1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Ready, Ready, cool, Michael, what do you know about Formula 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: one racing? Um? I do know the name Michael Schumacher. 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: Oh that's more than I knew. Yeah, because when I 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: was a kid, there was the trivia of who's the 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: highest paid athlete in the world, and it was a 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: trap to get you to say, like Michael Jordan's and 7 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: it was this guy never heard of named Michael Schumacher, 8 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: a different Michael. I know it's a car race. So 9 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: I do feel a little bit like Bill Hayter's iconic 10 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: Saturday Night Live sketch Stefen. The sport really has everything. 11 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: So you've got people who are willingly hurdling themselves in 12 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: carbon fiber death traps at over two break five, literal 13 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: and actual Nigerian Prince scams. Maybe we don't look the 14 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: gift horse in the mouth and we just accept what 15 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: they've given us. An angry Italian team boss who's resorted 16 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: to posing with children's playground toys to get money for 17 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: his team, He's like, this is not a fucking kindergarten. 18 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: You have got tragedy stuck. It makes incredible dramas. This 19 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: fucking you have name calling, mudslinging, sometimes literally punch throwing, 20 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: you have triumph, you a fashion. It is like watching 21 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: Real Housewives if the real housewives were driving at three 22 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: an hour and occasionally catching on fire, and you have 23 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: everything in between the high is it very high? The 24 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: lawyers feel so incredibly bad? Okay, Lily, thank you. Spicy sounds, 25 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: zesty sounds, exciting sounds, high speed. I have no connection. 26 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: I have no reason to support some Swiss millionaire who's 27 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: driving this car. You know what I mean? There isn't 28 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: I need some ownership over somebody, a team, a car, 29 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: and that's missing. Maybe if I can connect with some 30 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: team or a person or there's a store, worry that 31 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: I resonates with me? Now I'm rooting for these people? 32 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Well? Have I got a podcast 33 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: for you from my Heart Radio and Sports Illustrated Studios. 34 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: This is Choosing Sides one. Wow, w Hi, welcome to 35 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: Choosing Sides f one, a podcast about, um, what what 36 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: are we doing here? Lily? So? Um, congrats on signing 37 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: a very fancy contract for sports podcast where you know 38 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 1: nothing about the sport. This is this is awesome. That's 39 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: a good pitch. Ye Okay, So obviously to care about anything, 40 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: you've got to have skin in the game. That's what 41 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: we're talking about here. So over the next many weeks, I, 42 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: along with a ton of F one insiders and journalists, fans, 43 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: all sorts of people, are going to be taking you 44 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 1: on a bit of a journey to understand Formula one, 45 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: and we're going to be getting into the inner workings 46 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: of every single team, every single driver. By the end, 47 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: are going to make a choice as to which team 48 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: and driver your support. Um, but you'll soon find that 49 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 1: this is not a straightforward is just choosing the fastest guy, 50 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: right or the best team? Um? You know, every single driver, 51 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 1: every single team you know, has their own their own scandals, 52 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: their own rivalries, resentments, daddy issues. The number one rule 53 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 1: of F one off the bat, everybody's got daddy issues. 54 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: If you don't have one, you can't be in that 55 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: seems to be a daddy the team owner. Maybe maybe 56 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: we'll actually the first team we talked about, We'll get 57 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: into the guy who's who's known as a daddy on 58 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: the grid. So, okay, they really got it all. Yeah, 59 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: I'm certain I'm gonna I like. I like people competing 60 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: under pressure, and it feels like there's a lot of 61 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: pressure and steaks when you're moving at that speed for millions, 62 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: hundred millions of dollars is that? Sure, money is great, 63 00:03:56,040 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: but death is the ultimate motivator. Then home speed, spills, thrills, 64 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: crowding miles in two minutes on the streaming tomic, they 65 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: ride with life as the passenger and death on that 66 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: tail catra lift. So obviously with sports, yeah, it depends 67 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: on where you grew up, depends whence you grew up 68 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: watching what your family ended up liking. Obviously a lot 69 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: of Americans did not grow up with F one. Um. 70 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: But yeah, there is a show on Netflix called Drive 71 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: to Survive started coming out I believe in twenty nineteen, 72 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: where it's basically a very highly audited, uh and very 73 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: dramatic docuseries. I am someone who got very into Formula 74 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: one after for no reason at all, clicking on Drive 75 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: to Survive on Netflix. What made it interesting was so 76 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: Formula one, as we will get into shortly, it's a 77 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 1: very secretive sport. They're very tight lipped. As I said, 78 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: there's millions and millions, even billions of dollars at stake, 79 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: so there everyone's really close to the vest in the sports. 