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Speaker 1: Oh Tasper touchdown, touchdown, touch down time. Hello, they're welcome

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Speaker 1: to the show. Friday, end of the weekday. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: a one Bill's Drive where we host one Bills Live

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Speaker 1: right next door to the stadium where the Bills play

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Speaker 1: on a cloudy chili day in Orchard Park, New York,

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Speaker 1: kind of a down day. Seef, It's Friday, end of

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Speaker 1: the week. You went to do it? Really, it's not

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Speaker 1: about the weather. I'm all right. You went to Sabers

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Speaker 1: last night. I stay, don't watch some basketball. I don't

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Speaker 1: think either one of us were happy with what we saw.

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Speaker 1: How was the Sabers game. Sabers game was actually pretty entertaining.

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Speaker 1: If if we would have been, you know, in third

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Speaker 1: place in the conference, trying to get to second, couple

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Speaker 1: one point out, I could have lived with that game

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Speaker 1: last night getting a point out of it. But as

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Speaker 1: I was, um, you know, it's it was fun to watch.

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Speaker 1: It was the team got went down right away there,

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Speaker 1: down to nothing, came back and tied it up, and

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Speaker 1: then uh got it to overtime and lost it on

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Speaker 1: nice to see him fight back after a couple get

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Speaker 1: It was pretty entertaining, but not a huge crowd at

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Speaker 1: this at the year as you might, as you might imagine,

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Speaker 1: what do you do with a team like that that

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Speaker 1: um price hard and always always always comes up short.

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Speaker 1: What do you do with that team? Get better players? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: played played well. He looked like a really truly uh

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Speaker 1: I wish you'd have been there three months ago. But

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Speaker 1: um that he was nice. Um. The rest of the

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Speaker 1: But you know, you just gotta get deeper. You gotta

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Speaker 1: get talent further down the roster on those Sabers and

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Speaker 1: so that when they put their second line or third

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Speaker 1: don't have that right now. Listen, I I don't know you.

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Speaker 1: If I'm talking out of turn, you don't even have

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Speaker 1: talking about the people who are listening. Yeah, but it

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Speaker 1: was fun to be there last night. The arena is great.

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Speaker 1: So it's fun. It's a nice atmosphere. Do you eat

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Speaker 1: The atmosphere you know, really does never disappoint me. Really, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you. I still don't want to watch hoops

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Speaker 1: And the game tipped off at ten, which was really

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Speaker 1: be where this winds up. It'll become so mainstream that

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Speaker 1: there will be a natural um attempt to try to

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Speaker 1: fix games, whether it's officials or players or coaches those

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Speaker 1: And it won't necessarily have to be you know, shady

430
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Speaker 1: gambling guys. That'll be guys you know who run up debts,

431
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Speaker 1: gambling on some other sport you want to get out

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Speaker 1: of your debt, Help you here, help us here with

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Speaker 1: this game this weekend. That's how a lot of it

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Speaker 1: gets started. Yeah, I just think it'll be so widespread

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Speaker 1: and so mainstream that there's a likelihood that a games

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Speaker 1: could be uh fixed, there could be cheating by players

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Speaker 1: or officials or somebody in that extance. The reason if

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Speaker 1: it becomes way more prevalent, which right now it's not,

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Speaker 1: you know, you hear about its office pools and stuff

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Speaker 1: like that. But if it comes in well yeah, but

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Speaker 1: if it becomes more prevalent where they got windows right now,

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Speaker 1: they when everybody in the whole stadium has taken part,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, of course there's gonna be way more opportunity

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Speaker 1: for something, something outside the lines to happen. So by

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Speaker 1: that very definition and by the laws of averages, it's

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Speaker 1: going to be more prevalent. And here's what I don't

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Speaker 1: like about legalized sports gambling, and especially if it comes

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Speaker 1: to venues themselves arenas NFL stadiums. This is what the

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Speaker 1: game will look like. People will look the game and

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Speaker 1: then look at their bet, look at the game, look

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Speaker 1: at their beat. Oh chance to bet on this third down?

452
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Speaker 1: They're gonna get it. I mean, I just think it

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Speaker 1: it's an unnecessary distraction from what the actual game, the

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Speaker 1: competition that's taken place now. As we said, the numbers

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Speaker 1: show from the Seaton Hall poll at seventy one percent

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Speaker 1: of the folks say they'd be more likely to watch

457
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Speaker 1: a broadcast of a game upon which they bet. Those

458
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Speaker 1: numbers talk seventy one percent is big. If I've got

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Speaker 1: money on that game, I'm probably gonna watch it. Well,

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Speaker 1: if you're a network or a league, you're thinking, oh,

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Speaker 1: there's a way to get to keep our ratings going.

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Speaker 1: And I think they will respond to that. And so

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Speaker 1: that's why I think it's going in that direction. But

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Speaker 1: they also the same poll said legal betting can lead

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Speaker 1: to cheating or fixing of games by players or officials.

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Speaker 1: About eighty percent agree with that, and that alarms me.

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Speaker 1: And are we okay with that? That eighty percent of you,

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Speaker 1: you know, four out of five think if there's legal betting,

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Speaker 1: it could lead to a cheating, shaving points, making bad

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Speaker 1: calls by officials. Think that could happen. It could lead

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Speaker 1: to that. That alarm me. Anyway, what do you think

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Speaker 1: our Twitter poll if betting on NFL games is legalized

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Speaker 1: in New York State, will it lead to cheating? Vote

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Speaker 1: on our Twitter poll. Send us a tweet, we'll read

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Speaker 1: it on the are in the tweet sheet. Give us

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Speaker 1: a call. We'd love to discuss locally in Buffalo. Eight

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Speaker 1: oh three five fifty is the number to call outside

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Speaker 1: Buffalo toll free one eight eight eight two fifty. If

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Speaker 1: betting on NFL games is legalized in New York State

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Speaker 1: will lead to cheating. The early returns from the Twitter

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Speaker 1: poll about three hundred votes in so far, sixty four

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Speaker 1: percent say no, it won't okay, twenty six percent say yes,

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Speaker 1: it'll lead to cheating by officials. Ten percent say yes

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Speaker 1: it'll lead to cheating by players. I mean that's thirty

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Speaker 1: six percent. That's a little bit more than a third.

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Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, what does that belief And

487
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Speaker 1: we're just talking about perceptions here in this case, Steve,

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Speaker 1: what does that belief due to the belief in the game,

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Speaker 1: the integrity of the game, how do you feel about it?

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Speaker 1: I mean, if a third of respondense to our Twitter

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Speaker 1: our Twitter pole think that if there's legalized gambling it'll

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Speaker 1: lead to cheating, that's a third of the people who

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Speaker 1: might be fans thinking I don't know about this game.

494
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 1: I wonder if that drop pass was real. I wonder

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00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 1: if that penalty call was influenced by something else by betting.

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Speaker 1: That's not good to have that sort of doubt about

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Speaker 1: the game on the field. It's not at all I agree,

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Speaker 1: But I do know this. I have a hard time

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Speaker 1: seeing the atmosphere in the NFL as being anything but competitive.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think that type of attitude with the

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Speaker 1: vetting process that these guys and we're talking about it

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Speaker 1: every day, this draft process and these guys and the

503
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Speaker 1: scrutiny they're under. What does what does you know? Occur?

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00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 1: To me? Is Who've got this big topic in the

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Speaker 1: US about college athletes not getting paid and the march

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Speaker 1: madness is on. That's a much more fertile ground for

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Speaker 1: corruptness than professional athletics. And the problem would be this.

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Speaker 1: If you got a college, got a bunch of college kids,

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Speaker 1: and you got these kids that, yeah, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: play pro football, I don't think I'm gonna make it,

511
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Speaker 1: but I can made a big payday in this National

512
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Speaker 1: championship game by whatever you know, then you've got a problem.

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Speaker 1: Or if it is a star player and once they

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Speaker 1: hey you did it in college, how about now you

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Speaker 1: know you did it once in your college for us?

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Speaker 1: Remember in the bowl game in the Sun Bowl where

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Speaker 1: you ABC and D we did all this stuff, and

518
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Speaker 1: we made a lot of money from it. Let's do

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Speaker 1: it now in the pros. Well that now you're down

520
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Speaker 1: the road, and that's to me is an issue as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if New York State legalizes gambling, which some form may

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Speaker 1: even occur this weekend before the state budget adoption in

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Speaker 1: April first, If New York State legalizes gambling, will it

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Speaker 1: lead to cheating? From the tweet sheet from Big Multi,

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Speaker 1: he or she, Big Multi says no, If it did happen,

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Speaker 1: it would have to be by the refs. If players

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Speaker 1: are shaving, I dropping passes, missing tackles, they get benched.

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Speaker 1: The refs are too professional and have too much to

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Speaker 1: lose to engage in that. So I say no, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I accept that. Yeah, I don't know if I necessarily

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Speaker 1: agree with it, but I accept it. Here is Craig

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Speaker 1: and Rochester. Hello Craig. What do you think? Hey, what's

533
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Speaker 1: going on? Guys? Not much? Yeah, just a couple quick points.

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Speaker 1: I mean one, I agree that you know, in NC

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Speaker 1: DOUBLEA it might be a little bit of an issue

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Speaker 1: because those those kids aren't getting paid. As far as

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Speaker 1: pro sports, I think you know how large the salaries are,

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Speaker 1: you know, players making millions and millions of dollars, or

539
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Speaker 1: some bookie or somebode who approaches them and saying, hey,

540
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Speaker 1: can you throw this game or shape some points for

541
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Speaker 1: an extra you know what, five, ten, twenty grand, even

542
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: fifty grands, right, they're just gonna throw their nose up

543
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 1: at it. That's nothing, you know. And then as far

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Speaker 1: as the all the artificial intelligence that that's you know,

545
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: in place, if there's an anonymally he's on a game

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Speaker 1: where you know, there's all this money going on one side,

547
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Speaker 1: they're going to be able to pick that up very

548
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: quickly and be able to police that. So I think

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Speaker 1: that's where as fans, the players getting paid so much

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Speaker 1: money and professional sports that we don't have to worry

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Speaker 1: about them kind of shaving points because they're making gobs

552
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Speaker 1: and gobs of money. You know, look at Mike Trout,

553
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: you know, four hundred and thirty million dollars, you know,

554
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's ridiculous. So yeah, I hear

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Speaker 1: what you're saying, Greig, and I don't disagree. But in

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Speaker 1: this Seaton Hall poll of folks say that it will

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Speaker 1: it could lead can lead to a cheating or fixing

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Speaker 1: of games. So the eighty percent of the people disagree

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00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: with you, basically saying, yeah, if there's legal betting, and

560
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: again it's not just an NFL thing, which is the

561
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Speaker 1: focus of our poll, but if there's legal betting, eighty

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Speaker 1: percent of respondents think it could lead to a cheating.

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00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 1: That's one of the things as well. We are talking

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Speaker 1: about these players making a lot of money, and the

565
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: easiest thing for law enforcement to do is follow the money.

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00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: When big chunks of money are are being moved and

567
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: the lines move in these betting houses and all of

568
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: this stuff, they notice and they get to the bottom

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Speaker 1: of it. They keep track of it. So if somebody listen,

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Speaker 1: for instance, he's talking about a guy who can really

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Speaker 1: affect the game, say a quarterback. You got a guy

572
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Speaker 1: like Peyton Manning who's making twenty five million dollars a year.

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00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: How much money is it going to cost you to

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Speaker 1: get him to move the needle in one way or

575
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 1: the other in that game. Well, somebody's going to notice

576
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: that amount of money. He's not gonna do it for

577
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: five grand. He can make twenty grand sitting for two

578
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 1: hours signing autographs. Why would he? Why would he do

579
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: that for you know whatever? For that. You know, it's

580
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: gonna take a lot of money to make these guys

581
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: move the needle, and it's gonna take more than one

582
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 1: guy because there's you know, you're talking your analogy about

583
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Speaker 1: the kicker. They pay him whatever amount of money to

584
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: move the needle, and he may never get the chance

585
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 1: to do it. They gotta make if they're gonna put

586
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 1: their money on it, they gotta make sure there's somebody

587
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: who can affect it. Right. Well, yeah, that's where you

588
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: get to more than one. Yeah, right then, I hope

589
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 1: there's as many safeguards as you in the last caller think.

590
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. I hope you guys are right. Look,

591
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: I don't want legal gambling. I don't want sports gambling.

592
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: I don't want it in the stadium, in the casino,

593
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: on the phone, I don't want it on the internet.

594
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: I don't want legal sports gambling in New York State.

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00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: But it looks like it might be trending in that direction,

596
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: and we're getting a sense from folks if it is legalized,

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00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: will it lead to cheating fixing games? Tony from New

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Speaker 1: York City on the line. Hello, Tony, you're on the air. Hey, Yeah,

599
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Speaker 1: good afternoon, guys. I just see a situation coming up

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Speaker 1: over time where I don't think it's going to be

601
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: people trying to make money off of it. I think

602
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: it's going to be people trying to get out of

603
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: a tough situation. Like you mentioned earlier, somebody wraps up

604
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: a ton of debt. They have a family, family member

605
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: who's a player or a coach or a wrap and

606
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: then they put pressure on them to say, Hey, like,

607
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: I'm in a bad situation. You know, I need you

608
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 1: to make sure this happens. It's not gonna be you know,

609
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: point spreads and stuff like that that's too hard to control.

610
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: But you know it's gonna be you know, one of

611
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: those in game bats where I need this to happen

612
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: at this time, or it's gonna be you know stuff.

613
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think it's going to be in

614
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: the professional level, but I think it's much more likely

615
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: to happen in the minor leagues and the college level

616
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: and not necessarily football, but the other sports. Um whereas

617
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: it's a little easier to control an outcome. Yeah, I

618
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: mean I get that. Let's let's face it, if if

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Speaker 1: it was one of the for instance, if it was

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Speaker 1: one of the principles. A coach, a player, an official

621
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Speaker 1: or whatever, who who is in the hole like that. Um,

622
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: that's hard to particularly if it's a reputable gaming establishment.

623
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Speaker 1: One of the one of the groundwork protocols they put

624
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: in place to keep track of that stuff. Those guys

625
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: can't keep that a secret. That's so that then then

626
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do. So you know, I'm saying

627
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: it's going to be somebody's family or friend. That's that's

628
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: that's there related to UM that's going to come to

629
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: them and say, hey, I'm in a really bad spot.

630
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: I need you to help me out. You know, it's

631
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: like somebody's son, like, well they might do that now,

632
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: well yeah, yeah, let me do that now, just because

633
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: it's legal. If they can get into hold, people get

634
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: in the whole now. And it's not over gambling, you

635
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: know that. I mean, so that that's no different than

636
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: it is now. Yeah, except that legal gambling, I believe,

637
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: And this is where the difference comes. Legal gambling will

638
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: be make gambling more mainstream, more prevalent, There'll be more

639
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Speaker 1: of it, There'll be more people wagering on games once

640
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: it's legal, right, I think you have and the law

641
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: of averages says that some that's gonna across the line.

642
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: It's gonna cross the line somewhere. We're gonna take a

643
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: break here. We'll talk more about this throughout the afternoon.

644
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: We've got great cosal coming up at one o'clock from

645
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: ESPN NFL matchup. Coming up next, we've got Lorenzo Alexander.

646
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: The Lowdown is back this Friday. We'll talk with Lorenzo

647
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: when we return. Come on back One Bill's Live. There's

648
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: very boy allaid of health from One Bill's Drive. This

649
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bills Radio Drive the John Murphy with Steve

650
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: Tasker here until three this afternoon. Please do that. Welcome

651
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: back John Murphy, Steve Tasker and Lorenzo Alexander with the

652
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: Lowdown this Friday, this off season Friday, Bill's lineback to

653
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexander and shooting with us. Hello, Lorenzo, Well think

654
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: the show. What's going on? Fellas? How you guys doing.

655
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: Have you've been out of town in time? I've been.

656
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: I've been here. You know you'll see me if you

657
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: walk through the field House there from about eleven to one,

658
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: twelve thirties one. You know, I'm normally working out, getting

659
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: it in, getting ready for April fourteenth or fifteenth. I

660
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,959
Speaker 1: guess it's when we come back. I see you in there.

661
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys are coming down parachuting. And

662
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: I saw White in here the other day. White Dean

663
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: Marlowe's been in Robert Thomas's back and I met Mitch

664
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: Morse today. Mitch Morris is in here. Mitch Morse is

665
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: a giant's big man. Big Yeah for a center. I

666
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: mean especially this day and age. You think they're a

667
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: little bit smaller, the short so the quarterback and see

668
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: over them right, Yeah, so's he's Mitch Morse is big. Yeah,

669
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: I'm excited. I like see like a great guy sit

670
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: up and said hi to him, and he was excited

671
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: about being part of it. Yeah, yeah, real excited. Really

672
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: likes the culture and um of Buffalo and has really started,

673
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: you know, getting out and went to one of our

674
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: I guess the player's favorite restaurant, the Grange other night

675
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: with Connor McDermott. Got some good eats over there, so

676
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: it really started to gackling made moving in with his

677
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: wife Caitlin I believe her name is. Has got to

678
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: meet her yesterday, so it's just a good time start

679
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:10,959
Speaker 1: to meet off the new guys. And by the way,

680
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: I want to say thank you to you. You know

681
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: what I do. You're good people over at west Or

682
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: you know, I see your face all the time, you know,

683
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: driving around the city and stuff. And they said, you

684
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: put a good word in for me. So I haven't

685
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: meeting with them next week. The formance they threw in, yeah,

686
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: aup of coffee, like everybody got a coffee station over there,

687
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: help yourself. Yeah. It ends up one thing about the

688
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: signing and I think it was fourteen signings of NFL

689
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 1: veterans since uh really free and she began by the

690
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. The last couple have been special teams focused, right, Yeah,

691
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: sonars Perry yesterday we had him on the show yesterday,

692
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: great guy talking about how he was looking forward to

693
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: meeting you. But uh, Maurice moo, Alexander yeah, my brother man. No,

694
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: not really good. YEA focus on special teams, yeah, you

695
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: gotta have that on every team, any team that's going

696
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,479
Speaker 1: to be a good team. We talk about complimentary football office.

697
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: Defense obviously gets a lot of the highlights in all

698
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: of the analysts, but special teams is definitely a phase

699
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: of the game that sets up those those other phases

700
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: in offensive defense, and you gotta have three or four

701
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 1: guys out there that played pretty much primarily special teams

702
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: and do it at a high level. And if you

703
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: look at the good teams around the league, they normally have,

704
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: you know, three to four guys. You know, I look

705
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 1: right up in New England, you see a guy like

706
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: Matthew Slater Abner. Their Pro Bowl caliber players, and that's

707
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: all they really do, and they might spring them in

708
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: on offensive defense from time to time, but their primary

709
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: job is to go out there and be Pro bowlers

710
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: in the special teams phase. At this stage of your career,

711
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: are you a core special teamer anymore? No, I mean,

712
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,240
Speaker 1: just because my role and how it's grown on defense,

713
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,280
Speaker 1: I just can't do both like I did in sixteen.

714
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: It's just too much wear and tear to go out

715
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: there and try to play elite in both phases. So

716
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 1: right now I'm primarily on punt because that's such a

717
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: critical part of the game, and so they still want

718
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: to utilize and experience there. So if you can't give

719
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: up block punts, you know, I mean covering kicks though

720
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 1: that's probably the most stressful play for a special teams coach. Yeah,

721
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: the coach, Yeah, exactly. It always has been, even when

722
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: kickoffs were yeah, like it used to be, right. Yeah.

723
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: One of the reasons we wanted to have you on

724
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: as well. And one of the things you're involved in

725
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: is the is the union, the collective bargaining agreement now

726
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 1: has to come out that the union in the league

727
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: are going to start sitting down in substantive ways and

728
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: start start to hammer out a new agreement. And then

729
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: I don't want to argue subtleties, but the union they

730
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: want a new agreement. They don't want an extension of

731
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: this one. Uh, there's some fundamental things that need to change,

732
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 1: and I was going to ask you what are those?

733
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's a lot of things. You know,

734
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: obviously when we kind of poll our guys from around

735
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,439
Speaker 1: the league, um, and what's different from the owner side

736
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: is that we have guys that are first year guys

737
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: and guys that are fifteen years in the game like

738
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: myself and sold their priorities are the priorities are extremely difference.

739
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: Where I may be worried about more benefits and life

740
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: after football, medical medical care and what that looks like

741
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: and with my fall in one k, A guy that

742
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: got drafted like your Davis may be worried about the

743
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: fifth year option, you know, and getting rid of some

744
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: of the restrictions. So it always comes down to three

745
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: buckets when I really look at it comes down to

746
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: work environment and work rules as far as you know,

747
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: the padded practices and things of that nature that works

748
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 1: to players safety. Comes down to control what I just mentioned,

749
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: like restrictions. When do I become a free agent? When

750
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: can I negotiate myself? And then it comes down I'm

751
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: probably the one that you know the bigger things too,

752
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: is the money. What is the split of the revenues

753
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: that we all bring in as partners, players and owners?

754
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: What does that What does that split look like? They

755
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: they're talking about beginning the initial talks in the next

756
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: couple of weeks here early April. Is this the right time?

