1 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: Yes, because one practice. Do you think one practice pract No? 2 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: Because one practice, he says, Yo, let's just switch it. Jalen, 3 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: isn't a cone? You didn't say that. You did say that. 4 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 2: I did that. 5 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 3: Okay, so that's did you. 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: I was never a con. I'm one of the I'm 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: out a cone. I'm like one of those like you 8 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: know now like they have like the person with the 9 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: arms and my con s can't. 10 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 3: Get in my bag and all of this came. 11 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 4: Knock my love going to crazy in the stadium. 12 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: What's up everybody? And welcome back to the roommates, so 13 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 2: presented by Bett three six five with the vibes always immaculate, 14 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 2: a playmaker original. Obviously, we got my former roommate Maddie 15 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 2: Ice here, we got ab You're my dog, you know, 16 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 2: l copy tong bro, I'm not gonna violate. Today we 17 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 2: have one of the signature voices in sports media. You 18 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 2: may have seen one of her many viral interviews on 19 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 2: Taylor Rooks x or reporting on the NBA for TNT show, 20 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 2: hosts both Amazon, NFL and NBA coverages. As they make 21 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,559 Speaker 2: the NBA debut next season, we welcome two time Emmy 22 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 2: nominated Taylor Rooks to the Roommate show. 23 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 5: Wow, we talked so much to each other that I 24 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 5: don't know if I've ever heard Josh be so nice 25 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 5: and like a Spano sold thirty seconds to me, thank 26 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 5: you so much. 27 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 6: We thanks for having me. 28 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 2: Of course, I just want to let you know, you know, 29 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: because you know, putting it out there now, we talk 30 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 2: the truth on our podcast cause I know a lot 31 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 2: of people get around you and they start lying and 32 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 2: you know, doing all those kinds of things. So this 33 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 2: is a truth only podcast. 34 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 6: Okay, we'll see. 35 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 7: We're gonna have fact checkers in the comments for sure, 36 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 7: exactly fact checkers. 37 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 2: Have you lied on the Rooks Podcast? Yeah? 38 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 5: You were an excellent You were both excellent guests. 39 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,839 Speaker 1: Too politically correct, I think she we had a great 40 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: conversation where we talked about a lot of things where 41 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 1: I was uncomfortable to talk about at first, and then 42 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: I opened up. 43 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 2: Taylor was m me crying my interview when you were 44 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: talking about your dad. She must make me cry. 45 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: See, that's it. I would never because you were. 46 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 7: Talking about how you you opened up a lot on 47 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 7: the show, and I was saying, what was it about 48 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 7: Taylor's interview style that allows. 49 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: You to do that. Hmm, well, this back. I've known 50 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: her for. 51 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 6: A long time, more more than I've known you. 52 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: Actually, long of them know you, so I mean, I 53 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: don't know. She made it so easy, like she said, hey, 54 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: I want to do this, and I'm thinking you usually 55 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: got to go go to New York, go to l 56 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: A somewhere, and she came right to where I was 57 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: saying the summer. My hand was still broke at the time. 58 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: She made everything so easy. It was it was quick, 59 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: it was boom and slowly. Everything about that was easy. 60 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: And oh, it's just just like two friends sitting down talking. 61 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: It wasn't It wasn't like it didn't feel like an interview. 62 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a conversation and you opened up through time. 63 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 5: Like I think there were some topics you maybe at 64 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 5: first didn't necessarily want to discuss initially, whether it was 65 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 5: like the Mavericks or like more. 66 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 6: Tips, workload, whatever. 67 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 5: But the way we discussed it I think was from 68 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 5: a bit of a different angle that allowed you to 69 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 5: talk about it in a different way. 70 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: Plus like what you think, like, there's so many topics 71 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: that we can talk about and then run on. But 72 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: I feel like she psegged way into each question, into 73 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: the next and to the next, and it was just 74 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: it felt seamless. 75 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 6: Thank you, I appreciate that. 76 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 7: Was it last summer that you you did the show? 77 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 5: Yours was fun because we were in like Florida, Like 78 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 5: it was a nice little tree. 79 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 2: It was like the same thing with him. She was like, oh, 80 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 2: you know you want to I want to be on 81 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 2: the show, Like yeah, whatever, And then they came like 82 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: the I was in Miami. I was like, I'm not 83 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 2: going anywhere yet, but she was like they all came 84 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 2: down and it was just at the cribs. It was cool. 85 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 7: I think brought flowers for Shannon. 86 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, correctly. 87 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: It was rather right through the season. 88 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, so she just had the kids to probably, Yeah, 89 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 2: is that last summers ago I had kids? 90 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 6: It was after you all lost to the heat. 91 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 7: Oh so it was right after right after what. 92 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 2: The year? 93 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, it was last year. 94 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 2: It was two years ago, twenty three, It. 95 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: Was almost two years ago. 96 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 2: Well, it was good. It feels like it was just 97 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:41,119 Speaker 2: like last summer. 98 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 7: Well, what drew you to long form sit downs? It's 99 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 7: like your preferred form of media, Like when did you 100 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:47,559 Speaker 7: decide that was your lane? 101 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 5: I just really enjoy people like I'm a person that 102 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 5: likes meeting new people, learning about them, chatting with them, 103 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 5: And I felt like in sports it was a lot 104 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 5: of conversations that were based on what as media think, 105 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 5: which is an important element of sports media, but I 106 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 5: didn't feel like it was enough of just what did 107 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 5: the players want to say? Like sitting down for an 108 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 5: hour talking about what they want, engaging in good conversation 109 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 5: and good exchange of thought. And I started podcasting really early, 110 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 5: like back when I was at the Big ten Network, 111 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 5: and it just sort of caught on, Like people liked 112 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 5: hearing athletes be a little more unfiltered, and you can 113 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 5: only get that in the long form setting, in my opinion, 114 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 5: So I just went with it and ran with it. 115 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 2: Yes, what then about So she helped us get the 116 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 2: little Wayne tom Brady. 117 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 7: That's true that I did. 118 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, And then she she texted me before too, and 119 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 2: she was like, I forgot, I forgot what we were 120 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: talking about. I think we were just talking about like topics. 121 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: And then she like, I guess could they I think 122 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 2: Wayne did yours? 123 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 6: He did? 124 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 2: Or yeah? So she sent me like a whole I 125 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 2: had to be like fifth probably ten to like fifteen sixteen, 126 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 2: like bullet points of like talk like talking points like 127 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 2: oh wow, I appreciate that. 128 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 6: One thing about me. I'm gonna look out for my guys. 129 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 5: And it was a good interview. 130 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 6: I'm happy that y'all did it. Then you got on 131 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 6: that chopper. 132 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like a top. 133 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 7: She h hopped up the helicopter too, because. 134 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 2: Well, originally we're I wasn't kind of like a because 135 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 2: I literally flewent that was fanatics. So I flew in 136 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 2: the morning of I think or the night before, and 137 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 2: I was flying out right, you know, go back to Miami. 138 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 2: And then you know, we had that we changed the 139 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 2: schedule because we did. 140 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 5: The life Well, his reasoning was like he didn't know 141 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 5: if he'd be able to do it because he had 142 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 5: to get to Miami. 143 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 6: I said, I'll get you to Miami. 144 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 5: So we got the chopper to the airport and then 145 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 5: he was able to get in and out. Yeah, but 146 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 5: you know, you guys were the Kings in New York 147 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 5: and they're hanging out with jay Z. 148 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 6: It was a whole. 149 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, did you forget Yeah, I mean that that was 150 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 2: a cool picture. 151 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 3: That was it was a cool photo. 152 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: It was a cool picture. I feel like I'll say this, 153 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: I feel like that event will be better this year, 154 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: oh for sure. And that was that the first time 155 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: in a normal event, that whole thing was just like 156 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: it was. 157 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 2: It was wow, I will say for they did it, 158 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: for it to be their first one and with that 159 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 2: many big names and all that, and like the demand 160 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 2: they did a really good Oh yeah. 161 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 6: It was crazy. 162 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 5: And the fact that like everyone showed up that was 163 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 5: supposed to show up, because that's the biggest hurdle I. 164 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 2: Think, wasn't it like end of the summer or like 165 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: towards it was post Olympics, because like it was like 166 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 2: Edwards and it was to come. I was like, ain't 167 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: no way, ain't no way, and probably still somewhere. 168 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 5: Lighty, like everybody was there. It's crazy. 169 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 2: It was that was that was Yeah. I definitely didn't 170 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 2: need the chopper once I pushed my flight back, but 171 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: like I'm not going to say no at that point. 172 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: Never been on a. 173 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 7: Helicopter before, Like I'm not I'm not a massive helicopter. 174 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was. It was absurd. 