WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: The Waiting

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<v Speaker 1>I get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals Booth Podcast. The waiting is the hardest part. Addition,

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<v Speaker 1>as we get closer and closer to the eagerly awaited

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<v Speaker 1>start of Bengals training camp. Coming up, you'll hear from

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<v Speaker 1>two guests. First, rookie kicker Evan McPherson. He was the

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<v Speaker 1>only kicker taken in this year's draft and the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>have made it abundantly clear that they expect him to

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<v Speaker 1>be their starting kicker this year. We'll hear what Evan's

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<v Speaker 1>been doing to get ready for camp. Then it's Adam Rank,

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<v Speaker 1>who has written a state of the Franchise article about

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<v Speaker 1>every NFL team for NFL dot Com. In his words,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals are going to be one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyable teams to watch in twenty twenty one. We'll find

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<v Speaker 1>out why. The Bengals Booth Podcast is presented by bud Light.

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<v Speaker 1>Booth podcast withdrawal last week, I apologize for the lack

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<v Speaker 1>of an episode, but I went on vacation with my

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<v Speaker 1>wife and son to the state of Washington. We started

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<v Speaker 1>in Seattle, then went hiking in North Cascades National Park

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<v Speaker 1>before spending a few days north of Seattle in the

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<v Speaker 1>San Juan Islands. The trip was awesome. My batteries are recharged,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you are ever in that area, go to

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<v Speaker 1>Dad's Diner in Anacortis, Washington, about eighty miles north of Seattle,

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<v Speaker 1>and get the brisket hash. It's the best breakfast I

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<v Speaker 1>have ever had. Now, let's get to football. Of the

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and fifty nine players selected in this year's

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<v Speaker 1>NFL Draft, only one was a kicker, Evan McPherson, selected

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<v Speaker 1>by the Bengals in the fifth round. In three years

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<v Speaker 1>at the University of Florida, Evan made fifty one of

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<v Speaker 1>sixty field goal attempts that's eighty five percent, and set

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<v Speaker 1>a school record last year by drilling four from beyond

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<v Speaker 1>fifty yards. His career along with the Gators was fifty

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<v Speaker 1>five yards, but he drilled a sixty yard or in

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<v Speaker 1>high school. McPherson is from Alabama and that's where I

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<v Speaker 1>caught up with him this week. Evan, you're a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks away from your first NFL training camp. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you taking it easy at this point and saving your

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<v Speaker 1>leg or are you hard at work? I'm hard at

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<v Speaker 1>work definitely, because I know training cameras, you made a competition,

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<v Speaker 1>and coach Simmons is gonna want his kicking. Not every day,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, almost every day. So I'm just training

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<v Speaker 1>my leg and it kind of ready to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to kick whenever I need and to stay healthy, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, at the same time kicking a lot of balls.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there a tricky balance there where you want to

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<v Speaker 1>work hard and get better in the offseason, but you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to overdo it. Yeah, I definitely think there is,

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<v Speaker 1>um because you know, I probably would go out and

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<v Speaker 1>kick every day if I could, but you know, my

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<v Speaker 1>legs screaming at me telling me to take a break,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know he can't overdo it, and you're just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna know. You're gonna know your body and you know

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<v Speaker 1>when to stop, and you know when to rest and recover,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, there's definitely comes to a point where you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I could train more, but you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>just can't. You mentioned the training camp competition. When the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals drafted you this year, Darren Simmons said he expected

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<v Speaker 1>you to win the job. He's not going to hand

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<v Speaker 1>it to you, obviously, but he expects you to go

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<v Speaker 1>out and win the job in camp. What would your

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<v Speaker 1>reaction when he said that. It's the NFL um You know,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody wants to play in the NFL and be a

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<v Speaker 1>part of it, and just you know, just getting the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to do to compete for those jobs as a blessing.

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<v Speaker 1>And I knew wherever I went, you know, I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to compete. And I think that's probably one

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<v Speaker 1>of the best things. One of my best attributes is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, competing, being super competitive and you know, not

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to kind of lose or take second to anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>So now I'm really excited about competing with Austin. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a good guy, a good kicker, and I'm excited

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<v Speaker 1>to you guys Cincinnati and get things rolling. After you

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<v Speaker 1>were drafted in the fifth round, you spoke to the

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati Media and you said something along the lines of

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<v Speaker 1>making the NFL was your goal since you started kicking.

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<v Speaker 1>When did that start to become a realistic goal in

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<v Speaker 1>your mind? Probably? I mean shoot, like I think later

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<v Speaker 1>in high school, whenever you know, I was getting recruited

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<v Speaker 1>by a college is a little bit, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, all right, well, maybe I can really make

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<v Speaker 1>this thing a Yeah. I guess you'd say, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like a lifestyle or you know, make the NFL my

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<v Speaker 1>goal because this is one this is what I want

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<v Speaker 1>to do the rest of my life. And I'd say

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<v Speaker 1>probably around like the end of high school, um, going

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<v Speaker 1>into college. I guess when I really, you could say,

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<v Speaker 1>put my head down and started grinding for a chance

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. We're talking to rookie kicker Evan McPherson.