80 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: So it made the show very different was the fact 81 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: that it kind of gave you this inside look into 82 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: the different garages, into the what's called the paddock, which 83 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,119 Speaker 1: is where you know, all of the action takes place, 84 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 1: the cars, all of the commentators, all this stuff. You know, 85 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: there are clips of for instance, you know, one driver 86 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: crashed into another and went up to that guy during 87 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 1: you know, post race interviews and told him to go 88 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 1: fuck himself, and the guy looked at him on camera 89 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: and said, yes, Yes, that's what we got to see 90 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: from driver yourself. Suck my Ball's Mate, which is now 91 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: on T shirts. You can get it on decorat decorative 92 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: mugs that your suck my Ball's Mate mug can be 93 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: kept right next to the keep my Wife's Name at 94 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: your fucking mouth exactly exactly similar energy and applies. I 95 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: had skillfully avoiding another skidding opponent. Okay, so, Tony, what 96 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: would someone like my co host Michael Costa or anyone 97 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: else who's just brand new to f one need to 98 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: know to understand the sport lately? That is like the 99 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: hardest question to answer. What do you need to know? 100 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:59,239 Speaker 1: I love it? So that's Formula one Journalist Tony Cowen 101 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: Brown I'm a firm believer that the more you know 102 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: about something, the more you get more you can enjoy 103 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: the actual sport. So Tony literally wrote the Beginner's Guide 104 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: to f one with Formula one like the organization, so 105 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: she is obviously the perfect person to help us go 106 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: on this journey. This this like weird paradox in Formula 107 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: one is at the cusp of innovation. The R and 108 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: D research behind closed doors inside a Formula one is 109 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: like no other. But at the same time, sport has 110 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: been around for seventy plus years, is very arcaic, is 111 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: deeply rooted in the end of World War Two. Race 112 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: car driving in general has been around since the beginning 113 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: of of you know, invention of vehicles, right, so in 114 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: the early nineteen hundreds you've just got people informally racing 115 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: each other. There started to be a little more organization 116 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: around race car driving, particularly in Europe in the nineteen 117 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: thirties before World War Two. Isn't it say something about 118 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: humanity that we invent this amazing combustion engine and then 119 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: immediately are like, who can max it out the fastest 120 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 1: to the potentially their personal peril? Exactly, Yeah, we'll crashing 121 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: how fast can you get love? Yeah, yeah, I love that. 122 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: Good job. Good job humanity for always wanting to push it. 123 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: Lucky escape drives back into the race. England produced during 124 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: World War Two a lot of airplanes for their military specifically, 125 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: and after the war ended. So after World War Two ended, 126 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: there was this surplus of aerospace engineers that essentially needed jobs. Simultaneously, 127 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: you were also seeing the appearance of compre racing, Grand 128 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: Prix racing, which became increasingly popular with the gentleman's who 129 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: might have still had that feeling of that hero mentality 130 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: that we saw a lot in World War Two. They 131 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: were also out of a job, potentially board and keeping busy. 132 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: Another interesting thing is that a lot of Europe, and 133 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: in particular the United Kingdom, where it's kind of it's 134 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: kind of considered the one of the real birthplaces of 135 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: Formula one, but the Kingdom had a ton of abandoned 136 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: air fields and strips from the war, and so as 137 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: a result of all of that, engineers got really creative 138 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: and started building these essentially really lightweight cars to race 139 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: on these airfields that later became actual tracks. It's round 140 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: out a round and drills with kids fast and frequently 141 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: that sounds awesome. Yeah, Like, if you can get an 142 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: hour away from the family, you and the buddies, grab 143 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: some pints and go drive super souped up cars on 144 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 1: an abandoned airfield. Count me in. Yeah. Of course people 145 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: got injured and died, but like it's you know, a 146 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: couple hours away from the family, it's worth the risk. 147 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: So something to note about this time is, first of all, 148 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: there were there were no there was an organization to 149 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: speak of, right, these are just dudes out there gentlemen's sport. Uh. 150 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: The whole idea of safety regulations. Um, we don't know 151 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: her at this time, right, Like they're just kind of 152 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: doing whatever. There's no helmets, there's no seatbelts, there's nothing 153 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: to kind of strap anyone in. You have spectators that 154 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: are literally just next to these tracks being protected by 155 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: maybe a hay bale or two at the time. Uh 156 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: So obviously I'm sure you're yeah, you're wondering when does 157 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: this quaint little gentleman's sports become a billion dollar juggernaut. 158 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: I like to look at Formula one as there are 159 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: two eras in Formula One. There's pre Bernie and then 160 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: this post Bernie. So there's a guy who's pretty controversial 161 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: enough one Bernie Ecclestone. Bernie ecclestone. Yeah, Bernie, we'll call 162 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: him Bernie for great controversial billionaire name. Yeah, he sounds 163 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: like a billionaire, he does. And pre Bernie, this was 164 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: just like a gentleman's agreement. It was these you know, 165 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: like a hobby. But Bernie was very forward thinking and 166 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: how he looked at Formula one and he truly turned 167 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: Formula one from a hobby into a business. And I 168 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: believe it's ninety eight one. He convinced basically the teams 169 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: to sign a contract called the Concorde Agreement, asking the teams, 170 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: the Formula one teams to commit to racing for a 171 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: couple of years. This agreement is still in place today. 172 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: And what he did was this contract, which was extremely smart, 173 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: is he took this agreement to TV companies and he 174 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: would guarantee them coverage. He would basically guarantee that this 175 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 1: race was taking place with all of these incredible manufacturers, 176 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: the like of Williams, the like of Ferrari, McLaren, et cetera. 