1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to this episode The Debo and Joe. I'm your host, 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: James Debo Harrison. I'm here with my co hosts Joe Hayden. Sir, 3 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: look here, baby, please make sure you like, subscribe and 4 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: download the show wherever you get your podcasts. I'm gonna 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: mute this so y'all can't hear man. Yes, sir, look here, man. 6 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: We live from Radio row here. Super Bowl six Ye 7 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: shir Joe. 8 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 2: What's up, Debo? How you doing anything? I'm doing great, brother, 9 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 2: doing great. I'm not too sore from yesterday. Great workout, 10 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 2: you know, not too crazy, a little core, a little 11 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 2: the cardio was crazy. I was thinking before we went 12 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 2: out there, you said we got an hour on the treadmill, 13 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 2: and I'm like, there's no way I can do an 14 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 2: hour on a treadmill, no matter what elevation, the miles 15 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 2: an hour heart rate was going. But I knew I 16 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: could do it because I wasn't going to let myself 17 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: down from doing a treadmill walk with you, no question, 18 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 2: no question. 19 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: Brother. 20 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: It was good work, good work. I felt great. I 21 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: felt great, great sweat, great everything, but I felt I 22 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 2: felt amazing. The cores good, looking good, feeling good, great 23 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 2: court work out too. But that's what I'm trying to 24 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 2: buy My hips a little tight. You saw you saw 25 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: the little drill when I'm. 26 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: Kicking my legs up. That hip bad. He was talking 27 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: about how leg east because my hip telling what's going on? 28 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: Though, I got a hip impingement depot and it's been 29 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 2: happening for a while. I need to get rehab on 30 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: some treatment. But yeah, my my hip flexes are just 31 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: a little too tight. Okay, I gotta loosen them up. 32 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 2: I'm'na get some treatment and gets some rehab. Gotta get 33 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 2: the dry needling. 34 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 1: I understand. 35 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 2: You have a good time last night helping Yes, yes, yes, 36 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 2: say Shay party was dope. Got to see a lot 37 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 2: of friends, Steve when they was there, TJ. Ward, Richard Sherman. 38 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 2: Running in the dudes is always always a good time. 39 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, so while I ran into a couple of people, 40 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: but uh, it's kind of hard to talk to people there, 41 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: like they you can't really hear it here, you can't 42 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: really hear me se so guess oh yeah, because I 43 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: got get into the mic. Yeah, get in the depot. 44 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: We can hear I can't hear us. Ain't saying they 45 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: can't hear us. Can y'all hear it? Can you hear me? 46 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 3: Good? 47 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 4: Can you hear me? 48 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: Now? Can you hear me? 49 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 4: Now? 50 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: All right? So we got that, we did that. Hey, 51 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 1: what time did you get out of there? Though? 52 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 2: That's time I get out of the I saw you 53 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 2: make the Irish exit. You ain't say by to nobody. 54 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 2: I thought you was going to the bathroom and then 55 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 2: you just slid. So you probably left around eleven thirty. 56 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 2: I was there probably twenty twenty more minutes after I 57 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 2: got out of the night. I ain't stay out too 58 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: late midnight, midnight because we had to be up here shooting. 59 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 2: This is this is eight o'clock. This is eight o'clock shoot. 60 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: Waking up six o'clock in the morning. It's different than 61 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: back in the East Coast. Yeah, yeah, for sure, man. 62 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: I got out of here. I looked at my clock. 63 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: It was ten fifty nine. I told somebody, I said, 64 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: we're about to be out of here at eleven. As 65 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: soon as it clicked eleven, I said, ay, it's time. 66 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: Time ago. By the time I looked down, got everything going, 67 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: you know, it's eleven eleven. I was out the door. 68 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: Great time. Eleven eleven eleven eleven was out of eleven eleven? Was? 69 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: What time was you sleep. 70 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 5: That? 71 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: I don't know because I was contemplating should I go 72 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 1: and get up? Yeah? Go ahead, I got you. Yeah, 73 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: So should I go get up and try and keep 74 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: my East Coast time? Because you're still on that clock? 75 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: Did you change it? Did you change your clock? Did 76 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: you change your clock yet? Oh you're still okay? Okay 77 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: to that one o'clock get up? You was getting it 78 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: at one o'clock. It's crazy one o'clock get up kind 79 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: of hurt, you know what I'm saying, especially you know 80 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: when you had me out all night eating. You know 81 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like that sets back my sixteen hours 82 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: where I need to fast and you know, get my 83 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: body to adjust. Okay, no, for sure, So my bad, 84 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: my bad throwing off your schedule. Yeah, you threw all 85 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: my schedule. That's all right, I'm so good. That's sorry. 86 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 2: Because what about the video though about your man throwing 87 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 2: all the damn all your waters on your on your driveway. 88 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe when you posted it. I thought it 89 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: was fake. 90 00:03:58,080 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 2: I thought it was like, I know those are your 91 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: type water, because you know when we got here. 92 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: He went to the. 93 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: Grocery store and you got thirty gallons of water. It 94 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 2: wasn't number but like three four cases. Man, leader, you're 95 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 2: hydrated man. But your man disrespected. He was throwing them 96 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 2: just all over your damn door stuff. Listen, what's good 97 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 2: with him? They gotta they gotta be playing. They got 98 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 2: you gotta play that shot the video man videos. 99 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: But Amazon, man, he was a little upset that I 100 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: ordered what wasn't five cases of war. Yes, I mean 101 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: it's cheaper on there, that's why you order it on there. 102 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 2: And he said, that's what one thing against me too. 103 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 2: You're you're supposed to be delivering the stuff you backed 104 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 2: it in. 105 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 1: And he was just throwing it all on your on 106 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: your doorstep, dropping its hard, detectiveding hard, too disrespectful. You 107 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: hit me with to see you next Tuesday too. Did 108 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? Don't don't. I don't think. 109 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: I don't think he knows, because you know, I had, 110 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: I had my package just dropped in different names. I 111 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: never put my name. 112 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 2: Don't say James Harrison, No, No, I don't say. 113 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: Like Rob Rob it got it got we got some 114 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: like okay, respect out of control names. You know what 115 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So he came and he dropped the first 116 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: two and uh, he really wasn't that upset about the 117 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: first two. But the next two he dropped. Yeah, he 118 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: was like just just yeah, why don't you Yeah, yeah, 119 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: let's fucking do it. He's the last widow that he dropped. 120 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: The he was, Yeah, he was hot about that one. 121 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: He left with it. He left, He left with to 122 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: see you next tuesday. 123 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 2: Oh he's pet steepend Oh dude, you're going now, you're 124 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 2: gonna order more though. 125 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna order ten next time. Hey to the 126 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: Amazon driver out there, they dropped the water at my house, Listen, 127 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: I'm going to order ten cases for you next time. 128 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: So get yourself in the weight room because you're gonna 129 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: have a lot of work to do. What y'all want 130 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: me to do? You want me to drop this mic 131 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: or something? You want me to lift the mic? What 132 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: you want? It's close, it's close enough or too close? Okay, man, 133 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: I gotta have my mic mife so close to y'all 134 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: need to get some better mices. What do you mean? 135 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: Tilted down till down like that? That good? That cool 136 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: up a little more there you get here, perfect, perfect listen, 137 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: so look here, man, yes, better, I just got a 138 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: I just got a phone call right from from my son. 139 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, see everything, okay, everything okay. 140 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: He had he got into a little little altercation. I 141 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: didn't even get. It's not even take me hot, you 142 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 1: don't that's really I want to find out who his 143 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: daddy is, so I go see him. I want to 144 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: find out who the kid yet issue. I don't find 145 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: out who his daddy is? Off your because that ain't 146 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: something that you know when when you do something like that, 147 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: that's something you don't you can either got from your 148 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: friends or you done learned at home. You know what 149 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying. 150 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: And you you go ahead and you regurgitate that ship 151 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, so it's something okay, you know. I 152 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: don't want you to get. Don't get, don't get. Don't 153 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 2: get too mad. 154 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: Right now. 155 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 2: You held accountable for sure. You can't just get away 156 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 2: with doing stuff for no reasons. There's there's consequences, and 157 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 2: then it upset me like he didn't follow the poor 158 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 2: my son and following protocol. 159 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: Call is touch you? Oh he put his hands on 160 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: your son? Purse, bro, you touch you touched. You touched, 161 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: keep your hands to yourself. But after that, I don't stop. 162 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: You're gonna till somebody pulled me off. He ain't following. 