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Speaker 1: Welcome to Forties and Free Agents. I'm Greg Rosenthal here

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Speaker 1: with Daniel Jeremiah. I am lucky to have the most

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Speaker 1: wanted man who was in Indianapolis and just got back

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Speaker 1: in the first, you know, big show he's doing back

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Speaker 1: is his favorite show, Forties and Free Agency.

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Speaker 2: I'm you doing, buddy.

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Speaker 3: I still doesn't get old seeing the little flipping the

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Speaker 3: names on the screen there due to our little wager

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Speaker 3: that we had from the regular season.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it does say with Daniel Jeremiah and Greg Rosenthal.

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Speaker 1: I think I think that's appropriate after the big week

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Speaker 1: that you had.

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Speaker 4: DJ is so big in Indianapolis. He didn't even speak

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Speaker 4: to me.

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Speaker 1: We tried to book him for for NFL Daily or

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Speaker 1: for this show, and we actually have some photos here

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Speaker 1: if you happen to watch it on YouTube or the

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Speaker 1: NFL channel. The crowd that was at the Daniel Jeremiah

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Speaker 1: press conference was bigger than any player I think all

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Speaker 1: week long. Like I tried to get a question in uh,

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Speaker 1: couldn't happen. Tried to work it through PR to get

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Speaker 1: DJ as a guest. No, he said, no, he's doing serious.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't want to talk to you. And I saw

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Speaker 1: this other shot of you at the podium too, where

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Speaker 1: it's like DJ looks angry? Did some did someone ask

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Speaker 1: you like a bad question or something? You're just pretending

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Speaker 1: to be the GM. You're the man in indian Hell.

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Speaker 2: Oh I got I got trust me.

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Speaker 3: I got texts from gms after, like this stuff started

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Speaker 3: circulating on social media and it was.

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Speaker 2: Like, oh, really, we've got media doing.

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Speaker 3: Press conferences getting questions from media? Is that where we

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Speaker 3: are right now? So I got busted pretty good on

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Speaker 3: all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: I mean a massive press conference. You should push back.

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Speaker 1: I'm old enough to remember DJ Mayock used to do

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Speaker 1: the same thing. Yeah, so I don't know if that's

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Speaker 1: a first for you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have not. I have not done.

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Speaker 3: Mayok used to do it like after the quarterbacks used

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Speaker 3: to go earlier, so the quarterbacks were thrown.

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Speaker 2: I think it was after that he would do is.

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Speaker 1: But it was at a podium. It was at a

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Speaker 1: podium people asking Mayak questions. So you can push back

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Speaker 1: and there you go, and who knows. It's it's nice

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Speaker 1: we got to book you for this show.

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Speaker 4: I didn't get you in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 2: No, But do you want to tell the story real

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Speaker 2: quick off?

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Speaker 3: How I got you when you were walking with Tyson

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Speaker 3: Harman and all your buddies.

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Speaker 2: We're walking, so don't tell the story.

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Speaker 3: So we're I'm getting ushered to go to the next

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Speaker 3: thing I got to go to, and they kind of

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Speaker 3: running me through it and then I see Greg. I

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Speaker 3: haven't seen him, you know, the whole time, and he's

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Speaker 3: with all of his guys and chest out and I stop.

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Speaker 3: I go, hey, Greg, well did I tell you what

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Speaker 3: that personnel guy told me about you in the in

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Speaker 3: the podcast on forties of three inches?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 3: I go, yeah, because nobody's told me anything. And then

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Speaker 3: I just kept walking and just watched the air kind

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Speaker 3: of come out of your lungs. And then it was

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Speaker 3: a highlight of my day that day. As I was

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Speaker 3: bustling around between the interviews.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm glad I could give that to you.

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Speaker 1: Twenty seconds with me in Indianapolis was your best twenty seconds.

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Speaker 1: And I did hear from people from literally multiple teams

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Speaker 1: in Indianapolis that they like listening to our show. So

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Speaker 1: we're going to try to give him a good one.

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Speaker 1: Here's what we're going to do. We're kind of gonna

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Speaker 1: give a one on one. We are on the doorstep

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Speaker 1: of free agency. We're taping this on Tuesday. It's going

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Speaker 1: to come out of the franchise.

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Speaker 2: Tags are flying around as we're Franchise tag Day.

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Speaker 1: Brice Hall has been has been tagged, and we're going

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Speaker 1: to kind of give the one oh one of like

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Speaker 1: where we're at for all the different free agency positions,

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Speaker 1: but also based on what we learned in Indianapolis in

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Speaker 4: And I've come to a thought about the quarterbacks. We'll

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Speaker 1: That actually there are a lot of quarterbacks of it.

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Speaker 1: I know people don't think there are a lot of quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: But there's a lot of them.

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Speaker 1: And the way I thought about it, and here's my theory,

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Speaker 1: here are the amount of quarterbacks I would rather have

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Speaker 1: there's more interest in than people expected. Aaron Rodgers, Marcus Mariota, Wowee,

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, Tuatungua Bailoa, Tanner McKee. Now we get a

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Speaker 1: NFL looks at it, I just listed fifteen guys that like,

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Speaker 1: only about seven or eight teams that are looking for starters.

