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Speaker 1: What is up, Mets fans, Welcome back to another off

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Speaker 1: season episode of the Mets Uff Podcast. We've got a

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Speaker 1: lot come natural. There's actually, like surprisingly, a lot of

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Speaker 1: Mets news to talk about that we're excited to actually

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Speaker 1: be talking about the Mets at this point, as well

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Speaker 1: as we're gonna do a little World Series preview for you, because,

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Speaker 1: as you know, it's gonna be Diamondbacks, who, thank goodness,

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Speaker 1: beat the Philadelphia Phillies going up against the Texas Rangers

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Speaker 1: in the World Series. We're gonna preview that entire matchup

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Speaker 1: for you guys too. So if you like what you're

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Speaker 1: The boys have been on the road. I've been in Arizona, James,

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Speaker 1: you've been in San Francisco. How's it feel bad or

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Speaker 1: how's it feel to be back in New York It

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Speaker 1: feels good. Really, I just feel good to be doing

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Speaker 1: the show again. This is like eight days since we

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Speaker 1: last recorded episode. This is the longest we've gone without

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Speaker 1: recording in like basically a full year.

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Speaker 3: And I miss you guys. I want to talk to

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Speaker 3: you guys about baseball.

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Speaker 4: I'm excited to talk about met stuff, some big things happening,

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Speaker 4: and excited to talk about this World Series because I think,

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Speaker 4: as opposed to what some like nationally syndicated writers will

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Speaker 4: have you believe, I think there's one of the more

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Speaker 4: interesting and exciting World Series matchups that we've had in

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Speaker 4: a really long time.

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Speaker 1: I have some shame on the writers for doing that.

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Speaker 1: You have a chance to hype up two great teams

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Speaker 1: that are built in different ways.

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Speaker 2: The Diamondbacks and Rangers.

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Speaker 1: Two years ago both had one hundred wins or one

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Speaker 1: hundred losses my bad, one hundred losses in the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one season. They're both in the World Series right now.

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Speaker 1: This may not be exciting per se from the national

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Speaker 1: standpoint for the idiots who don't actually love baseball, who

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Speaker 1: are like man, I want to see the Dodgers first

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Speaker 1: the Yankees every single year. That's actually not good for baseball.

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Speaker 1: Having teams like this get into the World Series. Growing

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Speaker 1: the game in these markets. I mean Texas not as much,

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Speaker 1: is super big. For a franchise that is still relatively young,

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Speaker 1: only about thirty ish years old, I think this might

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Speaker 1: be even their twenty fifth season really good stuff. Shame

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Speaker 1: on the writers though, for saying this this World Series

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Speaker 1: is not gonna be exciting. We'll go into the full

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Speaker 1: pre we'll tell you more about it, but these are

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Speaker 1: two awesome teams.

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Speaker 3: Awesome teams, really fun.

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Speaker 4: Also, a team that has never won a World Series,

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Speaker 4: any team in any sport in a championship that's never

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Speaker 4: won one, I think is incredibly exciting. That's just never

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Speaker 4: happened before. Also a breath of fresh air. First time

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Speaker 4: since twenty sixteen. I'm sure you guys have seen these

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Speaker 4: exact thing. First time since twenty sixteen that the Astros

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Speaker 4: I think it's really cool, like new blood. And I

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Speaker 4: but I think this just highlights like some of the

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Speaker 4: great aspects of modern baseball. Like I've chastised to playoff

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Speaker 4: more twelve million dollars annually. To show that they have

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Speaker 4: won eighty four games, they barely snuck into the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: They were just meandering mediocre in the middle of the season.

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Speaker 4: It's really cool, and we're gonna talk about it a

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Speaker 4: First Off, we had two Mets nominated for MLBPA Choice

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Speaker 2: So clap it up, Clapped it up.

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Speaker 4: All of these MLBPA awards are voted on by the players,

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Speaker 4: goes around every clubhouse, every locker room in the league,

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Speaker 4: and it's given out to a player who inspires others

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Speaker 3: We know how great a leader Francisco Lindor is.

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Speaker 4: We also know he does great charity work with his organization,

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Speaker 4: He's also done so much work as alma mater, Monford

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Speaker 4: we've talked about ad nausey, about how much he does

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Speaker 4: this year and what was a bad season for the Mets,

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Speaker 4: talking every single day, saying the right things, be accountable,

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Speaker 3: So really nice to see him be recognized for this

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Lindor is the man you talk about

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Speaker 1: the on field presence too. How about the fact they

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Speaker 1: still had one of the best seasons a shortstop hat

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Speaker 1: he's incredible. Everything about Francisco Lindora is awesome, and it

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Speaker 1: I don't remember exactly how long the contract has left,

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Speaker 1: even better. That not only is he great on the field,

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Speaker 2: Help people who need help.

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Speaker 1: I mean, just being able to take your time like

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's incredible stuff.

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Speaker 4: This shoutout him of course, and then Koda Sanga and

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Speaker 4: nationally Outstanding Rookie. This isn't like the syndicated Rookie of

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Speaker 4: as we know, just amazing. Francisco Indoor also named the

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Speaker 4: goal Glove finalists last week. It happened like right after

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Speaker 3: But again kind of disappointing.

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Speaker 4: No utility goal Glove nomination for Jeff McNeil, Mookie Betts

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Speaker 4: and Hassong Kim were both nominated for utility and their

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Speaker 4: to like give someone who's like, you know, a little

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Speaker 2: But whatever.

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Speaker 1: I so like, I'm okay with Mookie Betts getting it

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Speaker 1: because he did something that you just like honestly haven't

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Speaker 1: you know what, I'll play second base, end shortstop as

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Speaker 3: One because the guy we're talking about the Mets is

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But I mean like Hasson and Kim like played

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Speaker 3: This year?

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Speaker 1: Like that's that's a little bit of a cop out

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Speaker 1: to call him a util player. He's a utility infielder.

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Speaker 1: I feel like for utility you have to play both

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Speaker 4: I don't disagree with you at all, or at least play

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Speaker 4: We're all gonna forget it because he went well one

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Speaker 3: Got more hit one more hit than we did in

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but Snake's the most exciting team in America, America's team,

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Speaker 4: if you will, so he can't really fault someone for that.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, just Mookie Betts was a revelation this year.

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Speaker 4: Also fun, little one Francisco Olivarez nominated for the Luis

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Speaker 2: Okay, I don't think.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna win it. There's a lot of amazing fans

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Speaker 2: Very cool, very cool.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Francisco, we know, had like a crazy hot

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Speaker 3: Seasons long, he was still so so young.

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Speaker 1: But overall, looking back at his season, I know your

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Speaker 1: your boy, Gaby Moreno's one of your favorite catching guys

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Speaker 1: the postseason.

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Speaker 2: He's had a great postseason, not gonna deny it.

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Speaker 1: But then you look at Francisco Over's like, man, that

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Speaker 2: Like, Alvarez has.

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Speaker 1: best Venezuelan players in baseball at the age of what James.

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Speaker 4: I think next week we gotta do some oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what we'll invite him to.

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Speaker 1: Well, we can hang out, we can get a get

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Speaker 2: We know some good food in the area. We'll invite

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Speaker 3: We just make some lasagna to have a lasagna party

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Speaker 4: feeling about the Rangers. We just had a conversation about it,

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Speaker 4: like right the second the Phillies lost the World Series.

