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Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguar's football bottle. But every day.

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Speaker 1: This is very low rent for a town that prides

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Speaker 1: January second. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. And now a

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Speaker 1: don't even know what that is in reference to you.

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Speaker 1: You're JA stands for Judy. Your first name is Judy.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that. I didn't either, not actor. What

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Speaker 1: that's not accurate either, but yeah, welcome in Jack. What

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Speaker 1: is what is Jame? P? Stand for? James Patrick? Do

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Speaker 1: we have to one of those? Is right? We're not

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Speaker 1: going anywhere until you well? Alright, so we've got plenty

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Speaker 1: of James ball Jared Patrick. Jared Patrick? Like, so you

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Speaker 1: You might want to back that train on up, buddy.

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Speaker 1: This is Jaguars j Tony Boselli, Jerry Judy. Here's what's

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Speaker 1: coming up on the program called Well and Maron Quick Talking,

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Speaker 1: called Well Marone return. Communication will be improved, they say,

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Speaker 1: we'll hear from those guys coming up the off season schedule.

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Speaker 1: We're there now, So what's coming up in the next

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Speaker 1: month or two, including the NFL Draft. The build up

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Speaker 1: Let's start off with the press conference from earlier this

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Speaker 1: week on Tuesday, Dave called well general manager, trying to

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Speaker 1: So my responsibility as a head coach is to be Okay,

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Speaker 1: some other thoughts from that press conference. Yes, Tony, so

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Speaker 1: On the first day. You can first day you got,

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Speaker 1: I mean, and he'll be upset and I get why. Um,

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Speaker 1: but you have to use it for a levite standpoint

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Speaker 1: time to negotiate a long term deal. Business is business,

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Speaker 1: and it's business just like it's for Yon business. Business.

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Speaker 1: He has to make a business decisions that is best

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Speaker 1: for him and he's earned that right. He's played great

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Speaker 1: football for four years. He took a gamble. He came

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Speaker 1: back this year. He played. His tail off was hurt

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Speaker 1: earlier the year. I think it affected some of his

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Speaker 1: numbers from a stack production with that hamstring the first

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Speaker 1: few weeks, and he played through it. He played through it.

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Speaker 1: He did complaint. He never made the contract an issue.

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Speaker 1: He was not a locker room issue. He was, like

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Speaker 1: Jeff said, he played his tail off at the end. Um,

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Speaker 1: he's the type of guy wanted my football team if

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Speaker 1: I was the coach or in charge of building this team. Um.

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Speaker 1: And so you have to use the tag if you

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Speaker 1: can't come to a deal before then. And once you

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Speaker 1: use the tag, now you have some leverage because you

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Speaker 1: can either sign him to a long term deal you

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Speaker 1: can force him to play for that number. It's the

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Speaker 1: tag is probably gonna be seventeen eighteen million dollars over

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Speaker 1: the cap. Dot com hasn't projected this nineteen nineteen point three,

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Speaker 1: So that's your baseline starting negotiations for paying He's gonna

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Speaker 1: at least nineteen point three million a year. That's the minimum.

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Speaker 1: That's and uh, and they really take the second year

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Speaker 1: into account. That's your guaranteed money minimum. Ye in the

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Speaker 1: second year, if they franchised him again, it would be

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Speaker 1: another twenty percent above that, I believe, So there'll still

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Speaker 1: be your twenty three So your minimum guaranteed you're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to pay unique is fifty million, basically ballpark million starting.

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Speaker 1: That's just that's like like like your first offer can't

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Speaker 1: be below that has probably about ten to fifteen percent

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Speaker 1: higher than that because if you're on um, but you

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Speaker 1: have to tag him because you have leverage to force

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Speaker 1: him to play that number, you have leverage to give

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Speaker 1: you more time to work out a long term deal.

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Speaker 1: And finally, if you can't, you have the leverage to

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Speaker 1: trade them and get a first round traft which he

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Speaker 1: would have to sign, right, he would have to sign

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Speaker 1: the franchise tag to be traded. Yes, I believe so,

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Speaker 1: but that would be worked out, So you have to

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Speaker 1: use it. Um Again, I'm with Jeff. Do I want

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Speaker 1: him on the team? Yes? But you you have to.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this team has salary camp issues right now.

