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Speaker 1: This is one Bill's Live presented by Calledlida.

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Speaker 2: Health, a Black Friday edition of One Bill's Live night

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Speaker 2: glab alongside of Steve Tasker. We hope you guys are

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Speaker 2: having a lovely holiday weekend. Hopefully your Turkey Day was

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Speaker 2: just amazing. Some food and football, nothing better than that.

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Speaker 2: And we hope you're out shopping today with friends and

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Speaker 2: family members. If you have the time and want to

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Speaker 2: come on down to the Bill's store, they're offering some

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Speaker 2: sales today. I did quite a bit of holiday shopping

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Speaker 2: already at the Team store.

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Speaker 1: Tasker, me too, Me too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I go in there. I go in there, I don't know, regularly,

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Speaker 1: maybe not regularly, maybe regularlyas a little too much, But

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Speaker 1: I go in there fairly off. And I gotta say,

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Speaker 1: I'm that's the one store I go into and I

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Speaker 1: always walk out with something almost always.

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Speaker 2: They've got some really cool sweatshirts in there.

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Speaker 1: This year.

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Speaker 2: They have up to their hoodie game this year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the hoodies are so I have like ninety hoodies,

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Speaker 1: and but.

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Speaker 2: It's like, I'm not I can't buy anything for myself

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Speaker 2: because we have too many things.

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Speaker 1: We have tos. I've got over one hundred items hanging

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Speaker 1: in my closet, all with the logo on it, either

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Speaker 1: one Bill's Live logo or the Bill's logo whatever. And

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Speaker 1: because we wear it every day, right, We're in here

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Speaker 1: every day, so I'm you know, I can always justify it.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I'll just wear it on the air. I

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Speaker 1: do hoodies everything. I've got literally over one hundred items.

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Speaker 2: Do you always have a giveaway pile going them when

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Speaker 2: you bring more stuff in?

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Speaker 1: Well, I had to. My two older brothers came to visit,

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Speaker 1: and they're my size, Like a bunch. I throw out

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Speaker 1: like a stack of twenty things and thinking Christmas, Camer'll

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Speaker 1: probably take two or three of them. They take home

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Speaker 1: stuff in their suit case and take it home.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, that's a good, good deal, good gig.

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Speaker 1: Are you going Black Friday? Person?

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Speaker 2: When I was younger, I feel like I was. I

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Speaker 2: grew up in the suburbs of Chicago, so when we

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Speaker 2: had the weekend off, the long weekend, we would go

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Speaker 2: down to Chicago and do some shopping, and I think

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Speaker 2: more than anything, we would go down to Chicago to

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Speaker 2: look at the holiday windows outside of Marshall Fields which

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Speaker 2: is now Macy's and they would decorate the windows for

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Speaker 2: the holidays and it would be a new holiday story

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Speaker 2: every single year. So that's something I always look forward

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Speaker 2: to as a kid. And then it turned into Okay,

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Speaker 2: well let's shop a little bit. But yeah, now that

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Speaker 2: I'm in Buffalo, I'll do some shopping, but it's more

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Speaker 2: online and we're busy working. Once you're in the NFL

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Speaker 2: at this point in the year, my brain is so

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Speaker 2: football oriented because we're so close to December football. I

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Speaker 2: can't think about anything else with you.

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of in that game. I've lived long enough

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Speaker 1: now that I've seen the world really change dramatically in

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Speaker 1: a lot of ways. You know, I grew up there's

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Speaker 1: no cell phones or anything like that. Nobody had any nothing. Right,

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Speaker 1: you just kind of left the house, right, it seems right,

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Speaker 1: it seems crazy. I'll see you when I see you now.

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Speaker 1: And also, I lived through, obviously the eighties where everybody

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Speaker 1: are still out there, but.

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Speaker 2: Man, the cool mall day everybody.

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Speaker 1: It was the best weekend. Just go on there and

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Speaker 1: just walk around. It's great. And now there's a box

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Speaker 2: Kind of yeah, like that the eighties and nineties lay

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Speaker 2: more for not I got to say, there's more for

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Speaker 2: nostalgia than yeah nostalgia.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and I am still so old fashioned too.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I gotta see it, touch it, hold it,

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Speaker 1: I buy it, whatever it is for yourself or your shues, clothes,

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Speaker 2: How is your Thanksgiving? What'd you do?

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Speaker 1: Well? We're actually going to have Thanksgiving tomorrow, the finger

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Speaker 1: quotes official Thanksgiving because we've got you know, all my

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Speaker 1: the day, We're going to converge on that on our

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Speaker 1: that kind of thing, right, you can? You can you

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Speaker 1: do adult things. Then I found my sons were down

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Speaker 1: in the basement with my grandkids all playing knee hockey.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, you we just had a quiet Thanksgiving, just

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Speaker 2: me and my husband. His family's in Florida. My family's

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Speaker 1: It works on we're working every other day. So did

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Speaker 1: did your other family members get together? And then they

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Speaker 2: Family got together, and then yeah, my husband's family got together.

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Speaker 2: My husband went home earlier in the week to have

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Speaker 2: an early Thanksgiving and came back for a Thursday, so

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Speaker 2: I didn't do turkey, cooked some short ribs and h

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Speaker 2: and made some nice sides.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel that changing the turkey tradition? Certainly, everybody cooks,

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Speaker 1: everybody cooks. But now I'm I'm getting a lot of

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Speaker 2: It's turkey and something else. We're gonna turkey and something

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Speaker 2: else to but yeah, but another protein. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: you getting more open to doing it.

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Speaker 1: I'm sensing a fan Yeah, I'm sensing a shift. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't hate on turkey. It's just a lot to

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean I've always liked this stuff that goes

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Speaker 2: Itself, potatoes and gravy and stuffing the.

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Speaker 1: Whole thing, gravy everything. Yeah, but I don't know, I'm

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Speaker 1: kind of sensing a shift in our society away from

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Speaker 1: just a plain old turkey. I guess everybody does it

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Speaker 1: Italian family takes the whole thing short ribs, like he said.

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Speaker 2: Yep, it was great.

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Speaker 1: I'm okay with it.

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Speaker 1: That's not that's not a tradition. I'm married too.

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Speaker 2: I had Connor McGovern on Inside the Charge this week,

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Speaker 2: my podcast, and he is the biggest Thanksgiving fan I've

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Speaker 2: ever met in my life. He said he loves Thanksgiving

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Speaker 2: so much that he'd put it up there tied with Christmas,

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Speaker 2: and loves Thanksgiving food so much that he cooks himself

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Speaker 2: a full Thanksgiving spread once a month, insanity. And he

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Speaker 2: loves doing the whole turkey the size. I said, oh

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Speaker 2: my gosh, it must take you to so much time.

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Speaker 2: He said, no, it doesn't. It saves me a few hours.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but those foodies, if you're a foodie, you don't

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Speaker 2: It's part of love, the labor of love. And then

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Speaker 2: he said his wife and his daughter they don't like,

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Speaker 2: they don't like to eat that once a month. So

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Speaker 2: he said, it's just me and my dog's eating it.

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Speaker 2: So freaking funny. So if you guys want to listen

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Speaker 2: to the episode, it's on to the Buffalo Bills dot com.

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Speaker 1: It's not so funny, it's him. Uh cool.

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Speaker 2: Well, we heard from Sean McDermott earlier today as he

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Speaker 2: gave us an injury report, so let's get in our bills.

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Speaker 2: Practice update presented by lee Comlake Erie College of Osteopathic

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Speaker 2: Medicine and McDermott appeared on WGR five point fifty and

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Speaker 2: ruled out four players for Sunday. Linebacker Treel Bernard is

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Speaker 2: play with a shoulder, and wide receiver Curtis Samuel Is

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Speaker 2: out with an elbow and knee injury. So two big

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Speaker 2: McDermott said they're going through different options at TA veterans

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Speaker 2: from Thursday. So quarterback Aaron Rodgers was a full participant

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Speaker 2: for Thursday's practice. We know he's dealing with that left

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Speaker 2: miss on The Steelers and offensive tackle Roderick Jones, with

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Speaker 2: those are two important players on the Pittsburgh Steelers that

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Speaker 2: could miss Sunday's game against the Bills. Steve, the fact

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Speaker 1: Good defensive line.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, TJ. Watt their top five in sacks, top three

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Speaker 2: to attack the offensive line as much as they can?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Steelers have got to be looking their chops.

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Speaker 1: The only the only benefit you get from this is

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Speaker 1: they don't They don't know what if Tyland save Tyland

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Speaker 1: Grabil lines up at right tackle or left whatever. They

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Speaker 1: don't have they don't have any film on him, what

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Speaker 1: They'll have no idea what they're looking at. But that

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Speaker 2: This is how the guards should learn. This is how

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Speaker 2: The coaching that's been done since OTA's the work ethic,

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Speaker 2: and Josh Allen is nominated for the Art Rooney Sportsmanship

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Speaker 2: Another congratulations that's deserved to our quarterback, Christian Benford. He's

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Speaker 2: Thanks Thanksgiving, the day that they own. Green Bays won

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Speaker 1: And of course in Bill's country, nobody was, you know,

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Speaker 1: losing the sleepover the Chiefs taking a loss.

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Speaker 2: Not at all, not at this point.

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Speaker 1: Six and six. Think about this.

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Speaker 2: Man, six crazy.

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Speaker 1: Think about when the Bills two years ago through now

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Speaker 1: three years ago, the Bills were six and six and

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Speaker 1: they changed offensive coordinators and got and closed it out

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Speaker 1: with five straight to get into the playoffs. Sheesh, they

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Speaker 1: were eleven and six. Don't say it's impossible because the

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Speaker 1: Bills did it.

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Speaker 2: Don't say it's over here.

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Speaker 1: That's what it is.

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Speaker 2: He looks like right now. Patriots at one, Broncos at two.

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Speaker 2: Then you got the Colts, the Steelers, the Charters at five,

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Speaker 2: Jags at six, Bills at seven, Texans at eight, and

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Speaker 2: Chiefs at nine. The final six weeks of the season here,

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be some interesting football that's being played.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like just the lot about that. When I

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Speaker 1: saw how the Chief's gonna be six and six on No,

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Speaker 1: the Bills were six and six and they've.

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Speaker 2: Done that and they'd still found away in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: They did it.

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Speaker 2: The ninth game featured the Joe Burrow led Bengals taking

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Speaker 2: down the Ravens thirty two to fourteen. It was Burrow's

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Speaker 2: first game back since his turf toe injury in Week two.

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Speaker 2: Burrow is twenty four of forty six for two hundred

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Speaker 2: and sixty one yards through for two touchdowns. Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 2: lost two fumbles in the game and through an interception.

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Speaker 2: The Ravens had four total fumbles five total turnovers.

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Speaker 1: Woof not geo good like that.

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Speaker 2: The Bengals took the lead in the second quarter and

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Speaker 2: never looked back. The Bengals what they got eight losses

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Speaker 2: on the year, Yeah, but here they I don't think

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Speaker 2: they have a chance.

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Speaker 1: They don't. They can spoilt people, and they're coming in

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Speaker 1: here next. The Bills are their next opponent.

