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Speaker 1: everyone listening. Save the date, Saturday, February fifteenth in Chicago, Illinois. Hello,

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Speaker 1: that's all I'm going to say right now. Lots more

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Speaker 1: to come on that in the next couple of days. Saturday,

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Speaker 1: February fifteenth. I believe that's an NBA All Star weekend.

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Speaker 4: Lee.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, let me just check the calendar.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, that's all we're gonna say right now. Interesting, Okay,

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Speaker 1: but Monday staple looking back at the NBA weekend, hitting

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Speaker 1: you with the winners and losers from the last couple

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Speaker 2: Andre Drummond of the Detroit Pistons Corner reports this weekend

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Speaker 2: from ESPN. Got no problem saying who the report is from.

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Speaker 2: Andre Drummond is on the trade block. Apparently, the twenty

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Speaker 2: six year old two time All start, one time All

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Speaker 2: NBA is going to be getting a new start somewhere

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Speaker 2: else before the trade deadline. He's the one who's going

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Speaker 2: to be moved out of Detroit over Blake Griffin and friends. Now,

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Speaker 2: I would consider him a winner because I think he

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Speaker 2: needs a fresh start, and there's some teams out there.

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Speaker 2: ESPN said maybe it's the Hawks. The Athletics said that

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Speaker 2: let's start with the Hawks here, because I don't think

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Speaker 2: he's a guaranteed foundational piece for the Atlanta Hawks. I

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Speaker 2: and then just already resign themselves to signing him long

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Speaker 2: term because I don't think necessarily that he's going to

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Speaker 2: John Collins and all start. Would you rather have Andre Drummond?

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Speaker 2: I mean that's a debate, but I think it's sort

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Speaker 2: almost went to the Dallas Mavericks, when he decided, yeah,

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Speaker 2: So I don't think if you're looking at Andre Drummond,

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Speaker 1: Like I think what you said there with the Hawks

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Speaker 3: All NBA player. I'd completely forgotten he made an All NBA.

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Speaker 1: But so then that's the decision. Yeah, how much do

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't mind the idea of a Hawks flyer.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if you're the Hawks though as well, you've got

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Speaker 4: I agree with kind of what you're saying there. It's

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Speaker 4: don't think he would come here otherwise. I think, I mean,

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Speaker 3: What's the hurry for the Hawks though? To be any

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Speaker 3: Andred Drummond for five years. Would you rather have that?

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Speaker 3: Add more and more draft picks, take more and more swings.

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Speaker 3: It looks like DeAndre Hunter will be a player. Cam

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Speaker 3: Reddish still not sure. That's why you need multiple bites

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Speaker 3: I don't think that adding Andre Drummond to a fringe

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Speaker 3: And I just don't think Andre Drummond really makes the

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Speaker 2: I think the last couple of years were starting to

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Speaker 2: will help the last few years, the Pistons have had

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Speaker 2: well on the defensive end if he's into it. But

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Speaker 2: I'm with you, I'm worried that the last couple of years,

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Speaker 2: the team. But in theory, if you have offensive weapons

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Speaker 2: be pretty good. I think they could. You know, you

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Speaker 2: So yeah, maybe just keep adding to the pile and

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Speaker 2: don't add a guy like Andre Drummond, who's we know

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Speaker 2: who's his ceiling is what it is probably right now

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Speaker 2: is you know where he's peaking.

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Speaker 1: Probably, but you know, he immediately makes your team awesome

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Speaker 1: being a big guy inside, he's I agree. I don't

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Speaker 1: think Drumm's gonna get a whole lot better here from

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Speaker 1: twenty seven onwards. He's gonna be like a fifteen and

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Speaker 4: That's the thing with ever, even if you do something

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Speaker 4: to that Max, he's not gonna be it's not gonna

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Speaker 4: be an albatross that I think, because he's still going

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Speaker 4: to be young enough.

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Speaker 1: That see, That's where I'm not sure. I agree he

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Speaker 1: worries not a MAX player. He just is not.

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Speaker 3: He isn't.

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Speaker 1: You can't convince me.

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Speaker 2: I'm just worried, but he's going to get close to it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he'll get it. I think he's gonna get it.

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Speaker 1: You think he'll be he'll get a Max.

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Speaker 4: I think he'll get it. Yeah. I mean like people

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Speaker 4: you know, in his sleep, that's what he does. How

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Speaker 4: Andrey Drummond. He's not going to be on the free

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Speaker 2: I guess the worry some part is that the Pistons

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Speaker 2: pick in the teams for a MAX player. What the what?

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's just a reported deal. But if

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Speaker 2: Tom Gords has decided that all right, we're gonna just

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Speaker 4: And when I watched him in those early days in Toronto,

432
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Speaker 4: the game came so easily to him. He was so athletic,

433
00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,840
Speaker 4: he could do everything, but he just and maybe that

434
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Speaker 4: was why the expectations were so much higher. It was like,

435
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Speaker 4: I mean, he's a you know, average over twenty five

436
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Speaker 4: A couple of times in his career. He was a

437
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Speaker 4: very good player, but I just felt like there was

438
00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,200
Speaker 4: always a little bit more that he could have done.

439
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Speaker 4: And again, I think sometimes when a guy just plays

440
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Speaker 4: that way, you feel that he's not working as hard

441
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Speaker 4: as he maybe could.

442
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Speaker 1: But injuries were a big part of injuries were but

443
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Speaker 1: you know, especially for a guy that athletic, Yeah.

444
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Speaker 4: Injuries contributed as they do in situations, but you know,

445
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Speaker 4: still the fact that he's still playing and you know,

446
00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,120
Speaker 4: he's still contributing and we all still love Vince. That's great,

447
00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:54,360
Speaker 4: but it's.

448
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Speaker 1: More impressive in their old age. Vince Carter or Selmahayek,

449
00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,679
Speaker 1: don't get yourself fired. I shouldn't have come on.

450
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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, why go so over the top

451
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Speaker 4: with him?

452
00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:12,360
Speaker 1: Oh really, why can't you just say she's a beauty,

453
00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,720
Speaker 1: she used to be. What are you high right now?

454
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Speaker 4: Oh my god, I got a little disappointed. I get

455
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Speaker 4: the hell seriously, make him that.

456
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Speaker 3: Christ from the guy who thought that Richard Jefferson, Jason

457
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,040
Speaker 3: Kidd and Vince Marker with the Big three who were

458
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Speaker 3: gonna take over the NBA. Disappoints.

459
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Speaker 2: You used to admire Vince, but I don't admire something.

460
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Speaker 1: Let's just move on.

461
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Speaker 4: He's I said to my wife last night, I said, like,

462
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Speaker 4: that's just you're just going over the top.

463
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Speaker 1: You wish you wish?

464
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Speaker 4: No, I don't, I don't.

465
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Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you something else to Oh no, Vince,

466
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Speaker 1: When are we gonna find out what they're doing for

467
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,280
Speaker 1: Vince at the All Star weekend? Something's gonna happening.

468
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Speaker 3: Put him in the contest and let him do something.

469
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, I think that's gotta be almost like or

470
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Speaker 1: like we've talked about before, it's lucky Mellow came back. Yeah,

471
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 1: but yeah, Mello says not retiring by any means. So

472
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Speaker 1: it'd be weird if for like, hey, we did this

473
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Speaker 1: with Dirk and Wade. Hey, Mellow, Vince, you're in the

474
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Speaker 1: game now, but something's got we gotta do something for Vince.

475
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Speaker 1: It feels like at the All Star weekend.

476
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't put him in the dunk Con test though,

477
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Speaker 4: Oh my.

478
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Speaker 1: God, no cod On, Sorry, Rachel Nichols. I do not

479
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Speaker 1: want to see in the contest. It might be involved

480
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Speaker 1: in it somehow, maybe, I don't know.

