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Speaker 1: In this episode, to You and Star Wars sit down

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Speaker 1: with Brandon a, a former Air Force a C one

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Speaker 1: to law enforcement. That's a little about your background. A

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Speaker 1: little after high school, about a year or so, I

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Speaker 1: Funny story behind that. I signed up as an actual

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Speaker 1: were recovering and wishing, you know, weren't I don't really know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but um, the specters over there, when we were doing

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Speaker 1: you guys go through Alburn school because you mentioned parachuting

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Speaker 1: quote unquote parachute training and pretty much we parasailed higher

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Speaker 1: we use if we use all the rounds, we're off station.

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00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,640
Speaker 1: We're going back to re arm It's just curious. Have

429
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 1: you ever had any ground force come to your compout

430
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 1: or send their thanks after a mission? Oh yeah, oh yeah.

431
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 1: So that was probably one of the greatest parts of

432
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 1: the mission. Especially we had a lot of guys come out,

433
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: you know, to kind of like shadow I guess you

434
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: would say. They would ride with us and their ground

435
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 1: party would be on the ground and then we all

436
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,919
Speaker 1: meet up and we talked. That was fun, but it

437
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: was it was I appreciated it more when we actually

438
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,719
Speaker 1: did a combat mission to where we had you know,

439
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 1: we were overhead and you know, there are people moving

440
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: tactically on the on the ground guy's position, and they

441
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 1: gave us to go ahead, you know, to eliminate the threat,

442
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,479
Speaker 1: and then we escort them home and then when they

443
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 1: come home, they come meet us, and it's just it

444
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 1: was a great experience, so you so, yeah, that happened

445
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: pretty often. We had an opportunity and uh, mogi do shoot.

446
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: The word came out that a couple of guys could

447
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 1: go up with specter, you know, make a shift with them,

448
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: and uh being my but you know, we were totally

449
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 1: on board with that. We were all excited about doing it.

450
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 1: And when it came down to it, they could only

451
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 1: take one of the time. So I left my but

452
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 1: but will go ahead of me. And he was gone

453
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 1: a long time, you know, and when when he when

454
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: he came back, he was all upset and that was

455
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: such bullshit. What's wrong? He said? Well, he had to

456
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 1: sit in the seat with a seatbelt on for ten

457
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: hours solid and not move wherever to get up. You know,

458
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: that was all right? Said, well, what did you expect

459
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 1: you think you're gonna be up there jam in the

460
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: one oh five, you know, man? He goes, yeah, but

461
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 1: I didn't expect, you know, to be you know, stucky

462
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: to see with a seatbelt for ten solid hour. We

463
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 1: get up and move around and see talk to guys

464
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: and see what guys were doing, you know. I mean

465
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 1: they didn't fire the entire mission. So he was, well, well, yeah,

466
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,959
Speaker 1: i'd be upset too. Yeah, I didn't want to do that,

467
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 1: you know, ten hours like it's been doing something better anyway. Yeah,

468
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: we we don't get a gunship. We were like the

469
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: grease monkeys of the gunship. So we were the ones

470
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: that were like the you know, enlisted men playing jokes

471
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,880
Speaker 1: on everybody else in there crew. So so they had

472
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: they had like the booth is what we called it.

473
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: And that's where you have your your ir operator, you know,

474
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 1: all your people with the cross hairs, your you know,

475
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: fire control officer, your navigator. That's where you had all

476
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: the h the other guys. And then yeah, those guys

477
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 1: are strapped to that seat for hours on end during

478
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 1: missions and then the only time they get up because

479
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,439
Speaker 1: when they go to the bathroom, it's pretty much like

480
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: a stand up stall. I'm sure you've been on the

481
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 1: seat one thirties. It's that one in the back right

482
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,479
Speaker 1: just after the right parachute doors. So that's pretty much

483
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 1: what we have. Yeah, I have a funny story about that.

484
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:35,199
Speaker 1: I probably shouldn't tell about that sword, but um, but

485
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 1: I don't know back then that you know, that was

486
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: the was that nineties, late eighties, early nineties and early

487
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 1: nice already, So I don't know what they're like, s

488
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,199
Speaker 1: ops were, but we definitely didn't you know, let our

489
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: right along sit in one place and you can move around,

490
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 1: you know. Um, we had our own it's called gunner ice,

491
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 1: So we had our own like I. So, so we

492
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: had calms so we can just talk to the gunner

493
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: and the load master, so we would be able to talk.