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Speaker 2: They can spoil things for other people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they and they're good enough to do it. I

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Speaker 1: went to bed thinking that. Watched the first half of

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Speaker 1: that Bengals game, first quarter and a half, and I thought,

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Speaker 1: Bengals don't have a shot in this. They do not

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Speaker 1: have a shot in this. Ball over five and then

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Speaker 1: yeah it come come to find out. I woke, I'm

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Speaker 1: are you kidding me? They blew him out. It was

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Speaker 1: a laughers. So I was really shocked at how that

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Speaker 1: game turned out. Beat him by twenty eight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this this turnover here that happened down inside the

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Speaker 1: five first in goal on the two early in the game.

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Speaker 1: Baltimore was leading at that time, and I thought, well,

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Speaker 1: that's you know, that's the only thing the Bengals have

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Speaker 1: got going for him. They can't really do anything. But

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Speaker 1: then you know, Burrow caught fire and there they go.

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Speaker 1: It was, yeah, we've seen that all too often with

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Speaker 1: Lamar and Derrick Henry and that Isaiah likely was going

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Speaker 1: in for a touchdown and fumbled it through the end zone.

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Speaker 1: He was gonna try and reach it out to get

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Speaker 1: it across the line, and as he reached it out,

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Speaker 1: he puts the ball at risk and they not get loose.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 1: It's just crazy. Just it couldn't have been worse for

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Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens and.

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Speaker 2: That's yikes, big yikes.

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Speaker 1: And it was obvious it was a fumble.

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Speaker 2: Ravens are now six and six on the season, just

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Speaker 2: like the Chiefs are. We also got a Black Friday

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Speaker 2: game on deck slated for three o'clock on Amazon Prime.

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Speaker 2: The Bears are in Philly to face the Eagles at

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Speaker 2: three o'clock. The Bears linebacking corps is decimated with injuries,

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Speaker 2: but good news for the secondary. They activated Jalen Johnson

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Speaker 2: and Kyler Gordon from ir Both are expected to play.

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Speaker 2: Eagles wide receiver Dvante Smith, who is dealing with a

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Speaker 2: shoulder and chest injury as well as an illness, looks

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Speaker 2: to be good to go today. Both teams lead their divisions.

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Speaker 2: We also have some news for the Sunday slate of games.

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Speaker 2: We know that quarterback Tampa Bay quarterback Baker Mayfield was

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Speaker 2: dealing with that sprained left shoulder well. According to Bucks

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Speaker 2: head coach Todd Bowles, Baker Mayfield is looking like he's

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Speaker 2: good to go in today's practice, so that that's trending

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Speaker 2: to play against the Cardinals on Sunday. So it looks

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Speaker 2: like Baker's gonna gut it out and try to play

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Speaker 2: on Sunday, which is good for him because that injury

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Speaker 2: did not look too great. Other updates around the league

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Speaker 2: as we get closer to Sunday, Commander's head coach Dan

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Speaker 2: Quinn ruled out quarterback Jayden Daniels for Sunday's game against Detroit,

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Speaker 2: but he expects wide receiver Terry McLaurin to play. Giants

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Speaker 2: head coach Mike Kafka confirm that Jackson Dart will start

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Speaker 2: on Monday against the Patriots. So there are your news

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Speaker 2: and notes from me round the NFL our Game this

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Speaker 2: week is sponsored by Lee Coom Lake Erie College of

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Speaker 2: Osteopathic Medicine. Friday means it's our Friday fan male back.

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Speaker 2: So you guys, if you have any questions, you can

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Speaker 2: tweet at us or call us at eight oh three

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Speaker 2: oh five point fifty the phone lines are open for you.

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Speaker 2: And then later in the show, we've got Greg Cosell

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Speaker 2: joining us at two o'clock to look forward to the

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Speaker 2: Steelers game.

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Speaker 1: I told Greg Cossell last week when he was on,

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Speaker 1: I said, the Bills are going to hang thirty points

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Speaker 1: on those guys. They're just gonna do it. They just

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Speaker 1: do it all the time. He did. He was like, Oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad to hear you say that. I totally blew it.

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Speaker 1: But I have been a reverse barometer for how the

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Speaker 1: Bills have done over the last month and a half.

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Speaker 1: I cannot pick a Bills game to save my life.

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Speaker 1: And they've been on that roller coaster this win loss, win, loss,

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Speaker 1: and this is what maybe it's a good thing. I man,

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Speaker 1: I this seems like an uphill battle to go to

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh with no offensive tackles. Kincaid, ify, Palmer ify, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. It just seems like a uphill.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, oh man.

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Speaker 1: I hate that our offensive linemans now are starting to

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Speaker 1: get it in your gosh darn it. Oh well, we'll see.

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00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: Bernard's out, Samuel's out, Spencer and Dion Dawkins are out.

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00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: Palmer and and Cad are questionable. It's not good.

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Speaker 2: I hope Kinkaid could go. That would be amazing, but

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Limited in practices. We'll see, we will see.

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Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna take a break. When we return,

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Speaker 2: we are gonna jump into the fan mail bag and

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Speaker 2: answer any questions do you have here. Give us a

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Speaker 2: call at eight O three oh five fifty One Bill's I,

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Speaker 2: presented by a Collida Health on Buffalo Bills Radio. All right,

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Speaker 2: we welcome back to one Bill's I Mighty glab alongside

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Speaker 2: of Steve Tasker here on Black Friday. We've got some callers,

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Speaker 2: so we're gonna head to the phone lines and get

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Speaker 2: to Kevin from Hamburg. Kevin, how you doing.

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Speaker 3: Free in Houston? To Tampa Maven over.

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Speaker 1: Kevin's talking to somebody else.

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Speaker 2: Kevin, can you hear us?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 3: I you know you're coming on that past. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 3: You're good.

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Speaker 2: How you doing.

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Speaker 3: Have a nice He'll be a nice holiday you and Steve?

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Okay, what I want to say is, obviously I'm worried

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Speaker 3: about the offensive line with those two guys missing, and

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Speaker 3: we haven't played TJ. Watt like we are this time.

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Speaker 3: We've I guess you want to call it luckily we

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Speaker 3: haven't played him in the last couple of times. Thank God.

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Speaker 3: I guess I want to call it, thank God, but

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Speaker 3: now we do. But I'm work saying worried about the

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Speaker 3: turnovers because I see the rankings when he showed the

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Speaker 3: rankings on the screen, the Steelers are fourth and turnover

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Speaker 3: margin and our offense has become a little bit too much,

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Speaker 3: like I guess you want to call it Santa Claus

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Speaker 3: and the turnovers candy games. So that's kind of spooky.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 3: Even the game we won Tampa Baby game a couple

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Speaker 3: of turnovers, So that's what I'm worried about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, thanks Kevin n Yeah, turnovers are concerned.

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Speaker 1: If you're into a team like well, Pittsburgh, despite the

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Speaker 1: fact they've got Aaron Rodgers, despite the fact that they

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Speaker 1: run the ball and they've got a big offensive line.

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Speaker 1: All that they they've struggled to score points. You don't

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Speaker 1: want to give them gifts, no question about it. And

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Speaker 1: you're right, it isn't concern if you start turning over

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Speaker 1: in the games of the Bills have lost, that has

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Speaker 1: been that has been the reason in my mind, in

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Speaker 1: my view, that has been the main reason why the

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Speaker 1: Bills have lost.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Bills have three turnovers in their last three games,

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Speaker 2: So that's they.

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Speaker 1: Lost three in the last three. So every all of

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Speaker 1: every one of the four losses, they've struggled in the

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Speaker 1: turnover margin. Now one of them they got lucky I

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Speaker 1: think and broke even, but they still lost the game.

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Speaker 2: But it's the Bucks game was the one where they

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Speaker 2: lost the turnover differential but still won the game. Doesn't

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Speaker 2: usually happen for this team. When you lose the turnover battle,

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Speaker 2: often you also lose the game. But yeah, the Steelers defense,

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Speaker 2: they rank second in takeaways with twenty. They don't turn

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Speaker 2: the ball over that much, so their turnover margin is

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Speaker 2: plus eight, which is a good number. Kevin called it

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Speaker 2: out fourth best in the league. And this defense, Buffalo's

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Speaker 2: defense has said, you know, we got to get back

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Speaker 2: to taking the football away. We got to get back

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Speaker 2: to giving the ball back to the offense. In a

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Speaker 2: game like this, where you're down two important starters on

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Speaker 2: the offensive line, you might want to try and grab

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Speaker 2: two extra possessions if you can, to help yourself out

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Speaker 2: and to get Aaron Rodgers and that rushing offense off

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Speaker 2: the field. I know on the season, the steelers Are

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Speaker 2: rushing offense hasn't been great, averaging under one hundred rushing

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Speaker 2: yards per game, but last week against the Bears, they

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Speaker 2: went off for one hundred and eighty six rushing yard cards,

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Speaker 2: which you have to believe they're going to try to

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Speaker 2: do the same thing against a Bill's defense that struggled

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Speaker 2: to stop the run so far this season. But the

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Speaker 2: Bills did add Shaka lost into their lineup, so he's

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Speaker 2: a good run defender. We'll see if he's a part

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Speaker 2: of the lineup for Sunday, because the.

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Speaker 1: Bills are going to do I mean, the Steelers are

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Speaker 1: going to do their best to run the rock and steamroll.

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Speaker 1: Keep Josh Allen sitting on the sideline. We'll see if

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Speaker 1: it works.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Miran from Virginia. Miran, how

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Speaker 2: you doing.

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Speaker 5: I'm doing great, Happy siming to you both. Thank you

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Speaker 5: to take my fall.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: The question I had in regards to Brandon cooks, how

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Speaker 5: long do y'all think it'll take him to get the

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Speaker 5: speed and be involved in the entire offense and what

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Speaker 5: kind of role do you think that he needs to

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Speaker 5: play in our offense in the water sheer room to

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Speaker 5: use his talents to the maximum fashion. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: It's a good question. I think he's a veteran, so

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Speaker 1: he'll pick up the concepts pretty fast. It's about learning

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Speaker 1: the verbiage. Getting him at the point of the week

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Speaker 1: where they did. He'll have some time to study. He

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Speaker 1: won't need to know one hundred percent of the playbook.

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Speaker 1: He'll need to know one hundred percent of the game plan,

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Speaker 1: and that's different. You can probably do that. You can

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Speaker 1: probably do that if they need him. They should be

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Speaker 1: able to call on him if he's active, active for

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Speaker 1: the game and all of that stuff and everything's cope

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Speaker 1: a setic. He should be ready to play and have

652
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: a pretty good handle on what he is supposed to do.

653
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 2: You might see him have a decent role returning punts

654
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 2: and kicks in this game.

655
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, And he can always do that. And they

656
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: could also give just give him a handful of plays

657
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,479
Speaker 1: where he's in on them. Uh, and he'll be either

658
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: the center of attendant, he'll get the ball, he'll be

659
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: in there to get the ball, or he'll be in

660
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 1: there to take the lid off the defense and run

661
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 1: through and play cleared out. So there's a lot he

662
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: can do even on this given this short week. It'll

663
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: all depend on what they need him to do, what

664
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: they want, what they feel like the game plan looks like,

665
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: and we don't know any of that, but I think

666
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: he'll be available and able to participate in a big

667
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: way if they want him and need him to be.

