1 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to laking Is Live this Sunday night, November twenty seventh, 2 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: The over Lord twenty twenty two, and hear that no 3 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: matter how hard some of you try, this game cannot 4 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: be playing on paper, and a lesson continues to be 5 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: taught weekend and week out jam packed. We are high 6 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: atap a confused downtown Nashville, Tennessee. Why because the game 7 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: is not played on paper and there were a lot 8 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: of expectations going into Rivalry Saturday that did not exactly 9 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: pan out. I have got a lot to say about 10 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: Michigan versus Ohio State, a TVMA special in Columbus, Ohio yesterday. 11 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: We were there, We were on the sidelines for it. 12 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: We will discuss momentarily full Week thirteen reaction. I mean, 13 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: I'll go all the way back to Friday night. There 14 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: was some things that happened Friday night that I want 15 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: to discuss. There's plenty that happened yesterday. Don't miss this show. 16 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: This is not one to fast forward through. There is 17 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: a lot of meat on the bone. 18 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: Tonight. 19 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 3: Playoff could get put in a blender here now. Chalk holds. 20 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 3: Chalk holds, and I'm just wrong. But if anybody slips 21 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 3: up this week, as this sport is prone to have happen, 22 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 3: A healthy debate, scratch that, a very toxic debate will 23 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 3: unfold between the Bamas of the world and the Ohio 24 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 3: States of the world and the one lost non conference 25 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 3: champs of the world. 26 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 2: It could be gross. 27 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 3: We're gonna be here for it, though tons of coaching intel. 28 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 3: I've got my cell phone, my eye Josh turned face 29 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 3: up as opposed to the usual face down, because there's 30 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 3: stuff happening even during our show as we speak, so 31 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 3: I don't want to miss out. And if I have 32 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 3: things that I can pass along to you, I sure will. 33 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 3: Newport News, Virginia, they're watching us there. We appreciate that 34 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 3: they're watching and listening. In Jacksonville, Florida. I don't know 35 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 3: what happened to you guys's mascot there on the NFL level, 36 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 3: but in the college level, lot of fans that we 37 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 3: have down that way Durant, Oklahoma tuned in Grand Rapids, Michigan. 38 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 3: Probably a fun time up there, at least for the 39 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 3: Wolverine side of the fence yesterday. I can't stress enough 40 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 3: as we dive into the show tonight, how imperative it 41 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 3: is to be following the social channels at Late Kick Josh. 42 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 3: It's the same on Instagram as it is on Twitter. 43 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 3: You get different things on different platforms. But there is 44 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 3: a lot in addition to what I give you on 45 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 3: the show and the podcast that is especially pop in 46 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 3: this time of year. This time of year, the overlap 47 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 3: of conference championship week, coaching hot seats and coaching firings 48 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 3: and hirings, and also we have recruiting that's about to 49 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 3: really really heat up. Transfer portal season as we speak, 50 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 3: is really heating up. It doesn't all happen nice and 51 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 3: neatly right before our show, So make sure you're tuned 52 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 3: in there. Okay, let's dive in because we got so 53 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 3: many different places to go. The show could be four 54 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 3: hours tonight. It won't be, but I'm just saying it 55 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 3: could be. We could make it for if we wanted to. 56 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 3: But Collin's got to get home, he's got to bedtime. 57 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 3: Why don't we play these games? It's a question I'm 58 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 3: going to ask you a lot tonight, Colin. 59 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 2: Here's a better endpoint. 60 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 3: Why do we play these games? These college football games? 61 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 3: They look so nice and neat on paper. Why do 62 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 3: we play them well. Michigan forty five, Ohio State twenty three. 63 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 3: That's one reason why we play the games. I guess 64 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 3: Buck guys about a seven and a half or an 65 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 3: eight point favorite going into this game. I was on 66 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 3: the field for this. As you can imagine, it was 67 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 3: pretty jarring to witness. Pales in comparison to how jarring 68 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,679 Speaker 3: it was for the Ohio State players. I want to 69 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 3: start from the back and then want to work my 70 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 3: way to the front. After these games. Normally, what I'll 71 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 3: do is I'll go to a postgame press conference. I 72 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 3: actually went to Ryan Day's postgame press conference yesterday, and 73 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 3: then we'll go back out on the natural playing surface 74 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 3: of the stadium and we'll do some live hits for CBS. 75 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 3: So I did that yesterday. Two things I probably will 76 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 3: never forget. Number one, how defeated and how stunned. Ryan 77 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 3: Day was handled himself fine postgame, just saying, these folks 78 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 3: thought they were about to double digit blow out in Michigan. 79 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: They thought they were going to run all over them. 80 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 3: They thought they were gonna dictate every term in that 81 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 3: football game yesterday. That's not just the fan base that 82 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 3: staff fully believed, that fully believed it. 83 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 2: A lot of folks believed it. 84 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 3: The second part, and what I will really remember is 85 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,799 Speaker 3: when I went back out there, several of those Ohio 86 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 3: State players didn't leave the stadium immediately. 87 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: They went to the locker room. But after the place 88 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 2: it cleaned out. 89 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 3: You know, we see things you don't see, and one 90 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 3: of the things is, man, a lot of those players, 91 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 3: especially the ones who were wearing that uniform for the 92 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 3: last time they're back out there. Some of them are 93 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 3: just sitting on the field. Some of them are up 94 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 3: in the stands just sobbing. It was pretty somber. But 95 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 3: that's sports man, that's competition, and so it's beautiful if 96 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 3: you're a Michigan fan. It's gut wrenching if you're an 97 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 3: Ohio State fan. But when this thing started to go 98 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 3: the way it did, and I'm going to talk a 99 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 3: lot about it, but when it started to go the 100 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 3: way it did, I'm sure a lot of people thought 101 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 3: a lot of things. But when Michigan started to pull away, 102 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 3: especially in the second half, one of the images my 103 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 3: mind went back to is when we were down in 104 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 3: Miami last year, not in ann Arbor, not when they 105 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 3: beat Ohio State, when they had punched their ticket to 106 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,239 Speaker 3: the playoff and they went to Miami and they lost 107 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 3: to Georgia. We were there. I think I talked about 108 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 3: this on the show. Colin correct me if I'm wrong. 109 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 3: I think I told you, but I haven't mentioned it 110 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 3: since then. After that place kind of cleaned out. A 111 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 3: lot of the Michigan fans had already left. 112 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 2: It was a blowout game. 113 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 3: And then the game's over and they're starting to do 114 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 3: the trophy presentation on the field. A lot of the 115 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 3: young guys from Michigan. I really noticed this because it 116 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 3: was right next to me. They stayed on the field 117 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 3: and they didn't say a word. They weren't being demonstrative. 118 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 3: They weren't you looking to draw attention to themselves. Quite 119 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 3: the opposite. They were kind of standing over in the 120 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 3: corner and they just stood there and watched. JJ McCarthy 121 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 3: was one of them. Donovan Edwards was one of them. 122 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 3: Contributors to Yesterday's when they just stayed there and watched, 123 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 3: And I remember looking at that and I remember thinking 124 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 3: to myself, it's a shame a lot of Michigan fans 125 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 3: can't see this, because they probably love it. Because what 126 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 3: is the nucleus of your future hopes. In games like 127 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 3: we saw yesterday, they kind of look like they get 128 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 3: it here and there they were about eleven months later 129 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 3: on the field yesterday, and boy did they do some 130 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 3: special things. How do unbelievable results happen? This is where 131 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 3: I want to dive into this whole paper versus real 132 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 3: life thing, because on paper, the reason I have such 133 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 3: a problem with a lot of people telling you what 134 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 3: they think would happen on a neutral field or who 135 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 3: would be favored, is not that that's not a proper 136 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 3: way to power rate teams, but it's not competition. I 137 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 3: do power ratings, but then I freely tell you that's 138 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 3: not competition. The beautiful thing about games like this is 139 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,799 Speaker 3: you know they're coming. Michigan did not have to really 140 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 3: argue their point the whole year. If you're a Michigan 141 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 3: fan from lent Or Sue Saint Marie. Most people from 142 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 3: Georgia can't say that properly, Salt Saint Marie from my 143 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 3: friends and Fortsune, you listened the entire year as folks 144 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 3: talked about Ohio State being better than you, and you 145 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 3: got to go to Columbus and they'll be favored and 146 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 3: they should win by this many points. 147 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 2: But it was never a problem. 148 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 3: Why because you knew you were going to eventually arrive 149 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 3: at that day, and that day was yesterday, and it 150 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 3: didn't happen on a piece of paper, It happened on 151 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 3: a playing surface. How was Michigan going to pull off 152 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 3: the upset? Well, it's quite simple, but it's also a 153 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 3: little more nuanced than how simple it is to say 154 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 3: to pull off something impossible, all a team has to 155 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 3: do is do things that they haven't done all season. 156 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 3: There's a big difference between have not and cannot. And 157 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 3: if you watched the Thursday edition of Late Kick, this 158 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 3: does not sound foreign to you. Colin, get the sound ready, 159 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 3: three to one roll it. I am looking at Michigan 160 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 3: and the question I would love to see answered in 161 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 3: the definitive for them is does their passing game show up? 162 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 3: I gotta be honest with you, Like I've been sky 163 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 3: high on them all year. I've been a little disappointed 164 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 3: in the development or lack thereof, in what I thought 165 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 3: was going to be a great receiver room for them 166 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 3: this year. But here's the thing. Going into a game 167 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 3: like this, the guys are still there. Ronnie Bell's still 168 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 3: in there. The potential and the reasons I thought that 169 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 3: room had potential, they're still there. It just takes one 170 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 3: four quarter game. It just takes two or three explosive 171 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 3: plays in a four quarter game for you to think 172 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 3: about the rest of. 173 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 2: The year and say, who cares. 174 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 3: We won the games without them doing it, but boy, 175 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 3: when they did it on this Saturday, that's when we 176 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 3: needed it the most. So I'm thinking about that five 177 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 3: of them, five plays of forty five yards or more. 178 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 3: I think four of them of sixty nine yards or more. 179 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 3: That's all it took. That's the difference in the game. 180 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 3: You can break them down nine ways from Sunday, and 181 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 3: we kind of will in just a second. But that 182 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 3: was the long and short of it. Had you seen 183 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 3: that all year number one and seen it from Michigan, 184 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 3: you hadn't seen them bomb away. You hadn't seen them 185 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 3: take the top off a defense. I would argue Ohio 186 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 3: State kind of took their own top off by not 187 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 3: having the top. But they played the game that was 188 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 3: put in front of them, which is really beautiful. 189 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 2: And it's also simple. 190 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 3: The game that was put in front of them is 191 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 3: Ohio State decided we're not letting Blake Corean beat us. 192 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 3: Now what was funny is Blake Koran was in there 193 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 3: for about three seconds and then he's done the rest 194 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 3: of the afternoon, and Ohio State still decided they were 195 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 3: going to play as if to not let Blake corn 196 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 3: beat them. And so you got McCarthy back there, and 197 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 3: you got the Michigan offensive brain trust saying do we 198 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 3: really see what we think we're seeing? Okay, Like, if 199 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 3: that's what they're gonna give us, we're gonna do this. 200 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 3: As you're watching on b roll, just have guys run 201 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 3: free in the secondary like it at various points yesterday 202 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 3: looked like Alabama circa DeVante Smith and Jerry Judy. And 203 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 3: this is a Michigan passing attack that, as I said, 204 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 3: and as many of you Michigan fans had said going 205 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 3: into this game, had left al little something to be desired. Well, 206 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 3: it was always there. As I said Thursday, you just listen, 207 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 3: as I'll repeat now, there are teams that have the 208 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 3: capability to do things they just haven't done. Sometimes they 209 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 3: choose not to do them. Sometimes for whatever reason, they 210 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 3: have misfired execution wise, but that never means in a 211 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 3: one game scenario. It couldn't happen. Texas A and M 212 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 3: did some stuff against LSU yesterday. We hadn't seen them 213 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 3: do all year, But it turns out they were capable 214 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 3: of it. JJ McCarthy twelve of twenty four, two sixty three, 215 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 3: A lot of the a lot of I guess the 216 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 3: correlating stat lines outside of those explosive plays look very ordinary. 217 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 3: But here's the thing that doesn't matter, because the explosive 218 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 3: plays count just as much as the gain for no 219 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 3: yards on second and two, and the explosive plays changed 220 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 3: the game. So Michigan, I so vividly remember looking at 221 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 3: the box score, the live box score, as we're approaching 222 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 3: the half, and they've got a seventeen to thirteen lead 223 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 3: near the half, and they were averaging zero point one 224 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 3: yards per carry. 225 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 2: If you're Ohio State, do you. 226 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 3: Not have to be ecstatic about that because what you 227 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 3: set out to do is exactly what's happening. You're stoning 228 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 3: them at the line of scrimmage. Now, it turned out 229 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 3: that that wasn't gonna last. But Ryan Day even said 230 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 3: in this postgame it felt like we fought in the 231 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 3: first half. We liked where we had him in the 232 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 3: first half. And yet there's Michigan seventeen thirteen League. I 233 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 3: think Ohio State led by three at the break. But 234 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 3: the most stunning thing, as I said, for me to watch, 235 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 3: is not Michigan popping one big play or popping maybe 236 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 3: one more big play. It's the total lack of any 237 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 3: kind of adjustment. I'm not saying adjustments weren't made in theory. 