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Speaker 1: It is over the cap going into next year, meaning

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to cut, which I'm sure we'll talk

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Speaker 1: about here in a little bit. Some starters guys. Who

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Speaker 1: are starters that you counted on this year? Is your

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Speaker 1: front line guys, You're going to have to cut or

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Speaker 1: get them to restructure in a major way. And so

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Speaker 1: you just can't just start going to write a check

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Speaker 1: for twenty two million in dollars year to yawn until

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Speaker 1: you figure that side out. And in that process you

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Speaker 1: have to sit back and say, not just for this

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Speaker 1: coming year, but for the next three to four years,

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Speaker 1: are we willing to as an organization to put a

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Speaker 1: cap number in the high in the mid twenties or

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Speaker 1: the low twenties on our pass Rusher, that's the question

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Speaker 1: you have to ask, and you have to. It's a

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Speaker 1: big it's a it's a puzzle, it's a you have

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Speaker 1: to look at the allocatian resources and that's to that position.

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Speaker 1: That's that's you know, that's what it is. And you

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Speaker 1: already have to the other defensive end. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what the number is for Josh Allen's rookie deal, but

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Speaker 1: it's probably about nine or ten years, isn't it. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what that is. That's a great question. Uh,

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Speaker 1: rookie deal, I mean should not be anything that's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Five years. JP is gonna stand four years whatever the

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Speaker 1: four year numbers. What's five year? I mean it's a

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Speaker 1: five year deal. Yeah, but right now you're only locked

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Speaker 1: in for the fourth locked in four, but it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be five. Your cab numbers on four an option here,

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Speaker 1: and the way he's going right now, you'd already picked

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Speaker 1: the option up if you could do it for Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: Cap hit five point one, dead captain point nine five

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Speaker 1: point one. So I mean that means what's your cap

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Speaker 1: hit next year? You got that six point two one,

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Speaker 1: but it's five point one. So here's it's very simple.

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Speaker 1: So do you want to allocate or thirty million dollars

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Speaker 1: at the defense and end position for your starters? And

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Speaker 1: that's I mean, that's the question. It's it's a big picture.

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Speaker 1: It's not it's not a crazy philosophy to build around

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Speaker 1: guys like that, not at all. I'm not saying it is.

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Speaker 1: But considering everything out that that's gone out from this

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Speaker 1: football team, and then in salary cap over the last

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Speaker 1: few years, you gotta let me go back to when

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Speaker 1: when people like the Rams Rams and in a pretty

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Speaker 1: tough spot because they traded away a lot of their

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Speaker 1: draft capital and five guys and a a hundred eight million

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Speaker 1: dollars in their cap. Okay, So when you have that

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Speaker 1: kind of top heavy salary cap, I guess you could

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Speaker 1: say until so now you need to find a way

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Speaker 1: to bring in your lower cost employees. I means you

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Speaker 1: have to figure out the other forty eight guys for

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Speaker 1: a hundred millions Okay, So you're you're lower cost employees

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Speaker 1: come in in the form of rookies, okay. And then

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Speaker 1: that rookies comes in typically in the draft. And if

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Speaker 1: them as undrafted rookie free agents. So where are the

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Speaker 1: Rams right now trying to be able to counteract that

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Speaker 1: top heavy salary cap. They're in a tough position now,

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Speaker 1: then whoever comes in after that point, then we'll have

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Speaker 1: a decent job in a new stadium next year and

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Speaker 1: a really big new stadium. Yes, they gotta fill. This

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Speaker 1: They're gonna go what are we doing? And then when

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Speaker 1: didn't justify the number that you gave him. They've got

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Speaker 1: Jaguars have the resources to be able to to do that.

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Speaker 1: Let's come back, we'll talk the quarterback position and we'll

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Speaker 1: touch on some of those guys that could be kept.

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Speaker 1: Casualties especially, I think is one that it's really interesting,

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Speaker 1: and that's and in the summary summario, we all want

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Speaker 1: priority number, well, I think it should be. And look,

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Speaker 1: he won games, he came back and won two games himself.

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Speaker 1: I think the r the winner is gonna be uh.