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Speaker 1: So between all those guys, like that's you get that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's fair, and I think it's you know, man,

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Speaker 3: like the buzziest name, you know, the biggest conversations. I

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Speaker 3: should say it's even more media driven than team driven.

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Speaker 3: But like the Ty Simpson conversation is everywhere. So I

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Speaker 3: but I went through you as we're recording this. He's

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Speaker 3: my top thirty two guys for this draft. I think

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Speaker 3: he's the second round pick. But I'm like going through, Okay,

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Speaker 3: So I'm going through it and I'm like, Okay, I

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Speaker 3: don't see him as a fit in Cleveland. I do

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Speaker 3: think Cleveland's gonna roll with with Watson and see what

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Speaker 3: got to believe three ones next year. So I got

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Speaker 3: they're either going to be in position to take a

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Speaker 3: like a fit for them. The Steelers, I don't see

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Speaker 3: I just don't see that happen.

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Speaker 2: They're out, So then where are the fits?

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Speaker 3: The Rams are one that's often discussed, but I think

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Speaker 3: the Rams are in go for it mode right now.

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Speaker 3: They're right on the cusp of a Super Bowl. That

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Speaker 3: doesn't feel like that would be a move when you

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Speaker 3: don't know how much long longer you have Stafford, how

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Speaker 3: much longer is McVeigh going to stay. You know, this

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Speaker 3: it's something we're planning for the future. So take them

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Speaker 3: out of the mix. So I came up with two teams. Okay,

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Speaker 3: and the two teams that came up first. Foremost for

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Speaker 3: an NFC West quarterback. We've seen purty Be, you know,

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Speaker 3: factor endorse all those things to me that that one

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Speaker 3: bottom of round one. So the Arizona is the first

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, okay, he's kind of in that family

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Speaker 3: It would be your trading back or you know, whatever

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I just didn't get the sense of and you tell

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Speaker 3: it is, it's very early on in his time there,

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Speaker 4: That's a leaky ship and it's not positive.

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Speaker 1: I can't remember a situation where you're hearing that a

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Speaker 4: I said it on NFL Daily.

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Speaker 1: I think he has a better chance of being on

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Speaker 1: someone else's roster than being their Week one starter. I

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Speaker 1: think the most likely outcome is he's on their roster

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Speaker 1: and he's not the starter. But I could see in

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Speaker 1: a world where they took Ty Simpson, that they flipped

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Speaker 3: I mean I realized, I realize how it sounds crazy,

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Speaker 3: like when you just look at they have just taken

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Speaker 3: a quarterback. There's similarities between the two of them. But

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Speaker 3: I also go, Okay, it's kind of you know, Quessi's out,

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Speaker 3: and then it's not like you're saying, oh, this was

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Speaker 3: his pick and Kevin didn't have any impact on it.

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Speaker 3: Obviously he had to have some influence there as the

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Speaker 3: head coach and someone who develops a quarterback position. But

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying it kind of makes it a little

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Speaker 3: cleaner of like, Okay, GM's gone. Quarterback that was taken

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Speaker 3: on his watch, it's gone. We're going to start new here.

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Speaker 3: I think that finding a veteran because the team's ready

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Speaker 3: to win right now makes makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 2: But I'm just I was scrambling trying to.

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Speaker 3: Find a home for that guy, and I I struggle

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Speaker 3: to come up with it, which.

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Speaker 1: Makes me think you don't have to trade up for

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Speaker 4: It's not going to be JJ. And that's where you

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Speaker 1: There's a little more interest in Gino than I would

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Speaker 4: And then you know that you do hear some Kyler

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Speaker 1: Wanted to throw that by you because I'm not sure

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Speaker 3: Who evoke the strongest opinions on the veteran market when

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Speaker 1: Oh, the strong opinions like negative and or positive.

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Speaker 1: Probably Willis who because I just got so many people

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Speaker 3: You, that's the one. That's the one there is. There

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Speaker 1: And it does worry me. I don't I don't know,

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Speaker 4: But either way, I.

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Speaker 1: And it is interesting all these teams, the Falcons, specifically

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Speaker 4: I know Brees Hall is now off the market.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not a deep group in the draft. So

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Speaker 3: the two Notre Dame kids, whereas advertised, loves, you know,

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Speaker 3: that's like Mike Washington junior from Arkansas, who he knew

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and like the David Montgomery trade to the Texas

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Speaker 4: Good player, Well, I think he'll do well. Everyone everyone

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Speaker 1: Let's just go yeah right there, because you said it's

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Speaker 1: Jermaine iluminor Rashid Walker, Brayden Smith are the three names

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Speaker 1: There aren't many tackles out there in free agency, and

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Speaker 3: There's seven so when you look at it, I think

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Speaker 1: Those guys are under That's who's underpaid is the great

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Speaker 4: It's just such a value add.

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Speaker 2: It's hard, it's hard to.

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Speaker 3: There's like I saw a lot of nice things about him,

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 1: he was getting it.

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Speaker 3: I thought last week Sursery got better as the year

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Speaker 3: went on.

