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Speaker 1: Ohio steps down to down down time. Good afternoon and

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Speaker 1: welcome to Archerd Park. Welcome to One Bills Live. We're

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Speaker 1: right next door to New Ara Field for our next

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Speaker 1: three hours. John Murphy was Steve Tasker, One Bills Live,

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Speaker 1: coming to you from Buffalo Bill's headquarters here in Ope.

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon, everybody, Steve is here. We got a good

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Speaker 1: the last fifteen twenty minutes or so. You know the story, right.

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Speaker 1: Poncho biya As were Castro from Texas, tremendous Bills fan

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Speaker 1: over the place, passed away apparently this morning. The tweet

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Speaker 1: came out from his Twitter site Pancho Billa about fifteen

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Speaker 1: our dear brother, Ezra Pancho Billa this morning. We are

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Speaker 1: thankful and forever grateful for all the love and support

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Speaker 1: during this journey. Ezra was surrounded by family and loved ones.

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Speaker 1: At this time. We asked for privacy as we mourn

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Speaker 1: our loss, and Bill's president Kim Pogula moments ago issued

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Speaker 1: She says, Poncho was a pillar of positive strength and

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Speaker 1: energy for me and all of Bill's mafia. He's been

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Speaker 1: a tremendous inspiration for our team. I was fortunate enough

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Speaker 1: My heart goes out to his children, friends and family.

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Speaker 1: Viva lost Bills, and it's very sad. And see if

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Speaker 1: I never had the honor or pleasure to meet Poncho Bia.

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Speaker 1: and Bill's players. Quite frankly, Poncho Bia came and spoke

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Speaker 1: York last year. The night before, he was at the

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Speaker 1: After that was a game, of course, when Matt Barkley

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Speaker 1: and it's obviously he became more than just some guy

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Speaker 1: I think it was a It was a great cause

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Speaker 1: the bottom of the two o'clock hour two thirty another

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Speaker 1: Will the Bills finish in the top five in defense

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Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen? On the Twitter poll? Got three hundred

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Speaker 1: I know what they accomplished this last year was real.

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Speaker 1: It counts, even though people try to poke holes in it.

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Speaker 1: Whatever you know, well, teams would run up big scores

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Speaker 1: the difference is, you know, this is a defense where

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Speaker 1: in his four three defense you want guys to ed.

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Speaker 1: Oliver is supposed to and is good at playing on

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Speaker 1: the other side of the line of scrimmage. He's going

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Speaker 1: to force that guard or that or the tackle, and

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Speaker 1: the guard or the guard center to really close down

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Speaker 1: and keep him from getting through the gap. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's so fast, so explosive, that's his forte. And when

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Speaker 1: that's what crushes an offense is when you get defensive

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Speaker 1: lineman in the backfield right away, quick penetration is the

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Speaker 1: is the offense's worst nightmare. And that's exactly why Ed

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Speaker 1: Oliver was such a good get for the Bills, and

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Speaker 1: he's why he fits into that scheme that they're trying

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Speaker 1: to do it. He's just it's just a perfect fit.

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Speaker 1: And I've got high hopes for him as well. But

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Speaker 1: when you look around, that's it, man, that's the new guy.

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Speaker 1: You can say you brought around E. EJ. Gaines back. Sure,

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Speaker 1: you brought in uh, Matt Milano back from injury, right,

447
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Speaker 1: Matt Malone. And you got the corner from Houston and

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Speaker 1: his name is Kevin Johnson is there. So they've got

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Speaker 1: some guys to rotate in at corner. They've got a

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Speaker 1: competition out at corner opposite Tradavious White. Best man stand

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Speaker 1: is gonna go. But you know this defense is coming back,

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Speaker 1: and you can say intact and I think that puts

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a positive spin on it. A

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Speaker 1: lot of people say they down, they're stagnant, right, I

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Speaker 1: mean edge the only addition that they've got they better

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Speaker 1: come back and bounce back really strong. We'll see that's

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Speaker 1: gonna be Trent. Trent Murphy is gonna that, right, Trent Murphy. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Trent Murphy's gonna be back. You've got all these guys.

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Speaker 1: Shack Lawson's gonna be back with a little chip on

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Speaker 1: his shoulder. They did not pick up his fifth year option.

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Speaker 1: They've got these guys that we're kind of just okay

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Speaker 1: at rushing the passer. Jerry Hughes around the league and

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Speaker 1: on all of on all the analytics sites, Jerry Hughes

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Speaker 1: a really good pass rusher. He had a nice year

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Speaker 1: last year, but because he didn't have much help and

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Speaker 1: because teams weren't throwing the football all that much against

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Speaker 1: the Bills, you know how much is he gonna get done?

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Speaker 1: So this is a defensive without Ed Oliver. This defense

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Speaker 1: probably took a step backwards because of Kyle. Yeah, because

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Speaker 1: of Kyle, but Oliver. I think it's Oliver. I think

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Speaker 1: it gives you enough hope to say, you know what,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be all right up there. So gona be more,

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Speaker 1: but it is all right? Is okay? Is the same

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Speaker 1: defense this year gonna be as good as the same

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Speaker 1: defensive year ago. That's a big question, Yeah, because you

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Speaker 1: always feel like you want to get better, not say

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Speaker 1: the same top five defense. Will let you answer that question.

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Speaker 1: The phone lines open at eight oh three h five

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Speaker 1: fifty or toll free from outside Buffalo one eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty, Or you can weigh

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Speaker 1: in on Twitter, voting our Twitter poll, or sending a tweet.

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Speaker 1: We might read it on the tweet sheet. We're going

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Speaker 1: right to an expert, a defensive expert, in just a

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Speaker 1: minute here on the show, Bill Safety Micah High talk

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Speaker 1: to him about that question and several other issues as well.

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Speaker 1: Come on back, We're just getting started One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Health from One Bill's Drive. And this

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Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back. It's One Bill's Live

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Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive, John Murphy and Steve Tancer with

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Speaker 1: a special guest, just off the field after the offseason

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Speaker 1: conditioning program. Happy to have veteran safety Micah Hide with us. Hello, Michael,

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Speaker 1: thanks you God, thanks thank you having me a little

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Speaker 1: sad the news came out just about forty five minutes

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Speaker 1: ago about ezrac Castro Pancho Via, who you had some

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Speaker 1: contact with over the last year or so. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I talked to him a few times the last couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks. Just send our condolences. You know. It's sad.

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Speaker 1: Huge part of Bills Mafia, and you know our football team.

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Speaker 1: He came and talked to us last year in New

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Speaker 1: York and it was just the speech that he gave us.

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Speaker 1: This inspired, I mean went out there and we had

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Speaker 1: one of our best games of the year. Just the

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Speaker 1: inspiration that he brought us. And you know, prayers go

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Speaker 1: out to him and his family. It's it's just super sad.

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Speaker 1: Remember that postgame locker room. I was in there doing

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Speaker 1: interviews after the Jets win MetLife Stadium. Right from the stuff,

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Speaker 1: first guy I talked to, Zay Jones, started talking about

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Speaker 1: Pacho be and speech and before it was kind of

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Speaker 1: the theme of the whole of the whole POSTGAMEI yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean we all we all knew about him, but

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Speaker 1: when he actually came and spoke in front of us,

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Speaker 1: it was it was totally different. Uh. It was funny

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Speaker 1: because I was telling my wife about this that. You know,

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Speaker 1: he first got in front of the whole team, um,

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Speaker 1: and he started speaking Spanish and everybody's lookingature like, yo,

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Speaker 1: what is he knows? No one in here knows Fanish, right,

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Speaker 1: and then he just started laughing at No, I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 1: I know you guys don't know the Spanish. So um,

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Speaker 1: that was it was pretty funny. Icebreaker. Yeah, that's one

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Speaker 1: of the things that now that you're back here, we

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Speaker 1: got back. We were just jabbing each other about the

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Speaker 1: bad weather. You're coming back here. Listen, you may as

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Speaker 1: well come in and work und day like today, right,

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Speaker 1: you guys have got a lot to do, you said, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we uh, you know, guys are in the locker room

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Speaker 1: right now. You know, we're done with our workouts for

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Speaker 1: the day. But it's just you know, being around here,

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Speaker 1: you getting extra workout in being around the guys coming together.

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Speaker 1: We having a lot of new faces, so it's good

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Speaker 1: to uh, you know, whether you want to go bowling,

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Speaker 1: go hit some golf balls, do whatever, learn learn a

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Speaker 1: lot about each other. Our thing today is we're asking

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Speaker 1: you guys had a really nice statistical year last year

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Speaker 1: and yards given up number two overall in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and our Twitter poll of the day is can the

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Speaker 1: Bills be a top five defense again this next year?

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Speaker 1: And you had some interesting insights, so I said, and

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Speaker 1: you said, yeah, but we got a lot to work on.

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Speaker 1: What we got a lot to work on, you know, defensive,

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Speaker 1: I think I had a lot to work on. You

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Speaker 1: know myself, I feel like I have a lot to

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Speaker 1: work on. Everybody in the locker room, you know, on

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Speaker 1: the defense can say that. So I think that that's

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Speaker 1: what we can try to build off. But our defense

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Speaker 1: last year, you know, we feel like we yeah, we

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Speaker 1: finished second in total yards, but our red zone defense

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Speaker 1: was awful. Uh, you know, we felt like from we

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Speaker 1: took a step back from the year before. Um so

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Speaker 1: has something to build off of. We know, you know

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Speaker 1: a lot hasn't changed on this defense, but you know,

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Speaker 1: nothing's handed to you in this league. You know, you

552
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Speaker 1: gotta go out there every single week, every single year

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Speaker 1: and and make a statement. So that's what we're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to do. What's the key to good red zone defense?

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Speaker 1: Do you think communication? It's as simple as that comes down.

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Speaker 1: Decisions are made so fast, you know, the quarterback has

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Speaker 1: a split second if it's a past place to get

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Speaker 1: the ball out. UM, So you gotta be able to

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Speaker 1: communicate on defense and know you know what routes might

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Speaker 1: possibly be coming, who where your help is, and so

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Speaker 1: it just comes out of communication and film study. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: One of the things about that the field shrinks, so's

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Speaker 1: it should be harder and the gaps gets smaller and small,

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Speaker 1: but it also gets tougher for the defense because the

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Speaker 1: offense is on that the ball's coming out quick. There's

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Speaker 1: less rooms, so they're not gonna like wait for the

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Speaker 1: route to come open. You gotta let it go. So

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Speaker 1: you're right, it happens faster. And the windows because their

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Speaker 1: field is small, the windows are smaller. You gotta make

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Speaker 1: decisions faster as a dB. I mean it's I do

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Speaker 1: I like them getting down on them its own know

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Speaker 1: because you know they hopefully they don't. UM. But like

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Speaker 1: you say, everything is so much faster, and we honest

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Speaker 1: can let the We can let the receivers. We got

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Speaker 1: at the tight ends. Whoever run past us because you

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Speaker 1: know there's the back of the end zone, so you

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Speaker 1: know they're gonna to elevate the throw and you know

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Speaker 1: when we have a it seems like a seven five

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Speaker 1: middle linebacker. You know the ball, it's probably going to

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Speaker 1: say out the endia end zone for mean yay, it's interest.

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Speaker 1: I always I said this when I was watching games

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Speaker 1: in the booth and analyzt. Do you guys think about

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Speaker 1: the fact that the field gets changes shape because it

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Speaker 1: gets it gets short and wide rather than long, like

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Speaker 1: you know, like they're on their own goal line. It's

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Speaker 1: a long, narrow field, but when you get down into

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Speaker 1: your end of it, it becomes a fat, short, wide field.

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Speaker 1: And that's where that and that's how everything. How does

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Speaker 1: that change your mentality? Um, you gotta play to the

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Speaker 1: goal line. You gotta you know, most teams like to

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Speaker 1: either you know, get immediately to the goal line, or

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Speaker 1: they throw you know, the back shoulders or the fade

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Speaker 1: balls to the pylons, or you gotta worry about the

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Speaker 1: field goal post. That's kind of the areas that teams

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Speaker 1: like the workforce. So if you know that as a defense,

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Speaker 1: the field shrinks and you kind of defend those areas.

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Speaker 1: It's mete. You don't even play for four months, but

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Speaker 1: you guys are already at work on these kind of

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Speaker 1: issues in the film room and oh yeah, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're all, you know, we we're not playing games and

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Speaker 1: and preparing for other teams, so we're you know, we're

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Speaker 1: watching film from previous years and seeing what we can

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Speaker 1: do to get better. Is it true that at this

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Speaker 1: time of year, like you said, you're you're thinking about

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Speaker 1: other teams what they're doing. Now it's about you, And

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Speaker 1: that's kind of what you watch yourselves on film. You're

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Speaker 1: looking what you're creating scenarios of what you did well

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Speaker 1: and what you did wrong. What And you said, you

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Speaker 1: know your red zone defense was awful last year. What

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Speaker 1: are the steps that you're gonna have to do to

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Speaker 1: take care of that? He says, it's a communication issue. Well,

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Speaker 1: we uh, you know, obviously we're gonna install um our

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Speaker 1: red zone packages here soon, and you know from there

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Speaker 1: we are going to take them out to OTAs and

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Speaker 1: practice against the offense. And I think our offense is

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Speaker 1: a good job of doing exactly what I just said.

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Speaker 1: You know, they attack those areas on the field very well. Um.

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Speaker 1: But then you also got to throw in the run game. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, you want to see her talk about past

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Speaker 1: past pass and they might you know, run a little draw,

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Speaker 1: run a little yeah. Yeah, and and that's when you

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Speaker 1: have to try to defend the quarterback. Also if it's

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Speaker 1: scrambling quarterback or you know, the running back. So, um,

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Speaker 1: a lot of teams are you know it's quesally in

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00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: this league, are getting to the little scat back guys

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Speaker 1: and send them on a jet motion to kind of

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Speaker 1: mess up the defense's eye. So there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: stuff you gotta worry about. And and um, yeah, the

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Speaker 1: advantage is ours when the field gets smaller. But also

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Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of different ways the offense

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Speaker 1: can try to get in With Bill Safety Micah Hyde

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Speaker 1: in studio with us for a couple of minutes here

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Speaker 1: to hear you talk. Now, you're into your fifth week

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Speaker 1: of the off season conditioning program. You guys are here

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Speaker 1: essentially four or five days a week. Is this mostly

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Speaker 1: when I hear you talk about your thoughts on how

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Speaker 1: to get better on defense? I'm wondering, is this a

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Speaker 1: mental exercise that you got going on here or is

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Speaker 1: it really conditioning? Well, it's a lot mental. It's a

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Speaker 1: lot of mental. Um. You know, conditioning we do year around.

641
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Speaker 1: You know where we're at in the off season, you're

642
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: always doing your conditioning stuff. But um, once we get

643
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: back here and we're watching the film. We're in front

644
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: of the coaches. You know, the coaches throught the whole

645
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: off season. They're breaking down film, they're seeing, you know,

646
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: what we need to get better on um and doing

647
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: all that. So when we get back they can kind

648
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: of give us the pieces and the techniques and stuff

649
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: like that. And you know, that's kind of where we're

650
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: at right now with the tablets. I mean, do you

651
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: bring stuff home and look at video to that? I

652
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: mean during the all season? Yeah no, no, no, no,

653
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: during all season I'm pretty sure not not really allowed

654
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: to do that. UM. So once we get back here,

655
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: that's when we get you know, the the iPads and

656
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: we're able to go in the film room and watch

657
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: film our own. So we've asked you about whether this

658
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: defense can be a top five again, and you think, yeah,

659
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: they were good last year, but you always want to

660
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: get better. But you think, we look at the big picture.

661
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: They haven't paid much attention to you guys. I mean,

662
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: they got you got a draft pick in Ed Oliver.

663
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: That okay, Ed's gonna you know, be in there with

664
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: Kyle's stuff. But then when they signed E. J. Gaines

665
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: and and Kevin Johnson the corners and stuff to be

666
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: opposite Tradavious and Jaquan Johnson. Who's gonna back You gotta

667
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: get a little depth back there. But they, I mean,

668
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: they just kind of ignored you guys over there. Is

669
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: that I thought you were saying, you know, everyone else

670
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: around the around the nation was ignoring us, but which

671
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: which is definitely true. But definitely as far as bringing

672
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: in new bodies, I mean, I feel like we we

673
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 1: took some steps last year to kind of put us

674
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: in position to to be the best defense in the league. Um,

675
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: do we feel like, you know, depth is always our

676
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: friend one hundred percent. Injuries happened in this league. But

677
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: at the same time, we know how we can get better.

678
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: We know, you know, if we improve our red zone,

679
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: if we improve you know, our tackling, if we improve

680
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: you know, certain things that we can make it to

681
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: that top spot. You know, we have to work every

682
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: single day. It's not gonna come easy. Last year, you know,

683
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: was I think that we had a more consistent defense

684
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: last year than we did the year before. Um, even

685
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: though you know we started off not not very hot,

686
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: but you know, it's gonna we have to work each

687
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: and every day and you know, hopefully week one when

688
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: it rolls around, we're we're filing off, firing on allus

689
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: in the had a couple of workouts this week with

690
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: Ed Oliver, first round pick. What do you see so far?

691
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: What do you quick? He comes out that line quick? Yeah,

692
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: he comes off that line quick. I mean I ain't

693
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: got to watch too much, watch him too much, but

694
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: uh yeah, he's a special guy who solid highlights who

695
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: He's making those offensive linemen look like, uh look like

696
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: high school high school kids we just changed to see.

697
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: To me, he almost read reasons kind of a new

698
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: way of playing defense up front in the league. You

699
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: can what do you think of that? Well, I just

700
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: think with him, Um, you know, he's able to get

701
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: up that quarterback, you know, and that's what I love

702
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: as defensive back, you know, putting the pressure on the quarterback,

703
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: making that ball come out quicker. We're able to break

704
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: on him and try to get more takeaway. So, um,

705
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: you know, I I appreciate. I appreciate what he's gonna

706
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: do for our defense. It's a couple of years ago

707
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: people would think you need the biggest guys just playing

708
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: him in the middle of they stopped the run. You know,

709
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: they they generate a lot of double teams from the

710
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: offense and stuff like that. But you know, side to side,

711
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: from sideline to sideline, you know, whether it's a sweep,

712
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: a toss, whatever it is, or even you know, quarterback

713
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 1: getting outside the pocket. I mean, they're not really they're

714
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: not helping, not really help him. So we spent a

715
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: lot of time talking about the defense two years two

716
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: years ago because you guys turned out those you know,

717
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: those turnovers and and uh kind of sparked the playoff run. Yeah,

718
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: two years ago you had EJ. Gaines on the on

719
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: the squad, and now he's back. How was that to

720
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: see him and back in the locker. That was good.

721
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: As soon as we signed him, my Semi Texas so

722
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: happy to have you man, It was said, you know,

723
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: we're sad to see him go. Um. You know, I

724
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: just feel like our defense back room in general, it's

725
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: just we're we appreciated each other. You know, we're all friends.

726
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: We all like to have fun. You know, we got

727
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: today Vish that's always talking, always doing whatever. You got

728
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: a playmaker and you know, a leader employer um and

729
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: whoever steps in at the other corner, whether if it's

730
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: you know Levi e j keV. You know, we're all

731
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: gonna be out there competing, um, you know, tearing the

732
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: little boat all we got a nickel, uh, you know

733
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: rafts ran. There's a lot of guys on you know,

734
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: in the in the back end. They're gonna, um really

735
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: put us in position to to go out there and

736
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: make plays. We gotta talk a little softball with you.

737
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: The Mica Hide Charity softball game is coming up, um

738
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: on one of the two weeks from Saturday at the

739
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: Salon Field downtown Sunday from Sunday, Oh, Sunday, June second.

740
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: That's right, tell us about that. We we had you

741
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: on the phone once a couple of weeks ago talking

742
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: about it. But thinks you're coming along now two weeks

743
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: coming along. You know, we're excited. Uh. You know the

744
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: we put up a sign up sheet in the in

745
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: the locker room for the offense versus defense. Um, a

746
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: lot of former baseball players on defense. I really think

747
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: it's gonna be we're gonna run away with this. Maybe

748
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: twenty five, twenty to five, yeah, right, that the right time,

749
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 1: one down, Um, it could be a guarantee. But you know,

750
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 1: obviously Josh has his his saying what's gonna happen? Um,

751
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: But you know we're not really slow pitch Josh camp

752
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: the offensive. It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. It's gonna

753
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: be a good But yeah, the Imagine for Youth, you know,

754
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: is putting it on my my foundation along with you know,

755
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: my family, my wife, we all, uh, they all do

756
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 1: a great job of of running it. And they wanted

757
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: to bring something to uh to Buffalo. Um. And so

758
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: I did this in the past in Green Bay and

759
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: it was such an amazing event, Like it was thousands

760
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: of fans came out and and um, it'd be good

761
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 1: to see what bills my Fiela can do. What kind

762
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: of work does Imagine for Youth Foundation? So we we

763
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: give away sportive equipment to two kids that need it. Um.

764
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: You know, growing up back in Ohio, whether it was

765
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: you know, fees you had to pay, or my mom,

766
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: my single single mother with uh, you know, three four kids,

767
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 1: having to buy some cleats or do whatever. You know,

768
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: Instead we are able to you know, provide that for kids.

769
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 1: And you got offense versus defense. You also have a

770
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: home run contest before the game that'll be fun moving

771
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 1: the fences, and I hope right, yeah, fences are coming

772
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: in a little bit. There's gonna be one of those

773
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: uh movable fences. Okay, those those are coming in. But uh,

774
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: you know we're gonna see who the real baseball players

775
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: are for sure. All right, Well that'll be fun. Pictures, pictures,

776
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 1: you got enough pictures, uh this, Hopefully someone go out

777
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: there just there'll there'll be a net, you know what

778
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So, uh, we don't want anybody to get

779
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: a line drive right back up in the middle the picture.

780
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: So tickets are available, right, folks, Where do you get

781
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: tickets from? So you can go to my instagram and

782
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: you can you know, if you're a millennial, you can

783
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 1: go to my instagram and click the link. Or you

784
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: can also go to the Bison's website and and uh

785
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: also get them there. And there's a VIP ticket of it.

786
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 1: Lettle as well. What you're gonna get some autographs from

787
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: the players, smaller graphs stuff from me, and a little

788
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 1: meet and greet. Very nice, say, I mean you're expecting

789
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: you like what twenty five thirty forty guys. Yeah, that's

790
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: the whole roster and the whole rosters invited. I think

791
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: the sign up was who decides the minutes? I guess

792
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: I went Basketball's decides how many guys? That's all them,

793
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: that's all them. Yeah, you know we're gonna decide who played,

794
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: who played sophomore, who played baseball, and and go from there. Hopefully,

795
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: you know, everybody can get that bad and and do

796
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: all that. But when it comes down to fielding, you know,

797
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: I'm we're not messing around. We're putting the guys in

798
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: position to make play. Where are you playing? And if

799
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: I'm sending field, I'm center. Yeah, it's free safety for me.

800
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: Here you go. Yeah, I'm getting to the ball. Yeah.

801
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 1: Any practices needed for either side? Do you think before

802
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: we went out? Well, yeah, we've went out a couple

803
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: weeks ago and did a little ball park. Yeah, I

804
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: did a little BP um. You know. I brought Levi

805
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: with me. He has a little bit, and then zay

806
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: And and Dion also came with me. Like I said,

807
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: I'm not too worried about the offense. They weren't. They

808
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: weren't exactly smashing the ball or anything. Tickets available as

809
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: the sense at your Instagram page right, and tickets available

810
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: for as low as ten dollars. That's a great afternoon.

