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Speaker 1: This is a Jesse Kelly show. It is the Jesse

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Speaker 1: Kelly Show. Another hour of the Jesse Kelly Show. I'm

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Speaker 1: so nerding out right now that a half hour from

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Speaker 1: now we get to talk to a veteran of the

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Speaker 1: Rhodesian bush War. I'm having trouble staying focused.

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Speaker 2: My focus is just stay focused.

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Speaker 1: And don't shake your head.

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Speaker 3: Chris, shut up.

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Speaker 1: I love that we added that on there. That's my

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Speaker 1: new favorite SoundBite. Chris. I'm gonta text people about it. Well,

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Speaker 1: did you get that email? Chris? From the guy? Sorry,

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Speaker 1: we'll get back to politics in a minute. Somebody wrote

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Speaker 1: in an email and had his kid or his nephew

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Speaker 1: figure out how to put that. People be texting. It's

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Speaker 1: now the text notification on his phone. Chris, can you

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Speaker 1: do that for me?

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Speaker 4: Do you know what?

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Speaker 1: Corey? Can you? Can someone do that? Do you know

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Speaker 1: how to do that? Is it? No one knows how

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Speaker 1: to do that. We need some young people in this office.

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Speaker 1: This is the problem. We need young what Chris, don't

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Speaker 1: I have two kids? Yeah, but I worry that they're

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Speaker 1: more like me. You know what, James could probably do it.

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Speaker 1: I'll make James do it. He'll figure it out all right.

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Speaker 1: First of all, two good things before we get back

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Speaker 1: to some other stuff. Headline, heg Seth, the Secretary of

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Speaker 1: warpteg Seth is planning a huge shakeup at the top

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Speaker 1: of military command. That is incredibly important and necessary. As

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Speaker 1: we were just discussing last hour, the long march through

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Speaker 1: the institutions. Well, the Communists didn't exempt the military from that.

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Speaker 1: They wanted it, they knew they had to have it,

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Speaker 1: and they went and got it. They attacked our military.

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Speaker 1: We have so many commie generals, commie admirals, so many

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Speaker 1: of them throughout our service, academies now again doing what

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Speaker 1: being subversive, fighting for the revolution. Cleaning them out is

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Speaker 1: going to be a very long, very difficult process, and

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Speaker 1: it is extremely necessary and I mean extremely necessary. So

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Speaker 1: that's a good thing, something you can feel good about.

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Speaker 1: Here's something else. The federal government has shed two hundred

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Speaker 1: and seventy one thousand jobs this year. I know we

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Speaker 1: have concerns. I know we have things that we want done,

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Speaker 1: things that aren't being done. I get that. Then all

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Speaker 1: that stuff is legitimate. Look, I just criticized everybody yesterday. Man,

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Speaker 1: do you think we'd have gotten rid of two hundred

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Speaker 1: and seventy one thousand federal government jobs if Kamala Harris

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Speaker 1: was president. No, we would not. No, we would not.

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Speaker 1: Now I have to play this bit because it just

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Speaker 1: makes me laugh. This is Zoran Mandani. He's the incoming

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Speaker 1: mayor of New York City talking about free busses.

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Speaker 3: We made five bus routes free in New York City.

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Speaker 3: When we made those bus routes free, after a year,

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Speaker 3: assaults on bus drivers dropped by thirty eight point nine

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Speaker 3: percent on the bus driver the bus drivers because unlike

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Speaker 3: the train, the act of fair collection on the bus

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Speaker 3: happens on the bus.

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Speaker 1: And they're actually going to claim that bus drivers will

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Speaker 1: get assaulted less when they make the bus free. Let's

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Speaker 1: have a little chat, shall we, before we get back

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Speaker 1: to politics. And it's ugly to have this conversation, but

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Speaker 1: I don't care. I'm ugly, wait on the inside. On

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Speaker 1: the inside, I'm ugly, So let's have it. Access access

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Speaker 1: is it's one of those things you need to monitor

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Speaker 1: in life. And if you ever find yourself in a

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Speaker 1: place that lets everybody in, you will find the biggest

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Speaker 1: bunch of scumbags and low lifes in your area every

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Speaker 1: single time. If you want to get me to not

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Speaker 1: go somewhere, and you know I'm cheap. I'm not Jewish

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Speaker 1: producer Chris cheap, but I'm cheap. If you want to

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Speaker 1: or and I've learned this lesson after forty four years,

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Speaker 1: you're just gonna have to trust me. Or half priced Day.