481
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Speaker 3: Hey, judge, you can judge. I mean, there's not a

482
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Speaker 3: lot of choices. You can see him better, you can judge,

483
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Speaker 3: or somebody can jump over.

484
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he must have done that a few times already

485
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Speaker 4: though as well.

486
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Speaker 3: She's been in the league for forty years, four decades,

487
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Speaker 3: forty years. What was your favorite Vince Carter decade if

488
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Speaker 3: you had to rank him. Nineties, you don't got a

489
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Speaker 3: lot of time. Two thousands, you know, a lot of controversy,

490
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Speaker 3: but a lot of highlights. Twenty ten that's when he

491
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Speaker 3: was rebuilding his image, and then twenty twenties, just like

492
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Speaker 3: now on fire so far.

493
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I got yeah the two thousands, even though things

494
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Speaker 1: turned very quickly there in Toronto, I mean those first

495
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Speaker 1: couple of years. Yeah. Or he was a star. He

496
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Speaker 1: was like scoring like nearly twenty eighty game. Yeah, every

497
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Speaker 1: night he's on. I had like three dunks on Sports

498
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Speaker 1: Center Top ten. Yeah, so I'm going with that one.

499
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Speaker 1: But you're right. Then the injuries happened, and then uho,

500
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Speaker 1: then it got got pretty dark there for raps. Yeah,

501
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Speaker 1: in the middle of the decade. All right, I'm gonna

502
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Speaker 1: give a winner of the weekend to the Grizzlies. You

503
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Speaker 1: said it there, Trey, you slipped it in.

504
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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: They stayed perfect over the NBA weekend, winning two road

506
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Speaker 1: games in two days. They defeated the shorthanded Clippers one

507
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 1: forty to one fourteen on Saturday, and then followed up

508
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Speaker 1: on Sunday. While I was half assed watching the Globes,

509
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Speaker 1: I was really watching Grizzly Suns and they beat the

510
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Speaker 1: Suns one twenty one, one fourteen. It's a scrappy bunch.

511
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Speaker 1: That's five wins now over the last eighty games. They're

512
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Speaker 1: very respectable ten and nine since December first, they are

513
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Speaker 1: in a playoff race in the Western Conference. But it's

514
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 1: just like how they've been doing this too. I mean,

515
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Speaker 1: Saturday was the Ja Morancho that was awesome, twenty two points,

516
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Speaker 1: ninety six, four boards, but the highlights are wild. I mean,

517
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 1: he had the huge, huge two handed oop, some slick dimes,

518
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 1: he dropped Jerome Robinson stared at him, then hit the

519
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 1: step back three Harden esque.

520
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 4: Williams.

521
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Speaker 1: You see how lou was even loving it. And then

522
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Speaker 1: you know, even in that game in the fourth quarter,

523
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Speaker 1: beautiful little floatery hit, you know, navigating the double team

524
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Speaker 1: with his dribble. So he was big in that game.

525
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Speaker 1: Jay Crowder best, maybe best game of his career. Jay

526
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Speaker 1: Crowder one of them at least.

527
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Speaker 3: Auditioning, auditioning for what being moved, getting traded to an

528
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Speaker 3: LA team, It's possible.

529
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Speaker 1: And then on Sunday it was really Valentunis who was

530
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Speaker 1: especially pretty dominant in the first half. He went twelve

531
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Speaker 1: to sixteen from the floor for thirty points, and Dylan

532
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Speaker 1: Brooks Canadian Dylan Brooks over both games on fire from

533
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Speaker 1: downtown six three, six from nine versus the Clips and

534
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 1: then another five before fouling out. Late on Sunday versus

535
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Speaker 1: the Sun. But the Grizzlies right there, I think maybe

536
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: one of the more surprising teams in the league. And

537
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 1: John morandas must watch TV. He's has to be on

538
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: the short list of guys you want to like, either

539
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: go see live or just fire up League Pass to

540
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Speaker 1: see what he's doing. He's not exciting.

541
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Speaker 3: God, definitely, he's shades of young Dereck Rose with the

542
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 3: way he gets to the hoop and has just has

543
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,919
Speaker 3: zero concern for his body or anything that goes on

544
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Speaker 3: in there. But you didn't mention their best player, Jaron

545
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Speaker 3: Jackson Junior. That guy is awesome. It was crazy watching

546
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 3: that son so weird to watch though. He's very awkward,

547
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 3: so awkward. He reminds me a little bit of young

548
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Speaker 3: Kevin Garnett, especially watching against the Suns where both teams

549
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 3: were playing two big so he had Valentunas and Bains

550
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,159
Speaker 3: just smashing into each other. He had DeAndre Ayton out

551
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 3: there looking like the nineteen nineties, and then you had

552
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 3: Jared Jackson Junior just running around, stealing the ball, blocking

553
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Speaker 3: the ball, falling over, pulling from three, catching like a downscreen,

554
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 3: come around up to the top hit a three. He

555
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 3: was incredible. He just looks like he's figuring out the

556
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Speaker 3: way his body works. And I know he has trained

557
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 3: with Kevin Garnett, but the shades of what he's able

558
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 3: to do or there, I don't necessarily think he has

559
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Speaker 3: quite as much like the creation in this game, you know,

560
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 3: like where he's creating plays for others. But he can

561
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 3: get his own shot and he can play defense. He's

562
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Speaker 3: gonna be the Morant and Jaron Jackson Junior. That's a

563
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 3: that's a nice twosome to start with. Then you throw

564
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 3: Brandon Clark in there another option. Yeah, they've got a.

565
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Speaker 1: Future shooter like Brooks and stuff like that.

566
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Speaker 2: Would you rather have?

567
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Speaker 3: Would you rather be the Grizzlies or the Suns?

568
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Speaker 1: I think right there, huh yeah, I think ooh oh man,

569
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Speaker 1: that is tough.

570
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Speaker 4: Jackson's up to threes.

571
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's chucking them.

572
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

573
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Speaker 1: It's such a crazy looking shot. There's the release and

574
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: it's his body looks so wild, especially with its size.

575
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 1: But this is a big stretch for the Grizzlies. They're

576
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Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty two. They're ninth right now in the West,

577
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Speaker 1: but they have three very very winnable games, I'd say

578
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Speaker 1: coming up all at home. They're on a huge home

579
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Speaker 1: stretch here. I think their next six games right at home,

580
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Speaker 1: they play the Wolves on Tuesday, then they got nice break,

581
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 1: they play the Spurs on Friday, and then they have

582
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 1: the Warriors on Sunday. Uh, and then there's yeah there's

583
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,360
Speaker 1: a tough Rockets game, but then the Cows and the Pelicans.

584
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 1: I mean that's that's got a four or five winnable

585
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: games right there. I would say at least four that

586
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 1: they really should should win as you go four and

587
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 1: two at this home stretch, and that would you get

588
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: them closer to five hundred. But they're a fun team.

589
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, that one against San Antonio is huge. Yeah, Yeah,

590
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 4: they could potentially draw even with them more IVI tit

591
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Speaker 4: them if depending on what happens between now and then,

592
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 4: So that could be the bag six point.

593
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Speaker 2: H and earlier in the season, John Morant was sad

594
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 2: a couple of games because of a back to back situation.

595
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 2: He also hurt his back, but also he was just

596
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 2: resting at times earlier this year. Played in those back

597
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 2: to back games this weekend. It's a good sign just

598
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 2: that they're kind of going for it. I think Grizzlies

599
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 2: fans can get excited, and yeah, they've been must watch.

600
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 2: Less than three months into John Morant's career. He's already

601
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Speaker 2: got the YouTube highlight reel. That's ridiculous. Already.