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Speaker 1: And Ingram played well for them, and I thought Titus

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Speaker 1: Howard was okay. I thought last year they did kind

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Speaker 1: of what we asked, can you just have a normal

443
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Speaker 1: offensive line? And for much of the season they were

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Speaker 1: probably in the sixteen to twenty four or something.

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Speaker 4: They weren't.

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Speaker 1: They weren't the worst group in the league anymore. But

447
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Speaker 1: for a second straight off season, they just wave goodbye

448
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Speaker 1: to their best player. But so long, layer me tons

449
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Speaker 1: of last year. So long Titus hour this year in Ingram.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they're gearing up to give him a big contract.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna tell you right now, I

452
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Speaker 3: will be shocked if when we reconvene after free agency,

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Speaker 3: if they haven't gone top of the market shopping along

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Speaker 3: the interior.

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Speaker 1: And it might be a it might be a trade.

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Speaker 1: And okay, so some of the top of the market.

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Speaker 1: I mentioned a couple of them, but Isaac, Sayamalu, there

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Speaker 1: are numbers.

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Speaker 4: Like you said, it's easier to find.

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Speaker 1: Caid Mays is a center for the Panthers, who I

461
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Speaker 1: think is going to get a bigger contract than people expected.

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Speaker 1: Sean Ryan's played for the Packers Zeitler. So there are guys.

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Speaker 1: There are guys out there.

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Speaker 3: I think those bills guys. I think those bills guys

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Speaker 3: make sense there too.

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Speaker 1: I think they make a lot of sense. Let's let's

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Speaker 1: do the rest of offense before we take a break.

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Speaker 1: Wide receiver is very top heavy, not a lot of depth.

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Speaker 1: And this is where it seems to me in most years, actually,

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Speaker 1: I think free agents have more a good wide receivers available.

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Speaker 1: And you have Romeo Dobson and Wandol Robinson who. I

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Speaker 1: think teams will give like solid contracts to guys who

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Speaker 1: will play. Mike Evans will see what he gets. The

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Speaker 1: Rachid Shaheed market is quiet out there.

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Speaker 4: I have a heart.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea what he's going to get, but

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Speaker 1: I do wonder it seems like this draft class is

478
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Speaker 1: just deeper. It's actually a position where you can find

479
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Speaker 1: guys to play right away versus the free agency where

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Speaker 1: the money doesn't quite add up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think because we're going to see the

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Speaker 3: offensive lineman dominate the first round, like who's going to

483
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Speaker 3: get punished because of that? You know, Dresher's deep, but

484
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Speaker 3: I still think the ddressers go. I think the benefactor

485
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Speaker 3: is going to be teams wanting wide receivers in the

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Speaker 3: second round. I think in second, third round, Day two,

487
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Speaker 3: here's a there is a plethora of quality wide outs,

488
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Speaker 3: all different shapes and sizes of skill sets. It's like

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Speaker 3: discount shopping. So I think, you know the fact that

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Speaker 3: we don't necessarily have a deep group in free agency,

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Speaker 3: that they can get that problem solved and to go

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Speaker 3: back to the Texans real quick. I almost wonder if

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Speaker 3: they take the approach with the interior offensive line potentially

494
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Speaker 3: that they took with receiver last year, doubled up on

495
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Speaker 3: those receipts, those Iowa State receivers in the second round

496
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Speaker 3: or the second day. Maybe they use that same approach

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Speaker 3: with a pretty good interior offensive line group.

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Speaker 4: Ooh, but just do the double up on the Bills.

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Speaker 1: We threw out that idea for the Raiders, but they

500
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Speaker 1: should just import the Bills offensive line. They need both

501
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Speaker 1: of those spots, and like they have all the cap

502
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Speaker 1: space in the world. I like that because it's also

503
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Speaker 1: a position where like who would you rather have a

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Speaker 1: second or third round pick, even just to play Week one,

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Speaker 1: or let's say Johan Dotson or Marquise Brown or Kurt Like.

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Speaker 4: It's a reasonable discussion.

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Speaker 1: There's some guys in the middle, Juwan Jennings, you know,

508
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Speaker 1: could end up in Tennessee with his old coach, or

509
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Speaker 1: you know, there'll be guys who signed decent condos. But

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Speaker 1: it's not great tight ends Pretty awesome, though, remember when

511
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Speaker 1: tight ends were supposed to take forever to develop at

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Speaker 1: the NFL level. I am curious to ask you that,

513
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Speaker 1: like they've they've had quick impacts lately, and I don't

514
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Speaker 1: know how you think that could impact you know, Kenya

515
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Speaker 1: and Sadeek or the rest of this class, because it's

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Speaker 1: a really good free agent class. At tight end, I

517
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Speaker 1: think maybe the strongest position pound for pound.

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Speaker 3: Well, we had one of the best tight end groups

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Speaker 3: we've ever had last year and it was you know,

520
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Speaker 3: we talked about it in the run up to the draft.

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Speaker 3: There's nobody in this draft that approaches the top two guys, even.