441
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Speaker 4: Which is nice that they last year lost the World Series,

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Speaker 4: will pile on the Phillies after we talked about teams

443
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Speaker 4: that won but lost the World Series. Now this year

444
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Speaker 4: they lost the NLCS, So you know, Philadelphia title town.

445
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Speaker 4: They can't they can't stop getting close and losing it's

446
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Speaker 4: it's as good as it gets. All those clutch players

447
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Speaker 4: pointing to their fingers, you know, that's that's how many

448
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Speaker 4: rings all those guys.

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Speaker 2: How we talk talk about the winners first, talk about

450
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Speaker 2: the winners furs.

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Speaker 4: But seeing the fact that this Arizona Diamondbacks team like

452
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Speaker 4: the fight in the team that everyone has written off

453
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Speaker 4: the entire year. They had absolutely nothing going for them

454
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Speaker 4: for they had a really good two months of this season.

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Speaker 4: We're abismo in the middle part of the season. The

456
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Speaker 4: Mets handled them soundly during the middle of the year.

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Speaker 4: I think the Mets one why five out of seven

458
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Speaker 4: games against them this season? There you go six out

459
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Speaker 4: of seven games against them the season. So shout out

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Speaker 4: to the captain the Mets for that one. But so

461
00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,520
Speaker 4: many things happened, so many players lost. There's here's the

462
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Speaker 4: fun staff the Arizona Dionbacks right now. Kittel Martin makes

463
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Speaker 4: eleven point six million dollars a year, Merril Kelly eight

464
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Speaker 4: point five, Christian Walker six point five the fourth highest

465
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Speaker 4: paid player on the Diamondbacks. Can you guess who it is?

466
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Speaker 4: Tommy Fan Paul c Waald, No neither Tommy Fan, oh

467
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Speaker 4: Evan Longoria nope, whoa, it's not no, not for justice salary,

468
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Speaker 4: he's five million.

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Speaker 3: Whoa, okay, oh Mason Bumgarner.

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Speaker 4: No, he's uh, let's see what I mean. Technically he's

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Speaker 4: do eighteen million, but I'm not counting guys not on

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Speaker 4: the roster.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Actually, here's a fun one. Mason Bumgarner, the highest paid

475
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Speaker 4: player in Diebacks, is not on the team. Nick I met,

476
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Speaker 4: the third technically highest paid player is also not on

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Speaker 4: the team.

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Speaker 2: Same with Zelly.

479
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Speaker 4: Who would be the ninth highest paid player. It's Mark Mullanson.

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Speaker 4: What do six million dollars?

481
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Speaker 3: Is he on the team? He's been on the il

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Speaker 3: basically the entire season.

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Speaker 1: Whoa Mark Mullanson was on the die Back I legitimately

484
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Speaker 1: thought he retired and disappeared into obscurity.

485
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Speaker 4: Nope, that's not it. And I'm also I'm looking for

486
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Speaker 4: a text message right now. I sent to my buddy

487
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Speaker 4: hear this August seventeenths my buddy, Christian, shoutout. Christian works

488
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Speaker 4: player development down for the Astros. Single A team. Now,

489
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Speaker 4: that's Tru's diymback single A team. I got my baseball

490
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Speaker 4: friends confused. On August seventeenth, The Dimingbacks are reeling. I

491
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Speaker 4: think they'd lost like ten and eleven games, or like

492
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Speaker 4: thirteen out of sixteen, something like that, and they pulled

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Speaker 4: out the purple jerseys as for the wishes of huge

494
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Speaker 4: August seventeenth, and that single handedly turned the entire season around.

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Speaker 4: Just again, show that you look good, you feel good,

496
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Speaker 4: and you feel good, you play good. I want to

497
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Speaker 4: get there. I want to get the record on that day.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, you pontificate now about your time in Arizona.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I was there for Game three, four and five.

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Speaker 1: Shout out Dalton James's friend now my friend as well,

501
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Speaker 1: who let me sleep on his couch, a real mench

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Speaker 1: Shout out to Dalton for that one.

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Speaker 2: Had a blast out there.

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Speaker 1: People are saying Arizona wasn't going to bring the vibes,

505
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Speaker 1: that the stadium was loud.

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Speaker 2: Now granted the.

507
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Speaker 1: Roof was closed, so it does help a little bit,

508
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Speaker 1: but the stadium was raucous, especially for that kid tell

509
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Speaker 1: Marte walk off, especially for the Alec Thomas home run.

510
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Speaker 1: The place was going wild. I had an absolute blast

511
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Speaker 1: out there. Super excited to go back to Arizona for

512
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Speaker 1: the World Series, even if we don't go to a

513
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Speaker 1: like every single game out there, just go to one

514
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Speaker 1: or hang out some bars.

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Speaker 2: People were really fun.

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Speaker 1: People seem to really love the snakes out there, good atmosphere.

517
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Speaker 1: Philly fans really thought they were going to take over.

518
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Speaker 2: They did not.

519
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Speaker 1: There were a bunch of them there, but they left

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Speaker 1: pretty quiet almost every single night, and it was just

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Speaker 1: a really good time. It was also awesome, And I

522
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Speaker 1: know we both tweet about this funny enough without even

523
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Speaker 1: noticing that everybody finally gets to see how Effin Good

524
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Speaker 1: could tell Marte is. I know we've talked about it

525
00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,160
Speaker 1: on this podcast whenever we play the Diamondbacks, like this

526
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Speaker 1: is one of the best second basement in baseball.

527
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Speaker 2: Without a doubt, the dude's elite.

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Speaker 1: He now owns the record for the longest hit streak

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Speaker 1: in postseason history. Every single postseason game could tell Marte

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Speaker 1: has ever played in, he has got a hit. And

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Speaker 1: I know we're not a batting average podcast, but that

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Speaker 1: is impressive and just what he's been able to do

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Speaker 1: at the top of that order, especially when Corborn Carrol

534
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Speaker 1: had been struggling outside of Game seven, which Corby and

535
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Speaker 1: Carroll legacy game. James she Ciano called it in the

536
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Speaker 1: group text message huge huge to get him going. Gaby

537
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Speaker 1: Morino has been great, and then there's been incredible cold spells.

538
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Speaker 1: Tommy fam and Christian Walker have been almost non existent

539
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Speaker 1: in the in the NLCS for them, and they were

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Speaker 1: still able to beat the Phillies. Lord Is Gariel has

541
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Speaker 1: been great. Alec Thomas guy think hit four home runs

542
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Speaker 1: all year? He has like five in the postseason. Just

543
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Speaker 1: goes to show you, like, yeah, Hualdo Perdomo, soft contact king.

544
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Speaker 1: The dude can't hit the ball harder than me, but

545
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Speaker 1: he gets on base a ton and he's been stealing

546
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Speaker 1: playing good defense. The Diamondbacks are a fun team in

547
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Speaker 1: a different way than the Rangers, like you said, because

548
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Speaker 1: the Rangers did go out and spend money. They but

549
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Speaker 1: they also have the same in that, like they've been

550
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Speaker 1: getting these huge, huge contributions from guys that are essentially

551
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Speaker 1: free on their team, like Corpy and Carroll. Being free

552
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Speaker 1: and being as good as he is is unbelievable. If

553
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Speaker 1: he in terms of value, he had to be one

554
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Speaker 1: of the top players in baseball this year, in terms

555
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Speaker 1: of like that fan grafts monetary value that they gave you.

