839
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: big time giant boom box to walk to the field for.

840
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 1: That was the first time that did that. You do

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Speaker 1: realize that, right? Who Yeah, I just you know they

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Speaker 1: did that every game. Okay, that was the that was

843
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: their bit. Okay, just letting you know it was. That

844
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Speaker 1: was not just now they video for the playoffs, but

845
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Speaker 1: but now at their stadium, there's there's stuff when they

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Speaker 1: did at every time they walked out there with a

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850
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Speaker 1: got the football, and then they just beat you up

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Speaker 1: they set the tone. So we're gonna walk out with

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857
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Speaker 1: in here. We're gonna punch in the out pop and

858
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Speaker 1: then they won the football game. And despite the fact

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860
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Speaker 1: million dollars quarterback. You had the opportunity, and what you

862
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Speaker 1: do he just quandered it? What the bed to forty

863
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Speaker 1: two left? You had an opportunity. This is what legends

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865
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Speaker 1: guy in the back to be you saying, both of

867
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Speaker 1: us spot the ball, and you just can't put yourself

868
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: in that situation. Penalties will do that. They are will

869
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: kill drives. And when did we see that play that

870
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: that playoff game when it mattered most penalties on the

871
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Speaker 1: offensive and defensive side of the ball, whether it was

872
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Speaker 1: Randy Gregory tackling an offensive linean who didn't even have

873
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Speaker 1: the ball, or if it's you know, holding penalties on

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Speaker 1: Connor Williams or whoever was on the offensive line at

875
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: that incidence, it's not gonna work out. Okay, Now I

876
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 1: bring it back to how we began this, what did

877
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: the offseason approach and how they went about building the

878
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Speaker 1: football team had to do with what happened at the end.

879
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: But we and then we go back to it if

880
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 1: you bring in those issues, it wasn't. It wasn't the

881
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,520
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882
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883
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886
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Speaker 1: It might have been it might have been guarantee, but

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Speaker 1: it might have been different. Needed who did that need

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890
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891
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Speaker 1: type of guilt, with that type of you know, whatever,

892
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Speaker 1: whatever you have, veteran substance, whatever it is. They didn't

893
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Speaker 1: have to bring him in for you, and they could

894
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Speaker 1: make it a traded piece. You could have gave up

895
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896
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Speaker 1: that maybe that you know, basically you know, gets everybody

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898
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899
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900
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,640
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901
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Speaker 1: You start getting stupid penalties that you can control off

902
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904
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905
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906
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Speaker 1: the hinges. And we've seen it happen a couple of

908
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:52,359
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909
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:57,600
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Speaker 1: pick twenty four right now in uh in the in

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Speaker 1: So just go through their twenty twenty two draft picks.

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Speaker 1: Round one, twenty fourth overall, Round two, fifty six overall,

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Speaker 1: Round three, eighty eighth overall, Round four one, twenty nine,

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Speaker 1: Round five one seventy six, Round five one seventy eight,

972
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Speaker 1: Round six one ninety three. So that's what they're looking

973
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Speaker 1: at in terms of picks in the past when you

974
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: talk about the Cowboys hitting at twenty four. Calvin Hill

975
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty nine, running back from Yale nineteen ninety two.

976
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Speaker 1: By the way, Calvin Hill on a Super Bowl team, dude,

977
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,720
Speaker 1: great dude, Yes, great person. Great Grant Hills. Daddy suppose

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Speaker 1: to be basketball fans out there. Grant Hill was on

979
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: the call this weekend, the Final four. Duke took that

980
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: took that out at l He watched his head coach's

981
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: career get ended by the arch right to see it

982
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: as they say, you know, his dad wanted him to

983
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: go to Carolina, and I heard that story. Yeah, and uh,

984
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 1: I when I used to do NBC Sports Radio, I

985
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: would always ask the Duke guys when I would have

986
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Speaker 1: them on. First off, I was telling the I'm a

987
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Speaker 1: Carolina fan. Out of the representative, we feel sorry for you.

988
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: And that was a great ice raker, because then it

989
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: became a personal petty battle. Oh yeah, it was very

990
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 1: And so I would ask guys like Kim and Laten,

991
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: are you picked Duke? But who finished number two? Inevitably

992
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 1: every time it's Carolina. So they so they got respect

993
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: for Carolina. Ain't like they just school. Ain't nothing. They

994
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: got respect, It's just they just coach ended up winning out.