811
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: Concessions will be available and the ball park. It's a

812
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: great ballpark, but it's a beautiful ball park. Grand the kids.

813
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: You know, we'll sign some autographs and let them run

814
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: around because some some home round balls. Are you a

815
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: Cavs fan Cleveland Cavaliers. M not really Okay, never mind,

816
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: I was gonna suggest I want to be here, buddy.

817
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: Mine just got hired over there, so we're excited about that. Yeah,

818
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: their new head coaches John Bline Michigan. Yeah, Murf's his

819
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 1: boy by Murf Boy on one of the two. Michael,

820
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: good luck with the softball game. That's cool, it's gonna

821
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: be fun. It's two weeks from Sunday. Yes, correct, Thanks

822
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: for coming in. Thanks great, It's always good Michael Hide,

823
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: Bill safety and softball center fielder joining us in studio.

824
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: Steve and I coming back with more One Bill's Live

825
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back

826
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: One Bills Live. John Murphy was Steve Casher again. Great.

827
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: By the way, Mica Hyde might be the easiest interview

828
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 1: subject on that roster and the last several years roster.

829
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, talk to Mike about anything.

830
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: He's pretty strong anything. He's really strong, really smart. Yeah,

831
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: how about how Look I know they work at this

832
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: and it's their profession, but he is deep into thinking

833
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: about what went wrong with the second right defense last

834
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: year and what's gonna go right with this issue's defense.

835
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: It's like it's like they play Sunday they yeah, he goes, yeah,

836
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 1: he goes. Our red zone defense was awful last year.

837
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 1: We got it all communication issues, we got you know,

838
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: these blah blah blah going on. And I was like, wow, impressive,

839
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: Like two weeks into the off season. Yeah, Like he's

840
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: like neck deep in it already. Like me, I'm like,

841
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, I wonder what they're doing today. You know,

842
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: they seem out there. He's on there going Yeah, we

843
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: watched film today and hit that out of that and

844
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: he said, this is mental. That's part you know ant

845
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: called the off season conditioning program. So you think this

846
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: is about conditioning, No, Micah says, it's mental gymnastics. Yeah,

847
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: getting ourselves together. Not worried about game planning for a

848
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: particular opponent, but getting themselves together. Michael's got an opponent

849
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: offense versus defense. The mic i'd charity softball game coming

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Speaker 1: up on Sunday, June second, Sailing Field, Downtown Buffalo, Gates

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Speaker 1: open at noon, home run hitting contests, home run derby

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00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: A twelve thirty, and then it's a hide in the

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Speaker 1: defense against Josh Allen in the offense for ultimate bragging rights.

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Speaker 1: More information on MICA's Instagram page. He said, or go

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00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: to the Bisons if you're intersted in tickets that that

856
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: sounds like a pretty fun afternoon. Really, yeah, thanks to

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Speaker 1: Mica for joining us. All right, tap bag of the day.

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Speaker 1: Micah's defense finished second in the NFL last year, right

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00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 1: second overall and yards allowed. Will the defense finish the

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Speaker 1: Bills defense finish in the top five again this year?

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Speaker 1: What do you think? On Twitter? Five hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: seven votes in and eighty six percent say yes, sure

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00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: they will. Eighty five percent say the Bills will be

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Speaker 1: top five defense, fourteen percent say no, what do you think?

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Speaker 1: Let's discuss and if you believe that, tell us why

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Speaker 1: or if you don't give us a call eight oh

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Speaker 1: three five fifty toll free one eight eight eight five

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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty Sending a tweet sipp in the

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Speaker 1: kool aid says they will be better. They are deeper

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00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: this year than they have ever been, and hopefully they

871
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 1: will not be on the field nearly as often due

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Speaker 1: to an e mc offense. It wouldn't surprise me if

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Speaker 1: they were number one. It's optimistic, but I like it. Yeah, yeah,

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00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: that's right. Jay Red says the same thing. Yes, the

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00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: Bills added add ed Oliver to an already elite defense.

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Speaker 1: McDermott has a great defensive system. This is an easy

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Speaker 1: This is an easy, top five defense. Do you think

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00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: it's funny you say they were number two overall in

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00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,959
Speaker 1: yards given up? Would you say this is an elite defense? No?

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't either based on last year. No, I know

881
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: what you know why? It's points allowed? Yeah, you know

882
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: they were. They were eighteenth in the league and points allowed.

883
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 1: If you're like number one in yards given up and

884
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: number one in points allowed, like for like given up

885
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 1: fifteen points a game, which is all it would take. Yeah,

886
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 1: that's an elite defense. This is a really good defense.

887
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: It's not an elite. Yeah, it's a very solid defense,

888
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: but it's not. He's Yeah, I don't think you can

889
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: call it elite. I don't yet. I think that's about

890
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: points allowed, but that's within turn over, that's within reach.

891
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: I think I think so eliteness. I think so because

892
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: we saw them do that the spectacular things two years ago.

893
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: They weren't as good a defense two years ago statistically

894
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: as they were this last year. But they got turned

895
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: out turnovers, they got sacked, they got timely plays, tipped passes,

896
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: and it seemed like, and I don't know whether I

897
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: could have to go back and look, it seemed like

898
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 1: they were just better in the red zone. They didn't

899
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: give up as many points, you know, and certainly their

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00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: offense was a little more helpful two years ago than

901
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 1: it was this past year. And I think that all

902
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: works together as well. But yeah, no, I wouldn't say

903
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 1: this defense, even though it was number two overall in

904
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Speaker 1: the NFL last year, I wouldn't say it was elite.

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Speaker 1: I would because of the fact that they eighteenth in

906
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: the league in points a line. You know what else.

907
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: It happened last year. Everybody knows it. But it was

908
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: difficult to get over the first two weeks. The first

909
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: two games, the way the defense imploded, right against the

910
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Speaker 1: Ravens and home against the Chargers. They were awful and

911
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: Mica alluded to this, and it was difficult to put

912
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: that behind you. Right as the season went along, You're like,

913
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: I know that's there somewhere. I know that's in their background.

914
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: Could that happen again? Every week I found myself thinking,

915
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: could that happen again? That kind of the poor performance

916
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: ahead against the Ravens and the home opener against the Charger. Yeah.

917
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: And you think if they'd put if they would have

918
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: put the two the sixteen last sixteen games of the season,

919
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: if they'd have had that kind of performance in the

920
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 1: first two weeks of the season, they would have been

921
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 1: number one by a large Martin they were. They were

922
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: second in the league and yards allowed by nineteen yards

923
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: behind Baltimore. That's how close they were to be in

924
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Speaker 1: number one with those two horrible games to start the season.

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Speaker 1: And let's face it too, We've alluded to it a

926
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Speaker 1: couple of times in an outright stated it once or

927
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: twice that the offense didn't help them at all last year. Uh.

928
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 1: You know, you can go back to the Jet game

929
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Speaker 1: that we alluded to with it, where Punchobia gave the

930
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Speaker 1: pregame speech the night before and they came out and

931
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: exploded on the Jets, and they you know, they hung

932
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,479
Speaker 1: a bunch of points on them, right and then the

933
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 1: right and then that in the week seventeen when the

934
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: Dolphins had kind of taken it out of gear and

935
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: Josh Allen started taking the easy completion and threw for

936
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: three touchdowns and ran for two touchdowns, and they just

937
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 1: lumped them up for forty two points. I mean, there's

938
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Speaker 1: those kind of days out there. But other than those

939
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: two that I can think of, you know, this is

940
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: a team that really struggled to score points. So they

941
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: weren't helping this defense out at all. And I think

942
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: two that teams weren't forced to score thirty five points

943
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 1: to beat this team. They were forced scored you know,

944
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: twenty yep, and that would do it. So they were

945
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: handing it off in the fourth quarter. They were you know,

946
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: taking the easy completions, you know, early in the game,

947
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: knowing they weren't going to get out, you know, outscored

948
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: at least by by an offense like this. So this year,

949
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: if Josh Allen and all the new pieces and parts

950
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,760
Speaker 1: and weapons and what have you on the offensive side

951
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,479
Speaker 1: can kind of go up and score twenty seven thirty

952
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: points a game, Yeah, things are going to change for

953
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Speaker 1: this defense and it really it could turn into an

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Speaker 1: elite defense. Will it be top five and twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 1: We will continue that discussion in our number two of

956
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Speaker 1: the program. Will take your phone calls with the lines

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Speaker 1: open at eight O three five fifty and toll free

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Speaker 1: one eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Coming up

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Speaker 1: A two, We're gonna talk with the newest Buffalo Bill

960
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: tight end, Lee Smith. He'll be joining us in studio

961
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,720
Speaker 1: two thirty. Ross Tucker, NFL analyst, former Bills offensive lineman

962
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: joins us at two thirty and a couple of retirements

963
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: to talk about former Bills former Bills well Andy Leavitri

964
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 1: retired two thousand and nine second round draft pick retired

965
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: from the Falcons today, and of course EJ. Manuel has

966
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: retired as well. We'll talk about Manuel in particular when

967
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: we come back for our number two. John Murphy was

968
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Speaker 1: team tasker One Bill's Live, presented by Kalada Health from

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Hello, Hills

970
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: Radio Network Sports Update. The update from One Bill's Drive.

971
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: Sad news. One of the Bills all time super fans,

972
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 1: Poncho Bia, passed away today in the hospital in Texas.

973
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 1: The announcement came from his family on his Twitter site,

974
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: the quote, we are thankful and forever full for all

975
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,240
Speaker 1: the love and support during this journey, as rac Castro

976
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 1: was surrounded by family and loved ones when he passed

977
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:10,280
Speaker 1: away today in Texas. The Bills voluntary offseason conditioning program

978
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 1: continues ota start next Monday, but another day on the

979
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:18,919
Speaker 1: field for Bills veterans and rookies today. They've got three

980
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 1: weeks of organized team activity that start next Monday, and

981
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: in the OTAs when they start next week seven on

982
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 1: seven drills, nine on seven, eleven on eleven, no live contract.

983
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: A couple of retirement notes regarding former Bills Andy levitre

984
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 1: former Bills second round draft pick in two thousand and

985
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: nine and now was his retirement today after four years

986
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: in Atlanta Falcon uniform. We played for the Bills and

987
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. After playing with the Bills first guard taken

988
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: into two thousand and nine NFL Draft, he was talking

989
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 1: to the Falcons about returning. Elected not to Andy Leviti

990
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 1: retires and late yesterday the Kansas City Chiefs backup quarterback

991
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: EJ ma Annual called it a career. Former first rounder

992
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: for the Bills in two thirteen, retired from the NFL

993
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: nine years old. Started ten games in his rookie seaton

994
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: for Buffalo, then bench in favor of Kyle Orton in

995
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: two fourteen. Odell Beckham, Junior, expected to participate in his

996
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: first on the field team practice today with the Cleveland

997
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: Browns as they begin their organized team activity. Joe Flacco

998
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: with a controversial statement that new Denver Broncolos quarterback says

999
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: he's not there to help rookie quarterback Drew Locke. Blackboard

1000
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 1: doesn't think that mentoring the young passer is the biggest

1001
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: part of his job description. Hockey Tonight, Game three of

1002
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference Finals for the Stanley Cup, Boston at Carolina.

1003
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: The Bruins one of the first two games they leaded

1004
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: two games to none. Face off eight o'clock tonight, and

1005
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: the NBA Draft lottery is tonight. New odds assigned to

1006
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: each team, the Knicks, Cleveland, and Phoenix, each with a

1007
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: fourteen percent chance of getting the number one overall pick.

1008
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: That's the update from One Bill's Drive. John Murphy and

1009
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 1: Steve Tansker, Good afternoon, Steve, How you doing today doing well,

1010
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: doing well. Micah Hyde was on the show. He is great.

1011
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: You've got him. He should have liked regular basing a

1012
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: regular basis. Love the guy. Smart, as smart as you'll

1013
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: find I think on this roster. Yeah, and it's he

1014
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: gave some insights too, is to how are these guys

1015
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: working to where they where their energies focused. Certainly they

1016
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 1: come in and like they're hanging around. I think it's

1017
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: kind of cool too. And I got to admit to

1018
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: this when things are going well, and I think that

1019
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: they've got the culture built where they're kind of where

1020
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: they want to be now with Sean McDermott, Brandon being

1021
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: and all the guys that they've retained over the years.

1022
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: He said it, he admitted it. You know, everything's done

1023
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: because we're just kind of hanging around here now. You know,

1024
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: we're kind of having fun, you know, get an extra

1025
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: workout in. Yeah. Yeah, just kind of just kind of

1026
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 1: being with a team, a lot of new faces, kind

1027
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: of hanging out getting to know each other. It's like

1028
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: it's a great time in the off season because one

1029
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: of the few times in this environment where the kind

1030
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: of the pressure's off your Yeah, I mean we talked

1031
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: about it with somebody last week. You know, many of

1032
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: these players with families, the guys who have families or wives,

1033
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 1: they don't come here for the spring, you know, they

1034
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: don't come here for these workouts. So the players are

1035
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: kind of by themselves, right, they're getting right. You never

1036
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: lived through that, right, you always said no family. It

1037
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: was different then, because, yeah, we lived here, we lived

1038
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: here year round. A lot of guys did back then.

1039
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Speaker 1: I think you may see some of that come back,

1040
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: where guys will be around here more, particularly with the

1041
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: new facilities. That's one of the reasons we did. My

1042
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: career expanded the era in the NFL where guys I

1043
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: was like one of the first guys who was drafted,

1044
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: and even when I got drafted, I started making enough money,

1045
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: even as a late round draft pick, to be a

1046
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: full time professional athlete. You know, I couldn't live in

1047
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: a million dollar home or anything like that. But yeah,

1048
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: you didn't have to get a second job. I played

1049
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: with guys who were later in the career who all

1050
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: had second jobs earlier in their careers. Yeah, I think

1051
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 1: you had to do it in a Yeah, you had

1052
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 1: to do something to make ends meet. So that my

1053
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: career I never had to do that, and I was

1054
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: kind of the in the forefront of that. Now you know,

1055
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Speaker 1: not only does guys not have to get a second job.

1056
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Speaker 1: Now they can live wherever they want and pay somebody

1057
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 1: to help them work out. They can be a member

1058
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Speaker 1: of a gym, or get a personal trainer, get a dietitian,

1059
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: get a cook, you know that kind thing, particularly established guys.

1060
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: So now you get guys who now do they parachute

1061
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 1: in for these offseason things, and they can some of

1062
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 1: them live in their own joint when they get back here,

1063
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: they keep keep a place year around. They don't have

1064
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,760
Speaker 1: to live in a hotel with the rest of the

1065
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 1: guys like I would have been. You know. So it's

1066
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: a different world now. But the facilities make all the difference.

1067
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: It's it's nice to hang around. It's nice to be

1068
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: around a place that's state of the art and the

1069
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: partic with your buddies. And you're the one who brought

1070
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: this up early. I think the new weight room opened

1071
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: up what month April, Yeah, about a month five weeks

1072
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: ago maybe, and you brought up it's not just the

1073
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: weight room, it's the recovery part of that whole complex

1074
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: over there, which Mike get told us they've always had,

1075
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: you know, a good recovery component to the weight and

1076
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: conditioning system here. But now they've got beautiful areas, you know,

1077
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: with all kinds of different technological innovations for a recovery.

1078
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: And here's the thing too, they're all staffed. Yeah, it's

1079
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 1: like it used to be you had to go to

1080
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: your own I had to find my own chiropractor, You

1081
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: had to find your own massus. You guys had to

1082
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: find their own. Yeah, they're occupied. So now it's fully staffed.

1083
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: They got it right here on site. And I'll tell

1084
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: you this I spoke to, we were talking to I

1085
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: can hide off the air about this too. And there's

1086
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: a real disparity in the National Football League at this

1087
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 1: current point in history where you've got certain teams where

1088
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: they're old school, where they've got guys on the coaching

1089
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 1: staff looking down their noses at guys for going to

1090
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: the training room, like for forgetting their back put back

1091
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 1: into place, or forgetting some ice, or forgetting their ankle

1092
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: looked at it. What are you doing? You know? What

1093
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 1: do you how's coming here? You know you're wasting They

1094
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 1: want to they think you're lingering, right, Now, at the

1095
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: other end of the spectrum, in in the modern era,

1096
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: you got teams like like the Bills, I think of

1097
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: Patriots do that. There's other teams around, you know, the

1098
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: tech some of these more progressive teams. They expect you

1099
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: to be in there because it's part of your job

1100
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: to maintain your body and that and this. It's foolish

1101
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 1: to think this is a a game that's not gonna

1102
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 1: take its toll on you. Even the stuff they're doing

1103
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: that here in gym shorts, you know, they go in

1104
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: after that. They got guys who are like, hey, I

1105
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: gotta you know, they gotta tweak of stuff. You gotta

1106
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: stay on the field. So these organizations are learning. They're

1107
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: miles away from where they were in decades past, where

1108
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: it was kind of like a tough man's game. You know,

1109
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: don't drink water because you're you want to. You know,

1110
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 1: you're a tough guy. You gotta prove you can play.

1111
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: You know, that's idiots, it's lunacy. You gotta be ready

1112
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: to play. And half the battle is recovering from the

1113
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: toll it takes on you. And that means getting into

1114
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 1: those places is a changer. It is, and it's a

1115
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: paradigm shift and some And the thing is, there's a

1116
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: lot of teams in the NFL don't do that. They're

1117
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: not there yet. You know, they don't have the facilities

1118
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,760
Speaker 1: like this, some of them do. But the recovery stuff,

1119
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: that cryo chamber, are you kidding me? The sleep pods,

1120
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: sleep pods, Yeah, we gotta get we gotta get some

1121
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: sort of dispensation to get in there. Right. There was

1122
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: a point, Yes, I thought you actually needed a visit

1123
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: to the sleep pod after your flight home from one point, yeah,

1124
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 1: one point I needed a map. Welcome to the show.

1125
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 1: John Murphy was deep tasker. We're here until three. We

1126
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: got Lee Smith coming up at two o'clock. Ross Tucker,

1127
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 1: former Bill's offensive lineman, now mister media. He's like he's

1128
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: the king of all media. Now Ross Tucker, he really is.

1129
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,959
Speaker 1: I said this observing him closely at the Super Bowl.

1130
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: I'll tell him this when he's on with this next hour.

1131
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: Hardest working man in football media. I really believe Ross Stucker,

1132
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: then Steve and then but Ross is unbelievable. And we'll

1133
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: talk to him about everything he's got going on. He's

1134
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: got a lot going on. Ross Tucker joins us at

1135
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 1: two thirty Today our Twitter poll the Bills defense. We

1136
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: always focus on the offense. We always focus on the quarterback.

1137
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 1: Today a defensive question. They finished second in total defense

1138
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: last year. Will the Bills finish in the top five

1139
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: defensively in twenty nineteen? What do you think? Based on

1140
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 1: the results from the Twitter poll with almost six hundred

1141
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: votes in you think they will finish top five? Eighty

1142
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 1: seven percent of respond and say yes, they will be

1143
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 1: in the top five defensively this year. Thirteen percent say no.

1144
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: But we want to hear more. Give us a call

1145
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,919
Speaker 1: eight oh three five fifty and toll free one eight

1146
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty or sending a tweet.

1147
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: I want to talk about this too, Steve. A couple

1148
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: of notable retirements, A couple of Buffalo former Buffalo Bills

1149
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: who have announced their retirements just in the last twenty

1150
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: four hours. One of them just came out today, Andy Leavitrie,

1151
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,399
Speaker 1: second round pick guard from Oregon State. I want to say,

1152
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 1: who was a really fine player here? A good player here?

1153
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: And Eric Wood came in the same year. They were

1154
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:27,399
Speaker 1: like they were inseparable for several years until Andy left

1155
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 1: to go buy a free agency to the Tennessee Tit

1156
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: tense time wound up with the Atlanta Falcons in the

1157
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Last time I talked to Andy was at

1158
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,399
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl in Houston a couple of years ago.

1159
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,919
Speaker 1: And as much as you know, he's on his third

1160
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 1: NFL team and yet he's he's a Buffalo guy. I

1161
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: mean he married an Orchard Park girl, Katie, and at

1162
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 1: the time, remember he had a baby or Katie had

1163
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 1: a baby. I want to say, like the day or

1164
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 1: the week of the the NFC Championship game, and there's

1165
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 1: all sorts of discussion about how that went down back then.

1166
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: A great guy, Andy le tree Um. And I've heard

1167
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: this many times since. First time I ever heard this

1168
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 1: phrase was Andy leavitri nice sunny springtime day, back when

1169
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: the sun used to come out in the spring, and

1170
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: he's at the Bill's OTAs and leaving the place walking

1171
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 1: by going out to getting a car sunny day. He

1172
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 1: had a sleeveless T shirt on and it was only

1173
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: sixty degrees. I said, Wow, Andy, sleeve the sun. He

1174
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 1: goes suns out, guns out. Now you've heard that a

1175
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: million times. The first time I ever heard it. California

1176
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: kid Northern California. Great guy Andy leavitri wishing well and

1177
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,760
Speaker 1: whatever he goes on too and essince typical offensive lineman fashion.

1178
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: He had a headline he said, uh reportedly Andy leavitri

1179
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: U retiring from the NFL, as reported by former guard

1180
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:48,240
Speaker 1: for the Atlanta Falcons, Andy Lavitrie. So he scooped himself

1181
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: in the media reporting that he was going to retire

1182
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: as a third person. It was pretty funny, but typically

1183
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: typical offensive line fashion. He outthought everything. Yeah. The other

1184
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: retirement came out last night. First round pick in twenty

1185
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 1: thirteen for the Bills, EJ Manual twenty nine years old,

1186
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: sixteenth overall pick. In twenty thirteen, he announced his retirement.

1187
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: You may have thoughts on EJ or his tenure here,

1188
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: give us a call if you do. Eight oh three

1189
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 1: five fifty toll free one eight eight eight five fifty

1190
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: two five fifty started ten games as a rookie for

1191
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 1: the Bills in twenty thirteen. Remember it was not the plan.

1192
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,800
Speaker 1: It was not the plan, but injuries in the training camp.

1193
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 1: EJ had to start his first game, had ups and

1194
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,720
Speaker 1: downs and turned out mostly downs in those ten starts.

1195
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 1: I don't know, it just didn't work with EJ. Here,

1196
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: look you can there's a lot to talk about with

1197
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 1: EJ Manuel, including where he was drafted and why he

1198
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: was drafted. Bills went into the twenty thirteen draft determined

1199
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,280
Speaker 1: to get a quarterback. In fact, unlike the current regime,

1200
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: Buddy Knicks went public and said we're getting a quarterback.

1201
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 1: Buddy was going to retire at the end of that year.

1202
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 1: That was public, that was known and said before I leave,

1203
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: we're getting a quarterback. So they went out and scouting

1204
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: them all. I went to that Senior Bowl in Mobile

1205
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: in January of twenty thirteen. We were all about the

1206
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: quarterbacks following the Tyler Wilson from Arkansas, Ryan Nassi from Syracuse,

1207
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: all of them, Matt Barkley from USC, Geno Smith from

1208
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 1: West Virginia, and EJ. Manuel. I mean, we had them

1209
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 1: all on the show. We're talking about all of them.

1210
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: We were analyzing all of them, and Doug Whaley, who

1211
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: was the assistant GM at the time, went out charged

1212
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: with finding a quarterback, identified ej as the number one

1213
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 1: quarterback prospect in twenty thirteen. You know what, way they

1214
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: was right, He's pretty close to being right. Way right. Now,

1215
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: make a case for Geno Smith being better, But I

1216
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 1: don't know if anybody wants Gino Smith more than EJ Manuel.