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Speaker 1: How about Brandon Fought, How about Brandon fought a guy

557
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Speaker 1: who struggled mightily this year and just shoved shoved all

558
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Speaker 1: postseason long.

559
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Speaker 2: He's been phenomenal.

560
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Speaker 1: The bullpen filled with guys that you've probably never heard of.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say that you know, us fans don't

562
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Speaker 1: aren't knowledgeable, but seriously, how many of you knew that

563
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Speaker 1: Kevin Gingle was this good? How many of you knew

564
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Speaker 1: that Andrew Salfrank was gonna come in and get some

565
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Speaker 1: big outs, or even Kyle Nelson like guys that are

566
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Speaker 1: just not necessarily jump off the page big but having

567
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Speaker 1: big moments, Ryan Thompson, guys that picked up off the

568
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Speaker 1: scrap heap.

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Speaker 2: So really cool to see.

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Speaker 1: The Diamonbacks playing well, but also on the other side,

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Speaker 1: really cool to see the Rangers just kind of absolutely

572
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Speaker 1: give it to the Astros. I know was Game seven,

573
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Speaker 1: but they pretty much dominated this series.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do.

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Speaker 4: I think again, both teams are really exciting. Both teams

576
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Speaker 4: are a lot of fun. And you're talking about Katel Marte,

577
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Speaker 4: and I think that the way that you watch the

578
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Speaker 4: other players on Theminican and Public's national team, the WBC

579
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Speaker 4: kind of interact with caateel Marte, and you saw the

580
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Speaker 4: respect he was given when that lineup is being drawn

581
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Speaker 4: up and being in that lineup every day, you could

582
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Speaker 4: see with other players think of him, and he's a

583
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Speaker 4: guy who he power, contact, act, good defense, good athleticism

584
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Speaker 4: on field, Leitherer like he literally does everything, and he's

585
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Speaker 4: one of the fun players in the league where he

586
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Speaker 4: doesn't really have a weakness. As crazy as this to say,

587
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Speaker 4: because he's not a player that's like nationally syndicated. He's

588
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Speaker 4: not like he's not living an household name. But he's

589
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Speaker 4: got positive run value against every single pitch he saw

590
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Speaker 4: this year. He doesn't have a negative run value against

591
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Speaker 4: any pitch. His barrel rates at league average. He strikes out,

592
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Speaker 4: whiffs and chases well bubb league average with the power,

593
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Speaker 4: doesn't strike out like he's he's awesome.

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Speaker 2: He's a really good baseball player.

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Speaker 4: People don't talk about it enough, and there's there's so

596
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Speaker 4: many things in this team. I think Brandon Fott hit

597
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Speaker 4: the way he's come alive in this postseason. I think

598
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Speaker 4: we talked about a lot in the show, but is

599
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Speaker 4: a lesson to the way people across baseball interact with

600
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Speaker 4: prospects of the way you want to say it to

601
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Speaker 4: where you kind of.

602
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Speaker 3: If we say on this podcast all the time.

603
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Speaker 4: Like Brandon fought this year, he had such a disastrous

604
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Speaker 4: first couple of coffee in the major leagues. And he's

605
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Speaker 4: someone who came up with this this crop of young

606
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Speaker 4: diamonbacks pitchers with him, Ryan Nelson Andrew Jamison, and there

607
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Speaker 4: was a time where Fott was probably the considered the

608
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Speaker 4: lower of those three, and then last season he had

609
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Speaker 4: an incredible revolutionary year in the minor leagues where then

610
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Speaker 4: he became the one who was supposed to be the

611
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Speaker 4: highest of those three, where he just he steamrolled through

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Speaker 4: Triple A, had a lot of strike outs in Double

613
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Speaker 4: A before going to the PCL era was better in

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Speaker 4: Triple A. But he put together and this is the

615
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Speaker 4: most important thing about Brandon Fought and kind of seeing

616
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Speaker 4: which young guys can step up for a team with

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Speaker 4: things matter most.

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Speaker 3: He put up innings.

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Speaker 4: Last year, Brandon fought through one hundred and sixty innings

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Speaker 4: in minor league so it was one of the highest

621
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Speaker 4: totals for any minor league player in all of baseball.

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Speaker 4: And I think that is a big thing when you

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Speaker 4: look at guys, especially now. To bring it back to

624
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Speaker 4: the Mets, we're gonna be looking at the Mets season

625
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Speaker 4: next year where we don't know what the Pache rotation

626
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Speaker 4: is gonna look like. And there's a lot of young

627
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Speaker 4: guys this year who like kind of asserted themselves and

628
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Speaker 4: took these steps up, and you want to look at

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Speaker 4: the guys who.

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Speaker 2: Possibly could be there.

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Speaker 4: Because I think another thing that we struggle with in

632
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Speaker 4: baseball analysis, because a lot of it comes for fantasy baseball,

633
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Speaker 4: because that's just where a lot of people come and

634
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Speaker 4: talk about it. We tried too much to think about

635
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Speaker 4: the beginning of the year rather than the end of

636
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Speaker 4: the year. Because you're playing, or you want a guy

637
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Speaker 4: wo's gonna be on a team right the way you

638
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Speaker 4: want a guy's gonna be contributing.

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Speaker 3: One of guy's gonna jump from the start. You want

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Speaker 3: to get that advantage.

641
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Speaker 4: But a guy like fat who came up and was horrific.

642
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Speaker 4: Era was nine the first half of the year. He

643
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Speaker 4: makes a little adjustment, shout out Brent Strom best best

644
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Speaker 4: to do it in the bid so good. He moves

645
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Speaker 4: him on the mound. So his two seam fastball that

646
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Speaker 4: with the arms side run away from the lefties into

647
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Speaker 4: the rieties can have a little more life and kind

648
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Speaker 4: of get off to play a little bit more. And

649
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Speaker 4: you see that work in this series against the Phillies

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Speaker 4: where Stott did get to him. But you see the

651
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Speaker 4: way that a pitcher like Fought can give fits to

652
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Speaker 4: left handed batters who aren't used to that kind of

653
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 4: crazy movement coming from the right handed pitcher. And you

654
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Speaker 4: see the way he can build confidence. And it all

655
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Speaker 4: comes again from throwing so many innings last year and

656
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Speaker 4: he's just hit his innings cap this year for like

657
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Speaker 4: for where he was compared to last year through a

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Speaker 4: hundred sixty last year, he just got to about one

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Speaker 4: hundred seventy this year. That's the guy who's cleaning to

660
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Speaker 4: the World Series. Like you to be able to have

661
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Speaker 4: him as be their third most important picture, I would

662
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Speaker 4: even argue their most important starting pitcher through the series.

663
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 4: The way Zach Gallon struggled, the way Meryl Kelly got

664
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Speaker 4: hit in his first appearance, Brandon Fought to go out

665
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 4: there and throw multiple gems in the playoff series against

666
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Speaker 4: the team with the hottest lineup in the league. It's

667
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 4: it's really unbelievable. And again it just goes to show

668
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Speaker 4: people that when you have a prospect like this.