757
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: I mean the contract the CBA still has two more

758
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: seasons to run through nineteen and twenty. Right, Uh yeah,

759
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: two season nineteen to twenty. I mean I think it is.

760
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: It's a business decision, right because TV deals are starting

761
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: to come up. You got to renew those, and they

762
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: want to be able to go to the networks and

763
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 1: reassure them that there won't be a work stoppage, which

764
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: we don't know at this time if they will or

765
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 1: will not be one, but you have to assume, you know,

766
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: based on what happened last time, that there will be one.

767
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 1: So from an NFL perspect if you want to start

768
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 1: it early as possible, maybe you get something going and

769
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,439
Speaker 1: say and tell the networks, hey, we got this thing going.

770
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: Things are going, well, let's sign those TV deals that

771
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: go beyond the you know, past to twenty twenty one

772
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 1: season whenever they fall out. So you definitely want to

773
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: work earlier because I mean, it's two natural sides and

774
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: we're going to be on different ends, and you gotta

775
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: need as much time I think to get things right

776
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: at the end of the day. So it's always good,

777
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: I think to start early. Do you plan on spending

778
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: time on this either as an active player or even

779
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 1: after your career Endy you think of playing major role

780
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 1: in the needs to go Chick, Well, I'll definitely be involved,

781
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: m you know, as it goes on. I'm an executive

782
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: committee members, so I'll be a part of the talks

783
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: and discussions as a representative of the union. But it's

784
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: we have you know, thirty two board members as well. Um,

785
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: I think pator Marco is one of ours. The end

786
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 1: of the day, those guys that are are voting reps

787
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: wall have the ultimate decision or whether or not we

788
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: take whatever deal is on the table. Um, you know,

789
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: kind of moving forward now, One of the things that

790
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: happened in the last time they redid this was twenty eleven,

791
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: the CBA and the players gave up four percent of

792
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: the total revenue. They went from fifty one percent of

793
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 1: the money to forty seven percent of the money. Yeah,

794
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: and they got some things in event, they got some

795
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: things in return. And still right, and what numbers, you know,

796
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 1: you move numbers around, right, So if you talk to

797
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: an accountant, you say you gave up four percent, it

798
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: really wasn't because just the way it is. I don't

799
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: want to get into the new in other ways, because yeah,

800
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: but total it used to be total revenue, so the

801
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 1: owners used before he used to take a billion dollars

802
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: off the top before we even started giving up money.

803
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: So the percentages are a little bit different. Now it's

804
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: all revenue where they don't get that cut off the top.

805
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: And we take our cut off of everything, and so

806
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: we didn't really give up four percent. It looks like that,

807
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: but you know, so when you talk about it, it's

808
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: just not It wasn't apples to apples. Just the way

809
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 1: the accounting used to be done. That million dollars used

810
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: to be like that. They called for like stadium credits. Right,

811
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: it was unlimited, right, so the players would have the

812
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: players would have some skin in the game for the

813
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: facilities that they played in. The players were giving up

814
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: some stuff so the league could renovate stadiums, build new stadiums, right,

815
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: because ostensibly to increase revenue. Revenue, right, We still do that,

816
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: but we've capped it now in the new system. It

817
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 1: used to be unlimited pretty much. They could take whatever

818
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: they wanted to off the top and there really was

819
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: no bottom. Now it's capped at one and a half percent,

820
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: which is another issue they have because they've already used

821
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: them up. You have you know obviously, La, you have Vegas.

822
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: I know here here we want to do a stadium

823
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: who just Minnesota just finished Atlanta because these stadiums are

824
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: pro rated out fifteen years. So you got stadiums that

825
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: came on you know, ten years ago that are still

826
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: counted against that one and a half percent, So I

827
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 1: know that's something that they want to talk about. Hey,

828
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about a couple of things

829
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: you involved. You you got you got something going on

830
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 1: in the next couple of minutes here, right, you're speaking

831
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: to a veterans group or talked to it. Yeah, yeah,

832
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: just talking to a veterans group. Megan has from our

833
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: community relationship. They do a great job here as far

834
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 1: as it's interacting with the community. And they reached out

835
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: to me last night to go and kind of go

836
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: hang out with our vents, and I'm here, so of

837
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: course I'm gonna go and spend some time and talk

838
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: to them, and they probably impacted me more than me

839
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: showing up and talking. Now just have to do with

840
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: your ACIS Foundation. No, this is the bills for them.

841
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: Some around is helping out. So it's all about helping

842
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: each other out because they do a great job of

843
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 1: serving me with the stuff that I do in the

844
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 1: community on my home. But your ACIS Foundation, you're getting

845
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: close to approaching your annual Buffalo bowling event, which is

846
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 1: what June nineteen did they see we are as June

847
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,919
Speaker 1: and you threw me off with the nineteen. It's June eighth,

848
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: June as is gonna be as Strikers. Um yeah, yeah,

849
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,479
Speaker 1: it's up right now. You can register at fifty seven bucks,

850
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: same thing as last year. I have a link on

851
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: that you can kind of get a feel of what

852
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: it was last year. I want to say we had

853
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: about fifteen to twenty guys come out, kind of hang

854
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: out bowl with guys sign autographs. Um. It was just

855
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: a great time. Um, and we had it, we had

856
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: it packed and it was really fun. So you can

857
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: go to my website Lorenzo Alexander dot org, click on

858
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: the pitch at the top of the screen. Should be

859
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: the first picture that pops up, and you can register

860
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: a team up to seven people, you know, invite all

861
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 1: your family. Yeah yeah, And I'll be giving out pride,

862
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 1: so if you had the best team out there, you'll

863
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 1: get a nice little picture of me second Tom Brady,

864
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: a nice little team trophy as well, and we'll have

865
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: some cool little side and auction items. I'll be you know,

866
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: raffling tickets to games and hopefully we get another primetime

867
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: game because last year I gave away two tickets to

868
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 1: the Monday Nighter. Excellent. Hey, um, we talked about the

869
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: free agent signings of bills have gone through about fourteen

870
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: or so in the last couple of weeks, and of

871
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: course a lot of focus on how desirable to place

872
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: Buffalo is, you know, the Antonio Brown stuff. Did you

873
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 1: happen to see Sean mcdermot's comments from earlier this week

874
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: in Phoenix? Yeah? Yeah, And I actually I think I

875
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: retweeted in yeah and kind of added, you know, because yeah, yeah,

876
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: go ahead, let's play him. And I want to get

877
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,439
Speaker 1: Lorenzo's take on this because you did retweet it. Here's

878
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: Sean McDermot earlier this week about the narrative about attracting

879
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 1: free agents to Buffalo. Perception of reality not always the same. Right,

880
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 1: spend a day, spend a week in Buffalo, get around

881
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: the people, get around the city, get around the energy

882
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: in our city. And people that say that, in my opinion,

883
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: haven't spent that time and really maybe don't want to

884
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: spend that time. So to me, that's on them. Right.

885
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: In the time that I've been in Buffalo, my family

886
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: has been in Buffalo. I mean, I didn't realize how

887
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 1: important fit was when I was going through the interview

888
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,919
Speaker 1: process with the different teams to become a head coach.

889
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: I am very grateful to have ended up and this

890
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: is gonna be said of all thirty two teams in

891
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: Buffalo with the Bills because of the fit, and because

892
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: of the people, and because of the tradition. So what

893
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: more could you ask for from a city that football? Football,

894
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: to me is important to the city of Buffalo, And

895
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 1: that's not the case in every city. So people want

896
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: to pump palm trees and this and that, and weather

897
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: and this and that. Come to Buffalo where football is

898
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: important to the people. McDermott from a couple of days ago,

899
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: why was it important to you to retweet that? What

900
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: did you like there? Because I feel the same exact way,

901
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: And you know, obviously, I think I was on the

902
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: other end of that spectrum at one point in time.

903
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: And it's more of an ignorance because I'm a Californian boy,

904
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: and you hear about Buffalo, and all you really associate

905
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: with Buffalo is cold weather, and so that's the first thing. Yeah, yeah,

906
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: And that's the first thing that people think about, you know.

907
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: But even when I think about when I decided to

908
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: come up here, you know, calling guys like Lendon Fletcher,

909
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,439
Speaker 1: Deared Dockery and some other guys that I know around

910
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: the league that have been up here that they love

911
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: the experience. And it made my decision to sign that

912
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: much easier because I knew other guys that I trusted,

913
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: that really understood what I was looking for and vouch

914
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: for this city and organization. And I would say it's

915
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: probably even gotten better, you know, since the Pagoulas are

916
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: taken over all the stuff we're doing in the organizational wise,

917
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: the city or this team is getting better. And then

918
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: you couple that with a with a great city and

919
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: a great environment with great people, it's going to be

920
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: a destination. I mean, I think people once you start winning,

921
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: people are definitely gonna just want to latch on anyway

922
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: from the outside because people here that live in Buffalo,

923
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: they breathe it, they eat it. I mean, so yeah,

924
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: I think that we're just going to start changing it

925
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: as we win, because then we'll give more national attention

926
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: to what the city brings. So we've been sitting here

927
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: all day every day, what keeping track of all the

928
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: free agent signings, all fourteen of these guys, and you know,

929
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: and we've got. The draft is on the horizon and

930
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: you're sitting there and you see, you see the kind

931
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: of defense you had last year, you and largely intact,

932
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: maybe even strong, got EJ. Gaines back. I mean you,

933
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: I mean you look like the you know, real deal

934
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: on your side of the football, and you see all

935
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: the things they've done on the offensive side of these guys.

936
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,240
Speaker 1: Have you talked to in your team? What's your feeling?

937
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: Because I know Murph and I are like, you know,

938
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: we're thinking, Wow, this is awesome. It looks like this

939
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: team is like has done everything right. There is that

940
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: you guys reflect that optimism. That is the sense that

941
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: I have. And you know, guys that I've been talking

942
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,280
Speaker 1: around here, you know, my job is to get guys

943
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: to think big and think about winning a championship, not

944
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: just getting to the playoffs. And so I feel that

945
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 1: the people that we've brought in can help us get

946
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: over that hump and get into the playoffs on an

947
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: annual basis. What I want to make sure that doesn't happen.

948
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: And you see this kind of in the history of

949
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 1: of how our league has worked. You get good that

950
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: first year, you make it to the playoffs, and you

951
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: almost shock yourself, like, man, we were good and you

952
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 1: lose in maybe the second round. I don't want that

953
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: to happen to us because most of the times, like

954
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: you think about the Rams or the Seattle Seahawks, or

955
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: even like the Denver Broncos, they get there, they lose,

956
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: and then the next year they get back and win it. Well,

957
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: obviously I'm at a point, and really everybody in the

958
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: league is at a point because you don't know what

959
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: next year holds for you. Take advantage of this opportunity

960
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: now winning. Now, let's not be shocked when we get there.

961
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: Let's expect and work to get there, and when we

962
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: get there, win it. And so you got to have

963
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: that mindset and regardless of what the outside noise and

964
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: what people are gonna be looking at and try to

965
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: match you up. You know, everybody's looking at Cleveland and

966
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: what they're doing. You have to build a team. It's

967
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 1: not about just bringing every little shiny piece in. And

968
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: I really like the pieces that we're putting together, and

969
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: we're forming a football team. And now we got to

970
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: put the work in here in a couple of weeks

971
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 1: and really start growing that bond and going out there

972
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: and putting that work in, Lorenzo. Thanks good to catch

973
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: up with there. Let's get you back in here more.

974
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: We got players coming in a week or two. Yeah,

975
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: I know, you're just kick into the shot curb again.

976
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: You don't have new guys to talk to. It's all good.

977
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: It's all good. Murphy, seat you see it, Murdher, I'm

978
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: not talking about you. Steve Murphy was about to invite

979
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: me back and then thought, man, I don't want to

980
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: do that. We got we got some bigger names coming here. Yeah,

981
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: like a man, I enjoy it. I enjoyed coming to

982
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: hate out with Steve. You know Murphy's time. He's trying

983
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: to become my new Donalds a little bit. Don't have

984
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 1: fen skin. I just had to shrug it off. We're

985
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: back in the moment One Bills I drive on Buffalo

986
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 1: Bills Radio One's life from One Bills Drive, John Murphy,

987
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker minutes away from Great Coo South. You know,

988
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 1: you and I both had the experience of people are

989
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: costing us, coming up to us on the street, not

990
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: a costing, but talking to us about the show. Yeah,

991
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 1: over the last month or two, I bet no exaggeration

992
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: ten or fifteen people have specifically said that Great Cosell

993
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: is amazing. They love Greg Cosell on Fridays. Yeah, he's

994
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: guy the other day I have known for you're telling

995
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 1: me about it. Yeah, he's coming up by the way,

996
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: about five ten minute. Yeah, he's coming up with Tom

997
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: the Arb and he's you're right, he is good because

998
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 1: he he's articulate and he that's his thing. I like

999
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 1: talking to people who are good at it. It's their thing.

1000
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: He's passionate about it. And let me tell you something,

1001
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: You've got to be a different cat to want to

1002
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 1: sit in a dark room and watch film. Yeah, yeah, right,

1003
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: that's your thing. They evaluate these guys, They look at it.

1004
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,240
Speaker 1: They try and dissect what they do, what they're asked

1005
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: to do, what the other team is doing against them,

1006
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: and how they fare against and how is the best

1007
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 1: way to defend him. They get a sense of all

1008
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:48,439
Speaker 1: that stuff, and really the only reason is to share

1009
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,400
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1010
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00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,040
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00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,520
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1054
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:09,799
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00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,040
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1058
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,880
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Speaker 1: widely assumed he would run the defense after Matt Brian

1060
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: Flores left to go to the Miami Dolphins, but Ciano

1061
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: is done. In a surprising turn of events, Dallas Cowboys

1062
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 1: acquired defensive end Robert Quinn from the Dolphins yesterday for

1063
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: a sixth round draft pick in twenty twenty. He visited

1064
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: Dallas last week also met with the New Orleans Saints.

1065
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: He gets a one year deal with the Cowboys. The

1066
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: Eagles got the running back help they need by acquiring

1067
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: Jordan Howard from the Bears. Yet late yesterday, the Bears

1068
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: get a sixth round pick in twenty twenty that can

1069
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: become a fifth round pick depending on production. Howard played

1070
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,879
Speaker 1: three seasons with Chicago. He is twenty four years old.

1071
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: The NCAA Basketball Tournament continues tonight the Sweet sixteen with

1072
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 1: another night of four games. It's starts tonight at seven

1073
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: o'clock with LSU in Michigan State in the Sweet sixteen

1074
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: from the East Region. That game in Washington, DC at

1075
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: seven twenty nine. Tonight Auburn and North Carolina from the

1076
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: Midwest Region, that game in Kansas City, back to Washington

1077
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: for the late game Virginia Tech and top seed Duke

1078
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 1: that one about nine thirty nine, and then finishing up

1079
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 1: back in the Midwest Region in Kansas City it's University

1080
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: of Houston and second seed Kentucky Tonight. Four games in

1081
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: the Sweet sixteen. Tonight Sabers battled back they got a

1082
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: point anyway in their five four overtime loss to the

1083
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: Red Wings last night in Buffalo, kylac Poso, Marcos Gandela,

1084
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 1: Casey Middleston, and Jack Eichel scored for the Sabers. Achael's

1085
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: goal to one hundredth of his career. Victor Orlisson made

1086
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: his NHL debut last night, becoming the five hundred player

1087
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: ever to play for the Buffalo Sabers in the regular

1088
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: season or playoffs. Sabers play a couple of games this weekend. Tomorrow,

1089
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: the team takes on the Islanders seven o'clock at the

1090
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 1: brand new Nassau Coliseum. On Sunday, they're back home against Columbus.

1091
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: That's a six o'clock face up at Keybank Center. Steve

1092
00:51:58,160 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 1: Tansker will be there if you'd like to meet and Greek.

1093
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: You said, people are telling you I saw you the

1094
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,879
Speaker 1: game last night and they're tweeting at me. Yeah, Steve

1095
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 1: will be there. Are you going Sunday? I think so.

1096
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 1: He'll be in his seat. You know where he is

1097
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: coming down. Brant ice cream, I think, he said, is

1098
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 1: the only thing he eats at the game, soft serve

1099
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: ice cream. John Murphy was Steve Tasker hour number two

1100
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 1: of the show. We're getting ready for the Draft. It

1101
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: is now less than a month away, and we've got

1102
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: one of the pre eminent draft experts. A guy who

1103
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: just grinds the film, crunches film all day long. He

1104
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: is the executive producer and analyst for NFL Matchup on ESPN.

1105
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: Longtime senior producer in NFL films, Our buddy Greg Cosell

1106
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: on the line with us. Hello, Greg, it's John Murphy

1107
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: and Steve up here in Buffalo. Good to be with you.

1108
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 1: How you doing, Murf, Steve, how are you guys doing?

1109
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: Doing well? Steve was back from his African safari and

1110
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: happy to be back, I believe, aren't you? Steve? Absolutely

1111
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 1: very happy? Well good? Yeah? Hey, do you spend any

1112
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 1: time at all watching hoops during this basketball heavy season? Gregor?

1113
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,320
Speaker 1: Is an all draft prep for you? He's no, no, no, Murph.

1114
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: It's not like I worked twenty four hours a day. Oh,

1115
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: don't tell people that. Everybody think I don't watch every

1116
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: single game, But yeah, I watched some of it. I

1117
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: watched a good amount of the Tennessee Purdue game last night,

1118
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: which was an awesome game. Yeah, great game. Yeah yeah.

1119
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: What do you think? I mean, what are your thoughts

1120
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:13,359
Speaker 1: on how this is going to turn out? The basketball tournament? Yeah?

1121
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: Do you think who's gonna win? Oh, Steve, I'm not

1122
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 1: good at that stuff. That's just guessing. Anybody can guess.

1123
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: All right, Well, then okay, then you can beg off

1124
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: the hook for that if you want to. That's fine.

1125
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,879
Speaker 1: You are getting ready for the draft. It is four

1126
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,439
Speaker 1: weeks away. Four weeks from yesterday would have been around

1127
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 1: one of the draft. We're gonna talk to you a

1128
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,240
Speaker 1: lot about some of the defensive line prospects greg today,

1129
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: and we want to talk to you about Sean McDermott

1130
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,760
Speaker 1: and Brandon Bean went down to the University of Houston

1131
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: yesterday primarily we think to watch Oliver at Oliver. Did

1132
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 1: you see any of that? And what kind of a

1133
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:50,240
Speaker 1: prospect is he? Do you think he's a terrific prospect.

1134
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: He is. He's a little freakish. You didn't need his

1135
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: workout yesterday to know that. I think he's one of

1136
00:53:56,520 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 1: the most athletically explosive interior d lineman and I've ever

1137
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: seen on tape. He's got an off the charts profile

1138
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: of foot quickness, agility, fluidity, explosion, hand usage. Plus he's

1139
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:14,280
Speaker 1: very very competitive. So you know, the only concerned people

1140
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: might have is his weight. I know people have started

1141
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: to talk about a position change. I think in today's

1142
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 1: NFL he can certainly be a three technique that's probably

1143
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,760
Speaker 1: his best position. I think he probably needs some technique

1144
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: work when it comes to rushing the quarterback. I don't

1145
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 1: think he's a natural at that. But as far as

1146
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 1: his athletic and physical traits, they're truly off the chart.

1147
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: Sometimes he looks like a running back playing defensive tackle. Yeah,

1148
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: and he weighs. He was at the combine. He was

1149
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: two eighty seven yesterday. His Pro day was two eighty one.

1150
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: He's got freakish numbers. He's thirty six inch vertical jump,

1151
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: bench press, thirty two reps at two hundred and twenty

1152
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 1: five pounds. He's got he's long arms, he's only six two.

1153
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 1: Is that yeah, prototypical or is that he seems just

1154
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: you said, a little hair undersized. There are shorter three techniques,

1155
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,879
Speaker 1: as you know, Steve, you know, obviously the comparison would

1156
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 1: be Aaron Donald. Oliver is not the intuitive, innate pass

1157
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 1: rusher that Aaron Donald is by any means, He's not

1158
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: a natural. There's Geno Atkins with the Cincinnati Bengals who's

1159
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,399
Speaker 1: very short as well and has had a really good

1160
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 1: career as a three technique. So there are examples of

1161
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: shorter three techniques. You get into the weight issue. He

1162
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,320
Speaker 1: probably weighed two eighty seven at the Combine to allay

1163
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: some fears about his weight. But he probably plays I

1164
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 1: would guess at between two seventy five and two eighty,

1165
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: So I would ask you, Steve, you think you can

1166
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 1: be a three technique in the NFL playing at that weight, Well,

1167
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: you can be, but with a freakish athletic ability like

1168
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,320
Speaker 1: he has. Yeah, but let's face it, he would have

1169
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 1: to be like that to do it, I think, right.

1170
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: I mean, he's going to be up against some pretty

1171
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: massive human beings. He's going to have to have something

1172
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: to counter everything for them, so he could do it.

1173
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,919
Speaker 1: I mean, do you think he's a top ten pick

1174
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: in the NFL draft kind of talent? Yeah? I do,

1175
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 1: And I think that the nature of the game, and obviously,

1176
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 1: while he's not a great pass rusher at this point,

1177
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 1: he certainly has the physical traits to develop into one.

