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Speaker 1: The volume.

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Speaker 2: Action. He's don't never be action, Tell action to me.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we are back Rory.

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Speaker 2: Today we are joined by somebody who I'm convinced it

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Speaker 2: might be seven of these guys. It's not just one person.

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Speaker 2: I think it's seven of m's. He's everywhere anywhere. Anytime

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Speaker 2: I decide to go outside, if it's one person, I

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Speaker 2: know I'm going to see it. Always good to see

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Speaker 2: somebody that for years I've known, always got great energy,

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Speaker 2: always show love, always supporting, and one of the dopest

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Speaker 2: mcs out of the city that we had, one of

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Speaker 2: the Bars spinners, one of the guys that still holds

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Speaker 2: bars to a high level, A legend New York City legend.

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Speaker 2: My god, Graph, how you feeling, family.

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Speaker 3: Sure, Jo, they're clapping at home.

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Speaker 2: As we said, they're clapping at home. But today we

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Speaker 2: hear the talk about just just New York City man,

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Speaker 2: and just fir things are New York rap. First of all,

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Speaker 2: I've seen the clip, but you last night, Roy, I

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Speaker 2: don't know if you saw it. Graph was pool side rapping.

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Speaker 2: You got a song with Buster and Graph is pool

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Speaker 2: side rapping. I just started laughing. I'm like, if you

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Speaker 2: know Graph like you know he can't wait for a

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Speaker 2: reason to take your shirt off.

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Speaker 1: That's just new though. That's no. I never really did that.

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Speaker 1: My whole career took shaped. The whole time. I was like,

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Speaker 1: one d days, I'm gonna do a show with no

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Speaker 1: shirt on.

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Speaker 2: How's that? How does that work out for you?

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Speaker 1: It's fun. It's fun having a blast my rebrand. It's

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Speaker 1: my new ship blast.

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Speaker 4: It's crazy too good that you gotta get busted to give

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Speaker 4: you some steroids.

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Speaker 1: Not on with those.

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Speaker 5: But it's funny because that whole I just had a

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Speaker 5: bunch of content in my man crib. I wasn't even

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Speaker 5: planning to do that roller camera. Fuck, he's gonna shoot shit. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I'm just rapping and doing shit and just we just

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Speaker 5: edited up, but we dded it looks cool. It was

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Speaker 5: like a whole party. It really wasn't. It's great.

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Speaker 4: We do appreciate that you did come here and didn't

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Speaker 4: wear your Rockefeller chain, so we wouldn't be jealous.

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Speaker 3: But I want to show that will be with bleak

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Speaker 3: and it gave me the change.

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Speaker 4: I came right right in the next day and said more,

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Speaker 4: how'd you let Graf get a rock chain before you?

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Speaker 2: Gras Graph been down with rocks Man. Graph was that

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Speaker 2: that might have been old.

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Speaker 1: At the end.

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Speaker 5: I got there right at the end, right at the end,

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Speaker 5: like right before Jay and Dame actually broke off.

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Speaker 1: I mean like literally like the week of the breakup. Well,

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Speaker 1: who signed you? Was it?

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Speaker 2: Dame?

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Speaker 1: Dame brought me there, He brought me and Kanye.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so maybe it wasn't necessarily Cam being vice president.

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Speaker 1: Graph was the reason after that.

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Speaker 4: Danger signing people not telling J came back from Puerto Rican,

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Speaker 4: Like all right, Graph.

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Speaker 5: Got a whole new roster. Yeah, now Ja Ja was

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Speaker 5: cool with it. Yeah, j was fucking with it back then.

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Speaker 2: But Damon Chaz had a more relationship.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Dame Dame the street guys, Dame was Dame was

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Speaker 5: tappening with Chad Shout out the bag, Chazz and IM

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Speaker 5: missing man. But yeah, dam and Chazz did I know,

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Speaker 5: I think we both made Dame together. But yeah, that's

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Speaker 5: how it really happened because he actually wanted to do

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Speaker 5: Chazz's life movie. Yeah, he wanted to do a movie

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Speaker 5: on Chazz's life. But I know, but a lot of

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Speaker 5: people wanted to do it. Denzel wanted to do the

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Speaker 5: shit too. Don Chet or man. People wanted to do

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Speaker 5: Chazz a story. As a matter of fact, when Denzel

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Speaker 5: did American Gangster and he chose Frank Lucas's life before

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Speaker 5: he chose that, he was trying to do Chazz's Chaz story. Jazz,

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Speaker 5: the story is even crazier than Frank Lucashit fucking retarded.

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Speaker 3: I Chazz lived ten thousand lives.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, He's like the superhero of all gangsters.

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Speaker 2: And he was such a you know, like because he

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Speaker 2: had it was I think him and Biggs had the offices,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, because obviously I know him and I know

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Speaker 2: his story, and I'm like, yo, for somebody who has

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Speaker 2: such a you know, just an interesting real life story

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Speaker 2: like him. He walked so soft, like I was telling it,

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Speaker 2: just like you don't even know. You can't even hear

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Speaker 2: but a very serious and very you know.

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Speaker 5: You feel the present he is in the room. You

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Speaker 5: feel it, Yeah, I feel it. He's like he's quiet,

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Speaker 5: but it's like deadly as ship.

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Speaker 2: Yeah but good god. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: With his reputation when he was managing you, do you

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Speaker 4: think that helped or hurt when it came to like

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Speaker 1: Or both, just Chazz's reputation both it helped.

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Speaker 5: With the right people and it hurt with the Some

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Speaker 5: people could have been the right people, but maybe they

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Speaker 5: was the wrong people. Yeah, if you wanted to do

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Speaker 5: a shady business deal, or you wasn't coming correct or

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Speaker 5: you have bad intentions, you definitely wasn't bringing that energy

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Speaker 1: It wasn't going to happen, you know what I'm trying

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Speaker 5: So, but then the rep A lot of these guys

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Speaker 5: are in power soft, you know what I'm saying. So

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Speaker 5: they were scary and scared of us for even when

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Speaker 5: they didn't have to be. You know, Chas is cool,

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Speaker 5: he's not. You can't run the room with just smack

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Speaker 5: your head.

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Speaker 1: You gotta violate. Then you want to get violated. You

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that people doing good business, what

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Speaker 1: was your intent? Like, why are you nervous?

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Speaker 2: Intention?

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Speaker 1: To sign.

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Speaker 5: So it was kind of like that. So it was

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Speaker 5: like a double edged sword. But I wouldn't change the thing,

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Speaker 5: keep it hone it. Yeah, I think the right people

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Speaker 5: that's supposed to be around me energetically a frequency wise,

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Speaker 5: they yeah, and whoever was supposed to stay away absolutely

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Speaker 5: get out of here. That's how that worked out. But

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Speaker 5: it just took me longer to get here.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. This is what it is.

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Speaker 4: Obviously you've known Bleak forever, but how did the situation

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Speaker 4: come about of what you guys are doing now?

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Speaker 5: That ship just happened out of that song. That song

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Speaker 5: changed a lot for me. And it's crazy because when

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Speaker 5: people ask about the rock chain, I said, I just

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Speaker 5: manifested the ship. I made a song called Rockefeller Shane.

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Speaker 5: And that's really when I clearly understood or worlds or

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Speaker 5: words are really spells. Whatever you say, it will happen.

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Speaker 5: You got to say what you want to happen. You

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Speaker 5: gotta be intentionally about the fuck you say. Because I

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Speaker 5: told the story about the Rockefellership in that song, made

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Speaker 5: the song and bomb the shain.

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Speaker 1: Popped out of the end, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: So it's like it was just a song at first,

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Speaker 5: like I heard the beat and I've been thirty eight

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Speaker 5: special made the beach out to thirty eight.

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Speaker 1: I was still to be for mad long, but I

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Speaker 1: was like, it sounded like an old school whole beat. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with this ship.

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Speaker 5: I just channeled my whole on that, and I went,

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Speaker 5: I did, like, what what what would Hopes stay on

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Speaker 5: his beat if he rapped like me? If Hope was granted?

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Speaker 5: What a he saying on his beat? And that's really

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Speaker 5: the energy I took to the record. So I just

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Speaker 5: got on my Rocketfeller shit because it felt like an

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Speaker 5: old school old record. And then after I laid my person,

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Speaker 5: I was like, oh no, I got to send this

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Speaker 5: to the homies. I called Freeway, I called Bleed. I

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Speaker 5: think I called Beans first, oh, and I don't know

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Speaker 5: he was I don't remember what happened. He didn't pick

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Speaker 5: up the phone. So I called the homies and then

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Speaker 5: I saw after I got after I called free you know,

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Speaker 5: I called free PD and then I magically saw Bleak.

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Speaker 1: That same week. I was like, this can't be real.

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Speaker 1: I was like, my nigga, I got a record for you.

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Speaker 5: He's like worse saying it, and he just he bodied

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Speaker 5: it was crazy that shit just fell in line.

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 5: It was like the universe is like this was needs

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Speaker 5: to happen. Yeah, because what the alignment was crazy as

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Speaker 5: it happened.

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Speaker 2: That's a testament to you as a personal graph because,

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Speaker 2: like I said, you've always been somebody that has been

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Speaker 2: with you somebody that has always supported always showed up,

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Speaker 2: pulled up. Yeah. Anybody got a video, Shoot, anybody got

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Speaker 2: a bat? You see Graph at the battles. You listen,

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Speaker 2: Nigga Graph is every where. He not gonna miss nothing.

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Speaker 5: You know, It's funny people say that now you feel

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Speaker 5: I don't even know that I was having it.

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Speaker 2: But that's the only reason why you missed it because

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Speaker 5: He gonna pull up the support because I'm actually having

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Speaker 5: like the last decade sucked like hip hop to me.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't it the bars?

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Speaker 5: What didn't matter in New York for a minute, Like

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Speaker 5: the niggas that was spending, we weren't making the money,

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Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. That's what I mean, Like

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Speaker 5: by the bars were in style, the radio wasn't importing it.

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Speaker 5: The the streets alway gonna support the bars, of course,

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Speaker 5: but it wasn't making the income. So all the niggas

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Speaker 5: were bars that had talent, broad talent for real that

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Speaker 5: you really want to hear spit was probably outside trapping

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Speaker 5: because they're not making no money with wrap in this city.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying To say, it just wasn't.

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Speaker 5: You weren't getting enough traction to make the kind of

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Speaker 5: So the industry wasn' support and it wasn't getting the deals,

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Speaker 5: weren't getting sponsorships. You weren't getting support, period, you know what

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Speaker 3: What year do you think it shifted back in.

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Speaker 5: My APay at least when I noticed it around the

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Speaker 5: time when Grizzella started popping. Okay, that's when I think

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Speaker 5: people were underground started to feel mainstream, like underground niggas

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Speaker 5: started to make thousands of dollars. Again, I'm gonna say

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Speaker 5: so to me that the whole underground is That's why

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Speaker 5: I'm doing this. It's like, it's just good music, but

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Speaker 5: it's now, it's trendy. It became cool to us in

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Speaker 5: the underground around when they started to pop, you know

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Speaker 5: what I'm saying. So it's interesting that you say Griselda

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Speaker 5: and Covid because you just had to listen.

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Speaker 1: He's no more club.