177 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: And he would guarantee the teams would get coverage, which 178 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,599 Speaker 1: was great for the sponsor, so that they could be 179 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: seen worldwide. This was very much cutting edge in the 180 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 1: eighties for him to do disagreement. So there's no question 181 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: again whether you like him or not. Polarizing figure. There 182 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: is no doubt that what Bernie did Bernie Kinson did 183 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: was turned this from a hobby into a money making 184 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: machine with huge commercial success. And okay, what makes him 185 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: so controversial? I know, like, how much time do we have? 186 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: How much time do you have? And also bear in 187 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: mind that I look at him through the lens of 188 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:57,239 Speaker 1: a young woman who believes in certain things like equality 189 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: and representation under need for diversity. I want to see 190 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: what he looks like. Yes, of course the first pictures 191 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: him with like a twenty two year old model chick. 192 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:12,719 Speaker 1: She looks like a tall supermodel. He looks like a 193 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: villain in a Disney movie. White hair, wrinkly face, wealth 194 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: flies private. He looks down at first class. That's what 195 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: he calls coaches for his first class. A lot of 196 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: the pictures are him with his wife, so he's smart 197 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: enough to, oh, here's a picture of him chatting with 198 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin. In your view, you don't think that Putin 199 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: has done anything wrong as a person. I've found him, 200 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: very straightforward, honorable, did exactly what he said. Who's going 201 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: to do putout in the argument. There are a lot 202 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: of people who disagree with you, Bernie eccleston, But thank 203 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: you so much for for for coming on the program 204 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: and putting that view out there. Bernie eccleston, their former 205 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: chief executive of the Formula one group. He's very old school. 206 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: He he currently has much said he doesn't like new 207 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: or younger F one fans. He still thinks F one 208 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 1: should be uh sort of advertising to you know, old 209 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: guys with tons of money. Um. But obviously his system 210 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 1: wasn't really working because until recently, you know, viewership of 211 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: F one was going down. But Nixon is no longer 212 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:20,199 Speaker 1: part of Formula one. He actually sold his steak in 213 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: Formula one to Liberty Media that now owns this whole venture. 214 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: We got drive to survive. We got a lot more 215 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: social media from them. Before then, it was very secretive. Yeah, 216 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: he's and he's really old at this point. I say, 217 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 1: I mean, old people notoriously are always saying the wrong thing. 218 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: But if you're old in nineteen sixty, you're really old. 219 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: I always respect anyone who is taking action and doing 220 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: something The problem is a lot of those people then 221 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: say really stupid shit all the time. But it takes 222 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: effort and energy and enthusiasm and balls to like make 223 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: shit happen. Right, Yeah, put that on a mug. I 224 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: think it'll take a little too much space on the 225 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: bug unless it's like a very large bug. But it 226 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: can go next to my suck suck my balls mate. Yeah, 227 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: I love that. I love that. That was that suck 228 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: my ball's mate. Yeah, because you hey, we're racing, yeah, 229 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: we're so. Yeah, I will say that guy is back 230 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:19,719 Speaker 1: on the grid and we will get to him later 231 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: on this time. And also I'm excited to learn what 232 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: the fuck the grid means, yes, because that word is 233 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: thrown around a lot. The grid. Yeah, it's an easy way. 234 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: It also sound like you know what you're talking about. 235 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: It's just the grid the paddock. Yeah. Yeah, I learned 236 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: the word kit, you know, relatively recently in my F 237 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: one journey. It's I sound infinitely smarter now. It's like 238 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 1: what you wear team, that's that's isn't that British? That 239 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: British tennis players would say that. Let me just say 240 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: this podcast, the amount of like Brits we've interviewed where 241 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: they say motor sport like singular when talking about the plural, 242 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: and that I feel but I look at sound ridiculous 243 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: as an American saying you know, oh, you know in 244 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: the world of motor sports, it's like there's an s 245 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 1: lily and you're like, yeah, next thing, you know, you're 246 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: going to say that you had to go to hospital. Yeah. 247 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm like like one one interview a 248 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: way everywhere from switching into hospital. Plus they also think, 249 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: just like we think, they're also smart because they sound 250 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: that way. They just automatically think we're dumb and usually 251 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 1: they're right. But there's also dumb Brits. I want to 252 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: be very clear and please put this in the podcast. 253 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: There are really dumb British people. Okay, got it. It's 254 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: round out to roundo thrills with skids fast and frequently 255 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: these cars they all look the same to me on 256 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: the outside. But what is I mean, what are these cars? 257 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: A good A good question. So I'm sure you know 258 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: what NASCAR is. You probably heard of indie car in 259 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: the Indie Fire and uh, what's interesting is those those 260 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: cars are what's called they're usually Spec series is what 261 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: it's called I get another term that will make you 262 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: sound instantly smarter. More often than not, everyone's kind of 263 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: driving the same things. The idea is that there's a 264 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: pretty even playing field in terms of the machinery. But 265 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: Formula one is a completely different beast. Formula one is 266 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: a rules based car racing category. So this is F 267 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: one journalist Hazel Southwell. She specializes in the design and 268 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: technical aspects of the sport. The design of cars is 269 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: largely free, except for the technical regulations that guide teams 270 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: to create similar vehicles within some parameters. It's called formula one. 271 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: Part of that quote unquote formula is the fact that, yeah, 272 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: there are regulations, there are rules, and everyone's just trying 273 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: to kind of tiptoe around them, you know, get us 274 