1217
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:40,399
Speaker 1: Yeah J Smith had his Gino Smith had his job

1218
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: broken by a teammate. That's the kind of guy he was.

1219
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 1: It was a bad quarterback class, and the Bills absolutely

1220
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: forced the issue under general manager Buddy Nicks trading up.

1221
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 1: Remember I write they trade up to get EJ. Manuel

1222
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 1: at sixteen, traded with the Rams. And you look at

1223
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 1: like the top four quarterbacks in that group, none of

1224
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: them really have traded back. They traded back. You're a

1225
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:05,919
Speaker 1: traded back. Manuel started eighteen games and no, I'm sorry,

1226
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 1: yeah it started eighteen played thirty in his NFL career,

1227
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: six wins, twelve losses in his NFL career. Geno Smith

1228
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: with thirty one starts, twelve wins, nineteen losses. Mike Glennon

1229
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 1: started twenty two games, six wins, sixteen losses. Matt Barkley

1230
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: here now started seven games, including last week or last

1231
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: year for the Bills. That was one of his wins.

1232
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: He's two and five. Bills are really happy to have

1233
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: Matt Barkley here. But that was just a bad quarterback class,

1234
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: and to pick one in the middle of the first round.

1235
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 1: To pick EJ. Manuel was a mistake. It was a

1236
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: big mistake, a big reach, like maybe the all time

1237
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: classic draft reach by the Bills that year. Manuel was

1238
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: I think the most accomplished quarterback in that group, a

1239
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 1: bad group of quarterbacks in twenty thirteen. Yeah, and you look,

1240
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: go down EJ Manuel, Gino Smith, Mike Glennon, Matt Barkley,

1241
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: Ryan Nassib, Tyler Wilson, Landry Jones, Brad Sorenson, Zach Dysert,

1242
00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: BJ Daniels, Sean Renfree. Three of those guys never took

1243
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 1: a snap in the National Football League. Others three others

1244
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 1: never started a single game. And of those three others,

1245
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: two they only had fifteen games that they even played in,

1246
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: and one or two of them and the three that

1247
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: didn't play obviously never threw a pass in the NFL.

1248
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: It's just it's amazing window when you go back and

1249
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: look at the twenty thirteen draft and quarterbacks, none of

1250
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 1: them turned out to be even well, I don't know

1251
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 1: if you can make you Matt Barkley is right now

1252
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: the one who's probably most solidified in the league. Yeah,

1253
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 1: Gino Smith's trying to catch on in Seattle. Is a backup.

1254
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: Tyler Wilson never played, remember him, Arkansas quarterback went in

1255
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 1: the fourth round of Oakland, never played in the league.

1256
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 1: The Bills brought him in for a visit. I mean

1257
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: they were looking at Tyler Wilson, brought him in for

1258
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: a visit. I every call seeing him in the hallway here.

1259
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: Great guy, met him at the Senior Bowl. Great guy.

1260
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: But the Bills actually considered Tyler Wilson out of that group,

1261
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: brought him in for a visit. Ryan Nassa was supposed

1262
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 1: to be drafted here, right, Remember that because of the

1263
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 1: Syracuse connection with Doug Marone never happened. Nassa only played

1264
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: five games with the Giants, only played two seasons in

1265
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: the league. Matt Barkley, you followed him around, and now

1266
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 1: he's here with the Bills. Mike Lennon a chance to

1267
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 1: be a starter. Twenty seven starts. Geno Smith now trying

1268
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 1: to catch on with Oakland. Right, isn't he in Oakland? Now?

1269
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: I believe he is. That's right, Um, just a horrible

1270
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 1: overall classes for as out for a visit with Seattle. Seattle,

1271
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 1: that was it, sat Um. Look, Doug Whaley found the

1272
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 1: best quarterback prospect of that group I would submit and

1273
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 1: he wasn't very good, and it was it was a

1274
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: rough spot to be in. I think to force that

1275
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 1: the first round quarterback pick, and you know what, you

1276
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 1: think about all the stuff the Bills franchise went through

1277
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: and they get to a point where they've got a

1278
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 1: spot where they're gonna take there isn't one. That's the thing.

1279
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: There wasn't one. I know, you take your pick. You

1280
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 1: could you could take this list of eleven quarterbacks and

1281
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 1: shuffle them and put them in each of a different

1282
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 1: a team that on that list that they went to

1283
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 1: from it was the buff It was the Bills, the Jets,

1284
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers, the Eagles, the Giants, the Raiders, the Steelers,

1285
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 1: the Broncos, the Niners, the Falcons, st is the Chargers.

1286
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 1: But no, yes, yes, San Diego, the Chargers. I mean

1287
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 1: none of those teams. I mean you could shuffle those

1288
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 1: quarterbacks up and put them on each of those different teams.

1289
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 1: None of those guys would have been successful in those

1290
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 1: other teams. Nope, you know it means it's it was

1291
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 1: a bad draft class. And how about this franchise being

1292
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 1: on on the you know, on the wrong end of that,

1293
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: having to take one, needing one, desperately looking for one

1294
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 1: for years, and finally gettingto the spot where you think

1295
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 1: you can get one, and it's just not there, just

1296
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 1: absolutely not there. And that's you know, you you talk

1297
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 1: about the things that conspire against you, that's one of them. Yep,

1298
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 1: you know. EJ was I think, I would say with

1299
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:03,959
Speaker 1: a little certainty. It was pretty good teammate, well liked

1300
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 1: by his teammates, I think, but it just wasn't gonna

1301
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 1: work out. I remember when he was benched. I'm just

1302
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 1: looking up the information now. It was Week five at

1303
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 1: Detroit and Doug Marone decided to bench him. Oh yeah, sure.

1304
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 1: It was after the loss at Houston, right in the

1305
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 1: long touchdown interception by JJ Watt. At Houston. The Bills

1306
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: lost that one, twenty three to seventeen. At Houston, EJ

1307
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 1: got the start, and the Bills at that point, after

1308
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 1: winning their first two, were two and two, and Maron

1309
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 1: decided to go with Kyle Orton at Detroit. And I

1310
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 1: remember in a pregame I don't want to give up

1311
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 1: too much here, but in the pregame discussion with Doug

1312
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,439
Speaker 1: Marone while we did the thing I said. I said

1313
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 1: something along lines of Doug, what do you think I'll

1314
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 1: happened to? Uh? EJ? Manuel. Now you've benched him first

1315
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 1: round pick a year ago. You've decided to Bencham and

1316
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 1: put in this journeyman Kyle Orton, and and Maron was like,

1317
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, And it was almost as if he

1318
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 1: was saying it doesn't I don't care. And I thought,

1319
01:01:56,880 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 1: that's not right. I mean, you your team with you

1320
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 1: at the helm was the coach invested in first round

1321
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 1: picking him? I just thought, look, she even had more chances.

1322
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 1: Maybe I wouldn't go to the wall arguing that, but

1323
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 1: I didn't like the way he was just tossed aside,

1324
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 1: cast aside after the loss of Houston, you know, yeah,

1325
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 1: in the really situations and what do you think do

1326
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 1: you think Maron was thinking to himself? Is up to EJ?

1327
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 1: I Meanj's got to bounce back. I mean, because I

1328
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 1: think that's what moach coaches do. You get him, You

1329
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: give this guy this chance. It doesn't go well for

1330
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:27,439
Speaker 1: him for a lot of reasons. I mean, it's never

1331
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 1: just one thing. Uh. And when he do get bench

1332
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 1: when you get taken out, what happens next? Is entirely

1333
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 1: and I think in most coaches mind I think a

1334
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 1: lot of fans minds, it's up to the player. The

1335
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 1: player's got to decide what happens to him because it's

1336
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 1: only him, only him, only he can control it. So

1337
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 1: I think that's that maybe a little bit. I don't

1338
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 1: want to presume anything, but that's I think a healthy

1339
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 1: mindset for a player to have. If I'm gonna get benched,

1340
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 1: what happens next, it's up to me. Yeah, I'm the

1341
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 1: one that's got to bounce about that. But yeah, you're right.

1342
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 1: I mean it was, let's face, it was some dark times.

1343
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 1: It was right, I mean, Moron quit at the end

1344
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 1: of the year, Bills won nine games, missed the playoffs,

1345
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 1: and maronn quit. I mean, it was ugly, it was

1346
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 1: bad times awful. Well, anyway, we'll talk about the EJ

1347
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 1: his legacy, if there is such a thing here in Buffalo.

1348
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 1: We'll talk about the Bills defense. Can they be a

1349
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 1: top five defense? Whatever? He's on your mind. Full Night's

1350
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 1: open eight O three five fifty toll free one eight

1351
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty Kevin and Hamburg

1352
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 1: on the line. Go ahead, Kevin you're on the air. Good. Um,

1353
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 1: I'm funny you bringing up that about Matt Barkley. If

1354
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 1: we would have had him last at that draft instead

1355
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 1: of EJ. Manual and he would have been anything like

1356
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 1: he did when we spanked the Jets that weekend, maybe

1357
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 1: win the head quarterback problems all those years, even though

1358
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 1: the hindsights twenty twenty, as the old thing goes. Yeah,

1359
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 1: and his win over the Jets was probably the third

1360
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 1: best win of the year last year, beside Allen and

1361
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 1: the Pike Gings in Hellen and the Dolphins. It's kind

1362
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 1: of weird. Think. I wonder if we would have had

1363
01:03:57,720 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 1: him and he would have played a crazy did against

1364
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 1: the Jets. Yeah, that's worth thinking about. I mean, he

1365
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 1: only had seven starts, and he had plenty of time

1366
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 1: with the Eagles. And in another NFL outpost to Matt Barkley,

1367
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 1: I appreciate what Matt Barkley means of this team now.

1368
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,959
Speaker 1: I like having him here. I wouldn't put a whole

1369
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 1: lot more into it than that. What do you think, Steve, Yeah,

1370
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 1: it's hard to say. I mean, you can't go back

1371
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 1: in time and replay history. But like I said, I

1372
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 1: don't know that if you take all eleven of guys

1373
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 1: on that list that we're taken in the twenty thirteen draft,

1374
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 1: shuffle them and put them all on different teams than

1375
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 1: any of them would have been successful, or maybe that

1376
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 1: maybe a handful of them would have been you can

1377
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 1: make that argument. I doubt it. There's three of the

1378
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 1: guys on that list that are not in the Latin

1379
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 1: National Football League anymore, and they only lasted one more year.

1380
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 1: They were there for one year, second year, and that's

1381
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 1: it and then they're gone. So Geno Smith still bouncing

1382
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 1: around the league. He's unemployed at the moment. Mike Glennon

1383
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 1: has had some shine taken off his name. He's been

1384
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 1: he's been in the league for a while. But Matt Barkley,

1385
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 1: I think he's really solidified himself here in Buffalo. His

1386
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 1: presence in the quarterback room where I think a welcome

1387
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 1: surprise and a welcomed edition last year that really put

1388
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 1: him in a great spot. That game he had against

1389
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 1: the Jets last year, I mean, how was there a

1390
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 1: more unexpected when in the NFL last year than that?

1391
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 1: Maybe the Bills in Week three against Vikings was more unexpected,

1392
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 1: but that was a surprising a surprising victory in New

1393
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 1: York last year against the Jets, and I think Barkley

1394
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 1: deservedly so kind of solidifated, solidified his spot because of that. Yeah,

1395
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,439
Speaker 1: Barkley's bounced around. Don't forget even this is a sixth

1396
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 1: different team in the NFL. Six you know, his practice

1397
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 1: squad guy, He's bounced around, been given chances. I know

1398
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 1: the Bill's love of what he provides to this team

1399
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 1: right now. But to say that he would have made

1400
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 1: a difference over the last what six years since he

1401
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 1: came straight first, Yeah, I think so too. That's a

1402
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:57,919
Speaker 1: bit of a stretch. Thanks for carling wild to Craig

1403
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 1: and Rochester. Craig, good afternoon, you're on the show. This

1404
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 1: go ahead, Hey, guys on the defense side, real quick.

1405
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 1: I think the defense will be top five and many

1406
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 1: more metrics. They might not be top two. I think

1407
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 1: it was in yards last year, but I certainly think,

1408
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:15,440
Speaker 1: you know, with the improvements they've made, and you know,

1409
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 1: another year of gelling with some of these young guys, overall,

1410
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 1: you will see the entire unit, not just you know,

1411
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 1: the yards allowed to go up, which is obviously a

1412
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 1: great thing. I always thought with EJ. You know, it

1413
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 1: felt like he never he was a project quarterback and

1414
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,919
Speaker 1: he needed that, he needed some coaching who really would

1415
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 1: have helped him. You know, after that Cleveland game when

1416
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 1: his knee got hit, it felt like moron and that

1417
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 1: staff was never willing to let him be mobile, and

1418
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 1: that was part of his game. I remember when they

1419
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 1: drafted him. Half of the thing they said was here's

1420
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 1: the guy that can move around a little bit. Because

1421
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 1: he did have a good support staff, Robert Wood, Stevie,

1422
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 1: you know, Freddie. He had some good players around him.

1423
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:53,959
Speaker 1: So you know, like you guys have said, it wasn't

1424
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 1: the bus draft, but if any of those guys would

1425
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 1: have made it, they would have needed some real coaching

1426
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 1: that could have helped him out, you know, And I

1427
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 1: don't think there really any of those guys even got that, truthfully.

1428
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 1: So right, it's hard to say because there's eleven guys

1429
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 1: in there, and every one of them had a different experience.

1430
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 1: Although we can all say they're you know, the kind

1431
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 1: of the same guy or the same experience, they're all

1432
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 1: different and then for different reasons. I mean, you look

1433
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 1: at a guy like Landry Jones, he went to Pittsburgh,

1434
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 1: I mean, he's playing behind Ben Roethlisberger, got drafted behind

1435
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger, guy who's won a couple of Super Bowls.

1436
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 1: He started five games, most of those when Roethlisberger took

1437
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 1: a week off because of one injury or bump or

1438
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 1: bruise or another. But he didn't get a play a lot,

1439
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 1: and he wasn't gonna get a play a lot and

1440
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 1: unless you know, there's just no reason to think he

1441
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 1: was gonna do it. So he played from thirteen all

1442
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 1: the way through twenty seventeen, and then the Steelers drafted

1443
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 1: another one. So yeah, none of these guys it gives

1444
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 1: you any anything about him that says, you know, hey,

1445
01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 1: if if things would have been different, he would have

1446
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:02,480
Speaker 1: been a real successful quarterback. Three of them are out

1447
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 1: of the league right away, so I don't know, it

1448
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 1: really is something. And unfortunately, when we see ej. Manuel retiring,

1449
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 1: we go back and look at that class as a whole,

1450
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 1: and you kind of make generalizations. And I don't know

1451
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 1: if that's fair for all of these guys because they

1452
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 1: were all in different situations. But nevertheless, not a single

1453
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 1: one of them has had any success to write home about.

1454
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 1: You know, there were points along EJ Manuel's Buffalo tenure

1455
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 1: that were notable, and I was thinking and actually doing

1456
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 1: a little quick research here. The London game right October

1457
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:37,560
Speaker 1: lead October twenty fifteen, EJ gets to start against Jacksonville.

1458
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor was injured suffered a knee injury a couple

1459
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 1: of weeks prior, could not play in London. EJ got

1460
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 1: off to a horrible start. Three bad turnovers in the

1461
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 1: first quarter. I think all three of them, horrible fumble interceptions.

1462
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 1: Two of them went back for scores. They were second quarter,

1463
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 1: I guess. And then the Bills down by twenty four.

1464
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 1: EJ brings them back. It took the lead in the

1465
01:08:57,560 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. It was It was a crazy game for

1466
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 1: a lot of reasons, including the fact that it was

1467
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 1: in Wembley Stadium in London. But three horrible first half

1468
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 1: turnovers by EJ. They're down by twenty four. He brings

1469
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 1: them back, they have a lead in the fourth quarter.

1470
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 1: The terrible pass interference call on the cal Robie Coleman

1471
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:15,599
Speaker 1: and Jacksonville scores the go ahead touchdown in the fourth quarter.

1472
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:18,720
Speaker 1: A memorable game. If if that call is right, if

1473
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 1: that pass interference call isn't there EJ probably wins that game,

1474
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 1: and that would might be his signature game of his tenure.

1475
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 1: Now I'm not saying he'd still be here or be

1476
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 1: a successful NFL quarterback, but it was kind of similar

1477
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 1: to Jim against the Bengals on Monday Night football. EJ

1478
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 1: turns it over three times in the first half, two

1479
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 1: of them go back for touchdowns, builds down by twenty four,

1480
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 1: and he leads them back all the way back to

1481
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:41,639
Speaker 1: take the lead in the fourth quarter. That could have been.

1482
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 1: It was a memorable game. It could have been a

1483
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:45,599
Speaker 1: signature game for you know. And that's and I think

1484
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 1: unfortunately for EJ, that's what is going to be remembered

1485
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 1: about his career. What could have been, would have been,

1486
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 1: should have been. And that's the way it is for

1487
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 1: all these guys who get drafted his quarterbacks, you always

1488
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 1: you can go back and because their quarterbacks. We've seen

1489
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 1: so many really good ones play and seen a lot

1490
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:03,840
Speaker 1: of bad ones play all over the National Football League

1491
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 1: and all over your time as a football fan. If

1492
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 1: you whatever that time is for each of us, you think,

1493
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 1: you know, if this would if you know, if A

1494
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 1: B and C would have happened for this guy, things

1495
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 1: might have been different for him. Unfortunately, you get to this.

1496
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 1: None of these guys had a B and C happened

1497
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 1: to them, right, You know that every single one of

1498
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 1: them had this, that, and the other of four or five,

1499
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 1: or maybe just one or two reasons why it didn't

1500
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:29,480
Speaker 1: work out for him. I was thinking too about EJ's

1501
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 1: rookie year. Week two, he starts against Carolina at home,

1502
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 1: and I was thinking about it, and you know you

1503
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:37,639
Speaker 1: probably do. You're doing play by play and you get

1504
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 1: sucked into hyperbole. So he leads the Bills back right now,

1505
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 1: I'm just reading to the details, a nine play ad

1506
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 1: R touchdown drive the Bills down by six in the

1507
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, were seconds in the game, and they beat

1508
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 1: Carolina twenty four twenty three. He was the NFL Rookie

1509
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 1: of the Week for his performance, and I remember saying

1510
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 1: on the play by play, EJ Manuel has arrived or

1511
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:57,720
Speaker 1: something like that. It's hyperbole, but yeah, it was right

1512
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 1: Week two, his second NFL start, an eight yart scoring

1513
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 1: drive in the fourth quarter. Things were not always awful

1514
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 1: with EJ. Manuel. Now that's at what point am I

1515
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 1: trying to make I get it why he's retired, why

1516
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 1: he didn't make it in the league. I understand all that,

1517
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 1: but there were flashes, There's what I'm trying to say,

1518
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 1: including that game against Carolina and a really interesting game

1519
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 1: in London a couple of years later. And I and

1520
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:20,719
Speaker 1: I liked DJ, spoke with him a bunch of times,

1521
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 1: and he was I know, my friend Bruce Smith took

1522
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 1: great interest in him and was his godfather. Yeah, so

1523
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:28,719
Speaker 1: there was a lot and and Bruce and I spoke

1524
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 1: a couple of times about EJ and what how it

1525
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 1: was going for him. And when he got bench, Bruce

1526
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 1: called me and said, hey, what do you think. You know,

1527
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 1: we had a candid conversation about it. EJ was a

1528
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 1: great guy, and he was That's the reason you pick

1529
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 1: an EJ manual over at Geno Smith is a kind

1530
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 1: of person. He was the kind of guy you're trying

1531
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:49,600
Speaker 1: to get for guys to rally around. Gino Smith was

1532
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 1: never and it still isn't, that kind of guy. But

1533
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:55,719
Speaker 1: for every one of those things, there's always the story

1534
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 1: about you know, EJ banging, throwing it into the hospitality tent,

1535
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 1: you know, a training camp. There's all there's humorous things,

1536
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:04,720
Speaker 1: and you know, throwing it in throwing it right at

1537
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 1: j J. Watt and watching him run the other way

1538
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 1: and then getting out run by a defensive lineman too,

1539
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 1: the end zone, all that stuff. You know, as many

1540
01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 1: ups and downs as there were, they were both ends

1541
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 1: of it were spectacular, right. Yeah. He had some ability.

1542
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 1: He had a nice strong arm, he had a release,

1543
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 1: He had a presence and a size and athleticism about him.

1544
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 1: But man, oh man, every once in a while he

1545
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 1: there was a bone head. He had chances too, And

1546
01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 1: don't my earlier comment about Maron's you know, not even

1547
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 1: Karen appeared. Whether EJ would ever come around that that

1548
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 1: bothered me that day back in Detroit. But he had chances,

1549
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 1: plenty of chances to start and play. Wasn't always handed jobs, right,

1550
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 1: things were happening because of injuries and stuff, so you know,

1551
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 1: he had to be forced into the lineup from time

1552
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:52,559
Speaker 1: to time. But he had chances, plenty of chances. I thought,

1553
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:54,800
Speaker 1: what do you think we talk about EJ? Manue? We

1554
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:57,720
Speaker 1: can talk about the bills on defense, anything you'd like.

1555
01:12:57,800 --> 01:12:59,720
Speaker 1: Jeff and James out on the line with us. Hello, Jeff,

1556
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 1: go you're on the air. Hey, I want to know

1557
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:05,479
Speaker 1: what you guys think about the rumors of the Bills

1558
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:09,760
Speaker 1: possibly trading for Jadeveon Clowney. I don't hang up and

1559
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 1: listen to him. I don't think it's going to happen.

1560
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 1: But I've heard the rumors, right about the rumors. But

1561
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:17,680
Speaker 1: because of his salary, I don't think that would be

1562
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 1: a viable thing for the Bills. Yeah, it all depends

1563
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:21,680
Speaker 1: on the cap numbers and what they'd have to give

1564
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 1: up to get him. Certainly, he's not going to come

1565
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 1: over here for a sixth round draft pick, you know.

1566
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you this, Jadeveon Clowney is a well.

1567
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:33,799
Speaker 1: You see if you walk into a room with Jadeveon Clowney,

1568
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 1: you see him in person there he is a pro athlete. Man.

1569
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 1: That guy is big, I mean big, big, strong, and

1570
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 1: he is fast and athletic. He is a true elite athlete.

1571
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 1: In a league that's full of guys who are athletes,

1572
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 1: he stands apart. He's one of those rare guys. And

1573
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 1: it started to show in the last year or two now.

1574
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 1: He had some remember he had some injuries getting off

1575
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 1: foot injuries in the first year or two of his career.

1576
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you what, when that guy is right.

1577
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 1: Physically he is unbelievable. So he's not gonna be a

1578
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 1: guy that just comes gets, you know, falls into your

1579
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 1: lap for a fifth or six round draft pick. You're

1580
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:16,639
Speaker 1: gonna have to pay for him. And I think if

1581
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:19,720
Speaker 1: listen and I have no reason, I've talked to him

1582
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 1: in a production means, seems like a nice guy, a

1583
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 1: great guy. You don't hear any problems with him. He's

1584
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 1: not a character issue. Seems like a good teammate JJ Watton.