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Speaker 2: Don't talk about it often. If you go back to

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty and just look at the albums that dropped

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Speaker 2: that year, crazy, that's one of the best years in

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Speaker 2: rap I think we had in a long time. But

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Speaker 2: we got some incredible rap albums in twenty twenty. But

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Speaker 2: And you know, Rock has been somebody who has stayed

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Speaker 5: I figured out how those deals instructure of what's going

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, way more brand because the.

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Speaker 5: You know, we don't need an actual record. Some of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean Griselda showed, even if they weren't

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Speaker 3: Signed at Griselta. No, No, they're just just that from that world.

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Speaker 5: Like the fans here care about the culture. They care

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Speaker 5: why it's fun for me now, because this this ship

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Speaker 5: It matter, and it matters monetarily both sides of the scale.

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Speaker 5: I was always true to the art, but when it

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That wasn't fun. And I

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Speaker 5: That and I'm just just rap and that shit is

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Speaker 4: I mean, we happen to be in London the same

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Speaker 4: Would say three to four thousand to every fucking word

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Speaker 1: I was like, I love it, damn that.

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Speaker 5: And That's the only place so far to date career

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Speaker 2: Why do you think New York radio doesn't support the bars.

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Speaker 5: The radio is not designed for music. It is a

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Speaker 1: You can have ninety percent.

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Speaker 5: Of the shit y'all play and still squeeze in. We

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Speaker 5: slip in some dope shit. Yeah, I mean it should

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Speaker 4: I feel like Drew Skid DH ninety seven supports New

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Speaker 5: Like why but even you should be on in the

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Speaker 4: I mean, do you think the person that is into

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Speaker 2: No, not because the ship, because it's not there.

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Speaker 5: But they would if y'all were played. That's what I'm

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Speaker 5: I'm not saying I gotta do this country wide, but

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Speaker 4: But to me, that takes a not a radio station,

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Speaker 4: And I feel as well, like there's no influencer type

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Speaker 2: But I attribute, I mean, you know, because I've been

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Speaker 3: So he was blaming hebro Man.

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Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, I don't.

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Speaker 5: to him. I said, but you you're not from here,

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Speaker 2: So it's not But even looking at Summer Jam, it's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean they also now have to compete

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Speaker 3: Like I give them some grace there.

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Speaker 5: Nah, I don't think budget I think I'm missing all

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Speaker 4: Okay, I forgot the line up this year, but last

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Speaker 4: I'm not defense Hot ninety seven. I just feel for

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Speaker 4: What can they really do? They can't get met life

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Speaker 4: right now with how much radio has suffered with AD dollars.

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Speaker 5: Like, but so, what change in terms of ad dollars?

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Speaker 1: No Hot ninety seven was like MS or something.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Power one of five and all that is

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Speaker 1: So is Power Concerts bigger than than Hot ninety seven concerts?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think Powerouse probably has yeah better they are, yeah,

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Speaker 4: But then also like I'm sure they they've tried to

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Speaker 4: I'm not flying to New York to break even.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you do.

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Speaker 5: The people are saying no to the concerts. That's why

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Speaker 4: I just don't think hoy seven can keep up with

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Speaker 4: own tours.

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00:17:58,200 --> 00:17:59,560
Speaker 1: They can't keep up with that fee.

438
00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,960
Speaker 5: So but a lot of artists, in my opinion, will

439
00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,280
Speaker 5: still support and do the show if they were getting

440
00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:06,080
Speaker 5: support at the station.

441
00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:06,800
Speaker 1: That's a point.

442
00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,120
Speaker 5: You were playing the ship that we all want to hear.

443
00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,719
Speaker 5: Niggas gonna show up because they when you when you

444
00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,280
Speaker 5: are booked on the bill, they play you.

445
00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:14,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

446
00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:15,639
Speaker 5: So it's like if we know we're going to do

447
00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:16,639
Speaker 5: the show and then you have to do it for

448
00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:18,920
Speaker 5: dirt sheet, but you're going to get support all year,

449
00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:19,840
Speaker 5: you're gonna do the ship.

450
00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,400
Speaker 4: Also, I have in that that time you're talking about

451
00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,480
Speaker 4: word Hot was not supporting New York artists.

452
00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,560
Speaker 3: Do we think New York artists were making great music

453
00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:31,000
Speaker 3: at that time?

454
00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,399
Speaker 5: At that time, some of them were, but also a

455
00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,120
Speaker 5: lot of dudes felt the need to compromise and try

456
00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:39,840
Speaker 5: to get support because they couldn't get supported for what

457
00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:41,840
Speaker 5: they were actually making. So when you're when they were staying,

458
00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,679
Speaker 5: thus you weren't getting support. I've been in the club

459
00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,560
Speaker 5: with other New York artists and watch the DJ shout

460
00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,240
Speaker 5: out the out of town the dudes, and you sitting

461
00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,560
Speaker 5: there feeling like what the fuck we're here, Like we're

462
00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:52,960
Speaker 5: from here.

463
00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:53,600
Speaker 1: We're in the club.

464
00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,560
Speaker 5: Like if I go to Miami, if I go to Atlanta,

465
00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,480
Speaker 5: or I'll go to Houston and New York nigga's in

466
00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,760
Speaker 5: the club. Those DJs are going to make sure you

467
00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,600
Speaker 5: know where the fuck you at. They're gonna shout out

468
00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,960
Speaker 5: there artists, they're gonna big them up. This is Houston,

469
00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,520
Speaker 5: this is my You're gonna know where you're at. They're

470
00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,480
Speaker 5: gonna feel the energy and they're gonna make sure of that.

471
00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,880
Speaker 5: I feel like we lost the identity during that time,

472
00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,040
Speaker 5: like we were only supporting out of town. It's only

473
00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,240
Speaker 5: excited to break records that were popping in other towns.

474
00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,480
Speaker 5: Why the fuck do you think those records are popping

475
00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,280
Speaker 5: in other towns because the DJs and the people looke

476
00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,480
Speaker 5: the ship, so you know about the record they running

477
00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,320
Speaker 5: and yalluld play it because somebody, another DJ broke it

478
00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:29,840
Speaker 5: in his town. You would do the same thing in

479
00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:31,560
Speaker 5: your town, though. You could break a record that they

480
00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,600
Speaker 5: get excited about playing somewhere else. But we would do that.

481
00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,080
Speaker 5: We were just running to whatever was shaking and not

482
00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,840
Speaker 5: realizing why it's popping. It's popp because somebody stood on

483
00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,280
Speaker 5: the ship and made sure it got heard. We lost

484
00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,160
Speaker 5: that for a minute.

485
00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:45,879
Speaker 2: I believe.

486
00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,480
Speaker 5: Actually it's the frustrating, but I'm watching it, like watching

487
00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,479
Speaker 5: it runner, Yo, check this new record out that's popular

488
00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,879
Speaker 5: in Atlanta. Why is it popular in Atlanta because the

489
00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,840
Speaker 5: DJ broke the ship? You could break near here too.

490
00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,520
Speaker 4: I mean, do that something that's never brought up during

491
00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:02,840
Speaker 4: that time in New York. I don't think it was

492
00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,440
Speaker 4: a lack of talented rappers. Never, it was a lack

493
00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:07,800
Speaker 4: of talented producers.

494
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:08,520
Speaker 1: We had.

495
00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,760
Speaker 4: Our sound was boom bap, which radio had moved on from.

496
00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,720
Speaker 4: Like they would be every now and then they'd catch

497
00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,960
Speaker 4: a boom Babby record that would be a single on radio.

498
00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,359
Speaker 4: But that everything went down to trap shit.

499
00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:19,960
Speaker 1: True.

500
00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,239
Speaker 4: If we had five more Harry Frauds, yeah, maybe New

501
00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,000
Speaker 4: York would be in a different place. We don't have

502
00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,360
Speaker 4: producers that's that's we have no sound anymore.

503
00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,800
Speaker 3: You need to make good songs to go on the radio.

504
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:34,280
Speaker 3: You could rap.

505
00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 1: If you don't have good but you're not getting the support,

506
00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,399
Speaker 1: then how do you gauge what's good? Like a legacy?

507
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,440
Speaker 1: Here's a crazy question. I always asked, what is it hit?

508
00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:43,920
Speaker 1: Per se?

509
00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:48,600
Speaker 5: Like if I make a record that sounds like it

510
00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,280
Speaker 5: could be a hit, but it doesn't get played and

511
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,960
Speaker 5: nobody ever hears it, and it does, it does no streams,

512
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,160
Speaker 5: is it a hit? But if you played a million times,

513
00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:57,720
Speaker 5: sit gonna blow the fuck up? Like the songs that

514
00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,800
Speaker 5: blow up get supported if they didn't get supported, like

515
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,360
Speaker 5: the like the records that we are trying to push

516
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,160
Speaker 5: that's not brunet supported in that decade, would it still

517
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,640
Speaker 5: be a hit you support even know if the record

518
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,120
Speaker 5: works or not. You know what I'm saying, Because all

519
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 5: of that is just again programming, right with our programming

520
00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,280
Speaker 5: paring the record. Yeah, Like I'm eventually I'm gonna be like, yeah,

521
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 5: I'm gonna start tapping my foot to this ship.

522
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna know the words.

523
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,399
Speaker 5: So thinking about that, if the records that are getting

524
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:25,200
Speaker 5: programmed don't get programmed, is it still ahead, right, this

525
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 5: ship have zero spins. You would be like, oh, this

526
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,640
Speaker 5: record flop, but it's really ahead and can't get supported.

527
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,159
Speaker 5: That's what we're going through. So how the fuck do

528
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:32,359
Speaker 5: we even know if the records are good or not.

529
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,480
Speaker 5: They don't get a chance to even be tested. You're

530
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 5: just going with the program and playing what you think

531
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,760
Speaker 5: is going to work, either because you got paid or whatever.

532
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,160
Speaker 5: The reason is the name, the names all of that ship.

533
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,240
Speaker 5: But it's like, how do you know what the actual

534
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,919
Speaker 5: it is. It's not a hit till it gets programmed.

535
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 5: So if we have all these records here that could

536
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 5: be dope, maybe they're dope, maybe they not, who knows,

537
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:52,920
Speaker 5: they don't. We don't have a chance to even know

538
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:54,719
Speaker 5: if they hits or not because we're not getting supported.

539
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 5: So the records that are popping are a part of

540
00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:01,200
Speaker 5: the program, right. They're not necessarily better kids, they just promoted.

541
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:02,880
Speaker 2: So it makes a lot of sense.

542
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 4: I mean that that even goes back to when everyone

543
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 4: just started focusing on data outside of like A and

544
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 4: r's that's another thing. But also when technology flip for radio,

545
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,119
Speaker 4: they can see exactly when someone changes the channel on

546
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 4: their radio, so if they try to standwhich your record

547
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,640
Speaker 4: between the hit and just to try something, let's work.

548
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 4: Let's just throw this record in here and see what

549
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,120
Speaker 4: it does. Most people that like radio, if they don't

550
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 4: hear something they haven't heard already, they're going to go

551
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 4: to the next station to find something that they've heard already. True,

552
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 4: So there it's people have no idea about the feeling

553
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 4: of music, so they're just looking at the data.

554
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 1: Oh everyone turned the radio off when you try that, right, Like,

555
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,439
Speaker 1: all right, give it a chance, you know. I'm just

556
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 1: saying that.

557
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,160
Speaker 3: But they all have a job to keep, like they

558
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 3: I get it.

559
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:45,400
Speaker 1: At the end of the month.