163 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 2: Protocol, okay, because you was a little hot at your son. 164 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 2: I'm hot at the whole you had, the whole situation, 165 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 2: the whole situation. I'm hot, I'm how I am. I 166 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 2: ain't gonna lie. I'm hot. 167 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: You don't even don't even let don't don't they get 168 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: to you byther. I ain't gonna lie. You're gonna be 169 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: like you supposed to, Like I'm supposed to be getting 170 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: a call, like, hey, you know, he need a lawyer 171 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: or something. You know, he put hands on my son 172 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: and it took five teachers to get him up off 173 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: of him my son. You know what I'm saying, Like, 174 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: you're gonna learn this repercussoings and consequences to your action, 175 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: to your actually cussing and consequences out here, Joe Man, 176 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: I just don't I don't understand it. Man, what's good? 177 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: De Bo Bright? Go ahead, I'm gonna switch. I'm switching. 178 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: Let's what. 179 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: I need your energy to get right because getting mad 180 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 2: by son. 181 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: And all that. But you know he's gonna be good. 182 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: He's gonna be good. 183 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:14,559 Speaker 2: Be out here radio row, super Bowl week, feeling good, 184 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 2: hanging out. Yesterday was a great time. Last night was 185 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 2: a great time. What was your best part of the party. 186 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 2: My favorite part of the body, my favorite part of 187 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 2: the party. 188 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: Yes, listen, the music was music was good. Music was good. 189 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: Music was good. 190 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 2: I had a good time. I mean, our conversation with 191 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 2: stephen A was lit. I had a good time when 192 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 2: we were talking. We chopped it up with Steven. I 193 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 2: told you, you know, it is what it is. He 194 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 2: gets you get gets gets you get. 195 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: You what you what. You'd be surprised at what you know. 196 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: But you don't know what you know. Just you know 197 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: from reading in between the lines. You feel me if 198 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: you know, you know, if you know you know? Okay, 199 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: there we go. Oh my, we got we got our 200 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: good man, Jake. 201 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 2: Jake, you doing see you man? 202 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: Good sir, welcome Jay. 203 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 3: What's cracking man? 204 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: Nothing much? 205 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 2: Nothing this up here though, Yes, for sure, I don't 206 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 2: know why you whatever you want. 207 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: The sponsors are I don't know, I don't know. I 208 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: guess I ain't seen to check from them, but I 209 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: guess it's possible. 210 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 3: Get you got paid down for. 211 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: Said you put whatever you want up there. Jay. Hey, man, 212 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: we want to thank you for joining us here. Man. Sure, 213 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: we know you've been doing what you've been doing for 214 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: a long. 215 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 3: Time and you ninety three, yes, yes, No, ninety one 216 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 3: was my first draft draft? 217 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 4: Yeah one, yeah, ninety one. How about that? 218 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: Joe wasn't even born? Yes, I was. I was two 219 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: two of the eighty nine. 220 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 6: Jay. 221 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 3: Actually in that draft, I was like rolling around, you know, 222 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 3: Joe and his like little crib and stuff. 223 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I like that. I like that little char night. Yeah. 224 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: You know, you know, had a long time to great 225 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: relationships here. 226 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt. 227 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 3: So that's what it's about, man, relationships. You know, everybody 228 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 3: tries to go for the scoop instead of relationship. Why 229 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 3: they got it wrong? 230 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, why is that that? You're you know, you're 231 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: you're okay with waiting to get the story out correct 232 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: instead of trying to go ahead and jump there and 233 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: be the first one. 234 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 235 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 3: You know, when I started covering the Giants in ninety three, 236 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 3: I walked down gihan lock croom and I'm like, man, 237 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 3: how could I be different? I had no education, I 238 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 3: got kicked out of my first college, I had like 239 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 3: no education, no experience from like, how could I be different? Well, 240 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 3: one thing I can do is I'm always looking at fight, 241 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 3: you know. So I'm like, all right, if these guys 242 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 3: work forty hours a week, I'll work one hundred, just NonStop, NonStop, NonStop. 243 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 3: But also I looked at it, said, man, how could 244 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 3: I be different? I think these guys all use their 245 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 3: pendels a weapon. I'm gonna start relationships, and look, we're 246 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 3: just in sports, man, I'm not covering to the Middle East, 247 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 3: like I take ourselves too seriously, right, So I started 248 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 3: relationships and my best friend obviously said day one was 249 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 3: my baby sister, Michael Strahan, you know, And that was 250 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 3: out of the gate, right. And It's funny because back 251 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 3: then I was making ninety four hundred bucks a year 252 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 3: and I didn't have enough money. I was living in 253 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 3: New York City. I didn't have enough not in great areas, 254 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 3: and I didn't have enough to take subway to a 255 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 3: bus the Giants stadium back every day. So Stray drove 256 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 3: me back into New York City. He lived in Jersey 257 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 3: every single day from ninety three to ninety nine. In 258 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 3: the days he did in Kurt Men if he did, 259 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 3: she's our host, right, so but no doubt, right, and 260 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 3: here we are all working together. And so I won 261 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 3: like thirty eight Grand Lincoln Tunnel fair. But back then too, 262 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 3: it was just like these relationships. And you guys have 263 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 3: heard me talk a lot about mental health now, and 264 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 3: what people never got is I need teams for here, 265 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 3: to get the room mits in my head to talk 266 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 3: nicely each other. Yes, you guys were all part of 267 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 3: my team. You know, I'll never forget dan quinn Man. 268 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 3: Probably about eight years ago, I'm at the height, like 269 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 3: I'm on Year four Ballers, I'm hosting the UFC, I'm 270 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 3: no more on Insider and Fox Anvil Sunday, and I'm 271 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 3: on my training camp tour. 272 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 4: That I always go to. 273 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 3: Right for years, Right, you got to see me and 274 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 3: Deq's like, what are you doing here? 275 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 4: I said, what do you mean? 276 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 1: This is what I did? 277 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 3: He goes, what are you doing here? I said, what 278 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 3: do you mean? He said, haven't you moved up and 279 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 3: on for this? I said, Bro, there is no up 280 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 3: and on for this. 281 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 4: This is you guys. 282 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 3: Are my male love, you guys in the fight world 283 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 3: or my male love, Like there's no up and on 284 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 3: for this. That's really where the relationships came from. I 285 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 3: always looked at us like we're on one team, you know. 286 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 1: No, I love that man, because that's the biggest part. 287 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: When you really build that real genu of friendship, you 288 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 1: feel like people are looking out for and you that guy. 289 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 3: And listen, I've I've had tough stories and some friends 290 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 3: like I broke all the Balco stuff. A bunch of 291 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 3: my guys were using, you know, and I'm like, hey, 292 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 3: you rather I put it out than somebody else. 293 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 4: For sure, I'm gonna go right down the middle. 294 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 2: You know, what would you say, is there any scoop 295 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 2: that you had that somebody kind of like got out 296 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 2: right before you that you would. 297 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 3: Kind of it happens all the time because I wait 298 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 3: for Fox and itvil Sunday, So like this year, it 299 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 3: happened a couple of times. So like this year, I 300 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 3: was gonna report Brandon Graham was coming out of retirement. 301 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 3: No one knew, and it got out, man, maybe seven 302 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 3: minutes before because I was going because I go on 303 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 3: at what times our show? 304 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 4: Nine? 305 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, show nine o'clock, right, So so we got out 306 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 3: of like eight fifty two. 307 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 4: I'm like damn. 308 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 3: But that's right because listen, the business has changed. 309 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: Now. 310 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 3: What I want to make sure I do is I 311 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 3: break stuff on Fox and itvil Sunday that nobody has 312 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 3: ever heard, and you will. 313 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 4: Man, you're coming out of left field with this. 314 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 3: We're on where I used to do it, and the 315 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 3: way people do it now is you broke news, and 316 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 3: that everybody steals on Twitter on work for Twitter, work 317 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 3: for Fox, right, And that's not break can news. That's 318 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 3: that's not being an insider. That's says who could treat fastest? Well, 319 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 3: I can't treat faster than anybody else, right, So I'm 320 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 3: going to have stuff on that nobody else has. Like 321 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago, you know, Matt Ryan's on 322 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 3: the CBS show opposite us, and I come on to hey, 323 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 3: the Atlanta Falcons are looking to hire Matt Ryan to 324 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 3: be their new president football operations. 325 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 4: That came out of left field, and obviously that's what's happened. 326 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 3: Right, So or I came on with the security report 327 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 3: that DK Metcalf had filed. 328 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 5: You. 329 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: I broke that before you, but you got it. I 330 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: broke that before you, but you actually went on front. 331 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 4: But that's that same show I broke. 332 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 3: I had the actual security report and DK Metcalf had 333 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 3: filed with the Seahawks about that same fan in Detroit 334 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 3: the year before and had all that right, So that 335 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 3: stuff that you can't just steal for me on Twitter. 