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Speaker 2: Finally leaving a five star review by Verb eight the

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Speaker 2: one of the most unique podcasts I've ever had the

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Speaker 2: pleasure to listen to. I can't tell how long I've

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Speaker 2: my journey into becoming a fully actualized adult who is

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Speaker 2: I've been grown for years, but I didn't always realize

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Speaker 2: I can make some of my own rules. I appreciate

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Speaker 2: the many different povs I can assess just as a listener.

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Speaker 2: It helps to keep things in perspective and get to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right about making up your rules. A lot

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Speaker 3: And once I realized that I had to question myself,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very scary, and I think it's scary for

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Speaker 2: I understand where you're coming from, and I respect it,

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Speaker 2: can't be vaccinated yet. And you know, I've read an

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Speaker 2: article today a woman had to choose between having all

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Speaker 2: of her child's limbs amputated or letting them die, and

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Speaker 2: she let her child die, you know, And I don't

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Speaker 2: even and you know, I don't want to simplify it

435
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Speaker 2: too much, but because I don't even know if it

436
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Speaker 2: was as simple a choice like it could have been,

437
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Speaker 2: like even if you cut off his limbs, they may

438
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Speaker 2: still die. So it was, but the fact that someone

439
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Speaker 2: has to make a choice like that about their ten

440
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Speaker 2: year old, I don't want to shed on anybody. And

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Speaker 2: you know, I think it's horribly irresponsible what some states,

442
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Speaker 2: in some school districts are doing where they're anti even

443
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Speaker 2: just masking, anti social distance and anti contact traitsing and

444
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 2: anti going home for ten days or whatever. Like those

445
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Speaker 2: ideas to me are so.

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Speaker 3: Dangerous, right, And like you said, people that act like

447
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Speaker 3: something's wrong with you when you go these kids, y'all, No,

448
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Speaker 3: they are not dying. But now as a parent, I

449
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Speaker 3: have a permanent medical bill that I did not have before.

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Speaker 3: You know, Now, now as a parent, I have something

451
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Speaker 3: that has permanently impacted my child's life and my life forever.

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Speaker 3: You know, Now as a parent, I have to deal

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Speaker 3: with things that I before didn't have to deal with

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Speaker 3: all because you all, because the people in charge did

455
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Speaker 3: not care and didn't give a fuck about my child.

456
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Speaker 3: And I think is people go, well, most children don't die.

457
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Speaker 3: You don't care to this your child, that's the thing.

458
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Speaker 3: And so a lot of parents go like it could

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Speaker 3: be my child. You got a lot of parents go,

460
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Speaker 3: it's anybody's child, of mind, And those two perspectives are

461
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Speaker 3: completely different.

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Speaker 2: Perspectives, right, So I think that's like I said, that's big,

463
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Speaker 2: and I'm glad. I'm glad to have a show that's

464
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Speaker 2: not making people feel, you know, like they're like, it's

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Speaker 2: not justified. You're doing what it takes to take and

466
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Speaker 2: keep your kids safe. And I think once people are

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Speaker 2: able to get their kids vaccinated, then there'll be a

468
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Speaker 2: lot less worried in general in society. Not because you know,

469
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Speaker 2: kids can still pass it on. Kids can be vectors

470
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Speaker 2: even if they're not as big a vector as you know,

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Speaker 2: like an elderly person or something.

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Speaker 3: And also, before we go on, I know we talked

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Speaker 3: about this before, people not like kids are not impacted

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Speaker 3: by COVID at all, Like now I'm not talking about

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Speaker 3: the even catching it or death. People act like kids

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Speaker 3: themselves with their parents and their guardians and their teachers

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Speaker 3: and their loved ones and their friends. All this death,

478
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Speaker 3: all is dying, people getting sick and their lives rocking

479
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Speaker 3: and changing. They act like that shit does not mentally

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Speaker 3: impact kids because they they love to throw that kids

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Speaker 3: you know need to go to school, which you know

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Speaker 3: in some instances they do because like some adults, you

483
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Speaker 3: actually need to interact with people, but you need to

484
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Speaker 3: do it safety and you need to do a wise.

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Speaker 3: You just can't throw your children to the wild wild

486
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Speaker 3: West and throw it all behind mental illness. You can't

487
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Speaker 3: do that because a lot of them don't give a

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Speaker 3: fuck about mental illness, because if you did, you would

489
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Speaker 3: be concerned about the mental illness impacting these children for

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Speaker 3: the rest of their lives due to all this death

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Speaker 3: surrounding them in sickness.

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Speaker 2: Ms Arry Smile says, this is going to be a

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Speaker 2: long comment, but I feel it's important for your listeners

494
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Speaker 2: to hear and validate your efforts because one of the

495
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Speaker 2: things you've been relentless about appropriately is the Rona and

496
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Speaker 2: I've been in agreement with you one hundred percent. First,

497
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 2: I fell in love with your podcast when I started

498
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 2: listening to your Game of Throngs recaps then stay for

499
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 2: the rest becoming a Premium member because I can't express

500
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,239
Speaker 2: how much I love what you say and how you

501
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 2: do what you do. You really caused me to critically

502
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,640
Speaker 2: think and laugh and having you, especially during the pan

503
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Speaker 2: Don't Say, has been a god send. Thank you. We

504
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 2: appreciate the support, and I really low you said about

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00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 2: the critical thinking thing, because I think what people probably

506
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,199
Speaker 2: believe is, especially when we get really passionate, is that

507
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 2: we're walking out of the podcast and now everybody better

508
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 2: do what we do. But sometimes I'm like, maybe I

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Speaker 2: helped sharpen somebody else's point, because I mean, there's plenty

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Speaker 2: of people listening to shit and be like I don't

511
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Speaker 2: agree with that, but maybe they had something else to

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Speaker 2: consider to be like, well, I hadn't thought about that.

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Speaker 2: That happens to me a lot because I listened to

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Speaker 2: a lot of shows, and I listen to a lot

515
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 2: of shows about things I care about and from people

516
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 2: that have different experiences than me. So sometimes I'm like,

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Speaker 2: sometimes it really will be the thing. I'm like, Nah,

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Speaker 2: that's some bullshit because of this, Or then sometimes I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I hadn't thought of that. That's valid. I should I

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00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 2: should try to figure out a way to think about

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00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 2: that and talk about that when I'm talking, so that

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Speaker 2: I'm not leaving that perspective out of the room. When

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Speaker 2: the vaccine became available after some initial hesitancy, I jumped

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Speaker 2: on it in March of this year, So imagine my

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Speaker 2: surprise and disappoint And when I contracted COVID nineteen two

526
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Speaker 2: weeks ago, I began having symptoms congestion, running those call

527
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Speaker 2: loss of smell and tastes following the four day of

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Speaker 2: social gatherings. I'm not careless. I'm always masked, and the

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Speaker 2: small social gatherings with friends I attended are with vaccinated

530
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Speaker 2: or masked folks. I have no clue where or how

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Speaker 2: I contracted it well, concerning the most was spreading it

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Speaker 2: to others I had been socializing with, including some who

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Speaker 2: were immuno compromised, and my eighty year old mother whose

534
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Speaker 2: birthday we were celebrating. Fortunately, since they were all vaccinated,

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Speaker 2: no one has tested positive. I repeat no one. My

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Speaker 2: symptoms were mild and have abated for the most part.

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Speaker 2: My smell has almost completely returned and taste is coming

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Speaker 2: back slowly. I faithfully isolated for the requisite ten days.

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Speaker 2: Yeah and if you were, like you said, even at

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Speaker 2: these gatherings, everyone's vaccinating and stuff, but you said that

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Speaker 2: you were still wearing your mask. That's probably what stopped

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Speaker 2: the spread, cause you know, if it was deltavaria, it

543
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Speaker 2: doesn't take as much time or you know, it doesn't

544
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Speaker 2: take as much time and and and uh, it doesn't

545
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Speaker 2: take as hot big a viral load to like pass

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Speaker 2: it on because it spread so much faster and you

547
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Speaker 2: yield so much more to virus coming out of your body.

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Speaker 2: But that's interesting. If you were wearing your mask and

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Speaker 2: you were at a party and no one else test

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Speaker 2: the positive, that's you know, shout out to the vaccines

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00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 2: and shout out to social distancing, and shout out the mask.

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Speaker 3: People underestimate the power of a motherfucking mask. Mask matter,

553
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Speaker 3: Mask really do matter. And actually you're following the rules

554
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Speaker 3: because they tell you if you're in a big gathering

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Speaker 3: like that, you should wear masks. And that's the one

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Speaker 3: thing they tell you.

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Speaker 2: And even if you got it while wearing your mask,

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Speaker 2: you probably got a lower load than you would have

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Speaker 2: without a mask, agreed. So yeah, you know, shout out

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Speaker 2: the mask. That's that's real. That's look between the vaccine

561
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Speaker 2: in the mask. That's all I'm depending on. I'm not

562
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Speaker 2: gonna stop living my life and not do anything and

563
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 2: not go anywhere because I think, honestly, I think those

564
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 2: days are just pretty much over. I don't think we

565
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Speaker 2: have a choice anymore. Things are starting to open back up.

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Speaker 2: I think that when employers really like twist the screws

567
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Speaker 2: and be like, we made these vaccine mandates because eventually

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Speaker 2: we want you to come to work, people will not

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Speaker 2: have a choice and we're gonna just be out here

570
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Speaker 2: trying to minimize the risk. What I got from this

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Speaker 2: is one the vaccine works, and two the vaccine works

572
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Speaker 2: to protect others right while minimizing the effect on the

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Speaker 2: one who contracts it. I am fortunate that I've been

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Speaker 2: working remotely since the panoramics, so no coworkers were effected,

575
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Speaker 2: but given my activity the weekend I came down with symptoms,

576
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Speaker 2: many people were impacted, their own status, their work, their families,

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Speaker 2: their life events, and countless others. Getting the vaccine is

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Speaker 2: not only to protect yourself, but it's for those you

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Speaker 2: love and care about in your community. I can't stress

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Speaker 2: that enough. Thank you for staying relentless on this though

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Speaker 2: I've not been though, I've not been living fearfully of

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Speaker 2: the virus by staying in my home and not engaging

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Speaker 2: in activities, and felt I needed to find somewhere to

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Speaker 2: live comfortably and carefully with this virus, and I ventured

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Speaker 2: out with care. Since I've been vaccinated, this experience is

586
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 2: driven home. The virus is alive and well, and we

587
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 2: don't know everything there is to know. I will now

588
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Speaker 2: double mask without inside and outside. Although my centrals are

589
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 2: relatively maud, it's not experienced. I want to have again,

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Speaker 2: precisely because I don't know what the long term effects are.

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Speaker 2: I've also joined the study with the naturalists to the

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Speaker 2: Health specifically for minority health, for them to follow me

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Speaker 2: for the next six months, because I want to contribute

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Speaker 2: to the study of the impact of the virus.

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Speaker 3: Come on steady group, man, because that's how they find

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Speaker 3: out answers. People go, well, they don't have black and

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Speaker 3: brown people, but now I'm not volunteering. They don't have kids,

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Speaker 3: but not my kids. You know, we don't know what's happening,

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Speaker 3: but not this and not that. Well, somebody got to

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Speaker 3: be in the group, man.

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Speaker 2: We got some citizens up it there listening to this show.

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Speaker 2: Come on from thank you before. I live in Governor

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Speaker 2: Dinner Party state, which has some of the strictest COVID mandates.

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Speaker 2: My my honey, my county and city do as well,

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Speaker 2: and not long after, California had the longest lowest number

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, lowest number of COVID growth rates because of it.

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Speaker 2: So stay relentless at your COVID news. You're right, Thank you,

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Speaker 2: Rid and Karen, thank you. And we also had the

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Speaker 2: pole results, which was pumpkin spice, yes, yes or yummy

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Speaker 2: to no comment whatever.

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Speaker 3: The second one was yes.

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Speaker 2: Thirty nine point five three percent said yes, thirty nine

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Speaker 2: point five three percent said yes, and twenty one percent

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Speaker 2: said yummy. So we love to see it. Like I said,

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Speaker 2: I don't see any comments, but that may be uh,

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Speaker 2: maybe I may did something wrong there. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: You might not have gave it option.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I might have missed suff or maybe just there

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Speaker 2: was nothing to say because we all agree. And then

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Speaker 2: of course the website, I mean Spotify Pumpkin Spice the

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Speaker 2: poe yes yes, so yummy yes, thirty three percent yes,

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Speaker 2: forty percent I'm so proud of y'all, and twenty six

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Speaker 2: percent yummy. What should we love to see see it?

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Speaker 2: Nothing but support, And of course we have comments on stop.

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Speaker 2: The comment I left for the Q and A was

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Speaker 2: stop streaming R kelly music and listen to our podcasts instead.

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Speaker 2: Uh and people left comments for Dora says duh. And

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Speaker 2: I see what y'all did there with omitting the answer

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Speaker 2: choice no for the poll this week, because I would

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Speaker 2: have voted no, but now I can't vote. Whatever do

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Speaker 2: you mean? Introvert M says never really was a fan

632
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Speaker 2: of R Kelly, except for when my brother and I sang,

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Speaker 2: I believe I could fly to talent show in elementary

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Speaker 2: and got second place. Will make me feel lowd I think,

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Speaker 2: Katie and says I've been stopped. Chevy says great idea,

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00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 2: k Tom says absolutely ha ha, and ms Burne says

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Speaker 2: I left trapped in the closet back in two thousand

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00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 2: and five where it belongs ha ha. Absurd for Spoonful

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Speaker 2: says lol, I wasn't going to listen to R Kelly,

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Speaker 2: but here I am. Well, thank you, and we appreciate

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Speaker 2: you listening to us instead. Okay, we saw the streaming

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00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 2: numbers went up five hundred percent, and I said damn.

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Speaker 2: Maybe nobody's asked, can y'all just go listen to us instead,

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Speaker 2: and then maybe we'll get some of them numbers down.

645
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Speaker 2: So now we got it the four hundred and ninety

646
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Speaker 2: nine percent. We had episode twenty four to twenty eight

647
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 2: Chappelle's Sleight of Hand, where I talked for a very

648
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 2: long time about Chappelle's Netflix special. But you know, I

649
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 2: got some really good feedback in person and talking to

650
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 2: people that heard that episode. And because you know, I

651
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 2: was a little self conscious about that. I try not

652
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 2: to do that too often on the show where it's

653
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: like just me talking for a long period of time,

654
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 2: because U obviously y'all come to hear both of us

655
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 2: back and forth. But that was one that just kind

656
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 2: of really I have been thinking about a lot, and

657
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 2: as a straight black dude assist had black Man, it was,

658
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 2: you know, I try not to pull that card out

659
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: too often, and I'm not trying to turn the show

660
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 2: into like the wokal Throng and shit or turn everybody off,

661
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,240
Speaker 2: but sometimes I feel like somebody needs to give another

662
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 2: perspective than just a typical like y'all bitches need to

663
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 2: take a joke, get the fuck over it and pot

664
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 2: and shit, you know, And I think listening of enough podcast, y'all,

665
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 2: I know y'all are getting that opinion left and right.

666
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 3: Yes you are, I know you are.

667
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 2: And also you know you higher up podcast people that

668
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 2: may even be affiliated with or be able to, you know,

669
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 2: the one day they're thinking Dave's gonna come on my show,

670
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 2: they can't say but so much right, you know what

671
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 2: I mean? Some of them might stick their neck out,

672
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 2: but most of them, if they even give a fuck,

673
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 2: know that. Well, I'm burning the bridge with a very

674
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 2: power full, big time dude, and if I say some

675
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 2: file shit, he could be like, fuck y'all. You know,

676
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 2: our tic chick says on Chappelle. Uh because this episode

677
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 2: eight Chappelle Slider had on Chappelle. I watched his special

678
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 2: because I watch almost all Netflix stand up specials. This

679
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 2: is the first time I wasn't excited to watch Dave.

680
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 2: Some jokes were fine, but Dave was most definitely on

681
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 2: some white man shit. As soon as he was as

682
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 2: he was refused something, he proceeds to show us how

683
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 2: he could do whatever the hell he wanted whatever. At

684
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 2: the end of the day, the jokes just didn't land Yeah,

685
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 2: that's a big part of it for me too, because

686
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 2: you know, I am still comedy first type of person. Yes,

687
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 2: and I will laugh. I mean, y'all hear it all

688
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 2: the time. I'll laugh at something fucked up. I'llaugh it

689
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,919
Speaker 2: something fucked up in real life, Like it don't even

690
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 2: gotta be some like hypothetical joke to somebody. Man, It's

691
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 2: just sometimes my first response is to some horrible shit

692
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 2: is like, god, damn, they was doing what playing monkey sounds?

693
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 3: You know, like what does that happen here?

694
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 2: So there's things I laugh at where it's not that complicated,

695
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 2: and I wouldn't consider myself to be a very uptight

696
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 2: podcast like a comedy listener. And you know, I've been

697
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 2: talking with it with BOSSI and stuff. We've been talking

698
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 2: about just the kind of the environment around all this

699
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 2: Chappelle shit for the last few years. And one of

700
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 2: the things I said was it was just so sadly

701
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 2: predictable because he knows that we the culture, the zeitgeist.

702
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 2: He's such a huge presence. He knows people are going

703
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 2: to talk about it no matter what. And I think

704
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: he's made this point many times over the last few specials,

705
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 2: to the point where it's not like anyone was swayed

706
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 2: or it was really just a doubling down. It was

707
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 2: a lot of anger. It was a lot of like,

708
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 2: I dare, y'all, I'm proving that y'all can't do shit,

709
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 2: and I dare, y'all, I'm doing it again. And it

710
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 2: felt more like a waste of time. And I've never

711
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 2: felt that way, particularly about his specials, until he started

712
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 2: this Netflix thing, where it's just like this is kind

713
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 2: of a waste of time. You didn't really do any

714
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 2: new jokes, You didn't really say a lot of new shit.

715
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 2: It was kind of just you know, same old Dave.

716
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 2: And it really sent a signal to people like go

717
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 2: out and fight and double down and let's argue about

718
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 2: it and write your think pieces and try to quote

719
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 2: unquote cancel me. And I'm like, yeah, but you know,

720
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,919
Speaker 2: racist white people have been doing that kind of stand

721
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 2: up for years now, like especially after Obama, Like there's

722
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 2: a shit turn of racist white comedians that just make

723
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 2: come cancel me jokes.

724
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 3: That's yeah, come cancel me tours, like like like that

725
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,479
Speaker 3: whole thing is there is that and you know that's

726
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 3: what they do. And you know, for me, I love comedy,

727
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 3: you know. And I'm similar to you. I can laugh

728
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 3: at anything if it's presented in the right way, and

729
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 3: if it's structured in the right way, and if it's funny,

730
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 3: you know, punching down, punching up. I don't give a

731
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 3: fuck if it's presented and it's funny. And we live

732
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 3: in a society where people think just because you laugh

733
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 3: at something means you believe it, and you believe it

734
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,439
Speaker 3: and you support it. That is completely false. I don't

735
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 3: know where that dynamic came into comedy, but people kiss

736
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 3: my ass for that. Just because I laugh at something

737
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 3: does not mean I agree with it, and does not

738
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 3: mean that I think that it's factor and all that shit.

739
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 3: It doesn't, you know, because to me, that's not the

740
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 3: concept of comedy. And the thing is people in the past,

741
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 3: even people's favorite if you go back and watch their comedies,

742
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 3: all comedy does not stand the test of time. And

743
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 3: some comedy is in the time capsule, and what was

744
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 3: funny twenty five years ago may not be funny now,

745
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 3: and that's okay, and that's all right. Society changes and

746
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 3: people growing and and people demand certain things of comedy,

747
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 3: and some comedians meet demark, and some comedians don't. And

748
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 3: the thing is, you might not meet the marka you

749
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 3: still might have a fan base. Don't get me wrong,

750
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 3: but I think a lot of people get mad or

751
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 3: offending the upset when is the comedian that they like

752
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 3: and they love. They feel like, oh, the people attacking

753
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 3: him are just attacking him for the sake of attacking him.

754
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 3: That's not always a true statement.

755
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 2: And I also think that laugh to a gree thing

756
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 2: is so and I alluded to this at the end

757
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 2: of that stuff about Chappelle. But the part where the

758
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 2: reason he's getting a lot of a pass from people

759
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 2: and no reason that a lot of people are like,

760
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 2: you know, I agree with everything he said is because

761
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 2: he did have some truth and the idea that the

762
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 2: internet criticism of comedy and media has gotten so hyperbolic

763
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 2: and out of control that they are setting everybody up

764
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 2: to fail. And I do feel that, I really do,

765
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 2: because it is there's other comedians that have made much

766
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 2: less harmless joke, much more harmless jokes, you know what

767
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 2: I'm saying, that have also been lambasted, essentially for the

768
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 2: attempt of trying to be funny. And these motherfuckers do

769
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 2: turn on everybody, and they do assume the worst, and

770
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 2: they do attack rather than the fucking uh to talk

771
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 2: and reach out, and they do demagogue, and they chase people,

772
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 2: and they try to, like you know, they try to

773
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 2: cause controversy over and over again for these people for

774
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 2: the for their whole careers. And I'm be honest, it's

775
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 2: fucking annoying. And I think I'm not alone in saying that. No,

776
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 2: I'm not on Dave's side. I don't agree with that shit.

777
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 2: I don't I know what he thought he was doing,

778
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 2: which is I'm gonna pick at the sensitive subject of

779
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: LGBTQ people because that's the class that everyone agrees right

780
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 2: now is the one we need to be supporting. That's

781
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 2: that's his premise. It's not true. I mean, there's so

782
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 2: much pushback against LGBTQ people constantly. That's what made it

783
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 2: so laughable to me and so stupid. But yeah, I

784
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 2: get the point of there shouldn't be sacred cows on stage.

785
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 2: And at the same time, h y'all gotta let us breathe,

786
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 2: you gotta let us do our thing. And I want

787
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,240
Speaker 2: I think in his mind he felt like I'm punishing

788
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 2: y'all for not letting me do whatever the fuck I

789
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 2: want to do up here and just laugh And I'm like, yeah,

790
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 2: well I don't see it that way, but but yeah,

791
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 2: but like I said, there's some merit to that part

792
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 2: because a lot of people, I would think most people

793
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 2: would say the way that Internet treats comedy is not

794
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 2: how most of us treated.

795
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 3: No, it's extremely and it doesn't make fucking sense. It's

796
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 3: it's like, nothing's never funny, nothing can't be funny. Anything

797
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 3: you take, any come, anything you say is a fact,

798
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 3: and I'm going to take it, stripping up all this context,

799
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna say.

800
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:12,720
Speaker 2: That you.

801
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 3: Know that, you miit, that and that, and that is

802
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 3: a problem because that's not how comedy is, uh in

803
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 3: my belief, how comedy is supposed to be presented. And

804
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 3: also I know for me, when it comes to UH comedy,

805
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 3: like I said, there are a lot of jokes about

806
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 3: a variety of different topics that I think is the

807
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 3: funniest shit ever. I'm like, oh, that's funny because the

808
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 3: way it was presented, but partly because the punchline and

809
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 3: the thing is something else that I realized too once

810
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 3: I understood and for me personally, once I understood what

811
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 3: punchline means, I'm like, okay, I have a better understandable comedy.

812
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 3: Punchlin mean somebody's gonna get punched, and the people getting

813
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 3: punched dictates how you feel about it. You know a

814
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,760
Speaker 3: lot of people don't care about other be getting punched,

815
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 3: but you punched me, it becomes a problem. And that's

816
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 3: how most people respond. I'm I no it could you

817
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 3: could punch me too. Yeah, And I also know that

818
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 3: everybody draws their lines at different places. Everybody does. Everybody

819
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 3: has a line where they go, I don't think this

820
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 3: is funny, and it varies for person. My line might

821
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 3: be a little higher than other people's, which is fine.

822
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 3: But like I say, lot of some people have different topics.

823
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 3: Difer's subjects different things from their life and their personal

824
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 3: experience that they go, no matter what, this shit isn't funny,

825
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 3: and you have the right to believe that, and you

826
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 3: you have the right to feel that way. Mine is

827
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 3: just different.

828
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I think we talked about a long

829
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 2: time ago, but the comedian versus blogger I want that

830
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 2: not even been a title episode, but that was the

831
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 2: thing we talked about a long time ago. When this

832
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 2: wave of social media versus the comedian's stand up comedians

833
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 2: kind of started and it was like, I can't think

834
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 2: of two more narcissistic groups of people Bloggers who you know,

835
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 2: And at this point, I guess you could. You know,

836
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 2: bloggers have moved into like actual print media and stuff,

837
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 2: like people that used to be just bloggers now have

838
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 2: you know? They build their own spaces, right, So now

839
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 2: it's this thing of like media narcissists, social media narcissists

840
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 2: versus stand up narcissists, and both people want one hundred

841
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,959
Speaker 2: percent right to the narrative with no challenge right. Both

842
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 2: both groups want to make heroes and villains out of

843
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 2: the other. And both groups are so fucking myopic and

844
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 2: self centered they can't let other people feel differently than

845
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 2: them and just go, yeah, fuck it. I said what

846
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 2: I said, I articulated the best way. I don't get

847
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 2: to own the story. They're gonna feel how they feel,

848
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna leave it at that. And I would

849
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 2: have never thought it at the time, but I mean,

850
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 2: years and years and years later, Chappelle is the biggest

851
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 2: example of the comedian who got the bloggers stuck in

852
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 2: their head and now his stand up is for the bloggers,

853
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 2: and it's not really it doesn't have to be funny.

854
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 2: It's about shitting on them. And there are a lot

855
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,800
Speaker 2: of people that want to see that group of people

856
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 2: get shut on because they have been annoying and been

857
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 2: fucked up. There's times where those kind of folks have

858
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 2: been wrong and they piled on people and they you know,

859
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 2: they don't take shit back, and they don't apologize and

860
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 2: they don't forgive, and they don't move on. So yeah,

861
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 2: there's just two groups of people that won't move on.