1178
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: I think with the quicker passing games, the greater emphasis

1179
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: now on inside pressure from the defense, I think that

1180
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: that position d tackle has become, particularly if you can

1181
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: rush the quarterback, very very important, because you really want

1182
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: to be able to pressure up the middle and impact

1183
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: the quarterback quicker as opposed to the edge rush. And

1184
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 1: I'm not suggesting people don't want an edge rusher, but

1185
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 1: I think that people are definitely looking more than ever

1186
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 1: at inside pass rushers. Well, let's talk about a different

1187
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 1: let's change channels a little before we change channels, just

1188
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: to cut right to the chase. Greg, you know, the

1189
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 1: bills are trying to replace Kyle Williams. Oliver looked like

1190
00:56:58,160 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: a guy who can handle that job. Step right now

1191
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: and replaced Kyle Williams. I mean he certainly, you know,

1192
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 1: fits the profile and a four man defensive front. And

1193
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 1: by the way, how tall is Kyle Williams, right, Kyle

1194
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 1: william he was not sixty three or six four, I

1195
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: don't believe. So, you know, again it comes down to

1196
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: the weight. But the traits are ridiculous. They're off the

1197
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: charts in terms of his athletic profile. And believe me,

1198
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 1: his tape is very, very good too. It's not as

1199
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 1: if he just has great traits and no tape. The

1200
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 1: tape is really really good. Well, another guy that's at

1201
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: the top of the list is a guy Quinnon Williams

1202
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 1: out of Alabama. He's a little tally sixty three and

1203
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 1: he does weigh three hundred pounds. Compare the two is

1204
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: this is Quinn and Williams a better guy inside at

1205
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 1: the pro level than then Oliver m They have different games.

1206
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: I think Williams is also very deceptively athletic. Um you know,

1207
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 1: I think that Williams plays a little bit more of

1208
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 1: a power game than at Oliver. Although I wouldn't call

1209
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 1: Williams He's not an Adminican Sue in terms of power.

1210
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: He's not quite at that level of just methodical, relentless

1211
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: power that someone like Sue was in his prime. But

1212
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: Williams is really deceptive. I mean, you keep watching him

1213
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: and watching him, and he just beats guys. He's got

1214
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: really terrific hand usage. He's got very strong hands, you know,

1215
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 1: and he was very effective with an arm over moved

1216
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 1: the swim move, he locks out, he controls, he displaces,

1217
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: interior alignment. He consistently wins at the point of attack

1218
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 1: in the run game. His quickness off the ball is

1219
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: really good. I mean, he's a really good prospect as well.

1220
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: He's not as explosive a mover as at Oliver, but

1221
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: very few will be. Quinn Williams is likely to be

1222
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: chosen ahead of it Oliver. I would think in the

1223
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 1: first round, wouldn't you, Greg, That would be my guests.

1224
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: It'll be interesting. I guess it seems to be shaping

1225
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 1: up based on everything you read that Kyler Murray will

1226
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: be one and then the Niners at two. You know,

1227
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 1: I guess it depends on what they want to do.

1228
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 1: They signed d Ford, they have DeForrest Buckner as an

1229
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: inside player who's very very good. I guess people now

1230
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 1: are assuming it's between Quinn and Williams and Nick Bosa. Yeah.

1231
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 1: One of the things I wanted to ask you about

1232
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 1: as well is when Murph went to the Senior Bowl,

1233
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 1: a guy that caught his eye was a guy named

1234
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 1: Montes Sweat out of Mississippi State. But there's also another guy.

1235
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: There's Jeffrey Simmons, who's a defensive tackle, and you have

1236
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 1: Montes Sweat, who's an edge russer, Jeffrey Simmons, who's an

1237
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 1: interior guy. Actually, Simmons is actually as a defensive tackle

1238
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 1: is rated a little bit higher than Montes Sweat. What

1239
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:54,439
Speaker 1: can you tell us about the two Mississippi State defensive linemen. Well,

1240
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 1: Simmons is coming off the ACL, but I really like

1241
00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:00,120
Speaker 1: Simmons Now. To me, Simmons was a little more are

1242
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: of a natural pass rusher than at Oliver. I think

1243
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 1: Simmons has a pretty complete skill set for a defensive tackle.

1244
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 1: I think you could line him up at three technique.

1245
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 1: I think you'd line him up at one technique. I

1246
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 1: really like Simmons. He was really good in the run game.

1247
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 1: He controlled and displaced offensive lineman with his hand usage

1248
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 1: is strained to me. He has all the traits and

1249
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 1: attributes you look for in a defensive tackle. So you know,

1250
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 1: Simmons to me. And I watched both these guys last summer,

1251
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: Oliver and Simmons before this particular season, and I came

1252
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 1: away believing that Simmons was just a more natural pass rusher.

1253
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 1: So I guess, look, Oliver is so freakish athletically that

1254
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 1: people are gonna just say, hey, you gotta take Oliver.

1255
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 1: But you know, when Simmons is coming off the ACL

1256
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 1: so that will impact his draft status. You get to

1257
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 1: sweat sweats an intriguing guy. Obviously, his measurables were off

1258
01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 1: the charts at the combine at six six sixty he

1259
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 1: ran a four four one forty yard dash and his

1260
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: ten yards split was one point five, which is ridiculous

1261
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 1: for a two hundred and sixty pound man. You know,

1262
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 1: I think he's got a lot of power in his hands.

1263
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: I think he's he can punch. He clearly improved from

1264
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen to twenty eighteen. I think there's a little

1265
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 1: stiffness to his movement, though, Steve, you know, he's not

1266
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Speaker 1: a bender. He's more of a power, speed to power guy,

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Speaker 1: and you can be very, very successful doing that, but

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Speaker 1: he's not, to me, a flexible guy on the line

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Speaker 1: with Greg Cosell, Executive producer, analyst NFL Matchup on ESPN,

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Speaker 1: Senior producer at NFL Films, going through some of the

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Speaker 1: defensive line prospects in the draft a month away. I

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Speaker 1: got one more defensive tackle to ask you about, Greg,

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Speaker 1: and that's the Clemson guy, Christian Wilkins. What do you

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Speaker 1: see from him? What do you like about him? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I really like Christian Wilkins. I mean, here's a guy.

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Speaker 1: The more I watched, the more I really really liked.

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Speaker 1: He's an excellent run to end. He's really athletic. He

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Speaker 1: makes a ton of plays down the line of scrimmage

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Speaker 1: outside the tackle box. He was featured a lot in

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Speaker 1: different stunt concepts at Clemson, and he was really effective

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Speaker 1: as both the picker and the looper. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I think that he's an athletic guy. That's his game.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's a power guy. Um, I think

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Speaker 1: he's an athletic, range kind of player. So now you

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Speaker 1: get into does it fit your front because he's I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's not, let's say, a two gap player. You're not

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Speaker 1: gonna ask him to battle offensive guards and you know,

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Speaker 1: try to two gap them and play off them. He's

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Speaker 1: more of a mover and a range guy and an athlete.

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Speaker 1: But I really liked him on tape. Yeah, this is

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Speaker 1: a guy that earned his Clemson degree in two and

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Speaker 1: a half years. Um, So honestly, he's got some he's

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Speaker 1: got some commitment in the classroom, and he's a good

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Speaker 1: head on his shoulders. Yeah, that's a He's a pretty

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Speaker 1: intriguing prospect to me because of the you know, he's

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Speaker 1: had some off the field issues, but not too much

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Speaker 1: of it points right at him. I mean, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, He's he's made the most of his

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Speaker 1: opportunity at Clemson. It seems to be on the right track. Hey,

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Speaker 1: let me ask you Greg about Nick Bosa, who you

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Speaker 1: mentioned earlier. He is on some draft boards, you know,

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Speaker 1: a top three four pick. H Yeah, does he belong

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Speaker 1: up there? And how much of a difference maker might

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Speaker 1: he be in the NFL well, I think is he

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Speaker 1: presents as a high level edge rusher as you transition

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Speaker 1: him to the league, and he also gives you the

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Speaker 1: versatility to play inside at DP tackle in your sub fronts.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's got an explosive first step on the edge,

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Speaker 1: especially when he's aligned wide. He can clear the edge

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Speaker 1: and flatten with speed to the quarterback. There's an explosiveness

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Speaker 1: to his movement, very much like his brother. He's got

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Speaker 1: speed to power. I think he uses his hands extremely well.

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Speaker 1: He can playoff contact, and that's one thing, as Steve knows,

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Speaker 1: you've got to be able to do as a pass

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Speaker 1: rusher because you are going to get blocked, So you

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Speaker 1: have to be able to play off contact with quick

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Speaker 1: and strategic hand usage, upper body strength, which he has.

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Speaker 1: He really understands the leverage game. So I really like

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Speaker 1: Nick Bosa. You know, I think that he's like his brother.

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Speaker 1: I think he's a really really good prospect. Question for you, Greg,

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Speaker 1: what do you mean when you say speed to power?

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Speaker 1: What a scouts and football people mean when they say

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Speaker 1: that the ability to come off the ball quickly and

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Speaker 1: then get right into the chest of an offensive tackle.

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Speaker 1: So you start with speed off the ball and explosiveness

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Speaker 1: off the ball, and then you turn it to power

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Speaker 1: by getting right into the chest of the offensive tackle

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Speaker 1: and you're able then to either play off him or

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Speaker 1: drive him right back into the pocket. That's speed to power.

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Speaker 1: One thing I want to ask you about, do you

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Speaker 1: think which one of these prospects that we've talked about,

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Speaker 1: either a defensive tackle, how many of them or all

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Speaker 1: of them or whatever are gonna come in and they

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Speaker 1: all have the ability to step right in and start

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Speaker 1: for whatever team drafts them. Do most of them? I mean,

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Speaker 1: the way defensive line works in the NFL now is

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Speaker 1: kind of a rotation anyway. But yeah, it's a guy

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Speaker 1: like Bosa or Quinnin Williams or any of these other guys,

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Speaker 1: you know, Christian Wilkins, any of these guys going to

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Speaker 1: be a guy who's surprised a lot of people and

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Speaker 1: comes in and really jumps in their first year, or

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Speaker 1: any of these guys have that capability. I think some

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Speaker 1: do you know, I would expect Bosa will come in

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Speaker 1: and again now it Steve, It comes down to number

1345
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 1: of snaps, because as you said, there's rotations, there's sub packages.

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01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 1: You know, you could talk about a player playing twenty

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Speaker 1: two snaps a game and being a really critical piece

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Speaker 1: of a defense. You know, I think the days for

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Speaker 1: the most part of guys playing sixty five seventy snaps

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01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 1: with few exceptions are over. So you know, I think

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Speaker 1: a number of these guys will come in and play

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01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 1: whatever a number of snaps it is, but it won't

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01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 1: be sixty five or seventy, and they'll be absolute contributors

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Speaker 1: to whoever drafts them. All right, last thing I have

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Speaker 1: for you. Last year, the Buffalo Bills drafted a quarterback

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Speaker 1: named Josh Allen. Now there's another Josh Allen in the draft.

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Speaker 1: He's out of Kentucky and he's an edge rusher. If

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Speaker 1: the Bills deja vu and pick this edge rusher out

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Speaker 1: of Kentucky, Josh Josh Allen, what's he gonna look like?

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Speaker 1: Is he worth it at number nine in the draft?

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Speaker 1: I think so when I actually met him and talked

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Speaker 1: to him, and boy, if he looked the part. He's

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Speaker 1: big enough to be a defensive end as well. He's

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Speaker 1: six five to sixty two and he's a terrific athlete.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he ran a four six three forty. He

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01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:42,440
Speaker 1: was a different player in twenty eighteen two. He really

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01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 1: improved as a pass rusher from twenty seventeen and that

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Speaker 1: says an awful lot about him. You know, I think

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Speaker 1: three four teams I'll look at him as an outside

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Speaker 1: backer in a base and four three teams will see

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Speaker 1: him as a defensive end. I think he has all

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Speaker 1: the trade you look for in an edge rusher. Lane

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Speaker 1: earth to ben, flexibility, change of direction, he countered, he's

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Speaker 1: got closing speed. I think he's got a chance to

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Speaker 1: develop into a special player. What do you think is

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Speaker 1: his best spot? Is it with his hand off the

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Speaker 1: ground as an outside linebacker or does he play better

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Speaker 1: at his defensive end with his hand on the ground. Well, Steve,

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Speaker 1: given the fact that teams I guess I don't know

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Speaker 1: the exact number, but I think or the exact percentage,

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01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 1: but I think teams are in their sub probably sixty

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Speaker 1: seven seventy percent of the time. He's essentially going to

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Speaker 1: be an edge rusher. And then I think you'd probably

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01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 1: leave it up to him as to comfort level. Does

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Speaker 1: he want to be in a three point stance or

1386
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 1: does he want to be a stand up guy in

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Speaker 1: a two point stance? But he's going to be an

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Speaker 1: edge rusher. Got one more edge rusher to ask you

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01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 1: about a guy who has been linked to the Bills

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01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 1: and some mock drafts Greg And that's the Michigan guy,

1391
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 1: Rashan Gary. What can you tell us about him? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's an interesting guy because for the scouts who look

1393
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 1: at production, he's not very productive, but he's got great measurables.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's over six to four, close to two eighty.

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01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 1: His forty yard dash was ridiculous for a man that

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Speaker 1: size at four or five eight. So is his vertical jump.

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Speaker 1: You watch him on tape, he's a very explosive mover.

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01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 1: I mean he's got suddenness, he's got twitches. We like

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01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 1: to say he just didn't make a lot of plays.

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Speaker 1: So you have to decide what that means. You know,

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01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 1: some guys will say, Okay, we can't draft him. He

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Speaker 1: just doesn't make any plays. Other guys will say, the

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Speaker 1: traits are so good, the athletic and physical traits are

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01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 1: so good, we'll get him to make the plays because

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01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 1: few guys move like that. So that comes down to

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01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 1: a philosophy. Hey, Lesson, we have very great guy. We

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Speaker 1: had somebody on our show last week mock draft guy

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Speaker 1: who had eight of the first sixteen picks in the

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Speaker 1: first round on the defensive line, inside guys or edge rushers.

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Speaker 1: That sound about right to you. That's a lot, isn't it.

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01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 1: It could be. I mean, we know, we know four

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01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are going to go. I mean, that's just life

1413
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 1: in the big city. So that's the way it's going

1414
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:06,599
Speaker 1: to go. So it's a defensive line draft for sure.

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01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 1: It's a it's a pass rush draft for sure. Um,

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Speaker 1: we'll see. But you know, I would bet Murph. Here's

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Speaker 1: the one thing I would bet that when teams do

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Speaker 1: their draft boards as an absolute, which it never the

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01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 1: draft never works as an absolute. Teams don't draft the

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Speaker 1: best player available. They draft the best player available based

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Speaker 1: on their need. But if you just do it as

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Speaker 1: an absolute, that probably sounds about right. Yeah, what do

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Speaker 1: you want to talk about next week? Greg? Did we

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01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 1: do old lineman yet? Offensive line? I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: I'll probably have to gain some weight then for next week. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you gain and I'll try and lose some. Thanks. Great week, guys,

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it, Appreciate you. Thank you. Greg Cosell is executive

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Speaker 1: producer analyst for NFL matchup on ESPN, senior producer at

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01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 1: NFL Films joining us on the line as he does

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Speaker 1: every Friday right around this time. Yeah, old lineman. I

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Speaker 1: don't think they's gonna draft in alignment because they loaded

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01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 1: up so heavily and free agency. But maybe at least

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Speaker 1: in the first round. I don't know if they will,

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01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 1: but I mention they do, Yeah, somewhere in the draft

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Speaker 1: picks and they got ten picks. Yeah, I would think

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01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 1: so if there's a guy that wait usually works, they'll

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01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 1: get to a point where they can take the best

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01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 1: player available, particularly if they if they just you know,

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01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 1: if they fill their needs up to where they're satisfactory

1440
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 1: early in the draft with a couple of picks, then

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01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:24,680
Speaker 1: when they get down further, if one of the what

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01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 1: will happen is like an offensive tackle, will it'll be

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Speaker 1: the fourth round and they had him rated as a

1444
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 1: second round talent. Yeah, that's when you take a Yeah. Hey,

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Speaker 1: our Twitter poll today, I think it's interesting. Look, the

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01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 1: state legislature probably has to decide this week whether to

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Speaker 1: legalize sports gambling in some form in New York State.

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01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:43,680
Speaker 1: If it's going to happen this year, it probably has

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Speaker 1: to happen this weekend, and we came across the poll

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Speaker 1: that showed that seventy I'm sorry eighty percent of respondents

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Speaker 1: to a seat in the Hall poll, when they were

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01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 1: asked if they believe legal betting can lead to cheating

1453
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 1: or fiction of games, eighty percent said yes, it can

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01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 1: not just sound football. I don't know from you on

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Speaker 1: our Twitter poll today, if New York legalizes gambling, will

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Speaker 1: it lead to cheating? Give us a call, let's discuss

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Speaker 1: eight three five fifty and toll free one eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty. What do he got there?

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Speaker 1: Are the opposite of sixty three percent say no, it's

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Speaker 1: not going to Yeah, maybe that's an NFL thing because

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Speaker 1: again this uh, this uh Seaton Hall poll was I

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Speaker 1: believe on all sports, but we'll like ever for you

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Speaker 1: on it. Give us a call, um, will legalize sports

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Speaker 1: gambling lead to cheating, gap points, shaving, fixing games in

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Speaker 1: the NFL eight three five fifty, toll free one eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty plus. Sean Payton,

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Speaker 1: who is now the undisputed king of all NFL coaches,

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Speaker 1: has some thoughts on some of the coaching hires that

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Speaker 1: went on this past offseason. We'll hear what he has

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Speaker 1: to say when we come back. John Murphy was Steve

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Speaker 1: Wheels Drive. This is Buffalo Bills Radio following the Twitter

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Speaker 1: Pole into Look, I don't know, I'm just what's going

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Speaker 1: on in this field? Oh that's the prop that Lorenzo's

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Speaker 1: talking to there. Yeah. Sorry, If you're not watching on MSG,

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Speaker 1: you're thinking, what are those guys talking about? You know,

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Speaker 1: they're on the air, military fatigues and stuff out in

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Speaker 1: the middle of the field. They're giving them a tour

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Speaker 1: of the stadium and stuff. Cool. Hey, Twitter Pole today

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Speaker 1: because of what's going on this weekend. We believe in albody,

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Speaker 1: maybe they pass legalized gambling, maybe they don't. If they do,

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Speaker 1: do you believe it'll have an impact on the game?

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Speaker 1: Legalized gambling? On Twitter, we asked that question, if New

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Speaker 1: York legalizes gambling, will it lead to cheating in the NFL?

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Speaker 1: What do you think? Most of our respondents on Twitter

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Speaker 1: say it will not. Sixty three percent say no, it won't.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're right. Twenty six percent say yes, it'll

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Speaker 1: lead to cheating By officials eleven twelve percent say say yes,

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Speaker 1: think about this cheat. Here's here's my go to argument, Murph,

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Speaker 1: and I know it's we're not arguing argument. Our argument

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Speaker 1: against oh against what against? Saying it will lead who cheating?

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Speaker 1: You got a bunch of guys thirty two of them

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Speaker 1: to be exact, and a lot of executives who are

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Speaker 1: in the middle of a twenty five billion dollars a

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Speaker 1: year industry in the NFL. If there is a whisper

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Speaker 1: of impropriety in their league, they're gonna take a hit

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Speaker 1: at their bottom line big time. I would think they're

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Speaker 1: gonna They're gonna put They're gonna put limits in place

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Speaker 1: and things in place to make sure that whatever happens

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Speaker 1: with the gambling side of it does not does not

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Speaker 1: infringe upon their integrity. They're not going to jeopardize a

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Speaker 1: twenty five billion dollar industry. Everybody, everybody's gonna sign on

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Speaker 1: board with that. I would think, yeah, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: you don't think it got like who wouldn't which which

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Speaker 1: owner wouldn't? I mean, good grief. There they got these

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Speaker 1: entities that are worth a billion dollars. What would make

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Speaker 1: them what would make them not put into place like

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Speaker 1: you know, and you know all this whatever it takes.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing it does. We're talking about cheating, which

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Speaker 1: is sort of a broad term, right, um. That could

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Speaker 1: include information about injuries, information about plays, um, information about

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Speaker 1: what how a team plans on um playing this game

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Speaker 1: coming up the Sunday. So it's not throwing games necessarily,

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Speaker 1: or or cheating to win the game by a player

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Speaker 1: or an official. But you know, there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: people around the game. All look all I'm saying my

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Speaker 1: only argument, you know, and I believe me. I hope

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Speaker 1: it doesn't happen. I really I hope they don't legalize gambling.

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Speaker 1: But if they do, and it looks like they will,

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Speaker 1: I think that gambling will be so widespread and so

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Speaker 1: mainstreamed that there's an opportunity for more corruption in the game.

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Speaker 1: I really believe that could happen. I'm not saying how,

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Speaker 1: But there's a million ways that games can be corrupted.