494
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 1: We wouldn't be able to talk to the booth unless

495
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: we went into the booth and plugged into their eyes.

496
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: So so so we would let them you know, go where

497
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: they want, you know, plug in, you know, just chill out.

498
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: We always had like rat packed m R E unfortunately

499
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 1: you know, like just you know, making conversation. It was

500
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 1: always don't get me wrong, it was always fun. Probably

501
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: more fun to be on the gun deck um than

502
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 1: anywhere else in the aircraft. No offense to those guys,

503
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 1: but is that saying, you know, it's always funner with

504
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: the gunner. So yeah, and I mean that was our

505
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 1: whole point to get on the ride, as we wanted

506
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: to rub elbows with the crew, you know what, they

507
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: had to stay and uh, I just didn't work out

508
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: that way. And another thing they did that kind of

509
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 1: caught me off. Guards wouldn't. The specter did lay down

510
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 1: on the tarmac at one time on Graham, and they

511
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: laid out on a row of one of five shelves

512
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: of car Caseys rather right, and the casings were decorated

513
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 1: to the little bit and they had you know, uh

514
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: the spooky emblem monitor with the bantry with fire coming

515
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 1: off his back of his head, and there were some

516
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: of those things. That's so you be here at all.

517
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,199
Speaker 1: Not it's just deployed like they had. They had the

518
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,199
Speaker 1: shelves and had engraved on them. Yeah, they well they

519
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: had engraved or overlaid something or painted decorated, you know,

520
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: as a souvenir momentum of you know. They they were

521
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: so okay, I see what you're saying. So it wasn't

522
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: like laid out in the combat mission or anything like that.

523
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with a combat mission. So yeah, yeah,

524
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 1: so they do Colleck Brass. You know, I have a

525
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: couple of I have a couple of buddies in there now.

526
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: I believe at this point it's usually off and on.

527
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: They you're able to collect it. You know, maybe you're

528
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: not able to collect it. You know, it always changed,

529
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: but right now you can't collect it. Those guys from

530
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: the squadron that collected they have a scene c machine.

531
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: They're able to do cool stuff. I have a one

532
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: oh five stein, so it's like a bottom. It's like

533
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: a bottom of a one oh five top of a

534
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: one oh five. I even then, I got a twenty

535
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: five millimeter handle on it. I mean, it's you can't

536
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,719
Speaker 1: use it. It's top heavy. It's nice. But yeah, they

537
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: do certain stuff. You know, I got a lot of

538
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: cool stuff out of there. But yeah, there's some guys

539
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: who are doing their own machining and stuff like that

540
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: on the side, and they can be part of that.

541
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: And the squadron. I was going to transition to your

542
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: transition from the military and into law enforcement. So how

543
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: is it was it? It was a kind of rough transition.

544
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: So you know, usually when you get out of the

545
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: military and you make a lot of good you know,

546
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: friends and the commodities there, and you get out and

547
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: you know time keeps going for you. It's like time

548
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: to stop, but you know your squadron keeps going going,

549
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: everybody keeps deploying, your friends, you know, keep going. It

550
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: was a little hard to kind of like come face

551
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: to face with that, and I don't really didn't find myself.

552
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: So it was like I got out of the military

553
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: so excited to get out just because you know, there's

554
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: a lot of different things. I don't want to go

555
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,719
Speaker 1: into it. But when I got out, I started like, actually,

556
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,719
Speaker 1: we want a little bit. During the like the end

557
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: of my military career, I started like brewing beer as

558
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: a hobby. I started like selling myself to like different

559
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: craft beer places, and the uh, I end up getting

560
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: hired at a World of Beer. I'm not sure where

561
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: you guys are at, but we have those here. I

562
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: end up getting hired as a bartender and they had

563
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: a brew class. I got to brew beer on the side.