862
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 2: And I think you know what I was talking about it,

863
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 2: I said, that's the most shack part about this is

864
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 2: he leaned into the fact that he knew they would

865
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 2: be talking about the stand up special for weeks saying

866
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 2: the same shit they said the last four specials. And

867
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 2: at this point, I'm like, you can just now you're

868
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 2: actually the one in control. You can move on. You

869
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 2: don't want to on stage still. A while ago, I

870
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 2: saw a tweet by doctor Teresa McMillan Katum related to

871
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 2: biracial children. The general tweet was that children are socialized

872
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 2: by their mothers, and so many things clicked in the

873
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 2: place for me. A white mother will have put in

874
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 2: a lot of effort to provide that sort of exposure

875
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 2: to their kids. And I think many of these women

876
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 2: don't see colors, so they don't think it's important. It

877
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 2: makes sense to me that a person like Sage presents

878
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 2: convenient detachment from being a black woman. There are many

879
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 2: social rules among groups, and black women have one of

880
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 2: the most sophisticated. In my humble opinion, she either never

881
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 2: took time to learn about those relationships or didn't hold

882
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 2: the proper respect for them. It wasn't her fault as

883
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 2: a child, but one Sage came an adult, she made

884
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 2: a choice. Yeah, a lot of people bring up that

885
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 2: white mom thing, and I definitely understand because whiteness in

886
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 2: general really does make this kind of false equivalence of

887
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 2: like color shouldn't matter, race shouldn't matter. So I don't

888
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 2: see the racism that's happening to you, come on, or

889
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 2: it's just a state of mind. So I and that's

890
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 2: no way to raise a fucking black child on this

891
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 2: in this not on this planet. And yet that kind

892
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,240
Speaker 2: of person that's listening to this show will never understand

893
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 2: why I feel that way. You know, they think I'm

894
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 2: they do a rod to be a racist, that's what

895
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 2: they're thinking, because they're totally not prepared to raise a

896
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 2: black child. And I hate to put it this way,

897
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 2: but I blame the daddies. I mean because at this point,

898
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 2: the black parents, because when it's a black woman that's

899
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 2: the wife. Kids ain't coming out like this, No they don't.

900
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 2: So I'm blaming a black parent in this case because

901
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 2: you need to make in no uncertain terms, you need

902
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 2: to make it known, Hey, our child is black, and

903
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 2: that's okay, right, This is not a dyss to you,

904
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 2: This isn't a diss to your family, but our child

905
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 2: is black. They need to be raised with that understanding.

906
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 2: They need to be raised with the bubble around them

907
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 2: that provides confidence and assuredness and value to the fact

908
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 2: that they are black, because they will be seen as that,

909
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 2: but most importantly that they will their anti blackness and

910
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 2: self hatred will also be a parent if we let

911
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 2: that faster. So we need to make sure our child

912
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 2: doesn't have a fucking hint of that. And it's hard.

913
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 2: I'm sure. I don't have a biracial child, but it's hard,

914
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 2: I'm sure because you can see from the results that

915
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 2: it's hard. Like a lot of these kids are coming

916
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 2: out and they're just dealing with a lot of fucking

917
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 2: issues from proximity to whiteness, from the I don't see

918
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 2: colorism shit, the I don't see color shit, to the

919
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 2: you know, to the like pick a side shit, Like

920
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 2: I get that it's difficult, and I think black men

921
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 2: in particular, and a lot of those cases just choose

922
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 2: to opt out of that stuff because they want to

923
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 2: believe that too. Like a lot of that mentality is

924
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 2: very like escape, Like I don't want to be concerned

925
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 2: about race, which is why I didn't get with a

926
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 2: black woman in the first place, because I'm not supposed

927
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 2: to have to deal with this shit. I'm over here

928
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 2: with this white woman. We just gonna do our best.

929
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,439
Speaker 2: We're a unit, we're isolated. We don't see the need

930
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 2: for community and all of that shit with it. Like

931
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 2: my community is the people in my immediate family count

932
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 2: as community, and I don't see any reason to socialize

933
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 2: my children into this black shit. And they just hope

934
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 2: that they can get by with that. But I think

935
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 2: that's how you end up with a sage still type

936
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 2: of kid, when you just when you don't make a

937
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 2: concerted effort, because in America, there's a concerted effort to

938
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 2: destroy every black child's pride. So if you don't make

939
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 2: a concerted effort to protect that child's pride, that's what

940
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,280
Speaker 2: the fuck you're gonna end up with. And it's really

941
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 2: embarrassing considering say Still once fount a lawsuit on saying

942
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 2: she was discriminated against for being black, or she wrote

943
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 2: like a piece about jobscrimination and claimed that it was

944
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 2: about her the fact she was a black woman, so

945
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 2: when it was convenience, she was black, right, not biracial

946
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 2: black right. And then the other thing is her fucking family.

947
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 2: The white side stopped fucking with her mom when their

948
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 2: mom got pregnant with her for five years, and she

949
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 2: came out of that somehow thinking it's black people's fault.

950
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,240
Speaker 2: To this day saying black people are the real racist.

951
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 2: There's something so twisted and fucked up and sick about that.

952
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 2: But yeah, man, this is what the fuck is happening

953
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 2: in people's head, and it's super sad.

954
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's sad, and it's irritating, and you know, and

955
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 3: also it's one of the things too A lot of

956
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 3: times speaking going back to what you say when you

957
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 3: do have that, say the black fathers stand up, he

958
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 3: ends up dealing with a lot of shit from the

959
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 3: white family. When he goes, no, no, we're not gonna

960
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 3: put up with this. My child is black, and y'all,

961
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:53,959
Speaker 3: y'all not gonna take it a strip it or beat

962
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 3: it out of my child, he becomes the motherfucking problem.

963
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 2: Because there's a learning curve to blackness anywhere. So you

964
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 2: know the trope of black. A white woman has an

965
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 2: interracial baby and the baby's hair is fucked up, and

966
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 2: people go like, you know, we know what that comes from.

967
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 2: Because for a lot of a lot of white women,

968
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 2: they had not considered a worldview where their hair would

969
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 2: be different than their daughter's hair because of literal genetics

970
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 2: in a way that where it wasn't white hair anymore, right,

971
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 2: It wasn't as simple as by some perk. Plus you

972
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,919
Speaker 2: can't wash it and go with the world already set

973
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 2: on rookie level for them. And when it comes to

974
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 2: the beauty stuff that the products and stuff is, you know,

975
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 2: white people pay less and everything's for them, and then

976
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 2: the black section is over here behind lock and key,

977
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 2: ensive right, and so you hadn't thought about it you

978
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 2: haven't been raised around black people and been doing their hair.

979
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 2: You know, you weren't socialized that way, because it's not

980
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 2: like every black woman is born and she just know

981
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 2: how to do hair. No, you you have your own hair,

982
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 2: You have your sisters, your moms and all the others.

983
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 2: It's a socialization thing. And if you were going to

984
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 2: have a black child, you would think that, oh man,

985
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 2: at some point I need to learn this, Like at

986
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 2: some point, like before my baby gets here or before

987
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 2: it's time to get her hair done, I need to

988
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 2: start thinking about this. And so you see black people,

989
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 2: you know, doing that shaking their hand, like look at

990
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 2: these babies' hair, and it's but it's really a commentary

991
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 2: on something much deeper than that superficial like your hair

992
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 2: looks bad. It's it's if the hair isn't right, I know,

993
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 2: you're not doing the rest, you know, and it's you know,

994
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 2: and this is there are white people who are quote

995
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 2: unquote good white people, and good to them is just

996
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 2: I'm trying to be fair. But they don't understand what's

997
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 2: the foot hair because they don't read shit, they don't

998
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 2: look at shit, they don't watch shit. Everything is just

999
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 2: like I don't see color. I just free to be

1000
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 2: being fair. I don't think I'm being racist. I didn't

1001
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 2: call nobody in word today. And that kind of person

1002
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 2: can be a quote unquote good person, but they might

1003
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 2: not be ready to raise a fucking black child or

1004
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 2: be in a relationship with a black person, you know.

1005
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 2: And I would imagine that the cultural shorthand doesn't necessarily

1006
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 2: exist as much as like when we like if a

1007
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 2: black person was dating an Asian person. There's a lot

1008
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 2: of cultural shorthand that you don't have to speak about,

1009
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 2: not saying you don't learn about each other's culture, but

1010
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 2: there's certain shit. But I'm like, oh, you know this feeling.

1011
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 2: So we might not see eye out on everything, but

1012
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 2: you know some of it with it from life. White

1013
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,240
Speaker 2: people don't necessarily know some of it from life. And

1014
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 2: what white women may experience in sexism doesn't necessarily translate

1015
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 2: always over to racism because you can participate in racism

1016
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 2: the same way that black men may understand some things

1017
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 2: about racism and then quite often understand things about sexism

1018
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 2: or misogyny or or you know, homophobia, stuff like that,

1019
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 2: because like what that was in my experience, but I

1020
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 2: do understand when someone says something racist happened to him.

1021
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 2: And if you don't want to do that work, if

1022
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 2: you don't want to pick up that book, if you

1023
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 2: don't want to make listen to those conversations, you just

1024
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,800
Speaker 2: get stuck. Now, imagine you get stuck. But there's a

1025
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 2: fucking child's life in the balance. Now you're raising safe still.

1026
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 2: You know, we see it having all the time. You know.

1027
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 2: Now you got a nigg on TV talking about here

1028
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 2: Italian when we all see he fucking dark as you know,

1029
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 2: like when we all see that this motherfucker is clearly black.

1030
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 2: It's that kind of shit where you're just like, oh,

1031
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:44,919
Speaker 2: that's sad, you know what I mean? All Right, let's

1032
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 2: see Ramsey Djinger says, Rob, thank you for giving me

1033
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 2: another opinion regarding the final Netflix special feature and Dave

1034
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 2: Chapelle or watch Chappelle's first Netflix special and have not

1035
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 2: watched the other three. I cannot believe he did not

1036
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 2: reach out to black trans women ts Maddison, Laverne Cox

1037
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 2: or Janet Mark and have a conversation safe still, canus

1038
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 2: songs are exhausted? Yeah, here's the thing though, it's Dave Chappelle,

1039
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 2: and I think this is the part that can't really

1040
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 2: be accounted for. Dave Chappelle is so he's so big.

1041
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 2: People that claim to be like against the ship that

1042
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 2: he said will not be against it because he said it.

1043
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying. So I'm not really guaranteed

1044
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 2: that any person is gonna truly until this special. Maybe

1045
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 2: maybe after this one, but before this, I'm not sure

1046
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 2: that every that if he would have reached out to

1047
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:39,720
Speaker 2: all these people that would be like, let me educate

1048
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 2: your brother, let me talk, it might have been people

1049
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 2: being like, oh my god, it's Stave Chapelle, like you

1050
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 2: see it all the time, man like people that claim

1051
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 2: to have completely different like I saw on Twitter. I

1052
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 2: think Hannah Gasby said because Netflix, they tried to like

1053
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 2: throw her in. They're like, wow, how could we be humbophobe?

1054
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 2: We had Hannah gas We gave her a special, and

1055
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 2: she was like, leave me the fuck out of this

1056
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 2: because one i'm'n get harrassed, and I didn't like his special,

1057
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 2: and I don't want to give him cover for his

1058
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 2: fucked up jokes. I think I think his jokes make

1059
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:14,280
Speaker 2: the world worse.

1060
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, they had to come out because they got thrown

1061
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 3: up any of the bus.

1062
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then Michelle Woolf, who was a lot of

1063
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 2: people's like liberal progressive comedian darling for a long time,

1064
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 2: but she's been kicking it with Dave Chappelle at his

1065
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 2: you know, his outdoor shows and stuff he's been doing

1066
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 2: in the coronavirus, so she's kind of compromised. You know,

1067
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 2: she's on the payroll now. But she was talking shit

1068
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 2: to Hannah gasby not addressing any of Hannah's actual concerns

1069
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 2: but being like, it's called comedy, take a joke, and

1070
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, right, because it's Dave Chappelle. He bigger than everything.

1071
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 2: You got people that claim it. And I think, to

1072
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 2: a certain extent, I'm thankful for moments like this because

1073
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 2: it really lets you know how full of shit people are.

1074
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 2: People are okay with stuff until they got to give

1075
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 2: something up, or until it comes down to like like

1076
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 2: I need to take a stance against us, and then

1077
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 2: it's like I don't know, and I don't want to

1078
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 2: have to give up every you know, I don't want

1079
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 2: to have to say something about Dave Japelle and then

1080
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 2: maybe I'll see him or whatever. And I and I

1081
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 2: and I keep bringing us up on the show. But

1082
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 2: why the fuck do why the fuck do the people

1083
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 2: that feel the way we do have to be the

1084
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 2: ones that always back down and coexists. Because it's not

1085
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 2: like he got up there and said, I give a

1086
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 2: fuck about everybody's opinion and I want you all to

1087
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 2: like me. He got up there and said, suck my

1088
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 2: dig if you don't like this. But but if I'm

1089
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 2: on the other side one like I thought what he

1090
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 2: did was really fucked up, I gotta be nice. I

1091
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,439
Speaker 2: gotta be the one like, oh, he's you know, he's

1092
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 2: trying his best, and who knows what happened to him. Nah,

1093
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 2: fuck that, man, I thought you did something fucked up.

1094
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 2: You know. Don't mean I'm gonna do something to you,

1095
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 2: I'll want to fight you or what. It just I

1096
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 2: didn't like it. I don't have to like what you did.

1097
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 3: Right, What about though?

1098
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 2: People understand anyway? And also I don't even know if

1099
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 2: those women would want to do the labor of fucking

1100
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 2: dealing with this dude. And also I think Dave is

1101
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 2: such a slighter hand artist. He would basically listen to

1102
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 2: them say that he empathizes with them, respects them, and

1103
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 2: he's not making fun of them, and then he go

1104
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 2: make those same jokes and be like, it's not really

1105
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 2: about black chairs women, it's about whiteness. Transniess and whiteness

1106
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 2: are the same thing. To me, really dark Knight says,

1107
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 2: while you were reading safe Still comments, it occurred to

1108
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 2: me that she doesn't see herself as a black woman,

1109
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 2: and a quote in every quote she put out that

1110
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 2: she was biracial or not black. Yes, she when they

1111
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 2: had black Girls Rock, she put she went and wore

1112
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 2: a shirt that said mixed Chicks Rock, right, Why would

1113
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 2: you need to do that. I think she's trying to

1114
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 2: run away from blackness as fasts she can, much like

1115
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 2: her white relatives. I'm sure that her white friends talk

1116
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 2: the most shit about her when she's not around. Ol Peace.

1117
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 2: I think about shit like that a lot, Like as

1118
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 2: soon as she laid the table, they be like, girl,

1119
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 2: I don't know why she thinks she want.

1120
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 3: To us right, she will never be accepted.

1121
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 2: Mature young lady says, I haven't watched the chappelle specially

1122
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 2: and likely won't. I started the first one that never

1123
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 2: finished it. There's plenty of things to make jokes about it.

1124
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 2: You don't have to make the trans community of Punchline.

1125
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 2: I work with trans individuals at work, and while I

1126
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 2: may not understand, I'm always gonna be respectful. I aim

1127
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 2: to be more thank I am to be more than respectful.

1128
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 2: I want to be an ally. I'm always open to

1129
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 2: being educated about things I don't know about. Yeah, I

1130
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 2: think that's the other thing, Like it's hard for people

1131
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 2: to imagine somebody just going I just think it's disrespectful

1132
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 2: to a point that it's not funny to me.

1133
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and everybody has that topic, whatever that topic is.

1134
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think you're gonna fucking like go out

1135
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 2: and start a march or a rally. But I just

1136
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 2: think this shit is just disrespectful to for no reason.

1137
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 2: You know, patrise O'Neill died and I think it really

1138
01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 2: enshrined him. And it's like area where people go back

1139
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 2: and finally reminisce of like he was everybody's favorite, and

1140
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, when he was alive, it was a

1141
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 2: reason he wasn't a crossover success. It's because he made

1142
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 2: his he made his bed with I'm gonna be pissing

1143
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 2: a lot of people off, and a lot of those

1144
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 2: people aren't gonna fuck with me on a consistent basis,

1145
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 2: and so I'm not gonna blow up like these other comedians,

1146
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 2: did you know? Trey says, Hey, Roydan, and Karen first

1147
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 2: and foremost, thank y'all forgiving your thighs on Chappelle's show.

1148
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 2: And I agree it's sadden me deeply. I don't understand

1149
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 2: how Chappelle doesn't understand that respecting the next person's humanity

1150
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 2: shouldn't be that hard of a thing to do. I

1151
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 2: don't think he's ever really done that, And I think

1152
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 2: there was a peace I was reading I want to

1153
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 2: say in The Atlantic. I shared it on my Facebook.

1154
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,439
Speaker 2: It's probably the best take on this that I've seen,

1155
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 2: because a lot of the other takes are really personalized

1156
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 2: in a way that it's that new writing style that

1157
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 2: I'm not a fan of. I don't want to call

1158
01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 2: it millennial writing style, so trying to think of another

1159
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 2: way to phrase it, because I don't think it's a

1160
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 2: millennial thing. But writing has changed for a large part

1161
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 2: when people start having these parasocial relationships with celebrities. Writing

1162
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 2: has changed into how did this personally make me feel?

1163
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 2: In a way that's not really reporting news anymore?

1164
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 3: Ain't did I mean we done got out of the

1165
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 3: news once you get to that point.

1166
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's a very common way of writing. That's

1167
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 2: very much. You know, it's I vouched for days Chapelle

1168
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 2: for years, and I'm like, I don't give a fuck, right,

1169
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, that's not what this is.

1170
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 2: You what you personally did, Like you telling me I

1171
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 2: finally had enough doesn't mean shit to me, you know

1172
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. It's just more like, what is the

1173
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 2: context of this. I'm not saying you have to take

1174
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 2: yourself completely out of it. We're human, right, But I'm

1175
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 2: not reading your journal. I want to know what your

1176
01:02:56,400 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 2: thoughts are about this in society, not like and I

1177
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 2: started crying. I was literally shaky, and I'm like, oh man,

1178
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 2: come on, what the fuck? Tell me the context of

1179
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 2: why the joke don't work? Tell me that, because that's

1180
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 2: the thing that I think people can appeal to. But

1181
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 2: maybe now I'm the one in the now because so

1182
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 2: many people have parasocial relationships, that may be what's most

1183
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 2: relatable to people. It's like, how did it make me feel?

1184
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 2: I cried because you.

1185
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 3: Cried because of social media. People underestimate the power of

1186
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 3: social media and how people's interaction. You know, social media

1187
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 3: has rolled into these other platforms that have literally impacted

1188
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 3: these other platforms, possibly forever.

1189
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 2: And it's like, I'm not reading this because I'm your friend, right,

1190
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 2: you got to write this in the New York Times.

1191
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 2: Don't just write about it, you know what I'm saying.

1192
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 2: Like I said, don't you don't have to divorce everything

1193
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 2: for yourself. But some of the shit, y'all, it's like

1194
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna name no names, but just some of

1195
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 2: the shit, I just be like, no, I send a

1196
01:03:57,880 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 2: screenshot just to one of my friends, like look at

1197
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 2: this it man, Yeah, because that that style of writing

1198
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 2: has become very prevalent, and that thing is just like

1199
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 2: the blog generation, Like the blog became people's journal, and

1200
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 2: the journal made you a star, and so now you

1201
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 2: think it's about you when I'm like, you wrote about

1202
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 2: why the Chapale special didn't work. I don't want to

1203
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 2: hear about why just why it didn't why it hurt

1204
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 2: your feelings. I want to hear about why it's fucked up.

1205
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 3: Right, And that's about as bad as you joke about this.

1206
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 3: When you be like, ooh, let me click on this

1207
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 3: fried chicken recipe did I have a fucking eight paragraph

1208
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 3: about their day and what they did and how they

1209
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 3: named the chicken and how they you know, went to

1210
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 3: school with the chicken. And you were like, well, bitch,

1211
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 3: get to the recipe. So I clicked for the recipe.

1212
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 2: So I thought, I want to say it was Atlantic

1213
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 2: that I read this article ed, and I want to

1214
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 2: say that was probably the best. That was probably the

1215
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 2: best one that I read. And I read a few

1216
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:56,959
Speaker 2: man because this is one of those things I really

1217
01:04:57,040 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 2: was thinking about, uh, you know, comedy and culture. Yes,

1218
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 2: the Atlantic is called Dave Chappelle's Roshack Test, and I

1219
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 2: thought it was the most fair discussion because you know,

1220
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 2: I do understand and acknowledge what he's attempting to do.

1221
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 2: I just don't think he was able to do it

1222
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 2: for me, and I don't think he was able to

1223
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 2: do it for a lot of people. I don't think

1224
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 2: I'm alone in that. I think there's a lot of

1225
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 2: people that, you know, whatever. But one of the things

1226
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:27,959
Speaker 2: she brought up, and I think this is important because

1227
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 2: I've brought it up several times in the past, people

1228
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 2: started putting Dave in a box of progressive woke dude

1229
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 2: that he never was, never wanted to be, never tried

1230
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 2: to be, never earned. And once you start doing that,

1231
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 2: you stop looking at the whole picture. So when he's

1232
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 2: making these jokes about you know, women and gay people

1233
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 2: and and sex workers and all this other shit, you're

1234
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 2: just like, well, I won't count that skit. Oh that joke,

1235
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 2: I mean the one that he made about the pancakes, nigga,

1236
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 2: that's the one with the cops. But then when you're like, well,

1237
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 2: he also that same special was making jokes about you know,

1238
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 2: sliding twenties up people, pussy holes and just very juvenile

1239
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 2: type of shit. And I think people, especially when he

1240
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 2: went away on something that people thought was very principal,

1241
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 2: it moved him into like activist comedian in their mind,

1242
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 2: and he came back as no, I'm Dave Chapelle from nineteen,

1243
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 2: from two thousand and one or whatever the fuck. I

1244
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 2: haven't changed. Actually, if anything, I'm mad that y'all changed.

1245
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 2: And the more you tell me to change, the more

1246
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get mad about it. And I think so

1247
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 2: that's why I would say I wouldn't even turn what

1248
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 2: I said as what he did is disappointing more so

1249
01:06:55,560 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 2: than just like it's sad. It's like, damn, he got stuff,

1250
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like, but yeah, so I

1251
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 2: don't I don't think he's gonna have a conversation. I

1252
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 2: don't think he wants to earn to learn. I don't

1253
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 2: think he's misunderstood. I think no, this is the way

1254
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 2: he stands.

1255
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 3: No, he's not required to and I'm also, as an

1256
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 3: individual person, not required to give a damn.

1257
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 2: Does Chapelle not know that there was a ton of black, gay,

1258
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 2: queer trans beyond people that were out in these motherfucker

1259
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 2: streets this past year protested cops beating Nikiller sis at

1260
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 2: black man. I don't think he cares. Dave low key

1261
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 2: or how key sounds more like a white comic wanted

1262
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 2: to bitch and complain about nonsysical things than someone holding

1263
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 2: some pro black status, as Dave claimed he was doing.

1264
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 2: And even more sad, there was no there was so

1265
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 2: much more interesting material Day could have touched off, but

1266
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 2: didn't even bother. H Yeah, when he did a forty six,

1267
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 2: it was obvious he only talked about black men and

1268
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 2: that was right like after Breonna Taylor. He don't care.

1269
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:57,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and my opinion too, particularly with David like you said,

1270
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 3: with the way he left and all these things too.

1271
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 3: People can't do it consciously and unconsciously, uh, project and

1272
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 3: so a lot of this you should care about this, No,

1273
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 3: you're projecting on what you the things that you think

1274
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 3: he cares about. And he's telling you he does it

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01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 3: like if you read between the lines.

1276
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:21,680
Speaker 2: He's telling you between the lines. You haven't even watched it.

1277
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 2: It's not between the lines anymore. It's in your face.

1278
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 2: I don't care.

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01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, And even with that, people are going, but but

1280
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:30,759
Speaker 3: but well, it's like, no, no, no, we're agreeing.

1281
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 2: I'm saying you're saying between the lines. I'm saying it's

1282
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 2: gotten much bolder than you haven't watched any of these.

1283
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:41,639
Speaker 2: It's got it's progressively gotten so bold you can't even say, like, well,

1284
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 2: if you pay.

1285
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 3: Attention, you can't run in your face like I.

1286
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:46,599
Speaker 2: Don't give a fuck. The whole point of my specialist,

1287
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:49,639
Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck. That's a special Yeah, that's

1288
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:53,639
Speaker 2: no leeway. I'm sorry, Rod and Roder, Karen, I'm left all.

1289
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 2: All I'm left with it applies to Chapelle is basically

1290
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 2: what Kad Furry said on the read. Some of these

1291
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 2: niggas just want to be white. Thanks again, Karen. Yeah,

1292
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 2: I agree, he said also I forgot that also. I mean,

1293
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 2: I think he has been appealing to and talking to

1294
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 2: white people in a lot of ways for a while now,

1295
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:16,640
Speaker 2: and I think we just found a lot of what

1296
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 2: he had to say to be very relatable, and I

1297
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 2: think a lot of us felt like he was speaking

1298
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 2: for us in some instances, even when we were overlooking

1299
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 2: areas there it's like, well, not that one, that's kind

1300
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:29,719
Speaker 2: of but it was like for other shit, we'd be like, yes,

1301
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 2: that's how people feel, that's how it be. This is

1302
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 2: a black experience. But I think, you know, Dave was,

1303
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:37,680
Speaker 2: in order to get to the money, Dave had to

1304
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 2: be and always has kind of been trying to get

1305
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 2: white people to laugh. They got the money, they got

1306
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 2: the power. That's how you get on. And if they

1307
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 2: not laughing, ain't shit fit to move. So, you know,

1308
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:51,599
Speaker 2: you make an insular black show, you limit yourself and

1309
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 2: you never become the guy who sold the most comedy

1310
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 2: DVDs of a show in history unless white people are

1311
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 2: laughing at that shit too. Now, he he hit some

1312
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 2: type of conscious of crisis or some shit and crisis

1313
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 2: of conscious and ended up feeling bad about white people listening.

1314
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 2: But they was listening, they was watching. Uh. Trey says,

1315
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:13,680
Speaker 2: I also forgot to add rod. I started South Laate

1316
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:15,720
Speaker 2: podcast yesterday and to drive home from work and br

1317
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 2: this is a lot. I'm only up to episode four

1318
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 2: and am already mad as hell. But but it compelled

1319
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 2: to keep this. I told y'all it's infuriating. Thanks for recommendation.

1320
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:29,639
Speaker 2: Hopefully it's some more Texas the black Outists listeners can

1321
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 2: comment on that town too, because I wanted more info

1322
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 2: on this down. Uh yeah, it's a tough listen. I

1323
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:36,959
Speaker 2: don't care. You haven't listened.