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<v Speaker 1>I read that when you were in fifth grade you

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<v Speaker 1>tied pipes to the soccer net in the backyard to

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<v Speaker 1>make a homemade goal post. Is that true and if so,

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<v Speaker 1>how well did it work. Oh, it's definitely true. And

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<v Speaker 1>it works so well that it's it's still in my

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<v Speaker 1>backyard today. If I when I come home into my parents' house,

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<v Speaker 1>that you know they still got it up. Um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if it if it's been raining a lot, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to go down to the field or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it just don't feel like drive and I'll just, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>go in the backyard and kick on those posts. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you hit the post and it stay up, you know, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I do remember hit the post sometimes but it would

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<v Speaker 1>stay up. I strapped it with bungee cords, so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I tied it as time as I could, but uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I might have to go fix it after I hit

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<v Speaker 1>the post. But you know that that wasn't the gold

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<v Speaker 1>hit the post, right, That's awesome. We're talking to Evan McPherson.

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<v Speaker 1>The coal Quits are the first family of NFL punters.

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<v Speaker 1>I think four members of the coal Quit family have

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<v Speaker 1>punted in the NFL. And it seems like there's something

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<v Speaker 1>in the McPherson DNA because your older brother was a

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<v Speaker 1>college punter, your younger brother is apparently the number one

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<v Speaker 1>rated high school kicker in the country, and obviously you

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<v Speaker 1>are on the verge of an NFL career. What is

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<v Speaker 1>it with the McPherson family and kicking and punting, man, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's just just a couple of super competitive

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<v Speaker 1>brothers that that grew up playing uh, you know, all

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<v Speaker 1>sorts of sports. We grew up playing everything and um

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<v Speaker 1>out in the front yard or backyard, and we always,

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<v Speaker 1>uh just compete with each other, try to beat each other,

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<v Speaker 1>and so um whenever our oldest brother kind of picked

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<v Speaker 1>this whole kicking thing up and you know, started um

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<v Speaker 1>doing it. You know, we all took interest and we

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<v Speaker 1>saw you could go to college for free. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that was really cool, and then we just started to, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, try and get as good as we can.

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<v Speaker 1>But um no, I mean I think, you know, with

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<v Speaker 1>the long family lines of you know NFL players or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, good athletes, I just think it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a make sure you got three competitive brothers that just

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<v Speaker 1>love to beat each other and trying to get better

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<v Speaker 1>than one another, and it kind of just turns out

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<v Speaker 1>to h to benefit the whole family. It's been awesome,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. I suspect your parents probably love that go

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<v Speaker 1>to college for free. In Yeah, for sure, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>they actually bribe us with. A see, if we get

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<v Speaker 1>a scholarship and then I'll have to pay for college.

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<v Speaker 1>Will buys a car for college, So pretty much just

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<v Speaker 1>like a sports car, you know, something a little nicer

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<v Speaker 1>than you normally get. That's good, that's good finances on

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<v Speaker 1>their part, because a new car is a lot cheaper

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<v Speaker 1>than a college education these days. So on televised football coverage,

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen the yellow first down line obviously, and then

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<v Speaker 1>in recent years, networks have added the green line for

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<v Speaker 1>field goal range, so that when a team reaches that line,

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<v Speaker 1>it's supposedly within range for the field goal kicker. On

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<v Speaker 1>at least one Florida game last year, the green line

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<v Speaker 1>was at the forty five yard line, which would be

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<v Speaker 1>a sixty two yard field goal under normal conditions. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that about right for you? Definitely? For that game, we

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<v Speaker 1>had some wind in favor of the direction we were going,

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<v Speaker 1>And before every game, coach one would kind of come

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<v Speaker 1>up and just you know, ask me how I'm feeling,

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<v Speaker 1>what's what's the wind doing? And you know how far

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<v Speaker 1>back we think we can go? And um, yeah, I think, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with everything in favor, you know, wind and

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<v Speaker 1>conditions and all that, I think that's definitely, uh, definitely doable.

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<v Speaker 1>And um yeah, I mean you may you may see

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<v Speaker 1>um the field goal line, you know, on the forty

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<v Speaker 1>five on a Sunday. You know, you never know, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>definitely be paying attention this year. We're talking to Evan McPherson.