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Speaker 1: There's a million different There's a lot of people around

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Speaker 1: the game who might have an opportunity to impact, if

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Speaker 1: not the game, impact the way the betting on the

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Speaker 1: game goes. No, yeah, I'll tell you. I think anybody

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Speaker 1: involved with the game who would at that level we're

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Speaker 1: talking about, would understand how catastrophic it would be to

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Speaker 1: their career and their employment opportunities other places. You have

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Speaker 1: made the argument before about the Patriots and like inflating

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Speaker 1: footballs and deflating them, deflating footballs and how you know,

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Speaker 1: you've made intimations that the Patriots play fast and loose

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Speaker 1: with the rules for what for equipment guys who make

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Speaker 1: twenty five thousand dollars a year. I mean, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, you've already you have made in the past.

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Speaker 1: You've talked about how the Patriots played games so well.

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Speaker 1: I should think that the legalized gambling might not provide

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Speaker 1: those same opportunities for people who who maybe didn't have

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Speaker 1: as much to worry about. Well, there's a profound difference

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Speaker 1: between the two things. Are you sure Patriots are trying

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Speaker 1: to win? Period, end of story, No matter what, you're

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Speaker 1: talking about doing something for a different reason. And that's

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Speaker 1: that's a subtle, maybe, but very profound difference in the

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Speaker 1: two scenarios. If you're trying to win, win, win, win, win,

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Speaker 1: that's different than trying to cheat, cheat, cheat, cheat, because

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Speaker 1: you don't Yeah, I don't know it's all it's all

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Speaker 1: against the the rules. I don't know. We'll talk about

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Speaker 1: Kevin and Hamburg on the line with a thought on this, Kevin,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the air. How you doing Okay? Um,

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Speaker 1: they'll probably there's always some type of cheating and bus

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Speaker 1: going on in sports. But even if there is, I

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Speaker 1: don't think he'll ever be as bad as boxing, which

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Speaker 1: my dad always said it was almost the worst sporting game.

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Speaker 1: With that, you know, dives and referee stopping fights too

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Speaker 1: early if the guy's not hurt and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: I don't think boxing will always be the worst, even

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Speaker 1: over football, March madness and everything. Boxing is the dirtiest,

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Speaker 1: and he always said it is because there's too many

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Speaker 1: al Capone type people in bold. I don't know. Maybe

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Speaker 1: horse racing would would rival that. Yeah, maybe it's possible.

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Speaker 1: Um yeah, I mean there's always gonna be somebody who

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Speaker 1: gets it in their mind that they might try and

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Speaker 1: do it. The question is what can you do to

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Speaker 1: prevent it, and how prevalent will it be and how

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Speaker 1: big of an effect are you talking about? Are you

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Speaker 1: this different than than you're making a bet with your

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Speaker 1: buddy across the street, and you actually knew before he

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Speaker 1: made the bet that somebody wasn't going to play because

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Speaker 1: it was public knowledge. This is something different than that,

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Speaker 1: So I don't know. You know what you can say,

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Speaker 1: how is this going to come down? It is a complicated,

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Speaker 1: but that one of the reasons it's difficult. It is

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Speaker 1: difficult to get away with. I mean, good grief, you

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Speaker 1: got like two hundred people that have an effect on

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Speaker 1: the game. And maybe they have an effect on this game,

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Speaker 1: they probably don't have an effect on the next one

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Speaker 1: because either gonna be a twisted ankle or because they

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Speaker 1: don't get a role in the game the game plan

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Speaker 1: changes or whatever. I mean they any plan to coerce

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Speaker 1: or have an outcome of the game is going to

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Speaker 1: take a ton of people involved. And if you know,

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Speaker 1: you can keep a secret if it's just you, but

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Speaker 1: if there's two of you, you can't. Somebody's gonna talk. Um.

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Speaker 1: Even now, even to this thing where the people say

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Speaker 1: the officials listen, they can challenge that penalty. They don't

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Speaker 1: need to. They don't the officials. It's not gonna be

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Speaker 1: able to do it that easily. If if the situation

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Speaker 1: falls in his lap. On the tweet sheet from the

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Speaker 1: Bills Monster. When we ask if New York legalizes gambling,

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Speaker 1: will it lead to cheating in uh in NFL football,

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Speaker 1: The Bills Monster responds, everybody already bets on games, even

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Speaker 1: in New York. I would be more concerned about college

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Speaker 1: sports rather than pro I do think some of the

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Speaker 1: money off the top needs to be taken in order

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Speaker 1: to stop cheating. I don't know how that would work.

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Speaker 1: Take money off the top to stop cheating? What does

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Speaker 1: that mean? I don't know. I don't know. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how that worn't know what he means. Also from

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Speaker 1: the tweet sheet from Bill Rogowski, no way will anyone

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Speaker 1: be cheating. I do hope it happens like other states,

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Speaker 1: so we can wager and have some fun. People want

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Speaker 1: their gambling, Steve, I think that's pretty obvious. And this

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Speaker 1: the Seaton Hall report that got us going here. The

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Speaker 1: survey said that seventy one percent of responded say they'd

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Speaker 1: be more willing to watch a broadcast more likely to

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Speaker 1: watch a broadcast of a game on which they bet,

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Speaker 1: So seventy one percent. That's what almost three quarters of

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Speaker 1: people responding to this survey taken by Seaton Hall say,

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Speaker 1: I have more fun watching a game. If I have

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Speaker 1: something on the line, I understand. I didn't need a

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Speaker 1: poll to tell me that. I mean, I'm sorry. Of

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Speaker 1: course everybody knows that. If you've got yeah, it's like

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Speaker 1: buying an extra ticket. You gotta gotta listen then if if, if, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's not only you pay to watch the game in

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Speaker 1: the stadium, you're paying to watch the game, be interested

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Speaker 1: in the game. Um yeah, that's it's it's not a

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Speaker 1: good development. That's it does take us down the road,

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Speaker 1: no question. I mean, it's a different it's a shift

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Speaker 1: in the landscape, and it makes it easier and pot

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Speaker 1: more possible for more people to get involved in the

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Speaker 1: sport and have an interest other than I don't know,

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Speaker 1: you're right, it takes away the innocence of just being

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Speaker 1: a fan of your team. Yeah, you know, so that

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Speaker 1: that kind of stinks in in one way, shape or form.

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Speaker 1: But by the same token, I don't For a lot

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Speaker 1: of people, nothing changes. They're still they bet on it. Now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I want to switch. I get to sense you want

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Speaker 1: to switch your topics here. Yeah, okay, yeah, I'm ready,

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Speaker 1: I'm ready, go ahead. Sean Payton, the king of the

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Speaker 1: world right now, right, he's on top of the world.

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Speaker 1: He successfully engineered a cool of the NFL Competition Committee

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Speaker 1: and managed to impose instant replay on past interference calls

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Speaker 1: because he took a bad call in the NFC title game.

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton, it's his league. Everybody just playing along with him. Now,

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Speaker 1: Well he didn't interview Sean Payton with NFL network Steve

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Speaker 1: Weis this week, and he said he had something to

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Speaker 1: say about how this last batch of coaches were hired

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Speaker 1: back in January when teams were hiring coaches. Listen to

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Speaker 1: what Sean Payton had to say about this, because you

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Speaker 1: know what, Sean Payton is on top of the world right. Now,

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Speaker 1: here's what you said. If you say, well, I just

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Speaker 1: want the ones that coach quarterbacks and on their own offense,

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Speaker 1: well then you're gonna end up with a smaller pool

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Speaker 1: and you probably have less of a chance to be

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Speaker 1: right because already you know, of eight hired, there's going

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Speaker 1: to be three that you know that survived three years.

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Speaker 1: I think we've got a diversity problem. That's like this

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Speaker 1: season what took place, that's hitting us in square in

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Speaker 1: the face. And I think that like not a lot

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Speaker 1: was written or discussed about it. And there are a

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Speaker 1: handful of coaches that I know if I was a

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Speaker 1: GM who I would be interested in hiring. So I

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Speaker 1: think more and more it's seasoned by season, and like

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Speaker 1: it's I want Alvin Kamara, Well you can't have him,

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Speaker 1: you can go. You can go draft ten more running

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Speaker 1: backs and be over ten trying to find him or

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Speaker 1: McVeigh or and so I see a lot of mistakes

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Speaker 1: made in that process. I feel like this this long

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Speaker 1: ind and and so we're excited to play those teams.

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Speaker 1: That's weird Sean McVay or Sean Payton essentially saying these

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Speaker 1: teams have made mistakes hiring their coaches and we can't

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Speaker 1: wait to play him, so we can beat him. Okay,

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Speaker 1: go beat him, Go beat him, coach Payton. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: just think it's an amazing I think, yeah, he has

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Speaker 1: a high opinion of himself. Well, the nugget that I

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Speaker 1: got out of that, and you're right, is the Saints

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Speaker 1: did it and got and you know, just missed the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl with a bad call. They got there doing

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Speaker 1: it with the guys they drafted, using the guys they drafted,

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Speaker 1: and the guys they have on their roster the best

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Speaker 1: way they possibly can. And his point I think was, listen,

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Speaker 1: you hire the best people that are out there, and

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Speaker 1: you do it your way. You do it like you

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Speaker 1: know all these new head coaches, Cliff Kingsbury in Arizona,

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Speaker 1: He's got to do it his way. He's gonna draft

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Speaker 1: his players, he's gonna use his players the way they're

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Speaker 1: best suited to be used, not the same way that

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Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints are used. So hiring a head

1680
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:13,600
Speaker 1: coach because Sean mcvay's had immediate success in LA is

1681
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:16,040
Speaker 1: a ridiculous notion. You got to hire the best coach

1682
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 1: that's out there and let him formulate the way that

1683
01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 1: your team is gonna win. It's gonna look different than

1684
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 1: the Rams, it's gonna look different than the New New

1685
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:26,240
Speaker 1: Orleans Saints. And he says that owners are making mistakes

1686
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 1: trying to copy the way the Saints are doing it,

1687
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 1: the way the Rams are doing it, the way the

1688
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 1: Patriots are doing it, the way the Steelers do it.

1689
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 1: You're you're making a big mistake trying to find a coach.

1690
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 1: It's gonna make your team look like that team. I

1691
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 1: go along with an. I see his point there. But

1692
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 1: how does Sean Payton think he got his job? You know,

1693
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 1: he was the hot young assistant for who Bill Parcells,

1694
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:49,439
Speaker 1: who got a chance? You know these other new eight

1695
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:52,400
Speaker 1: one eight new head coaches this year, they deserve a shot.

1696
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 1: And look, if you only hired him because you think

1697
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 1: he's Sean McVay, Peyton is right, that's a problem. But

1698
01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:00,679
Speaker 1: I think that all these teams can make arguments about

1699
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 1: why they hired these guys. I mean, the Browns, with

1700
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 1: all that upcoming talent, promoted an assistant right who had

1701
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:10,200
Speaker 1: no record of being a Sean McVay type guy. I

1702
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:13,639
Speaker 1: just I think Peyton is uh. I think he's full

1703
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:16,679
Speaker 1: of himself now that he's a successfully engineered to cool

1704
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:18,840
Speaker 1: with the competition committee and got his own. The Sean

1705
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 1: Sean Payton rule is now in place to review He

1706
01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 1: used replay to review pass interference, and we saw the

1707
01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 1: rule after him, the Peyton rule. Yes we should actually yeah.

1708
01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 1: The thing about it is he's right, and the Saints right.

1709
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 1: The Saints in some ways, the Saints are a good

1710
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:37,360
Speaker 1: example of what it is when you get a coach

1711
01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:40,640
Speaker 1: who's good, and he is a good coach. I mean,

1712
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:42,519
Speaker 1: you can say what you want about him. He may

1713
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:48,479
Speaker 1: be full of himself maybe, But here's the thing for me,

1714
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:53,240
Speaker 1: he's a great example of why if you hire a

1715
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:55,519
Speaker 1: good coach, don't let him go just because you have

1716
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:57,840
Speaker 1: a couple of bad seasons. You got to look at

1717
01:24:57,840 --> 01:24:59,679
Speaker 1: the total thing. This. We got into this yesterday about

1718
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 1: wins and losses being the only way to measure a

1719
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:07,200
Speaker 1: team's success. They had three years between their last super

1720
01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:10,720
Speaker 1: Bowl and this latest run they're making of where I

1721
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:12,800
Speaker 1: think they were either nine and seven or seven and nine.

1722
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 1: They were the same record three years in a row.

1723
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 1: They didn't change and the team stayed with him, and

1724
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:20,880
Speaker 1: now they're reaping the benefits of that stability. If you

1725
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:23,439
Speaker 1: got a good coach, he doesn't forget how to be

1726
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:28,560
Speaker 1: a good coach. So I'm a big proponent of what

1727
01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 1: I've said time and time again. You hire the best

1728
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 1: guy you can, and you support him until he figures

1729
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 1: it out. Help him to be successful. He's not gonna

1730
01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:39,880
Speaker 1: not be the good guy just because your players get worse,

1731
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 1: or because you lose good players and he's coaching lesser talent.

1732
01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:45,640
Speaker 1: He's still a good coach. You got to help him

1733
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:50,040
Speaker 1: be successful. I think that's the kind of mindset. NFL

1734
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 1: owners need to adapt more than like he said, every

1735
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 1: three years, you're gonna churn it, you know, because you're

1736
01:25:56,520 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 1: not quinting, you're not getting wins. There's two many ways

1737
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:03,599
Speaker 1: to evaluate how the guy's doing, rather than just looking

1738
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 1: at the win loss at the end of the year

1739
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:07,680
Speaker 1: and then making your decision. Yeah, I will say this,

1740
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 1: I think you overstate how much success Peyton has had

1741
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 1: one Super Bowl and it was a great year two

1742
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:15,680
Speaker 1: thousand and nine. They had back to back to back,

1743
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:18,920
Speaker 1: three straight seven win nine loss years. That's right. And

1744
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 1: they didn't change your right, which is southern we said

1745
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:23,599
Speaker 1: there As far as a New Orleans situation. As far

1746
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:27,320
Speaker 1: as kind of a they weren't. They don't get real

1747
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:30,640
Speaker 1: strong leadership from ownership down there. So maybe that's why

1748
01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:33,880
Speaker 1: they didn't fire Sean Payton. Look, he's a beneficiary of

1749
01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 1: of having, you know, a good quarterback, a really good

1750
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 1: quarterback on his roster, and an ownership situation where they

1751
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:44,000
Speaker 1: didn't fire him. Yeah. I get that, but I don't

1752
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:45,639
Speaker 1: think he has all the answers, is all I'm trying

1753
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:47,719
Speaker 1: to say. When it comes to how to hire coaches

1754
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 1: in the NFL. He got a chance when he first

1755
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 1: got his job back in two thousand and six. The

1756
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:54,040
Speaker 1: one thing I do agree with him, and he points

1757
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:56,560
Speaker 1: this out, we've got a diversity problem. He's right about that.

1758
01:26:56,760 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 1: This year's head coach, you know, serious diversity problem. Well

1759
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:01,720
Speaker 1: when they know how to solve that, And I don't know.

1760
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 1: I don't know either, I really don't. You got to

1761
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:08,759
Speaker 1: you gotta have guys being groomed to be head coaches.

1762
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:10,320
Speaker 1: And I think there are a number of guys out there,

1763
01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:17,160
Speaker 1: and I think for whatever reason, it's just not for

1764
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:19,360
Speaker 1: a long time, they didn't have any So they're not

1765
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:21,840
Speaker 1: where they were, but they're certainly not where they should be.

1766
01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 1: And it's not where they're and they should be headed

1767
01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 1: there at a more steady pace. Sometimes it does and

1768
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 1: fits and starts and sometimes not. So I'm still with you.

1769
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:33,680
Speaker 1: I think there need to be more. There needs to

1770
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:36,240
Speaker 1: be more diversity, not only at the head coaching level,

1771
01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:40,040
Speaker 1: but of course, gracious, the coordinator levels, the general manager

1772
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:44,400
Speaker 1: level per person every place. Yeah, hey, betting on NFL games.

1773
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 1: If it's legalized in New York, it could something could

1774
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:49,120
Speaker 1: happen this weekend. But if it is, will it lead

1775
01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:51,000
Speaker 1: to cheating in the NFL. Let us know what you think.

1776
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:52,639
Speaker 1: We'll take a couple of phone calls when we come back.

1777
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 1: John Murphy with Steam Tasker One Bill's Live from One

1778
01:27:55,040 --> 01:28:13,320
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to show.

1779
01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:18,080
Speaker 1: I'm the host through it at him? Host, What are

1780
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 1: we doing here? I don't know. You're the hosts. Go

1781
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:23,920
Speaker 1: ahead and decide on the topic the Twitter thing today.

1782
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:25,519
Speaker 1: We got to have this debate, and we can do

1783
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:27,519
Speaker 1: it right here in front of our friends. We've got

1784
01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 1: a call on this. Let's take the call. Let's see

1785
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:32,759
Speaker 1: if he adds something to the conversation. Jerry and Rochester

1786
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:37,960
Speaker 1: help us out. Jerry a motified taster. I just wanted

1787
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:41,639
Speaker 1: to say that I feel about that in the same

1788
01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 1: way you feel about instant replaying. I do think I

1789
01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:47,720
Speaker 1: think I think it does affect the integrity of the

1790
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:52,880
Speaker 1: game so well, you know, to me, you know, either

1791
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:54,760
Speaker 1: you're a fan of the game and you're watching him

1792
01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:59,360
Speaker 1: because you're you're supporting a team, and just the just

1793
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:02,840
Speaker 1: the shadow of gambling. I mean, there's a reason why

1794
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:05,559
Speaker 1: gambling hasn't been allowed for all these years, and it's

1795
01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 1: kind of like we've forgotten about that. Yeah, I'll tell

1796
01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:10,920
Speaker 1: you what, Jerry. Here's the thing. As soon as you

1797
01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:17,519
Speaker 1: allow legalized gambling, have legalized gambling, immediately you have to

1798
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 1: ask the question is it going to effect? And that

1799
01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:22,799
Speaker 1: all of a sudden there's a suspicion out of nowhere,

1800
01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:29,760
Speaker 1: whether it's real or real or imagined. Do you have

1801
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:31,360
Speaker 1: to ask a question? What are they going to do

1802
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 1: if somebody tries to cheat? You got to ask a question.

1803
01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:39,680
Speaker 1: That's automatic. You got to keep it fair. Yeah. Now,

1804
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:43,120
Speaker 1: can I mention one more thing? Guys? Of course? Um

1805
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:45,639
Speaker 1: mind that you guys are talking about the greatest athletes

1806
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:49,200
Speaker 1: from Western New York. Yeah, yeah, one. I think there's

1807
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:51,960
Speaker 1: one player, one athlete that you guys have mentioned, which

1808
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:54,040
Speaker 1: I think maybe the best athlete we ever produced to

1809
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:57,479
Speaker 1: West New York. Who's that Davis or any Davis? Where's

1810
01:29:57,520 --> 01:30:02,560
Speaker 1: the Elmira? Right, it's on my express. He was a

1811
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:05,960
Speaker 1: big reason why Syracuse won its only national championship. Yeah,

1812
01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:10,320
Speaker 1: he won the Heisman Trophy. He was the first African

1813
01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:13,400
Speaker 1: American to win the Heisman Trophy. He was drafted by

1814
01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:16,280
Speaker 1: the Chicago I mean the Cleveland Browns and they retired

1815
01:30:16,360 --> 01:30:19,920
Speaker 1: his number. And can you imagine what the backfield two

1816
01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:22,080
Speaker 1: Land Browns were they had with Jimmy Brown and Ernie

1817
01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:25,200
Speaker 1: Davis if he hadn't died at age twenty tire Jerry,

1818
01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:27,640
Speaker 1: And let me just say, I believe me. I acknowledge

1819
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:32,280
Speaker 1: Ernie Davis's tremendous career and his tragic death prevented him

1820
01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:36,120
Speaker 1: from being a professional. And I guess you know, look,

1821
01:30:36,160 --> 01:30:38,439
Speaker 1: that was a pretty informal pole, maybe not quite as

1822
01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:42,040
Speaker 1: strong as today's pole, but we only have four slots

1823
01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:44,720
Speaker 1: that you yes, that's part of it. And also you

1824
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:46,680
Speaker 1: know you're gonna compare him to uh well, it was

1825
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:50,479
Speaker 1: a Gronkowski motivated Twitter pole. Because he retired he is

1826
01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:52,120
Speaker 1: likely to be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame

1827
01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 1: after a good, solid college career in a great NFL career.