336 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 5: So no matter what I fox nby, I want to 337 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 5: make it. Must watch the TV. You know, I just 338 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 5: knew of it. They had a report. He went into 339 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 5: that research. But I know you're really big on the 340 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 5: mental health aspect. 341 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 2: How do you think about how do you feel like 342 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 2: the professional athletes present like the issues? 343 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: Do you think there need to be a little bit 344 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: more open? 345 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 4: So oh by far. 346 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 3: So it's funny because I go, you know, and you look, 347 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 3: I'm trying you in mma right, breakable right, and from 348 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 3: our whole thing right is, man, if you are hurt 349 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 3: and tired, you will never ever ever know right. We 350 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 3: will sit there and we'll ramp pressure and ramp pressure 351 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 3: and ramp pressure and ramp pressure. And you made yet 352 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 3: that you made it. We're not going to show not 353 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 3: gonna show it, not going to show it. And you 354 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 3: need that unbreakable mindset on a cage on a football field. 355 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 3: But now we need a whole other unbreakable mindset, off 356 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 3: that field, off that cage where you do show, you 357 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 3: do chi man, you do tell people. And I think 358 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 3: it's a scarier world than ever before. Social media makes 359 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 3: us whole things. Our lives suck. We're comparing ourselves. Everybody 360 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 3: else is filtered, freaking highlight this one second of one day, 361 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 3: and we feel so left out and or listen, I 362 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 3: grew up in a Jersey Short Well, I got my 363 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 3: ass kicked in Jersey Shore. Growing up, it sucked for 364 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 3: a month. Now you're getting your ass kicked one hundred 365 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 3: times a minute on X. 366 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 5: You know. 367 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 3: So, I think the more you do open up these 368 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 3: I always say, these friendships have become brotherhoods. Like this, 369 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 3: she has racist right here is my most prized possession. 370 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 3: This gives me by Michael Phelps. Michael is my dude. 371 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 3: But now when I have a meltdown, I FaceTime him. 372 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 3: It could be horrible. When he has a meltdown, he 373 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 3: facetimes me. But this was a promise that he will 374 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 3: never quit life. That's a fucking brother curse on this shup, 375 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 3: We'll get it, Okay. That's a fucking brotherhood. That's not 376 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 3: friend that's a brotherhood. I will not kill myself. I 377 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 3: promised you. 378 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 4: I'm in right. 379 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 3: And when we get like this, and now we've created 380 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 3: this text chain where all the guys who helped me. 381 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 3: So the Rock is one of them, he's won. Sean 382 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 3: mcvay's one, the Smashing Machine, who's my training partner, who 383 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 3: The Rock just did a movie on't Kerr he's won. 384 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 3: Andrew Whitworth's won, dan Quinn's won. And when any of 385 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 3: us are struggling, we reach out to the group and 386 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 3: we're there. When Shawn lost the other day, man, we 387 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 3: deployed for him. You know, Michael had a really bad 388 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 3: meltdown last week. We deployed for him. We were all 389 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 3: there from him. So that's taken our friendships to a 390 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 3: much different level. And I think that's listen. I think 391 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 3: if you could be vulnerable and open up, yes, that 392 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 3: those people will be there for you when you're twenty five, 393 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 3: thirty five, fifty five, seventy five, that's it right there, 394 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 3: and that's how we're going to survive in this world. 395 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: That was what I's saying. So I'm all in and 396 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: good with the mental health thing. You know, the real 397 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: issues of many of them, But how much of that 398 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: mental health knowledge you think is being overused, because I 399 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: think some of it is being overused. Like you know, 400 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: I feel driving the work because it's raining, I actually 401 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: nervous and all that, and they're using that to get 402 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: off being able from having to go into work and 403 00:17:58,760 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: everything else. 404 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 3: I hear you on and like so my so I 405 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 3: have clinical depression, anxiety ADHD, bipolar. 406 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 4: Who see the anxiety insomnia? Other than that, I'm out of. 407 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 3: The stability, yes, and it's it's hard for me to 408 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 3: get out of bed every day in my life. That 409 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 3: sickness is what makes me great. But I'll never miss 410 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 3: a day of work. I'll never let that thing win 411 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 3: ever ever. Ever, I will fight it. Some days it's 412 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,719 Speaker 3: harder than others. So I get what you're saying, right, 413 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 3: I've made the decision or I'm not going to let 414 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 3: it beat me, and I'm always going to fight back. 415 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: So I hope more people can can get like that. 416 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: But you know, again, not everybody's made Yeah, you know, sure, 417 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: I get here. Look here, you you got the inside 418 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: inside scoop. So why why didn't they really let Bill 419 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: in there? I'm not on the come home now, I'm 420 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: not on the committee. You got relationships. 421 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 4: Somebody let me in her committee? Are you serious? Never 422 00:18:58,520 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 4: let me? 423 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: Do you think they would these writers be the only 424 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: people that vote on. 425 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 3: No, absolutely not. And I've always said that, why no, 426 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 3: Absolutely it should be. But it's not now. Now it's 427 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 3: the Tony Dungeons and Bill pole Ins. 428 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: But I don't know it should be. It should be. 429 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: I think it should be a commite of guys that 430 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: are already in there, that that that especially like that 431 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: first ballot, like first guys should vote for the first 432 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 1: ballot guys. I love that it shouldn't be these writers 433 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: who got to score to settle because so and so 434 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: wasn't media friendly with me. 435 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 3: I love that idea. I haven't heard that yet, and 436 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 3: I freaking love it. I support that idea. 437 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,239 Speaker 1: Did you think it was about the gates? You think 438 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: it's just gatekeeping? No? 439 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 3: No, please, Like I think they're using the excuse. But 440 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 3: if he's not in the first ball then no coach 441 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 3: ever should be in. 442 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: That's That's what I'm saying. Craft out in. I don't know. 443 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: They might pull the pistol on time and tell me, 444 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: hold up that I'm just saying half nice. I'm trying 445 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: to tell you when I went there. I wanted to 446 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 1: hate the dude, but I could. You couldn't, right, I couldn't. Dude, 447 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 1: I love him, I work with him. 448 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 4: I loved you. 449 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 3: And he works his ass off. 450 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 4: Yes, it's being a broadcaster. He works his ass off. 451 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 452 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 2: Well, look, I would ask you about coach T right 453 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 2: before you get off. How do you think about what 454 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 2: is Coach T stepped off from kaching? Do you think 455 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 2: he's going to come back to coaching. No, he's gonna 456 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 2: do TV right now. 457 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 3: I don't think he's gonna he's gonna come back. But 458 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 3: that's I talked to him yesterday. Jud Right now, he's 459 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 3: hanging out with Harley, having a good time. He's being dad, 460 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 3: trying to get himself in shape. He went through a 461 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 3: lot in those nineteen years. Man, he's trying to get 462 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 3: himself going again. 463 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 4: Quick. I am here to promote something Kelby. 464 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 3: Kelbury, which is an ADHD drug which for all my 465 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 3: stuff I've been on over thirty five minutes, none of 466 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 3: them have helped, a lot of them made me worse. 467 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 3: But I got diagnosed with ADHD in eighty nine. Told 468 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 3: me how to learning disability Back then, I never learning 469 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 3: to just be. I just didn't learn the way they talk, right, 470 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 3: And when I've tried to like tell people like ADHD, 471 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 3: it's if I'm sitting in something I'm not interested in, 472 00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 3: it's like drowning. And I want all parents here to 473 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 3: hear this, Like your kid is drowning. And the only 474 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 3: way to get out of that, forget a breath of 475 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 3: fresh air, is to disrupt the class. We're to have 476 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 3: an out person. I'm here to talk to. 477 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 4: Somebody, you know, and we're always get in trouble. 478 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 3: So for the first time, and when I first got diagnosed, 479 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 3: they put me on stimulants, which were not good for 480 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 3: me because when you have depression, you go up, but 481 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 3: then the down is bad and then for people like 482 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 3: us who are violent, it's really bad and you get vicious, 483 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 3: right yeah, yeah, okay, yeah yeah. Yeah. You guys are 484 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 3: you're a model freaking style over areas. Yeah, James and 485 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 3: Santa Claus all the time, right, he's the Easter buddy. 