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Speaker 4: Well, your play.

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Speaker 3: I'm not a player, but I guess no.

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Speaker 5: Okay, that was one of the most genuinely funny things.

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Speaker 3: You've ever said.

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Speaker 6: What say, togain true down the bottom of the league

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Speaker 6: against pressure, but also up near the top of the

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: I thought you're going with some positive deve portnoy.

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Speaker 3: I loved him. Yeah, on board, Yeah, he's on board.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but this type of inspect to win him over.

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Speaker 3: Mike and d Oc. I love to get the panels

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Speaker 3: grades of the Patriots. Well, I give it an egg.

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Speaker 3: Imagine it with just a sick visor though, like would

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Speaker 3: go hard. That's that's what they say. That would be fire,

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Speaker 3: that goes hard. That word from Nelson to your your

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Speaker 3: rolodex stripping Paul Tripp before you were even born.

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Speaker 5: He's not lying.

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Speaker 3: Patriots unfiltered. It is Tuesday here at Jiltt Stadium. But

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Speaker 3: more importantly, we are back to three days a week.

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Speaker 3: This is opening week, Week one Raiders on Sunday. We

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Speaker 3: are excited. I mean, if nothing else, going back to

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Speaker 3: three days a week, something to something to celebrate. There

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Speaker 3: you go, that's the big news. I swee yeah, jacked out. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: boys all jacked up on mountain dew. So this is it.

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Speaker 3: This is show one of the regular season, Show one

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Speaker 3: week one Raiders.

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Speaker 5: We are what do we do?

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Speaker 4: I feel like we need some fanfare.

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Speaker 3: I went well as.

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Speaker 5: A matter of fan man.

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Speaker 3: We have a new song, Matt, I don't know you had.

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Speaker 3: It's so cute up now giving okay, go ahead.

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Speaker 7: Hey it's a Brando hope you season don't look it up.

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Speaker 7: But pauls pretty slim. We haven't tied the Knockduce gott

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Speaker 7: a dug. It's trying to find someone to mowys nod

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Speaker 7: and Alex is just reading the stars. Alex is just

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Speaker 7: reading the stars.

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Speaker 2: We've got a.

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Speaker 8: New house for pretty and post game shows, bets in

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Speaker 7: We're all pretty stoked about Fable and mag.

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Speaker 2: And everybody still hating no Christian.

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Speaker 9: Hey, it's a brand. Hope you season the pass. We

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Speaker 2: We're already for three shows the week. It's been too long.

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Speaker 2: And I hope I get a T shirt for writing

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Speaker 2: this song.

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Speaker 3: All right, very well done, what a way to kick

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Speaker 5: Very well.

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Speaker 4: I was seeing a music video, you know where there's

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Speaker 4: like a lot of like you turn to the camera

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Speaker 4: and smile, you know, like Paul Perilla, right and Evan

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Speaker 4: Lazar and introducing flipping it to each other.

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Speaker 10: Right, she never disappointed?

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Speaker 5: Good stuff, Alex is uh, looking at.

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Speaker 11: That?

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Speaker 10: Seems so Matt.

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Speaker 3: I do think we need to send her a T shirt, Absolutely,

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Speaker 3: no doubt about it. You contribute that.

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Speaker 5: Way, she can get that by the end of the season.

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Speaker 3: Earn yourself effort please. All right, Well, anyway, it's Evan,

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Speaker 3: it's it's me, it's Matt and the booth, and we're

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Speaker 3: talking Patriots. Any news that we want to get out

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Speaker 3: of the way other than you went to see going

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Speaker 5: I mean, there's some Patriots news that we haven't discussed

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Speaker 3: Shows right quite a bit. Let's get right into.

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Speaker 5: A significant transaction. I would say, late last week brill Peppers. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I was surprised. I mean, listen, as of last week,

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Speaker 4: He's been around for a while, he's more a veteran.

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Speaker 4: My feeling is, Douger ain't really gonna play well.

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Speaker 5: You hope that Kyle Dugger was.

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Speaker 4: Gonna they couldn't get enough of those guys they're drafting

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Speaker 4: So you know, I know there's a baseline talent that

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Speaker 3: We talked about the front being more aggressive than it has,

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Speaker 3: I think that's all part of it. And then I

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Speaker 10: Yeah, that's where I'm at with it.

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Speaker 6: I think they had two guys that they saw as redundant,

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Speaker 6: even though verybel kind of downplayed it along amongst other

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Speaker 10: He downplayed all those things.

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Speaker 6: But if you have Jabriel Peppers as a fourth string safety,

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Speaker 6: this guy is getting paid pretty well, has been a

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Speaker 6: It's hard to have that person in your locker room

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I just think Rabel's really done a lot of

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Speaker 5: Okay, as long as we're going to take it seriously,

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Speaker 3: Am, I mean like like, I think you're right.

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Speaker 5: I think there's certain In my view, there are maybe

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Speaker 10: Right, I didn't want to name names, but the.

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Speaker 5: You know that they named the captains. Marcus Jones was

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Speaker 3: Correct the future.

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Speaker 5: I actually liked his answers.

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Speaker 6: But it then to me like it's a little contradictory though,

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Speaker 5: He doesn't look at it in with his eighth year

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Speaker 3: But to deuce his question, but if them long to

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Speaker 6: They want them to cover the deep part of the field.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, like I wouldn't have done this.

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Speaker 6: But at the same time, for multiple years we've talked

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, So Paul, you mentioned captains. They announced

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and the game captain too, which I didn't I

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Speaker 10: So I assume that's going to rotate.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, because normally Rabel named seven captains in Tennessee. So

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so he mentioned, you know, Chase On played with

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Speaker 4: Blaine too, I mean they were, yeah, both those guys.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he's a serious guy. Well, all those guys

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Speaker 4: I think what Thursday, I think to the media tomorrow, Marow.

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Speaker 3: Let's just hope that these captains have a better help

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Speaker 5: Man, Yeah, because if these.

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Speaker 3: A little bit. Yeah. Other news, Forge and Foxboro episode

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Speaker 3: Mike Rabel got some I never I didn't even know

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Speaker 10: Things like that, So that was Paul's highlight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, unprecedented access Forge of Foxbrow episode three on YouTube.

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Speaker 3: Go check it out. Perfect viewing to get you ready

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Speaker 10: This is my favorite one out of the three.

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Speaker 6: feels with like Chism and Elijah Ponder making the team.

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Speaker 10: I was really I was into this one was a

441
00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:57,200
Speaker 10: good one, good stuff.

442
00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:58,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I was too.

443
00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,320
Speaker 4: I just I watched it while I was the Kate

444
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 4: this weekend, and it's just remarkable that it's like a

445
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 4: full on Hard Knocks episode, you know, like like that's

446
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 4: always like what the standard was for the summer and

447
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,520
Speaker 4: now teams and we're not the only ones doing it either,

448
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,639
Speaker 4: but you know, teams are able to just produce produce

449
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,880
Speaker 4: his content. I think it's great for the fans. Love

450
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 4: getting to see behind the scenes Jim Whalen, you know,

451
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 4: highlighting all the medical advances that we have here and

452
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,679
Speaker 4: not only Foxboro but obviously in Boston as well. So

453
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:25,680
Speaker 4: I thought that was a good angle.

454
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:26,560
Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever heard.

455
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 4: Jim Whalen actually speak before. This is one of the

456
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 4: first times that really.

457
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,440
Speaker 3: It's funny because like I when I listened to Jim

458
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 3: whale and talk, I detected Bill Belichick when he said,

459
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,439
Speaker 3: you know, by two thirty, we can we can know

460
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 3: what you know, Like that's I could hear that coming

461
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 3: out of Bill's Bill's mouth, you know, middle you know,

462
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 3: you work with a guy for all that time, you're

463
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,440
Speaker 3: going to pick up on things.

464
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 10: Jim's a really nice guy. You've talk before, We've talked

465
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,440
Speaker 10: to him injured, We've talked to him at the coured.

466
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 3: No, I didn't talk.

467
00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 10: To in the air.

468
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,720
Speaker 4: I don't get the oh he was there. I don't

469
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,359
Speaker 4: think it was to me.

470
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 3: You're still get a pretzel.

471
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 10: Nice guy, yes, really nice guy.

472
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 5: Yeah.

473
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,120
Speaker 6: I always like seeing him on the plane back from

474
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 6: the combine. Combine, but he's he's in first class and

475
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,119
Speaker 6: I'm you know, going back.

476
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 5: There, sage.

477
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

478
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's such an interesting job to me, Like if

479
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,680
Speaker 4: you're just not that you're waiting for guys to get hurt.

480
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 4: I know there's elements of rehab and stuff, but it's

481
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 4: just got to be hard to Like a normal doctor

482
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 4: has a bunch of patients and sometimes people come in

483
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 4: and get sick and get hurt whatever, but like he

484
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 4: has like he's like a shepherd for like fifty three

485
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,479
Speaker 4: dudes or even I mean more I guess, you know,

486
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 4: sixty five dudes, whatever it might be, And at any moment,

487
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 4: one of these guys could have a major injury, and

488
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:39,919
Speaker 4: he knows he's going to be there and have to

489
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 4: take care of these guys. Just such a unique position,

490
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 4: especially for how long has he done it.

491
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 3: I mean he's been here forever, right, yeah, one time.

492
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

493
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Speaker 6: I think it's cool to see too, Like the all

494
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 6: the preventative care that goes in, like the taping and

495
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,639
Speaker 6: like all that stuff that goes into try to to

496
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 6: get them even ready for practice. The amount of guys

497
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 6: like going to that tape to get then they're.

498
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 3: Just there, go to the moon and back, Paul, the

499
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,120
Speaker 3: amount of tape that they the offensive.

500
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 6: I'm always tape their hands right like, So it's just

501
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 6: all that stuff goes on before they even hit the

502
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:15,679
Speaker 6: practice bags.

503
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 4: A lot of ice bags, a lot of ice ice machines.

504
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 3: All right, what else? So we got what else? Pepper's

505
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 3: We've got Captain.

506
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 4: A couple of things for I just to throw out there.

507
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 4: A couple of interesting nuggets from from Ural Peldus. I

508
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 4: just thought it was interesting. They've they've added three defensive linemen,

509
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 4: two pactor squad guys Fabian love At, Corey Durden and

510
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 4: as well as Eric Gregory who's a rookie a little

511
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 4: bit bigger guy as well as yesterday, added Brendan James,

512
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 4: the centers silent Jay I like that, but those to

513
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 4: me indicate maybe some positions where they feel like they

514
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 4: need a little more. I had said last show, Oh,

515
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 4: it's interesting they've kept all these undrafted guys that they

516
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 4: have and those a lot of those guys are gone

517
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 4: now they're down to, you know, two guys they drafted

518
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,120
Speaker 4: and four guys that were undrafted rookies, and otherwise they

519
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 4: brought in a bunch of veterans. So I just wonder,

520
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 4: if you know Himus or you know this guy Eric

521
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 4: Gregory who's got a little more size, and we talked

522
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 4: about some of the run defense stuff, if maybe some

523
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 4: of these guys are more like their guys or you know,

524
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:22,919
Speaker 4: it's just it's adding some depth you might not expect,

525
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 4: and suddenly we might get into the game of people

526
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 4: are gonna who's fifty five on the defensive line and

527
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:27,120
Speaker 4: this guy this will?

528
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:27,919
Speaker 3: You know?

529
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, play there's the practice squad's had significant turnover already.

530
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 6: I mean, I can't remember them having this much practice

531
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 6: squad turnover. They basically flipped half the practice squad at

532
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 6: this point from what it started.

533
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,640
Speaker 5: For they played a game. Yeah, it's interesting.

534
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 10: It's a significant amount.

535
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 6: And obviously you don't know when guys are going to

536
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,719
Speaker 6: become available and from other teams and things like that.

537
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,919
Speaker 6: But Gregory is an interesting player like their typical you know,

538
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 6: one technique, shaded nose tackle, can control gaps, can penetrate

539
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 6: the line on stunts and things like that. He has

540
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 6: good tape in the preseason, and I know the Bengals

541
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,880
Speaker 6: fans did not want to see him get poached when

542
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 6: they cut him, so they were all pretty disappointed that

543
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 6: he got claimed by the Patriots. And Rabel said yesterday

544
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 6: that they had a draftable grade on him in the

545
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 6: draft and we're competing with Cincinnati and undrafted free agency

546
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 6: for him, and they lost out an undrafted free agency,

547
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 6: so they maybe not a throwaway, you know, as Duce

548
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 6: kind of laid out. I think that that could be

549
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 6: somebody that sticks around.