1324
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 3: Heavy It's on my list, but no, I haven't listened.

1325
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 2: It's well done, great great journalism, but whoa even He says,

1326
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 2: I watched it special, not gonna lie. There were parts

1327
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:49,320
Speaker 2: I giggle, but all the LGBTQ stuff, particularly the trans jumps,

1328
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:51,559
Speaker 2: came off very much to me like I have a

1329
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:54,640
Speaker 2: black friend, therefore I'm not transphobic. It made me uncomfortable

1330
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 2: and I had a lot to process once it was over. Rain.

1331
01:10:57,479 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 2: Don't nobody want to do that at the fucking stand

1332
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 2: up special? That's why when people go it's jokes. Take

1333
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 2: the jokes on like, but y'all aren't taking the jokes.

1334
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:08,800
Speaker 2: Y'all out here arguing too. It came to me that

1335
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 2: Dave is a hotel. He will always put the oppression

1336
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 2: of black man over any other press group, especially women

1337
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 2: and black people in the LGBTQ community. And he's angry

1338
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:18,759
Speaker 2: because he was called out on the shit. So instead

1339
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 2: of just backing off, he doubled down because I believe

1340
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:24,680
Speaker 2: his game is if you cancel me, you're racist. I

1341
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 2: believe he wants Netflix to pull a special so he

1342
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 2: could say, see, I told you I think so too,

1343
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 2: and they won't. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know what will

1344
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 2: happen with that special, but I think that's what he

1345
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 2: would like. Ultimately. I think he wanted to make the

1346
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 2: most offensive special he could make, and I think that

1347
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 2: he's been building towards that, and I think his ultimate

1348
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 2: thesis is you can't say what I'm saying or they'll

1349
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 2: come and get you. And nothing's happening to him. If

1350
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:55,520
Speaker 2: anything is happening to the people talking bad about him,

1351
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:57,680
Speaker 2: it would be of no consequence to him because he

1352
01:11:57,720 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 2: gets paid either way, and then he could use it

1353
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 2: for more material. Yeah, he would love to. I think

1354
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 2: say gay people did this to me. And that's why

1355
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 2: I can't stop talking about him, because I don't think

1356
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 2: he's done the poets. Do you think Dave Chapelle will

1357
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 2: make LGBTQ jokes again? Yes and soon, Yes, but a

1358
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 2: long time from now. No, he's not done. No, he's

1359
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 2: done doing these jokes.

1360
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:21,599
Speaker 3: O can Yes and soon?

1361
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 2: Seventy seven percent say yes and soon, which I'm a

1362
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 2: part of that. I don't think he can resist. And yes,

1363
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 2: but a long time from now seventeen percent and six

1364
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 2: percent says no, he's done telling these jokes, which that's

1365
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:38,679
Speaker 2: wish for thinking. I think. And I got some property

1366
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 2: I like to sell. Y'all got a bridge to the

1367
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 2: ocean from Wyoming, if y'all love, if y'all got the money,

1368
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 2: we got some comments, Static says, I feel like he'll

1369
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 2: do more of those jokes when he needs to promote

1370
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 2: something to capitalize on the controversy. Kim says, why not.

1371
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 2: The public is practically tripping over each other letting us

1372
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 2: know he's a and that's what they do. He honestly

1373
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 2: believes what he says. It has a gaggle of people

1374
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:06,680
Speaker 2: who think he's a genius. I'm not people. I'm a

1375
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:10,680
Speaker 2: proud parent of a trans man capa. Donna said, Chappelle

1376
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 2: probably won't touch on the trans jokes for a while,

1377
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:15,559
Speaker 2: mostly because of the dead horse at this point. Maybe

1378
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 2: he'll get back to I don't know, being actually funny.

1379
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 2: I only laughed at about half the bits of the

1380
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 2: last special. It's seeing crange and meandering. Yet you know

1381
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:27,360
Speaker 2: what it is. And I'm sure y'all heard this on

1382
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 2: the podcast when I've done it before, but it was

1383
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:32,600
Speaker 2: when you were talking to people that aren't in the

1384
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 2: room because you're so upset by something somebody said or did,

1385
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:39,680
Speaker 2: and nobody else is really privy to it. You know.

1386
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 3: Now.

1387
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 2: The difference is I will typically come on the show

1388
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 2: and be like, this is what my experience is, and

1389
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:45,720
Speaker 2: this is what was said to me, or this is

1390
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 2: what I saw. But what David's kind of oppositely, it

1391
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 2: was like, I'm not gonna tell y'all because I'm not

1392
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 2: acknowledging that Twitter is really happening and I'm on it

1393
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:57,719
Speaker 2: or i'm seeing it, So I'm gonna pretend I'm above

1394
01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 2: that shit. But I'm only talking to them right. I'm

1395
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:01,639
Speaker 2: mad at them.

1396
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 3: The people in the room actually don't even matter.

1397
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, like oh Man, Blue Way Robber says, Uh, since

1398
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 2: Save J. Steele hates black men, she should dye her

1399
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:15,599
Speaker 2: hair blind and hook up with our fans of Rivera.

1400
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 2: We know what he likes. And then in parentheses, hope

1401
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 2: you play the clip. Uh, now which clip would that be?

1402
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:35,520
Speaker 2: Are you talking about me some hot white.

1403
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 4: Now I'm gonna say listen, I have been known to

1404
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:48,560
Speaker 4: some white girls in my lifetime. Now I have spent.

1405
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:52,320
Speaker 3: My life on some GMC and every.

1406
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 2: Time you see me in the club, just who I

1407
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 2: walk out with? Blonde waite ship?

1408
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:07,760
Speaker 3: Why did the hype man is hilarious?

1409
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 2: Why did this come out? And this motherfucker literally disappeared?

1410
01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:14,720
Speaker 2: We have not heard anything from this man. He was

1411
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:17,599
Speaker 2: on some side of promotional tour and was talking big ship.

1412
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:21,920
Speaker 2: This fucking clip came out. He smoked pelat it. Come on.

1413
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:26,479
Speaker 3: All you see him is on the funniest American home videos.

1414
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:27,639
Speaker 3: He just keep it right there.

1415
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:36,639
Speaker 2: Yeah American funniest home videos. But yeah, V says Chappelle

1416
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 2: definitely shown in the past that he could drop something

1417
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:41,160
Speaker 2: when he's done with it. Problem is, I don't know

1418
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 2: if he's truly done with it yet, like y'all have

1419
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 2: been saying, this was a response to Twitter, and Twitter

1420
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 2: obviously stuck in his head. Yeah, that's the thing for me.

1421
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:50,640
Speaker 2: I don't think it's impossible for him to move on.

1422
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 2: I just think it's you know, the toys got him

1423
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:56,680
Speaker 2: the same way for getting the rest of us.

1424
01:15:57,400 --> 01:16:00,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, easy to get good to get a swaph.

1425
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 3: I mean swamped in that and drowning in that, and

1426
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 3: everything is a fight and everything is argument. It's simple,

1427
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 3: like to get into it. It's hard once you pull

1428
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 3: yourself out, and once you get out, you get to

1429
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:12,640
Speaker 3: stay out, which is very hard to do because it's addictive.

1430
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:15,679
Speaker 2: And he's given a lot of people material to keep

1431
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:19,160
Speaker 2: it going. Cause it doesn't like I'm sorry, I don't

1432
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 2: give a fuck. How big a fan of his you are,

1433
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 2: it doesn't help his argument that this nigga did a

1434
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 2: whole like twenty minute not many jokes, stand up thing

1435
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 2: being like, I'm a victim of a bad contract with

1436
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 2: Comedy Central and it's hurting my feelings and I want this,

1437
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:40,639
Speaker 2: that and the other and until I get it black,

1438
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 2: you know, basically, as you're a fan, stopped listening to

1439
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 2: these things. That was a very much like I understand

1440
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 2: victimhood when it's me because this is such a champagne problem.

1441
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 2: He's rich as fuck, no like whether he gets that

1442
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:58,080
Speaker 2: contract money. That was a pride thing and he is

1443
01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 2: Dave Chappelle, so he can do it, you know. But

1444
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:03,840
Speaker 2: when other people make that appeal to him, he says,

1445
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:07,559
Speaker 2: suck my dick. Fuck you take these jokes, bitch, you

1446
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:11,800
Speaker 2: know what I mean. So that's it's interesting how he's

1447
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:15,759
Speaker 2: and people be having his back in those discussions because

1448
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 2: he leans on blackness and he leans and it's like

1449
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:21,120
Speaker 2: looking at his brother being so vulnerable. But you know,

1450
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 2: it's we're living at that intersection. Black man can be

1451
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 2: victims and bullies sometimes in the same sentence. Man, and

1452
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 2: nobody wants to acknowledge that, or else you must hate

1453
01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 2: all black men for saying the fucking obvious. Right, I'm

1454
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 2: just saying, voted. I said, I voted. He will talk

1455
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 2: about it again. Some of y'all have more faith than

1456
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:39,800
Speaker 2: I do. Yeah, and Joe said he won't do a

1457
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 2: true routine, but he'll have some one lines here and

1458
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 2: there ad lib to give people a quick laugh. Yeah,

1459
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 2: I don't think it's possible for him to because he's

1460
01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 2: gonna start touring, he's going out with Joe Rogan soon.

1461
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 2: I don't think it's possible for him to do those

1462
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 2: shows and not bring this up.

1463
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:55,559
Speaker 3: That's why the people are gonna come. When they go,

1464
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:58,479
Speaker 3: they come in for that shit. They tell more of this.

1465
01:17:58,479 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 3: This is why I came.

1466
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:04,559
Speaker 2: Let's see, we had the poll on the Spotify, where

1467
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 2: do you think he'll make LGBT jokes again? Yes and

1468
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:11,599
Speaker 2: soon seventy seven percent even Hia, yes, but a long

1469
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:14,080
Speaker 2: time from now eighteen percent and know he's done with

1470
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:19,640
Speaker 2: those jokes still five percent, so that held steady. The

1471
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 2: comment I left was the mask goes over your nose too,

1472
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 2: And people left some comments back, Kay said, Karen says, hell,

1473
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 2: yeah it does. Jay says yes, b k In I guess,

1474
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:37,799
Speaker 2: Brooklyn eight six nine says absolutely, but I live in Texas,

1475
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 2: so most okay, most of these people don't care about

1476
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:47,719
Speaker 2: saving lives, including theirs. Damn Wright says for DoD, Temor

1477
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 2: says facts, Latia says absolutely, Rakesha says, hell yeah it does.

1478
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 2: MS Barr says, thank you, sir for the PSA. Toya

1479
01:18:57,479 --> 01:19:01,760
Speaker 2: says it's a toy he says, been on that for

1480
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 2: a few years now, and JB says, what, So I

1481
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:08,800
Speaker 2: guess JB. I got shocked to learn.

1482
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 3: Yes, and I'll duck side. I made my comment just

1483
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 3: to see if it was posting that shit posted. I

1484
01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 3: was like, oh, this shit posted. I can leave a.

1485
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 2: Comment, and I can choose to pen people's comments, although

1486
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 2: I don't know what that does. I don't know if

1487
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 2: other people can see the comments people made after them

1488
01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 2: or what. Okay, let's see twenty four to twenty nine.

1489
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:31,719
Speaker 2: John Gruden was in racial chatroom showing feet pebe. He says,

1490
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 2: somebody needs to hack the NFL emails like Sonny because

1491
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 2: I bet John Gruden's emails are tame compared to what's

1492
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 2: out there in the cloud the NFL with there chau

1493
01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 2: Van him and probably Dan Snyder, so that dirt doesn't

1494
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 2: get exposed. Yeah, they're in a standoff because I want

1495
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 2: to say, if they do that, there's a there's an

1496
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 2: expectation that someone like Dan Snyder has dirt on everybody else,

1497
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:00,800
Speaker 2: So you know what I'm say saying, So it doesn't

1498
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 2: work the same because what if he says, oh, y'all

1499
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:06,440
Speaker 2: getting rid of me? Well, what about that shit, y'all said,

1500
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:10,720
Speaker 2: let's say we had the Paul Well John Gruden work

1501
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 2: in the NFL again, Yes and soon, Yes, but a

1502
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:19,040
Speaker 2: long time from now or never? Never? Yeah, I don't.

1503
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:21,000
Speaker 3: Nobody want to put up with this emails my nigga.

1504
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:23,639
Speaker 2: I never say never, but I'm saying never, y'all.

1505
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:26,879
Speaker 3: From John gruenyot gmail dot com.

1506
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 2: No, yeah, I mean even with those people that had

1507
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 2: his back, I gotta say never, who want.

1508
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 3: To work with you? Like? What team? Because any team

1509
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 3: to pick him up would have to deal with it.

1510
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 3: Any players would have to deal with it. The media

1511
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 3: would constantly ask you, how do you feel about? Nobody

1512
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:49,800
Speaker 3: wants to deal with that type of a circus, And

1513
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 3: for coach, you got to fuck up really bad for

1514
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 3: them not to deal with your circus. It's a white man.

1515
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yes, but a long time from now. Forty

1516
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:04,720
Speaker 2: eight percent, which oh oh, that's such a that is

1517
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 2: That is a damning number to me if I'm the NFL,

1518
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 2: that's a lot of people going, yeah, y'all definitely gonna

1519
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:15,559
Speaker 2: put him back in one day, and it's not. And

1520
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 2: it's still about the same percentage. On the other pole,

1521
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 2: the Spotify pole, forty four percent, So that's a lot

1522
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 2: of people. Yes and soon twenty six percent. That's even mold,

1523
01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:30,720
Speaker 2: faith less faith in the NFL. Soon, what y'all could

1524
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:34,599
Speaker 2: they give him? And then lastly, of course it's never

1525
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 2: thirty six percent on Spotify say never and twenty six

1526
01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:42,519
Speaker 2: percent on our website say never comments, Joe says what

1527
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 2: constitutes a long time from now? Guessing that he'll be

1528
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:48,000
Speaker 2: gone for a season or two. Then he'll he'll either

1529
01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:50,639
Speaker 2: do some analysis for one of the lesser sports channels,

1530
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 2: to do some consulting for a team. Did you know

1531
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:56,280
Speaker 2: that CBS has a sports channel? John Gruden will will soon.

1532
01:21:56,760 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 2: He'll know all the channels soon enough. I ain't all,

1533
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:03,280
Speaker 2: Lakida says attention. I prefaced this with saying I don't

1534
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:05,599
Speaker 2: watch sports. The little bit I know about sports comes

1535
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 2: from the Dynamic Trio Karen Rod and justin. My answer

1536
01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:11,559
Speaker 2: to the poll is yes and soon. Because he's a rich,

1537
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 2: well connected white man, they always look out for each other.

1538
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:16,920
Speaker 2: Look at how people who spoke on it were very

1539
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:19,400
Speaker 2: reluctant to say they bad about this obvious piece of shit.

1540
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:22,559
Speaker 2: He's well connected. I think he'll work for the NFL

1541
01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:26,439
Speaker 2: again if he wants just not in public capacity. Well,

1542
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:31,560
Speaker 2: I mean, stranger things have happened, but man, i'd be

1543
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 2: lying up I told you I would be. I would

1544
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 2: be shocked, honestly, especially if it was soon, like say,

1545
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:40,760
Speaker 2: within the next year or two. I would honestly be

1546
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:43,400
Speaker 2: shocked because I just feel like this is one of

1547
01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:47,680
Speaker 2: those times, these rare times when a white dude that

1548
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:50,040
Speaker 2: is as complicit as any other white dude becomes a

1549
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 2: sacrificial lamb because they think they can make it go away.

1550
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:54,920
Speaker 3: Mm hm. They'll throw you out to the wools. They

1551
01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 3: if they ain't got to put up with it no more.

1552
01:22:57,240 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 3: And the thing is, you stay at the least, ain't

1553
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 3: got to talk about it, because the long you stay here,

1554
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:04,920
Speaker 3: guess what that's spot like gonna get bigger and bright,

1555
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 3: and before you know it, they're gonna start shining in it,

1556
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:10,320
Speaker 3: shining it, shining it in other directions. Now, I got

1557
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 3: to deal with the bullshit.

1558
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:13,640
Speaker 2: You got to go because there is a precedent for this.

1559
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:17,600
Speaker 2: I don't know if y'all know this, but there's a

1560
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:21,519
Speaker 2: precedent for this. And I'm not talking cabinet. Jerry Richison,

1561
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 2: who used to own the Carolina Panthers. They got his

1562
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 2: ass up out of here. Hey, he ain't fit to

1563
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:31,680
Speaker 2: be affiliated with the league in no capacity for the

1564
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:34,719
Speaker 2: rest of his life. He was mad he was an owner,

1565
01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 2: So I think they would do that to a coach

1566
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:38,720
Speaker 2: without thinking about it.

1567
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:39,719
Speaker 3: Think twice.

1568
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:43,879
Speaker 2: Wanganji says he was all good with the throwback Thursday racism,

1569
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:47,599
Speaker 2: but got caught out talking shit about the commission. That

1570
01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 2: can't That can't stand. You can't talk shit about billionaires

1571
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:53,760
Speaker 2: and keep working. You definitely can't talk shit about a

1572
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 2: man who represents a consortium of billionaires. That's a good point.

1573
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 2: And expect the word it's over over y'all think it's over.

1574
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:04,559
Speaker 2: I'll be shocked, man, but I'll leave someone to be shocked.

1575
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 2: That's that's fine.

1576
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:08,759
Speaker 3: That's a part of life. You're shocked every day.

1577
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:11,559
Speaker 2: Damn this shit got sixteen responses on this one. Y'all

1578
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 2: got allowed to say Episode Q and A. Have you

1579
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 2: ever sent a racist email on a work account? Uh?

1580
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 2: Aphelia says no, Like, despite not liking my coworkers like that,

1581
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 2: I have no reason to send even jokes on coming

1582
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:30,840
Speaker 2: in time. M Nicole says no, but the department group

1583
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:39,479
Speaker 2: text will child Rachel says absolutely never. Mecca says yes,

1584
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:42,800
Speaker 2: usually to my black coworkers about how upper management ain't shit,

1585
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 2: should not be trusted. Maybe that's the real reason I

1586
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 2: got fired shrug.

1587
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 3: Yesterday.

1588
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:51,679
Speaker 2: You'll think somebody snitching a sage in the group chat.

1589
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 2: She went and told everybody I t d the world.

1590
01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 3: Check your and your shit, popped up your Microsoft teens chat,

1591
01:24:58,040 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 3: popped up crackers.

1592
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:04,479
Speaker 2: She's not talking about the pot. Look Katie and says

1593
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 2: I'm not dumb, so no. Landon says no. Shannon says

1594
01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:15,040
Speaker 2: we saved that for face to face meetings. Smart Sawyer says, no,

1595
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:18,400
Speaker 2: I need my coins. Langston says, I who be doing that?

1596
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:21,679
Speaker 2: I assume work sees all your emails. If you're trying

1597
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 2: to do that, then be smart about it. Just kidding,

1598
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:29,960
Speaker 2: just kidney put but he's not kidding. Tiffanish says, note

1599
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:33,599
Speaker 2: but racist adjacent. Hmm maybe well, I think everyone said

1600
01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:35,840
Speaker 2: racist adjacent, but they can't prove that in the quart

1601
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 2: of lof Campbell says no. Never. White family says high

1602
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 2: Ridy Karen, No, I have not sent racist email for

1603
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 2: my work email, but I will plead the fifth on

1604
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:47,719
Speaker 2: my personal emails. On the side note, I took y'all's

1605
01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:51,120
Speaker 2: recommendation and got a weighted blanket hashtag heaven come on.

1606
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:57,559
Speaker 2: Devereux says racist emails should work, records everything. I only

1607
01:25:57,720 --> 01:26:00,160
Speaker 2: use my work comp to go on Google Maps to

1608
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:03,879
Speaker 2: learn city layouts. Meanwhile I be going on that Facebook

1609
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:07,920
Speaker 2: account paying bills and doing their taxes. Chris says, I

1610
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 2: don't even sae re receipts when they ask. Damn even

1611
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 2: when they ask, they do it.

1612
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 3: I say no to baby. Don't feel bad.

1613
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:17,719
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, okay, oh wow, I know Negroes was playing.

1614
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:19,840
Speaker 2: Was getting so bold at work these.

1615
01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:22,599
Speaker 3: Days, cause you could because you see it. Then all

1616
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 3: of a sudden, you're gonna expect me to respond immedately.

1617
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:26,760
Speaker 3: I just not be clicking on it.

1618
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:29,439
Speaker 2: No, because I have at least a little bit of since.

1619
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:34,760
Speaker 2: So thanks for the responses everybody. That was fun. And

1620
01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:41,400
Speaker 2: the last episode was what You're gonna do about this? Uh?

1621
01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:45,599
Speaker 2: It was our walking dairy cap because of the Watcher,

1622
01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:52,000
Speaker 2: which I just thought was a funny name. Two comments.

1623
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:55,680
Speaker 2: Ms Barr says the three percent of is dead and

1624
01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:58,200
Speaker 2: someone far Wars is taking its place. This episode was

1625
01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:00,439
Speaker 2: so good. Lee is going to be a whole. She

1626
01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 2: got her Hitchman that hates Darryl's ass. I cannot wait

1627
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:06,679
Speaker 2: for the second half of this final season. I cannot

1628
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 2: say this enough. Shout out to Angel Kane for rehaving

1629
01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 2: our series into some damn good television. I'm excited about

1630
01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 2: where this final season is going.

1631
01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:15,960
Speaker 3: I've said this before and I will continue to say

1632
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 3: this again. And I enjoyed The Walking Dead, but they

1633
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:23,880
Speaker 3: allowed that white Man to run that season to the ground.

1634
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:26,160
Speaker 3: I think he been should have left, and if Ajedy

1635
01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 3: came would have got it earlier, the series would have

1636
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:31,720
Speaker 3: been saved and the viewership would have stayed. Not that

1637
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 3: everybody would have stayed, but it wouldn't be as low

1638
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:35,439
Speaker 3: as it is right now.

1639
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:37,840
Speaker 2: Even he says, I have a feeling that Daryl is

1640
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 2: gonna end up killing Lee. Thankfully, Maggie and niegin and

1641
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 2: Gave took out the most of the Reapers and Pope

1642
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 2: is gone. I think we'll be done with that storyline

1643
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 2: in the first episode in the next half. No point

1644
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:50,479
Speaker 2: in playing this out much longer. Then we have to

1645
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 2: consider that this is the last season. They'll still have

1646
01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:56,200
Speaker 2: to show what's happening in the Commonwealth. Also, Maggie once

1647
01:27:56,240 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 2: again has Nighan to thank for coming up with the

1648
01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:01,439
Speaker 2: Whispers plan. But of course you'll never acknowledge that, right

1649
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:07,639
Speaker 2: with Harr With Henry Maggie, Yeah, I will. I wonder

1650
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 2: if it'll be that easy to be done with the Reapers,

1651
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:15,800
Speaker 2: because I would like to see Connie kill Leah, you know,

1652
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:19,320
Speaker 2: I like to see her, you know, take it to her.

1653
01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:22,760
Speaker 2: Let's get this love triangle going. You brought up a

1654
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:25,919
Speaker 2: very good point, rid if I survived, If I survived

1655
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 2: the Wolves, Woodsbury, Cannibals, the Whispers, and the Savings, there's

1656
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:30,960
Speaker 2: not a lot I wouldn't do to live in the

1657
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:33,280
Speaker 2: town with lollipops and ice cream. Well, shout out the

1658
01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:35,320
Speaker 2: fire Starter for that point, because they I listened to

1659
01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:39,760
Speaker 2: they podcast and they had me dyet, oh my god,

1660
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:42,080
Speaker 2: like literally one of the funniest segments they've done in

1661
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:44,920
Speaker 2: the long time. Not that it's always funny, but yes,

1662
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:49,080
Speaker 2: that one just was like, oh, man, bond tone was

1663
01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:49,800
Speaker 2: just in the zone.

1664
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:50,040
Speaker 4: Man.

1665
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:53,200
Speaker 2: They were just riffing, going back and forth about all

1666
01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:55,240
Speaker 2: that shit. So that that was where I heard it,

1667
01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 2: and I was like, they right, like like I don't

1668
01:28:58,360 --> 01:28:59,800
Speaker 2: even really have a lot of jokes to add you

1669
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:03,719
Speaker 2: than just they absolutely right. These motherfuckers got good soaps

1670
01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:09,160
Speaker 2: and can real sugar sell out in a heartbeat. I

1671
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:11,280
Speaker 2: wouldn't turn the sage still the cannas, I would turn

1672
01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:14,600
Speaker 2: into save, steal the canvas on so fast boy is

1673
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:17,320
Speaker 2: shocking and jobbing. I would do the remaining of commonwealth.

1674
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:19,639
Speaker 2: Want me to lean learn how to tap dance, I'll

1675
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:23,760
Speaker 2: be tapping like mister Bojangles, enjoying the recaps on hanging

1676
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:27,120
Speaker 2: in there with you till the end. Thank you. And lastly,

1677
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:29,880
Speaker 2: the poll was do you think Rosita was secretly bitten

1678
01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:34,880
Speaker 2: because I think she was noy No. Forty eight percent

1679
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:38,519
Speaker 2: say yes, Karen, mm hm yes, So all right, get

1680
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:42,639
Speaker 2: that up to about fifty to fifty. Glad Gladina says

1681
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:45,479
Speaker 2: someone shared your vice them Thrones and if you're on

1682
01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 2: Facebook back before season eight, I turned in and enjoy

1683
01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:52,600
Speaker 2: your recaps of Gaveing Thrones, but quickly realized that was

1684
01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 2: just a small piece of what you guys discussing your

1685
01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:57,320
Speaker 2: podcast recaps on some of my favorite shows, Walking Dad,

1686
01:29:57,360 --> 01:29:59,639
Speaker 2: This is Us, Insecure, Guess the Race, fuck with Black

1687
01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:02,639
Speaker 2: People to b TQ News, White People News. Needless to say,

1688
01:30:02,680 --> 01:30:05,320
Speaker 2: I've been a listener ever since. I'm almost ashamed to

1689
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 2: say it took me this long to post a review,

1690
01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:09,760
Speaker 2: but here it is. Five stars. Love what y'all do

1691
01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:11,920
Speaker 2: for the community, and I will continue to share your

1692
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:14,240
Speaker 2: shows with my friends if I could just get y'all

1693
01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:16,840
Speaker 2: to post on IG more because I don't really do

1694
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:20,000
Speaker 2: Twitter except with an award show or Marry at First suck.