486 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 4: And no, but it's bad. 487 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 3: So I finally found something called Calbury to actually take 488 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 3: a night, which is the opposite of any other ADHD drug, 489 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 3: and it you know, it basically has like when I 490 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 3: got nineteen roommates in my head talking to night oh man, 491 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 3: each other man. It kind of cuts it down to 492 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 3: two second relaxed, go to bed the next morning. If 493 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 3: I'm not on it on foxing about Sunday, I can 494 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 3: be in a segment two. I'm thinking about second three 495 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,479 Speaker 3: like I'm never present. This gets me present and it's uh, 496 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 3: it's it's been a huge. 497 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 6: Help for me. 498 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 1: Where do you talk to a doctor about this? How 499 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: do you? 500 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, go to your doctor about it? Yes, Kelbrey with 501 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 3: out of you key q e l b r e E. 502 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 3: It's really been a game changer for me. 503 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 1: Okay, man, we want to thank you for joining us. Yeah, Man, Lazer, 504 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: I appreciate you, appreciate you. 505 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 2: Thank you very much so much everything, Baby, appreciate Jake 506 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 2: Glazier in the building, Guys. 507 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 1: Lazier in the building, Man Breakabowl Performance, founder of m 508 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: v P, Merging veterans and players. Check it out. So 509 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 1: what's up, baby? Look here, come on, what's up? 510 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 7: Brother? You well? 511 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 3: Good? 512 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: Joe, Joe right up? Yeah? Yes, yes, two thousand and 513 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: four second round draft Choiceyes, sir, yes, sir. Idian Abolis 514 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 1: coach right was was was two time national champion Georgia 515 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: and Texas, right, yes, sir, okay, okay, and currently just receiver. 516 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: How you doing today, Boston good Man? How about yourself? 517 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: I'm doing good Man. I can't Hey look here, I 518 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: ain't never been of value enough to get traded. But 519 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: how did that? How did that feel? Brother? 520 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:37,239 Speaker 3: Uh? 521 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: It was? 522 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 6: It was. 523 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 8: It was definitely surprising a little bit, you know. Uh 524 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 8: for the most part of the writing was kind of 525 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 8: on the wall a little bit, but you know, it's 526 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 8: still kind of came out of nowhere. It's just it 527 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 8: just feels good to be wanted, you know. Oh yeah, 528 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 8: more so than more so than not being wanted anymore. 529 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: Second round draft choice. That's kind of warning. 530 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 3: You know what. 531 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was, I was, I was, I was. 532 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 2: I was picked up two days later, you know what 533 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 2: I'm saying. Hey, so you with New York now right? Yeah, 534 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 2: you met so I was. 535 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,959 Speaker 1: He was my coach back in in Cleveland, my dv's coach. Right. 536 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 1: How do you feel how do you feel his coaching 537 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: style is? 538 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 4: Shoot? 539 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 7: He uh here a true players coach like he he 540 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 7: he could relate to the player. 541 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: You know. 542 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 8: Of course he was a player on time, but like 543 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 8: he he just a true motivator like he ain't gonna 544 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 8: he ain't gonna sugar coat nothing with you. Like if 545 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 8: if if he needs somethingbody he gonna tell you. And 546 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 8: like as a player, I feel like you you don't 547 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 8: really need much motive. 548 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 1: That's what you need. Yeah, sure, and you got your 549 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,719 Speaker 1: man to gt up Gary Wilson. I love that man. 550 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: How you feel like you'll be able to pick his 551 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:48,959 Speaker 1: brain and learn a little bit off of him. 552 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 7: So he a baller like he he he a straight baller, 553 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 7: And it'll just be fun. 554 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 8: You know, we ain't we ain't really get to spend 555 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 8: too much time together when I got traded in, but 556 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 8: you know, getting the whole off season. Yeah, kind of 557 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 8: going into the season, that'll be that'll be fun for sure. 558 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: So definitely how much more you think they'll be able 559 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: to integrate you into that? But you getting the whole 560 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: off season? There is there anything that they talk to 561 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:18,479 Speaker 1: you about opportunities? I mean we're focused or where they 562 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: see it, I don't really know. I'm just I'm just 563 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: kind of prepared to just go in and earn whatever. 564 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: Whatever I go in and earn. And you know, I'm 565 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: always bet on myself of course, so got to you 566 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: can't bet on nobody else. I bet on you who 567 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: will ain't no telling you know what I'm saying. You 568 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You got to well, so I 569 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 1: said you had. I watched the game when you had a. 570 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 2: Little fumble against the closer to the end zone. Yeah, 571 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 2: but I'm not gonna lie to you took the accountability 572 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 2: of it. Sometimes that thing is the hardest thing to 573 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 2: do to win the league or you're a man. 574 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: I just want to let you know, respect you. 575 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 2: And you came out and keep balling like that's what 576 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 2: it's saying, man, not letting nobody ever put you down, 577 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 2: and just knowing that you you got it, keep that 578 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 2: ground going, keep it, keep it pomping. 579 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: So what's that? What's that difficult to bounce back from? 580 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: Did you have to talk to get to your own head? 581 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: Do you have to talk to somebody else? Did? Like? How? 582 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 2: How? 583 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: What was the process of bouncing back from? 584 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 3: Now? 585 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: How was that? 586 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 3: Man? 587 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 5: What? 588 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,239 Speaker 1: What what got you there? Uh? 589 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 7: It was? 590 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: It was more so just kind of the way I 591 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: viewed it. 592 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 8: It was like, okay, like I know, I'm finna have 593 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 8: some type of pushback from this horse, Like you can't 594 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 8: just you can't just live life normally like and like 595 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 8: nothing happened. So I kind of looked at it as like, 596 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 8: you know, it's more so somebody else blessing in my 597 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 8: curse because I know, you know, kind of once I 598 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 8: once I go back out there, like I still play 599 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 8: the same game of football. You know, it was it 600 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 8: was more so just about keeping my confidence up, you know, 601 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 8: while while I'm in practice, while I'm in scout team 602 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 8: like whatever. It is just just trying to trying to 603 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 8: keep that keep that hope alive, you know. 604 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: For sure, keep that knowing you ad all. It's just 605 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 1: a fun It's just a flute play. 606 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 8: Yeah, Like the possibility of that's really happened in the 607 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 8: players like is low. 608 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 609 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: So you did everything you had to do the whole play, 610 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like not like nobody else 611 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: did that. Bro, you hooped out. I just love it. 612 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: What You're gonna finish that and be good to go. So, 613 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: so what what brings you here? What you got going on? Boston? Man? 614 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 8: I'm here right now with dex Com, you know, the 615 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 8: show off, the dex Com G seven. You know, it's 616 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 8: a continuous glue cooas monitor that you slip on the 617 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 8: back of your arm. 618 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: And you know, I was, I was. 619 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 8: I was diagnosed with type one diabetes when I was 620 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 8: sixteen years old. So you know this, this this kind 621 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 8: of came in my life and kind of changed the 622 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 8: game for me. And you know it, it had me 623 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 8: switching from you know, diabetes in football and you know, 624 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 8: really just focusing on my profession and you. 625 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: Know, letting this do the work. So that's that's a 626 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: twenty four hour that you. 627 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 8: Twenty four hour monitor. Right now, we're working with the 628 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 8: fifteen day. You know, the the last product was only 629 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 8: was only for ten days. So so now you know, 630 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 8: you only you only have to have to change this 631 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 8: out I believe once a month or twice a month 632 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 8: maybe yeah, once a while. 633 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, man, I ain't know that you had the diabeta. 634 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 1: That's this stuff, so you sure bro keep it going, 635 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: man like oh yeah yeah. What is that? Like an 636 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: app that connects to your phone or something. 637 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 7: You you hook it up to the phone. 638 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 8: It's a uh it's a Bluetooth device and you know 639 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 8: you hook it up to the Apple Watch as well, 640 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 8: and it's every five minutes, it'll send you an alert 641 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 8: of where your blood sugar is at so you know, 642 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,479 Speaker 8: usually as a diabetic you fer yeah, freaky finger, then 643 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 8: take a shot. You know this also works hand in 644 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 8: hand with the with the punk to which you know 645 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 8: they work hand in hand. And now you don't even 646 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 8: need to take a shot or. 647 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: Once it hits a certain point to pump or automatically 648 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: what you need. Yeah, okay, bro, that's what I'm talking about. 649 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: You need to get more people because this is a 650 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: real thing. You know what I'm saying that that shooting 651 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: yourself all the time. 652 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 2: So people that don't have it don't really recognize it, 653 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 2: don't really know what people are dealing with. 654 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: So appreciate this letting people know the knowledge. And it's dex. 655 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 7: Comx com dex Com G seven G. 656 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: Seven seven fifteen day. My guy is the one that 657 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: y'all want to holler at talk to a mentioned So 658 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: how many times before this had you been in a 659 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: situation where you're like you in the game or something 660 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: and you're like, I'm dying. You gotta prick your finger 661 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: then and try and figure out what's going on. 662 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 8: I kind of so so everywhere I've been, you know, 663 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 8: I always gotta gotta hook up with the nutrition is 664 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 8: so like you know we'll work hand in hand, and 665 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 8: you know, it's it's it's it honestly depend on the day, uh, 666 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 8: depending on the game, depend on you know how I'm 667 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 8: feeling that name. But you know, for the most part, artists, 668 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 8: it's really checking myself kind of every time I step 669 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 8: off the field, you know, for every drive, just to 670 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 8: just to make sure. 671 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 7: And if it's not every. 