1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 2 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hagen and now I'm lak Simiteo Lisa. 3 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 3: We begin with the latest on trade. We are just 4 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 3: a day away from a key meeting between the US 5 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 3: and China. The talks will take place in Geneva, led 6 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 3: by Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant and Chinese Vice Premier Hallifang. 7 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 3: We get more from Bloomberg News Senior editor Derek Wallbank. 8 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 4: I think the magic word is de escalation. That's what 9 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 4: Scott Besson said that the US negotiators are going to 10 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 4: try and come away with was a de escalation that 11 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 4: could potentially set the frame for future trade talks. And 12 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 4: so that's really where I'm sort of watching right now. 13 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 4: I'm not looking for this to come out of Switzerland 14 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 4: on the high side scenario with a full comprehensive deal 15 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 4: or the outlines of what could be one. But what 16 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 4: you're looking for is a possibility of seeing concrete steps 17 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 4: to kind of take down the temperature and the relationship. 18 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 3: Bloomberg's Eric Wallbank says one of those steps the Trump 19 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 3: administration is considering is a significant tariff reduction to ease 20 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 3: economic pain and de escalate tensions. We're told the US 21 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 3: aims to reduce tariffs below sixty percent as a first step, and. 22 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 5: Nathan that China talks come after President Trump announced the 23 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 5: first framework of a deal and his global trade war 24 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 5: with the UK. 25 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 6: The final details of being written up in the coming weeks. 26 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 6: We'll have it all very conclusive, but the actual deal 27 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 6: is a very conclusive one. We think just about everything's 28 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 6: been approved. 29 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 5: President Trump's agreement gives the US increase market access, while 30 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 5: the UK will see limited relief on auto, steel and 31 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 5: aluminum tariffs, a baseline ten percent tariff rate will stay 32 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 5: in effect. John Alty is a former Director General for 33 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 5: Trade Policy at the UK Department for International Trade. He 34 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 5: says a deal falls short of a full and comprehensive 35 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 5: trade agreement. 36 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 7: It's quite limited in its scope, and obviously both sides 37 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 7: are saying that it should be the start of a 38 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 7: wider negotiation, so we look forward to seeing that. 39 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 5: John Alte, now a senior advisor at page Field, says 40 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 5: full trade negotiations typically take years to complete. 41 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 3: Well, Lisa, one US company may be starting to see 42 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 3: the benefits of the US UK trade framework, bloombergs John 43 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,839 Speaker 3: Tucker joins US with that which company John. 44 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 8: Boeing has an order from IAG. This is the parent 45 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 8: of British Airways Nathan for thirty two Boeing seven eighty 46 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 8: seven to ten aircraft and there's also an option to 47 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 8: top up the deal with as many as ten additional 48 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 8: Boeing seven eighty sevens. So this provides a much needed 49 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 8: shot of confidence to the embattled planemaker. IAG is Boeing's 50 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 8: largest customer in the UK. Now Boeing is the largest 51 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 8: US exporter of manufactured goods. It has been a target 52 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 8: for countries stung by the wide ranging tariffs rolled down 53 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 8: by the Trump administration. A China, one of the world's 54 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 8: largest aircraft makers that has stopped taking deliveries, and the 55 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 8: European Union is proposed tariffs on American made jets if 56 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 8: its own talks with the US. Sputter shares a Boing 57 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 8: gut and over three percent boost in Thursday's trading in 58 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 8: New York. I'm John Tucker Bloomberg Radio. 59 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 5: Thank you, John. It was a historic moment at the 60 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 5: Vatican Abe Muspapaman for the first time an American is 61 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 5: the leader of the world's one point four billion Roman Catholics. 62 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 5: This morning, the former Cardinal Robert Francis Provost is celebrating 63 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 5: his first Mass as Pope Leo the fourteenth. He set 64 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 5: the tone in his first words to the faithful at 65 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 5: Saint Peter's Square, we have to be. 66 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 6: A church that works together, meet them, to bill bridges 67 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 6: and to keep our arms open like this very piazza, welcoming. 68 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 5: Pope Leo speaking there through an interpreter. We get more 69 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 5: from Bloomberg Italy Bureau chief Kiara Albaniz. 70 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 9: He has shown to already say and speak his mind 71 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 9: very loudly in the past that he said publicly that 72 00:03:55,880 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 9: Vice President Vance was wrong about his assessment of the 73 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 9: Catholic law. So we should expect that bridges will be 74 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 9: built on some issues, but also bridges will be tested 75 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 9: on some others. 