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: close to the edge of the cliff and hope they 275 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: don't fall in. That means it's very technically driven. It's 276 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: something which has huge amounts of research and development behind it, 277 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: so that you might see one guy standing on the podium, 278 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: it's actually thousands of people in or hundreds of people 279 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: where a minimum teams that contribute to those victories. F 280 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: one is as much almost like an engineering competition on 281 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: steroids as it is a driving championship. Cheating in Formula 282 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: one is a fundamental part of the way the Formula 283 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: One is kind of played as a sport because in 284 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: creative interpretation of the rules is basically how you get 285 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: an advantage over your opponents. If everyone just interpreted the 286 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: rules to their letter, then you'd have twenty identical cars 287 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: and it wouldn't be very interesting for anyone. But as 288 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: soon as somebody sees perhaps a loophole or a gap 289 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: or a way that they can be interpreted differently, then 290 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: you have a possibility to gain an advantage or to 291 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: make a truly terrible car. You see teams in previous 292 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: decades have, for instance, put more wheels on the car 293 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: to see if they would make them run faster. They've 294 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: put weird stuff on the back of the car. They've 295 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: tried everything in their power, and of course, you know, 296 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: every once in a while a team just completely nails 297 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: it right out of the blue and suddenly they are 298 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 1: just lapping people because they figured out some key thing 299 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: within the regulations, usually barely in the regulations to do that. 300 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: Can I say something about that every sport at the 301 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: highest level is the finest line between being innovative and 302 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: cheating every every sport. I mean, from Tom Brady and 303 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: the deflated football's to a hockey player retaping the top 304 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: of their stick, or could the cur every sport you 305 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: need an edge? That's how good your competition is cheating 306 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 1: the art of skillful cheating. Um, it's pretty murky. There's 307 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:48,959 Speaker 1: been a lot of interesting scandals involving cars that were 308 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: deemed illegal. Quite famously, in Lewis Hamilton's first year, McLaren 309 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: lost the World Championship was stripped of absolutely all its points, 310 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 1: uh because it was discovered that they had been involved 311 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: in spying on Ferrari. So the other thing that I 312 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 1: do love though, about the fact that everyone's barely trying 313 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: to barely not cheat, means that everyone else complains about 314 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 1: folks barely not cheating. So so a lot of the 315 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: ongoing drama, for instance, in Formula one, is these various 316 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 1: team bosses either very loudly whining or very casually mildly 317 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: suggesting that their competitors have done something not kosher. It's 318 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: like when your parents set a rule and you kind 319 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 1: of like you really you sort of push it right 320 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: up until the final interpretation of that rule. Um, but 321 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: with you know, tens of millions of pounds of financial consequence. 322 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: If you are cool, they're not getting around. They have 323 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: rules where if you're a competitor and you touch another 324 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: team's car, like let's say, even bump it, they'll find you, 325 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: you know, fifty pounds like there. You know, And you've 326 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 1: also had teams get upset when drivers even kind of 327 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: looked at their car, which is not illegal. So they're 328 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 1: allowed to do that, right, stop looking at my car. 329 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: I as a sports fan, I appreciate them doing that, 330 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: trying to keep the sport fair. I also cannot imagine 331 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: the intelligence, the money, and there are so many moving 332 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: parts literally on a race car. Jesus, that's a huge undertaking. 333 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: There is a lot of people, technology all mixed into 334 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: this competition. Arrival no mean feet on the greasy track 335 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: much a ticklish moment when Noma Tradi six pycraft in 336 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: his Emerson car. So the f I A and like 337 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: I said, this governing body, um, they do come out 338 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: with smaller regulations and other changes and things, you know, 339 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: year to year, even sometimes race to race if something 340 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: really bad has happened, but every few years and there's 341 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: no real set time for this to happen, they will 342 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: put out a whole new list of regulations. Two Fumula 343 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: one regulations were brought in to address had been an 344 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: issue for going back well over a decade, with the 345 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: fact that the aerodynamics, which are brilliant and incredibly clever, 346 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 1: don't work very well when they get close to other cars. 347 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 1: So as a consequence, there hasn't always been very good 348 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: overtaking um. There have been some pretty dismal Grand Prix 349 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: with single digit or even no overtakes UM and that 350 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: is not what people tune into most sport to watch. 351 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 1: You want to see some friction exactly. So the rule 352 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 1: book was radically rewritten to readdress the way that aerodynamics 353 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: work on formul among cars in order to ensure that 354 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,719 Speaker 1: when they get close to another car, they're not going 355 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 1: to dramatically lose all of the features that let them 356 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: grip to the track, that let them take corners as 357 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: fast as they do, that let them have the cars 358 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: stability for the drivers to be able to go at 359 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: the speeds that they do. So you know, this is 360 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: the perfect time for you to join up one because 361 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: new regulations mean utter chaos, right because you can see 362 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: teams that have dominated just completely funk up the regulations, right, 363 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 1: they take certain gambles in certain risks and they do 364 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: not pay off. And on the flip side, you'll see 365 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: teams that we're just doing okay or maybe even horrifically 366 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: completely nail those regulations and all of a sudden they 367 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: go from being you know, back of the pack to hey, 368 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 1: like they they're actually in it with the points and 369 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 1: they're they're kind of moving and grooving. So so yes, 370 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: that's like the fun part right now is we've seen 371 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: some chaotic races where you know, the You've got the 372 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: current reigning world champion in the first three races of 373 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: two he hasn't finished two of those races because of 374 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: issues with his car. So obviously a talented driver completely 375 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 1: undone by faulty issues with the car under new regulations. 