238 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 3: I'm saying on the whole I'm saying, overarching game philosophy, 239 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 3: there was really no defensive adjustment made, and Michigan took 240 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 3: advantage of it. 241 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 2: It was lethal the way they took advantage of it. 242 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 3: Recruiting matters, okay matters, and cohesion matters. But JJ McCarthy 243 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 3: is an elite quarterback playing back there Donovan Edwards when 244 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 3: they did start to break big runs, that's an elite 245 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 3: running back. I remember sitting I remember a lot of 246 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 3: things on the show so far. I remember sitting there 247 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 3: on our signing day show when that kid's incoming as 248 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 3: a true freshman and they're fighting Ohio State and Notre 249 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 3: Dame and they get him, and we spent like twenty 250 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 3: minutes talking about Donovan Edwards, and you know what my 251 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 3: dms looked like afterwards a disaster. We got criticized. I 252 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 3: got criticized for talking about Donovan Edwards too much. Well, hey, 253 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 3: Coorum couldn't go yesterday. Edwards had one hand. Donovan Edwards 254 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 3: might as well have been like a pirate, you know, 255 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 3: with like a little hook on his other hand. Didn't matter, 256 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 3: didn't matter because he had two feet. They weren't just 257 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 3: fine and he could have run to Toledo, Ohio if 258 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 3: they didn't build that end zone where he physically couldn't 259 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 3: go any further. Because when he got loose, man, he 260 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 3: really got loose. They never adjusted, They never took it 261 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 3: away into Michigan's credit. They kept taking and taken. There's 262 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 3: a misconception I think about this team, this Michigan program, 263 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 3: because you can go so many directions with this. I 264 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 3: don't need to read you the box scoring. You know 265 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 3: what the box score says. You know what your eyes 266 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 3: saw yesterday. You know about the big plays through the air, 267 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 3: you know about the big plays on the ground. You 268 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 3: know that when Ohio State looked like they had answered 269 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 3: and they pulled within one possession, it lasted one play. 270 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,479 Speaker 3: Michigan rips another one off and brother that sideline exploded. 271 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 3: When that happened, I was over there, and here's the 272 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 3: thing about Michigan, or here's a thing about Michigan. 273 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 2: What do you think? 274 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 3: I'll ask you before I give you my take on this. 275 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 3: What do you think when I just say Michigan football? 276 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 3: Is it something that's changing or do you have a 277 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 3: pretty set opinion on them? But I'm asking you think 278 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 3: in your mind you may be watching live or watching 279 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 3: the replayer or listening to the podcast. What do you 280 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 3: think when I say Michigan football? Because I think there's 281 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 3: a little misconception out there because of the way they 282 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 3: carried themselves. Confidence is not always as it seems. Let 283 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 3: me put it that way. A lot of the attributes 284 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 3: that you associate with confidence actually don't correlate with confidence 285 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 3: at all. 286 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 2: A lot of people think a confident. 287 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 3: Person is really brash and really in your face, and 288 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 3: they call themselves alphas like four or five times per hour. 289 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 3: That's not what real confidence is. Confidence is Michigan. Confidence 290 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 3: is Jim Harball. Michigan is the most confident program in 291 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 3: the Big Ten. Harball is the most confident coach in 292 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 3: the Big Ten. It's not because they run their mouth. 293 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 3: They rarely do. It's not because they're a very demonstrative pregame. 294 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 3: I stood there and watched them warming up yesterday. I 295 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 3: don't think I heard many other players say a word. 296 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 3: That's not what confidence is. Confidence is being totally comfortable 297 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 3: and resolute. 298 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 2: In whatever your philosophy is. 299 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 3: And if you think about Jim Harbaugh, that's him to 300 00:14:55,640 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 3: a team. That dude listened for years to people honestly 301 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 3: like me. Look at him and say, I don't think 302 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 3: this offense is going to work in modern college football. 303 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 3: Look at all these other programs around you. Look at 304 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 3: the quarterbacks they have, Look at the perimeter skill talent 305 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 3: they have. 306 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 2: How will you ever keep up with him? 307 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 3: He never changed. There's a fine line between cerebral and stubborn, 308 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 3: between confidence and just stupidity. He's on the right side 309 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 3: of it, though Michigan's on the right side of it. 310 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 3: They never flinched. That's what confidence is. That program never flinched, 311 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 3: and not just yesterday and not just last year. They 312 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 3: never flinched even when things weren't necessarily going their way, 313 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 3: and even when there was warranted criticism because the results 314 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 3: weren't what they should be. They are so confident because 315 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 3: their process is so proven that he can afford to 316 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 3: try and get the Vikings job, fail lose, both of 317 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 3: his coordinators have to totally check back in replace them. 318 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 3: Chose to go a different direction at quarterback, chose to 319 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 3: go with JJ McCarthy over Kaid McNamara, And the net 320 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 3: result is his team's better this year than it was 321 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 3: last year. And I thought that the entire season. They 322 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 3: just validated it yesterday. That's confidence. Confidence in how many 323 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 3: bands you put on your arm. It's not what you 324 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 3: draw an EyeBlack on your face. It's being able to 325 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 3: carry yourself and not flinching because you know your ways 326 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 3: the way Michigan's weighs the way. That's the best team 327 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 3: in the Big Ten. Right now, here's the thing about 328 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 3: the program. The program is now proving itself potentially is 329 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 3: the best program in the Big Ten. And I am very, 330 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 3: very slow to ever say things like that, because I 331 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 3: got immense amounts of respect for Ohio State. One outcome 332 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 3: in a game rarely drastically tilts my opinion of that. 333 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 3: So it's not like I'm vastly downgrading Ohio State here. 334 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about them in just a second. 335 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 3: I just think the world of what Michigan's doing, and 336 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 3: I think that their talent levels kind of crept up 337 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 3: on folks. I think that folks look at McCarthy maybe 338 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 3: up until yesterday, and you thought of him as just 339 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:09,479 Speaker 3: another Michigan quarterback. Now, people who follow recruiting, you know 340 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 3: that's a different skill level. He possesses a different skill level. 341 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 3: But most people don't follow it that hardcore. So you 342 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 3: just look at McCarthy and think, hey, another he's another 343 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 3: Michigan quarterback. 344 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 2: No, he's not. 345 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 3: He's the best they've had up there. He's the best 346 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 3: Harball has had during his tenure there. 347 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 2: Domin Edwards. 348 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 3: Likewise, in the backfield, they're playing with that their top 349 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 3: player yesterday, guys, and they still hang forty five. 350 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 2: They had so many points. 351 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 3: When I was in the media scrum post game, half 352 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 3: the folks didn't even realize they had topped forty. They 353 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 3: thought thirty eight. 354 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 2: Was the number. 355 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 3: Michigan just kind of tacked on another touchdown, why because 356 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 3: they could, Why not rip off another eighty plus yard touchdown. 357 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 3: Ohio State had the entire table set yesterday. We talk 358 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 3: about the winners first here, and I just talked about Michigan, 359 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 3: and I'll talk about him again later in the week. 360 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 2: But there's also aide of this. 361 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 3: There's also a loser in the equation, and the loser yesterday, 362 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 3: in emphatic fashion, was Ohio State. And what hurts, aside 363 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 3: from losing the game is what it comes on the 364 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 3: heels of last year. 365 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 2: We were in an arbor for that game. 366 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 3: The whole world watched this game last year. But the 367 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 3: thing about it is, if you wanted to, really, if 368 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 3: you admit it to yourself, you could make excuses for 369 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 3: Ohio State last year. 370 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 2: If you wanted to, you could. 371 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 3: Tell yourself the team was banged up. I think they 372 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 3: were sick. You know, Hoops amongst us hasn't had that happen. 373 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 3: But it was snowing. I can assure you it was 374 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 3: miserable up there. And I know what the counter is. 375 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 3: You don't have to tell me both teams played in it. 376 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 2: I know that. 377 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 3: My point is, if you're trying to play Devil's advocate, 378 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 3: you're trying to make excuses for a team, and admit 379 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 3: that you're doing that. Yes, you could just say, all right, 380 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,719 Speaker 3: blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then, broken 381 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 3: clocks right, twice a day, and Michigan was eventually going 382 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 3: to get Ohio State. It was just the perfect confluence 383 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 3: of events last year. Whatever last year was in the 384 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 3: favor of Michigan, it all was inverted this time around. 385 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 3: The entire table was set for Ohio State. Yesterday forecast 386 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 3: looked gross seven days ago. It ends up being fifty 387 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 3: five and sunny. I wore short sleeves for a majority 388 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 3: of this afternoon. You had a big recruiting weekend on 389 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 3: tap Jim Knowles. You got the defensive replacement that you 390 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 3: needed last year, So theoretically those big plays weren't gonna 391 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 3: bite you like they did last year. You certainly had 392 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 3: the revenge angle to sell your kids. You got home field. 393 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 3: Michigan is limited offensively this year, plus their best player, 394 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 3: as it turns out, is out of the game after 395 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 3: a couple of plays. 396 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 2: And you get drug. 397 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 3: Anyway, you get pantsed anyway, just embarrassed, just drug, And 398 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 3: that's kind of stunning, and that makes you do some 399 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 3: soul searching. And the thing about it when that happens 400 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 3: is it's he's so demoralizing. You don't have an immediate answer. 401 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 3: Everybody wants to know one thing what's the one thing. Well, 402 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 3: there was no one thing. There is no one thing 403 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 3: that contributes to something like that. It's a collection of 404 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 3: a number of things, and you're not immediately ready to. 405 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 2: Admit it afterwards. 406 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 3: And Ryan Day was not immediately ready. He was not argumentative. 407 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 3: He was, in fact, very defeated and very somber, as 408 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 3: any of us would be in that position in his 409 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 3: post game yesterday. But I don't know who asked the question, 410 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 3: although there were two feet in front of me, but 411 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 3: someone started to ask him about Jim Knowles, defensive coordinator. 412 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 3: And sometimes someone's asking such a good question, you can 413 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 3: see the body language from the coach mid question, they realize, oh. 414 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 2: Man, this guy's right. 415 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 3: And when Ryan Day was getting asked, I'm going to 416 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 3: paraphrase the question, but the question was something like, you 417 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 3: got victimized by big plays last year, so you went 418 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 3: and got Jim Knowles to bring him in to rectify that, 419 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 3: and yet big plays killed you today even more than 420 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 3: they did last year. 421 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 2: What's your response to that. 422 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 3: Midway through that question, he kind of goes wow, and 423 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,199 Speaker 3: he slumps his shoulders and he looks down and he 424 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 3: just starts to shake his head and he realized, yes, right, 425 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 3: I sure did, and he's right. They sure did bite 426 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 3: us today every bit as much. And he gave a 427 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 3: pretty standard answer. You know, you got to reassess. You 428 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 3: got to watch the film. I know he's got to 429 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 3: make changes. He knows he has to make changes. Now, 430 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 3: that's the easy part to say. 431 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 2: What are the changes? 432 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 3: What are the changes? Does he look internally? Does he 433 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 3: look at himself? Does he regret not going for it 434 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 3: when the entire stadium and his quarterback, namely is on 435 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 3: the field asking third and five, third and six, lists 436 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 3: fourth and five, fourth and six, let's go for it. 437 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 2: Does he regret that? 438 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 3: Does he regret you know, several other things from a 439 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 3: play calling perspective. Does he regret any of the hires? 440 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 3: Does he think strength and conditioning needs to be overhauled? 441 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 3: All of these things are holistically normally given as the 442 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 3: reason why someone lost. It could be ten percent of 443 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 3: ten different things need to be overhauled. 444 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 2: This is a very very good program. 445 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 3: So this is not a treasure or trash situation as 446 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 3: it's normally made out to be. Ryan Day, It's not 447 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 3: treasure versus trash. The reality is about ninety eight percent 448 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 3: of the sport is somewhere between treasure and trash, and 449 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 3: Ryan Day's between treasure and trash, a lot closer to 450 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 3: treasure than he is trash. 451 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 2: The Ohio State. 452 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 3: Program right now somewhere between it a lot closer to 453 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 3: treasure than they are trash. There was talk last night, 454 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 3: mind you, not by serious people, but there was talk 455 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 3: last night that we got to get him out of here. 456 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 2: I normally don't even entertain. 457 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 3: This foolishness, but it was so widespread I feel like 458 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 3: I need to at least entertain it, if to do 459 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 3: nothing more than bat it down. Ryan Day is one 460 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 3: of the best head coaches in America. Ohio State is 461 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 3: one of the best programs in America. They got soundly 462 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 3: beaten yesterday by also one of the best head coaches 463 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 3: in America, and also one of the best programs in America. 464 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say a sentence here, but you won't believe it. 465 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 3: It happens sometimes now. Ohio State fans should never accept that. 466 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 3: That coaching staff should never accept that, nor will they. 467 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 3: What I'm saying is you can go ahead and lose 468 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 3: it to him again next year, fire him if you 469 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 3: want to. And I was listening to Tom Fournelly talk 470 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 3: about this, and I don't think he's wrong. I think 471 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 3: there would be a big push to get rid of 472 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 3: Ryan Day next year if he were to lose to Michigan. 473 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 3: I'm not even gonna call your expectation level warped, because 474 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 3: the bottom line is you are one of two great 475 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 3: whites in your conference. 476 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 2: You played the other one yesterday. 477 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 3: Outside of that, you should soundly beat everybody that you play, 478 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 3: and so it really doesn't matter if you win ten 479 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 3: games or eleven games at Ohio State. If you lose 480 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 3: that one at the end of the year, it normally 481 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 3: means you're not gonna go play for the Big ten. Therefore, 482 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 3: you're not gonna go play for the national championship. And 483 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 3: you go oh for three on your goals, and this 484 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 3: is the second year in a row now that Ohio 485 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 3: State is going to go oh for three. And Collins 486 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 3: got a second piece of audio that I want to 487 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 3: play for you in just a second. But to tee 488 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 3: it up. Some people were taken aback nationally. I think 489 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 3: outside of the fan bases here, a lot of people 490 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 3: were taken by surprise that there was such a strong 491 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 3: and swift reaction this anti Ryan Day reaction, like, if 492 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 3: you guys have not trafficked in it, I'm not lying 493 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 3: to you when I say there is a non zero chunk, 494 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 3: like a sizeable chunk of the Ohio State fan base 495 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 3: that wants action taken against the head coach of the 496 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 3: program here, and if not the head coach, they want 497 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 3: sweeping changes made in the program. And you were taken 498 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 3: aback by that. For the reasons that I spoke about 499 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 3: last week, people simply had not allowed their mind to 500 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,239 Speaker 3: go there because everybody associated with that program thought they 501 00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 3: were going to beat Michigan comfortably. Yesterday, a big of 502 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 3: the nation thought that Ohio State was gonna beat Michigan comfortably. Therefore, 503 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 3: they had not allowed their mind to fathom what it 504 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 3: would be like if Ohio State lost. But on this show, 505 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 3: I had already gone there, and so it shouldn't have 506 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 3: been a surprise. 