550
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

551
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 4: I throw Mark Robinson in there, who Pittsburgh fans were

552
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 4: kind of a little bit bummed out to see just

553
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 4: you know, a guy they had since twenty twenty two.

554
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 4: A lot of special teams for them. So some of

555
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 4: these veterans are coming in. I think they might end

556
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,199
Speaker 4: up on the game day roster, maybe having a role

557
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 4: that It's always weird when you spend all off season

558
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 4: watching the same group of guys and the all through

559
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 4: training camp, and then all of a sudden, Week one,

560
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 4: there's like a guy I've never even seen it.

561
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Speaker 5: And I know when they make the original fifty three

562
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 5: that it's always in flux, but I've been a little

563
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 5: surprised with just how much influx the whole thing, you know,

564
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Speaker 5: even the sixty nine, you know, like Evan pointed out,

565
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 5: with the practice squad and just the amount of change

566
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 5: before they've even played a game. It has been a

567
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 5: little bit surprising.

568
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 3: All right. So we're going to get into the game

569
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 3: and you have the depth chart in front of you.

570
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 10: Uh oh, this one's filled out.

571
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 4: This is this your depth, this is mine. I like

572
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 4: to keep it myself.

573
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 3: So what do you have? Who do you have playing

574
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 3: left guard to start the Raiders game?

575
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:23,959
Speaker 4: Jared Wilson?

576
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 3: You have Wilson? Yeah, okay, and.

577
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 5: You have I have no idea that I mean, if

578
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 5: I had to make a guess, I would take Wilson, and.

579
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 3: You have Ben Jones, uh, Ben Brown, I'm.

580
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 5: Thinking of the other Garrett Bradberry, Ben Johnson, former Verbel safety.

581
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,199
Speaker 5: The center that I know I know out of Georgia.

582
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 3: I remember Ben. I have a good story about him.

583
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 4: But anyway, very tight with captain anyways, but I have

584
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 4: Garrett Bradbury with Ben Brown. But but then also, so

585
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 4: which one do you have starting at center?

586
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 3: Bradbury?

587
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 4: Okay, yep, I got him a up. Okay, think that's

588
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 4: the that's the list. But you know, even bringing in

589
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 4: highness like, to me, it signals they're chill, still really

590
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 4: trying to figure it out at that position. And he

591
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 4: has some guard versatility too, So if maybe it doesn't

592
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 4: go great with Wilson, maybe he's an option there as well.

593
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,360
Speaker 4: So now these moves just signal to me where they

594
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 4: think they're light and where they need to add some depth,

595
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 4: especially the veteran guys.

596
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 3: So what's what's your personnel? To start this game? Patriots

597
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,959
Speaker 3: come out first and ten thirty five probably what's your

598
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 3: personnel thirty five?

599
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 4: I'm going to go eleven personnel with Vermandre and Hunter,

600
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 4: Henry and Uh and Digs Douglas and Booty. Say that again,

601
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 4: Digs Douglas, Booty, Hunter, Romandre Diggs Douglas.

602
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 5: I'm going to replace Booty with mac Hollins.

603
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 6: I'm going to replace Booty and Mac Collins with Jack

604
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 6: Westover because I GUARANTI is twenty one personnel with the

605
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:55,719
Speaker 6: full back and back problem, you know, like with all

606
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 6: the changes.

607
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 5: Very subtle, small thing, but they've officially listed Westover as

608
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 5: a full back.

609
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 10: And the guy is now thirty seven full back number.

610
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:07,959
Speaker 4: Got got off that eighty seven thing?

611
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 6: You're you're if they're going lead Iso right up the

612
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 6: middle on the first play, he should.

613
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 4: Go talk to him in the locker room.

614
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 5: I feel like, take my time getting out of the

615
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 5: food buffet if we get if we win the toss,

616
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 5: I want first. I'll come back for second and nine.

617
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 4: He's one west Over. I was biding my time a

618
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 4: little bit on but I don't think anyone's really talked

619
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 4: about him, and I don't know for sure if he's

620
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 4: going to really actually play. I mean, Evan, you know

621
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 4: you want to run right into the land and Roberts

622
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 4: first down shore, but.

623
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Speaker 6: Absolutely coming at you baby, right. That's why that tells

624
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 6: everybody that doesn't It doesn't matter to Paul.

625
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 5: But you know, no, I just thought it was interesting

626
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 5: that they went out of their way to officially make

627
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 5: that move on the roster, like no, no, no, he's

628
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 5: not not a tight end. He's a full back.

629
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, he doesn't really look.

630
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 10: Like it doesn't look like a fullback to me too.

631
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 6: But I'm the one thing I am a little bit

632
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 6: interested in is like he probably can catch passes a

633
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,959
Speaker 6: little bit more than like a Yakab Johnson or James

634
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 6: Devlin when Roberts caught a touchdown pass use But yeah, yeah,

635
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 6: but they the tight end background, maybe he does have

636
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 6: a little bit more juice as a receiver where they

637
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 6: can do some fun things with him in that respect

638
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 6: that maybe they wouldn't be able to do with like

639
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 6: a Devilin style fullback.

640
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 10: So I'm not saying he's gonna.

641
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 5: Catch I'll throw you a bone here of okay, because

642
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 5: I'm nothing if not fay. I can live with the

643
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 5: whole fullback thing. If this is the way it is,

644
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 5: like I'm going to take a third tight end and

645
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 5: make him a full back as opposed to what Evan

646
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 5: was describing before. Just like this bulldozer who just drops

647
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 5: his head and runs into a wall. This guy he

648
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 5: as a as a tight end by trade. He should

649
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 5: be able to get out and catch a pass or

650
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 5: to for you if you need be. He should be

651
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 5: able to block. He's got some mobility. He's not just

652
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 5: an offensive lineman playing in the backfield. If that's the

653
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 5: way you want to use a full back, okay, I

654
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 5: can live with that.

655
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 6: Well, you lead him up to the second level, Paul,

656
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 6: and then once the linebacker starts to bite on it,

657
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 6: then you run leak and you just run him right

658
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 6: by the linebacker and he's wide open.

659
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 5: You run leak with yo, Johnson and this doesn't do

660
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Speaker 5: you any good.

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Speaker 3: There you go, Stevenson's You're you're starting running back? Yeah? Okay?

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Speaker 10: For now?

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Speaker 3: Okay? And so then after the Patriots go the length

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Speaker 3: of the field for seven and they come out on

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Speaker 3: de go for two?

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Speaker 5: Why not go for two?

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Speaker 3: No, I don't need to do that.

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Speaker 5: So new era eight nothing, Okay, go.

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Speaker 3: Ahead, starting front seven for the Patriots? What does that

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Speaker 3: look like?

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Speaker 4: Take it away far more Tongam, Williams, Chase on Landry

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Speaker 4: on the edges, Blaine and Ellis.

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Speaker 3: So you have Tonga, I'm starting.

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Speaker 5: I'm with you. That's that would be my front seven.

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Speaker 4: And then and then Alex Austin and Carlton. Yeah, surprise

676
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Speaker 4: you going base, going base on space.

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Speaker 5: Well, I don't know that's base what we saw every day.

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Speaker 3: Really yeah, okay, well.

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Speaker 5: Except for when Toby got hurt, you know, and basically

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Speaker 5: missed all of camp.

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Speaker 3: I thought they were going to be a four to

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Speaker 3: three team.

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Speaker 6: I think they are, but that that's they could be both.

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Speaker 6: So wait a minute, that's a five man front. But

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Speaker 6: he just listed Yeah, but I understand what your point is.

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Speaker 6: You can look at those guys in the edges as linebackers.

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Speaker 6: You can look at him at his ends. Whatever however

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Speaker 6: you describe him is gonna. I think it's who. So

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Speaker 6: so let's take Chase on right. You're going to say

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Speaker 6: Chase onto pay Longo. No, I would expect you have

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Speaker 6: Williams bar More inside, Chase on Landery outside.

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Speaker 4: So out well see to me, it depends on and

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Speaker 4: put Marcus Jones in.

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Speaker 5: But this is all, and this is why coaches sometimes

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Speaker 5: bristle at like these depths.

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Speaker 3: I know, so and calling.

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Speaker 5: If Tennessee does the Evan thing, I mean, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 5: If Las Vegas does the the Evan thing and they

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Speaker 5: come out and it's genty with a full back in

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Speaker 5: front of them, and you know, then Tonga is going

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Speaker 5: to be in the middle.

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Speaker 10: Right.

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Speaker 5: But if they if they come out with Trey Tucker

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Speaker 5: on one side and Jacoby Myers in the slot and

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Speaker 5: Bowers and maybe Meyer the you know, like whatever, and

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Speaker 5: they have like four wide, then maybe Tonga is probably

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Speaker 5: not going to be in the game.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, that's fair.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: If they look like they're going to run the ball

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Speaker 5: on first down, Tong is going to be on.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think that's a simple way to think

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Speaker 4: of it as just Tonga Tonga out, Marcus Jones in. Maybe.

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Speaker 4: But there's only so many guys that I really think

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Speaker 4: are going to play. You know, I think I could

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Speaker 4: see Keon White getting some snaps, but after that, all

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Speaker 4: those guys I named, I think that's kind of the

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Speaker 4: rotation is like thirteen guys. Maybe it's not.

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Speaker 5: Really like I'm not ecting of personnel on defense for you.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think on the D line there will

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Speaker 6: be because like Keon White's gonna get some snaps farm.

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Speaker 5: Especially earlier in the year, you're gonna see farms. You

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Speaker 5: probably you might even see, you know, some of the

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Speaker 5: younger guys, because usually you rotate a lot of bodies

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Speaker 5: up front.

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Speaker 4: I just I guess I'm more concerned with get down

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Speaker 4: to brass tacks and when the game's on the line,

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Speaker 4: who are the real guys? You know, I get, I

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Speaker 4: get trying to get you know, Jeremiah Farms some snaps

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Speaker 4: and get Joshua Farmer some work and you know, start

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Speaker 4: to see what you have. And some of these guys

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Speaker 4: probably dugger rotationally a little bit, but those other that's

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Speaker 4: kind of the core thirteen I see in.

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Speaker 3: So let's talk about Gonzo for a second. Is there

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Speaker 3: any chance that there's a little subterfuge going on on

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Speaker 3: the part of Mike Vrabel, Like I'm not gonna play

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Speaker 3: my cards. No, No, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I don't think there's any subterfuge. I'm not going to

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Speaker 5: tell you there's no chance that he'll play. I think

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Speaker 5: there's a chance he'll play, you know, but I don't.

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Speaker 5: I don't think this is a ruse.

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Speaker 4: Okay, it doesn't seem like he has time for that.

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Speaker 4: Like sometimes with some of these ruses and subterfuge, energy

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Speaker 4: and energy going into trying to pull it off than

746
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Speaker 4: like the other team, like you know, they're probably still preparing,

747
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Speaker 4: like Gonzalez could play. I just think it's bowers to

748
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Speaker 4: me that like you know, I'm more concerned about him.

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Speaker 4: And how does Gonzales not being there affect the trickle

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Speaker 4: down of what their game plan is going to look

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Speaker 4: like dealing with Bowers.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, I just wonder.

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Speaker 6: Rabel yesterday kind of started to say that it's taken

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Speaker 6: longer than expected, and then sort of caught himself and

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Speaker 6: pivoted his answer a little bit.

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Speaker 10: It's a soft tissue thing.

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Speaker 6: You guys have been on it, like those things are tricky,

758
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Speaker 6: and one day it could feel better and the next

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Speaker 6: day it doesn't. So to me, it looks like they

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Speaker 6: were expecting him to be back and maybe a little

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Speaker 6: bit sooner than this, but it's just not ready yet.

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Speaker 6: And so it's better to be safe than sorry and

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Speaker 6: play the long game here. But I'm more worried about

764
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Speaker 6: not to look ahead. But like week two in Miami

765
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Speaker 6: is more worrisome without Gonzo than this week against the Raiders.

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Speaker 6: I think they can get by this week without him if.

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Speaker 3: It comes to isn't as much a factor this week.

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Speaker 6: And outside receiver, you know, in particular like Dante Thorton,

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Speaker 6: I guess has had a nice camp for him for them.

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Speaker 6: He was drafted, uh, you know from Tennessee, uh speed receiver.

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Speaker 6: But I overall like that's Trey Tucker is a nice

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Speaker 6: slot receiver, kind of like their pop Douglas. We obviously

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Speaker 6: know about Kobe Myers, but besides that, it's not a

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Speaker 6: star studded receiving corpse.

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Speaker 5: Early line, Paul, I believe the Patriots are favored by

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Speaker 5: two and a half two and a half, two and

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Speaker 5: a Hey you're down by and hey.