76 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 5: And that was Bloomberg's Kara albany Is reporting from Rome. 77 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 10: Lisa. 78 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 3: Tensions continue to escalate between India and Pakistan. Soldiers exchanged 79 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 3: heavy volleys of shelling and gunfire across their frontier in 80 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 3: Kashmir overnight, killing at least five civilians. The nuclear armed 81 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 3: rivals have seen tensions sore since an attack on a 82 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 3: popular tourist site in Indian controlled Kashmir, left twenty six 83 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 3: civilians dead last month. New Delhi has blamed Pakistan for 84 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 3: backing the attack and accusation Islamabad rejects. 85 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 5: And Nathan back here. In the US, President Trump is 86 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 5: looking for a tax hike on millionaires. Bloomberg's Amy Morris 87 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 5: has more from Washington. 88 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 11: President Trump is pushing lawmakers to increase tax rates on 89 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 11: some of the wealthiest Americans, sources tell Bloomberg. The president's 90 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 11: proposal calls for creating a thirty nine point six percent 91 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 11: tax bracket for anyone earning at least two and a 92 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 11: half million dollars or couples making five million dollars. Commerce 93 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 11: Secretary Howard Lutnick tells Balance of Power this will help 94 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 11: pay for the president's proposed tax cut. 95 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 12: Remember he cut it from thirty nine point six to 96 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 12: thirty seven, So if he just goes back to what 97 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 12: he did last time, you know, I'm in favor of that. 98 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 12: I think it's smart as long as it's a redistribution. 99 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 11: Lawmakers are expected to take up the tax package next 100 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 11: week in Washington. Amy Moore as Bloomberg Radio. 101 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 3: Amy, Thanks, Let's turn to corporate news now, Bloomberg News 102 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,679 Speaker 3: has learned the UBS is telling bankers to stop flying 103 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 3: business class on short trips to China. The move comes 104 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 3: as deal making and capital markets activity in China has 105 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 3: slowed significantly amid escalating US trade tensions, and we're starting 106 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:44,239 Speaker 3: to see. 107 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 5: The impact tariffs are having on global travel. Expedia posted 108 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 5: weaker than expected gross bookings for the first three months 109 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 5: of the year. The travel company CEO cited weaker than 110 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 5: expected demand to to and from the US. The stock 111 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 5: is down more than nine percent in early trading. 112 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 3: Then, Lisa, the City that Never sleeps, is looking a 113 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 3: bit sleepier, at least when it comes to international tourism. 114 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 3: Bloomberg's Tom Busby has more. 115 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 13: New York City officials slashing their forecast for the number 116 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 13: of visitors coming to the Big Apple from outside the 117 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 13: US by seventeen percent in twenty twenty five, and they're 118 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 13: blaming President Trump's tariffs and hardline policies on immigration. City 119 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 13: officials perdict twelve point one million foreign travelers will visit 120 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 13: this year. That's down from a forecast for fourteen point 121 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 13: six million just six months ago. The biggest hit will 122 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 13: likely come from our neighbors to the north. United Airlines says, 123 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 13: visits to New York City from Canada by air We're 124 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 13: down seven percent in just the first four months of 125 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 13: this year compared to a year ago. Tom busby Bloomberg Radio, It. 126 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 5: Is timing now for a look at some of the 127 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,679 Speaker 5: other stories making news in New York and around the world. 128 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 5: For that, we're joined by Bloomberg's Michael bar Good morning, Michael. 129 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 10: Good morning Lisa. The Trump administration announced a plan to 130 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 10: overhaul the air traffic control system after deadly plane crashes 131 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 10: and technical failures at airports, including at Newark. Transportation Secretary 132 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 10: Sean Duffy says, it's time to fix the system. 133 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 14: This is going to allow us to better manage the airspace, 134 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 14: to allow the airlines to better manage their flight so 135 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 14: when you take off, you actually fly, and you land, 136 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 14: you don't circle airports. 137 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 10: President Trump joined Duffy on the phone for the announcement. 138 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 6: The ancient infrastructures buckling under the weight of more than 139 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 6: a billion flying passages a year and supporting hundreds of 140 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 6: billions of dollars. 141 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 10: How much it will all cost wasn't immediately revealed. Congress 142 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 10: must sign off on the upgrades. President Trump called for 143 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 10: a thirty day ceasefire between Russia and Ukraine to pave 144 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 10: the way for talks on a lasting peace agreement, and 145 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 10: threaten to impose further sanctions if a truce is violated. 146 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 10: President Trump's comments contradicted his Vice President JD. Vance, who 147 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 10: said the US has to focus on a long term settlement. 148 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 10: A former model has testified that Harvey Wine Einstein sexually 149 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 10: assaulted her when she was sixteen years old, calling it 150 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 10: the most horrifying thing I ever experienced to that point. 