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Speaker 1: They have this place here locally, and it's one of

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Speaker 1: these kind of kids paradise places. They're all over the country,

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Speaker 1: so you have one close to you as well that

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Speaker 1: has a bowling and laser tag and arcade games and pizza.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's kids paradise. Of course, we walked in

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Speaker 1: Then it was a Wednesday, I believe. We went there

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Speaker 1: trash than you've ever seen in your entire life. Couldn't

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you're here. They're going to make the buses

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Speaker 1: so freaking bad. It's just there's nothing these people cannot ruin.

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Speaker 1: It's absolutely nothing these people cannot ruin. All right, now,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to play something for you. It's ihan Omar,

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Speaker 1: and I love that she's in so much pain right now.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is about by the way, this is

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Speaker 1: about Trump's new travel band. He added a bunch of

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Speaker 1: more Muslim countries to the travel band.

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Speaker 5: I mean, the biggest worry of the new executive order

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Speaker 5: is that it does separate families. It doesn't create an

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Speaker 5: exception for you as citizens to have their family members

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Speaker 5: be able to come visit and celebrate milestones with them.

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Speaker 5: And so this is a very cool.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, let me clarify. We don't want your family

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Speaker 1: don't want them to live here. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: smell a single one of ilhan Omar's family members. In fact,

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Speaker 1: if I ever take power in this country, ilhan Omar

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Speaker 1: in all of her family will not just be banned

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Speaker 1: from this country. I'll deport anybody they know who's in

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Speaker 1: the country. That's how bad it's going to be one day.

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Speaker 1: But again, the communists understand who's the bread and butter

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Speaker 4: They're arresting people simply for the offense of being in

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Speaker 4: the country illegally. It's not right, but it's not necessarily

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Speaker 4: something that should cause deportation when they are not committee

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Speaker 1: So that's a concern we have. They're arresting and deporting

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Speaker 1: people for being in the country illegally. That is a

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Speaker 1: controversial position for the modern Democrat Party. Oh, he had

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Speaker 1: more to say.

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Speaker 4: Memphis is not an immigration center of crimes. And most

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Speaker 4: of the people that are there that are immigrants, even

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Speaker 4: if they come into the country illegally, them are working

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Speaker 4: legally and doing a lot of important work in Memphis

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Speaker 4: and construction industry, the tourism industry, and they're necessary and needed.

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Speaker 1: They just prefer foreigners over you. It's pregernorrible, fringnorable. Hey, Jesse,

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Speaker 1: thanks for the outstanding Another outstanding history lesson, this time

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Speaker 1: about the Rhodesian Bush War. I am so disappointed in

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Speaker 1: the West, especially the US, for failing to support Rhodesia

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Speaker 1: against the black communist factions. I understand now why my

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Speaker 1: long education never included this disgraceful debacle. Of a pop

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Speaker 1: prosperous nation. Yeah, that's why. Look, that's why your school

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Speaker 1: the side of the communist terrorists who were butchering people.

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Speaker 1: They were on the side they viewed them as as

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Speaker 1: prosperous country. I know it's hard to accept, but there's

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Speaker 1: a good chance your history teacher wants to do the

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Speaker 1: exact same thing here and will do anything in his

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Speaker 1: or her power to make that happen. It's a terrible

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Speaker 1: state of affairs. But this is why this stuff doesn't

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Speaker 1: get taught in schools. Jesse. This is about healthcare costs.