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Speaker 1: There we go.

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Speaker 5: Would you like to say disrespect now? You're going to

780
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Speaker 5: make them really underdogs point You're going to make it

781
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Speaker 5: out to be like we shocked the world. That's right,

782
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Speaker 5: I figured, Yeah, nobody believed that's that's Thursday showed on.

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Speaker 3: St okay uh weather early weather reports.

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Speaker 5: To be a really real, nice one gorgeous what I'm

785
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Speaker 5: hearing when every game should be played.

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Speaker 4: I also apparently that's when practices are happening now too.

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Speaker 4: It seems like, which kind of makes sense to me,

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Speaker 4: that you would practice roughly when you play. In the past,

789
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Speaker 4: teams have practiced in the morning, but it seems like

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Speaker 4: these guys are one thirty to three thirty is going

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Speaker 4: to be there their Wednesday Thursday practice.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how do you feel about that? You like that,

793
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Speaker 3: does that fit your schedule?

794
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Speaker 4: Not great?

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Speaker 3: No, I'm not like that.

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Speaker 5: Not great, Bob.

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Speaker 3: What's it is? What it is?

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Speaker 4: I mean, uh, you know, you just gotta roll with it,

799
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Speaker 4: be flexible. You know, they gotta do what they gotta do.

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Speaker 4: I just understand the philosophy of it though, that you

801
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Speaker 4: want to get guys used to your body about one o'clock,

802
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Speaker 4: that's time to go. And you know, if you're practicing

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Speaker 4: at ten. I mean it's a subtle thing, but.

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Speaker 5: I just wonder, you know, in terms of their work

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Speaker 5: that they have to do in meetings, film study, you know,

806
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Speaker 5: all that kind of stuff, how you divide that up

807
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Speaker 5: during the course of the day. What's most advantageous because

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Speaker 5: it seems like we haven't had a tremendous amount of

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Speaker 5: coaches here. You know, it was Pete Carol for one

810
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Speaker 5: year for me, then all those years of Bill, then

811
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Speaker 5: Mayo for a year like it's but it seems like

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Speaker 5: everybody has a different time, and even Bill changed peer.

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Speaker 3: It's just a matter of like when you want your

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Speaker 3: film review to happen and all that. I think it

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Speaker 3: makes sense because you have the morning to look at

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Speaker 3: yesterday's practice. What are we going to fix what are

817
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Speaker 3: we going to do today yet? So you have all

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Speaker 3: the morning to do that, then you go do it.

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Speaker 12: You know.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, in the past, Bill would do it the night

821
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Speaker 6: before after practice they would break down the film and

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Speaker 6: then go over the script for the next day, and

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Speaker 6: then they come back in the morning and practice, whereas

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Speaker 6: this is all the morning I'm sure is going to

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Speaker 6: be what we're going to do at practice, the corrections

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Speaker 6: from the day before, and then right into practice. I'm

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Speaker 6: with you, I do it this way because I feel

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Speaker 6: like then they go home, they go they go to

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Speaker 6: you know, in their personal lives, they go to sleep.

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Speaker 6: They there's a lot of time that passes between when

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Speaker 6: they talked about, you know, your third step was off

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Speaker 6: on that route break and them actually getting back on

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Speaker 6: the field the next day and doing it live. So

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Speaker 6: this way there it all happens kind of it at

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Speaker 6: one one swoop.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's also be a little different on Fridays. I

837
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 4: don't know if this ed was going to keep, but

838
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Speaker 4: in the past we've had like coach before practice. Now

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00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 4: it's going to be coach after practice. So Evan usually

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Speaker 4: does a write up based on who practice is on Friday.

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Speaker 4: Who might not be there, so you'll get to talk

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Speaker 4: directly to Vrabel. If Gonzo doesn't practice Friday, and all

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Speaker 4: signs are portant to know, you'll get to ask them

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Speaker 4: about it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, well that's the table it has been set,

846
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Speaker 3: getting ready for the Raiders on Sunday, three days a

847
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 3: week for the Patriots, for Patriots Unfiltered. It's uh that

848
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Speaker 3: really signifies the start of this. That's when when we

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Speaker 3: go to three days a week.

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Speaker 10: That's what everybody says.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 4: It's just so nice to have things to talk about.

853
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Speaker 4: Like you get to this point where, like in the

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00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 4: off season where you feel like you've just unloaded the

855
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 4: clip on every topic that there is, and now you

856
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 4: go four days without a show and there's you know,

857
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 4: solid forty minutes worth of things to discuss. And it'll

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Speaker 4: only get better as the NFL season.

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Speaker 3: And all right, eight five to five Pats five hundred

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Speaker 3: is the hotline podcast at Patriots dot com is the

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00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 3: way to email us. So let's get to the phones

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Speaker 3: and we'll see who has what to say. We'll start

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Speaker 3: with who else? Christian in La what's up? Hey?

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Speaker 13: You guys pay a week to countdown and here we go,

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Speaker 13: I'm really excited about the season. On two things. One,

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Speaker 13: are you guys at all worried that you haven't really

867
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Speaker 13: heard any stellar comments about Drake May's play at practice.

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Speaker 13: And I just haven't heard like May is looking like,

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Speaker 13: you know, the next great thing. He's making these great

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Speaker 13: throws down field, blah blah blah. I guess I've heard

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Speaker 13: he's comfortable in the pocket, and I guess there has

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Speaker 13: to be enough, and so I'm a little bit lary

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Speaker 13: about that. Secondly, can you guys give me at leash

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Speaker 13: your first three plays? I have Rimandre Stevenson up the middle,

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Speaker 13: Trayvon Henderson probably a toss out, and then something up

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Speaker 13: the steam to the tight end.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'll take it up the air, all right.

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Speaker 5: Thanks.

879
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 3: So on the first question, we don't really get to

880
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,280
Speaker 3: see practice anymore, you know, you know, the good stuff,

881
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 3: So it's hard for anyone in the media to say, oh,

882
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 3: he's been looking good in practice.

883
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 4: Well, I would say that the what the two or

884
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 4: three practices we saw that were closed and we weren't

885
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 4: really allowed to write extensively about that. I thought there

886
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 4: were a couple of drakes best practices, but I would

887
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 4: just say overall he's been he's been good, but there

888
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 4: have been definitely moments of inconsistency with him all all

889
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:26,919
Speaker 4: summer long.

890
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 3: And yeah, I think that's so we're not going to

891
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,439
Speaker 3: be able to say any practices this week.

892
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 6: No, not to like make excuses for him, but I

893
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 6: wouldn't say that there's a ton of correlation between how

894
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 6: some of these players look in practice and then when

895
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 6: we those.

896
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 5: Practices that didn't even they weren't even.

897
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 6: Impact right, Like, I don't know, I've had I've seen

898
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 6: it go both ways, where guys have amazing training camps

899
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,280
Speaker 6: and then all of a sudden, the season rolls around

900
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 6: and they're they're not even to be heard from, you know.

901
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 5: I mean, I think Mike hit it when we just

902
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 5: started talking about this, like we can hammer all of

903
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 5: these points that we in practice home all day long,

904
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 5: and now the season's here, we're going to get a

905
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 5: chance to get, you know, a sample size of what

906
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 5: it looks like in real, real action. One of the

907
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 5: things that I've really been focused on is how many

908
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 5: times I watch and I say, like there was pressure quickly,

909
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 5: but would that have been pressure leading to a sack

910
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 5: or throwaway or would that be a play that Drake

911
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 5: May can get off platform and make a play, and

912
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 5: you don't know that until it's a real game, right, Yeah,

913
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 5: it's impossible.

914
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 3: And as far as which plays are going to happen,

915
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 3: I mean, play two will be dictated by how well

916
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 3: play one works. Play one will be Hunter Henry over

917
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 3: the middle.

918
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna say it's going to be a little

919
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 5: uh an easy and easy completion, you know, maybe getting someone,

920
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 5: you know, maybe.

921
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,760
Speaker 3: A quick hitter west Over in the flat.

922
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 5: Well not west Over, but maybe even some you know,

923
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 5: some something to Digs real quick or Douglas real quick,

924
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,919
Speaker 5: just to get Rake May settled, right, because that's been

925
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 5: kind of an under I don't know. I think it's

926
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 5: been a little bit of an overblown topic. Like how

927
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 5: Drake May had mentioned he's a little jacked up at

928
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 5: the beginning, and now everybody's running away with this. How

929
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 5: do we settle Drake down? I mean, like it's a

930
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 5: very common quarterback problem. And by the way, one that

931
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 5: even Tom Brady.

932
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 3: The greatest of all you were going to.

933
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 5: Like Brady Brady used to be a little bit hot, you.

934
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 3: Know, if anything, they need to get more excited.

935
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 6: Didn't he not score a touchdown in the first quarter

936
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 6: of a Super Bowl until Tampa.

937
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 10: Right, like, it was like ten straight, nine straight super bowls.

938
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 5: They were scooless in the first because he would super

939
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 5: bowls right yeah, yeah, thanks Bill, all of them. Thanks Bill.

940
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 5: I like that. That was it was well done, Mike.

941
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 5: I wonder if I.

942
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 6: Was listening to someone talk about this. I don't know who,

943
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 6: but Josh Allen used to like advocate for running the ball,

944
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 6: like him physically running the ball, I.

945
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 5: Want to say Boomers Sias and said that this morning,

946
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 5: let me get lit up. Yeah, and he would go

947
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 5: to brass Brian table, Yeah, give me, let me, let

948
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 5: me run it, let me get into the game, let

949
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 5: me get hit. I need to get hit.

950
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 10: Yeah yeah, something like that maybe one way to.

951
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 3: Help A lot of players say that you don't like,

952
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 3: you know, you don't really fill your into the game

953
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 3: until you get that either give or get that first hit.

954
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 5: But I just wonder if they'll give him, you know,

955
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 5: something really really quick, quick and easy completion. I'd be

956
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 5: surprised if you didn't see an early screen in the game.

957
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 5: I mean, you'ren't necessarily going to get one on first

958
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 5: and ten of the season, not really a great screen time.

959
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 5: But yeah, I wouldn't be surprised they're established.

960
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know when it would come.

961
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 5: I think they're going to be predominantly running early in

962
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 5: the game. I just mean, like.

963
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 10: Right up the middle.

964
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, given when we know and Roberts like getting up

965
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 4: on Travian Henderson. You know, you see Travian Henderson split

966
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 4: out wide to see if it's man and like you

967
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 4: see Land and Roberts go with him. I'd be like alert, alert,

968
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 4: you know, think Lynn Roberts great coming downhill.

969
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 3: I don't need to run down and move out there.

970
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 4: Get him on, get him in coverage. That's I mean,

971
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 4: that's what I think Josh is probably that's the new

972
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 4: special sauce for this offense is maybe he didn't quite

973
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 4: expect what he was going to be able to do

974
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 4: with Henderson. But I imagine right now he's cooking in

975
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 4: a loud and I think.

976
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 3: If you're the Raiders, you want to rattle May early.

977
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 3: You want to get you want to get him thinking

978
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 3: about our pressure right away.

979
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just say so.

980
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 3: So if I'm McDaniels, I would expect him to want

981
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 3: to do that. So, like Paul said, get it out

982
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 3: of his hands quickly, you know, don't let them do

983
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 3: that early.

984
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I would. I'd look at the offensive line,

985
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 4: that was the left side of the offensive line. If

986
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 4: it's two rookies, you know, trying to get pressure. Adam

987
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 4: Butler's always been a good pass rusher, obviously Max Crosby

988
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 4: is excellent, but you know, trying to get pressure with

989
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 4: three or four guys and you know, make may read coverage,

990
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 4: make drop guys in his own so he's not going

991
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 4: to be as much of a threat with his feet.

992
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,399
Speaker 4: And if you can give those rookies hell with Max

993
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 4: Crosby and you're able to get pressure with just him,

994
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 4: you know, with those guys, maybe run some stunts, then

995
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 4: I think that's the most direct way to get New

996
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 4: England's offense off balance. So those young guys, I mean

997
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 4: they get rattled early. I mean they've both been really

998
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 4: calm and steady. We know from our perspective, but an

999
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 4: opponent might look at that saying, hey, two rookies, sure,

1000
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,439
Speaker 4: put Max over them. Let's absolutely get them rattled early.