602
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: Some other mini winners here just quickly, Daniel Tice's game

603
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,360
Speaker 1: saving block on Trey Young that was huge on Friday Night.

604
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,360
Speaker 1: Tray should have taken the drive, maybe gotten a little

605
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: floater and created inside. He wanted to go for the

606
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: you know, the game winner there, but nice, you know,

607
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: Tys knew that I'm just gonna take away the three,

608
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 1: like worst case scenario, this will be going to overtime.

609
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: Stayed out on the perimeter. Again, Tray could have gone

610
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: around him, I think everybody agrees with that. But defended

611
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: the shot well and got the block, So that was

612
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 1: big laker. Speaking of blocks, twenty blocks on Sunday versus

613
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 1: the Pistons, twenty that's a lot of blocks, very very rare.

614
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: That is a hell of a lot of blocks. Anthony

615
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: Davis with eight of those, grabbing libly head Van Harden

616
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Speaker 1: Winter the weekend.

617
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Speaker 4: Yeah I got the corner.

618
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.

619
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Speaker 3: The braids throwback. I think he used to wear head

620
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 3: Bandley started with the thunder right in a while.

621
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a long time but and he's continuing

622
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Speaker 1: to kill it. And new Calves guard Dante Exum. It

623
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 1: was in a loss, but you know, he was recently

624
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: acquired in the trade with Utah. Scored a career high

625
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Speaker 1: twenty eight points twenty four in the second half, finished

626
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: eleven or thirteen from the floor, perfect from downtown in

627
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 1: twenty four minutes, and they stormed back. They went on

628
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 1: like a thirty two to six run against the Wolves

629
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: and then they still lost pretty handling.

630
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Speaker 4: Well, he got taken off as well, Yeah he did.

631
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Speaker 1: He was gassed. I think though he was legit gasped.

632
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: Probably would have ride the hot heads that one.

633
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Speaker 4: And just for Dante, I'm sure, considering where his career

634
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 4: has been to this point, he would have loved to

635
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 4: have stayed out there and kept going because he he

636
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 4: looked incredibly confident. Remarkable stuff.

637
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Speaker 1: One more winner of the weekend NBA super fan David Delooper. Guys,

638
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you've been following this or heard

639
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,239
Speaker 1: about this guy, but he is trying to make it

640
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: onto thirty NBA Jumbo trons in just thirty days. He

641
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: started this quest at the seventy six ers game on

642
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: Christmas Day, and after this weekend he has successfully added

643
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: four more Jumbo trons to his mix. So Friday night

644
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: he was dressed as Puffed the Magic Dragon in Orlando.

645
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: Got on Saturday night, he's up here in Atlanta. He's

646
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: in like a dirty bird costume, a bird costume he

647
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Speaker 1: got on. And then Sunday he pulled off the double header,

648
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: successfully landing on both the Clippers and the Lakers jumbotrons

649
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: because they both had games in La. So he's up

650
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: to thirteen games in just twelve days. You can follow

651
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: this guy on Twitter and Instagram hashtag thirty for thirty

652
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: for thirty is what he's calling it. But so far,

653
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: so good, and he's like, like I said, he's always dressing

654
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: in costume at these and I think in the Lakers

655
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: game he had a taco hat on, right even though

656
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: it wasn't Tuesday. But so far, so good. So check

657
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:36,719
Speaker 1: this out. I mean, I think we got to try

658
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: and get this guy on the show up. I've got

659
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: a million questions abounds, like he's busy, well yeah, yeah,

660
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: it might be difficult to find some time, but like,

661
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: why are you doing this? How did this come about?

662
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: I mean, how are you even I guess he does

663
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: have a GoFundMe going. But the costumes, I mean, yeah,

664
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: there are a million questions. That's thirty costumes and he's

665
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: not even halfway through yet. So you know what we're

666
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: gonna We're gonna try. We're gonna reach out to super

667
00:29:58,360 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: fan David here and see if we can try and

668
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: get him on podcast maybe later in the week. All right,

669
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: let's get to losers, losers of the weekend?

670
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 4: Well started, Yeah, okay, I'm going to go out.

671
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: Don't say selma hayek, I'm going to punch it.

672
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 4: Didn't say. I didn't say she was a loser.

673
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: Disappointed you a little?

674
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 4: A little, A little anyway.

675
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: Drop dead gorgeous for fifty three. You wish you'd think

676
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: you probably thought she was twenty three.

677
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 4: No, no, no, okay, anyway, Uh well, listen, A lot

678
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 4: is being made of one particular incident which happened on

679
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 4: Saturday's game between the Cleveland Cavaliers and Oklahoma City Thunder

680
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 4: when Kevin Love sort of got the ball and threw

681
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 4: it in anger to one of his teammates after what

682
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 4: he sort of what being implied that Colin Sexton was

683
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 4: sort of hanging onto the ball and not moving it

684
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 4: around a lot. Now, after the game, Kevin Love saying, no,

685
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 4: that wasn't it. It was just I had a mismatch

686
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 4: on Chris Paul and I should have got the ball,

687
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 4: And Coach Bline said the same thing, Yes, we should

688
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 4: have done that. So that's what Kevin Love was referring

689
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 4: to for that particular incident. But really this highlighted something

690
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 4: that has been going on with Kevin Love and the

691
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 4: Cavaliers now for a lot of this season. He's had

692
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 4: run ins with Kobe Oltman the GM. There he was

693
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 4: threatened with a fine of one thousand dollars by the GM,

694
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 4: which after an incident last week where apparently Kevin Love's

695
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 4: response was go ahead, I've got lots of money, and

696
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 4: a thousand dollars of course, out of all his career earnings,

697
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 4: there's not much. But who's it fault here?

698
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 2: Really?

699
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 4: Is it the Calves or is Kevin Love? Or is

700
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 4: a little bit of both? Because when Kevin Love signed

701
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 4: that contract four years, hundred and twenty million, he still

702
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 4: had a year to go on his current contract. Of course,

703
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 4: why wouldn't he sign that he's that's that's a great contract.

704
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 4: But then he also knew at that point the direction

705
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 4: of the franchise was changing. Lebron wasn't coming back. The

706
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 4: Calves were starting to looking to, you know, for their

707
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 4: future in draft picks and younger guys.

708
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: He says he really wasn't told that though, well, does

709
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: he need to be leaning into being obviously a competent player?

710
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 4: Of sure, I mean no team sort of says, listen,

711
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 4: we're tanking to their face of the guy they just

712
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 4: signed that too. But you can read between the lines here.

713
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 4: So if he's unhappy, fair enough. But if he's going

714
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 4: to sort of start acting petulantly towards a franchise, it's

715
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 4: hard to be too sympathetic in my mind to him,

716
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 4: because again, if someone offers you that contract, you're going

717
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 4: to take it. Of course, the Cavs, I think we're

718
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 4: at fault for even offering him such a silly contract.

719
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 4: I don't think they needed to do that at the time,

720
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 4: for that long, for that amount of money. But it's

721
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 4: almost to me a little bit now like Kevin Love's like, well,

722
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 4: I'm getting paid, I don't want to be here. Trade me,

723
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 4: and you know, what. I'm just going to pout my

724
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 4: way out of here. That's what it's sort of coming

725
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 4: across as here to me, because apparently Kobe Oltman talked

726
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 4: to him earlier in the season about basically bad body

727
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 4: language and not trying, and then he went on on

728
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 4: a role where he started playing really well. Kevin Love's

729
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 4: still an all star caliber player. There's going to be

730
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 4: plenty of interest in him. But he's bringing a big,

731
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 4: fat contract wherever he gets traded to, and I think

732
00:32:59,520 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 4: that's going to.

733
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 3: A lot of money.

734
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 4: He's got a lot of money. There's no doubt he's fine.