560
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 4: They're not show numbers and they're not going to be

561
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 4: there like fully understanding music. They're there because they understand

562
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 4: data exactly. It's true, we don't play that song, ye,

563
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,400
Speaker 4: but radios they look at the title and the drop

564
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:58,400
Speaker 4: off radio is weird?

565
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 5: Create that to cut you. I'm telling you crazy thing

566
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 5: to support that. What he's saying is hundred percent right.

567
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 1: I wasn't.

568
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 5: My man is a data analytist. Data analyst, right, so

569
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 5: I was in a meeting one time. Or they're just

570
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 5: looking at numbers, and I'm even gonna say what artists was

571
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 5: but I remember they were in a meeting just looking

572
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 5: at the numbers, and his numbers were crazy, but the

573
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 5: artist sucked. And I'm in a meeting and everybody looked

574
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 5: at the numbers. Spikes Ift this particular artists, and it

575
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,159
Speaker 5: was like, look at these numbers, let's sign. The didn't go

576
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 5: with it. Somebody in the room says, did you hear

577
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 5: what the music sound like? They laughed, like, well, give

578
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 5: us a fuck what it sounds like? Look at these numbers.

579
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 1: But he's right.

580
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 5: It was never about the sound. It was never about

581
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,479
Speaker 5: what's actually dope, because the culture doesn't really matter when

582
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 5: you're looking at numbers. And he's right, it's always only

583
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 5: he's about numbers. They laughed. When somebody said did you

584
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 5: hear the record? They were like, hit the record for

585
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 5: what sign? That shit put it out? It was trash.

586
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 5: I ain't gonna say what it was, but we all tried.

587
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 5: They're popular now, but it was trash. I was like, oh,

588
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 5: here we go. I got them numbers though, dog.

589
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I get it.

590
00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 2: I get it. This is why I don't because I

591
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 2: sometimes I find myself like, let me just hear what

592
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 2: radio is doing.

593
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 3: I didn't know too, and.

594
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 2: You're listening it's the same eight non artists in the hour, right.

595
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 2: If it's not your record, you're featured on the record

596
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 2: of artists that's part of the eight non artists that

597
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 2: they play in the hour. So I'm like, Yo, damn

598
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 2: this record. Damn, I don't want to I'm tired of

599
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 2: hearing this record. Let me turn to another station. Turn

600
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 2: to the other station, then read the record that just

601
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 2: went off right on the station I just turned from.

602
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, bro, what is this game? That's the game, bro,

603
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 2: that is being played, Like, there's way more music than

604
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 2: these fourteen records you're playing in the hour.

605
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,439
Speaker 5: Right, But it's the programming they got to go with

606
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 5: the numbers, and who got the paper? Who's paying to

607
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 5: play those slots already paid for? It's just benness. But

608
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 5: who's to say another record wouldn't work in that slot.

609
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 5: I can guarantee you I can show you ten records

610
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 5: that are working in that fucking slot. They're not gonna

611
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 5: get the light of day because the numbers in the

612
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 5: programming ain't there. Yeah, I mean that's the game. I

613
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 5: understand the game. That's why I said I was even

614
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 5: blaming e bro, I understand the game, but I'm saying

615
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 5: that is a part of why New York City was

616
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 5: like eero o would sound yeah, because our playlist matched

617
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 5: the Lands playlist at one time, and I was like,

618
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 5: we're the fuck of the New York artist. We don't

619
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 5: We're not even on the playlist in this city.

620
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 4: I mean, listen, I feel like that happened far before

621
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 4: we thought the fall of New York, like soul, I

622
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 4: love big Boy in La. Remember that weird time when

623
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 4: he was like syndicated on Hot ninety seven for a second, right,

624
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 4: So we can't there's no one in New York.

625
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird, it's weird.

626
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 4: Legend great nobody else, Like, right, we have to get

627
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 4: somebody from LA who already has a show.

628
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 1: When you think you see what I'm saying, How could.

629
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 3: This was far before the New York drop, But it

630
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,239
Speaker 3: was just small signs before that of Like, but with

631
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 3: that mentality, how could the artists like me not feel

632
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 3: away when I'm looking at this shit?

633
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 5: I'm like, Yo, we we're here putting in pain, Like,

634
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 5: how could I not feel away watching this shit? It's

635
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 5: fucking insane to me, It's insanity. I remember being in

636
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 5: a club one night with a bunch of other artists

637
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 5: that from New York. Who's relevant in this town? And

638
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:56,880
Speaker 5: the DJs were only shouting out out of town.

639
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 1: The dudes. I went to the booth, like, what the

640
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,439
Speaker 1: fuck are you doing? Like we here? Let them niggas

641
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 1: know we here. You bugging, this is New York. We're

642
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: here every night, Nigga, this is New York City. Like

643
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: they should know they in New York. They're not in

644
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 1: their hometown.

645
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 5: I'm sure they came here expecting the field a vibe

646
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 5: in New York and ain't not they I feel a

647
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 5: day in their hometown, and.

648
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: That's your bugget.

649
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 2: A lot of them come here wanting to see because

650
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 2: with the New York sound of what they're doing.

651
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: We go to other cities. We want to see what's

652
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: going on. If I go to Atlanta on Miami, I

653
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: want to see what's shaking in your city. I appreciate

654
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 1: the fact that the town will let me know where

655
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 1: I'm at. I don't feel like, oh, I feel like, yeah,

656
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 1: I'm in Miami, I'm in Atlanta. Y'all should be stunting

657
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 1: and making sure we know where the fuck we're at.

658
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: Right I'm appreciating your sound.

659
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, her record is popping right there when

660
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 5: something this is zam and I'm I'm not hip to this,

661
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 5: like I have better. I appreciate this shit because this

662
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 5: is not my town. I want to be hip to

663
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 5: what's going on. I wanted to go there and see

664
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 5: what's going on in my time in my town. And

665
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 5: I appreciate the culture in that way. So it's like

666
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 5: to see we were that law. We were lost for

667
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 5: a long time. This is like a decade. I'm like, bro,

668
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 5: this sucks, Like you know what I'm thinking about all

669
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 5: the records, all the artists that popp from New York,

670
00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 5: they didn't pop in New York.

671
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 1: From the friendship is to Nikki, to old people that popped,

672
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: our biggest stars I had to leave. They had to

673
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: leave New York to get it popping.

674
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 2: And he started making this whole different type of sound.

675
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 2: Fritz was like, he ain't looked bad.

676
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 5: Bro, did he have a choice? Na being from here?

677
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 5: He wasn't getting he wasn't getting the support. That's sad.

678
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 5: Our biggest stars to leave New York to get popping

679
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 5: in New York.

680
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: What the fuck? What are we doing to make New

681
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 1: York pay attention. You have to get poppings and wells

682
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 1: and be like, oh, his record is popping the land

683
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: New York. The New York wouldn't support him though, So

684
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 1: you want to play because he's from here, but you

685
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: want to plan because he's shaking in Atlanta. Now what

686
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: the fuck? What the entire fuck is going on here?

687
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 2: It's crazy?

688
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: Come on, bro.

689
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 4: Brench didn't go back to speaking of Harry Fraud again,

690
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 4: like back to more of his New York sound, until

691
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 4: after he popped with another sound and he.

692
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: Popped in another state. Yeah, and then New York was, Oh,

693
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: let's suppor him now because he's popping in Atlanta. Come on, bro,

694
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: y'all could have DoD that right here.

695
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

696
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: I could have broke that record right here.

697
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 5: But he had to leave and get it shakeing some

698
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 5: wells for you to support him here.

699
00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 1: Come on.

700
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 2: I always tell a story I was in I was

701
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 2: in since then. Oh yeah, one of the nastiest times

702
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 2: I was in Sin City the night that Future brought

703
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 2: to Tony Montana to New York. Nobody knew the song.

704
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 2: It was just this tall dude with with dreads jumping

705
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 2: up and down. You know how sin City was set up.

706
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 2: He jumping up and down, and me and my boy

707
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 2: were sitting there, was like, this must be his record. No,

708
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 2: we nobody knew this Tony Montana record, but it was catchy.

709
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 2: So we're like, okay, that got to be his record.

710
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 2: So funny how shit works. We leaving Sin City, were

711
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 2: in the car, so we're like, yo, let's go to

712
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: the Dyna get something to eat. So we when we

713
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 2: ordered food, we like, let me get that turkey bacon

714
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 2: Tony Month, and like that was the thing the rest

715
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 2: of the night. And I'm like, that's how it works though,

716
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: Like you hear record, see a god that's like obviously energetic,

717
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 2: this is his ship. And then now like we're making

718
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 2: a joke, but it's like, Yo, that ship was catchy.

719
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 2: And then like I think maybe a month later, I

720
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 2: think Drake remixed it. I think I think Drake had

721
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 2: a Tony Montana vipes.

722
00:28:58,760 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: I think so yeah.

723
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 2: And after that it was out of butt Atlanta artists

724
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 2: and one of the most prominent strip clubs in New

725
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 2: York City in the Bronx brings his record there, DJ

726
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 2: plays his record. Nope, we didn't know this record. First

727
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 2: time I've ever heard that song two months later. I mean,

728
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 2: now that that artist's future.

729
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 5: I bet you that record was shaking away from first.

730
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 5: We were definitely we were excited to play out of

731
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 5: Tinna's records. Yeah, we weren't excited to play our own niggas.

732
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 5: Though we were excited. He probably came in and was like, yeah,

733
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 5: bring the man, we can't wait to support you.

734
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you.

735
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: Don't have the energy for your own people here.

736
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 2: It's nasty.

737
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: What the fuck is nasty?

738
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 4: I mean outside of just reagion stuff, but bar stuff.

739
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 4: I haven't listened to the radio since the Clips.

740
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 3: Album came out. But does the Clips album play on radio?

741
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 2: I haven't listened to radio.

742
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: I think they playing a single.

743
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 5: They're playing in one with with Kendrick going, and that's

744
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 5: if it's not in rotation, it's definitely a mixture.

745
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: Mix your rotation. Yeah, play that shit is dope. It's culture.

746
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that album is.

747
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 4: And we were talking about that Kendrick thing or it

748
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 4: is like a trumpet's playing when they first.

749
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,479
Speaker 1: I think that was the first single, right, I mean,

750
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: and Clips produced by Pharrell.

751
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 5: It's gonna get some support, It's like, but but it's

752
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 5: dope and it's culture. So I'm saying play that ship

753
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 5: for that reason. But it's the clips in Pharrell, You're

754
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 5: not like Kendrick And.

755
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 4: I was going to bring up the frail part because

756
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 4: obviously Clips is bars, but right, the separation between everything

757
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 4: on that is.

758
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 5: For real, that's but that's culture though, even though he's

759
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 5: a hit making ass dude, that's still hip hop culture.

760
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I'm like, support that.

761
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 5: Even though it's you're gonna support it anyway, but it's like, yeah,

762
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 5: I'm happy to see that happening.

763
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 2: What did you think about the album the Clips?

764
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 5: That sh it was dope. I give it a buck.

765
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 5: I think it's dope. It's sounded like what I expected

766
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 5: it to sound like.

767
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: It's dope.

768
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 5: They singing about bricks and ship, and it was dope.

769
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 5: That Malice found a way to balance that ship. Yeah,

770
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 5: that was fire. I appreciate it.

771
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, he he freaked. That is one

772
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: of the best versions of the years so far? Which

773
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: one POV? Which one is that Malice?

774
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 3: So I was the only one that made it out free,

775
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 3: Like he.