668
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 2: I kind of compare it to when McCole Hardman came

669
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 2: into the lineup and was active for the one game

670
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 2: before he got injured. We saw Hardman returning kip kicks

671
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 2: and had a few snaps at wide receiver. He had

672
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 2: four snaps at wide receiver during that Bucks game, which

673
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 2: is good for seven percent snaps. So you could see

674
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 2: something similar to that where you don't have too much

675
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 2: time in this offense going into this game. So let's

676
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 2: get you in there for a few plays, like you said,

677
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,760
Speaker 2: and maybe he's back there returning punts in kicks.

678
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: It's not an I get the Micole Hardman thing where

679
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: he came in and did some nice thing, had the

680
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 1: nice return and stuff. Then obviously he also fumbled one way,

681
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: which is no good. But you could see a guy

682
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 1: coming in and you know how it is. You can

683
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: imagine how it is. Is pretty easy. You go in,

684
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 1: you're new and you want to make a good impression

685
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: on your new teammates. You're getting a chance to go

686
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 1: out and carry the rock. You know they're gonna give

687
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: you the ball. It's gonna be great. And because of

688
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 1: your adrenaline, because of the fact that you only practiced

689
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: for four days, all of a sudden, boom, pulled hamstring.

690
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: You know, it's the adrenaline and the fact that you

691
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: can't practice at full you know, all that stuff that

692
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: goes into it, and all of a sudden, after being

693
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: away from New Orleans for as long as he's been

694
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks and then having jumping in right

695
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: away two feet with the Buffalo bills and going a

696
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,240
Speaker 1: thousand miles per hour. That to me is a concern.

697
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 1: That's exactly like it was with Mkole Hardman.

698
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Rick in Denver. Rick, how

699
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 2: you doing.

700
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 6: Hey, guys, good to talk to you. I get a

701
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 6: question for you. I mean, Bean has made several gas

702
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 6: this season as well as the off season, and some

703
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 6: of the moves that he's made. But to me, the

704
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 6: one that's the big guest is stating that this is

705
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 6: a championship roster. And then when McDermott was asked about it,

706
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 6: he said he loved all the guys in the locker room.

707
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 6: And you know, to me, that was an unfair comment

708
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 6: by Bean. I mean, everybody knows this is look you

709
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 6: can't make. You can't say it is or it isn't.

710
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 6: But it's a stretch for anybody to look at this

711
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 6: roster and think it's a championship roster and then to

712
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 6: have that pressure put on McDermott and almost have the

713
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 6: buck pass to him and saying, hey, I did what

714
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 6: I was supposed to do. I got you the players.

715
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 6: If we don't end up in the playoffs or the

716
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 6: Super Bowl, that's on you and the coaches, and I

717
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 6: don't know. I just out of all the things that

718
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 6: he's done, Bean, I think this was probably the most

719
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 6: unfair comment that he's made so far, and I just

720
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 6: wanted to kind of get your guys thoughts on it.

721
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it's thanks. Yeah, it's a little bit you're

722
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: exaggerating your take, your point of view, I think a

723
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: little bit. Don't read too much into the championship rosters

724
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: have certainly the problem with that is and I it

725
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 1: sounds like an excuse and say what you want about it.

726
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: I think it's the truth. We'll never gonna find out

727
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 1: what kind of roster they had. Ed Oliver's out for

728
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: the whole season. Michael Hoyts out for the whole season,

729
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: was out for six games, and then he got two

730
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: games and he's out, and he looked like he was

731
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: going to be a difference maker. They were depending on

732
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 1: those guys. Max Harrison missed half the season. Now Terrell

733
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: Bernard is not gonna make it, you know, part of it.

734
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: You've got injuries all over the defensive side of the ball,

735
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: now offensive side of the ball as well. Now your

736
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: offensive line is not We'll never see what kind of

737
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: roster this was. And you can say well they didn't

738
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: have that. Well, yeah, they didn't have the depth. Well

739
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: they're seven and four with backup players at some key spots.

740
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: I gotta be honest, Brandon Bean is not the only

741
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: guy who thought that about this roster in September when

742
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: they were four. No, he's not the only guy who

743
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 1: thought a lot of people thought it, including his head coach.

744
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: I would imagine, and I get what you're saying about Hey,

745
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: Brandon saying, like wiping his hands with the whole thing, say,

746
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 1: I got all these great players and if we don't

747
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: make it, it's Sean mcdermot's fault. Nobody thinks like that.

748
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: I get it. You do, and some others do, and

749
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 1: certainly the GM is it gets final say on who

750
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: the fifty three is. It's kind of the mechanics of

751
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: the way the league works. But believe me, those McDermott

752
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: and Bean are united in the decisions they make about

753
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: the roster. Certainly, Bean has the freedom, with Sean's okay,

754
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: to make some moves on a week to week basis,

755
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: without you know, Sean going in and pouring over the

756
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: film and evaluating this guy and that guy. He trusts

757
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean in that regard. But those two guys are are,

758
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 1: you know, in lockstep? Is that their philosophy, how they work,

759
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 1: the kind of players they want, the philosophy of You

760
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: think Sean McDermott doesn't have anything to say about the

761
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: fact that they bring back Jordan Poia, Micah High, Jordan Poor,

762
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: Micah Hyde, Jordan Phillips, you know, and now Shaq Lawson,

763
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 1: all these guys that have been here before that are

764
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: coming back. That that's as much Brandon that's as much

765
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott having as saying who they bring back as

766
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: it is Brandon Bean saying I'm gonna go out and

767
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: get these guys, you know, refresh this roster. I'm gonna

768
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: get some new guys and bring some guys who are

769
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: more athletically gifted in. Let Sean will now this is

770
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: this is a team effort. So they're in this together.

771
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 1: And you know, you can say what you want about

772
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,919
Speaker 1: this roster being whatever it is, whatever level you want

773
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: to call it. A lot of people thought this was

774
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: a championship roster in September when they were healthy and

775
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: they were waiting on Hoyt to come back and Ogunjobi

776
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: to come back, and they thought Max Harriston would have been,

777
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: should have been, could have been starting corner in the

778
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: NFL Week one, and they had to wait on eight

779
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: weeks for him and all this other stuff. Now this week,

780
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: of course, you got two both offensive tackles are out

781
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 1: and your tight ends down again, So you can say

782
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: what you want. But Brandon Bean coming out and saying

783
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: he thought this was a championship roster, he was not

784
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: alone at all. National media, local media, everybody loved where

785
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: this roster was headed. And certainly there were some question

786
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: marks about it, but welcome to the NFL. So and

787
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: I don't think McDermott balked at all when Brandon Bean

788
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: said that it's the roster he wanted as much as

789
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean. Those guys are together in this so I

790
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: get what you're saying. And at certain points of this season,

791
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 1: maybe this week included. It's pretty disappointing, you know, after

792
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: a tough loss that we just took on the road

793
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: last week and the Miami lost down in South Florida.

794
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,439
Speaker 1: It's rough. It's hard to get through this and think,

795
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: like to see the light at the end of the tunnel.

796
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, no doubt that this is you know, they

797
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: were not alone in their assessment of how good this

798
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,720
Speaker 1: roster could be when it was healthy.

799
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 2: Brandon Bean made those comments coming off of the trade

800
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 2: deadline when they had just beaten the Kansas City Chiefs.

801
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 2: They were six and two at that point in the season.

802
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 2: You had Michael Hoyt for that Chiefs game, and then

803
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 2: you go into the Miami Dolphins game, which they unfortunately lose.

804
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,479
Speaker 2: I think you also have a general manager who's saying

805
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 2: that he believes in his team. What do you want

806
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 2: the general manager to do? Sit up there and be like, no,

807
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 2: this is not a championship roster.

808
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 1: So too, just because he thinks it's a good roster,

809
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean he was trying to get it better

810
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: as well. Even during the trade deadline he couldn't find

811
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: anybody to do business with he. I mean, just because

812
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 1: he thinks it's as good as a really good roster,

813
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 1: all that doesn't mean it's not his job to try

814
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 1: and get it better. And that's what they're trying to

815
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: do all the time even now. But let's face it, now,

816
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: the options are limited, right, I mean, you're not going

817
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: to go out and you can't trade and all that stuff,

818
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: so your options are limited, but they're still doing that

819
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 1: even as we speak. They do it all the time.

820
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: The roster is never set in stone at all.

821
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 2: I don't want a head guy of whatever going up

822
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 2: in front of people and saying that they don't believe

823
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 2: in what they're a part of. You know, you have

824
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 2: to show that you believe in your team, regardless of

825
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 2: the injuries, regardless of what the roster looks like, because

826
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 2: that not only instills confidence in the coaches, it also

827
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 2: instills confidence in the players too. You don't know who's

828
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 2: gonna listen to that press conference. You might have a

829
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 2: second or third string player listening to it and being like, Wow,

830
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 2: our GM believes in us. He believes we have a

831
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 2: championship roster. You don't want to go up and there

832
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 2: be like, yeah, we got a lot of injuries, this

833
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 2: isn't gonna be our year. Sorry, like I didn't do

834
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 2: my job. What of course he's gonna.

835
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: Say, yeah, you're right, Maddy. When he says stuff like that,

836
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: he's talking to the locker room as much as he

837
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 1: is to the media. He's talking to the coaching staff,

838
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: and the coaching staff is echoing that, saying like, we

839
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: like our guys let's go. That's group dynamics has very

840
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 1: little to do with public opinion.

841
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta believe in what you have going on.

842
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 2: We're gonna take a break, but when we return, we've

843
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 2: got a Steelers injury update for you coming up next

844
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 2: Here on one Bill's Live were presented by Clyde Health

845
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:35,240
Speaker 2: on Buffalo Bills Radio time for Collision Course. It's presented

846
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 2: by Gabe's Collision, Your Car's Best Defense and the Collision

847
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 2: course for week thirteen. We're saying is Buffalo's offensive line

848
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 2: against the Steelers defense. We know the Bills are without

849
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 2: right tackle Spencer Brown and left tackle Dion Dawkins. The

850
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 2: Steelers defensive line defense overall good one Now, their strength

851
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 2: is upfront with their pass rush led by TJ.

852
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:57,919
Speaker 1: Watt.

853
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 2: He just passed his brother jj Wa in career sack

854
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 2: numbers last week. The Steelers defensive line is top ten

855
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,959
Speaker 2: in blitz percentage, top five in sacks, and top three

856
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 2: and quarterback hits. So something the Bills are gonna have

857
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 2: to be ready for if they want to protect their

858
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 2: quarterback better than they did last week when he was

859
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 2: hit a career high eight times, was brought to the

860
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 2: ground and then was hit twelve different times. Now, their

861
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 2: weakness on the Steelers is with their pass defense not

862
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,439
Speaker 2: the best. They're allowing two hundred and fifty eight point

863
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 2: seven passing yards per game. That's good for thirty first

864
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Speaker 2: in the league. They're allowing seven point one passing yards

865
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 2: per attempt. That's eighteenth in the NFL. So we'll see

866
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 2: what happens. We'll see what Buffalo's plan is. If they

867
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Speaker 2: decide to start it off by trying to establish the run,

868
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 2: let James Cook go.