1695
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:23,360
Speaker 2: And I promise I'm gonna sign up for Premium just

1696
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:26,360
Speaker 2: as soon as I get back from us today. Oh okay, Caladina,

1697
01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:32,400
Speaker 2: thank you. And we've been doing some experiments for posting

1698
01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:37,360
Speaker 2: stuff on Instagram, although that's just not my my ministry,

1699
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 2: but we're working on it, you know, try to post

1700
01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:40,080
Speaker 2: a little more often.

1701
01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:44,840
Speaker 3: You also, like Roger was talking about possibility next month,

1702
01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:48,240
Speaker 3: we're going to uh space behind.

1703
01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:51,160
Speaker 2: The payof don't tell. Don't tell these niggas nothing yet.

1704
01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:53,919
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, don't get this, don't get this goodness.

1705
01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:57,160
Speaker 2: Dan Yelle says, oh no, wait, why did y'all do that?

1706
01:30:57,240 --> 01:31:00,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to rewatch the show again. Well, I

1707
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:03,240
Speaker 2: don't think they showed her getting bit. They just filmed

1708
01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:05,840
Speaker 2: it in a way that like whenever they do that,

1709
01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:07,840
Speaker 2: it's like, why the fuck did she go out the

1710
01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:10,040
Speaker 2: house and kill twelve zombies to come back in? If then,

1711
01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:13,920
Speaker 2: unless they're gonna reveal later like I sacrificed myself for y'all.

1712
01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:17,519
Speaker 2: Angel says, Hey, y'all love your Walking Dad recast. Look

1713
01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:20,639
Speaker 2: forward to your Fury casts. I hope Daryl has learned

1714
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:23,280
Speaker 2: he can't mess with these white women. Connie would have

1715
01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:26,240
Speaker 2: never done him like that, never never. Thank you for

1716
01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:28,719
Speaker 2: sticking with the Walking Dad recast. They were so fun

1717
01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:31,240
Speaker 2: and the vivid way you recap the story and chars

1718
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:37,080
Speaker 2: reaction make my day. Thank you. Thank you. And the

1719
01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:43,040
Speaker 2: anchor polls for Spotify, sixty two percent people say she

1720
01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:46,280
Speaker 2: did get bitten, thirty eight say no, So that one

1721
01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:50,439
Speaker 2: it's a lot higher. But the and then the comment

1722
01:31:50,479 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 2: I left was believe in yourself. And Ms Barnes said,

1723
01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:56,840
Speaker 2: thank you. You're welcome, buddy, You're welcome. All right. We

1724
01:31:56,880 --> 01:31:59,240
Speaker 2: had one voicemail. Let's get to it. I think it's

1725
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:01,800
Speaker 2: flitting two parts, so I think that's from Tyrong.

1726
01:32:03,640 --> 01:32:06,240
Speaker 4: Hey, Rod and Karen and Tyrone Man. I called you

1727
01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:10,160
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks ago, just finished celebrating Monday was

1728
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:13,280
Speaker 4: our first anniversary with my wife, Tanya, I don't want

1729
01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:14,800
Speaker 4: to say I love your baby, but I'm calling you

1730
01:32:14,840 --> 01:32:18,400
Speaker 4: about young crew man. This is not even wild. Man.

1731
01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:21,280
Speaker 4: I'm watching this thing and they're talking about how this

1732
01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:25,720
Speaker 4: man has been sending these emails since twenty eleven, two

1733
01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:31,240
Speaker 4: two eleven to twenty eighteen, about how the god man,

1734
01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:36,040
Speaker 4: it's just so much man, about how the white flock man.

1735
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:37,679
Speaker 4: I don't even know how to say it. Man about

1736
01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:40,599
Speaker 4: who all the talk he talks about everybody, not one

1737
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:43,599
Speaker 4: or two people, he talked about everybody. This dude went

1738
01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:47,200
Speaker 4: on everybody. And the funny thing is, for years, Keisha

1739
01:32:47,240 --> 01:32:49,960
Speaker 4: and Johnson had been on this man's and talking about

1740
01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:52,800
Speaker 4: how he was and who he was, and nobody listened

1741
01:32:52,800 --> 01:32:54,920
Speaker 4: to him, and everybody talking about how crazy it was

1742
01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:57,439
Speaker 4: that this man would go off on him. And I'm

1743
01:32:57,439 --> 01:32:59,360
Speaker 4: listening to the radio shows and I'm listening to Max

1744
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:02,800
Speaker 4: Kellerman going, Man, I don't see how you know he

1745
01:33:02,920 --> 01:33:06,320
Speaker 4: felt like doing this and how he got away with this,

1746
01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:08,840
Speaker 4: and how he felt like he could get away with it.

1747
01:33:08,880 --> 01:33:14,439
Speaker 4: But it's the faces of white this man. It doesn't fail. Usually,

1748
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:17,559
Speaker 4: if it's just been one email about a black man

1749
01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:20,360
Speaker 4: in his lips, he probably would have got away with right,

1750
01:33:20,439 --> 01:33:22,920
Speaker 4: But the NFL had a grudge because after they realized

1751
01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:24,960
Speaker 4: he was trying to get away with it, some more

1752
01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:27,639
Speaker 4: folks brought the rest of them out. Man, this dude,

1753
01:33:28,120 --> 01:33:31,559
Speaker 4: it's a horrible dude. But the funny thing is everybody

1754
01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:34,320
Speaker 4: he would sending emails to work two. Think about how

1755
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 4: many people he sees hit on them emails, how many

1756
01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:41,519
Speaker 4: people he talked to. Man, that was wow. So man,

1757
01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:44,120
Speaker 4: I know my time running out, but man, I hooked

1758
01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:48,040
Speaker 4: out hit on this hard man. This dude chucky got

1759
01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:50,040
Speaker 4: it as killed this time, all right, LA.

1760
01:33:50,760 --> 01:33:52,720
Speaker 2: So he left these tuesdays, So this is the day

1761
01:33:52,720 --> 01:33:54,800
Speaker 2: we talked about it, I believe, So we kind of

1762
01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:58,360
Speaker 2: did hit on this. But yeah, man, he absolutely was

1763
01:33:58,360 --> 01:34:01,320
Speaker 2: find people in the fucking emails. And the NFL is

1764
01:34:01,360 --> 01:34:03,559
Speaker 2: already kind of declaring the shit over with like there's

1765
01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:07,759
Speaker 2: no more emails of any significance, and like John Gruener's emails,

1766
01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:11,280
Speaker 2: but they forget they I think what the NFL's are

1767
01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:12,960
Speaker 2: villain is they don't know how big the leak is,

1768
01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:17,960
Speaker 2: right because like the newspaper already started New York Times

1769
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:21,679
Speaker 2: already started publishing emails from the lawyer of the NFL,

1770
01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:27,360
Speaker 2: and some racists and like just fucked up shit. He

1771
01:34:27,479 --> 01:34:31,200
Speaker 2: was sending it to that same GM Bruce Allen. So

1772
01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:35,080
Speaker 2: I think the NFL might actually end up in a

1773
01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:38,400
Speaker 2: space where they have to give up those emails or

1774
01:34:38,640 --> 01:34:42,200
Speaker 2: somebody just leaks them and publishes the shit online, because

1775
01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:45,000
Speaker 2: I think somebody probably got them all. You know they do,

1776
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:47,240
Speaker 2: because how else are they you know, they.

1777
01:34:47,240 --> 01:34:49,880
Speaker 3: Keep fucking with them, David. You know, basically they like,

1778
01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:51,600
Speaker 3: oh every time everybody.

1779
01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:51,760
Speaker 2: It's over.

1780
01:34:51,920 --> 01:34:54,840
Speaker 3: Oh word, it's over, over world, Like they just wait

1781
01:34:54,920 --> 01:34:56,680
Speaker 3: for them to come out and try to defend it,

1782
01:34:56,760 --> 01:34:59,320
Speaker 3: like it's over, and like you say, eventually somebody's going

1783
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:00,360
Speaker 3: to come out of it. Was like, you know what,

1784
01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:03,559
Speaker 3: here is, everything came. We find out what you're gonna find.

1785
01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:06,680
Speaker 2: It's very much like that what TMZ used to do,

1786
01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:09,680
Speaker 2: like back in the day when TMZ would be like

1787
01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:12,640
Speaker 2: we leaking this little part or something and then the superstar,

1788
01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:14,800
Speaker 2: the celebrity goes out and denies it, and then they

1789
01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:18,439
Speaker 2: leaked here's the video footage of you doing it, you know,

1790
01:35:18,640 --> 01:35:21,479
Speaker 2: and it's like, I can't believe that. And you know,

1791
01:35:22,160 --> 01:35:25,880
Speaker 2: the part that was the wowdest of me was when

1792
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:27,680
Speaker 2: the past I think his name, his last name is

1793
01:35:27,680 --> 01:35:31,920
Speaker 2: pash Well. His emails was exposed at the end of

1794
01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:35,479
Speaker 2: the article, three or four NFL teams. NFL teams came

1795
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:39,960
Speaker 2: out and vouched for him, came out and said, hey,

1796
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:42,880
Speaker 2: he actually is a good guy. And I said, now

1797
01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:45,599
Speaker 2: we all didn't learn nothing from Gruden because everybody had

1798
01:35:45,640 --> 01:35:49,519
Speaker 2: said that looks stupid. Now just let him fry. I

1799
01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:52,920
Speaker 2: was I did for our nerves today for the what

1800
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:56,439
Speaker 2: If All Star panel, and we were just having chit

1801
01:35:56,520 --> 01:36:00,800
Speaker 2: chat before the show and talked to you said that,

1802
01:36:01,080 --> 01:36:03,080
Speaker 2: uh you know, there was and it was like more

1803
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:06,280
Speaker 2: women than men or whatever. So you know, it's kind

1804
01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:10,160
Speaker 2: of like, well, you know, so such and such because

1805
01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:13,040
Speaker 2: uh something something, Well this person is a black man,

1806
01:36:13,120 --> 01:36:18,920
Speaker 2: so you know, blah blah blah. Right, and uh Tatiana

1807
01:36:19,120 --> 01:36:21,559
Speaker 2: is like, well, you know Rod and Ben, they they

1808
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:25,840
Speaker 2: all right, they good and Jan was like, Nope, don't

1809
01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:29,040
Speaker 2: say that. And I'll say, you know what, fair dog,

1810
01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:33,240
Speaker 2: I'm like, one, I don't really what The accolade doesn't

1811
01:36:33,240 --> 01:36:37,519
Speaker 2: really change anything about someone's character. They're fucked up. Calling

1812
01:36:37,560 --> 01:36:39,680
Speaker 2: them a not fucked up doesn't mean they're gonna not

1813
01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:41,960
Speaker 2: be fucked up. They're just gonna be fucked up, and

1814
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:44,280
Speaker 2: now you look stupid because you was out here talking

1815
01:36:44,280 --> 01:36:44,960
Speaker 2: about they not.

1816
01:36:46,479 --> 01:36:47,280
Speaker 3: And all.

1817
01:36:47,439 --> 01:36:51,560
Speaker 2: And also people's character and actions speak more than any

1818
01:36:51,600 --> 01:36:54,320
Speaker 2: fucking co sign, Like what you gonna walk around with

1819
01:36:54,360 --> 01:36:56,120
Speaker 2: a five star if you on your shirt, it don't matter.

1820
01:36:57,920 --> 01:37:01,200
Speaker 2: But but my point was I get it because how

1821
01:37:01,200 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 2: many times do you watch somebody getting broad in some bullshit?

1822
01:37:06,120 --> 01:37:08,200
Speaker 2: And then the people that get drugged down is the

1823
01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:10,559
Speaker 2: people that say friends that feel like I gotta say something.

1824
01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:12,760
Speaker 2: I can't let y'all do them like this, Hey, he

1825
01:37:12,920 --> 01:37:14,880
Speaker 2: always been good to me, and this like, well, this

1826
01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:17,479
Speaker 2: nigga is the south Side rapist. So I wish you

1827
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:21,320
Speaker 2: wouldn't have said shit because this motherfucker is is all

1828
01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:24,080
Speaker 2: we got them on four K he did it, and

1829
01:37:24,160 --> 01:37:26,080
Speaker 2: now you look dumb. Well, and you done took a

1830
01:37:26,160 --> 01:37:29,799
Speaker 2: hit for what Like this motherfucker clearly didn't care about you.

1831
01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:32,200
Speaker 2: So that's how I feel when they start vouching for

1832
01:37:32,240 --> 01:37:35,360
Speaker 2: these dudes with these racist emails and shit, no, don't

1833
01:37:35,439 --> 01:37:38,600
Speaker 2: hit me up. I don't have nothing to say, no.

1834
01:37:37,840 --> 01:37:39,360
Speaker 3: No kind Damn. I'm trying to tell you right now,

1835
01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:41,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be a motherfucking no comments.

1836
01:37:41,200 --> 01:37:44,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, alright, last part is email.

1837
01:37:46,040 --> 01:37:48,000
Speaker 4: Hey Rod and Carron this ty one yea. I wasn't

1838
01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:50,280
Speaker 4: gonna call back, but I was just listening to more shows, man.

1839
01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:52,360
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, man, I was just listening to some more

1840
01:37:52,400 --> 01:37:54,519
Speaker 4: shows and I was listening to somebody to say that

1841
01:37:55,080 --> 01:37:57,760
Speaker 4: they don't understand why would he do this? Or I

1842
01:37:57,840 --> 01:38:00,920
Speaker 4: can't put it in quite wait wait, white folks put

1843
01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:02,800
Speaker 4: it when they're talking. Man. And I'm not trying to

1844
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:05,680
Speaker 4: be that kind of dude, but this is what You've

1845
01:38:05,680 --> 01:38:07,240
Speaker 4: been talking about rock for a while, and I've been

1846
01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:09,320
Speaker 4: kind of who pulled it, But I've been like, you know,

1847
01:38:09,320 --> 01:38:11,479
Speaker 4: my daddy even tell me this, by the way, you know,

1848
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:13,960
Speaker 4: and Chris I said, white folks will losing the country.

1849
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:17,439
Speaker 4: But to who the more of them here? They got

1850
01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:20,439
Speaker 4: all the power. I mean, whatever they say, we kind

1851
01:38:20,479 --> 01:38:22,559
Speaker 4: of gotta go with. I mean, I tell my wife

1852
01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:24,599
Speaker 4: all the time, I try not just ling on things

1853
01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:27,400
Speaker 4: that go on, because for the most part, we only

1854
01:38:27,400 --> 01:38:29,880
Speaker 4: can change things an inch at a time. When we

1855
01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:33,000
Speaker 4: got a football field to go through, I mean, I

1856
01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:36,559
Speaker 4: hear people talking about how white folks, you know, did

1857
01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:38,960
Speaker 4: cut Phebee, But think about when in that time you've

1858
01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:42,439
Speaker 4: seen two or three Native Americans outside of a reservoir.

1859
01:38:42,479 --> 01:38:46,480
Speaker 4: I mean, outside of outside of their homes. I mean seriously,

1860
01:38:47,240 --> 01:38:49,240
Speaker 4: I mean they try to take out a whole ethnic

1861
01:38:49,320 --> 01:38:55,000
Speaker 4: group with smallpox. I mean, this is what they kind

1862
01:38:55,000 --> 01:38:59,280
Speaker 4: of Let me just stop there, but man, this is crazy. Man.

1863
01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:00,360
Speaker 2: Do you mean?

1864
01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:03,320
Speaker 4: Folks try to figure out why he did it. But

1865
01:39:04,160 --> 01:39:07,240
Speaker 4: that's why they That's why they attacked the Congress, and

1866
01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:09,439
Speaker 4: this is why they went after the Senate. And this

1867
01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:12,840
Speaker 4: is why Trump still had them minted that he got

1868
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:16,439
Speaker 4: the election. Sonfe folks feel like they losing. But I

1869
01:39:16,520 --> 01:39:18,800
Speaker 4: just want to ask you one question, man, who in

1870
01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:21,240
Speaker 4: the hell are they losing to, right, because damn it,

1871
01:39:21,320 --> 01:39:25,080
Speaker 4: like christ I said, we're not winning later, man.

1872
01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:30,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, they lose. What they're losing is space. And that's

1873
01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:33,240
Speaker 2: what a lot of these people's reactions to, you know,

1874
01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:36,479
Speaker 2: not just white people, but people have privileged Their reaction

1875
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:39,519
Speaker 2: to a lot of stuff is about losing space, losing

1876
01:39:39,600 --> 01:39:43,559
Speaker 2: control over the narrative, losing the monopoly they've had of everything.

1877
01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:47,479
Speaker 2: So that's really what you're saying. But it's the benefit

1878
01:39:47,560 --> 01:39:52,920
Speaker 2: of the doubt that whiteness gets. That is, if there's

1879
01:39:53,000 --> 01:39:54,880
Speaker 2: one thing I would say, it's holding us back as

1880
01:39:54,880 --> 01:39:58,639
Speaker 2: a country. That's it because even a well meaning quote

1881
01:39:58,720 --> 01:40:03,000
Speaker 2: unquote ally type of white person, they're never gonna put

1882
01:40:03,040 --> 01:40:06,280
Speaker 2: the screws to these white people that because they want

1883
01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:09,479
Speaker 2: don't want to fundamentally believe that some people just feel

1884
01:40:09,560 --> 01:40:12,519
Speaker 2: the way they feel and that they're not gonna change

1885
01:40:12,520 --> 01:40:14,600
Speaker 2: they They're not gonna be reached the same way you

1886
01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:20,040
Speaker 2: were reached, And they're not coincidentally misunderstanding. They actually believe

1887
01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:24,479
Speaker 2: what they say. When they're like, I am, like, I

1888
01:40:24,560 --> 01:40:28,040
Speaker 2: believe racist things. I won't come out and say it

1889
01:40:28,200 --> 01:40:30,719
Speaker 2: was racist, because it's like they're waiting on some confession.

1890
01:40:30,720 --> 01:40:32,240
Speaker 2: But what did John Gruen to say before all the

1891
01:40:32,320 --> 01:40:35,600
Speaker 2: emails came out? I have racist blade in my body.

1892
01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:38,439
Speaker 2: So you got people going on TV going, well, he

1893
01:40:38,520 --> 01:40:41,400
Speaker 2: say he's not racist. Tony Dungee said he's not racist.

1894
01:40:41,400 --> 01:40:44,280
Speaker 2: I'm'a believe them because they want to believe them. Now,

1895
01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:47,679
Speaker 2: that's those same people with Kaepernick. Is Kaepernick a racist?

1896
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Speaker 3: Right?

1897
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Speaker 2: That's those same people. If Kaepernick can have a job

1898
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Speaker 2: in the NFL anymore, and they'll say, well, I don't

1899
01:40:56,640 --> 01:40:59,160
Speaker 2: believe he's done, Like, how do we know he's not

1900
01:40:59,160 --> 01:41:02,000
Speaker 2: gonna kneel? Because they wouldn't give him the benefit of

1901
01:41:02,040 --> 01:41:03,719
Speaker 2: the doubt to even have a chance to not kneel

1902
01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:07,240
Speaker 2: because they know. They're like, no, I know the black

1903
01:41:07,280 --> 01:41:10,920
Speaker 2: person is does not deserve this benefit of the doubt.

1904
01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:13,040
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying Kaepernick shouldn't nel, by the way,

1905
01:41:13,240 --> 01:41:16,160
Speaker 2: I'm just saying if he was white, they would have

1906
01:41:16,280 --> 01:41:18,120
Speaker 2: been like, yeah, he can get a job again, because

1907
01:41:18,320 --> 01:41:21,160
Speaker 2: you know, he may change his mind, he may we

1908
01:41:21,160 --> 01:41:22,920
Speaker 2: can reach him, we can talk to him, we can

1909
01:41:22,960 --> 01:41:27,719
Speaker 2: have some discussions. But he's black. They're like, nah, it's over.

1910
01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:30,320
Speaker 2: He said what he said. That's the only time they

1911
01:41:30,320 --> 01:41:32,840
Speaker 2: accept some shit when a black person like I said

1912
01:41:32,840 --> 01:41:34,760
Speaker 2: what I said about racism, that's the only time they'd

1913
01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:39,439
Speaker 2: be like, WELLOK, damn fine. I guess the white person

1914
01:41:39,439 --> 01:41:41,120
Speaker 2: would be like, I hate these niggas. They'd be like,

1915
01:41:42,479 --> 01:41:44,599
Speaker 2: he's just you know, he's a kid. He's a forty

1916
01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:47,720
Speaker 2: eight year old kid. When that happened, that was over

1917
01:41:48,040 --> 01:41:50,600
Speaker 2: thirty six months ago. How you gonna hold it a

1918
01:41:50,640 --> 01:41:54,200
Speaker 2: guesst him? All right, let's go to the emails. Oh,

1919
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Speaker 2: I just feelize I have an envelope in the other room.

1920
01:41:57,280 --> 01:42:01,479
Speaker 2: I'll get it before finish the email. It's on the

1921
01:42:01,479 --> 01:42:03,880
Speaker 2: coffee table. If you want to get it, that's fine.

1922
01:42:04,520 --> 01:42:09,240
Speaker 2: I'll pause it all right. First email from Danielle, who

1923
01:42:09,240 --> 01:42:13,439
Speaker 2: says one step closer to being extra woke. Hey, guys,

1924
01:42:13,520 --> 01:42:16,360
Speaker 2: we made it through another week. No real comments to

1925
01:42:16,439 --> 01:42:19,920
Speaker 2: add this week, but I appreciate y'all, even justin. Oh,

1926
01:42:19,920 --> 01:42:22,439
Speaker 2: she must have sent this last week after the feedback,

1927
01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:25,760
Speaker 2: so it must be late. Y'all even got justin to

1928
01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:28,479
Speaker 2: keep up. I appreciate y'all, even justin to keep up

1929
01:42:28,520 --> 01:42:30,679
Speaker 2: the great work. I wanted to share this funny conversation

1930
01:42:30,800 --> 01:42:32,519
Speaker 2: with you that I have my girl in chat. Were

1931
01:42:32,520 --> 01:42:35,800
Speaker 2: obviously referring to that white man that still has his

1932
01:42:35,920 --> 01:42:38,519
Speaker 2: name on the holiday in this country, shout out to

1933
01:42:39,600 --> 01:42:42,840
Speaker 2: a happy Indigenous People's Day. And there's a chat where

1934
01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:45,360
Speaker 2: she said, I hope this fire show is ending soon,

1935
01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:48,040
Speaker 2: but no lot of this show is better than what

1936
01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:50,639
Speaker 2: they do in the fourth comes and so on said

1937
01:42:50,680 --> 01:42:54,559
Speaker 2: what's the celebration, and then the other person responded shrug.

1938
01:42:54,600 --> 01:42:57,080
Speaker 2: If I had to guess, since the Italian Festival was today,

1939
01:42:57,120 --> 01:42:59,639
Speaker 2: I'm guessing the early celebration of when their front man

1940
01:43:00,160 --> 01:43:03,840
Speaker 2: leading the genocide in massacre his victory on stealing his

1941
01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:07,559
Speaker 2: This land from Indigenous peoples, as she replied, I can't.

1942
01:43:07,680 --> 01:43:09,639
Speaker 2: I can't with you, but there ain't no other occasion

1943
01:43:09,720 --> 01:43:13,320
Speaker 2: at this time. I suppose uh oh wait, just said

1944
01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:15,439
Speaker 2: you don't have to read the ballogna air. Oh okay,

1945
01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:18,840
Speaker 2: all right, I.

1946
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:22,639
Speaker 3: Actually forgot about it the holiday.

1947
01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:27,280
Speaker 2: I didn't forget about it, but I I just I

1948
01:43:27,439 --> 01:43:29,840
Speaker 2: just I think for the last couple of years, I've

1949
01:43:29,840 --> 01:43:34,559
Speaker 2: been like, let's just take that day off. And you know,

1950
01:43:34,760 --> 01:43:38,240
Speaker 2: it's not like we rock with Columbus, so it's not

1951
01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:40,400
Speaker 2: really only wrong reason to take the day off. But

1952
01:43:41,200 --> 01:43:46,040
Speaker 2: Yeahdigenous People Day episode twenty four to twenty three or

1953
01:43:46,080 --> 01:43:49,479
Speaker 2: the current resident. This is from Jaffo, who says, hey

1954
01:43:49,560 --> 01:43:52,759
Speaker 2: Rider Karen as a huge Grays Anatomy fan, most believe

1955
01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:55,640
Speaker 2: because of Queen Shonda rons along may she reign. I

1956
01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:58,400
Speaker 2: completely agree with Eve Eve's comments on the last feedback

1957
01:43:58,439 --> 01:44:01,280
Speaker 2: show about Ellen Pompeo. She should have kept that shit

1958
01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:03,960
Speaker 2: to herself. Why did Ellen Fielder need to tell that

1959
01:44:04,040 --> 01:44:06,720
Speaker 2: awful story about getting in Denzel's face when he was

1960
01:44:06,760 --> 01:44:10,200
Speaker 2: guested directing the episode and calling him a motherfucker? Especially

1961
01:44:10,200 --> 01:44:12,960
Speaker 2: to Patrick Dempsey, the one person who actually was a

1962
01:44:13,000 --> 01:44:16,080
Speaker 2: notorious motherfucker during his entire time on the show. The

1963
01:44:16,120 --> 01:44:19,040
Speaker 2: stories about Dempsey's own set antics are legendary, and yet

1964
01:44:19,080 --> 01:44:20,960
Speaker 2: she never had a bad word to say about him

1965
01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:23,320
Speaker 2: in the press over the years. It just struck me

1966
01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:26,040
Speaker 2: as peak white woman for her to try to conspiratorially

1967
01:44:26,120 --> 01:44:28,880
Speaker 2: key key and pan it to this arrogant white man

1968
01:44:29,040 --> 01:44:31,600
Speaker 2: who she allegedly disliked while they worked together at the

1969
01:44:31,640 --> 01:44:34,000
Speaker 2: expense of a celebrated and well loved black man, just

1970
01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:36,040
Speaker 2: to try to convince people how bad as she is.