564
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: He's people how to brew beer. So I was like,

565
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: you know, happy that I was going nowhere in life unfortunately,

566
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: but you know, I was really good at what I

567
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: was doing. So I became a bartender and then I

568
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: end up getting assistant manager and product manager within a

569
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: couple of years if that. So I got to go

570
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: to all the events and stuff like that, and then

571
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: you know, I kind of looked at myself life. You

572
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: know what am I doing? Brew Beer is fun? Working

573
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: with beer is definitely fun. But I was drinking a

574
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: lot more less exercising, so I decided to get out

575
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: of that. So I end up working at a gun

576
00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: shop selling tactical firearms. Damn. Yeah. So I got to

577
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: work at jobs that I liked, like it was my

578
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: hobby is like a hobby. I would like, Okay, let's

579
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: what job can you know tie into this hobby? So

580
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: I started selling tactical firearms, really going nowhere again. And

581
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: then after that I started getting into like automotive stuff.

582
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: You know, who doesn't like doing her own little change?

583
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: So I started working at an automotive place. And then

584
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: one of my family members friends who used to work

585
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: at the jail with my mom, you know, why don't

586
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: She's like, why don't you join law enforcement? And I

587
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: always want to be military, and I guess I never

588
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: really thought about it, you know, and I missed that,

589
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: you know, paramilitary type of field. So I was like,

590
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: you know, why not? So I put in for my

591
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: local Sheriff's office at like the bare min A moment,

592
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: they have a position called pSTS Public service technician, so

593
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: you pretty much take calls for service that are like

594
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: no bad guys are at So it was really boring,

595
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: but definitely, um, definitely useful information for what I wanted

596
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: to do. So I had like a pepper spray. I

597
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: never had a firearm, you know, so it's like, you know,

598
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: you take this guy out of the military and you

599
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: can pepper spray. And I actually used my g I

600
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: bill to go to the academy and I cut my

601
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: hours down part time. Once I was done with the academy,

602
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: wait a couple of lines, they end up picking me up.

603
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: The same agency picked me up for his deputy and man,

604
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: that was I mean, being a deputy is its great?

605
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: I love my job. I started getting into so I started,

606
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: you know, finding out what my niche was as a

607
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: patrolled deputy, and it was definitely narcotics. So I was

608
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: one of the more proactive deputies. You know. I didn't

609
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: take any ship and I made people pretty much hand

610
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: over their dope willingly, and that took him to jail.

611
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: And then I end up getting recognition for a lot

612
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: of that, and you know, a lot of that stuff

613
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: was you know, I had helped. You know, I had

614
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: a lot of buddies, a good good team. You know,

615
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: a lot of my best friends are on the same

616
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: squad as me, so we worked as a team. Man.

617
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean, I have like best friends from

618
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: the military, but I definitely have a close bond with

619
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: the guys I work with now. So then I end

620
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: up getting picked up for a proactive unit, so pretty

621
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: much you know, riding on mark vehicles, you know, watching

622
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: drug houses, pulling people leaving drug houses, getting drugs. You know.

623
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: So I gotta say that I missed the military, but

624
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: the law enforcement career is definitely a nice definitely a

625
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: nice niche for me right now. So that's pretretty much

626
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: my transition. It was a little rough. You know. I

627
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: went through beer, firearms and in cars and trucks, and

628
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: but I got too funny where I uh, you know,

629
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: I got. I'm set up for a good career. Yeah,

630
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: thirty years retirement. It's a little longer than the twenty

631
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: that I should have probably stayed in for the military.

632
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: But no regrets, you know. Yeah, that's I'll tell you, man.

633
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: I think the best way I could relate to on

634
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: that being patrol deputy on in a proactive unit. We

635
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: got to do some building climbing in New Orleans one year.

636
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: We've dealta and we had to two nights office what

637
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: they gave it, and they offered us to be able

638
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: to do it ride along with those PA cars pro

639
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: active cars, you know that we're unmarked and and uh

640
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: we rode around him the first night, and I think

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Speaker 1: that that was about as much adventure as I was

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Speaker 1: I have ever had in the military or otherwise, and

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Speaker 1: so much so that we elected to take the second

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Speaker 1: night and ride along with them again, just because it

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Speaker 1: was that much, that much fun. We've so many rules,

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Speaker 1: but he did this. Did the guy a will show

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Speaker 1: you something? You know? Proactive that night? Dude, it was

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Speaker 1: non stop. Man. It was like it was like a

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Speaker 1: dance card. You know, you're done with this and go

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Speaker 1: onto the next thing. There was like no lulls. That's awesome.