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Speaker 3: You have to get people. You have to give him time.

670
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 3: You have to give him time.

671
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Speaker 4: The things they do in their first three, four, five,

672
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 4: six major league starts, they're not gonna be indicative of

673
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Speaker 4: what they do the rest of their career, even as

674
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 4: we're seeing now the rest of the season. If they

675
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 4: would have given up on him, they wouldn't.

676
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Speaker 3: Have made the World Series.

677
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Speaker 4: But they stuck with him. They had a lot of

678
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Speaker 4: confidence in him. He made the right adjustments, and then

679
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 4: when the opportunity to rose, he stepped up and he delivered.

680
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 4: And that's kind of one of the most beautiful things

681
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Speaker 4: about baseball in general.

682
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Speaker 1: Can't stop, can't stop, can't stop doing the snakes. Shout

683
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Speaker 1: out Dalton, Shout out coach for let me stay. We'll

684
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Speaker 1: be there again next week. And last thing I want

685
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Speaker 1: to say too that I met heard on the broadcast

686
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 1: and that Tory Levello talked about. Also, shout out Tory Leavello.

687
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 1: Done an incredible job this year. They've they've stuck with

688
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: a plan. And I know some people are anti analytics. Yeah,

689
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: he did not play Alec Thomas last night. He didn't

690
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: start him. There was a lefty on the mount Ranger

691
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: Suarez started Tommy fam It ended up working out.

692
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 2: He stuck to the plan.

693
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,479
Speaker 1: He pulled Merrill Kelly, Merrill Kelly was dealing, pulled them

694
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: so get out of the game. Meryl Kelly was pissed.

695
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,120
Speaker 1: They won that game because he stuck to the plan,

696
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: trust the numbers, trust his guys, trust their plan. That

697
00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 1: they had huge job by him. But he was talking

698
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 1: about one thing that he loved about Brandon Fott last

699
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 1: year in particular, and something we've talked about in this podcast,

700
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: and I know Veto and John have talked about on

701
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: future of Flushing is how important it is for these

702
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: young players to be in just playoff games, championship games,

703
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Speaker 1: even in the minor leagues. And one thing they talked

704
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 1: about was last year Brandon Fott pitching the championship game

705
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 1: in Triple A for the Reno Aces, and now he

706
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: was he was thrilled. He was like, give me the ball,

707
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 1: I want the ball. I want to pitch this game.

708
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: In a spot where theoretically he could have been discouraged

709
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: that he was not called up to the major league

710
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: level last year to make maybe one or two starts

711
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: at the end of the season. Instead he was like

712
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 1: I get to pitch in a playoff atmosphere in the miners.

713
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: Obviously it's different, but he sees the opportunity. He was

714
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 1: super excited about it, and that was something that Tory

715
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Speaker 1: level say. He's like, basically, he's a dog.

716
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 2: He's a dog. He wants to be out there, he

717
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 2: wants the ball, he's excited.

718
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Speaker 1: He saw him reading his book before the game on

719
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: the bench, which was pretty awesome, like really really cool

720
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: stuff to see. Prospects again are not linear. Will bang

721
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: it home again, because I'm sure we're gonna have this

722
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 1: conversation at some point next year when someone gets called

723
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: up and has one bad appearance and people start freaking

724
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Speaker 1: out again. But just remember this is a long, long,

725
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: long thing to find out if these players are good

726
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 1: or not. And someone like Brandon Fott's a good example

727
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 1: now to talk about those Rangers, because we also got

728
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: to talk about them too. Like I said, they kind

729
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: of man handled their astros, which sounds crazy because it

730
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: was a seven game series. But this offense is out

731
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 1: of control. And when a Doless Garcia is playing like

732
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: simply the best player in Major League Baseball right now,

733
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: it's gonna be really, really hard to beat them like

734
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 1: the Diamonbacks weakness, for sure is probably their starting pitching.

735
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,959
Speaker 1: They did not look great outside of Brandon Fott and

736
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: Merrill Kelly.

737
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 3: A.

738
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Speaker 2: Doles Garcia.

739
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 3: Man, he's just gonna neutralize anything that's going well for you.

740
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 3: He's such a dog. I think the coolest thing about this.

741
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 4: World series is that these two teams are so different

742
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 4: in the way that they were built, and not there's

743
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 4: any bad thing about it, but they both go to

744
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 4: show you, like how quickly things can happen. And Diamondbacks

745
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 4: have been slowly curating this farm system for a few

746
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 4: years and then they snapped, They got aggressive, they got

747
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 4: I mean, we don't we can't move.

748
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 3: On with I'll talk about Paul seawall right.

749
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 4: I was really trying not to policea well the fact

750
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 4: that as Mets fans, we're gonna watch a world series

751
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 4: where Paul Seawell and Tommy fam are going to probably

752
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 4: be contributing more than Max Scherzer and Jacob de Rahm's

753
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 4: some kind of vortex of time and space I can't

754
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 4: even make. And Miguel Castro and Migaul Castro really especially

755
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 4: Ginkle and seawalds the back of that bullpen just completely

756
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 4: being nails during the series. If those two guys even

757
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 4: let up an inch, the Diamonbacks are not going in

758
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 4: the World Series. Kevin Gingkle with that insane downward slider

759
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 4: and Slyers incredible. Everyone talks about sweepers and he comes

760
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 4: back with the gyro slider and JJ real mutos looking

761
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 4: who snapped their bat?

762
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 2: Was Boem snapped? His back snapped? It was like calm

763
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 2: down hard though, Oh.

764
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 4: No, that's when they mentally lost the game in that moment.

765
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 4: But yeah, just again, cesspas Barbecure the great tweet where

766
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 4: the Diamondbacks just tweeted the words Kevin Ginkle yesterday like

767
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 4: seventeen PM and they were like, image if you saw

768
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 4: this in March, Yeah, what would you think? And like,

769
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 4: Kevin Gingkle is the kind of guy who have most

770
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 4: baseball fans really don't know. I know, my deep fantasy

771
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 4: baseball heads do, just because he was the prospective closer

772
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 4: in this team for the last two years, but they

773
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 4: would never give him the ball there even though he

774
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 4: has always been their best reliever. He's always great, the best,

775
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 4: he throws the hardest, and he has the best Austree

776
00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 4: pitchers really frustrating. But seawalld Man Paul Seawald has become

777
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 4: the quintessential move that was made to trade that the

778
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:05,719
Speaker 4: end this year, Like, how can the Mariners look up

779
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 4: having missed the playoff? Jerry Depolo talking about winning fifty

780
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 4: four percent of their games, and you traded the guy

781
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 4: who's become the most important piece of a team that's

782
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 4: on in the World Series right now.

783
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's he's been great. He's been absolutely

784
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: money lights out. That bullpen's been fantastic. It's it's gonna

785
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: be interesting. It's gonna be interest to see what they

786
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: can do. This Rangers lineup, though, is just so good.