1971
01:44:36,439 --> 01:44:39,040
Speaker 2: The entire respect to go was nauseating into witness because

1972
01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:41,320
Speaker 2: it displays how even some of the most woke white

1973
01:44:41,320 --> 01:44:43,760
Speaker 2: people will show how they really feel and circle the

1974
01:44:43,760 --> 01:44:47,439
Speaker 2: wagons when they aren't any blacks in the room. Ellen,

1975
01:44:47,479 --> 01:44:50,439
Speaker 2: you owed Denzel a sincere public apology, and you better

1976
01:44:50,479 --> 01:44:53,479
Speaker 2: make it sure it gets just as much traction in

1977
01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:59,040
Speaker 2: the press as original story did. Motherfucker. I guess since

1978
01:44:59,040 --> 01:45:02,639
Speaker 2: I was never a fan, I didn't have that same

1979
01:45:02,920 --> 01:45:05,000
Speaker 2: level of vitrioll. But it seemed like you was quite

1980
01:45:05,040 --> 01:45:10,000
Speaker 2: fed up. Yeah. Uh, let's see. I got an Amazon

1981
01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:14,599
Speaker 2: gift from Veronica p Hi Ron Karen. I've been meaning

1982
01:45:14,720 --> 01:45:16,519
Speaker 2: to buy this book for Rod for a long time.

1983
01:45:16,600 --> 01:45:16,800
Speaker 4: Now.

1984
01:45:17,000 --> 01:45:19,120
Speaker 2: I hope you don't already have it. I don't. I

1985
01:45:19,160 --> 01:45:21,560
Speaker 2: haven't already, I haven't already read it. I have it,

1986
01:45:21,920 --> 01:45:24,880
Speaker 2: and that you enjoy it. I will see. I have

1987
01:45:24,960 --> 01:45:27,800
Speaker 2: a newish Toronto Burke slash Brene Brown book in my

1988
01:45:28,280 --> 01:45:30,519
Speaker 2: by too, but not sure if you'll you'd all be

1989
01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:33,160
Speaker 2: interested finding this book listening to y'all talk about the

1990
01:45:33,240 --> 01:45:35,040
Speaker 2: points of archives of writing history. The name of the

1991
01:45:35,040 --> 01:45:39,120
Speaker 2: book is uh, Lose Your Mother, A Journey along the

1992
01:45:39,160 --> 01:45:44,920
Speaker 2: Atlantic Slave Right Route by Sadia V. Hartman, And I

1993
01:45:44,960 --> 01:45:47,360
Speaker 2: did accept the gift, and uh yeah, I look forward

1994
01:45:47,400 --> 01:45:52,920
Speaker 2: to reading it. I just finished the sellout and so

1995
01:45:53,000 --> 01:45:58,920
Speaker 2: I started a new book. And I'm not gonna lie

1996
01:45:59,000 --> 01:46:00,880
Speaker 2: y'all in this pandemic. It's been so hard to read.

1997
01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:04,320
Speaker 2: I'm just so proud to have finished this fucking the

1998
01:46:04,400 --> 01:46:07,120
Speaker 2: one book. It was great. I enjoyed reading it, but

1999
01:46:08,120 --> 01:46:10,640
Speaker 2: you know, being all out of my routine, I'm not

2000
01:46:10,760 --> 01:46:13,479
Speaker 2: reading on the trailmill at the gym, not reading that

2001
01:46:13,840 --> 01:46:17,439
Speaker 2: when I go out to eat by myself. Yeah, like

2002
01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:20,800
Speaker 2: it's just the only time I'm reading is just like

2003
01:46:20,920 --> 01:46:24,920
Speaker 2: around the house doing some shit. So I was very

2004
01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:27,040
Speaker 2: happy to finish that. But yeah. I think I'm gonna

2005
01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:30,320
Speaker 2: start the some of us. I believe it is one

2006
01:46:30,360 --> 01:46:33,639
Speaker 2: of the books that I'm starting. And that was another one.

2007
01:46:34,800 --> 01:46:43,080
Speaker 2: Oh what was it called? It never caught about the

2008
01:46:43,160 --> 01:46:47,920
Speaker 2: runaway slave on the Judge who George Washington escaped George

2009
01:46:47,960 --> 01:46:53,759
Speaker 2: Washington racist ass house. So uh, Nachelle writes in Closer Closer,

2010
01:46:54,160 --> 01:46:56,599
Speaker 2: High Riding Karen. I listened to the episode twenty four

2011
01:46:56,840 --> 01:46:59,880
Speaker 2: eight about Chapelle's Ladies quote unquote comedy Special. I watched

2012
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:02,240
Speaker 2: special a few days ago only because I kept hit

2013
01:47:02,280 --> 01:47:05,080
Speaker 2: seeing commentary about it. I put the yeah, and I mean,

2014
01:47:05,200 --> 01:47:07,720
Speaker 2: that's the genius of it, right, that is, honestly the

2015
01:47:07,760 --> 01:47:11,960
Speaker 2: genius of the shit. He knows everyone's gonna fight about it,

2016
01:47:12,360 --> 01:47:14,519
Speaker 2: and the best word of mouth on the internet is

2017
01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:17,560
Speaker 2: people that hate him.

2018
01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:19,640
Speaker 3: It really is sad free publicity.

2019
01:47:19,920 --> 01:47:24,000
Speaker 2: I think that shit is beneath at least I thought

2020
01:47:24,000 --> 01:47:26,799
Speaker 2: it was beneath him, but I guess I was wrong.

2021
01:47:27,320 --> 01:47:30,880
Speaker 2: And I think that's no different than some of these

2022
01:47:30,920 --> 01:47:33,640
Speaker 2: other people that rally against cancel culture. And really it's

2023
01:47:33,760 --> 01:47:36,160
Speaker 2: just about getting the right people mad on the internet

2024
01:47:36,200 --> 01:47:40,880
Speaker 2: that will fucking help you promote ther shit. Anyway, I

2025
01:47:40,960 --> 01:47:43,120
Speaker 2: put the word comedy coaches because I probably only chuckle

2026
01:47:43,160 --> 01:47:44,920
Speaker 2: three times we get a Dave. You're like, you don't

2027
01:47:44,960 --> 01:47:47,280
Speaker 2: like trans people anyway. I agree with everything you said

2028
01:47:47,280 --> 01:47:49,360
Speaker 2: about the specially however, I'm seeing something that city is

2029
01:47:49,360 --> 01:47:51,439
Speaker 2: about the defense of Dation Pelle. I think they're a

2030
01:47:51,439 --> 01:47:53,880
Speaker 2: bus defending him because the social media posts are all

2031
01:47:53,920 --> 01:47:56,519
Speaker 2: saying the same thing. After break. I hate to break

2032
01:47:56,520 --> 01:47:58,639
Speaker 2: it to you, but we are not canceling dash Pel.

2033
01:47:58,960 --> 01:48:01,320
Speaker 2: No one is calling for us CAN because, as Karen said,

2034
01:48:01,360 --> 01:48:04,320
Speaker 2: no one's ever canceled. Some of that has definitely bots,

2035
01:48:04,320 --> 01:48:07,280
Speaker 2: because bots now have evolved to just any controversial thing

2036
01:48:07,360 --> 01:48:11,479
Speaker 2: on the Internet day sees. But a lot of that

2037
01:48:11,680 --> 01:48:14,680
Speaker 2: is the fact that these people have been programmed and

2038
01:48:14,720 --> 01:48:19,479
Speaker 2: they love a cancel culture champion, and so a lot

2039
01:48:19,479 --> 01:48:21,880
Speaker 2: of them have been like I said, they don't care.

2040
01:48:22,200 --> 01:48:25,599
Speaker 2: They could have not even watched the special. They want

2041
01:48:25,680 --> 01:48:29,000
Speaker 2: to come argue about it, right, So they're looking for

2042
01:48:29,120 --> 01:48:31,960
Speaker 2: people to be like, haha, look at this. You know

2043
01:48:32,800 --> 01:48:37,360
Speaker 2: there's a slippery slope. Transphobia, homophobia, massage, noir helpe. You

2044
01:48:37,439 --> 01:48:40,280
Speaker 2: are well and living your best punkin spicy life. Thank you,

2045
01:48:40,360 --> 01:48:45,280
Speaker 2: Michelle ms Smart says hey, Rid, Karen and chat Family.

2046
01:48:45,520 --> 01:48:47,559
Speaker 2: Two thousand and four, I gathered with friends to watch

2047
01:48:47,640 --> 01:48:49,960
Speaker 2: Chris Frockxon Never Scare. I've been in the audience for

2048
01:48:50,000 --> 01:48:52,320
Speaker 2: the tape and would find out that my significant other

2049
01:48:52,400 --> 01:48:54,640
Speaker 2: even wound up in the film. As I watched, I

2050
01:48:54,680 --> 01:48:57,240
Speaker 2: was constantly telling my friends, now, we were not laughing

2051
01:48:57,360 --> 01:49:01,120
Speaker 2: like that. The part was only the black laughing, and

2052
01:49:01,160 --> 01:49:03,519
Speaker 2: it wasn't enough of us to be that loud. Even

2053
01:49:03,560 --> 01:49:05,840
Speaker 2: a part with my significant other is shown clapping and

2054
01:49:05,960 --> 01:49:08,240
Speaker 2: laughing wasn't in response to the joke they matched it

2055
01:49:08,280 --> 01:49:11,840
Speaker 2: with in the film. It was that recollection that brings

2056
01:49:11,840 --> 01:49:14,280
Speaker 2: me here to walk back my chat room assumptions about

2057
01:49:14,280 --> 01:49:17,719
Speaker 2: the Detroit audience at the Chappelle taping. It's very possible

2058
01:49:17,760 --> 01:49:20,160
Speaker 2: that the burst of laughter and unapologetic bursts weren't the

2059
01:49:20,160 --> 01:49:22,800
Speaker 2: real time reactions at all, much like what made it

2060
01:49:22,800 --> 01:49:26,280
Speaker 2: to the Chris Rock special, where replacement last for uncomfortable

2061
01:49:26,280 --> 01:49:29,120
Speaker 2: silences and uncomfortable giggles in places where some of the

2062
01:49:29,160 --> 01:49:33,519
Speaker 2: most controversial statements were made. Mm. Yeah, we did three

2063
01:49:33,520 --> 01:49:35,280
Speaker 2: guys on and I want to say, Mike be or

2064
01:49:35,320 --> 01:49:38,479
Speaker 2: somebody pointed out that that could be the case. So yeah,

2065
01:49:39,040 --> 01:49:40,960
Speaker 2: like I said, the objects of it made me feel

2066
01:49:41,000 --> 01:49:44,120
Speaker 2: bad because it was a very black audience and they

2067
01:49:44,160 --> 01:49:45,920
Speaker 2: the way they had it filmed, it looked like he

2068
01:49:46,040 --> 01:49:49,000
Speaker 2: was killing them with the trend, like they came there

2069
01:49:49,040 --> 01:49:52,559
Speaker 2: to be transphobic. And there was that one person that

2070
01:49:52,800 --> 01:49:55,639
Speaker 2: clearly I don't think that was edited, where the person

2071
01:49:55,800 --> 01:50:00,280
Speaker 2: like shouted out when Dave Chappelle said the bad room

2072
01:50:00,360 --> 01:50:02,599
Speaker 2: bill the anti trend, and they was like yes, and

2073
01:50:02,640 --> 01:50:05,080
Speaker 2: he was like no, I'm not saying that, And I'm like, well,

2074
01:50:06,680 --> 01:50:08,240
Speaker 2: I'm not saying a lot of those folks in and

2075
01:50:08,240 --> 01:50:10,080
Speaker 2: around the d still like ignorant as fuck, And I

2076
01:50:10,160 --> 01:50:13,439
Speaker 2: say that with a few relatives. I love still calling

2077
01:50:13,520 --> 01:50:17,280
Speaker 2: true city limits home. I also say that having educated

2078
01:50:17,320 --> 01:50:20,360
Speaker 2: shaped in those same city limits. But I want to

2079
01:50:20,439 --> 01:50:23,320
Speaker 2: leave the room that for the real possibility that the

2080
01:50:23,720 --> 01:50:26,600
Speaker 2: reaction wasn't the wide mouth laughter of the trade in

2081
01:50:26,680 --> 01:50:28,840
Speaker 2: the final cut that made it the Netflix. By the way,

2082
01:50:28,880 --> 01:50:30,320
Speaker 2: I have yet to find anyone who was in the

2083
01:50:30,360 --> 01:50:32,879
Speaker 2: audience to get a first hand account of the actual

2084
01:50:32,960 --> 01:50:36,960
Speaker 2: real time responses. I considered that not that much. There's

2085
01:50:37,040 --> 01:50:38,800
Speaker 2: not that much to do in Detroit, so most folks

2086
01:50:38,920 --> 01:50:44,439
Speaker 2: kind of go to the same few events. Chairs miss smart, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

2087
01:50:44,760 --> 01:50:47,880
Speaker 2: like I said, that's that's definitely very possible. I wasn't there,

2088
01:50:47,920 --> 01:50:49,680
Speaker 2: and obviously I can't know.

2089
01:50:49,720 --> 01:50:52,600
Speaker 3: For for sure, and it's television, so there's gonna be

2090
01:50:52,680 --> 01:50:54,560
Speaker 3: some editing, so that wouldn't be surprising.

2091
01:50:54,800 --> 01:50:56,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I wouldn't be shocked if some of that

2092
01:50:56,920 --> 01:51:02,000
Speaker 2: material that made people uncomfortable at home wouldn't have drawn raucous,

2093
01:51:02,000 --> 01:51:05,320
Speaker 2: one hundred percent applause to a lot of folks, man,

2094
01:51:05,320 --> 01:51:08,640
Speaker 2: because I think a lot of people even there's a

2095
01:51:08,640 --> 01:51:11,200
Speaker 2: lot of people that either denial about this Chappelle shit

2096
01:51:11,400 --> 01:51:13,519
Speaker 2: or they just don't want to be there for that part.

2097
01:51:13,560 --> 01:51:16,320
Speaker 2: And they definitely weren't ready for an hour and ten

2098
01:51:16,320 --> 01:51:18,280
Speaker 2: minutes of that. They might have been ready for, like, oh,

2099
01:51:18,320 --> 01:51:20,960
Speaker 2: he'll have ten minutes that I will kind of roll

2100
01:51:21,040 --> 01:51:23,559
Speaker 2: my eyes through or just you know, wait for him

2101
01:51:23,560 --> 01:51:25,439
Speaker 2: to get over and then he'll go back to other things.

2102
01:51:25,479 --> 01:51:26,639
Speaker 2: But he didn't do that this time.

2103
01:51:27,479 --> 01:51:27,599
Speaker 3: Uh.

2104
01:51:27,640 --> 01:51:30,040
Speaker 2: See eed the wrights here and Karen be knowing Hello

2105
01:51:30,120 --> 01:51:33,439
Speaker 2: riding Karen. Sorry, this isn't really a feedback email. I

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Speaker 2: love the show and I'm still catching up, so apologies.

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Speaker 2: You already talked about this, but I saw this post

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01:51:38,320 --> 01:51:40,320
Speaker 2: linked on social media today basically as a post from

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01:51:40,320 --> 01:51:43,840
Speaker 2: an epidemiologist breaking down the studies of about one hundred

2110
01:51:43,880 --> 01:51:46,160
Speaker 2: and forty thousand kids up to June. So I'm sure

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01:51:46,200 --> 01:51:49,799
Speaker 2: there's more now that were left without parents primary caregivers

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Speaker 2: due to COVID. I recall Karen bringing this up during

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01:51:52,400 --> 01:51:55,240
Speaker 2: the episode, so it seems appropriate to share because Karen

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01:51:55,280 --> 01:51:58,120
Speaker 2: be knowing. There's also a link to download to actual study.

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01:51:58,560 --> 01:52:01,599
Speaker 2: Da da da da. We did talk about this already

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01:52:02,200 --> 01:52:07,560
Speaker 2: on the show, but as always, uh, we'll play the

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01:52:07,600 --> 01:52:35,000
Speaker 2: clip next email. Uh pro Corey who rights saying, dear

2118
01:52:35,560 --> 01:52:38,000
Speaker 2: Rod and Karen, and this is colled corporations ain't moral.

2119
01:52:38,280 --> 01:52:40,479
Speaker 2: I hope this message finds you well. I feel y'all

2120
01:52:40,479 --> 01:52:43,000
Speaker 2: when you say the corporations do inclusion thing for PR,

2121
01:52:43,120 --> 01:52:45,080
Speaker 2: but know the real money is in the violent, biggest

2122
01:52:45,120 --> 01:52:49,240
Speaker 2: status quo. Keasey, I think it's Keith. Keith Lehman says

2123
01:52:49,240 --> 01:52:51,479
Speaker 2: the same thing about how life changing it has been

2124
01:52:51,640 --> 01:52:54,160
Speaker 2: for his award winning book Heavy to be published by

2125
01:52:54,160 --> 01:52:57,160
Speaker 2: Simon and Schuster, but there's no getting away from that

2126
01:52:57,280 --> 01:53:02,880
Speaker 2: being the same company publishing Tucker Carlson and others. Yep, yep,

2127
01:53:03,040 --> 01:53:08,040
Speaker 2: I mean that's the thing. Dog like if you getting

2128
01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:15,680
Speaker 2: money of any kind in America, it's tainted and nobody

2129
01:53:15,720 --> 01:53:19,640
Speaker 2: gets to be free of that. There's no system you

2130
01:53:19,680 --> 01:53:23,280
Speaker 2: can install that'll fix that, because the history is the history,

2131
01:53:23,320 --> 01:53:26,240
Speaker 2: in the past is the past, and the way we

2132
01:53:26,360 --> 01:53:29,920
Speaker 2: measure justice in America is still very heavily involved with money.

2133
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:34,920
Speaker 2: Freedom is for a lot of us looks like having money.

2134
01:53:35,640 --> 01:53:38,080
Speaker 2: We call it all kinds of names and shit, We

2135
01:53:38,240 --> 01:53:41,519
Speaker 2: like may try to make ourselves feel better, but access

2136
01:53:41,560 --> 01:53:47,840
Speaker 2: to money is really the American power structure that people

2137
01:53:49,120 --> 01:53:53,120
Speaker 2: can attain, and it's one of the reasons that you know,

2138
01:53:53,120 --> 01:53:54,920
Speaker 2: I make jokes about it, but it's one of the

2139
01:53:54,960 --> 01:53:58,320
Speaker 2: reasons I'm like, yeah, capitalism to a certain extent, since

2140
01:53:58,520 --> 01:54:01,920
Speaker 2: it ain't going nowhere, I don't get I don't begrudge

2141
01:54:01,920 --> 01:54:04,280
Speaker 2: certain people when they're like, I'm just investing in trying

2142
01:54:04,320 --> 01:54:08,320
Speaker 2: to use capitalism to get me a means to make

2143
01:54:08,360 --> 01:54:12,760
Speaker 2: away for myself and other people. And I'm like, honestly, dog,

2144
01:54:13,439 --> 01:54:16,320
Speaker 2: I feel you, because everybody that says they against it

2145
01:54:16,360 --> 01:54:19,839
Speaker 2: has to participate in it, right, and there's no bonus

2146
01:54:19,880 --> 01:54:23,240
Speaker 2: points for not being good at it or being good

2147
01:54:23,240 --> 01:54:25,800
Speaker 2: at it, but then pretending that you like you deserve

2148
01:54:25,840 --> 01:54:26,639
Speaker 2: a pat on the back.

2149
01:54:26,680 --> 01:54:26,880
Speaker 3: You know.

2150
01:54:26,960 --> 01:54:30,519
Speaker 2: It's like like I make this joke sometimes, but it's like, yo,

2151
01:54:30,760 --> 01:54:32,920
Speaker 2: if a socialist woke up with my bank account, they

2152
01:54:32,960 --> 01:54:34,240
Speaker 2: fucking jump off a building.

2153
01:54:34,280 --> 01:54:37,120
Speaker 3: They like what they would be Like, how many is

2154
01:54:37,160 --> 01:54:37,560
Speaker 3: in reals?

2155
01:54:37,600 --> 01:54:41,160
Speaker 2: Did I lose? Yeah? And some of these people socialism

2156
01:54:41,240 --> 01:54:45,040
Speaker 2: is their capitalism like that socialism TM is how they Hey,

2157
01:54:45,120 --> 01:54:47,680
Speaker 2: look I got I'm making a one hundred and fifty thousand

2158
01:54:47,760 --> 01:54:51,800
Speaker 2: dollars a month on Patreon telling people that money is

2159
01:54:51,880 --> 01:54:54,680
Speaker 2: evil and socialism is the real thing. But I would

2160
01:54:54,720 --> 01:54:57,680
Speaker 2: not trade places with none of these niggas. So it

2161
01:54:57,760 --> 01:55:00,640
Speaker 2: is what it is, you know. But and you know,

2162
01:55:00,960 --> 01:55:03,040
Speaker 2: we talked about No Name getting the book thing and

2163
01:55:03,040 --> 01:55:05,680
Speaker 2: people flipping on her. Oh you using Patreon, Oh you

2164
01:55:05,800 --> 01:55:08,600
Speaker 2: doing this? Oh you use go funny while you're raising money.

2165
01:55:08,640 --> 01:55:10,920
Speaker 2: So that's so when jay Z and Beyonce did it,

2166
01:55:10,920 --> 01:55:13,440
Speaker 2: it was wrong, but you can do it. And I'm like, right,

2167
01:55:13,560 --> 01:55:16,360
Speaker 2: because it's no clean dollars. If you want to help

2168
01:55:16,400 --> 01:55:20,240
Speaker 2: someone in America, guess what's gonna take some dollars. Ain't

2169
01:55:20,240 --> 01:55:24,000
Speaker 2: no free help. I don't know if meaningful escape is possible.

2170
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Speaker 2: That's why I haven't gotten truly motivated to get off

2171
01:55:25,840 --> 01:55:28,680
Speaker 2: of Facebook. Maybe y'all need to get more serious. Jamail

2172
01:55:28,760 --> 01:55:30,960
Speaker 2: Hill made the argument, I'm not hit there yet, but

2173
01:55:31,040 --> 01:55:33,600
Speaker 2: because I know she's probably right, I'm gonna start saving

2174
01:55:33,600 --> 01:55:37,560
Speaker 2: stuff that I do that I don't want to lose. Yeah.

2175
01:55:37,640 --> 01:55:40,800
Speaker 2: I think that's something I've been thinking about a lot too,

2176
01:55:40,960 --> 01:55:46,720
Speaker 2: is how much our individual choices, how much of our

2177
01:55:46,720 --> 01:55:50,080
Speaker 2: individual choices are we just hyping up because we're really

2178
01:55:50,160 --> 01:55:53,520
Speaker 2: hyping up ourselves. Yes, you know what I'm saying, Like, Okay,

2179
01:55:53,560 --> 01:55:56,760
Speaker 2: you love us, you left Facebook. What does that do

2180
01:55:56,920 --> 01:55:59,960
Speaker 2: for you as other than come up as a thing

2181
01:56:00,280 --> 01:56:03,840
Speaker 2: that makes you feel better than other people? Occasionally? You

2182
01:56:03,880 --> 01:56:05,960
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. And that's not to not do

2183
01:56:06,000 --> 01:56:08,080
Speaker 2: what you need to do for your mental health obviously,

2184
01:56:08,560 --> 01:56:11,680
Speaker 2: but some of it is just like by nature, it

2185
01:56:11,760 --> 01:56:13,960
Speaker 2: has to be performative, because who the fuck care? You're

2186
01:56:13,960 --> 01:56:17,560
Speaker 2: not on Facebook, congrats, but you are on the other

2187
01:56:17,760 --> 01:56:22,200
Speaker 2: companies ship and the other white man that runs that

2188
01:56:22,240 --> 01:56:25,880
Speaker 2: one that's usually you information and like, none of these

2189
01:56:25,880 --> 01:56:28,280
Speaker 2: things are clean, you know, whether it's Instagram and the

2190
01:56:28,320 --> 01:56:31,919
Speaker 2: ship with the making people feel terrible about their bodies

2191
01:56:31,960 --> 01:56:35,400
Speaker 2: and all that stuff, or whether it's uh Twitter, which

2192
01:56:35,440 --> 01:56:40,440
Speaker 2: is the home of Donald Trump until like yesterday, you know, Facebook,

2193
01:56:40,520 --> 01:56:44,960
Speaker 2: and they're bullshit TikTok, run on by China and fucked

2194
01:56:45,040 --> 01:56:50,000
Speaker 2: up like algorithms and restrictions over there. All of them

2195
01:56:50,040 --> 01:56:52,080
Speaker 2: got some ship with them, all of them. They all

2196
01:56:52,120 --> 01:56:54,320
Speaker 2: made by humans, and they all and all of their

2197
01:56:54,320 --> 01:56:59,160
Speaker 2: goals are to keep you on there of course and me.

2198
01:56:59,360 --> 01:57:02,520
Speaker 2: But look divest if you if whatever makes my thing is,

2199
01:57:02,640 --> 01:57:05,080
Speaker 2: since it's really just about making yourself feel good, whatever

2200
01:57:05,080 --> 01:57:06,520
Speaker 2: makes you feel good to found me, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't care.

2202
01:57:07,640 --> 01:57:10,640
Speaker 2: I don't care, you know. In the meantime, I agree

2203
01:57:10,640 --> 01:57:12,480
Speaker 2: with y'all at least capitalism as for some of these

2204
01:57:12,480 --> 01:57:16,000
Speaker 2: ears to get vaccinated. Good vibes, Thank you, prov Corey,

2205
01:57:16,400 --> 01:57:20,240
Speaker 2: and uh yeah, capitalism be coming through sometimes.

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01:57:22,160 --> 01:57:23,320
Speaker 3: Like I said, it was like, we want to get

2207
01:57:23,360 --> 01:57:26,080
Speaker 3: you'all niggas to work. And if that means, uh, you

2208
01:57:26,120 --> 01:57:27,920
Speaker 3: gotta get this shot, you're gonna get this work. And

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Speaker 3: on top of that, I think, and my I might

2210
01:57:30,480 --> 01:57:33,400
Speaker 3: be remember my personal opinion. I think that some companies

2211
01:57:33,480 --> 01:57:36,280
Speaker 3: don't have a flat album. Now, there's some industries that

2212
01:57:36,400 --> 01:57:39,240
Speaker 3: gonna have mandates, but some industries don't have them yet.