776
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: Just pretty much goes through that whole his whole last ten.

777
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 5: Years, jagging that whole ship. Yeah, his verse on fight

778
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 5: was crazy. Yeah, yeah, I was jacking at too. He

779
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 5: had a heat caught a couple of bodies on there.

780
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 2: I mean this this little little things onlines where people

781
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 2: are saying like he might have outperformed pushed on this word. Yeah,

782
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 2: I've been seeing a few people say that Push.

783
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 4: But even say back in the day, in the early clips,

784
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 4: Ship like Malice was he earned everything around like it

785
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 4: was always Malice and we always fucked with Push, but Malice.

786
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 3: I remember being like the one one.

787
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

788
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 3: Then when Push went solo, it was like, oh ship,

789
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 3: never mind, Push you nice?

790
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 2: Nice?

791
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: You know it's funny. I always like, that's just my particular.

792
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 3: I always preferred Push his voice over Mouse.

793
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

794
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,479
Speaker 5: I like, I like what Mattice got bars. Don they

795
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 5: both don't. Yeah, that's just my taste. I just like

796
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 5: the way the nigga. I like the way when they performed.

797
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 5: I liked how Push through his ship. I was like,

798
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 5: I like something right there before he even knew what

799
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 5: it was, like that from the beginning, grinding and all that,

800
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 5: the way he do his ship, I was like, I

801
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 5: just I just resonated more with the way he's delivered it.

802
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: His bars.

803
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 5: But yeah, I like the whole project whole ship. It's

804
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 5: on my gym rotation. Once you make it to my gym.

805
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: Playlist, that that ship test right right, Yeah, you made

806
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: it take to take my shirt off, your shirt off

807
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: to the I don't want to know if you take

808
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: I don't want to know that.

809
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 3: You were saying off Mike.

810
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 4: You feel like some of the people online are lying

811
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,719
Speaker 4: about their love for the Clips.

812
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 2: But we because we've seen it before, Like when a

813
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 2: lot of things online, you know, you have this this

814
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 2: coach online where people wait to see what other people

815
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 2: think first, and then they'll jump in on whatever it

816
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 2: seems to be the more popular, right, even though they

817
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 2: haven't heard the album, they haven't seen the movie, they

818
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: haven't watched the show. Like there's a culture of people

819
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 2: that do that with the Clips, with the Clips album

820
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 2: in particular. You know, I like to watch people's reactions

821
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 2: and things that they're saying. But it is funny because

822
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 2: a lot of people that I'm seeing love the album,

823
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:04,719
Speaker 2: which I think the album is dope. Just a year ago,

824
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 2: maybe the same type of sound and bars and music.

825
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 2: You know, a lot of these people were not supporting

826
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 2: and they didn't like it, like, oh no, that's trash.

827
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 2: Nobody want to hear that shit. The Clips stayed true

828
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 2: to their formula. They don't change who they are their

829
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 2: content pretty much. They always gave us high level slick talk,

830
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, and they never they didn't

831
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 2: sway away from that on this project at all. So

832
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 2: to see people supporting that now when you know a

833
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 2: lot of artists that you know, talk the way the

834
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 2: Clips talk, have been doing it for years and they

835
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 2: don't support it. There like, nobody want to hear that shit.

836
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 2: I'm just like, but why do y'all support this? But

837
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 2: then guys that have been doing this, maybe not to

838
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 2: this exact level because obviously everybody doesn't have a pharreal

839
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 2: in their back pocket like that, but the content and

840
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 2: the energy and the aesthetic was still that y'all don't

841
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 2: support that. But because y'all see the outpour and support

842
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 2: for the Clips, which they deserve it on this project

843
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 2: now it's like, oh, yeah, nah, this is what we need.

844
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 2: This is culture, this is and I'm like, but it's

845
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 2: dudes that been doing this type of shit that y'all

846
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 2: don't support. That's the only thing that I don't like.

847
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 2: It's like, don't wait for somebody to tell you what's dope.

848
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: If you like it, like it, if you don't like it,

849
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: you don't like Like you said, some of them are

850
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: probably just capping the gas in it.

851
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 5: Because now the quote unquote underground, which I remember a

852
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 5: place that whever culture, the culture is trendy. It's cool

853
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 5: to say, oh, that's dope, to be attached to anything

854
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 5: that's culture or bars or hip hop. Now it's cool

855
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 5: to do that now. Before it wasn't before I want

856
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 5: to hear that shit, that lyrical mirror.

857
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear that. Now it's cool to

858
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 1: act like you're down in culture.

859
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 5: So that's a part of that whole thing I was

860
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 5: talking about earlier, Like it is literally you see even

861
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 5: like pop stars or rich motherfuckers people that's not in

862
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 5: tune at all Russian to be attached to culture at

863
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 5: this point of course, because now it's trendy to be

864
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 5: attached to culture. And what quote unquote saints underground before

865
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 5: is now, in my opinion, more mainstream because the stars

866
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 5: aligned and actual superstars are rushing to be next to

867
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 5: the ship.

868
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: And I'm trying to say it's like the era like

869
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: if Child's live. Now you would see.

870
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 5: The most poppyest pop stars trying to stay next thing

871
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 5: they get to flick. Yeah, that being that kind of

872
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 5: climate like this, Oh yeah, the gangster in real, real

873
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 5: culture get justin debou to flick with chaze of that

874
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 5: type of time right now, that's the culture we in.

875
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 5: But I'm all for it because I'm making more money

876
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 5: and the ship. I'm like, raise this ship, go ahead.

877
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 2: But God's like you, you've been, you've you You've seen

878
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 2: it up down, and you've seen all typ changes. You've

879
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 2: seen artists come and go. So I'm sure for you

880
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,760
Speaker 2: now you're seeing it like okay, like now they're finally

881
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 2: coming around.

882
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 5: I appreciate it now. I'm like, yeah, y'all should be

883
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 5: listening to this. I should appreciate it. So whatever got

884
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 5: yall here.

885
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: I'm as glad.

886
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 5: You're welcome, You're in the party. I'm glad, stay for

887
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 5: a while, stay, enjoy yourself, take your shoes off.

888
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: Shell glad you.

889
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 5: Hear like I'm as glad. I'm as glad as a current.

890
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 5: Now that's what I said now is actually fun. Like

891
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 5: like you said before, it mattered, I'm sure bars mattered before.

892
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 5: Somewhere I just didn't I didn't get to invite to

893
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 5: that the Bars Matter party. Now I see it. I

894
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 5: can feel the difference. I'm like, oh, man, I niggas

895
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 5: give a fuck about this ship. Now I want to

896
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 5: hear this again. I've been at events where DJ would

897
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 5: play some hip hop ship and I hear like people

898
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 5: that you would think are down with this shit, but

899
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 5: like turn nobody like under their voice.

900
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 1: I'd be like, oh, you're a rapper, sir.

901
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, but you would want to hear this ship.

902
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 5: And I'd be like, man, turn that. Nobody want to

903
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 5: hear that. I'm like, really, I want to hear the ship.

904
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 5: I'm still into it.

905
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 2: What do you feel about because you, somebody else had

906
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 2: your fair ship of bars directed at other artists in

907
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 2: MC's and y'all talk, had your battles and things like that.

908
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:50,760
Speaker 3: You were shooting at everybody.

909
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, no graphic yeah, switch switches on.

910
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 3: Look where he was aiming anyone that was around.

911
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 2: You've had your You've had your your fair ship of

912
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 2: those moments. Do you what do you feel about the

913
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 2: whole uh? Join the Lucas skept the US a versus

914
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 2: the UK energy.

915
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 5: That's I'm glad you asked me that I love what

916
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 5: Joint is doing because he's nice and I don't think

917
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 5: niggas can fuck with him lyrically. Joined that's my nigga too.

918
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 5: Shout out the Joining. Actually my last toes with Joiner.

919
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 5: Shout out to Joiner and my next single guy him

920
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 5: on it to shout out the Joiner. But one, I

921
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 5: want to keep it in perspective. I want the battle

922
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 5: to stay u K. I mean stay Joiner versus Skepta.

923
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 5: This is not US versus UK, and I'm glad we

924
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 5: talked about this because I was actually gonna make a

925
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 5: video about the show on my page and I don't

926
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:42,439
Speaker 5: have to. Joining is a lyrical beast. He's gonna, he's gonna,

927
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 5: he's gonna try to shoot it whoever he's with. He

928
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 5: with the smoke, he could wrap his ass off. And

929
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 5: he's with it, you know what I'm saying. And Skeptic

930
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 5: apparently it's with it too, which is good for the culture.

931
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: I just don't want to hear that UK versus US shit,

932
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: because it's not that ship like that started. I don't

933
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: know how it actually started. I didn't pay attention all

934
00:37:58,880 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: the way, but I did.

935
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 5: Somebody told me that that Skepta said he Skepta said

936
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 5: it off sit about the UK versus US, right, Well,

937
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 5: this is my question to him or I don't know if

938
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 5: he realizes that if Skepta does a show in New

939
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 5: York City is going to be sold out New York City.

940
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: Fucks with you, dog? What the fuck are you talking about?

941
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it wasn't a negative thing.

942
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 5: It wasn't like, why even introduced that energy when we

943
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 5: fuck with you? Like, it's not like back in the

944
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 5: days when the UK was fighting for the supporter or

945
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 5: respect that they feel they weren't getting. Niggas is representing

946
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 5: the culture. You're spitting bars. We enjoy which niggas are doing. Yeah, welcome,

947
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 5: we look Me and Giggs made a bang on on

948
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 5: thirty eight special album Everybody loves the shit, Like if

949
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 5: Gig does a show in New York it's sold out.

950
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 5: Skeptic comes here, sold out and fucking any of the

951
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 5: top dudes, not even top any anybody that's repping the

952
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 5: culture right come here and do a show.

953
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 2: Support it.

954
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 5: We support it. We love what you're doing. What the

955
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 5: fuck are you talking about? Why even introduce the energy

956
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 5: when it doesn't exist. We talked with y'all.

957
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 2: I think it was just for sports that I did

958
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 2: love what Gigs said, though, I love what Gigs said fetive, like,

959
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 2: you know, no disrespect, but gods like Skepta. If it's

960
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 2: to be a UK US thing, somebody like skeptic, isn't

961
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 2: the one that sceptics more grind right, right. But when

962
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 2: you got guys like Pot of Paper and Ramsey and

963
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 2: Chip and you know, you got guys Jay Hust, guys

964
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 2: that could really you know, really rap, they'll they'll tell

965
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,439
Speaker 2: you immediately like yo, we get what we do from

966
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 2: those guys from the US, like we we we watched

967
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 2: that culture, we supported that culture, We've studied it. The

968
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 2: reason we do what we're doing, why we do what

969
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 2: we do is because of those guys from in the US.

970
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 2: So they'll let you know, like we not even don't

971
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 2: and they would rather collab with Nick. Oh absolutely, But

972
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 2: I like it because people from here who may not

973
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 2: know about a lot of those guys that's really dope

974
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 2: in the UK. To me, something like this sets the

975
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 2: stage and the platform for people to just get an

976
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 2: air onto those guys that like, oh shit, they rapping

977
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 2: like that over there, Like yeah, I know that because

978
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 2: you know. I got one of my close friends, International Firk.