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Speaker 1: The class before though, those guys came in and they

523
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Speaker 1: putted right away Laporta, and you know they made a difference.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the higher end of that class is

525
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Speaker 3: the last two classes is better than this class. So

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Speaker 3: there's Sadik, who's kind of an interesting guy because he

527
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Speaker 3: a little bit undersized but super dynamic. He'll go in

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Speaker 3: the first round, and then after that I think you

529
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Speaker 3: maybe you could see a pause in the second round

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Speaker 3: and maybe we start seeing more third, fourth, fifth round guys.

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Speaker 3: So I don't think the impact we'll see will match

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Speaker 3: what we saw with Levln and Warren and my guy

533
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Speaker 3: from Bowling Green to the to the Browns last year,

534
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Speaker 3: Haill Fannin, who was a really really good player. So

535
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Speaker 3: don't I don't see that immediate impact of this group.

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Speaker 3: But in terms of your point, like the ability for

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Speaker 3: these guys to get on the field. Man, Yeah, I

538
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 3: mean there are a lot of these NFL teams are

539
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 3: flexing them out. They're doing a lot of the same

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Speaker 3: stuff that they did in college.

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Speaker 1: And way more to tight end, even three tight end sets.

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Speaker 1: And so that's that's one of the reasons why I

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Speaker 1: think you're gonna see money flying at tight end. I

544
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Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna be monster contracts, but just teams

545
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Speaker 1: picking these guys kits.

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Speaker 4: Is gone now.

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Speaker 1: But after that you have Isaiah Likely, you have Kada

548
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Speaker 1: and who I think is a good player. You have

549
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Speaker 1: godd It. You mentioned, you have Chigo kon Quo. Travis

550
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Speaker 1: Kelcey does look like he's going to come back to

551
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs, which which kind of crosses off the Chiefs

552
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Speaker 1: as probably a big time tight end team. Charlie Kohler

553
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Speaker 1: is a guy I was surprised to hear. I think

554
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Speaker 1: teams do like him as like a second blocking tight end.

555
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Speaker 1: It's it's tough to find those guys. And then like

556
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Speaker 1: there's even depth like in Joco I haven't mentioned yet

557
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 1: is a good player. Darren Waller looks shockingly good when

558
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Speaker 1: he came back last year.

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Speaker 4: I think he'll have a place some some Sean McVay.

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Speaker 1: Tree is gonna sign Tyler Higbee to be there tight

561
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Speaker 1: end too, and like be really happy with it. And

562
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Speaker 1: so these are guys that are all going to play

563
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Speaker 1: get varying levels of contract, but most of those first

564
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Speaker 1: guys like Oconco and like like like those guys are

565
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Speaker 1: going to be playing forty to fifty.

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Speaker 4: Stumps a game and getting good contracts in for you.

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Speaker 2: No, that's a good group.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is kind of interesting how it kind of

569
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Speaker 3: leans draft or free agency with most of these positions.

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Speaker 3: So I'll lean towards free agency with that one.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's the offense. Let's take a break, we'll

572
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Speaker 1: come back and we'll we'll talk defense back on forties

573
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Speaker 1: and free agents. You know, unlike Rich Eyes, DJ doesn't

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Speaker 1: get that that flight right as the show he got out, Man,

575
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Speaker 1: you didn't even get home until Monday evening, and here

576
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Speaker 1: you are back grinding Tuesday morning. Like what what is

577
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Speaker 1: a DJ post combine? And like do you do anything

578
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 1: to celebrate what what goes on?

579
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Speaker 2: Not yet.

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Speaker 3: We'll do a couple of days of shows here and

581
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Speaker 3: then uh, I got to work through Wednesday, Thursday. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Friday will be my That'll be my maybe maybe maybe

583
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Speaker 3: go hit a golf ball on Friday or something. Get outside,

584
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Speaker 3: see the sun a little bit. It's been uh been indoors,

585
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Speaker 3: so I got to get out.

586
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Speaker 4: We got a little World Baseball class that coming.

587
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Speaker 2: Oh that's is that starting?

588
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Speaker 4: That starts Friday?

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Speaker 3: You know, yeah, yeah, I'll probably watching. I'll be watching

590
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Speaker 3: a lot of that.

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Speaker 2: I love.

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Speaker 3: Side note, people are like the dr team, everybody's super

593
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 3: excited about.

594
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Speaker 2: It's like Tatis Machado, Juan Soto.

595
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Speaker 3: I'm like, how did that team have that pottery team

596
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 3: not make the playoffs in twenty twenty three?

597
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Speaker 2: I still don't get that.

598
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Speaker 4: Yes, you're the only one that's that's still wondering about it.

599
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 4: I guess you and the rest of the Padres.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Blake Snell won the cy Young that year,

601
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Speaker 3: still make the playoffs, make thatchse.

602
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Speaker 4: Let's talk let's talk edge.

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Speaker 1: So you mentioned deep class, and it's maybe the deepest

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Speaker 1: class in free agency too, whereas you it actually almost

605
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Speaker 1: looks like maybe it mirrors it in terms of the draft,

606
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Speaker 1: where you have the top shelf guys Hendrixon and Mafe

607
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 1: and Jalen Phillips and Dafe Oway. Okay, we got some,

608
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Speaker 1: you know, high price guys, but then you got the

609
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Speaker 1: mercenaries like Bosa and mac Hassan Reddick, There's Cam Jordan,

610
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: a lot of those types of guys, and you have

611
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Speaker 1: some good up and comers like Joseph Asai kind of

612
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Speaker 1: in the middle of his of his you know, I

613
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: heard Arnold Evoketti might get a pretty good contract, aj

614
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Speaker 1: Ep Panessa, Calebon Chason like you got to.