995
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: So what did you say? Mean? What? What? What? What?

996
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 1: What dart did you throw there? That's true? Oh? You

997
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: mean like Zion who all of a sudden you bill

998
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Speaker 1: self was offering one hundred grant in the house and

999
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: he just ended up at Duke for free. Somebody got big,

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00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: m ain't gonna say no name, So yes, Calvin Hill

1001
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Speaker 1: number twenty four nineteen sixty nine, Number twenty four nineteen

1002
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Speaker 1: ninety two. Robert Jones from East Carolina played on three

1003
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl teams. His son, Zay Jones, is playing a

1004
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: player in the league today. Twenty ten, Dez Bryant out

1005
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Speaker 1: of Okahoa State was number twenty four. The last five

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Speaker 1: picks at number twenty four the draft twenty twenty one

1007
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: Naji Harris so the Steelers tent p. Twenty twenty For

1008
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: the Saints. They took Caesar Ruiz, offensive lineman out of Michigan.

1009
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: He is playing now for them. Twenty nineteen, running back

1010
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs went to the Raiders out of Alabama, playing

1011
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: well over there. Twenty eighteen, the Panthers took receiver d J.

1012
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: Moore out of mary Just got him a good bunch

1013
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: of money, good football player and here's your bust. In

1014
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, the Raiders taking Gary and Connley out of

1015
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 1: Ohio state. So the corner was, yeah, he's a corner

1016
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: out there. So but right now we're seeing that there's

1017
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: talent here. Oh yeah. And that's the thing I keep

1018
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: kind of Cowboy fans understands. Look, you're twenty four. There's

1019
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 1: gonna be some talent. Oh yeah, you can get some boys.

1020
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: You're going to have an opportunity to take a good play.

1021
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 1: Frederick was what a third like, So you can find

1022
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: some cats out there? I mean where was you know

1023
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: they passed on T. J. Watt And then so I

1024
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 1: mean you you you can get a player. Talk right,

1025
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: there are missins every year in the first round. So

1026
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: so cowboy fan, you're gonna be able to get yourself

1027
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: a good football player there looking here at the uh

1028
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Speaker 1: by the way, I mean, what's in this this uh

1029
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1030
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: I mean you really need to pick it up here,

1031
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: especially if you have tremendous read. It's a great read.

1032
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 1: But they've got the Cowboys taking the center out of Ohiowa.

1033
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 1: And let me tell you, uh if that happened. Does

1034
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: that give you chills? Oh? Well, I mean, we saw

1035
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 1: how important Frederick was to this offensive line, how great

1036
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 1: it was when you have a guy who can be

1037
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Speaker 1: the quarterback of your offensive line, get everybody situated in

1038
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: the right spots. I mean, it's game changing, not only

1039
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: for protection before you're running back as well. So if

1040
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Speaker 1: this guy with Linderbaum is hyped up as they say

1041
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Speaker 1: he's going to be, I mean, if he falls down

1042
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 1: there and we ended up getting them, I mean, and

1043
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Speaker 1: this is David Hellman who also works here to Dallas

1044
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: Cowboys shout out to d d Hellman. So that's where

1045
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 1: he's got. He's got the Cowboys taking Tyler and Linderbaum

1046
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 1: and his riot. He says, even after losses, after losing

1047
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 1: a few big games on their board, big names on

1048
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 1: their board, the Cowboys still wind up with a wonderful

1049
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: choice between Linderbam Texas a and ms Kenyan Green or

1050
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 1: Boston College guard Zion Johnson. I leaned toward Linderbaum, who

1051
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 1: could go a long way towards anchoring the middle of

1052
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 1: this offensive line. When the Cowboys offensive line was thought

1053
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 1: to be the best in the league, you had Travis

1054
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 1: French center had a great Pro Bowl center along with

1055
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame left tackle in Tyron Smith and

1056
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame guard in Jack Martin. But you

1057
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 1: do need your middle solidified. You were a young man.

1058
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,720
Speaker 1: But many years ago, after Mark Stepnoski left the Cowboys

1059
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: and went to the Oilers, they tried to plug in

1060
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: a kid named Clay Shriver, Crispy. And you may remember Clay,

1061
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: nice guy, too small, too light, you having enough bricks

1062
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: in his pocket, and it was just it was a problem.