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Speaker 1: I think the running back Josh Jacobs is going to

642
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Speaker 1: get the probably year. Yeah, but I was I know

643
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: that there's a couple other publication slash websites to come

644
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: out with their picks and uh Minshew hasn't won any

645
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: of them yet and Josh Allen hasn't won any of

646
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: them because both has been getting obviously better team I

647
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 1: think it is going to get you there. And he

648
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,720
Speaker 1: was a higher pick and he's a really good player.

649
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: I mean to try to pick between Josh Allen nick Bos,

650
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: I mean you don't go wrong either way. I think

651
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: they're both great players. If you're looking at Kyler Murray

652
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: and Minshew, if you look at the numbers, I mean,

653
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: Minshew has been better and uh so more wins, more touchdowns.

654
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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to discount what Gardner Minshew has been

655
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: able to do this year. But I think if if

656
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Speaker 1: you stand pat at the quarterback position and take the

657
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,919
Speaker 1: approach of the hey, look we feel good about where

658
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Speaker 1: we're at, and we feel good enough to the point

659
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Speaker 1: where where we're not going to look at addressing the

660
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Speaker 1: quarterback position via the draft or free ancy. I don't

661
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: think you can do it during free anc anyway, but

662
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: if you feel like you're not going to address it

663
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: in in the draft, I think that's a mistake. I

664
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: think always have to be open to doing that, as

665
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: I said before, and tell you know you have the guy.

666
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you may feel good about Minshew, but do

667
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: you know would you use the would you use the

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00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: sixth over I guess I'm not. We're at six more,

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Speaker 1: ninth overall pick Tony. I said I would do it

670
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: last year, right, I mean we we had this conversation

671
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: last year in the draft, and I think we talked

672
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: about I think it was Haskins and and and h Well,

673
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 1: I mean, who knows what Haskins is gonna become, but

674
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: it's a it's an interesting conversation. I said last year that, yes,

675
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: I would consider drafting a quarterback, even though the Jaguars

676
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,720
Speaker 1: had spent the money in free agency on Nick Foles.

677
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: So here's the balance of this too. It This was

678
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Speaker 1: asked kind of in the press conference a little bit.

679
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: They've got a win, called well on Maron, They've got

680
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 1: to win next year. They've got to be a playoff

681
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: team next year. Right, If you draft a quarterback in

682
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Speaker 1: the first round, ninth overall and expect him to go

683
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: out and get you to the playoffs? Is that thinking

684
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: too much of that? Guy? Yes? Was the balance of

685
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: the notre of the organization versus next year? Well, that's

686
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: I think that question depends what you're asking. Darn right,

687
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: it is. Well that question was actually posed during the

688
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: press conference and called Welsh felt that that was that

689
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: was his job in ownership's job to balance that, to

690
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 1: provide balance in that instance. And again, I mean that

691
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:36,439
Speaker 1: that's hard. It's hard to do that because going back

692
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: to what we talked about before, there is skin in

693
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: the game. And if you're giving a win now mandate,

694
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: you know, what are you gonna do? And so and

695
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that they were given a win now, man,

696
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: we were. The expectation is they've got to show improvement

697
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Speaker 1: whatever that is. So uh so, yeah, I mean that's

698
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 1: that's a tough thing to accomplish. And uh and look,

699
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 1: I don't know the draft as far as quarterbacks, so

700
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: I'm not an expert. Now I know that there's one

701
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: of them, that is I've seen two playing this pretty

702
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: good Joe Burrow, Joe Burrows pretty good. Actual, I've seen

703
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: three Joe brow to uh came saying his last that's

704
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: all I'm going with you. And then Herbert from Oregon

705
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:24,879
Speaker 1: I already looked really good in the ballgame. I didn't

706
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: watch it well, stats were terrible. I was on a plane,

707
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: So I didn't see it. Maybe I'm wrong. No, no,

708
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 1: but all the report I read the same reports that

709
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: he looked like he's the real deal. Rookies at other

710
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: positions can have more of an immediate impact, though, unless

711
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: your name is Andrew Luck or I guess r G

712
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 1: three had a big impact this first there's many Storically

713
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: it doesn't work out. Man, well, Lamar Jackson. Here here's

714
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: a perfect example. Lamar Jackson was taking thirty first in

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00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: the NFL pick. They were an organization that looked like

716
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: possibly making a change that they head coach seven seventh

717
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: straight or sixth something like that. Gott won the division