507 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 2: Colin, get it ready when this happened. 508 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 3: Do you understand how catastrophic that would be for Ryan Day? 509 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 3: Do you understand how catastrophic that would be, how big 510 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 3: a failure that would be for Ohio State football to 511 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 3: have had that collection of talent and two years in 512 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 3: a row be in a position to achieve all your 513 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 3: goals and have it wrecked by a Michigan team that 514 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 3: at one point you were dominating, and you got CJ. 515 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 3: Stroud at quarterback and you're not even going to play 516 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 3: for the Big Ten championship with him. Again, you got 517 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 3: a guy like Marvin Harrison. Heaven, in my minds, I 518 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 3: a blittan Akoff Award winning season right there with Jalen Hyatt, 519 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 3: and you're not even gonna play for the Big Ten 520 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 3: championship with him. Can you imagine those folks if they 521 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 3: lose that game. So there's pressure, there's always pressure, but man, 522 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 3: there's a different kind of pressure on Ohio State in 523 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 3: this game. That was the way it was always going 524 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 3: to be. It's totally over the cliff. It is burn 525 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 3: it to the ground and start over from scratch, and that, 526 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,360 Speaker 3: in reality, is not the answer. But I'm not surprised 527 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 3: that that's the reaction. They had no answers yesterday. So 528 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 3: now I do want to suggest one thing, because everyone 529 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 3: wants to talk about Michigan and could they win a 530 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 3: national championship? 531 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 2: I got a really short answer for you. 532 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, anybody who makes the playoff this year can 533 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,239 Speaker 3: win the national championship. And the reason I'm kind of 534 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 3: reserving my take on Michigan moving forward is because I'm 535 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 3: going to talk about it a lot this week, like 536 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 3: it's incredible what Jim Harbaugh is doing with Ohio State. 537 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 3: I will tell you one thing, I gotta be careful 538 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 3: with my words here because it's going to sound like 539 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 3: I'm trying to be a hater of CJ. Stroud. I'm not. 540 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 2: I'm not a c J. 541 00:26:55,200 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 3: Stroud hater at all. I'm gonna speak generically. It's just 542 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 3: that watching this game kind of triggered this for me. 543 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 3: One thing and one direction that I think Ryan Day 544 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 3: will go and he should go. And one direction that 545 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 3: I think not only Ryan Day will go, but every 546 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 3: leader of an elite program should go, is there is 547 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 3: no excuse in twenty twenty two and beyond why you 548 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 3: don't have mobility at quarterback. 549 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 2: The quarterback position. 550 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 3: Has evolved so much over the last decade to fifteen years. 551 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson has been huge in this push. It used 552 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 3: to be that if you wanted a runner at quarterback, 553 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 3: you had to sacrifice arm talent to get it. He 554 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 3: was going to be a runner and he could throw, 555 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 3: but boy, you were really going to have to scheme 556 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 3: guys open because he's not going to be a precision passer. 557 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 3: That's not the case anymore. There is a generation of 558 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 3: kids now who are average two plus throwers of the football, 559 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 3: and you could even describe them as pass first guys. 560 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 3: Excellent in the pocket, but they can make plays with 561 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 3: their legs. And here's the most important part, they're willing to. CJ. 562 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 3: Stroud possesses exactly half of that package. 563 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 2: CJ. 564 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 3: Stroud's a phenomenal quarterback. He does not do what Bryce 565 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 3: Young does for Alabama. He does not possess the ability 566 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 3: to keep the defense up the night before they play him, 567 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 3: because they know, if all else fails, that guy's gonna 568 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 3: kill us with his legs. You've got to have it. 569 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 3: It's not a novelty concept anymore. In modern college football. 570 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 3: If you are an elite recruiting program, you should never 571 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 3: settle for just having a pocket passer on your team. 572 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 2: Never settle for it. 573 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 3: Do you understand how big a weapon, how big a 574 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 3: game changer it is? Look at JJ McCarthy. JJ McCarthy's 575 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 3: not a track guy. JJ McCarthy's not afraid to run 576 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 3: the ball. I think he had about thirty total rushing 577 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 3: yards yesterday. He transformed the football game because he's ability 578 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 3: to stick his face in the fan, or he's willing 579 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 3: to stick his face in the fan. 580 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 2: He can run the ball. He's willing to run the ball. 581 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 3: And Dylan Ray, for example, as a quarterback committed to them, 582 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 3: I think he fits this category. And I think that 583 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 3: they will have this taken care of in the future, 584 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 3: but they haven't had it this year. And the reality 585 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 3: is it wasn't going to bite them until this game 586 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 3: either way, but it bit them yesterday. Thirty one to 587 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 3: forty eight for three forty nine is a huge stat line. 588 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 3: It wasn't good enough, and it wasn't good enough in 589 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 3: the end because Ohio State they needed not just to 590 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 3: get to the red zone, they needed to punch it in. 591 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 3: And boy, that mobility at quarterback matters, and it matters 592 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 3: when you don't have it too. So that's one little 593 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 3: answer there. That's not your your cure all, but that 594 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 3: is one answer. There's a lot that's going to be 595 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 3: made out of this this week and in the coming 596 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 3: weeks because Ohio State season is done, I think, and well, 597 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 3: let me put a pause on that. I don't know 598 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 3: if their season's done, but I know whatever happens in 599 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 3: the future is gonna ring kind of hollow for them 600 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 3: at least the rest of this year because of what 601 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 3: happened yesterday. So I got plenty more on that game 602 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 3: coming up this week. We are just getting start here. 603 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,479 Speaker 3: Academy Sports and Outdoors has allowed us to go all 604 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 3: over the country this year. Like had a great time 605 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 3: in Columbus yesterday. I went from Columbus Georgia to Columbus, Ohio, 606 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 3: and it was nicer in Columbus, Ohio than it was 607 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 3: in Columbus Georgia, which in and of itself is a 608 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 3: big upset. I would argue a close second in the 609 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 3: upset category for the weekend. But Academy Sports and Outdoors 610 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 3: not as plentiful in Ohio. 611 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 2: But here's the thing. 612 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 3: If I hand out Academy gift cards in Columbus, Ohio, 613 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 3: they're just as good as in Columbus Georgia. You know why, 614 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 3: because you don't have to have a brick and mortar 615 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 3: location to visit Academy Sports and Outdoors. 616 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 2: Right here, Academy dot Com. 617 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 3: Right here, Academy dot Com. Well, let me check and 618 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 3: see if we have any new coaching News. Note just 619 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 3: Cole Kuberlick sending me a link to his podcast. 620 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 2: Thank you, Cole Colin. 621 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 3: When did I start? When did I start? Banging on 622 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 3: the table twice? That's what Frank Underwood does in House 623 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 3: of Cards, and what a great role model for me. 624 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 3: So Academy Sports and Outdoors in no shape former fashion 625 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 3: associated with Frank Underwood of Gafney, South Carolina, where they're 626 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 3: probably watching us tonight. 627 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 2: Love the peach up. 628 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 3: There by the way. Academy Sports and Outdoors your one 629 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 3: stop shop for nearly everything in life. It can't get 630 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,479 Speaker 3: you a win in your rivalry, but it can get 631 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 3: you a tent to tailgayate at before the rivalry. And 632 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 3: those fold out chairs. The Academy foldout chair is sweeping 633 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 3: the country. I just don't want you guys to be 634 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 3: left behind, Like I don't want you to be the 635 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 3: kid who's buying Genco's when they become hot again twenty 636 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 3: years later. 637 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, by the chair. 638 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 3: Now, Holiday season's coming up, Christmas season's coming up. Just 639 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 3: get stocked up at Academy. 640 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 2: Sports and Outdoors. 641 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 3: And I would strongly encourage you tune into Tuesday because 642 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 3: I think I gotta finalize it with our friends there 643 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 3: at Academy. Think we're gonna have a really, really sizable 644 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 3: special offer coming your way. So Academy Sports and Outdoors 645 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 3: takes care of us. They bring you the show for free. 646 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 3: The least you can do for the stuff you're already 647 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 3: gonna buy anyway is buy it from them if you 648 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 3: can't get their in person Academy dot Com. Let's continue. Look, 649 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 3: I've got games to talk about. We have got coaching 650 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 3: search intel. I got some fresh intel for you. We 651 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 3: got hires being made like Wisconsin from the rafters today. Wisconsin, 652 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 3: Luke Fickle. That's not even what I'm about to talk about. 653 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 3: I will later. This one deserves a paper pop. The 654 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 3: paper pop on this show reserved only for the most 655 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 3: notable of topics. South Carolina beat Clemson yesterday thirty one 656 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 3: to thirty. Why do we play these games? I'll ask 657 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 3: you again, why why do. 658 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 2: We play these games? 659 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 3: Well? To shut people like me up who expect a 660 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 3: fourteen plus point Clemson win didn't take them long over 661 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 3: there on. 662 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 2: The Big Spur last night. 663 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 3: I needed Sherbert to delete the posts, but he didn't, 664 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 3: so I was just called out in front of God 665 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 3: and everyone, because those folks remembered, Yeah, he kinda sort 666 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 3: of predicted Clemson to beat us by seventeen or more, 667 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 3: not even just two touchdowns. In my defense, what I 668 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 3: would like you to remember is three weeks ago, South 669 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 3: Carolina does not score an offensive point in Gainesville. Thirty 670 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 3: eight to six was the final Florida rolls all over 671 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 3: South Carolina. And that answers my question, why do we 672 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 3: play the games? We play the games because the following 673 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 3: week they disposed of what looked to be a sure 674 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 3: fire participant in the playoff, just out of nowhere, sixty 675 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 3: three to thirty eight over Tennessee. Remember that, Well, if 676 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 3: you had forgotten that already, and let me take a 677 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 3: ceremonial sip of what is this orange blood? It might 678 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 3: as well be because everything that's orange that has been 679 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 3: put in South Carolina's path, Shane Beemer's just ah man, 680 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 3: it's illegal in some states what that guy's done thirty 681 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 3: one to thirty yesterday against Clemson. Do you realize Shane Beemer, 682 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 3: of all people, has disposed of half the potential playoff field? 683 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 3: Hoompstead defunk it, not even I, but it's happened this 684 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 3: right here, though after that Florida game. This is the 685 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 3: equivalent of like the Undertaker hand coming up through the 686 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 3: grass from the grave, from the buried, a live match 687 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 3: against mankind. I think Belcher was a ninety six. It 688 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 3: was in Philadelphia. I know that Where did this come from? 689 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 3: Where has this come from? Does anybody have an explanation 690 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 3: for me? I challenged the most dieheart of South Carolina fans. 691 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 3: Any of you who have documented proof following thirty eight 692 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 3: to six against Florida that you saw wins over Tennessee 693 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,280 Speaker 3: and Clemson coming. I'm not going to call you a liar. 694 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 3: I simply want to see it, and I trust that 695 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 3: you know what I mean when I say documented. I'm 696 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 3: not going to take your cousin's word for it. I 697 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 3: need visual evidence. I need a paper trail. Please, single handedly, 698 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 3: man just wrecked half the playoff field here. You want 699 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 3: a padlock stat from this game? Three sixty to ninety nine. 700 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 3: Those were the respective passing totals from these two teams. 701 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 2: And it was Spencer Rattler. 702 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 3: Hanging three sixty, and it was DJ and it was 703 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 3: Clumson failing to hit the century mark. Ninety nine is 704 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 3: such an appropriate It just wouldn't ring as as fully 705 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,760 Speaker 3: if they hit one hundred yards passing, so ninety nine 706 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 3: total yards passing they had I think eight completions. Dj 707 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 3: Uyangila lay was eight for twenty nine. You could play 708 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 3: quarterback for Navy some weeks and do better than that. 709 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 3: It's not just a DJ thing. This this is a 710 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 3: team issue, and it's not the first time it's popped 711 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 3: up this year. But this was a what I call 712 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 3: a self talk special for me because I didn't go 713 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,439 Speaker 3: to the game, I didn't get to watch it live. 714 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 3: So when I was leaving Columbus, Ohio last night, and 715 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 3: I big big thanks to Delta for getting me out 716 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 3: of there on time because it was pouring down rain 717 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 3: everywhere I. 718 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 2: Went except Columbus. This was the game that I dialed up. 719 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 3: This was the first game I watched on the flight, 720 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 3: and a self talk special is the kind of game 721 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 3: where I got my little earbuds so as to not 722 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:06,760 Speaker 3: distract and disturb, and yet I'm watching something that grabs 723 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 3: me so much that I can't help but talk. I 724 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 3: feel bad for the lady that was sitting next to 725 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 3: me because I'm just steadily talking to myself the whole game. 726 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,800 Speaker 3: Because that's how incredulous I am at what I'm seeing. 727 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 3: But here's what I expected. I knew what the final was. 728 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,399 Speaker 3: I knew South Carolina had won. Trust me, every one 729 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 3: of my Carolina fans had let me know. The eye 730 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 3: Josh had had its battery drained from. I told you, sos. 731 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 3: But what I expected was thirty one to thirty. Okay, 732 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 3: how would this happen? Clemson favor by two ts noon 733 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 3: kickoff in Clemson? No less, I think they had won 734 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,919 Speaker 3: like forty in a row there. How did this happen? Well? 735 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 3: The first thing, surely is South Carolina had multiple points 736 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 3: off turnovers and there had to be a lot of 737 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 3: hidden yardage here. And some of that's true, but the 738 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 3: other part is not true. In fact, it's the opposite. 739 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,359 Speaker 3: This could have been a lot worse. South Carolina could 740 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 3: have won this thing a lot more handily than they did, 741 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 3: because I look at it, and if you tell me 742 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 3: Carolina wins thirty one thirty and that there was a 743 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 3: pick six in the game, and that that same team 744 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,359 Speaker 3: also through an interception on the opponent's one yard line, 745 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 3: I would have said, that makes sense. 