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<v Speaker 1>Part of your job is handling stressful situations. Does that

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<v Speaker 1>come naturally to you or have you, you know, studied

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<v Speaker 1>breathing techniques or little tricks to deal with those stressful situations? Yeah? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I think a lot goes into it. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think, um, you know, part of it that you

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<v Speaker 1>no one can just really learn, UM is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>or learning from experience, UM, learn from failure and you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, succeeding in those moments as well, because um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know they say that you know you you remember,

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<v Speaker 1>um the miss kicks probably a lot more than the makes,

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<v Speaker 1>and UM, you just never want that to happen again.

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<v Speaker 1>And so UM, you're kind of just finding that in

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<v Speaker 1>your head, i'd say, in those stress of situations, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you try to stay as calm and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>collected as possible, and you know, I think it's just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a mixture of you know, I've been here before,

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<v Speaker 1>you know I can do it. Um, so many reps

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<v Speaker 1>in practice and all I got to do is hit

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<v Speaker 1>this one field goal so you know, it's just really

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<v Speaker 1>not overthinking it and just kind of going out there

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<v Speaker 1>and and doing your job. What do you do when

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<v Speaker 1>the opposing coach tries to ice you? I mean, nothing different. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>they asked me, we'll take it. We'll take a practice kick.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll take that. See how I'm feeling on the field. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we'll step up and we'll bring the one

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<v Speaker 1>right after the time out. UM. That's kind of the mindset.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's happened. It's happened at Texas A and M

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<v Speaker 1>this past year. UM at Florida, and you know that's

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<v Speaker 1>that just went out there, regrouped, and you know, hit it.

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<v Speaker 1>One of your coaches at Florida was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals all time best kicker, Shane Graham. What has he

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<v Speaker 1>told you about the franchise in the city. But you

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<v Speaker 1>know he's told me a little bit about Cincinnati and

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<v Speaker 1>you know his time there, he said, you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>really enjoyed it the city. UM. You know, the fans

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<v Speaker 1>are are great fans, loyal fans, and UM, you know

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<v Speaker 1>there's gonna be there to support the team with whatever

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<v Speaker 1>we do. And UM, obviously, UM, coach Graham was kicking

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<v Speaker 1>under um coach Simmons. And so he was telling me

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<v Speaker 1>about coach Simmons and you know what he's to be

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<v Speaker 1>like and just what to expect. I guess um up

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<v Speaker 1>in Cincinnati gave me some food recommendations and and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 1>So so you're coming to a franchise that has a

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<v Speaker 1>snapper and a holder that have been working together for

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<v Speaker 1>more than a decade, assuming those guys are are in

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<v Speaker 1>those roles to begin the season, How helpful is that

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<v Speaker 1>for you? Yeah? No, I mean Kevin and Clark have

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<v Speaker 1>been uh a lot of help to me, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>even in this uh kind of mini camp phase and

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, picking their brain about um, you know

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL. How let's say I'll practice works or um,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean to to recovery or you know, to save

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<v Speaker 1>my money too. I mean, the they've helped me with

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot, and you know, I think it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a it's a real blessing to have them, um to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of guide me along. And um it's yeah, you say,

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<v Speaker 1>teach me the ropes because you know, this is my

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<v Speaker 1>first first year and so I'm gonna need to learn

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<v Speaker 1>everything I can't and if they've done a great job

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<v Speaker 1>teach me, and I'm excited to get to work with

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<v Speaker 1>them for sure. So, as I said at the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>we're about two weeks away from the start of camp.

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<v Speaker 1>This will be my eleventh as the Bengals announcer, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fired up. It's like, you know, getting ready for

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas morning. I can only imagine what it's like for

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<v Speaker 1>a rookie getting ready for his first NFL training camp.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you articulate just how how eager you are to

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<v Speaker 1>get here and get rolling? No, I mean I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>fired up to get back in the Cincinnati. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a blast coming up there for about a month,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, printicipating like the OTAs and everything, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say I wasn't ready to leave. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to stay and I just keep kicking with the

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<v Speaker 1>team and you know, hanging out with all the guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and so yeah, I can't tell you X I am

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<v Speaker 1>to get back ups there, and this time is for real.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's no break when we get up there.