869
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 1: It seems obvious a couple of things. You can run

870
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,919
Speaker 1: the ball and kick the ball out of Josh's hands

871
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: and try and just negate their pass rush by not

872
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: throwing the football as much.

873
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 2: Quick passing game, and then get the.

874
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: Ball out of Josh's hands, and then you throw the football,

875
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 1: get it out, throw a shotgun, do those quick tunnel

876
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: screens and throw this. You know, the quick passing game

877
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 1: and the timing game. But sooner or later you're gonna

878
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: get into a spot where you're gonna have to drop back,

879
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: and that's when you're really gonna find out the depth

880
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 1: of your tackle spot. It's uh, you know, Atlanta, Houston

881
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: and now Pittsburgh three team. Two of those teams beating

882
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: you already, and all of them with the kind of

883
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: team built like Pittsburgh. Steelers are great front, great pass rush.

884
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: Now the secondary of Pittsburgh might be able, might be vulnerable.

885
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: They're not as athletic, they're very experienced, but they've struggled.

886
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: They've blown coverages on a regular basis. So you've got

887
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: to be ready to take advantage of that if your

888
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: quarterback can stay upright. A lot of question marks about

889
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 1: this game going in. How well can the Bills offensive

890
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: line hold up and can they take advantage of a

891
00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: secondary that's been exploited by other teams. That's it's a

892
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: real question because of the you know, the two tackles

893
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: that are going to be down.

894
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:09,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Steelers practice updates just happened. Mike Tomlin just spoke

895
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 2: to media and said that Aaron Rodgers was a full

896
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 2: participant in Friday's practice. He will have no injury designation

897
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 2: for Sunday. All systems go, so Aaron Rodgers will be

898
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 2: starting at quarterback for Pittsburgh on Sunday. Mike Tomlin also

899
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 2: saying that dk Metcalf, who's been dealing with an ankle

900
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 2: injury and Alex high Smith, who's been dealing with a

901
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 2: peck injury, are also good to go Against the Bills.

902
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 2: Roderick Jones is out and Andrews Pete will start at

903
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 2: left tackle, so both teams down their starting left tackles.

904
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 2: We'll see which replacement does a better job protecting their quarterback.

905
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,439
Speaker 1: Or which defensive line can get loose better.

906
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 2: Yep, we're taking a break. We see we still have

907
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Speaker 2: some phone callers hanging on, so we'll get to you

908
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 2: not this next segment, but the segment after because NFL

909
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 2: Film's senior producer Cosell joining the show next. On One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live, We're presented by clydah Health on Buffalo Bills Radio.

911
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live, presented by Calledlida Health.

912
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 2: Welcome to One Bill's Live. We hope you guys are

913
00:48:56,160 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 2: enjoying your Friday afternoon. Mattie Glab here alongside of Tasker

914
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Speaker 2: and for our number two, we are happy to be

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Speaker 2: joined by NFL Film senior producer Greg co Sell, who's

916
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Speaker 2: also the co host of ESPN's NFL Matchup. Greg co

917
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,800
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918
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,720
Speaker 2: Pepsi is the official soft drink of the Buffalo Bills.

919
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 2: Food Deserves PEPSI. All right, Greg, how you doing today?

920
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 4: I'm doing great, guys. How you guys doing good?

921
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 1: Happy thanks Giving? Thanks for coming on with us.

922
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were happy to have some football yesterday. But

923
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 2: before we look ahead to Buffalo's game against the Steelers.

924
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 2: We haven't talked to you since the Bills played the Texans.

925
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 2: Now that feels like it was ages ago because it

926
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 2: was on Thursday Night Football last week. What did you

927
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:46,280
Speaker 2: make of that unfortunate outcome of the game. The Bills

928
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 2: lost to the Texans and Josh Allen was sacked eight times,

929
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 2: the most in his career.

930
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.

931
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 4: It was not a good watch if you're a Bills

932
00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 4: fan obviously. Yeah, you know. It's look, you know, you're

933
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:06,399
Speaker 4: dealing in a situation that there's so many facts. It's

934
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 4: really a trifecta because you know, to me, the Bills

935
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 4: pass game, in terms of their concepts, I think they

936
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Speaker 4: need more. I think they need to expand their pass

937
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 4: game concepts. So what you have is if Josh Allen

938
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 4: doesn't feel like he can turn it loose right away,

939
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 4: and he does have a tendency obviously to want to

940
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 4: leave the pocket. That's just the way in which he plays.

941
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 4: It's not likely to change. There's always going to be

942
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 4: some throws that he probably should make that he doesn't.

943
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 4: We've seen him many times make special plays when he

944
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 4: does that. But when you're dealing with an old line

945
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 4: that really really struggled, a pass game that just I

946
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 4: think is probably not that hard tactically to defend, and

947
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 4: a quarterback that will will leave the pocket prematurely, it

948
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 4: kind of all came together. Although I will say this,

949
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 4: and this might sound like a bold, controversial statement given

950
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 4: what he did the week before, I actually thought Josh

951
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:06,439
Speaker 4: Gallen overall, overall, and I'm just isolating the quarterback play,

952
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 4: I actually thought he played just as well or better

953
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 4: against the Texans than he did against Buffalo, you know,

954
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 4: I mean then he did against Tampa. You know, this

955
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 4: game he almost had no chance on many plays, and

956
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 4: I actually thought, you know, this is one of the

957
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 4: few games where he truly was running for his life.

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00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this team they're playing this week, the Pittsburgh Steelers,

959
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: And he looked back at the season. The Bills have

960
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: gone through teams that they've looked bad against, Atlanta and

961
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: then Houston, both of whom have outstanding pass rushes, and

962
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: this this Steelers team has kind of built like they

963
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: may not be as good as Atlanta, may whatever, but

964
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: the Steelers are built like those teams that the Bills

965
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 1: have struggled with. And Dion Dawkins is not gonna play,

966
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: Spencer Brown is not gonna play. I mean, this is

967
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 1: you know, you're looking at it, you know a recipe

968
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: for disaster.

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00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 4: Well, you know, this is one of those games where

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00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 4: I think you literally have to structure your game plan

971
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 4: to help your tackles because, you know, especially when it's

972
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,720
Speaker 4: you know, pure pass or third and long situations, because

973
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 4: you just can't ask. I assume Ryan Vandermark is going

974
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 4: to be one tackle, right.

975
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 1: We can only assume they're being coy with who's starting

976
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: and who's replacing. They've got Tyland Grable, They've got Alec Anderson,

977
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: They've got Vandermark h and Chase Lunt the rookie. Yeah.

978
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 4: So the point is is whoever is out there is

979
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 4: not going to be able to block with any particularly

980
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 4: if you have to take a little deeper drop. I'm

981
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 4: not talking about first and ten guys. I'm talking about

982
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 4: those pure pass situations where you can't throw a four

983
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 4: yard pass, you know, and you have to actually have

984
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 4: to push the ball down the field a little. It

985
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 4: would be unrealistic. And I don't think I'm saying anything

986
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 4: profound to expect any one of those guys to block TJ.

987
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 4: Watt one on one in those kinds of situations. So

988
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 4: now you have to deal with that in terms of

989
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 4: your offensive game planning. You can do it multiple ways, Steve,

990
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 4: and you know this. You can do it with formation.

991
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 4: You put a tight end there and it just sort

992
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 4: of slows down to J. Watt. You can chip them,

993
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 4: you can make you can have a primary pass protector

994
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 4: there as well, in which means you're going to have

995
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 4: one less eligible receiver and that changes your pass game.

996
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 4: So the point is whatever you do. And by the way,

997
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 4: is high Smith due to play this week for Pittsburgh.

998
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 4: I think he's.

999
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin just said he's good to go.

1000
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 4: All right, So now you have a guy on the

1001
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 4: other side who's not bad either, by the way, And

1002
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 4: so you know you're dealing in a situation that when

1003
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 4: you get into these long yard it's situations, and they

1004
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 4: happen in every game We're not going to sit here

1005
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:38,919
Speaker 4: and say it's never going to be third and nine,

1006
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 4: because it will be. You know, now, you have to

1007
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 4: think about protection first. You can't go into this game saying, hey,

1008
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 4: Josh will take care of it because he can run around.

1009
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 4: You can't take that approach. You've got to protect because

1010
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 4: I learned very early, Steve, and you know this. I

1011
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 4: remember having a conversation many many years ago with John

1012
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 4: Gruden and one of the first things he said to

1013
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 4: me was, you don't have a pass game without protection.

1014
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 4: It's as simple as that.

1015
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: Right and now. And having said that as well, the

1016
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: thing that the Steelers have struggled with is their coverage.

1017
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: They they're not ah, they're blown coverages on a little

1018
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: bit of a regular basis. They look a little bit,

1019
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: you know, they look a bit older long in the two.

1020
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 1: Now there's some wisdom and some knowledge back there, but

1021
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like they're playing as a cohesive unit

1022
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: all the time. And if you're going to be able

1023
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 1: to take advantage of the Steeler defense, that may be

1024
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 1: the spot.

1025
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 4: It's funny you say that, because that was the next

1026
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 4: point I was going to bring up. Watching the Steelers

1027
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 4: last week, which was really kind of a microcosm of

1028
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 4: the season. Watching them against the Bears last week, there

1029
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 4: were so many voids in their zone coverage it was

1030
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 4: almost you knew something was not right. I mean, look,

1031
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 4: we all know, guys, that there's voids in every zone

1032
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 4: because otherwise everybody would play the same zone. But their

1033
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 4: voids were so big that something was not right. And

1034
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 4: it's been like that all season long. So you you know, again,

1035
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 4: you hope they don't get well this week, but you

1036
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 4: have to be able to tack them when they play zone,

1037
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,800
Speaker 4: because you're right, Jalen Ramsey is now pretty much a

1038
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 4: full time safety, and as good and as smart a

1039
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 4: player as he is, he hasn't played a lot of

1040
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:10,240
Speaker 4: full time safety in his career.

1041
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 1: You know.

1042
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 4: It's it's a different deal. It's not the same as being,

1043
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 4: you know, playing corner on the outside or playing the

1044
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,439
Speaker 4: star position. That's a lot of position which he's played

1045
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,399
Speaker 4: for so long. It's a totally different position when you're

1046
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 4: a post safety. So hopefully that they'll be able to

1047
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 4: exploit some of those voids and they'll still exist.

1048
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 2: One of the reasons why Buffalo's offense has been a

1049
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 2: little bit disjointed of the last as of the last

1050
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 2: few weeks has been their turnovers. They've had three turnovers

1051
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 2: in the last three games. What is going wrong with

1052
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 2: the fact that they're turning the ball over so frequently?

1053
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 2: And how can they see some improvement there? Against the

1054
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:48,879
Speaker 2: Steelers team who you don't you don't want to miss

1055
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 2: out on possessions against.