376 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 1: I'm I'm surprised and very interested that it feels like 377 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 1: the driver, the athlete superstar has an important role, but 378 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: it feels like it's almost a fifty fifty importance to 379 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: the team science maybe less. I don't know. Funny you 380 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 1: should mentioned drivers because that's actually a great segue. Yeah, 381 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: could you could really get in a Formula one car 382 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 1: and move forward. I have trouble driving my Subaru Forester 383 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: when I'm back at home, let alone, and there's not Also, 384 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 1: that's not a fair question to ask a New Yorker 385 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: because nobody here knows how to drive. I would even 386 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: know how to get in, Like it's a whole endeavor 387 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 1: just to kind of wiggle your way into one of 388 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: these things. So to get back to our slightly more 389 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: professional drivers, I am not one of those. Interestingly enough, 390 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: many people do not view Formula One drivers as actual 391 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:36,959 Speaker 1: real athletes. People underestimate how physical this board is just 392 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 1: because you know, it looks easy when you look at 393 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: the onboard cameras. You know, they look like the cars 394 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 1: are perfect and it's just you steering. But um, it's 395 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: very demanding. So that was Tatiana Calderone. She was actually 396 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: the last female to drive in F one car for 397 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: a team called Alfa Romeo. We'll hear more about Alfa 398 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: Romeo and we'll hear more from Tatiana later in the season. 399 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: I had asked her to describe what it's like to 400 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: drive enough one car when you're going more than three 401 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,239 Speaker 1: hundred kilometers an hour and you have to turn in 402 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: flat to a corner to turn the weed. It's is 403 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: very heavy and you have to do that eighteen or 404 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 1: nineteen times per lap, you know, so it's for one 405 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: an hour, one hour and thirty minutes. Two hours is 406 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: stressful for for your body and for your mind. Your 407 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: heart rate goes up, so you're always and at around 408 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: one sixty or one fifty bibs per minute in the 409 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 1: heat with very little air is unbelievably hot in race cars. 410 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 1: Reporter Hazel Southwell, again, it can easily be sustainedly over 411 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: sixty centigrade. I'm not sure what that is in fahrenheit. 412 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: That's a hundred and forty degrees fahrenheit Jesus. Secondly, they're 413 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 1: undergoing enormous amounts of g fours, so every time they 414 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 1: take a corner, instead of breaking like we would and 415 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,239 Speaker 1: maybe coming almost to a standstill to take a right 416 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: angle corner, they just carry through as much speed as possible, 417 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: so they will be going through a right angle corner 418 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,360 Speaker 1: over a hundred and fifty miles per hour. If you 419 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: think about pulling like five or six G through a corner, 420 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: then everything weighs five or six times more than it does, 421 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: so basically it tries to rip their head off. F 422 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: one driver's up. They've got very big necks because they 423 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: actually have to train their next is like a separate 424 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: portion of their like physio, because the head is swapping 425 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 1: her out. They had to do so many hours of 426 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: training in the neck to just even be able to 427 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: drive the car, let alone push it. You know, I 428 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: felt like a robot at times. I had to change 429 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: my shirt sides. The G forces that go through your 430 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 1: body are incredible. There was an inty car driver who 431 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: got the chance a couple of months ago to test 432 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 1: out enough one car, and he's straight upset. He's like, 433 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: I could almost not complete the last couple of apps 434 00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: because my head would not stay up. And this is 435 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: still into car guy, right, so he still does this 436 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: in his own sport, but he's like, it is a 437 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 1: million times more intense enough one Over the course of 438 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: a Grand Prix weekend, they're doing hundreds of laps, so um, 439 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: they have to be able to do that and for 440 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 1: the physical demands of driving to be completely irrelevant because 441 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 1: the mental concentration on what they're doing is so complete 442 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: that you have to be fit enough that all of 443 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: those factors, the heat, the G force are all like 444 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: just background noise. It's about finding that balance and that rhedom. 