672 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: Drive then it so before that you had to actually 673 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: just pop your finger every time you can. Yeah. Yeah, 674 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: and you're trying to catch rock like that. 675 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 3: Man. 676 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Man, I got, I got, 677 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: I got, I got a different perspective, but out there 678 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: really really fighting. I I rather I rather get stuck 679 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: with like a real needle than have to prick my finger. 680 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: That's the That's the most annoying thing ever. Dude, they 681 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: got a doctor and they pricked your finger with that thing. Yeah. 682 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: When's the when's your off season program starting this year? Uh? 683 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 8: Shoot, I mean it kind of it kind of started 684 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 8: already a little bit. But I say, I say, I'll 685 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 8: probably pick up once I once I leave here. 686 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 2: I give myself a little bit, like so until the 687 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 2: super Bowl is done. That's when you know that season 688 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 2: is over, we can start getting back to it for sure. 689 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,239 Speaker 2: For up Devo, don't never stop working out. He might 690 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 2: work out every the easiest way. Stay ready so you 691 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 2: don't got to get ready. Never get out of shape. 692 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: If you got something hurt or something like that, give 693 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: it time to get healed up. You ain't got hurt. 694 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 2: Two weeks that's all you need. And it's not like 695 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 2: straight back the routes hard and everything. Just keep your 696 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 2: body right, conditioning all that stuff for sure. 697 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: That ground come on man, for sure. Man, look here, man, 698 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: do we want to thank you for joining us, appreciate 699 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: the conversation, Yes, sir, appreciate you. Brother good old A d. 700 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 2: Mitchell Man, two time national champion, two time, two time 701 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 2: national champ, two time. 702 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: To be more careful. I never had a chan you 703 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That's you know, oh yeah, I 704 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: ain't even never that's you know what I'm saying. That's 705 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: that's never even went to that's what they do. That's 706 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: what I only had one winning season in my career. 707 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: I was six and five and we thought we was 708 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: doing it was our first winning season since like nineteen 709 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: eighty seven. Yet six and five, Yeah, that is winning. 710 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: Whoa that is over five hundred. That's old five hundred. 711 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: Got to be more careful over five hundred. Joe, Look here, baby, 712 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: what's up? I guess we we got questions, we got 713 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: some traders, we got we got some trails. Where we're at, 714 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: we got something over there? We see, we got. What 715 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: we got is it's gonna be behind as they see. 716 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: Oh oh oh they know, they they know. I got 717 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: I got good vision. But that's kind of close, ain't it. 718 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 5: No? 719 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:41,719 Speaker 1: I think it might pop up right there, so we're 720 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: gonna be able to see it. Yeah, I'm gonna do 721 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: like this so I can see it on my camera phone. 722 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: I still can't see it. Yeah, it's all good. What 723 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: we got today though, depo? Who you got? We got? 724 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: We got, we got we got hurt coming in. No, No, 725 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: we got Night Captain Night. We got Night Captain Night. 726 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,959 Speaker 1: We got Nightcap. Yeah. You look here, man, we got 727 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:03,719 Speaker 1: Night Captain Knight. 728 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 2: What is that eight o'clock, eight o'clock, eight o'clock the 729 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 2: me on Night Captain Night eight eight Live, eight fifteen. 730 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: We are okay, okay, what'd you got? What's your fans 731 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: of Super Bowl memory as a player? Joe, what is 732 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: your face. That's know that that's obviously addressed to you. 733 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: That's obviously addressed to you. This man so question that 734 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: we have to ask. No, they're not asking me because 735 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: you just want me to say for both of us, right, No, yes, No, 736 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: it's not to your job. Who who is this? Nate Harper? 737 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: Don't ask questions that I can't answer. You can be 738 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: watching it. They got you could have watched one that 739 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: you had a favorite memory as a player when I 740 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: was No, when I was playing and I was I 741 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: wasn't in it. I don't care. 742 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 2: What you want to be ruting. No, I don't care. 743 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 2: I don't have a favorite memory of me not playing 744 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 2: in the super Bowl. I don't have a favorite. What's 745 00:33:58,400 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 2: your favorite? 746 00:33:59,200 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: I don't care. 747 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 2: No the super Bowl, Joe favor me watching the super Bowl. Okay, 748 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 2: I might say, you know what, debo I'm going to 749 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 2: say it. 750 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 1: Don't say in the super Bowl? Super Bowl memory as 751 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: a player? Right? Not player in the super Bowl as 752 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: a player? All right, Well, look, you retired, you're no 753 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,959 Speaker 1: longer a player. When you were a player, and what's 754 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: your favorite memory? My favorite that we got? We got? Hey, dog, 755 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 1: that's what I'm talking about. My favorite memory was your 756 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: pick Debo rememory. You got Kurt coming with my good 757 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 1: old dog. What's up boss? What's that you're doing? K 758 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: I was excited. Nothing to do with you. Hey boy. Yeah, 759 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: he don't like you. He don't like me, he said. 760 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: He felt like, you know, he felt you wasn't a 761 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:54,959 Speaker 1: dog person. 762 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 6: Many didn't feel that. 763 00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, he felt that. Take my chair, give me a chair. 764 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 6: Yeah we should get up there, Pey, jump up there. Okay, 765 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 6: up here, come in man that boy there you. 766 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 1: Boy? If we can get the chair to the corner, yeah, 767 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: I love it. 768 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 6: Are we doing? 769 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 4: Guys? Doing great? 770 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:25,839 Speaker 1: Man? 771 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 6: Man? Good you guys, congrets on doing this? Thank you, 772 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 6: dous and joining. 773 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 1: Have no bad Let's let's let's uh, let's tell y'all 774 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: who we got here. We got peaked the dog. 775 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 6: That's that's the most important thing. Yeah, and this owner. 776 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 6: I'm a handler. I'm here as a handler. That's so true. 777 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 6: That's my life. 778 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:51,240 Speaker 1: Now look here, man, Indiana. Wow, I'm about that. Okay, 779 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: this is what I want to know. So I even 780 00:35:54,200 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 1: I am. I'm a Can't State alumni. Yeah you do 781 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: you see any possibility of this situation being able to happen? 782 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: For Kent State or programs like mine. 783 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,800 Speaker 9: You know, that's at the I almost think it's getting 784 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 9: become more of a haves and a have nots. And 785 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 9: I think the Kent States of the world, if you 786 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 9: were there and you had a great freshman or sophomore year, 787 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 9: Florida's coming down and they're going to give you game 788 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 9: changing money, and it's hard at life changing, and it's 789 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 9: hard for me to visualize a group of four team 790 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 9: right now being able to keep their roster together to 791 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 9: make a possible run. I would love it, but I 792 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,720 Speaker 9: just think that the Florida's of the world, the highest states, 793 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 9: the Texas is it's so different than when you guys 794 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 9: were coming through the recruiting and just the way they 795 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 9: high school kids aren't being recruited like they used to be. 796 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,399 Speaker 9: They're going to Kent State and they're going to get 797 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 9: a guy who's an all conference guy and get him 798 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 9: for two years. So it's such a different game. Some 799 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 9: people are still developing. It's kind of like NFL. You 800 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 9: build through the draft and you kind of sprinkle in 801 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 9: some free agents. I think the best teams are doing 802 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,479 Speaker 9: it that way, not just going all in on trying 803 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 9: to bring in portal guys. 804 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 6: But the game is so different right now. 805 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,359 Speaker 1: Do you see do you see any point in time 806 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 1: where they're going to have to put some type of 807 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 1: stipulation rules to how they're doing this with the. 808 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's what we're waiting for, James, is rules. 809 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 9: Like right now, if you get frustrated your team's two 810 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 9: and six, leave Like if you're mad, right you're not playing, 811 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 9: you just leave. It's like you imagine the NFL like 812 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 9: it just bounced. I mean, you played on teams that 813 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,280 Speaker 9: are championship teams. You played on teams that were struggling 814 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 9: by week eight. You kind of know you're probably imagine 815 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 9: just being like I'm out, yeah, and I don't what's 816 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 9: that teaching the kids? You know, Like I have four sons, 817 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 9: Like I can't imagine every time they ran into an obstacle, 818 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 9: it's like we'll just quit, you know, go over here 819 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 9: and try something like you want them to. Part of 820 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,320 Speaker 9: great part of football is trying to overcome that and 821 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 9: learning how to overcome adversity. And we're teaching these guys 822 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,280 Speaker 9: right now just just go around it, go to another place. 