2213
01:57:39,400 --> 01:57:43,000
Speaker 3: They're waiting on the Maderna and the Johnson and Johnson

2214
01:57:43,000 --> 01:57:46,000
Speaker 3: to get FDAD proved. They may have just gotten approved, okay,

2215
01:57:46,040 --> 01:57:48,880
Speaker 3: And once both of them get FDA approved, you know

2216
01:57:49,000 --> 01:57:51,160
Speaker 3: for the regular shots and the boosters all that stuff,

2217
01:57:51,160 --> 01:57:53,360
Speaker 3: they go like, Oh, ain't no more motherfucking excuses all

2218
01:57:53,360 --> 01:57:55,920
Speaker 3: of 'em. If they approved, get this shot.

2219
01:57:56,640 --> 01:57:59,720
Speaker 2: Uh, let's see. Nazill just says you and Carren are

2220
01:57:59,720 --> 01:58:03,320
Speaker 2: the best, period bar none. Thank you, Gina says, hey,

2221
01:58:03,400 --> 01:58:06,280
Speaker 2: Karin a Rod, thank you. It says thanks for all

2222
01:58:06,280 --> 01:58:08,200
Speaker 2: the vas energy and info. Thank you for all you do.

2223
01:58:08,240 --> 01:58:09,960
Speaker 2: I'm listening to feedback show. I had to positive drop

2224
01:58:10,000 --> 01:58:12,320
Speaker 2: a note. I'm visually impaired and I ride a bus

2225
01:58:12,320 --> 01:58:15,200
Speaker 2: for the disabled to work this morning. A trainee learning

2226
01:58:15,200 --> 01:58:18,360
Speaker 2: the routes, how to operate the lifts, etc. What's going

2227
01:58:18,400 --> 01:58:21,160
Speaker 2: on about how the vaccines don't work, that people still

2228
01:58:21,200 --> 01:58:23,920
Speaker 2: get COVID and die, etc. I rolled my bad eyes

2229
01:58:23,960 --> 01:58:26,600
Speaker 2: at her and didn't care if she saw. I thought

2230
01:58:26,640 --> 01:58:29,720
Speaker 2: of y'all when I counted with facts that no, it

2231
01:58:29,760 --> 01:58:32,120
Speaker 2: doesn't keep you from contracting it, but the chances of

2232
01:58:32,160 --> 01:58:35,720
Speaker 2: getting super sick and hospitalized are lower with the vaccine.

2233
01:58:35,720 --> 01:58:37,880
Speaker 2: The bus driver backed that up with the importance of

2234
01:58:37,920 --> 01:58:40,720
Speaker 2: the right thing. I should have added that many of

2235
01:58:40,760 --> 01:58:44,400
Speaker 2: the people she'd be driving half compromised health to begin

2236
01:58:44,480 --> 01:58:46,600
Speaker 2: with and need to be protected as much as possible,

2237
01:58:46,640 --> 01:58:49,640
Speaker 2: and that every visually impaired person she was with on

2238
01:58:49,680 --> 01:58:53,760
Speaker 2: that route this morning is vaccinated. There's an even an

2239
01:58:53,800 --> 01:58:56,520
Speaker 2: audio and caption sign on the bus to mask up

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01:58:56,880 --> 01:59:00,000
Speaker 2: and the info on there on where to get free vaccine.

2241
01:59:00,160 --> 01:59:02,760
Speaker 2: And this woman claimed to have been a nurse at

2242
01:59:02,760 --> 01:59:05,440
Speaker 2: some point. Shaking my head, so thank you for all

2243
01:59:05,480 --> 01:59:07,280
Speaker 2: you do to keep us in foreign encouraging people to

2244
01:59:07,280 --> 01:59:10,120
Speaker 2: get vaccinated and having that just doing energy. It really

2245
01:59:10,280 --> 01:59:13,200
Speaker 2: is really needed out here. Gina, Thank you, Gina, thank you, baby,

2246
01:59:14,240 --> 01:59:16,400
Speaker 2: thank you so much. Man. Like I said, sometimes I

2247
01:59:16,400 --> 01:59:18,360
Speaker 2: get a little self conscious about that because you know,

2248
01:59:18,400 --> 01:59:21,720
Speaker 2: I listen to these other shows and it's like I

2249
01:59:21,760 --> 01:59:23,120
Speaker 2: get it. I get it.

2250
01:59:23,160 --> 01:59:23,360
Speaker 3: Man.

2251
01:59:23,480 --> 01:59:27,320
Speaker 2: You don't want to be the party pooper, and you

2252
01:59:27,400 --> 01:59:30,480
Speaker 2: want people to feel respected because a lot of this

2253
01:59:30,520 --> 01:59:36,440
Speaker 2: is about their feelings. But the harm that's being done

2254
01:59:36,480 --> 01:59:41,360
Speaker 2: behind us being nice, it's not worth it because I

2255
01:59:41,400 --> 01:59:43,640
Speaker 2: don't have it. It's like we're giving people benefit of

2256
01:59:43,680 --> 01:59:47,800
Speaker 2: a doubt who really ain't proving to be worth benefit

2257
01:59:47,840 --> 01:59:50,840
Speaker 2: of the doubt that the people that are holding out man,

2258
01:59:51,080 --> 01:59:56,640
Speaker 2: like you know, like I hear people decrying the mandates

2259
01:59:56,920 --> 02:00:00,040
Speaker 2: like they're not working, or they be like, man, you

2260
02:00:00,040 --> 02:00:02,800
Speaker 2: shouldn't have to be worried about your job. I'm like, yes,

2261
02:00:02,920 --> 02:00:06,040
Speaker 2: the fuck you should you worried about it when you

2262
02:00:06,080 --> 02:00:08,160
Speaker 2: get your tennis shot. No, then shut the fuck up,

2263
02:00:08,320 --> 02:00:14,040
Speaker 2: you should be worried. Uh. Anyway, Rob right saying Dear

2264
02:00:14,160 --> 02:00:17,120
Speaker 2: Rodn and Caron is Rob Hurts ninety four here and

2265
02:00:17,160 --> 02:00:19,800
Speaker 2: as usual, y'all provided some salient points that compel me

2266
02:00:19,840 --> 02:00:22,240
Speaker 2: to think critically. I want to thank Rod for recommending

2267
02:00:22,280 --> 02:00:24,480
Speaker 2: the south Lake podcast to me. I'm not gonna lie.

2268
02:00:24,520 --> 02:00:26,640
Speaker 2: The serious was a little triggering for me in the

2269
02:00:26,720 --> 02:00:28,880
Speaker 2: mid two thousand. I grew up in a predominantly white

2270
02:00:28,880 --> 02:00:32,040
Speaker 2: suburb outside of the DC area. Because my mom knew

2271
02:00:32,040 --> 02:00:34,400
Speaker 2: that I would get the best education. At the time,

2272
02:00:34,480 --> 02:00:37,320
Speaker 2: she ain't considered how it would affect my deep developing

2273
02:00:37,400 --> 02:00:41,240
Speaker 2: racial identity. My first instance of overt racism began in

2274
02:00:41,280 --> 02:00:43,960
Speaker 2: the second grade when I was uninvited from a b

2275
02:00:44,080 --> 02:00:47,440
Speaker 2: DA party because my parents don't like black people. So

2276
02:00:47,520 --> 02:00:49,840
Speaker 2: one said them, I'm glad kids are so honest because

2277
02:00:49,880 --> 02:00:52,160
Speaker 2: her parents were shook. During the meeting with my mom

2278
02:00:52,160 --> 02:00:54,600
Speaker 2: and the principal, I got more convert, It got more

2279
02:00:54,600 --> 02:00:57,720
Speaker 2: convert over the as the years went on. My senior year,

2280
02:00:57,800 --> 02:01:01,160
Speaker 2: I was relatively popular, but only a handful of kids

2281
02:01:01,200 --> 02:01:04,000
Speaker 2: as my true friends and not kids just looking for

2282
02:01:04,040 --> 02:01:07,360
Speaker 2: a cool black friend. However, I always find myself going

2283
02:01:07,400 --> 02:01:09,200
Speaker 2: along to get along for the sake of my mental

2284
02:01:09,200 --> 02:01:11,440
Speaker 2: health and my inability to frame what was said or

2285
02:01:11,480 --> 02:01:14,480
Speaker 2: done to me, especially when it came to the overdiscipline

2286
02:01:14,520 --> 02:01:17,600
Speaker 2: I went through. Yeah, because that's the thing dot You

2287
02:01:17,760 --> 02:01:21,560
Speaker 2: really don't know because it's so hard to connect the

2288
02:01:21,600 --> 02:01:25,160
Speaker 2: macro to the micro, and sometimes it is wrong, but

2289
02:01:25,560 --> 02:01:28,560
Speaker 2: sometimes it's not. So it's like, am I being punished

2290
02:01:28,560 --> 02:01:31,720
Speaker 2: harsher than everybody else? That's an equation you got to

2291
02:01:31,720 --> 02:01:34,000
Speaker 2: figure out. Right, Then if you do figure out, well,

2292
02:01:34,000 --> 02:01:37,280
Speaker 2: it's that happening because I'm doing worse things than other people?

2293
02:01:37,840 --> 02:01:41,040
Speaker 2: Or is it happening because I'm black? And now you're

2294
02:01:41,080 --> 02:01:43,640
Speaker 2: in your own head and it's like, how affirmative do

2295
02:01:43,720 --> 02:01:47,240
Speaker 2: I feel in this? Because we're sabotaging gaslight so often

2296
02:01:47,280 --> 02:01:49,760
Speaker 2: it's hard to be firm and be like, I know

2297
02:01:49,840 --> 02:01:51,840
Speaker 2: this is happening because I'm black and I want something

2298
02:01:51,880 --> 02:01:54,880
Speaker 2: done about it. It's a lot more of us get,

2299
02:01:55,000 --> 02:01:57,760
Speaker 2: you know, a little insecure and like now, the teacher

2300
02:01:57,800 --> 02:02:00,560
Speaker 2: wouldn't just do that, would they? But the answer a

2301
02:02:00,600 --> 02:02:04,040
Speaker 2: lot of times suggests looking back, I would never fought

2302
02:02:04,080 --> 02:02:06,280
Speaker 2: my mom for wanting better for me, but growing up

2303
02:02:06,280 --> 02:02:08,120
Speaker 2: around whiten and it's stunning my ability to connect with

2304
02:02:08,160 --> 02:02:11,520
Speaker 2: other black people, especially black women for years and insecurity

2305
02:02:11,560 --> 02:02:14,280
Speaker 2: I have slowly gotten over by simply being myself around

2306
02:02:14,280 --> 02:02:16,600
Speaker 2: my black co workers instead of what I think a

2307
02:02:16,640 --> 02:02:19,200
Speaker 2: black person should be. Thank God for therapy because I

2308
02:02:19,200 --> 02:02:21,760
Speaker 2: didn't unpack all that on my own. But Southlake reminded

2309
02:02:21,800 --> 02:02:24,440
Speaker 2: me of my town. But on steroids, y'all keep doing

2310
02:02:24,480 --> 02:02:26,160
Speaker 2: what you do best to live. I'll keep listening to

2311
02:02:26,280 --> 02:02:29,480
Speaker 2: Rob Hurts ninety four, Thank You, Thank You, Your Dog,

2312
02:02:29,640 --> 02:02:33,800
Speaker 2: and the other thing too. Listening to South Lake and stuff.

2313
02:02:33,840 --> 02:02:35,800
Speaker 2: There's so many black kids that grow up in that,

2314
02:02:36,040 --> 02:02:39,120
Speaker 2: and you become the black kid that a white person

2315
02:02:39,160 --> 02:02:43,280
Speaker 2: expresses an opinion or they get emotional or they get angry,

2316
02:02:43,720 --> 02:02:46,560
Speaker 2: and it's just like, oh, I got to calm the vote.

2317
02:02:46,600 --> 02:02:49,000
Speaker 2: So hey, y'all want to say nigga cools go ahead

2318
02:02:49,000 --> 02:02:51,160
Speaker 2: and say it. I ain't got no problem with it,

2319
02:02:51,240 --> 02:02:55,040
Speaker 2: you know, and it's like because it could be a

2320
02:02:55,080 --> 02:02:57,680
Speaker 2: social death. Yeah.

2321
02:02:57,920 --> 02:03:03,640
Speaker 3: And the thing about there is that it's all a

2322
02:03:04,320 --> 02:03:09,160
Speaker 3: like I said, it's all a trick because people go

2323
02:03:09,240 --> 02:03:11,520
Speaker 3: through that and they have to deal with all the

2324
02:03:12,480 --> 02:03:16,000
Speaker 3: emotional abuse, sometimes physical abuse, all the abuse that goes

2325
02:03:16,040 --> 02:03:18,720
Speaker 3: along with that. For you to get older and realize,

2326
02:03:18,760 --> 02:03:20,560
Speaker 3: white people a lot of them never get a fuck

2327
02:03:20,600 --> 02:03:23,160
Speaker 3: about you all this. You know, you go through I

2328
02:03:23,240 --> 02:03:24,960
Speaker 3: go to pwr's, you don't get the hook up, then

2329
02:03:25,000 --> 02:03:28,120
Speaker 3: white fucks don't fuck about you. Yeah, you might have

2330
02:03:28,200 --> 02:03:30,160
Speaker 3: went to these schools and got out these and got

2331
02:03:30,160 --> 02:03:32,360
Speaker 3: all these degrees, but when it comes for the connection,

2332
02:03:32,560 --> 02:03:35,640
Speaker 3: when it comes to who gonna get this job, they

2333
02:03:35,640 --> 02:03:38,680
Speaker 3: overlook your black ass every single motherfucking time. You do

2334
02:03:38,760 --> 02:03:42,640
Speaker 3: not benefit whiteness like because you're not white. And that's

2335
02:03:42,680 --> 02:03:45,040
Speaker 3: the trick that they don't ever ever tell you we'll

2336
02:03:45,120 --> 02:03:48,440
Speaker 3: let you hang around, well, we'll we'll let you talk,

2337
02:03:48,480 --> 02:03:50,640
Speaker 3: will let you fuck out women or our men like

2338
02:03:51,040 --> 02:03:52,720
Speaker 3: will let you do that, But when it comes to

2339
02:03:52,760 --> 02:03:55,280
Speaker 3: a certain point, you are not us, so you will

2340
02:03:55,320 --> 02:04:00,360
Speaker 3: never truly and one hundred percently be embraced by whiteness

2341
02:04:00,440 --> 02:04:04,800
Speaker 3: as a whole. And that's the lie that it's hard

2342
02:04:04,840 --> 02:04:06,920
Speaker 3: for a lot of people to open up their eyes to.

2343
02:04:07,000 --> 02:04:11,320
Speaker 3: And that's why Trayvon Martin and that's why a lot

2344
02:04:11,360 --> 02:04:13,959
Speaker 3: of the things that happened opened up people eyes. Oh

2345
02:04:15,160 --> 02:04:17,880
Speaker 3: I thought we were friend friends. Come to find out

2346
02:04:18,280 --> 02:04:22,960
Speaker 3: you were just tolerating me. And that's why friendships fell apart.

2347
02:04:23,040 --> 02:04:28,440
Speaker 3: And Donald Trump same thing. That's why the reality of

2348
02:04:28,560 --> 02:04:32,040
Speaker 3: a lot of friendships came tumbling down on both sides

2349
02:04:32,040 --> 02:04:34,400
Speaker 3: for the white people and the black people, because for

2350
02:04:34,440 --> 02:04:37,440
Speaker 3: the first time the black people was like, hey, y'all,

2351
02:04:37,600 --> 02:04:40,440
Speaker 3: this is a racist shit and they was say, whoa, whoa, whoa. Trevor,

2352
02:04:40,440 --> 02:04:42,440
Speaker 3: I didn't know we talked about that. You were like, yeah,

2353
02:04:42,440 --> 02:04:44,120
Speaker 3: we're gonna talk about it because I'm mad and I'm

2354
02:04:44,160 --> 02:04:46,520
Speaker 3: tired and fuck this. And they're like they don't know

2355
02:04:46,520 --> 02:04:48,560
Speaker 3: how to handle it, you know, they don't know how

2356
02:04:48,600 --> 02:04:51,720
Speaker 3: to handle you accepting that I am tired of this

2357
02:04:51,760 --> 02:04:54,720
Speaker 3: bullshit and I'm speaking up and I'm speaking out. And

2358
02:04:55,000 --> 02:04:57,840
Speaker 3: I never realized it until I became a full fledged adult.

2359
02:04:58,680 --> 02:05:01,440
Speaker 3: The privilege of being around black people and not having

2360
02:05:01,440 --> 02:05:03,480
Speaker 3: to coddle or care about white people's feelings on a

2361
02:05:03,480 --> 02:05:05,280
Speaker 3: lot of shit. I've never had to deal with that.

2362
02:05:05,720 --> 02:05:08,080
Speaker 3: I live in a household people go fucking white people

2363
02:05:08,360 --> 02:05:11,120
Speaker 3: and shit like that, Like they really didn't care about

2364
02:05:11,280 --> 02:05:14,800
Speaker 3: certain things. And so, not that they didn't care about whiteness,

2365
02:05:14,800 --> 02:05:16,600
Speaker 3: not that they didn't know how whiteness impacted them, not

2366
02:05:16,600 --> 02:05:18,120
Speaker 3: to racism and shit like that, but when it comes

2367
02:05:18,160 --> 02:05:20,640
Speaker 3: certain things, I had the privilege of not having to

2368
02:05:21,000 --> 02:05:24,840
Speaker 3: not having to waver on certain things, and so when

2369
02:05:24,880 --> 02:05:27,880
Speaker 3: I became an adult, I did not understand certain perspectives.

2370
02:05:27,920 --> 02:05:31,200
Speaker 3: I was like, the fuck is this what do you mean? Like, Oh,

2371
02:05:31,280 --> 02:05:34,120
Speaker 3: they were raised what they had to be concerned, and

2372
02:05:34,160 --> 02:05:36,000
Speaker 3: they had to care, and they had to caudle white

2373
02:05:36,000 --> 02:05:39,520
Speaker 3: people's feelings. So for them, this is a shock to

2374
02:05:39,600 --> 02:05:42,440
Speaker 3: their system and and and and and and this is something,

2375
02:05:43,080 --> 02:05:45,640
Speaker 3: uh that they had to wake up to. Versus me.

2376
02:05:45,720 --> 02:05:47,360
Speaker 3: I've been black all my life. I've never had to

2377
02:05:47,360 --> 02:05:49,800
Speaker 3: straddle a fence about what I am and who I am,

2378
02:05:50,400 --> 02:05:53,600
Speaker 3: you know, as far as my blackness is, and that's

2379
02:05:53,640 --> 02:05:56,800
Speaker 3: been rooted, good, bad and different. You know, that's that's

2380
02:05:56,840 --> 02:05:58,840
Speaker 3: a struggle that I never had. And so I am

2381
02:05:59,200 --> 02:06:01,480
Speaker 3: happy and I am thankful, and I'm actually glad that

2382
02:06:01,520 --> 02:06:03,040
Speaker 3: a lot of people get to wake up call on

2383
02:06:03,280 --> 02:06:05,360
Speaker 3: a lot of things. And the thing is a lot

2384
02:06:05,400 --> 02:06:07,240
Speaker 3: of the people that grew up like that, those are

2385
02:06:07,240 --> 02:06:09,080
Speaker 3: the people that white people fear the most because all

2386
02:06:09,120 --> 02:06:11,480
Speaker 3: of a sudden, once you start looking at them, at

2387
02:06:11,520 --> 02:06:13,520
Speaker 3: them differently, all of a sudden, it rocks them to

2388
02:06:13,600 --> 02:06:16,120
Speaker 3: their core because they consider you a friend, and all

2389
02:06:16,160 --> 02:06:18,440
Speaker 3: of a sudden they feel a portrayal once you start

2390
02:06:18,520 --> 02:06:19,960
Speaker 3: calling out their flaws.

2391
02:06:20,520 --> 02:06:24,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're also the the litmus test. They've been using

2392
02:06:24,000 --> 02:06:29,200
Speaker 2: them to make themselves good. So if you are the

2393
02:06:29,240 --> 02:06:32,680
Speaker 2: one that goes fuck you, then it becomes like, oh,

2394
02:06:32,720 --> 02:06:36,320
Speaker 2: you definitely gotta go. You're definitely under attack. You're definitely

2395
02:06:36,760 --> 02:06:39,520
Speaker 2: the one who's wrong because I've been using you to

2396
02:06:39,520 --> 02:06:43,440
Speaker 2: say I'm a good person to black people anyway. But

2397
02:06:43,560 --> 02:06:46,680
Speaker 2: now that's that's deep what you wrote Chapelle, Astronauts, etc.

2398
02:06:47,000 --> 02:06:49,120
Speaker 2: From John, who says good morning, carrying to Rod Rod.

2399
02:06:49,200 --> 02:06:50,880
Speaker 2: By this point in the feedback show, I'm guessing you've

2400
02:06:50,880 --> 02:06:53,280
Speaker 2: already talked a ton about Chapelle, so I keep it quick.

2401
02:06:53,440 --> 02:06:55,720
Speaker 2: One I really love your deep dive analysis, and two,

2402
02:06:55,800 --> 02:06:58,080
Speaker 2: it was so wild seeing people screaming bloody murder about

2403
02:06:58,120 --> 02:07:02,240
Speaker 2: John Gruden, rightfully in the breath, declaring that they stand

2404
02:07:02,240 --> 02:07:04,400
Speaker 2: with Chapelle. Uh. It's a pretty sad amount of just

2405
02:07:04,400 --> 02:07:08,240
Speaker 2: how prevalent transphobia is in our society. Yep, yep, yep.

2406
02:07:08,400 --> 02:07:12,160
Speaker 2: And it's the way. It's not like this thing where

2407
02:07:12,600 --> 02:07:17,600
Speaker 2: they do this trick where they're saying we're the counterculture

2408
02:07:18,040 --> 02:07:21,000
Speaker 2: by doubling down on things that actually exist and are

2409
02:07:21,040 --> 02:07:26,080
Speaker 2: the mainstream culture. So many people fall for that, and

2410
02:07:26,120 --> 02:07:29,120
Speaker 2: like it's in a sad way, like so many people

2411
02:07:29,200 --> 02:07:31,640
Speaker 2: fall for that. And you can convince people that on

2412
02:07:31,720 --> 02:07:38,520
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff race, racial stuff, gender stuff, transphobia,

2413
02:07:41,200 --> 02:07:45,400
Speaker 2: immigration stuff, like any marginalized group that people go, hey,

2414
02:07:45,600 --> 02:07:47,480
Speaker 2: they're having a hard time and we need to stand

2415
02:07:47,560 --> 02:07:51,000
Speaker 2: up for them. People can just go and go. You

2416
02:07:51,080 --> 02:07:54,760
Speaker 2: know what. The real problem is, I can't say this

2417
02:07:55,040 --> 02:07:59,200
Speaker 2: racial slur anymore. And there are people who otherwise seem

2418
02:07:59,240 --> 02:08:01,680
Speaker 2: intelligent that fall for one hundred percent of the time,

2419
02:08:02,480 --> 02:08:07,560
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's the it's the well,

2420
02:08:07,680 --> 02:08:11,560
Speaker 2: they had this comedy competition and the finalists had four

2421
02:08:11,640 --> 02:08:14,040
Speaker 2: black people in it out of the ten. See, this

2422
02:08:14,120 --> 02:08:16,920
Speaker 2: is what's wrong with this woke coach and I'm like, well,

2423
02:08:17,200 --> 02:08:20,240
Speaker 2: you do realize what you're saying is the only way

2424
02:08:20,280 --> 02:08:23,120
Speaker 2: for the contest to be valid is for them not

2425
02:08:23,240 --> 02:08:26,720
Speaker 2: to have been that many black people that were good, right,

2426
02:08:27,440 --> 02:08:29,480
Speaker 2: And the only way for the black people to have

2427
02:08:29,600 --> 02:08:32,720
Speaker 2: made it to the end is for them to have

2428
02:08:32,880 --> 02:08:37,200
Speaker 2: been obviously sub part of the white people but selected anyway,

2429
02:08:38,040 --> 02:08:40,040
Speaker 2: you know. And I hate that kind of analysis about

2430
02:08:40,160 --> 02:08:42,360
Speaker 2: award shows and all that. I don't like it. It

2431
02:08:42,480 --> 02:08:45,960
Speaker 2: really frustrates me. And you know, if I'm if I'm

2432
02:08:46,000 --> 02:08:47,880
Speaker 2: around when it's happening, I'll call it out one hundred

2433
02:08:47,880 --> 02:08:50,000
Speaker 2: percent of the time because it's a it's this weird

2434
02:08:50,080 --> 02:08:52,520
Speaker 2: gas lighting cast twenty two that really does say black

2435
02:08:52,560 --> 02:08:56,600
Speaker 2: people are inferior, women are inferior, Gay people are inferior.

2436
02:08:57,040 --> 02:08:59,840
Speaker 2: And the real and the real brave stance is me

2437
02:09:00,920 --> 02:09:03,520
Speaker 2: calling out the status quo and saying these people should

2438
02:09:03,640 --> 02:09:06,360
Speaker 2: never get anything you like out line in time for

2439
02:09:06,400 --> 02:09:10,280
Speaker 2: that shit, we've been held back too long. On another note,

2440
02:09:10,400 --> 02:09:12,800
Speaker 2: I can confirm the world from the world of whiteness

2441
02:09:13,320 --> 02:09:15,760
Speaker 2: that white people absolutely hesitate to watch anything that is

2442
02:09:15,760 --> 02:09:17,680
Speaker 2: called a cart too black. They will make excepsion for

2443
02:09:17,720 --> 02:09:20,160
Speaker 2: things like get out Black Panther, love Craft, et cetera.