1585
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 1: He get along really well. So there's none of that,

1586
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 1: which makes him even more valuable, you know. So if

1587
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:38,639
Speaker 1: the numbers are right, I would not hesitate to trade

1588
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:41,600
Speaker 1: for that guy, no question. But you know, what do

1589
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 1: you have to give to get for him? What's his

1590
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 1: contract gonna do to your cap situation? Is he gonna

1591
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 1: put you back towards where you were two years ago

1592
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 1: when you had to get your cap straightened out, when

1593
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 1: you had to get rid of some some one sided

1594
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:58,439
Speaker 1: contracts that you weren't getting enough production out of. Is

1595
01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:00,320
Speaker 1: he gonna put you back in that? I want to

1596
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:02,599
Speaker 1: go there, no matter how good the guy is. So

1597
01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 1: um that remains to be seen. But yeah, I've heard

1598
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 1: those rumors, you know, and what whether they're relevant or not,

1599
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:12,600
Speaker 1: that remains to be seen. But there's no question we

1600
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 1: know this about our this staff, right Murph. They're gonna

1601
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:19,839
Speaker 1: make the phone call. Oh yeah, they're gonna find out. Yeah.

1602
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 1: So if it doesn't happen, you know, it was just

1603
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 1: too rich. I say one more thing about EJ. Manuel Yeah,

1604
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 1: of course, um if I've thought about this a lot,

1605
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 1: but just today came up when I read about EJ retiring.

1606
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:34,800
Speaker 1: If Kevin Cobb doesn't slip on a training on a

1607
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 1: matt at training camp and injure his knee, he probably

1608
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 1: lines up and starts the first game of twenty thirteen,

1609
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 1: and EJ might have a different career arc, right if

1610
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:45,800
Speaker 1: he's not the starter thrown into the starting lineup right

1611
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 1: after bat. Right, Not that hard to imagine. Kevin Cobbs

1612
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 1: slips going from at Fisher, going from the Brownie Stadium

1613
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 1: to the green Grass practice field, slips and injures his

1614
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 1: knees out for a while camp play. This happened like

1615
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 1: early August. Now EJ starts Week one. If that doesn't happen,

1616
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 1: EJ probably rides the bench a little while, learns looks

1617
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 1: at a veteran Kevin Cabu had enough to at least

1618
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:10,680
Speaker 1: be acquired here, you know what I mean, it might

1619
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 1: have been a different trajectory. Rod. I'm just saying, and

1620
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 1: I know that's part of sports, that that if. But man,

1621
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:18,800
Speaker 1: oh man, if you're if you go across back over

1622
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 1: history and count all the ifs, that's a big if.

1623
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 1: It's infinite. Yeah, that's a big one. Though, first round pick,

1624
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:29,639
Speaker 1: first round quarterbacks, that's it's an okay. But if it's

1625
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 1: an okay, if it's not a big if, I wonder,

1626
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if his career would have been different,

1627
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 1: but I wonder if EJ's career might have been I

1628
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 1: don't know, is it a big it's a big if.

1629
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 1: I guess not just okay, it's a big if because

1630
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 1: if because I don't know, if EJ turns into something different, well,

1631
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 1: with a month and a half or six weeks to sit,

1632
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:48,639
Speaker 1: maybe maybe I'm just saying it might have been differ

1633
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 1: because he's had opportunities since the yes where he's had

1634
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 1: had time to digest the pro game and get you know,

1635
01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 1: and you know, to have that never come to the forefront,

1636
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 1: never emerge out of him under different you're right, I

1637
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 1: don't know different coaches from different leadership. I get it.

1638
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 1: That's that's it. Yeah, I guess not just that's a

1639
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 1: big if. It's a kind of thing that sometimes I

1640
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:13,680
Speaker 1: think about late at night, when it's when you're lay. Yeah,

1641
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 1: I mean I think, what what, how? Wol did that happen?

1642
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 1: If they had gone this way or that way? Yeah?

1643
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. All right, a break. We're coming back

1644
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 1: with more One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive in.

1645
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back, One Bill's Live

1646
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive, John Murphy with Steve Tansker. Thanks

1647
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:42,880
Speaker 1: for tuning in. We're here until three o'clock. Next hour

1648
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:45,160
Speaker 1: is going to be busy. We got Lee Smith coming in,

1649
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 1: Bill's New tight End, Former Bills New tight End, Former

1650
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 1: Bills tight End. We got Ross Tucker on the line

1651
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 1: with us next hour talking about the Bills defense. What

1652
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 1: do you think, Uh, can they be a top five

1653
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 1: defense this year? Give us a call. We got lines

1654
01:17:57,400 --> 01:18:00,240
Speaker 1: wide open eight o three five fifty and toll free

1655
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. I've

1656
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 1: been talking about DJ Manny for a couple of moments,

1657
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 1: and I was ready to move on. But one tweet

1658
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 1: I want to read about EJ. Christopher Davis tweets this him.

1659
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 1: EJ seemed like a great guy and had all the tools,

1660
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 1: but he never had the grit needed to consistently lead

1661
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:19,600
Speaker 1: an NFL team. He made excuse after excuse from the

1662
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:22,080
Speaker 1: podium after games and never had accountability and put the

1663
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 1: team on his back. I would agree with some of that, Christopher,

1664
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 1: but um, I agree with you about the grit part.

1665
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:30,559
Speaker 1: I thought EJ was lacking. I thought he was. I

1666
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 1: liked the guy, but I never thought he demonstrated the

1667
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:34,880
Speaker 1: kind of leadership you're looking for from that position. But

1668
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 1: I don't recall the excuse after excuse from the podium.

1669
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:40,559
Speaker 1: I don't recall that. I'm am I getting that. I

1670
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 1: don't remember that. I don't think that was part of

1671
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 1: his thing. I can't characterize EJ like that. I mean,

1672
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 1: you can say what you want about his ability to

1673
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 1: play or his quality of this play, but I didn't

1674
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 1: catch I thought he was a real high character, stand

1675
01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 1: up guy. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't get the excuse thing either.

1676
01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 1: I didn't. I don't remember that. Yeah, it's and let's

1677
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 1: and that's the reason he's not playing in the league

1678
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:04,599
Speaker 1: anymore is because he wasn't a guy that could put

1679
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 1: a team on his shoulders. He wasn't a guy that

1680
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:10,320
Speaker 1: did the out of the ordinary thing. You know, he

1681
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 1: didn't win games. He didn't that's it. I mean, he

1682
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:15,759
Speaker 1: didn't win enough games as a starter in the NFL

1683
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 1: to keep him in the league. And that's why you

1684
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:23,600
Speaker 1: know he's retiring today. So yeah, you can say what

1685
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:27,720
Speaker 1: you want about the way he played, whether it was

1686
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 1: because I don't think it was because he wasn't a

1687
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 1: good leader, or because he didn't have grit, or he

1688
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:36,880
Speaker 1: just didn't play quarterback well enough, whatever qualities you look at.

1689
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 1: There's been a lot of guys who you would never

1690
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:43,560
Speaker 1: say are a gritty guy. There were pretty good quarterbacks.

1691
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 1: But you know that comes down to completing a bunch

1692
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 1: of passes and not thrown to the other team. You know,

1693
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:50,240
Speaker 1: that's basically what it is. We'll take your thoughts on

1694
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:52,000
Speaker 1: that in the phone lines. It's now time, an hour

1695
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:54,680
Speaker 1: early than normal for NFL. True or false. It is

1696
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 1: brought to you by Yancy's, Fancy New York's artists and cheese.

1697
01:19:57,200 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 1: Are you ready for some cheese this early? See? I

1698
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 1: am let's dip into the cheese. True or false? This

1699
01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 1: is a really interesting question. Joe Flacco's job should be

1700
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:09,000
Speaker 1: to help mentor rookie quarterback Drew Lock. Did you see

1701
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 1: this Joe Flacco his quote, Listen, I have so many

1702
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:13,680
Speaker 1: things to worry about. I'm trying to go out there

1703
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 1: and play good football, trying to go out there and

1704
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:18,519
Speaker 1: play the best football of my life. This is after

1705
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 1: the first day of the Broccos OTAs he said, as

1706
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:22,800
Speaker 1: far as the time constrained and all that stuff. I'm

1707
01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 1: not worried about developing guys or any of that. That

1708
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:26,720
Speaker 1: is what it is. I hope he does well. I

1709
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:28,479
Speaker 1: don't look at it as I don't look at that

1710
01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 1: as my job. My job is to win football games

1711
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:33,400
Speaker 1: for this football team. Joe Flacco's job should be to

1712
01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 1: mentor Drew Locke help mentor Drew Lock. I say false.

1713
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:40,480
Speaker 1: I say false too. Go ahead, Yeah, there's no question. Yeah,

1714
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 1: tru Locke's job is to watch and learn from Joe Flacco.

1715
01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 1: It's not Joe Flacco's job to teach him. Joe Flacco's

1716
01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 1: job is to win games, and in fact, Drew Locke

1717
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:51,879
Speaker 1: is there to help make Joe Flacco better, not the reverse.

1718
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 1: It's all about the starting quarterback in the NFL now.

1719
01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:58,960
Speaker 1: And Joe Flacco kind of said the same thing last year.

1720
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:01,559
Speaker 1: He wasn't too happy when they took Lamar Jackson the

1721
01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:05,720
Speaker 1: first round in Baltimore. But when he got hurt, when

1722
01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:07,679
Speaker 1: he hurt his bat or his hip last year, couldn't

1723
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 1: play anymore, he was all on board with Lamar Jackson.

1724
01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:13,360
Speaker 1: He helped him all he could. That's what a backup

1725
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:15,760
Speaker 1: quarterback does, and that's what Joe Flacco is gonna do.

1726
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 1: He's gonna get himself ready to play, try and win

1727
01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:22,759
Speaker 1: games for the Broncos, and it's the other guy's job

1728
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:25,720
Speaker 1: to help him win. Just help Drew Locke's job to

1729
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:27,800
Speaker 1: help Joe Flacco win, not the other reverse. So I

1730
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 1: stay false. I do too, for everything you just said,

1731
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:32,880
Speaker 1: for all those reasons, it's not his job, and he

1732
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:36,280
Speaker 1: you know, and it wasn't as if Flacco trash Drew Locke.

1733
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:37,880
Speaker 1: He said, listen, I hope he does learn from me,

1734
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:39,680
Speaker 1: because that means we're out there and we're slinging it

1735
01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:42,640
Speaker 1: around having fun. But Joe Flacco's gotta take care of

1736
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco first. So yeah, that's false. Part two. NFL

1737
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 1: True or False Saints the New Orleans Saints. According to

1738
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:52,600
Speaker 1: bleacher Report, the Saints have the best quarterback group in

1739
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:55,600
Speaker 1: the NFL. Drew Brees backed up by Teddy Bridgewater, a

1740
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 1: couple of guys Taysom Hill and j. T. Barrett behind that,

1741
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:04,519
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill behind that, along with the JT. Barrett. Taysom Hill,

1742
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 1: we'll talk about him. He's kind of a utility guy

1743
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 1: who they use a lot kick returner receiver, so he's

1744
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:12,759
Speaker 1: part of that group. I don't know anything about JT. Barrett.

1745
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:15,479
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater, though he's ready to play. He's twenty six

1746
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:17,120
Speaker 1: years old. You would think he's right in the prime

1747
01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:19,679
Speaker 1: of his career now after recovering from the knee surgery.

1748
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:22,560
Speaker 1: He's backing up Drew Brees. I believe he had a

1749
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:25,080
Speaker 1: chance to leave there this year and did not take it.

1750
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:27,799
Speaker 1: Would prefer to back up Drew Brees. I'm gonna go true.

1751
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 1: I think that probably is the best quarterback group, best

1752
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:32,559
Speaker 1: quarterback room in the NFL. Your thoughts, I think you're right.

1753
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater gives him that edge, but also the way

1754
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:37,559
Speaker 1: they use Taysom Hill, the third string quarterback he's an athlete.

1755
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:42,559
Speaker 1: They used him on the field. He's a player, catches passes,

1756
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 1: runs for touchdowns, caught a pass in the NFC Championship

1757
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:47,559
Speaker 1: game this last fall. So yeah, i'd say that too,

1758
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 1: because they get the most mileage out of the Taysom

1759
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 1: Hill is the wild card, so Drew Brees never misses

1760
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 1: a game, although Teddy Bridgewater did start the last game

1761
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 1: of the season when Drew Brees was waiting for the

1762
01:22:57,200 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 1: season end to get into the playoffs, they had home

1763
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:03,960
Speaker 1: field advantage locked up. So yeah, I think for what

1764
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:06,639
Speaker 1: the Saints do offensively in the way they use Taysom Hill,

1765
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:09,240
Speaker 1: and the fact that Drew Brees is an iron man anyway,

1766
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:13,599
Speaker 1: he set the league record for completion percentage of a quarterback.

1767
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:15,639
Speaker 1: He broke his own record that he set two years ago.

1768
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:18,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, I would say it's hard to argue with that.

1769
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:20,920
Speaker 1: They're certainly in the conversation, so I'll say, true, there's

1770
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 1: something to think about. What's the chance that if he

1771
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:25,800
Speaker 1: makes a fifty three, if they can afford to keep

1772
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:28,680
Speaker 1: Tyree Jackson on the fifty three man roster, that they

1773
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 1: use him like that as an athlete, You know what

1774
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:33,880
Speaker 1: I mean? I wonder if that's something that's across their minds.

1775
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 1: I bet it has. I bet they've thought about it.

1776
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:38,760
Speaker 1: That'd be kind of cool. They might have thought about it. There,

1777
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 1: they'll scope it out to see if they think he's

1778
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:42,880
Speaker 1: a good enough athlete for that. I don't know. It'd

1779
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 1: be interesting to see him, might be might be fun

1780
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 1: to it, might be fun. Yeah, well, I'm all about

1781
01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:49,559
Speaker 1: the fundage. May there you go. And finally, NFL trur

1782
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:53,439
Speaker 1: or false. Peter King and his power ranking says the

1783
01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:56,640
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs the top NFL team going into the

1784
01:23:56,680 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen season. The Chiefs, Tyree Hill gone, um, others Right,

1785
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:05,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say false on this, Steve. I don't know

1786
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 1: that I would rank them number one in the NFL.

1787
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:11,200
Speaker 1: Your thoughts, I get it. They were they at the end,

1788
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:14,439
Speaker 1: the reigning MVP coming back, although his offense is going

1789
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 1: to be a little depleted because of the suspensions and departures.

1790
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 1: M I think you can make just as good a

1791
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 1: case for the Saints or the Rams. Yeah, those two

1792
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:27,600
Speaker 1: teams can be in the conversation too. Patriots anybody, and

1793
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:31,160
Speaker 1: maybe maybe the Patriots are hard to pick because they

1794
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 1: you know, well they got the two guys We've talked

1795
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:36,599
Speaker 1: about it at length yesterday, Tom Brady and don't take

1796
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:39,280
Speaker 1: those names. Yeah right, so uh he who must not

1797
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:42,960
Speaker 1: be named. So I don't have a problem with him

1798
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:44,639
Speaker 1: saying it. I don't know that I would have made

1799
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:46,599
Speaker 1: them first, just because of the fact that the Saints

1800
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:48,720
Speaker 1: are gonna come back this year with an enormous chip

1801
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:51,120
Speaker 1: on their shoulder. They're just as talented as they were

1802
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:53,640
Speaker 1: a year ago. So I would say the Saints are

1803
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:57,759
Speaker 1: gonna be and the Rams, too, are gonna be every

1804
01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 1: bit the team they were last year. So I'll say

1805
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:04,800
Speaker 1: it's okay, But I don't know by much. You know,

1806
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 1: So you're saying kind of true, I'll say true. Kind

1807
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 1: of truth. I'll say true. I mean they got to

1808
01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:11,840
Speaker 1: be in the conversation. You're on the record. True. There

1809
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:14,920
Speaker 1: you go. NFL true false brought you I said it false.

1810
01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:20,799
Speaker 1: Oh okay, NFL true false brought you jumping. I was rambling.

1811
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 1: Did you see how quickly he was a jumper? I

1812
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:24,320
Speaker 1: did jump because I was rambling, and you don't listen

1813
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:27,439
Speaker 1: to me. I did not. I wasn't listening to NFL

1814
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:29,720
Speaker 1: True false brought to you by Yancey's fancy New York

1815
01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:32,600
Speaker 1: startists and cheese. All right. The Bills dealing with the

1816
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 1: news that came out of Texas today Pancho Be, a

1817
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:38,599
Speaker 1: longtime super fan, passing away in Texas. Some reaction from

1818
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 1: some of the top levels of the Bills organization. When

1819
01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 1: we come back One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive

1820
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:57,519
Speaker 1: on Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back from One Bills Drive.

1821
01:25:57,560 --> 01:25:59,759
Speaker 1: It's One Bills Live. I'm John Murphy, was Steve Tasker

1822
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:02,680
Speaker 1: and the Bill's got sad news today about one of

1823
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:05,680
Speaker 1: their greatest fans. Poncho Be passed away this morning. His

1824
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:09,719
Speaker 1: family texted it out about eleven thirty or so, saying

1825
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 1: we are thankful and forever grateful for all the love

1826
01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 1: and support during this journey. Ezra Castrol what's surrounded by

1827
01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 1: family and loved ones, and they say, at this time

1828
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:21,799
Speaker 1: we ask for privacy. Is we mourn our loss Bills superfan,

1829
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:24,519
Speaker 1: Poncho B, you passed away today? And some reaction now

1830
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:28,000
Speaker 1: from the Buffalo Bills, including general manager Brandon Bean, who

1831
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 1: just talked with Poncho b a couple of weeks ago

1832
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:32,760
Speaker 1: around one of the draft. And here's what Brandon being

1833
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 1: said this afternoon here at one Bill's Drive. Yeah, it's finality,

1834
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:42,840
Speaker 1: and it's tough, and our whole, you know, our whole building,

1835
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:46,719
Speaker 1: our organization. I would see Bill's mafia and the fan

1836
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:50,600
Speaker 1: base just Bill's nation. Everybody is just you know, you

1837
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:53,880
Speaker 1: hear it out there already, and it's it's tough. There's

1838
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 1: not a lot of words. You just really praying for

1839
01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:58,880
Speaker 1: his family and his girlfriend, Veronica, and his kids. It's

1840
01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:03,559
Speaker 1: not often that a fan gets to connect with a

1841
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:07,160
Speaker 1: front office person or even a coach or an owner

1842
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:10,800
Speaker 1: on a personal level, but he did that with you guys.

1843
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:12,840
Speaker 1: I mean, he was at training camp last year. We

1844
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:14,439
Speaker 1: know what. You guys didn't need to the last two

1845
01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:16,080
Speaker 1: drafts to kind of make him a part of it.

1846
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:20,720
Speaker 1: How much does that kind of make this loss in

1847
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:22,960
Speaker 1: the fan community maybe hurt even a little bit more

1848
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:25,040
Speaker 1: because you got to know him in that way. Yeah,

1849
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:28,559
Speaker 1: I mean it's tough because our fans really connected and

1850
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 1: it was almost like he was an extension of us

1851
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:34,200
Speaker 1: to the fans, and we felt that from our end.

1852
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 1: It was sincere. He didn't ask for any favors, that's

1853
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:40,759
Speaker 1: just who he was. As we got to know him,

1854
01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:42,840
Speaker 1: you know, through his battle and just being such a

1855
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:47,800
Speaker 1: great fan and and he was genuine and he's an

1856
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 1: inspiration to a lot of us, not only professionally here

1857
01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:54,800
Speaker 1: in football, but personally and how you deal with adversity.

1858
01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:58,160
Speaker 1: Rando Bean, Bill's general manager, on the passing today of

1859
01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:03,439
Speaker 1: Ezra Castro, Panto big and Uh. Kim Pagoula, Bill's president,

1860
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:05,719
Speaker 1: had this to say today on the news that Poncho

1861
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 1: Billa has passed away. Here. It is when you you

1862
01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:12,920
Speaker 1: know it's coming. You know, we've known for a several

1863
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:15,200
Speaker 1: weeks now, um, but still when you hear the news

1864
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 1: and I was sitting in a meeting and it came

1865
01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:19,559
Speaker 1: popped up on my phone, you're still kind of little,

1866
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:23,960
Speaker 1: um not believable that it actually that it actually happened. Um.

1867
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:27,600
Speaker 1: So obviously very very sad and um he's such a

1868
01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:31,680
Speaker 1: big part of our Fills community. Um. I don't I

1869
01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:34,920
Speaker 1: can't ever recall anyone that was not a player that

1870
01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 1: had such a big impact on our fan base. Um. Um.

1871
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:42,519
Speaker 1: I just uh and I'm just so grateful that I

1872
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:44,519
Speaker 1: was able to meet him and spend time with him

1873
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:46,840
Speaker 1: or the courts of the last year. So yeah, I

1874
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 1: just much as you guys, try to h and Terry,

1875
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:53,800
Speaker 1: try to reach your fans and you know, get up

1876
01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:57,639
Speaker 1: close and personal. This was a personal relationship that reached

1877
01:28:57,640 --> 01:29:00,240
Speaker 1: another level. Yeah, and maybe some of the other So

1878
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 1: to know him on a personal level as well as

1879
01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:04,880
Speaker 1: you did, does that kind of make this even tough?

1880
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:07,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, of course. And as you've seen over

1881
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:11,240
Speaker 1: the past year, he really was a part of an organization. So, um,

1882
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:14,479
Speaker 1: he wasn't just a recognizable face in the stands like

1883
01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 1: you know he was at camp um, you know, we

1884
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:19,640
Speaker 1: had um you know, sat down and talk with him.

1885
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:22,479
Speaker 1: He was part of our draft process, as you know. Um,

1886
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:25,360
Speaker 1: So he really was more than just a fan. I mean,

1887
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:27,960
Speaker 1: he really was a part of our organization. Um. So

1888
01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:32,000
Speaker 1: right then there, that just that just elevates u the

1889
01:29:32,120 --> 01:29:35,200
Speaker 1: loss even more. What do you think, Kim Pagola and

1890
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:39,800
Speaker 1: Randomine on the passing of Ezra Castor panchyl Bia. It

1891
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:44,760
Speaker 1: is a rarity yet a fan would grow to such

1892
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:48,200
Speaker 1: prominence and I'm not um, I don't know, you know,

1893
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:52,880
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, um, but then to have so publicly

1894
01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:55,759
Speaker 1: marched through this journey that he's been on. He passed

1895
01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 1: away thirty nine years old, traged awful. He made connection

1896
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:02,160
Speaker 1: with this team. You heard Mike Hide talk about it

1897
01:30:02,240 --> 01:30:04,880
Speaker 1: his speeches before the entire team before the Jets win

1898
01:30:05,240 --> 01:30:08,120
Speaker 1: at MetLife Stadium last year. And of course he chose

1899
01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:10,840
Speaker 1: he read off Harrison Phillips last year's third round draft pack,

1900
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:13,439
Speaker 1: run off his name at the draft in Texas last year,

1901
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:15,760
Speaker 1: and those two head of connection. Harris is going to

1902
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:17,320
Speaker 1: be on the show with the tomorrow twelve thirty to

1903
01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:19,080
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about that. All right, we're taking

1904
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:21,400
Speaker 1: a break. We're coming back. Talk more Bills in the

1905
01:30:21,479 --> 01:30:23,800
Speaker 1: final hour of the show. Come on back. One Bill's Line,

1906
01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:26,599
Speaker 1: presented by Kalada Health from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo

1907
01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:42,120
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio, Hello Hills Radio Network. Sports Update. The update

1908
01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:44,519
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive, where the Bills are mourning the

1909
01:30:44,560 --> 01:30:46,160
Speaker 1: loss of one of their great fans of all time.