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<v Speaker 1>We're we're competing for a spot for the job, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're rolling into the season. You know, I'm super excited

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<v Speaker 1>and and can't wait to go down to Tampa August fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>We are looking forward to us seeing you in action

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<v Speaker 1>this season. Enjoy the rest of your time with your

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<v Speaker 1>family this offseason, and thanks for the time today. Really

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate it. Yeah, for sure, thank you. Evan is the

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<v Speaker 1>favorite to win the job, but we'll have to beat

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<v Speaker 1>out Austin Sibert at training camp. Austin went six for

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<v Speaker 1>eight on field goal tries for Cincinnati last year and

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<v Speaker 1>made all eight of his extra points. The Bengals Booth

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<v Speaker 1>I spoke to him this week about the state of

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals. Adam, I want to start with how you

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<v Speaker 1>ended your Bengals preview. You write that you believe the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals are going to be one of the most enjoyable

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<v Speaker 1>teams to watch in twenty twenty one. I obviously hope

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<v Speaker 1>you are right. What are you eager to see this

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<v Speaker 1>season out of Cincinnati? Well, I think there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of cool things going on with this team, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think the accumulation of all this offensive talent is going

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<v Speaker 1>to finally start showing itself. And I made the joke

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<v Speaker 1>and I reference that, you know, even though Zach Taylor

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<v Speaker 1>is an offensive minded coach, we really haven't seen the improvement,

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<v Speaker 1>which isn't completely fair because there's been some injuries. Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow last year, Joe Mixon went down with an injury,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's tough to really judge him on what he's

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<v Speaker 1>been able to do. But I think Jamar Chase and

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<v Speaker 1>even though he comes in and he hasn't played football

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<v Speaker 1>and in kind of a why, I still think this

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<v Speaker 1>receiving cord is amazing. And I love Kei Higgins. Tyler

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<v Speaker 1>Boyd is one of the most slept on players in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL. I don't know why more people don't love him,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's awesome. And so I really do believe that

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals are going to be this team that they

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<v Speaker 1>are just gonna be super fun to watch and a

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<v Speaker 1>team that, you know, fantasy implications aside, it's just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be one that I want to go out and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>interested to see what they've got going on. I think that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, over the last couple of years, they've done

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<v Speaker 1>a nice job of putting together a nice little team there,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm hoping to see finally start to pay off

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<v Speaker 1>this season. All right, I'm glad you mentioned Jamar Chase

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<v Speaker 1>because there are a couple of big offseason storylines here

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<v Speaker 1>in Cincinnati. And number one, should they have drafted the

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver or should they have drafted offensive lineman Piney Sewell?

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<v Speaker 1>Number five? Overall, you think the Bengals got it right, correct?

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<v Speaker 1>I really do. And if it wasn't Jamar Chase, if

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<v Speaker 1>they were, if they were reaching for Kadarius Tony or

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<v Speaker 1>somebody like that, then yeah, let's have that conversation. And

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<v Speaker 1>I just really believe that Chase is one of those

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<v Speaker 1>generational talents that we've seen out of the wide receiver

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<v Speaker 1>position over the last couple of years. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>the chemistry that he has shown, you know, with your

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback with Joe Burrow, they've got that kind of chemistry.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I talk about forgive me if I get

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<v Speaker 1>the reference run, but I think I made a DiCaprio

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<v Speaker 1>brad Pit type of analogy. If not it was Han

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<v Speaker 1>Solo and whatever. It was something that's super on brand

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<v Speaker 1>for me. But I really do believe that that was

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<v Speaker 1>the right way to go. And you know, everybody acts

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<v Speaker 1>like Sewell is some automatic prospect, but he didn't play

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<v Speaker 1>last year either, and that's you know, none of these

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<v Speaker 1>things are guaranteed in life. And I thought that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you use the second round pick on a tackle. You

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<v Speaker 1>addressed the position last year in the draft he signed

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<v Speaker 1>Riley Reeves, like they did a good job. They've done

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<v Speaker 1>a good job over the last couple of years of

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<v Speaker 1>upgrading the offensive line, and it's not like one rookie

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<v Speaker 1>is going to come in and change that, whereas Chase

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<v Speaker 1>can be somebody that's felt throughout the entire offense. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just going to open it up for t Higgins.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this gonna, you know, open up the running game?

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<v Speaker 1>Like there's a lot of different possibilities that having a

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<v Speaker 1>guy like Jamar Chase on your football field does for you.

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<v Speaker 1>And I really do believe that it was the right

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<v Speaker 1>pit for the record. You went with DiCaprio Pitt from

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<v Speaker 1>the from the Quentin Tarantino movie I'm So Predictable, an

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<v Speaker 1>excellent comparison. We're talking to Adam Reik from NFL dot

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<v Speaker 1>Com and the NFL Network. The other big storyline for

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals in the offseason involved this question, did they

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<v Speaker 1>do enough to improve the offensive line? You project the

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<v Speaker 1>team MVP this year to be Riley Reef. I assume

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<v Speaker 1>you're being a little bit facetious, but do you think

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<v Speaker 1>they did enough to protect Joe Burrow? Well? That is

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, I mean I think that anytime you

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<v Speaker 1>do these pieces, it's so easy to just fall back

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<v Speaker 1>on the quarterbacks the most important player, because it really is.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm a bear span so I know how important

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback position can be. But I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, again, this was a huge move for of

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals to bring him in, somebody who's been a

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<v Speaker 1>solid NFL player for a long time. I do know

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<v Speaker 1>the reference I make here. I did talk. I'm positive

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<v Speaker 1>that it was the reference about having a TV in

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<v Speaker 1>the bathroom. It's a luxury, and you know what, like

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<v Speaker 1>I never, I never understood that reference like I would.