718
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: and gotten to play rookie. So rookie quarterback not common,

719
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: but rookie quarterbacks can, I mean, special ones can make

720
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Speaker 1: a difference. But here, here, here, let's look at the

721
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame quarterbacks. I mean, look at the Hall

722
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: of Fame quarterbacks. Let me look out how many of

723
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: them have had that kind of an impact in the

724
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: rookie season. Montana l A. Marina Marino pretty good? Uh,

725
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean not many guys came in and

726
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: had that impact. So it's it's it's pretty rare for

727
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 1: that position. I'm with Jeff. I think you always draft

728
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: a guy until you have the guy, but you know

729
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: he's the guy. And even then, even when you know

730
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: you have the guy, you brand need the draft one

731
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 1: every two or three years in the middle of the

732
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: back end. Um. But did you see Chris Ballard's comments

733
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: today on Jacoby Brisette. I thought it was pretty good

734
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: and that he was asked about about Jacoby Brissette and

735
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: he said, you know, we're just not comfortable. We still

736
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 1: feel like we've got a lot of work to do

737
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: at that position, said, we need to be better in

738
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: the passing game. Jacoby has to be better, we have

739
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: to be better as coaches. I have to be better

740
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Speaker 1: to provide more weapons for Jacoby Brissette. And I liked

741
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 1: his answer and that he was very noncommittal. He didn't

742
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: say that, look, you know, I feel good about Jacoby Brissette.

743
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: He didn't say I feel bad about Jacoby Brissette. He said, look,

744
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: we got work to do. And uh. And I think

745
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 1: when you I mean that, that that I think is

746
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: a really honest assessment of where they're at. And it's

747
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: very fair and I don't think that's in any way

748
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: demeaning from the general manager Ballard down to Brissette. I

749
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Speaker 1: think it's that's just that's reality, right, and it's honest,

750
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Speaker 1: and I thought that that was was a good way

751
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Speaker 1: to go about the only reason I would not take

752
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 1: a quarterback at nine this year from what I've seen,

753
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: other the work I've done, I think what will be

754
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: there at nine, Like, I'm only taking the guy at

755
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: nine if I'm convinced, if if I'm David, Doug and

756
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: shod and due through the evaluation, like this guy is

757
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: the guy, and so we're taking him. If he falls

758
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: the nine, we're taking him. Other than that, I think

759
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: this roster has way too many holes. I guess, way

760
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: too many holes. And I think you need to. I

761
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: think you need to if it was me, the first

762
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: three picks or first four picks. Let's say that your

763
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: two first, your two, and your three and no order,

764
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: because I haven't done any work on the draft either,

765
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 1: but you need offensive line defense into your defensive line, middle, linebacker,

766
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: tight end. Those are like major holes on this quarterback.

767
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 1: And I would I would argue, I would argue defensive first,

768
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: you gotta stop that run somehow. You have to have

769
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: best player first. You have to fix the interior of

770
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: that defense, defense, tackle, middle, lineback. Um, I'm with Jeff,

771
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 1: with Jeff as well, if a franchise left tackle sitting

772
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: there at nine, you take him, take them more. More

773
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: mistakes have been made in the draft trying to pick

774
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: need than than best player. Yeah, you need. I mean no,

775
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: I'm not just picking best player. I'm not picking I

776
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: don't care if the best player of the world's at

777
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 1: wide receiver, I'm not or unning back. I'm not picking

778
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: him ninth. I think it is Jerry Judy and if

779
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: he's here on the eight crow. But I said the

780
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 1: same thing in seventeen when Jared whatever his name is,

781
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: j J J whatever, whatever. That's why we're not gonna

782
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 1: pick him, or we might who knows. Um, But that's

783
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: why I wouldn't at nine right now, having done no

784
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 1: college work, just watch college football this year, would not

785
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: pick a quarterback right there. Um, as far as Gardner Mintshew,

786
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: I thought it was funny, no decision has been made.

787
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: But then at the last comment was we feel good

788
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: about Gardner? Minshew never mentioned Nick Foles at all? Well,

789
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: the question that, to be fair, was asked specific it

790
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: was about but he delved into the quarterback position. Um,

791
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: that's fair then. Uh. The bottom line is this, The

792
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: facts are the facts. Gardner Minshew was the best quarterback

793
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: in the NFL workie quarterback in the NFL this year.