1063
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: And to me, that's where I look at just you

1064
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 1: really need to go back here, solidify your middle, and

1065
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: because if you if you can solidify that middle, it's

1066
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: just important. It's because it gets you. It gives your

1067
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: quarterback an opportunity to step up. I mean, look at mean,

1068
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott is athletic enough that we're if he got

1069
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 1: edge pressure coming out, he can step up in that

1070
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: pocket and he can wheedland deal and make things happen.

1071
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: He can elude the pressure. But when you got guys

1072
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: right in your face from the snap, either getting bulling

1073
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: over our guard or bullwing over our center, it makes

1074
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: things extremely hard, especially at that quarterback position. You know

1075
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: from your time playing. The first thing you've got to

1076
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: do is try to win the division you got and

1077
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: you look within the division, and from a defensive standpoint,

1078
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: you you got to fletch your Cox's gonna be back

1079
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: there in Philadelphia, and they've got some big boys over

1080
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: there in Washington. York got some pieces as well. So

1081
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 1: you need to solidify your middle And if if you

1082
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 1: have aspirations of winning a Super Bowl, well you're gonna

1083
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: have to go through the Rams and Aaron Donald. You're

1084
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: gonna have to go through the Buccaneers. They got people

1085
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: up there, they got cats. I've got guys who can

1086
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 1: can so so to me, I if this were the

1087
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: case for the Cowboys, I would do cartwheels and tell you,

1088
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: you know what, man, what an outstanding opportunity here to

1089
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: get Linda Bomber and even if you get Kenyan Green.

1090
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: But Jerry's talked about them solidifying the offensive line. It's

1091
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 1: no secret that they need to go ahead and do that.

1092
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 1: We'll see what they do. I know a lot of

1093
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 1: people all about a wide receiver. I'm sorry, and it's

1094
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: a deep wide receiver class. Like I feel like you

1095
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 1: can get guys later on, you know, third, fourth, you

1096
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 1: got a couple of fifth rounds. You can the second round.

1097
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 1: I mean you can get the receiver class is deep

1098
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: and it's loaded with speed, so you're good on a

1099
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: receiver off asive lines. Where we get we gotta solidify

1100
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: this thing. We gotta get this thing right. Game is

1101
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,240
Speaker 1: won in the trenches, man. It is. When we witnessed

1102
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 1: at the playoff game, the most important game last year,

1103
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: what happened. We lost in the trenches, both offensively and defensively.

1104
00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 1: We got punched in the mouth and could never recover

1105
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: from that. So you gotta solidify these trenches. When the

1106
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 1: Cowboys were at their best, you know, during this twenty

1107
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: tens and and all that good stuff, they had a

1108
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: great offensive line, you know, it started to get an old,

1109
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 1: a little wear and tear on those tires. So you

1110
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 1: gotta juice it up a little bit. We're not better

1111
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: to do it than than the draft, since they don't

1112
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: want to go out in free agency, they don't want

1113
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: to get into the trade. So man, I supposed solidified

1114
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: in the draft. It's an option. It's an option. But

1115
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: I look at you know, if you want to talk

1116
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 1: about the best receivers in the game right now, I

1117
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: mean we just saw Cooper cup come up with historic

1118
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 1: fourth round, third round round, but you know, come up

1119
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: with historic season. DeVante Adams now the highest paid wide

1120
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: receiver in the game. Well, actually, I'm sorry, he's the

1121
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 1: second highest paid receiver. He got the highest contract when

1122
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: they gave it to they got the Dolphins gave Tyreek Hillman.

1123
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so Adams second round pick out of Fresno State. Uh,

1124
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,919
Speaker 1: Tyree hill fifth round pick out of Oklahoma State. Hop

1125
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: Dre Hopkins de hot was a first round he was

1126
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: a first round. He was a first round pick out

1127
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: of Climpson. Stepan Diggs was a second round So so

1128
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: we So when I tell people you can find these

1129
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 1: guys and in different rounds, it's pretty funny. Now I'm

1130
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: looking at David Hellman's U mock draft here in uh

1131
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 1: the Star Mag's got. He's got the Packers taking a

1132
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 1: first round wide receiver when the first time, and they

1133
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: don't do that. They know not what they do. That's

1134
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: not what I mean. I would. I would, I would

1135
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 1: hope they would for the sake of of Aaron Rodgers.