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<v Speaker 1>This happened to me one time when I was a

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<v Speaker 1>younger man, when I was in my twenties, because I

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<v Speaker 1>went into somebody's sounds. I'm like, why do you have

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<v Speaker 1>a bathroom in your team? What do you have? What

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<v Speaker 1>do you have a TV in your bathroom? This makes

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<v Speaker 1>no sense to me, Like are you that you that depraved?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what's wrong? You can't go four minutes without seeing

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<v Speaker 1>part of the game. And now as a parent of

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<v Speaker 1>two small toddlers six and three, like, yell, yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>bathroom's the best place in the world because it's the

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<v Speaker 1>only room in the house that's got a lock on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we keep the keep the kids out? And said

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<v Speaker 1>they're watching a little brit almost at British Open. Watched

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<v Speaker 1>the Open for a little bit unimpeded, like it is

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<v Speaker 1>a huge luxury. But I do believe like the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>have been addressing it like they have. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they drafted over the last two years, They've

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<v Speaker 1>used high draft picks on the offensive line. You went

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<v Speaker 1>out there and got a pretty reliable player who has

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<v Speaker 1>proven that he can play on the NFL level. Whereas

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<v Speaker 1>when you're drafting people you don't know, like you you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I would have liked this, you know, to

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<v Speaker 1>be in on Moses more Inner or somebody like that.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a couple other names floating out there, but

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<v Speaker 1>I do believe that they did enough. Like, are they

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<v Speaker 1>going to go out there and they're gonna have the

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<v Speaker 1>best offensive line in the league. They are not, But

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<v Speaker 1>at this point, what you want them to be is

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<v Speaker 1>be decent, like being pretty good. Like I'm an Angels fan,

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<v Speaker 1>so I understand this all too well. Where it's like

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<v Speaker 1>you need pitching and you don't need to have dominant starters.

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<v Speaker 1>You just need to have somebody who's good enough to like,

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<v Speaker 1>don't give up more than six runs a game because

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<v Speaker 1>your offense is going to score. And they think the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals are in that that position, it's like, Okay, if

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<v Speaker 1>Burrol gets hit once in a while, that's fine, but

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<v Speaker 1>don't get him kill. Let him go out there and

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<v Speaker 1>do his thing because you got the playmakers, you got

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<v Speaker 1>the team. Just go out there. Just just be adequate,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that's going to be enough. The first

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<v Speaker 1>time I ever had a TV in a hotel bathroom,

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like the richest man in the world. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's unbelievable like that. I remember, like when I was

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<v Speaker 1>a kid, we were in whatever, we were traveling across

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<v Speaker 1>the country. I remember when the phone in the bathroom

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<v Speaker 1>was a thing. Oh my god, this is this is

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest. Now you had a TV. You're like, I

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<v Speaker 1>might just live here. We're talking to Adam Rank. You

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<v Speaker 1>can follow him on Twitter at Adam rank R. A

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<v Speaker 1>n K so Riley Reef was the Bengals' biggest offensive

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<v Speaker 1>addition in free agency, but they really spent big on defense.

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<v Speaker 1>Trey Hendrickson, Larry Ogan, Joby hit obey A Wooja, Mike Hilton,

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<v Speaker 1>and others. What did you think of the spending spree

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<v Speaker 1>on d I thought that was pretty smart. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's a pretty good way to go about it. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's something that the Bengals have always been

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good at, is having a good defense. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>know it's funny I'm preaching to the choir about this,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm telling you from like a national level, like

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<v Speaker 1>it always kind of it tickles me a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>because over the last couple of years things haven't been

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<v Speaker 1>great obviously for Cincinnati, but it's like, do we not

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<v Speaker 1>remember like the previous you know, outside of the Zach

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor here, like there was a string where they were

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<v Speaker 1>making the playoffs every year, Like this is this is

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<v Speaker 1>an organization that has shown stability. They really believe in

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<v Speaker 1>their coaches. They kept Marvin Lewis around for a while,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I trust them when they go out there

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<v Speaker 1>and they make these moves. And I thought that going

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<v Speaker 1>out and putting a little bit more into the defensive

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<v Speaker 1>side of the football, you know, especially when you're in

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<v Speaker 1>a division. It's got Cleveland, it's got a pretty excellent

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line. They're doing well offensively with Kevin Stapanski, the Ravens.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously with Lamar Jackson. I think that he's an excellent player.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it makes sense to go out there and

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<v Speaker 1>really kind of root the strength of this team in defense,