787
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: I know I keep bringing it up, but like top

788
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: to bottom, Marcus Siming leads it off, and then he

789
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: got Cory c You're hitting two, Like, come on, those

790
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: two up first, first and second? And then oh, how

791
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: about Ken Evan Carter twenty one years old? Talk about

792
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: another twenty one year old who's doing incredible things. Me

793
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: and you have been hip to Evan Carter for a bit,

794
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: so we've known that this was coming. But I mean,

795
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: he's so good, he's so good. His plate discipline's out

796
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: of control. And then o Adolas Garcia, Mitch Garver, Jonah

797
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: him everywhere you go in this line. Nathaniel Low is

798
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: hitting seventh. That guy's a dog, that guy's a ballplayer.

799
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: Shouting Nathaniel Low. You know he's going through some stuff

800
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: off the field, Like so happy for that guy that

801
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 1: he was able to hit a huge home run in

802
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: Game seven. Even Leodi Taveries, Travis Jankowski made an appearance

803
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: and almost hit a home run, got robbed by Kyle Tucker.

804
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: This lineup is legit now where they do lack is

805
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: on the pitching side. The pitching is not good, not

806
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: good at all. But if they keep scoring ten runs

807
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: a game, it truly doesn't matter what the Diamondbacks do,

808
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: they will not win.

809
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 3: No, it doesn't.

810
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 4: But I again, there's just there's so much about this

811
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 4: Rangers team that we can look at again pulling things

812
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 4: back to pulling things back to the Mets and be.

813
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 3: Like, Okay, this is this is part of the blueprint

814
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 3: because the Rangers. A lot of Astros fans were a

815
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 3: little but hurt about it.

816
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 2: The home ago.

817
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 4: The Rangers spent so much money and did it even

818
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 4: though the teams I think yearly pay roll is separated

819
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 4: by like ten million, maybe yeah, seven million about that, so, yeah, cool.

820
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 4: But they went down free agency, and this is something

821
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 4: that you got to tip your hat to the Phillies too.

822
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, they've had two very good seasons here.

823
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Speaker 4: They made further than most teams in baseball cubuts even

824
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 4: the last two years. Can't say they didn't.

825
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 2: A lot of rings.

826
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of the rings, so many rings.

827
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Speaker 4: But if you go out in free agency, like it's

828
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 4: kind of chastised a little bit because of how you know,

829
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 4: the Mets, the Padres, the Yankees all fared this year,

830
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 4: the Dodgers a year after year. But if you go

831
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 4: get the right players, it really is like that's the difference.

832
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 4: And seeger and send me in together. Nathan Valdi, My god,

833
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 4: with this guy, the fact that he's not even throwing

834
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 4: hard anymore, he just shows up in the most he is.

835
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 4: No one hits him with those big gass years, it

836
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 4: doesn't make any sense. But if you go out and

837
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 4: you could do the right things with the right players,

838
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 4: I think a huge part of that doing the right

839
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 4: things with the right players is the organizational infrastructure. The

840
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 4: text range are put in place, talked about in the past.

841
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 4: I think Chris Young's done an amazing job as general manager there.

842
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 4: It took them a lot to fire John Daniels after

843
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 4: they made him the youngest general manager in team history.

844
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 4: Lots of swings and misses and his regime, but the

845
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 4: biggest thing they did two huge moves. I tweet the

846
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 4: boat the other day and you could tell that it's

847
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 4: something that's off the radar because I got like three likes.

848
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 4: Daron Wilhelm they hired him in twenty twenty one, right

849
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 4: the time when we started this podcast. You guys are

850
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 4: really long time listeners that you've probably heard of us

851
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 4: pontificating about it because he's the godfather of baseball Savon.

852
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 4: He's run their R and D department for years now,

853
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 4: said twenty twenty one. And the things that they've done

854
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 4: year is they like even like the moves they've made

855
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 4: that haven't really worked out, like John Gray, like they

856
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 4: kind of you had to get John Gray. If you

857
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 4: don't have John Gray, it wouldn't have gone the playoffs.

858
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 4: Like the things he was doing for the main and

859
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 4: Drevene really important. Andrew Heeney, you know what, it's weird,

860
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 4: but right now at least he can give you a

861
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 4: few winnings. Like Andrew Heen, He's always gonna be that

862
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 4: guy who's like one adjustment away. He's the kind of

863
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 4: Dame Dunning, Dane Dunning, but like Dane Dunning, the massive

864
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 4: shifts they've done with Dan Dunning in the last year,

865
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Speaker 4: switching his two seamer and his sinker and his fastball,

866
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,719
Speaker 4: like the way he's approaching hitters, just building this bullpen

867
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 4: of pure chaos. But everyone at least still throws ninety

868
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 4: five ninety six miles an hour, so like it's still

869
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 4: gonna be hard to hit. These guys aren't that good,

870
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 4: but they're still kind of hard to hit. Like it's

871
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 4: just it's so.

872
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 3: Cool what they've done.

873
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 4: And then the last guy you're talking about, because you

874
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 4: go through the lineup Joana him taking the big step,

875
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 4: Mitch Garver turning the clock back low, Josh Young.

876
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: Donnie Ecker.

877
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 4: Guys is there hasn't been one thing written about this

878
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 4: guy since this team went crazy. There's been nothing the

879
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 4: hitting coordinator, the bench coach for this roster. It's like

880
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 4: sometimes in baseball you look and you're like, wow, every

881
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 4: single guy in this team is having a career. What

882
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 4: credit to the master slap slapping, their slapping their butts

883
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 4: every single day. No, it's the guy game planning for them,

884
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 4: the guy saying this is how you select your pitches.

885
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 4: A guy like a Doli Scarcie doesn't become one of

886
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 4: the best hitters in baseball on accident when he's someone

887
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 4: who swings at everything. Can identify a slyther for five

888
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 4: years his entire baseball professional life, and now suddenly he's

889
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 4: walking ten percent of the time. Is bower Yates still

890
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 4: twenty percent? Like that is not something that happens. So

891
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 4: everyone look up Donieker. You can see what happens when

892
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 4: you get the right coaches and the right organizational infrastructure

893
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 4: in place. Donieker, Darren Willem, Chris Young And also we

894
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 4: got I make fun, we joke about it. But Bruce

895
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 4: Bochie does get some legitimate credit for this, he really does.

896
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 4: Like the fact that he has never lost a game

897
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 4: seven Now Dusty Baker still never won one. Like baseball

898
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 4: is random and there's a lot of variance in this game.

899
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 4: But that is something that you really that's not an accident.

900
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 4: Like you just can't you can't that you gotta tip

901
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 4: your cap to that and seeing him be interviewed after

902
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 4: Game six, I think was that stark realization of how

903
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 4: having someone who has won, who has been there before,

904
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 4: who's legitimately been there before, someone who who championed the dynasty.

905
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 2: You don't do that. The last dynasty in baseball, Yes.

906
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 4: The last dynasty in baseball. I'd probably say the last

907
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 4: dynasty in sports, because the Patriots first dynasty was before that.

908
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 4: The second one I don't think was really Yeah. Warriors, Yeah, Warriors,

909
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 4: I forgot where I mean Kevin Durant, I don't know.

910
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 2: I guess. I mean they're a loser dynasty, but they

911
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 2: were one.

912
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, they guess they were a dynasty.

913
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 2: I just don't know.

914
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 3: The NBA. I know the NBA started the other day. Whoop?

915
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 3: Do the NBA's baseball going on?