1056
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 4: Them, Well, you're getting into a tough spot because you know,

1057
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 4: you're dealing with a quarterback who is really an aggressive player.

1058
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 4: And you know, it's funny. Last year, it's almost as

1059
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:01,800
Speaker 4: if they truly rained him in and it kind of

1060
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 4: worked obviously. But I think at his core, Josh is

1061
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 4: really an aggressive player, and I think if he feels

1062
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 4: even more so that he has to do it by himself.

1063
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 4: I'm not saying he does or doesn't. I don't know

1064
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 4: what's in his head, but I think he's the kind

1065
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:17,919
Speaker 4: of guy that's going to turn it loose and try

1066
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 4: to make plays if he feels like the game calls

1067
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 4: for it. I mean, look at the game against Tampa

1068
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 4: a few weeks ago, where on one of the early

1069
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 4: possessions first or second, he tried to make that throw

1070
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 4: deep in his own end, which was just ad, you know,

1071
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 4: bad decision. But those are the kinds of things he

1072
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 4: tries to do, you know sometimes. Look, I thought the

1073
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 4: interceptions that this past week, which were two of the

1074
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 4: three turnovers, obviously somehow he didn't see the underneath coverage

1075
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 4: by toe Otoe when he tipped the ball. You know,

1076
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 4: only he could tell you what he saw. I can,

1077
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 4: but he was sitting right in the passing lane. And

1078
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 4: believe it or not, I know it looked really bad

1079
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 4: and it looked like they had a chance to win

1080
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 4: the game. In Steve, I'd love your point of view

1081
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 4: on this, but I actually thought that land last interception

1082
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 4: was not on Josh. He threw that ball when he

1083
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 4: expected More to cut in front of Bullock and cross

1084
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 4: his face, and after he released the ball is when

1085
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 4: More broke up field. So I and here we're looking

1086
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 4: at it right now. So it looks really bad, Steve,

1087
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 4: as a lot of interceptions do. But I actually did

1088
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 4: not think that was on Josh.

1089
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, and we may never know the real

1090
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 1: answers to that. But and like Peyton Manning has told

1091
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: me a number of times, every interception's got a story

1092
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: nobody wants to hear it right, But then by the way, I.

1093
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 4: Still think he threw it to the wrong receiver, by

1094
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 4: the way, And so I will say that because I

1095
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 4: don't want people to think, you know, I thought that

1096
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 4: that he should have thrown it to Knocks on the

1097
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 4: crosser because he was wide open off the mesh concept.

1098
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 4: But I still think that the interception itself, he expected

1099
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 4: more to cross the Now, I don't think it would

1100
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 4: have been complete, but it probably wouldn't have been intercepted.

1101
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: Now in this game, he kind of get it. Trying

1102
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 1: to get a feel what the game might look like.

1103
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers coming in, got a risk injury on his

1104
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 1: non throwing hand. They have a big offensive line. You

1105
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 1: can bet that they don't want to put this game

1106
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 1: on the all on the plate of Aaron Rodgers. They'd

1107
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 1: love to run the football. They go heavy a lot

1108
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 1: more than other people do. The Bills run defense has

1109
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 1: a bad reputation for allowing a lot of yards. It's

1110
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: kind of looks to me like this game might turn

1111
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: into a rock fight right where. Yeah, you know, like

1112
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: one of those you know, twelve to ten games. You know,

1113
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 1: if you can score ten, I don't even know if

1114
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: you can, but you know what I mean. So yeah,

1115
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 1: so is that kind of what you're seeing as well?

1116
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: I mean, the Steelers are going to come in and

1117
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: they're Tomlin's conservative, yes, and the Bills, you know they

1118
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 1: go ahead?

1119
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, I look, they line up a lot

1120
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 4: with two and three tight ends Darnell Washington. He may

1121
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 4: be listed at two sixty five, but I have it

1122
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 4: on good knowledge he's over three hundred pounds, so he's

1123
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 4: basically another tackle, although they do throw it to him

1124
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 4: once in a while and he's a big man. But

1125
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 4: you're right, they line up, they go heavy. They want

1126
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 4: to run the ball Aaron Rodgers, and again this is

1127
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 4: probably not on Aaron Rodgers. Maybe it's on Arthur Smith.

1128
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 4: I don't know the answer. But they rarely ever throw

1129
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 4: the ball between the numbers. This is not a team

1130
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 4: that works the middle of the field hardly at all

1131
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 4: to their wide receivers. So again, unless there's a dramatic

1132
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 4: change this week, we have, you know what, eleven games.

1133
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 4: I guess up to this point where they've hardly thrown

1134
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 4: the ball between the numbers. I think that it's the

1135
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 4: lowest number of throws between the numbers from like ten

1136
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 4: to twenty yards in the league, you know, so you know,

1137
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 4: that's what they've done up to this point. They want

1138
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 4: to be physical, they want to run the ball. They

1139
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 4: don't want to turn it over, obviously, but they sort

1140
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 4: of play like that. So you really have to make

1141
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 4: sure that you stop their run game and put them

1142
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 4: in long yarded situations.

1143
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 1: How has dk Metcalf meshed into this offense, and how's

1144
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 1: he working with Aaron Rodgers.

1145
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 4: You know, I don't really see it right now, Steve.

1146
00:59:56,600 --> 01:00:00,120
Speaker 4: I don't think they're comfortable together. So you know, it's

1147
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:00,959
Speaker 4: a hard question to answer.

1148
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 1: We don't know.

1149
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 4: We're not there, so we don't know, you know, how

1150
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 4: they interact and all that. But in terms of what's

1151
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:09,439
Speaker 4: what I see on the field, it's he's not really

1152
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 4: the big factor in terms of volume targets that I

1153
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,479
Speaker 4: think they hoped when they got him. I mean, every

1154
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 4: one said, look, can he take a short pass and

1155
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 4: take it to the house like he did a number

1156
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 4: of weeks ago, for you know, a seventy five or

1157
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 4: eighty r touchdown? Can he run by a corner because

1158
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 4: he's big and fat, Sure, and that can happen in

1159
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 4: any game. It just hasn't happened very much at all

1160
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 4: this season.

1161
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 2: You spoke about Aaron Rodgers and that left wrist injury

1162
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 2: that he's dealing with, and how the Steelers might want

1163
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 2: to run the football because of that. Well, Rodgers is

1164
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 2: also has the second fastest time to throw in the league,

1165
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 2: so he gets the ball out really quick, and you

1166
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 2: would expect with an injury might try and get it

1167
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 2: out even quicker. As a defensive line, how do you

1168
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 2: effectively pressure a quarterback when you're going up against somebody

1169
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 2: like that.

1170
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 4: Well, then it's hard obviously to get pressure, Maddy, So

1171
01:00:58,560 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 4: what do you have to do. This is a classic

1172
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 4: case of where you got to get your hands up

1173
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 4: that kind of thing, try to knock down balls. But

1174
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 4: now I think it's also incumbent upon the coverage. You

1175
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 4: have to study in great detail, which I know they do.

1176
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 4: All coaches do this, the kinds of routes that they run.

1177
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 4: Make sure they're not a big press man team, so

1178
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 4: there all of a sudden, I don't think they're going

1179
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 4: to line up and play hardcore press. But then you

1180
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 4: have to have a great feel for routes so you

1181
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 4: can get into passing lanes and take away those throws.

1182
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 4: Because the last thing you want is him to get

1183
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 4: into a rhythm, even if they're six yard passes. You

1184
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 4: don't want him to feel comfortable that, hey, I'm getting

1185
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 4: the ball out, we're completing balls, and we're just getting

1186
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 4: into a rhythm. Then the run game becomes even more

1187
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:40,479
Speaker 4: important because if it's always second and three or third

1188
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 4: and two, the run game stays a factor. So it's

1189
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 4: not so much the big explosive plays. They don't make

1190
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 4: a ton of those relative to the rest of the league,

1191
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 4: but you don't want them to feel that the run

1192
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 4: game can be a factor throughout the whole game.

1193
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 1: Well, one of the things that happens is correct me

1194
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. If you're gonna get rushed the passer

1195
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 1: like Aaron Rodgers, you kind of think it's you're not

1196
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 1: gonna get home, right, he's gonna get rid of the football.

1197
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 1: The problem is if you don't act like you want

1198
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 1: to get there, he won't throw it. Yeah, he won't

1199
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 1: throw it, and it's you know, he extends the play

1200
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 1: and he's not like he used to be where he's

1201
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 1: running everywhere. But the guy's poised, right, and that's really

1202
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 1: what makes him so dangerous. If you don't force him

1203
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 1: to throw it. He won't, and then it extends the play,

1204
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 1: Then you're off the page, and then all these bad

1205
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 1: things happen to your defense.

1206
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 4: It's a great point, Steve, because that's that's sort of

1207
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 4: the corollary to him not throwing, you know, not throwing

1208
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 4: it is now all of a sudden, you've got to

1209
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 4: cover for five or six seconds, and that becomes a

1210
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 4: big deal. And you know, and he's obviously always had

1211
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 4: unbelievable vision. He can still see the field as well

1212
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 4: as anybody. He's super intelligent. So you're right in a

1213
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 4: sense you do want him to throw it, but you

1214
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 4: want to make sure that he can't get into a

1215
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 4: comfortable rhythm. So I'll be real curious to see what

1216
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 4: Sean McDermott and Babbage and you know, what they have

1217
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 4: in store here, how they want to go about playing

1218
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 4: because it's it's it seems easy because you look at

1219
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:02,919
Speaker 4: their stats and you go, boy, they're not a great

1220
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:05,439
Speaker 4: passing team. But you know, the guy can still throw

1221
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 4: the ball really well. You just don't want him to

1222
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 4: start to feel really comfortable throwing it.

1223
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 2: What's another matchup within this game that's important that is

1224
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 2: not being talked about enough right now.

1225
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 4: Oh, you know, it's to me, it's it's really it's

1226
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 4: it's their defense and their front versus the Bills offense.

1227
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 4: Because they're front that happens to be very good.

1228
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 1: That's you know, we.

1229
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 4: Spoke about the edge players, but they're they're really good inside.

1230
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 4: Cano Benton's a really good player, Queen and Peyton Wilson

1231
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 4: plays in the nickel. He doesn't necessarily play in their base,

1232
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 4: but we'll see what they do. But he's a really

1233
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 4: good pass defender. He's long, he's athletic. I think they're front,

1234
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 4: they're front six or they're front seven. If they're on

1235
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 4: a base kind of five to two front, it's really good.

1236
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 4: It's just the back end where they really struggle. But

1237
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 4: you know, you have to make their back end be

1238
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 4: able to play in this game. But in order to

1239
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 4: do that, it gets back to our initial point. You

1240
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 4: got to protect, and that's they've got to be able

1241
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 4: to get to their back end. If they can't get

1242
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:13,919
Speaker 4: to their back end, it's it's gonna be hard.

1243
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 1: So the Bills are still they're number one in rushing

1244
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 1: yards a game in the league and the number three

1245
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 1: in rushing yards of play. Can they run it on

1246
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 1: this front.