1910
01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:48,880
Speaker 1: Pancho Bia passed away this morning. His family made the

1911
01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:51,439
Speaker 1: announcement just before noon today, saying we are thankful and

1912
01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:54,280
Speaker 1: forever grateful for all of the love and support during

1913
01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:57,320
Speaker 1: this journey. We just played reaction from Kim Pagoula and

1914
01:30:57,360 --> 01:30:59,960
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean to the passion of Pancho Bia. The bill

1915
01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:04,240
Speaker 1: voluntary offseason conditioning continued today. They start OTAs next Monday.

1916
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:08,479
Speaker 1: Another round of OTAs ten days of workouts and OTAs

1917
01:31:08,479 --> 01:31:10,360
Speaker 1: when they can do seven on seven, nine on seven,

1918
01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:13,200
Speaker 1: eleven on eleven drills, no pads, no live contact That

1919
01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:15,960
Speaker 1: starts next Monday. Former Bills first round draft pick EJ.

1920
01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:19,160
Speaker 1: Manuel has called it a career after five professional seasons,

1921
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:21,760
Speaker 1: retired from the NFL. He was twenty nine years old,

1922
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:24,200
Speaker 1: started ten games in his rookie season for the Bills,

1923
01:31:24,200 --> 01:31:27,080
Speaker 1: and then was benched in two fourteen in favor of

1924
01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:30,479
Speaker 1: Kyle Orton. Manuel appeared in thirty games eighteen starts over

1925
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:33,280
Speaker 1: his five years in the league. And another former Bill retires.

1926
01:31:33,320 --> 01:31:36,679
Speaker 1: Former Falcons guard Andy Levitri, former Bill's second round draft

1927
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:40,400
Speaker 1: pick in two thousand and nine, announced his retirement today.

1928
01:31:40,439 --> 01:31:42,680
Speaker 1: He was talking to the Falcons about coming back but

1929
01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:46,400
Speaker 1: decided against it, and any Leavitri announces his retirement. Odell

1930
01:31:46,439 --> 01:31:50,320
Speaker 1: Beckham Junior participating in his first on field practices with

1931
01:31:50,439 --> 01:31:53,479
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns as they start organized team activity. They've

1932
01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:55,800
Speaker 1: got ten voluntary days over the next three weeks. They

1933
01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:58,320
Speaker 1: also have a three day mandatory mini camp in June.

1934
01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:02,599
Speaker 1: Cleveland acquired Beckham this season to team up with quarterback

1935
01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. Joe Flacco says it's not his job to

1936
01:32:05,439 --> 01:32:09,000
Speaker 1: groom Drew Lock, the Denver Broncos second round draft pick

1937
01:32:09,080 --> 01:32:12,360
Speaker 1: this year. Blacco says he'll take care of himself. He says,

1938
01:32:12,920 --> 01:32:15,400
Speaker 1: my job is to win football games for this football team.

1939
01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:18,719
Speaker 1: Stanley Cup Hockey Tonight, game three of the Eastern Conference Finals,

1940
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:21,520
Speaker 1: Boston Bruins take him to the road. They play at Carolina.

1941
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:24,280
Speaker 1: Boston leads the series two games to none. They'll face

1942
01:32:24,360 --> 01:32:27,080
Speaker 1: up at eight o'clock tonight in Carolina, and the NBA

1943
01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:31,280
Speaker 1: Draft lottery comes up tonight. New odds throughout the lottery

1944
01:32:31,360 --> 01:32:33,880
Speaker 1: for the number one overall pick, which would figure to

1945
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:37,000
Speaker 1: be Zion Williamson of Duke. The Knicks, the Calves, and Phoenix,

1946
01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:39,599
Speaker 1: all of them with fourteen percent chances getting the first

1947
01:32:39,680 --> 01:32:41,840
Speaker 1: round pick are getting the first pick in the draft.

1948
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:44,240
Speaker 1: That's the update from One Bill's Drive. John Murphy Steve

1949
01:32:44,240 --> 01:32:46,679
Speaker 1: Tasker joined in studio by an all Bunny of ours,

1950
01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 1: who is back for a second go round with the

1951
01:32:48,280 --> 01:32:50,679
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. Real happy to have Tynan and Lee Smith

1952
01:32:50,720 --> 01:32:52,479
Speaker 1: in studio with us. Lee, how are you doing? Good

1953
01:32:52,520 --> 01:32:54,000
Speaker 1: to see you? Good to see you, guys man, I'm

1954
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:56,240
Speaker 1: fired up to be back. It's exciting. What do you

1955
01:32:56,280 --> 01:32:57,680
Speaker 1: think of our little set up here a long way

1956
01:32:57,720 --> 01:32:59,360
Speaker 1: from the closet we used to do the radio show

1957
01:32:59,360 --> 01:33:01,679
Speaker 1: in years. Well, I've been saying it since I walked

1958
01:33:01,720 --> 01:33:03,679
Speaker 1: in the building, you know, last week on my visit.

1959
01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:07,240
Speaker 1: Mister and Miss Pagoula have spared no expense around here.

1960
01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:12,840
Speaker 1: It's it's invigorating. You know. It makes the players feel

1961
01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:15,880
Speaker 1: not only respected, but just appreciate it. So it's it's

1962
01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:18,559
Speaker 1: a great feel. It's a great atmosphere, and this place's

1963
01:33:18,600 --> 01:33:20,799
Speaker 1: first class. And you're coming back. You were here in fourteen.

1964
01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:24,679
Speaker 1: You have four kids, and I was. It's interesting because

1965
01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:27,160
Speaker 1: the family, it's a big deal. You got a lot

1966
01:33:27,160 --> 01:33:29,639
Speaker 1: of considerations, not just coming back here for a paycheck,

1967
01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:31,680
Speaker 1: and you could you could pick some different places. Your

1968
01:33:31,680 --> 01:33:34,519
Speaker 1: family's really stoked to get back in Buffalo. Absolutely. You know,

1969
01:33:34,600 --> 01:33:37,800
Speaker 1: my oldest son remembers being here. Um, obviously we've been

1970
01:33:37,800 --> 01:33:40,400
Speaker 1: out in sunny California for four years, so they're excited

1971
01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:43,280
Speaker 1: about seeing some snow again. And it's familiar. There's a

1972
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:46,120
Speaker 1: lot of faces around here that I remember and have

1973
01:33:46,160 --> 01:33:48,920
Speaker 1: great memories with. Obviously, I think Jerry's the only player

1974
01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:51,439
Speaker 1: remaining from when I was here. We were wondering about that. But, um,

1975
01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:53,920
Speaker 1: John Feliciano was a teammate in Oakland, and you know

1976
01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:55,960
Speaker 1: this brotherhood winter in the league long enough, you know

1977
01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:58,439
Speaker 1: a little bit of everybody. So there's some familiar faces

1978
01:33:58,479 --> 01:34:00,599
Speaker 1: in the locker room. You know, obviously on this building,

1979
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:02,800
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that, uh, that I had

1980
01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:04,559
Speaker 1: a lot of good memories with. So it's exciting and

1981
01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:07,120
Speaker 1: my family's fired up. We're wondering and on the topic

1982
01:34:07,160 --> 01:34:09,240
Speaker 1: of your family, So the oldest is now eleven. He

1983
01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:12,000
Speaker 1: was about six or seven when you left. Yes he was, Yes,

1984
01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:14,120
Speaker 1: he was a Yes, six or seven or something like that. Brody,

1985
01:34:14,240 --> 01:34:16,200
Speaker 1: what did Brody tell the young ones when they when

1986
01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:17,960
Speaker 1: they're talking about called back Buffa, What are you telling

1987
01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:21,559
Speaker 1: them about? It was cold? But but but right that

1988
01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:23,519
Speaker 1: you know it was he had a lot of friends.

1989
01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:26,120
Speaker 1: On the street that we lived on just reminds my

1990
01:34:26,200 --> 01:34:28,080
Speaker 1: kids more of home where we were. We're there growing up.

1991
01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:30,000
Speaker 1: You know, Tennessee's home to my family. That's me and

1992
01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:32,880
Speaker 1: my wife were high school sweethearts. So, um, this this

1993
01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:35,400
Speaker 1: area is a lot more like home. And that was

1994
01:34:35,439 --> 01:34:37,760
Speaker 1: his main main sentiment to the younger ones. Is that, Uh,

1995
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:40,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna feel a lot more like home, just with

1996
01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:41,439
Speaker 1: a little more of the white stuff falling out of

1997
01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:44,960
Speaker 1: the sky. Right. Absolutely. You were out in Oakland. Uh,

1998
01:34:45,240 --> 01:34:47,400
Speaker 1: we were just talking a minute ago. You were teammates

1999
01:34:47,479 --> 01:34:49,640
Speaker 1: last year with EJ. Manuel is a backup quarterback. He

2000
01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:51,720
Speaker 1: spent some time with him here and he's early in

2001
01:34:51,800 --> 01:34:54,560
Speaker 1: his career when he was drafted in thirteen. You know,

2002
01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:56,559
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts about a guy like ej kind

2003
01:34:56,600 --> 01:34:58,639
Speaker 1: of hanging up and calling quits. What are your thoughts

2004
01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:00,880
Speaker 1: after you've been around the block once you're twice You know,

2005
01:35:01,040 --> 01:35:03,479
Speaker 1: I've always said EJ Manuel is a great human being.

2006
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:05,840
Speaker 1: Most importantly, you know, I've let the guy babysit my kids.

2007
01:35:05,960 --> 01:35:08,160
Speaker 1: I was with him, you know, at both places he

2008
01:35:08,240 --> 01:35:10,200
Speaker 1: played in this league, and uh, and I had a

2009
01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:12,200
Speaker 1: lot of respect for him, the way he carried himself.

2010
01:35:12,720 --> 01:35:14,519
Speaker 1: You know, you can go down the rabbit hole of

2011
01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:17,120
Speaker 1: the situation he came into whether or not he got

2012
01:35:17,120 --> 01:35:20,120
Speaker 1: thrown to the fire too soon or at the opportune time.

2013
01:35:20,240 --> 01:35:22,760
Speaker 1: You know, all of us get opportunities sooner or later.

2014
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:25,840
Speaker 1: And I know one thing I know, EJ Manuel worked

2015
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:27,840
Speaker 1: like a true pro. Carried himself like a true pro.

2016
01:35:27,960 --> 01:35:30,240
Speaker 1: And he's a great man. And you know, to be

2017
01:35:30,280 --> 01:35:32,040
Speaker 1: a first round draft pick is something that you know,

2018
01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:34,559
Speaker 1: not many people get to get to accomplish in our business.

2019
01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:37,559
Speaker 1: So it's it's good for him and you know, best

2020
01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:39,200
Speaker 1: wishes to him and his family. You know, I still

2021
01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:41,439
Speaker 1: talked to EJ on a regular basis, so I'm excited

2022
01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:43,040
Speaker 1: to see him kind of move on to see what's next.

2023
01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:44,639
Speaker 1: You know, you mentioned draft pick too, and you came

2024
01:35:44,680 --> 01:35:46,800
Speaker 1: in fifth round right with the Patriots a couple of

2025
01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:49,200
Speaker 1: years before EJ. And here you are still playing in

2026
01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:51,720
Speaker 1: your ninth year. You get through at people say this,

2027
01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:54,200
Speaker 1: but you are almost a living example. It doesn't matter

2028
01:35:54,200 --> 01:35:56,639
Speaker 1: where you're drafted right when you start to put together

2029
01:35:56,640 --> 01:36:00,000
Speaker 1: your NFL career. Absolutely, Like I said, everybody gets their opportunity, right,

2030
01:36:01,200 --> 01:36:04,080
Speaker 1: and when you do get that opportunity, I think you know,

2031
01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:06,320
Speaker 1: it's used to screw it up. Obviously, if you're a

2032
01:36:06,360 --> 01:36:07,880
Speaker 1: first round draft pick, you're gonna get a few more

2033
01:36:07,880 --> 01:36:09,719
Speaker 1: opportunities in the rest of us. That's just the nature

2034
01:36:09,720 --> 01:36:12,160
Speaker 1: of the beast. That's no big secret. But you know,

2035
01:36:12,160 --> 01:36:14,519
Speaker 1: I tell the young guys all the time that regardless

2036
01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:16,400
Speaker 1: of where you came from or how you got here.

2037
01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:18,720
Speaker 1: Sooner or later, you're gonna get an opportunity, and when

2038
01:36:18,760 --> 01:36:22,280
Speaker 1: that time comes, just make sure that you're invested, make

2039
01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:24,800
Speaker 1: sure that you've studied, make sure that at all means

2040
01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:26,160
Speaker 1: you can look yourself in the mirror of the rest

2041
01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:27,479
Speaker 1: of your life and know that you didn't screw it

2042
01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:29,200
Speaker 1: up because of something you did wrong or not because

2043
01:36:29,200 --> 01:36:31,439
Speaker 1: you didn't work hard enough. One of the interesting storylines

2044
01:36:31,479 --> 01:36:34,080
Speaker 1: along around the NFL this last couple of years has

2045
01:36:34,120 --> 01:36:36,720
Speaker 1: been John Gruden's return. You played for him last year.

2046
01:36:37,160 --> 01:36:40,720
Speaker 1: Derek Carr was your quarterback for a lot of that time.

2047
01:36:40,760 --> 01:36:43,280
Speaker 1: Back in sixteen, he was an MVP candidate. He's written

2048
01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:45,080
Speaker 1: a kind of a roller coaster. Now he's been injured,

2049
01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:47,320
Speaker 1: he's been on, been great, he's been not so great

2050
01:36:47,320 --> 01:36:49,600
Speaker 1: at times. Now he's John Gruden has come in with

2051
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:51,920
Speaker 1: all the things that he brings. What your what's your

2052
01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:53,360
Speaker 1: take on what's going on out in Oakland? I know

2053
01:36:53,400 --> 01:36:55,200
Speaker 1: you're not there, and you never want to throw anybody

2054
01:36:55,240 --> 01:36:58,200
Speaker 1: under the bus. Talk about what's the story about Oakland

2055
01:36:58,280 --> 01:37:01,120
Speaker 1: right now? Yeah, you know Oakland has aputation right there,

2056
01:37:01,120 --> 01:37:04,200
Speaker 1: the black hole, you know, the the crazy fans, all

2057
01:37:04,240 --> 01:37:07,439
Speaker 1: the just craziness that goes on out there. Right, it's

2058
01:37:07,479 --> 01:37:09,960
Speaker 1: the Al Davis days. It's just a lot of h

2059
01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:12,000
Speaker 1: I have a lot of good memories from that place.

2060
01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:14,280
Speaker 1: And um, it's no big secret the coach goon's a

2061
01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:18,040
Speaker 1: wild man. I mean he's been that way forever. As

2062
01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:21,040
Speaker 1: far as um Derek Carr is concerned, I mean, shoot, man,

2063
01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:23,840
Speaker 1: the guys had four coordinators in a five year career.

2064
01:37:24,280 --> 01:37:27,120
Speaker 1: Not to make any excuses for him, but the stat

2065
01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:29,160
Speaker 1: sheet looks pretty good to to be coached by four

2066
01:37:29,200 --> 01:37:32,320
Speaker 1: different men. You know, he just continues to set records.

2067
01:37:32,360 --> 01:37:35,000
Speaker 1: He continues to lead and and handle himself the right way.

2068
01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:36,640
Speaker 1: And the dude can just spin it. I mean he

2069
01:37:36,680 --> 01:37:39,679
Speaker 1: can just throw it. He's brilliant. He you know, there's

2070
01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:42,360
Speaker 1: not any situation that's too big for him. Uh And

2071
01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:44,800
Speaker 1: I enjoyed playing he's in once again. He's a great

2072
01:37:44,840 --> 01:37:47,280
Speaker 1: human being. But um, as far as the way that

2073
01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:49,760
Speaker 1: whole ship is gonna sail out there, who knows, right,

2074
01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:51,799
Speaker 1: I mean it's still to be determined. You know, Antonio

2075
01:37:51,880 --> 01:37:54,320
Speaker 1: Brown coming in, you got Derek, you got John Gruden,

2076
01:37:54,720 --> 01:37:57,479
Speaker 1: got a lot of personalities, and you got the Raiders

2077
01:37:57,560 --> 01:37:59,160
Speaker 1: and they're moving to Vegas, and you know, there's a

2078
01:37:59,200 --> 01:38:01,479
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of stuff going on, and you know,

2079
01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:03,000
Speaker 1: I still care about a lot of people in that

2080
01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:05,559
Speaker 1: locker room most importantly, and you know, I hope they

2081
01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:08,920
Speaker 1: have success unless they play the Bills, obviously, but uh,

2082
01:38:09,240 --> 01:38:12,639
Speaker 1: but it's it's wild out there, That's that's for sure. Lee.

2083
01:38:12,720 --> 01:38:15,519
Speaker 1: How much is that moved to Vegas kind of hang

2084
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:17,840
Speaker 1: over the franchise and in the locker room among players?

2085
01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:19,720
Speaker 1: Is it something that's always in the back of here mind, like,

2086
01:38:19,880 --> 01:38:22,040
Speaker 1: don't get too comfortable here, We're going in a year

2087
01:38:22,120 --> 01:38:25,599
Speaker 1: or two. Well, obviously, you know, the players aren't fired

2088
01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:27,360
Speaker 1: up about the cost of living and the traffic they

2089
01:38:27,400 --> 01:38:29,160
Speaker 1: sit in every day and the folks as they have

2090
01:38:29,240 --> 01:38:31,479
Speaker 1: to pay and you know all that fun stuff. So um,

2091
01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:35,160
Speaker 1: you know, going to the zero zero's state income tax

2092
01:38:35,200 --> 01:38:38,120
Speaker 1: state and you know, moving to a city late Vegas,

2093
01:38:38,120 --> 01:38:40,040
Speaker 1: which obviously you can live on the outskirts if you

2094
01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:42,120
Speaker 1: want to stay away from the craziness, or you can

2095
01:38:42,160 --> 01:38:43,800
Speaker 1: be around the middle of the craziness. So there's a

2096
01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:47,599
Speaker 1: lot going on out there. But shoot, man, if you've

2097
01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:49,280
Speaker 1: been around this league long enough, you know that you

2098
01:38:49,360 --> 01:38:51,320
Speaker 1: just come to work where it says Raiders on the door,

2099
01:38:51,439 --> 01:38:53,439
Speaker 1: and there's no next year guarantee for any of us

2100
01:38:53,439 --> 01:38:55,519
Speaker 1: as players. One of the interesting things about you coming

2101
01:38:55,560 --> 01:38:57,439
Speaker 1: back to Buffalo after being in Oakland is that the

2102
01:38:57,479 --> 01:39:00,360
Speaker 1: Bills hired Bobby Johnson's their offensive line code and he

2103
01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:03,400
Speaker 1: coached tight ends in Oakland, so he was your your guy.

2104
01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:05,719
Speaker 1: Who talks about him? You know, listen, I'm all about,

2105
01:39:05,880 --> 01:39:07,679
Speaker 1: you know, enjoying coming to work every day. I feel

2106
01:39:07,680 --> 01:39:09,200
Speaker 1: like that's how you can thrive as a player and

2107
01:39:09,240 --> 01:39:11,679
Speaker 1: as a coach, you know, regardless. You know, obviously sometimes

2108
01:39:11,720 --> 01:39:13,080
Speaker 1: you have to take what's out there and take the

2109
01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:16,000
Speaker 1: opportunity that's there. But if you're fortunate enough to be

2110
01:39:16,040 --> 01:39:18,320
Speaker 1: able to kind of make a decision and have interest.

2111
01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:21,200
Speaker 1: My thing has always been, you know, being around good men,

2112
01:39:21,200 --> 01:39:22,680
Speaker 1: and I wanted to come to work for and that's

2113
01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:24,360
Speaker 1: the reason I became a Raider in the first place,

2114
01:39:24,360 --> 01:39:26,639
Speaker 1: was Bobby Johnson and Todd Downing who I was here

2115
01:39:26,680 --> 01:39:30,519
Speaker 1: with and um and playing for Bobby for three years,

2116
01:39:30,760 --> 01:39:32,840
Speaker 1: you know, was was a very very very bright point

2117
01:39:32,840 --> 01:39:34,599
Speaker 1: in my career. He helped me, you know, not only

2118
01:39:34,600 --> 01:39:37,080
Speaker 1: be a good man, but a great football player. I

2119
01:39:37,120 --> 01:39:39,040
Speaker 1: guess that's to be determined whether I'm a great football

2120
01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:42,400
Speaker 1: player or not. But I'm still around. But but he

2121
01:39:42,880 --> 01:39:45,200
Speaker 1: he's he helped me learn how to be a pro

2122
01:39:45,280 --> 01:39:46,879
Speaker 1: when I was a young player. He was the assistant

2123
01:39:46,840 --> 01:39:49,080
Speaker 1: oline coach here in Buffalo when I was a rookie.

2124
01:39:49,400 --> 01:39:52,439
Speaker 1: So me and Bobby have been through our our entire

2125
01:39:52,479 --> 01:39:55,280
Speaker 1: NFL careers together and now we're back together here. Uh

2126
01:39:55,960 --> 01:39:58,720
Speaker 1: hopefully I'll I'll play this contract out and give the

2127
01:39:58,720 --> 01:40:00,920
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills everything I and then I'll will be a

2128
01:40:00,960 --> 01:40:03,479
Speaker 1: farmer and Bobby can keep on doing his coaching thing

2129
01:40:03,479 --> 01:40:06,360
Speaker 1: without me. Hey, we're with Lee Smith, Bill's new Tan

2130
01:40:06,439 --> 01:40:08,519
Speaker 1: and Hews returned to the team. What did the Bills

2131
01:40:08,920 --> 01:40:11,000
Speaker 1: explain to you about the role they envisioned for you?

2132
01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:12,840
Speaker 1: What do they want you to do here? You know what,

2133
01:40:13,360 --> 01:40:15,120
Speaker 1: It's no big secret. My role is going to be.

2134
01:40:15,120 --> 01:40:17,040
Speaker 1: It's been the same thing my whole career. Right, So,

2135
01:40:17,280 --> 01:40:19,479
Speaker 1: did we sit and talk too much x's and oos? No,

2136
01:40:19,640 --> 01:40:22,519
Speaker 1: me and uh colle Dave Ball and Bobby and all

2137
01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:25,160
Speaker 1: the My main thing was Sean and Brandon and the

2138
01:40:25,200 --> 01:40:27,920
Speaker 1: Pagoulas and just how great this organization is right now

2139
01:40:27,920 --> 01:40:30,559
Speaker 1: in the culture and these this locker room and how

2140
01:40:30,600 --> 01:40:32,960
Speaker 1: everybody loves each other and it's fighting for each other

2141
01:40:33,360 --> 01:40:36,160
Speaker 1: and having a great young quarterback it was important to me.

2142
01:40:36,240 --> 01:40:39,160
Speaker 1: So um, I'm sure that I'll go in there and

2143
01:40:39,320 --> 01:40:42,000
Speaker 1: do the dirty work that uh Tyler and Croom don't

2144
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:43,920
Speaker 1: want to do, which is my my deal and and

2145
01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:46,200
Speaker 1: I love it. So um, I'm just here to help

2146
01:40:46,240 --> 01:40:48,960
Speaker 1: those guys. You know, Tyler's obviously the bellcal and and

2147
01:40:49,040 --> 01:40:53,080
Speaker 1: Croom's only getting better and we drafted. Uh help me here, Knox.