916
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 4: Still, guys, But from to the fact that he has

917
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 4: been there before, the moment's not too big. This team

918
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 4: was completely dead. Both of these teams were completely dead

919
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 4: in the middle of August dead. I had I finally

920
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 4: got that stat before. When the Diamondbacks on August fourteenth,

921
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 4: had lost where is it, eight out of ten games,

922
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 4: they dropped to below five hundreds for the first time

923
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 4: in the season on August fourteenth, and then they brought

924
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 4: out the purple jerseys and that's when we've all turned

925
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 4: back around. Loo could feel good, feel good, play good.

926
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 4: But give Bruce Broche to credit. This team has been

927
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 4: dead so many times this year. They went up against all,

928
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 4: like so many good teams this postseason and they just

929
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 4: he was like, you know what, we're gonna win, We're

930
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 4: gonna go and we're gonna hand it to him, and

931
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 4: it was so sweet to watch them just crush murder

932
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 4: of the Astros. An Astros team that seems like they're

933
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 4: kind of making some changes, it doesn't. It seems like

934
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 4: that they might not look like the Astras of old

935
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 4: really anymore. Feels a little different. Dusty's gone. They lit

936
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 4: out front office like they walked away during the postseason,

937
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 4: which is kind of a normal thing because usually that's

938
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 4: when front office contracts are up sometime in October, so that's.

939
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 2: Not really doing much.

940
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, people are freaking out about that one, but it's

941
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 4: also kind of like it it could be changed, because

942
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 4: this could be something that we look back in five

943
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 4: years and be like, yeah, that's when this thing ended.

944
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 2: But it might not be.

945
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 3: They could be back next year. I'm not gonna count

946
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 3: hm out.

947
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 4: They go, they go to every alcs, but it's just

948
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 4: to see them crush them like that and see that

949
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 4: ballpark of all those passionate fans that dress like, for

950
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 4: lack of a better word, idiots leave in the eighth inning.

951
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 4: It was sweet and it was beautiful and it was amazing.

952
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 2: And it's because we like the Astros too. We have

953
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 2: towards up.

954
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 4: No, I don't like the Astro results more than fans

955
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 4: are just kind of annoying. But the roster of the players,

956
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 4: like they're an all time great team. Like we're gonna

957
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 4: be talking, We're gonna telling our grand kids about hoosel To.

958
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 4: He's going to be a Hall of Famer. He's he's

959
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 4: one of If not for literally the the the cheating scandal,

960
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 4: he'd be one of the most loved athletes of our generation.

961
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 4: It's something to say, but I think he still should

962
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 4: get the credit deserves being one of the best players

963
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 4: of a generation. But Rangers, Yeah, this Rangers team is fun.

964
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,439
Speaker 4: They're exciting, they're confident, they're brashed. They think they're gonna

965
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 4: beat you. If you guys didn't get a chance, you

966
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 4: have to check out the umpcam of adults Carcas home run.

967
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 4: It's probably the best use of any intuitive camera ever

968
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 4: in an athletic field where the ump is looking at

969
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 4: at least and he just throws his bat and it

970
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 4: looks like he's like talking talking to the umpire where

971
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 4: he's screaming, he's putting his hands up, he's saying, that's it.

972
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 2: That's that home run.

973
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 4: Four straight games, including the game he got plunked. It's

974
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 4: oh my god. So it's so much fun. They're such

975
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 4: a fun baseball team. And they're a team that went

976
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 4: out and in a couple of years they're like, you

977
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 4: know what, we're gonna be good. Let's go spend a

978
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 4: bunch of money, let's hire the right people, and we're

979
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 4: gonna be good.

980
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 3: We don't really care.

981
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 4: If you put investment in these baseball teams in the

982
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 4: right places, you're gonna be good.

983
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: And they prove that, and honestly, like, as a Met fan,

984
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: should be music to your ears. Brought in David Sterns.

985
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: It's a really really really good stuf art right there,

986
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 1: and we know he was able to build a winning

987
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: team out in Milwaukee, which, funny enough, every team or

988
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: if you beat the Brewers in the playoffs, you are

989
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: guaranteed to make the World Series. Since nineteen eighty one,

990
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 1: which I do believe is like the first time they

991
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: made the postseason possibly in their history, every single team

992
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: that has beat them in the playoffs since then has

993
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: gone onto the World Series, which is just an insane

994
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: stat because the Diamondbacks obviously knocked them out early. Embrace

995
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: the chaos. This is a chaos World Series is a

996
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: chaos playoffs. This is kind of what you almost want

997
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 1: to see a little bit when you have these more

998
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: expanded playoffs. You don't want to just see the one

999
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: seeds walk through. That almost makes it a little bit

1000
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: less worth it. Now, with these expanded playoffs, you see

1001
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: two six seeds make it.

1002
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 2: You go yeah.

1003
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 1: It seems like the expansion actually might have been the

1004
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: right idea because in previous years, both these teams simply

1005
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,240
Speaker 1: would not have even had a chance to make the playoffs.

1006
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: They would have been out of it would have been

1007
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: their seasons would have been over. And I and I

1008
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: think you too, think it's really cool that we get

1009
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: to see both these teams on the national stage in

1010
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 1: what is going to be a really, really fun world

1011
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: series again, Shame on the writers who are saying this

1012
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: one's boring. Shame on any base who are saying this

1013
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,919
Speaker 1: isn't gonna be a fun one. Listen, you can spend

1014
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: your time how you want.

1015
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 2: That's fine.

1016
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: But the people who are supposed to be reporting about

1017
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: these stories, writing about these games, promoting the game that

1018
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: are not doing a great job. Absolutely terrible, terrible, terrible.

1019
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: Let's go where you go.

1020
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 4: I think I say it's also these are the same

1021
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,919
Speaker 4: people who whined all season, all last offseason that it's

1022
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 4: all about money in baseball, all the big money teams

1023
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 4: you can't stop them, and team like the Diamondbacks, they

1024
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 4: goes to show you that a small market team that's

1025
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 4: under five hundred in the middle of August just sometimes

1026
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,959
Speaker 4: you gotta just go for it. And like they went

1027
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 4: for it, man see all and Tommy fam like it

1028
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 4: didn't seem like much of the time. But we look back,

1029
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 4: You're like, this is really that was a really good

1030
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 4: trade deadline. I think we said that on your stream

1031
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 4: where it's like and the best part about this and

1032
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 4: the worst thing about these writers killing it is that

1033
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 4: both of these teams are such a message to every

1034
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 4: other team in baseball.

1035
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: Yep.

1036
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 4: If you have the money and you're not spending it,

1037
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 4: you're costing yourself chances to win. If you're not in

1038
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 4: this for chances to win, why you win it. And

1039
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:55,959
Speaker 4: if you're a team in the middle at the middle,

1040
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 4: the middle of the season, just go for it. You

1041
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 4: can win, Like, oh yeah, you just win these games.

1042
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 4: You can win these games sometimes, you know, Kyle Schwarber,

1043
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 4: trade Turner, Bryce Harborn, Castiano. Sometimes they get they go

1044
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,720
Speaker 4: one for thirty in the last two games of a series.

1045
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,919
Speaker 4: Sometimes that happens. If that happens, you have a chance

1046
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 4: to win.

1047
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,760
Speaker 3: Like you could. It's just these are such good lessons

1048
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 3: every other organization in baseball.