1247
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,439
Speaker 4: I think they're gonna try. They always do. The question

1248
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 4: is can they have sustainability? Look, I know that that

1249
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 4: Cook had the forty five yarder. I guess that ended

1250
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 4: the first or second series, and you know against Houston

1251
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 4: you can't count on those plays though, as you guys know,

1252
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 4: you can't say, well, you know Cook's gonna break. You

1253
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 4: know a forty five fifty yard will be in great shape.

1254
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 4: So the question becomes sustainability. Can they run enough so

1255
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 4: that they stay ahead of the sticks? That's really the

1256
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 4: number one thing, because then you stay out of having

1257
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 4: Josh Allen to have deeper drops. The pressure becoming a factor.

1258
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:57,920
Speaker 4: Can they run enough where and of course it doesn't

1259
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 4: happen every play, but can you run enough where they're

1260
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 4: sustainability and you know it's second and four as opposed

1261
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 4: to second and eight, or nine where it's third and

1262
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 4: two as opposed to third and eight. You know, to

1263
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 4: me that becomes the big factor. And how they choose

1264
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 4: to do it. Are they going to try to do

1265
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 4: it out of eleven personnel? Are they going to try

1266
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 4: to do it out of big people and play Gilliam

1267
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 4: a lot and Hause a lot how are they you know,

1268
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 4: because I guess Kinkaid as we speak today is questionable, right, We.

1269
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 2: Don't know he's being questionable, Yes, questionable.

1270
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 4: Well, let's assume he's not gonna go, and if he does,

1271
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 4: that's wonderful. But if he doesn't, the question is, are

1272
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 4: they gonna play with Gilliam? Are they gonna play with

1273
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 4: two tight ends? Are they going to try to spread

1274
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 4: him out? You know, these are all things we don't

1275
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:42,440
Speaker 4: know the answer to. But you know, I'm very curious

1276
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 4: to see how they choose to run it, because this

1277
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 4: is not a defense, particularly with their tackles, where they

1278
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 4: can ask Josh by choice, as good as he can be,

1279
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 4: to drop back forty times by choice.

1280
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 2: Right this team is seven and four, the Buffalo Bill

1281
01:05:56,760 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 2: sitting at seven right now in the conference standing is

1282
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 2: now the next three weeks, including this week, Steelers, then

1283
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 2: Bengals than Patriots. What do you need to see out

1284
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 2: of this group that you haven't seen consistently enough this season?

1285
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Speaker 4: I know it's a tough go even playing in The

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Speaker 4: Browns have a really good defense too, and then Philly.

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Speaker 4: But the defense, you know, the defense to me is

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Speaker 4: built on fundamental execution and They're really good at changing

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Speaker 4: the picture post snap. They're one of the best teams.

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Speaker 4: Sean McDermott's always been good at that. But it's really

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Speaker 4: a defense built on the execution because they don't really

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Speaker 4: have that dominant impact player at any level. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I love the way Cole Bishop has developed, but you know,

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Speaker 4: we certainly aren't going to put him at the level

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Speaker 4: of the best safeties in the league at this point.

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Speaker 4: I think I loved him coming out of college. I

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Speaker 4: think he can get there at some point, but I'm

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Speaker 4: not sure you want to say that right now in

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Speaker 4: his first full season as a starter. But I love

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Speaker 4: the way he plays. I think he's smart, savvy, he's

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Speaker 4: more athletic than people think. But they don't really have

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Speaker 4: an impact player at any level. They've got solid players,

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Speaker 4: but it's really about the fundamental execution of what they do,

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Speaker 4: and that has to happen in this game, particularly with

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Speaker 4: their run defense.

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Speaker 2: All Right, thank you, Greg, appreciate your time, Appreciate you

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Speaker 2: helping us break down this matchup against the Steelers on

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Speaker 2: Sunday afternoon.

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Speaker 4: Steve, you're not saying they're going to score thirty right now, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Not gonna say that this time. I said that last

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01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 1: week and I barely missed. So I am the I

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Speaker 1: am an absolute reverse barometer for everything goes. So having

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Speaker 1: said that, they'll probably hang fifty on these guys because

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Speaker 1: I think it's uphill battle.

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Speaker 4: It'll be one of those games. Yeah, yeah, yeah, great guys.

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Speaker 1: Thanks appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: I hope you have holiday weekend.

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Speaker 1: Thank you as well. All Right.

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Speaker 2: That was NFL Film senior producer Greg co Sell, also

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Speaker 2: the co host of the ESPN's NFL matchup Bill's Mafia.

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Speaker 2: It's tailgating season and there's nothing better than an ice

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Speaker 2: cold Pepsi zero sugar to pair with your tailgating food rituals.

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Speaker 2: As a great Josh Allen once said, Bills fans deserve pepsi.

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Speaker 2: Bill's Mafia has brought it this season, and so has Pepsi.

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Speaker 2: Bill's tailgates deserve Pepsi. Go Bills. All Right, we heard

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Speaker 2: some good.

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Speaker 1: Stuff from Greg.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the matchups within this game really goes down

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01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 2: to the line of scrimmage and what's going on in

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01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 2: the trenches on both sides of the ball, both on

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Speaker 2: the offensive line and defensive line for both teams. That's

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Speaker 2: where it's going to start. That's what we hear from

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Speaker 2: our head coach Sean McDermott all the time. Battle is

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Speaker 2: won in the trenches.

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Speaker 1: We heard all we've heard. We've said it so much

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Speaker 1: over the course of the seat this season. In other

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Speaker 1: years where you got to win up front, you gotta

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Speaker 1: win the line of scrimmage, and we didn't win the line.

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Speaker 1: We lost because we lost the last the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: And this is this is one where you think, man,

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01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 1: they got to dig deep two backup offensive tackles. And

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Speaker 1: then you know, same thing with the Steelers. Their left

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01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 1: tackle is out at this point of the season, Week thirteen. Man,

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01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 1: it's you got to dig deep to try and try

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01:08:59,000 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 1: and win.

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01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 2: To buck up get ready for sure. And I really

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01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:05,679
Speaker 2: agree with what Sean McDermott said earlier when talking about

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01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 2: the tackle position, and yes, experience is not going to

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01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 2: be on the field as much as it would be

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01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 2: if you had your starters, but you're gonna make it

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01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:17,439
Speaker 2: up with grit. That's what I keep going back to

1352
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 2: when I'm thinking about the line play in this game.

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01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 2: It's got to be gritty, it's got to be tough.

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01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 2: You're going into the Steel City like it's gonna be

1355
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 2: cold out there. This is the time where you put

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01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 2: your fingers in the in the grass and.

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Speaker 1: You go, we don't know, because they haven't told us,

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01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,679
Speaker 1: and we don't. We're speculating everything. I kind of vander

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01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 1: Mark's probably given you might having him talk like that

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01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 1: about grit and you know, compete and all that, it

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01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 1: kind of points toward Alec Anderson. That's true.

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01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:45,839
Speaker 2: Alec is a great guy.

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Speaker 1: Kind of guy. Right. Well know, we'll find out late

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01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 1: soon enough.

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01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 2: All right, we got to take a break. We are

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Speaker 2: going to be off air on TV, but still on

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Speaker 2: the radio, so stay tuned. More coming up next on

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Speaker 2: a lot of us will be tailgating, maybe in our kitchens,

1378
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 2: but hey, Pittsburgh isn't a far drive, so maybe Bill's

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01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:41,560
Speaker 2: mafia for the holiday weekend is heading down to Pittsburgh

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01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 2: to partake in the bills in Steelers games. So from

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01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:51,719
Speaker 2: why Higgins making green chili chicken enchiladas or spicy chicken

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01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:55,719
Speaker 2: and rice soup. Either way, it's gonna get spicy vamos bills.

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01:10:56,720 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 2: I like it enchiladas, I'll sound. Are you spicy guy?

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Speaker 1: Yes? I am.

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01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 2: I like I'm middle of the pack.

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Speaker 1: I am a.

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Speaker 2: I love my medium wings, but middle of the pack

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Speaker 2: on other things.

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Speaker 1: Well, wings is a different story because they yeah, true.

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Speaker 1: But Mexican food. I love salsa, hot salsa, taco sauce,

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Speaker 1: the whole.

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01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 2: Thing, all that stuff, Charlie says, Kiyobasa and Piogis love it.

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Speaker 2: Some Polish food for Sunday Buffalo thing there and then

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Speaker 2: from Jack going to West Virginia tonight to see West

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01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:38,639
Speaker 2: Virginia play Texas Tech, bringing with us some good old

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01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 2: Wegman subs to tailgate for the Mountaineers game. Heading back

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Speaker 2: early Sunday, No time to cook. So looking like leftovers,

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01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 2: grilled cheese and tomato basil soup or going out. We'll

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Speaker 2: see how we feel.

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Speaker 1: Grilled cheese and tomato basil is a great combination, absolute classic. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so yeah, but either way go yeah if you're do

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Speaker 1: you want to and we subs Wegman Subs can amazing.

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Speaker 1: Can't be that plus headed down to West Virginia, see Texas.

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01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 2: There's some good college football games and trip there.

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01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope have fun. Drive safe.

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01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 2: Also for home games, make sure you guys hit us

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01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 2: up on X if you're going to be at a

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01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 2: Bill's home game, because Chris Brown, Steve Tasker and Wegman's

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01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 2: could make a surprise visit to your tailgate. So keep

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Speaker 2: that on your radar. For next week's game against the

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals, we're gonna go back to the phone lines

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01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 2: and get to Alex from Charlotte. Who's been hanging on Alex?

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 5: Hey, y'all?

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Speaker 7: Thanks for taking my call. Yeah, Steve, I have a

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01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 7: question for you. Before I get to that, I want

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01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 7: to say something about all this Brandon Bean slander from

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01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 7: fans and even local media.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 7: You know, I grew up during the drought, drafting these

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01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 7: these nobodies and these players who honestly should have been

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01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 7: retired and even want who retired in.

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Speaker 5: The middle of the game.

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Speaker 7: But this, this guy is built a roster that is

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01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:00,600
Speaker 7: competing every year. When you look at the defense on

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Speaker 7: paper before the season, I think we all thought, man,

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Speaker 7: this could be This could be a traditional Sean mccerbott

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01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 7: top five defense, and Steve, like he said, we'll never

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Speaker 7: know what that looks like. This offense, we you know

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01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:14,639
Speaker 7: we need a boundary X receiver. Those those guys aren't

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01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 7: aren't just around everywhere. Everybody wants him to swing for defenses.

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Speaker 7: And I'm perfectly okay with Brandon Bean saying let's take

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01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 7: a shot every year instead of leveraging our future. I'm

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Speaker 7: just I'm getting a little tired of hearing people talk

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Speaker 7: about him like he hasn't built a championship roster every

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Speaker 7: single year, and every single year we are an odds

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Speaker 7: favorite to be there. In the end, we could definitely do.

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Speaker 1: A lot worse.