2444
02:09:20,560 --> 02:09:22,280
Speaker 2: But for the most part now it's not even a

2445
02:09:22,280 --> 02:09:24,560
Speaker 2: conscious thing. It's just a habit that our privileged sprouts

2446
02:09:24,800 --> 02:09:26,760
Speaker 2: from a very early age. I've been trying to turn

2447
02:09:26,800 --> 02:09:29,520
Speaker 2: my white friends on the snowfall or underground forever, and

2448
02:09:29,600 --> 02:09:33,040
Speaker 2: yet almost nobody has ever actually checked it out. And

2449
02:09:33,160 --> 02:09:35,880
Speaker 2: these are people who have, who often live and breed

2450
02:09:35,920 --> 02:09:38,560
Speaker 2: TV and film and even work in Hollywood. I think

2451
02:09:38,600 --> 02:09:41,040
Speaker 2: they just assume that anything too centered on blackness is

2452
02:09:41,080 --> 02:09:43,920
Speaker 2: too abstract or doesn't have enough they could relate to,

2453
02:09:44,200 --> 02:09:48,920
Speaker 2: or they reflective reflexively reject them because they worried they

2454
02:09:48,960 --> 02:09:51,240
Speaker 2: are going to get some kind of lesson to slash lecture,

2455
02:09:51,560 --> 02:09:54,000
Speaker 2: probably a combination of the two. They don't know what

2456
02:09:54,040 --> 02:09:56,000
Speaker 2: they're missing. On that note, I mean to ask you,

2457
02:09:56,080 --> 02:09:59,120
Speaker 2: which did you like underground or more? Would you like

2458
02:09:59,200 --> 02:10:01,520
Speaker 2: more underground the ground railroad? All right, I'll get to

2459
02:10:01,560 --> 02:10:05,320
Speaker 2: that in a second. But absolutely, people of all stripes

2460
02:10:05,400 --> 02:10:08,640
Speaker 2: do that, whatever privilege they have. Straight people don't want

2461
02:10:08,640 --> 02:10:14,840
Speaker 2: to watch gay shit. Americans don't want to watch shows

2462
02:10:15,000 --> 02:10:17,880
Speaker 2: that I quote unquote foreign to them, you know, subtitles

2463
02:10:17,920 --> 02:10:22,560
Speaker 2: and stuff. And when they do, they expect to be

2464
02:10:22,600 --> 02:10:26,440
Speaker 2: patted on the back. It's why it's so funny to

2465
02:10:26,480 --> 02:10:29,280
Speaker 2: me when white people how much white people love The Wire.

2466
02:10:30,480 --> 02:10:32,600
Speaker 2: It's like, Okay, you love the Wire, The Wire is

2467
02:10:32,680 --> 02:10:36,400
Speaker 2: ten years old. You haven't watched no black shit since

2468
02:10:36,440 --> 02:10:39,320
Speaker 2: the Wire. A lot of them like it's a bunch

2469
02:10:39,320 --> 02:10:42,080
Speaker 2: of good black shit out there. Just go check it out.

2470
02:10:42,160 --> 02:10:45,680
Speaker 2: You be shocked. What you fine? You know? It's why

2471
02:10:45,720 --> 02:10:48,640
Speaker 2: black people have to push diversity inclusions so much because

2472
02:10:48,640 --> 02:10:50,200
Speaker 2: it's basically like, I got to get a job on

2473
02:10:50,240 --> 02:10:52,360
Speaker 2: the white shows to even get the eyeballs on it

2474
02:10:52,400 --> 02:10:54,879
Speaker 2: that will get me the money or the critical acclaim.

2475
02:10:55,320 --> 02:11:01,960
Speaker 3: And also, I think for me, the frustrate with it

2476
02:11:02,000 --> 02:11:04,760
Speaker 3: can be you're on the outside looking in and you're

2477
02:11:04,800 --> 02:11:06,560
Speaker 3: like this is not fair and this is not right,

2478
02:11:06,600 --> 02:11:09,320
Speaker 3: and you know what kind of what can I do

2479
02:11:09,680 --> 02:11:11,880
Speaker 3: you know about this to improve the situation? But it

2480
02:11:11,880 --> 02:11:12,520
Speaker 3: could be hard.

2481
02:11:13,240 --> 02:11:15,880
Speaker 2: Dog, it's a fucking TV show. You don't watch any

2482
02:11:15,880 --> 02:11:17,800
Speaker 2: other show and feel like you got to improve the situation.

2483
02:11:19,040 --> 02:11:21,240
Speaker 2: So just watch the show or don't. It's we're talking.

2484
02:11:21,240 --> 02:11:24,360
Speaker 2: I'm talking about entertainment, you know what I mean. Cause

2485
02:11:24,360 --> 02:11:26,640
Speaker 2: it's like the amount of white people that watch The

2486
02:11:26,720 --> 02:11:30,760
Speaker 2: Handmaid's Tail, which is definitely some woke message shit. But

2487
02:11:30,800 --> 02:11:34,120
Speaker 2: then was like, I can't be watching Underground it's crazy.

2488
02:11:34,720 --> 02:11:35,880
Speaker 2: That is crazy to me.

2489
02:11:36,320 --> 02:11:39,560
Speaker 3: Oh and also the thing for me too is this

2490
02:11:39,640 --> 02:11:43,200
Speaker 3: is another reason why a lot of movie critic review

2491
02:11:43,360 --> 02:11:47,120
Speaker 3: podcasts I used to listen to I stopped because they

2492
02:11:47,200 --> 02:11:50,440
Speaker 3: review everything, the most abstract shit ever. But when it

2493
02:11:50,480 --> 02:11:52,200
Speaker 3: comes to the black shit, all of a sudden we

2494
02:11:52,240 --> 02:11:54,320
Speaker 3: start skipping them. They're not covering them, and they don't

2495
02:11:54,360 --> 02:11:57,120
Speaker 3: review them, they don't even talk about them. You'd be like, well,

2496
02:11:57,440 --> 02:11:59,760
Speaker 3: this was the number one movie this weekend. They don't

2497
02:11:59,760 --> 02:12:02,720
Speaker 3: even talk about that shit. They'll do some ourt house shit.

2498
02:12:02,720 --> 02:12:04,720
Speaker 3: You'll be like, well, this was number one movie. Why

2499
02:12:04,720 --> 02:12:06,880
Speaker 3: ain't you talking about this shit. You're like, oh, cause

2500
02:12:06,960 --> 02:12:09,000
Speaker 3: y'all don't want to talk about the ship. Or if

2501
02:12:09,000 --> 02:12:10,800
Speaker 3: they do talk about it, a lot of times they

2502
02:12:10,840 --> 02:12:12,760
Speaker 3: will not going to race shit, or they'll miss the

2503
02:12:12,880 --> 02:12:16,200
Speaker 3: race shit, or they'll talk around it or act like,

2504
02:12:16,400 --> 02:12:19,360
Speaker 3: you know, the choices that the person was made was stupid,

2505
02:12:19,360 --> 02:12:20,880
Speaker 3: and you're like, oh, I can't listen to this because

2506
02:12:20,880 --> 02:12:21,720
Speaker 3: you don't understand.

2507
02:12:22,200 --> 02:12:26,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that definitely can be frustrated. I let's act

2508
02:12:27,600 --> 02:12:29,960
Speaker 2: I'll accept the second one. The first one, I wan't

2509
02:12:29,960 --> 02:12:32,480
Speaker 2: fuck with you right like, cause I get we all

2510
02:12:32,480 --> 02:12:35,360
Speaker 2: have spots where we don't understand our privileges and stuff

2511
02:12:35,400 --> 02:12:38,120
Speaker 2: like or we just we're delving into this situation we

2512
02:12:38,120 --> 02:12:40,080
Speaker 2: don't understand, we want to experience it. I think that's

2513
02:12:40,080 --> 02:12:42,520
Speaker 2: happening right now with squid Games. I don't know that

2514
02:12:42,600 --> 02:12:45,040
Speaker 2: much about Korean culture, and there's a lot of stuff

2515
02:12:45,080 --> 02:12:47,920
Speaker 2: in there that is subtext for like shit that happens

2516
02:12:47,920 --> 02:12:52,000
Speaker 2: in Korean culture that is like directly like, oh, you

2517
02:12:52,120 --> 02:12:53,960
Speaker 2: need to be from this place or know a lot

2518
02:12:54,000 --> 02:12:57,280
Speaker 2: about this place. But I still enjoyed the show, right

2519
02:12:58,000 --> 02:13:01,320
Speaker 2: And I think that's the thing, Like you can enjoy

2520
02:13:01,520 --> 02:13:04,280
Speaker 2: Underground without needing to know the history of the underground

2521
02:13:04,320 --> 02:13:07,640
Speaker 2: railroad and all that stuff. But how many people aren't

2522
02:13:07,640 --> 02:13:09,440
Speaker 2: even gonna watch it, you know what I'm saying. And

2523
02:13:09,480 --> 02:13:12,360
Speaker 2: I think mostly for the same reason a lot of

2524
02:13:12,360 --> 02:13:15,880
Speaker 2: black people don't watch these shows. People don't want to

2525
02:13:16,040 --> 02:13:20,440
Speaker 2: feel uncomfortable, and these things make people feel uncomfortable, and

2526
02:13:20,440 --> 02:13:22,960
Speaker 2: then they work backwards into why these things shouldn't exist

2527
02:13:23,040 --> 02:13:25,480
Speaker 2: or why they're bad or whatever, when a lot of

2528
02:13:25,560 --> 02:13:28,520
Speaker 2: its own insecurity and until we deal with those things

2529
02:13:29,320 --> 02:13:32,120
Speaker 2: We're gonna always put a lot of black creatives who

2530
02:13:32,160 --> 02:13:34,960
Speaker 2: are spending time and money and resources telling these very

2531
02:13:34,960 --> 02:13:37,840
Speaker 2: important stories that they grew up wanting to tell, and

2532
02:13:37,920 --> 02:13:41,400
Speaker 2: now they're villified for existing and vilified for making this art.

2533
02:13:41,720 --> 02:13:44,080
Speaker 2: And yeah, it's not fair. It's a cash twenty two

2534
02:13:44,120 --> 02:13:48,480
Speaker 2: and it definitely is frustrating. But which did I enjoy more?

2535
02:13:48,600 --> 02:13:51,960
Speaker 2: Underground or Underground Railroad? For me personally, Underground Railroad I

2536
02:13:51,960 --> 02:13:56,560
Speaker 2: thought was phenomenal. Misha Green and just did their fucking

2537
02:13:56,560 --> 02:14:03,919
Speaker 2: thing Underground. I thought it was all so good, and

2538
02:14:04,160 --> 02:14:07,720
Speaker 2: uh it was a little more ethereal and kind of

2539
02:14:07,800 --> 02:14:15,680
Speaker 2: jumped all over the place, and you know, uh what,

2540
02:14:16,080 --> 02:14:18,680
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, I do mean it reverse,

2541
02:14:19,240 --> 02:14:24,080
Speaker 2: You're right, Karen Damn Underground, the one with Misha Green,

2542
02:14:24,840 --> 02:14:28,040
Speaker 2: uh directing as a showrunner, that's the one that I

2543
02:14:28,160 --> 02:14:33,000
Speaker 2: like the most. Underground Railroad, while still good, was a

2544
02:14:33,000 --> 02:14:38,600
Speaker 2: little more artsy and ethereal. And and of course Barry

2545
02:14:38,640 --> 02:14:43,240
Speaker 2: Jenkins is still the man. But I found in the

2546
02:14:43,360 --> 02:14:47,200
Speaker 2: TV show the like stare at the person face shots

2547
02:14:47,240 --> 02:14:50,200
Speaker 2: that he does to be like, there was so many

2548
02:14:50,200 --> 02:14:53,840
Speaker 2: of them, you know, but yeah, they were still That's

2549
02:14:53,840 --> 02:14:57,520
Speaker 2: the thing in my opinion. Almost none of these shows

2550
02:14:57,560 --> 02:15:01,840
Speaker 2: about this type of are bad, Almost none of them.

2551
02:15:02,600 --> 02:15:04,800
Speaker 2: To me, it's very hard to make a bad show

2552
02:15:04,840 --> 02:15:08,040
Speaker 2: about these experiences because so many of these stories haven't

2553
02:15:08,080 --> 02:15:10,080
Speaker 2: been told. It's just what do you want to focus on.

2554
02:15:11,520 --> 02:15:13,760
Speaker 2: You also one hundred percent right about obsession with World

2555
02:15:13,800 --> 02:15:16,200
Speaker 2: War two and astronauts. I think the answer is clearly

2556
02:15:16,200 --> 02:15:18,080
Speaker 2: because those are topics that allow white people to be

2557
02:15:18,160 --> 02:15:21,000
Speaker 2: heroes without the tarnish reality of our love of racism

2558
02:15:21,120 --> 02:15:23,840
Speaker 2: spoiling the fantasy. All that said, the series for all

2559
02:15:23,920 --> 02:15:25,800
Speaker 2: Man con and Alternate History of the Space Race on

2560
02:15:25,840 --> 02:15:28,200
Speaker 2: Apple TV is really really amazing. It's about the same

2561
02:15:28,240 --> 02:15:31,200
Speaker 2: guy did battles Star Galactica, so it has a similar feel, plot,

2562
02:15:31,240 --> 02:15:34,280
Speaker 2: twisted action, et cetera, and even confronts issues of racism

2563
02:15:34,320 --> 02:15:36,440
Speaker 2: to it, even to a greater extent sexism in the

2564
02:15:36,440 --> 02:15:40,040
Speaker 2: space program. Pretty well anyway, it looks white as hell,

2565
02:15:40,080 --> 02:15:41,920
Speaker 2: but I think it's still might enjoy it is total

2566
02:15:42,000 --> 02:15:44,520
Speaker 2: bene material, might get to it. I'm not a huge

2567
02:15:44,520 --> 02:15:48,280
Speaker 2: space guy like that, but I do like sci fid

2568
02:15:48,320 --> 02:15:52,000
Speaker 2: I did enjoy Battlestar Galactica. PS Karen, every time you

2569
02:15:52,080 --> 02:15:58,360
Speaker 2: do your I don't know the sign is pbbbbb sht

2570
02:15:58,720 --> 02:16:03,240
Speaker 2: so noise as a reaction, it always cracks me up.

2571
02:16:04,880 --> 02:16:08,160
Speaker 2: It's usually pitch perfect response to whatever fuck's the shit

2572
02:16:08,240 --> 02:16:11,680
Speaker 2: story right, was just finished reading one of those things

2573
02:16:11,720 --> 02:16:14,560
Speaker 2: I couldn't put into words, but I'll know exactly what

2574
02:16:14,600 --> 02:16:17,200
Speaker 2: you mean by I also want to say that your

2575
02:16:17,200 --> 02:16:19,400
Speaker 2: comedic time is such a strong aspect of what makes

2576
02:16:19,400 --> 02:16:21,840
Speaker 2: the show so special. It has been great witnessing the

2577
02:16:21,840 --> 02:16:23,640
Speaker 2: way you've been coming out of your shell and mastering

2578
02:16:23,680 --> 02:16:25,320
Speaker 2: your own skills over the past few years.

2579
02:16:25,480 --> 02:16:26,640
Speaker 3: I've been trying to do better.

2580
02:16:27,520 --> 02:16:29,680
Speaker 2: Thank you for both. Thank you both for another week

2581
02:16:29,720 --> 02:16:32,120
Speaker 2: of great shows here and on three guys off stay

2582
02:16:32,120 --> 02:16:35,920
Speaker 2: safe in these cold streets. Thank you, daniel d ri

2583
02:16:36,120 --> 02:16:40,320
Speaker 2: saying Danielle Deese writes in Unpopular Opinion, Hey, y'all, so

2584
02:16:40,560 --> 02:16:42,720
Speaker 2: rolling my eyes of moje y'all seen the advertisement for

2585
02:16:42,760 --> 02:16:45,320
Speaker 2: the Eternals and the fact that Angelina Jolie stars, and

2586
02:16:45,360 --> 02:16:48,240
Speaker 2: it is annoying me why they had to cast her.

2587
02:16:48,800 --> 02:16:52,280
Speaker 2: Come come on, man, and it seems as if her

2588
02:16:52,360 --> 02:16:55,760
Speaker 2: character is one of the most important Eternals. There is

2589
02:16:55,800 --> 02:16:58,120
Speaker 2: a scene we're her and this other e turn on

2590
02:16:58,160 --> 02:17:00,200
Speaker 2: the cave with this tentacles all around her saying we

2591
02:17:00,240 --> 02:17:03,120
Speaker 2: can't help them and all this shit. They can't just

2592
02:17:03,200 --> 02:17:05,879
Speaker 2: leave her ass in the Disney movies. Damn they couldn't

2593
02:17:05,920 --> 02:17:08,600
Speaker 2: give that role to a sister, or I really would

2594
02:17:08,600 --> 02:17:10,840
Speaker 2: have taken any other white woman or hate even mixed

2595
02:17:10,920 --> 02:17:13,680
Speaker 2: race person, maybe an unknown actress for a change. Oh

2596
02:17:13,720 --> 02:17:16,720
Speaker 2: my bad. Only Tyler Perry does that if I hating?

2597
02:17:17,000 --> 02:17:20,640
Speaker 2: Oh well, just my thoughts now that I think on it.

2598
02:17:20,840 --> 02:17:23,960
Speaker 2: Ever since she stole Jennifer Andis's man always felt away

2599
02:17:24,000 --> 02:17:26,360
Speaker 2: about her, and I blame Brad Pitt too. He was

2600
02:17:26,400 --> 02:17:30,600
Speaker 2: a whole hole. He can't steal something that don't want

2601
02:17:30,640 --> 02:17:33,520
Speaker 2: to be stolen. Anyways, this is the white's issue, So

2602
02:17:33,600 --> 02:17:36,280
Speaker 2: I'll leave it and still watch the movie, of course.

2603
02:17:36,360 --> 02:17:38,720
Speaker 2: Oh do you know if there's gonna be a Captamall

2604
02:17:38,840 --> 02:17:44,000
Speaker 2: part too? There is, and Monica Rambou is getting her

2605
02:17:44,000 --> 02:17:47,280
Speaker 2: own Disney Plus series, Let's Go. I would love to

2606
02:17:47,320 --> 02:17:49,720
Speaker 2: see her travel to other galaxies, get herself in the

2607
02:17:49,840 --> 02:17:53,560
Speaker 2: other aliens business, and fight battles. Love Danielle Deep, thank you,

2608
02:17:53,600 --> 02:17:56,600
Speaker 2: And that's been a moment of unbridled.

2609
02:18:00,600 --> 02:18:03,080
Speaker 3: Hot tag off the Tom Roves. I don't care. I'm

2610
02:18:03,120 --> 02:18:05,880
Speaker 3: like if it's Disney, let's go. I don't have no

2611
02:18:06,160 --> 02:18:07,160
Speaker 3: problem with that woman.

2612
02:18:07,840 --> 02:18:10,520
Speaker 2: There's a new segment on the show. Come on all right,

2613
02:18:11,440 --> 02:18:16,120
Speaker 2: John Gruden has a racist scow. This is from kem dotcistot. Hey,

2614
02:18:16,200 --> 02:18:19,040
Speaker 2: rayon my love. I know you get very light skinned

2615
02:18:19,040 --> 02:18:21,120
Speaker 2: when I don't acknowledge that I love you too, so

2616
02:18:21,280 --> 02:18:26,760
Speaker 2: blam and how caliches my love? All It's about time. Okay,

2617
02:18:26,800 --> 02:18:28,880
Speaker 2: we all know you was just denying the obvious street

2618
02:18:30,080 --> 02:18:33,600
Speaker 2: I hope all is well listening to your episode post

2619
02:18:33,720 --> 02:18:37,160
Speaker 2: yet another Dave Chappelle versus the LGBTQ I play plus

2620
02:18:37,200 --> 02:18:40,360
Speaker 2: community was a freshing I know that's one of your

2621
02:18:40,440 --> 02:18:42,920
Speaker 2: favorite comedians, so I honestly never thought you'd get to

2622
02:18:42,959 --> 02:18:45,160
Speaker 2: that place. But let's face it, I didn't know Day

2623
02:18:45,200 --> 02:18:47,440
Speaker 2: would keep at this, keep it this time and time again.

2624
02:18:47,640 --> 02:18:48,000
Speaker 3: We didn't know.

2625
02:18:49,000 --> 02:18:51,840
Speaker 2: He's definitely the voice for the homophobic and transphobic. People

2626
02:18:51,840 --> 02:18:54,000
Speaker 2: can disagree if they won't, but that's how I feel,

2627
02:18:54,320 --> 02:18:56,760
Speaker 2: and I heard and saw real tangible evidence of it

2628
02:18:56,800 --> 02:18:59,520
Speaker 2: in the days after from black men and black women

2629
02:18:59,560 --> 02:19:03,480
Speaker 2: on Twitter Clubhouse. We haven't actually grown the humanity that

2630
02:19:03,520 --> 02:19:06,560
Speaker 2: black men want to see when they're seeing themselves murder

2631
02:19:06,600 --> 02:19:08,520
Speaker 2: in the streets is the same humanity that black trans

2632
02:19:08,520 --> 02:19:11,320
Speaker 2: community is crying out for. The oppression olympics of it

2633
02:19:11,360 --> 02:19:15,120
Speaker 2: all will not allow a common ground. I've been done

2634
02:19:15,120 --> 02:19:17,680
Speaker 2: with day, but I always say with people I don't

2635
02:19:17,760 --> 02:19:22,480
Speaker 2: bang with, but wish well blessings to all those involved. Yeah, man,

2636
02:19:22,600 --> 02:19:25,600
Speaker 2: I mean I don't feel like I've changed. I feel

2637
02:19:25,640 --> 02:19:29,720
Speaker 2: like Dave, did you know, or maybe we both changed,

2638
02:19:29,720 --> 02:19:33,640
Speaker 2: but to a certain extent, like they they've really leaned

2639
02:19:33,640 --> 02:19:38,119
Speaker 2: into you can't tell me what to do. And I'm

2640
02:19:38,160 --> 02:19:40,520
Speaker 2: not a big fan of that energy when it comes

2641
02:19:40,520 --> 02:19:43,080
Speaker 2: to shit like this, because I don't think what people

2642
02:19:43,120 --> 02:19:46,360
Speaker 2: are asking for is some ridiculous thing, and I think

2643
02:19:46,400 --> 02:19:48,320
Speaker 2: he's going out of his way to be hateful. And

2644
02:19:48,360 --> 02:19:53,720
Speaker 2: I'm sorry if people disagree, but honestly, I just don't

2645
02:19:53,720 --> 02:19:56,280
Speaker 2: see how you watch that and came out feeling like

2646
02:19:56,400 --> 02:20:01,840
Speaker 2: that that wasn't purposely starting a fire, you know what

2647
02:20:01,840 --> 02:20:06,880
Speaker 2: I mean? And so yeah, and look, I'm a black

2648
02:20:06,920 --> 02:20:12,160
Speaker 2: man that I deal with people with these views because

2649
02:20:13,280 --> 02:20:17,000
Speaker 2: I don't even know if I would have any black

2650
02:20:17,080 --> 02:20:21,680
Speaker 2: friends if if they weren't people that had these views

2651
02:20:21,680 --> 02:20:24,800
Speaker 2: that I like, have some hope that they can change

2652
02:20:24,920 --> 02:20:27,280
Speaker 2: because I've seen people change, you know what I'm saying,

2653
02:20:27,360 --> 02:20:30,560
Speaker 2: I've you know, not that I've made them change, but

2654
02:20:30,600 --> 02:20:33,120
Speaker 2: I provided a perspective to make people be like, damn,

2655
02:20:33,160 --> 02:20:35,920
Speaker 2: you know what, man, that's a good point. Hadn't thought

2656
02:20:35,920 --> 02:20:39,520
Speaker 2: of that, you know, I've changed. These perspectives are these

2657
02:20:40,320 --> 02:20:44,119
Speaker 2: experiences were new to me. At some point. I had

2658
02:20:44,160 --> 02:20:47,720
Speaker 2: not heard of trans people and what it means to

2659
02:20:47,879 --> 02:20:51,000
Speaker 2: be a transgender person for a long period of time.

2660
02:20:51,520 --> 02:20:54,360
Speaker 2: You know, I was thirty something when I first started

2661
02:20:54,400 --> 02:20:57,760
Speaker 2: hearing about that. So you know, that's one of the

2662
02:20:57,800 --> 02:21:00,720
Speaker 2: reasons I try to have some hope. But in the

2663
02:21:00,800 --> 02:21:04,039
Speaker 2: same way that I don't think benefit of the doubt

2664
02:21:04,280 --> 02:21:09,800
Speaker 2: should be weaponized to a point that enables folks to

2665
02:21:09,920 --> 02:21:14,600
Speaker 2: be genuinely dangerous when it comes to whiteness. I feel

2666
02:21:14,640 --> 02:21:19,879
Speaker 2: the same way about blackness. Man. At some point, I

2667
02:21:19,920 --> 02:21:23,400
Speaker 2: can't just keep going maybe they'll get it, you know

2668
02:21:23,440 --> 02:21:24,800
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. It's one of the reason I don't

2669
02:21:24,840 --> 02:21:28,720
Speaker 2: think I'm a I'm not really a restorative justice type

2670
02:21:28,720 --> 02:21:31,040
Speaker 2: of person, because at some point that some people, I'm like,

2671
02:21:31,080 --> 02:21:33,080
Speaker 2: I'm not waiting for you to get that it's not

2672
02:21:33,160 --> 02:21:36,160
Speaker 2: okay to keep raping people. I'm not waiting. I'm not

2673
02:21:36,200 --> 02:21:37,880
Speaker 2: waiting for you to get this. You can't just keep

2674
02:21:38,000 --> 02:21:42,400
Speaker 2: killing people, dog, You just have to be somewhere where

2675
02:21:42,440 --> 02:21:46,080
Speaker 2: you're not around other people, right, And I think you know,

2676
02:21:46,560 --> 02:21:49,920
Speaker 2: obviously you can't do that to a comedian. He's hasn't

2677
02:21:49,920 --> 02:21:52,560
Speaker 2: broken the law. But you know, I can at least

2678
02:21:52,640 --> 02:21:58,199
Speaker 2: use our platform to say, nah, this ain't it? Also

2679
02:21:58,240 --> 02:22:00,720
Speaker 2: seeing people? Oh, and then I can imagine how fucking

2680
02:22:00,800 --> 02:22:03,400
Speaker 2: hurtful it's being for trans people to not even be

2681
02:22:03,520 --> 02:22:06,600
Speaker 2: involved in a lot of these discussions. And in addition

2682
02:22:06,680 --> 02:22:11,120
Speaker 2: to not be involved in discussion, it's people saying fucked

2683
02:22:11,160 --> 02:22:13,360
Speaker 2: up shit like it Like, I'm not saying you need

2684
02:22:13,360 --> 02:22:15,840
Speaker 2: to pander and like you know, like cause I do

2685
02:22:15,959 --> 02:22:19,160
Speaker 2: think the pandering and shit is a different type of insulting.