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Speaker 1: I now pay twenty seven thousand dollars a year for

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Speaker 1: good coverage for my family. Good grief, My pot is

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Speaker 1: simmering and about to boil. The whole system seems so

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Speaker 1: messed up, from the hospitals to the drug companies to

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Speaker 1: the insurance providers. Can this ever get fixed? Are there

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Speaker 1: ways to opt out of the system and into something

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Speaker 1: that will cover a family without paying extra for abortions

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Speaker 1: and trans grap and illegals. Paying for healthcare is now

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Speaker 1: a full time job. It is unbelievable what health insurance

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Speaker 1: now costs in this country. I can only tell you

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Speaker 1: what I've looked into, Okay, and I'm not an expert,

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Speaker 1: so I haven't done it right. What I've looked into

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Speaker 1: getting out of the insurance run medical industry, meaning concierge medicine.

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Speaker 1: And it sounds expensive, and it is expensive, there's no

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Speaker 1: question about it. But it's not that much more expensive

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Speaker 1: than having health insurance now. And that number is going

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Speaker 1: to get better as more and more people chafe against

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Speaker 1: the health insurance industry, which, of course the government screwed up.

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Speaker 1: Remember it's not the insurance companies. It was all this

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Speaker 1: Obamacare exchanges and everything else that's screwed it up, that

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Speaker 1: screwed up our health insurance industry. Now there are doctors

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Speaker 1: multiple chains across the country that do concierge medicine, which

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Speaker 1: means no insurance. You'd pay something like a monthly fee

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Speaker 1: or something like that. But what I've warned about repeatedly

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Speaker 1: and what you can totally see happening now, is this

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Speaker 1: is going to make good healthcare only something rich people

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Speaker 1: get and that was previously not like that in the country.

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Speaker 1: The last time I had to go to the hospital,

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Speaker 1: I was mortified, not just by the conditions by the staff.

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Speaker 1: Were there some lovely nurses, of course? Was there a

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Speaker 1: It was a bunch of dirt balls, rude, dumb, free, terrible,

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Speaker 1: bad state of affairs. Now, speaking of which, let's focus

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Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly Show. It is the Jesse Kelly Show on

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Speaker 1: a magnificent Wednesday hop Day. And you can email us

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Speaker 1: Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. Ten minutes away from

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Speaker 1: our veteran of the Rhodesian Bush War. Can't wait to

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Speaker 1: talk to him. But let me go ahead and address

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Speaker 1: the elephant in the room. So Dan Bongino, Deputy Director

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Speaker 1: of the FBI. Dan Bongino came out today. There were

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Speaker 1: rumors swirling already, but he came out today, made it official.

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Speaker 1: Trump kind of let the cat out of the bag.

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Speaker 1: I think he's leaving. Dan said, hey January, I'm leaving,

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Speaker 1: And a bunch of people were asking my thoughts on

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Speaker 1: it and say, no, I know Dan. So hey, Chris,

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Speaker 1: if you wouldn't mind, I would like to hear what

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Speaker 1: I said back in July. So here it is. Do

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Speaker 1: you remember what I told you about Dan Bongino and

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Speaker 1: the FBI. But I wake up every day and I

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Speaker 1: maybe just a headline Dan Bongino stepping down. If Dan

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Speaker 1: Bongino steps down, especially if it's over the next year,

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Speaker 1: it can't be saved. He doesn't believe he can save

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Speaker 1: it because he's not gonna sit there and do nothing.

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Speaker 1: If he throws his hands up and says screw it on,

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Speaker 1: that'll tell you it can't be fixed. I don't know

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Speaker 1: all of his reasons. I don't know. Maybe he just

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Speaker 1: but before we get into the war and everything, tell

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Speaker 2: I grew up on a farm, HOCKI. I was the

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Speaker 1: How about that? Now you're a farm boy, you go

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Speaker 2: Well? No, No, I went into Marines. I did my

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Speaker 1: Now we can't just fast forward past being a freaking

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Speaker 2: Do you ever go up there? It's beautiful? I don't.

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Speaker 1: War and obviously the Vietnam War as well. Buddy, how

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Speaker 1: Doesn't sound goofy at all. I just had them meet

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Speaker 2: Not good?

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Speaker 1: What year is this?

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Speaker 2: Pardon sir?

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Speaker 2: This would be September of seventy nine. Okay, they were

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Okay, So, buddy, if you don't mind,

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Speaker 2: Buddy, Yes, sir, I'm here as long as you want me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Man, Buddy Lily veteran of the

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Speaker 1: I'm geeking out over here. I told Jewish producer Chris

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Speaker 1: gonna nerd out. I can't believe we have an actual

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Speaker 1: veteran of the war here to talk about it. Anyway.