1001
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 6: It's a really interesting like chess match on both sides,

1002
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 6: because like Max Crosby usually rushes over the right tackle

1003
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 6: so for him to flip sides is a game plan

1004
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 6: wrinkle for the Raiders. And then from the Patriots point

1005
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 6: of view, I think rightfully, so the staff last year

1006
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,760
Speaker 6: got a lot of heat for not having game plans

1007
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 6: for pass rushers. You know, and you face a guy

1008
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 6: like Max Crosby, you can't just expect Will Campbell to

1009
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 6: block him one on one twenty times, like you have

1010
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 6: to get you know, you have to help, you have

1011
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 6: to chip, you have to move the pocket, you have

1012
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 6: to double team, like, you have to do different things.

1013
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 6: So from a McDaniel's Doug Maroon standpoint, is a really

1014
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 6: like trial by fire from a game plan perspective of

1015
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 6: how are you going to handle a pass rusher like

1016
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,280
Speaker 6: Max Crosby that can really take.

1017
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 3: I remember several games where whether it was you know,

1018
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 3: JJ Watt or Clay Matthews, you know, Bill would go

1019
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 3: into the game saying, we're going to take that guy

1020
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 3: away when Crosby win the game, and most of the

1021
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 3: time they were at least successful in doing that.

1022
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 6: You know, Like, it would be disappointing to me if

1023
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 6: we are on here next Tuesday and Max Crosby just

1024
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 6: had you know, ten pressures in a couple of sacks

1025
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 6: and like that those are the types of things that

1026
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 6: good coaching staffs avoid. Is this is the one guy

1027
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 6: that can't beat us, right, so what can we do

1028
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 6: to make sure that he doesn't beat you?

1029
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 4: And say the same thing about Bowers on the other

1030
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 4: side of the ball right exactly, go on, and he

1031
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 4: has twelve catches and two touchdowns. You know that's it's

1032
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 4: such a unique rate.

1033
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 5: I'd be more surprised that that happened to Bowers than

1034
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 5: I would be if Max Crosby that has a good

1035
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 5: game too, I wouldn't. It wouldn't surprise me at all

1036
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 5: to see him have a couple of sacks.

1037
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 10: But like, how do they get pretty glad? I think

1038
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 10: is interesting?

1039
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 5: No, I agree with you. I think that they will

1040
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 5: try very hard to gain and planned out. I just

1041
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 5: think that Tom Brady had so much to do with

1042
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 5: those shutdowns of JJ Watt and Joey Bosa and all

1043
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 5: those other guys that they saw over the years.

1044
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 4: The ball out too quick, man, I can't get you.

1045
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 6: Yep, you can't just like ignore it, right, Like I

1046
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 6: think the staff last year did that, and they just

1047
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 6: kind of ran their plays and just expected guys to

1048
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 6: hold up and all that kind of thing. And you know,

1049
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,240
Speaker 6: if they whether it's getting the ball out at Drake's

1050
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 6: hands quickly, whether it's chipping him on third downs when

1051
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 6: they have to drop back a little bit longer, you know,

1052
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 6: moving the pocket away from him is right, he's over there,

1053
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 6: I'm Drake may is running the other direction, like, Yeah,

1054
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,919
Speaker 6: those types of things like that. That's a I hope

1055
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 6: that we're going to see that this year because that's

1056
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 6: like how the coaching staff can really elevate the talent.

1057
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I just offensively the reason I feel like

1058
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 5: they do have two thousand yard receivers coming back.

1059
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: Now.

1060
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 5: I don't think Jakobe Myers is a great receiver. I

1061
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 5: think he's good. I think he's a good player. I

1062
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 5: wish that the Patriots never let him go in the

1063
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 5: first place. As you guys know, their numbers are very similar.

1064
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 5: I mean talking about the difference of about what fifteen catches,

1065
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 5: you know, twenty catches and you know, less than one

1066
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 5: hundred yards. So to Kobe Myers, if they want to

1067
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 5: just double and do everything they can to take out

1068
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 5: with Bowers. I think Geno Smith is a veteran enough

1069
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 5: quarterback to have the experience to say, Okay, I'll oh,

1070
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 5: just let this guy you know do it. But with

1071
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 5: with with Crosby, I just think he's so much more

1072
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 5: talented than in large part the guys they're going to

1073
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,720
Speaker 5: be blocking him. I think he'll make plays.

1074
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,280
Speaker 10: Yeah, shouldn't be blocking him by themselves.

1075
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 5: No, they won't be.

1076
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're saying he'll beat the double.

1077
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 5: I think he's seen a double team in the past.

1078
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 5: Let's put it back.

1079
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 3: I think so, yeah.

1080
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 5: I think he's seen his share a double time.

1081
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 4: Those are be interesting. He's like because he's feisty, he

1082
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 4: loves like a little extra business, talking crap. Remember Gosh,

1083
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 4: one of the hard Knocks, but their team was paring

1084
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 4: for them and they were literally having like their practice squad.

1085
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 4: Guys like be annoying, like Max Crosby is like Will

1086
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 4: Campbell's attitude. I don't think he's going to be putting

1087
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 4: up with that, you know. But it's also like that's

1088
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:07,879
Speaker 4: a way to get rookies off their game. If Mark

1089
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 4: Max Crosby's in their ear talking crap and Will Campbell's

1090
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 4: reacting more to him than he is on the game plan.

1091
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 5: So it's just something the watch and bus you know,

1092
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 5: you know, you could, you know, to Evan's point, if

1093
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 5: you want to come out and be physical and run

1094
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,760
Speaker 5: the ball, that's a great way to neutralize pass rushers

1095
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 5: and keep the hills. Get them up you know, get

1096
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 5: them up field a little bit and maybe see if

1097
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 5: you can you can, if you could crease them. But

1098
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 5: this would be about McDaniels and you know what, what

1099
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 5: the whatever the game plan is going to be in

1100
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 5: the passing game and has got to be quick, right.

1101
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 5: You can't expect to have typical Drake may plays where

1102
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 5: he's surveying the field looking and drive the ball down

1103
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 5: field and taking time because I don't care if it's

1104
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 5: a double team, He's going to get there. He's gonna

1105
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 5: And Malcolm Coons isn't bad. He's not Max Crosby, He's

1106
00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 5: not even close to Max Cross.

1107
00:49:59,239 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 3: But he gets his ship.

1108
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 5: He had eight sacks last year.

1109
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 3: Which is two years ago.

1110
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think he had eight last year.

1111
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 10: No, he tours Aco last year.

1112
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 5: Oh okay, that was Chase on last year.

1113
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 10: But yeah, they I mean, you guys, they've been chipping the.

1114
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 6: Ends a ton in practice and the practices that we

1115
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 6: were seeing and even that like Yeah, he's still gonna

1116
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 6: get there. But at least it gives Drake May that

1117
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 6: half a beat to scan the field a little bit.

1118
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 6: If it's third and eight and they know they have

1119
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 6: to drop back past, if you can chip the ends,

1120
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 6: then at least it gives them.

1121
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 10: A little time.

1122
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,919
Speaker 6: But I think the Bowers thing, I assume that they're

1123
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 6: going to probably bracket Bowers or something like that too.

1124
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 6: That's where not having Gonzo can hurt you, because he's

1125
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 6: Gonzo is going to be one on one against Jacoby

1126
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 6: Myers in that scenario, and that is a matchup that

1127
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 6: I think you can live with. But if it's Alex Austin,

1128
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 6: or if it's Marcus Jones one on one against Jacoby Myers,

1129
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 6: then that's a downgrade.

1130
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 3: Hels playing a little cat and mouse, But probably not.

1131
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,879
Speaker 5: I mean, so let's just for argument's sake, I'm not please,

1132
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 5: don't not getting an argument about this.

1133
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 4: Oh, yes you are.

1134
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 5: Would it makes sense to you to not having practiced.

1135
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 5: So this is gonna be about thirty five days, right, right,

1136
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 5: So let's say he's been practicing the last couple so

1137
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 5: he went thirty days without practicing, and then it was

1138
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 5: part of a ruse. So not having practiced for the

1139
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 5: other days and having practiced the last.

1140
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 3: It's like it's it's like Rabel knows more chance than

1141
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 3: not he's going to play. But I don't need to

1142
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 3: tell anybody.

1143
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 5: No, no, there might be that. Yeah, but I don't

1144
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 5: think that's a good ruse. Yeah, Like I think it

1145
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 5: would be better if you just said no, no, no,

1146
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 5: he's been practicing the last two weeks and he's up

1147
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 5: to speed.

1148
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 3: Well, I don't think I'm saying he hasn't been practicing

1149
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 3: the last two weeks. He hasn't been practicing.

1150
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,399
Speaker 5: Okay, then yeah, what's the sense of doing a ruse

1151
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 5: if he's not practiced.

1152
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 3: Because because you know he's gonna, he's gonna he's close.

1153
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 5: Like Mike said, Like, if I'm Pete Carroll right now,

1154
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,760
Speaker 5: I'm fully anticipating Christian Gonzalez being at corner on Sunday.

1155
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 5: If he's not, that makes your job easier, right, right,

1156
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 5: I guess So, yeah, all right. I think it was

1157
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 5: July twenty eighth was the day he got hurt in practice.

1158
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 5: So we're talking like first day of Patty five plus

1159
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 5: days that he's going to go, you know, practicing.

1160
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 10: If I know, I'm more worried about like from tomorrow,

1161
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 10: Like I'm not worried about Gonza. Solution is the problem, right,

1162
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 10: Like can he There's no chance he can play seventy

1163
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 10: snaps on Sunday.

1164
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 5: That's my whole point. Yeah, Like like why would you

1165
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 5: go out of your way to you know, I misunderstood

1166
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 5: what Fred's part of the ruse was, Like why would

1167
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 5: you go out of your way to have him not

1168
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 5: be ready to play? Yeah, just so the other team

1169
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 5: doesn't know he's not playing.

1170
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 4: I just say, generally speaking, and it goes back a

1171
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 4: little bit to Pepper's thing based on the joint practices.

1172
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,879
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm so curious how they're going to deal

1173
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 4: with tight ends all season long with this defense and

1174
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 4: Bowers is unique, and Evan's been the one to say

1175
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 4: it's more about the average tight ends, the guys.

1176
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 3: That are sneaky.

1177
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:57,959
Speaker 5: This guy's are wide receiving right.

1178
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 4: Right, So you know you're going to get attention with

1179
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 4: him and it'll be probably a special game pan But

1180
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 4: week in week out, is Christian ellis your tight end?

1181
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:07,800
Speaker 4: E racer?

1182
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 12: Is that?

1183
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

1184
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 4: Like, there's not really is it going to be Craig Woodson,

1185
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,720
Speaker 4: Like it's questions. Yeah, and there's good tight ends across

1186
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 4: the league.

1187
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 6: I just wonder, like, it's to me, how game plan

1188
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 6: oriented are they actually going to be. Like we knew

1189
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:21,800
Speaker 6: with Bill that Bill was going to have something for

1190
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 6: Brock Bauers, and I expect we're able to have something

1191
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 6: for Brock Browers too. But Belichick had a lot of

1192
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 6: really creative double teams and brackets and calls within the

1193
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 6: structure of the defense that they would run against these

1194
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 6: types of players, like you know, when they would face

1195
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 6: a Bowers level type.

1196
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 5: Of Travis Kelcey. There were times where Travis Kelcey was

1197
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 5: taken out. Now was at the expense of giving up

1198
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 5: thirty five to everybody else, but he did nothing. And

1199
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Speaker 5: I think that Bill treated Kelsey as a wide receiver,

1200
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 5: not a tight end, certainly, and I think that's the

1201
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 5: way they'll look at Bob.

1202
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:55,399
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1203
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 6: I mean the AFC Championship game that they had corners

1204
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 6: on Kelsey the entire game is j C. Jackson a

1205
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 6: little bit of Stefan Gilmore So they treated him.

1206
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 3: Like a receiver. Nathan's in New Hampshire. What's up, Nathan, Hey, how's.

1207
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 12: It going, guysyton, I got a question about the quarterbacks.

1208
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 12: So last season, the quarterbacks took one thousand, ninety one snaps,

1209
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 12: and I'm curious what your guys just take on how

1210
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 12: many snaps each quarterback will take?

1211
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 14: Drake many Joshua Dobbs and Tommy DeVito this year? If

1212
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 14: there's a thousand snaps, So what percent or what number

1213
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 14: will eat to them take? Or how many will any

1214
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 14: unknown quarterback that we don't know of at this point

1215
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,479
Speaker 14: if something happens and they bring in another we're heading

1216
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 14: into week one.

1217
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,439
Speaker 5: That's a really uplifting question. Obviously, you're talking if how many,

1218
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 5: how many games the Drake may are going to be hurt?

1219
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1220
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 5: Can I go in thinking that he's going to play

1221
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 5: seventeen games? And yes, can you let me have that

1222
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 5: little fantasy?