2686
02:22:19,560 --> 02:22:22,120
Speaker 2: So if you ain't one to have been talking about

2687
02:22:22,160 --> 02:22:26,320
Speaker 2: these issues to suddenly step in like I got something

2688
02:22:26,320 --> 02:22:28,600
Speaker 2: to say, it's like, well, did you read anything, did

2689
02:22:28,640 --> 02:22:30,199
Speaker 2: you talk to anyone? You listen to anybody?

2690
02:22:30,280 --> 02:22:31,080
Speaker 3: You like?

2691
02:22:31,360 --> 02:22:32,640
Speaker 2: Where are these thoughts coming from?

2692
02:22:32,959 --> 02:22:33,200
Speaker 4: You know?

2693
02:22:33,840 --> 02:22:35,520
Speaker 2: Because if your thoughts are just I want to save

2694
02:22:35,600 --> 02:22:38,480
Speaker 2: Dave Chappelle's reputation, then you're not thinking about people in

2695
02:22:38,520 --> 02:22:44,920
Speaker 2: it anyway. But it has to be so infuriating to

2696
02:22:45,040 --> 02:22:47,480
Speaker 2: watch these kind of people talk about you when it's

2697
02:22:47,600 --> 02:22:50,760
Speaker 2: honest to god, you already know they bigt it. I

2698
02:22:50,879 --> 02:22:54,879
Speaker 2: just won't be left alone. What is my life like? Uninterrupted?

2699
02:22:54,920 --> 02:22:57,760
Speaker 2: That's what I want to know. What's my life like?

2700
02:22:58,120 --> 02:23:01,400
Speaker 2: Without you talking shit? Cause I mean I would imagine

2701
02:23:01,560 --> 02:23:04,480
Speaker 2: not because they should be, but behind it because of

2702
02:23:04,640 --> 02:23:07,920
Speaker 2: what life requires of a lot of people who are

2703
02:23:08,400 --> 02:23:14,680
Speaker 2: openly or even you know, secretly quote unquote trans not

2704
02:23:14,879 --> 02:23:19,360
Speaker 2: the quote nquote around secretly, I would imagine they have

2705
02:23:19,440 --> 02:23:22,400
Speaker 2: to be tough, not because I want them to be,

2706
02:23:22,520 --> 02:23:26,440
Speaker 2: notause but like life demands that I don't get to

2707
02:23:26,600 --> 02:23:30,600
Speaker 2: be kind of wishy washy about it. You know I don't.

2708
02:23:30,840 --> 02:23:33,920
Speaker 2: Life won't let me be fragile. Life won't let me

2709
02:23:34,560 --> 02:23:37,120
Speaker 2: break all the way down because I can't promise there's

2710
02:23:37,120 --> 02:23:40,320
Speaker 2: a safety net that will catch me. So I guarantee

2711
02:23:40,360 --> 02:23:43,880
Speaker 2: you you know when that there's no joke he made.

2712
02:23:43,920 --> 02:23:47,200
Speaker 2: They haven't heard. There's no statement he said there was

2713
02:23:47,240 --> 02:23:50,199
Speaker 2: like some revelatory like, oh, they never said it this way.

2714
02:23:50,879 --> 02:23:54,120
Speaker 2: Like all that shit to them is just like can't

2715
02:23:54,120 --> 02:23:57,240
Speaker 2: you leave me out of it? Like I know, I

2716
02:23:57,280 --> 02:23:59,800
Speaker 2: can't make you change your heart. But like a lot

2717
02:23:59,840 --> 02:24:02,120
Speaker 2: of people ain't looking for a change of heart. They

2718
02:24:02,200 --> 02:24:05,199
Speaker 2: looking for like, let me make my coins and leave

2719
02:24:05,320 --> 02:24:09,240
Speaker 2: me the fuck out of this. I don't needn't. I'm

2720
02:24:09,240 --> 02:24:11,640
Speaker 2: not in your life. And I and even the people

2721
02:24:11,640 --> 02:24:14,640
Speaker 2: that are stoking the fires and going back and forth

2722
02:24:14,680 --> 02:24:18,320
Speaker 2: and writing the things piece and even those people don't

2723
02:24:18,440 --> 02:24:21,040
Speaker 2: really care about me in that type of way because

2724
02:24:21,040 --> 02:24:23,560
Speaker 2: a lot of them are using this for their game.

2725
02:24:23,600 --> 02:24:27,480
Speaker 2: It's it's how does it make me look good? You know?

2726
02:24:27,600 --> 02:24:29,840
Speaker 2: And that's something I try to express when I you know,

2727
02:24:29,879 --> 02:24:32,320
Speaker 2: when I started that whole thing about the Chappelle thing

2728
02:24:32,440 --> 02:24:36,879
Speaker 2: was this is not just me going I'm a better

2729
02:24:36,959 --> 02:24:39,600
Speaker 2: black man than these other black men, because honestly, there's

2730
02:24:39,640 --> 02:24:42,440
Speaker 2: no value in that. I just think a lot of

2731
02:24:42,440 --> 02:24:44,760
Speaker 2: people are doing fucked up shit and they don't need

2732
02:24:44,840 --> 02:24:48,480
Speaker 2: to be. And it would to me if we didn't

2733
02:24:48,520 --> 02:24:52,560
Speaker 2: say something or we gave up past because oh man,

2734
02:24:52,640 --> 02:24:55,640
Speaker 2: it's my favorite comedian, then how then what kind of

2735
02:24:55,640 --> 02:24:58,920
Speaker 2: person am I really? Am? I really? You know what

2736
02:24:58,920 --> 02:25:01,600
Speaker 2: I'm saying, like, oh what he did it? Then well

2737
02:25:01,920 --> 02:25:04,000
Speaker 2: that's a different type of transphobia.

2738
02:25:03,600 --> 02:25:07,359
Speaker 3: Like no, man, just don't do it, and it's.

2739
02:25:07,320 --> 02:25:09,440
Speaker 2: A shame on the people that know better than to

2740
02:25:09,480 --> 02:25:13,039
Speaker 2: do that shit than fucking selves, especially comedians that know

2741
02:25:13,080 --> 02:25:15,040
Speaker 2: they wouldn't get on stage to say that dumb shit,

2742
02:25:15,560 --> 02:25:19,520
Speaker 2: and then they'll defend it because of who he is

2743
02:25:19,520 --> 02:25:22,360
Speaker 2: in his social capital. That is so fucking disgusting.

2744
02:25:22,440 --> 02:25:24,960
Speaker 3: Man, I wouldn't do it myself with them. Why are

2745
02:25:24,959 --> 02:25:26,320
Speaker 3: you standing here talking to me?

2746
02:25:26,720 --> 02:25:30,600
Speaker 2: Have some integrity, dog like, it's not this isn't about

2747
02:25:30,680 --> 02:25:33,360
Speaker 2: freedom of speech, knowing the government's not gonna lock him up.

2748
02:25:33,640 --> 02:25:35,920
Speaker 2: But you can't say I don't do those jokes because

2749
02:25:35,959 --> 02:25:38,800
Speaker 2: I find him to be tasteless. Now he has every

2750
02:25:38,879 --> 02:25:42,000
Speaker 2: right to do him. I can't stop him, but I

2751
02:25:42,000 --> 02:25:45,240
Speaker 2: don't have to co sign them, but these motherfuckers co sign.

2752
02:25:45,320 --> 02:25:48,120
Speaker 2: And I hope everyone taking notice, doll, I really do,

2753
02:25:48,640 --> 02:25:51,480
Speaker 2: because when people say shit like transphobia isn't real, it's

2754
02:25:51,480 --> 02:25:54,320
Speaker 2: not a big dealer. White people got privilege, and that's

2755
02:25:54,400 --> 02:25:57,760
Speaker 2: just trans trans being Transit just white privilege. I hope

2756
02:25:57,760 --> 02:26:01,080
Speaker 2: people look at the people talking and they look at

2757
02:26:01,080 --> 02:26:04,480
Speaker 2: what they're saying, and they look at how unabashedly and

2758
02:26:04,560 --> 02:26:10,040
Speaker 2: unashamed they are just front street saying this shit, and

2759
02:26:10,080 --> 02:26:12,480
Speaker 2: then be having a nerd how they feelings hurt when

2760
02:26:12,560 --> 02:26:15,560
Speaker 2: John Gruden say some shit, or how they feelings hurt

2761
02:26:15,840 --> 02:26:20,200
Speaker 2: when you brought up someone gets shot or something like that,

2762
02:26:20,320 --> 02:26:23,640
Speaker 2: all of a sudden they feelings hurt. But as soon

2763
02:26:23,640 --> 02:26:26,800
Speaker 2: as the trans person gets killed. This, Uh, she must

2764
02:26:26,840 --> 02:26:29,720
Speaker 2: have been lying, and that's why you shouldn't be you know,

2765
02:26:29,920 --> 02:26:32,760
Speaker 2: like that kind of shit. So no benefit of the

2766
02:26:32,800 --> 02:26:38,240
Speaker 2: doubt there anyway. Also, seeing people turn their tide on

2767
02:26:38,320 --> 02:26:40,480
Speaker 2: Kim k is always fascinating, never seeing anything like it,

2768
02:26:40,600 --> 02:26:43,160
Speaker 2: very interesting. She essentially read off what I assume though

2769
02:26:43,160 --> 02:26:45,680
Speaker 2: Michael Chase jokes for her on her family for last,

2770
02:26:45,800 --> 02:26:48,240
Speaker 2: and people thought it was so funny. But if I

2771
02:26:48,280 --> 02:26:50,600
Speaker 2: were her sisters and not wrapped up in Hollywood shit,

2772
02:26:50,720 --> 02:26:53,040
Speaker 2: I'd be like down, some of that shit is fed up.

2773
02:26:53,080 --> 02:26:55,080
Speaker 2: I guess I'll lead the comedy critiques to those less

2774
02:26:55,080 --> 02:26:58,040
Speaker 2: cynical about the genres than I am. Yeah, I haven't.

2775
02:26:58,080 --> 02:26:59,960
Speaker 2: I haven't seen her my alloted, but I heard good things,

2776
02:27:00,080 --> 02:27:02,560
Speaker 2: and what I would imagine a lot of people are

2777
02:27:02,640 --> 02:27:05,200
Speaker 2: just uh, first of all, that's what that job is.

2778
02:27:06,560 --> 02:27:08,600
Speaker 2: All those celebrities that go on there and just read

2779
02:27:08,640 --> 02:27:11,720
Speaker 2: the scripts. All of them do it, so even when

2780
02:27:11,720 --> 02:27:14,800
Speaker 2: it is a comedian, the job is just let go

2781
02:27:14,879 --> 02:27:18,040
Speaker 2: say something that makes people like you. And for her,

2782
02:27:18,440 --> 02:27:21,360
Speaker 2: I think if I was writing for her, I would

2783
02:27:21,400 --> 02:27:24,400
Speaker 2: have her go up there and write some jokes that

2784
02:27:24,480 --> 02:27:27,720
Speaker 2: basically roast her and her family because people don't like them.

2785
02:27:27,760 --> 02:27:30,360
Speaker 3: And that's what people do online every single mother fucking day.

2786
02:27:30,480 --> 02:27:32,959
Speaker 2: And it shows a little bit of humility and a

2787
02:27:33,000 --> 02:27:36,160
Speaker 2: willingness to laugh at yourself and people will soften on you.

2788
02:27:36,240 --> 02:27:39,959
Speaker 2: It's a classic comedic thing, uh, And it's and it's

2789
02:27:40,000 --> 02:27:45,320
Speaker 2: effective because it works. And also, I'm not invested in

2790
02:27:45,360 --> 02:27:48,160
Speaker 2: hating Kim k And I'm purposely not invested in it

2791
02:27:48,200 --> 02:27:49,880
Speaker 2: because I really think it's a waste of time.

2792
02:27:50,120 --> 02:27:52,760
Speaker 3: Yes, and I do.

2793
02:27:52,600 --> 02:27:56,200
Speaker 2: Find her to be less harmful than a lot of

2794
02:27:56,240 --> 02:28:01,080
Speaker 2: people that that basically get get the slide, you know.

2795
02:28:01,200 --> 02:28:04,959
Speaker 2: And and it's really hard to divorce the misogyny from

2796
02:28:05,040 --> 02:28:07,560
Speaker 2: the critique of that family because a large part of

2797
02:28:07,600 --> 02:28:11,440
Speaker 2: that isn't just the racial critique that a lot of

2798
02:28:11,480 --> 02:28:13,320
Speaker 2: black women have. A large part of that is just

2799
02:28:13,440 --> 02:28:16,600
Speaker 2: men being like, how dare these bitches be on my TV?

2800
02:28:16,760 --> 02:28:20,600
Speaker 2: Making money and fucking niggers? And they just won't come

2801
02:28:20,600 --> 02:28:22,440
Speaker 2: out and say that but you can see the venom

2802
02:28:22,440 --> 02:28:25,240
Speaker 2: and the ventri all, and I'm like, I'm not vesting

2803
02:28:25,280 --> 02:28:27,400
Speaker 2: from all that shit. Y'all go fight it out. But

2804
02:28:29,080 --> 02:28:31,520
Speaker 2: for my own blood pressures, I don't. I don't need

2805
02:28:31,520 --> 02:28:33,840
Speaker 2: to be turning on my TV and getting in the

2806
02:28:33,920 --> 02:28:35,199
Speaker 2: hackles every time I see him.

2807
02:28:35,360 --> 02:28:37,360
Speaker 3: About somebody that will never meet and do not know.

2808
02:28:38,160 --> 02:28:43,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I don't care that much. And like I said,

2809
02:28:43,959 --> 02:28:48,400
Speaker 2: there are people out here that clearly are much worse people.

2810
02:28:49,280 --> 02:28:52,039
Speaker 2: John Gruden may not have racist teeth, but he has

2811
02:28:52,120 --> 02:28:55,720
Speaker 2: white overseer on horseback scal if that makes sense. He

2812
02:28:55,760 --> 02:28:59,240
Speaker 2: does like he gives the black players of police pat

2813
02:28:59,480 --> 02:29:02,840
Speaker 2: that case that shoulder end. And where God where John

2814
02:29:02,879 --> 02:29:05,039
Speaker 2: Gruden emails? Because you know he's the source of a

2815
02:29:05,040 --> 02:29:07,680
Speaker 2: lot of this. Think about the access you have when oh,

2816
02:29:07,760 --> 02:29:09,800
Speaker 2: Jay Gruden's emails. Yeah, think about the access you have

2817
02:29:09,879 --> 02:29:12,000
Speaker 2: when your brother is the coach and you're the famous

2818
02:29:12,000 --> 02:29:15,560
Speaker 2: Monday not football boys discussing as fuck. Yeah, because you

2819
02:29:15,600 --> 02:29:20,080
Speaker 2: gotta remember, he had naked pictures of Washington cheerleaders. Where

2820
02:29:20,160 --> 02:29:23,879
Speaker 2: would John Where would John Gruden get those from his

2821
02:29:24,000 --> 02:29:26,320
Speaker 2: brother's the coach of the Washington football team at the time.

2822
02:29:26,879 --> 02:29:30,320
Speaker 2: Where are they getting those private pictures from but hey,

2823
02:29:30,440 --> 02:29:33,359
Speaker 2: NFL said nothing else to see her as a palotquans

2824
02:29:33,400 --> 02:29:35,920
Speaker 2: to check out this woman's review of Shade of the

2825
02:29:35,959 --> 02:29:45,240
Speaker 2: Shade Butters. It's amazing. It's an Instagram video. Uh all right,

2826
02:29:45,280 --> 02:29:49,800
Speaker 2: it's like two minutes long. Uh sure, we've already been

2827
02:29:49,840 --> 02:29:51,920
Speaker 2: going for a while. Might as well wrap up on

2828
02:29:51,959 --> 02:29:55,039
Speaker 2: something positive. Let's check out Christy too real.

2829
02:29:55,720 --> 02:29:58,720
Speaker 1: Uh we had on my comments saying anything I don't

2830
02:29:58,720 --> 02:30:00,920
Speaker 1: want to hear. Keep pissing up Lynesian sauce and lead

2831
02:30:00,920 --> 02:30:03,560
Speaker 1: your COOCHI smell like greyhound bussies. I don't care what.

2832
02:30:03,520 --> 02:30:05,360
Speaker 3: You do that this sea ass moves meat.

2833
02:30:06,000 --> 02:30:09,800
Speaker 1: Okay, come on out, baby, if you want to get

2834
02:30:09,959 --> 02:30:11,640
Speaker 1: nasty like burger keen chicken nuggets.

2835
02:30:11,680 --> 02:30:15,080
Speaker 3: Baby, this is the combination for you. Baby.

2836
02:30:15,480 --> 02:30:18,000
Speaker 1: I wore this body butter down there in Miami, and Baby,

2837
02:30:18,000 --> 02:30:19,720
Speaker 1: when I tell you I wrong, all the niggas to

2838
02:30:19,760 --> 02:30:21,720
Speaker 1: the yard. Everybody was asking me what the hell I

2839
02:30:21,760 --> 02:30:23,120
Speaker 1: had on look at my jar.

2840
02:30:24,520 --> 02:30:26,199
Speaker 3: I was knuckles deep in this yard.

2841
02:30:26,280 --> 02:30:29,840
Speaker 1: Baby, already about sixtees six of both of these items

2842
02:30:29,879 --> 02:30:32,280
Speaker 1: before y'all buy them all, Little baby, I wasn't gonna

2843
02:30:32,280 --> 02:30:33,000
Speaker 1: tell y'all my secret.

2844
02:30:33,040 --> 02:30:34,840
Speaker 3: But Baby, I'm gonna let y'all have it.

2845
02:30:35,120 --> 02:30:39,680
Speaker 1: But y'all, this combination right here, this soap in this

2846
02:30:39,720 --> 02:30:43,160
Speaker 1: body butter, Baby, I got in the bedroom and rolled

2847
02:30:43,160 --> 02:30:46,959
Speaker 1: that nigga like a horse in a Kentucky Derby wild

2848
02:30:47,080 --> 02:30:49,560
Speaker 1: Spanish horses in there, and I'm talking about horses that's

2849
02:30:49,600 --> 02:30:50,920
Speaker 1: been bred.

2850
02:30:50,680 --> 02:30:53,080
Speaker 3: And raised up in the state of New Mexico. Baby.

2851
02:30:54,280 --> 02:30:59,600
Speaker 1: Wow, yes, ma'am. This soap it's called Galaxy Sguies, but

2852
02:30:59,640 --> 02:31:02,000
Speaker 1: baby need to be called Galaxy Thighs because baby put

2853
02:31:02,000 --> 02:31:06,320
Speaker 1: the universe in my coolar cat. Honey, I ain't had

2854
02:31:06,320 --> 02:31:08,119
Speaker 1: to have a talk a pep talp with my coochie.

2855
02:31:08,160 --> 02:31:09,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, since I've been using this.

2856
02:31:10,280 --> 02:31:14,280
Speaker 1: Y'all, it was so good, I went about the rest.

2857
02:31:14,560 --> 02:31:18,320
Speaker 1: I went and bought the damn body scrub after that. Baby, y'all,

2858
02:31:20,720 --> 02:31:23,120
Speaker 1: this stuff had me in Miami glazed up like a

2859
02:31:23,959 --> 02:31:26,960
Speaker 1: ghetto christmah cree donut that's in the hood they got

2860
02:31:27,120 --> 02:31:31,080
Speaker 1: signed on. I'm telling you for the ones. I always

2861
02:31:31,080 --> 02:31:34,160
Speaker 1: buy Africa's Miracle hair stuff. But Baby, I ain't never

2862
02:31:34,240 --> 02:31:38,400
Speaker 1: thought to really buy this, But I had this witness

2863
02:31:38,440 --> 02:31:38,720
Speaker 1: when I.

2864
02:31:38,640 --> 02:31:39,880
Speaker 3: Was in Miami. I was like, I'm gonna give it

2865
02:31:39,920 --> 02:31:44,040
Speaker 3: the truck, baby, do it by.

2866
02:31:44,800 --> 02:31:48,080
Speaker 1: Don't buy all of them, save me some, but baby,

2867
02:31:49,640 --> 02:31:50,240
Speaker 1: and I got.

2868
02:31:50,040 --> 02:31:51,160
Speaker 3: To buy the scrub y'all.

2869
02:31:52,200 --> 02:31:53,800
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I got two of these. One of

2870
02:31:53,840 --> 02:32:00,320
Speaker 1: them just rolled on to a baby Africa's miracle. He's

2871
02:32:00,360 --> 02:32:04,840
Speaker 1: told me, who are y'all coming out?

2872
02:32:04,920 --> 02:32:05,520
Speaker 3: Thank me later.

2873
02:32:05,600 --> 02:32:08,240
Speaker 1: If y'all already onto this, if y'all been put onto this,

2874
02:32:08,760 --> 02:32:10,879
Speaker 1: coming down low, tell.

2875
02:32:10,760 --> 02:32:12,840
Speaker 3: Me what did And they say, if you da have

2876
02:32:12,959 --> 02:32:15,959
Speaker 3: a little of this on yo, mean.

2877
02:32:17,720 --> 02:32:31,199
Speaker 2: Mm hm coming out? What a glory if you apparently glowing, shimmering, shining,

2878
02:32:32,040 --> 02:32:37,240
Speaker 2: sparkling something black women, many everything, dog, that's hilarious. You're

2879
02:32:37,240 --> 02:32:41,960
Speaker 2: not loving. And then lastly, uh, in the middle, we

2880
02:32:42,080 --> 02:32:46,480
Speaker 2: got something. I mean, open this up like it's been taped,

2881
02:32:46,520 --> 02:32:51,039
Speaker 2: and I got, oh, we got some cars and papers

2882
02:32:51,080 --> 02:32:56,640
Speaker 2: in here all right, envelope. Oh I know what this is, yeah,

2883
02:32:58,840 --> 02:33:01,879
Speaker 2: Lady Kate said, sending this note to request a sticker

2884
02:33:01,959 --> 02:33:05,320
Speaker 2: from the live show attended virtually. I had a great time.

2885
02:33:05,440 --> 02:33:07,600
Speaker 2: Ran Dof and Andy were funny as fuck telling them,

2886
02:33:08,080 --> 02:33:12,400
Speaker 2: I said, so justin the problematic fade was on point

2887
02:33:12,400 --> 02:33:14,600
Speaker 2: as always, And of course you two are the ghost

2888
02:33:14,600 --> 02:33:18,040
Speaker 2: of podcasts and now go be great. Ria had belated

2889
02:33:18,080 --> 02:33:23,800
Speaker 2: b day. Here's a five off of pumpkin Uh pumpkin

2890
02:33:24,120 --> 02:33:29,480
Speaker 2: lattic focus focus flight slat he thank you. Yeah. So,

2891
02:33:29,480 --> 02:33:31,640
Speaker 2: she had emailed me because she wanted some stickers from

2892
02:33:31,640 --> 02:33:34,280
Speaker 2: the live show because she couldn't be there, and we

2893
02:33:34,320 --> 02:33:36,480
Speaker 2: still had those posters, and like I said, I think

2894
02:33:36,480 --> 02:33:38,199
Speaker 2: we're gonna do a game show and give them away

2895
02:33:38,240 --> 02:33:41,360
Speaker 2: to y'all. We're just working on the legistions of that.

2896
02:33:41,800 --> 02:33:43,680
Speaker 2: But so I said, if you want the stickers, to

2897
02:33:43,760 --> 02:33:46,440
Speaker 2: send me a self addressed stepped envelope and I'll throw

2898
02:33:46,480 --> 02:33:48,640
Speaker 2: some stickers in there and send it back to you.

2899
02:33:48,720 --> 02:33:50,880
Speaker 2: And I'll put that offer out to anybody. If y'all

2900
02:33:51,280 --> 02:33:55,400
Speaker 2: send a self addressed, uh stepped envelope and uh y'all

2901
02:33:55,440 --> 02:33:59,120
Speaker 2: want some some some stickers, I throw a couple of

2902
02:33:59,120 --> 02:34:00,800
Speaker 2: stickers in there and put it in the mail for

2903
02:34:00,840 --> 02:34:03,120
Speaker 2: you and hook you up. So and you don't have

2904
02:34:03,160 --> 02:34:05,440
Speaker 2: to send the five dollars. It's optional. You know, I'll

2905
02:34:05,440 --> 02:34:08,320
Speaker 2: take it, obviously, because this punk is spite tak one

2906
02:34:08,320 --> 02:34:18,119
Speaker 2: by itself. Okay, put a little damn but yeah. So

2907
02:34:18,160 --> 02:34:24,800
Speaker 2: tomorrow's guest is Howard Bryant, which should be a good time.

2908
02:34:24,920 --> 02:34:29,440
Speaker 2: Y'all might know him from ESPN and metal Ark Media,

2909
02:34:29,879 --> 02:34:32,640
Speaker 2: and I've been reading from his book on the show

2910
02:34:32,680 --> 02:34:38,000
Speaker 2: sometimes Full Dissident. He wrote that, So he'll be here tomorrow.

2911
02:34:38,640 --> 02:34:46,840
Speaker 2: Tuesday will at noon in Eastern time, and then Tuesday

2912
02:34:47,640 --> 02:34:52,760
Speaker 2: we'll have Mike Kaplan on the show, and then the

2913
02:34:52,840 --> 02:34:56,280
Speaker 2: twenty fourth will have Remember when we talked to those

2914
02:34:56,280 --> 02:35:02,160
Speaker 2: black women from overseas, he is about voting. They're coming back.

2915
02:35:02,200 --> 02:35:04,600
Speaker 2: They got a new podcast called Black Women in Europe.

2916
02:35:04,840 --> 02:35:06,600
Speaker 3: Let's go Black Women in Europe.

2917
02:35:06,800 --> 02:35:12,040
Speaker 2: And then next Tuesday we have Drunk Black History. And

2918
02:35:12,080 --> 02:35:15,680
Speaker 2: then Wednesday we have Jess Wood. So we got we

2919
02:35:15,760 --> 02:35:18,360
Speaker 2: got some good guests coming up, y'all. So we hope

2920
02:35:18,440 --> 02:35:22,879
Speaker 2: y'all are are as enthusiastic about that as we are.

2921
02:35:22,959 --> 02:35:26,440
Speaker 2: I can't wait to talk to all these people until

2922
02:35:26,879 --> 02:35:28,760
Speaker 2: next time. It was long but fun.

2923
02:35:29,879 --> 02:35:31,280
Speaker 3: I love you.

2924
02:35:31,280 --> 02:35:31,520
Speaker 2: Why