445 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 1: It's like playing music. You know. You you drive with 446 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: your hands as well as with your feet, and it 447 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: has to be in a harmony. And that's what I love, 448 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: trying to find harmony. I love that she's operating this 449 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 1: car on a totally different level. I'm very interested in 450 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: the steering wheel, and I'm very interested in shifting if 451 00:25:55,000 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: they shift, yeah, I don't know. They are making hundreds 452 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: of adjustments per lap. Formerly one drivers change gear eighty 453 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: times roughly around a lot. So that's just a lot 454 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 1: of gear changes if you think about the fact that 455 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: that will be taking place over the course of say 456 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: eighty seconds. And that's actually, to be honest, the most 457 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: basic thing they're doing. Um they're then constantly adjusting settings, 458 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 1: so they'll be changing things like the break balance, things 459 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: like engine modes, like modes for the hybrid system. Driver 460 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: default Charlie eighty five. When you can drive a default 461 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: C eighty five. When you can that's on the m 462 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: F A rotary to ten o'clock position, I cannot go it. 463 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: I cannot go it. Shop it up mass. If you 464 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 1: can move m F A to positions see and then 465 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: select eighty five on the dot if it nowhere again 466 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: eighty five. If you see a poso of the Formula 467 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: one steering wheel, they'll have like at least eight dials 468 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: which will all have sort of like twenty settings, and 469 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: all of those settings interact with each other us. So 470 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: if you think about how many permutations you could have 471 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: of something, and then they have various other buttons that 472 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: are just for like, um, quick deployment of something, or 473 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: for the radio or to show that they've heard a message. 474 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: You'll hear times where drivers can get kind of frustrated 475 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: and be like I just need a minute, Like I 476 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 1: just seed a minute. Let me just take a deep 477 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: breath and figure out what fucking button to push right now? 478 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 1: Is pitted if we can get in proNT of ghastly, 479 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: we get some prayer and it's good for us. I 480 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 1: just stop sucking talking. And they have to remember where 481 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: all of that is, not touch it at the wrong time, 482 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: and they have to be able to do all of 483 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: that whilst they're flying around a track at hundreds and 484 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: hundreds of an hour, being flung around what's basically you know, 485 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 1: a little tub, and they're trying to win and not 486 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: just die. Listen to the plan, stay hydrated, press the 487 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: right button, deal with g force. And also this isn't 488 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: even factoring in weather, right, so sometimes it's your interrrential downpour. 489 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 1: Trying to just see physically where you're at. Sounds fun, 490 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 1: as if there wasn't enough complexity to this. The other 491 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: thing to note on kind of a larger competitive scale 492 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: is that the stakes for these right now men, uh, 493 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: it isn't just life or death and winning. It's also 494 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: that in Formula one there's this old saying that you're 495 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 1: only as good as your last race. If you're really underperforming, 496 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: you know they will pull you out. The stakes are 497 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: fucking high. That's awesome. Yeah, yeah, it's cool. All right? 498 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 1: So who are these men? Who are these drivers? Rich kids? 499 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: How do you become a driver? Is there a is 500 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: there a qualifying tournament? In tennis? I can sign up 501 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: for qualifying and work my way up the ladder. Can 502 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: I do that in Formula one? Somebody these guys start 503 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: racing as kids. You've got guys in here who started 504 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: racing it three years old. In in karting, you will 505 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: his stories from the Australian Daniel Acada about what it 506 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: means to leave your family at the age of fourteen 507 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: fifteen and to dedicate your whole life into that. That's 508 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: Tony Cowen Brown again. I think for me to eyes 509 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: one of the reasons why you get these drivers who 510 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: are solely dedicated on one spot on one spot alone, 511 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: because they've had to leave a lot behind and give 512 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: up a lot to do the thing that they love. So, 513 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: if you're an elementary school kid who's trying to to 514 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: have like a serious carding career, that can cost upwards 515 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: I know it sounds very funny to say, uh, that 516 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: can cost upwards of a hundred thousand dollars a year. 517 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: You need some sort of lifeline too. I don't get 518 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: the sense that Formula one gives too many ships about 519 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: like the helping the underprivileged kids learning about Formula one. 520 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: They do not, and there is a push from certain 521 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: drivers to be better. There's a lot of very vague 522 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: sort of um girl bossy like you know, like wait, wait, 523 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: everyone should know that, you know, they can do whatever 524 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: they want. If you want to be a driver, you 525 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: can do it. And you're like, I'm sorry, with what 526 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: checker you're gonna help me? Do that. There's a lot 527 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: of that kind of speak, especially in the current day 528 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: h F one's trying to pretend that they really care 529 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: about things other than money. But on the other flip 530 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: side of this, money is a huge part of it. 531 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,959 Speaker 1: But there are still, thanks to regulations, there's still a 532 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: lot of other barriers to keep bad drivers or kind 533 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: of hobby ritchie riches out of the sport. The f 534 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: i A has like certain criteria that you need to 535 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: hit to become a Formula one driver. One of that 536 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: is getting a super license. I know it's not a 537 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,479 Speaker 1: very original name super license, but me it means that 538 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: you've you've participated in a certain number of junior racing categories, 539 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: uh and you've earned a certain number if I believe 540 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: the now requisite number of points is forty quote unquote 541 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: you know, super license points, and you need to do 542 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: that within three years. Obviously need your road license, and 543 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: now you need to be eighteen or above. And fun fact, 544 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: the fact that Max for Stappen got into F one 545 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: as early as he did wouldn't have been possible if 546 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: he was trying today because he would have had to 547 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: be a minimum age of eighteen. So we'll get it 548 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: all into Max Verstappen, the current world champion, who is 549 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: incredibly controversial. When we talk about red bull racing in 550 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: a few episodes. Um, this may be a dumb question, 551 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: but when you say red bull racing, you're referring to 552 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: a team, right, correct? What is the Formula one team? 553 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: What does that even mean? That is an excellent question. 