1049
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 4: You sometimes you got to push the chips. You got

1050
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 4: no one to hold them, know, one to fold them.

1051
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 4: This isn't like I'm not like s beween the Mets

1052
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 4: right now, the Mets new went to fold them. It

1053
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,439
Speaker 4: was a great trade deadline, and we'll dip our caps

1054
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 4: at that forever. But this Dimbacks team that was reeling

1055
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 4: and they weren't that good. They don't know when the

1056
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 4: team makes any money. There's no household names. There's really

1057
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 4: not really any superstars besides Corbyn, Carroll can tell Marte

1058
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 4: if you really know what's going on. But no Bullpen,

1059
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 4: Oh my god, it's just go and the Rangers. Just

1060
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 4: you got money, spend it, get some superstars and make

1061
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 4: it happen.

1062
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but I don't want to

1063
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: do a world serious prediction. I don't want to jinx

1064
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: either of these teams. I just want good baseball.

1065
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 4: You guys want good ball too, Like it's just fun,

1066
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 4: Like I want to see these teams do it, and

1067
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 4: I just want to watch some games. And also it's

1068
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 4: kind of fun that we have a chaos series where

1069
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 4: don't really got.

1070
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 3: That much pitching. It's gonna be no, it's gonna be

1071
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 3: a lot of action.

1072
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 2: There's just a lot of score and given.

1073
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,439
Speaker 4: Me some weird guys get some innings in the series,

1074
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 4: which I kind of like a lot. It's gonna be some.

1075
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 4: Jose also show the Josea Clerk. You know, is how

1076
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 4: long Josela Clerk's been doing this for.

1077
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 1: He's like twenty seventeen eighteen, I think I think even

1078
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: before that.

1079
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 3: I think he first came up in like twenty fifteen.

1080
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 4: I'm trying to get his fangrass page right now, because

1081
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 4: I remember jose Le Clerk randomly helped me to a

1082
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 4: fancy baseball championship.

1083
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 3: And I want to say Clark is twenty sixteen, his

1084
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 3: first year, Yeah.

1085
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 4: Twenty and twenty eighteen, jose Clerk helped leave me to

1086
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 4: a championship, like twelve second half saves, massive, massive, changed

1087
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 4: my entire season. JOSEA Clerk, I had won five vlright,

1088
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 4: but just guy, twenty nine year old closer, he just

1089
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 4: got hot the right time, just going off. He had that,

1090
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 4: you know, a little bit of a shake up in

1091
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 4: the middle of the series, but he got he got

1092
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 4: back to it.

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00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 3: And it's just it's fun.

1094
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 4: It seems to have so many fun players, so many

1095
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 4: redemption stories, like so many cool things happening.

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00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 1: No, it's gonna be an awesome series. I hope we

1098
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: get to watch some great baseball. I hope it goes

1099
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 1: all seven games. That's what I'm rooting for. There, go Snakes,

1100
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: go Rangers, go whoever. It's gonna be great baseball. And

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00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: you guys, if you are baseball fans, you should be

1102
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: watching a lot of really good players in this game,

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00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: in this series. Now, last thing to talk about here.

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Speaker 1: It was Philadelphia Phillies.

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00:40:58,239 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, five minutes on the Phillies. You gotta do five

1106
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 3: and it's on the Phillies.

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00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 1: Garrett Stubbs, Stubbs, What an idiot that guy is? Garrett Stubbs,

1108
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: I mean, talk about talk about an absolute botch. Did

1109
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: you not learn anything? Did you not learn anything from

1110
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: the series where you beat the Braves? Don't give a

1111
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: team bulletin board material? And literally, literally minutes after they

1112
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: beat the Braves, what does Garrett Subs say, can't wait

1113
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: to jump in that pool and celebrate? Like?

1114
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 2: What an idiot? What an idiot?

1115
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: Because the Diamondbacks. The Diamondbacks literally were like, oh, we're

1116
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: not letting that happen. That's something that they mentioned. Tory

1117
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,479
Speaker 1: Levello talked about in a press conference after the game.

1118
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: They're not celebrating in that pool, Like why would you

1119
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: do that? And they called out the Mets too. You

1120
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 1: should have been worried.

1121
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 3: About the Snakes.

1122
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 4: It is funny that I feel like this Phillies team,

1123
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 4: similar to exactly what the Braves did last year, just

1124
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 4: completely forgot that there was more baseball to be played

1125
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 4: once they won what they deemed as the big series

1126
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 4: last year the Braves being the Mets, and then this

1127
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 4: year the Phillies being the Braves. Like you kind of

1128
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 4: build up these series all year and then mentally it's

1129
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,240
Speaker 4: hard to get yourself back ready, Like they totally overlooked

1130
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,240
Speaker 4: the Arizona Diaebacks, The national media totally overlooked the Arizona Diabacks.

1131
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 4: Chris mad Dog Russo really overlooked the Arizona Diamonbacks. Every

1132
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 4: single person in baseball went immediately to who the Phillies

1133
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 4: playing the World Series? And now it's like, all right,

1134
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 4: you could lose Aaron Nola, like you just you got

1135
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 4: I mean you should. You probably will lose Aaronola. Like

1136
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 4: you still have bullpen issues. You have to remedy. The

1137
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 4: lineup is still gonna be.

1138
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: But what how great was it that the bullpen did

1139
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 1: not show up in the biggest series of the year.

1140
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 2: I feel vindicated for that.

1141
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: There's a Philly fan that has been chirping me all

1142
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: year my dms. As soon as the game lost. They

1143
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: lost the game last night, I literally started telling him you.

1144
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 3: Had that bullpen. Look, buddy, how's how's that season going? Dude?

1145
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 2: I was like, I've been waiting for this all year.

1146
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: I know they had a good regular season, they got

1147
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: him there, but man, Craig Kimberl crumbling, crumbling. Oh, it's

1148
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 1: just amazing to see this Phillies team just absolutely do

1149
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: nothing at.

1150
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 2: The end of the year. It's so great.

1151
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:58,720
Speaker 3: And also again, Turner Harper, Castianos.

1152
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 1: Castanos in particular had a noodle series one hit in Game.

1153
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 4: Six and seven at home, the Phillies needed to win

1154
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,919
Speaker 4: one game in the bank. Ooh, the vaunted bank. Rob

1155
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 4: the bank, the scariest arena in sports. Yeah, you should

1156
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 4: have posted that that photoshop Dalton May two of robbing

1157
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:13,959
Speaker 4: the bank.

1158
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it just goes to show you that it's

1159
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 5: just just callowins. You gotta play ball sometimes it's so

1160
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 5: it's so much about what's in here. And you got

1161
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 5: people not watching YouTube, like, what's so mental? It's so

1162
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 5: mental this stuff.

1163
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 4: The Phillies were like, oh, people thought they were gonna

1164
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,240
Speaker 4: they were gonna sweep them this series.

1165
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 3: This series seemed over. That's my hot take.

1166
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: I think them taking the first two games as easily

1167
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: as they did was actually the kiss of death thinking

1168
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 1: back on it, because like you said, everyone was kind

1169
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: of already looking forward to who are the Phillies gonna

1170
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: play in the World Series. And I think after they

1171
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,439
Speaker 1: won those two games, especially Game two, smacking Zach Allen

1172
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: and then smacking Meryl Kelly around for a bunch of runs,

1173
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: I think that almost made them a little bit too comfortable.