615
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Speaker 4: You got different flavors, and.

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Speaker 1: Then you can just pick out like eight more solid

617
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Speaker 1: veterans that at least can play for you. So I

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Speaker 1: do think it's a position where people aren't going to

619
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Speaker 1: be crossing off edge, but they're gonna be at least

620
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Speaker 1: feeling like we don't have to take them in the

621
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Speaker 1: draft because we can get them in free agency.

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Speaker 3: I'm curious to see where the like the middle tier

623
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Speaker 3: market is because I think the the the Seahawks and

624
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Speaker 3: the Eagles we've talked about at a bunch is just

625
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Speaker 3: the number of guys. So instead of saying I want

626
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Speaker 3: one twenty five million dollar player, maybe I'm gonna go

627
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Speaker 3: try and get to eleven million dollar players, twelve million

628
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 3: dollars players. So I think people will be really excited

629
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Speaker 3: about that group that you mentioned in kind of that

630
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 3: lower that middle tier group of guys, right.

631
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Speaker 4: But then then they end up not being that big

632
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Speaker 4: of a bargain.

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00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, some names that even I didn't say, Kingsley

634
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: and Igbari, I think we'll get an okay contract and

635
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: then you have like the the older guys like alkohed

636
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: Mohammed or Kyle van Noy, who yeah, it's probably a

637
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: one year contract, but they put up good production snaps,

638
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 1: good snaps last year. And like in the draft, did

639
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: this group kind of play to type when when you

640
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: saw him on the field, like.

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00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was good.

642
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,479
Speaker 3: I mean the top guys were the top guys. I mean,

643
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 3: obviously Ruben Bain's arm length was a big discussion, but

644
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 3: I mean everybody knew he had shorter arms coming into it,

645
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 3: so I mean it's not like it was this shocking

646
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Speaker 3: revelation that he had short arms. Same with cash as

647
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Speaker 3: how I think how maybe gets punished a little more,

648
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 3: he could slide, you know, maybe he slides out of

649
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 3: the first round at A and M. But there's there's

650
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Speaker 3: a lot of depth there, so it's a it's a

651
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 3: really solid group.

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Speaker 1: I thought like when they when the Titans traded for

653
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: Jamine Johnson, people are and people were like, well, then,

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Speaker 1: you know, then they don't have to necessarily draft an

655
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Speaker 1: edge at the top of the draft. And I'm thinking,

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00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 1: Jamie Johnson can't be impacting your number four overall pick.

657
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 1: In fact, they could sign someone else in free agency.

658
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 1: Maybe it's not the top of the market, but it's

659
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: it's one of those guys we mentioned as a solid

660
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 1: starter type of player, and even then that shouldn't affect

661
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: to me what you do at number four overall.

662
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 3: I mean Saul as a defensive guy. He's seen with

663
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 3: when when his Jets defense was really good, they had

664
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 3: a lot of depth up front on that group. He's

665
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 3: seen inside the division with Seattle and with the Rams,

666
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 3: you know, and he saw what happened when his death

667
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 3: depth was depleted last year with injuries. So they want

668
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 3: waves of guys. That's a nice middle tier guy. They're

669
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 3: going to continue to keep going at it and keep

670
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 3: going at.

671
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: It exactly when you have when you have a pick

672
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 1: that high, you you want to get the potential of

673
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: a guy that that.

674
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 4: One day is getting that huge contract.

675
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: Not a free agency but from your own team, and

676
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: these are more middle tier type of guy defensive tackle.

677
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: It's there's not many, and it it seems like, you know,

678
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: I did, I remember I watched. I watched like every

679
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: second of the defensive tackle.

680
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 2: Nice.

681
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 4: You know, you guys did a good job, you know,

682
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 4: kicking that off.

683
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: It's not a flashy class, but it feels like in

684
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: free agency there's just like guy like Jonathan Franklin. Myers

685
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: is an interesting guy who will get paid good money,

686
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: and after that you're just looking at kind of guys

687
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: who can fill gaps. I don't think a lot of

688
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: defensive tackles in free agency that teams are excited about.

689
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: It seems like it's probably pick your flavor in the draft, Like.

690
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I like the day too.

691
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 3: I mean, like Banks is the one that everybody's kind

692
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 3: of buzzing about because he's six six and changed three

693
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty seven pounds. He ran well, but he

694
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 3: only played a couple of games this year. His tape

695
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 3: is a roller coaster ride. He goes to the Senior Bowl.

696
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 3: There's the flashes, but then he disappeared, Like that's the

697
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 3: profile of a boombus. Second round pick, and there's people

698
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 3: talking about him going up there in like the top fifteen.

699
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 2: I can't. I can't get there on that one. I

700
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 2: just can't.

701
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 3: There's too many other solid players with you know, higher floors.