151 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 10: Kaya Socola, toad jurors at Weinstein's reed trial, graphic details 152 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 10: about her encounter with the one time movie mogul at 153 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 10: a Manhattan apartment in two thousand and two. Weinstein is 154 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 10: not charged with any crime in connection with the alleged assault. 155 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 10: Socola is testifying because Weinstein is charged with forcing oral 156 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 10: sex on her at a Manhattan hotel four years later. 157 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 10: Weinstein is pleaded not guilty to all of the charges 158 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 10: and denies sexually assaulting anyone. Former First Lady Barbara Bush 159 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 10: is now on a postage stamp, who was unveiled at 160 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 10: the White House Thursday. Daughter Doro Bush Cook called it 161 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 10: a fitting tribute. 162 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 15: Our family is I measurely blessed to call Barbara Bush 163 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 15: our mom. Her legacy lives on not only in history boats, 164 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 15: but in the hearts of everyone she touched. 165 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 10: The first day of issue for the Barbara Bush postage 166 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 10: stamp will be June tenth. Global News twenty four hours 167 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 10: a day and whenever you wanted with Bloomberg News. Now, 168 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 10: I'm Michael Barren. This is Bloomberg, Lisa. 169 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 5: Thank you, Michael. Ks time now for a Bloomberg Sports update. 170 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 5: For that, we bring in John stash Hour. 171 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 10: Hey John, Thanks Lisa. 172 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: The Washington Capitol's top seeds in the NHL Eastern Conference 173 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: looks sluggish at a game one overtime loss at home 174 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: to Carolina Veteran Game two Caps beat the Canes three 175 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: to one, series tie to one another comeback by Edmonton. 176 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: The Oilers lost their first two playoff games. They've won 177 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: six in a rows since have trailed in all six, though, 178 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: though they then led at Vegas four to two, third 179 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: period of the game went to overtime. 180 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 10: Here's for data working past Tacket. 181 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 5: Nick Tables, stop. 182 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 9: Nick Table and tri sid. 183 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: On Tom par for the game winner heatman Tim who 184 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: lives in it overtime on ESPN, the two Stars hookup 185 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 1: Boilers beating the Golden Knights five for the the series 186 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: to nothing NBA Playoffs Minnesota Bean Golden State one, seventeen 187 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 1: to ninety three. That series one to one. Indiana is 188 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: up to nothing home tonight for Cleveland, who is apparently 189 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: getting its three injured players back for a must win 190 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: Game three. Darius Garland, Eric Mobley and DeAndre Hunter all 191 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: missed Game two. The next shockingly up to nothing have 192 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: Game three with the Celtics tomorrow afternoon at the Garden, 193 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: where the Knicks have lost their last two, but on 194 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: the road five and oh five wins by a total 195 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: of only ten points. Tom Thibodeau's team keeps pulling games out. 196 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 16: Always have the belief I think in each other. You know, 197 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 16: I think you get you get to the playoffs. It's 198 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 16: about really your mental toughness, your defense, and your teamwork 199 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 16: and always having the belief that you could do something 200 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 16: better and you could find a way to win. 201 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: Celtics star Jason Tainam admitted yesterday he needs to play 202 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: better Yankees tonight in the place they've never been before, Sacramento, 203 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: to play the Ads much improved second place in the 204 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: AL West NL Division leaders meet at City Field. Mets 205 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: take on the Cubs. Pirates are twelve twenty six. They 206 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: fired manager Derek Shelton. Chat Lemon, who played center field 207 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: for sixteen seasons, has died at seventy a three time 208 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: All Star a part of the nineteen eighty four championship 209 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: team in Detroit. John Stashawer of Bloomberg Sports, Lisa and Nathan. 210 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 14: Coast to Coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, and. 211 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 13: Around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the Bloomberg 212 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 13: Business app. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 213 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 3: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. After announcing a framework trade 214 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 3: deal with the United Kingdom, President Trump says he's looking 215 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 3: for more. 216 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 6: We have many meetings planned today and tomorrow, and every 217 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 6: country wants to be making deals. 