979
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 2: He's really tapped in and he puts me on. He

980
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 2: would just send me songs and I'm like, yo, who

981
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 2: is this dude? He like Yo, he's like the j

982
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 2: Cole over there, He's like the So I'm listening to

983
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 2: these dudes. What are different is so I know the

984
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 2: guys that are over there. But Gigs put it in

985
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 2: perspective like, you won't have for lack of better terms,

986
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 2: you won't have a guy that's hiphi make the hyphee

987
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 2: sound trying to battle an MC. It's like, that's not

988
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 2: what it's not even it's a totally different thing. It's

989
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 2: a totally different part of the culture respect to what

990
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 2: they do. But they can't try to set a stage

991
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 2: for that type of battle because that's not the type

992
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 2: of shit that they do. So I thought with Gigs

993
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 2: did the video that Gig shout out to my guy,

994
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 2: my brother, Gigs, I love that you put out a

995
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 2: dope video, just addressing it and just putting it into perspective.

996
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 2: But I did like the energy of you know, skeptic,

997
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 2: like yo, I'll rap like anytime artist does that.

998
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 5: I'm not mad at the energy at all. That's the

999
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 5: one thing I want to say. I like when niggas

1000
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,439
Speaker 5: do with the smoke because I was always with smoke

1001
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 5: my own funk career. But maybe because I'm a street dude,

1002
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 5: I look at it a certain kind of way. When

1003
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 5: you talk about hip hop battling in this coast versus

1004
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 5: that coast, or this country vers that cult, I always

1005
00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 5: take us to the street because they can easily go there.

1006
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 5: If I look at the bigger picture, because I have to,

1007
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 5: because the way I'm moving the bad I think. I

1008
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 5: don't think like it's just bars now, because if I

1009
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 5: battle you, I'm not the I'm not a good sport nigga.

1010
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 1: I don't know how to play by the rules.

1011
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 5: Sometimes I might you might say the wrong thing to me,

1012
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 5: and I know I see a person if I feel

1013
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 5: the way, I'm gonna.

1014
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: Let you know that you know what I'm saying. I

1015
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: don't know how to I don't know how to buy

1016
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: by the rules.

1017
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 5: That's why I never did battle rap on the big

1018
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 5: stages because I can't watch you talk on my face crazy.

1019
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 1: I'm just not building for that. I wasn't blessed with that.

1020
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 2: You I didn't Yeah, you're gonna fuck the whole battle.

1021
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 5: With that kind of patience in tolerance. But I just

1022
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 5: don't know how to do that. But I commend the

1023
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 5: niggas that do. I'm not even questioning against that. I'm

1024
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 5: just like, I don't know how to do that. I'm

1025
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 5: probably good in my feelings in rocket fucking and yeah,

1026
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 5: that's gonna be off off und. I don't know how

1027
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 5: to do that. I'm not sure enough. You give me

1028
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 5: some time to grow into that.

1029
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, and some of your back and forth, in some

1030
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,439
Speaker 4: of your back and forths, did you ever feel that way?

1031
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 5: Always like and when I'm talking ship, I'm always ready

1032
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 5: to fight because I don't know how to do it

1033
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 5: the other way. So that's why I think this way

1034
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 5: when I hear UK, But I'm like, nah, I race that.

1035
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 5: It's not UK versus out, because when I go over there,

1036
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 5: it's love. It's almost better to collaborate with the as

1037
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 5: a cook up. You know what, if somebody called me

1038
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 5: out directly, it's gonna be me versus you, nigga.

1039
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: It's the same thing.

1040
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 5: When I watched Drake versus Kendrick, I was like, Kendrick

1041
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 5: all smart as you by making it Drake versus Calli.

1042
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 5: You didn't see that chess move. I was like, I

1043
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 5: was trying to like, oh, bro, just a check. You

1044
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 5: gotta check that chess move, like I love Cali, But

1045
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 5: let me keep this battle right here. Yea, how smart

1046
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 5: as you with that one checkmate? He put you versus

1047
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 5: Colst instead of you verse another artists and you missed that.

1048
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 5: But that's that was a small play. But that was

1049
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,959
Speaker 5: a checkmate to me. And so you got to watch

1050
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 5: those things and keep it in perspective. It was supposed

1051
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 5: to be Drake versus Kendrick, it became Drake versus Calli.

1052
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: You fucked up and allowed that to happen.

1053
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 5: So I like what Gigs did because Gig is as

1054
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 5: an MC is like nahas ain't jumping out there saying

1055
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 5: I'm testing it to us. If he was gonna go

1056
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 5: at somebody, he's probably gonna call that person out and

1057
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 5: go with that person because she could get MESSI And

1058
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,399
Speaker 5: in my opinion, especially when like I have the Nigga,

1059
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 5: I think like this.

1060
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:04,240
Speaker 1: Oh definitely, definitely.

1061
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 3: I think Gigs thinks that way.

1062
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 1: He'd be over here, Gigs play over here. Now, He's

1063
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: definitely downtown right now, he's thinking about battling the whole state.

1064
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 1: Don't collaborating with niggas out there living. Yeah, he basically

1065
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 1: live here.

1066
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 5: So it's like that, ain't the mentality that that that

1067
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 5: we need to be promoting at this point of our careers.

1068
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 5: It should be collaboration, should be torn because a tour

1069
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,439
Speaker 5: with joining and Skeptic is going to do way more

1070
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 5: in the battles than a battle.

1071
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: But I'm enjoying the battle. But imatine that.

1072
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 5: They was like, Yo, I want to collaborate with niggas

1073
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 5: and you're doing the UK US tour. We're gonna make

1074
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 5: more money doing that ship. Yeah, like and connecting. But

1075
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 5: I do like that. I'm old with the smoke, so

1076
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 5: I'm a fan of that. But keep it like that.

1077
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 5: Don't make it US verse Noah in US versus UK,

1078
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 5: because we ain't. We ain't mad at you niggas at all.

1079
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 5: I get out and I.

1080
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,240
Speaker 3: Think it's gonna end with them doing a record.

1081
00:43:56,040 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: Together, because if it does and get to a certain

1082
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: level disrespect, then it can. It's really like right now, nobody,

1083
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 1: but when it stays like that, that's amazing. I have

1084
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: to learn that skill. I got that ship. I wasn't

1085
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: born with that. I'm a disrespectful nigga. So I'm like,

1086
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: I watch how I approach certain situations.

1087
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 4: It's a bar that was directed at you that pitsched

1088
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 4: you off the most in your entire career.

1089
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 5: The most of him. Damn, I don't know, y'all want

1090
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 5: to know. I don't think I approached anything that pissed

1091
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 5: me off that much. Yet I didn't get there because

1092
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 5: they would have heard about the fight that happened after.

1093
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 1: I'm not sure enough yet, I'm growing and getting there.

1094
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 2: There was nobody yet, nobody said nothing that you was like, yo,

1095
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 2: not it was a coupled, but nothing that got me

1096
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 2: mad enough to want to get physical like they kept it.

1097
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 3: Was the one that was the closest.

1098
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 4: To that line or that just was like kind of

1099
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 4: pushed you off a little bit, like I ain't.

1100
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 1: Like that one?

1101
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 2: Or looking back, which one did you hear? And you

1102
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 2: was like, you ain't like it? But damn, that was

1103
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 2: clever though, that was slick.

1104
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,399
Speaker 1: It wasn't that man that bothered me on that level,

1105
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: I swear to God.

1106
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 2: But what was one that was like okay?

1107
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 5: That was that was fly Like when me and Joe

1108
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 5: Budden had our tip early in the rap ship I

1109
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 5: was I would have definitely got physical at that time,

1110
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying.

1111
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: But it didn't go there lyrically. It didn't get disrespectful.

1112
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 5: It was just little jabs here and there, even like

1113
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 5: even earlier in my career with me and fifty, it

1114
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 5: was never it was never a distance. It was just

1115
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 5: I got I got a smart ass mouth. He says,

1116
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 5: crazy ship, But neither one of us ever got disrespectful.

1117
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 5: That's why we're all friends, you know what I'm saying.

1118
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 5: It's like everybody's all cool. It never got to a

1119
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 5: level of oh ship, I'm I'm in my room punching

1120
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 5: the air like nah.

1121
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 1: It never It never got to those levels with with

1122
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,240
Speaker 1: nobody for real, which I'm grateful for because.

1123
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 4: I could build with all these niggas fifty in graph

1124
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 4: outside looking in, I thought that was like gonna go further.

1125
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 5: It could have. It never got disrespectful, but it wasn't

1126
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 5: about me. It was really Fifty had an issue with Chad.

1127
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, he never said and I said a bunch

1128
00:45:58,440 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 5: of small ship with his name in it. But I

1129
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 5: never respectful, But it was just liberally like Oka, I

1130
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 5: was witty Hebb Be listening like I don't like it,

1131
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 5: but I'm not mad because it's not disrespectful. It's just

1132
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 5: witty shit, Like I was always saying witty ship with

1133
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 5: his name in it, but it was never like a

1134
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 5: disrespectful this. You know what I'm trying to sip ho,

1135
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 5: It's like it's witty and then it's fifty cross. But

1136
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 5: thinking about it, we all know each other personality. You

1137
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 5: know when a person is just fucking around and you

1138
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 5: know when they being disrespectful. Absolutely, I know my personality

1139
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 5: is like I know your personality. We none of us

1140
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 5: ever crossed the line that went to the disrespectful part

1141
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 5: because I'm a disrespectful nigga. I'm just using your name

1142
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 5: in a witty way. You might not like it, but

1143
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 5: just still be like, all right, it's cool. He ain't

1144
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 5: go there, you.

1145
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying to say, you still respect.

1146
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 5: The fact that I didn't go there, but I go

1147
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 5: there all the time, you know what I'm saying. But

1148
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 5: I didn't go there with your name, but I go

1149
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 5: there on a regular basis. So that's how I look

1150
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 5: at it. If you say it in a way and

1151
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 5: it's like all right, I was some rapt shit. Cool,

1152
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 5: we'll keep it here. Then it's then you don't feel

1153
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 5: no way for real. It doesn't feel like a street

1154
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 5: thing because it can. Any of these battles can go street.

1155
00:46:55,200 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 5: Look even Joey Bads and and ravon it stay on

1156
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 5: Wax and I was great and it was just beateful

1157
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 5: as fuck, but it still didn't go past the rap.

1158
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 5: This is that it didn't go like fuck your marble.

1159
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 5: It didn't get it didn't get to that level. And

1160
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 5: I appreciate that. I like when they can stay on wax.

1161
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 5: I'm gonna learn that ship man, learn that ship man.

1162
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 2: Learn that ship learn. You ain't learning it, but I'm

1163
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 2: just school.

1164
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: I'm a practice man. Just patience is virtue getting it.

1165
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 3: Speaking of fifty uh, we have like this segment.

1166
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: Was j D two weeks ago.

1167
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 4: Last week two weeks ago we started like this this

1168
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 4: or that type segment we did with JD. And we

1169
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 4: want to do the Queen's Edition today with you. Okay,

1170
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 4: where you have to you have to decide some things

1171
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 4: here one can stay and one has to be going forever.

1172
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 4: It was written nas or the War Report components Forever.

1173
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 4: One one has to go forever. You can only keep one.

1174
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:59,919
Speaker 5: Now, we can't do that, go the next one. Forever

1175
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 5: it was written was was a part of the reason

1176
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 5: I even started rapping. NOAs is my favorite rapper ever,

1177
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 5: so I'm would have to go with that, just based

1178
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 5: on the fact that I wouldn't even be on his

1179
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 5: couch without allmatic. And it was written that asked like

1180
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 5: when I first it was written, I pulled over my car, like,

1181
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 5: what is this ship? I heard the message. I was like,

1182
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 5: the fuck is this ship?