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Speaker 7: Uh, Steve, my question for you being an offensive player,

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Speaker 7: one thing I have noticed about the Bills this year

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01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 7: is when the offense isn't clicking to start the game,

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Speaker 7: when they aren't in a rhythm. It seems like they

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01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 7: have a really really hard time finding a rhythm and

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Speaker 7: getting in that flow state, whereas the defense is almost

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01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:57,679
Speaker 7: able to start rough but then get into a rhythm

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Speaker 7: and settle in and and be able to troll of

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01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,640
Speaker 7: the game a little bit better. Why is it more

1448
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 7: difficult for the offense to get into a rhythm that

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01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 7: they don't start out that way as compared to a defense.

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Speaker 1: That's a good question, Thanks Alix. It's a good question,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know that I have a really solid

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01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 1: answer because it could be a number of things. And

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01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 1: when you're it's harder to I don't want to say

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01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:22,680
Speaker 1: this like it's nothing, but because it's hard to play

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01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 1: defense too. It's harder to play offense because you have

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01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 1: to have more guys doing well than you do on defense. Defense,

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01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 1: everybody can stink and the guy the quarterback throws the

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01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 1: football to makes a play, and now you think you've

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Speaker 1: got a great defense. You know, it's it's kind of

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01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 1: like that offense. None of that's happening. You got to

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01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 1: have got You got to have a bunch of guys

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Speaker 1: doing well, playing well for you to find your rhythm

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01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:47,720
Speaker 1: and maybe that's part of Maybe I just answered the

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01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 1: question for you. They haven't had enough guys clicking on

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01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 1: all cylinders enough to do well. Now, certainly, I just

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01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:57,680
Speaker 1: said it again. This team runs the ball as well

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01:14:57,800 --> 01:14:59,719
Speaker 1: or better than anybody in the NFL. That means Derek

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01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:03,640
Speaker 1: Can and Lamar Jackson, that means the Indianapolis Colts and

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01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor, that means you name it. The Bills are

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Speaker 1: running it better than anybody. With James Cook now they

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Speaker 1: stick with it, and their offensive line has been really cohesive.

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Speaker 1: That's up in the air this week, but that's what

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Speaker 1: it takes to play really good offense. You got to

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01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:24,559
Speaker 1: have so many guys clicking. It's hard. That's why it's

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01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:26,639
Speaker 1: so hard. That's why we love to see it, because

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01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 1: it looks so great when everything's clicking. You know, I

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01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:32,599
Speaker 1: went over I looked down the stats of who scored

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01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 1: touchdowns and all that stuff. There's like one team in

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01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 1: the league who has scored more touchdowns than the Bills,

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01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:40,640
Speaker 1: and I think and I can't even remember who does.

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01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 1: Maybe Seattle. No, it's it's the Colts. The Colts and

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01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 1: the Lions have forty touchdowns on this season. The Bills

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01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 1: have thirty nine and the Rams have thirty nine. The

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01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:55,680
Speaker 1: Bills are right there with the Rams, the Lions, and

1485
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 1: the Colts. For how many touchdowns they've scored this year.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they're averaging twenty eight points.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't and it's amazing that our standard as Bills

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01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 1: fans has become so high, you know, so high. Come on,

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01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 1: it's hard. It's amazing to think of where we've come

1490
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:16,679
Speaker 1: to and where Josh has put us and this offense

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01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:19,479
Speaker 1: has put us, where Joe Brady has put us with

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01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:23,720
Speaker 1: James Cook, and you think, man, you know, we don't

1493
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 1: have this over the top passing. The Bills have more

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01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 1: forty yard plus plays yep, than anybody else in the

1495
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 1: league or almost anybody else in the league. They're like

1496
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 1: top two of explosive plays. They're the top team in

1497
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 1: plus twenty yard plays. And it just feels like they

1498
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 1: can't find a rhythm. And I get it. I feel

1499
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 1: the same way. Right, it's the weirdest phenomenon out there, right.

1500
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 1: I think it's the weirdest thing about this season for

1501
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 1: the Bills. They're seven and four and they and we're

1502
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 1: like throwing our hands up going man day just they

1503
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:03,559
Speaker 1: are awful I mean, they are just awful and they're

1504
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:05,559
Speaker 1: you know, they're gonna be in the playoffs.

1505
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 2: They're seven and four and they and we just can't.

1506
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 1: But I'm i gotta tell you, I'm right there with you.

1507
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:14,760
Speaker 1: It's like this team never really feels like it has

1508
01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 1: hummed offensively, right, It just never felt like it has

1509
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:22,439
Speaker 1: really just slick, grease lightning like it has in the past.

1510
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:24,640
Speaker 1: It feels like it's a struggle. But here they are

1511
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 1: at the top of the league offensively, and of course

1512
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:32,639
Speaker 1: their defense has struggled to stop the run. They haven't

1513
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:34,640
Speaker 1: gotten turnovers in the way they got last year, and

1514
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 1: it shows in the way these games play out. It

1515
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:42,560
Speaker 1: is a strange phenomenon, and I don't know why. It

1516
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 1: looks like they have never gotten you know, well, let's

1517
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 1: face it. Aside from the first four weeks of the

1518
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 1: season when they're four to oh, you know, we were

1519
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:53,680
Speaker 1: all there, right, we were all there drinking aid. They

1520
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 1: were yeah, we were scoring. We scored forty one, then thirty,

1521
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:59,640
Speaker 1: then thirty one, then thirty one again. I mean, all right,

1522
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 1: we're you know, there's nobody.

1523
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 2: We're gonna go undefeated this year, right.

1524
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:09,639
Speaker 1: So we were all there and now not so much, right, yeah,

1525
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:16,679
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's weird. Most teams would be thrilled

1526
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:18,759
Speaker 1: to be out of rhythm the way the Bills offense

1527
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 1: has been out of rhythm and scoring twenty eight points

1528
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 1: a game. That's scoring twenty eight points a game and

1529
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 1: only scoring thirteen and nineteen and two out of their

1530
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 1: last three games, and it's forty yeah, and then they

1531
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 1: hang forty four on the bus scouring. It's I think

1532
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 1: the inconsistency is what gets us there, right yeah. And

1533
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:42,519
Speaker 1: that bespeaks a lack of rhythm, right, It bespeaks the

1534
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 1: lack of something that you can like just lean on,

1535
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 1: like we're gonna even the run game. They're running better

1536
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 1: than anybody, but you know, it just seems like once

1537
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 1: in a while, the run game evaporates. We are in

1538
01:18:55,080 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 1: a really strange point in history, and particularly in this

1539
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 1: season of Bill's history, where maybe our expectations are out

1540
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 1: of whack. Maybe we've seen this offense and Josh do

1541
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 1: things we've never seen anybody do, and when we don't

1542
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 1: see it, we think something's really really wrong. And it's

1543
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 1: probably not really wrong, but there's something not clicking. Something

1544
01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, I do know this though, this group,

1545
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 1: and maybe this is different than it has been in

1546
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 1: years past, this group still has that thing under their hood.

1547
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 1: I mean they still scored two weeks ago, they scored

1548
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 1: forty four points on a really good Tampa Bay football team.

1549
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 1: So it's in there somewhere, right, it's under the hood.

1550
01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:51,640
Speaker 1: And that's why you know there's a niche group of

1551
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 1: Bill's fans or everything. And I don't care just kid

1552
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:56,000
Speaker 1: as the playoffs, because if we get hot, nobody stops us. Right,

1553
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 1: there's that kind of thinking, we can find it at

1554
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:01,679
Speaker 1: the right time. It don't matter. None of this matters,

1555
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 1: because when we need it, we're gonna get it and

1556
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:07,720
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna roll. Maybe that's true, but it

1557
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:09,920
Speaker 1: has undermined the confidence of a lot of Bills fans

1558
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 1: in the fact that we don't see it so often

1559
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:12,240
Speaker 1: and consistently.

1560
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 2: Two wins, two losses in the last four weeks for

1561
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 2: the Bills. Last year, at this time they were in

1562
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:21,200
Speaker 2: the middle of their seven game win streak, when they

1563
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:24,599
Speaker 2: were firing on all cylinders. This year, at this time

1564
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:27,439
Speaker 2: way different. For Buffalo. It's been a lot because of

1565
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 2: the injuries. The offense has been inconsistent. I also think

1566
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:34,720
Speaker 2: it's the team trying to figure themselves out. It's a

1567
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 2: little ugly. They're churning through it all. They're trying to

1568
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 2: figure out their identity, and they are just waiting to

1569
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:43,919
Speaker 2: punch through. We have the best quarterback in the NFL,

1570
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 2: we have one of the best running backs in the NFL.

1571
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 2: We've got some defensive players who have improved this season.

1572
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 2: And I really think it's gonna happen at some point

1573
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 2: in the next few weeks where they just punch through,

1574
01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:00,759
Speaker 2: figure it out, get in their rhythm, get to the playoff.

1575
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:02,880
Speaker 1: We've got three They've got a stretch here that's gonna

1576
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 1: be really difficult. They got the Steelers this week. And

1577
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 1: and whether you like the Steelers or not, and whether

1578
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 1: you know, the Steelers are struggling at this point. I

1579
01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 1: mean they've they've lost two of their last three, three

1580
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:16,599
Speaker 1: their last five, or well four out of their last

1581
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:18,880
Speaker 1: six actually, so they're kind of they're kind of the

1582
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:21,200
Speaker 1: same thing as the Bills. So whether no matter what

1583
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:24,760
Speaker 1: you think about the Steelers in the current state of health,

1584
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:26,760
Speaker 1: the Bill is gonna be a tussle, right, It's gonna

1585
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 1: be a tough game. Then they go to the They

1586
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:30,839
Speaker 1: got the Bengals coming in here a week from Sunday,

1587
01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:33,439
Speaker 1: and the Bengals, I don't know if you saw are

1588
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:34,759
Speaker 1: back in the saddle with Joe.

1589
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 2: Burn Baltimore Ravens.

1590
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:39,680
Speaker 1: Then you've got the Patriots on the road where and

1591
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:42,679
Speaker 1: another road game where the Bills have not played well

1592
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:45,519
Speaker 1: on the road this season, and the Patriots team who've

1593
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 1: already beat them and who are in the middle of

1594
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 1: a nine game winning street. I mean they're you know,

1595
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 1: So you got that on the horizon. Then you got

1596
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:54,519
Speaker 1: maybe as good a defense as there is in the

1597
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 1: league in Cleveland, you know, come at Cleveland on the

1598
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:02,680
Speaker 1: road again. And then you've got the defending world champion Philadelphia.

1599
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:07,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a stretch Steelers, Bengals, Patriots, Brown's.

1600
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:09,040
Speaker 2: Eagles, good defenses.

1601
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:14,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. If if the Bills can run through that and

1602
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:17,560
Speaker 1: string together some wins in that, yeah, they're gonna be

1603
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 1: all right.

1604
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 3: I know.

1605
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 2: The Bengals defense hasn't been that great this season.

1606
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:25,880
Speaker 1: There's no You've got to score because their offense is

1607
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 1: going to school, all right.

1608
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:29,439
Speaker 2: Before we go to break, let's go back to the

1609
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:32,360
Speaker 2: phones to Madness and Vermont who joins us now what's up,

1610
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 2: mad Glad?