175 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 5: But like all jokes aside, I just wanted you all 176 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 5: there because you also just should be there, like you 177 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 5: guys are a part of the New York Knicks. You 178 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 5: guys are on this large track of stardom. You need 179 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 5: to be in the rooms where there are other stars there, 180 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 5: and you're really cementing your presence there too. 181 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 6: So I'm happy that you guys did it. 182 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm happy to say that it was smith sailing 183 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 7: until I showed I showed speed, came on stage and 184 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 7: did a back club off your chair. 185 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was already just that was just absurd. 186 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I thought you should have just stayed in 187 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: the chair for it, but I ended up getting up. 188 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 2: Nah. Was the the position where where he was like 189 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 2: trying to be It was not mean, it just it 190 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 2: was just you know, I have my bubble, you know, 191 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 2: and he was trying to he was trying to. Yeah, 192 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 2: he was trying to invade my bubble. I didn't like that. So, yeah, 193 00:08:54,760 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 2: exactly invading bubbles. So you just recently did game I did, 194 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 2: which we made a little more exciting than we probably thought. 195 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 2: But how was interviewing TIBs? 196 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 6: Okay? 197 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 5: So I was going into this anticipating him not saying much, 198 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 5: because that's the whole thing with Tibbs is when you 199 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 5: do the in game interview, he's not going to talk 200 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 5: a lot. He was phenomenal pregame, had amazing things to 201 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 5: say about Jalen was talking about the team. I tried 202 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 5: to warm them up a little bit in the pregame 203 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 5: interview to know, like, Okay, I'm gonna chat with you. 204 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:30,719 Speaker 5: At the end of the first he gave me such 205 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 5: a long answer for my first question, short on the 206 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 5: second one I got to say, so I said, okay, 207 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 5: thanks for your time, and went right to it. 208 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 6: But he was good. He was good. 209 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 5: So you can't let You can't let the idea of 210 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 5: what someone's going to be like in an interview cloud 211 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 5: how you approach the interview. 212 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: So basically what you're saying is that Ti the narrative 213 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: of Tibbs is not what it seems. 214 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 6: Maybe some might say. 215 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: So the TIBs narrative is probably a little outdated, is 216 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: what you would say. 217 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 6: Yes, he was. 218 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 5: But something I think we've actually all talked about is 219 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 5: how difficult, borderline impossible, it is for people to outgrow 220 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 5: their narratives. Like, when your narrative comes, you get stuck 221 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 5: in it, and unless something major happens, people are married 222 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 5: to you being that. 223 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 6: Thing, they just don't give you much wiggle room. 224 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 5: It's why you're always energy guy, even though yes you 225 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 5: are energy guy, but you're also one of the best 226 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 5: rebounding guards in the league. You actually do stuff that 227 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 5: shows up on the statue. 228 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: Forward and yeah, but power forward. 229 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 2: I'm six four six. 230 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 3: Forward, Okay. 231 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 5: And then for you, it's like, you know, people want 232 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 5: to say you have the old man game whatever. Maybe 233 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 5: you do, but I do you also do other things. 234 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 5: And I think that the more people just talk about 235 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 5: you in that way, they miss out on the other stuff. 236 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 5: So your narrative becomes your story unless and sometimes it's 237 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 5: just hard to get to that unless. 238 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: What are you looking at me like that? No? 239 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 2: I was. I looked at your watch and I was 240 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 2: saying it feel at the right time. It is the 241 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:04,719 Speaker 2: right time, Matt. You have you have a good label. 242 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 7: Bro, what's my label? 243 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 2: I feel like you outgrew your label? 244 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 7: What's my label? 245 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 6: What was your label? 246 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 7: I don't know what was What was the tweet? The 247 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 7: someone tweeted like, how does every NBA podcast have a 248 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 7: bland white guy? 249 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 2: You outgrew your label? 250 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 6: Though, Oh he's no longer blad. 251 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 7: I just puts a picture with my wife and everyone's like. 252 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 2: Oh man, yeah, yeah, exactly native on that brother see. 253 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, hold on? Did he agree? 254 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 2: Hold on? We we did not talk about that at 255 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 2: all before you even this is our first podcast with 256 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 2: three days. Yeah, I don't realize that. Everyone. Yeah, everyone, 257 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 2: Mad had Madden, his wife Samar welcome there their first 258 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 2: into the world on the what thirteen or thirteenth, early 259 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 2: morning of the thirteenth, one am. 260 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 7: So it's crazy. Yeah, you guys both went through it. It surreal, 261 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 7: just a wild, wild process. It happened so fast. 262 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 6: Did they give you advice on being a dad? 263 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 2: No? 264 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: Not really. 265 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 2: I told him a night nurse. 266 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 3: Really do you guys have any advice? 267 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 7: What advice did you give me? 268 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: What you you? You didn't call me like a couple 269 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: of times say hey, bro, like I'm having a girl. 270 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 7: I think you said, oh that's awesome. No, you're very supportive. 271 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 7: I was like, do you have the buggaboo stroller? You're like, what, 272 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 7: I don't know, ask Ali. 273 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what stroller we have. I know 274 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: we have a stroller. I'm definitely giving you advice. Sure, 275 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: they've been very you guys have been very I give 276 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: you advice during the the process of actually going through 277 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: like the birth. 278 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 2: That's true. 279 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: I did. 280 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 2: That's true. 281 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: No, they've been great. 282 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 6: Okay, he had you, he had you. Josh was like 283 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 6: cute baby. 284 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was telling about good that baby. Good that 285 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 2: night nurse. 286 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: He did. 287 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 2: The night nurses the like that's like if you can 288 00:12:54,720 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 2: get it, the night nurse is like a must. I 289 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 2: did it once. I did one day one night. My 290 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 2: wife and I one night. 291 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 5: You were telling me about how I don't think I'm 292 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 5: confusing this story, but you all after the delivery, you 293 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 5: went to the place like near Central Park where you 294 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 5: stayed for like a few days, right, yeah, Bora. 295 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 2: And yeah them born for like ten days. 296 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, that sounds like the way to do it. 297 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it was. It was love. And then we 298 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 2: came down to Miami and we had a first night nurse. 299 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 2: We had to fire her. And then that's why she 300 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 2: was just she was doing things that was like a 301 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 2: sid risk. So we were just like, nah, we can't 302 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 2: be like, we can't have you no more. So then 303 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 2: before how did she ate that? I think she she's 304 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 2: she got caught with what she was doing and she. 305 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 6: Your first time firing. 306 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 7: Someone ask him how many night nurses they've gone there? 307 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: Oh, Night Nurses movie. He's fired a lot of people 308 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: over his career being a professional. 309 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 2: Either I fired or got fired. 310 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 7: That's this next segment is brought to you by Bett 311 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 7: three six five are presenting sponsor so this year's twenty 312 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 7: twenty five NFL Hall of Fame classes stacked. We got 313 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 7: a bunch of names up here. Who do you guys 314 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 7: think deserves to h to get into the Hall of 315 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 7: Fame from this list? 316 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 2: For sure, Eli, Toro, Suggs. Sure, I would say probably 317 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 2: Luke Keikley. 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We 337 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 7: talked about narratives. Are there any that you've had to 338 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 7: outgrow in your career? 339 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 6: Hmmm? 340 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 5: I Mean the one that I always think about is, 341 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 5: like I do know obviously, I have had different viral 342 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 5: moments in my career where people have said things that 343 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 5: are maybe a little outlandish, and I know that the 344 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 5: narrative is, oh my gosh, they get in front of 345 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 5: Taylor and they can't help themselves, and I don't agree 346 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 5: with that. I think it's because I asked a good question. 347 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 5: I think it's because I got them to think about 348 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 5: something in a way maybe they haven't yet. There's a 349 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 5: lot of people that do interviews yet when people sit 350 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 5: down with me, they talk about something that they have 351 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 5: not yet, and that is a credit to I think 352 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 5: how comfortable I may people feel, how well I listen, 353 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 5: and the way that I ask questions. I'm not saying 354 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 5: that for any person that's on television. There is an 355 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 5: entire package of what makes them a personality, obviously, but 356 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 5: it's all about how you know how to work with people. 357 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 5: So I would say that's a that's a narrative that 358 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 5: I have. It doesn't bother me, but that's for sure, 359 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 5: for sure narrative. 360 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 7: What do you want to say? 361 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, what's that face? 362 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 6: Josh? 363 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 2: I was just saying that because literally, as as soon 364 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 2: as I welcome Taylor a podcast, yeah. 365 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 6: Said who they're lying to you? 366 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, brought up that label. 