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00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: If you would have been a first round draft pick,

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00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 1: everybody in this country, in this city, in the NFL

796
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: community would be saying, boy, the Jaguars found their guy.

797
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: But ricky about coming in on a roster that's not

798
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: very good winning six games during one touchdowns, nine interceptions

799
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Speaker 1: over six completion percentage, everybody would be saying, based on

800
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: no tight end on the roster, um, you know, a

801
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: bunch of some issues as far as protection at the

802
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: offensive line, they'd be saying, he's the guy. I mean,

803
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: that's what they would be saying. Because they're saying in

804
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 1: New York with Daniel Jones right now, they're excited about him.

805
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 1: Arizona is a static static with Kyler Murley Murray. He

806
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: was better than both of them. What doesn't though, when

807
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: you're higher draft back, a first round quarterback, is the

808
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: focus a little more on your mistakes like the mistakes

809
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: that Gardner made if he was the first round because

810
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: the expectations are higher, so the concentration is higher numbers.

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Speaker 1: Look at the numbers and nine. I'm just saying, like

812
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: the it could be a different um approach to criticism

813
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: of him. I don't disagree. But as you look at

814
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Speaker 1: it where you sit, Kyler Murray won five games, Daniel

815
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: Jones won three games, UH, Dwayne Haskins won two or

816
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: three games, and you have UH with Gardner Minsho win

817
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: six games. I don't think anyone will argue, at least

818
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: at this table right now or across the league, that

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00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 1: the Jaguars roster was better than those other teams. I

820
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: don't know. But what I'm saying but is it was

821
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Speaker 1: it remarkably better Jeff, based on what you know. Yeah,

822
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's worse, but I'm just saying, but

823
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Speaker 1: it's in it. So you look at his touchdown to

824
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: interception ratio better than all of them. You look at

825
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: his completion percentage right in the same area, which is

826
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Speaker 1: not good enough. It's not good enough, but it's right

827
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Speaker 1: in the same areas these other rookies. And so that's

828
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Speaker 1: where I think if you look at gardnerments, you're like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm not convinced he's the guy. By the way. That's

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Speaker 1: why I'm picking a quarterback at some point in this draft,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not convinced he's not either. I'm with you,

832
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 1: so it's it's unknown. All right, Let's come back in

833
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: a moment, we will discuss wild card weekend. Let's come on.

834
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Speaker 1: Let me just say this because when I think when

835
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Speaker 1: and what you don't want to get into is a

836
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: situation where you've been in before, which is where like

837
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Speaker 1: where you're at with borders and seventeen essentially extending him

838
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: and then and then you don't end up miss you

839
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Speaker 1: passing with somebody because you think you have them. That's

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Speaker 1: what you're saying. Yeah, so mean you you didn't maybe

841
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 1: take three guys in that year and then the next

842
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: year that could have been guys. And so that's what

843
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,959
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You've got to be very cautious about about

844
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Speaker 1: how committed you are, because you gotta know before you

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Speaker 1: before you give up that search, or before you kind

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Speaker 1: Wild Card weekend? Some teams playing postseason football this week.

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Speaker 1: There out the wild card weekend schedule, the Bills in

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Speaker 1: You're Tony, you have the Patriots game? Is that right?

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Speaker 1: Been Gillette for you tomorrow night? And uh go watch

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Speaker 1: the Titans and the Patriots play. It'll be fun. Uh

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Speaker 1: even a matchup, I think yeah. I think it's to

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Speaker 1: be a close game. You know, usually you just say,

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Speaker 1: as long as that the Patriots could stop Derrick Henry,

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Speaker 1: they'll be fine. But you go look at the numbers

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Speaker 1: and with Ryan Tannehill has done this year is remarkable.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he has played really good football. They're like,

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Speaker 1: the red zone proficiency is off the charts. Over seventy

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Speaker 1: touchdowns they score, um, what's his completion percentage? Wow? And

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Speaker 1: they gave up what round pick for tanney Hill in

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Speaker 1: fourth round six, something like that. I mean a late

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Speaker 1: the best quarterback acquisition of any team this season. Tannehill

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Speaker 1: seventy passing this year to a one. Yeah, it's amazing.