1174
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: You go into Arizona, beautiful weather. It was one hundred

1175
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: and three degrees while I was there, which is insane.

1176
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 2: The jersey was unbuttoned while I was watching these games.

1177
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: It was so But I think the fact that they

1178
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: kind of took those two games, almost in retrospect, was

1179
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: the kiss of death because they had no adversity, they

1180
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: had nothing that was keeping them hot. They they handled

1181
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: them pretty easily, and it was like, Oh, we're just

1182
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 1: gonna We're just gonna beat them, Like that's what it's

1183
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: gonna be. And it's kind of what it felt like

1184
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: with them.

1185
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 4: And Super came down and Brandon fought being that stopper

1186
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 4: because if Brandon fod gets hit in that series and

1187
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 4: you're done series over, yep, you can't go down to three. Oh,

1188
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 4: even if they went down like four nothing in games.

1189
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 4: A bullpen game, yeah, right, and then and then the

1190
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 4: bullpen game after that, shout out the bullpen games out there.

1191
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:30,280
Speaker 2: I can't.

1192
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 4: I can't believe the Texas Rangers didn't do bullpen games

1193
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 4: this series and make sure to start. I can't believe

1194
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 4: they were like just be a regular start, Like why

1195
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 4: do you mean we've got good These bullpen games work

1196
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 4: all the time in the playoffs especially, But I don't know,

1197
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 4: like this, I think dramatically changes where the Phillies vibes are, like,

1198
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 4: we're not dancing. We're not dancing on my own anymore.

1199
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 4: Next year, ro are you can't do that after you

1200
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 4: lose twice in the playoffs?

1201
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 2: You can't.

1202
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 3: You can't bring the overalls back? Can you like this?

1203
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 2: What is the overalls? By the way, what does that

1204
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 2: You're from Philly, you're not from the South. What is that?

1205
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 3: A fun vibe? You can't deny?

1206
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 4: And now, like in all these conversations about Bryce Harper

1207
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 4: hits a lot of clutch home runs. Not in the

1208
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 4: World Series, Yeah, he does really clutching the DS series.

1209
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 4: He's amazing there and that you know what this if

1210
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 4: they're gonna hate me for saying this, Oh boy, this

1211
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 4: couldn't have worked out better for the Mets.

1212
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: It was it was outside of us winning it all.

1213
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 1: This was about as good as it could have gotten.

1214
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 4: And the other part of that is I want to

1215
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 4: just call to attention one more thing, probably before I

1216
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 4: said by to you guys, there were a lot of

1217
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 4: Mets fans that were really upset with Jacob de Grom

1218
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 4: last year when he left and he went to the Rangers,

1219
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 4: specifically because he talked about winning and people were like, oh,

1220
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 4: the Rangers have done nothing. Ever, this team is nonsense.

1221
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 4: He's going out there just to pitch and not care

1222
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 4: about anything. And then he isn't even here and this

1223
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 4: team's going in the World Series if Jacob deGrom was

1224
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 4: healthy right now, We've heard that before.

1225
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, right.

1226
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 4: It's also like I I'm a little upset, and again

1227
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 4: let us know in the comments, you guys made it

1228
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 4: this far in the show, like YouTube, Twitter, whatever. It's

1229
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 4: just like I wish was I wish Jacob de Groam

1230
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 4: was dominating the World Series right now, because I've never

1231
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 4: wanted anything more than for Jacob de Grim.

1232
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 3: To succeed like he is.

1233
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 2: Just he's so good.

1234
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 4: He's the best baseball player most of us ever gonna

1235
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 4: watch in our favorite team in our lives. Like there,

1236
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 4: it's so special and the fact that fans were giving him,

1237
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 4: like whatever you want to say about Max Schurz or

1238
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 4: he was only here for a year and a half,

1239
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 4: Like I'm not you know, it's fine, yeah either way there, I'm.

1240
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 3: Not gonna you know, I'm not gonna say it.

1241
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,959
Speaker 4: But Jacob de Grim really gave us everything he had

1242
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 4: and he left because the team gave us, gave him

1243
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 4: more money and had a lot of good things in place.

1244
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 4: This team again, like Mark and I had a really

1245
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 4: good inkling last year, like during the World Series of

1246
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 4: twenty twenty two, this Rangers team had something cool and

1247
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 4: that was before the Graham was even there, and he

1248
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 4: didn't even really pitch this year.

1249
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 3: I almost feel.

1250
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 4: Bad if he's gonna get a ring for this for

1251
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 4: throwing like seventeen innings, Like it's almost gonna be like

1252
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 4: this is the ring I get, like damn, but even

1253
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 4: like shres are going out and getting completely shelled into

1254
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 4: two most games, being like like, it's gonna be weird

1255
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 4: if he gets a ring for this, But I don't know.

1256
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 4: I'm it's where this show is bittersweet. I wish it

1257
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 4: would you see Jacob Graham doing it at the hight

1258
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 4: level right now.

1259
00:46:58,239 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 2: Because he do what you could be with us?

1260
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 4: Yeah we should be with us, of course, but any

1261
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 4: anywhere like see him be an X factor in the

1262
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 4: World Series Row would be cool. And just the fact

1263
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 4: that so many Mets fans have these tweets. Again, our

1264
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 4: least favorite bald analysts was saying it himself too that yeah,

1265
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 4: this team has no chance to do anything. Him saying

1266
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 4: this is like a slap in the face to the Mets.

1267
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 3: This team is.

1268
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 4: Good, the story, that organization is really good, and it's

1269
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 4: just there's there's no will will.

1270
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this, guys, me and James we talk

1271
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: a lot. You might not agree with us all the time,

1272
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: but boy, oh boy, do we spit some facts sometimes

1273
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: and we told you like when that happened, We're like,

1274
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: this is a good Rangers team, Like this isn't this

1275
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: I know they lost one hundred games a couple of

1276
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: years ago, This isn't a bad team.

1277
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 2: There's they've got the makings to be a good one.

1278
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 1: Made the World Series that's probably out exceeded expectations by most.

1279
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: But just listen to what we say sometimes, listen to

1280
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: what we say. We're not gonna be the people that

1281
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: are gonna be up in arms and telling you, oh,

1282
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: we hate this guy, FM, do this, do that, all

1283
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: that stuff. We have pretty sane takes for pretty good reason.

1284
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: And I'm I'm honest, James is even more sane than me.

1285
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: I still come out with some hate every once in

1286
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 1: a while on here.

1287
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 2: But that's why you gotta listen to the that's the

1288
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 2: podcast we're gonna give you.

1289
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: We're gonna give you the hot takes that are actually true,

1290
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: not like some of these other people who get a

1291
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 1: big voice on a national stage.

1292
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 2: But James got anything else to talk about here.

1293
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,240
Speaker 3: That's it. Just really excited for this world series.

1294
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: Yep, really excited guys. Thank you so much for listening

1295
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 1: and watching. Make sure you follow us on all our

1296
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: social media at metst up on Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok.

1297
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: Subscribe to the New York Mets YouTube channel so you

1298
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,480
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Speaker 1: next episode of the Messed Up Podcast.

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Speaker 3: Peace out, and see you guys next time.