1223
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, ninety nine point nine percent?

1224
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, just kneel down down a couple of kneel.

1225
00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 10: Down time, garbage time, Dobbs, is there an to be

1226
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 10: up forty five to nothing?

1227
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 3: Can we do that?

1228
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 10: Throw him out there a couple of times? Mop up duty?

1229
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 3: But kind of makes me think, does Tommy DeVito end

1230
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 3: up winning the number two job?

1231
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 10: I think it's possible. I do dialistically. I just think

1232
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 10: he's a little bit more of a fit.

1233
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 4: You know, in practice, Like could you tell from what

1234
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 4: we'll see in practice or would have to be like, oh,

1235
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 4: di Vito's going in here that the Patriots are up

1236
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 4: twenty in the fourth quarters? Di Vito going in now?

1237
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 6: Well, I would think like on the game day actives right, like,

1238
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 6: because the emergency quarterback is the third string quarterback, so

1239
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 6: typically so all of a sudden, Dobbs becomes the emergency quarterback.

1240
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 3: That's right.

1241
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 5: Personally, I don't think much of okay, bad uh.

1242
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 3: Like the let's go to Providence, Randy's there? What's up Randy?

1243
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 15: Hey, guys, how's going to that?

1244
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 3: Good? Great?

1245
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 16: So I was because a lot of sports for innership

1246
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 16: and stuff you hear about, you know, prep through the

1247
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 16: game and people talking about Max Kraft versus Campbell, and

1248
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 16: I just don't Max Crofty usually runs the right tackle.

1249
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, your your connection.

1250
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 5: We've talked about that.

1251
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 10: I got right though, It's kind of something that's starting

1252
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 10: to annoy me. What ball nowhere?

1253
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:26,240
Speaker 6: You know, everybody's like, oh, like Crosby against Will Campbell.

1254
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 6: I'm like, okay, Well, Crosby likes to rush over the

1255
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 6: other side. So, and there's a lot of guys like Crosby.

1256
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 15: T J.

1257
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 6: Watt is another one that typically rushes over the right tackle.

1258
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 6: Von Miller historically likes rushing over the right tackle. I

1259
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 6: was actually talking about Morgan Moses to Morgan Moses about it.

1260
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 10: It's like, why do you think that is?

1261
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 3: Like, why do you think because your turnfoot is your

1262
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 3: right foot, and yeah.

1263
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't know what it is that is the reason.

1264
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 6: But eighty eighty five percent of the time Max Crosby's

1265
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,040
Speaker 6: over the right tackle. Now, they could say Campbell a

1266
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 6: rookie in his first NFL game and we're going to

1267
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 6: test him.

1268
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:02,879
Speaker 10: I'm not saying they.

1269
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 6: Couldn't, right, But at the end of the day, I was,

1270
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 6: if Crosby wants to rush over the right tackle, then

1271
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 6: I'm letting Crosby rush where he wants to rush.

1272
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 5: Right wherever he would feel more comfortable. But I was

1273
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 5: maybe I'll throw this to Evan. I'll throw Evan the ball,

1274
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,919
Speaker 5: no or bone. Why do you think more elite pass

1275
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 5: rushers don't do it that way? Because wouldn't you think?

1276
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 5: And I know this is a little less than it

1277
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 5: used to be, but can you think the easier matchup

1278
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 5: oftentimes is the right tackle.

1279
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 10: Yeah yeah, well yeah, I don't know what do you

1280
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 10: mean by easier matchup?

1281
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 3: Just like, well, generally the.

1282
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 5: Left tackle is a better player than the right tackle,

1283
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 5: so it was tougher to beat on the pass rush.

1284
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 10: Right, so you'd go against the lesser player on right.

1285
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 5: Which is a lot of people used to criticize. Maybe

1286
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 5: old friend Brian Morey used to criticize the guys that

1287
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 5: predominantly ran on that because they didn't want to face

1288
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 5: the left tackle.

1289
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: Right.

1290
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, you want to get sad.

1291
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 4: There's also the old thing which I don't even know

1292
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 4: if this is true anymore of the teams like to

1293
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 4: run right more.

1294
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 12: You know.

1295
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 4: That's more left sides can be your blind side pass

1296
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 4: protector and your right side is a little bit more

1297
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 4: of your maller. I know it doesn't always work out

1298
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 4: that way, but traditionally that's been the case that if

1299
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 4: you're on.

1300
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 5: Your best pass off the blind side.

1301
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, and you want your edge setter and your

1302
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 4: guy who's going to be tough against it. I mean,

1303
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 4: and that's Max Crosby too, but you know, usually that

1304
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 4: guy's gonna get stuck set in the edge.

1305
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 6: You just see it a lot more now with the

1306
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 6: premiere pass rushers that a lot of guys prefer rushing

1307
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Speaker 6: over the right side. It's a really interesting question that I,

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Speaker 6: you know, wish that I had Max Crosby to ask him.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I would just say that. And this is completely anecdotal.

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Speaker 5: I have no none of Evan's stats to back this up.

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Speaker 5: But I feel like I've seen more in the last

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Speaker 5: couple of years, maybe even longer than that, more quote

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Speaker 5: unquote blind side hits from the coming off the right side,

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Speaker 5: where a quarterback just doesn't see him, you know, because

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Speaker 5: he's fixated on the other side and it's even though

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Speaker 5: it's coming to the front side. Do you remember the

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00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 5: play that you probably don't Evan might Anthony Richardson in

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Speaker 5: the preseason. Yeah, well he missed the guy that right,

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Speaker 5: but it was a front side blind side hit. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I feel like I've seen more of those in the

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Speaker 5: last couple of years than I ever remember seeing before.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: I mean that one was he was hot to the

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Speaker 10: right side and he didn't see the blitzer coming. Yeah,

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Speaker 10: so like he thought he was. I think a lot

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Speaker 10: of times with the.

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Speaker 6: Quarterbacks when they get blind sided, it's because they think

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Speaker 6: that they have the numbers to the side, so they're

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Speaker 10: In Richardson's case, he did not have had on it

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Speaker 10: all right.

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Speaker 1: How are we doing? Karen? Thank you.

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Speaker 19: Can you shed some light on why it made sense.

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Speaker 1: To release growth compers?

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Speaker 20: Well, I think that these things, you know, are tough decisions,

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01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 20: you know. I think we're just trying to get it right.

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Speaker 20: And I got a lot of respect for Jabriel as

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01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 20: as a person and as a player, and what we

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01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 20: felt like was in the best interest of a team

1386
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Speaker 20: at this point.

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Speaker 1: Was was allowing him to have another opportunity elsewhere.

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Speaker 20: And there's a lot of things that go into these decisions,

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Speaker 20: and you know, they're never easy, and we're just trying

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Speaker 20: to get it right collectively. And again, I know that

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Speaker 20: there's a personal side and professional side. I've talked about

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Speaker 20: that with the players this morning, and whether you agree

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01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 20: with it or disagree with it, just just try to

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Speaker 20: respect it and.

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Speaker 1: Then move forward and continue to build a team, continue.

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Speaker 20: To build a program, and I know, Gabriel, you know

1397
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 20: we'll we'll do we'll do good things in this league

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01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 20: and the outside of the field as well as passionate player.

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Speaker 1: And again got a lot of respect for him, Oh

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Speaker 1: my god.

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Speaker 19: In terms of intangible s, you brough out a lot

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Speaker 19: of what you'd like to think about passion plays.

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Speaker 1: The allowance was there was there a ski fit issue?

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Speaker 20: No, I don't think that was certainly not, you know,

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01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 20: not the issue. There's a lot of reasons. You know,

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Speaker 20: I wouldn't say that.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's you know, we're we're going to try

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Speaker 1: to do what's best for the team.

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Speaker 20: We got a lot of different schemes that we can

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01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 20: run in all three phases, special teams, offense, and defense.

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Speaker 20: So you know, there's there's a lot that goes into it.

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01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 20: And again we're just trying to build towards Sunday here

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01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 20: and and that's our focus. And again that the decision

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01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 20: that we had to make. And you know, again wish

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01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 20: the best for Jabril.

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Speaker 3: Fall off from the untrim takes like through a lot

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Speaker 3: of experience.

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Speaker 20: Well, I think that his athleticism, I think his range

1419
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 20: in the in the field, and then the more he plays,

1420
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 20: I think he'll continue to get better. And you know

1421
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 20: that that's the hope there with with Craig, and you

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01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 20: know we'll see with with with with Hawk and with

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01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 20: Doug and obviously Dell working back there now. So you know,

1424
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 20: just trying to find a role for everybody here.

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01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 5: Have you kind of made a conscious decision to put

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Speaker 5: your infrot on the team?

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Speaker 20: Is the number of guys who have been the leaders

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01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 20: with that first lb Cardona, Andrews, Jonathan Johnson, fut twise,

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Speaker 20: they were still hit the.

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Speaker 4: Leaders assessions, they're tremendously successful to so like whotho less?

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Speaker 1: Have you made a conscious decision to kind of we're

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Speaker 1: gonna pivot a little bit from that group of leadership

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Speaker 1: to a.

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Speaker 20: Different I don't you know, never really thought about it

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01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 20: in terms of of that when we tried to make

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Speaker 20: decisi Some of those players were free agents, some of

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01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 20: them work currently on the roster, So you know, I

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01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 20: don't think that's ever been a conscious decision. I think

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01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 20: we're just trying to evaluate the roster and you know,

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01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 20: provide the pieces that we feel like we need right now.

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Speaker 1: Do you see a core of leaders who are are I.

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Speaker 20: Think that that has to happen every year. You know,

1443
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 20: we voted for captains. We'll we'll inform those guys here

1444
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 20: before practice. You know, the players voted this morning, so

1445
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 20: we'll inform those guys before practice. And I think we

1446
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 20: all know that every year is a new year in

1447
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 20: this league and that's kind of how it how it goes,

1448
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 20: and so the leadership has to grow from whether it's

1449
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 20: a captain. We talked about that not having any restrictions

1450
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 20: on leadership and hopefully that at whatever level, we have

1451
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 20: guys that that can lead. So you know, we'll have

1452
01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 20: captains and then we'll have hopefully a lot more leaders

1453
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 20: as well. But yeah, I wouldn't anticipate Yeah, I wouldn't

1454
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 20: anticipate him out here, uh here today. So hopefully that improves.

1455
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 20: But you know, he's working hard and trying to improve

1456
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 20: and he wants to be out there. And you know,

1457
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 20: I think this is good for us and for Christian

1458
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 20: and the team is you know, try not to be frustrated. Obviously,

1459
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 20: those things happen, and it's how we respond to him.

1460
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:29,920
Speaker 20: It's it's how hard we work to get back the

1461
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 20: communication all the things that that he's doing, so, you know,

1462
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 20: just continue to work hard to get back and try

1463
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 20: to make sure that you know we're doing everything we

1464
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 20: can to help him.

1465
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 5: They're concerned for him on Sunday with the timing dates.

1466
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 20: Well, again, I think that uh, having to get him

1467
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 20: back for practice first and then we'll have an update

1468
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 20: and status for for Sunday.

1469
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 1: Like you mentioned, maybe never not to be frustrated.

1470
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 5: Is that something into the team Christians.

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01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 20: Know, that's my own personal experience of you know, when

1472
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 20: you're not in there right, when you're not in there

1473
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 20: with the team, I guess, and I appreciate you actually

1474
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 20: clarifying or asking. Those are just things in the course

1475
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 20: of of my career or being being a coach and

1476
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 20: dealing with players that they want to they want to play,

1477
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 20: they want to be out there, right, So those are

1478
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 20: I guess the things that I have tried to talk

1479
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 20: to all the players about is the time that you're

1480
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 20: not on the field, is how you stay engaged and

1481
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 20: stay into the meetings and the schedule and just you know,

1482
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 20: they all want to play. So again, I think that

1483
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 20: was just a broad term for things that I've tried

1484
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 20: to focus on when guys aren't out there that could

1485
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 20: go for Jilani or anybody else.

1486
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 1: At this point, I appreciate that step back off. Well

1487
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 1: it just hasn't gone.

1488
01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:00,919
Speaker 20: You know, again he's working hard and whether it's again

1489
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 20: we could say this one injury is going to be

1490
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 20: three to four weeks, one's going to be one to two.

1491
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 20: Everybody heals differently, So just making sure that when the

1492
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 20: players are back that they can do their job with confidence,

1493
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:19,640
Speaker 20: that they can protect themselves on on the field, and

1494
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 20: that they can't make it any worse. Those are some

1495
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 20: things that I try to use as guidelines for when

1496
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:30,919
Speaker 20: players are ready to play and get back there, not trying.