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Speaker 1: We were just I mean, I can't even We were

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Speaker 1: busting into you know, places, apartments and searching them, man,

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Speaker 1: just chasing people's That's what they did is they just

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Speaker 1: tool through neighborhood to anybody that looked at him wrong,

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Speaker 1: they grabbed him, or if they started running, then the

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Speaker 1: ship was on. It was fun, isn't it. Man? I

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Speaker 1: love this job. Un freaking believable. Man. I love what

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Speaker 1: I do. And then like, for selfish reasons, you know,

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Speaker 1: I get that adrenaline. I get to do fun stuff,

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Speaker 1: but the same, you know, at the same you know,

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Speaker 1: token I get to serve my own community. I get

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Speaker 1: to take these guys off the street, you know. So

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Speaker 1: it's it's it's definitely an all around good situation that

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Speaker 1: I'm in right now. Roger that man, I mean, you

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Speaker 1: know Star Wars. You look at this, he has the

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Speaker 1: most cool guy dude career of anybody. You know. He's

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Speaker 1: got military, he's got here, got guns, got cars, got cops.

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Speaker 1: Check it out. So it sounds it sounds like a

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Speaker 1: movie plot. What's next though? Yeah, I was like, nobody

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Speaker 1: could be all those things in one lifetime. Yeah, but Brandon,

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Speaker 1: did I appreciate that? Man? Yeah? I mean I've I've

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Speaker 1: had a great life, great family support, great friends support.

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Speaker 1: I really couldn't for ask, you know, ask for anything more.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully there's no next thing, you know from this. I

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Speaker 1: love my job. I'm a detective now, I just love

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Speaker 1: what I do, and I'm starting to branch off a

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Speaker 1: little bit, and I'm seeing a lot of the you know,

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Speaker 1: X special Forces do a lot of training, you know,

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Speaker 1: their own training um brands and their own training type

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Speaker 1: of you know, courses. So I'm already thinking about retirement,

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Speaker 1: which is pretty far along the way twenty five years.

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Speaker 1: I guess we're talking um that would probably be something

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Speaker 1: that I could look at myself doing if I end

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Speaker 1: up having the traits of an instructor, you know, because

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Speaker 1: there's there's people out there who could do the job,

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Speaker 1: and there's people out there who could tease the job.

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Speaker 1: So I'm hoping, you know, once my stint's over and

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Speaker 1: if I still want to work, which I'm sure I do,

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Speaker 1: there's no MAKEE sit at home. Hopefully I have the

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Speaker 1: skills to teach the job. So I can't imagine you're

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Speaker 1: not being Yeah, I wasn't ft O, which is a

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Speaker 1: field training officer in law enforcement. I do like teaching,

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Speaker 1: but I also, you know, that's just me thinking and

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Speaker 1: I want to kind of get feedback from everybody else.

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Speaker 1: So it doesn't work out, It doesn't work out, but

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Speaker 1: nice when Brandon, thank you very much for joining us

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Speaker 1: for this episode of so for the podcast. That's my flush, man,

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Speaker 1: it was it was great bad to sit down with

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Speaker 1: with with a specter crew, but branded of all people

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Speaker 1: and with that with that ground. Wow, that's pretty that's

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Speaker 1: pretty solid. Yeah, I appreciate a guys, because yeah, this

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Speaker 1: was definitely a great opportunity. You know, I just recently

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Speaker 1: started subscribing to soft rep. At first, I was using

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Speaker 1: your guys app reading articles, and the articles I wanted

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Speaker 1: to read I couldn't because I had to buy them.

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Speaker 1: And then next thing I know, I'm like, you know what,

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Speaker 1: let's just try it. And I don't have any regrets.

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Speaker 1: You guys, you guys, you guys push some good, good

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Speaker 1: content through so that thanks. Man. It's nice to hear

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Speaker 1: that people appreciate the content. Good out. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: only problem I've had so far is that if I

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Speaker 1: already read the most up to date article and like

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Speaker 1: ten minutes, I want to read another one, and I

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Speaker 1: go back to the app and I see the same article.

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Speaker 1: It's a little it's a little upsetting, but you know,

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Speaker 1: you guys are only human, So I'll wait, I'll wait

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Speaker 1: for the next one. That's a that's a good delema

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Speaker 1: to being Yeah, but I definitely appreciate you guys having me.

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