1183
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: I pulled over.

1184
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 5: I was driving down Jamaica Avenue at night going to

1185
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,439
Speaker 5: my crib. I pulled over. It was like, this ship

1186
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 5: is amazing. So that's the impact that music had on me,

1187
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 5: and it made me want to keep to pursue rapping

1188
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 5: the real way. I was going to school to be

1189
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:30,720
Speaker 5: like a doctor, I'm sure, trying to about my mother proud.

1190
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 5: And then I started getting to this hip hop gangster

1191
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 5: ship and I was like, all right.

1192
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 2: It was written ruined your life?

1193
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,479
Speaker 4: Sorry mom, Well, I guess the answer is a piece

1194
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 4: component Norri So.

1195
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 1: We can't now, we can't do that.

1196
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 4: I feel like the war report could get you in

1197
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 4: some more trouble than it was written.

1198
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, but that that's so yeah, yeah, but it's just

1199
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 5: it's just that I had an impact on me too,

1200
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 5: just not like what NAS did.

1201
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: But now we can't we need both of those. Can't

1202
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: do that.

1203
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, we definitely need both of those.

1204
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: We can't do that. Yeah, these questions take its phone

1205
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: away fast, moll.

1206
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 4: Swift your next single, and again, keep keep in mind

1207
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,720
Speaker 4: that time does not really exist in this whole theory

1208
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 4: of this or that. All right, this has to be

1209
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 4: your next single, Prodigy, keep it thorough or Simon says,

1210
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 4: fair match.

1211
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. That's a good one. Damn well.

1212
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 5: See, Prodigy is in my top five, have a top

1213
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 5: six prodigies in there. Keep it Throws one of my

1214
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 5: favorite records ever, and fucking that fround mind shit is

1215
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 5: retarded those your next single, I'm gonna have to go

1216
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 5: with a Prodigy, keep it thorough. H that's just I'm

1217
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 5: a queen's nigga. That's just that's just your boast. Probably

1218
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 5: that's rough, that's rough game.

1219
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 2: But I'll go with keep it throws your next thing.

1220
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: That's my that's my favorite. That's one of my favorite records.

1221
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: I wrapped on a beat ninety billion times. I think

1222
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: every rapper has probably wrapped on it.

1223
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 5: That's one of my favorite records ever. You so you're

1224
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 5: doing this unfair shit, man, I.

1225
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 1: Mean, this man has to be this is Queens, This

1226
00:49:58,920 --> 00:49:59,720
Speaker 1: man has to be stopped.

1227
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna go with Simon says though, because

1228
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 4: I feel like parah Mant is probably still eating off

1229
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 4: sinks with.

1230
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 1: Simon says, it's so commercials doing this, so nuhs taking the.

1231
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 5: Simon said, yeah, yeah, I don't know, but I'm just

1232
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 5: going off like I ain't gonna lie.

1233
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,240
Speaker 1: Keep it throws one of my favorite records.

1234
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's probably, Simon said, the Top five Alchemists be two.

1235
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's It's like one of my favorite records ever. Bro.

1236
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,280
Speaker 1: When I first heard that ship, I was like, my nigger,

1237
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: what does he be thinking about? What are you smoking?

1238
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 3: You?

1239
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 5: I was so one of my dope hit by moments

1240
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 5: I did to throw you off one of my dope

1241
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 5: hit by moments, as simple as it sounds. I did

1242
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 5: a freestyle on I think it was Hell on Earth

1243
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 5: No no, or was it a shook once? One of

1244
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 5: them one of them classic mob deep beats. I did

1245
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 5: a long freestyle on the ship and I was like, yo,

1246
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 5: I called p I was like, I just want you

1247
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 5: to make a cameo in the video. I was just

1248
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 5: shooting a freestyle dolo. He's like, id bed where you at.

1249
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 5: I was in a park in Queen's he pulled up dolo.

1250
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 5: It was just me him on a park bench, just

1251
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 5: chilling a video. I thought that was the most amazing

1252
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 5: ship ever. I was like, it's me and Prodigy on

1253
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 5: a park bench in Queens in the hood.

1254
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 1: That a bear or some ship.

1255
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 2: I was like, this is amazing.

1256
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: I have a great life.

1257
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, imagine you just mind your business going to park, play.

1258
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 3: Ball or whatever.

1259
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 1: Bro. It was. I'm like this, I'm just looking at him, like, yo,

1260
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: you really Yeah he Queens.

1261
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 2: If you was ever blessed to just meet him and

1262
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 2: kick it with him, that's that's him all the way.

1263
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: I'm telling you.

1264
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 5: He pulled up dolar literally dolo on a park bench

1265
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 5: in the hood in Queens, just one camera. Man is

1266
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 5: the too dok to even get the right amount of

1267
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 5: light in. It's fucking amazing. Life is great.

1268
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 3: Did you read his book?

1269
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: Nah, but I need to you read it. Yeah.

1270
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 4: I read it, and I would actually suggest doing the

1271
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 4: audiobook because he is it's his voice, So yeah, it just.

1272
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 3: Makes the ship way better.

1273
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: But that's fine. Book. I'mnight have to check that out.

1274
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: It's one of the best ever. That's amazing. I did

1275
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: not even notice.

1276
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 4: But it's funny bringing up because in the book there's

1277
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 4: like a whole chapter of just having like begging Pete

1278
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 4: to stop hanging out in the hood like birds stop it,

1279
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 4: Like you go there every day we have money. Stop

1280
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 4: leaving our cribin Long Island to go to Queens Birds

1281
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 4: like bro.

1282
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 5: He pulled, he pulled, I was in the hood, he pulled.

1283
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 5: Loves where you are? I told him was that he

1284
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 5: pulled up wheat in the hood on a park bench.

1285
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 2: That's park bench with p I was like, that's crazy.

1286
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:26,280
Speaker 1: That was amazing.

1287
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 5: But I mean his whole family's Queen's royalty. Yeah, but

1288
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 5: I just I just enjoyed that moment so much. I

1289
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 5: was like, Wow, I'm I should be released.

1290
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 3: Yeah bird making an album produced by Havoc or Q.

1291
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 5: Two, So yeah, yeah, yeah, picking my favor again. This

1292
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 5: is hard, this is this is this is crazy.

1293
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: Ship.

1294
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 5: I gotta go with half because influenced, but Q tip

1295
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,879
Speaker 5: is gonna give me the bag with TODs Havel though

1296
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 5: but for what I became and my influences is gonna

1297
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 5: be half for that.

1298
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 4: I had another stipulation of this. They also features rappers

1299
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 4: on this joint project.

1300
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 5: Q Tip will take me around the world. This guy's

1301
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 5: not fair. He has to be stopped. He has to

1302
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 5: be stopped.

1303
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 2: Cut will have you in the day party any visa

1304
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:16,879
Speaker 2: and it's like ship have my two though, don't get

1305
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 2: a twisted. He might find one and I remember throw

1306
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 2: something on you be like.

1307
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 1: Yo, what is the main records we have?

1308
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 5: Have is on the project that I did with with

1309
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:28,800
Speaker 5: I released a collaborative project with Benny bs F and

1310
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 5: my company team Main Dope Gang. Of course stop calling

1311
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 5: art content. Have is on that joint and have his

1312
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,359
Speaker 5: on the last project can Dropt. He produced a record

1313
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 5: on this. I already know what I'm gonn give him half.

1314
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 5: It's gonna be great. I never worked with Q Tip before,

1315
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 5: but I know I'm probably gonna be on the Coach

1316
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 5: of Spain somewhere. He's on these records.

1317
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the album may never come out because Q

1318
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 3: Tip is gonna work on the.

1319
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: Next thirty years.

1320
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:52,879
Speaker 3: But when it does, have a bounce and sh.

1321
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's hilarious. But based on my influences, is probably

1322
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 5: gonna be half.

1323
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 2: I keep it a buck.

1324
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, word, you can put a verse on DJ Clue

1325
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 4: the professional album or who give fifty centers the Future?

1326
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: That's a good one too, damn hmmm, what was the question?

1327
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 4: Graft can put a verse on the professional DJ Clue

1328
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,720
Speaker 4: first actual album or who kid fifty centers the Future?

1329
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:23,879
Speaker 4: There's a graph feature on one of them.

1330
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: It's gotta be thinking. I would have never thought of them.

1331
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 1: Shit like that. Hm uh, ship balls, that's a tough

1332
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 1: one too. Professional with the Rockefeller project project, right, Yeah.

1333
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 3: That's just like the thirty times platinum.

1334
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 1: Now I think I might, I might.

1335
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 5: I might just go with that, just so I could

1336
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,359
Speaker 5: just continue to this Rockefeller ship that got going on.

1337
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 2: Yeah it ties in, Yeah, it just ties in.

1338
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 5: But Okay, that that's that's the whole That's that's my

1339
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 5: side of Queens too. That's the whole. Yeah, that shady

1340
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 5: Bell all the way to the south side, that's the whole ship.

1341
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:59,280
Speaker 5: That's the whole side offans out. Yeah, Jesus.

1342
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:02,720
Speaker 1: Twisted my arm here, buddy.

1343
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 5: But I'll probably go with the Clue because of the

1344
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 5: because of what the fun I created Yeah, that's the

1345
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 5: only reason. Yeah, the kid is shout out Ore. I

1346
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 5: just seen a nigga recently too.

1347
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 4: It's the start of your career. You can sign a

1348
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 4: Steve Stout or IRV Gotti.

1349
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 5: Shout out to earth Man recipes. Absolutely, I did three

1350
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 5: records of earth in my career. Man shout out to

1351
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:29,399
Speaker 5: earth Word. I never worked with Steve Stole before. That's

1352
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 5: not ship mm hmm.

1353
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 4: And I mean probably the best brand partnership.

1354
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna get I'm gonna have all behind me.

1355
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 5: I have PEPSI, I'm gonna have the brand punish is

1356
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 5: gonna be out there as we don't bring came word like,

1357
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:44,879
Speaker 5: I'm gonna get like this might gonna be sponsored by

1358
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 5: like with Steve Stout. Damn, I might have to go

1359
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 5: with Steve for the for that ship that I haven't

1360
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:56,399
Speaker 5: even tapped into yet career wise. And I never had

1361
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 5: an opportunity to work with Steve before I worked my nigga.

1362
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 5: That's I worked, So I already know I'm gonna give bangers.

1363
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,399
Speaker 5: IRVS is amazing. The way I learned a lie from

1364
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 5: IRV too, and a little bit of time I worked

1365
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:09,399
Speaker 5: then that asked. So I've experienced that, So I'm gonna

1366
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 5: go with Steve because I never you.

1367
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:12,919
Speaker 2: Have been doing. Yeah that makes sense.

1368
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a random question just for the room

1369
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,839
Speaker 4: in particular. Again, remember time does not exist in this

1370
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 4: whole world. Would you rather see fifty cent signed to

1371
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 4: death Row in nineteen ninety six? But like twenty five

1372
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 4: year old fifty like right when it's.

1373
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 2: Chris By six with pock and all that, Who got.

1374
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 4: Fifty signed to death Row ninety six? Or Nicki signs

1375
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 4: to Murder Inc. In two thousand and one?