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<v Speaker 1>because what you want, and again it goes back to

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the offensive liness is like just be adequate,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just just don't get your quarterback killed. And similarly,

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<v Speaker 1>you can look at the defense and say, look, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to be a shutdown defense. You don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to win every game ten to nine. You've got players

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<v Speaker 1>out there who can help score points for you. So

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<v Speaker 1>you just need to go out there and when you

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<v Speaker 1>need to make a stop, when you need to make

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<v Speaker 1>a crucial you know, like a crucial play here or there,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got the players who can do that. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think that the Bengals did very well. I thought they

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<v Speaker 1>spent pretty wisely. I think that you know, to a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people, it's not going to be big time names.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not bringing in JJ Watt or something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>which goes of course like that generates a lot of buzz.

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<v Speaker 1>But what you did is brought in pretty good football players,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think is the key to this team. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the AFC North. Because you wrote state of

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<v Speaker 1>the Franchise stories about every team in the NFL. The

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals are in a division where the other three teams

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<v Speaker 1>all won at least eleven games last year and went

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<v Speaker 1>to the playoffs. How do the Ravens, Browns, and Steelers

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<v Speaker 1>stack up in your opinion? Well, I believe that the

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<v Speaker 1>Ravens and the Browns are probably the two better teams,

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<v Speaker 1>are the two best teams in that devision. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm telling tales out of school. I know a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people are kind of expecting some regression from

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<v Speaker 1>the Cleveland Browns, and I could see that, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>so good on the lines that you know, the offensive

0:24:21.880 --> 0:24:24.600
<v Speaker 1>line in Cleveland, according to Pro Football focus is the

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<v Speaker 1>best in the NFL, and I find that hard to

0:24:26.600 --> 0:24:29.399
<v Speaker 1>disagree with them, even you know, you know, they got

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<v Speaker 1>rid of Kevin Zeitler a couple of years ago, to

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<v Speaker 1>bringing Odell Beckham junior. They've done a nice job of

0:24:33.960 --> 0:24:37.440
<v Speaker 1>keeping that offensive line great. They brought into Davian Clowney

0:24:37.440 --> 0:24:41.560
<v Speaker 1>to play alongside of Miles Miles Garrett, and so you're like, Okay,

0:24:41.840 --> 0:24:44.040
<v Speaker 1>that's that's a pretty good team. I think that they're

0:24:44.040 --> 0:24:46.200
<v Speaker 1>going to be very good. I think the Ravens are good.

0:24:46.200 --> 0:24:49.480
<v Speaker 1>They're well coached. I think Lamar Jackson is a good player.

0:24:49.480 --> 0:24:52.240
<v Speaker 1>I know everybody wants him to throw outside the numbers,

0:24:52.240 --> 0:24:54.920
<v Speaker 1>but it's like, yeah, he's He's still been pretty good

0:24:55.000 --> 0:24:57.280
<v Speaker 1>no matter what whatever he's doing, it's still working. Like

0:24:57.320 --> 0:24:59.800
<v Speaker 1>they're getting to the playoffs. They want a playoff game

0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:03.639
<v Speaker 1>last year, like they're inching along. The team that I

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<v Speaker 1>believe is beatable is the Pittsburgh Steelers, And even though

0:25:07.280 --> 0:25:09.440
<v Speaker 1>they started off eleven and oh last year, there were

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<v Speaker 1>some signs about maybe this isn't going as well as

0:25:13.280 --> 0:25:16.200
<v Speaker 1>people would like to believe. And of course, the Steelers

0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:19.080
<v Speaker 1>are one of those teams who historically have done well

0:25:19.080 --> 0:25:21.720
<v Speaker 1>of just rebuilding, and they don't really seem to miss people.

0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:24.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, they let their receivers go all the time

0:25:24.119 --> 0:25:26.720
<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't matter. They find four more who are

0:25:26.760 --> 0:25:29.480
<v Speaker 1>just as capable. I'm serious, Like, whenever they draft a receiver,

0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:30.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well, that guy's going to be the best

0:25:30.960 --> 0:25:34.920
<v Speaker 1>player in the NFL apparently because if Kevin and Kevin

0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Colbert finds him, that he's obviously good. But I look

0:25:38.520 --> 0:25:41.360
<v Speaker 1>at this team, and I look at the offensive line

0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:43.880
<v Speaker 1>and all all the changes that they made. Now, they

0:25:43.880 --> 0:25:46.400
<v Speaker 1>didn't play well last year, so he could reason that, well,

0:25:46.440 --> 0:25:48.320
<v Speaker 1>they got rid of the guys who weren't good, they're

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<v Speaker 1>bringing in other players, maybe it'll be better. And that's true,