1497
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 10: To get questrated with this about what have you.

1498
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:36,880
Speaker 9: Seen doctor, and specifically that you definitely have at that

1499
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 9: position with the dogs design.

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01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 20: I mean, I think DJ was one of our more

1501
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:46,800
Speaker 20: improved players over the course of from rookie mini camp,

1502
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 20: which is you know he participated in that as a

1503
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 20: veteran that had the ability to participate in that till

1504
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 20: now you know, Double A has done a nice job

1505
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:01,719
Speaker 20: of going out there and playing corner and playing nickel.

1506
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 20: Marcus provides a lot of leadership in there. It's been

1507
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 20: good to have CD strengths some days together. So you know,

1508
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 20: it provides opportunity for the guys, and we'd love to

1509
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 20: have Gonzo back, you know, trust me, we would. But

1510
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:19,640
Speaker 20: I think the other guys that have stepped up and

1511
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:22,760
Speaker 20: tried to uh take advantage of the opportunity.

1512
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 5: Jim Hopkins big symmetry fit for his defense for this team.

1513
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 1: For Mayer scheme.

1514
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 20: Well, again it's this is not a scheme dependent, you know.

1515
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 20: I mean we've we've run a lot of different schemes.

1516
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:38,440
Speaker 20: We've had a lot of different players play different positions

1517
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 20: for us. I think he's come in, he's played fast,

1518
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 20: he's communicated, he's tried to play with some you know

1519
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 20: violence around the line of scrimmage and and you know

1520
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 20: whether that's on the perimeter passes that we saw in

1521
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:52,719
Speaker 20: some of the earlier games.

1522
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 1: I think he's comfortable.

1523
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 20: And you know, again, the more reps that he's gotten,

1524
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 20: I think the the better he's gotten it.

1525
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 1: And we'll hopefully perform. What do you look about.

1526
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 20: I think you're always looking for young defensive linemen and

1527
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 20: guys with with good size and and and length and production.

1528
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:19,800
Speaker 20: So somebody that we had targeted, you know, through the

1529
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:22,639
Speaker 20: draft process as it got to the towards the back

1530
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:25,560
Speaker 20: end of the draft, and you know whether that was

1531
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 20: whether he was going to be drafted or not. And

1532
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 20: I think just the personnel department focusing on some of

1533
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:35,639
Speaker 20: those players at cutdown day and having a good list,

1534
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 20: and you know, some of the players that we were

1535
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:38,679
Speaker 20: able to add.

1536
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 1: I'm really excited about working with here.

1537
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:42,720
Speaker 20: Haven't really been able to work with him since we

1538
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 20: claimed him Thursday and then when we added Airic.

1539
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 10: And now great moments in.

1540
01:10:59,080 --> 01:10:59,479
Speaker 1: History.

1541
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:04,680
Speaker 5: The neighbor that burns everything, plastic everything, now that's now

1542
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 5: that that's bad.

1543
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:07,679
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's even even I would say. But I don't

1544
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:09,600
Speaker 10: get Matt's.

1545
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 3: That must be an awful smell is horrible when he

1546
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:12,720
Speaker 3: does it.

1547
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 5: It's always the guy that burns the leaves too, and

1548
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 5: it's up.

1549
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 3: I don't mind leaving, but it ends up.

1550
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 5: With like a blaze and ashes are coming into my yard.

1551
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 5: Though when he's doing.

1552
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 3: Well, you're not supposed to burn leaves. You can burn

1553
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:28,599
Speaker 3: brush and stuff, but not leaves. But people, I know everything.

1554
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:32,599
Speaker 3: I got a guy across the street smokers, he's got

1555
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 3: he's got his main driving paved, but then he's got

1556
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 3: this back road which is all dirt. And he could.

1557
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 3: He keeps putting down wood ships, and every time it rains,

1558
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 3: the wood ships just drain right out into the street.

1559
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 3: He doesn't get it. It's like it's not gonna work.

1560
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:50,719
Speaker 3: How many times are you gonna do this? He keeps

1561
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:52,559
Speaker 3: doing it, and it keeps just running right out.

1562
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 10: Just keep it dirt or paving something sounds like a pillow.

1563
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 3: But like the first time, the first time you look

1564
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 3: at it, Oh, that didn't work, and you don't do

1565
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 3: it again. He keeps doing it.

1566
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 18: That's another great moment.

1567
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 5: All right.

1568
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 3: Back here at Patriots on Filtered A five five Pats

1569
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:14,920
Speaker 3: five hundred is the hot line podcast at Patriots dot

1570
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:20,599
Speaker 3: com is the email address. We're talking a little bit

1571
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 3: on break about last night's uh.

1572
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 5: Not good bob. Yeah, tough debut for Billy Bellachi.

1573
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, not good Bob. They'll get better. They will get better,

1574
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 3: I think I think the.

1575
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 5: I think they will as well.

1576
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1577
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 5: But the other the thing that surprised me was how

1578
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 5: sloppy they looked about the talent we knew they were

1579
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 5: going to be. You know, they're gonna have a hard

1580
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 5: time competing with good teams because they're not going to

1581
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 5: have their players yet but they couldn't execute snaps, you know,

1582
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 5: whether it be a shotgun special teams were a mess, bad,

1583
01:12:58,479 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 5: like just bad football.

1584
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 3: But the other Patriots coach who made his college coach

1585
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 3: and debut did very well.

1586
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 5: I thought fourteen to seven Watricia, the number one ranked

1587
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 5: team in the country, we should all be thinking.

1588
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:13,680
Speaker 3: His defense played out. They they showed up.

1589
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot of cutups going around of some of

1590
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:21,640
Speaker 6: the exotics that he was running, like some of the pressures.

1591
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:24,879
Speaker 3: And single handedly took arch Man NFL NFL schemes.

1592
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 5: At the collegiate level, well, I think it's a lot

1593
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 5: of people were talking about that.

1594
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 6: It's funny because you know, they're like the skuis and

1595
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 6: coverage and these college quarterbacks are like, what the heck

1596
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 6: is going on? Like you can just see arch manning

1597
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:39,760
Speaker 6: like looking around and guys are dropping out and they're

1598
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 6: spinning the dial, and he's like, what the heck. But

1599
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 6: you know, only teams like Ohio State have the horses

1600
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 6: to actually execute that type of defense. So that's why

1601
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 6: you don't see it across all college But when you

1602
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 6: have you know, Caleb Downs in Ohio State secondary, you

1603
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 6: can go ahead and do some of those NFL things.

1604
01:13:56,479 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 5: Remember Caleb Downspread, Okay, yeah, talking about him on'll be

1605
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 5: on the February.

1606
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 3: But when when arch man do the bars of the

1607
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 3: world like did their heads like explode? Because so I

1608
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:09,640
Speaker 3: would just.

1609
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:12,640
Speaker 5: Say that arch Manning took arch Manning out of the

1610
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 5: Heisman conversation. I just think I don't think he played

1611
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:15,720
Speaker 5: very well.

1612
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:18,720
Speaker 10: I think he was in a blender. But I think

1613
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:19,800
Speaker 10: that those two things go on.

1614
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 3: I think that's part of being a great court.

1615
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 5: I saw there was there were the cutups that I

1616
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 5: was looking at and I was like, he looks like

1617
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:26,599
Speaker 5: you knows where he's supposed to go with the ball,

1618
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:28,720
Speaker 5: He's just not getting it there. But the one ball

1619
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 5: that I would say was in a blender, to Evan's point,

1620
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 5: was the pick. It's just dumb, Yeah, like you try

1621
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 5: to throw like an over route into like bracket cuts

1622
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 5: like it was red shirts everywhere. It was one of

1623
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 5: those defensive team meetings. Someone was going to pick that off.

1624
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 5: That was a really bad play. But I just think

1625
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:47,560
Speaker 5: he was He was off until the end of the

1626
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 5: game when he down fourteen to nothing. That drive that

1627
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:53,599
Speaker 5: he put together to score the touchdown, the touchdown throw

1628
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 5: was really good. And then he had another throw down

1629
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 5: the sideline and the next drive that he dropped one

1630
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:01,599
Speaker 5: in perfect on the sideline I think to the tight

1631
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 5: end for like thirty yards, but then he missed an

1632
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 5: easy crossing route on third and five. He knew exactly

1633
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 5: where his guy was. Best player. Who was that speedster there?

1634
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:12,840
Speaker 5: To get his name? Now that's my problem when I

1635
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 5: watch these college games. I'm like, Oh, that guy's good,

1636
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 5: and then I forget the names.

1637
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:18,679
Speaker 10: Yeah, a lot of Texas receivers are under classmen.

1638
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:21,680
Speaker 5: They had Goolden and one of they got.

1639
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 10: All those guys go to the NFL, so they have

1640
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 10: a lot of younger receivers. But it's just Ohio State.

1641
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 6: It's one of those schools that has the talent on

1642
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 6: the defense to actually do some of the things that

1643
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 6: Patricia was doing. But I guess is that a lot

1644
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:38,599
Speaker 6: of these offensive minds in college.

1645
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:41,519
Speaker 5: Well, we'll catch up. Mattie p was really good, really

1646
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 5: good first game.

1647
01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 3: Does that Alabama head coach finish the season the bear?

1648
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 5: But I will say yes, but I don't think he'll

1649
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 5: be the coach next year.

1650
01:15:53,960 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. William the wide receiver for Alabama hurt. Did he

1651
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 3: come back in the game.

1652
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 5: It was like the second to last play of the game.

1653
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:04,680
Speaker 3: Ok.

1654
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 5: I don't think, but I think he got can cussed

1655
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 5: his head right.

1656
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 3: I watched the play. It didn't look like it was

1657
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:11,640
Speaker 3: that straight on of a hit.

1658
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 5: I know he didn't get hit. That's why I took

1659
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 5: the targeting. He hit his head on the ground.

1660
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 3: Oh on the ground.

1661
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, okay, but he had a tough game. He

1662
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:22,679
Speaker 5: did not play well in the game.

1663
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 3: Yeah Williams.

1664
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean nobody.

1665
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 6: I mean Caden Proctor, their left tackle is supposed to

1666
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 6: be a top ten pick in this upcoming draft, and

1667
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:31,719
Speaker 6: he got beat by a freshman.

1668
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 10: I got true freshman.

1669
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:37,679
Speaker 5: I don't know if you watch much of that game, Freddy.

1670
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:41,560
Speaker 5: Florida State dominated that game the last fifty one. The

1671
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:43,720
Speaker 5: first nine minutes, Alabama went down the field. It was

1672
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 5: like North Carolina last night. It was a long drive

1673
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 5: that went down and scored the rest of the game.

1674
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 5: Florida State killed them. The game was not as close

1675
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 5: as the score indicated.

1676
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:56,560
Speaker 10: I think you look at all these college games, so

1677
01:16:56,800 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 10: you do. It was just one week. But the Patriots

1678
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 10: stinking in a quarter good quarterback class, I think is

1679
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 10: like such a great feeling if you're a Patriots fan.

1680
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:12,599
Speaker 10: Because if I had to sell myself on Arch Manning

1681
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 10: and sellers a kid from South Carolina that played the

1682
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:19,559
Speaker 10: other day, or club Nick from Clemson, or ness Meyer,

1683
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 10: any of these guys I do like, I would be concerned.

1684
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 3: It's just tco. But Hoover looked pretty good.

1685
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:27,800
Speaker 5: He's a good player. Yeah, he's not considered one of

1686
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 5: those guys that Evan's talking about. It is supposed to

1687
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 5: be a strong quarterback class. I don't think arch Manning

1688
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:34,840
Speaker 5: is going to come out. But the other guys that

1689
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:37,599
Speaker 5: that Evan's talking about are all I mean, I think

1690
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 5: field Yates has one, two three right now. I don't

1691
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 5: see that. I don't see that talent. But I do

1692
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 5: like ness Meyer.

1693
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 10: Ness Meyer is smart.

1694
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 6: You can tell that he gets you can think the game,

1695
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:50,679
Speaker 6: and he can really connection there with Meyer.

1696
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 10: Will Campbell's dating his sister.

1697
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 3: Relieve, did you know that, Paul. I did not know that.

1698
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:57,599
Speaker 5: That to me is not a connection. But I thought,

1699
01:17:57,600 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 5: you mean, like I was thinking, I was thinking of

1700
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 5: his father is like a coach, Like Will.

1701
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 3: Campbell is dating his sister, that's a connection, But what

1702
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 3: the family.

1703
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 10: I did not think any of the quarterbacks looked great.