702
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 3: To me, this this Detackle group lacks, you know, the

703
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 3: star power. I think there are guys, there's a handful

704
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 3: five or six of them that are Day two picks

705
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 3: that I think will be good players.

706
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 2: But there's nobody in there that I.

707
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 3: Think is a top fifteen even a top twenty player

708
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 3: in this draft.

709
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: And yeah, there's the equivalent of kind of a Day

710
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: two free agency pick, Like there's a lot of DJ

711
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,719
Speaker 1: Reid or Kalais Campbell on Yamada, Draymont jo and Sheldon Rangins.

712
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: What this group lacks, though, is what you were talking about,

713
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: kind of that, you know, the second tier of like

714
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: guys who are coming off their first contract.

715
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,719
Speaker 4: There was almost none of that. I thought it was telling, Oh,

716
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 4: go ahead.

717
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:52,719
Speaker 3: I was going to say, real quick, you know who

718
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 3: we should give some credit with looking at this group

719
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 3: free agency in the draft. Let's give the much maligned

720
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 3: Dallas cow Boys some credit. There is nobody in free

721
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 3: agency of the draft that comes anywhere close to the

722
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 3: talent that Quentinn Williams possesses. You know, they were able

723
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 3: to bring in last year. Now they've got other things

724
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 3: they need to fill in. And I know Micah Parsons

725
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 3: that's a tough one to replace. But I think that

726
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 3: if you look at but I'm just going to give

727
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 3: you the little Cowboys positivity here, which is not popular.

728
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 3: But if we've talked about this and the waves of

729
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 3: pass rushers, and you think about the last two Super

730
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 3: Bowl teams didn't have anybody with double digit sacks, Like

731
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 3: they found one of the hardest pieces to find, which

732
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 3: is the defensive tackle. Now, can they build not a

733
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 3: Micah Parsons level player, but they can they build up

734
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 3: the waves of players to be able to roll through there.

735
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 3: And who's their defensive coordinator? Parker where he come from

736
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 3: came from the Eagles where they appreciate the importance of

737
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 3: that depth.

738
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think they could be an interesting team.

739
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: On Jalen Phillips, who haven't heard a lot about, but

740
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: you're Jerry Jones. They do this every year, say like, oh,

741
00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: we're going to spend this year, this is the year

742
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: we're going to spend.

743
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 3: That one makes a lot of sense for impact familiarity.

744
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 3: You plug you knows this is plugger Man, and you

745
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 3: have proof of concept to how he plays there. He

746
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 3: played great with the Eagles.

747
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: And they have uh Os de Gazoua in the middle.

748
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: They have Kenny Clark still, although I'm not.

749
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 3: That might be the that's the one. If you're gonna

750
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 3: tell me the free agent pairing that makes the most sense.

751
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 2: You take it.

752
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 3: You rob a division rival, You already have a coach,

753
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 3: so you know he fits the scheme. They know him

754
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 3: really well. He's a young, ascending player, they have room,

755
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 3: they have money I need at the position. Like that

756
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 3: just makes way too much sense.

757
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 2: Greg, I like it.

758
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: Let's go to linebacker, where suddenly off ball linebackers are back.

759
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 4: Not only did I I.

760
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: Think uh the the position there was there was some improvement,

761
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: including like Devin Lloyd's at the top of my list,

762
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: But I think this is a nice group in free agency,

763
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: and it really seems like it's a great group in

764
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: the draft, which I don't know if that that's not

765
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: gonna help each other because I think this this is

766
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: kind of the equivalent to running back or tight end,

767
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: where it at least in free agency on the defensive side,

768
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: I would say it's probably the deepest position along with edge.

769
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say this group has helped themselves the

770
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 3: most from when the season ended to now, Like you

771
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 3: saw seniable performances that elevated guys. You saw combine where

772
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 3: they ran extremely fast, but not even just that, the

773
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 3: field workouts were excellent. They caught the ball as well

774
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 3: as any linebacker group that I can remember. I think

775
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 3: it's a loaded group that obviously styles is going to

776
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 3: go all the way up there in the top ten.

777
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 3: And however you use Rvel Reese, I think on the edge,

778
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 3: some people would leave him off the ball. But those

779
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 3: are two premier, premier guys, and then there's a whole

780
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 3: host of guys I think your second round, third round,

781
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 3: like really really solid players.

782
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think that's going to help.

783
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: Like Devin Lloyd, who's He's another guy you mentioned who

784
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: did you get the most reaction for on at quarterback,

785
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: it was Moleiku Willis. Devin Lloyd was kind of that

786
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: guy for me at linebacker where not everyone liked him

787
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: as much as I did. You mentioned too on the show,

788
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: but between him, Nikobe Dean, Kayden Ellis Is a good

789
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: veteran who's going to get some money. Leo Chanell is

790
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: an interesting guy, kay Walker. There's opinions all over the

791
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: place and then a ton of just veteran players to

792
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: Mario Davis and Alex Angeloni.

793
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 4: I think he'll do okay.

794
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: Quincy Williams is out there, Alex Singleton, Eric Wilson, like,

795
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: there's just players in depth there where you can kind

796
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: of fill holes.