746 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 2: That must be how South Carolina won. 747 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 3: Then you tell me, No, No, it was South Carolina 748 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 3: that threw the pick six and still won. It was 749 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,800 Speaker 3: Carolina that also threw a pick on the one yard 750 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 3: line and still found a way to win. They were 751 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 3: three of thirteen on third down and still found a 752 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 3: way to win. That's the kind of stuff that makes 753 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 3: you talk to yourself on an airplane because I still 754 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 3: really don't get it. But then I watched the game 755 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 3: and I see, hey, beember balls kind of still a 756 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 3: real thing, isn't it. 757 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 2: Special teams won in the football game. Spencer Ratler did 758 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 2: some good things. 759 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 3: He also made some really bad plays, but in the 760 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 3: end you saw what he threw for. Special teams won 761 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 3: miss game for Clemson. They had a great night punting. 762 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 3: But also when you look at that stat line for DJ, 763 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 3: don't misunderstand it. They were put in horrible field position. 764 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,839 Speaker 3: All were the Clemson Tigers because of how good South 765 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 3: Carolina was in the punt game. And now they're an 766 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 3: eight win team. South Carolina started one and two. See 767 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 3: that's the other thing. If you told me they were 768 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 3: going to be an eight win team, certainly they had 769 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 3: to start two to one, but they didn't. They started 770 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 3: one and two. They got beat by Arkansas, they got 771 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 3: blasted by Georgia and still found a way to win 772 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 3: eight games. They beat back to back top ten teams 773 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 3: for the first time in program history. That just kind 774 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 3: of comes out of nowhere to me, but it happened, 775 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 3: and so it does end up being the case that 776 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 3: South Carolina has a better record than they did last year. 777 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,319 Speaker 3: Seven wins last year, eight wins this year. As we 778 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 3: say on the show all the time, it's not always linear. 779 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 3: Progression is not always linear. And I told you I 780 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 3: thought they could go worse record wise this year and 781 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,319 Speaker 3: be a better team. Well it turned out they went 782 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 3: better and were a better team this year. Now they 783 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 3: got Spencer Rattler in there via the portal, and that 784 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 3: was a big surprise last offseason. What will they do 785 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,879 Speaker 3: this year? Because this was as big a recruiting tool 786 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 3: as it was a football. 787 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 2: Game for South Carolina. 788 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 3: I think everyone knows that, and LI not let me 789 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 3: discount the impact of beating Clumson. So it was a 790 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 3: big recruiting tool on top of being a football game. 791 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,280 Speaker 3: I want to take that back because this was really 792 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 3: really huge for the program, really huge for the people there, 793 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 3: and they deserve it. 794 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 2: Really bought in fan base. They deserve it. 795 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,800 Speaker 3: My love for the Carolina fan base is well documented, even. 796 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 2: Though I did pick them a lose yesterday and they 797 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 2: let me know about it. 798 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 3: But then I also wonder, coming off of it, Okay, now, 799 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 3: what's that going to do for recruiting, Because now, unlike 800 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 3: last year, when you're trying to sell Hope and you're 801 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,839 Speaker 3: trying to sell Vision and you do have at least 802 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 3: a decent season you're coming off of to sell, now 803 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,280 Speaker 3: you've got to win over Clumson to sell. 804 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 2: That's a little bit different. 805 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 3: That's a little different ballgame when you got that and 806 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,800 Speaker 3: two years in a row. Now you've exceeded expectation. Everybody 807 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 3: there loves the program. They love being in the program. 808 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 3: So you're never gonna have to convince folks and beg 809 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 3: folks to come to South Carolina. 810 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 2: Folks love it when they're there. 811 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 3: Now they got a reason to go there and also 812 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 3: expect to be able to compete. That's a pretty new concept. 813 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 3: I don't know what to make a Clemson right now. 814 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,799 Speaker 3: I really don't. I think in some ways this was 815 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 3: a good year. In some ways it was a down year. Look, 816 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,359 Speaker 3: they were on the fringes of the playoff conversation. They're 817 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,360 Speaker 3: still going to go to the ACC Championship game. So 818 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 3: I'm not going to call that a wholesale failure, but 819 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 3: I am gonna call it reason to at least look 820 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 3: kind of side eyed and go all right, Dabo, what now? 821 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:43,879 Speaker 2: What now? 822 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 3: And there's a public stubbornness to daboswenty, which I've never 823 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 3: bemoaned him for, because I think I'd kind of be 824 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 3: the same way, even if I do have some doubts 825 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 3: about what I'm doing right now, I'm just not giving 826 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 3: you the satisfaction of knowing it. And I think he's 827 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,839 Speaker 3: been that same way sometimes. Now he came out and said, hey, 828 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,479 Speaker 3: DJ's gonna start the ACC Championship game. That's this year. 829 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 3: I'm not even focused on this year. The ACC Championship 830 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,839 Speaker 3: Game is going to be such an afterthought nationally. Even 831 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,280 Speaker 3: I'm willing to admit that, then I'm already focused on, Okay, 832 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 3: what are you doing after this year? They're not going 833 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 3: to the playoff, They're ceiling is ACC Championship, and they're 834 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 3: favored I forgot what they're favored by. They're their favored 835 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 3: by a little bit. But his staff is his staff 836 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:26,959 Speaker 3: good enough. 837 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,360 Speaker 2: His roster. Is his roster good enough? I answer no 838 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 2: and no. 839 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 3: He may disagree on both fronts, and we'll see because 840 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 3: he'll went out there because he's the head coach. 841 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,800 Speaker 2: But South Carolina. 842 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 3: Scored a big one yesterday, very very big. Now we'll 843 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,719 Speaker 3: find out how big the ripple effect is. 844 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 2: When we watch the signing class they bring in and 845 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:47,359 Speaker 2: then the. 846 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 3: Portal class they bring in. I'm gonna skip around here 847 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 3: a little bit, not on you, Colin. I'm going in 848 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 3: the order that you want me to make sure. Oh, 849 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,760 Speaker 3: listen to this. This is sad. 850 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 2: This is really sad. 851 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 3: We've got almost six thousand people watching this thing and 852 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,760 Speaker 3: less than one thousand likes. In what world is that? Okay, 853 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 3: do you know what happens if we don't get that 854 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,319 Speaker 3: ratio up? Management Waltz is in here tomorrow. They would 855 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,280 Speaker 3: never darken the door of this place on a Sunday. 856 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 3: They'll walk in here and they'll say that's not good enough. 857 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 3: Let's put it behind a paywall. Don't make them put 858 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,239 Speaker 3: this behind a paywall, just like the video, and subscribe 859 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 3: to the channel. It's free. I'm only mildly irritated, but 860 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,279 Speaker 3: it's so easy to do, and I know you're sitting there. 861 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 3: I have the evidence thumbs up. That's what like means, 862 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 3: and subscribe in the button says subscribe. So that's the 863 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 3: easy part. What is the latest? What is the latest 864 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 3: in the Auburn coaching search? Why do rumors persist? Remember 865 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 3: me Moo's three axioms of coaching searches. Why do rumors persist? 866 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 3: Option A they're true, Option B they're being used as 867 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,759 Speaker 3: a smoke screen to hide what's really going on. Or 868 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:02,239 Speaker 3: Option three they're being used as leverage, normally by a 869 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 3: candidate and or his agent. Well, what happened over the 870 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 3: weekend and what really was happening later last week is 871 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 3: Laane Kiffin's name was falling out of the Auburn coaching search. 872 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,840 Speaker 3: It's never totally over until they've announced a higher but 873 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 3: that news started to break Friday night. Saturday morning, I 874 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 3: think that's when it broke publicly. A lot of folks 875 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,840 Speaker 3: were hearing that. Even going into the Egg Bowl, he 876 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:30,720 Speaker 3: was saying it, just not emphatically. It's been a bad 877 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 3: week for local TV anchors trying to break this story 878 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 3: in the state of Mississippi. I've told you guys who 879 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:40,359 Speaker 3: to listen to listen to Chris Lowe. I'll tell you 880 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,400 Speaker 3: the ones who are most connected and plugged in. And 881 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you why the Pete Famils of the world, 882 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,360 Speaker 3: and the Chris Lows of the world, and the Ross 883 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 3: Delingers of the world. Do you know why their word 884 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,719 Speaker 3: is gospel in these coaching searches? And do you know 885 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,959 Speaker 3: why local TV anchors normally with do you know why 886 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 3: podcasters normally? But do you know why I stay out 887 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,319 Speaker 3: of the news breaking business because I know who their 888 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:08,400 Speaker 3: sources are and their sources how should I say this 889 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,759 Speaker 3: and not exactly give it away? Their sources are as 890 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,759 Speaker 3: close to the situation as a source could possibly be. 891 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 3: The mirror is not closer to Lane Kiffen and the 892 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 3: coaching search there than Chris Lowe's sources. Have I been 893 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 3: clear enough there? Okay? Because I'm at these games and 894 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:27,799 Speaker 3: I get to see some things you guys don't get 895 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,160 Speaker 3: to see, So just wait until those guys report it. 896 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 3: But having said that, when that news starts to leak 897 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 3: out because Chris Lowe reported it that Lane Kiffen is 898 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,439 Speaker 3: re upping with Ole miss and all of a sudden, well, 899 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 3: now where's Auburn going to turn. 900 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 2: Then the name Hugh Freeze. 901 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:49,640 Speaker 3: Starts percolating a little bit more. And anyone who's watched 902 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,759 Speaker 3: Late Kick knows that I've made my feelings known on 903 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 3: Hugh Freeze. I got no problem with you hiring him 904 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 3: at Pate State. I'd have no problem with hiring him, 905 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 3: but I know a lot of people would have problem. 906 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 3: So you've got to make your mind up before you 907 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 3: ever allowed the concept of hiring him to go public. Now, 908 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 3: what I don't necessarily know for certain, but what has 909 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:17,960 Speaker 3: been speculated is Auburn had him high on their board. 910 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 3: I've got questions about that, Colex. Frankly, I don't necessarily 911 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,280 Speaker 3: know that I buy that, But there are some reputable 912 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,239 Speaker 3: people who disagree with that. So maybe they're right and 913 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 3: maybe I'm wrong. I've got some reasons to believe that 914 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,279 Speaker 3: Hugh Freeze was never just the go to backup option. 915 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,800 Speaker 3: I do believe there are some people close to Auburn 916 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 3: who want him to be that, but I don't know 917 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:44,280 Speaker 3: if the decision makers thought that, because the decision makers 918 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 3: at Auburn are not talking, nor should they be. Remember that, 919 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 3: remember where information can come from only one of two places, 920 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,719 Speaker 3: Either the Auburn side or the side of candidates and agents, 921 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 3: and right now one hundred percent of the information is 922 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 3: pretty much coming from that candidate agent side. That mean 923 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 3: it's all false, but it does mean there's an angle 924 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,840 Speaker 3: there that's not being countered by. 925 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 2: Information coming from the Auburn camp. Anyway. 926 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 3: I say all that to say, there are a lot 927 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 3: of folks out there who think Hugh Freeze was a 928 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,839 Speaker 3: slam dunk option B for Auburn. I don't necessarily think 929 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,839 Speaker 3: it was that cut and dry, but for argument's sake, 930 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:24,360 Speaker 3: let's say it's true. There is a widely held belief 931 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 3: right now that Auburn was ready to move on Hugh 932 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:32,920 Speaker 3: Freeze and then they had to cool because of public backlash. Again, 933 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,400 Speaker 3: I don't know if that's true. Let me say, if 934 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,960 Speaker 3: it's true, you got the wrong folks running the show 935 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,279 Speaker 3: over there. Let me say it one more time. I 936 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 3: don't know if it's true, but if it's true, you 937 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 3: have people who are in reactionary mode. You have reactors 938 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,640 Speaker 3: instead of people who are proactive and who couldn't care 939 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,239 Speaker 3: less what the fans say. There's a respectfully, there's a 940 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,440 Speaker 3: reason why they pay to watch the product that you 941 00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 3: put on the field, and there's a reason why you 942 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 3: are paid to put that product on the field, because 943 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 3: you allegedly are equipped, you're more qualified to make those 944 00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 3: decisions if you're floating names out to gauge public backlash, 945 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:19,880 Speaker 3: and your decision thereafter will totally depend on whether or 946 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:21,080 Speaker 3: not people get mad at you. 947 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,600 Speaker 2: If you're actually aware. 948 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,400 Speaker 3: Of what folks are saying on message boards, if you're 949 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 3: aware of what is and isn't trending in the dark 950 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,359 Speaker 3: dark recesses of Auburn Twitter, you've already lost your job. 951 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:33,759 Speaker 2: It's not going to be taken from you. 952 00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,799 Speaker 3: Tomorrow, but you are on borrowed time now for the 953 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,480 Speaker 3: third time, I'm going to reiterate, I don't know if 954 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,320 Speaker 3: that's the case here, just let me say that generically, 955 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,080 Speaker 3: for any coaching search from now until eternity, that happens. 956 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:47,239 Speaker 3: But if it's true that Lane Kiffen and Hugh Freeze 957 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,799 Speaker 3: are off the board, where does this coaching search turn? 958 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,480 Speaker 3: Does anyone to have any ideas? Where does this coaching? 959 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,920 Speaker 3: It ain't gonna be Luke Feckel. It turns out he 960 00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 3: was in play all along, but not for Auburn because 961 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,200 Speaker 3: he just signed with Wisconsin I know a lot of 962 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,760 Speaker 3: you have been out and about today and that news 963 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,359 Speaker 3: is taking you by surprise. Yes, Cincinnati's Luke Fickel is 964 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,680 Speaker 3: now the head coach at Wisconsin. Just a bombshell move 965 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:17,000 Speaker 3: for Wisconsin. I'll talk about that later. Remember, please remember, 966 00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:22,320 Speaker 3: the decision makers are not talking, Okay, Rich McGlenn, John Cohen, 967 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,160 Speaker 3: those guys are not talking. 968 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 2: They are very tight lipped about this. 969 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:32,239 Speaker 3: And so the information that you're getting is coming from elsewhere. 970 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,080 Speaker 2: And the noise all coming from the other. 