1828
01:30:55,920 --> 01:30:59,599
Speaker 1: Who else was on our list of foolineer Basketball Hall

1829
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:03,719
Speaker 1: of Fame Wren Baseball Hall of Famer all time winning

1830
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:09,960
Speaker 1: this left hander and who was the fourth pat three

1831
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:12,479
Speaker 1: times Stanley Cup. I do admire Ernie Davis and and

1832
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:16,120
Speaker 1: certainly appreciate the tragic nature of his demise, But those guys,

1833
01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:18,280
Speaker 1: that's pretty good crew. The first form we didn't even

1834
01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:21,840
Speaker 1: include Christian Latner, who probably mentioned one of the great

1835
01:31:21,880 --> 01:31:24,960
Speaker 1: hut one of the best college basketball players of all time. Yeah,

1836
01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:28,720
Speaker 1: so yeah, I get And yeah, we had a lot

1837
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:30,920
Speaker 1: of other people and those are all men too, so

1838
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:35,160
Speaker 1: we had women. Abby Wambaugh was was a big proponent

1839
01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:39,240
Speaker 1: for a lot of people, and the pole vaulter from

1840
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:43,599
Speaker 1: was in there, so we had all kinds. When then

1841
01:31:43,640 --> 01:31:47,439
Speaker 1: we you know, quite frankly, that the Twitter poll got

1842
01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:49,639
Speaker 1: into the point where everybody was just picking out every

1843
01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:52,479
Speaker 1: athlete they could possibly think of who had a professional career,

1844
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:54,920
Speaker 1: you know, I mean Brian Gionta was you know, with

1845
01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:58,040
Speaker 1: being chimed in, Khalil Mack, who's not even firm with

1846
01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:03,560
Speaker 1: well nothing, nothing except the fact that he's probably not

1847
01:32:03,640 --> 01:32:05,720
Speaker 1: as good a pro in his sport as Gronk wasn't

1848
01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:09,880
Speaker 1: his or Bob Bob Lanier or these other guys. So

1849
01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:14,080
Speaker 1: it's hard when you only have four four spots because

1850
01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 1: of the because of the pole structure, you know, I mean,

1851
01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:19,840
Speaker 1: we could have put up twenty five of them. Then

1852
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:21,640
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Right, So, you had a

1853
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:23,760
Speaker 1: comment on today's Twitter pol you want to do take

1854
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:25,599
Speaker 1: us down that road. No, I don't want to talk

1855
01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:29,920
Speaker 1: about the Twitter pat. Yeah, I just think anytime. I

1856
01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:32,120
Speaker 1: said it. When Jerry called in, I said, the thing

1857
01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:34,479
Speaker 1: about it is, if you're gonna legalize gambling, you have

1858
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:36,880
Speaker 1: to ask the question. Now it is automatic. You have

1859
01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:40,320
Speaker 1: to And I listen, how many times or has it

1860
01:32:40,400 --> 01:32:42,320
Speaker 1: ever happened to you that one of your friends has

1861
01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:45,160
Speaker 1: seen something happen in the NFL in years past and

1862
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:47,840
Speaker 1: say that that had to be fixed? Yeah, they say

1863
01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:50,599
Speaker 1: it all the time. How often is it gonna be? Now?

1864
01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:54,040
Speaker 1: Now they're gonna have you know, it's gonna you know,

1865
01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:58,360
Speaker 1: the conspiracy you put you you put your tinfoil hat.

1866
01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:02,160
Speaker 1: Everybody wears a tinfoil hat the betting window and still

1867
01:33:02,240 --> 01:33:04,840
Speaker 1: puts their money down. It's gonna be mainstream. I know,

1868
01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:08,240
Speaker 1: I get it. So I don't think it's good automatically.

1869
01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:10,320
Speaker 1: The question has to be asked. That's my only point

1870
01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:12,720
Speaker 1: to the whole scenario. You got to ask it, and

1871
01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:15,840
Speaker 1: you got to and now now you have to demand

1872
01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:18,800
Speaker 1: an answer, say why can it be? And they have

1873
01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:20,720
Speaker 1: to kind of prove to you. And there's then all

1874
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:23,519
Speaker 1: kinds of stuff in where every league's gonna get an

1875
01:33:23,560 --> 01:33:25,960
Speaker 1: integrity fee or have an integrity so they're gonna put

1876
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:28,560
Speaker 1: things in place, you know, what I mean, right, I know,

1877
01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:31,439
Speaker 1: but still they got to have an answer when they say,

1878
01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:33,680
Speaker 1: how's come that happened that way? It looks like it

1879
01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:35,960
Speaker 1: was fixed. Why wasn't it. They got to come up

1880
01:33:35,960 --> 01:33:37,960
Speaker 1: and say, well, listen, here we have these this in place,

1881
01:33:38,040 --> 01:33:40,160
Speaker 1: and that in place, and this in place to keep

1882
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:42,200
Speaker 1: it from happening that now you have to do that.

1883
01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:45,240
Speaker 1: Am I right? Is that how it works? I don't know.

1884
01:33:45,320 --> 01:33:47,200
Speaker 1: Passes in It's gonna pass in New York, maybe not

1885
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:50,719
Speaker 1: this weekend, but soon you'll look. You can already gamble

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Speaker 1: on sports books in New Jersey, right, and in Connecticut,

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Speaker 1: I believe New Jersey, in Connecticut. So it's come in Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania,

1888
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Speaker 1: That's what I meant. And it's being discussed in Connecticut

1889
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Speaker 1: and in Massachusetts. It's coming here before the reason then

1890
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Speaker 1: we're talking about it today is going to vote on

1891
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Speaker 1: the budget in Albany. And it might be in the budget.

1892
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Speaker 1: It might be in the budget, might or might not be.

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Speaker 1: All right, a break. We're back with the third and

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Speaker 1: final hour of the show. Make sure you know you

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Speaker 1: can join us at eight oh three five fifty about

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Speaker 1: anything one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty

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Speaker 1: one Bills live from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 1: Radio Bills Radio Network. Sports Day that day comes from

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. Boards Quiet this Friday. The Bills return

1900
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Speaker 1: in about two weeks. Two weeks from Monday, the offseason

1901
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Speaker 1: conditioning programs begin voluntary attendance. Still several players already in

1902
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Speaker 1: attendance here at One Bill's Drive. A couple of trades

1903
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Speaker 1: and acquisitions around the NFL. The Cowboys acquired defensive end

1904
01:34:53,200 --> 01:34:55,400
Speaker 1: Robert Quinn from the Dolphins last night for a six

1905
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Speaker 1: round pick in twenty twenty. He visited the Cowboys last week,

1906
01:34:58,520 --> 01:35:00,599
Speaker 1: also met with the Saints. Quinn was set to make

1907
01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:03,240
Speaker 1: almost twelve million dollars in the last year of his contract.

1908
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:05,840
Speaker 1: Earlier in the month, the Dolphins played Quinn a roster

1909
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Speaker 1: bonus and reportedly we're willing to pay some of his

1910
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Speaker 1: base salary to get him going into trade. The Cowboys

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Speaker 1: get defensimen Robert Quinn from the Miami Dolphins for a

1912
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Speaker 1: six round pick next year, and the Eagles got the

1913
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Speaker 1: running back help they needed by acquiring Jordan Howard from

1914
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Speaker 1: the Bears last night. The Bears get a sixth round

1915
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Speaker 1: pick in twenty twenty that can become a fifth round pick.

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Speaker 1: Howard played three seasons in Chicago, rush for over one

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Speaker 1: thousand yards in both twenty sixteen and twenty seventeen. He

1918
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Speaker 1: ranks third in the NFL and rushing since he came

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Speaker 1: into the league. Patriots now maybe on the lookout for

1920
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Speaker 1: a new defensive coordinator. Great Ciano over Tampa Bay Buccaneers

1921
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Speaker 1: head coach, stepped down from his position on the Patriots

1922
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Speaker 1: coaching staff, siting a need to spend more time on

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Speaker 1: his faith and his family. Sianno, who's hired had never

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Speaker 1: been officially announced by the Patriots, announced his decision in

1925
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Speaker 1: a joint statement yesterday with head coach Bill Belichick. He

1926
01:35:54,080 --> 01:35:56,160
Speaker 1: was hired by New England less than two months ago.

1927
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Speaker 1: Although the team never specified what his role would be,

1928
01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:01,360
Speaker 1: it was widely assumed he would play a lead role

1929
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Speaker 1: on defense, replacing defensive play caller Brian Florence, who was

1930
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Speaker 1: hired as the Dolphins head coach this upcoming season. The

1931
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Speaker 1: NCAA Tournament continues today tonight, rather with four more games

1932
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Speaker 1: the Sweet sixteen first it starts in Washington, d C.

1933
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Speaker 1: In the East Region when LSU plays Michigan State. That

1934
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Speaker 1: game tips off right after seven o'clock. The next game

1935
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Speaker 1: is in the Midwest region in Kansas City, Auburn and

1936
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Speaker 1: North Carolina. Following that back to Washington where it's Duke

1937
01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:30,320
Speaker 1: number one team in the seatings against Virginia Tech, and

1938
01:36:30,439 --> 01:36:34,479
Speaker 1: then Kentucky plays Houston. Back in Kansas City. Sabers lost

1939
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Speaker 1: last night five for Steve Tasker was there, Steve, give

1940
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Speaker 1: us your capsule account of the Sabers lossing game. Exciting game,

1941
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Speaker 1: exciting game, tough to lose in overtime. Got a look

1942
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Speaker 1: at a lot of the young guys. That gives me

1943
01:36:46,160 --> 01:36:52,479
Speaker 1: a little bit of excitement for the future. Olifsson, the

1944
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:54,680
Speaker 1: new guy they brought every Manchester, led the team in it.

1945
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Speaker 1: Very good, excited about him. That was really the takeaway

1946
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Speaker 1: the team. It was an exciting game, fund to watch, entertaining,

1947
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Speaker 1: great atmosphere and Olivsson looked like a keeper. That was nice.

1948
01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:08,439
Speaker 1: You're a good fan. I'm just saying you are. You'll

1949
01:37:08,479 --> 01:37:10,680
Speaker 1: take that as a compound. You are, you are? I mean,

1950
01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:12,360
Speaker 1: I get it, I mean I'm not. I wasn't going

1951
01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:14,360
Speaker 1: there to see, you know, game seven of the Stanley Cup.

1952
01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:17,200
Speaker 1: Going there to see two teams have struggled during the

1953
01:37:17,240 --> 01:37:19,519
Speaker 1: season my team from particular, and I want to see

1954
01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:20,960
Speaker 1: what I've got going, you know, I want to watch

1955
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Speaker 1: him play. There's some guys on that team I like,

1956
01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:25,280
Speaker 1: so I want to see him play cool and I

1957
01:37:25,360 --> 01:37:26,840
Speaker 1: was in my family. So there you go, There you go.

1958
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Speaker 1: That makes all the difference. Yea. So we have a

1959
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:30,720
Speaker 1: new Twitter poll that's up. You can vote in our

1960
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Speaker 1: first one or vote in this one. This one deals

1961
01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:37,280
Speaker 1: with the so you figure it out four weeks away.

1962
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Speaker 1: I didn't know this was a possible thing. I think

1963
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:42,240
Speaker 1: we've done something similar to this, have we not in

1964
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Speaker 1: my tenure? In short tenure? Here Twitter Poll Part two.

1965
01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:49,000
Speaker 1: The draft is less than a month away. So which

1966
01:37:49,160 --> 01:37:52,000
Speaker 1: draft prospect can be most could be most beneficial to

1967
01:37:52,080 --> 01:37:54,360
Speaker 1: the Bills. We'll give you some names. If you like,

1968
01:37:54,520 --> 01:37:56,360
Speaker 1: hear one you like or if you hear one that

1969
01:37:56,439 --> 01:37:58,000
Speaker 1: you If you don't hear one that you like, give

1970
01:37:58,080 --> 01:38:00,839
Speaker 1: us a call. Which draft prospect could be most beneficial

1971
01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:03,920
Speaker 1: to the Bills. Could it be wide receiver DK Metcalf?

1972
01:38:04,360 --> 01:38:07,479
Speaker 1: Could it be used in the defensive tackle and Oliver

1973
01:38:07,640 --> 01:38:09,360
Speaker 1: He seems to be the flavor of the month, doesn't he?

1974
01:38:09,680 --> 01:38:13,040
Speaker 1: Could it be Mississippi State pass Rusher Edge Rusher Montes,

1975
01:38:13,120 --> 01:38:15,439
Speaker 1: Sweat or could it be tight end t J. Hockinson

1976
01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:18,360
Speaker 1: of Iowa on the Twitter poll so far with about

1977
01:38:18,360 --> 01:38:20,760
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty votes in fifty six percent of

1978
01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:24,360
Speaker 1: you say Oliver, twenty one percent say the tight end Hockinson,

1979
01:38:25,160 --> 01:38:28,160
Speaker 1: seventeen percent say DK Metcalf the wide receiver, six percent

1980
01:38:28,240 --> 01:38:30,519
Speaker 1: go with Sweat. These are guys that we thought would

1981
01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:32,559
Speaker 1: be there at number nine two. I mean, you could

1982
01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:35,960
Speaker 1: probably say Nick Bosa would make a you know what

1983
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:38,240
Speaker 1: I mean, but he might be the number one guy pick.

1984
01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:40,160
Speaker 1: These are guys that have a chance of being on

1985
01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:43,679
Speaker 1: the board. When Buffalo picks Hawkinson as well, the tight

1986
01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:46,200
Speaker 1: end at of Iowa, he's who may be the next

1987
01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:49,080
Speaker 1: Gronk for all we know who knows but all and

1988
01:38:49,240 --> 01:38:54,960
Speaker 1: obviously we kicked the other. We kicked the other Twitter

1989
01:38:55,040 --> 01:38:57,640
Speaker 1: poll to the curb because I didn't like it. I

1990
01:38:57,640 --> 01:39:01,200
Speaker 1: don't like it. If New York realizes gambling will lead

1991
01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:04,000
Speaker 1: to cheating, right, you can weigh in on that as well.

1992
01:39:04,360 --> 01:39:06,240
Speaker 1: Right here we go from people are already chiming in

1993
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Speaker 1: on this draft prospect. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm way

1994
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Speaker 1: into this Twitter pool now. I'm TJ. Hockinson. I'm sorry,

1995
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Speaker 1: bur TJ. Hockinson. A dominant run blocker and a dynamic

1996
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Speaker 1: receiving threat. Okay, Eric go striker, Well, hello Western New York.

1997
01:39:23,680 --> 01:39:27,120
Speaker 1: I see Montes Sweat as a top draft pick if

1998
01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:29,759
Speaker 1: you're willing not to expect him to be NFL ready

1999
01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:33,479
Speaker 1: for his first season. Huge potential, though dropping a few

2000
01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:36,840
Speaker 1: pounds from two forty five might help him a lot,

2001
01:39:37,920 --> 01:39:42,120
Speaker 1: So he thinks Montes Sweat and Anthony Dominico says, I

2002
01:39:42,200 --> 01:39:44,599
Speaker 1: believe that the most beneficial would be DK Metcalf if

2003
01:39:44,640 --> 01:39:47,880
Speaker 1: he plans, if he pans out, because his position is

2004
01:39:47,920 --> 01:39:51,479
Speaker 1: the most impactful. However, I believe Ed Oliver will be

2005
01:39:51,560 --> 01:39:54,160
Speaker 1: the best player. There's a lot of range in that

2006
01:39:54,280 --> 01:40:00,560
Speaker 1: and about that, okay, okay. Joey says, I don't know

2007
01:40:00,600 --> 01:40:03,639
Speaker 1: about Ed Oliver. Watch his tape. He has one speed

2008
01:40:03,800 --> 01:40:07,280
Speaker 1: and overruns the play consistently. There is a reason he

2009
01:40:07,320 --> 01:40:11,240
Speaker 1: has pedestrian numbers. Buffalo needs a sack machine, and there's

2010
01:40:11,240 --> 01:40:12,519
Speaker 1: something to be said for that too. If you want

2011
01:40:12,560 --> 01:40:14,040
Speaker 1: a guy that gets sacked, you're not going to take

2012
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Speaker 1: a defensive tackle. Aaron Donald, I know as a defensive tackle,

2013
01:40:17,080 --> 01:40:19,880
Speaker 1: led the league in sacks, but he's a generational player

2014
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Speaker 1: at that position. None of these guys are that. Not

2015
01:40:22,920 --> 01:40:25,000
Speaker 1: saying they couldn't be really good players. I'm just saying

2016
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Speaker 1: you don't expect a defensive tackle to get a lot

2017
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Speaker 1: of sacks. So if you want a guy's kind of

2018
01:40:29,040 --> 01:40:31,800
Speaker 1: get sacks, you're talking a guy like Montez Sweat or

2019
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Speaker 1: one of the guys that plays outside Ed Oliver and

2020
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Speaker 1: those guys. Defensive tackles not so much. I don't care

2021
01:40:37,479 --> 01:40:39,840
Speaker 1: about sacks as much as I care about pressure. Who's

2022
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:42,759
Speaker 1: going to be the most consistent guy pressuring a quarterback?

2023
01:40:42,920 --> 01:40:45,639
Speaker 1: And sacks come as a result of that. But I'm

2024
01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:47,280
Speaker 1: not gonna get hung up on the number of sax

2025
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Speaker 1: for any of these guys. So which draft prospect could

2026
01:40:50,080 --> 01:40:52,599
Speaker 1: be most beneficial? You can tackle that? Or if New

2027
01:40:52,680 --> 01:40:54,800
Speaker 1: York leagu guys is gambling, will it lead to cheating?

2028
01:40:54,840 --> 01:40:56,840
Speaker 1: You can get into that. Give us a call or

2029
01:40:57,080 --> 01:40:59,519
Speaker 1: send us a tweet. Here's a call from Chris. I'm

2030
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Speaker 1: the line. Chris, go ahead, all right, how are you great? Good?

2031
01:41:03,400 --> 01:41:05,600
Speaker 1: I just wanted to I forgot to call yesterday with

2032
01:41:06,720 --> 01:41:10,719
Speaker 1: when you were talking about the best athlete in wetternd

2033
01:41:10,760 --> 01:41:14,120
Speaker 1: New York forgot about Walter Hagen, the golfer. Well, we

2034
01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:17,160
Speaker 1: mentioned him once or twice. He got eleven majors. He's

2035
01:41:17,200 --> 01:41:19,920
Speaker 1: behind Tiger Woods and Jack Nicholas for the most majors

2036
01:41:19,960 --> 01:41:23,400
Speaker 1: in his career. He's he was outstanding golfer, an all

2037
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Speaker 1: time great golfer. And you're right, he's a Rochester guy

2038
01:41:26,120 --> 01:41:28,160
Speaker 1: as well. So he would be on the list, no question.

2039
01:41:28,560 --> 01:41:31,120
Speaker 1: But there was only four slots. So well, I just

2040
01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:33,160
Speaker 1: thought i'd mentioned because I didn't. I didn't hear you

2041
01:41:33,240 --> 01:41:35,720
Speaker 1: mentioned him yesterday? Well, yeah, he came up. I got you,

2042
01:41:36,320 --> 01:41:39,639
Speaker 1: all right, appreciate it, yep, all right, thanks eighth three

2043
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Speaker 1: fifty to three one eight five fifty two five fifty.

2044
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Speaker 1: Which here's the thing about the draft prospects. Now that

2045
01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:48,519
Speaker 1: we're talking about that a little bit, I feel confused

2046
01:41:48,600 --> 01:41:52,040
Speaker 1: as to where the show is going. It strikes me

2047
01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:56,639
Speaker 1: that as this draft lead up has gone along, almost

2048
01:41:56,720 --> 01:41:58,640
Speaker 1: every couple of weeks, there's a new leader in the

2049
01:41:58,640 --> 01:42:01,360
Speaker 1: clubhouse for the Buffalo Bills. Clearly it's at Oliver right now.

2050
01:42:01,640 --> 01:42:03,360
Speaker 1: A couple of weeks ago, and maybe I was leading

2051
01:42:03,400 --> 01:42:05,479
Speaker 1: the charge for DK Metcalff right at the time with

2052
01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:08,280
Speaker 1: the combine dk Metcalf was a name on everybody's lips.

2053
01:42:08,479 --> 01:42:10,080
Speaker 1: We have a month to go until the draft. I

2054
01:42:10,120 --> 01:42:12,280
Speaker 1: would not be surprised if there's gonna be a couple

2055
01:42:12,320 --> 01:42:14,479
Speaker 1: of other names they come up as the people's choice

2056
01:42:14,720 --> 01:42:17,920
Speaker 1: for the Bills draft pick in a month. You were

2057
01:42:18,080 --> 01:42:20,599
Speaker 1: actually and you're the guy that brought up Montes Sweat

2058
01:42:21,080 --> 01:42:22,479
Speaker 1: And also what was the other name of the other

2059
01:42:22,560 --> 01:42:24,479
Speaker 1: wide receiver at the at the Senior Bowl that you

2060
01:42:24,600 --> 01:42:29,879
Speaker 1: really like that the young guys, right, but he's Debot.