367 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 5: See how hard it is to get out of your narratives. 368 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 5: But it's like, yeah, it doesn't matter that you know 369 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 5: the two I mean noms. 370 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 6: That's a host on Amazon. 371 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 5: I do both football, NFL and NBA, cover every sports, 372 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 5: sideline host anchor, I do everything, do everything. 373 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 6: But you know, she's just pretty. 374 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: It is cool. 375 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 7: I mean, we were talking about before the show started 376 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 7: how you had literally comment and on his Instagram with 377 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 7: your phone number, trying to get an interviewer, Scooper, whoever 378 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 7: it was. And now you're playing at really high level. 379 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 7: You're doing what you do at really high level. 380 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 6: Yeah. 381 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 5: Back in like either twenty twelve or twenty thirteen, I 382 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 5: was at University of Illinois covering recruiting. Don't talk about 383 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 5: my school, very highly tiled recruit here the one and 384 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 5: only Jalen Brunson, and Illinois was on his final list, 385 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:47,479 Speaker 5: although he was never going to go there, but it 386 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 5: was on his final list, and it was very clear 387 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 5: to me how much college fans cared about recruiting. I 388 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 5: was like, this can be my Niche like, I can 389 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 5: really talk to players and bring the access and bring 390 00:17:58,359 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 5: the story. 391 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 6: And La was right in Chicago. 392 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 5: So me like sophomore year, either my software or junior year, 393 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 5: I went to Jalen's photo when I commented, like, I 394 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 5: would love to interview. 395 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 6: You about recruiting. 396 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 5: I'm here at Illinois if you don't mind shooting me 397 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 5: a text, I'd love to chat with you, And he did, 398 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 5: and that's how I got to know Jalen. 399 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 6: How I got to know his parents. 400 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 5: Actually had such a nice moment with your dad Rick 401 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 5: at the game. 402 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 6: He came up to me. 403 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 5: And said, you know, I remember when you used to 404 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 5: talk to me to talk to Jalen, and now y'all 405 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 5: talk you don't even tell me. So I do want 406 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 5: to say something about narratives though this actually this is 407 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 5: about this. 408 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 6: Is about me. 409 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 5: It is so important and something that I have learned, 410 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 5: like throughout my career. How like interviews and clips and 411 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 5: all of these things like shape people's narratives and like 412 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 5: the large responsibility that is on the media when it 413 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 5: comes to the things that you decide to like clip 414 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 5: and put out. 415 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 6: It's funny. 416 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 5: When I was on the way over here, I was like, 417 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 5: oh my god, I'm late, even though it was like 418 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 5: twenty minutes, and I was thinking out the latest interview 419 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 5: I've ever had, which was Michael Beasley. He was easy 420 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 5: three hours late to the interview, but it was more 421 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 5: than worth it. 422 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 6: Like it was easily. 423 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 5: It was probably my first like real viral moment that 424 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 5: I've had in terms of an interview, and it was 425 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 5: hilarious and. 426 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 6: We both just looked really silly throughout it. 427 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 5: We're talking about this whole ten percent of our brain situation. 428 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 5: But I just learned so many things through that moment 429 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 5: because that entire interview, that was maybe ten ten minutes 430 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,719 Speaker 5: of the interview, but in and he's talking about how 431 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 5: everybody will still sometimes see him as like this pothead 432 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 5: and they don't give him room to grow out of it, 433 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 5: and that his perception is unfair. He gets like really vulnerable. 434 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 5: It's a really great interview from him in terms of 435 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 5: just his life and what he wants from it. But 436 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 5: it all became about that moment with the brain and 437 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 5: people were making those like jokes about him, even though 438 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 5: the rest of the interview is him saying like that's 439 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 5: not who I am. And it was just a lesson 440 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 5: to me about how hard those narratives are because people 441 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,719 Speaker 5: are always looking for their thought to be confirmed, and 442 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 5: so when you're putting these clips out, you want to 443 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 5: have the full breath of what somebody said so that 444 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 5: they don't get pigeon holed into this thing that is 445 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 5: just unfair, if that makes sense. 446 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 6: But shout out to Michael Beasley. 447 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 5: He's great, gave me a great interview and like one 448 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 5: of the best moments that I've probably had in terms 449 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 5: of virality. 450 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 2: He might be one of the most if for sure 451 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 2: one of if not the most talented like person with 452 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 2: a basketball I've ever seen. Just absurd. Yes, you need 453 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 2: a bucket, Like, just give them the ball and get 454 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 2: out the way. Athletic as hell. That's my dude. 455 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 6: I look, he's great. 456 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 2: That was my second year. Yeah, that's for second year, 457 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 2: your teammates. The only thing, the only thing, one of 458 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 2: the funny things I would say about him though. So 459 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 2: we're probably game, probably like thirty five forty halfway through 460 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 2: the season, we go, you know how you watch film 461 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 2: before practice, right, So we just had a game. We 462 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 2: got into the film room and then obviously we also 463 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 2: you know, calling him Bees, Mike whatever it is. And 464 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 2: then I guess someone told Luke Wall and he was coach. 465 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 2: He was like, yeah, he doesn't like, you know, being 466 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 2: called like Bees or whatever or like Mike or whatever. 467 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 2: So he was like, what do you want to be called? Like, 468 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 2: I'll just call me Paul. The middle name was Paul. 469 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 2: So like it was like halfway through the season, like 470 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 2: switch names. But when I tell you a bucket, I 471 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 2: see him every summer. We have the same Ronnie problem. 472 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 6: That's my dude, shut out Paul. 473 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 2: So this this was your second second year doing Thursday 474 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 2: Night football, thirty year thirty Yeah. 475 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 6: Third year does wrap my thirty year doing Tiana. 476 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 2: Okay, Well it wasn't always on Amazon the whole time, right. 477 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 5: No, so the first year I started doing it was 478 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 5: the first year that Amazon received it, okay, and then 479 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 5: this October will be the first year that Amazon has 480 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 5: NBA coverage, which I actually have some questions for you 481 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 5: all about that that I'm no, no, no, I just want 482 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 5: your opinions. What do you like about NBA shows and 483 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 5: what do you hate about. 484 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 2: I like to say Amazon its great. 485 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 5: No, I just as I'm thinking about, you know, me 486 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 5: and Blake Dirk were considering like what the tone of 487 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 5: this show should be like with the vibe, like what 488 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 5: the fans want, and I'm sure you all have plenty 489 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 5: thoughts about what you enjoy about the pre. 490 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 6: Half a post and what you think it shouldn't be. 491 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 2: I'm scared it should be. I don't know. 492 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: I don't I don't watch enough anymore now that like 493 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: you're kind of like in it, like not like not watching. 494 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 6: But when I asked your wheels returning, so I know 495 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 6: you have an answer, you can go first, Okay, exactly. 496 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 2: First, I was going to say, obviously, you want the honesty, 497 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 2: and obviously it would be really cool because you know, 498 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 2: both of those guys played, but not so much the 499 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 2: unfair criticism. I would say that of that, you know, 500 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 2: because sometimes you know some people going, you know, some 501 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 2: of the shows that they have shows, and you can 502 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 2: tell like they generally like don't actually watch like the NBA, 503 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 2: Like they don't watch like obviously there's eighty two games 504 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 2: regular season, however many teams, but like they don't really 505 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 2: keep up with who's doing what, you know, they just 506 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 2: they just listen to label. They know someone from several 507 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 2: years ago when they know a label and they just 508 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 2: run with that. 509 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 6: Yeah. 510 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 2: So I think it's just more like the truthful, like 511 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 2: up to date aspect of it would be, you know, 512 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 2: yeah cool. 513 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 1: I agree. I feel like they should watch more basketball. One. 514 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: I do think that while he says there's would unfair criticism, 515 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: would you say unfair criticism? I feel like criticism you 516 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: can still be very critical without being like personal. I 517 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: don't know. For me, like having my dad that kind 518 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 1: of like criticized me and pushed me, and I understood 519 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: that he was just pushing me, right. I understood at 520 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: a young age that like it's not personal. He just 521 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: wants me to be better. A lot of people didn't 522 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: have what I have, like had like a dad who 523 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: played in the league, who understood a lot about it 524 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: right know how to push me to make sure that 525 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: I knew it wasn't taking it personal like he was 526 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: being a coach, wasn't mean a dad. I feel like 527 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: in the age that we're that we are now, like 528 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: that line can get blurred, like are you being personal 529 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: or you're being critical of my game? So I think 530 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: it has to do with maybe us not being so sensitive, 531 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: but also them understanding that this is obviously a new world, 532 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: Like we're not back in the nineties two thousands, where 533 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: you can be critical and the player wouldn't really say 534 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: anything until the next time there they step in front 535 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: of the mic. Now I have players who have podcasts, 536 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: I have players who have access to just say something 537 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: right on Twitter or x or whatever, Like we can 538 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 1: say it right then and there once we see it. 539 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: And so I feel like this world is just different. 