971 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:40,240 Speaker 3: Side means that some of that information is being used 972 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:46,239 Speaker 3: as a tool because said proprietors of that information understand 973 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,680 Speaker 3: how to use it as leverage, and not everything you 974 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 3: hear is true. And in light of new information, it 975 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:58,160 Speaker 3: creates a vacuum because there's an intense thirst for new info, 976 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,399 Speaker 3: and when there's not a lot of new info, some 977 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,480 Speaker 3: things get said. James Franklin's name is being thrown out 978 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,960 Speaker 3: a lot right now. I have no knowledge as to 979 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,960 Speaker 3: whether James Franklin is involved. I got knowledge of a 980 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,680 Speaker 3: couple other guys whose names I can't give you, and 981 00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,880 Speaker 3: I know full well who they are, and it sucks 982 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,400 Speaker 3: and I really want to be able to tell you, 983 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,920 Speaker 3: because it makes you sound like a troll when you 984 00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,080 Speaker 3: say things like I'm saying right now. I know it does. 985 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,719 Speaker 3: But James Franklin's name has been thrown out today. It 986 00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:27,640 Speaker 3: could be that James Franklin is about to be hired 987 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,719 Speaker 3: by Auburn tomorrow. But it could also be that some 988 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:35,520 Speaker 3: rando mentioned his name, and in light of no new information, 989 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,360 Speaker 3: a lot of people just kind of grabbed onto it 990 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,840 Speaker 3: and ran with it. And that's how that's how perception 991 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,040 Speaker 3: becomes reality. Well not really, because that's not reality. So 992 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:44,640 Speaker 3: you're gonna hear a lot of names, You're gonna see 993 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,960 Speaker 3: a lot of things. But I will tell you the 994 00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,719 Speaker 3: same thing that I told you the day after Brian 995 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 3: Harrison got fired. I had a couple of names on 996 00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:57,399 Speaker 3: my list, and one of them has been mentioned very 997 00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:01,400 Speaker 3: very frequently with this job, and that's Lane Kiffin. I 998 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,799 Speaker 3: got no problem personally with Hugh Freeze. I think a 999 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,000 Speaker 3: lot of people over there do. The third name that 1000 00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:11,279 Speaker 3: no one's talking about is Chip Kelly. I'm gonna give 1001 00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:12,680 Speaker 3: you time to roll your eyes. I'm gonna give you 1002 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 3: time to push back on that scoff at it. See, 1003 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:16,759 Speaker 3: a lot of folks are too married with the way 1004 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:20,359 Speaker 3: college football has worked in the SEC. It doesn't work 1005 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,160 Speaker 3: like that anymore. What's your number one push back on 1006 00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,399 Speaker 3: Chip Kelly? Oh, he doesn't like recruiting. You're right about that, 1007 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,600 Speaker 3: and guess what, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter anymore 1008 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:33,520 Speaker 3: because you can buy your team. Chip Kelly is a 1009 00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:38,680 Speaker 3: phenomenal football coach, and it was once upon a time 1010 00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:40,640 Speaker 3: such that you needed more than that. 1011 00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:41,760 Speaker 2: You don't. 1012 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,200 Speaker 3: You don't anymore, especially if I gave that guy an 1013 00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,680 Speaker 3: unlimited salary pool with which to put together a phenomenal 1014 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:52,239 Speaker 3: recruiting staff. Chip Kelly really has to leave his office. Why, 1015 00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,719 Speaker 3: Because NIL allows you to assemble a team. It's a 1016 00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,759 Speaker 3: lot more like the NFL world than it ever has 1017 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,600 Speaker 3: been before. Now he may not have interest in it, 1018 00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,200 Speaker 3: or maybe he does have interest in it. I'm just 1019 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,880 Speaker 3: telling you, if I run things at Auburn, that's the 1020 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:10,040 Speaker 3: kind of guy I'm making. 1021 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,480 Speaker 2: Tell me no, That's what I'm telling you. 1022 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 3: I hadn't heard his name mentioned publicly at all outside 1023 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,880 Speaker 3: of this show, But that's a guy that I'm gonna make. 1024 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,120 Speaker 3: Tell me no before I move on, because I know 1025 00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,560 Speaker 3: that what I need this point moving forward is different 1026 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,680 Speaker 3: than what I would have needed when I made my 1027 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:30,320 Speaker 3: last hire or my last to last hire. Twenty sixteen 1028 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:34,040 Speaker 3: college football and twenty twenty three college football are worlds different. 1029 00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,800 Speaker 3: Chip Kelly would have been a failure at Auburn or 1030 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,959 Speaker 3: anywhere in the SEC quite frankly five or six years ago. 1031 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,680 Speaker 3: I think it flourished now. If he doesn't want to 1032 00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 3: come down here, make him tell you no. But that's 1033 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,000 Speaker 3: the direction i'd go. Look, I don't think this thing's 1034 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:47,920 Speaker 3: gonna linger. 1035 00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:50,120 Speaker 2: Many more days. 1036 00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,000 Speaker 3: So I think that there is resolution coming one way 1037 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,000 Speaker 3: or the other. I do have that on pretty good authority. 1038 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 3: I just don't know who it's gonna be. Do you 1039 00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:58,960 Speaker 3: know who it's gonna be? Do you guys know who 1040 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,000 Speaker 3: it's gonna be? If you do, please please let me know. 1041 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,360 Speaker 3: I don't want guesses, though, I only want what the 1042 00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,560 Speaker 3: lady who works at the Chevron's cousin who knows a 1043 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,759 Speaker 3: Board of Trustee member has told you. That and that 1044 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,520 Speaker 3: only is the kind of concrete information with which this 1045 00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:20,759 Speaker 3: show runs on. Coaching searches can be wild. Wisconsin hired 1046 00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,520 Speaker 3: Luke Fickle today. I woke up this morning and had 1047 00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,879 Speaker 3: no clue that this was a possibility, and yet by 1048 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,160 Speaker 3: four o'clock. By five o'clock today they had announced an 1049 00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,240 Speaker 3: emergency Board of Trustees meeting. Then they went closed session. 1050 00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,160 Speaker 3: Those are always intriguing because no one knows what happens 1051 00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,960 Speaker 3: in those. As it turns out, they were voting and 1052 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,279 Speaker 3: to approve Luke Fickle as new Wisconsin head coach. I 1053 00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,239 Speaker 3: can't put into words how big a grand slam hire? 1054 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,040 Speaker 3: What's a five run homer? Whatever it is? They hit 1055 00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,959 Speaker 3: one in Madison, Wisconsin. They just hit one. I guess 1056 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,759 Speaker 3: I owe a little apology here, even though they haven't 1057 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:57,239 Speaker 3: asked for one. See, South Carolina fans begged me, they 1058 00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,400 Speaker 3: demanded me apologize for picking Clemson. Wisconsin fans did not 1059 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,880 Speaker 3: demand an apology. But I'm gonna give one anyway, because 1060 00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,360 Speaker 3: my question when they got rid of Paul Christ was simply, 1061 00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,560 Speaker 3: how serious are you about football? You know, if you 1062 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,919 Speaker 3: know the behind the scenes up there, you know there 1063 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,239 Speaker 3: are just a lot of things the other major programs 1064 00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,440 Speaker 3: have that they haven't had, not that. 1065 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:18,120 Speaker 2: They can't have. 1066 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,719 Speaker 3: If you're in the Big Ten, you're cashing those TV checks, 1067 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,640 Speaker 3: you can have anything you want to. They've chosen not 1068 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,640 Speaker 3: to beef up their staff, their strength and conditioning, their 1069 00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,200 Speaker 3: recruiting analysts and department. They've chosen to do that well. 1070 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,600 Speaker 3: I would imagine Luke Fickle got all the assurances that 1071 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,680 Speaker 3: he could possibly want before he. 1072 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:37,440 Speaker 2: Took this job. 1073 00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:38,880 Speaker 3: But I had my doubts. 1074 00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:40,400 Speaker 2: I'll freely admit it. 1075 00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,520 Speaker 3: I had my doubts, and I especially had my doubts 1076 00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,359 Speaker 3: that they could go get Luke Fickle. Now, you may 1077 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:47,880 Speaker 3: have been able to pay a lot of money and 1078 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,000 Speaker 3: go get a guy with a name behind his resume, 1079 00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:52,279 Speaker 3: I didn't think that they were gonna be able to 1080 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,480 Speaker 3: get Luke Fickle. So how serious is wisconsinant about football? 1081 00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:00,560 Speaker 3: Pretty darn serious. I was over on the twenty four 1082 00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:04,759 Speaker 3: to seven board over there, over on the Wisconsin message board, 1083 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:08,799 Speaker 3: and Wilt Fong dropped in, And Wilfong knows Fickle pretty well, 1084 00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,799 Speaker 3: and I agree with everything he said. He came over 1085 00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,799 Speaker 3: there and said, you got a terrific culture guy. He's 1086 00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,759 Speaker 3: an elite recruiter, an elite evaluator. And by the way, 1087 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,560 Speaker 3: everybody echoes that that's not just one man's opinion, that's 1088 00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,920 Speaker 3: like one hundred men's opinions. He gets strength and conditioning. 1089 00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,640 Speaker 3: If you've watched Cincinnati play, you know that that's true. 1090 00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:32,080 Speaker 3: Players love him. There's kind of the difficult task of 1091 00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:36,200 Speaker 3: spotting the downside here. The biggest downside here's how you 1092 00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,560 Speaker 3: know you hit a home run. The biggest pushback, the 1093 00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:43,160 Speaker 3: biggest point of criticism from Wisconsin fans is they're scared 1094 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,759 Speaker 3: he'll go to Ohio State in a few years. That 1095 00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,920 Speaker 3: means you hired the guy, because I don't think anyone 1096 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,560 Speaker 3: was worried about where Paul christ was going. If you 1097 00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,120 Speaker 3: got to worry, you know, if you're hiring a guy 1098 00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,640 Speaker 3: who is so highly thought of, you're worried that, oh, 1099 00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,360 Speaker 3: he's not gonna hang around a long time, You're not 1100 00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,680 Speaker 3: South Alabama. First off of all, due respect to the 1101 00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,759 Speaker 3: Jackson God bless them. They may have a guy in 1102 00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,719 Speaker 3: this conversation pretty soon too. But you got to make 1103 00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:09,840 Speaker 3: you know how, you don't got to do anything. You 1104 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,040 Speaker 3: have to make these kind of moves. If you're in 1105 00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,720 Speaker 3: the Big ten, you've got to And this is a blessing. 1106 00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,040 Speaker 3: Like Kevin Warren should be throwing a party at his 1107 00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:22,520 Speaker 3: house tonight, a red and white themed party, because his 1108 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,959 Speaker 3: other member institutions need to get on the ball too. 1109 00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:26,440 Speaker 2: Nebraska just did it. 1110 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,640 Speaker 3: Nebraska made a huge hire when they hired Matt Ruhle, 1111 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,560 Speaker 3: Wisconsin hires Luke Fickle. You've got to get big time 1112 00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:38,880 Speaker 3: head coaches in your conference. You cannot have programs settling 1113 00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,000 Speaker 3: for what Wisconsin and Nebraska have settled for. You can't 1114 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,200 Speaker 3: have programs settling for what Iowa is settling for. You've 1115 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,799 Speaker 3: got to be better. It's a disaster. It's an embarrassment 1116 00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:51,160 Speaker 3: that the Big Ten West, an entire division half of 1117 00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:56,400 Speaker 3: your conference, has just settled into this Milaise of mediocrity. 1118 00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,680 Speaker 3: Should be a pretty good punk rock band name Malaise 1119 00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:03,719 Speaker 3: of Meat, and they will just play towns in the Midwest, 1120 00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,520 Speaker 3: mainly in the Big ten Western Division footprint. You got 1121 00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:08,480 Speaker 3: to make these kind of hires. This was a big move, 1122 00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,799 Speaker 3: possible domino effect coming, but a big move. And the 1123 00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,719 Speaker 3: other thing is as it relates to the Big Ten, 1124 00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,840 Speaker 3: I mean, when you're adding USC and you're adding UCLA, 1125 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,480 Speaker 3: and then you got programs like Nebraska and Wisconsin get 1126 00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,879 Speaker 3: really serious about their coaching searches and their hires, which 1127 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:25,959 Speaker 3: you can afford to do in the most literal sense 1128 00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,640 Speaker 3: of the word afford, because you are printing money as 1129 00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:33,080 Speaker 3: a conference and distributing that to member institutions freely. There's 1130 00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,759 Speaker 3: no reason not to. There's just no reason not to. 1131 00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:40,040 Speaker 3: I think that was Wilford Bremley's last message in the 1132 00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:41,200 Speaker 3: diabetes commercials. 1133 00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:43,160 Speaker 2: Check your blood sugar. 1134 00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,680 Speaker 3: Check it often, and pay your head coaches a lot 1135 00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,440 Speaker 3: of money. There's just no reason not to. Moving on, 1136 00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,320 Speaker 3: let's go back to some action on the field yesterday, 1137 00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,080 Speaker 3: shall we appreciate you guys being tuned in, especially if 1138 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,399 Speaker 3: you're watching live. Let need get a little update account here. 1139 00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,080 Speaker 3: We had internal bets on the over under for how 1140 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:00,640 Speaker 3: many people would tune in the show tonight. 1141 00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,839 Speaker 2: I think the over is gonna hip. Appreciate you guys, 1142 00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:04,120 Speaker 2: two thousand likes. 1143 00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,200 Speaker 3: All of a sudden. I appreciate that too. USC beat 1144 00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,560 Speaker 3: Notre Dame yesterday thirty eight to twenty seven. I got 1145 00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,960 Speaker 3: to tell you, I think you're right, and by you, 1146 00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,320 Speaker 3: I mean anyone out there who has been lecturing me 1147 00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,120 Speaker 3: on Caleb Williams and how he should be the Heisman 1148 00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:22,280 Speaker 3: front runner. Now. Yesterday kind of worked itself out on 1149 00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:26,280 Speaker 3: multiple fronts as it relates to the Heisman. Caleb Williams 1150 00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,480 Speaker 3: is probably the best player in the country right now. 1151 00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:30,640 Speaker 2: He's playing outside his mind. 1152 00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,440 Speaker 3: I saw him in person at the Rose Bowl against UCLA, 1153 00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:38,640 Speaker 3: and he is so dynamic. He is everything that you 1154 00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:40,520 Speaker 3: want in a quarterback. I was talking about Stroud a 1155 00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,640 Speaker 3: little while ago and how he does not do this 1156 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,160 Speaker 3: kind of stuff. Right here, boy, Caleb Williams couldn't care 1157 00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,720 Speaker 3: less man. He will run at a moment's notice. And 1158 00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,720 Speaker 3: not only will he put up some yardage in the 1159 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:56,800 Speaker 3: rushing category, that's a fraction of the value of his mobility. 1160 00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,520 Speaker 3: He makes so many plays. He's like Bryce Young. He 1161 00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:03,959 Speaker 3: makes so many plays unbroken place. He makes so many 1162 00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,600 Speaker 3: improv plays. And I'll tell you what he does better 1163 00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:10,120 Speaker 3: than anyone, including Bryce Young. There's nobody in this sport, 1164 00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,840 Speaker 3: and quite frankly, there aren't many of them in the 1165 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:16,400 Speaker 3: NFL who have the ball come out of their hand 1166 00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:20,720 Speaker 3: off platform with the velocity that Caleb Williams does. If 1167 00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:24,120 Speaker 3: you've ever just watched him, please don't watch the set 1168 00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:28,080 Speaker 3: in the pocket three step, five step, drop, crow, hop 1169 00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,440 Speaker 3: it and turn it loose. A lot of guys have 1170 00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,360 Speaker 3: some juice and zip on the ball. When they do that, 1171 00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:37,520 Speaker 3: Caleb Williams strows across his body, body all contorted, and 1172 00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:41,000 Speaker 3: it's just it's on a rope. Receivers sitting there fanning 1173 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:42,040 Speaker 3: their hands afterwards. 1174 00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:42,840 Speaker 2: He's good. 1175 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:46,920 Speaker 3: He's got accuracy too, so that's also it's something that 1176 00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,600 Speaker 3: doesn't always show up in the box score. You need 1177 00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,200 Speaker 3: to watch his games. The box score doesn't always tell 1178 00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,320 Speaker 3: the entire tale for him. Padlockstat alert in this game, 1179 00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:59,640 Speaker 3: Big padlocks that important padlockstat as it relates to USC 1180 00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:03,160 Speaker 3: and where they may be headed. Two oh four to ninety. 1181 00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,120 Speaker 3: What was that, you may ask? Those were the rushing 1182 00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,480 Speaker 3: totals in yesterday's game. And if you tell me that 1183 00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:14,640 Speaker 3: USC is going to top Notre Dame two oh four 1184 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,480 Speaker 3: to ninety on the ground, I'm going to tell you 1185 00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,120 Speaker 3: I think the Trojan's just won that game. Yes they did. 1186 00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,600 Speaker 3: Austin Jones, the replacement for Travis Dye. You know that's 1187 00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,960 Speaker 3: the one thousand yard rusher who they lost and was 1188 00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,840 Speaker 3: supposed to knock them off balance. Instead, they're just playing 1189 00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:31,640 Speaker 3: their best ball of the year. He went for one 1190 00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,520 Speaker 3: fifty four in a touchdown. I got a second padlock stat, 1191 00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:37,720 Speaker 3: a rare double padlock stat here. It's very simple and 1192 00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,280 Speaker 3: it's such a theme with Southern cal this year. Plus 1193 00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:43,800 Speaker 3: two in the turnover margin, plus two for those keeping 1194 00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,200 Speaker 3: track at home. That now puts them at plus twenty 1195 00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:49,439 Speaker 3: two turnovers on the year. We have now started keeping 1196 00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:54,640 Speaker 3: a separate stat here and it is points off turnover margin. 