823 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 9: And I just feel bad for them long term because 824 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 9: they don't have any roots with where they are, Like 825 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 9: I'm sure you still have connections and Gainsville and sure, 826 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 9: and you were there three years and I don't know. 827 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 6: I feel like when I went to. 828 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 1: College, Damn, he ain't even talk to me about can't. 829 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 1: I think? 830 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 6: Did you do you have type? 831 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 1: I still got some time? 832 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 5: Do you? 833 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 1: Okay? 834 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:26,359 Speaker 6: Good man? 835 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:26,839 Speaker 4: Good? 836 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:28,919 Speaker 1: But I just think he's trying to get enough money 837 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 1: so I could go in there and buy me a program. 838 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 6: Nice. 839 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 3: I like that. 840 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go ahead and get me 841 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 1: an budget like Old State. 842 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,479 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, that's tough, man, that's tough. 843 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,879 Speaker 9: They but but I just I feel bad, like where 844 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 9: are we going to be in ten years for these 845 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,919 Speaker 9: kids that maybe went to the NFL, played for three years, 846 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 9: didn't get that second contract, don't have that generational what income? 847 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 6: What happens to that guy? Like what what did he 848 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 6: learn in his college experience? 849 00:38:55,440 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 2: Because he's probably still jumping, just jumping around competition. So 850 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 2: I'm with you a thousand percent. 851 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,399 Speaker 1: Yeah. How do you feel about Fernando Mendoza though? 852 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 2: Do you think he's going to be able to change 853 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,760 Speaker 2: a franchise like a like a number one pick legitimately coming. 854 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 9: In again, it's your guys world. But I don't know 855 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 9: if he's the guy that you're gonna say. It doesn't 856 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 9: matter who's at receiver, it doesn't matter who's at running back. 857 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:18,879 Speaker 6: We got this guy. 858 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 9: He's we're gonna He's a guy that you're going to 859 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 9: put on that is going to process at an elite level. 860 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 9: He's going to see you disguising up tight, showing man 861 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 9: and then dropping off planet. 862 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 6: He's going to see that. So he's that guy. 863 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 9: But he doesn't have a skill set that's just a 864 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 9: game changer. But I'm a fan of these kind of guys. 865 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,839 Speaker 9: But you gotta have you gotta have pieces around him. 866 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 9: If you got pieces around him, he's your guy if 867 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 9: you want him to just like save the franchise. Here's 868 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 9: I don't think he's the guy for sure. I just 869 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 9: don't like Herbert with the Chargers. They went to him 870 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,800 Speaker 9: and it was like, we'll eventually get good enough. But 871 00:39:55,880 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 9: in the meantime, he's such an elite skill set, we're 872 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 9: gonna be okay, he's not that I got you. He's 873 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,840 Speaker 9: going to manage it and get you out of trouble, 874 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 9: not let him blitz. If he's hanging out and all 875 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 9: of a sudden he comes late. He's gonna eventually, I 876 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 9: think he's gonna see things like that. So he's very 877 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 9: incredibly smart, and. 878 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 6: He does have some skill. I mean, he does have 879 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 6: some ability. As I saw, you know, in his championship run. 880 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 2: I could see, like how Sam Darnold with the Jets, 881 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,760 Speaker 2: How that's the same person that's playing in the Seahawk 882 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 2: right now. But you put a good defense around you, 883 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 2: you put a good team around you. You don't have 884 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 2: to do everything. Yeah, just don't mess it up, put 885 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 2: it in the right spoty. 886 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 9: And I think brock Party out here does that right, 887 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 9: Mister irrelevant, and no one thought he could do anything. 888 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 9: And again I think you got Christian behind him all 889 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 9: the piece as a receiver understands what Kyle is trying 890 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 9: to do to attack a defense. He's an extension of 891 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,399 Speaker 9: Kyle and he's like a computer and that's what he does. 892 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 9: He's going to be a computer. 893 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that kind of guy. And with those like you 894 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,840 Speaker 1: said too, as the coach is putting him in position 895 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 1: that him and Kyle, Kyle got people running open. You 896 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,280 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Over in too many tight windows 897 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: exactly right. Yeah, yeah, college pro transition from one to 898 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 1: the other. How much did that transfer from college for pro? 899 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 1: And what do you think the biggest things that do 900 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:13,400 Speaker 1: or don't. 901 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 9: Well, I think at quarterback, And again, you guys are 902 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,320 Speaker 9: the perfect age to see, Like early in your guys careers, 903 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 9: there were quarterbacks that probably were subvants when it came 904 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 9: to what we're talking about. And I feel like as 905 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 9: high school football, like quarterbacks came up in middle school 906 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 9: and high school, never huddled, never under center, looking over 907 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 9: the sideline, looking at an Elmer Fudd sign. 908 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 6: Or whatever, you know what I mean. They weren't quarterbacks. 909 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 9: And I think now the game has changed so much. 910 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 9: Most of these guys are coming out of these systems 911 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 9: where very rarely are they running an NFL kind of offense. 912 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:49,959 Speaker 6: So you just wonder. 913 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 9: It's you're really kind of rolling the dice, wondering does 914 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:57,280 Speaker 9: he have what it takes? Like does JJ McCarthy, Leavin Michigan, 915 00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,840 Speaker 9: does he have what it takes? You really never know 916 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 9: until you do all your due diligence, roll the dice, 917 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 9: and then you hope that they have the ability. Like 918 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 9: Caleb Williams, It's been so fun that guy never huddled 919 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,840 Speaker 9: in his life, and he was a superstar, best athlete 920 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 9: on the field. That's all he knew. So his instincts 921 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 9: as a quarterback. But he's worked, having been worked through 922 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 9: with Ben Johnson. His primary is not there. He's going 923 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 9: to go try to make James miss, and a lot 924 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 9: of times it worked out for him. Now he's becoming 925 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 9: a guy his first, nope, second, third, and then if 926 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 9: it's not there, he can do his thing. I'm excited 927 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,319 Speaker 9: to see where that relationship, by the way, is going 928 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 9: to go with Caleb and Ben Johnson. 929 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:39,359 Speaker 6: But I don't know. Man. 930 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:43,360 Speaker 9: I'd like to think because of his preparation, he's the 931 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 9: guy you play with. These quarterbacks, they got their tablet 932 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 9: when always with them, always at home watching film. 933 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,800 Speaker 6: He's that guy. So I'd like to think it'll transition, 934 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 6: But who knows. 935 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,399 Speaker 1: You know what. Something that surprised me that I think 936 00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 1: both me and Joe actually found out a little bit 937 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 1: of this year is a lot of these young guys, 938 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:07,879 Speaker 1: uh receivers, some quarterbacks they can't recoverage. No I heard 939 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 1: not being able to recoverage or being taught that in 940 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,560 Speaker 1: the process. It's like, where where does that? Where's that 941 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:14,600 Speaker 1: being dropped off. 942 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,759 Speaker 9: At like I think the emphasis again, you lived it 943 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,760 Speaker 9: the five star, four star world. It's seven on seven, 944 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 9: you know, it's it's almost like AAU basketball. So instead 945 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 9: of getting in the mud and like learning the fundamentals 946 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 9: of the game, I think there's so much flash and 947 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 9: so much hype. 948 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,840 Speaker 6: On social media about this corner. 949 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,400 Speaker 9: He's out here and he's doing this, and he's not 950 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 9: doing necessarily what he's going to do in a game. 951 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 6: He's just doing cla. 952 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 9: That's hold, but it's encouraged in the grassroots, high school stuff. 953 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 9: So they come to college and these college guys, they're 954 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:50,319 Speaker 9: just trying to keep them on the roster. 955 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 6: You get a five star corner, you're just trying to. 956 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 9: Keep him happy and want to stay because no one's 957 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 9: no one's getting tough and doing like Nick Saban like coaching, 958 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 9: like this is how you play. 959 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:02,719 Speaker 6: They're worried about him leaving. 960 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 1: So celebrities already exactly that's exactly right, And they're up 961 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 1: there catering to him and they ain't putting not one 962 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,400 Speaker 1: snap on the fields. 963 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 6: It makes that's the fear you have. 964 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 9: And then you're thinking in the NFL, okay, say yep, 965 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,480 Speaker 9: Joe who hasn't been taught the fundamentals. 966 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 6: But man, he can run, change the direction. He has 967 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 6: all the I can get him to learn. 968 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 9: That's what I think they're rolling the dice on and 969 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 9: sometimes it works, and other times guys just never get it, 970 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 9: you know, they never get it. How much of the 971 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 9: game for you, guys as defensive players was not just 972 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 9: how big and strong you were, how fast instinctive you were, 973 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 9: but just doing your job, understanding the why. 974 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,320 Speaker 6: And how what you did affected what he did. Like 975 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 6: to me, that's like next levels, that's next level, the 976 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 6: whole thing. But but they're not doing any No. 977 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 1: No, no, I don't even think. I don't I don't 978 00:44:54,000 --> 00:45:00,160 Speaker 1: think a majority of younger coaches are teaching that, to 979 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,920 Speaker 1: be honest with you, Like I think guys are getting 980 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:04,719 Speaker 1: in there and they're looking at what it is they 981 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,080 Speaker 1: want to do instead of getting the guys a whole understanding. 