540 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: You can still be critical, we just have to adapt. 541 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 7: And it's a good point to one point. 542 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, it is a good point. 543 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 2: It's also like the perspective of it, right because like, because. 544 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 6: It's Dirk and me and Blake Dirk, and. 545 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 3: I'm about it like that's hilarious. 546 00:25:52,400 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Dirk, I'm excited to see Dirk. Derek is a 547 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: person who, if he wanted to, could just never be 548 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: seen there again, He's just like he's a very low 549 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: key person. M h whatever. I'm excited to see what 550 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: we has to say because he's one of those guys 551 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: who is also very critical. 552 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, what I was going to say to your point 553 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 5: about you don't always hear as much from Dirk, those 554 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 5: words hold so much weight. So he does speak and 555 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 5: he's such like an elite storyteller. He obviously brings in 556 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,479 Speaker 5: that euro perspective and right now the NBA is so global, 557 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 5: so I'm excited to just kind of think about holistically 558 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 5: how Dirk is going to continue to enhance the coverage 559 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 5: that we have. And then with Blake, I just did 560 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 5: an event with him at CEES and he is so 561 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 5: lively and so funny. He knows how to keep the 562 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 5: conversation going. He asks questions and to your point, just 563 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 5: what you all are saying about this sort of the 564 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 5: negativity kind of about how we talk about basketball. 565 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 6: When we were in Vegas. 566 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 5: Blake was having a conversation with somebody about a player 567 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 5: I can't remember who, and the person was talking about 568 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 5: how the player was playing terribly in that game and 569 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 5: he wants with the team, blah blah blah, And it 570 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 5: was a simple thing. But Blake just goes, well, he's 571 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 5: coming off of a back to back and he continues 572 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 5: to explain that. And though that was like such a 573 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 5: small piece of context he provided, it's also like an 574 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 5: important one that I think is sometimes missing when people 575 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 5: talk about basketball. 576 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 6: So the way that. 577 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 5: Blake is approaching these NBA conversations, it's truly like an 578 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 5: NBA player as opposed to somebody who is watching a 579 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 5: game in a silo, seeing maybe you had just a 580 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 5: bad outing and letting that bad outing be the story 581 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 5: that we're going to tell about you on the show. 582 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 5: So I believe and know that those guys I mean, 583 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 5: would do a really good job of telling the story 584 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 5: of the game in a way that is fair but 585 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,959 Speaker 5: also actually indicative of the players and what's what's going on. 586 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 5: That doesn't mean we won't criticize, for sure. That doesn't 587 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 5: mean I want to say, how did y'all? I'mus louseid 588 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 5: in net Dyalen. 589 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: But yes, dog shit the entire night. 590 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 5: But that for you turn it on though, But I'm excited. 591 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 5: But that's good perspective. 592 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 6: Thank you, thank you all for for telling me that. 593 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't wait to see what stories Dirk has 594 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: to say. Yeah, Derek has a lot of stories. 595 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 2: A lot of stories. 596 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: Probably a lot more he can say off air, but 597 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: a lot of stories, a lot of stories. 598 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 7: I know you probably can't share too much about like 599 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 7: the look and feel of the show, but when something 600 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,959 Speaker 7: like this comes to life, obviously you find out you 601 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 7: get the job. How much of a role do you 602 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 7: get to play in the creative and the tone and 603 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 7: like what does it look like bringing the show to life? 604 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, I get to play a large role. 605 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 5: Like when we were talking about what this looked like, 606 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 5: Blake and Dirk were two people that I really wanted 607 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 5: to be a part of it. And the cool thing 608 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 5: about Amazon is we seriously get to build something from 609 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 5: the ground up, so there's no like rule book for this. 610 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 5: What do we want the show to look like? What 611 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 5: do we want the set to look like? How do 612 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 5: we want the tone and the vibe? And like what 613 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 5: are going to be our you know, our segments that 614 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 5: always exist. How will people get to know Blake and 615 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 5: Dirk better? How will we take advantage the fact that 616 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 5: we're in LA and we can have guests pop in 617 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 5: all the time, the fact yeah, or the fact that 618 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 5: we are on a streamer, which obviously gives so many advantages. 619 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 5: But through that post game, it's not like we have 620 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 5: to get off air for anything. We can have like 621 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 5: a late night type post game. It can be fun, 622 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 5: it can be different. So we're just trying to think 623 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 5: of all the ways to better serve the fan and 624 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 5: also play into like the talents of the talent. 625 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 6: Blake is funny. 626 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 5: How can we continue to give him segments that show 627 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 5: that he's also a genuine entertainer, he's a producer, he's 628 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 5: all of these things. So we get to really craft this, 629 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 5: I think in our vision and what the fans want, 630 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 5: and continuing to get this feedback is also really helpful 631 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,719 Speaker 5: because we also don't think we know everything, you know, 632 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 5: we want to better understand what what the audience wants 633 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 5: and what the market wants. 634 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 7: I did even think about, like the fact that there's 635 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 7: no time limitation. It's crazy because WW had said something 636 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 7: similar they're like now they're on Netflix. It could be 637 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 7: an hour, be four hours, doesn't matter, as long as 638 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 7: we wanted to be. 639 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 6: You can have as much fun as you want. 640 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, And of course, you know, I was a part 641 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 5: of Thursday Night Football, so I know that Amazon goes 642 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 5: big with everything, like they want everything to be as 643 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 5: perfect as possible seen by as many people, but also 644 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 5: just different, Like we have so much technology from like AI, 645 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 5: there's going to be really fun ways to tell stories 646 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 5: that we haven't done yet. 647 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 6: So it's a life changing job for me. 648 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 5: Like I really feel like a dream has come true 649 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 5: that I get to cover both NFL and NBA when 650 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 5: I'm doing interviews, when I'm hosting. 651 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 6: So I'm just excited. 652 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, I have to relocate to La. Are you going 653 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 7: to go back and forth? 654 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 6: Yes? 655 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 5: La girls La, But I own in New York, so 656 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 5: like I'll always feel like a little piece of me 657 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 5: as in New York. 658 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think my favorite thing about like 659 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 2: Taylor's Thursday Night Football like throughout the season is once 660 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 2: our season started, they sort of have like a Thursday 661 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 2: Night football game. She'll be you know, wherever it is 662 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 2: on Tuesday Wednesday night. She's out there court side, watch 663 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 2: whatever game yeap court yeah, big. 664 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: T I'm trying to think we were just talking about 665 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: that she was somewhere to court side, and then she 666 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: was all on TV. We were just talking about somewhere. 667 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 2: There was a couple of times. Yeah, let's see how 668 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 2: many how many times? 669 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 6: Hey, I wore white tad like go, I'm there, but 670 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 6: all jok side. 671 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 5: I'm like, I feel like I get to live a 672 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 5: dream every single day, and so I take advantage of 673 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 5: that dream. Like if I can go to a game, 674 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 5: bug somebody for tickets and I get to get my tickets, 675 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go. If I can like hop on a plane, 676 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 5: Oh I'm sorry, it must have been Mike. If I 677 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 5: can hop on a plane and like go see my 678 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 5: friend show, I'm gonna go do that. 679 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 6: Like if I have time to do it, I want 680 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 6: to do it. 681 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 5: Like we get to live a life that is just 682 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 5: so fun, and I never take that for granted. 683 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 2: November twentieth, I respond to her story, COURTSI te a 684 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 2: game the next day, Wednesday night game, Wednesday night game. 685 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 2: Who you'd hate to see her coming? 686 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: Real or Rumors is brought to you by Body Armor, 687 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: Sports Drink Nothing is more real than the inside perspective 688 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: you get here on the room mid show. 689 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 7: So for our first topic, minutes police, we've had tims 690 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 7: all that, why are you laughing? 691 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 2: I had When you hear minutes police, it was like, alright, 692 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 2: we are you Yeah? 693 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, Well obviously we had tips on the show last 694 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 7: season and still the number one roomer around the Knicks 695 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 7: is that you guys are tired and you play too 696 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 7: many minutes. How do you respond to these things? 697 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: Should we tell them? What tips? This week? 698 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 2: Josh? 699 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, my first ever blackout day. No one was 700 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: allowed in the office and the gym nothing today, and. 701 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 2: Then it was today. 