2061
01:42:30,760 --> 01:42:33,080
Speaker 1: There's some guy, and you're right, and I think you know,

2062
01:42:33,160 --> 01:42:35,320
Speaker 1: you think about it. It's kind of a good thing. Yeah,

2063
01:42:35,920 --> 01:42:39,240
Speaker 1: because they're all different positions and all different players. And

2064
01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:42,280
Speaker 1: I think it speaks to the fact that the Bills fans,

2065
01:42:42,320 --> 01:42:44,080
Speaker 1: and I think maybe all of us and the Bills

2066
01:42:44,840 --> 01:42:47,280
Speaker 1: ostensibly the front office as well, feels like they're in

2067
01:42:47,320 --> 01:42:48,800
Speaker 1: a finally in a spot where they can take the

2068
01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:51,479
Speaker 1: best guy that's there, the guy they have the highest rated,

2069
01:42:51,479 --> 01:42:53,639
Speaker 1: the guy who's gonna be the best at his position,

2070
01:42:53,960 --> 01:42:56,439
Speaker 1: no matter what that position is, whether it's a defensive tackle,

2071
01:42:56,560 --> 01:43:01,680
Speaker 1: defensive end, wide receiver, tight end, you name it. I

2072
01:43:01,720 --> 01:43:04,000
Speaker 1: think that's a great spot for the for the team

2073
01:43:04,040 --> 01:43:07,880
Speaker 1: to be in when a lot of people think there's

2074
01:43:07,880 --> 01:43:10,160
Speaker 1: a lot you know, you can you don't see the

2075
01:43:10,240 --> 01:43:12,240
Speaker 1: glaring weaknesses that you did just a month and a

2076
01:43:12,280 --> 01:43:15,439
Speaker 1: half ago. Well yeah, and that's a function of free agency,

2077
01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:18,519
Speaker 1: right And I think that's been the single most important

2078
01:43:18,640 --> 01:43:21,720
Speaker 1: changeup in what people believe the Bills should do or

2079
01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:24,519
Speaker 1: might do, is the fact that they added fourteen new

2080
01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:27,240
Speaker 1: players since free agency began, five of them on the

2081
01:43:27,320 --> 01:43:29,920
Speaker 1: offensive line. You know, if we did this poll three

2082
01:43:29,960 --> 01:43:32,599
Speaker 1: weeks ago, I guarantee you we'd have an offensive lineman

2083
01:43:32,640 --> 01:43:34,719
Speaker 1: in that group. Right now, it doesn't seem like offensive

2084
01:43:34,760 --> 01:43:37,800
Speaker 1: line is on anybody's list of early draft priorities for

2085
01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:39,760
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. And as they said, it could change,

2086
01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:42,320
Speaker 1: you know, as people do. Pro look Ed Oliver got

2087
01:43:42,320 --> 01:43:45,200
Speaker 1: all kinds of antice. I mean, you heard Great Cosell

2088
01:43:45,280 --> 01:43:47,599
Speaker 1: earlier on our show talking about his pro day yesterday,

2089
01:43:47,920 --> 01:43:50,400
Speaker 1: the great piece of video of Sean McDermott going head

2090
01:43:50,400 --> 01:43:53,000
Speaker 1: to head with Ed Oliver and his pro day yesterday.

2091
01:43:53,040 --> 01:43:54,840
Speaker 1: I think all of a sudden, people are looking at

2092
01:43:54,920 --> 01:43:57,439
Speaker 1: him as as a botified prospect and a possible fit

2093
01:43:57,800 --> 01:44:00,519
Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bills. And I'm saying there are events

2094
01:44:00,600 --> 01:44:02,679
Speaker 1: that may come down the road here, more pro days,

2095
01:44:02,720 --> 01:44:06,479
Speaker 1: more testing coming up that might might tilt that a

2096
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Speaker 1: little bit. Maybe we go somewhere else, Maybe we get

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01:44:08,360 --> 01:44:10,560
Speaker 1: to the tight ends as the number one prospect for

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01:44:10,600 --> 01:44:12,439
Speaker 1: the Bills. Yeah, and you look at this. We're watching

2099
01:44:12,520 --> 01:44:15,400
Speaker 1: some highlights right now as we're talking about with Ed Oliver,

2100
01:44:15,560 --> 01:44:19,280
Speaker 1: and you're right, Greg Coselwi who just had on The

2101
01:44:19,360 --> 01:44:22,320
Speaker 1: guy moves like a big running back. I mean, he's

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01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:25,880
Speaker 1: that agile and that quick. The problem is he's he's

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01:44:25,960 --> 01:44:29,120
Speaker 1: six two and doesn't he weighs about two eighty two

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01:44:29,200 --> 01:44:33,160
Speaker 1: eighty five two eighty probably be down around two seventy

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01:44:33,160 --> 01:44:35,479
Speaker 1: five to two eighty as a player. Don't know if

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01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:39,200
Speaker 1: he's got the girth that wait to play down inside

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01:44:39,240 --> 01:44:42,920
Speaker 1: at the NFL level. That remains to be seen. That's

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01:44:43,240 --> 01:44:45,680
Speaker 1: that's the only thing that would keep you from saying, Wow,

2109
01:44:45,760 --> 01:44:48,280
Speaker 1: this guy's a top five draft pick. Maybe is because

2110
01:44:48,280 --> 01:44:50,640
Speaker 1: of his athleticism and his measurables. He might not be

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01:44:50,720 --> 01:44:52,519
Speaker 1: big enough. And that's one of the people on the

2112
01:44:52,560 --> 01:44:54,960
Speaker 1: tweet sheets said he might. Look, you're talking about an

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01:44:55,000 --> 01:44:57,439
Speaker 1: interior defensive lineman. This is not an edge rush guy.

2114
01:44:57,479 --> 01:44:59,600
Speaker 1: This is not Bruce Smith coming off the edgeway and

2115
01:44:59,680 --> 01:45:02,640
Speaker 1: what us go to sixty maybe two sixty. This is

2116
01:45:02,680 --> 01:45:04,519
Speaker 1: not him. This is a guy who may go to

2117
01:45:04,880 --> 01:45:08,000
Speaker 1: sixty five to seventy and you want him and you

2118
01:45:08,040 --> 01:45:09,800
Speaker 1: would play him in a spot where you need a

2119
01:45:09,800 --> 01:45:12,640
Speaker 1: little bit of anchorage in the middle of your defensive line. Now,

2120
01:45:12,680 --> 01:45:13,840
Speaker 1: I know you get a lot of that from Star

2121
01:45:13,960 --> 01:45:15,800
Speaker 1: Latu la Lay. He does a good job of that.

2122
01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:18,120
Speaker 1: And three technique is different. It's a different animal. I

2123
01:45:18,200 --> 01:45:20,280
Speaker 1: know you get that, and you want quickness and you

2124
01:45:20,360 --> 01:45:22,640
Speaker 1: want penetration. You want a guy who can blow up

2125
01:45:22,680 --> 01:45:24,720
Speaker 1: plays in the backfield and rush the passer. But for

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01:45:24,960 --> 01:45:28,120
Speaker 1: Ed Oliver, I'm sure the consideration for the Bills, after

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01:45:28,200 --> 01:45:30,720
Speaker 1: watching his pro day yesterday, I'm sure a major part

2128
01:45:30,760 --> 01:45:33,640
Speaker 1: of their consideration is is this guy big enough? Can

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01:45:33,760 --> 01:45:35,400
Speaker 1: he hold up in the wear and tear of the

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01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:39,680
Speaker 1: interior of an NFL offensive defensive line. I think that's

2131
01:45:39,680 --> 01:45:41,280
Speaker 1: a good question to ask. Yeah, he's got to be

2132
01:45:41,400 --> 01:45:46,639
Speaker 1: able to resist the push from a guard and a center,

2133
01:45:46,760 --> 01:45:50,000
Speaker 1: or a guard and a tackle when two guys come

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01:45:50,040 --> 01:45:52,240
Speaker 1: off the ball and try and push him out of

2135
01:45:52,240 --> 01:45:54,040
Speaker 1: the way. He's got to be able to anchor and

2136
01:45:54,160 --> 01:45:57,799
Speaker 1: not be moved. That's not easy, and it takes a big, strong,

2137
01:45:58,479 --> 01:46:02,799
Speaker 1: physically gifted guy to resist that pressure. That's what football

2138
01:46:02,880 --> 01:46:06,040
Speaker 1: is down inside there. You're an offense, you're moving big

2139
01:46:06,400 --> 01:46:11,639
Speaker 1: scary guys against their will, and on defense, you're refusing

2140
01:46:11,680 --> 01:46:14,280
Speaker 1: to be moved by big scary guys against your will.

2141
01:46:14,400 --> 01:46:18,000
Speaker 1: So is ed Oliver big enough to do that? Now?

2142
01:46:18,080 --> 01:46:21,080
Speaker 1: Certainly when you if you playing offenses or whoever else

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01:46:21,120 --> 01:46:24,280
Speaker 1: that are spreading it out and they're inviting the pass

2144
01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:26,519
Speaker 1: rush and they're you know, they're going five wides all

2145
01:46:26,560 --> 01:46:29,280
Speaker 1: the time, ed Oliver might be the guy you want

2146
01:46:29,360 --> 01:46:32,080
Speaker 1: because he can work in space, he can he can out,

2147
01:46:32,800 --> 01:46:35,400
Speaker 1: He's more agile than any of you guys he's facing.

2148
01:46:35,520 --> 01:46:38,600
Speaker 1: So maybe that would be a situation where if you

2149
01:46:38,680 --> 01:46:40,760
Speaker 1: think you can get that a lot, or if you

2150
01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:42,960
Speaker 1: need a guy to play that role in your game

2151
01:46:43,040 --> 01:46:44,880
Speaker 1: and your team, he may be the guy you want.

2152
01:46:44,920 --> 01:46:46,800
Speaker 1: I want to go back in time twenty five or

2153
01:46:46,880 --> 01:46:49,560
Speaker 1: more years ago Bill's history, Stephen, you are, you're on

2154
01:46:49,680 --> 01:46:52,599
Speaker 1: these teams, these are your teammates, and it was different

2155
01:46:52,640 --> 01:46:56,200
Speaker 1: era of pro football obviously, and a different defense. For sure.

2156
01:46:56,280 --> 01:46:58,400
Speaker 1: It was a straight three four defense that the Bills

2157
01:46:58,400 --> 01:47:00,840
Speaker 1: were playing and Fred SmartLess was the nose tackle, and

2158
01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:02,799
Speaker 1: he was an anchor, and he would occupy two blockers

2159
01:47:02,880 --> 01:47:05,200
Speaker 1: and and go to Pro Bowls and he was a great,

2160
01:47:05,280 --> 01:47:09,040
Speaker 1: great player, maybe the prototypical nose tackle in the NFL

2161
01:47:09,200 --> 01:47:11,519
Speaker 1: of that era. And they let Fred go, right, he

2162
01:47:11,560 --> 01:47:14,080
Speaker 1: went in free agency. I think he was invited to

2163
01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:16,240
Speaker 1: look somewhere else, and he wound up in San Francisco.

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01:47:16,960 --> 01:47:19,120
Speaker 1: He was replaced by a draft pick, Jeff Wright. He

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01:47:19,240 --> 01:47:22,320
Speaker 1: was not a high premium draft pick, and the Bills

2166
01:47:22,360 --> 01:47:24,040
Speaker 1: got by with Jeff right. Right, you went to Super

2167
01:47:24,080 --> 01:47:27,840
Speaker 1: Bowls with Jeffress. Yes, but he was too small. He

2168
01:47:27,960 --> 01:47:30,280
Speaker 1: was a fast, tipsy guy. He would run around blocks.

2169
01:47:30,360 --> 01:47:35,439
Speaker 1: He had a different way of playing the sport. And yeah, yeah,

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01:47:35,520 --> 01:47:37,560
Speaker 1: he was not Fred Smerless. He was too small and

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01:47:37,880 --> 01:47:39,760
Speaker 1: he was like there were times where that defense would

2172
01:47:40,040 --> 01:47:41,640
Speaker 1: would pay for it, the fact that he was not

2173
01:47:41,840 --> 01:47:44,599
Speaker 1: as big as you needed a prototype in the middle

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01:47:44,640 --> 01:47:47,200
Speaker 1: of that defense. And again I Acknowledg's totally different defense,

2175
01:47:47,600 --> 01:47:51,519
Speaker 1: totally different demands put on the nose tackle versus a

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01:47:51,600 --> 01:47:53,640
Speaker 1: three technique, which a guy like hy he was not

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01:47:53,720 --> 01:47:55,720
Speaker 1: built to play nose tackle. I'll give and I'll give

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01:47:55,720 --> 01:47:58,640
Speaker 1: you an example of how that changed. They had they

2179
01:47:58,680 --> 01:48:01,559
Speaker 1: went they had their run with Jeff Wright. When they

2180
01:48:01,760 --> 01:48:04,240
Speaker 1: changed away from that and Wade Phillips came in, the

2181
01:48:04,479 --> 01:48:07,520
Speaker 1: first thing they did was went out and got Ted Washington,

2182
01:48:07,760 --> 01:48:11,360
Speaker 1: who is maybe, in my opinion, the greatest nose tackle

2183
01:48:11,400 --> 01:48:14,320
Speaker 1: of all time, the best nose guard of all time

2184
01:48:14,360 --> 01:48:17,680
Speaker 1: in the NFL. He is the biggest human being you

2185
01:48:17,800 --> 01:48:22,439
Speaker 1: will ever sit next to. He's big from top to bottom. Now,

2186
01:48:22,520 --> 01:48:24,160
Speaker 1: he's not a seven footer or like an NBA, like

2187
01:48:24,200 --> 01:48:27,240
Speaker 1: a Shaquille O'Neil guy. But I'll tell you what if

2188
01:48:27,320 --> 01:48:29,479
Speaker 1: he and Shaq got into a fight, it's a coin flip.

2189
01:48:31,560 --> 01:48:37,160
Speaker 1: Ted is the biggest, most gifted guy you will ever

2190
01:48:37,360 --> 01:48:39,800
Speaker 1: stand next to in your life. And and I make

2191
01:48:39,880 --> 01:48:41,320
Speaker 1: this joke all the time. Or if you've heard me,

2192
01:48:41,360 --> 01:48:43,040
Speaker 1: I said, listen, I got used to being in that

2193
01:48:43,160 --> 01:48:45,519
Speaker 1: locker room. All of my buddies are all six five,

2194
01:48:45,680 --> 01:48:47,800
Speaker 1: they're all three hundred pound guys. Some of them are

2195
01:48:47,800 --> 01:48:49,120
Speaker 1: a little more a little let, but they're all a

2196
01:48:49,200 --> 01:48:51,320
Speaker 1: huge guy. You know, it's your environment, and said, work

2197
01:48:51,320 --> 01:48:53,559
Speaker 1: in my workspace, right, it's filled with these giant guys,

2198
01:48:54,280 --> 01:48:56,680
Speaker 1: and you get used to it. You just get used

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01:48:56,680 --> 01:48:59,480
Speaker 1: to having guys like that around. When we got ted Washington,

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01:49:00,640 --> 01:49:03,160
Speaker 1: it's the He's the only player I ever played with

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01:49:04,280 --> 01:49:07,479
Speaker 1: without fail. Every morning when I saw him for new

2202
01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:10,960
Speaker 1: a new time, a new day, I said, many day,

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01:49:11,120 --> 01:49:14,760
Speaker 1: that guy is big. He was so big. You I

2204
01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:18,040
Speaker 1: never got used to how big he was. He was

2205
01:49:18,200 --> 01:49:19,720
Speaker 1: big and he still is. We had him on the

2206
01:49:19,760 --> 01:49:23,000
Speaker 1: show a month ago. He's big, and you know he

2207
01:49:23,080 --> 01:49:26,680
Speaker 1: knew it too, and he could move he I think

2208
01:49:26,720 --> 01:49:28,160
Speaker 1: for a stretch of his career he was on a

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01:49:28,200 --> 01:49:30,040
Speaker 1: couple of different teams with San Francisco. He was with

2210
01:49:30,160 --> 01:49:32,320
Speaker 1: us for a few years. I played in New England,

2211
01:49:32,400 --> 01:49:36,800
Speaker 1: got got a World championship with them. Every defense he

2212
01:49:37,000 --> 01:49:39,679
Speaker 1: played on was in top five rush defense in the league.

2213
01:49:40,439 --> 01:49:44,000
Speaker 1: You could not move that guy. He was physically built

2214
01:49:44,040 --> 01:49:45,479
Speaker 1: to be a nose guard in the NFL. He's a

2215
01:49:45,680 --> 01:49:50,000
Speaker 1: championship wrestler at the collegiate level. Was really gifted with

2216
01:49:50,080 --> 01:49:52,240
Speaker 1: his hands, and and so you those are the guys

2217
01:49:52,280 --> 01:49:55,200
Speaker 1: you look for. If you're talking about a guy like

2218
01:49:55,760 --> 01:50:00,720
Speaker 1: like at Oliver, He's he's not that. That's not him.

2219
01:50:00,800 --> 01:50:02,280
Speaker 1: That's not his game. You're gonna have to ask him

2220
01:50:02,320 --> 01:50:04,280
Speaker 1: to do different things. There are certain things you're you

2221
01:50:04,400 --> 01:50:06,320
Speaker 1: ask your players to do what they do best. That's

2222
01:50:06,360 --> 01:50:08,320
Speaker 1: why you draft him, so you can get that out

2223
01:50:08,360 --> 01:50:10,120
Speaker 1: of them. And if they can do more than one

2224
01:50:10,200 --> 01:50:13,040
Speaker 1: thing good, that's great. But he's not going to be

2225
01:50:13,080 --> 01:50:14,720
Speaker 1: a guy like Ted Washington. He's not gonna be a

2226
01:50:14,800 --> 01:50:16,680
Speaker 1: guy like Star Lotulele. He's not going to be a

2227
01:50:16,720 --> 01:50:19,240
Speaker 1: guy like fred smerlis was. He's gonna be his kind

2228
01:50:19,280 --> 01:50:21,280
Speaker 1: of player. And that's you know, that's that sound bite

2229
01:50:21,320 --> 01:50:23,800
Speaker 1: we heard from Sean Payton, right, Yeah, you got to

2230
01:50:23,840 --> 01:50:25,519
Speaker 1: get the best out of the guys you've got. Yeah,

2231
01:50:25,920 --> 01:50:29,679
Speaker 1: let's take your phone call here from Tim in Depew. Hello, Tim, Yeah,

2232
01:50:29,720 --> 01:50:32,400
Speaker 1: how are you doing? John? Good? Listen. You know, I

2233
01:50:32,800 --> 01:50:35,360
Speaker 1: know I've called last year about this and I want

2234
01:50:35,360 --> 01:50:36,880
Speaker 1: to say it again this year. I think if the

2235
01:50:36,960 --> 01:50:40,960
Speaker 1: Bills really want to improve their defense, what they need

2236
01:50:41,040 --> 01:50:45,880
Speaker 1: to do is draft the number one middle linebacker that's

2237
01:50:45,960 --> 01:50:50,160
Speaker 1: white and move Tremaine Edmunds outside where his speed and

2238
01:50:50,280 --> 01:50:54,960
Speaker 1: his length, well, you would be better utilized to either

2239
01:50:55,080 --> 01:50:59,759
Speaker 1: rush the passer or to cover cover tight ends. Because

2240
01:51:00,160 --> 01:51:03,160
Speaker 1: right now he is not a middle linebacker. And all

2241
01:51:03,200 --> 01:51:06,720
Speaker 1: he happened. Who has watched the second New England game

2242
01:51:06,760 --> 01:51:08,920
Speaker 1: and watch all the times that he was out of

2243
01:51:09,000 --> 01:51:12,120
Speaker 1: position or just got sealed off it was unable to

2244
01:51:12,160 --> 01:51:16,200
Speaker 1: come off of the blocks. Uh, that's the direction I

2245
01:51:16,280 --> 01:51:18,360
Speaker 1: think the Bills need to take. Jim, I think you're

2246
01:51:18,360 --> 01:51:22,799
Speaker 1: absolutely off your rocker. And you're advocating Devin White LSU linebacker.

2247
01:51:22,880 --> 01:51:25,040
Speaker 1: That's okay? You like okay? Tim, here, let me just

2248
01:51:25,120 --> 01:51:27,519
Speaker 1: tell you what I think about. Their defense was the

2249
01:51:27,600 --> 01:51:31,240
Speaker 1: top three in the National Football League. Their offense was last.

2250
01:51:32,240 --> 01:51:34,320
Speaker 1: Why would you think they need to draft a middle

2251
01:51:34,360 --> 01:51:37,200
Speaker 1: linebacker when they just spent a number a sixteen pick

2252
01:51:37,280 --> 01:51:40,800
Speaker 1: overall and a middle linebacker who who is in the

2253
01:51:40,880 --> 01:51:44,040
Speaker 1: All Rookie team and he's like gonna be twenty one

2254
01:51:44,120 --> 01:51:48,479
Speaker 1: years old? And you think, why would you do that? Steve?

2255
01:51:48,600 --> 01:51:50,880
Speaker 1: Could you do me a favor? Yeah, when you when

2256
01:51:50,920 --> 01:51:53,960
Speaker 1: you go when you go home today, watch the second

2257
01:51:54,040 --> 01:51:59,040
Speaker 1: New England game and watch all the plays where Edmonds

2258
01:51:59,720 --> 01:52:03,680
Speaker 1: got fuel laf where he had absolutely no ability to

2259
01:52:03,800 --> 01:52:06,439
Speaker 1: come off a blocks to he would make a whiff

2260
01:52:06,479 --> 01:52:09,679
Speaker 1: of a tackle of his life dependent upon it. Tim,

2261
01:52:09,760 --> 01:52:13,000
Speaker 1: you're telling me the Bills should take could I don't

2262
01:52:13,000 --> 01:52:14,680
Speaker 1: even know if I want him go up down this whole.