982 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 1: Like when I got in I didn't know what the 983 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 1: hell I was doing, so I couldn't even do what 984 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 1: I needed to do. Once I understood, I sat down 985 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 1: with my coach, My coach, coach Butler sat down with me, 986 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 1: and like day in day out, I'm after I'm here 987 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,400 Speaker 1: trying to figure out everything. But once I learned what 988 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,279 Speaker 1: it was that I could do, I couldn't learn what 989 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,440 Speaker 1: I could do better. But I can learn what the 990 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,759 Speaker 1: guy next to me was doing. With the guy on 991 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:29,440 Speaker 1: that side of me. 992 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,239 Speaker 6: But did he teach you that or did you have 993 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:31,799 Speaker 6: that you. 994 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,279 Speaker 1: Needed that, like to make me better, to make the 995 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 1: defense better. If I learned what the guy is doing 996 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 1: in front of me, behind me, on the side of me, 997 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 1: if I have no work there, instead of me just 998 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 1: sitting here on nothing, I can school stay in and 999 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,600 Speaker 1: wait for that he did coming at seventeen. That's gonna 1000 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,319 Speaker 1: be coming cross sitting down here in the plural flat 1001 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,880 Speaker 1: five yards and now I'm making my safety. 1002 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:56,360 Speaker 6: But it is the secret sauce. 1003 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,360 Speaker 1: It makes you get something that like like Dick Lubou 1004 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 1: like he he taught us that coach Buckler, like they 1005 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,640 Speaker 1: taught us that, like, hey, if you don't have anything here, 1006 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,840 Speaker 1: help your buddy. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I 1007 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:08,520 Speaker 1: was learning it. 1008 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 2: I would say this too, the same thing because when 1009 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,759 Speaker 2: you first get in, you're worried about it takes you 1010 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,439 Speaker 2: long enough to learn just your job. 1011 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,640 Speaker 1: So when you cut in in my first rookie year. 1012 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,080 Speaker 1: After the second year, you start learning what everybody's around 1013 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 1: you doing when you call the play as a corner 1014 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 1: at first time out, all right, we got cover too. 1015 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,879 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about what's my job? Now? 1016 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 2: Second year they call cover too, I already know that. 1017 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,239 Speaker 2: I'm just worried about when they motion, what's our check? 1018 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 1: What are the splits? 1019 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,480 Speaker 2: What routes are they running? So now I already know 1020 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,960 Speaker 2: our defense. You start getting more and more and more comfortable. 1021 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,359 Speaker 9: So I would say to me that what you guys 1022 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,360 Speaker 9: are describing to me is what gets lost by the 1023 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:46,360 Speaker 9: average fan, which to me is how much in football 1024 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 9: savvy intelligence, communication, especially great defense like Seattle. Both these 1025 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:55,040 Speaker 9: teams the communication, but these things aren't talked about. We're 1026 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,399 Speaker 9: going back to your original point about college and high 1027 00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 9: school players and coming up. 1028 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 6: I think we just see raw. 1029 00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:05,920 Speaker 9: Ability, we see potential, and we think is that gonna transition? 1030 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,560 Speaker 9: And what you're describing is you better go to the 1031 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,239 Speaker 9: right franchise with the right coach, otherwise you're just gonna 1032 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,799 Speaker 9: have a really talented player that's just not not understanding 1033 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:20,400 Speaker 9: the nuances of playing as one of eleven on a defense. 1034 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,239 Speaker 1: Well, that's another thing when you have a coach what 1035 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,160 Speaker 1: we like to call bay in. When I have a 1036 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,279 Speaker 1: coach and my coach is Joe Hayden, and I know 1037 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,120 Speaker 1: how Joe Hayden played the game. I saw how he 1038 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,320 Speaker 1: played the game. I'm going to buy in to him immediately, 1039 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 1: and now I'm gonna listen to everything he has to 1040 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,000 Speaker 1: say because I know I've seen greatness in him. And 1041 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,520 Speaker 1: now he's coaching and telling me what to do. So 1042 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 1: it's an automatic buy into that. And now players are 1043 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 1: wide open to feed and take take in in the information. 1044 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 1: Are you gonna coaches? I think it's about to start 1045 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:49,440 Speaker 1: getting into it for you. 1046 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:49,799 Speaker 9: Man. 1047 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 1: I just wanted to take a little bit of time first. 1048 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,960 Speaker 6: He's giving a face. Are you gonna leave? You're gonna leave? 1049 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 1: Man? Here we're going together. We're going together. Oh yeah, 1050 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:00,080 Speaker 1: when I get. 1051 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:02,000 Speaker 6: You're gonna coach? 1052 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, look here, man, before we get you out 1053 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,520 Speaker 1: of here? Man, what brings you here? What's going going on? 1054 00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 3: So? 1055 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,719 Speaker 9: I have four dogs. I'm a big dog guy, and 1056 00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 9: I lost one of my dogs last year. It's just 1057 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 9: age of ten. I've always wondered, you know, it is 1058 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 9: it stuff I'm feeding my dogs? Is its stuff that 1059 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 9: I'm putting around in my house and they're eating grass, 1060 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,759 Speaker 9: and so Spruce is a pet friendly wheat killer. So 1061 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,719 Speaker 9: if you're ever doing house guys are doing work around 1062 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 9: your house, and you're worried about your dogs out there 1063 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,840 Speaker 9: sometimes getting into stuff, you wonder what those chemicals do 1064 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 9: to a dog, potentially in their long term health. So 1065 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,799 Speaker 9: when Spruce had contacted me, I mean, this guy right here, 1066 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:38,799 Speaker 9: you can look at him. 1067 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:40,879 Speaker 1: He's my life's having. 1068 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,760 Speaker 9: He's just my dogs are like I have four sons, 1069 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,600 Speaker 9: but they're really like my kids and I care about them. 1070 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,040 Speaker 9: And so Spruce the fact they have ten ingredients in 1071 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,920 Speaker 9: their product, they're from Fantastic. So yeah, if you're interested 1072 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,080 Speaker 9: in that and and you do yard work, you have 1073 00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,440 Speaker 9: people doing your yard work, and you're like a pet 1074 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,839 Speaker 9: friendly Spruces is definitely a home run. 1075 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,560 Speaker 1: Can they Can they buy this in stores or is it? 1076 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:03,879 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1077 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,320 Speaker 9: Yeah yeah online you can buy it in stores like 1078 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,320 Speaker 9: home Depotation nationwide. 1079 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,320 Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, yeah, a good product. 1080 00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,000 Speaker 1: Check those dogs with Spruce. 1081 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:17,239 Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, Man, appreciate you coming on seeing you, man, 1082 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:21,399 Speaker 9: congrats bank you guys, and I appreciate the show. 1083 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 1: Thank you boss. All right, now I'll get a good 1084 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 1: old Kurt Herd Street, come on and Peter, Pete, come here, Pete, 1085 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 1: come here, come here. You don't like it? You do 1086 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:34,520 Speaker 1: like me? 1087 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:35,759 Speaker 3: All? 1088 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 1: Thanks, thank you? Right now, have a going, boss, good 1089 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:52,880 Speaker 1: old Kurt. Yes, Sir Spruce right, Spruce, Spruce, Spruce. I 1090 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,920 Speaker 1: ain't that a man. That's a legend right there, Bo, 1091 00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 1: that's a big dog man. That's a lab. He got 1092 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,279 Speaker 1: a he got a media for a lab like I'm 1093 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:07,759 Speaker 1: trying to tell you many definitely, definitely. I love. What's up, baby, 1094 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:14,480 Speaker 1: I'm good. Hey you good, see you, we're cooking. Look 1095 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:18,359 Speaker 1: at that. Look here, man, we got another question. Man, 1096 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:22,799 Speaker 1: let's get up over here. We got If you could 1097 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:27,040 Speaker 1: be gifted a ticket to any event in the world, 1098 00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,520 Speaker 1: which would it be, Joe, If you could be gifted 1099 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,319 Speaker 1: a ticket to any event in the world, which would 1100 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,600 Speaker 1: it be? You know what I'm going to. I'm going game. 1101 00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:40,960 Speaker 2: I'm going any game seven basketball championship floor courtside. That's 1102 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:46,360 Speaker 2: why I'm going court side. Basketball games are the funnest. 1103 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 1: Thing that I could go to. Like, I love football 1104 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,279 Speaker 1: in the suite and all that, but you too far 1105 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 1: at basketball. 1106 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:56,000 Speaker 2: At basketball on the floor with Braun right there, sitting 1107 00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:57,600 Speaker 2: right next to me, Like you're sitting right next to 1108 00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,160 Speaker 2: me right now, and I like this, Yeah, you like, 1109 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:01,920 Speaker 2: I don't know, y' y'all whatever, So sit next to 1110 00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,720 Speaker 2: Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant, whoever one is your favorite 1111 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:05,640 Speaker 2: player of all time. 1112 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 1: Jordan on the floor. If you mike to Jordan, you 1113 00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,360 Speaker 1: might want to go that one, might might take the 1114 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:13,279 Speaker 1: little tight seat. 1115 00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:17,200 Speaker 2: I'm game seven, Game seven. You saw jazz version with 1116 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,399 Speaker 2: Jordan's put me in the box, Put you in the box, 1117 00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,319 Speaker 2: Put me in the box. I'm gonna have a TV 1118 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,200 Speaker 2: in the box. I'm gonna have a better view. I'm 1119 00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,320 Speaker 2: gonna get all the replays. I'm gonna get all the 1120 00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:33,439 Speaker 2: excitement of the live with none of the removal of space. Okay, 1121 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,239 Speaker 2: so you wanna be you want to be when we're 1122 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:35,719 Speaker 2: in the box. 1123 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,120 Speaker 1: Sweeup bowing the sweet sweet sup bowling and sweet. I 1124 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:43,000 Speaker 1: can respect that super Bowl, the sweet game plenty eat, 1125 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,960 Speaker 1: plenty to eat super Bowl. See, I ain't gotta get 1126 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,080 Speaker 1: up to go nowhere. All I do is turn around, 1127 00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,959 Speaker 1: you know, grab me some crab cakes, you know, grab 1128 00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,320 Speaker 1: me some some steak. You know. Whatever it is that 1129 00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:56,360 Speaker 1: that I need, it's. 1130 00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,040 Speaker 2: Already in the box ready to go, and you're on 1131 00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,680 Speaker 2: the Florida to They bring you whatever you want, They 1132 00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:02,200 Speaker 2: bring you that. 1133 00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,239 Speaker 1: I have crab cakes on the floor. I had crab 1134 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,600 Speaker 1: cakes on the floor right next to bron right next 1135 00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,800 Speaker 1: to MJ. Where are your table at that you're eating it? 1136 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:11,440 Speaker 1: Gotta be on my lop though, you gotta hold you 1137 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,839 Speaker 1: gotta playing with me, man. I'm trying to throw down, 1138 00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,320 Speaker 1: trying to throw down. Yeah, I'm not sitting there snacking. 