702 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: Today was a get what you need day, come in 703 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: and get your treatment, shoot lift if you guys want. 704 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 7: But did you find another gym? 705 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: No? I actually took the day the gym. I took 706 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: the day off. 707 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 7: Breath breaking narrative. 708 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: Okay, yes, I have my routines stuff, but I know 709 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: when I'm like, all right, I need a day, I 710 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: got my routines. 711 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 2: There you go. 712 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: When we have an off day, it's not black o day. 713 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: Josh is not touching the gym. 714 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 2: That's a fact. If I play forty, that means I'm 715 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 2: playing like I'm playing forty I'm running through screens, I'm rebounding. 716 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 2: Once I get the rebound, I run like a bat 717 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 2: out of hell. I need my rest and then I 718 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 2: know I gotta wake up at seven forty five to 719 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 2: take my kids to school or day care, whatever you 720 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 2: want to call it. I'm telling that day off day. 721 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 5: No, sir, are you all annoyed by this question? Genuinely, 722 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 5: not this specific question, but these questions about chips in 723 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 5: the workload. 724 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 2: If you ask any NBA player or any basketball player, 725 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 2: any athlete in general, like most of the time, like 726 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 2: they will at do you hate being taken out the game? 727 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 2: Most of time they're going to say yes, I don't 728 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 2: want to go out the game. So it's like for 729 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 2: us just the same thing even now, Like I'll play. 730 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 2: There was a couple of times I played, uh, you 731 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 2: know forty you know, forty minutes. I think the playoff game, 732 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 2: I played forty eight forty eight. Then the next game, 733 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 2: I think I played forty four, and then I got 734 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 2: a sub. When I and I looked, I was like 735 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 2: said me, so you getting me? And I was heated. 736 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, for what? So like we want to 737 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 2: play like every second of the game. So how do 738 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 2: we do? I don't. I don't. I don't complain about it. 739 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: I mean if I'm if I say, oh, Tip's like 740 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: any one, I'll like anyone. But like you said, I 741 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: don't want to come out the game. There are times 742 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: are I feel like tired in the moment, like I'm 743 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: like a little winded maybe, but like I'm not like this. 744 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:02,800 Speaker 1: This is what you train for, this is what you 745 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: work for. This is like the opportunity that you've dreamed 746 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: of your entire life. Yeah, real hydration, real ingredients, pack 747 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:13,479 Speaker 1: with electrolytes, vitamins, and nothing artificial. Body Armor Sports Drink 748 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: is always keeping us hydrated with great tasting flavors like 749 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: strawberry banana. Get yours today at Amazon or a local 750 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 1: grocery store near to you. 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Obviously there's new pieces, 805 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 7: like where do they stand relative to maybe where you 806 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 7: thought they would. 807 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, obviously you all are still working on 808 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 5: some chemistry things andingtond and Sies. We talked about this 809 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 5: a little bit, but I feel like you guys are 810 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,879 Speaker 5: better than I thought you'd be at this point. I mean, 811 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 5: it's a different team. When I was talking to Tips 812 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 5: about this, it's really like you're integrating three new starters 813 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 5: with OG two Kat of course, mikel and you all 814 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 5: look really good. I think Kat is probably better than 815 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,839 Speaker 5: people thought he was going to be right now. He's 816 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,399 Speaker 5: having an MVP type of season and he's a much 817 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,839 Speaker 5: different player than like a Hartenstein or Robinson. So it 818 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 5: was just what is this going to look like? And 819 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 5: I've been very pleasantly surprised by how good you are. 820 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 5: And I think that there's so many things that can 821 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 5: be better. We talked about this, Michel can be opened 822 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 5: up offensively even more. 823 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 6: You could even tell him that game that I was 824 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 6: at for Kat, he. 825 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 5: Wasn't able to shoot like he normally does, and he's 826 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 5: just going to continue to get better and better. So 827 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 5: I think y'all look good. I don't know how I 828 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 5: felt about the trade initially. I'm not gonna lie, but 829 00:38:55,760 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 5: I'm I'm on board. 830 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 2: Say it's funny because I think it was, like, you know, 831 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 2: we haven't had like a good spell for like the 832 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 2: last like week and a half, but I think it 833 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 2: was like one point we were like twenty five and 834 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 2: ten and I think as of right now, I think 835 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 2: we probably have like the fifth best record in the 836 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 2: league or like some like fourth best record league something 837 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 2: like that. And obviously I'm on social media, like just 838 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 2: chilling at the house and all that, like sometimes like 839 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 2: it really doesn't feel like it like we're like, oh, 840 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 2: we almost have thirty wins. I think, you know, we 841 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 2: were on pace to have like like fifty one fifty two. 842 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,839 Speaker 2: Last year we had fifty, and it's like at one 843 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 2: point I was like, dang we I was like it 844 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 2: was after a loss. I'm like I'm like, dang, we 845 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 2: still like we we almost got thirty wins, like we're 846 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,280 Speaker 2: like twenty nine or sixteen, Like we have a good record. 847 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, And you would never think that a team that 848 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 5: was going to have to try to gel differently in 849 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 5: so many ways would be good right now in the 850 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 5: ways that you all are did y'all if you're being honest, 851 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 5: you can be honest now because you're good. 852 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 6: Did you think you would be right now? 853 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? 854 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so it's good. 855 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 1: I think we would be at I think we're good. 856 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 1: I don't think you yeah, I think how you think 857 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 1: we're good. I don't think we're there yet. 858 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 5: I mean this good just in terms of your record understanding, 859 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:17,720 Speaker 5: I thought. 860 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 1: It would be good. 861 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I feel like both of us can probably 862 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 2: sit there and be like their's like we're I don't 863 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 2: want to say we're happy because I don't want to 864 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 2: make it seem like we're content, Like I think we're 865 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,360 Speaker 2: like plead with where we are. But I think we 866 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 2: like we're looking. I think we had like sixteen losses. 867 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 2: I think we can literally look at five or sixe 868 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,319 Speaker 2: and but like we should have won those like those 869 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 2: were like very easily winnable games that we didn't execute. 870 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 2: But I think that mentality. 871 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:48,240 Speaker 8: Is like like it's it's positive because it's like, Okay, 872 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 8: we we let some slip away, we're still really good 873 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 8: and we just have to continue to build off of it. 874 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:58,360 Speaker 5: Because i'd also ask, you know, since we're doing really rumors, 875 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,800 Speaker 5: you all, of course you beat the teams you're supposed to, 876 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 5: but it's like, you know, it's beating the teams that 877 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 5: people maybe think you're not supposed to beat. 878 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 1: That's why I might Yeah, yeah, I feel like we're good, 879 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 1: like I record size that, but I feel like we're 880 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,720 Speaker 1: not where we want to be at, which is perfectly 881 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:17,800 Speaker 1: fine it's January. 882 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, But does it feel like all those things are 883 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 5: fixed through chemistry, like through the playing together, through understanding 884 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:24,280 Speaker 5: each other more? 885 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, And I think it's just you have 886 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 2: to go through it. I think that's the biggest thing. 887 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 2: And there's always like two ways to look at it, right, 888 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,359 Speaker 2: Like we can sit there and be like, Okay, I mean, 889 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 2: I'm not sure how many games we have. You know, 890 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,280 Speaker 2: we've played against like the top three or four teams 891 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,360 Speaker 2: in the league. But let's say we were undefeated or 892 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 2: we were like five and oh, six and oh or 893 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,319 Speaker 2: something like that. Like sometimes we can see that and 894 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 2: be like, oh, we're like we're there, like we're good, 895 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 2: and then you you kind of like start just banking 896 00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:00,120 Speaker 2: on that, like you know something, you know, there's some 897 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 2: game that we should have won, some games that we 898 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 2: you know, that we struggled with. So it's like, Okay, 899 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 2: we've handled lot of business against the other teams. We 900 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 2: got to continue to get better and we got to 901 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 2: continue to work. So I think it's I'm not mad 902 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,319 Speaker 2: about it because it changes that mentality that you have 903 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 2: to have. It's like we're not there yet, where you know, 904 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 2: you know, conversely, we could sit there and be like, 905 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 2: oh we we had a great record. Oh we're going 906 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 2: we're contender the word this, word that, And then sometimes 907 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 2: that causes you to be complacent. 908 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,879 Speaker 7: For sure, I know you both said you're not there yet, 909 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 7: Like very specifically, what do you feel like are the 910 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,319 Speaker 7: tweaks that you guys need to make to get there? 911 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 7: Like what's keeping you from being contented right now? 912 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 2: It's not the playoffs? 