735
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 4: He's set for life, his family set for life. But

736
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 4: it's going to be a little harder to trade him

737
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 4: right now because of that big contract. Teams that have

738
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 4: sort of been connected with him, let's say Portland for example,

739
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 4: well they've got Carmelo for the rest of the season,

740
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 4: so I don't think they look necessarily to add him there,

741
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 4: because again, then you get another couple of years of

742
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 4: these thirty million dollars that he's earning after this season,

743
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 4: three more years in fact, so it's going to be

744
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 4: tough for him to get out, to get to a

745
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 4: situation where he is on a challenging team because of

746
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 4: that big contract. Teams are going to have to give

747
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 4: up a lot to get him, and I'm not sure

748
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 4: how many teams out there who are competing are going

749
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 4: to be prepared to give up tons of assets to

750
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 4: ACQUI Kevin Love, who still a good player, but certainly

751
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 4: not I don't think he goes to one team, let's say,

752
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 4: for example, purely hypothetically, the Raptors, and automatically it's like,

753
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 4: well they're a contender. Automatically, again, he can still offer

754
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 4: something to a team, but I don't think the way

755
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 4: that he's behaving is fair to the franchise that gave

756
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 4: him this stupid contract in the first place. So I'm

757
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 4: not sure how this ends there for Cleveland and for

758
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 4: Kevin Love, but I don't think the way to go

759
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 4: about it is to behave with this attitude toward the franchise.

760
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: The poet a little bit.

761
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 3: Yes, his pouting was pretty terrific. It wasn't dissimilar to

762
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 3: when Isaiah Thomas was a Cleveland Cavalier, and there's a

763
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 3: lot of drama in that locker room. And remember there's

764
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 3: like a rebound. Kevin Love got it and Thomas is like,

765
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 3: give me the ball, so he just like sticks his

766
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 3: arms hands it into his hand. We heard the same

767
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 3: complaints from the Cavs last season. At the beginning of

768
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 3: the year, we thought we were going to be a

769
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 3: playoff team. Now we're not. How come they're not trading

770
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 3: the veterans. Eventually Kyle Korver got traded. So yeah, I

771
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 3: guess Kevin Love's just trying to accelerate the process. But

772
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,919
Speaker 3: like you're saying, Lee, he signed that contract. It's easy

773
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 3: to read the tea leads. You know you're not going

774
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 3: to be a great team, even if Tristan Thompson thinks

775
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:01,959
Speaker 3: the East still runs through Cleveland nobody else. So it's tough.

776
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 3: But I guess this is how you get out of

777
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 3: get out of a place, just complain about it.

778
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 2: Well, he wants to be like Jordan Clarkson and get

779
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 2: traded from Cleveland, that's for certain. He could be a

780
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 2: little bit less demonstrative on the court. But he doesn't

781
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 2: like the way they play basketball. I think that's pretty clear.

782
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 2: He doesn't like that they're, you know, basically at the

783
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 2: bottom of passing the ball and assist rate in the league.

784
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 2: And he doesn't like the fact that he is more

785
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,439
Speaker 2: of a you know, a number two on this team

786
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 2: and not like it's a little bit more of a hey,

787
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,760
Speaker 2: let's be a little democratic, let's all share the shots.

788
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 2: He's he's dropped down in the in the sort of

789
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 2: the hierarchy there, and the shots aren't being distributed as

790
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 2: the as the salaries go, not even freaking close. It's

791
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 2: quite the opposite. So like, you know, he's pissed off

792
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 2: with this role, and so yeah, I don't mind a

793
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,240
Speaker 2: little bit of petulance. You know, something has to change. Nobody,

794
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 2: nobody really likes playing there, and nobody really likes the

795
00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 2: way they play.

796
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: He's having flashbacks to his Minnesota days, I think, is

797
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: what's happening here a little.

798
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 3: Bit at least got the ball.

799
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 1: Then, yeah he did, He got big numbers and stuff

800
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: like that. You're right, but his team's stunk. And then

801
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: now then he teams up with Lebron and you're always

802
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: going to the finals and you're winning a ton of games.

803
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 1: And then yeah, the last two years without Lebron, he's won.

804
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't play a lot last year, but

805
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: he's won I don't know, twenty nine combined games over

806
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 1: the two years less than thirty, so he's frustrated. But

807
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: do you think you know, we're all saying it's sort

808
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,439
Speaker 1: of funny at times the way he was going about

809
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: it and his sharp comments back to Kobe Altman and

810
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: who cares? I got the money and there's no feel here.

811
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 1: He kept on like, are we a little hypocritical? Or

812
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: maybe not us, but some people the way like when

813
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis was sort of doing this and I wouldn't.

814
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: I would say he wasn't even nearly as demonstrative on

815
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,240
Speaker 1: the floor with his frustration with the Pelicans front office

816
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: and sort of get me out of here. Well, people

817
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: went nuts, and people went crazy over Rich Paul. I know,

818
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: was was talking about this on the Ding podcast this morning,

819
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: like where's the you know, if you're gonna have that

820
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 1: sort of hate for a d and Rich Paul and

821
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 1: that situation last year, you probably should have the exact

822
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: same feelings to what Kevin Love's doing. But it doesn't

823
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: feel that way. Sure I'm hearing Kevin Loves come up here.

824
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 3: That's definitely true, and I would say it's worse. I

825
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 3: would say it's worse for Kevin Love because he's got

826
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 3: so many years on his deal at least with Anthony Davis.

827
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 3: You're like, he's leaving, He's leaving immediately, so maybe something

828
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 3: needs to happen. But yeah, I mean, I thought Waza

829
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 3: was right that the differences between Kevin Love and Anthony

830
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 3: Davis they're obvious and there's a reason perhaps why Kevin

831
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 3: Love will get a little bit of a pass for this.

832
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 3: But I don't know, it looks it looks like the

833
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 3: Cavs are just the super unhappy team. I also think

834
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 3: on the play where you know he whips the ball

835
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 3: to the corner, part of it is that he's got

836
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,439
Speaker 3: the mismatch down low and he's getting told by his coach,

837
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 3: come up, set a screen, Come set a screen for

838
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 3: this guy and try to get a shoot a shot

839
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 3: off right. It's like, I mean, there are other ways

840
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 3: to attack a mismatch, and maybe a pick and roll

841
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 3: is one way to do it, but that's how you

842
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 3: do it if you want your point guard to be

843
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 3: the superstar.

844
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: At least we got the hilarious social media moment of

845
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,240
Speaker 1: you know Love after that Saturday game, trying to express

846
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: his love to his teammates in the Instagram posts a

847
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 1: bunch of photos you know arms around, he's hugging Sexton.

848
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: There's another one of Jeddi Osmon. There's Larry Nance Jr.

849
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: And then Jeddi Osmond with the unbelievable reaction comment suck

850
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: keV my Man, prayer emoji, flex emoji, just happy. Jeddi

851
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: Osmond sort of feels like, in a weird way, oblivious.

852
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: It feels like to what's going on, having a great

853
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 1: time positive.

854
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 2: I don't I really don't mind what Kevin loves doing

855
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 2: on the floor, Like I just think it means he

856
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 2: cares that they're not playing good basketball. I think that's

857
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 2: what it means. I think it's different than Anthony Davis

858
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 2: in a way that Anthony Davis didn't want to play

859
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:44,959
Speaker 2: basketball for the New Orleans Pelicans.

860
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 3: And sat out Thanks Adam the Pelicans.

861
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 2: Then after he made a trade recrust after he said

862
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 2: I'm not playing. I want to be traded. I'm not playing.

863
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 2: Kevin Love didn't say, hey, I want to leave. I

864
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 2: think there's a difference there. He's playing, he's going out,

865
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 2: he's trying to make.