2148
01:40:53,439 --> 01:40:55,720
Speaker 1: So um, You've got a great room man. I'm a

2149
01:40:55,760 --> 01:40:58,639
Speaker 1: little bit of the older statesman and uh, I've always

2150
01:40:58,720 --> 01:41:00,880
Speaker 1: kind of been the inline guy. But whatever they need

2151
01:41:00,920 --> 01:41:02,559
Speaker 1: me to do, I'm all in. I just want to

2152
01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:05,120
Speaker 1: help these other tight ends and and do my do

2153
01:41:05,240 --> 01:41:08,080
Speaker 1: my job, whatever that is. So you've you left in fourteen,

2154
01:41:08,120 --> 01:41:11,800
Speaker 1: now you're back in two nineteen. You know, I got

2155
01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:14,280
Speaker 1: the facilities and some things, and there's only one player

2156
01:41:14,360 --> 01:41:16,439
Speaker 1: left from when you were here. What are some of

2157
01:41:16,479 --> 01:41:18,800
Speaker 1: the big stark differences you see when you walk in

2158
01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:21,240
Speaker 1: the door today. You know, it's just it's just the

2159
01:41:21,280 --> 01:41:23,240
Speaker 1: feel I think was the main thing when I when

2160
01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:25,200
Speaker 1: I came back on my visit and uh, you know,

2161
01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:27,000
Speaker 1: because this is where I want to finish my career, right.

2162
01:41:27,040 --> 01:41:29,639
Speaker 1: I wanted to sign one more contract and and give

2163
01:41:29,640 --> 01:41:31,439
Speaker 1: it all I got. And like I said, go be

2164
01:41:31,479 --> 01:41:33,559
Speaker 1: a farmer and raise raise my kids. My kids are

2165
01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:35,840
Speaker 1: getting older, so I still feel like I've got a

2166
01:41:35,880 --> 01:41:37,880
Speaker 1: lot of good ball left in me. So it was

2167
01:41:37,880 --> 01:41:39,640
Speaker 1: the feel when you walk in the building. It was

2168
01:41:39,720 --> 01:41:43,280
Speaker 1: just the atmosphere. Obviously, like I said, there's a human

2169
01:41:43,320 --> 01:41:45,479
Speaker 1: element to this thing. So when when players are treated

2170
01:41:45,479 --> 01:41:47,280
Speaker 1: like these players are treated here, and you know, they're

2171
01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:50,000
Speaker 1: fed great food, and they have the crowd therapy chambers

2172
01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:52,400
Speaker 1: and the massage rooms, and you know they're treated well.

2173
01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:54,920
Speaker 1: And you're not putting you know, eighty seven fuel in

2174
01:41:54,960 --> 01:41:57,719
Speaker 1: a ferrari. You're treating these You're treating these million dollars

2175
01:41:57,760 --> 01:42:00,720
Speaker 1: investments like million dollars investments. You know. It's just it's

2176
01:42:00,720 --> 01:42:02,559
Speaker 1: there's a good vibe and uh, you know the way

2177
01:42:02,600 --> 01:42:05,320
Speaker 1: the Pagoulas are doing it, the honest, good human beings

2178
01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:08,400
Speaker 1: that Sean McDermott and Brandon Bean are. Um, it was

2179
01:42:08,400 --> 01:42:10,120
Speaker 1: just kind of a place that I felt like I'd

2180
01:42:10,160 --> 01:42:11,920
Speaker 1: coming here every day and then have a good time

2181
01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:14,880
Speaker 1: working and uh and and enjoy, enjoy playing ball with

2182
01:42:14,920 --> 01:42:17,280
Speaker 1: a bunch of good men who have a really, really

2183
01:42:17,280 --> 01:42:19,360
Speaker 1: really good chance to win and are on the rise.

2184
01:42:19,479 --> 01:42:22,360
Speaker 1: And there just wasn't many negatives. But most importantly, it

2185
01:42:22,439 --> 01:42:24,200
Speaker 1: was the feel of this building that brought me back.

2186
01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:26,760
Speaker 1: Do you think they expect leadership from you? And I'm

2187
01:42:26,880 --> 01:42:29,000
Speaker 1: kind of a younger group of ten ends in that room.

2188
01:42:29,280 --> 01:42:32,160
Speaker 1: You know, Tyler, Tyler's coming into year five, so, um,

2189
01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:33,479
Speaker 1: you know he's been you know, he's played a lot

2190
01:42:33,520 --> 01:42:35,920
Speaker 1: of football in this league. He's been around. But I

2191
01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:38,439
Speaker 1: think I think so, yes. I mean, obviously I'm an

2192
01:42:38,720 --> 01:42:42,120
Speaker 1: older guy, Um, you know that's hung around and been

2193
01:42:42,160 --> 01:42:44,000
Speaker 1: around and been through a lot of different coaches and

2194
01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:46,799
Speaker 1: in a couple of different organizations. And you know, I've

2195
01:42:46,840 --> 01:42:49,800
Speaker 1: I've been with the MVP quarterback who was just tearing

2196
01:42:49,840 --> 01:42:51,880
Speaker 1: the league up. I've been on a you know, four

2197
01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:54,599
Speaker 1: win season. You've kind of been a little part of everything.

2198
01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:56,640
Speaker 1: So I think I've kind of seen it all. And

2199
01:42:56,720 --> 01:42:59,280
Speaker 1: I like to think that, you know, I'm I'm a

2200
01:42:59,280 --> 01:43:02,480
Speaker 1: decent guy. So hopefully I can come in here and

2201
01:43:02,680 --> 01:43:05,120
Speaker 1: just help these guys and show them what it looks

2202
01:43:05,120 --> 01:43:07,519
Speaker 1: like to be a pro every day. And if if

2203
01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:10,360
Speaker 1: they can, you know, grab one little thing for my sorry,

2204
01:43:10,360 --> 01:43:12,200
Speaker 1: but in my time with him, then that'll help me

2205
01:43:12,240 --> 01:43:14,600
Speaker 1: sleep at not. And I want to give back to

2206
01:43:14,680 --> 01:43:16,640
Speaker 1: these tight ends. I'm sure as heck not here to

2207
01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:20,400
Speaker 1: steal neither glory or take anybody's job. I'm here to

2208
01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:22,840
Speaker 1: do my job, whatever that is, and whatever other tight

2209
01:43:22,920 --> 01:43:24,479
Speaker 1: ends are in the room with me, I'll pour into

2210
01:43:24,560 --> 01:43:26,800
Speaker 1: them everything I have for sure. Yeah, you played with

2211
01:43:26,840 --> 01:43:29,120
Speaker 1: Derek carry you mentioned as it in Oakland as he

2212
01:43:29,200 --> 01:43:31,200
Speaker 1: was on the cusp of being the MVP of the

2213
01:43:31,320 --> 01:43:34,679
Speaker 1: of the league. What is the outside perception about Josh

2214
01:43:34,720 --> 01:43:37,080
Speaker 1: adding the guy you're walking into, this young guy, and

2215
01:43:37,439 --> 01:43:39,280
Speaker 1: what have you what you hear before you got here,

2216
01:43:39,320 --> 01:43:40,800
Speaker 1: and what have you seen in your short time here

2217
01:43:40,880 --> 01:43:43,240
Speaker 1: so far? Well, I told him today. I just looked

2218
01:43:43,240 --> 01:43:44,880
Speaker 1: at him and said, man, I like you. You got

2219
01:43:44,920 --> 01:43:46,400
Speaker 1: a little dog in you. You know what I mean.

2220
01:43:46,479 --> 01:43:48,080
Speaker 1: He's got a little dog in him. He's the kind

2221
01:43:48,080 --> 01:43:50,160
Speaker 1: of guy that, uh, you know, if a bar fight

2222
01:43:50,240 --> 01:43:53,320
Speaker 1: breaks out, you're glad he's on your side. Um. And

2223
01:43:53,320 --> 01:43:57,160
Speaker 1: and he's he's so athletic and he's so competitive, but

2224
01:43:57,200 --> 01:43:59,360
Speaker 1: at the same time he's poised, you know what I mean?

2225
01:43:59,479 --> 01:44:02,240
Speaker 1: He's he's special and that's what I heard. I'm just

2226
01:44:02,240 --> 01:44:04,040
Speaker 1: telling you right now, I wouldn't have I don't want

2227
01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:06,080
Speaker 1: to play ball at a place with a quarterback who

2228
01:44:06,280 --> 01:44:08,759
Speaker 1: who um is is he not one of the guys

2229
01:44:09,320 --> 01:44:12,240
Speaker 1: is Yeah, that's just that's a long season. So yeah.

2230
01:44:12,479 --> 01:44:15,720
Speaker 1: So um so this this this guy is uh is

2231
01:44:15,720 --> 01:44:18,120
Speaker 1: stud and that that was that was the consensus. You know,

2232
01:44:18,120 --> 01:44:20,360
Speaker 1: obviously he was a rookie last year. We've all been rookies,

2233
01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:24,719
Speaker 1: especially at that position. Um, I can't imagine that, uh,

2234
01:44:24,800 --> 01:44:26,880
Speaker 1: that change over from the college level to to an

2235
01:44:26,960 --> 01:44:31,040
Speaker 1: NFL quarterback. But just just the athleticism he has. You know,

2236
01:44:31,280 --> 01:44:33,400
Speaker 1: you hear that he's got this cannon of an arm,

2237
01:44:33,479 --> 01:44:35,600
Speaker 1: but then you know you watch him throw and it's like, no,

2238
01:44:35,720 --> 01:44:37,600
Speaker 1: it ain't. It ain't just Brett Farve out there. This

2239
01:44:37,760 --> 01:44:40,559
Speaker 1: this guy's got touch, he's got pois' he's he's running

2240
01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:44,640
Speaker 1: the offense. Um, he's I'm very impressed. Regardless of all

2241
01:44:44,640 --> 01:44:46,360
Speaker 1: the good things I was I was told about him,

2242
01:44:46,400 --> 01:44:49,800
Speaker 1: after two days watching him work, I'm extremely thrilled to

2243
01:44:49,800 --> 01:44:52,640
Speaker 1: to kind of be around him and uh, you know,

2244
01:44:52,680 --> 01:44:54,880
Speaker 1: anything he needs for me, obviously, I'm right here. You've

2245
01:44:54,880 --> 01:44:56,320
Speaker 1: been back with the bills for a couple of days.

2246
01:44:56,320 --> 01:44:59,440
Speaker 1: Now I wonder away from this place, away from this complex,

2247
01:44:59,479 --> 01:45:01,240
Speaker 1: off the field, what have you done. You're going back

2248
01:45:01,240 --> 01:45:03,519
Speaker 1: and looked at talk to old neighbors or friends or

2249
01:45:03,680 --> 01:45:05,519
Speaker 1: any restaurants you had to get back to when you

2250
01:45:05,560 --> 01:45:07,600
Speaker 1: were back here in town. Well, they the Mulberry is

2251
01:45:07,640 --> 01:45:10,679
Speaker 1: my spot. You know, Joe down there's my buddy. Yeah,

2252
01:45:10,960 --> 01:45:13,120
Speaker 1: he's my he's my number one guy. So that your

2253
01:45:13,120 --> 01:45:15,920
Speaker 1: pictures on the one and I think maybe yep. So

2254
01:45:16,200 --> 01:45:17,960
Speaker 1: so with me and Joe have a relationship. We've been

2255
01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:21,000
Speaker 1: friends since I was here. And continue that. Oh yeah,

2256
01:45:21,040 --> 01:45:24,280
Speaker 1: that's where they took me on my visit. They heard,

2257
01:45:24,600 --> 01:45:26,640
Speaker 1: they heard through the grape vine where I wanted to,

2258
01:45:26,720 --> 01:45:29,599
Speaker 1: where I wanted to go. So when saw him, and

2259
01:45:29,960 --> 01:45:32,280
Speaker 1: you know, I actually lived in Ryan Fitzpatrick's house when

2260
01:45:32,320 --> 01:45:34,559
Speaker 1: I was here. Once fitz moved on, he let me

2261
01:45:34,600 --> 01:45:37,640
Speaker 1: live in his house until I left. So it was

2262
01:45:37,720 --> 01:45:41,000
Speaker 1: under contract. I tried to, you know, smooth the person

2263
01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:42,519
Speaker 1: out of the contract. They weren't going for it, and

2264
01:45:42,560 --> 01:45:44,640
Speaker 1: they like the house. So I got to find a

2265
01:45:44,680 --> 01:45:47,200
Speaker 1: place for for my crew to live. But but no,

2266
01:45:47,400 --> 01:45:49,920
Speaker 1: just kind of moving around, going back through old pictures

2267
01:45:49,960 --> 01:45:51,960
Speaker 1: and and enjoying all the memories that maybe we kind

2268
01:45:51,960 --> 01:45:54,040
Speaker 1: of forgot about, you know, the little knooks and crannies

2269
01:45:54,080 --> 01:45:55,760
Speaker 1: of this city that that we spent a lot of

2270
01:45:55,760 --> 01:45:57,120
Speaker 1: time out and made a lot of memories as a

2271
01:45:57,160 --> 01:45:59,519
Speaker 1: young family when my kiddos were still in strollers. Yeah,

2272
01:45:59,560 --> 01:46:01,200
Speaker 1: what are you gona? We're you gonna take your young

2273
01:46:01,240 --> 01:46:03,519
Speaker 1: kids first? They're the ones who don't remember what it's

2274
01:46:03,520 --> 01:46:05,160
Speaker 1: like here. What are they gonna do first? You know what,

2275
01:46:05,200 --> 01:46:07,200
Speaker 1: that's that's mama's deal, because they haven't been here, right,

2276
01:46:07,400 --> 01:46:09,200
Speaker 1: they're not even hear yet. Right, No, they're not here yet.

2277
01:46:09,200 --> 01:46:11,400
Speaker 1: They they're back in Tennessee. We were always in Tennessee

2278
01:46:11,400 --> 01:46:13,760
Speaker 1: in the off season at our home. But you know that,

2279
01:46:13,880 --> 01:46:15,880
Speaker 1: that's that's mama's deal. She's the boss in our fast

2280
01:46:15,920 --> 01:46:17,439
Speaker 1: what's she gonna take them to? Where's she gonna take

2281
01:46:17,479 --> 01:46:20,080
Speaker 1: them first? I think probably Taffy's Milkshakes. I was gonna

2282
01:46:20,080 --> 01:46:22,439
Speaker 1: be the first thing, you know. So it'll be in

2283
01:46:22,479 --> 01:46:25,719
Speaker 1: the summer, right, so they won't be here until untill

2284
01:46:26,040 --> 01:46:28,720
Speaker 1: training camp and all that. But um, but I don't know.

2285
01:46:29,080 --> 01:46:31,320
Speaker 1: My family doesn't come out until camp. So I'll be

2286
01:46:31,360 --> 01:46:33,640
Speaker 1: in a dorm room. And I'm sure my wife, like

2287
01:46:33,680 --> 01:46:36,639
Speaker 1: I said, we'll have a laundry list of spots that

2288
01:46:36,640 --> 01:46:39,400
Speaker 1: that she misses and remembers and just go try to

2289
01:46:39,479 --> 01:46:41,599
Speaker 1: jog my oldest son's memory and get all the kids

2290
01:46:41,600 --> 01:46:43,400
Speaker 1: back at Clama. I got one more for you. Um,

2291
01:46:43,760 --> 01:46:45,200
Speaker 1: you've mentioned a couple of times you want to get

2292
01:46:45,200 --> 01:46:47,680
Speaker 1: into farming when you retire in Tennessee. And what kind

2293
01:46:47,680 --> 01:46:50,000
Speaker 1: of farmer. I'm a hobby farmer. I'm sure not making

2294
01:46:50,040 --> 01:46:52,000
Speaker 1: any money doing it, right. I got a little place

2295
01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:53,840
Speaker 1: out in the country to where you know, my kids

2296
01:46:53,880 --> 01:46:55,880
Speaker 1: can pull ticks off their butt and learn how to

2297
01:46:55,880 --> 01:46:59,160
Speaker 1: work perfect so, um, so we value in that. So

2298
01:46:59,240 --> 01:47:01,800
Speaker 1: we go out there and just piddle around and have

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Speaker 1: fun as a family and fish and rod four wheelers

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01:47:04,640 --> 01:47:07,120
Speaker 1: and you know, chase cows around. So it's it's a

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01:47:07,160 --> 01:47:10,400
Speaker 1: little hobby farm in East Tennessee. Um. You know, hopefully

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01:47:10,720 --> 01:47:13,680
Speaker 1: you know, the cows and the you know, chickens will

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01:47:13,720 --> 01:47:16,160
Speaker 1: at least pay for for the taxes and me give

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01:47:16,280 --> 01:47:18,679
Speaker 1: my family a place to make a lot of memories

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01:47:18,680 --> 01:47:20,599
Speaker 1: over the years. It's really good to have you back.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for coming in here. Congratulations, lineback. It'll be a

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01:47:22,920 --> 01:47:25,120
Speaker 1: fun year. Thanks man, I appreciate em. Scided Lee Smith's

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01:47:25,160 --> 01:47:26,640
Speaker 1: Bills take end back with the Bill, Steve and I

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01:47:26,760 --> 01:47:28,400
Speaker 1: coming back with more. In a moment, One goes live

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Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back,

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01:47:49,600 --> 01:47:51,559
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. Good to have

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01:47:51,800 --> 01:47:53,920
Speaker 1: Lee Smith in here. You're gonna talk with Ross Tucker

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01:47:53,920 --> 01:47:56,120
Speaker 1: in a moment former Bills offensive lineman who is a

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01:47:56,479 --> 01:48:00,400
Speaker 1: media superstar with NFL Radio dot Com, NFL in Cider,

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01:48:00,680 --> 01:48:04,160
Speaker 1: former Bill's Guard Serious X NFL Radio Starker's got a

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01:48:04,160 --> 01:48:06,080
Speaker 1: lot of opinions about stuff going on in the NFL.

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01:48:06,400 --> 01:48:10,280
Speaker 1: Lee Smith was good to reconnect with. He seems two things.

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01:48:10,280 --> 01:48:13,080
Speaker 1: Can I make two observations? Yeah, he seems genuinely happy

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01:48:13,120 --> 01:48:17,040
Speaker 1: about coming back. Number two, he seems genuinely plugged into

2320
01:48:17,080 --> 01:48:18,519
Speaker 1: the job, you know what I mean. And I think

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01:48:18,560 --> 01:48:21,520
Speaker 1: that's kind of in two or three days, he's absorbed

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01:48:21,520 --> 01:48:24,000
Speaker 1: the atmosphere around here. We got work to do, right,

2323
01:48:24,080 --> 01:48:26,599
Speaker 1: we got wins to get. Yes, he's happy to be back,

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01:48:26,600 --> 01:48:29,880
Speaker 1: happy to answer our might lame questions about restaurants, blah

2325
01:48:29,920 --> 01:48:32,120
Speaker 1: blah blah. But it's something he's here to do a job.

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01:48:32,160 --> 01:48:34,679
Speaker 1: I got that sense from him. He seems much more

2327
01:48:34,720 --> 01:48:37,160
Speaker 1: focused and serious minded than I recalled. And he's another person.

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01:48:37,280 --> 01:48:38,519
Speaker 1: You and I talk to people all the time we

2329
01:48:38,560 --> 01:48:40,280
Speaker 1: go You go to the Senior Bowl, we go to

2330
01:48:40,320 --> 01:48:42,280
Speaker 1: the Draft, we go to the Super Bowl, we do

2331
01:48:42,320 --> 01:48:44,639
Speaker 1: all we go out, and we talk to people when

2332
01:48:44,680 --> 01:48:48,320
Speaker 1: we travel all over who cover the league and who

2333
01:48:48,320 --> 01:48:51,920
Speaker 1: are in the league. And invariably anybody who's touched base

2334
01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:57,200
Speaker 1: in Buffalo always raves about it. And his seven, his

2335
01:48:57,280 --> 01:48:59,720
Speaker 1: eleven year olds stoked to come back to Buffalo and

2336
01:48:59,720 --> 01:49:03,120
Speaker 1: live here. Yeah, right, yeah, So it's it's pretty cool

2337
01:49:03,160 --> 01:49:06,960
Speaker 1: to hear that consistently every because, because I know this,

2338
01:49:07,000 --> 01:49:10,080
Speaker 1: it doesn't always happen. You know, not everybody looks back

2339
01:49:10,080 --> 01:49:11,800
Speaker 1: on where they used to play and think, wow, it's great,

2340
01:49:11,840 --> 01:49:14,120
Speaker 1: islanded good. You know, they don't always say that. And

2341
01:49:14,360 --> 01:49:16,519
Speaker 1: yet he's one more guy that not just him, but

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01:49:16,600 --> 01:49:19,720
Speaker 1: his wife and kids. It's like, Hey, we're going back

2343
01:49:19,720 --> 01:49:24,360
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. We're gonna go to Taffy's, We're gonna get wings.

2344
01:49:24,880 --> 01:49:27,120
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, it's it's pretty cool. Good, it was

2345
01:49:27,320 --> 01:49:29,439
Speaker 1: pretty cool. He's a good man. Happy to have him here,

2346
01:49:29,520 --> 01:49:31,479
Speaker 1: thanks to him for being It's being part of the

2347
01:49:31,479 --> 01:49:34,360
Speaker 1: Show Today. Now part of the show. Another former Buffalo

2348
01:49:34,400 --> 01:49:36,519
Speaker 1: Bill who's now made his name in the media. He

2349
01:49:36,640 --> 01:49:40,000
Speaker 1: is a radio dot com NFL insider. Played six seasons

2350
01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:41,760
Speaker 1: in the NFL, including a couple of years with the

2351
01:49:41,760 --> 01:49:46,040
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. Serious Sex m NFL radio host. He hosts

2352
01:49:46,040 --> 01:49:49,120
Speaker 1: the Ross Tucker Football podcast, Ross Tucker on the Line

2353
01:49:49,120 --> 01:49:51,439
Speaker 1: with us. Hello, Ross, John Murphy, Steve Tasker up in Buffalo.

2354
01:49:51,479 --> 01:49:55,240
Speaker 1: How are you, Steve? How are you guys? Well, great man,

2355
01:49:55,240 --> 01:49:58,040
Speaker 1: thanks for coming on. How's it going good? I thought

2356
01:49:58,120 --> 01:50:01,000
Speaker 1: maybe you guys were calling to resigned me. You've only

2357
01:50:01,000 --> 01:50:04,240
Speaker 1: signed about twenty seven offensive linemen this off, and you

2358
01:50:04,280 --> 01:50:06,440
Speaker 1: were next on the list, I think, But now they're

2359
01:50:06,479 --> 01:50:08,320
Speaker 1: I think they're an eighty eight, eighty nine guys, so

2360
01:50:08,320 --> 01:50:10,600
Speaker 1: they're going to sign some other positions. So sorry, I

2361
01:50:10,600 --> 01:50:12,960
Speaker 1: thought I thought I was lucky number twenty eight. I

2362
01:50:12,960 --> 01:50:15,920
Speaker 1: think you know you got They're gonna be the first

2363
01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:19,639
Speaker 1: NFL team that has a fourth string offensive lineman. That's right,

2364
01:50:19,880 --> 01:50:21,280
Speaker 1: ROSSI start with that. What do you think of that?