1139 00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:20,680 Speaker 1: Do I look like I snack? I look well, I 1140 00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,680 Speaker 1: look like I know you don't like you snack? A 1141 00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:27,640 Speaker 1: super Bowl? Pittsburgh still is Anny, Pittsburgh still a super Bowl. 1142 00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,520 Speaker 1: I got to be in the box, though, I'm going. 1143 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:33,880 Speaker 1: I gotta be on the floor. 1144 00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:40,799 Speaker 2: NBA Finals got to I'm a basketball guy, listen, I'm 1145 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:42,680 Speaker 2: a big bas the only. 1146 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:47,600 Speaker 1: Way, the only way. I'm not in the box. I'm 1147 00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,880 Speaker 1: on the sideline as the head coach getting thirty million. 1148 00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,719 Speaker 1: You're my dB coach? We down there? Yeah, I like that. 1149 00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:01,759 Speaker 1: I like that view. I like that. So your lord, Yes, yes, 1150 00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,080 Speaker 1: look here what we got next? You got something that's 1151 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:04,400 Speaker 1: up here? 1152 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:05,520 Speaker 7: No, there we go? 1153 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:16,439 Speaker 2: Oh who wins the matchup? Jsn or Christ regards. Boy, 1154 00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,719 Speaker 2: what do you call a wind though? That's what I'm saying. 1155 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:21,680 Speaker 1: What is a win is. 1156 00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,399 Speaker 2: Under a certain amount of yards. You know what I'm saying. 1157 00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:26,800 Speaker 2: He is keeping them out of the end zone. 1158 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,759 Speaker 1: What do you call a win if he goes? If 1159 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:34,279 Speaker 1: you do, you call win. It's five. I'm a dB. 1160 00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:38,560 Speaker 2: I'm saying a win for me is under against him, 1161 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,839 Speaker 2: against him, against him, keeping him under fifty yards, under 1162 00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,240 Speaker 2: fifty yards, no touchdowns, fifty yards. 1163 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:46,359 Speaker 1: Fifteen times. 1164 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,480 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to tell you as me as a dB, 1165 00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,799 Speaker 2: if I keep you under fifty and out the end zone, 1166 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,720 Speaker 2: that's when I want. Keep him out of the end zone. Period, 1167 00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,680 Speaker 2: you won. But you don't want twelve for one fifty 1168 00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:57,560 Speaker 2: and no touchdown. 1169 00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:58,239 Speaker 1: You got hit. 1170 00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:00,719 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. But the depending on is 1171 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,160 Speaker 2: its zones. I don't like a lot of those dig routes. 1172 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,520 Speaker 2: If that's just in the zone, the linebackers coming up, 1173 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:06,760 Speaker 2: biting up, that's. 1174 00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,560 Speaker 1: Saying man on the rock. 1175 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,120 Speaker 2: He's going man and man and he on him under 1176 00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,919 Speaker 2: keeping him under fifty yards, no TuS and that's win. 1177 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,800 Speaker 1: If he knows if he's more to him, it is 1178 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,000 Speaker 1: man defense. He turned him eight times uh huh, perfect balls, 1179 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,919 Speaker 1: perfect balls. If you strapped him up. If he's four 1180 00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:29,920 Speaker 1: four catches for forty two yards, zero tuz for forty two, 1181 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,400 Speaker 1: that's that's strapped. That's work. I liked it. You know 1182 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,320 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Anything under that fifty and no tuddies. 1183 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,640 Speaker 1: And you got a couple of you got five catches 1184 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,400 Speaker 1: for under for fifty yards, I'm in no tudies. So 1185 00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,239 Speaker 1: with that, listen. So we just got your standards. That 1186 00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:47,000 Speaker 1: being your standards, who wins the matchup. 1187 00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,239 Speaker 2: Jackson Smith and Jigbah Yeah, because I mean, you know 1188 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:53,479 Speaker 2: he's gonna get more than fifty. 1189 00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,400 Speaker 1: You mean, if you're gonna lock him up, he might 1190 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,520 Speaker 1: get you. You're gonna get his zone. He's gonna get. Man. 1191 00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:01,600 Speaker 1: They thought it ben, they throw them in the ball 1192 00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:03,120 Speaker 1: too less. You think you go hold that man, you 1193 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:04,200 Speaker 1: go straight. You know what I'm saying. 1194 00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:05,960 Speaker 2: If he throw, if he throws to him twelve and 1195 00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,520 Speaker 2: he catches half of it, you just got he got six. 1196 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,839 Speaker 2: Depending that he six f If he gets ten yards 1197 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:13,400 Speaker 2: of catch, don't let him go up top on you. 1198 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:15,680 Speaker 2: Like one of these catches could be for forty five 1199 00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,759 Speaker 2: yards and then you're looking nuts. Then you're six for 1200 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:23,239 Speaker 2: one twenty on your head and the tuddy bad day twelve. 1201 00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,760 Speaker 1: Today I could I could take I could take one twenty, 1202 00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,880 Speaker 1: you can take one twelve catches and no, and what 1203 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:29,760 Speaker 1: about the tochdown. 1204 00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:31,960 Speaker 2: No, as long as you say keep him out the box, 1205 00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,440 Speaker 2: and you want keep him at the end zone and 1206 00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:35,320 Speaker 2: you want to yeah. 1207 00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:36,640 Speaker 1: But I'm with you. I'm gonna have to go. I'm 1208 00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,040 Speaker 1: gonna have to go. I gotta go with Jesson. 1209 00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,279 Speaker 2: I gotta go with Jesson. And that's no disrespect. No, 1210 00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,759 Speaker 2: it's just that how many opportunities is he gonna get? 1211 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:43,920 Speaker 1: Get? 1212 00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,480 Speaker 2: They gonna keep, they gonna tow m that rock and 1213 00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,600 Speaker 2: Walker gonna be toting that joint too, same thing. 1214 00:55:49,840 --> 00:56:01,439 Speaker 1: What we got, flip it. Who wins MVP? I'm gonna 1215 00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,840 Speaker 1: go ahead. Let you well, if it's going what I think, Seattle, 1216 00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,799 Speaker 1: If they Seattle wins the championship, Sam Donald's gonna win 1217 00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:12,320 Speaker 1: the MVP, I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't 1218 00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:17,640 Speaker 1: go an win gonna be if Kenneth Walker, it is 1219 00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:22,040 Speaker 1: gonna Kenneth Walker. Who's gonna win m v P. Of 1220 00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,600 Speaker 1: course you know I'm going to England because you know, 1221 00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:30,439 Speaker 1: so you're gonna go Drake May. I'm not gonna vote 1222 00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:40,920 Speaker 1: Drake May Henderson. Whoever get this game changing winning interception 1223 00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,200 Speaker 1: on your boy on Sam Donald? 1224 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:47,279 Speaker 2: Whoever picked out so you it could be Gonzales. If 1225 00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,960 Speaker 2: Gonzales take one back to the crib, trying to get 1226 00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,160 Speaker 2: it out of there, trying to squeeze it in there tight. 1227 00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,440 Speaker 2: He got pressure coming up on him. He swinging that 1228 00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,279 Speaker 2: thing out. Boy, come down on that thing. It's just 1229 00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,120 Speaker 2: a little out of picked six to the house. You 1230 00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:04,000 Speaker 2: like a defensive MVP. I love defensive MVP. Some people 1231 00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:05,520 Speaker 2: say I should have won. What are you talking about? 1232 00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,040 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I think I know why 1233 00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,520 Speaker 1: ain't winning that. But you know what I say, Yeah, Peyton, 1234 00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:14,759 Speaker 1: that's why me and me and yeah yeah yeah, insight store, 1235 00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,040 Speaker 1: Me and Madden got some issues. I ain't gonna lie, 1236 00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,800 Speaker 1: but Madden. Listen, John, I talk to you later about it. 1237 00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:28,560 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Dray hate Gay. That's crazy, worst bro. Sat 1238 00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:30,640 Speaker 1: I sat down there at the box with him after 1239 00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:34,400 Speaker 1: the Gang, after the super Bowl, after the game, right there, 1240 00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:41,400 Speaker 1: sat down everybody on that crew. Tell me, look, I said, man, 1241 00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,800 Speaker 1: I talked to you later. Any man, what's the next question. 1242 00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:53,200 Speaker 1: Let's see who when Oh, let me back, Yeah, I 1243 00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:58,000 Speaker 1: gotta back up for this one. Well, here's my question. 1244 00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:02,400 Speaker 1: Do you think the NFL has a quarterback development problem 1245 00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:08,760 Speaker 1: within this league? Because unless your Mahomes Jackson, Allen Burrows, 1246 00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:13,480 Speaker 1: or even that, these guys would rather this scard you 1247 00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:18,960 Speaker 1: like a used sock instead of building around the quarterback position. 1248 00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:21,440 Speaker 1: Do you think the NFL has a. 1249 00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:27,840 Speaker 2: All right, yes, I didn't. I think it's not it's 1250 00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:32,760 Speaker 2: the development problem, and it's a the coaches. Some coaches 1251 00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,960 Speaker 2: aren't that good. Some offensive coaches aren't that good, and 1252 00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,400 Speaker 2: they try to put the blame on the quarterback, like, 1253 00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,400 Speaker 2: oh no, he's not doing nothing, he's not good enough. 1254 00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:44,160 Speaker 2: Prime example, when we say Sam Donald, it's not like 1255 00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,640 Speaker 2: it's a different person that's playing. The Jets didn't have 1256 00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,480 Speaker 2: an offense set up, they didn't give him structure, defense 1257 00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:51,720 Speaker 2: wasn't good. You just have a full blown bad team. 1258 00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:55,600 Speaker 2: So Sam Donald looks bad. You go with the Bikings. 1259 00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:57,160 Speaker 2: He looked a little better, you know what I'm saying, 1260 00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,840 Speaker 2: team was better around him, developed, you know what I'm saying, 1261 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,880 Speaker 2: better plays. Then you go now to Seattle. You're not 1262 00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,440 Speaker 2: asked to do as much. He's the same person. He's 1263 00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,520 Speaker 2: just hitting better passes, getting the ball, run game amazing. 1264 00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:12,680 Speaker 2: Jackson Smith and Jig, but their defense unbelievable. Don't lose 1265 00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:13,439 Speaker 2: it for Sam. 1266 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:13,680 Speaker 1: So. 1267 00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:17,800 Speaker 2: I think coaches are Coaches take the shortcut sometimes, I 1268 00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,480 Speaker 2: mean like, oh no, you gotta get it at