866
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: The Game's never said I'm not playing.

867
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 2: No, he said I want to I'm not playing for

868
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 2: this franchise. In the future, So get rid of me now,

869
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be here. Yeah, there's a difference,

870
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 2: I think anyway. I think Kevin Love is actually trying

871
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 2: on the floor. I think I think that's really he's

872
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 2: not trying.

873
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 3: He's struck. The clip in the corner where he's just

874
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 3: walking on defense. Is the ball swinging around the corner? Yeah,

875
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 3: he's pulling a Vince Carter.

876
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 2: That that was a I wouldn't go that far.

877
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 3: He's not faking injuries yet.

878
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 2: That's true.

879
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 3: He didn't play, true, he didn't play yesterday yet.

880
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,439
Speaker 4: That was a second nod of a back to back

881
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 4: and he sat the other time. But on the court,

882
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 4: he's If he gets a ball, he's shooting it. But

883
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 4: he's not working as hard as he can. There's no doubt.

884
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: Yeah he's No, he's I would say he's not showing

885
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: leadership qualities that you would want from your max player.

886
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: But he's done with this situation because I don't think

887
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 1: he likes half the players on the team. I don't

888
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: think he likes the coach, sure as hell doesn't seem

889
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: like he likes the GM because he's telling him to off. Basically, yeah,

890
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: he wants out and being a bit of a baby

891
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: about it, and it's probably gonna work because it always works.

892
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 4: Would he would he be behaving like this? So let's

893
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 4: say he was a free agent this season, knowing that,

894
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 4: knowing that he's got now he's got his contract. If

895
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 4: he didn't have a contract going into next season, do

896
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 4: you think he would be playing with this attitude? I

897
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 4: don't think. I think he'd be like, I need to

898
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 4: show that I can still perform to still get some

899
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 4: sort of contract because he's only going to be thirty

900
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 4: two going into next season. So but but he's like,

901
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 4: I'm getting paid, so I'm just going to do what

902
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 4: I want until I find hopefully a situation that I

903
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 4: that I want to be in. But again, that's going

904
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:30,720
Speaker 4: to be a challenge for the Caves.

905
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 1: So Kevin Love gets treated over the weekend. Do we

906
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 1: come in Emergency Drummers. I'm just really worried about Emergency podcast.

907
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: I just want to know what's going on.

908
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 3: Okay, I think Kevin Love miles ahead of Andre drums Now, Miles,

909
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 3: you're really big on Andre Drummond.

910
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,280
Speaker 1: No, I'm just big on Emergency Podcast.

911
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 3: But you're also like, we're going to be talking about

912
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 3: Andre Drummond twenty years from now, Oh yeah you did,

913
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 3: Oh yeah you did. We had a male question about him.

914
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 3: We're gonna talking about Andre Drummer, and in twenty years

915
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 3: you're like, yeah, he rebounds lot. I don't think people

916
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 3: are talking rebounds that much.

917
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 2: Man Skates loves a rebound.

918
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: I thought i'd convince you to love a rebound.

919
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 3: I to love a rebound. But we're sick, gos Man.

920
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 3: We're gonna watch. We're gonna watch whatever dumb tournament they

921
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 3: bring us to watch at any point in the season.

922
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 3: We're gonna watch any play in tournament. We're gonna watch

923
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 3: any stupid idea of the NBA comes up with. That's

924
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 3: not true of everybody. Not everybody loves rebounds as much

925
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:25,720
Speaker 3: as who would you rather.

926
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: Have right now, Kevin Love at his age and his

927
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: contract or Andre Drummond. Let's say, even say it's a

928
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: love like contract, you would go love.

929
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Andre Drummond will get a Kevin Love

930
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 3: like contact for sure, but yeah, I'd rather have love.

931
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: You guys agree with that. I mean, I know it

932
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 1: depends on the situation.

933
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, of course and engaged all Okay, yes.

934
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, you still believe in Kevin Love being

935
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: an all star player.

936
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 4: I think he I think he can be an all

937
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 4: stock caliber player, you know. I mean he gets rebounds

938
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 4: so he can shoot the three. He can be effective.

939
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 3: He's playing big games.

940
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's keep it going, losers the weekend.

941
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 3: Who you got, Trey the Clippers, and I'm gonna give

942
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 3: it to you. Clint Eastwood style, The Good, the Bad,

943
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 3: and the Ugly. He was in The Good, Bad and

944
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 3: in the Ugly when Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think so

945
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 3: Eastwood style Good, the Bad, and the Ugly Good, Yeah, yeah, exactly.

946
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 3: Is he the outlaw Josie Wales in that I don't

947
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 3: know if that's his name. He's in that movie as well,

948
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 3: I don't know, but uh, the Eastwood style coming right

949
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 3: after you, Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. As we

950
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 3: all know. The good they came back to beat the Knicks.

951
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 3: The Clippers did, but they gave up forty five points

952
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 3: in the first quarter. The bad they gave up one

953
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 3: hundred and forty and that loss to the Grizzlies. The

954
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 3: ugly though, is Montres Harrell his quotes after losing to

955
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 3: the Grizzlies. We're not good. He said, we're not a

956
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 3: great team. We're not a great team. I think it's

957
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 3: that we need to realize and wake up. We're a

958
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 3: team that has to figure things out to win night

959
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 3: in and night out. Somebody else asked him what's the

960
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 3: vibe like in the Clippers locker room after this Grizzlies lost.

961
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 3: He says, I don't know. That might be another problem

962
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 3: right there. Doc Rivers says that he doesn't think the

963
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 3: Clippers have an identity, and to me, this is a

964
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 3: little bit of a problem when you're looking forward. You know,

965
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 3: I was happy to take the Clippers preseason to be

966
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 3: a championship team, and that's despite the fact that they

967
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 3: got added two new guys that seem like bringing in

968
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 3: Kawhi Leonard and Paul George, these are the perfect superstars

969
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 3: to add to a Clippers team that was all about

970
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 3: hard work last year, defense, competing, everybody eats all for one,

971
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 3: one for all, and Paul George and Kawhi Leonard, they

972
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 3: are those guys. They do seem to be the superstars

973
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 3: that fit in perfect there, but they're still superstars. Things

974
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 3: are still changing, you know, those guys are still taking

975
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 3: nights off, and I don't know if that has some

976
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,919
Speaker 3: sort of an effect. I don't know if prioritizing health

977
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 3: in the playoffs has an effect during the regular season,

978
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 3: because against five hundred teams, the Clippers are just ten

979
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 3: and seven. They're not showing up to play against five

980
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 3: hundred teams. They're great against teams that are over five

981
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 3: hundred seventeen and five. Wait, am I reading this right?

982
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 4: No?

983
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 3: Ten and seven and they are. You know, they've beat

984
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 3: the Lakers twice, whereas you look at the Lakers, they're

985
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 3: twenty to zer against teams that are five hundred. That's

986
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 3: gonna matter because they're gonna end up with the number

987
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 3: one seed in the playoffs. They're gonna end at least

988
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 3: in the Western Conference. So I don't know if competing

989
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 3: The Lakers have been a lot more focused this year.

990
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,479
Speaker 3: They have been working on getting things right. They've working

991
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 3: on their chemistry, their cohesiveness, just the way they play together,

992
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 3: getting everybody out there and playing together and being the

993
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 3: best they can be. The Clippers have not done that

994
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 3: this year, and we're now halfway through the season. Task

995
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 3: the set up before, you're gonna want all your guys

996
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 3: to be healthy, and you're gonna want to figure things

997
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 3: out so you can be rolling when it comes playoff time,

998
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 3: and surely they have a plan for that. But I

999
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 3: think the Clippers season has been a little bit underwhelming,

1000
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 3: and everybody's dimming in the pass because we know they're

1001
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,399
Speaker 3: playing for the playoffs. But that's why nobody cares about

1002
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 3: the regular season because the team's though.