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Speaker 1: It's like one, see what what round they gave up?

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's good. And then you know the Patriots

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Speaker 1: can't are struggling to score points, so Brady A lot

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Speaker 1: of talk that this will be Brady's last if they don't,

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Speaker 1: if they lose, will be Brady's last game in the

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Speaker 1: Patriot uniform. You think it will be? Um, yeah, I do.

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Speaker 1: I think I think that Belichick's ready to move on.

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Speaker 1: That's the sense kind of you read between the lines.

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Speaker 1: I haven't talked to anyone, but just as you read,

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Speaker 1: And I think I think belichicks here. I mean he

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Speaker 1: has not I mean Brady has not been great. Now.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't have a lot of weapons either around them.

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Speaker 1: But let me make this point because it's it's interesting

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Speaker 1: to me because when a player gets to be a

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Speaker 1: same boat, okay, and then when they get to a

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Speaker 1: instead of maybe tom Brady's got an elbow, maybe Clariss

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Speaker 1: so I think sometimes people are quick to go it's

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Speaker 1: the age. We've got to move on from this, instead

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Speaker 1: and then keeping them for another year. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: age sometimes is that first reaction. So I wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: if I'm the Patriots, I'm not sitting there going age

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Speaker 1: is caught up with tom Brady. We've got to move

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Speaker 1: on from him. You don't want to move on to

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Speaker 1: I mean, I would roll the dice another year and say, hey, look,

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Speaker 1: you know, I've got a guy who's who's the goat

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Speaker 1: and maybe it was just a health issue this year,

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Speaker 1: and try to roll with him once again, just like

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Speaker 1: if I were the Jaguars, I would want to roll

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Speaker 1: with Claiss Campbell once again. I'd like to try to

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Speaker 1: get the number a little bit more manageable because I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna try to reduce his number of defensive snaps. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: forget about but I have to get the number more manageable.

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Speaker 1: Because you can't afford him under the cap to pay him,

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Speaker 1: what do you do next? You should probably find a way. Okay,

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Speaker 1: but Jeff, you say that, but how are you gonna

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Speaker 1: do that? Would do that? I mean the cap right now?

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Speaker 1: I mean you have somebody's gonna be gone and someone

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Speaker 1: has to take pay cuts. Now, I'm with you. I

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Speaker 1: look at You're not gonna pay him? What is his

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Speaker 1: fifteen or sixteen next morning? I mean you wouldn't do that,

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Speaker 1: But I mean in a perfect world. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: you'd like to keep him. I'd like to keep him too.

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Speaker 1: Just fourteen and a half the dead Caps five? Okay, yeah, alright,

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Speaker 1: so what would be a fair number? Eight? I'm with him,

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Speaker 1: I'm right there with him. And that was this year

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Speaker 1: seventeen and a half and the dead Caps two and

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Speaker 1: a half next year, yes, which I mean so look,

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Speaker 1: I mean for how many snaps? I mean we're gonna

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Speaker 1: pay We're gonna pay him how many snaps? No more

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Speaker 1: than that? And and pay him eight million. Now I'd

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Speaker 1: be comfortable with that. Calais may not be comfortable with that.

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Speaker 1: Are you comfortable with the other guys taking the snaps

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Speaker 1: that he's not taking anymore? Um, well, I mean, Smooth's

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Speaker 1: more of that role and whether or not he could

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Speaker 1: perform he Look, here's the reality, GP, He's not gonna

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Speaker 1: be able to perform at the level that Clay has

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Speaker 1: performed at this year or the year before or the

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Speaker 1: year before that. It's not what that that you're not

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Speaker 1: trying to replace at the same level or better with

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Speaker 1: Klais's performers. You're trying to get close to it so

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Speaker 1: that you can allow Class to still be or to

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Speaker 1: go back to his level of performance of what he

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Speaker 1: was back in eighteen and seventeen. So, no, you can't

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Speaker 1: It doesn't work that way. I mean, you've you've got

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Speaker 1: defensive player. Yeah, he was awesome this year. It was good.