913 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: Sorry, I feel like truly, I feel like it's just 914 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 1: we're too much of a roller coast right now. Like 915 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 1: if these great games, we look great, and if games 916 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 1: that were just like like what the hell was that? 917 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,719 Speaker 1: So like I feel like we're still trending in the 918 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 1: right direction, like we're still going moving up, but like 919 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,840 Speaker 1: it's highs and lows, highs and lows, and we're still 920 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 1: going in the right way. But I'm just like, if 921 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,799 Speaker 1: you could just be more consistent, that'll make me feel 922 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 1: feel better and make us feel better. But like I said, 923 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 1: I'm happy where we're at, not because. 924 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 5: Like it's like I have to I got to let 925 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 5: out a gripe here with what you just said. 926 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 6: And Matt coming back on this, I feel when athletes 927 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 6: talk about consistency, Okay, listen, I get it. Obviously you 928 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 6: want to be consistent. You want to be good all 929 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 6: the time. 930 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 5: But he's saying, like what element has to be more consistent? 931 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 5: Consistency is like the easy thing to just we know 932 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:49,760 Speaker 5: you want to be consistent. 933 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 1: No, I'll say this, I don't think it's like like 934 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 1: basketball to making mis misleague right. Obviously, we want to 935 00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 1: make shots, right. Obviously there's excellent o's that we can 936 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,360 Speaker 1: do right to make our team better, right, But I 937 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 1: think more than anything, it's just our mind, Like we 938 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,320 Speaker 1: got to come like we have to have the mental 939 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 1: like preparation and mentality of being ready to go every 940 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,239 Speaker 1: single day that this ship is not a cakewalk. So like, 941 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,319 Speaker 1: yeah I was, I guess I was being around a bush, 942 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,799 Speaker 1: but like mentally, like I don't care what the hell 943 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,799 Speaker 1: you do on when this game day you're you're locked in, right, 944 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 1: there's no all the the stuff that he's been talking about. 945 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 1: It is like if we gotta have our egos outside 946 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 1: out the door and do all that all that, Like 947 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 1: I agree, like when it's game day, when no matter 948 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,280 Speaker 1: what is going on, like you're here and you're locked in, right, 949 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 1: locked in every single day, I don't I don't care 950 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 1: what the house you do off the court, right, I 951 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 1: don't care what you do off the court, Like he 952 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 1: doesn't like our routines are different, right, I well, I 953 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,399 Speaker 1: know I work harder than him in different ways, right, Right, 954 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,839 Speaker 1: He's a he works hard on restling recovery. I work 955 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,319 Speaker 1: hard on the court. It's just but he needs that. 956 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,759 Speaker 1: But like whatever it takes for you to be ready 957 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 1: to go every single day right on game day, that's 958 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 1: what we need, right. I think the best teams know 959 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 1: what what they're capable of right, they know what they 960 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:06,840 Speaker 1: have to do to make sure that they're ready on 961 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 1: game day. I feel like that's just what we need. 962 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:14,920 Speaker 2: And I think to Eccho on that, right, I think 963 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 2: part of the reason why Boston won last year because literally, 964 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,719 Speaker 2: I don't say that on the outside looking in, right 965 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 2: inside it could be totally different, but the outside looking in, 966 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,920 Speaker 2: it looked like they were just they was out there. 967 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 2: They didn't care who scored, they didn't care who did what, 968 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 2: they didn't care about. They were just like, we're all 969 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,879 Speaker 2: going to go out here and whatever it takes to win, 970 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,880 Speaker 2: we're gonna win. I think Jaylen Brown says something like, 971 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,319 Speaker 2: you know, if you know a couple guys aren't playing whatever, 972 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 2: Like we're like running place of Peyton Pritchard and like 973 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 2: making sure Payton Pritcher is hooping. And it's like, you know, 974 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 2: in the playoffs, like he didn't really get that much burned. 975 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,400 Speaker 2: He had, you know, a couple of big moments. We 976 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,399 Speaker 2: had half court shots and stuff like that, but it's 977 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 2: like that mentality of like, you know, some days it's 978 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 2: going to be my game, some days it's not going 979 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 2: to be my game. I could score thirty one game, 980 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 2: the next game, I can score four. But it's like, 981 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 2: as long as that and that that that win column 982 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,400 Speaker 2: is a W and that's checked, you know, that's all 983 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 2: that matters. And I think that's like sometimes that's the hardest, 984 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,319 Speaker 2: you know part, you know, to to to give the 985 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 2: new roster, Yeah, to know, because you know it always 986 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:32,920 Speaker 2: winning takes sacrifice. And when you say like sacrifice, no, 987 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 2: everyone's sacrifice isn't the same, right, you know what I mean. 988 00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:41,320 Speaker 2: So it's like, if you're the top dog in a 989 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,359 Speaker 2: totem pole, your sacrifice isn't going to be as much 990 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:48,840 Speaker 2: as the fourteenth guy. Fourteenth guy, his sacrifice is like 991 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 2: I'm I know, I'm not gonna play at all. Like 992 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 2: I have to make sure in practice I get these 993 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 2: guys ready. 994 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,120 Speaker 6: They're different sacrifices, and I. 995 00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,200 Speaker 2: Gotta work to make sure when my you know, if 996 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,239 Speaker 2: or when my name was called, I'm ready, that's his sacrifice. 997 00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:04,799 Speaker 2: The top guys sacrifice might be. 998 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,239 Speaker 5: It might be I'm not going to be the best 999 00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,640 Speaker 5: score today. The top guy sacrifice might be I'm not 1000 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,800 Speaker 5: going to win finals MVP, but we won the finals exactly. 1001 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's I think that's the biggest thing because 1002 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,480 Speaker 2: obviously everyone says you have to sacrifice, but not all 1003 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,520 Speaker 2: sacrifices the same, and like you have to understand that, 1004 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,319 Speaker 2: and obviously it takes a while to know that, but 1005 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,439 Speaker 2: you know, I think that's like the beauty of when 1006 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,360 Speaker 2: you find it. You have teams like the Celtics, you 1007 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,280 Speaker 2: go on and win, Yeah, and their best player didn't 1008 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:41,239 Speaker 2: even win finals MVP, and he was and he didn't care. 1009 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,439 Speaker 2: He was he was out there partying as hard as everyone. Yeah. 1010 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:51,080 Speaker 2: Drew Holliday, who I love, like to like multiple yeah 1011 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 2: several times. But like he's he can literally go out 1012 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,440 Speaker 2: there and just look look at the roster and say 1013 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:02,040 Speaker 2: they don't need me and he and he'll be completely 1014 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,840 Speaker 2: content scoring two points and just locking up. 1015 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,680 Speaker 1: Can I say something though, Well, I agree with you. 1016 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 1: I feel like what years doing, like thirteen fourteen, it 1017 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,200 Speaker 1: takes time, So it takes time. It takes time, and 1018 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:21,160 Speaker 1: he obviously has the IQ for that exactly. Sometimes like 1019 00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 1: it's just like if you're not there, like maturity wise mentally, 1020 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,440 Speaker 1: like you just I don't know. 1021 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 2: And that's what a lot of younger guys I don't 1022 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:35,120 Speaker 2: because there's so much more they're trying to they're trying 1023 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 2: to be established, they're trying to get a contract more 1024 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:43,480 Speaker 2: Drew for an example, established guy has good, great, great, 1025 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,760 Speaker 2: great contract, he's good champion already ones with the Bucks 1026 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,160 Speaker 2: gold medalists, so obviously like it's it's a little bit 1027 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,919 Speaker 2: different for him. But I think that's what makes a team, 1028 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:59,480 Speaker 2: you know, very special. And you know when a dynasties 1029 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,880 Speaker 2: really start when everyone realizes that at a young age 1030 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,839 Speaker 2: and they're all able to continue to grow and you're 1031 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,319 Speaker 2: able to keep a group like that together for three, 1032 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:08,960 Speaker 2: four or five plus years. 1033 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 1: So before we go into fishing, me scrolling, like, I 1034 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,319 Speaker 1: just want to touch them. One. I just saw something 1035 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:19,279 Speaker 1: recently about our boy Eric Pascal talking about how it 1036 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,879 Speaker 1: was hard to play with Steph right, and he said 1037 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:23,520 Speaker 1: something that I don't think a lot of a lot 1038 00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,040 Speaker 1: of people just like skimmed over it. He says, I 1039 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:30,399 Speaker 1: wasn't there, like mindset wise to do what they asked 1040 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,880 Speaker 1: me to do in that moment, like in that timeframe, 1041 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 1: because remember the year, like they weren't good, that everyone 1042 00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:40,440 Speaker 1: workingping Eric, and then now Steph comes back, all these 1043 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,880 Speaker 1: guys comes back. He's like it needs to play this 1044 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,680 Speaker 1: and he's just like for me to like switch my 1045 00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,439 Speaker 1: whole game up, like I wasn't really I wasn't there 1046 00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,600 Speaker 1: for that. I wasn't in that mindset to do that. 1047 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's so mach sure because it's also like it's 1048 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:58,760 Speaker 5: hard to like recognize ego and pride, and like ego 1049 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,040 Speaker 5: and pride runs a lot of your life until you 1050 00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,919 Speaker 5: realize it, until you mature, because like it is, it's 1051 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:05,879 Speaker 5: less about being able to switch up your game. It's 1052 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,240 Speaker 5: like can you switch up your mind? Can you switch 1053 00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,399 Speaker 5: up how you're going to be seen for a little bit? 1054 00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:12,280 Speaker 5: And that's hard for people. 1055 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,600 Speaker 1: It's I just think that it's it's cool to see 1056 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,719 Speaker 1: him say something like that, now see and to hear that, 1057 00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:23,560 Speaker 1: But like at the quicker you get it like in 1058 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,719 Speaker 1: this league that the quicker you're willing to accept the role. 1059 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,719 Speaker 1: You'd never know what can be down down the road 1060 00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,520 Speaker 1: for you. Like to be honest, I didn't think I 1061 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,800 Speaker 1: would be in Like I worked hard to be my 1062 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:36,799 Speaker 1: mind to be in this position, but I didn't think 1063 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,200 Speaker 1: I would be in this position. Like I was like, 1064 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,439 Speaker 1: all right, I could pay the leave for a long 1065 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:44,040 Speaker 1: time right back up, Luke of my entire career. That's 1066 00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,359 Speaker 1: That's what I'm thinking, right, and then you just accept it, 1067 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,719 Speaker 1: you keep building your game, and all of a sudden 1068 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,359 Speaker 1: you're in a whole different like a whole different role. 1069 00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,000 Speaker 2: I think that's and I'll be late with a point black. 