554 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: We will get into all of the teams after their 555 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: short break. So okay, So at its core, F one 556 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: is kind of team based in this interesting way. When 557 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: you think of football, you've got I don't even know 558 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: what is it over fifty players on a team. It's 559 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: a lot, right. This is the cool thing about Formula one. 560 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: There are essentially twenty drivers, ten teams, ten team principles. 561 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: There's a couple of reserve drivers here and there, but 562 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: essentially does not that many people that you need to 563 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: start to get to know, which is really cool. That's 564 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: clear and simple. I like, very easy barrier to entry, 565 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: you know. So if someone ever tries to be like, oh, 566 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: you can't be a real fan unless you name all 567 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: the drivers, I'm like, bitch, I can do that because 568 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: it's really not that hard. So within Formula one, this 569 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: is funky there's actually two simultaneous championships going on. Why 570 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: not add to the complexity exactly as if there wasn't 571 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: enough going on between, like the drivers frying in their 572 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: cars and like the engineering and the crashes and the explosions. 573 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: We have two different championships. You remember one thing, remember 574 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: the Informula One that was both the driver Championship and 575 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: there was the Team Constructor Championship. So the Constructors Championship 576 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: is interesting because F one dolls out prize money depending 577 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: on where you place, so it actually really matters that 578 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,239 Speaker 1: you end up in fifth place over sixth place. You 579 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: know that you're looking at hundreds of millions of dollars 580 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: based on just finishing a couple of places up. You know, 581 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: you beat a team by one point. By the end 582 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: of the season, you're looking at a much bigger windfall 583 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: than you would have been otherwise. They dole out the 584 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: money at the end of the season. Yeah. Yeah, So 585 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: like last year Mercedes, which won the Constructors Championship, Uh, 586 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: they walked away with sixty three million in prize money 587 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: just for getting that placement in the season. Williams got eighth, 588 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: they ended up with thirteen million. It's almost like like 589 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: a reverse draft. Like you know, if you do terribly, 590 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: you don't get first pick, and you're still in fact 591 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: end up the loser at the bottom. Here, there's two ways, 592 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: in my opinion, like bucketing the teams. If you will, 593 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: you could divide the twenty cars and the twenty drivers 594 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: into roughly three categories. You've got the best of the 595 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: best that are fighting for the championship. That's generally the 596 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: top three to top four right now. Those are you know, 597 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: the likes of Mercedes, render Bull, Ferrari McLaren. Then you've 598 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: got what we call the best of the rest, and 599 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: then you have the rest of the rest um and 600 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: the best of the rest and the rest is essentially 601 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: what we call the midfield in Formula one. This is 602 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: where essentially the fun happens. Anything can happen in the midfield. 603 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: In American culture, in general politics, whatever we love, we 604 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: love a first past the post moment. Right we watched 605 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: wonder who got there first, who won the thing, etcetera. 606 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: N F one. Uh, you have a lot of people 607 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: who for teams that are not the championship winning team. 608 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: You're you get excited when like I just want my 609 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: favorite team if they score just two points at this race, 610 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: they will go from being ten out of ten to 611 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: eighth out of ten. You know, like can they just 612 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: like you know, get it? Um? I will say too, 613 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: because I'm sure you're wondering what are point? How many points? 614 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: So you get points and it's a descending amount for 615 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: first through tenth place, so if you get eleven through twenty, 616 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: you get nada. And what's more important the team championship 617 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 1: or the individual driver? I mean, if you are an 618 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 1: individual driver, you're just trying to win always. Right. Here's 619 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: actually where a lot of the drama and if one 620 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 1: comes in. So obviously we all think to ourselves, well, 621 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 1: they're competing against other teams, they're all fighting against each other. 622 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: But the thing to think about is, as we've talked about, 623 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 1: all of these cars are radically different from one another. 624 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: So if there's two drivers on a team, if you're 625 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 1: a driver, there's only one other person on the grid 626 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: who's going to have the same car to you, and 627 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 1: that is your teammate. And so your biggest competitor on 628 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 1: the grid is going to be your teammate. Yeah, because 629 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 1: you that's really who's the best driver. You're both driving 630 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: the same car. Exactly, and so there's a lot of 631 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: drama around. You know, there's almost there's drama around if 632 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 1: one teammate is completely clabboring the other teammate and points. 