218 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 3: Perhaps the biggest meetings of all begin tomorrow, when Treasury 219 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 3: Secretary Scott Bessant and the US Trade Representative sit down 220 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 3: with officials from China for the first trade talk since 221 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 3: both countries slap triple digit tariffs on each other. For 222 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 3: more ahead of the talks in Geneva, We're joined by 223 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 3: Bloomberg News Senior editor Bill ferries Bill. 224 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 10: This this really is the big. 225 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 3: One, isn't it. 226 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 14: Good morning, Good morning, Nathan, Thanks for having me. 227 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 8: It really is. 228 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 14: We were wondering for weeks when either side might show 229 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 14: a little bit of flexibility here the with its one 230 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 14: hundred and forty five percent tariffs on China and China 231 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 14: with its one hundred and twenty five percent tariffs on 232 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 14: the US. Both sides have made some exceptions to those, 233 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 14: but the reality is that a lot of bilateral trade 234 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 14: has been slowing down or stopping completely, and both sides 235 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 14: are feeling the pain economically. So there's going to be 236 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 14: a lot of interest in how these talks progress, what 237 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 14: really might come out of them. I think the most 238 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 14: important thing is that they're happening. I don't think there's 239 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 14: a lot of expectations of a big breakthrough trade deal, 240 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 14: but there is talk on the US side. We've done 241 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 14: some reporting on this that the Trump administration would love 242 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 14: to see find an agreement where they could come out 243 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 14: with tariffs cut a little bit more than in half, 244 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 14: so down in the perhaps under sixty percent range, which 245 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 14: would be a breakthrough if China follows through with it. 246 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 14: So that's I think what the markets will be trying 247 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 14: to look for, as well as signs that the talks 248 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 14: will continue after this weekend's meetings in Switzerland. 249 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 3: A breakthrough like that would be pretty significant given the 250 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 3: fact that we've heard from President Trump telling reporters that 251 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 3: he wouldn't lower tariff rates to jump start talks. Does 252 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 3: does our reporting contradict that or something else? 253 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 14: Well, the President's, you know, the comments have been kind 254 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 14: of all over the place. He has said that he's 255 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 14: not willing to back down. Our reporting shows that there 256 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 14: are at least officials on the Trump administration side looking 257 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 14: to try to get tariffs potentially below sixty percent as 258 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 14: a first step that China would presumably try to follow 259 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 14: up on in match. So the Chinese side as well 260 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 14: is basically said that they want to see the US 261 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 14: rescind what it considers to be these unwarranted tariffs before 262 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 14: it any steps at all. But I think the reality 263 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 14: is both sides are going to be trying to show 264 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 14: perhaps a little bit of flexibility coming out of these talks. 265 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 3: Does the announcement of the framework deal with the UK 266 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 3: yesterday bill provide a springboard for the US heading into 267 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 3: these talks? How could what we saw from the UK 268 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 3: yesterday play into what comes this weekend in Geneva. 269 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 14: Well, I think what it does do is show that 270 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 14: despite I think a lot of marketing by the White House, 271 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 14: these are really framework deals. They are not full complete 272 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 14: trade agreements in any sort of normal sense. What we 273 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 14: see with the UK is that there was some agreement 274 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 14: on market access for a few goods from the US, 275 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 14: including some agricultural goods. There was a reduction in tariffs 276 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 14: for US imports of British automobiles, but a lot of 277 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 14: the big questions were left hanging. Those are going to 278 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 14: take months, if not longer, to deal with. That includes 279 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 14: the digital services tax from the UK. That includes food 280 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 14: regulations that the US has wanted the UK to ease 281 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 14: up on. The really tough details are yet to be 282 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 14: worked out. I would expect the same from anything that 283 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 14: comes out of these talks in China. There might be 284 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 14: some sort of broad agreement, but they're not going to 285 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 14: get into the nitty gritty that might take potential years. 286 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 3: Does that hinted more nitty gritty to come for some 287 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 3: of the other trade negotiations that we're hearing are happening 288 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 3: from the likes of South Korea and Japan got about 289 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 3: a minute left. 290 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 14: Yeah, absolutely. I mean we heard Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick 291 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 14: saying that is they're very far away from announcing a 292 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 14: big deal with countries like Japan or India. Those are 293 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 14: countries that have been much higher on the list earlier. 294 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 14: The reality is, you know, the President put a ninety 295 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 14: day reprieve on those reciprocal tariffs that he announced on 296 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 14: April second. We are almost halfway through that ninety day period. 297 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 14: This UK Framework agreement is the first sign of light 298 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 14: in the ton that we've seen. 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