1070 00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,560 Speaker 2: I don't the biggest word, like, once you accept it, 1071 00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,239 Speaker 2: like I would say, like even me, like we talked 1072 00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,239 Speaker 2: about Drew and all that, Like this is my eighth 1073 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 2: year in the league. This is like the first year 1074 00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,600 Speaker 2: where I came in. I was just like, like, my 1075 00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,360 Speaker 2: role is not to score. My role is not to 1076 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,280 Speaker 2: do you know, this, this and this, Like I'm supposed 1077 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 2: to be here to like make sure these guys are good. 1078 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,480 Speaker 2: Like I've said it several times, like I'm a servant 1079 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:23,239 Speaker 2: right now to like to these guys clan, I'm on 1080 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,759 Speaker 2: the court, I'm a servant for y'all. You know, my 1081 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:31,200 Speaker 2: role is to make sure Jalen cat you know, Michael 1082 00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 2: Jalen make sure they're good and whoever else. But ironically, 1083 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,760 Speaker 2: I'm having, you know, probably like a career, my best career, 1084 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,399 Speaker 2: you know, year of my career. So I think there's 1085 00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:47,520 Speaker 2: like a beauty to accepting that. And once you accept it, 1086 00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,560 Speaker 2: so many more things opened up that you have no 1087 00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,600 Speaker 2: idea that that you don't even see. Those doors are 1088 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,920 Speaker 2: just block You're like a horse with what blind is on. 1089 00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,640 Speaker 2: But once you accept, you start seeing everything else and 1090 00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,600 Speaker 2: then it's like, okay, I know what I'm supposed to 1091 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:02,040 Speaker 2: be doing. 1092 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,360 Speaker 5: Because like sometimes without realizing it, your goals and once 1093 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,400 Speaker 5: can be limits because you can only think about what 1094 00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,359 Speaker 5: you can see exactly, you know, Like I even think 1095 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,160 Speaker 5: about when I was first starting, my whole thing was, oh, 1096 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:14,920 Speaker 5: I want to have a show one day, like my goals, 1097 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:16,879 Speaker 5: I want to have a show. But then I got 1098 00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,440 Speaker 5: a show and it was like, well I can do 1099 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:23,080 Speaker 5: more than just that. But like if you sometimes we 1100 00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,560 Speaker 5: just like don't even realize that even though we think 1101 00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,399 Speaker 5: we're thinking as highly of ourselves as possible, we can't 1102 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,960 Speaker 5: even see what's out there for us. And that's probably 1103 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,920 Speaker 5: what you're describing now as well. 1104 00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 1: Sorry I know that said last thing, but I gotta 1105 00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,960 Speaker 1: give him produss Like he's talking about how having his 1106 00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,560 Speaker 1: career year, like him accepting a role. But I also 1107 00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:45,279 Speaker 1: believe that he changed. 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Did fashion 1192 00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:43,719 Speaker 5: statement from him? 1193 00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:43,959 Speaker 6: There? 1194 00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:45,959 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1195 00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:46,600 Speaker 1: Excuse me? 1196 00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:49,480 Speaker 5: Wait what he had a watch on his wrist and 1197 00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,479 Speaker 5: on his ankle like over the stock was a watch? 1198 00:56:53,400 --> 00:57:12,200 Speaker 2: The risk? This was wow? I wonder if did you 1199 00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,360 Speaker 2: have to get an extra link in that it was 1200 00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:14,880 Speaker 2: a strap? 1201 00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:17,000 Speaker 7: That's insane? 1202 00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,280 Speaker 2: Great watch changed I. 1203 00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:26,200 Speaker 5: Was finding a new balance. That's true, Like I love 1204 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,200 Speaker 5: that moment, like this was. 1205 00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:30,760 Speaker 6: It was crazy. 1206 00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,680 Speaker 5: I remember I kind of opened my app. Everyone was like, 1207 00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,600 Speaker 5: what is going on with this interview? And it was 1208 00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,640 Speaker 5: all because I waited the three hours. So I was like, 1209 00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:40,720 Speaker 5: I don't care. I don't care if someone is late, 1210 00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:41,320 Speaker 5: I will wait. 1211 00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,000 Speaker 6: I don't care how long I have to wait. Is 1212 00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:45,600 Speaker 6: that el de barge. 1213 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:52,960 Speaker 7: On the left. For those listening on Spotify, we have 1214 00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:57,120 Speaker 7: Josh in a postgame interview, Curls going crazy. 1215 00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:58,480 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. 1216 00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:03,840 Speaker 7: And then we have Underdog NBA saying that, actually, I'll 1217 00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:04,680 Speaker 7: let you take this one. 1218 00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:10,160 Speaker 2: Because okay, so this was this was on the second half, 1219 00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,200 Speaker 2: second day of a back to back. I open Twitter 1220 00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:17,560 Speaker 2: and I just see, you know, Josh Hart parentheses neck 1221 00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:22,280 Speaker 2: listen probable and I was just like My immediate reaction 1222 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,000 Speaker 2: was like I beg your pardon. So I tweeted that 1223 00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:28,720 Speaker 2: it just sounded crazy like Josh Hart neck probable, Like noah, don't. 1224 00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:29,320 Speaker 1: I'm a man? 1225 00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:33,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, yeah, I got, I got, And that's all 1226 00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:34,200 Speaker 2: I know. 1227 00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:39,720 Speaker 1: This was this is sudding our CFB chat calls football Chat. 1228 00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,960 Speaker 1: Actually wait, I probably shouldn't. 1229 00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:44,800 Speaker 2: About to say I'm not. I'm not sure. 1230 00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:48,600 Speaker 3: I was just like the chat. 1231 00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:52,680 Speaker 5: We need to by the way, we need to bring 1232 00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:54,720 Speaker 5: up the fun and the fantasy football chat. 1233 00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:56,880 Speaker 6: I need some people to like talk a little more. 1234 00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:00,240 Speaker 2: S Yeah, bro, so I know we have like I 1235 00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,280 Speaker 2: have a fantasy football. You don't play fantas. 1236 00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:05,600 Speaker 1: Was too much for me. 1237 00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, the bayan was a little I gotta go up 1238 00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:09,120 Speaker 2: a little bit next year. 1239 00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, it's gonna be a cab. 1240 00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:16,640 Speaker 2: You got the Amazon. But yeah, now we're. 1241 00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:19,840 Speaker 6: Was it wasn't that outrageous? 1242 00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:23,120 Speaker 2: No, no, it was cool. Definitely, Like the banter has 1243 00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:24,840 Speaker 2: to be for sure, it has to be picked up. 1244 00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,040 Speaker 2: But I'm still mad because I've still yet to win 1245 00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:29,880 Speaker 2: my own league. 1246 00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,400 Speaker 6: I lost in the playoffs this year. Not fun. You 1247 00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:33,160 Speaker 6: made playoffs too. 1248 00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I had an upset. I had. I had a 1249 00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,560 Speaker 2: good upset. I think I made it to like the 1250 00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:40,600 Speaker 2: I was like the last person to get in. I 1251 00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:42,080 Speaker 2: was like that eight. But then I got to like 1252 00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:43,200 Speaker 2: the semifinals. 1253 00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll be back, We'll be back. 1254 00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, you guys gon do a couple of fan questions 1255 00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:50,640 Speaker 7: and then yeah, I just got to head out so 1256 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,440 Speaker 7: that people submit. He's on social obviously, and anything and 1257 00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:58,000 Speaker 7: they jump in so jasmine three h Hi, I'm a 1258 00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,280 Speaker 7: huge fan. What advice would you give to someone wants 1259 01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,560 Speaker 7: to start their career in sports journalism and grow towards 1260 01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:03,160 Speaker 7: your position. 1261 01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:07,040 Speaker 6: Well, first off, that's very nice, thank you for being 1262 01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,880 Speaker 6: a fan. I mean, I don't know. 1263 01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,840 Speaker 5: It's so many different things, Like I feel like the 1264 01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:14,680 Speaker 5: biggest is you have to be yourself and you have 1265 01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:18,320 Speaker 5: to know like what makes you special and also try everything, 1266 01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,120 Speaker 5: like sideline reporting is the same as hosting. Hosting is 1267 01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,720 Speaker 5: not the same as angering angry and same is just 1268 01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:26,200 Speaker 5: isn't just the same as just general reporting, Like what 1269 01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:26,920 Speaker 5: are you good at? 1270 01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,280 Speaker 6: What are you bad at? Do different trial and error. 1271 01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,240 Speaker 5: But I feel like my entire career just opened up 1272 01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,800 Speaker 5: when I decided to be myself. Like for a long time, 1273 01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,960 Speaker 5: you think that you have to act like a journalist, 1274 01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,480 Speaker 5: like that's sort of what they preach to you in 1275 01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,240 Speaker 5: school that it's very straight up and down. But every 1276 01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:45,560 Speaker 5: personality that we like, it's like there's something about them 1277 01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:48,120 Speaker 5: that's relatable or we just enjoy listening to them. 1278 01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:48,720 Speaker 6: They're funny. 1279 01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,760 Speaker 5: All those things you do have to lead with the 1280 01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:55,000 Speaker 5: knowledge and the personality so you don't want to try 1281 01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:56,640 Speaker 5: to be like anyone else, Like being. 1282 01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:58,680 Speaker 6: You is what makes you succeed in the business. 1283 01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:02,760 Speaker 5: Also, i'd say relationship are key, Like so much of 1284 01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:06,400 Speaker 5: my early career was just built off relationships, you know, 1285 01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,480 Speaker 5: having a really good you know, reputation, people wanting to 1286 01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,680 Speaker 5: work with you, all of that is really key as well. 1287 01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:14,240 Speaker 2: Well. The best one What was the worst interview slot 1288 01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:18,320 Speaker 2: slip up ooh made on OOH? I want to know that, Cliff, 1289 01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,479 Speaker 2: What was the worst interview slip up you made on air? 1290 01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:27,400 Speaker 6: And now I paused. I know I've made mistakes, Like 1291 01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:28,480 Speaker 6: I know I made mistakes on air. 1292 01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:30,600 Speaker 5: There's nothing that I'm like that's coming right to my 1293 01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:32,760 Speaker 5: head that it was so bad. 1294 01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:41,200 Speaker 6: You know what, when I was at S and Y. 1295 01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,880 Speaker 5: There was I was doing a hockey highlight and I 1296 01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:44,920 Speaker 5: didn't know that much about hockey and I was going 1297 01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,800 Speaker 5: through it quickly and I think I I accidentally said 1298 01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:54,520 Speaker 5: Mark instead of Mark Messier and wow, terrible, But it 1299 01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:56,600 Speaker 5: was you don't want to mispronounce someone's name and he's 1300 01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:57,320 Speaker 5: like a legend. 