2365
01:50:21,439 --> 01:50:23,799
Speaker 1: Do we we you know that there are numbers? Obviously,

2366
01:50:23,880 --> 01:50:27,120
Speaker 1: what do we say? Seven free agent offensive lineman signed,

2367
01:50:27,720 --> 01:50:31,519
Speaker 1: some with var varying levels of expertise at their position

2368
01:50:31,600 --> 01:50:34,240
Speaker 1: and success so far. But have they signed enough and

2369
01:50:34,240 --> 01:50:36,200
Speaker 1: signed the right guys to make a difference upfront? Do

2370
01:50:36,240 --> 01:50:39,920
Speaker 1: you think? Well, they should certainly have a much improved

2371
01:50:39,960 --> 01:50:43,639
Speaker 1: offensive line, and I think, just with everything that happened

2372
01:50:43,640 --> 01:50:45,559
Speaker 1: a year ago, I think they needed to add a

2373
01:50:45,600 --> 01:50:47,960
Speaker 1: bunch of bodies, and I think out of the guys

2374
01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:50,840
Speaker 1: they brought in, you'd like to think they'll come away

2375
01:50:51,040 --> 01:50:54,519
Speaker 1: with a pretty darned good five. Mitch Morrise is a

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01:50:54,600 --> 01:50:58,360
Speaker 1: known commodity. I thought that the money they gave him

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01:50:58,680 --> 01:51:02,479
Speaker 1: was a little bit rich, but you know, the money's

2378
01:51:02,479 --> 01:51:04,400
Speaker 1: the money, right, I mean, at some point you got

2379
01:51:04,400 --> 01:51:06,080
Speaker 1: to pay what you had to pay to get the guy,

2380
01:51:06,680 --> 01:51:10,080
Speaker 1: and almost every guy goes for the most money, right,

2381
01:51:10,120 --> 01:51:11,880
Speaker 1: So you know, I was just having this conversation with

2382
01:51:11,920 --> 01:51:14,320
Speaker 1: people about the Jets, like, well, you know C J.

2383
01:51:14,479 --> 01:51:17,080
Speaker 1: Mosley and Lady on Belly overpaid for both those guys.

2384
01:51:17,120 --> 01:51:18,759
Speaker 1: I said, well, yeah, I mean they paid the most

2385
01:51:18,880 --> 01:51:22,639
Speaker 1: because that's why the guys went there usually, right, So usually,

2386
01:51:22,640 --> 01:51:24,680
Speaker 1: I mean you could say almost any guys signed the

2387
01:51:24,680 --> 01:51:27,800
Speaker 1: phrasey that that team overpaid him, because that's the team

2388
01:51:27,800 --> 01:51:29,320
Speaker 1: he went to. That's the team that paid him. The most.

2389
01:51:29,320 --> 01:51:31,719
Speaker 1: That's why he went there. But I like more center.

2390
01:51:31,760 --> 01:51:34,960
Speaker 1: I'll tell you who I really like, Tie and Secky

2391
01:51:35,520 --> 01:51:39,679
Speaker 1: Now his age in his background or crazy and so

2392
01:51:40,000 --> 01:51:41,519
Speaker 1: and he you know, so he's up there in a year,

2393
01:51:41,560 --> 01:51:44,760
Speaker 1: he's had the long term answer. But like last year

2394
01:51:44,800 --> 01:51:48,439
Speaker 1: when he played, he destroyed Jebon Clowney. I mean, I've

2395
01:51:48,439 --> 01:51:51,559
Speaker 1: watched the video. It was unbelievable. He was the best

2396
01:51:51,600 --> 01:51:54,960
Speaker 1: swing tackle in the NFL the last few years. I

2397
01:51:55,040 --> 01:51:57,680
Speaker 1: think he starts and plays well for a couple of

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01:51:57,760 --> 01:52:01,000
Speaker 1: years for the Bills. Cody Ford might have been the

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01:52:01,120 --> 01:52:04,679
Speaker 1: nastiest old alignment in the drafts so to be able

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01:52:04,680 --> 01:52:07,479
Speaker 1: to get him. And I think he's probably a guy

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01:52:07,560 --> 01:52:11,040
Speaker 1: almost like Ogden back in the day, that plays guard

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01:52:11,200 --> 01:52:14,400
Speaker 1: for a year maybe two, and then and then perhaps

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01:52:14,560 --> 01:52:18,840
Speaker 1: bumps out. But just morrise, Ford and Insecki, right, there

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01:52:19,520 --> 01:52:22,240
Speaker 1: are all guys that I really like. And then you've

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01:52:22,240 --> 01:52:24,880
Speaker 1: got some guys that will battle. You know, Waddle was

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01:52:24,880 --> 01:52:26,960
Speaker 1: good enough to be the swing tackle in New England,

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01:52:27,000 --> 01:52:29,120
Speaker 1: so why can't he be at least the swing tackle

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01:52:29,600 --> 01:52:33,519
Speaker 1: in Buffalo? And then Spencer Longs a guy with center

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01:52:33,640 --> 01:52:37,320
Speaker 1: guard versatility. Quentin Spain played left guard for a while

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01:52:37,720 --> 01:52:41,280
Speaker 1: for the Titans. So they're gonna have five legitimate starters,

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01:52:42,000 --> 01:52:44,040
Speaker 1: which is what I like upfront. Yeah, and that's what

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01:52:44,080 --> 01:52:45,240
Speaker 1: I was going to ask you. What about some of

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01:52:45,240 --> 01:52:48,800
Speaker 1: the guys like like Adrian Waddle and like Spencer Long,

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01:52:51,400 --> 01:52:53,920
Speaker 1: Quentin Spain. You know, there's names that are out there.

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01:52:53,960 --> 01:52:56,080
Speaker 1: They did have they do have some experience, but are

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01:52:56,080 --> 01:52:58,920
Speaker 1: they going to be anything different than the guys that

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01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:01,439
Speaker 1: other teams were rulling to say goodbye to? I mean,

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01:53:01,479 --> 01:53:03,360
Speaker 1: is there any reason to think that there's something that

2419
01:53:03,439 --> 01:53:06,800
Speaker 1: in their game that may that Buffalo may be able

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01:53:06,800 --> 01:53:08,600
Speaker 1: to get out of him that they didn't show, or

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01:53:08,720 --> 01:53:10,759
Speaker 1: was there other reasons why some of these guys got released?

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01:53:10,760 --> 01:53:13,840
Speaker 1: And they are pretty quality guys in some cases, so

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01:53:14,000 --> 01:53:16,800
Speaker 1: I look at them. Steve almost kind of like me

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01:53:17,120 --> 01:53:20,439
Speaker 1: when I went to Buffalo, which is that you know,

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01:53:20,600 --> 01:53:23,800
Speaker 1: Parcels had come into Dallas was looking to make changes.

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01:53:24,439 --> 01:53:28,120
Speaker 1: You know, he cut me. I went to Buffalo, and probably,

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01:53:28,160 --> 01:53:33,080
Speaker 1: like Waddle and Spencer Long, I was probably best served

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01:53:33,160 --> 01:53:35,680
Speaker 1: as being in a backup role. But I mean the

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01:53:35,680 --> 01:53:38,160
Speaker 1: two years I was there, you know, I think I

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01:53:38,200 --> 01:53:40,599
Speaker 1: started eighteen games for you guys, and I know we

2431
01:53:40,640 --> 01:53:44,000
Speaker 1: won more than we lost, I started at three different positions.

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01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:46,879
Speaker 1: I think that ends up being what happens with Spencer

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01:53:46,960 --> 01:53:50,880
Speaker 1: Long and Waddle. You know Russell Bodine, he does not

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01:53:51,040 --> 01:53:55,760
Speaker 1: play I've never just seen him play anything other than center, right,

2435
01:53:55,800 --> 01:53:59,559
Speaker 1: So I think bringing in Spencer Long, he's a guard center,

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01:54:00,040 --> 01:54:02,519
Speaker 1: and I think Waddle can be the swing guy at

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01:54:02,520 --> 01:54:06,559
Speaker 1: bow tackles. I always looked at it like your sixth

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01:54:06,600 --> 01:54:10,439
Speaker 1: guy is probably gonna start like eight games, and your

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01:54:10,520 --> 01:54:14,040
Speaker 1: seventh guy is probably gonna start two to four games. See,

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01:54:14,120 --> 01:54:15,720
Speaker 1: and it might be more right. I mean, you might

2441
01:54:15,720 --> 01:54:18,360
Speaker 1: you might lose two guys for the season early, or

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01:54:18,400 --> 01:54:20,439
Speaker 1: you might be fortunate and all five of your guys

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01:54:20,439 --> 01:54:24,240
Speaker 1: stay healthy. But on average, in general, I always felt

2444
01:54:24,240 --> 01:54:26,320
Speaker 1: like that was the way you had to look at it.

2445
01:54:26,600 --> 01:54:28,479
Speaker 1: And what I feel, what I really liked the Bills

2446
01:54:28,520 --> 01:54:31,000
Speaker 1: have done is that they've made it so if a

2447
01:54:31,080 --> 01:54:33,560
Speaker 1: guy inside gets hurt, I think of a couple of

2448
01:54:33,560 --> 01:54:37,760
Speaker 1: different guys really Teller, Vodine, you know, Spencer Long, that

2449
01:54:37,840 --> 01:54:40,320
Speaker 1: are battling to be that next guy in, even Vlad

2450
01:54:40,360 --> 01:54:43,360
Speaker 1: du Cost and then at tackle they've got guys better

2451
01:54:43,440 --> 01:54:45,680
Speaker 1: battling to be the next guy in. So that's what

2452
01:54:45,760 --> 01:54:48,120
Speaker 1: I like is that even if they have an injury,

2453
01:54:48,480 --> 01:54:52,520
Speaker 1: they should have a professional, competent starter in there. That

2454
01:54:52,840 --> 01:54:55,360
Speaker 1: shouldn't be the reason why the Buffalo Bills lose a

2455
01:54:55,400 --> 01:54:58,320
Speaker 1: football game. On line with Ross Tucker and former Bills guard.

2456
01:54:58,360 --> 01:55:01,440
Speaker 1: He's a radio dot Com NFL insider. You can hear

2457
01:55:01,480 --> 01:55:04,000
Speaker 1: him on the series Sex NFL Radio. What about the

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01:55:04,000 --> 01:55:06,680
Speaker 1: rest of the Bills offseason pickups? Ross in particular, you

2459
01:55:06,680 --> 01:55:09,200
Speaker 1: know a couple of veteran wide receivers called Beasley and

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01:55:09,560 --> 01:55:12,080
Speaker 1: John Brown, and of course he had Oliver first round pick.

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01:55:12,120 --> 01:55:14,880
Speaker 1: What do you think of the Bills offseason so far? Well,

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01:55:14,920 --> 01:55:17,240
Speaker 1: I thought they had an awesome offseason. Now, you know,

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01:55:17,720 --> 01:55:20,080
Speaker 1: on paper a lot of times this time of year,

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01:55:20,200 --> 01:55:21,880
Speaker 1: you look and you like a lot of the moves

2465
01:55:21,880 --> 01:55:26,520
Speaker 1: the teams make. But it's kind of unbelievable that they

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01:55:26,520 --> 01:55:30,240
Speaker 1: were as aggressive as they were on offense, even bringing

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01:55:30,280 --> 01:55:33,320
Speaker 1: in Lee Smith more recently in Croft at tight end.

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01:55:33,760 --> 01:55:35,520
Speaker 1: To have a couple of guys there, and then you

2469
01:55:35,560 --> 01:55:40,200
Speaker 1: have the young developmental guys and Dawson Knox and Tommy Sweeney.

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01:55:40,360 --> 01:55:46,080
Speaker 1: They needed some other weapons for Josh Allen at wide receiver,

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01:55:46,320 --> 01:55:49,280
Speaker 1: you got the speed guy and John Brown. You have

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01:55:49,400 --> 01:55:52,800
Speaker 1: the slot guy in Beasley. We know Foster came on

2473
01:55:52,920 --> 01:55:55,880
Speaker 1: as the year went, so it's another I mean, last year,

2474
01:55:56,480 --> 01:55:58,520
Speaker 1: I think you could argue at times Foster was like

2475
01:55:58,560 --> 01:56:02,040
Speaker 1: their number one receiver and maybe he grows into that,

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01:56:02,360 --> 01:56:04,280
Speaker 1: but I don't. He doesn't mean he didn't need to

2477
01:56:04,280 --> 01:56:07,920
Speaker 1: be that. Now they've got other competent guys that Josh

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01:56:07,920 --> 01:56:11,160
Speaker 1: Allen can go to. The one place where I thought

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01:56:11,200 --> 01:56:15,240
Speaker 1: that they were still kind of lacking after the offseason,

2480
01:56:15,640 --> 01:56:20,200
Speaker 1: after the free agency, really was an interior rusher, you know,

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01:56:20,240 --> 01:56:24,200
Speaker 1: a guy that could really make a difference. It's unbelievable

2482
01:56:24,200 --> 01:56:28,240
Speaker 1: to me with the Daniel Jones pick and the Cleveland

2483
01:56:28,320 --> 01:56:31,240
Speaker 1: Farrell pick that it worked out that the Bills were

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01:56:31,240 --> 01:56:33,840
Speaker 1: able to get At Oliver at nine. That's I mean,

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01:56:34,120 --> 01:56:36,760
Speaker 1: that was I mean, it's nice that the Lions got

2486
01:56:36,760 --> 01:56:41,360
Speaker 1: Hockinson and the Jags got Josh Allen, but no one

2487
01:56:41,600 --> 01:56:45,840
Speaker 1: got the Bills literally got a guy that some people

2488
01:56:45,880 --> 01:56:49,280
Speaker 1: thought might go top three at what I thought was

2489
01:56:49,480 --> 01:56:52,600
Speaker 1: by far their biggest position of need. That's really rare.

2490
01:56:52,840 --> 01:56:55,800
Speaker 1: That's obviously what every team says after the draft, but

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01:56:55,960 --> 01:56:58,720
Speaker 1: for the Bills, I mean, to get at Oliver at

2492
01:56:58,840 --> 01:57:02,720
Speaker 1: nine is crazy. When it was clearly the biggest hole

2493
01:57:02,760 --> 01:57:05,840
Speaker 1: on their roster. It worked out beautifully. They couldn't have

2494
01:57:05,920 --> 01:57:08,720
Speaker 1: known that it would happen that way, but man, I

2495
01:57:09,240 --> 01:57:11,400
Speaker 1: bet them they're glad that it did. Yeah, it's a

2496
01:57:11,440 --> 01:57:14,080
Speaker 1: little bit like manna from heaven, having you know, at

2497
01:57:14,120 --> 01:57:16,840
Speaker 1: Oliver drop into your lap like that, no question, And

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01:57:17,080 --> 01:57:20,240
Speaker 1: one of the reasons that that happened was that you

2499
01:57:20,400 --> 01:57:26,320
Speaker 1: mentioned it. The Giants took Daniel Jones. That was unexpected

2500
01:57:26,400 --> 01:57:28,200
Speaker 1: for a lot of people. It was unexpected for me,

2501
01:57:28,720 --> 01:57:31,080
Speaker 1: and a lot of people were crushing the Giants for

2502
01:57:31,160 --> 01:57:33,320
Speaker 1: doing that. But you're not so much. I mean, you

2503
01:57:33,960 --> 01:57:36,760
Speaker 1: kind of like Daniel Jones tell us about that well,

2504
01:57:36,800 --> 01:57:39,400
Speaker 1: I wrote about it this week for The Athletic. I

2505
01:57:39,440 --> 01:57:42,280
Speaker 1: don't even I only watched a couple parts of a

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01:57:42,280 --> 01:57:45,520
Speaker 1: couple of games of them, Steve. What I don't like, though,

2507
01:57:46,240 --> 01:57:48,920
Speaker 1: is all of these people, some in the media, but

2508
01:57:49,080 --> 01:57:54,760
Speaker 1: all kinds of fans piling on and just crushing the pick.

2509
01:57:55,320 --> 01:57:58,120
Speaker 1: When they call into my radio show or I talked

2510
01:57:58,120 --> 01:58:00,640
Speaker 1: to him on my podcast. I asked them which due

2511
01:58:00,680 --> 01:58:03,680
Speaker 1: game they watched last year. You should hear them stutter.

2512
01:58:04,280 --> 01:58:07,480
Speaker 1: They never watched the kid, They've never watched them play.

2513
01:58:07,560 --> 01:58:09,720
Speaker 1: And so the point I would make is, Number one,

2514
01:58:10,200 --> 01:58:12,240
Speaker 1: are we really going to listen to people that never

2515
01:58:12,280 --> 01:58:14,520
Speaker 1: even watched the guy play? Are we really gonna let

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01:58:14,560 --> 01:58:18,360
Speaker 1: the twitter the roar of the Twitter critics be that

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01:58:18,480 --> 01:58:21,080
Speaker 1: overwhelming when they've never watched the number one? Number two,

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01:58:21,440 --> 01:58:25,840
Speaker 1: if we've learned anything from the draft, it's that anybody

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01:58:25,880 --> 01:58:30,280
Speaker 1: that definitively right after it happens acts like they know

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01:58:30,480 --> 01:58:33,560
Speaker 1: for sure. You know that some guy's going to be

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01:58:33,680 --> 01:58:36,440
Speaker 1: terrible or some guy's gonna be great, You're gonna be

2522
01:58:36,480 --> 01:58:38,400
Speaker 1: wrong a lot. I mean, there's a reader why Patrick

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01:58:38,440 --> 01:58:41,560
Speaker 1: Mahomes wasn't didn't go till eleven, you know, I mean

2524
01:58:41,960 --> 01:58:45,000
Speaker 1: the best took mister Biskins and Patrick Mahomes. I mean,

2525
01:58:45,000 --> 01:58:49,120
Speaker 1: in hindsight, think about that, that's crazy. But at the time,

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01:58:49,480 --> 01:58:51,720
Speaker 1: nobody thought that that was that big a deal. I mean,

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01:58:51,720 --> 01:58:55,240
Speaker 1: if everybody, if everybody's so smart, why wasn't every single

2528
01:58:55,240 --> 01:59:01,040
Speaker 1: one of these guys screaming? How could the Bears Trubisky's head,

2529
01:59:01,080 --> 01:59:04,800
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson and Patrick Mahomes. This is insane. So my

2530
01:59:04,880 --> 01:59:08,720
Speaker 1: point is nobody really knows, like nobody really, so to

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01:59:08,880 --> 01:59:12,760
Speaker 1: just be that adamant that Daniel Jones is terrible and

2532
01:59:12,760 --> 01:59:14,720
Speaker 1: it was a horrible pick. Everybody like, we'll look at

2533
01:59:14,760 --> 01:59:17,920
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, look at Dwayne Haskins. Do you guys realize

2534
01:59:18,120 --> 01:59:22,000
Speaker 1: Duke has had another player drafted since twenty fifteen, not

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01:59:22,280 --> 01:59:26,600
Speaker 1: another dude drafted. Oklahoma had four offensive lineman go in

2536
01:59:26,600 --> 01:59:29,960
Speaker 1: the first four rounds, including Cody Ford up there to Buffalo.

2537
01:59:30,280 --> 01:59:33,080
Speaker 1: Their wide receiver was the first pick off the board

2538
01:59:33,080 --> 01:59:36,440
Speaker 1: in the first round. Guess what, ceedee Land their other receiver,

2539
01:59:36,680 --> 01:59:38,840
Speaker 1: He'll be in the first round next year. And the

2540
01:59:38,840 --> 01:59:42,160
Speaker 1: only offensive lineman that wasn't drafted, Creed Humphrey, was a

2541
01:59:42,160 --> 01:59:44,760
Speaker 1: freshman All American and he'll be a top three round

2542
01:59:44,760 --> 01:59:47,720
Speaker 1: guy next year when he leaves school, was a Richard sophomore.

2543
01:59:47,920 --> 01:59:50,320
Speaker 1: My point is, I'd like to see what Daniel Jones

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01:59:50,360 --> 01:59:52,720
Speaker 1: would have done for Ohio State in Oklahoma, and I'd

2545
01:59:52,720 --> 01:59:56,440
Speaker 1: like to see what you know, Kyler Murray and Dwayne

2546
01:59:56,440 --> 01:59:58,760
Speaker 1: Haskins would have done for Duke. You ever seen a

2547
01:59:58,840 --> 02:00:01,920
Speaker 1: guys for Duke playing against Clemson. It's not pretty. They're

2548
02:00:01,960 --> 02:00:04,120
Speaker 1: not the same type of human beings, right, Russ is

2549
02:00:04,200 --> 02:00:07,440
Speaker 1: the most legitimate complain I guess about that pick that

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02:00:07,520 --> 02:00:10,000
Speaker 1: it when it's six overall and maybe not seventeen or

2551
02:00:10,040 --> 02:00:14,120
Speaker 1: sometime later. Right. And my point to that, Murph would be,

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02:00:14,840 --> 02:00:19,800
Speaker 1: if the Giants liked Daniel Jones more than Dwayne Haskins

2553
02:00:19,920 --> 02:00:24,400
Speaker 1: and Drew Locke, which they clearly did, how could you

2554
02:00:25,240 --> 02:00:30,440
Speaker 1: take the chance that nobody behind you like the Broncos

2555
02:00:30,600 --> 02:00:33,520
Speaker 1: or the Redskins. I mean, there were reports out that

2556
02:00:33,680 --> 02:00:38,120
Speaker 1: the Redskins coaching staff prefer Daniel Jones, and then it

2557
02:00:38,160 --> 02:00:41,960
Speaker 1: was the owner, Daniel Snyder, that wanted Haskins because he

2558
02:00:42,040 --> 02:00:44,640
Speaker 1: went to high school, the Bullish School in DC with

2559
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Speaker 1: his son. So if you're the Giants, in my mind,

2560
02:00:48,200 --> 02:00:52,160
Speaker 1: you can't take that chance. And even psychologically right, there'd

2561
02:00:52,200 --> 02:00:54,880
Speaker 1: always be like the Giants would never be able to

2562
02:00:55,000 --> 02:00:59,680
Speaker 1: argue that they absolutely loved Daniel Jones if they took

2563
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Speaker 1: him at seventeen seat of six. And my point to that,

2564
02:01:02,640 --> 02:01:06,200
Speaker 1: Murph would be, if he's good, he's what they obviously

2565
02:01:06,240 --> 02:01:09,520
Speaker 1: think he is, nobody will ever care that he wanted six. Right.

2566
02:01:09,880 --> 02:01:12,920
Speaker 1: If he's bad, Dave get him in the GM and

2567
02:01:12,960 --> 02:01:15,240
Speaker 1: Pat Shermer, the head coach, will both be fired as

2568
02:01:15,240 --> 02:01:17,720
Speaker 1: a result. They will, I mean, because he'll play in

2569
02:01:17,760 --> 02:01:20,880
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. If not this year, he'll be bad and

2570
02:01:20,960 --> 02:01:24,200
Speaker 1: they'll ultimately be fired as a result. So what difference

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02:01:24,240 --> 02:01:26,800
Speaker 1: does it make. I don't think you take the chance

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Speaker 1: of not getting him, because if they liked him that much,

2573
02:01:30,040 --> 02:01:32,840
Speaker 1: it's kind of like Mike Mayock and Cleveland Farrell in

2574
02:01:32,880 --> 02:01:35,640
Speaker 1: Oakland to four. You know, maybe they could have traded down,

2575
02:01:35,760 --> 02:01:38,240
Speaker 1: or maybe they could have gotten him later. But if

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Speaker 1: they liked him more than all these other guys like

2577
02:01:40,520 --> 02:01:43,600
Speaker 1: Josh Allen and Ed Oliver, and what how do they

2578
02:01:43,600 --> 02:01:46,400
Speaker 1: know other people didn't? I got you right. Hey, we're

2579
02:01:46,440 --> 02:01:50,760
Speaker 1: with Ross Tucker from Sirius sex Tim NFL Radio. This

2580
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Speaker 1: came up Stemen are talking about this. Joe Flacco had

2581
02:01:53,080 --> 02:01:56,000
Speaker 1: a quote yesterday about how his job is not really

2582
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Speaker 1: to mentor Drew Lock or worry about him, it's to

2583
02:01:58,320 --> 02:02:00,360
Speaker 1: worry about himself. What do you think of the Ross?