1704
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 5: No, I mean the defense. Defense is controlled almost all

1705
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 5: of the games. You know, eventually the Miami game, you know,

1706
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 5: got to like twenty seven to twenty four, But even

1707
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:23,640
Speaker 5: that game, I thought the defense is controlled most of it.

1708
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 5: And Beck is another one of those guys that a

1709
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 5: lot of people think as a fresh rounder. You know

1710
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:31,639
Speaker 5: who did throw the ball? Well, now they didn't face anybody.

1711
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:33,519
Speaker 5: Is the kid I don't really think all that much

1712
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 5: of is Drew Aller from Penn State. Yeah, but they

1713
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 5: played Nevada and they completely dominated side note Will's friend played.

1714
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 5: Oh my buddy from Bishop Fenwick. When you say played

1715
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:48,639
Speaker 5: as he did, he played late in the game tackle

1716
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:49,599
Speaker 5: defensive tackle.

1717
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's cool. Okay, back to the phones, we go

1718
01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:55,760
Speaker 3: eight five five pats five hundred to see one of

1719
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 3: your sons, Nolan earlier. We'll go back to him. Nolan's

1720
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 3: in New Hampshire. What's up, Nolan? Nolan? Wow? Two strikes

1721
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 3: and you're out. We'll go up to Boston Cream. What's up? Boston?

1722
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:10,679
Speaker 5: Crean did use a Boston Cream?

1723
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 15: No more stripes, buddy, it's a home run right now. Okay,

1724
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:18,599
Speaker 15: I got some trivia for Paul, mostly because I've been

1725
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 15: listening for almost fifteen years, and I really want a

1726
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 15: T shirt. All right, It's it's really hard to stump

1727
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:28,160
Speaker 15: Paul and be fair, but I did my best here.

1728
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 12: Paul.

1729
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:30,519
Speaker 15: You locked and loaded there, buddy, I'm ready.

1730
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 12: Okay.

1731
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 15: The name what was the name of Jellette Stadium before

1732
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:38,439
Speaker 15: you left? Bought the naming rights?

1733
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 5: CMGI Field?

1734
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:43,600
Speaker 14: Darn it?

1735
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 3: Okay, come on, I knew that one.

1736
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 15: Yeah, oh no, oh, trust me. They get more, they

1737
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 15: get more difficult. Nineteen ninety four Drew Bledsoe through the

1738
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 15: ball seventy times in a game?

1739
01:19:57,080 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 5: Who's the opponent, Paul Minnesota?

1740
01:19:59,600 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 3: Come on?

1741
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:04,599
Speaker 5: I thank Evan would have gotten I know it wasn't

1742
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:05,000
Speaker 5: even born.

1743
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 15: Okay, I'm not feeling very confident here, but that's okay.

1744
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 15: Who ended the.

1745
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 5: Forty five for seventy for four to twenty one and

1746
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 5: two touchdowns, no picks, no sacks, overtime touchdown pass to

1747
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:18,599
Speaker 5: Kevin Turner. In case you want to know any more

1748
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 5: about that.

1749
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 15: Game, I think Paul Knight might need an assessment. Was

1750
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:25,880
Speaker 15: that the spectrum this memory is crazy?

1751
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 13: Okay?

1752
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 15: Who ended the Patriots twenty one game Witten streak Pittsburgh?

1753
01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:38,360
Speaker 5: What week and what year Week seven of four?

1754
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 15: I had Week one, but no, it wasn't that.

1755
01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 3: It could be wrong, definitely wasn't wasn't a week one?

1756
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 5: They were six and oh and ty Law Brocus.

1757
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:49,639
Speaker 3: Wasn't it around Halloween?

1758
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 5: Yeah? I thought it was weeks I thought there was

1759
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 5: six and oh. Now it could have been week eight.

1760
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 5: They might have had a buye.

1761
01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:54,840
Speaker 3: I don't remember that.

1762
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 5: I don't remember the forf I'm pretty sure that they

1763
01:20:57,479 --> 01:21:01,519
Speaker 5: were six and oh and they lost at Pittsburgh. Yeah,

1764
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 5: they got They got blow blowed out at Pittsburgh. As

1765
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:05,240
Speaker 5: Evan Emmitt Smith would.

1766
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 3: Say, what happened in the playoffs, they blew Pittsburgh out.

1767
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:09,720
Speaker 5: Pittsburgh got blowed out.

1768
01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:13,320
Speaker 3: They take all right, Boston Cream, you're on the hook.

1769
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 15: Heah, No, this is my last last attempt here to

1770
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:20,599
Speaker 15: stumpfall in two thousand and seven. In the two thousand

1771
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 15: and seven season, who is the only team to come

1772
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:26,559
Speaker 15: within three points of defeating the team during the regular season?

1773
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:31,240
Speaker 5: I think that's a trick question.

1774
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 3: Who was the only team to come within three points?

1775
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:39,639
Speaker 5: So Philadelphia lost? Philadelphia lost by three, But I thought

1776
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 5: baltimoreill lose by four? Maybe, Okay, Yeah, Philadelphia I'm gonna

1777
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:45,880
Speaker 5: say thirty one, twenty eight.

1778
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 15: Okay, I'm starting not to trust my sores here.

1779
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:51,240
Speaker 5: Okay, that might be wrong.

1780
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 3: Right, Well, what's your huh?

1781
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 15: But it was twenty four to twenty to the cold

1782
01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:58,840
Speaker 15: the story, I said three, it was four points.

1783
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:03,000
Speaker 5: Okay, chez, I want to say cheez. I want to

1784
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 5: say that was an aj feely game for Philadelphia thirty

1785
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:06,680
Speaker 5: one to twenty eight.

1786
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:09,360
Speaker 3: What was the final score? That Samuel was a huge?

1787
01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 5: Oh, that was thirty eight, thirty five. That was another

1788
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 5: three point game.

1789
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 10: Twenty four to twenty Colts's correct, thirty one twenty eight, Philly.

1790
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 10: Paul got that one.

1791
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 5: That's why I said it's a trick question, because I

1792
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:20,599
Speaker 5: thought there were more three point.

1793
01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 6: Games Baltimore twenty seven to twenty four of the following week,

1794
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 6: thirty eight, thirty five Giants.

1795
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:28,720
Speaker 5: There's three three point games in a four point game?

1796
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:30,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, not every game.

1797
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:31,800
Speaker 15: I can't stump the guy.

1798
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, try again, Okay, Boston Kareem, thanks for the call. Man,

1799
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 3: send them a T shirt anyway, Man, send the man

1800
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:39,679
Speaker 3: a T shirt.

1801
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:40,759
Speaker 5: I want to be charitable.

1802
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:44,200
Speaker 3: Anyone who listened for fifteen years, you know what the

1803
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 3: hell right?

1804
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:46,840
Speaker 4: Why not give him a T shirt.

1805
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 3: All right, we got a ton of emails, A ton

1806
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:49,799
Speaker 3: of emails.

1807
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 5: Why don't you read something I will.

1808
01:22:54,720 --> 01:23:00,320
Speaker 3: We'll start with Claudio Teichman, who's writing in from Brazil. Think,

1809
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 3: uh no, that's yes, he is. He's from Brazil. He says,

1810
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:09,200
Speaker 3: did the Patriots play with white jerseys on Sunday? Doing so,

1811
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 3: it forces the Raiders to play with black jerseys. I

1812
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:15,439
Speaker 3: remember twenty ten home opener against the Bengals. We played

1813
01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 3: with white jerseys.

1814
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:19,040
Speaker 4: So if it's really sunny, they did in two thousand

1815
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:20,240
Speaker 4: and eight too, when Tom Brady got hurt.

1816
01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:22,360
Speaker 10: So I don't think it's going to be hot enough

1817
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 10: for that. This isn't this is in South Florida.

1818
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:27,200
Speaker 3: Well, we talked about like regular trivia if it has

1819
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:29,160
Speaker 3: to do with anything attire.

1820
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:32,680
Speaker 4: I like you all right, But what patches were they

1821
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:35,080
Speaker 4: wearing on Week one two thousand and eight when Tom

1822
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 4: Brady got hurt. Every team in the NFL had a

1823
01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:40,559
Speaker 4: patch on their jersey for Week one. One team wore

1824
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 4: to patch the rest of the year, but only one

1825
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:46,559
Speaker 4: game everybody in the team had a patch on there.

1826
01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 4: You remember what that patch was?

1827
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 10: Let me think, no picture Brady, you know he drops

1828
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 10: back two thousand, Oh, we got hit in the knee.

1829
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:56,439
Speaker 4: They're wearing white jerseys. There's a random, big circle patch

1830
01:23:56,560 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 4: on them, commemorating a certain someone who passed away his

1831
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:04,920
Speaker 4: initials longtime NFL PA raider.

1832
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 5: Oh, Gene Upshaw.

1833
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:08,680
Speaker 3: Guh. I was gonna say bront workware, but.

1834
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:12,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was always that. I wouldn't say the labor thing.

1835
01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:15,679
Speaker 4: I would gu that was always the Brady like whenever whatever.

1836
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 4: Watching random NFL highlights and you see like a game

1837
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,080
Speaker 4: where the two teams have the goo patch on.

1838
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:25,639
Speaker 5: I'm like week one, So I go to in ninety

1839
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:31,839
Speaker 5: four they all had seventy. Whenever I see those highlights,

1840
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:33,000
Speaker 5: I'm like, God, that was from the ninety four.

1841
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:34,479
Speaker 4: So you go, bust the cream. You could have taken

1842
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 4: my question. You would have he would have gotten the

1843
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:38,440
Speaker 4: T shirt. Well we got a T shirt anyway, didn't he? Congratulations?

1844
01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:40,040
Speaker 4: Do we send into Canada?

1845
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:45,800
Speaker 5: Any of you guys watching the Cowboys documentary series?

1846
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:48,519
Speaker 3: Watch I've got it downloaded. I haven't started it yet.

1847
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 5: I have to watch the final one. I watched the

1848
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:55,920
Speaker 5: first seven. It's it's not bad. It's not bad. It's

1849
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 5: like any other documentary you have to sort of. I

1850
01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 5: say this all the time. I'm you decide do I

1851
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:04,200
Speaker 5: want full access or do I want the unvarnished truth.

1852
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:07,200
Speaker 5: Generally you don't get both, right, and they have a

1853
01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 5: lot of access. Yeah, you know, so, I do think

1854
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:14,920
Speaker 5: Jerry Jones tries to portray himself in a manner in

1855
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 5: which I would say is a little bit yeah, disingenuous.

1856
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:21,280
Speaker 5: But it's worth watching. It's worth watching.

1857
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:22,280
Speaker 3: I've got it downloaded.

1858
01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:27,519
Speaker 10: That man loves a press conference. Watching the Micah Parsons

1859
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:29,760
Speaker 10: trade press conference, I was like, this is like theater.

1860
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:30,760
Speaker 10: I couldn't shut it off.

1861
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:33,840
Speaker 5: The other part of it is it's really true to

1862
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:36,680
Speaker 5: today because of that, because when you're watching it and

1863
01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:39,360
Speaker 5: you're like, oh these things, he went through this thirty

1864
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:41,720
Speaker 5: years ago, and it's the same thing happening now.

1865
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1866
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:44,920
Speaker 4: I was pretty surprised Parsons actually moved.

1867
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:49,760
Speaker 5: So we didn't talk about that at all. Oh, a defensive.

1868
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:52,160
Speaker 4: Tackle, I mean good defensive tackle.

1869
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 5: I think it's a good trade. I mean I think

1870
01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 5: it potentially can be a good trade for both sides.

1871
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 5: I wouldn't have done it if I were Dallas. I

1872
01:25:57,400 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 5: think I just think he's too good of a play

1873
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:01,639
Speaker 5: to willingly.

1874
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:04,040
Speaker 3: Just so you're saying you would have paid them.

1875
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 5: I would have paid him that contract.

1876
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:06,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought that's what they were going to do.

1877
01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:09,880
Speaker 10: Yeah, I can I actually can see both sides.

1878
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 5: I can see both sides.

1879
01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 10: It's a really good haul. I mean, first round pick.

1880
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:17,439
Speaker 3: I just thought about the herschel Walker thing, that's what

1881
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:18,320
Speaker 3: everyone was thinking of.

1882
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 5: But it's nothing compared to that. You know, that was

1883
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 5: eighteen players.

1884
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 10: I know thet it's different.