1376
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,919
Speaker 5: Oh shit, now I'll go with the fifty With that one,

1377
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 5: Nicki O Murder Inc.

1378
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 3: You got if Nicki minaj and Jah rules to have

1379
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 3: some rest.

1380
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 1: Shanty like yo Nicki in O one because they were

1381
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 1: making more softer records. She was still doing hard ship then.

1382
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 4: But I mean they were the singles were that way,

1383
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:01,439
Speaker 4: but they were still there.

1384
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 1: They were still making harsh too.

1385
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:07,399
Speaker 5: Me dink, But you're putting fifty fifty already came out

1386
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 5: of the West Coast ship. He already came out with

1387
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 5: that type of energy, to be honest. That's a part

1388
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 5: of his legacy too, which he already went with that way,

1389
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 5: but less chaos so with him, with him with Pock actually,

1390
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 5: like with.

1391
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 2: Pop, Yeah, I don't know what the mentality.

1392
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: I don't think we've ever seen packed to the hood.

1393
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: Yeah cool.

1394
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 3: What I meant was queens all the time with stretched.

1395
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, Po would have brought fifty to queen you've never

1396
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 4: been over.

1397
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 3: I just think the may him. That would imagine fifty

1398
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 3: cent and shook.

1399
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 5: That would have been enough. That would have been crazy.

1400
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 5: That would have been That'd have been crazy with his

1401
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 5: mentality then that, yeah, I would have been. They would

1402
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 5: have been the industry and they fucked up Nikki with murder.

1403
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: And I never had that thought in my life that

1404
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: she even had records with them, shocking and all of that. No, right,

1405
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: she can't wait my life.

1406
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 3: I'm just thinking of Nikki.

1407
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 4: I think that would there'd be a whole different story

1408
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 4: to murder. Inc In, did you like, fifty is not

1409
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 4: getting murder ink clean out of here that easy if

1410
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 4: you have Nikki carrying the flag in the midst of

1411
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 4: that entire thing.

1412
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 5: True, But then Nicky would been making different records I'm

1413
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 5: trying to talk about, would she trying to think? Yeah,

1414
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 5: because doc something you have a shine to you have

1415
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 5: job role I'm like, I'm trying to picture in my

1416
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 5: head now, I don't know. I can't even I'm thinking

1417
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 5: about the records they made and then putting Nicki on it,

1418
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 5: and I'm like, I don't know if I wanted to

1419
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 5: hear that.

1420
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what you think I could hear.

1421
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 1: I could hear fifty in POC though, Oh did definitely

1422
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 1: because is the alignment is there? Yeah?

1423
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 2: But I just I think that NICKI would IRV and that.

1424
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 5: Would have been crazy because then nick IRV would have

1425
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 5: catered to Nicki, so to be able to create some

1426
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 5: shit that I can't even imagine. But I'm just going

1427
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 5: off what exists already.

1428
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 2: You talk about the energy with Parking.

1429
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 1: That's what I'm thinking about.

1430
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 5: The energy that they would have brought Pock fifty and

1431
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 5: show would have been some other shit and should have

1432
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:05,479
Speaker 5: been fucked up.

1433
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 1: Like locked the doors, you know what I mean.

1434
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 5: But I'm trying to think about what sound they would

1435
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 5: have created that murder inc with Nikki.

1436
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, I can't. I guess I can't imagine

1437
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: it clearly.

1438
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 3: I mean I feel like even a lot of the

1439
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 3: young money, it would have been.

1440
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 1: A different sound. It doesn't exist. It would have been different.

1441
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, it would have been because the Young Money sound

1442
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 5: and the Earth sound is different the regularly. But I

1443
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,479
Speaker 5: don't think because it's should have been a different artist

1444
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 5: by now.

1445
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 1: I think would have been something else.

1446
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 4: I don't even think Young Money sounds the same way

1447
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 4: without murder Ink though of course it's completely different sounds.

1448
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 4: But that A lot of shit that Drake Niggi and

1449
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 4: Wayne All did was the proof came from Irving Job

1450
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 4: like that true, like you could have hard raps.

1451
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 5: I feel like everybody got that formal, including fifty from

1452
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 5: Urban Jo. They invented that shit. Joe was doing the

1453
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 5: quick four bar bridges. Job was the first artist i've't

1454
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 5: seen that I was doing bridges. In the middle of

1455
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 5: his verses like that, I was like, what the fuck

1456
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 5: is this? He was doing quick full bar bridges in

1457
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 5: the beginning. In the middle he was like he had

1458
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 5: vamp outs. It were like actually like R and B records,

1459
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 5: but because of him. Yeah, so Nicky would had all

1460
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 5: those elements too, Dan, That's a good question, Ship Alls.

1461
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 2: And I think I think artists for just for the

1462
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 2: art of it. In the music.

1463
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 1: I would want to hear Nikki yeah, yeah, I guess

1464
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 1: so I would have been signing we can go with

1465
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: NICKI with that, Yeah, yeah, because I would have been

1466
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 1: she would have been. Yeah, it would have been some

1467
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: whole afic ship that I can't even imagine that. All right,

1468
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 1: fuck it, I'll tak Nikki do that.

1469
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 4: Mall has had this segment came up with the same night,

1470
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 4: same city.

1471
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: I don't know if you had some of mine.

1472
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 4: I have a few written down for your same night,

1473
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 4: same city segment. Essentially, this is these shows are happening

1474
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 4: the exact same night.

1475
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 3: In the exact same city, and you have to choose

1476
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 3: which one that you would go to.

1477
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 2: For me, no, grab somehow he would make it to both. Somehow,

1478
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 2: this guy would be at both for the shows.

1479
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 1: He'd be like, Yo, how how.

1480
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 2: Is this.

1481
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 1: Okay?

1482
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 4: Then I'll rework this one to who do you think

1483
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 4: is going to have a better show, same night, same city?

1484
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 4: All right, Queen's Ridge Reunion show or a south Side

1485
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 4: reunion show?

1486
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 1: Hold on, man, what's wrong with this guy? What are

1487
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:08,919
Speaker 1: we doing? Mal? How are we gonna stop him?

1488
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 2: Have a that's tough?

1489
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 1: Oh man?

1490
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 2: I mean me? My first my knee jerk answer is Queensbridge.

1491
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, because you got knas you got that's gonna

1492
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 5: be yeah march, Yeah, you're still get Ceenn Like I'm

1493
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 5: going still see South south Side show is fifty you

1494
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 5: got lost boys, you got onyx onyx Sho.

1495
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be there.

1496
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 5: Fuck yeah, chea code.

1497
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 1: With that because I don'na being that motherfucker leg You

1498
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 1: know you would.

1499
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 2: Be at both you the way both shows wi start

1500
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 2: at nine pm, sharp crafts be at both shows and

1501
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 2: performing at both performing. How did he get here? But

1502
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 2: I just saw him the South Side? Yeah, but not

1503
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 2: me twenty minute drive. I'm gonna do it me being you.

1504
01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 3: Know which one would you rather do? Security?

1505
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 1: Yet? Oh?

1506
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 5: Man give me they both leo they both me wold

1507
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 5: but sound says that I saw one probably gonna be

1508
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 5: will let other thing.

1509
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, queeze Ridz is a little because I feel like

1510
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 2: as head of security, I feel like I could get

1511
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 2: the nods. I'm like, yo, come on, man, like calm

1512
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 2: the fellas down the.

1513
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 1: South Side the South Side show. You not getting to

1514
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 1: nobody my com.

1515
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 4: Forgetting When all of Queen's Ridge went to Central Park

1516
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 4: and ruined that notch shut it shut Central Park down.

1517
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's because somebody didn't get the nods first

1518
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 2: to be like, yo, fam, come on, talk to the

1519
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 2: guys man.

1520
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 1: That's a good question though, Uh, I don't have to

1521
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 1: be biased to go with the South Side show Man.

1522
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 1: That's just me being biased, though, Keep it on it

1523
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 1: because I want to see both, and i'ma make it

1524
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 1: to both as twenty minute ride. I'm gonna make it

1525
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 1: to both. That's a fact. But I'm gonna be biased

1526
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 1: on that just because I'm from that. I'm on that.

1527
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 2: I think of one they had one earlier, right was

1528
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 2: it Trip Cold Quest? Oh, Trip Cold Quest? They from

1529
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 2: the north side of that? Because yeah, still the new

1530
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 2: same nice, same shity, Trip Cold Quest. Run DMC.

1531
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:06,919
Speaker 1: That's classic as fuck. I go run DMC. Yeah yeah,

1532
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 1: I might all the way classical, Yeah, go all the

1533
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 1: way classical on these niggas.

1534
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever seen.

1535
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 5: I never seen anything. I've never seen with them on

1536
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 5: the internet.

1537
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 1: You've never seen.

1538
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 4: I only saw a tribe live when they opened for

1539
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 4: the Easier show at the Garden.

1540
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 5: I never saw a tribal. I've seen Q Tip Dude performances.

1541
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 5: I never I never got the opportunity I've seen.

1542
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 2: I've in the clubs he was.

1543
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 5: He was DJing like that, him doing you know, I've

1544
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 5: seen him in action doing ship, but I never seen

1545
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 5: him perform live.

1546
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 1: Now. Yeah, they open was just like Internet. That's it.

1547
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 2: Yeah that they almost seem like but that real like

1548
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly that I've never seen them.

1549
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:47,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go run on DMC on that one.

1550
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 3: Do you think Russell will come back from from Bali Flat?

1551
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 1: Yeah? No with a mask on? Oh no, he might.

1552
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 1: I can see him doing a mask on you. I

1553
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 1: could see that before the night the night that was

1554
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 1: Russy's eyes. No, it can't be.

1555
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 2: That is crazy that that's what life is coming to.

1556
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 3: When was the last time you think Rick talked to

1557
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 3: to Russell?

1558
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 4: I feel like Rick is soona Frobly has no idea

1559
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 4: that any of that controversy has happening.

1560
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 5: They real friends, though, I would say, would think they

1561
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 5: stay in touch. Yeah, dudes, I haven't met Rick, but

1562
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 5: I think they stayed. I would think they stay in touch.

1563
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 2: I think so. I think I'm like they still they

1564
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 2: still speak for sure.

1565
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 5: I don't know, man, Yeah, because that controversy ain't not

1566
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 5: gonna fact you if you if you his real friend,

1567
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 5: you don't talk about that ship.

1568
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 1: Listen, man, Rick is not talking about You don't think so, y'all?

1569
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 4: Fucking I think so not maybe not Rick was even

1570
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 4: talking to him before all that ship, bro.

1571
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 2: Well not not every day. But I think that they

1572
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 2: still have a relationship.

1573
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 5: I don't think somebody to guess I would think, so, yeah,

1574
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 5: they still speak. I guess I would think, so yeah,

1575
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 5: you don't know which what do you think they talk about.

1576
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 2: Life?

1577
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 1: About about to I'm like, cut my mic off.

1578
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 2: Life man talking about life? You know what I mean?

1579
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 1: Like? Look forward? How far to fight the Bali.

1580
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 2: We took it?

1581
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 1: How long was.

1582
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 2: We took him off the Yeah, we got death jam

1583
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 2: Bali Depth. Jim Bally is on the way.

1584
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 5: Death Jamn Bally is hilarious. Niggas is wrapping the yoga studio.

1585
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

1586
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 4: But before we get out of here, what what what

1587
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 4: do you want to plug?