1003
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I will say Montrez, I mean he

1004
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: talked the talk after that loss, and then he walked

1005
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: the walk, no doubt. You know, against the Knicks, he

1006
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 1: had a monster game. I mean, he was a huge

1007
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 1: reason why they won that game against the Knicks, which

1008
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: isn't great to say, but he went for he tied

1009
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: his career high. The guy can only score thirty four

1010
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: points for whatever reason. He can't get over that. Even

1011
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 1: missus free throws that could have taken over that. But

1012
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 1: he he was money.

1013
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 2: But you are.

1014
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: It is weird that we're like, man, the Clippers are

1015
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: a disappointing team, being twenty six and twelve, and yeah

1016
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 1: they're they're star guys barely playing together. Yeah, it's you're

1017
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 1: not wrong.

1018
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 3: You're not wrong.

1019
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: And it was weird to hear like the alarm bells

1020
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: a little bit for a get from a team that's

1021
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: again that great.

1022
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 2: They're losing to bad teams, So I think that's why

1023
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 2: the alarm bells are going off. But I guess they're

1024
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 2: taking on the persona of their lead guy, and their

1025
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 2: lead guy is Kwi Leonard, who sits out a lot

1026
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 2: of games, and so they're not going to be awesome

1027
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 2: throughout the regular season. But I think you know that

1028
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 2: that guy is going to be awesome when it comes

1029
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 2: to the playoffs because he is every single year, and

1030
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 2: because he just won a championship, and I think, yeah,

1031
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 2: they are.

1032
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, even in the big games this season, he seems

1033
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: to like the ones that feel like playoff games. He

1034
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: goes out and he's like, I'm the best player out here.

1035
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, he can.

1036
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 3: Elevate his game whenever he needs to, There's no doubt

1037
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 3: about that. But that is not what the Clippers were

1038
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 3: about last year.

1039
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're different. They are different. I would just it

1040
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,760
Speaker 2: just feels like if you're watching every game, you definitely

1041
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 2: get worried, but if you zoom out, you say, hey, yeah,

1042
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 2: you know, compare him to the other great teams in

1043
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 2: the West, Like Anthony Davis hasn't been a playoff performer

1044
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 2: in the past. But I know that Kawhi Leonard every year,

1045
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 2: even when Zaza Patulia took him out in the playoffs.

1046
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 2: I mean, he was ready to run rough shot over

1047
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 2: the entire league. So he's ready. I wouldn't. I just

1048
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 2: don't think. You say, you know, they don't look good

1049
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 2: out and that's totally true. I think they'll, you know,

1050
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 2: put it in gear in March or whatever it is,

1051
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 2: and just you know, be ready for April fifteenth or whatever.

1052
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: Who do you have tasks for a loser of the weekend.

1053
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 2: My loser of the weekend dug a little bit deeper

1054
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 2: just talking about those Lakers. It is Kyle Kuzma because

1055
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 2: according to Sam Amic of the Athletics, sources now say

1056
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 2: the Lakers have shown a recent willingness to listen to

1057
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,760
Speaker 2: pitches for Kuzma, so you know, his role has lessened

1058
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 2: a little bit this seasons as a bench player. But

1059
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 2: I wonder is this total speculation from task most But

1060
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 2: was there the kiss of death from lebra And after

1061
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 2: Kawhi and the Clippers beat Lebron's Lakers on Christmas, Kyle

1062
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 2: Kuzma's trader came out on Twitter basically saying there's the

1063
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 2: difference between a guy who trains all the time Kawhi

1064
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 2: Leonard and a guy and Lebron who doesn't. And then

1065
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 2: Kuzma tweeted a couple hours later, it's just a spade,

1066
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 2: call in a spade a spade or whatever. The heck, Yeah,

1067
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 2: that's it, thank you? And so were those connected? Are

1068
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 2: Kyle Kuzma says, huh huh, No, those aren't connected. Why

1069
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 2: did you delete the tweet? Then? Huh, show a little

1070
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 2: strength and just keep that tweet. Well, besides that, Kuzma, Uh,

1071
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 2: space is a good game too. It's called spa hearts.

1072
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: They're they're a little different.

1073
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 2: There's some similarities, but okay, yeah, uh and Kuzma and

1074
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 2: Lebron apparently buried the hatchet. That being said, the sam

1075
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:58,760
Speaker 2: Amic report does lead everyone to believe that Rob Pulnka

1076
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,280
Speaker 2: is listening to calls and the Lakers have a bigger

1077
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 2: need than you know what Kyle Kuzma gives them. I

1078
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 2: think I think that seeing a need that will help

1079
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 2: them get to the championship may have Kuzma as a

1080
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 2: part of a deal to get them another guard. And

1081
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 2: Cham's reported on the other side of things that the

1082
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 2: Lakers aren't looking to shake it up in such a

1083
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 2: major part of the team like Kuzma, who is playing,

1084
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 2: you know, twenty minutes per game off the bench, that

1085
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 2: they're trying to work around the edges, as Shams puts it.

1086
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 2: So maybe it's the Darren Collison free agent signing, or

1087
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 2: maybe it's just a biot guy a little bit later

1088
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 2: and not shake up a guy who is again night

1089
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 2: in and night out, playing off the bench and is

1090
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 2: part of that rotation. But you know, Lebron teams are

1091
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 2: known to really leave the cupboard bear in order to

1092
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 2: win now, now, now, now, now, and Kuzma would be

1093
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:46,919
Speaker 2: a guy in the future that they would have to sign.

1094
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 2: And so you know, I'm reaching here. But you know,

1095
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 2: the reports are that Planka's listening, and I'm buying that anyway.

1096
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 2: I don't know if they're going to pull the trigger.

1097
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: But if Planka is listening, and the Grizzlies should be

1098
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: calling and saying, hey, you want Igodolla, you want Crowder, Hey,

1099
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: we'll take Kuzma off your hands. We'll make that work,

1100
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,439
Speaker 1: that would they should absolutely if if these reports are true,

1101
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: they should be very interested in trying to be up

1102
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 1: because you're right, he's been bad. He was he went

1103
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: from being the second guy last year to suddenly being

1104
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, it feels like at times like the

1105
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,720
Speaker 1: fifth or sixth guy. He's not shooting well.

1106
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 4: But he came into the season injured as well. He's

1107
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 4: got a completely different role. He's on a team now

1108
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,919
Speaker 4: that's got expectations and is winning, and I think different. Yeah,

1109
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 4: I think that's what he's suffering from right now. It's like, oh, man,

1110
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 4: in the last couple of years now and really cared

1111
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 4: what anyone did. Now I've got to go out there

1112
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 4: and perform, and it's exactly yeah right now yeaheah. And

1113
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 4: so it's just it's just different shots, different distribution, and

1114
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,439
Speaker 4: he's he hasn't yet been able to really find a rhythm.

1115
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 4: I think he's a good player. But again I think

1116
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 4: as well, when the Lakers clearly they want to sign

1117
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 4: Anthony Davis next season, he's their focus. Uh and Kuzma

1118
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 4: it would be up for his rookie extension next season,

1119
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 4: So how much are they going to pay him? I'm

1120
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 4: not sure. I think Kuzma would get I think, you know,

1121
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 4: talking about the Grizzlies, I think that would be a

1122
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 4: good spot for him, a young team on the rise. Uh,

1123
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 4: They the Grizzlies get an asset for Riggy and and

1124
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 4: I he goes to the Lakers, where the Lakers would

1125
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 4: love to have him for this season. But I still

1126
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 4: think he's a good player. I think he can be

1127
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 4: a very effective player. But like a lot of young players,

1128
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 4: when you when your career starts off as well as

1129
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 4: his did, it's hard to sort of maintain that when

1130
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 4: when so many circumstances around.