1025
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Speaker 1: It wasn't great two years ago. Phenomenal three years ago. Wow,

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Speaker 1: I mean arguably the best player in defense. You should

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Speaker 1: have you should have won. So I mean, look at

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Speaker 1: I'd love to keep him and and hopefully you can

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Speaker 1: work something out. But what is this, Uh, it would

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Speaker 1: be your third team years old, and you're talking about

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Speaker 1: a guy who has made I think he's surpassed a

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Speaker 1: hundred million in career earnings. So it becomes at a

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Speaker 1: point where it's not about the money, although some cases

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Speaker 1: it might still be. Yeah, he surpassed a hundred million

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Speaker 1: this year a hundred three billion and change. In when

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Speaker 1: I think of your class, you have to ask yourself

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Speaker 1: a question if gonna take a health and if you're

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Speaker 1: gonna take a pay cut, because regardless, even if you

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Speaker 1: let him go and he still wants to play, no

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Speaker 1: one else is gonna pay in fifteen sixty million dollars

1041
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Speaker 1: either do a thing no, I yeah, I wouldn't think.

1042
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Speaker 1: So it comes down to crazy things happen. That's true.

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Speaker 1: Fair enough. It comes down to if you're Calais, do

1044
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Speaker 1: you want to take a pay cut? You still want

1045
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: to play? And now you have options. Let's say it's

1046
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Speaker 1: all equal. I can make eight million dollars here, I

1047
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: can make eight million dollars a team A, B, C,

1048
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Speaker 1: and D, and then us be in the fifth team.

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Speaker 1: You have to ask yourself where you are in your career.

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Speaker 1: If all the money is equal and you've made a

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Speaker 1: bunch of money, is what do you want? What do

1052
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Speaker 1: you want? And so your comfort Maybe I want to

1053
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Speaker 1: finish my career. I've got to have a legacy here.

1054
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Speaker 1: I'm one of the most popular players in franchise history.

1055
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Speaker 1: I can, you know, try to help transposition this team

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Speaker 1: and mentor young guys and you know everything else and

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Speaker 1: have a chance to you know, go to the playoffs

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Speaker 1: and makes them happen. But it's not as good as

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Speaker 1: or I can go to another team that's you know,

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Speaker 1: a playoff can tender one of the favorites for the

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Speaker 1: you know super Bowl. Yeah, and I want to get

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Speaker 1: a ring. Well, now, all of a a sudden, you're like, well,

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Speaker 1: I love Jacksonville, but I want to ring. And I

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Speaker 1: think Kansas City gives me a better chance of win

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Speaker 1: to ring than Jacksonville does. Or what if Denver offers wherever?

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Speaker 1: You know, I chance to play my hometown interest before

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Speaker 1: so so we'll see. By the way, um, the Dolphins

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Speaker 1: traded Tannehill and a sixth round pick this year to

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Speaker 1: the Titans for a twenty nineteen seventh round pick and

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Speaker 1: fourth round pick. There were multiple draft picks, basically a

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Speaker 1: fourth round fifth rounder, yes, yea like a fourth fifth

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Speaker 1: round Sad news today, former Bengals and Bucks head coach

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Speaker 1: Sam White passed away seventy four years of age. He

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Speaker 1: died at his home and pick in South Carolina of

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Speaker 1: liver cancer. He was the head coach of the Bengals

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Speaker 1: from eighty four to ninety one, in the Buccaneers from

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Speaker 1: ninety two to ninety five, and had a career after

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Speaker 1: that in the broadcast booth. He was. My experience with

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Speaker 1: him was kind of twofold. Bruce Coslate was my head

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Speaker 1: coach when I was in New York for a time,

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Speaker 1: and Bruce came from that. He was a player and

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Speaker 1: coach for the Cincinnati Bengals for a long period of time,

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Speaker 1: and so he came from underneath Sam White, and so

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Speaker 1: I got to know Sam via Bruce and UH and

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Speaker 1: then also got to meet him a little bit when

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Speaker 1: he was a broadcaster. Outstanding man, I mean, top notch,

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Speaker 1: top level human being, coach. Guy. I can't say enough

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Speaker 1: good things about him. In UH in the world has

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Speaker 1: lost a good all right, we're back in a moment

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Speaker 1: on the Jaguars Radio Network that Doug Barone show right

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Speaker 1: around the corner. Thanks for listening to Jaguars Happy Hour

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Speaker 1: on the Jaguars Digital Network.