1197 00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:59,520 Speaker 3: They are plus one fourteen in net points off turnovers 1198 00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:03,600 Speaker 3: this year. That's actually a stat with USC. They were 1199 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:07,400 Speaker 3: the more physical team. That's the big takeaway. Guys, they 1200 01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:10,960 Speaker 3: played Notre Dame. Notre Dame. Even if they lose, you're 1201 01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,080 Speaker 3: supposed to have watched the game and said, hey man, 1202 01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:15,959 Speaker 3: they bloody their nose. Southern calmeya won, but they're gonna 1203 01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:19,160 Speaker 3: feel this the next day. They were the more physical team. 1204 01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:21,840 Speaker 3: I mean, they should take immense amounts of pride in 1205 01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:22,200 Speaker 3: this thing. 1206 01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:22,440 Speaker 2: I know. 1207 01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:24,680 Speaker 3: Lincoln Riley, I think in this post game called the 1208 01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,520 Speaker 3: most complete game they've played so far this year, which 1209 01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:30,280 Speaker 3: means they're peaking at the right time, which is something 1210 01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,680 Speaker 3: he's got some experience with dating back to his days 1211 01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:36,480 Speaker 3: at Oklahoma. But that offensive line is up for the 1212 01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:39,320 Speaker 3: Joe Moore Award. And if you go back to the summer, 1213 01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:41,240 Speaker 3: I had some Southern cal fans push back on me 1214 01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:43,560 Speaker 3: when I said offensive line was gonna be a big 1215 01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,360 Speaker 3: question mark for the team. It turned out you guys 1216 01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,880 Speaker 3: were right. I didn't say it was going to be 1217 01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:50,840 Speaker 3: a weakness. I said I think it's a question mark. Well, 1218 01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:51,880 Speaker 3: that question has been answered. 1219 01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:52,800 Speaker 2: I mean they're that. 1220 01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,520 Speaker 3: You know, everybody got tired of the Tennessee to LSU 1221 01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:59,600 Speaker 3: twenty nineteen comparison. Will allow me to be even more 1222 01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:03,280 Speaker 3: irrespec Let me make the USC to LSU twenty nineteen comparison. 1223 01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:07,120 Speaker 3: I'm not talking about team versus team, but the twenty 1224 01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,920 Speaker 3: nineteen LSU team. I remember when we were in the summer, 1225 01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:12,600 Speaker 3: their offensive line was thought to be a big question 1226 01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:14,840 Speaker 3: mark and they went on to win the national title. 1227 01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:17,240 Speaker 3: And I think that team either won the Joe Moore 1228 01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,520 Speaker 3: Award or they were a finalist for it. Well, USC 1229 01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,640 Speaker 3: is the same way right now. They are tracking to 1230 01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:25,120 Speaker 3: be a playoff team if they win the Pac twelve 1231 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:28,280 Speaker 3: championship game this Friday night in Las Vegas. I think 1232 01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:31,800 Speaker 3: they'll make the playoff. At least that's one man's opinion here. 1233 01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:35,280 Speaker 3: They're favored by three, by the way, against Utah. If 1234 01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,560 Speaker 3: they get in there, they got an o line playing 1235 01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:40,320 Speaker 3: very well. They're playing the most physical brand of ball 1236 01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:42,120 Speaker 3: they've played all year, and by the way, that will 1237 01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,040 Speaker 3: be put to the test again against Utah. That's a 1238 01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,480 Speaker 3: team they scored more than forty on and still lost 1239 01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:53,280 Speaker 3: earlier this year. So my advice is kind of use 1240 01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:55,960 Speaker 3: Utah's script against them. You just showed you got the 1241 01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,520 Speaker 3: capability to do it, so do it again. If they 1242 01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:03,000 Speaker 3: get in the playoff, especially this year, there is nothing 1243 01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,800 Speaker 3: that can't happen. There are gonna be some people out 1244 01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:07,840 Speaker 3: there foolishly who tell you, oh, they can't do that. 1245 01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:09,000 Speaker 2: They can't beat Georgia. 1246 01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:09,360 Speaker 3: They can't. 1247 01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:10,480 Speaker 2: They can beat everybody. 1248 01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,040 Speaker 3: Everybody in that playoff is going to be able to 1249 01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,520 Speaker 3: beat everybody. This is not like years past. This is 1250 01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:18,520 Speaker 3: not a one or two team field. It will be 1251 01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:21,840 Speaker 3: a true four team field because there's no elite team 1252 01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:23,040 Speaker 3: in college football this year. 1253 01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:25,040 Speaker 2: What I'm trying to say is. 1254 01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:31,240 Speaker 3: Twenty nineteen LSU twenty twenty Bama would completely ravage all 1255 01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:33,160 Speaker 3: four teams that are going to be in this playoff. 1256 01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:35,080 Speaker 3: That's what I'm trying to tell you. So it doesn't 1257 01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:36,880 Speaker 3: matter what they would do because they're not in the sport. 1258 01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:40,080 Speaker 3: This year. It's a good year to be TCU, it's 1259 01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,000 Speaker 3: a good year to be US. It's a good year 1260 01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:44,800 Speaker 3: to be Michigan. As long as you guys make the playoff. 1261 01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:47,680 Speaker 3: I got another result that I need to talk to 1262 01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,280 Speaker 3: you about. You can take a little sit from the challice. 1263 01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:54,080 Speaker 2: Texas. 1264 01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:56,160 Speaker 3: A and Ain't beat LSU thirty eight to twenty three 1265 01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:56,640 Speaker 3: last night? 1266 01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:59,960 Speaker 2: Use what thirty eight? Nonsense? 1267 01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,280 Speaker 3: Twenty four that had to be the total for A 1268 01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,280 Speaker 3: and M. Nope, they found a way to break that ceiling, 1269 01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:07,760 Speaker 3: and they broke through it in a big way thirty 1270 01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:12,040 Speaker 3: eight points. And what really blows the mind and boggles 1271 01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:16,480 Speaker 3: the mind is it tells you this was there all along. 1272 01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:19,640 Speaker 3: This kind of result was always possible. They didn't get 1273 01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:22,760 Speaker 3: like five players back last night they had been missing. Nope. 1274 01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:26,200 Speaker 3: They played with Devan a Chain, he went off. They 1275 01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:29,160 Speaker 3: played with Connor Wigman. He had a really good game. 1276 01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:35,000 Speaker 3: They physically owned LSU. Why couldn't that have happened earlier 1277 01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,360 Speaker 3: this year? You know what, let's keep it positive here 1278 01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:39,840 Speaker 3: because I'm gonna kind of tilt it negative at the 1279 01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:43,800 Speaker 3: very end. Well, I'm gonna hopefully tilted positive, but with 1280 01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:48,240 Speaker 3: a cautious message. But first off, paper pop, you want 1281 01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,720 Speaker 3: me to blow your mind. It's Sunday night. You want 1282 01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:53,480 Speaker 3: to take something to the water cooler tomorrow? You take 1283 01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:55,080 Speaker 3: this stat to the water cooler. A and M has 1284 01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,480 Speaker 3: been a disaster this year. Right, The record's a disaster. 1285 01:03:57,680 --> 01:03:59,400 Speaker 3: They're not even close to going to a bowl game. 1286 01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:04,120 Speaker 3: Texas A and M has three wins against AP top 1287 01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:07,920 Speaker 3: fifteen teams this year. That's the most this millennium for 1288 01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:12,800 Speaker 3: that program in a season. I know that that's accurate, 1289 01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:16,320 Speaker 3: and I have no idea how it's accurate. No idea. 1290 01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:18,200 Speaker 2: Who are the three teams now? 1291 01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,760 Speaker 3: No notice? I said AP top fifteen teams, and those 1292 01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,240 Speaker 3: are at the time they played. It was a long 1293 01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:26,600 Speaker 3: time ago, kids, But there was a moment this year 1294 01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:31,280 Speaker 3: where Miami was rated by the woeful AP in the 1295 01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:34,720 Speaker 3: top fifteen and ANN beat them. There was a time 1296 01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:38,640 Speaker 3: this year, kids where Arkansas was ranked in the top 1297 01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:42,600 Speaker 3: ten and they got beat by Texas A and M. 1298 01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:46,360 Speaker 3: And there was certainly a time twenty four hours ago 1299 01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:49,400 Speaker 3: when LSU was top five and they beat them thirty 1300 01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:52,720 Speaker 3: eight to twenty three. Yes, five and seven five and 1301 01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:56,480 Speaker 3: seven non Bowl eligible ANM has three top fifteen AP 1302 01:04:56,600 --> 01:05:00,280 Speaker 3: wins this year. That's the kind of staf that makes 1303 01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:03,360 Speaker 3: you want to fan yourself. Why do we play the games? 1304 01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:05,680 Speaker 3: I'll ask for the third time, why do we play 1305 01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:08,000 Speaker 3: the games. Ten and a half point favorite LSU already. 1306 01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:08,400 Speaker 2: Clinched the West. 1307 01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:11,280 Speaker 3: Because this kind of stuff can happen. A and M's 1308 01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:14,760 Speaker 3: had a bad season. Okay, no one's suggesting otherwise, but 1309 01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:16,840 Speaker 3: not all of Texas A and M has been bad, 1310 01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:20,720 Speaker 3: not all of it. In fact, that true freshman class 1311 01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:25,280 Speaker 3: has been a really good surprise this year. Not all 1312 01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,600 Speaker 3: of it, but some of it. Like Connor Wigman has 1313 01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:30,360 Speaker 3: had a really good year. Evan Stewart is turning into 1314 01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:33,480 Speaker 3: a phenomenal player. But I want to talk about the 1315 01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:36,959 Speaker 3: vibe from yesterday, and this is where the external doesn't 1316 01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:40,720 Speaker 3: always match the internal A and M just on its 1317 01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:45,360 Speaker 3: own Merit is often misunderstood nationally and labeled in ways 1318 01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:50,880 Speaker 3: that it shouldn't be. Whatever yesterday, if you woke up 1319 01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,680 Speaker 3: and you were a casual, you looked at this game, 1320 01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:56,520 Speaker 3: and then you looked right past this game, and you 1321 01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:58,800 Speaker 3: thought to yourself, it doesn't matter. It's a meaningless game, 1322 01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:02,160 Speaker 3: and for you there is probably no help. You need 1323 01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,960 Speaker 3: to go get help. But even for the more dialed 1324 01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:08,040 Speaker 3: in fan, you probably looked and you said LSU at 1325 01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,120 Speaker 3: A and M, Like, I know they don't like each other, 1326 01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:13,440 Speaker 3: but why should I watch that game, what's really on 1327 01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:17,160 Speaker 3: the line. But some of you turned it on and 1328 01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:19,880 Speaker 3: you saw one of the most jacked environments you saw 1329 01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:22,320 Speaker 3: on Saturday. I mean, there were some games where there 1330 01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:26,200 Speaker 3: were maximum postseason consequences riding on the outcome. 1331 01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:28,120 Speaker 2: This game had none of that. 1332 01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:32,160 Speaker 3: For amm and Kyle Field was packed and they were 1333 01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:36,160 Speaker 3: on fire. And I think when you're a part of 1334 01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,960 Speaker 3: that and you don't have a bowl game to play for, 1335 01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:40,640 Speaker 3: and you don't have playoff hopes on the line, you're 1336 01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:43,000 Speaker 3: not going to go to Atlanta, that becomes all of 1337 01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,680 Speaker 3: those things for you. So last night just becomes a 1338 01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:48,640 Speaker 3: M's Bowl game. It is their SEC championship game, it 1339 01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,080 Speaker 3: is their playoff super Bowl, whatever you want to call it. 1340 01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:53,640 Speaker 3: And they just they played with their hair on fire. 1341 01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:56,479 Speaker 3: They did what they've been capable of doing all year. 1342 01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:00,480 Speaker 3: Packed talented teams, even the ones who were underachieving, they've 1343 01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:04,040 Speaker 3: always got that in them. What Michigan's passing game did 1344 01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,680 Speaker 3: last night or yesterday afternoon was the same thing A 1345 01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:09,880 Speaker 3: and M's team did yesterday. Padlock stat by the way, 1346 01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:13,320 Speaker 3: A Chain had thirty eight carries. That's a Derrick Henry 1347 01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:16,480 Speaker 3: stat line. Thirty eight carries for two hundred and fifteen 1348 01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:20,880 Speaker 3: yards and that led to the other padlock stat which 1349 01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,400 Speaker 3: was an mbing ten to fifteen on third down. 1350 01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:25,640 Speaker 2: Listen to these numbers. 1351 01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:29,640 Speaker 3: Your Texas A and m Aggie's twenty four first downs. 1352 01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:33,240 Speaker 3: They had thirty eight points, They had two hundred and 1353 01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:35,880 Speaker 3: seventy four rushing yards, they had four hundred and twenty 1354 01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:39,440 Speaker 3: nine overall yards, and they ran the same number of 1355 01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:41,960 Speaker 3: plays as LSU did, I think, like sixty seven or 1356 01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:44,560 Speaker 3: sixty eight. This is the same team that could They 1357 01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:47,600 Speaker 3: failed to run forty total offensive plays against app State 1358 01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:51,400 Speaker 3: in a loss earlier this year. So moving forward for 1359 01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:55,200 Speaker 3: both of these teams. Yes, friends, LSU, who is still 1360 01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:57,680 Speaker 3: going to play in the SEC Championship game this Saturday, 1361 01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:00,000 Speaker 3: there is seventeen point dog against Jorde. 1362 01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:01,640 Speaker 2: That is the exact number. 1363 01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:03,720 Speaker 3: We told you that point spread would be right on 1364 01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,360 Speaker 3: the money, sixteen and a half or seventeen. As for 1365 01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:08,320 Speaker 3: Texas A and m I told you I was going 1366 01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:11,040 Speaker 3: to have a little negative opinion on this. It's not 1367 01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:15,240 Speaker 3: necessarily negative. I just have a concern, and this is 1368 01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:19,880 Speaker 3: my concern. I think it's apparent to anyone who's watched 1369 01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:23,400 Speaker 3: that team, especially Aggie fans, this year, things need to 1370 01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:26,880 Speaker 3: change offensively for them to ever do what they did 1371 01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:31,400 Speaker 3: yesterday on a consistent basis, Like yesterday doesn't mean anything changed. 1372 01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:35,400 Speaker 3: They just they got a big performance, an individual performance. 1373 01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:39,519 Speaker 3: But here could be the problem. I say could be 1374 01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:42,680 Speaker 3: because we don't know. Jimbo Fisher is the kind of 1375 01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:46,840 Speaker 3: person to dig his heels in when he gets even 1376 01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:51,679 Speaker 3: an ounce, even a modicum of perceived validation on his theory. 1377 01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:54,840 Speaker 3: His theory being his offense works. You just got to 1378 01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:58,439 Speaker 3: execute it. It's fine, We're fine, it's all fine. Well, 1379 01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:01,880 Speaker 3: it hadn't worked this year, has it? Until ya last night? 1380 01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:04,320 Speaker 3: And then A and M hangs thirty eight and that's 1381 01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:08,200 Speaker 3: the last game they're gonna play this year. Jimbo Fisher's 1382 01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:10,080 Speaker 3: the kind of guy if you're not careful, if no 1383 01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:12,760 Speaker 3: one gets to him very quickly. Jimbo's the kind of 1384 01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:16,160 Speaker 3: guy who walks in that locker room and doesn't blink. 1385 01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:18,880 Speaker 3: He may even rip his shirt a little bit. He 1386 01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,280 Speaker 3: unbuttons several buttons on it at the very least, and 1387 01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:23,519 Speaker 3: he lets the hamburger meat hang out. And he says 1388 01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:27,160 Speaker 3: what he won't to talk about offense? Now, what told 1389 01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,639 Speaker 3: y'all into work? Told y'all. I guarantee you the words 1390 01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:33,080 Speaker 3: told y'all came out of his mouth last night, probably quickly, 1391 01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:35,559 Speaker 3: but I bet they came out of his mouth. The 1392 01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:38,680 Speaker 3: worst result last night would not have been A and 1393 01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:40,800 Speaker 3: M losing, because at this point it just would have 1394 01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:43,679 Speaker 3: been another loss in a bad season. The best result 1395 01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:46,639 Speaker 3: would have been A and M winning, and the appropriate 1396 01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:50,720 Speaker 3: change is still being made. The worst result would be 1397 01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,880 Speaker 3: if A and M wins last night, and it just 1398 01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:57,679 Speaker 3: pushes Jimbo Fisher further into the corner, digging his heels 1399 01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:01,080 Speaker 3: in and defending a failing system. 1400 01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:02,839 Speaker 2: So last night's great. 1401 01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:06,360 Speaker 3: Ride, those ways, ride that vibe hopefully lock up a 1402 01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:10,320 Speaker 3: decent recruiting class. But if last night serves in any 1403 01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:13,960 Speaker 3: way to validate in Jimbo Fisher's mind that, hey, that 1404 01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:16,320 Speaker 3: offense actually in bad at all. Look, look it worked here. 1405 01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:18,280 Speaker 3: We'll just carry that in the next year. No, you won't. 1406 01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:19,400 Speaker 2: No, you won't. 1407 01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:21,560 Speaker 3: You'll have the players to do it. You'll have the 1408 01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:24,680 Speaker 3: overall talent roster to do it. You will not do it. 1409 01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:27,599 Speaker 3: They've got to have an offensive coordinator there, They've got 1410 01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:30,519 Speaker 3: to have somewhat of an offensive philosophy change. As I've 1411 01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:34,360 Speaker 3: told you before, and I'll tell you again, I am 1412 01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:37,519 Speaker 3: not going to diagram this on a grease board for you. 1413 01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:40,679 Speaker 3: I'm not a head coach, I'm not an offensive genius. 1414 01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:41,759 Speaker 2: I'm not a doctor. 1415 01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:44,559 Speaker 3: I just know the ugly baby when I see it. 1416 01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:47,200 Speaker 3: Don't have to break it down for you. I know 1417 01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,080 Speaker 3: a bad offense when I see it. A and M's 1418 01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:51,800 Speaker 3: offense has been bad. It didn't get fixed last night. 