1136
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: But this is not normally what they do. They their

1137
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 1: philosophy is not to take a wide receiver in the

1138
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 1: first round. They just don't do that. They gotta do

1139
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 1: something they get I mean, they're number one option right now.

1140
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 1: Is I think what Tonyon and he's coming off of

1141
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 1: acl I mean I was already ain't resigned yet they

1142
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: lost back well Scatling so so so I just look

1143
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: at this for the Cowboys, be it defensive or offensive line,

1144
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: that's to me where they've got got a beef up.

1145
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,320
Speaker 1: Go right here, see what it is you can do

1146
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: and improve your team team that way. I'm a big

1147
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: proponent of the center. I just think center play matters.

1148
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: It's huge. Identifying Blitz is making sure everybody's on the

1149
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 1: same page where the line is sliding, and you know,

1150
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: miscommunications can happen a lot on the offensive line. They

1151
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: all got to be as a cohesive unit out there.

1152
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: And what we've seen ever since, you know, Frederick was

1153
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: you know, happening to have his illness and had to

1154
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: step away from the game, it's just been a lot

1155
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 1: of confusion. We've been, you know, plugging and playing guys

1156
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: here and there, and sometimes they haven't stepped up to

1157
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: what they need to be at. And right now we

1158
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 1: need to get that solid of fact. If they want

1159
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: to move forward and be this team that you know

1160
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: a lot of us think they can be because they

1161
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,240
Speaker 1: have the talent, you know, skill position, They have the talent.

1162
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 1: It's just can we get these trenches in order? And

1163
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 1: right now, I think that's the biggest issue for this

1164
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 1: Cowboys team going forward. And I can't emphasize this enough,

1165
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 1: especially as the Cowboys get ready to start there all

1166
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: season workouts on the eighteenth of April. How does Josh

1167
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 1: Ball get better their fourth round pick? They took out

1168
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 1: a Marshall. And I know some people are down on

1169
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: Joe Philbin, the offensive line coach, but I'll also come

1170
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 1: back into this, Joe Philbin's also the person who's the

1171
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 1: offensive line coach. When when you saw Terrence Steell make

1172
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 1: the jump and get better, very true? Can they do

1173
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: this one more time? Can they hit on another draft pick?

1174
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: A guy you played with, Doug Free, fourth round pick

1175
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 1: out of a Northern Illinois. He worked his way up

1176
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 1: here and to become a starting tackle, so um he

1177
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: needed Ball needed to get some strength. He dealt with

1178
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: some injuries last year. But that's this is where you

1179
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: hope if you're the Cowboys internally, you can make your

1180
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: football team better. Yeah, I think we both can agree.

1181
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: There's a lot of pressure. There's gonna be a lot

1182
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: of pressure on this coaching staff and a lot of

1183
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 1: these players this year to get the job done. And

1184
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: I think hopefully McCarthy's taking that right approach. I mean

1185
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: we've seen he's kipt out on the owner that I

1186
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:46,800
Speaker 1: gotta get, I gotta get into laugh, I gotta do.

1187
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a lot of pressure on these guys

1188
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: that hit in the draft and these players to go

1189
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 1: out there and execute, and in these coaches to make

1190
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 1: sure they're all held accountable and they planning and they're

1191
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 1: putting them in the best opportunity to win. See, if

1192
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: you can't get Will McClay down here. I know it's tough,

1193
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 1: this is his busy time, but yeah, how can McCall

1194
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 1: say if we can get him on, I would just

1195
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,359
Speaker 1: I would love to know, Hey, who are some guys

1196
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 1: that you're looking for for that next jump Because they

1197
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: spent a lot of draft capital on defense last year.