0:25:51.600 --> 0:25:54.119
<v Speaker 1>but they still got Ben Roethlisberger, who is playing with

0:25:54.200 --> 0:25:57.080
<v Speaker 1>a couple of hurt knees last year. And to me,

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that they're going into this offseason going into

0:26:00.560 --> 0:26:03.719
<v Speaker 1>the season, I should say with Ben Roethlisberger backed up

0:26:03.720 --> 0:26:07.159
<v Speaker 1>by Mason Rudolph, Like, why that doesn't concern anybody, like

0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:09.520
<v Speaker 1>of all the quarterbacks where you're like, yeah, I don't know,

0:26:09.640 --> 0:26:12.919
<v Speaker 1>Like he's like the quarterbacks he was drafted with they

0:26:13.080 --> 0:26:15.760
<v Speaker 1>all retired. Now I believe that Chob was the final one.

0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:21.000
<v Speaker 1>I think it's Rivers, Eli and then Shob have retired. Roethlisberger.

0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:22.639
<v Speaker 1>As tough as he is, I know it's been a

0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:25.240
<v Speaker 1>lot Like he plays, he plays like that's the thing.

0:26:25.240 --> 0:26:27.320
<v Speaker 1>He gets hurt, but he plays. It's like that's a

0:26:27.400 --> 0:26:29.879
<v Speaker 1>big ask for me. And I know they're bringing in

0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Nage Harris and he'll probably be excellent, but I'm like this,

0:26:32.680 --> 0:26:34.880
<v Speaker 1>ste I don't know. There's just something about the Steelers

0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:36.840
<v Speaker 1>that I think that that's a team that you can

0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:38.439
<v Speaker 1>go out there and get him. Of course, the Bengals

0:26:38.440 --> 0:26:41.560
<v Speaker 1>beat them last year a Monday Night football, which was amazing,

0:26:41.640 --> 0:26:43.880
<v Speaker 1>which is I listen, I've rooted for a team that's

0:26:43.920 --> 0:26:46.399
<v Speaker 1>been bad for a while. When you get one of

0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:49.760
<v Speaker 1>those primetime wins over your arrival, that's the great. Like

0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:52.240
<v Speaker 1>I still remember, and I know this is a Bengals podcast,

0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:55.880
<v Speaker 1>so just forgive me as I talk about Jay Cutler

0:26:56.440 --> 0:27:00.359
<v Speaker 1>beating the Packers on Thanksgiving of like the season sock,

0:27:00.480 --> 0:27:03.560
<v Speaker 1>our team was terrible, but I remember just being like,

0:27:03.640 --> 0:27:06.080
<v Speaker 1>you know what, Like we beat the Packers on a

0:27:06.160 --> 0:27:10.000
<v Speaker 1>game when everybody's watching. That's enough for me and I

0:27:10.160 --> 0:27:12.800
<v Speaker 1>but I do believe I will say this though, So

0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:14.920
<v Speaker 1>last year that was cool, Like that's fun for the

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Bengals last year. I think now is the time of

0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:19.120
<v Speaker 1>like that was fun, Like it's it's cool to get

0:27:19.160 --> 0:27:22.600
<v Speaker 1>moral victories. You got to start getting actual victories at

0:27:22.600 --> 0:27:24.639
<v Speaker 1>this point, like you've you've done it. Okay, listen, this

0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:28.119
<v Speaker 1>is Zach's third year. This is another you know, hopefully

0:27:28.200 --> 0:27:30.720
<v Speaker 1>Joe is healthy and ready to go, Like, you gotta

0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:32.919
<v Speaker 1>win some games this season. I don't want to be rude.

0:27:33.160 --> 0:27:35.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to put two radio expectations on you,

0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:37.480
<v Speaker 1>but you got to go out there and win some

0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:40.879
<v Speaker 1>games this season. And that's the perfect segue to my

0:27:40.960 --> 0:27:44.800
<v Speaker 1>final question. Because I started our conversation with the end

0:27:44.840 --> 0:27:47.160
<v Speaker 1>of the story that you wrote on NFL dot Com.

0:27:47.160 --> 0:27:49.480
<v Speaker 1>I want to end it with the start because the

0:27:49.560 --> 0:27:55.080
<v Speaker 1>headline reads is a turnaround led by Joe Burrow imminent.

0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:58.760
<v Speaker 1>What's your answer to that question post in the headline?

0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:03.280
<v Speaker 1>You know, I do believe it is. I love I

0:28:03.400 --> 0:28:05.560
<v Speaker 1>love Joe Burrow. I know I put this in the

0:28:05.560 --> 0:28:08.760
<v Speaker 1>piece too. Is the one thing about the Bengals that's

0:28:08.800 --> 0:28:10.760
<v Speaker 1>crazy to me? And I was thinking about it, like

0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:13.359
<v Speaker 1>I again, not to go back to be rooting for

0:28:13.359 --> 0:28:16.159
<v Speaker 1>the Bears. But the Bengals, you guys have never like

0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:19.720
<v Speaker 1>there's been some David Klingler the years or whatever, Keilly Smith.