1131
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: Maybe his trainer got him in trouble here the kiss

1132
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,760
Speaker 1: of death, Like is you know, possibly saying it's Lebron

1133
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: ram of death. Oh yeah, you're dead to me. Now

1134
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: get him out of here possible?

1135
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 3: Uh.

1136
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 2: And let's let's keep on with Lebron talking on the

1137
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 2: Instagram where he he went on his ag story after

1138
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 2: Anthony Davis put in what he put on forty one,

1139
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:49,760
Speaker 2: forty six, I think on Friday and eight and Lebron

1140
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 2: I think, you know, basically just creating these own stories

1141
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,240
Speaker 2: in his own hat, the a G story. We still

1142
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 2: gave too much for him, huh was his quote on

1143
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 2: Anthony Davis. Okay, it's maybe you know some Jabroni's on

1144
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 2: Twitter are saying that, but it's a little bit like

1145
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 2: the hashtag washed King. Majority of people are not saying that,

1146
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,760
Speaker 2: And so hey, Lebron creates, you know, he creates the narrative.

1147
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 2: He does whatever he wants. But I am sure I

1148
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 2: don't know if he gave me the kiss of death.

1149
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 2: But I am certain you brought up a good alla skits.

1150
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 2: That's it. That is a trade that Lebron would salad.

1151
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 3: It's a toughie though ye was making less than two dollars.

1152
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 2: The problem I'm on the TM right now.

1153
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: Ye look right, I did the old throw it out

1154
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: there like you can do it easily. I didn't mean

1155
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:36,399
Speaker 1: to make it sound like that, but I'm saying, maybe

1156
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: there's something you.

1157
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 3: Got to pile up a lot of guys.

1158
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he could also, I mean, he can wife

1159
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 4: some of that salary. I believe he's going to not

1160
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 4: in it. Well that's his if that's his chance to

1161
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 4: get to likes. I mean, maybe you give up a couple.

1162
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 2: Well, he couldn't be traded and say hey give me

1163
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 2: ten million less like on the books. It still has

1164
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 2: to equal out in a trade, or he can be

1165
00:51:58,120 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 2: bought out. I mean there's one or the other.

1166
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:00,439
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1167
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he says he's not being bought or a

1168
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 2: three way. There's a three way.

1169
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, I got to ask it. Are we doing

1170
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: an emergency podcast if Kyle Kuzma gets traded?

1171
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 2: I just need to know.

1172
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 3: Okay, Kuzma for drumming them in on. Hey, here's what

1173
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 3: I'll get traded for each other.

1174
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 1: I'll be Here's what we're doing later today. We're printing

1175
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: out every single player in the NBA. We're putting it

1176
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: up on our wall, and then we are deciding whether

1177
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,479
Speaker 1: we're coming in for an emergency podcast if that player

1178
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: is traded.

1179
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 3: It sounds like great content.

1180
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 1: That's true. Okay, some other mini losers just quick. I

1181
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 1: think the Sixers have to be in the mix there.

1182
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: They only lost one game over the weekend, but there

1183
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 1: was their fourth straight and uh Jowell Embiid He admitted

1184
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: after the game the losing streak was taking a toll

1185
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 1: on this team. So Sixers, uh, you know, after that

1186
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: huge Christmas Day win over the Bucks and everyone got

1187
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: really excited again, suddenly looked rough and are just not

1188
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 1: playing up to obviously their ability. So Sixers in there.

1189
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving's shoulder injury at least the news coming from

1190
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 1: that a little worrisome, a little you know, loser risk

1191
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: losers because he said he received a courtisone shot right

1192
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 1: before Christmas in an attempt to delay or eliminate the

1193
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:10,879
Speaker 1: possibility of having shoulder surgery. But they're waiting now, they're

1194
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: waiting this out to see, how, you know, does it work,

1195
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 1: will it flare back up?

1196
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 3: That's not good.

1197
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 1: That's like, I'm you know, are we I assume Kyrie's

1198
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 1: gonna play again this year, but I'm not. I don't know,

1199
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 1: maybe not at this point.

1200
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 2: Maybe they just like, no, it hadn't come up until

1201
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 2: Kyrie spoke for the first time in a month and

1202
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,399
Speaker 2: a half. And now there's a chance, right, Yeah.

1203
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 3: Is it a Mark hell Fults shoulder where you're gonna

1204
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 3: be sitting the whole thing? Or is it a Paul

1205
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 3: George shoulder where it hurts but you can play through

1206
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 3: it and you're maybe not as good as you are.

1207
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, So so we'll see with that that that sucks

1208
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 1: obviously for NETS fans, And then yeah, I'm gonna throw

1209
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: the bills in there for a loser of the weekend too.

1210
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: Blowing a sixteen o lead to the to the Texans

1211
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 1: Classic Bills.

1212
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 3: I was happy to see our football acumen was really

1213
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 3: on display because they allen threw that bomb to to

1214
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:58,800
Speaker 3: a guy and We're like, you do not want to

1215
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 3: be throwing a bomb to a guy who's number forty two. Yeah,

1216
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 3: a double covered a hail married to a number forty two.

1217
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 3: And then I saw on Twitter later that night funniest

1218
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 3: play was when Josh Ivan threw a hail Mary to

1219
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 3: a fullback. I was like, yeah, the boys know the bull.

1220
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, funniest play throwing a jump ball to a

1221
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 1: guy that can't jump. That's what happened.

1222
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 3: Go d forty two.

1223
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, those two sacks there on our rough,

1224
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: rough rough stuff. Feel bad for Jack or I'm strong really,

1225
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 1: so those are our winners and losers the weekend. Let

1226
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: us know who you guys have hashtag no dunks at,

1227
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:29,919
Speaker 1: no dunks ink.

1228
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 2: Let's get to tweeted the night, tweet out the night. Wow.

1229
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 2: I feel like we've covered the NBA extensively enough today

1230
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 2: on today's show, so I'm taking out of the NBA

1231
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 2: world for now. The tweet of the night goes to

1232
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 2: musician Jene Simmons with not the most correct tweet to night.

1233
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 2: It's a few days old, but it's still making waves. Now,

1234
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:01,800
Speaker 2: hopefully we get to a skeet's story about being on

1235
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 2: an airplane with Gene Simmons, only one row away between

1236
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 2: first class and coach, but right behind them. Yeah. But

1237
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 2: this week Simmons tweeted a photo of his cereal No

1238
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 2: Biggie right, but the cereal had ice cubes in it.

1239
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 2: Oh God, weird right? He is apparently a guy who

1240
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 2: eats cereal with ice cubes all the time. He tweeted,

1241
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 2: anyone else put ice cubes in their cereal? Now it's

1242
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 2: a combo of oreo o's or whatever those are called.

1243
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 2: They're just they're just chocolate circles and mini wheats and

1244
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 2: huge cubes floating in milk. And his son, Nick Simmons

1245
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 2: even tweeted in response, thirty thirty years of this. He's

1246
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 2: been doing this for thirty years. He doesn't think it's

1247
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:58,720
Speaker 2: weird whatsoever, and he is pretty angry about it. TMC

1248
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 2: asked him about it, and he saidyeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1249
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 2: I'm making news with my cereal. You got you got

1250
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,439
Speaker 2: putin over there and Kim jongan over there, and I'm

1251
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 2: making news with my cereal he just likes it ice cold,

1252
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 2: I guess, but it's really there's a lot of cubes

1253
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 2: in there.

1254
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not kidding. Those are huge cubes.