1198
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: Where are some of these guys at and what can

1199
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: you look to and how can they improve? Because we

1200
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: look so much at Hey, you know you need to

1201
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 1: go get this guy. You need to go get that

1202
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: guy who can improve? Can Jabril Cox improve? You know

1203
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,439
Speaker 1: how to and that the linebacker spot. Now, what about

1204
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 1: the corners you took? How they improved? Now knowing what

1205
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 1: goes through a full season, what to look for, understanding

1206
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: what techniques all about? That was something you know as

1207
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: a safety you had to under the speed of the

1208
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: game and the technique different. How did these guys get better? That,

1209
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 1: to me is where I don't think fans talk about

1210
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:49,439
Speaker 1: enough because you just right. But you know, Terrence still

1211
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: was a guy. When I was out at camp in California,

1212
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 1: you could see the guy was getting better and mckilling

1213
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: the tight end. You can see if he was a

1214
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: guy who was out there camp getting better. So I

1215
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: don't think sometimes fans want to give the Cowboys enough

1216
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 1: credit for not only drafting, but developing. You can draft

1217
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 1: a guy, can you develop the player to where they

1218
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: can become a contributor and look no further than Dalton

1219
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: Schultz is that type of player. Dak Prescott that kind

1220
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: of player. So if they do that, then maybe once

1221
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 1: again this approach people are complaining about, maybe maybe maybe

1222
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 1: you'll feel a little bit better here. And I don't

1223
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: say that to just pump abut to sunshine or there's

1224
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: a proven track record of what they're doing. And while

1225
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 1: the Rams made it work by saying, forget these picks,

1226
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: let's go out here and pay people, the Cowboys approach

1227
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: has been done by other teams in the league because

1228
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: they used to do. I mean, early nineties, they were

1229
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 1: they were doing that kind of the Rams type approach,

1230
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: you know, bringing in Hayley, you know, bringing in dal

1231
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 1: That was a trade. We'll see. Haley was a trade,

1232
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 1: and it was a it was a great trade, um

1233
00:58:55,720 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: because Charles apparently urinated on someone's car and Bill Wall said,

1234
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 1: I had it enough. So they got him for a

1235
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: song and they felt like we needed this better run

1236
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: here to get us over the end. And it worked,

1237
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: It worked, and it worked, you know. But Dion came

1238
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: after they'd already won two Super Bowls. Defensive Player of

1239
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: the Year to them, so so so yeah, but but

1240
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 1: they've but a lot of the stuff that Jimmy hadn't.

1241
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 1: But they did a lot of those guys were homegrown, dude,

1242
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: A lot a lot of them were. So we'll see,

1243
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: we'll see, all right, that quick. Get breathing through this.

1244
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: Do you ever ye, I don't know. You don't drink

1245
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 1: all like that, but you ever had a chance to

1246
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 1: sip some of that um who's at eight? That that

1247
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 1: Troy Aikman and his new light beer. No, I don't try.

1248
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 1: I don't drink. I think somebody said they're gonna send

1249
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 1: me a case of it. So if I get it,

1250
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 1: I'll bring it, bring it, send it to your boy.

1251
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 1: It's like getting that case. I'll send it to you.

1252
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 1: I think somebody the station may have already snatched that

1253
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: case of beer. I knew we don't drink. I'll take it. Yeah,

1254
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 1: if you, if you come across, just you know, go

1255
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 1: ahead and talk it over to your boy. Okay, Okay,

1256
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: I'll uh and maybe i'll uh if we can get

1257
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 1: you something for those sports videographers. You gotta watch out

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Speaker 1: for that later out they go. No, probably swiped it

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Speaker 1: from you. No one doesn't drink either, so so yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I'll we'll see, maybe we'll see what can happen.

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Speaker 1: Let me slid on that eight real quick, all right,

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Speaker 1: we'll see Barry Church showed down, Chris, Maybe you need

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Speaker 1: to make a call, get him in here on the

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Speaker 1: on the players like yes, that told me breaks up

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Speaker 1: that ninety ninety meal. He just got a boy for

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Speaker 1: there about it. You make some eight making the talking sports.

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Speaker 1: There you go. You know you don't need to be

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Speaker 1: you don't need to be if here doing a podcast. Okay,

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Speaker 1: just slide the eight our way man that's trying to

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Speaker 1: do that. Eli and pet Man. You ain't seeing them

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Speaker 1: on trying to do get up, get up around the horn.

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Speaker 1: We ain't doing that. Don't even ask get him on,

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Speaker 1: ye try to get check it. Throw it out there,

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Speaker 1: throw it out there. I am shoot up a DM Yeah,

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Speaker 1: talk players lass, goodbye later. This has been a production

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