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Speaker 1: Before we get to that, let me do remind you

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Speaker 1: that our dogs die too early in this country. They

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Speaker 1: die too early because we give them. What what do

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Speaker 1: you feed your dog? Same thing? I feed my dog

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Speaker 1: dog food. Let me guess what color the food is

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Speaker 1: you give your dog? Let me guess is it brown? Huh?

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Speaker 1: Why is it all brown? The dog? Get together and

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Speaker 1: just decide on a color. It's all brown because it's dead.

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Speaker 1: Brown things are dead. They roast that stuff so high

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Speaker 1: and at such a high temperature at the factory, all

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Speaker 1: the nutrients is gone, cook it all out of it.

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Speaker 1: Sprinkle Roughgreens on your dog's food. You will find lethargic

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Speaker 1: dogs come alive. You'll find your dog's coat looks better

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Speaker 1: as breath is better. Digestive problems gone. Just a healthier,

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Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly DC. It is the Jesse Kelly Show on

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Speaker 1: a magnificent, magnificent Wednesday, a hump day, and we are

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Speaker 1: still joined by Buddy Lilly, veteran of the Rhodesian Bushwar

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Speaker 1: and Vietnam United States marine. All right, buddy, we kind

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Speaker 1: of fast forward through something that actually I'm curious about.

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Speaker 1: You wanted the camaraderie. You wanted to go fight the

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Speaker 1: bad guys in Rhodesia, but I would venture to get

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Speaker 1: you didn't just buy a plane ticket and show up

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Speaker 1: and knock on, knock on someone's door over there? How

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Speaker 1: does that work? Do you get? How does it work

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Speaker 1: to even get recruited? How did you get signed up?

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Speaker 2: Jesse? You don't know how close you just came. I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I had been in touch with the recruiter from the

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Speaker 2: Light Infantry sometime before that. But when I decided to go,

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Speaker 2: I went and bought a ticket, loading my bags up,

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Speaker 2: went on over and when I landed there, I said,

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Speaker 2: well I'm here. Now what am I gonna do? And

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Speaker 2: you were? You hit it just about on the head.

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Speaker 1: You so whose door did you knock on? Buddy?

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Speaker 2: Let me sell you this on a serious, serious note.

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Speaker 2: The Rhodesian people are the most polite you'll ever meet.

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Speaker 2: On the plane. I was, well, I flew from just

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Speaker 2: for information not to be born you, but from New York.

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Speaker 2: He had to fly into Yoburg and then they would

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Speaker 2: push you on air Rhodesia, and when I got to

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Speaker 2: Yoberg gentlemen came over to me and I said, oh,

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Speaker 2: this is not good. He said, we've got your bag, sir.

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Speaker 2: They're a little heavy, but we're going to load them

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Speaker 2: for you. Go right ahead. I kid you not, sir,

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Speaker 2: and he said their head and I said they're tools.

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Speaker 2: He said, I understand. And I got on a plane.

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Speaker 2: I sat next to the Rhodesian gentleman who was coming

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Speaker 2: back from Canada, and we had a wonderful talk. He

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Speaker 2: filled me in on things and offered me his home

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Speaker 2: to stay at, gave me his telephone number when we

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Speaker 2: got to where we land is in Salisbury. When we

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Speaker 2: landed there, he took me to a hotel. He said,

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Speaker 2: if you don't like this, please call me. And I

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Speaker 2: was just I just said, gee, this is it's like

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Speaker 2: being in the country in the USA. These people are

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Speaker 2: so friendly and polite. The other first person I met

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Speaker 2: was the customs guy with a big grin says, you

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Speaker 2: want to join the army? I said, I just got here.

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Speaker 2: Can you give me a break? And I really was

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Speaker 2: like that. Everybody was just helpful. That's all I can

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Speaker 2: tell you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you get yourself checked in at the Rhodesian

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Speaker 1: Best Western or whatever hotel you were checked in at,

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Speaker 1: not quite close. Where do you go then? Do you

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Speaker 1: go have a night or two out on the town

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Speaker 1: chasing down Rhodesian women? Do you what's next?