1419 01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:56,800 Speaker 3: It really didn't. It just happened last night. You ever 1420 01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:59,559 Speaker 3: been friends with someone who's just just an overall not 1421 01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:03,439 Speaker 3: great person, but you just have an incident or you 1422 01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:05,280 Speaker 3: have a day with them where you go home that 1423 01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:08,000 Speaker 3: night and say, huh, they weren't that bad today. 1424 01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:10,240 Speaker 2: How many times does that last? 1425 01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:14,960 Speaker 3: How often does one exception to a well established rule 1426 01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:19,000 Speaker 3: change the rule? The answer is hardly, ever, so let's 1427 01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:22,960 Speaker 3: all cross our fingers that the lessons have still been learned. 1428 01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:28,320 Speaker 3: I want to talk to you about an issue that 1429 01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:31,639 Speaker 3: is prevalent in our college football society. It's called the playoff, 1430 01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:34,400 Speaker 3: and I don't normally talk about it on the show, 1431 01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:37,200 Speaker 3: but it's kind of that time, so I'm gonna talk 1432 01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:38,519 Speaker 3: about it for a couple of minutes. Here. 1433 01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:41,519 Speaker 2: The college football playoff. 1434 01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:44,639 Speaker 3: The field will be announced what a week from today, 1435 01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:47,679 Speaker 3: less than a week now. We're counting down the hours. 1436 01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:51,000 Speaker 3: We're gonna know who's going to Arizona, who's going down 1437 01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:53,040 Speaker 3: to Georgia. The semi finals, by the way, are in 1438 01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:56,680 Speaker 3: Atlanta and Phoenix Glendale. To be exact, where will I be? 1439 01:11:56,840 --> 01:11:59,799 Speaker 3: Hoops knows who will be in the games? Also, Hoops, 1440 01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:05,160 Speaker 3: what changed yesterday? Because there is a chaos theory that's 1441 01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:07,200 Speaker 3: in play here, and what do we know? This is 1442 01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:08,760 Speaker 3: the way I like to break this down. There are 1443 01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:11,639 Speaker 3: some things we know. Georgia is in. I don't even 1444 01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:16,240 Speaker 3: care if they lose Saturday. They're in. It's all about seeding. Michigan, 1445 01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:18,880 Speaker 3: I believe, is in and I think it's all about 1446 01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:22,559 Speaker 3: seeding with them too. So they have they have bought 1447 01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:26,599 Speaker 3: that privilege through winning. I got some of you coming 1448 01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:30,360 Speaker 3: at me saying, well, how's a twelve team playoff gonna 1449 01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:32,799 Speaker 3: water down the regular season? Look at this, these conference 1450 01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:35,960 Speaker 3: title games are already meaningless. Georgia and Michigan will make 1451 01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:40,360 Speaker 3: it in even if they lose. Yes, friend, they have 1452 01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:43,760 Speaker 3: that privilege because of how good they were during the 1453 01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:47,439 Speaker 3: regular season. It's not a one two or two loss 1454 01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:51,200 Speaker 3: team that can also say we'll be in regardless. That 1455 01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:54,880 Speaker 3: world only exists in your expanded format. So Georgia has 1456 01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:57,800 Speaker 3: won every game, Michigan has won every game. That's why 1457 01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:00,559 Speaker 3: they'll be in even if they lose Saturday. They won't 1458 01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:02,920 Speaker 3: necessarily have a one or two seed if they lose, 1459 01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:04,160 Speaker 3: but they'll be in regardless. 1460 01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:05,080 Speaker 2: So that's what we know. 1461 01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:08,160 Speaker 3: Georgia Michigan pretty much look like they're in. What do 1462 01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:11,719 Speaker 3: we know about this week? We know if TCU wins, 1463 01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:17,439 Speaker 3: they're in. We know if USC wins, they're in. And 1464 01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:20,839 Speaker 3: if that were to happen, that's it. There is no drama. 1465 01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:24,840 Speaker 3: But you watch this sport just like I do. Is 1466 01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:28,080 Speaker 3: that how it's gonna happen? Is Kansas State rolling over? 1467 01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:31,040 Speaker 3: Is Utah rolling over? I don't know. The lines on 1468 01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:34,400 Speaker 3: these games are TCU minus two and a half against 1469 01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:38,719 Speaker 3: Kansas State in one game and the USC minus three 1470 01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:40,800 Speaker 3: against Utah in that other game. 1471 01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:44,200 Speaker 2: So if even one of them loses, then. 1472 01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:46,840 Speaker 3: We have a problem. Well you have a problem. I 1473 01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:48,960 Speaker 3: just sit back with my popcorn and prop my feet 1474 01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:50,840 Speaker 3: up and say, you guys go figure it out. Just 1475 01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:53,800 Speaker 3: let me know what you arrive at. What happened yesterday. 1476 01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:56,439 Speaker 3: So what changed yesterday? LSU's out of this thing. They 1477 01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:59,200 Speaker 3: lost again, So that's the three loss team. Even if 1478 01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:01,920 Speaker 3: they win the SEC championship game, they're not in. So 1479 01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:03,080 Speaker 3: that changed yesterday. 1480 01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:04,719 Speaker 2: Clemson they're out. 1481 01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:08,559 Speaker 3: Even if they win Saturday, two loss conference champ from 1482 01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:11,400 Speaker 3: a very bad conference, they will not sniff the playoff. 1483 01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:15,800 Speaker 3: So you remove both the Tigers. Actually they're gone. You 1484 01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:19,280 Speaker 3: got an important Tuesday ahead and I hate to promote 1485 01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:22,519 Speaker 3: that rankings reveal show, but it's a pretty important week 1486 01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:28,519 Speaker 3: coming up because of where Ohio State and Alabama are ranked. 1487 01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:31,360 Speaker 3: Some people out there are telling you Alabama can't make 1488 01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:32,160 Speaker 3: it to the playoff. 1489 01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:32,880 Speaker 2: They are wrong. 1490 01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:35,240 Speaker 3: Some people are going to tell you Ohio State can't 1491 01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:38,559 Speaker 3: make the playoff. Now, they are also wrong. Both of 1492 01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:41,800 Speaker 3: them won't. One of them absolutely could. Here's what you 1493 01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:45,240 Speaker 3: need to pay attention to. It's pretty simple. Who's ranked 1494 01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:48,840 Speaker 3: above who on Tuesday, because unlike some of these other 1495 01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:51,719 Speaker 3: teams that still have conference championship games to play, Bama's 1496 01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:56,439 Speaker 3: done and Ohio State's done. So what I'm telling you 1497 01:14:56,439 --> 01:15:00,160 Speaker 3: that for is wherever that committee ranks them this week. 1498 01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:04,120 Speaker 3: Theoretically it shouldn't change if Bama's behind Ohio State. There's 1499 01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:06,719 Speaker 3: nothing that could happen that would lead to them jumping 1500 01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:11,879 Speaker 3: them and vice versa. So that leads to the chaos scenario. 1501 01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:15,320 Speaker 3: And the chaos scenario is pretty simple. If USC loses 1502 01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:19,880 Speaker 3: or if TCU loses, who's. 1503 01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:20,400 Speaker 2: Taking that place? 1504 01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:22,840 Speaker 3: You're watching right now, if you're watching on YouTube, you're 1505 01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:25,920 Speaker 3: seeing those are the current playoff rankings. But we know 1506 01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:28,840 Speaker 3: that's not real because we know that Ohio State's going 1507 01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:29,559 Speaker 3: to drop from two. 1508 01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:31,800 Speaker 2: Do they drop to five or six? 1509 01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:34,200 Speaker 3: That's the question. USC is going to go up to 1510 01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:36,360 Speaker 3: number four. TCU is probably going to go up to 1511 01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:40,520 Speaker 3: number three. So I would think you have Georgia, Michigan, TCU, 1512 01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:46,640 Speaker 3: USC one through four this week. Who's number five? Is 1513 01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:49,080 Speaker 3: it Ohio State or is it Bama? Because that is 1514 01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:52,559 Speaker 3: answering you the question of who takes the place of 1515 01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:56,080 Speaker 3: TCU if they lose. Who takes the place of USC 1516 01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:58,679 Speaker 3: if they lose. Now, there is a school of thought 1517 01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:01,519 Speaker 3: out there that tc you can afford to lose and 1518 01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:02,240 Speaker 3: still make it in. 1519 01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:04,360 Speaker 2: And you guys may be right. I'm not pushing back 1520 01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:04,720 Speaker 2: on that. 1521 01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:07,360 Speaker 3: I'm saying the only shot Ohio State or Bama have 1522 01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:11,400 Speaker 3: is if at least one of those teams loses. I 1523 01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:15,360 Speaker 3: think if USC loses, they're absolutely out. So if USC 1524 01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:18,240 Speaker 3: were to lose to Utah again, they've already done it once. 1525 01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:22,400 Speaker 3: You've absolutely got a playoff spot opening up, and you've 1526 01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:27,439 Speaker 3: got a very very toxic, very gross, zero win situation 1527 01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:31,360 Speaker 3: Bama versus Ohio State debate that will unfold nationally for 1528 01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:36,560 Speaker 3: the world to see, and you will have expansionists ironically 1529 01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:40,240 Speaker 3: explaining to you why one or the other doesn't deserve 1530 01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:43,320 Speaker 3: to be in the playoff, all the while they're supporting 1531 01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:46,040 Speaker 3: the only playoff structure that would guarantee they both. 1532 01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:48,439 Speaker 2: Still make the playoff. So that's always fun. 1533 01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:50,840 Speaker 3: And please don't count on that waking anyone up to 1534 01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:53,519 Speaker 3: the ignorance of set argument, because it's not going to. 1535 01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:57,640 Speaker 3: But I will weigh in, like if you had me 1536 01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:00,840 Speaker 3: on the committee and you had me choosing between Ohio 1537 01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:04,360 Speaker 3: State and Bama, I'm going Bama. After yesterday, I'm going Bama. 1538 01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:07,479 Speaker 3: There are multiple big lies in this sport. I talk 1539 01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:11,160 Speaker 3: to you about them all the time, and please, before 1540 01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:13,800 Speaker 3: you school me on this, that is a flawed team. 1541 01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:16,720 Speaker 3: That Bama's at Bama team is as flawed as any 1542 01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:19,519 Speaker 3: team we've seen in a while. Ohio State's a flawed 1543 01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:22,440 Speaker 3: team as we saw yesterday. Got news for you. Everybody 1544 01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:25,519 Speaker 3: else is too, So save that argument for me. I'm 1545 01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:28,200 Speaker 3: just telling you, if you do resume A versus resume 1546 01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:32,240 Speaker 3: b there are some big lies involved. The first big 1547 01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:34,400 Speaker 3: lie is a win is a win, and a loss 1548 01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:34,920 Speaker 3: is a loss. 1549 01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:35,960 Speaker 2: That's not true. 1550 01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:40,519 Speaker 3: Like to me, Ohio State getting boat raced at home 1551 01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:43,599 Speaker 3: yesterday in their biggest game of the year is worse 1552 01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:46,759 Speaker 3: than BAMA losing two games by a combined four points. 1553 01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:50,400 Speaker 3: That's how I feel about that. The other big lie 1554 01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:52,960 Speaker 3: is you are what your record says you are. And 1555 01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:56,479 Speaker 3: again I disagree with that, only because everybody doesn't play 1556 01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:59,719 Speaker 3: the same schedule. So like, I don't know what Ohio 1557 01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:02,160 Speaker 3: State would have done going on the road the same 1558 01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:04,559 Speaker 3: times and same places that BAMA did, I don't know that. 1559 01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:05,680 Speaker 3: I think it would have been a whole heck of 1560 01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:08,760 Speaker 3: a lot more difficult for them than BAMA. Conversely, I 1561 01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:13,240 Speaker 3: think BAMA would have handled Northwestern and Rutgers quite comfortably. 1562 01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:16,680 Speaker 2: What I have to go on is the resume. That's 1563 01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:17,479 Speaker 2: what I have to go on. 1564 01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:19,720 Speaker 3: Okay, So I'm not gonna be upset or shed a 1565 01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:21,599 Speaker 3: tear for either one of them if they get left out. 1566 01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:24,559 Speaker 3: Because truth be told, I don't think you have four 1567 01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:26,840 Speaker 3: playoff worthy teams this year, but since you got to 1568 01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:28,640 Speaker 3: put four of them in there, and it's going to 1569 01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:31,160 Speaker 3: come down to that, if it does come down to that, 1570 01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:34,360 Speaker 3: I'll lean Bama. That's just my personal opinion on that. 1571 01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:37,719 Speaker 3: The other thing I think that happens sometimes with Alabama 1572 01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:40,280 Speaker 3: because they've been in the playoff like virtually every year 1573 01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:43,880 Speaker 3: is when I mentioned this last night, I had some 1574 01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:46,080 Speaker 3: people say, no, way they get in. Well, first off, 1575 01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:48,280 Speaker 3: that's categorically false. Yes, there is a way they get in, 1576 01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:52,479 Speaker 3: so stop. The second thing people do is, unlike any 1577 01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:56,720 Speaker 3: other team in this thing, people tend to judge Alabama 1578 01:18:57,000 --> 01:19:01,080 Speaker 3: against past Alabama teams. So if we were doing like 1579 01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:04,080 Speaker 3: some fun playoff where we put the best Bama teams 1580 01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:06,920 Speaker 3: over the past fifteen years in a playoff, no, this. 1581 01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:10,240 Speaker 2: Bama team's not going in there. That's not how this works. 1582 01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:13,759 Speaker 3: We're just asking if they have one of the foremost 1583 01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:15,960 Speaker 3: deserving resumes at the end of the year in that 1584 01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:19,360 Speaker 3: given year, and even as flawed as Bama team's been, 1585 01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:22,720 Speaker 3: there is a path not a wide one, but there's 1586 01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:24,600 Speaker 3: a path where they end up making it in. And 1587 01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:28,320 Speaker 3: I got news for you, given how given how infatuated 1588 01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:32,080 Speaker 3: some are with this expanded playoff, I hope they make 1589 01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:35,120 Speaker 3: it in because once Bama makes it in, think you 1590 01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:37,560 Speaker 3: guys know what could happen there. I just want to 1591 01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:40,040 Speaker 3: illustrate for you what you're going to be more and 1592 01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:43,880 Speaker 3: more likely to see happen in the future when you 1593 01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:46,640 Speaker 3: go to a format where Clemson would still be in 1594 01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:49,240 Speaker 3: right now, Ohio State would still be in right now, 1595 01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:50,639 Speaker 3: Bama would still be in right. 1596 01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:54,240 Speaker 2: Now, comfortably, comfortably in by the way, that all be 1597 01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:54,679 Speaker 2: in there. 1598 01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:58,559 Speaker 3: That's what you want. Huh Okay, couldn't be me. Some 1599 01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:02,040 Speaker 3: added takeaways yesterday and I got one to go back 1600 01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:07,800 Speaker 3: on with Friday's games. Florida State forty five, Florida thirty eight. 1601 01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:12,160 Speaker 3: This is the first time since twenty sixteen that FSU 1602 01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:17,400 Speaker 3: has beaten Miami and Florida in the same year. That's 1603 01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:20,200 Speaker 3: no small task for Mike Norvel. They closed on a 1604 01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:22,479 Speaker 3: five game win streak. I feel like they've been playing 1605 01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:26,400 Speaker 3: top ten caliber football down the stretch. Unfortunately, they lost 1606 01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:29,880 Speaker 3: too many games early in the year. But I notice 1607 01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:33,240 Speaker 3: a little shift happening, and it's very ironic that it 1608 01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:36,560 Speaker 3: involves these two teams because they played each other. Everybody's 1609 01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:40,400 Speaker 3: bought in on Mike Norvel now, and he's nine to 1610 01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:43,920 Speaker 3: three this year. Remember in the preseason I was talking 1611 01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:47,360 Speaker 3: about FSU and the general consensus among Seminole fans was 1612 01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:49,720 Speaker 3: eight wins. If we can get to eight wins, that's 1613 01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:51,920 Speaker 3: a big year. Well they got one past that. They 1614 01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:54,200 Speaker 3: got to nine wins this year, so no one's doubting 1615 01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:55,160 Speaker 3: Mike Norvell. Now. 1616 01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:58,960 Speaker 2: He's the toast of the town. They're out in Billy Napier. 1617 01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:02,160 Speaker 3: And I told you once and I'll tell you again, 1618 01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:05,519 Speaker 3: the same people who sold their Mike Norvel stock way 1619 01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:08,360 Speaker 3: too early are now going to double down and sell 1620 01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:11,559 Speaker 3: their BILLI Napier stock way too early. And to that, 1621 01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:14,040 Speaker 3: I will say to you the same thing I said 1622 01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:16,720 Speaker 3: when you started selling your Norvel stock, and that is, 1623 01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:19,840 Speaker 3: I'll buy it, give it to me. Norvell's a really 1624 01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:22,120 Speaker 3: good coach. You just needed to give him time. BILLI 1625 01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:24,320 Speaker 3: Nampier is a really good coach. You just need to 1626 01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:24,880 Speaker 3: give him time. 1627 01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:27,759 Speaker 2: Period. End the story. Good for Mike Norvel. 1628 01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:32,559 Speaker 3: Texas thirty eight, Baylor twenty seven now this one happened yesterday. 