2263
01:52:14,720 --> 01:52:17,120
Speaker 1: I think you're nuts. You're telling me a team with

2264
01:52:17,240 --> 01:52:20,599
Speaker 1: a top five defense in the National Football League should

2265
01:52:20,680 --> 01:52:23,320
Speaker 1: scrap their number one draft pick on that side of

2266
01:52:23,360 --> 01:52:25,200
Speaker 1: the ball because of one bad game against the New

2267
01:52:25,280 --> 01:52:28,360
Speaker 1: England Patriots, who were World champions. Bad game. It was

2268
01:52:28,479 --> 01:52:31,880
Speaker 1: throughout the season, throughout the season, the season where he's

2269
01:52:32,360 --> 01:52:36,800
Speaker 1: he had a chance to be defensive Rookie of the Year. Yeah, yeah, sir,

2270
01:52:37,120 --> 01:52:39,200
Speaker 1: you know what, tim What do you mean? Yes, sir,

2271
01:52:39,920 --> 01:52:43,400
Speaker 1: he makes five good players run a game, but makes

2272
01:52:43,520 --> 01:52:46,880
Speaker 1: ten where he's out of position or cannot come off

2273
01:52:46,920 --> 01:52:49,200
Speaker 1: a block. So you think they should Really, what yourself

2274
01:52:49,240 --> 01:52:51,719
Speaker 1: telling me is Tremaine Edmonds should be traded or gotten

2275
01:52:51,800 --> 01:52:54,280
Speaker 1: rid of because he's that bad. I'm not saying that

2276
01:52:54,360 --> 01:52:57,479
Speaker 1: at all. See, I was saying he belongs outside where

2277
01:52:57,560 --> 01:53:03,400
Speaker 1: he can utilize his speed and his lengths to be

2278
01:53:03,560 --> 01:53:08,439
Speaker 1: more like a miller from the denver, or his speed

2279
01:53:08,479 --> 01:53:11,080
Speaker 1: will get them to the quarterback, or because of the

2280
01:53:11,200 --> 01:53:14,679
Speaker 1: size of the speed, he can cover the tight ends

2281
01:53:14,760 --> 01:53:16,760
Speaker 1: or the running backs coming out of the back bill.

2282
01:53:17,040 --> 01:53:20,639
Speaker 1: So okay, So, after all, watching the Buffalo Bills entire team,

2283
01:53:20,760 --> 01:53:23,400
Speaker 1: not just their defense, but you're watching the Bills entire team,

2284
01:53:23,800 --> 01:53:29,120
Speaker 1: their wide receivers, their offensive line, their defensive front, their secondary,

2285
01:53:29,320 --> 01:53:31,840
Speaker 1: watching them through all of this the offseason, watching all

2286
01:53:31,880 --> 01:53:34,639
Speaker 1: the things they went through last year, Go six and ten.

2287
01:53:35,120 --> 01:53:37,960
Speaker 1: You're telling me that their biggest problem is their middle

2288
01:53:38,000 --> 01:53:41,960
Speaker 1: linebacker on a defense that was top five opportunity to improve.

2289
01:53:43,280 --> 01:53:45,880
Speaker 1: That's where you think they need to improve. Yes, sir

2290
01:53:46,040 --> 01:53:53,200
Speaker 1: r Tim, you are absolutely crazy. You are absolutely crazy

2291
01:53:53,280 --> 01:53:55,960
Speaker 1: to think the middle linebacking spot for the Buffalo Bills

2292
01:53:56,120 --> 01:53:59,160
Speaker 1: is the spot where they can improve. Now, I'll tell

2293
01:53:59,200 --> 01:54:01,439
Speaker 1: you what you can say. I was crazy, but I'm

2294
01:54:01,439 --> 01:54:03,439
Speaker 1: gonna tell you Steve. You can call me crazy too.

2295
01:54:03,479 --> 01:54:05,400
Speaker 1: That's fine because we're all in this together. But go

2296
01:54:05,439 --> 01:54:09,719
Speaker 1: ahead get rid of Tiburt. John Butler said I was crazy,

2297
01:54:09,840 --> 01:54:11,720
Speaker 1: and two weeks later he was calling for his job

2298
01:54:11,800 --> 01:54:14,600
Speaker 1: and Tilburt's gone. What I called him? Said that we

2299
01:54:14,680 --> 01:54:19,080
Speaker 1: had no business but the ride wide receiver, keeping the

2300
01:54:19,120 --> 01:54:24,120
Speaker 1: wide receiver that we got from the Panther from Carolina. Yeah,

2301
01:54:24,280 --> 01:54:26,600
Speaker 1: he told you, always creating. Well, I'll tell you what.

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01:54:27,320 --> 01:54:32,000
Speaker 1: I might be crazy, but I'm right. Okay, good, okay,

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Speaker 1: thanks Tom, appreciate it. Uh. Nobody asked me, but I

2304
01:54:36,440 --> 01:54:39,040
Speaker 1: think you're both overstating your cases. Well, you got to

2305
01:54:39,800 --> 01:54:42,200
Speaker 1: try to make a point. Yeah, exactly, You're exaggerated to

2306
01:54:42,240 --> 01:54:44,200
Speaker 1: make your point in an argument. So I get it.

2307
01:54:44,320 --> 01:54:46,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, what do you think? What do you think

2308
01:54:46,600 --> 01:54:48,240
Speaker 1: I've told you? I'm started to tell you. I think

2309
01:54:48,280 --> 01:54:50,200
Speaker 1: you're both overstating your cases. I don't think for me

2310
01:54:50,240 --> 01:54:52,760
Speaker 1: and Edmonds was a problem. I think he could get better.

2311
01:54:53,080 --> 01:54:55,880
Speaker 1: And I'm a little bit intrigued by saying, I wonder

2312
01:54:55,920 --> 01:54:57,960
Speaker 1: how it would be on the outside. Uh, you know,

2313
01:54:58,000 --> 01:54:59,920
Speaker 1: obviously you don't want to create a hole and you're

2314
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:02,000
Speaker 1: I have to draft somebody or find somebody to go

2315
01:55:02,040 --> 01:55:04,280
Speaker 1: on the inside. But I find myself thinking with his length,

2316
01:55:04,640 --> 01:55:07,480
Speaker 1: as the caller pointed out, and with his athleticism, I

2317
01:55:07,560 --> 01:55:09,280
Speaker 1: wonder how he'd be out there. So I don't rule

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01:55:09,320 --> 01:55:11,600
Speaker 1: it out. On the other hand, Um, but I think

2319
01:55:11,680 --> 01:55:14,080
Speaker 1: Jim overstates it by saying it's the biggest issue to solve.

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01:55:14,120 --> 01:55:17,000
Speaker 1: It is not Tim the other I think you overstated it.

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01:55:17,080 --> 01:55:18,640
Speaker 1: I mean Tremaine had a good year. He didn't have

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01:55:18,640 --> 01:55:21,040
Speaker 1: a great year. Um, he was not really in the

2323
01:55:21,080 --> 01:55:24,240
Speaker 1: conversation for defensive rookie in the year, not really at all. Um.

2324
01:55:24,320 --> 01:55:26,200
Speaker 1: There were others who played better. Then here's my point.

2325
01:55:26,520 --> 01:55:29,680
Speaker 1: So here's you're gonna move Tremaine outside. So Matt Milano,

2326
01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:31,280
Speaker 1: kid who was headed to the Pro Bowl? Sits down?

2327
01:55:31,360 --> 01:55:33,560
Speaker 1: Or is it Lorenzo Alexander that sits down? Was Milano

2328
01:55:33,600 --> 01:55:35,440
Speaker 1: had to do the Pro Bowl? There's some people who

2329
01:55:35,480 --> 01:55:38,040
Speaker 1: thought he had a chance. Find him and where are there?

2330
01:55:39,040 --> 01:55:41,160
Speaker 1: So Matt Milano, So you have no problem sitting Matt

2331
01:55:41,200 --> 01:55:44,680
Speaker 1: Milano down, taking him off the field. I'm intrigued, But

2332
01:55:44,800 --> 01:55:46,760
Speaker 1: you can't put twelve guys on the field. Who sits

2333
01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:50,920
Speaker 1: You can't who's been intrigued by wondering what Tremaine would

2334
01:55:50,920 --> 01:55:52,480
Speaker 1: look like on the outside. That's all I'm saying in

2335
01:55:52,560 --> 01:55:55,960
Speaker 1: place of who, I don't know, Milano, Lorenzo, somebody right,

2336
01:55:56,040 --> 01:55:57,920
Speaker 1: So you got all right. I'm not saying make the move.

2337
01:55:57,960 --> 01:56:00,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying it's it's worth thinking about. You both. Look,

2338
01:56:00,960 --> 01:56:03,200
Speaker 1: neither one of you are dead wrong, and I don't

2339
01:56:03,200 --> 01:56:06,000
Speaker 1: think either. I think both you, you and Tim are

2340
01:56:06,080 --> 01:56:10,120
Speaker 1: overstating your arguments. I think you're both the exaggerating. But

2341
01:56:10,760 --> 01:56:14,000
Speaker 1: to suggestively admit I'll exaggerate once in a while, to

2342
01:56:14,120 --> 01:56:16,960
Speaker 1: suggest that the Tremaine might do well on the outside.

2343
01:56:17,000 --> 01:56:20,520
Speaker 1: I don't think it's as crazy as you portray it. Okay,

2344
01:56:20,760 --> 01:56:24,280
Speaker 1: let's go to Allen and Lancaster. Hello, Allen, all right,

2345
01:56:24,320 --> 01:56:28,080
Speaker 1: how are you doing good? We're okay. I'm okay. Sop

2346
01:56:28,200 --> 01:56:31,480
Speaker 1: in on this thing too. I'd like to see Tremaine

2347
01:56:31,680 --> 01:56:34,680
Speaker 1: at times get a few shots at being on the

2348
01:56:34,800 --> 01:56:37,880
Speaker 1: outside to rush the passa but I'd like to see

2349
01:56:37,960 --> 01:56:40,120
Speaker 1: him rush the pass the more. But that's the most

2350
01:56:40,240 --> 01:56:43,360
Speaker 1: the reason I called okay calling about the cheating scandal,

2351
01:56:43,680 --> 01:56:46,320
Speaker 1: I mean cheating the new rule, but cheating, yeah, right,

2352
01:56:46,440 --> 01:56:50,280
Speaker 1: right right, scandal. It's not a scandal yet. That's not

2353
01:56:50,360 --> 01:56:54,320
Speaker 1: a scandal yet. But here's the thing, would have it's

2354
01:56:54,320 --> 01:56:58,080
Speaker 1: been a scandal if the war has been enacted a

2355
01:56:58,240 --> 01:57:03,680
Speaker 1: year before and what happened at the Ram Saints game

2356
01:57:04,400 --> 01:57:07,560
Speaker 1: happened after. This will be after if the war had

2357
01:57:07,600 --> 01:57:11,360
Speaker 1: been in effect, what would have people thought about the

2358
01:57:11,480 --> 01:57:15,320
Speaker 1: referee who made that horrendous call. It's a fair question,

2359
01:57:15,400 --> 01:57:17,720
Speaker 1: that's a fair question, and we kind of touched on

2360
01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:22,680
Speaker 1: that possibility because whenever you do this, you know, Alan,

2361
01:57:23,280 --> 01:57:25,760
Speaker 1: the question has to be asked. Now right, you put

2362
01:57:25,800 --> 01:57:28,640
Speaker 1: yourself out there, it's gonna be legal. The question has

2363
01:57:28,680 --> 01:57:30,080
Speaker 1: to be is How are you going to keep it,

2364
01:57:32,440 --> 01:57:36,120
Speaker 1: you know, fair? How are you gonna be truthful? How

2365
01:57:36,120 --> 01:57:38,720
Speaker 1: are you going to make sure that it's not fixed

2366
01:57:38,760 --> 01:57:40,400
Speaker 1: in some way, shape or form. How do you know that?

2367
01:57:40,560 --> 01:57:43,960
Speaker 1: How do you how do you assure the public forget

2368
01:57:44,000 --> 01:57:46,280
Speaker 1: the people who bet, how about the other people who

2369
01:57:46,400 --> 01:57:48,040
Speaker 1: don't bet? Though? Would you just want to watch? How

2370
01:57:48,080 --> 01:57:49,480
Speaker 1: are you going to make sure that they can be

2371
01:57:49,640 --> 01:57:52,240
Speaker 1: confident that that kind of stuff is not going to happen.

2372
01:57:52,320 --> 01:57:54,720
Speaker 1: And I think that's the part that Alan suggests could

2373
01:57:54,760 --> 01:57:57,800
Speaker 1: be the problem. The perception. Yeah, right, Alan, it's a perception.

2374
01:57:57,840 --> 01:58:00,640
Speaker 1: You got this horrible miscall in the NFC Championship game.

2375
01:58:00,840 --> 01:58:03,600
Speaker 1: One team goes to Super Bowl, the other doesn't. Whether

2376
01:58:03,720 --> 01:58:07,360
Speaker 1: or not the referee was involved in cheating related to gambling,

2377
01:58:07,560 --> 01:58:10,440
Speaker 1: it almost doesn't matter. The perception might be that that

2378
01:58:10,560 --> 01:58:12,600
Speaker 1: had something to do with it, and that really damages

2379
01:58:12,680 --> 01:58:14,240
Speaker 1: the game. I think. Is that what you're saying, Allen,

2380
01:58:15,240 --> 01:58:18,000
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I'm saying. It's a perception that kills you.

2381
01:58:18,080 --> 01:58:21,840
Speaker 1: Perception that is a major problem. Yeah. I don't think

2382
01:58:21,920 --> 01:58:25,760
Speaker 1: the problem is so much in football because in football,

2383
01:58:25,880 --> 01:58:29,120
Speaker 1: the only person who really of the players who can

2384
01:58:29,240 --> 01:58:33,920
Speaker 1: really influence a game unequivocally as a quarterback. I think

2385
01:58:33,960 --> 01:58:37,040
Speaker 1: the problem is more when you get into sports like basketball,

2386
01:58:37,960 --> 01:58:43,000
Speaker 1: where many players can potentially influence a game and there's

2387
01:58:43,080 --> 01:58:46,240
Speaker 1: only five players playing at one time. I think the

2388
01:58:46,360 --> 01:58:50,880
Speaker 1: problem is much more for other sports than for football. Okay, yeah,

2389
01:58:50,960 --> 01:58:53,400
Speaker 1: I can see that too, but you know, you know,

2390
01:58:53,600 --> 01:58:56,200
Speaker 1: never say never, but you're right, it is more difficult.

2391
01:58:56,240 --> 01:58:58,560
Speaker 1: The fewer people involved, the easier it is. And that's

2392
01:58:59,440 --> 01:59:03,840
Speaker 1: why it lends itself to the suspicion when this becomes

2393
01:59:03,920 --> 01:59:07,000
Speaker 1: part of the conversation. And my contention is, and that's

2394
01:59:07,040 --> 01:59:10,560
Speaker 1: why I don't want legalized sports gambling. The more mainstream,

2395
01:59:10,600 --> 01:59:14,080
Speaker 1: the more prevalent legalized sports gambling is, the more opportunities

2396
01:59:14,120 --> 01:59:17,080
Speaker 1: there is for legal sports gambling, the more questions will

2397
01:59:17,080 --> 01:59:19,280
Speaker 1: be asked, and you know, the more questions to be asked.

2398
01:59:19,320 --> 01:59:21,360
Speaker 1: Like Allen talked about our others have talked about it,

2399
01:59:21,360 --> 01:59:23,360
Speaker 1: and I don't think that's good for the sport. That's

2400
01:59:23,440 --> 01:59:26,320
Speaker 1: just my and I. You kind of have to agree

2401
01:59:26,360 --> 01:59:27,880
Speaker 1: with that. Even though even if you think it's going

2402
01:59:27,920 --> 01:59:32,440
Speaker 1: to be a non factor or not, you know, prevalent,

2403
01:59:32,520 --> 01:59:34,840
Speaker 1: he's still gotta think gosh, you know, it's all the

2404
01:59:34,880 --> 01:59:36,840
Speaker 1: better off without it. This is the two words I

2405
01:59:36,920 --> 01:59:39,840
Speaker 1: wonder if are three words. I wonder if that that

2406
01:59:40,000 --> 01:59:42,280
Speaker 1: damages the game? Yeah, one more you gotta call here

2407
01:59:42,360 --> 01:59:45,920
Speaker 1: from Nate in Rochester. Go ahead, Nate, you're on the air. Steve,

2408
01:59:47,160 --> 01:59:49,360
Speaker 1: you're one of my most favorite bills of all times.

2409
01:59:49,640 --> 01:59:53,600
Speaker 1: And I hate to prove you wrong on the airways,

2410
01:59:53,720 --> 01:59:59,320
Speaker 1: but right the line, I mean we're gonna say, well,

2411
01:59:59,440 --> 02:00:02,240
Speaker 1: we thank you. The wheel here talking about taking Sean

2412
02:00:02,360 --> 02:00:07,879
Speaker 1: mcdermot's Carolina defense with Keekley and Thomas Davis and Shack Thompson.

2413
02:00:08,240 --> 02:00:10,880
Speaker 1: We're doing the same thing here in Buffalo. Zone's what

2414
02:00:11,120 --> 02:00:13,920
Speaker 1: thirty five. I'm thirty two and I heard every day,

2415
02:00:14,240 --> 02:00:17,920
Speaker 1: so I don't know, but I get you. If you're moving,

2416
02:00:18,360 --> 02:00:20,880
Speaker 1: If you're moving. Tremaine admitted to the outside. I love

2417
02:00:20,960 --> 02:00:22,880
Speaker 1: him at the middle lineback. Don't get me wrong. I

2418
02:00:23,000 --> 02:00:25,720
Speaker 1: love Tremaine as a middle lineback. But if you can

2419
02:00:25,800 --> 02:00:29,160
Speaker 1: improve and move Tremaine outside, so he's a strong side.

2420
02:00:29,160 --> 02:00:31,760
Speaker 1: And then you got Matt Milano who's coming off in

2421
02:00:31,840 --> 02:00:33,760
Speaker 1: a CL two. You don't know how he's going to

2422
02:00:33,800 --> 02:00:35,400
Speaker 1: perform this year. It's not an a c L, it's

2423
02:00:35,440 --> 02:00:38,280
Speaker 1: a it's just a Fibia break. It's just yeah, it's

2424
02:00:38,640 --> 02:00:41,000
Speaker 1: it's an ankle. Yeah, he'll be all right. Milano's already

2425
02:00:41,000 --> 02:00:43,280
Speaker 1: out here. Run. I've seen Milana running in the building,

2426
02:00:43,920 --> 02:00:46,280
Speaker 1: so he's on his way back. But yeah, okay, listen,

2427
02:00:46,360 --> 02:00:50,520
Speaker 1: not I've never I didn't, I would be and I'm

2428
02:00:50,560 --> 02:00:52,640
Speaker 1: not saying it can't happen. And you guys maybe way

2429
02:00:52,880 --> 02:00:55,240
Speaker 1: you and Tim maybe Nate maybe a way ahead of

2430
02:00:55,280 --> 02:00:58,480
Speaker 1: the curve and saying they're gonna move Tremaine Edmonds outside.

2431
02:00:58,800 --> 02:01:00,760
Speaker 1: I haven't heard a whisper about in this building, not

2432
02:01:00,840 --> 02:01:05,320
Speaker 1: that they're talking about it, but I would be shocked,

2433
02:01:05,360 --> 02:01:07,920
Speaker 1: beyond belief if they took a little inside linebacker in

2434
02:01:08,000 --> 02:01:12,000
Speaker 1: this draft at number nine or number forty. Thanks Nate,

2435
02:01:12,040 --> 02:01:14,080
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break. We've got the NFL True

2436
02:01:14,080 --> 02:01:16,720
Speaker 1: and False coming up. One Bill's Live, presented by Kalata

2437
02:01:16,800 --> 02:01:19,280
Speaker 1: Health from One Bill's Driving. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio.

2438
02:01:32,080 --> 02:01:33,640
Speaker 1: About twenty three minutes left in the show. It's been

2439
02:01:33,640 --> 02:01:36,960
Speaker 1: a difficult show today. I feels what are you laughing about?

2440
02:01:37,560 --> 02:01:39,600
Speaker 1: It's just been it's hard to for some reason. They

2441
02:01:39,600 --> 02:01:44,440
Speaker 1: got a shouting match with Tim. Yeah, that's down. Out

2442
02:01:44,520 --> 02:01:48,920
Speaker 1: of my life, out of my comfort zone. Sorry uh.

2443
02:01:49,320 --> 02:01:51,520
Speaker 1: A couple of issues to discuss in the remaining minutes,

2444
02:01:51,560 --> 02:01:54,880
Speaker 1: including if New York legalizes gambling would lead to cheating.

2445
02:01:55,600 --> 02:01:58,160
Speaker 1: We cited to pull a Seaton Hall poll that said

2446
02:01:58,400 --> 02:02:01,760
Speaker 1: most people ask said they believe it would eighty percent

2447
02:02:01,880 --> 02:02:06,080
Speaker 1: or so said yes, players might cheat and officials might cheat.