2584
02:02:00,400 --> 02:02:02,560
Speaker 1: I think I know how you'll feel. But what do

2585
02:02:02,600 --> 02:02:04,520
Speaker 1: you think of Flacco admitting that that he's not there

2586
02:02:04,520 --> 02:02:08,040
Speaker 1: to mentor the rookie they drafted? Yeah? Well, I tweeted

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Speaker 1: about today at Ross Tucker NFL. I've got no problem

2588
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Speaker 1: with it, and actually I hope most I encourage most

2589
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Speaker 1: people to read. Uh, you know the full context of

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Speaker 1: both of Joe's responses to those questions, right, because he

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02:02:22,040 --> 02:02:25,320
Speaker 1: talked about, you know, kind of being an open book

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Speaker 1: and you know Drew can learn from him and hopefully

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Speaker 1: he develops and is able to learn by watching what

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Speaker 1: Joe does. But he also said, you know, that was

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Speaker 1: the first answer. Then the second answer was specifically, do

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02:02:38,440 --> 02:02:41,120
Speaker 1: you feel like it's your job to be a mentor

2597
02:02:41,200 --> 02:02:43,400
Speaker 1: to Drew Luck? And he's like, you know, you got

2598
02:02:43,400 --> 02:02:46,400
Speaker 1: to be careful how he answered that question, because people,

2599
02:02:46,680 --> 02:02:48,840
Speaker 1: you know, can can blow it out of proportion. He's like,

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02:02:48,840 --> 02:02:52,000
Speaker 1: but no, I don't really feel like that's my job.

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02:02:52,200 --> 02:02:54,480
Speaker 1: You know. I feel like my job is to be

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02:02:54,520 --> 02:02:56,920
Speaker 1: the best quarterback I can be in win games. I

2603
02:02:56,960 --> 02:02:59,160
Speaker 1: feel like that's why we have a quarterback coach and

2604
02:02:59,280 --> 02:03:02,560
Speaker 1: offensive nator. But like I said, I hope Drew learns

2605
02:03:02,600 --> 02:03:04,640
Speaker 1: from me and is able to watch me and him.

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02:03:04,680 --> 02:03:06,680
Speaker 1: I'm happy to help him if he asks me a question.

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02:03:06,720 --> 02:03:08,920
Speaker 1: But no, I don't think it's my job to be

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02:03:08,960 --> 02:03:12,360
Speaker 1: a mentor. And of course that it's it's May fourteen,

2609
02:03:12,440 --> 02:03:15,560
Speaker 1: so that becomes the headline and I've got no problem.

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02:03:15,720 --> 02:03:19,320
Speaker 1: Look what other walk of life. Okay, are you in

2611
02:03:19,400 --> 02:03:24,200
Speaker 1: a room with the guy that they just hired to

2612
02:03:24,320 --> 02:03:27,480
Speaker 1: take your job? I mean, what are what are our industry?

2613
02:03:27,680 --> 02:03:31,080
Speaker 1: Is it like that? And I mean picture that, Murph.

2614
02:03:31,360 --> 02:03:34,440
Speaker 1: You know, every every Sunday when you're doing the Bills game,

2615
02:03:34,840 --> 02:03:38,280
Speaker 1: they've got the guy in there in the booth with

2616
02:03:38,520 --> 02:03:42,080
Speaker 1: you and Kelso and hey, Murph, during the breaks, we

2617
02:03:42,120 --> 02:03:43,800
Speaker 1: really want to get this guy up to speech so

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02:03:43,840 --> 02:03:46,480
Speaker 1: we can take your job soon. During the breaks, can

2619
02:03:46,520 --> 02:03:50,000
Speaker 1: you help Johnny Tasker, you know, to Luke. Can you

2620
02:03:50,040 --> 02:03:52,080
Speaker 1: help Luke Tasker to be the next play by play

2621
02:03:52,120 --> 02:03:54,920
Speaker 1: guy for the Bills because we really want him to

2622
02:03:54,960 --> 02:03:57,440
Speaker 1: be the guy, and so, you know, the sooner that

2623
02:03:57,480 --> 02:03:59,600
Speaker 1: can happen and we can get rid of you because

2624
02:03:59,600 --> 02:04:02,640
Speaker 1: you're old now, Murph, let me think about that. Yet,

2625
02:04:02,760 --> 02:04:05,480
Speaker 1: you wouldn't want to be helping little Luke Casker during

2626
02:04:05,520 --> 02:04:08,360
Speaker 1: the break. So I didn't think it's crazy. I mean,

2627
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Speaker 1: I know I wouldn't. I look back, I think it

2628
02:04:11,640 --> 02:04:13,680
Speaker 1: was too nice to the younger guys. We're going to

2629
02:04:13,680 --> 02:04:16,240
Speaker 1: get a lot of mileage out of this, and it

2630
02:04:16,320 --> 02:04:19,440
Speaker 1: was I agree with you completely Rosin. In fact, it

2631
02:04:19,560 --> 02:04:22,560
Speaker 1: was my thing that it's it's Drew Locke's job to

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02:04:22,640 --> 02:04:26,480
Speaker 1: help Joe Flacco win, not vice, not the reverse dredge.

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Speaker 1: Locke is now on a team where Joe Flacco is

2634
02:04:28,440 --> 02:04:32,400
Speaker 1: the starter. It's his job to help Joe win. Think

2635
02:04:32,400 --> 02:04:36,200
Speaker 1: about this. Do you think that Vic Fangio the head coach,

2636
02:04:36,520 --> 02:04:39,520
Speaker 1: or Elway the GM, or even any of the Broncos players.

2637
02:04:39,920 --> 02:04:43,200
Speaker 1: Do you think those guys want Joe Flacco to spend

2638
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Speaker 1: his time, you know, in study hall with Drew Locke.

2639
02:04:46,840 --> 02:04:49,840
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? That's the last thing that they want.

2640
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Speaker 1: They want Flacco to prepare his butt off for every

2641
02:04:53,480 --> 02:04:56,840
Speaker 1: game and to help the Denver Broncos get back to

2642
02:04:56,840 --> 02:05:00,440
Speaker 1: the playoff. Von Miller, Chris Harris. They're sticking lou losing.

2643
02:05:00,600 --> 02:05:03,560
Speaker 1: They don't care about Drew Luck, you know, needing a

2644
02:05:03,600 --> 02:05:06,320
Speaker 1: mentor give me a break. Now, I gotta ask you

2645
02:05:06,400 --> 02:05:09,120
Speaker 1: about another quarterback that made the move. Josh Rosen went

2646
02:05:09,160 --> 02:05:11,920
Speaker 1: from Arizona. Now he's a Miami Dolphin. He's sitting behind

2647
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Speaker 1: everybody's best buddy, Ryan Fitzpatrick. How do you think that's

2648
02:05:14,920 --> 02:05:18,320
Speaker 1: going to play out in Miami? Well, I'm not sure

2649
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Speaker 1: Josh Rosen is better than Ryan Fitzpatrick, but I don't

2650
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Speaker 1: really see the value for the Dolphins in playing Ryan

2651
02:05:25,560 --> 02:05:28,800
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick and I love fits like everybody does, right, but

2652
02:05:29,200 --> 02:05:31,919
Speaker 1: I think that the I'm not gonna say the Dolphins

2653
02:05:31,920 --> 02:05:35,520
Speaker 1: are tanking, but it's very clear when you look at

2654
02:05:35,520 --> 02:05:40,160
Speaker 1: every transaction that they've made that winning games in twenty

2655
02:05:40,280 --> 02:05:42,800
Speaker 1: nineteen is not the priority. And by the way, I

2656
02:05:42,920 --> 02:05:45,960
Speaker 1: respect that. I think that's still probably what they should do.

2657
02:05:46,360 --> 02:05:49,120
Speaker 1: I think they should try to build it for sustainable

2658
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Speaker 1: success really in twenty twenty and going forward. I think

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Speaker 1: part of that is trying to figure out whether or

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Speaker 1: not Josh Rosen can be the guy. I think it's perfect.

2661
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Speaker 1: I think if John Rosen shows he's the guy and

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02:06:02,160 --> 02:06:05,000
Speaker 1: they and they end up being five hundred, well great.

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02:06:05,080 --> 02:06:07,080
Speaker 1: You know Rosen was able to do it under tough

2664
02:06:07,080 --> 02:06:09,000
Speaker 1: circumstances and they only had to give up a second

2665
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Speaker 1: in the fifth round. Picking they got him on the

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Speaker 1: cheek for three more years. If Rosen's not the guy

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02:06:13,680 --> 02:06:15,960
Speaker 1: and they lose a bunch, well then great, they'll be

2668
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Speaker 1: right back at it. Get another bite at the apple,

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Speaker 1: whether it's justin Herbert or to a tungle via Looa.

2670
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Speaker 1: In the twenty twenty NFL draft, Hey Ross, we appreciate

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02:06:24,520 --> 02:06:27,680
Speaker 1: your time today with us on the show. Ever since

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02:06:27,800 --> 02:06:29,720
Speaker 1: I watch you at the Super Bowl back in February,

2673
02:06:29,760 --> 02:06:31,440
Speaker 1: and I've said this to see one hundred times since

2674
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Speaker 1: that Ross Tucker is the hardest working man in football media.

2675
02:06:35,240 --> 02:06:36,880
Speaker 1: I really believe that you really good after it. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate that. You know what, Murph, I'm trying to be.

2677
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to be the most high profile backup interior

2678
02:06:42,800 --> 02:06:46,720
Speaker 1: journeyman offensive lineman media. You're an involving her. I guess

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Speaker 1: it's yeah, exactly, and I'm still not succeeding in us.

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Speaker 1: It's great to talk to. Appreciate it. Ross, Thanks man,

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Speaker 1: all right, see you guys. Ross Tucker Radio dot Com,

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Speaker 1: NFL inside Are You can hear him on Serious x

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Speaker 1: he's all over the place. He's great, he's right, and

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Speaker 1: you can tell he's got a great sense of humored

2686
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Speaker 1: trying to be that was the great profile backup backup

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Speaker 1: in the offensive linemen in the media, and he's still not.

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Speaker 1: Think we're back with more in a moment One Bill's

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Speaker 1: Live from One Bill's Driving. This is Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. What have we learned from today? Show? Presented

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Speaker 1: I gotta sneeze, go ahead taking it. There you go,

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Speaker 1: Thank you? What have we learned from today's shown? That's

2696
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Speaker 1: that's what we get. I'm a fourteenth right now here?

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Speaker 1: What are we? When Michael Hyde was on the show,

2698
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Speaker 1: great guests, as I said, one of the best guests

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Speaker 1: we ever get on the current roster, talking about a

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Speaker 1: variety of topics, the Buffalo defense, how good they might be,

2701
02:08:06,960 --> 02:08:09,800
Speaker 1: and talking about what Ed Oliver means to his Buffalo defense.

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02:08:09,840 --> 02:08:13,800
Speaker 1: Here's what Micah Hyde have to say. Yeah, he comes

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Speaker 1: off that line quick. I mean I haven't got to

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Speaker 1: watch too much watch him too much, but uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's a special guy. Who saw his highlights who he's

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Speaker 1: making those offensive lineman look like look like high school,

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Speaker 1: high school with kids. I was just tending to see.

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Speaker 1: To me, he almost represents kind of a new way

2709
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Speaker 1: of playing defense up front in the league. He can

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Speaker 1: what do you think of that? Well, I just think

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Speaker 1: with him. Um, you know, he's able to get up

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Speaker 1: that quarterback, you know, and that's why I love as

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Speaker 1: defensive back, you know, putting the pressure on the quarterback,

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Speaker 1: making that ball come out quicker. We're able to break

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Speaker 1: on him and try to get more takeaway. So, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, I appreciate. I appreciate what he's going to

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Speaker 1: do for our defense. There you go, Micah Hyde. It

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02:08:50,680 --> 02:08:53,320
Speaker 1: was a great chat with him. Also, Lee Smith joined

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02:08:53,360 --> 02:08:55,400
Speaker 1: us brand new Bill's tight end who just came back.

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02:08:55,600 --> 02:08:57,960
Speaker 1: We asked him if he thinks the Bill's expecting to

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02:08:57,960 --> 02:09:00,600
Speaker 1: be a leader, a veteran leader in the game room

2722
02:09:00,640 --> 02:09:06,760
Speaker 1: this year. I mean, obviously, I'm an older guy, you know,

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Speaker 1: that's hung around and been around and been through a

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Speaker 1: lot of different coaches and in a couple of different organizations.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I've I've been with the MVP quarterback

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Speaker 1: who was just tearing the league up. I've been on

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02:09:16,880 --> 02:09:18,600
Speaker 1: a you know, four win season. You know, I've kind

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02:09:18,640 --> 02:09:21,160
Speaker 1: of been a little part of everything. So I think

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02:09:21,160 --> 02:09:22,840
Speaker 1: I've kind of seen it all. And I like to

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02:09:22,880 --> 02:09:25,520
Speaker 1: think that, you know, I'm a I'm a decent guy.

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02:09:25,720 --> 02:09:28,880
Speaker 1: So hopefully I can come in here and just help

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02:09:28,920 --> 02:09:31,000
Speaker 1: these guys and show them what it looks like to

2733
02:09:31,040 --> 02:09:33,560
Speaker 1: be a pro every day. And if if they can,

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02:09:34,280 --> 02:09:36,080
Speaker 1: you know, grab one little thing for my sorry, but

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02:09:36,280 --> 02:09:38,120
Speaker 1: in my time with them, then that'll help me sleep

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02:09:38,160 --> 02:09:40,520
Speaker 1: at night. And I want to give back to these

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02:09:40,520 --> 02:09:42,920
Speaker 1: tight ends. I'm sure as heck not here to steal

2738
02:09:42,960 --> 02:09:46,160
Speaker 1: neither glory or take anybody's job. I'm here to do

2739
02:09:46,240 --> 02:09:48,720
Speaker 1: my job, whatever that is, and whatever other tight ends

2740
02:09:48,720 --> 02:09:50,400
Speaker 1: are in the room with me, I'll pour into them

2741
02:09:50,440 --> 02:09:53,520
Speaker 1: everything I have. For sure. Lee Smith back with the Bills.

2742
02:09:53,560 --> 02:09:54,800
Speaker 1: You know what struck me, Seamen, We were talking to

2743
02:09:54,840 --> 02:09:56,880
Speaker 1: Lege Smith about how, yeah he was here during a

2744
02:09:56,960 --> 02:09:59,640
Speaker 1: couple of tough years for the Bills eleven, twenty eleven

2745
02:09:59,720 --> 02:10:03,440
Speaker 1: through twenty fourteen. Right, no playoff berths, some trouble, and

2746
02:10:03,520 --> 02:10:06,240
Speaker 1: yet there are good memories. You know, they're games there,

2747
02:10:06,320 --> 02:10:09,320
Speaker 1: they're interactions with players, not just for me, but among

2748
02:10:09,360 --> 02:10:11,440
Speaker 1: players right now. No matter where are you playing, you played,

2749
02:10:11,440 --> 02:10:12,880
Speaker 1: you played in a couple of time. I've played on

2750
02:10:12,920 --> 02:10:15,720
Speaker 1: a lot of bad teams. You played in Northwestern, I'm sure,

2751
02:10:15,800 --> 02:10:19,880
Speaker 1: yeah you remember those days. Yeah, yeah, you make a

2752
02:10:19,920 --> 02:10:22,040
Speaker 1: lot of great relationships from him, and when you when

2753
02:10:22,040 --> 02:10:23,640
Speaker 1: it's all said and done. And when you do get

2754
02:10:23,640 --> 02:10:25,720
Speaker 1: to a point where you have some success, it's those

2755
02:10:25,800 --> 02:10:28,520
Speaker 1: times where it wasn't so good that help you appreciate it.

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02:10:28,600 --> 02:10:30,320
Speaker 1: You know what it's like, Andy, You can see the

2757
02:10:30,360 --> 02:10:33,320
Speaker 1: difference in in a great team and the difference that

2758
02:10:33,720 --> 02:10:35,720
Speaker 1: in that team than it was the teams that weren't great,

2759
02:10:36,120 --> 02:10:39,440
Speaker 1: the teams that struggled, and the reasons why, and it

2760
02:10:39,480 --> 02:10:43,480
Speaker 1: makes you, you know, cultivate those things and every team

2761
02:10:43,520 --> 02:10:45,440
Speaker 1: you get onto because it gives you the insight and

2762
02:10:45,760 --> 02:10:48,400
Speaker 1: the experience to realize how important they all are. And

2763
02:10:48,440 --> 02:10:50,720
Speaker 1: I guess the point is just because the team's one

2764
02:10:50,800 --> 02:10:54,040
Speaker 1: lost record is bad, everybody's not miserable. No, it's not.

2765
02:10:54,080 --> 02:10:55,920
Speaker 1: Because you still enjoy the guys you work with and

2766
02:10:56,120 --> 02:10:59,960
Speaker 1: even if it's not going well, and listen, no matter

2767
02:11:00,080 --> 02:11:03,000
Speaker 1: how bad it gets, you know, you're still strapping on

2768
02:11:03,040 --> 02:11:05,040
Speaker 1: a helmet in the NFL again, and you're playing a

2769
02:11:05,080 --> 02:11:06,600
Speaker 1: game for a lot of money in front of a

2770
02:11:06,600 --> 02:11:08,200
Speaker 1: lot of people who really like you, whether you win

2771
02:11:08,320 --> 02:11:10,520
Speaker 1: or lose, and all the you know, there's all a

2772
02:11:10,520 --> 02:11:13,080
Speaker 1: lot of good and bad in there. But it's hard

2773
02:11:13,120 --> 02:11:15,760
Speaker 1: to say that being a pro athlete under any circumstances

2774
02:11:15,800 --> 02:11:17,560
Speaker 1: in a pretty good place to be. So that's another

2775
02:11:17,560 --> 02:11:19,480
Speaker 1: thing we learned from today's show. We learned this too

2776
02:11:19,960 --> 02:11:22,520
Speaker 1: our Twitter poll. The Bills finished second in total defense

2777
02:11:22,560 --> 02:11:24,960
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen. We asked the question, will the Bills

2778
02:11:24,960 --> 02:11:27,360
Speaker 1: finish in the top five again this year in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 1: Overwhelmingly on the Twitter poll, with seven eighty eight votes,

2780
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Speaker 1: eighty six percent of you said yeah, They're gonna be

2781
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Speaker 1: top five in defense again. Fourteen percent said no. Most

2782
02:11:37,320 --> 02:11:39,480
Speaker 1: of the responses on the tweet sheet were pretty positive.

2783
02:11:39,520 --> 02:11:41,840
Speaker 1: Scene yeah. From Wendell, he says, I definitely believe that

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02:11:41,880 --> 02:11:45,320
Speaker 1: the Bill Collectors will be a top five defense, if

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02:11:45,360 --> 02:11:47,840
Speaker 1: not the top defense in the NFL this year. They

2786
02:11:47,840 --> 02:11:51,360
Speaker 1: are gonna go eleven and five and dethrone the Patriots.

2787
02:11:52,120 --> 02:11:54,360
Speaker 1: That's from Wendell. From Anthony, he says, last year, the

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Speaker 1: Bills were eighteenth and points allowed eighth, and takeaways in

2789
02:11:57,360 --> 02:12:01,040
Speaker 1: sixteenth and rush yards allowed. These need to be improved. However,

2790
02:12:01,080 --> 02:12:03,560
Speaker 1: the defense's average starting field position was the worst in

2791
02:12:03,560 --> 02:12:05,920
Speaker 1: the league. A better offense will help with that, and

2792
02:12:05,920 --> 02:12:08,160
Speaker 1: that's been one of the overriding themes as well, because,

2793
02:12:08,480 --> 02:12:10,720
Speaker 1: let's face the offense struggle to score last year had

2794
02:12:10,720 --> 02:12:13,800
Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback, not very many weapons they and they

2795
02:12:13,840 --> 02:12:16,400
Speaker 1: put in They had a rookie free agent Robert Foster,

2796
02:12:16,440 --> 02:12:18,520
Speaker 1: who emerges their number one receiver in the second half

2797
02:12:18,520 --> 02:12:20,760
Speaker 1: of the season. I mean that had some things they

2798
02:12:20,760 --> 02:12:22,400
Speaker 1: had to fight through. Last year. They had a tight

2799
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Speaker 1: end and Charles Clay, who was on and off the field,

2800
02:12:24,560 --> 02:12:27,360
Speaker 1: didn't practice very much, so they and their offensive line

2801
02:12:27,560 --> 02:12:30,840
Speaker 1: was a mess yep. So they were struggling, and that

2802
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Speaker 1: struggle offensively certainly put the bit defense in a position

2803
02:12:35,440 --> 02:12:37,400
Speaker 1: that was tough to fight through a lot of times.

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Speaker 1: That gets overlooked a lot. I think the synergy between

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Speaker 1: offense and defense and special teams, right, I mean we

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02:12:42,760 --> 02:12:44,960
Speaker 1: pull it out look at stances though the defense does this,

2807
02:12:45,040 --> 02:12:47,640
Speaker 1: the offense does this, but it all does work together.

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Speaker 1: And that's in a stute comment from who was that

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02:12:49,960 --> 02:12:52,560
Speaker 1: tweet response that was from Anthony, it's a stute comment

2810
02:12:52,640 --> 02:12:55,000
Speaker 1: to realize that the offense put the defense in bad

2811
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Speaker 1: positions last year. And from Tiffany, she says, I'm expect,

2812
02:12:57,880 --> 02:13:00,840
Speaker 1: I expect. I'm excited to see tremain dominate in his

2813
02:13:00,920 --> 02:13:03,360
Speaker 1: second season. He's a phenomenal player. Lorenzo is still a

2814
02:13:03,360 --> 02:13:05,680
Speaker 1: heartbeat of the team and a true leader. He still

2815
02:13:05,720 --> 02:13:08,720
Speaker 1: brings the juice on game day on game day top

2816
02:13:08,760 --> 02:13:12,760
Speaker 1: five and beyond Vivlos Bills. There you go, there, we

2817
02:13:12,800 --> 02:13:15,040
Speaker 1: got a good show coming up tomorrow. Harrison Phillips will

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Speaker 1: join us tomorrow after the offseason conditioning program. Harrison had

2819
02:13:18,720 --> 02:13:22,000
Speaker 1: a special personal relationship with the late Poncho Bia, who

2820
02:13:22,040 --> 02:13:24,360
Speaker 1: passed away today. Sadly the Bills affected by that. And

2821
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Speaker 1: we'll talk with Harrison Phillips about that and about getting

2822
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Speaker 1: himself ready to play his second year in the league.

2823
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Speaker 1: And one of your buddies, Frank Greig's on the show tomorrow.

2824
02:13:32,280 --> 02:13:34,400
Speaker 1: One of my buddy, the head coach of the Indianapos

2825
02:13:35,640 --> 02:13:37,960
Speaker 1: is not just a buddy. Stage, Yeah, Frank Gregg with

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Speaker 1: us to talk about his I was gonna mention that,

2827
02:13:40,240 --> 02:13:42,400
Speaker 1: but and he's coming in town for his event he

2828
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Speaker 1: has every year, that Colden Courage Breakfast coming up on Saturday.

2829
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Speaker 1: Andy Dalton will be the honoree. This year is kind

2830
02:13:47,920 --> 02:13:49,280
Speaker 1: of a big deal. It's it's gonna be a lot

2831
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Speaker 1: of fun. Steve and I will be there this weekend,

2832
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Speaker 1: so we'll talk with Frank tomorrow. Production assistance from George

2833
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Speaker 1: Blast Jeff Colton, At Thomas Honander, Kelly Rude, jj Urto,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Cargi, James Roebel, our producer Jay Harrison. Tomorrow noon,

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