1629 01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:36,280 Speaker 3: What do we have here? We have that wide expanse 1630 01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:42,200 Speaker 3: in college football between trash and treasure. The casuals amongst 1631 01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:44,600 Speaker 3: us either got you as trash or treasure. There's no 1632 01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:47,719 Speaker 3: in between. Well, there's a lot of in between. Both 1633 01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:50,920 Speaker 3: of these programs are in between, and both these teams 1634 01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:54,080 Speaker 3: were in between this year. So where is Texas last 1635 01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:57,240 Speaker 3: year a little bit closer to trash than treasure? This 1636 01:21:57,400 --> 01:21:59,960 Speaker 3: year they went from five to seven to eight and four. 1637 01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:04,000 Speaker 3: That's good. That means you're closer to treasure. Still a 1638 01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:06,360 Speaker 3: ways away from it, but if it's a one to 1639 01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:08,599 Speaker 3: one hundred scale, you're like over there at sixty three 1640 01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:11,679 Speaker 3: or sixty four, whereas you were at like thirty last year. 1641 01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:14,519 Speaker 3: Chip Brown over on Horns twenty four to seven made 1642 01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:17,240 Speaker 3: a good point though, and I think it kindly keep 1643 01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:19,599 Speaker 3: this up right here. If you're looking at the graphic 1644 01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:21,599 Speaker 3: on your screen right now, it's just their schedule from 1645 01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:25,160 Speaker 3: this year. Do you notice one glaring difference aside from 1646 01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:28,080 Speaker 3: the fact that they just have more wins? What was 1647 01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:30,760 Speaker 3: their problem last year? Their problem was they had that 1648 01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:33,200 Speaker 3: four or five game losing streak to end the year 1649 01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:36,400 Speaker 3: and Sarkisian admitted I never got the team back. I 1650 01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:40,080 Speaker 3: mean they kind of lost them and they wanted a 1651 01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:42,879 Speaker 3: different outcome this year. Well, look at where the losses 1652 01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:50,280 Speaker 3: are on the schedule. Alabama, Texas Tech, Oklahoma State TCU. 1653 01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:53,160 Speaker 3: Those are the four losses. They don't come back to back. 1654 01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:56,519 Speaker 3: None of them come back to back. Texas followed every 1655 01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:59,439 Speaker 3: loss this year with a win. There was no string 1656 01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:02,559 Speaker 3: of losses. They didn't lose the team. They did stay 1657 01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:05,400 Speaker 3: bought in. They weren't the greatest team in America. I 1658 01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:08,720 Speaker 3: didn't really realize the Big Twelve Championship game was still 1659 01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:10,120 Speaker 3: kind of on the line yesterday. 1660 01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:13,280 Speaker 2: If Kansas would have beaten Kansas State. Be that as 1661 01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:13,639 Speaker 2: it may. 1662 01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:18,720 Speaker 3: Texas improved as a team this year. That's all you're 1663 01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:21,800 Speaker 3: asking for. So now what do you get to do. 1664 01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:24,040 Speaker 3: You get to look into next year and you get 1665 01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:26,360 Speaker 3: to know you got Arch Manning coming on campus. So 1666 01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:30,440 Speaker 3: once again we could have a quarterback competition, not controversy, 1667 01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:35,439 Speaker 3: competition between Quinn Yewers and Arch Manning. That's healthy, that's 1668 01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:39,040 Speaker 3: a good thing. Baylor returned to fumble for a touchdown. 1669 01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:43,040 Speaker 3: Speaking of Quinn years, Baylor returns a fumble for a 1670 01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:46,800 Speaker 3: touchdown and Steve Sarkisan pretty much said nope, not letting 1671 01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:49,400 Speaker 3: it happen. They ran the ball the next twenty two plays. 1672 01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:52,320 Speaker 3: They had twenty two runs in a row. Sorry, I said, 1673 01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:55,120 Speaker 3: I'm done watching this. We're just going to salt the 1674 01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:57,880 Speaker 3: game away and then we'll get into December. We'll recruit 1675 01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:00,559 Speaker 3: some and we'll be good. Here they outgained Baylor two 1676 01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:03,240 Speaker 3: hundred and sixty six to fifty six in the second half. 1677 01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:04,519 Speaker 2: Pretty good padlock stat there. 1678 01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:11,559 Speaker 3: Next up, I watched this game in the Columbus Airport, Columbus, Ohio, 1679 01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:15,599 Speaker 3: thirty eight to thirty four Oregon State beat Oregon I'm 1680 01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:18,000 Speaker 3: pretty stunned that this happened because when I sat down 1681 01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,200 Speaker 3: to watch it, it was thirty one to ten Ducks, 1682 01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:23,920 Speaker 3: and I thought, well, there they go, cruise. 1683 01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:25,280 Speaker 2: Into the PAC twelve Championship game. 1684 01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:28,720 Speaker 3: No no, and then you want to really have your 1685 01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:32,439 Speaker 3: mind blown. I don't even know what a padlock stat is. 1686 01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:36,240 Speaker 3: In this game. Oregon State was minus three turnovers and 1687 01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:41,920 Speaker 3: they won. Oregon State completed six passes and they won 1688 01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:45,320 Speaker 3: how well. To be honest, I really don't know still, 1689 01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:48,200 Speaker 3: but I will tell you one thing. When Oregon kept 1690 01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:51,000 Speaker 3: turning it over on downs and they gave Oregon State 1691 01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:54,639 Speaker 3: three short fields late and Oregon State converted that into 1692 01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:58,000 Speaker 3: twenty one points in the fourth quarter. That's a pretty 1693 01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:02,080 Speaker 3: good indication. They were three of nine on third down. Look, 1694 01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:06,679 Speaker 3: how about this telling padlocked stat from this game? Oregon 1695 01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:10,920 Speaker 3: went for it five times on fourth down gooseag oh 1696 01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:14,080 Speaker 3: for five. And then to add insult to injury, they 1697 01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:17,479 Speaker 3: lose Kenny Dillingham to Arizona State after the game, big 1698 01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:21,680 Speaker 3: pickup for Arizona State. Kenny Dillingham headed there as new 1699 01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:23,920 Speaker 3: Sun devil head coach. We'll talk about that more this week. 1700 01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:27,200 Speaker 3: So Oregon does not go to the Pact twelve championship game. 1701 01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:29,800 Speaker 3: That is USC and that is Utah, and that is 1702 01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:34,640 Speaker 3: set for Friday, five Pacific, eight eastern. Another game I 1703 01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:37,320 Speaker 3: wanted to talk about right quick. That was off your radar, 1704 01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:40,519 Speaker 3: and I understand if it was. Do you see what 1705 01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:43,519 Speaker 3: Penn State did? Do you see how Penn State closed? 1706 01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:45,439 Speaker 3: In fact, did you see what Penn State did the 1707 01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:48,200 Speaker 3: rest of the I'm stopping my sentence because the answer 1708 01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:51,120 Speaker 3: is no. You watched them get blown out by Michigan. 1709 01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:54,320 Speaker 3: You watched them lose to Ohio State, and you did 1710 01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:56,240 Speaker 3: not watch another Penn State game this year, did you. 1711 01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:57,479 Speaker 3: It's okay to admit it. 1712 01:25:57,479 --> 01:25:58,320 Speaker 2: It's why I'm here. 1713 01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:02,880 Speaker 3: This was one of the most razor sharp, consistent teams 1714 01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:06,240 Speaker 3: all season. They lost to the two teams that were 1715 01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:09,720 Speaker 3: better than them, and they beat everyone else. They went 1716 01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:13,040 Speaker 3: on the road and smashed Auburn. They took care of 1717 01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:15,880 Speaker 3: business emphatically down the stretch. I mean after that Ohio 1718 01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:19,599 Speaker 3: State game. They won forty five fourteen, thirty to fifty 1719 01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:22,559 Speaker 3: five to ten and thirty five to sixteen, ten and 1720 01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:26,360 Speaker 3: two and Drew Aller. That's all you keep saying to yourself, 1721 01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:29,320 Speaker 3: we just won ten games. Penn State's over under was 1722 01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:31,639 Speaker 3: eight and a half. I think they won ten games, 1723 01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:34,799 Speaker 3: which is our exact prediction from them back in August, 1724 01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:39,480 Speaker 3: and they got Drew Aller on deck, that five star quarterback. 1725 01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:42,799 Speaker 3: Things are looking up. Things are looking up. I think 1726 01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:46,080 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure things are looking up. And the Big 1727 01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:48,040 Speaker 3: ten is only gonna get tougher, so things better be 1728 01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:52,760 Speaker 3: looking up. This was such, this was such a good 1729 01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:56,200 Speaker 3: sign for them, and it's off the radar, like people. 1730 01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:57,280 Speaker 2: Will not pay attention to this. 1731 01:26:57,840 --> 01:26:59,840 Speaker 3: I think you're surprised, maybe to even hear they won 1732 01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:02,479 Speaker 3: ten games because you just wrote them off. They stayed 1733 01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:05,120 Speaker 3: checked in like James Franklin got them right back in 1734 01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:08,080 Speaker 3: and they never lost focus, and they finished strong. They 1735 01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:09,800 Speaker 3: finished about as strong as any team in the country 1736 01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:13,439 Speaker 3: outside it like USC has so good for them. Some 1737 01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:15,280 Speaker 3: other things now, I just want to draw your attention 1738 01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:19,400 Speaker 3: to right quick. I find it interesting. I appreciate you 1739 01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:22,680 Speaker 3: guys watching live or listening to the replay. Hey, do 1740 01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:25,320 Speaker 3: me a favor. If you're listening to the podcast, or 1741 01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:28,640 Speaker 3: even if you're not, but you have a phone, just 1742 01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:32,640 Speaker 3: go follow or it's like the podcast version of subscribing. 1743 01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:34,519 Speaker 3: That's it. Just follow. 1744 01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:38,200 Speaker 2: Did you know trivia question here? 1745 01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:41,400 Speaker 3: You know Alabama and you know Auburn or in the 1746 01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:42,160 Speaker 3: state of Alabama. 1747 01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:43,560 Speaker 2: Forget about them for a second. 1748 01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:48,479 Speaker 3: Did you know there is a pair of teams that 1749 01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:50,920 Speaker 3: win a combined twenty and four in the state of 1750 01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:53,200 Speaker 3: Alabama this year. I'm talking to those of you out 1751 01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:57,400 Speaker 3: there looking for head coaches FBS teams. There are a 1752 01:27:57,439 --> 01:28:00,320 Speaker 3: couple of FBS teams in the state of Alabama that 1753 01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:02,880 Speaker 3: win a combined twenty and four this year. One of 1754 01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:05,880 Speaker 3: them is Troy and one of them is South Alabama. 1755 01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:09,120 Speaker 3: One of those guys is John Somerol and the other 1756 01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:13,400 Speaker 3: guys Caine Womack, and let me put it this way, 1757 01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:16,960 Speaker 3: they will not be in the G five ranks in 1758 01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:19,760 Speaker 3: the state of Alabama for very long. So someone's going 1759 01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:22,679 Speaker 3: to make the right move in hiring one or the other, 1760 01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:25,519 Speaker 3: and then the rest of you are going to look 1761 01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:26,840 Speaker 3: and say, boy, I wish we would have jumped on 1762 01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:30,720 Speaker 3: Kane Onemacker or John Sumral Troy and South Alabama, each 1763 01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:34,400 Speaker 3: of them ten and two big stories locally down there. 1764 01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:37,240 Speaker 3: Matt Rule to Nebraska. I didn't have a lot of 1765 01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:41,240 Speaker 3: time to put it in tonight's show. Obviously a gargantuan move. 1766 01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:44,000 Speaker 3: And Lincoln it looked like he had turned him down. 1767 01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:47,400 Speaker 3: They didn't take no for an answer. Strong Sabin Bama 1768 01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:50,960 Speaker 3: vibes circa two thousand and seven. So good for Trev 1769 01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:55,840 Speaker 3: Alberts and good for Nebraska. It's another necessary move. Wisconsin 1770 01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:58,880 Speaker 3: made one, Nebraska made one. I don't want to end 1771 01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:03,639 Speaker 3: the show with out telling you. Mike Elko left Texas 1772 01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:06,880 Speaker 3: a and m went to Duke and won eight games 1773 01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:09,760 Speaker 3: at Duke in his first year. Let me let me 1774 01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:12,760 Speaker 3: put it another way. Mike Elko leaves Texas A and 1775 01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:15,439 Speaker 3: M as the defensive coordinator, goes to Duke as the 1776 01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:19,000 Speaker 3: head coach and wins more games at Duke, like three 1777 01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:19,960 Speaker 3: more games at Duke. 1778 01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:21,719 Speaker 2: Then Jimbo won this year at Texas. 1779 01:29:21,760 --> 01:29:24,439 Speaker 3: A and M. Who predicted that? I don't think very 1780 01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:27,840 Speaker 3: many people did. Also, there is the small matter of 1781 01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:32,519 Speaker 3: Tennessee obliterating Vandy yesterday. They did check the calendar, they 1782 01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:37,439 Speaker 3: knew it was Doorvember or yeah, well it was. It ended. 1783 01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:42,680 Speaker 3: It's like the Chinese calendar, you know the ones when 1784 01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:44,960 Speaker 3: you go to the Chinese restaurant and they show you 1785 01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:48,639 Speaker 3: the Chinese calendar and it doesn't exactly sync up. It's 1786 01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:51,680 Speaker 3: like the zodiac signs. What am I looking for? 1787 01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:51,960 Speaker 2: Colin? 1788 01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:56,280 Speaker 3: What's that thing called the calendar? Whatever? It's not always 1789 01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:58,000 Speaker 3: like the beginning of the month and the end of 1790 01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:00,680 Speaker 3: the month. I know I'm a Sagittarius. That's about all 1791 01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:00,960 Speaker 3: I know. 1792 01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:02,240 Speaker 2: But I know that thing. 1793 01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:04,959 Speaker 3: Doesn't go December first to December thirty first. So apparently 1794 01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:08,559 Speaker 3: November does not just run the span of November. It 1795 01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:13,519 Speaker 3: ended sometime before yesterday. Because Tennessee they took it out 1796 01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:15,680 Speaker 3: on Vandy, Joe Milton and all. They took it out 1797 01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:18,240 Speaker 3: on Vandy fifty six to nothing. So I see you, 1798 01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:18,920 Speaker 3: Josh Haipel. 1799 01:30:19,400 --> 01:30:19,880 Speaker 2: I see you. 1800 01:30:20,479 --> 01:30:23,519 Speaker 3: Two best bets in conference championship week. One of them 1801 01:30:23,560 --> 01:30:26,080 Speaker 3: is not even a conference title game. You know. We 1802 01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:29,519 Speaker 3: were on Akron yesterday because we were going to be 1803 01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:31,560 Speaker 3: on them the week before and their game got postponed 1804 01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:35,519 Speaker 3: and Akron just blistered someone as a ten and a 1805 01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:38,759 Speaker 3: half point dog. They just won outright. We're on Akron 1806 01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:42,000 Speaker 3: again this week. They are playing Buffalo in the game 1807 01:30:42,040 --> 01:30:45,439 Speaker 3: they got postponed. They're plus thirteen and a half. Love Akron, 1808 01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:47,679 Speaker 3: think there is a decent shot that they could push 1809 01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:50,240 Speaker 3: to win the game outright. So we're taking Akron plus 1810 01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:53,040 Speaker 3: thirteen and a half and believe this is the Mac 1811 01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:53,559 Speaker 3: title game. 1812 01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:55,000 Speaker 2: We're taking Ohio plus three. 1813 01:30:55,640 --> 01:30:58,000 Speaker 3: Those are the only two so far, So stay tuned 1814 01:30:58,280 --> 01:31:03,800 Speaker 3: hour and a half minute show. I really appreciate you guys. 1815 01:31:04,120 --> 01:31:06,240 Speaker 3: Mister Coole just asked in the live chat, where am 1816 01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:09,240 Speaker 3: I going this weekend? Yes, if you'll notice there was 1817 01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:11,599 Speaker 3: no every given Saturday to our announcement on the show, 1818 01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:15,439 Speaker 3: I can tell you I'll be in Atlanta this week. 1819 01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:20,280 Speaker 3: We're doing the live show Thursday from Atlanta. But I 1820 01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:23,679 Speaker 3: didn't give you a destination this week, cause to be honest, 1821 01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:26,439 Speaker 3: I'm not sure where I want to go yet, so 1822 01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:30,439 Speaker 3: I rarely ever miss the SEC championship game. Maybe I'll 1823 01:31:30,479 --> 01:31:35,839 Speaker 3: be there. Big ten Championship yawner. A Big twelve championship 1824 01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:38,800 Speaker 3: game could be the game of the day. The PAC 1825 01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:40,320 Speaker 3: twelve's on a Friday night. I don't know if I 1826 01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:43,040 Speaker 3: can get out there and back in time, so we'll see. Well, 1827 01:31:43,080 --> 01:31:45,599 Speaker 3: it's not a classical every given Saturday tour because it's 1828 01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:48,639 Speaker 3: not the regular season, so we'll see until then. Really 1829 01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:52,080 Speaker 3: appreciate you guys again on the way out, make sure 1830 01:31:52,160 --> 01:31:55,400 Speaker 3: you like the video and subscribe to the channel and 1831 01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:59,559 Speaker 3: follow the pod, and it would not hurt you to 1832 01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:02,200 Speaker 3: make sure you're following on Twitter and Instagram. At Late Kick, 1833 01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:04,840 Speaker 3: Josh says, look, news could break in the coaching world 1834 01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:08,200 Speaker 3: any minute, and we don't just crank the YouTube channel 1835 01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:11,000 Speaker 3: up and go live after every bit of breaking news, 1836 01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:11,719 Speaker 3: like Chip. 1837 01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:13,280 Speaker 2: Patterson does that over and Cover three. 1838 01:32:13,439 --> 01:32:16,000 Speaker 3: He just puts that little red alert emoji up and 1839 01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:19,120 Speaker 3: they just man, they go emergency podcast. Well, we don't 1840 01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:21,760 Speaker 3: always do that, so you know when the show comes on, 1841 01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:23,760 Speaker 3: but if things happen in between, you just make sure 1842 01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:26,200 Speaker 3: you're following at late kick Josh, and you know what, 1843 01:32:26,280 --> 01:32:28,639 Speaker 3: tell your friends and family while you're at it. For 1844 01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:32,800 Speaker 3: producer Jesse, who's dealing with some things right now and 1845 01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:33,479 Speaker 3: we've got. 1846 01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:35,000 Speaker 2: Him in our heart's thoughts and prayers. 1847 01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:39,160 Speaker 3: It's personal, so he's dealing with some things. 1848 01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:42,479 Speaker 2: Put still the integral part of the show. For director Colin. 1849 01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:48,320 Speaker 3: For interim producer Bradley for I don't want to call 1850 01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:50,800 Speaker 3: nel chat. I just know they all lay talk those 1851 01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:53,639 Speaker 3: to that. That's what I'm for everyone here and myself, 1852 01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:55,920 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Have a great start to your week. 1853 01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:57,000 Speaker 3: Take care of j us