633 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: There's also a ton of drama if you have really 634 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: evenly matched drivers who are just trying to eke out 635 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: that extra point over their teammate. You know, there's been 636 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: times where teammates have crashed into each other, multiple endless 637 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 1: occasions of this. You know. You also, though, have times 638 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: where a team will prefer one driver over the other, 639 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,919 Speaker 1: and especially if they're you know, they're, hey, this person 640 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 1: is doing much better than the championship, especially if they're 641 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 1: contending for the driver's title, So they'll kind of ask 642 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: one driver to to almost like sacrifice their race or 643 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: their placement to help the other driver. And obviously these 644 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: are big, ego driven guys, they are not happy about that. 645 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: So that that also the whole team competition almost seems 646 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: to funk with the essence of being number one. Yeah, 647 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 1: I mean, everyone's competitive. These drivers don't get to this 648 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: position if they're not some of the most hyper competitive, 649 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: intense people we've ever met. And now they're now you're 650 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 1: adding another competition within the competition, which is even more 651 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:01,800 Speaker 1: it's like a family sibling dynamic. Two vcieties come together. 652 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: That's Hamilton trying to pass on the inside and he 653 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,439 Speaker 1: can cover his hands over his eyes. Hamilton's takes out 654 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: his teammates and there will be a big, big inquiry 655 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: behind closed doors into that if that all was insaney enough. 656 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 1: You have times where the team will kind of give 657 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,320 Speaker 1: what what are what are called quote unquoteam orders. What 658 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: will kind of say, you know, hey, move, moved to 659 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,399 Speaker 1: the side. You know so and so is passing, Okay, 660 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: let let Nico pass the slack Please let Nico passed 661 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: on the main stop in the stry and they won't listen. 662 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: You don't even get to be that successful if you 663 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 1: always accept all orders exactly exactly. You want your driver 664 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: to be a little bit like that. Yeah, if both 665 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: people crash out, you get no points. And so can 666 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 1: you imagine if let's say your drivers were one and 667 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 1: two and the guy in second place just couldn't couldn't 668 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 1: help himself and crashes into number one, you're out, like 669 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: you just you just lost, you know, a huge haul 670 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: of points for no reason other than ego, what the 671 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 1: fund did I say, what did I a fuck me? 672 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 1: It's unnecessary? Is he? Okay, Michael, how are you feeling 673 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: having just become an expert in F one in the 674 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 1: span of thirty minutes. There's a lot. It sounds really cool. 675 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: I'm excited to watch. I think I have even more 676 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 1: respect for the driver, right, even though so much of 677 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: this is science and innovation and tech. When you went 678 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 1: through the list of what they have to deal with 679 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,319 Speaker 1: while not dying, while trying to win, while going two 680 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: hundred miles an hour, it's fascinating. I also can understand 681 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: why it doesn't have like necessarily a mass appeal. The sport. 682 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:47,399 Speaker 1: It seems so wealthy and the but the money, the 683 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,919 Speaker 1: money that needs to go into this is so high. 684 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 1: But in a in a beautiful way. It's like fun 685 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 1: that they're just so rich and like this is what 686 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 1: it is, and uh, you know we're not. There's no 687 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,800 Speaker 1: pick up Formula one races at the playground, you know 688 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,439 Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah, I was gonna say, you really 689 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,280 Speaker 1: don't get like ether rich vibes from F one annything. 690 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 1: They're like hug the rich. Definitely don't get ether rich 691 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,399 Speaker 1: in our world today where everyone's so carefully crafting their 692 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 1: image and brand, which I'm sure Formula one is as well. 693 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: It's kind of fun to have someone there's some world 694 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 1: just lean into. Look, we're rich as fun and we're 695 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 1: trying to race as fast as we can. Like this 696 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 1: sport is entirely unnecessary, but like we're doing it anyway, 697 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,359 Speaker 1: and we're richer than you, by the way, Like it's 698 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 1: it's fine. Yeah. So we've talked very generally about the 699 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 1: endless numbers of rules and regulations within Formula one and 700 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,919 Speaker 1: how it works, but I'm really excited to actually dive 701 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 1: into you know, the teams, the drivers, the rivalries, the scandals, 702 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 1: the thirst traps. There's lots of thirst traps so so 703 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 1: state tuned, but daddy issues galore. So basically, how this 704 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 1: will work is will dedicate roughly an episode sometimes two 705 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 1: to each team and it's drivers, so you can get 706 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 1: a sense of how the team operates, how it came 707 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 1: through the ranks, and what those drivers are like now. 708 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: So hopefully by the end you'll be able to figure out, 709 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 1: you know, which team you want to support going forward 710 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 1: and which driver you really like the most. I'm open. 711 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: Let's put it this way. There's a lot of motion 712 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: and movement trying to get me and others into formula one. 713 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: I am willing to be convinced. I'm willing to to 714 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 1: become a fan of the sport. But if I don't, 715 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 1: just give that away. Yeah okay, yeah, okay, okay, yeah, 716 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 1: no pressure on me. Just gotta get you. Whenever I'm 717 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 1: listening into a bunch of yeah, like angry men on 718 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: a racetrack, It's great. This has been Choosing Sides F one, 719 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,760 Speaker 1: a production of Sports Illustrated Studios and I Heart Radio. 720 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,959 Speaker 1: Check in next week to learn all about the Mercedes team. 721 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: The show was hosted by Michael Costa and Lily Herman. 722 00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 1: This episode was produced by Lily Herman and our senior produce, 723 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 1: Sir Johai Mittal, who also did the sound design at 724 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: the cutting room. Studios were recorded by engineer Robot Leary, 725 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: mastering by Cello Ice Blue. Max Miller is the executive 726 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 1: producer and Brennan get Just his head of audio at 727 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 1: s I Studios. 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