797
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 3: Of all those guys, the name that I heard the

798
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 3: most was Leo Chanal, just because he's a unique player

799
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 3: men's skill set. He's a name that came up and

800
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 3: that was definitely. I think he's going to do well

801
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 3: in free agency.

802
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,919
Speaker 1: I wonder about him because he played for Steve Spagnolo

803
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,240
Speaker 1: and on a per snap basis, he made a massive impact.

804
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,439
Speaker 1: It was always interesting though at the end of the year.

805
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: You know, you'd be looking at the list and be like, huh,

806
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: he only played four hundred and fifty snaps. You know,

807
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: they never played it more that he had a very

808
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 1: specific role. They never trusted him to be on the field.

809
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: So I don't know, as a personnel guy, like how

810
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: you how you evaluate that and how a guy like

811
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 1: that gets gets paid. Versus maybe a more standard like

812
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:02,919
Speaker 1: three down guy or maybe Yeah.

813
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 3: I mean it's just a personnel packages. And when you've

814
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 3: got Bolton out there, so yeah, you know, you can

815
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 3: throw an extra dB out there and then you're limited.

816
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 2: But he's a good player and there's love for him.

817
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 2: I know that.

818
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,240
Speaker 1: I think the cornerback class in free agency is typical.

819
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: It's average. There's plenty of guys who are gonna get

820
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: ten million dollar contracts in free agency. There's not a

821
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: lot of super duper stars, but everyone has different like

822
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: flavors of the of the types of guys that they like.

823
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: I think Cordell Flat is gonna sneaky get him a

824
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 1: good amount of money.

825
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 2: From Yea, his name's been popular.

826
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, Alante Taylor will too. I have no clue about

827
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 1: Rieke wooland I'm not totally sure about Jalen Watson and

828
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: the Chiefs what kind of money he gets. And then

829
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,399
Speaker 1: there's plenty of other names like Monteric Brown. I think

830
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: I'll do okay from the from the Jaguars, But there's

831
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: a lot of good, not great cornerbacks available.

832
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 4: I don't know that matches up with the depth of

833
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 4: the draft.

834
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good it's a good group.

835
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 3: Again, I'm excited maybe more or so about the second

836
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 3: tier than the top tier. And it was interesting I

837
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 3: how to talk with a team that's, you know, desperately

838
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 3: in the corner market outside and inside, and they told

839
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 3: me they're like, look, we're prioritizing the nickel over our

840
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 3: outside corner. We feel like in our defense and really

841
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 3: a lot of the defenses. We've been discussing this right

842
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 3: having impact guys in that position, in that role. So

843
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 3: they were like, man, if we're going to take one,

844
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 3: if we're going to take a couple of them in

845
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 3: the draft, we might choose to take the nickel first

846
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 3: and then turn on and take the outside corner in

847
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 3: a later round. But that that's interesting to me. And

848
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 3: it's a really good group of guys that can play

849
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 3: inside of the nickel. And it's some bigger guys you

850
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 3: can find too, a guy like Kilgore from South Carolina

851
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 3: has really really helped himself and teams they're going to

852
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 3: value that type of player that profile.

853
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: Well, when I think about free agency and thinking about that,

854
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: the name that stands out to me there is Alante Taylor,

855
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: guy who I've always been intrigued by when he's at

856
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 1: his best, I think has been.

857
00:36:58,520 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 4: A really good player.

858
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 1: Otherwise we're looking at mostly mostly outside guys flat flots

859
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: played a little bit on the inside, but yet not

860
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: a lot of guys with that sort of versatility.

861
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 4: There are.

862
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: There is versatility at safety though, like it's it's an

863
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: awesome group you have.

864
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 4: You have ten to.

865
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: Twelve like real deal starters slash plus starters, but the

866
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: I think the amount of them works against them. This

867
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: happens a lot at safety, where a lot of teams

868
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: I think, will wait it out and try to find

869
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: that next Cam Curl contract. His last contract was two

870
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: for nine million dollars and he's a free agent again

871
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: specifically too, but there will be deals like that for

872
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: safeties that wind up playing two thousand snaps over the

873
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 1: next two years and you only have to pay him

874
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: four million dollars a year, and they're going to be

875
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Speaker 1: pretty good for you.

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Speaker 4: There's good names out there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say there's there's five guys I love

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Speaker 3: in the safety class, including three that I have first

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Speaker 3: round grades on, and then two more that I would

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Speaker 3: that I would take on on day two, and then

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Speaker 3: it goes pretty deep to ten, eleven, twelve guys that

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Speaker 3: I think have a chance to get on the field

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Speaker 3: next year. So it's that the two positions I think

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Speaker 3: that have elevated themselves in the draft side of things

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Speaker 3: since the end of the season until now that have

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Speaker 3: ended up being better than we initially thre at least

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Speaker 3: I initially thought most people initially thoughts linebacker and safety,

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Speaker 3: that those guys have really kind of jumped and emerged athletes.

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Speaker 4: What's the deal with all the athletes playing safety now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's hard.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they were faster the freaking than the corners the

892
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 3: way they were rolling out there. And we have some

893
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 3: of those guys in that safety group that are going

894
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Speaker 3: to be the big Nichols that that I was talking about.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, those two positions exceeded expectations.