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Speaker 2: Well, the gentleman from the customs gave me his number

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Speaker 2: and asked me to give him a call. As it was,

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Speaker 2: they only lived about six or eight blocks from the

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Speaker 2: hotel I was at, which was not a flea bag.

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Speaker 2: It was okay, but it was not the Monabatapa which

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Speaker 2: I could see across the town, which I couldn't afford,

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Speaker 2: thank you, but it was nice. So I called this

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Speaker 2: gentleman up, walked to their house and you got to imagine,

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Speaker 2: now this is downtown Saal, very beautiful town was and

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Speaker 2: I'm carrying AR in my back. Nobody ship at fact

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Speaker 2: that it's an AR, and they don't see AR fifteen. They

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Speaker 2: don't see too many of them. But I looked around

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Speaker 2: and said, gee, everybody's carrying guns around here. I mean, seriously,

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Speaker 2: I'm not exaggerating a whole lot. And anyway, I got

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Speaker 2: to this gentleman's house and his girlfriend were for the courts.

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Speaker 2: The criminal Investigation division. So she sent me over to

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Speaker 2: see one of the supervisors the next day, who one

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Speaker 2: a scale one to ten was about eight and a half.

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Speaker 2: But she sent me to a couple places for interviews.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm on my second day there. This is

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Speaker 2: how fast things were moving. And I was offered a

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Speaker 2: couple jobs, and I did not feel comfortable taking a

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Speaker 2: couple of them because I didn't know the AO, I

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Speaker 2: didn't know all the customs. The responsibility I would have

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Speaker 2: had did not line up with my knowledge of the country.

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Speaker 2: If you know where I'm coming from. So I ended

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Speaker 2: up going to work for Well. I had an interview

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Speaker 2: with Anglo American, which was a pretty big corporation, and

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Speaker 2: went to work for the Forest Management Service. The gentleman

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Speaker 2: in charge, the big boss, took me to his house

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Speaker 2: for lunch. I was just flabbergasted. I know it sounds crazy,

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Speaker 2: but gave me a long talk, took me down, made

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Speaker 2: sure my driver's license would be okay in Rhodesia. Should

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Speaker 2: be it the office at one o'clock you're going out

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Speaker 2: on a convoy. And next thing I knew, I was hired.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So we're gonna pause before we get to the convoy.

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Speaker 1: This is something actually I did not tell everyone. When

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Speaker 1: I was discussing the Rhodesian Bush War. You brought it up.

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Speaker 1: I've seen the pictures of it. That the women would

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Speaker 1: walk around with weapons. It was such a dangerous place

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Speaker 1: that just everybody was armed.

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Speaker 2: Did you see that, Yes, sir, I mean he didn't

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Speaker 2: always do it, but it wasn't unusual to pass somebody

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Speaker 2: with a you know, with an fal on their back.

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Speaker 2: Everybody over there had to be a citizen soldier or female.

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Speaker 2: You did not know when or if mcgobby's boys were

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Speaker 2: gonna pop in there and do something. They weren't as

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Speaker 2: bad as the terrorist star nowadays. They didn't hit the

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Speaker 2: big city as much, but you had to be prepared anyway,

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Speaker 2: and those people were prepared some of the later on one

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Speaker 2: of the hotels. And I'm Tolly where I worked out of. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I forgot to tell you that much, Huh, I forgot something.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's okay, buddy. It's because we're about to take

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Speaker 1: a break, and then when we get back, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: tell us everything. Because I'm just gonna continue to bore

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Speaker 1: you with questions because I'm so fascinated right now I'm

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Speaker 1: so excited. Buddy Lily, veteran of the Rhodesian bush War,

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Speaker 1: as promised, is here giving us as time killing it.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Buddy cannot tell you how much I

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Speaker 1: appreciate this. So we are going to take a little

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Speaker 1: quick break. When we come back, I know this is

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Speaker 1: the next hour. Buddy, Lily's gonna give us some more wisdom.

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Speaker 1: Hang on,