1255
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1256
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 1: Is he when he's eating the cereal like takes somebody

1257
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: to the cereal with the milk and then he's like,

1258
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 1: does he then take like a cube? Like does he

1259
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 1: suck on cube bet? Or does he literally just let

1260
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: it dissipate? No, keep the milk cold.

1261
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 2: I'm glad you asked. I'm glad you asked that he

1262
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 2: did expand it and basically said that he likes his

1263
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 2: milk cold. Okay, so it's not it's not for the

1264
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 2: cube in the morning. Uh, he doesn't put that in there.

1265
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:40,879
Speaker 2: But Yeah, there's a nice shot of him in his robe.

1266
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:42,919
Speaker 2: You don't see his head, but he's he's just having

1267
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 2: some breakfast and it looks like he's cutting it with

1268
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 2: a knife or like he's looking he looks like he's

1269
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:49,919
Speaker 2: using his spoon as a knife, which is really weird.

1270
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 4: How big is that bowl as well?

1271
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 1: There?

1272
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,800
Speaker 4: That's I mean, that's gigantic.

1273
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 2: His tongue, right, we're looking at different photos.

1274
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 4: It's the same thing, looks the same. It's the same

1275
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 4: slide show.

1276
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 2: That's a different that's a different bowl of food though.

1277
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 4: Looks like he's got like sort of some sort of

1278
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 4: flaky cereal there with raspberries or something. Yeah, my god,

1279
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 4: that's a lot.

1280
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 2: Oh you're on his Instagram, so things are different on Twitter.

1281
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 2: Oh wow, this is a bit. Maybe it's a bit.

1282
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 2: He's seventy years old. He's still eating cereal.

1283
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,919
Speaker 1: Does he? I mean he's has an iconic long tongue. Yeah,

1284
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: just lap it up like a cat, like he doesn't

1285
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: need a spoon or.

1286
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 4: I saw Kiss last year and constantly throughout the show,

1287
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 4: he is just putting that tongue out to give the

1288
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 4: fans what they want. Yeah, it's an it's gigantic as well.

1289
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, you get upset about Semma Hiak showing off the goods,

1290
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: but no problem with.

1291
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,439
Speaker 4: His tongue is real, man, His tongue is real.

1292
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 1: O's fine, man, that's.

1293
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 2: Everything is real about Salmahyak. Yeah, an keep it a

1294
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 2: hundred ate. Do you want to tell your gene Simons?

1295
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: No, I helped him with his luggage and what did

1296
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 1: he call me?

1297
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 2: Something? Sexy?

1298
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 3: Strong and sexy?

1299
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, younger, yeah, young and sexy. Man are strong

1300
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 1: and sexy man.

1301
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 2: Yeah you were young, yeah, because so you were in coach.

1302
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's right behind him. You're right, he was in

1303
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: first class, but I was in that comfort seat right

1304
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: behind him with that tiny little uh you know. We

1305
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 1: were on a small I guess a fairly small plane

1306
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: with a tiny little curtain. And then we got up

1307
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, that's Geene Simmon.

1308
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 3: That's cool.

1309
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: And then his bag was like I think his bag

1310
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 1: was under his seat. Actually I don't remember reaching above

1311
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: and he was like, yeah, hey, strong and sexy. He

1312
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 1: called me strong and sexy. I think it was to

1313
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: help him with his bag.

1314
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he couldn't access he couldn't pick it up

1315
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 2: with his tongue was it was behind the seat. So

1316
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 2: the strong and sexy, all.

1317
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 1: Right, pick him. Results Friday night it was Pelican's Lakers.

1318
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: Lakers were favored by ten and a half, had to

1319
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 1: win by eleven. They only ten. That is a Pelican's

1320
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 1: cover and that means task and I got it correct.

1321
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 1: On Friday night, Trey and Lee took the l So

1322
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 1: for the month of January, we're obviously early into it here.

1323
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 1: I'm still perfect. I'm two and oh everybody else won

1324
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: in one. I know there's a lot of games on tonight.

1325
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 1: What's our pickham game they're tasting.

1326
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 2: We mentioned in the Philadelphia seventy six Ers have lost

1327
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 2: four in a row. They are at home today to

1328
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 2: the OKC Thunder, who are on fire. They've won five

1329
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 2: straight and have won nine of ten. Wow, what Sixers.

1330
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 2: I don't know how the line is this big, but

1331
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 2: it is. It's seven and a half, huh, which is

1332
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 2: a little bit odd.

1333
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: Sixers are favored by seven and a half despite their

1334
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 1: struggles and the Thunder rocking and rolling right now.

1335
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, game the Thunder.

1336
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 2: I think you know what.

1337
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna jump right into it. Give me the Sixers.

1338
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 1: Vegas knows something that I don't know. Give me the

1339
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: Sixers in a in a an odd cover here to

1340
00:59:59,120 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 1: win my.

1341
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 4: Eater more God, I'm going Thunder.

1342
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm gonna be a Garth Brooks on

1343
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 3: this one. The Thunder rolls. They've been good on the

1344
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 3: road against the spread. Research baboo. Yeah that's right. I

1345
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 3: googled one thing.

1346
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 2: Haters they have been They've been awesome and they play

1347
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 2: a lot of close games. So seven and a half

1348
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 2: is it makes sense that they've been good on the road. Ats,

1349
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 2: I'm taking the six. I think we're gonna win.

1350
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 3: Did you google that thing?

1351
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 2: Though?

1352
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 1: Those records had a lot of tass and I on

1353
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 1: one side of the bet and Tray on the other.

1354
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 2: It feels like following you man, all right, you're doing

1355
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 2: all right?

1356
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's had a pretty good, pretty good record this

1357
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 1: year for me, usually had some bad years, all right.

1358
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 1: So uh yeah, Tassa and I are taking.

1359
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 3: Philly to win by anymore Trently go see the cover.

1360
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 1: Guys, Thanks for joining us today. That was a long Monday,

1361
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 1: but we talked about a lot. Drummond and Love and

1362
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 1: Kuzma and Selma hik and Jeane Simmons.

1363
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,919
Speaker 3: Football man, football full back?

1364
01:00:58,080 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 1: Who do you like winning the Super Bowl? Now that

1365
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:01,439
Speaker 1: that TV twelve's out?

1366
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 3: Oh? TV twelve? I mean, who's been the best teams

1367
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 3: this year? Ravens, Ravens are playing well for Jackson, might

1368
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 3: be in the m v P forty nine Ers, Oh,

1369
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 3: Jimmy g coming through in the clutch. Give me the Packers?

1370
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 2: Are they in it?

1371
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 3: Oh?

1372
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1373
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 3: Oh gotta buye Rogers's balling Dog. This one's for Dwaynee.

1374
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 3: Who you like?

1375
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, Le bar sure, Yeah, yeah, who's left pack

1376
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 4: is forty.

1377
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 3: Nine is Ravens, Shikings, Chiefs, Titans, Texans, Titans, Sexans?

1378
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 2: Nice? I think we got it's good.

1379
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, give me the Seaholk.

1380
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 1: Okay, shout out to me Times Nice.

1381
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 3: What you like?

1382
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 2: You mentioned the trade Jimmy G. It's like, who the

1383
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 2: heck is that? Jimmy Garoppolo. I like that name, Pat

1384
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 2: jim Niners. Yeah that should have kept Hill right.

1385
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 3: Brandy Gouta passed the torch? You kidding me?

1386
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:59,439
Speaker 1: Oh all right, clubb bros you heard it here first.

1387
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 3: Have a great turn up. Love you guys awesome.

1388
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, and remember Jimmy G. Jimmy gets

1389
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 2: Super Bowls.

1390
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 1: Embrace the day.

1391
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 2: People. You could stay every day.

1392
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 1: And and you happy every minute. It's been so long

1393
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 1: that your no mona waiting for.

1394
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 2: It's happened already. It's gonna be goody