0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:23.119
<v Speaker 1>You guys always have a good quarterback and you're always competitive.

0:28:23.200 --> 0:28:25.440
<v Speaker 1>You can go back to Ken Anderson, you know, the

0:28:25.560 --> 0:28:29.320
<v Speaker 1>leads to Boomera Assias and the Carson Palmer and a

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:32.360
<v Speaker 1>Dalton was a good player. Like I'm gonna I'll fight

0:28:32.440 --> 0:28:34.480
<v Speaker 1>that battle. I think Andy Dalton was a fine NFL

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:37.240
<v Speaker 1>quarterback or still is. And now you got Joe Burrow,

0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:40.800
<v Speaker 1>which is amazing, and so I think that you have

0:28:41.000 --> 0:28:44.360
<v Speaker 1>proven that you're going to be a competitive team like

0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:48.400
<v Speaker 1>That's it always tickles me that the Bengals get roped

0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:50.840
<v Speaker 1>into this thing about like one of the worst franchises

0:28:50.880 --> 0:28:52.720
<v Speaker 1>in the league, and you're like why, Like they're in

0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:54.880
<v Speaker 1>the playoff. Like I think of them more as a

0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:58.120
<v Speaker 1>playoff team than anything else, Like they're always in the mix,

0:28:58.440 --> 0:29:01.120
<v Speaker 1>like going back to all those banks and everything. So

0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:04.040
<v Speaker 1>I really do believe that what they have with Joe

0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:06.480
<v Speaker 1>Burrow now they're going to be a very competitive team

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:10.240
<v Speaker 1>and they're going to start challenging for the AFC North.

0:29:10.280 --> 0:29:12.480
<v Speaker 1>It as you mentioned, though, it is one of the

0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:15.480
<v Speaker 1>toughest divisions in football. Three teams that won at least

0:29:15.520 --> 0:29:18.280
<v Speaker 1>eleven games. Three teams, and I know that I'm probably

0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:21.440
<v Speaker 1>more harsh on the Steelers than anybody else. Three teams

0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:25.080
<v Speaker 1>that are expected to compete for playoff spots this year.

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:28.400
<v Speaker 1>So there's a very real possibility that the Bengals could

0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:30.480
<v Speaker 1>be one of those teams that's kind of a mid carter,

0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:33.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, seven eight, nine wins, which doesn't get them

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:35.760
<v Speaker 1>in the playoffs. But I do believe, you know, if

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:38.320
<v Speaker 1>Zach Taylor is the coach that we think he can be,

0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:40.640
<v Speaker 1>I want him to be. I like Zach. I know

0:29:40.680 --> 0:29:43.200
<v Speaker 1>I made fun of them, but I like Zach Taylor.

0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:45.600
<v Speaker 1>I liked him when he was with the Rams and everything,

0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:47.480
<v Speaker 1>so it's like, I want him to succeed. I think

0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:51.120
<v Speaker 1>that it is. It is feasible, and there is talent here.

0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:52.880
<v Speaker 1>A lot of it is the injuries. You know, they've

0:29:52.880 --> 0:29:54.920
<v Speaker 1>got to be healthy. They got to be but that's

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:58.400
<v Speaker 1>every team, you know, honestly, So as long as they're healthy,

0:29:58.480 --> 0:30:01.560
<v Speaker 1>I think they turn around is definitely imminent. I think

0:30:01.560 --> 0:30:03.920
<v Speaker 1>this team has pointed in the right direction, and I

0:30:03.960 --> 0:30:05.840
<v Speaker 1>think the Bengals it's not going to be long before

0:30:05.880 --> 0:30:09.760
<v Speaker 1>they're back in the playoff mix. Adam, I really enjoyed

0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:12.480
<v Speaker 1>your State of the Franchise stories. I recommend them to

0:30:12.520 --> 0:30:15.440
<v Speaker 1>people that haven't read them yet on NFL dot Com.

0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:17.600
<v Speaker 1>You obviously put a lot of work into doing all

0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:20.640
<v Speaker 1>of these season previews, and I really appreciate your time today.

0:30:20.680 --> 0:30:23.479
<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much. Hey, thank you so much. Appreciate it

0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:26.600
<v Speaker 1>for our annual visit. Let's do it again. Let's make

0:30:26.600 --> 0:30:28.320
<v Speaker 1>it sooner next time. But thank you so much for

0:30:28.360 --> 0:30:31.520
<v Speaker 1>having me by. Thanks to Adam and Evan, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to do it for this episode of the Bengals

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