1301 01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:01,760 Speaker 3: That's that's kind of yeah. 1302 01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:08,320 Speaker 2: But I'm saying it because like in context that it's 1303 01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:08,920 Speaker 2: not terrible. 1304 01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:12,240 Speaker 1: People gonna say like you. 1305 01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,840 Speaker 2: I get that, but like I don't know, maybe because 1306 01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:18,200 Speaker 2: like when we talked about it before this, when I 1307 01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:22,800 Speaker 2: did the finals, like that was like when I really realized, 1308 01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:27,400 Speaker 2: like how like difficult y'all job is because like you 1309 01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:30,960 Speaker 2: see you want like you know, Thursday night football, like 1310 01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:32,880 Speaker 2: you're staring at the camera, you know, you're talking to 1311 01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:34,960 Speaker 2: all that stuff, and you're like, oh, yeah, that's cool whatever. 1312 01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:38,160 Speaker 2: And then like when I sat in that chair and 1313 01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:41,040 Speaker 2: there was like me, stephen A by my well Bond 1314 01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:50,200 Speaker 2: and Mileak and obviously is and I was appreciated, and 1315 01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:52,320 Speaker 2: uh I was looking at Mileak and I'm just like, 1316 01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:54,880 Speaker 2: you know, she's she's doing it. I'm just like, dog, 1317 01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:59,200 Speaker 2: this is this is absurd, Like this is would yeah, 1318 01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:02,800 Speaker 2: I'm like I would be butchering this. So like I'm like, 1319 01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:07,480 Speaker 2: if that's your mess up, that's that's amazing, because. 1320 01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:08,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't think of anything I've done that was 1321 01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:12,000 Speaker 5: like oh no, like I was, you know, but we 1322 01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:13,960 Speaker 5: all have our day, knock on wood, but everyone has 1323 01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:14,320 Speaker 5: their day. 1324 01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:16,400 Speaker 6: You're human, you're talking, you make a mistake. 1325 01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:18,720 Speaker 7: I feel that it's like the equivalent of getting dump 1326 01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:20,240 Speaker 7: dumped on or exactly. 1327 01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:23,200 Speaker 6: It will come. But you you rebound, it's live. 1328 01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:27,800 Speaker 1: TV, or what'd you say last time they're gonna do 1329 01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:28,240 Speaker 1: this again? 1330 01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,360 Speaker 6: Would you say, I want to know, would you. 1331 01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:35,040 Speaker 1: Say last time about Josh he did? What? What was it? 1332 01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:38,560 Speaker 7: Child is guarding Shay and Shay? Was it a spin move? 1333 01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:39,960 Speaker 1: Oh? It was a spin move. Yep. 1334 01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:44,720 Speaker 6: Touch there you were laughing. 1335 01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:48,560 Speaker 2: Okay, So but like this is this is all I 1336 01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:51,600 Speaker 2: gotta say, right because, like you said, everyone has their day. 1337 01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:52,440 Speaker 6: Everyone has their day. 1338 01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:56,439 Speaker 2: Everyone has your day. Remember what we talked about sacrifice? Yes, 1339 01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:58,600 Speaker 2: and like the high end people, you know, sacrifice is 1340 01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:03,520 Speaker 2: a little different. Jalen doesn't have to worry about it 1341 01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:06,800 Speaker 2: being his day because he sacrifices on the defensive end, 1342 01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:13,000 Speaker 2: so he doesn't have to worry about guarding shape, falling, 1343 01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:17,280 Speaker 2: getting dunked on by somebody. Like that's his sacrifice. 1344 01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:20,000 Speaker 3: I got, yeah, Yeah, I'm out there. 1345 01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,640 Speaker 2: I'm out there getting boom Bob DeMar de Roza like 1346 01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:27,160 Speaker 2: you know, giving me like thirty just all contested mid 1347 01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:29,560 Speaker 2: ranges and he's just over there just smiling at me. 1348 01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:33,000 Speaker 5: You should know, when I chatted with Jalen about this season, 1349 01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:34,840 Speaker 5: he told me he believes he's taking a lot of 1350 01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:36,240 Speaker 5: steps as a defender this year. 1351 01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:36,920 Speaker 6: Do you agree? 1352 01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:42,400 Speaker 2: Today is January twenty third. I'm just trying to think 1353 01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:45,560 Speaker 2: the last time you took a charge. 1354 01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:52,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, they didn't call it under the under the. 1355 01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:53,439 Speaker 6: Charge. 1356 01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:55,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. So I'm trying to think he's like. 1357 01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:56,680 Speaker 1: The last time you took a charge. I took a 1358 01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:57,120 Speaker 1: charge of me. 1359 01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,919 Speaker 2: Last for it to be a charge, I had to. 1360 01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:05,479 Speaker 6: Was on the ground mad, looking the are. 1361 01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,320 Speaker 2: You talking about? It was? It was on our side 1362 01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:07,760 Speaker 2: of the bench. 1363 01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:10,440 Speaker 3: No, it was on the side. 1364 01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:12,400 Speaker 1: It was a no call. It was a clear enough 1365 01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,440 Speaker 1: contact for a block or a charge, like clear enough contact, 1366 01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:18,240 Speaker 1: and then like it was just like weird, like the ball. 1367 01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,440 Speaker 1: It was like a bad miss, like no call. We're 1368 01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:29,120 Speaker 1: just everyone's like like nothing, yes because one practice. 1369 01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:32,880 Speaker 3: Do you think he's taking practice. 1370 01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:36,480 Speaker 1: Because one practice said yo, let's just switch, let's just 1371 01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:38,560 Speaker 1: switch it. Jalen, isn't a cone? You didn't say that. 1372 01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:44,480 Speaker 1: You did say that. I okay, so that's I was 1373 01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:47,960 Speaker 1: never a cone. I'm one. I'm out a cone. I'm 1374 01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,040 Speaker 1: like one of those like you know now, like they 1375 01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:51,960 Speaker 1: have like the person with the arms and. 1376 01:05:52,960 --> 01:06:01,160 Speaker 2: Not cond you've been you were last year, You're not 1377 01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:02,400 Speaker 2: getting that many charges this year? 1378 01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:03,840 Speaker 1: Well, I'm not playing as much. 1379 01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:06,400 Speaker 2: You I'll say, you're you're just starting to switch a 1380 01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:08,040 Speaker 2: little bit more and to pick a roll, you know 1381 01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:08,400 Speaker 2: what I mean. 1382 01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:10,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, baby steps. 1383 01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:12,600 Speaker 2: Yeah we're gonna get there. 1384 01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:14,480 Speaker 1: It's like you're taking like you're off of the game, 1385 01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:16,880 Speaker 1: taking baby steps. You're having a career year. I was 1386 01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:20,720 Speaker 1: in thirteen mm hm my career year. It was I 1387 01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:22,400 Speaker 1: was fifteen. That was kind of like a joke. But 1388 01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:24,400 Speaker 1: I was fifteen a couple of years ago. But you 1389 01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:31,520 Speaker 1: know everyone forgot that. But sacrifice. You chose a sacrifice. 1390 01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:32,760 Speaker 1: I accept my role. 1391 01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:35,040 Speaker 2: I can't wait. I'm pulling you go to see the 1392 01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:39,000 Speaker 2: next game. I am pulling shot shots last time you go. 1393 01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:41,480 Speaker 1: See the amount of times I literally yelled a Josh 1394 01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:43,200 Speaker 1: and Josh, you're open, shoot the ball. He's like, but 1395 01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:48,400 Speaker 1: I had to, okay, how many at least once every 1396 01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,160 Speaker 1: three games? Bro shoot the ball? 1397 01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:54,320 Speaker 6: Because I'll say, when when yours going in, they're going in. 1398 01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:55,400 Speaker 6: They really are. 1399 01:06:55,880 --> 01:07:00,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. But like I said, I've always said, I my 1400 01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:02,440 Speaker 2: I don't get paid the score. 1401 01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:04,320 Speaker 1: Oh my god, this. 1402 01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:05,280 Speaker 6: Is his favorite speech. 1403 01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:07,320 Speaker 2: No I don't. I don't get paid to score. And 1404 01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:10,520 Speaker 2: that was like the harsh reality that I like I learned, like, 1405 01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:12,720 Speaker 2: I don't get paid the score. Now what do I 1406 01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:16,240 Speaker 2: get paid? You get paid score. Therefore, when i'm when 1407 01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:19,960 Speaker 2: sometimes I might be open, sometimes like people like, oh, 1408 01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:22,400 Speaker 2: you shoot the ball. Sometimes I'm not even looking at 1409 01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:24,760 Speaker 2: the realm. I don't even know I'm open because I 1410 01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:28,080 Speaker 2: grabbed Those times I grabbed ball with one hand wide open, 1411 01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:30,520 Speaker 2: They're like, shoot it, I have the ball like this. 1412 01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:34,040 Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, guy, they get paid the score, 1413 01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:35,160 Speaker 2: and they do and the. 1414 01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:39,280 Speaker 1: Score talking about defense, that's what if that's the thing. 1415 01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:40,800 Speaker 1: Don't talk to me about the defense then. 1416 01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:44,320 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just an average fourteen I don't average 1417 01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:49,240 Speaker 2: one steel game. I don't know if that's the same. 1418 01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:52,400 Speaker 1: Can average fourteen Steelers? 1419 01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:55,560 Speaker 2: Josh? I mean, if you did let me eat. 1420 01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:58,360 Speaker 7: Baby, it's a great place to close it out. I think, yeah, 1421 01:07:58,640 --> 01:07:59,720 Speaker 7: st continued. 1422 01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:02,960 Speaker 2: I can't wait next time. Next time I passed up 1423 01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:04,720 Speaker 2: a shot and he so yelled at me to shoot, 1424 01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:05,120 Speaker 2: I'm just. 1425 01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:06,560 Speaker 7: Laugh I'm a servant. 1426 01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:08,520 Speaker 6: I'm a servant. 1427 01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:10,000 Speaker 2: Here's the ball, Captain. 1428 01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:16,800 Speaker 1: Bet bet first. 1429 01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:20,559 Speaker 2: But everyone, we appreciate you, guys, tune in Taylor, We 1430 01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:21,240 Speaker 2: appreciate you. 1431 01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,439 Speaker 6: No, thank you all so much for having me this 1432 01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:26,400 Speaker 6: is such a fun time. You said such nice things. 1433 01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:30,120 Speaker 2: Oh for sure, for sure, make sure you guys tune 1434 01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:33,880 Speaker 2: in every Thursday for new episodes. Obviously, next year, make 1435 01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,799 Speaker 2: sure you guys tune in and see Taylor in studio 1436 01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:40,760 Speaker 2: with Amazon for their debut of the NBA. So much 1437 01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:44,439 Speaker 2: love to y'all, much love to you and later good birds. 1438 01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:46,120 Speaker 2: Oh god. 1439 01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:47,880 Speaker 7: So this next segment is brought to you by our 1440 01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:51,120 Speaker 7: new exclusive content platform, fan Fix. You guys are gonna 1441 01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:54,439 Speaker 7: get early access on drops merch tickets. Obviously we did 1442 01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:57,479 Speaker 7: the Roommates block party, more stuff like that. 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