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Speaker 4: And there are guys available.

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Speaker 1: So I'm really curious what the Seahawks are going to

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Speaker 1: do in their secondary in general. I don't expect Riek

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Speaker 1: Willing to be back, but they have Kobe Bryant at safety,

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Speaker 1: who is very good for them. They have Josh Job

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Speaker 1: at a cornerback who is good for them. But then

902
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Speaker 1: I have Brian Cook is just a blast to watch

903
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: play football. I think the cross of the Colts as

904
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Speaker 1: an underrated player that I think will do okay in

905
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Speaker 1: free agency. I mentioned Curl before, and then there's guys

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Speaker 1: like Reid Blanke and hip. Jalen Thompson is a good

907
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,439
Speaker 1: player for the Cardinals. Yeah, Jakwan Brisker is a big

908
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: risk because of the concussions. But if you want a

909
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: guy who hits like, look no further. Jalen Hawkins played

910
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Speaker 1: well a Looie Gilmot Like, there's this guys at safety

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Speaker 1: where I think that I'm going to be updating a

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Speaker 1: different safety signing every day next week. While I'm working hard,

913
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 1: you're out watching baseball. We're cranking out shows every day

914
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Speaker 1: here for NFL Daily moving Forward. We're live all week

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Speaker 1: next week. This is this is my time of year.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you know.

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Speaker 1: I know you're not a listener. But we call it

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Speaker 1: the regular season. Oh is that what we call it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: The regular season?

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Speaker 2: What do you okay?

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Speaker 3: Well, well, I don't love it, but work shopping, keep

923
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Speaker 3: work shopping it. By the way, you know, you hear

924
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Speaker 3: like all these different rumors while.

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Speaker 2: You're at I was just give me some good one.

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Speaker 3: Well, I was just thinking about it while you were

927
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Speaker 3: talking and we're talking about Seahawks, and there was a

928
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Speaker 3: rumor of like they could be a Max Crosby team

929
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Speaker 3: that would like shock me.

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Speaker 2: You hear them.

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Speaker 1: No, they have so much cap space. It's a little

932
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Speaker 1: under the radar. If you look at the teams, like

933
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Speaker 1: with the eight teams with the most cap space, it's

934
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Speaker 1: it's many of the worst teams in the NFL, and

935
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Speaker 1: then it's the Chargers in the Seahawks and you're like, huh,

936
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Speaker 1: well that's interesting.

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Speaker 3: Well, a lot of their own guys, you know, like

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Speaker 3: I think Job, I think Joe would be a priority

939
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Speaker 3: for Seattle, try and get him done amongst all those guys.

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Speaker 1: And Crosby would be fascinating to just say like, hey,

941
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Speaker 1: this is our team right now, we can do it.

942
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Speaker 1: Let's take advantage of this window. They don't have a

943
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Speaker 1: rookie quarterback contract, but they have a quarterback contract.

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Speaker 4: They feel good about that. They're not going too crazy

945
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Speaker 4: for But.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you'd have that would be already got de

947
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Speaker 3: Marcus Lawrence, gosh, I mean, they've got Chenna and Wolsu

948
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Speaker 3: on the other side, Like all said, you've got Max

949
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Speaker 3: Crosby with all those dts.

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Speaker 2: Holy moly.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so you mentioned Crosby. That's great. I have a

952
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Speaker 4: proposal for you. Yes, And I know you're big on

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Speaker 4: the draft and all this stuff.

954
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Speaker 1: For three weeks every year you be NFL insider Daniel Jeremiah.

955
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Speaker 1: You know we've got potential changes here at NFL Network

956
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: and all this stuff. The more you can do, those

957
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Speaker 1: guys get top money. I mean, you see the suits

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00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 1: that Pelisaro wears and everything, and Ian. You have so

959
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 1: much information that I know that you get. You could,

960
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Speaker 1: you could actually, and they're different. They're getting all their stuff.

961
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of agent talk from them, self serving talk.

962
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Speaker 1: You're getting it straight from straight from the sources. Sometimes

963
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Speaker 1: you could be NFL insider Daniel Jeremiah just for like

964
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Speaker 1: three weeks blow them out of the water and tell

965
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Speaker 1: your agent that and get a big contract.

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Speaker 3: Nope, I just like talking to you about it on

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Speaker 3: the side, so that when it happens two weeks.

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Speaker 2: Later, that's Greg. Greg. Greg's respect for me just grows

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Speaker 2: just a little tiny bit.

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Speaker 1: It annoys me. DJ has all this good stuff. I

971
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Speaker 1: can't say anything about it. You you're not saying anything

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Speaker 1: about it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Well, some of it's gonna happen soon.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah, we're not supposed to say, you know anything,

975
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Speaker 1: but yeah, the Patriots are going to get a J

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Speaker 1: Brown Max Crosby their back now, all right, next week

977
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Speaker 1: we're going to be off and running in free agency

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Speaker 1: and DJ, thank you. It was great stuff every year

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Speaker 1: on the combine. Appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: I love watching you and Rich do it year after year.

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Speaker 4: And uh, we'll see you next week.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you, buddy,