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Today, Bloomberg LA host Greg Store discusses 7 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: the ongoing legal fight between Apple and qual Calm over 8 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: the technology that allows most smartphones to send him received data. 9 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:31,319 Speaker 1: He speaks with Max Chafkin, a reporter for Bloomberg Business Week. 10 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: Tell us, tell him, explain to me what Qualcom's great 11 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: technology is and why it is so important to my 12 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: my iPhone. Pretty much any phone you own today relies 13 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: on this Qualcom technology, which is the technology that allows 14 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: you to send and receive data through a cellular connection. 15 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: So if you're making a phone call or or sending 16 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: a mobile message, or going on Snapchat, or doing pretty 17 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: much anything you do in the modern world that is 18 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: that is using a three G or four G connection, 19 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: you rely on Basically this this big basket of patents 20 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: that that Qualcom developed, which which sort of figures out 21 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: how to squeeze data into radio signals, and to do 22 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: it efficiently, they charge a a flat royalty on the 23 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: on the price of every handset that's sold around the world. Um. 24 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: And Apple, uh, and and it appears maybe there may 25 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: be a couple of other companies joining them. Has has 26 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: basically said enough enough and and they're fighting this uh, 27 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: this this big legal battle. Yeah. So walk me through 28 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: the relationship between Apple and Qualcomm. In your story you 29 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: talk about how they a little while back had a deal. Um. 30 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: But but but I guess that's that deal maybe breaking down. 31 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: So what's what's kind of ingenious or maybe, depending on 32 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: your perspective, diabolical with with Qualcom's business model? Is they 33 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: so so they do two things. One is they have 34 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: the patents and the other is they manufacture the chips 35 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: that are used in many phones. But they don't they don't. 36 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: They're not the only manufacturer of chips. They're just the 37 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: manufacturer of the best chips basically. And whether you buy 38 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: your chips from Qualcom or from one of its competitors, 39 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: you still have to pay that that royalty. And what 40 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: happened with Apple and this is Apple's contention in in 41 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: the lawsuit. Um, is that Qualcom used it's basically basic 42 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: power as a chip manufacturer to force Apple to agree 43 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: to terms that that it now says our our ownerous. 44 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: And the thing that changed is basically that Apple got 45 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 1: a second supplier. Apple convinced Intel to invest some money 46 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: to make a competing modem, which which is now in 47 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: some iPhones, but not all iPhones. And it was that, um, 48 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: that sort of buying power that allowed Apple to turn 49 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: around and and and now um, you know, start negotiating harder, 50 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: which led to this dispute. That's Max Chafkin, a reporter 51 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: for a Bloomberg Business Week, speaking with Bloomberg La host 52 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: Greg Store. And you can listen to Bloomberg Law weekdays 53 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: at one pm Wall Street Time here on Bloomberg Radio 54 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: and now. 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