2448
02:02:06,360 --> 02:02:10,440
Speaker 1: The other part of our bifurcated pole today, which draft

2449
02:02:10,520 --> 02:02:12,880
Speaker 1: prospect could be most beneficial to the Bills and the

2450
02:02:13,000 --> 02:02:17,000
Speaker 1: tweet sheet, Kevin Marshall says t J. Hockinson the tight

2451
02:02:17,120 --> 02:02:18,680
Speaker 1: end from Eyewa. The Bills have not at a great

2452
02:02:18,720 --> 02:02:22,440
Speaker 1: tight end. The defenses have to worry about since Pete Metzlars,

2453
02:02:23,560 --> 02:02:25,960
Speaker 1: a young quarterback's best friend, is a tight end. Send

2454
02:02:26,040 --> 02:02:28,520
Speaker 1: Brown and Foster deep and let TJ. And Beasley worked

2455
02:02:28,560 --> 02:02:31,920
Speaker 1: the underneath. Did teams worry about your your buddy, your

2456
02:02:32,000 --> 02:02:35,240
Speaker 1: teammate Pete Metzelars, Yeah, I struck fear into their hearts,

2457
02:02:35,400 --> 02:02:39,320
Speaker 1: no question. That was my point. I seed that up

2458
02:02:39,360 --> 02:02:42,600
Speaker 1: so you could take a shot at your buddy. He's

2459
02:02:42,640 --> 02:02:44,640
Speaker 1: my he was my roommy man. He loved the six

2460
02:02:44,840 --> 02:02:49,600
Speaker 1: eight redhead could dunk Pete either straw. He was a

2461
02:02:49,880 --> 02:02:54,240
Speaker 1: national champion at the at Wabash College in basketball. Um

2462
02:02:54,920 --> 02:02:57,840
Speaker 1: drafted by the Seahawks, traded to the Buffalo Bills, and

2463
02:02:58,120 --> 02:03:00,440
Speaker 1: had played At the end of his career, he had

2464
02:03:00,520 --> 02:03:03,200
Speaker 1: played more games at tight end than anybody in NFL history.

2465
02:03:03,320 --> 02:03:06,880
Speaker 1: Of course that's been surpassed now. But uh, did he did?

2466
02:03:07,000 --> 02:03:10,040
Speaker 1: Defenses worry about Pete Metzelars. That was a contention from

2467
02:03:11,360 --> 02:03:15,840
Speaker 1: I'm thinking with Andre Reid and Thurman Thomas and James

2468
02:03:15,960 --> 02:03:21,640
Speaker 1: lofton uh three Hall of Famers, he might have if

2469
02:03:21,680 --> 02:03:23,400
Speaker 1: you go down far enough on the list. Yeah, they

2470
02:03:23,440 --> 02:03:27,520
Speaker 1: probably probably did. Okay, he was I'd say this, he

2471
02:03:27,600 --> 02:03:30,960
Speaker 1: was way above me on the list. As teams they

2472
02:03:31,000 --> 02:03:34,080
Speaker 1: had to as game plan for. Look, if the Bills

2473
02:03:34,120 --> 02:03:36,240
Speaker 1: get a tight end, I certainly don't think they need

2474
02:03:36,280 --> 02:03:39,280
Speaker 1: to do it at ninth overall, do they? If they

2475
02:03:39,320 --> 02:03:41,760
Speaker 1: get a tight end early and hopefully they moved down

2476
02:03:41,800 --> 02:03:43,480
Speaker 1: in somewhere in the second half of the first round.

2477
02:03:43,680 --> 02:03:47,040
Speaker 1: My question is this, you can name a handful of

2478
02:03:47,120 --> 02:03:51,080
Speaker 1: really good tight ends in the league, right, Yeah, only

2479
02:03:51,400 --> 02:04:00,840
Speaker 1: I have to say Gronk, Jimmy Graham, Kelsey approach right

2480
02:04:00,880 --> 02:04:05,480
Speaker 1: where he's passed you know who else? Right, So there's

2481
02:04:05,480 --> 02:04:07,600
Speaker 1: a lot of teams doing really well without a really

2482
02:04:07,680 --> 02:04:10,120
Speaker 1: great tight end. Certainly the Chiefs are doing well with it,

2483
02:04:10,200 --> 02:04:11,880
Speaker 1: but you know, I mean, I'm pretty sure they'd be

2484
02:04:11,920 --> 02:04:15,880
Speaker 1: doing good without Kelsey too. But um, you know, I

2485
02:04:15,960 --> 02:04:18,160
Speaker 1: don't know that the tight end is a great ingredient. Certainly,

2486
02:04:18,280 --> 02:04:20,520
Speaker 1: the Bills fans have been sick to death. I'm watching

2487
02:04:20,560 --> 02:04:22,560
Speaker 1: Gronkowski run up and down the field on him and

2488
02:04:22,640 --> 02:04:25,920
Speaker 1: everybody is. But he was a unique generational talent. Those

2489
02:04:25,960 --> 02:04:28,720
Speaker 1: guys don't come along very often for anybody. When the

2490
02:04:28,840 --> 02:04:31,440
Speaker 1: Bills fans are just you know, up to their necks

2491
02:04:32,080 --> 02:04:35,880
Speaker 1: watching Gronkowski and that guy do it. So I don't

2492
02:04:35,920 --> 02:04:37,520
Speaker 1: know that there's that many tight ends or if it's

2493
02:04:37,560 --> 02:04:39,960
Speaker 1: a real need. Certainly, if you have one, it's awesome.

2494
02:04:42,560 --> 02:04:46,040
Speaker 1: Maybe this guy from Iowa could be that. I don't

2495
02:04:46,080 --> 02:04:48,960
Speaker 1: know if you believe he could be. Okay, I could

2496
02:04:48,960 --> 02:04:50,800
Speaker 1: see it, but I don't. To me, and I know

2497
02:04:50,920 --> 02:04:53,520
Speaker 1: I'm I'm talking like an old guy here. All these

2498
02:04:53,560 --> 02:04:54,960
Speaker 1: guys are the same until they get up here and

2499
02:04:55,040 --> 02:04:57,480
Speaker 1: let me look at him, you know, yeah, Lette get

2500
02:04:57,760 --> 02:05:01,440
Speaker 1: his hands on him. Yeah, NFL true or false. We

2501
02:05:02,000 --> 02:05:04,200
Speaker 1: promoted it yesterday, We teased it yesterday. I think this

2502
02:05:04,320 --> 02:05:06,080
Speaker 1: is a good one. We'll see if we can avoid

2503
02:05:06,120 --> 02:05:08,120
Speaker 1: screwing it up. True or false Brought to you by

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Speaker 1: Yancey's Fancy New York's Artist in chiefs True or false.

2505
02:05:11,480 --> 02:05:14,640
Speaker 1: The Patriots should make a run at quarterback Josh Rosen

2506
02:05:14,680 --> 02:05:18,880
Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. A reporter for Where's He from

2507
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Speaker 1: Undisputed dot Com says, there are three teams that I've

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Speaker 1: heard and I know are very interested in Josh Rosen,

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Speaker 1: New England, the Giants, and the Chargers. One of those

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Speaker 1: have already offered a second round pick Arizona waiting for

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Speaker 1: a first I don't think they'll get it. That's what

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Speaker 1: Joel Klatt, reporter for the Undisputed box Sports ones the

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Speaker 1: Undisputed said, three teams, New England, Giants, and the Chargers

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Speaker 1: very interested in Josh Rosen. Two or false. The Patriots

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Speaker 1: should make a run at Rosen. I say true. You

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02:05:46,000 --> 02:05:48,640
Speaker 1: know Tom Brady's not going to play forever. This is

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Speaker 1: a first round pick a year ago, a very strong

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Speaker 1: college career. He's not a guaranteed product. He did not

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Speaker 1: have a great year on the worst team in the league.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, it's worth the shot. If I'm the New

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02:06:01,680 --> 02:06:04,520
Speaker 1: England Patriots. If they can get a Josh Rosen for

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Speaker 1: a second rounder this year, absolutely they should make a run.

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02:06:07,520 --> 02:06:09,560
Speaker 1: I say true. I say true as well. It's a

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02:06:09,600 --> 02:06:11,920
Speaker 1: smart move by a team who need who doesn't need

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02:06:12,000 --> 02:06:14,520
Speaker 1: him to play right away. Obviously, tom Brady's gonna take

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Speaker 1: snaps as long as he wants to take snaps. Rosen

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02:06:17,240 --> 02:06:19,600
Speaker 1: could get in there and get acclimated, learn the culture,

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02:06:19,920 --> 02:06:23,000
Speaker 1: watch what goes on, and not have any pressure to

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Speaker 1: perform on the field at all. He will never see

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02:06:26,320 --> 02:06:28,720
Speaker 1: the field until tom Brady's gone, and that could give

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02:06:28,840 --> 02:06:32,080
Speaker 1: him one year, two year, even three years before they

2532
02:06:33,880 --> 02:06:36,760
Speaker 1: before they need him to be any good, and they

2533
02:06:36,800 --> 02:06:40,480
Speaker 1: could sign him to an extension for peanuts. No, and

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02:06:40,520 --> 02:06:43,360
Speaker 1: that he hasn't proven anything and he might take it,

2535
02:06:43,440 --> 02:06:45,200
Speaker 1: so they could. They could tie him up for a

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Speaker 1: long time with a pretty cap friendly As for the

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Speaker 1: position as a quarterback, Yeah, I think it's a great

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02:06:52,600 --> 02:06:55,040
Speaker 1: move for the New England Patriots. I think it's a

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02:06:55,080 --> 02:06:58,080
Speaker 1: great move for the Giants as well. Yeah. I think

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02:06:58,120 --> 02:07:01,520
Speaker 1: he's a perfect candidate for these teams who like those

2541
02:07:01,560 --> 02:07:03,840
Speaker 1: two and like the LA Chargers, All three of those

2542
02:07:03,840 --> 02:07:07,960
Speaker 1: teams have a guy that is old and is gonna

2543
02:07:08,040 --> 02:07:10,800
Speaker 1: but doesn't miss games. And when that guy hangs it up,

2544
02:07:10,800 --> 02:07:12,400
Speaker 1: they need somebody to step in and with a top

2545
02:07:12,480 --> 02:07:14,800
Speaker 1: first round talent, go get him. Yeah, it's perfect scenario.

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02:07:14,880 --> 02:07:17,400
Speaker 1: Fe Josh Rosen, we're in this year's draft. Would he

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02:07:17,480 --> 02:07:19,600
Speaker 1: be the first quarterback chosen? I think he would be,

2548
02:07:19,840 --> 02:07:22,600
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, because the thing about him,

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02:07:22,920 --> 02:07:26,200
Speaker 1: he ran a pro style offense and was pretty good

2550
02:07:26,240 --> 02:07:30,080
Speaker 1: in it as UCLA right, and he played very well, well,

2551
02:07:30,240 --> 02:07:32,560
Speaker 1: not great, but he was. He ran it. He was

2552
02:07:32,640 --> 02:07:35,440
Speaker 1: a pro style quarterback in a pro style offense and

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02:07:35,560 --> 02:07:40,280
Speaker 1: had pro abilities. So yeah, he might. He'd be a

2554
02:07:40,320 --> 02:07:43,560
Speaker 1: first rounder again. Yeah, absolutely. NFL two or false part

2555
02:07:43,560 --> 02:07:47,640
Speaker 1: to another quarterback question. Andy Dalton, Bengals quarterback must restore himself.

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02:07:48,240 --> 02:07:52,560
Speaker 1: Do you get another extension? Kind of weird phraseology, but

2557
02:07:52,640 --> 02:07:55,000
Speaker 1: it comes from Bengals owner Mike Brown, who told reporters

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02:07:55,040 --> 02:07:57,680
Speaker 1: that the league meetings in Arizona this week, it's a

2559
02:07:57,680 --> 02:07:59,840
Speaker 1: good year for Andy Dalton. The show like he can

2560
02:08:00,000 --> 02:08:03,200
Speaker 1: and like we think he will after he reestablishes himself.

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Speaker 1: We would want to get together with him and see

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Speaker 1: if we can extend it. You got a six ye's

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02:08:06,920 --> 02:08:09,000
Speaker 1: on a six year contract extension and he's got two

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02:08:09,080 --> 02:08:12,720
Speaker 1: years left. Paul Paul Brown, Mike Brown was asked if

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Speaker 1: they're going to extend him now, and he said, no,

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Speaker 1: Let's wait to see if he can restore himself, if

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02:08:16,680 --> 02:08:18,960
Speaker 1: he can play like we think he can to re

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02:08:19,160 --> 02:08:21,560
Speaker 1: establish himself in the minds of the owner. Andy Dalton

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Speaker 1: must restore himself to get another extension. Absolutely true, right

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02:08:25,280 --> 02:08:27,480
Speaker 1: they got to The clock's certainly been ticking for a

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Speaker 1: couple of years on Eddie Dalton. Yeah, I agree, he's

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02:08:30,160 --> 02:08:33,240
Speaker 1: got to play well, particularly for a new head coach

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02:08:34,160 --> 02:08:37,560
Speaker 1: in a new system. He's got to assert himself that

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02:08:37,840 --> 02:08:39,840
Speaker 1: you know he can get it done. Remember, this is

2575
02:08:39,880 --> 02:08:41,840
Speaker 1: the guy. They were going to the playoffs every year

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02:08:41,920 --> 02:08:44,920
Speaker 1: for a long stretch under Marvin Lewis. Could never get

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02:08:45,000 --> 02:08:46,920
Speaker 1: out of the first round. They got beat every year.

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02:08:46,960 --> 02:08:50,520
Speaker 1: And there's a number of times when the blame and

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02:08:50,680 --> 02:08:52,880
Speaker 1: when you watch that game, the blame went squarely on

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02:08:53,000 --> 02:08:56,160
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton's shoulders. He could not make the plays when

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02:08:56,200 --> 02:08:58,800
Speaker 1: the Bengals needed him to make the plays to get

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02:08:58,840 --> 02:09:00,720
Speaker 1: out of the first round of the NFL playoffs. It

2583
02:09:00,720 --> 02:09:04,000
Speaker 1: happened multiple occasions and it was squarely hung on him.

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02:09:04,080 --> 02:09:06,520
Speaker 1: So Yeah, I would say there's no question that it

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02:09:06,600 --> 02:09:10,040
Speaker 1: falls on him to reassert himself as the elite, or

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02:09:10,120 --> 02:09:12,600
Speaker 1: not the elite, but the franchise quarterback. The Bengals need

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02:09:12,680 --> 02:09:15,840
Speaker 1: him to be. And finally, when it comes to NFL

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02:09:15,920 --> 02:09:19,320
Speaker 1: True or false? This one's interesting too. The Raiders bringing

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02:09:19,360 --> 02:09:21,720
Speaker 1: back Marshawn Lynch does not make sense. They haven't made

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02:09:21,760 --> 02:09:25,640
Speaker 1: the move yet without him. Oakland's running back room Jalen Richard,

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02:09:25,720 --> 02:09:28,640
Speaker 1: DeAndre Washington, and Chris Warren. So do the Raiders need

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02:09:28,680 --> 02:09:31,200
Speaker 1: to bring back Marshawn Lynch? Bringing him back does not

2593
02:09:31,360 --> 02:09:35,200
Speaker 1: make sense? True? False. That's a double negative there. I

2594
02:09:35,240 --> 02:09:37,760
Speaker 1: gotta think they probably should bring him back. So what

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02:09:37,840 --> 02:09:39,520
Speaker 1: do I want to answer here? It does make sense,

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02:09:39,560 --> 02:09:42,360
Speaker 1: it makes true. It's false. Oh, does not make sense?

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02:09:42,880 --> 02:09:45,200
Speaker 1: It's false? It does make Can we make that anywhere?

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02:09:45,240 --> 02:09:48,240
Speaker 1: Difficult to answer? It's false? Ringing him back does not

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02:09:48,360 --> 02:09:50,280
Speaker 1: make sense? False? It would make sense for them. Look,

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Speaker 1: if the Raiders think of themselves as contenders, which they

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02:09:53,280 --> 02:09:58,520
Speaker 1: probably do with their big acquisitions, etc. This offseason, they're

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02:09:58,520 --> 02:10:00,360
Speaker 1: gonna need a running back. They're gonna need something better

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02:10:00,400 --> 02:10:04,040
Speaker 1: than that group I just mentioned. So false. I would

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02:10:04,040 --> 02:10:06,920
Speaker 1: say false as well, Marshawn Lynch brings an attitude to

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02:10:07,040 --> 02:10:11,680
Speaker 1: that team and a physicality and a presence that's right. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And he is and he is a guy that the

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Speaker 1: other players gravitate towards. Uh. He's a voice. I think

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02:10:18,240 --> 02:10:20,360
Speaker 1: they trust him with the football. He doesn't turn it over.

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02:10:20,720 --> 02:10:23,040
Speaker 1: He's a solid, steady back. Now, certainly he's not the

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Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch he was when the when he was winning

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02:10:25,240 --> 02:10:27,880
Speaker 1: world championships with the Seattle Seahawks. But that guy can

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02:10:27,960 --> 02:10:30,200
Speaker 1: still play. And I think the Raiders need as many

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02:10:30,240 --> 02:10:32,600
Speaker 1: good players as they can get. So yeah, I would

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Speaker 1: bring him back. I think it does make sense that

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Speaker 1: they should bring him back. The NFL True or False

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Speaker 1: brought to you about Yancey's Fancy New York's Artistan, Geez,

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Speaker 1: Steve and I back at a moment one goes live

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Speaker 1: from One Deals Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio. So one

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Speaker 1: of learned from today's show ventchered my advanced to learn

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Speaker 1: providing Western New York's homes and businesses with the finance

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Speaker 1: and security and home theater. He preferred Alarment home theater

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Speaker 1: rights the Buffaloos. We had Lorenzo Alexander in studio with us.

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Speaker 1: Talked about talk a little bit about what Sean McDermot

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Speaker 1: had to say earlier in this week about bringing free

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Speaker 1: agents of Buffalo, attracting the right type of free agents

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Speaker 1: of Buffalo. Here's what Lorenzo thought about that. Even when

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Speaker 1: I think about when I decided to come up here,

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Speaker 1: you know, calling guys like Lennon Fletcher, Deared Dockery and

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Speaker 1: some other guys that I know around the league that

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Speaker 1: have been up here. They loved the experience, and it

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Speaker 1: made my decision to sign that much easier because I

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Speaker 1: knew other guys that I trusted. They really understood what

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Speaker 1: I was looking for in Vouce for the city and organization.

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Speaker 1: And I would say it's probably even gotten better, you know,

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Speaker 1: since the Bugoulas are taken over all the stuff we're

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Speaker 1: doing in the organizational wise, the city or this team

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02:11:48,440 --> 02:11:50,440
Speaker 1: is getting better. And then you couple that with a

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Speaker 1: with a great city and a great environment with great people,

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Speaker 1: it's going to be a destination. Well, we'll see. I

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Speaker 1: hope Lorenzo's right about that. I think McDermot was absolutely right,

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Speaker 1: and I think Lorenzo knows exactly what his head coach

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Speaker 1: was saying. Also on the show today Great Cosell, executive

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Speaker 1: producer and analysts for NFL Matchup on ESPN. We went

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Speaker 1: through a list of defensive lineman with him draft prospects,

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Speaker 1: including defensive tackle and Oliver of Houston. Here's what Cosell

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Speaker 1: thinks about him. I think he's one of the most

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Speaker 1: athletically explosive interior d lineman that I've ever seen on tape.

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02:12:26,360 --> 02:12:32,120
Speaker 1: He's got an off the charts profile of foot quickness, agility, fluidity, explosion,

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Speaker 1: had usage. Plus he's very very competitive, So you know,

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Speaker 1: the only concerned people might have is his weight. I

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02:12:41,280 --> 02:12:43,760
Speaker 1: know people have started to talk about a position change.

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Speaker 1: I think in today's NFL he can certainly be a

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02:12:46,680 --> 02:12:51,480
Speaker 1: three technique that's probably his best position. I think he

2654
02:12:51,560 --> 02:12:54,280
Speaker 1: probably needs some technique work when it comes to rushing

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Speaker 1: the quarterback. I don't think he's a natural at that.

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Speaker 1: But as far as his athletic and physical trade, they're

2657
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Speaker 1: truly off the chart. Sometimes he looks like a running

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Speaker 1: back playing defensive tackle. We'll talk a lot more about

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Speaker 1: him as the weeks go along. Four weeks until the

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Speaker 1: draft comes up. A couple of Twitter polls today which

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Speaker 1: draft prospect could be most beneficial to the Bills. Fifty

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Speaker 1: three percent on our Twitter poll said Ed Oliver, twenty

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Speaker 1: one percent said the tight end T. J. Hawkinson, nineteen

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Speaker 1: percent said Wide Receiver DK Metcalf, seven percent said Montez

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Speaker 1: Sweat and the earlier Twitter pole. Most of you don't

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Speaker 1: think that legalized gambling would be a threat to the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Sixty one percent say no, there'd be no cheating. All right, Steve,

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Speaker 1: good work, are good to have this week? Do we

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Speaker 1: gass a good weekend? You gonn watch a little marsh?

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Speaker 1: Maybe not? You're not gonna probably stay away for maybe

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Speaker 1: I'm back next week. Production assistant John's Last, Jeff Colton

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Speaker 1: and Thomas honald Or, Kelly Rude, j J. Gurto, Kevin Gardage,

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Speaker 1: James Robel. Producers Jay Harris. We'll see a Monday at

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Speaker 1: noon and one Bill's Live on Buffalo Bill's Radio