1588
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 3: Advertise everything?

1589
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 1: Single with Joiner.

1590
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 5: Coming, Yes, Single with Joining is after the one I

1591
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 5: got to join out right now with Buster It's called Juice.

1592
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 1: Shout out the Buster.

1593
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 5: We made some high energy legend fucking drill UK sounds

1594
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 5: like some UK Jamaican drill. We just invented some ship

1595
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 5: that doesn't exist and it's out now, and were shooting

1596
01:05:56,760 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 5: the video Friday. Yeah, I gonna get that. You know

1597
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Bustling my brother Men shout out to

1598
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 5: the bus. He's like my buses, Like legit, my big brother, man,

1599
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 5: I know buses. I was like seventeen, eighteen years old,

1600
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 5: man when I first met bus, I didn't know nothing

1601
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 5: about the fucking industry, fresh out the hood, and I

1602
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 5: started working with him. Actually then men dropped out of

1603
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 5: college to told with him and work with him, and

1604
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 5: we ended up having a fucking fist fight back then

1605
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 5: you were, Yeah, I was like eighteen nineteen years old.

1606
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 5: I popped into the studio and like, without telling him,

1607
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 5: he was talking to me crazy.

1608
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 1: I was like, step outside, fuck it, and he stepped outside.

1609
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 1: We got it on. Wait wait wait, oh, so the

1610
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 1: quick of a story you really have?

1611
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 2: You got mad at something, bust and said, yeah, he

1612
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 2: was talking to me because I popped up.

1613
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 1: He got mad that it showed up. Oh, you just

1614
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 1: popped up at his session.

1615
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, but because I didn't understand the industry rules and

1616
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 5: shot fucking eighteen nineteen, I don't know about nine. Yeah,

1617
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 5: he said, you can call me whenever I like bad,

1618
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 5: so I did that. He didn't pick up. So I

1619
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 5: was like, I ain't pick up. I'm just going to

1620
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 5: show up. And he was like, what are you doing here?

1621
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 5: I was like, well, nigga, you said I could pull up.

1622
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 5: He's like yeah, but I didn't pick up. I said,

1623
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 5: that's why I showed up. He was like, I didn't

1624
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 5: pick up. That means not today. And I didn't understand that.

1625
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, nigga can't pick up. So because didn't

1626
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 5: understand the industry ship at all. I'm straight in the hood.

1627
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 5: I don't know nothing, abound nothing. He was talking to

1628
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 5: me away. I didn't like it, and I said fuck

1629
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 5: the step outside and he's like all right, and he

1630
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:22,439
Speaker 5: went outside and things were left. I swung, he swung.

1631
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 5: I tried to stab with a knife for all this

1632
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 5: crazy ship.

1633
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 1: It was crazy.

1634
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 3: Wait elements.

1635
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 1: He broke a bottle.

1636
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 2: He broke about Bust the rocks.

1637
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 1: He broke a bottle. It's available, man.

1638
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 2: Yo, he said, yeah, that bust the song available.

1639
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 1: Now right now? I flock the knife. He broke a

1640
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 1: bottle like a Jamaican fucking Wes side story went.

1641
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 3: Left Jamaican What she went left?

1642
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 1: Yo, grab the most random. I'm telling you, telling you

1643
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 1: where was the Big Brother? Now?

1644
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 5: Where was the studio at? This was in the city.

1645
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 5: This is like, what's it soundtracks? One of the studios.

1646
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 4: All right, So y'all walked out to a Manhattan block.

1647
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 4: Let's get it, okay, First he came back. This first

1648
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 4: he came, he shot. He talked me off the left.

1649
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 4: He was talking sensibly to me. I didn't I couldn't

1650
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 4: register young and I was young. I couldn't understand he.

1651
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 1: Like, yo, he said.

1652
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:22,720
Speaker 5: The first thing he said was, you came in here

1653
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 5: some street ship. I'm trying to teach you some business ship.

1654
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 5: And for some reason that sounded defensive to me.

1655
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:28,679
Speaker 1: I was like, you can't teach me ship.

1656
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 2: He was like, I was just young.

1657
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 5: It was like, nigga, you came here the street ship.

1658
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 5: I'm trying to teach you how to be a business man.

1659
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 5: You're coming with the wrong energy. And for some reason

1660
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:38,600
Speaker 5: I kept taking it like just hearing it wrong. It

1661
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 5: just sounded defensive. You can't teach me nothing outside. He

1662
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 5: was like, finside with it once for outside, yeah yeah, yeah,

1663
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 5: what's square up? Or how did the physical altercation?

1664
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:54,559
Speaker 2: It was like a square up?

1665
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 1: It was a square up?

1666
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 5: Or did somebody just storm something? Id him first and

1667
01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 5: he swung, then I swung, and then when he.

1668
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 3: Did any of those lins, you're going too fast? Did

1669
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 3: any of those links the.

1670
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 1: First each other? For real?

1671
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 5: And but when he swung I kind of like stucked

1672
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 5: it and slipped. He thought he caught me. And then

1673
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:10,640
Speaker 5: I got mad because he thought he called me. Then

1674
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:12,640
Speaker 5: the knights, Yeah, we don't talk about that.

1675
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 2: Weren't talk about somebody feel like they caught you and

1676
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 2: dropped you.

1677
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 1: That's all to this knife. Time to go to the knife.

1678
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 6: He's like, you got a knife to the bottle? Was like,

1679
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 6: I know how it didn't go left? After that, nobody died,

1680
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 6: he said, the songs available. Now we lied, We lived

1681
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 6: through this, we made.

1682
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 1: It all about it.

1683
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:37,599
Speaker 4: So once the bottle was broken and the nights out,

1684
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 4: how did this situation diffuse?

1685
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 1: I don't remember that part. I just know what nobody

1686
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 1: got stabbed, which is great, that's amazing.

1687
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm so glad. I'm so glad graffing buster didn't

1688
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 2: stab each other up on the mad block.

1689
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:52,600
Speaker 4: It works out, And something tells me Buster called you

1690
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 4: the next day and forgot any of that even happened.

1691
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 1: No no, no wespe for years after that. Yeah yeah,

1692
01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 1: because he was like he wanted to sign me and

1693
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 1: he was like this niggas a liability had you?

1694
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but that's how fashion happens.

1695
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:05,280
Speaker 1: But I'm learning. See. I went from that to like

1696
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:07,640
Speaker 1: realizing certain battles don't need to be in because I

1697
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:10,720
Speaker 1: don't got the tough controls her nigga. Yeah yeah, iose

1698
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 1: my battles lost.

1699
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 3: Now I get it and bust team, you know, we

1700
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 3: want to stand graphicing.

1701
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 1: He tried to stab it, he told me.

1702
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 5: He tells the story and being like this nigga back

1703
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 5: to the knight for me, Like, nigga, you broke a

1704
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 5: bottle too, Yeah, he broke a bottle after it's not

1705
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 5: got a staff, I put out a knife.

1706
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:26,760
Speaker 1: He was like, oh, ship that nigga ran for.

1707
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 2: Trying to stab me back, and only Buster could break

1708
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:36,679
Speaker 2: a bottle perfectly and perfect amount of spike.

1709
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 1: You ever tried that?

1710
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 2: You ever tried to break up the whole ship break? Like,

1711
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:42,120
Speaker 2: I don't have nothing to staff nobody with. How do

1712
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 2: you break it so perfectly?

1713
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:45,640
Speaker 1: It's like it's a point that got making. It worked out, yo.

1714
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 2: That is fucking song available now, song available now, video video,

1715
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 2: shoot this Friday.

1716
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 1: That's a fact, yo.

1717
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 2: Listen man, Life is it was wonderful, Life is beautiful.

1718
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:55,560
Speaker 4: I guess we have to ask the same question we

1719
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 4: asked everyone that has a relationship with Buster, Where where

1720
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 4: do you rate him in the top five dappers of

1721
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 4: all time?

1722
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 2: A bunch of sh Buster shake your hand, He'll break

1723
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 2: your fucking hands. Shoulder elba, yeah, Bust to give you

1724
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 2: that that.

1725
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 1: Real with the mad diamond ring. Yes, go yeah, you.

1726
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 2: Gotta be p paid to shake Buster the hand.

1727
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:17,000
Speaker 1: Buster actually in my top five.

1728
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 5: I mean I need to have a top seven because

1729
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 5: I got a lot of my headens and flows and

1730
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 5: delivery from Bust the way I construct records A lot

1731
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 5: of ka from Buss. I took a lot of what

1732
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 5: I do from the way he constructs records a lot

1733
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 5: of it.

1734
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 3: Or you said Prodigy was in your top six seven?

1735
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 5: The top seven it because it's I got nas, j

1736
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 5: Royce and Jade Kiss, Prodigy and Buster, all the niggas.

1737
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 1: My top five is the top seven.

1738
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 5: That's a very interesting top se word like most niggas

1739
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:47,599
Speaker 5: don't got Royce in the top five.

1740
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 1: Royce is in my top five. Then Nigga's amazing. I

1741
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 1: got Royce and m in my top they both with

1742
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:54,760
Speaker 1: all the people influenced what I do. I can see that.

1743
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 5: I could kind of see all. Yeah, all the niggas

1744
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 5: is put them in a pot on loads. It's like

1745
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:04,719
Speaker 5: bam graph here. All their influences is in the music.

1746
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 2: I can hear it.

1747
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 1: Prodigy.

1748
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 5: Prodigy lines are quoted in my songs to the current day.

1749
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:10,600
Speaker 5: You could play anyone and be like, oh, that's a

1750
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 5: Prodigy line. All in the music current day. Still Prodigy's

1751
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 5: just the guy.

1752
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 1: He was that guy. Absolutely.

1753
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 4: When's last time you talked to Shyla buff right before

1754
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 4: we get out there a couple months ago?

1755
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, how's he doing? I don't know.

1756
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 5: I love that guy though, ago, I don't know how

1757
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:26,720
Speaker 5: I love that guy. He be with the smoke. Yeah,

1758
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 5: I thinking about it, he raps, So you get busy.

1759
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 5: We know we've seen but we've heard it.

1760
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 2: We've heard it.

1761
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 5: As a matter of fact, did you hear this song?

1762
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 5: I did call thirty six Chambers. I called him to

1763
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 5: do the treatment. He wrote a crazy treatment for that record.

1764
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 5: I was like, that's how I ran in my mond.

1765
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 5: I was like what this video like a Shila Buff

1766
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 5: directed it. Yeah, and he wrote a crazy treatment. He

1767
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 5: had a crazy he was just too busy to do it.

1768
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 5: Nuts nuts, He's nuts. He typed it all out.

1769
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 2: We could do this almost Bust Rhymes, and he has

1770
01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:59,799
Speaker 2: a treatment for a song from Shilah Buff. This niggas

1771
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 2: the more random dude, but most necessary dude in city.

1772
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, Graph, thank you for coming through my brother.

1773
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:12,760
Speaker 2: Long overdue, long overdue, always good to see you, my guy. Juice,

1774
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 2: what is it?

1775
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 1: Juice? Juice available now?

1776
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 2: Preature and Buster Rhymes and bust the chimney that game.

1777
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 4: I think I just reenact to that scene for the video,

1778
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 4: like you want me to write a treatment.

1779
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:27,760
Speaker 1: Just told us the treatment for what the video should be.

1780
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 2: You'll step outside, Step outside, could everything that was breaking?

1781
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:37,360
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