1611
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:38,600
Speaker 8: Hey, hey man, how are we doing? Real quick? What

1612
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:41,719
Speaker 8: does it look like for a second and third string

1613
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:46,640
Speaker 8: that's not getting played time? So we know how integral

1614
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:51,720
Speaker 8: Dion and Spencer are and having to lose both of

1615
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 8: these guys at the same time, they've never had to

1616
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 8: endure it, which is crazy, you know what, Like the

1617
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:02,400
Speaker 8: guys that are uh filling in for him when you're

1618
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 8: not getting real time snaps? What does that do to you?

1619
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:05,519
Speaker 5: Like?

1620
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 8: How do you prepare for this? But at the same time,

1621
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 8: you've got someone who's not injured, is on this fresh?

1622
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 8: Is that an advantage? I'll hang up and listen.

1623
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a that's a good question. Yeah, they're gonna

1624
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:19,280
Speaker 1: have fresh legs, they're gonna feel good, and they're gonna

1625
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 1: get through this game and they're gonna be able to

1626
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 1: answer the bell in the second quarter, third quarter, fourth quarter.

1627
01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 1: Where some of these you know, the Steelers guys, they've

1628
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:31,519
Speaker 1: been getting banged around for thirteen weeks, you know, it's

1629
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 1: been it's been three months, four months for them, So

1630
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:37,919
Speaker 1: they've been getting banged around and they're you know, everybody's

1631
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 1: dragging around luggage. I say luggage, I mean like a

1632
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 1: sore elbow, sore knee, sore shoulder, sore foot, twisted ankle,

1633
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 1: you know, brusted finger, whatever you call it. All these

1634
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:49,280
Speaker 1: guys are kind of dragging that stuff around with them

1635
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 1: and there's no fun. On the other hand, you got

1636
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:57,800
Speaker 1: guys like Alex Anderson, Alex Anderson, and Ryan Vandermark or

1637
01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 1: Tyland Gray Bull or Chase they're pretty much pretty much

1638
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 1: right off the shelf, feel pretty good. There is a

1639
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:12,800
Speaker 1: little something in that, yeah, a little bit. But you know,

1640
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:14,439
Speaker 1: there's two sides of that as well. As you can

1641
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:18,679
Speaker 1: say they they're gonna be rusty, I would think they're

1642
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:20,880
Speaker 1: not going to feel like, hey, this is my spot.

1643
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 1: I've dropped back here a thousand times. I know what

1644
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 1: I'm doing. Here we go. It's gonna be tough, but

1645
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 1: I know I got a plan here, right. There's a

1646
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 1: lot of unknowns. There's a lot of unknowns. Yep. And

1647
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:36,760
Speaker 1: I've said this, I've alluded to this before. One of

1648
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:39,320
Speaker 1: the reasons it's very difficult for the National Football League

1649
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:45,559
Speaker 1: to expand to more teams. There's not enough good players specifically, Yeah,

1650
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 1: there's one percent. They're hard to find, so you're not

1651
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 1: gonna have like nine quality starting offensive linemen, experienced guys,

1652
01:24:55,400 --> 01:25:01,519
Speaker 1: tough guys, knowledgeable guys hanging around. What's that going to

1653
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:02,760
Speaker 1: look like. That's a big question.

1654
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:07,479
Speaker 2: I also go back to our comments about Aaron Kromer.

1655
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:10,639
Speaker 2: You gotta believe that he has put his arms around

1656
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 2: these guys who are going to be starting on Sunday

1657
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:17,559
Speaker 2: or playing a decent amount of snaps on Sunday, making

1658
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 2: sure they're ready for this matchup. Yesterday was Thanksgiving. I

1659
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:25,559
Speaker 2: gotta believe that these young players who don't have family

1660
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:29,599
Speaker 2: members here, we're spending extra time in the building making

1661
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 2: sure that they feel ready for Sunday.

1662
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:33,360
Speaker 1: That's true. They do get a run up to this.

1663
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 1: This isn't like getting thrown in in the first quarter

1664
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:38,760
Speaker 1: after a guy gets ankles. They're taking the reps. They're

1665
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 1: watching the film. They're formulating their plan for TJ. Watt,

1666
01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 1: for high Smith, for Hayward, all these guys. They're getting

1667
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 1: a plan together. They're gonna know where their help's coming from.

1668
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 1: They're gonna have, you know, they're gonna have some of them.

1669
01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 1: They're gonna be out there alone, so that will give

1670
01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:55,760
Speaker 1: them a chance to be their best. We'll see how

1671
01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:56,439
Speaker 1: it works and.

1672
01:25:56,680 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 2: Connor McGovern, David Edwards, and Osyrus Torrance are looking at

1673
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:03,040
Speaker 2: those guys and they're saying, hey, we got you this week.

1674
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:06,320
Speaker 2: We are gonna help you along in every single play

1675
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 2: of this game. We're gonna take a break. But when

1676
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:11,680
Speaker 2: we return, give it into the Friday fan mail bag.

1677
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 2: As we close things up here on One Bill's Live,

1678
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:30,679
Speaker 2: we're presented by Clyde Health on Buffalo Bills Radio sign

1679
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 2: Provision to victory presented by Atwall eye Care, the official

1680
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 2: eye care provider of the Buffalo Bills. My vision to

1681
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:39,720
Speaker 2: victory is the Bills defense needs to grab a couple

1682
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:42,599
Speaker 2: of takeaways. I believe the offense needs a couple extra

1683
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 2: possessions in this one, given the fact that they're without

1684
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:48,519
Speaker 2: their two starting tackles. So I think you need a

1685
01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 2: couple more possessions to score points.

1686
01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:52,040
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I agree with you, Maddie. I think

1687
01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a rock fight, and I think

1688
01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:58,000
Speaker 1: the team that wins the turnover battle will win the game.

1689
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:02,360
Speaker 1: That's you got to protect the football. I hate to

1690
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:06,120
Speaker 1: say go conservative, but I do think the Bills can

1691
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:08,760
Speaker 1: have as much offensive success as they need to to

1692
01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 1: win a game like that with their running game and

1693
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:13,479
Speaker 1: their ability to throw the football and Josh extend in

1694
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:16,400
Speaker 1: some plays. I don't think, I think any question that

1695
01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:19,439
Speaker 1: if the Bills don't help the Steelers, I don't think

1696
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:21,720
Speaker 1: the Steelers can generate enough offense to beat them.

1697
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:25,599
Speaker 2: Let's go to our Friday fan mail bag quickly from Lauren.

1698
01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 2: Are you surprised the Bills are bringing in an older

1699
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 2: shack loss and to the practice squad instead of stealing

1700
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 2: a defensive end prospect from someone else's practice squad to

1701
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:36,840
Speaker 2: put on the active roster. Given lack of production of

1702
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:39,719
Speaker 2: Javon Solomon, seems worth the risks to boost our pass

1703
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:40,479
Speaker 2: rush rotation.

1704
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:44,080
Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, Javon Solomon's lack of pass rush

1705
01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:46,599
Speaker 1: and lack of production probably because he's on the team,

1706
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:49,439
Speaker 1: he's playing special teams. He can run, he can move,

1707
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:52,479
Speaker 1: He's a really good athlete and that's what his role

1708
01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:54,479
Speaker 1: is now. They do put him in and he helped

1709
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:56,960
Speaker 1: them in some games in the defensive line. In fact,

1710
01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:58,720
Speaker 1: he've got moved down to defensive tackle in one of

1711
01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:01,920
Speaker 1: those games where they were dropping eyes. But I think

1712
01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:03,920
Speaker 1: they like Javon Solomon, what he brings to the team

1713
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 1: and his contribution. Whether it's on d line or not.

1714
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:08,719
Speaker 1: And the reason I think they bring guys like Shack

1715
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:10,760
Speaker 1: Lawson in. I think this is one of those things

1716
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:13,760
Speaker 1: where they need guys that in a pinch, and they've

1717
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:16,840
Speaker 1: they've felt the pinch this year. They can plug in.

1718
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:20,719
Speaker 1: They need guys that know what's going on, know the culture,

1719
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:24,440
Speaker 1: know the players, know the verbiage, and can be reintroduced

1720
01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 1: really quickly so that they can play. They're not bringing

1721
01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:30,160
Speaker 1: these guys in to get them ready and to have

1722
01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:33,280
Speaker 1: them develop them or they need them now. That's why

1723
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:35,479
Speaker 1: you get Yeah, that's why you get you know, That's

1724
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:38,920
Speaker 1: why you get Shaq Hack Laws, and that's why you

1725
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:41,400
Speaker 1: get the old guys AJ Klein, That's why Jordan Poorlier

1726
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:43,439
Speaker 1: got plugging. That's why all these old guys get brought in.

1727
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:47,320
Speaker 1: They want them on the field now. They can't. It's

1728
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:49,800
Speaker 1: not to develop them. They need help now, and that

1729
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:52,760
Speaker 1: means starting from the neck up. They need to know

1730
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:56,000
Speaker 1: the words, the verbiage, the plays. They need some familiarity

1731
01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:56,759
Speaker 1: with the system.

1732
01:28:57,080 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 2: Lawson is also a good run defender. That's something that

1733
01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:01,760
Speaker 2: Buffalo hasn't been great at this season. He could bring

1734
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:04,080
Speaker 2: a little bit of oomph to that position group if

1735
01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:07,559
Speaker 2: he gets activated for a game. Catherine asks if they

1736
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 2: end up playing Ryan Vandermark and Tyland Grabile at tackle, well,

1737
01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:14,080
Speaker 2: they use tight ends or Anderson to chip defenders before

1738
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 2: they run their routes.

1739
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:18,240
Speaker 1: That serious. Yes, they won't give anything all the time,

1740
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 1: but they will pick their spots. Either will be a

1741
01:29:20,479 --> 01:29:24,360
Speaker 1: tight end or running back or an extra offensive lineman. Yeah,

1742
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:26,920
Speaker 1: they'll help those tackles as much as they can or

1743
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:29,360
Speaker 1: as much as they feel they need to to get

1744
01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:31,400
Speaker 1: a going. Now, certainly there's gonna be some place where

1745
01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:33,320
Speaker 1: they won't help them, but that's because the plan will

1746
01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:35,360
Speaker 1: be that the ball's not gonna be there. You know,

1747
01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:37,599
Speaker 1: the ball's going to be out before they need help.

1748
01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:40,360
Speaker 1: So all that stuff is on the table. They're gonna

1749
01:29:40,360 --> 01:29:41,640
Speaker 1: have a plan A. They're gonna have a plan B.

1750
01:29:41,680 --> 01:29:44,760
Speaker 1: They're gonna have a plan C. And if they need

1751
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:49,080
Speaker 1: a plan D, they might be falling on their sword

1752
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:49,840
Speaker 1: by that time.

1753
01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:52,479
Speaker 2: All right, to look forward to the game and the

1754
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:56,400
Speaker 2: trenches on Sunday against the Pittsburgh Steelers. It should be

1755
01:29:56,439 --> 01:29:58,600
Speaker 2: a good one. We have our postgame show after that

1756
01:29:58,680 --> 01:30:00,200
Speaker 2: you can look forward to. We want to thank for

1757
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 2: tuning in two one Bills Live, have a great Black Friday.

1758
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:04,360
Speaker 2: Everybody will see you on Monday.