1885
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:24,559
Speaker 5: It's a part of that trade. They got a whole

1886
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:26,679
Speaker 5: there's a part of that trade that I and again

1887
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:29,439
Speaker 5: you get reminded of these details when you watch like

1888
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 5: a documentary like this. Do you know that they got

1889
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 5: like five players from Minnesota in addition to like I

1890
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:40,559
Speaker 5: think it was like two or three first round picks

1891
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:42,479
Speaker 5: or whatever. That there was like a handful of picks

1892
01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:45,720
Speaker 5: plus five players. But as part of the deal. Ev

1893
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:47,800
Speaker 5: you'll love this because I know you don't remember this

1894
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 5: because again you weren't alive.

1895
01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:50,840
Speaker 10: I don't think I was actually for this one.

1896
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:55,280
Speaker 5: They made an agreement. Dallas made an agreement with Minnesota.

1897
01:26:55,760 --> 01:27:01,280
Speaker 5: If any of those players gets released after the season,

1898
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:08,439
Speaker 5: they will they will require additional draft picks. So Dallas

1899
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:12,000
Speaker 5: had no intentions of keeping any of these players. Mike Linn,

1900
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:13,760
Speaker 5: who was the GM of the Vikings at the time,

1901
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 5: said yeah, yeah, you know you'll you'll keep those players.

1902
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:19,160
Speaker 5: And he didn't believe them, and he goes, no, no, no,

1903
01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:21,960
Speaker 5: And that's how they got all the additional first round picks.

1904
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:25,680
Speaker 3: Right from from that, they got Aikman right then they

1905
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:26,519
Speaker 3: get three.

1906
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:28,400
Speaker 5: No, I don't think it was they got Smith. I

1907
01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:30,360
Speaker 5: think it was Emmitt Smith is the only one of

1908
01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:33,120
Speaker 5: the big three. But they have like Darren Woodson, I

1909
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:35,600
Speaker 5: mean Hall of Fame players. I want to say, like

1910
01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:39,280
Speaker 5: Darren Woodson, Russell Maryland, guys like that. They mean the

1911
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 5: core of their team they built there. I think some

1912
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:43,200
Speaker 5: of the linemen were part of those, but it was

1913
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:44,879
Speaker 5: ended up being eighteen players.

1914
01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:49,759
Speaker 10: But trades like obviously you're not times have changed.

1915
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:52,640
Speaker 5: You're never going to see something now, right, But it's

1916
01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:54,840
Speaker 5: I think it's a good haul for Dallas. And I

1917
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 5: think if you're green Bay, you're a really good team.

1918
01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:01,400
Speaker 5: You kind of stuck behind some other really good teams

1919
01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:03,400
Speaker 5: and maybe this puts you over the top. So I

1920
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 5: understand what Green Bay is looking at. It is like

1921
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:07,680
Speaker 5: we're going to be picking from what twenty five to

1922
01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 5: thirty two ish, so the two first round picks. Yeah,

1923
01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:14,680
Speaker 5: no one wants to lose first round picks, but end

1924
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:17,559
Speaker 5: of the first round probably if everything goes right.

1925
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:19,560
Speaker 4: And if and if somebody told you you're going to

1926
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:21,599
Speaker 4: hit on a Micah Parsons on one of the next

1927
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:24,160
Speaker 4: two first round picks, would you take that bet?

1928
01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:26,920
Speaker 10: I mean his age helps too, Like he's only twenty seven.

1929
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:28,800
Speaker 4: I mean, these players don't come along off and that's

1930
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:30,519
Speaker 4: don't get a lot of these deals with guys in

1931
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:32,320
Speaker 4: that prime like that, and there's like, you know, people

1932
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:34,200
Speaker 4: want to say, like, oh, Brandon Iyuk, you know, like

1933
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:35,840
Speaker 4: and they know that those are good players and stuff,

1934
01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:39,479
Speaker 4: but there's just like AJ Brown, Michaeh Parsons, there's a

1935
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:43,200
Speaker 4: select handful of Khalil Mack, true special Khalil Mack trade

1936
01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:44,960
Speaker 4: and people look at that and what did you do

1937
01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:45,599
Speaker 4: for Chicago?

1938
01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:48,639
Speaker 5: It wasn't because of Khalil Mack. He was really good

1939
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:50,720
Speaker 5: for the Bears for a couple of years and he

1940
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:52,439
Speaker 5: was I think only twenty seven at the time.

1941
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:55,479
Speaker 10: Parson's a better player, yeah, better all around.

1942
01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:59,599
Speaker 3: H Dana. When Chicago writes in Pumped it's finally game

1943
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:03,479
Speaker 3: week question, does Morgan Moses not being a captain mean

1944
01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 3: they expect Marcus Bryant to overtake him at right tackle

1945
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:07,080
Speaker 3: in the near future.

1946
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:09,519
Speaker 6: I wouldn't look that much into it, but I was

1947
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:12,800
Speaker 6: surprised that Morgan mos wasn't a captain. Yeah, but I

1948
01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:16,439
Speaker 6: wouldn't jump to that conclusion about it being depth chart related.

1949
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:19,839
Speaker 6: I just I don't know, so obviously something else related.

1950
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:22,400
Speaker 4: But yeah, that was interurprised too, especially as we've been

1951
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:23,880
Speaker 4: in the locker room a little bit more. And you see,

1952
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:26,960
Speaker 4: I don't mean this in a negative connotation, like he's

1953
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:28,519
Speaker 4: a little bit of a pie piper, Like he seems

1954
01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:31,160
Speaker 4: like he's talking to everybody and everybody checks in with him.

1955
01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:34,120
Speaker 4: And I saw him like just busting Kaden Wallace as chops.

1956
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:36,439
Speaker 4: You know, it seems like he has those vibes. But

1957
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:38,559
Speaker 4: I was surprised that he wasn't.

1958
01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:43,880
Speaker 3: Cody writes in the One Elephant in the Room for

1959
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 3: me is are we getting close to hitting the panic

1960
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:49,560
Speaker 3: button on whatever is going on with Gonzales.

1961
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 4: I wouldn't hit the panet really. I mean, I think

1962
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:55,639
Speaker 4: he's definitely concerned and it's not ideal, but I still

1963
01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:57,960
Speaker 4: stick with what Paul's kind of say, like I want

1964
01:29:58,040 --> 01:29:59,800
Speaker 4: him for the bulk of the season. I want to

1965
01:29:59,880 --> 01:30:02,040
Speaker 4: end the season well, like I don't want to rush

1966
01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:04,360
Speaker 4: him out there and put everything we have to get

1967
01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:07,120
Speaker 4: a Week one win over the Raiders and then he's

1968
01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:09,479
Speaker 4: lost for the season. You know, I'd rather have him

1969
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:11,519
Speaker 4: one hundred percent at the end when you're gonna win

1970
01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:14,360
Speaker 4: games and maybe put a nice whatever it could be

1971
01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:17,040
Speaker 4: nice finish to the season, whether it's you know, preventing

1972
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:19,280
Speaker 4: someone from making the playoffs, making the playoffs yourself, just

1973
01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:21,240
Speaker 4: finishing with a couple of wins that give you some

1974
01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:22,799
Speaker 4: confidence going into the next offseason.

1975
01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:31,160
Speaker 3: Okay, a lot of uniform stuff. I guess the Rivalry's

1976
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:36,400
Speaker 3: release last week got people thinking. But David Mayne a

1977
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:41,120
Speaker 3: lot of Peppers emails too. I too was surprised by

1978
01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:44,040
Speaker 3: the cutting of Drabrill Peppers. This is David Maine. I

1979
01:30:44,160 --> 01:30:47,240
Speaker 3: said that already. My first thought was that Putts Elliott

1980
01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:50,600
Speaker 3: we Wolf cut the wrong safety, followed by shot that

1981
01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:53,160
Speaker 3: they couldn't have at least traded him for something. Now

1982
01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 3: I tend to think that they were saving money for

1983
01:30:55,360 --> 01:31:01,559
Speaker 3: someone special. Do you think, yeah, Nuggets, do you think

1984
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:05,160
Speaker 3: that they are just budgeting for Gonzales next year, followed

1985
01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:07,840
Speaker 3: by may or do you or do they want to

1986
01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 3: have cash at the trade deadline? Or maybe both? What

1987
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:13,719
Speaker 3: do you guys think? By the way, congrats on hiring Claudia.

1988
01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:18,640
Speaker 3: Unfortunately Claudia is not with us anymore. Uh. Claudia was

1989
01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:21,240
Speaker 3: offered and accepted a job with CBS.

1990
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:25,840
Speaker 5: S Fred out did himself and his kingmaking or queen

1991
01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:29,240
Speaker 5: making abilities. It didn't even take a season.

1992
01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:32,880
Speaker 3: It took two shows, two shows with us, and boom, Yeah,

1993
01:31:33,320 --> 01:31:36,000
Speaker 3: she's going. She's moving to Florida to work for CBIN

1994
01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:38,599
Speaker 3: what I was getting. I really liked her. They saw

1995
01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:41,160
Speaker 3: her on our show, and CBS hired her.

1996
01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:44,840
Speaker 5: That's CBS network. I believe she's going to be on Saturdays.

1997
01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:47,639
Speaker 5: So I'm not exactly sure. I think the h Q show.

1998
01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:50,160
Speaker 5: I think she mentioned to us, Mike, So yeah, I

1999
01:31:50,240 --> 01:31:51,519
Speaker 5: been working looking out for that.

2000
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 3: She's like a good kid. So I'm working on at

2001
01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:55,040
Speaker 3: her house for her. I'm working on it.

2002
01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:58,800
Speaker 5: Mike, you're up this week, just me and you, buddy,

2003
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:00,880
Speaker 5: you call me. We don't need we don't need no hosts.

2004
01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:01,320
Speaker 4: I'm ready.

2005
01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:03,560
Speaker 5: Hey, Uh, you know, we don't want you if you

2006
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:05,080
Speaker 5: don't want to be part of this show. It's just

2007
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:06,880
Speaker 5: me and Mike. By the way, we're down together. Bro

2008
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:08,519
Speaker 5: won twin Powers.

2009
01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:11,519
Speaker 4: One more quick joke though, like the Jabil Peppers post

2010
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:14,200
Speaker 4: where it was like, I've been through seven different head coaches.

2011
01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:15,760
Speaker 4: Like it felt like somebody be like, I've been through

2012
01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:18,280
Speaker 4: seven marriages. I know what it takes to make it work,

2013
01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:21,080
Speaker 4: you know, like, I don't know if you're making I

2014
01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:21,360
Speaker 4: know what.

2015
01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:23,280
Speaker 5: His point was about the same thing, but I do

2016
01:32:23,439 --> 01:32:25,320
Speaker 5: like I've been through seven head coaches. I don't think

2017
01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:37,200
Speaker 5: that means what you think it right, right, I wasn't listening.

2018
01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:39,160
Speaker 5: The guy's been in the league for eight or nine years,

2019
01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:41,720
Speaker 5: he's been with seven different head coaches. I don't think

2020
01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:43,960
Speaker 5: that's a feather in your cap, right. I think that

2021
01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:45,880
Speaker 5: means you've been around a lot of losing yep.

2022
01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:48,200
Speaker 4: I mean he said it. He's never won a playoff game.

2023
01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:50,080
Speaker 4: He's you know, I don't know he's played in the

2024
01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:50,720
Speaker 4: playoff robin.

2025
01:32:50,800 --> 01:32:52,880
Speaker 5: He's never had a winning season, winning season.

2026
01:32:55,160 --> 01:32:55,400
Speaker 3: True.

2027
01:32:56,120 --> 01:32:58,920
Speaker 5: See now Mike will now take part in that because

2028
01:32:58,920 --> 01:33:01,800
Speaker 5: he's no longer on the page. I don't snap back

2029
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:03,200
Speaker 5: at me when I said that Paull texted me.

2030
01:33:03,280 --> 01:33:05,080
Speaker 4: Paul texted me, they're like saw your fear loss, which

2031
01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:07,320
Speaker 4: a few people did while I was on Friday sitting

2032
01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:09,439
Speaker 4: on the beach, just which.

2033
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:12,600
Speaker 10: I love how he puts that in there, like I

2034
01:33:12,680 --> 01:33:13,439
Speaker 10: wasn't even painted.

2035
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:18,640
Speaker 4: I'm yeah, But I texted pallback it was all it

2036
01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:21,719
Speaker 4: was all downhill after he started wearing the Garden Games.

2037
01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:26,519
Speaker 3: That's when I was out. It's all about fashion produced

2038
01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:30,120
Speaker 3: Robin in the Caskills. I've heard different opinions about how

2039
01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:32,920
Speaker 3: Josh is going to use Drake. Will there be designed

2040
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:35,120
Speaker 3: runs for him or do they not want him to run?

2041
01:33:35,200 --> 01:33:37,559
Speaker 3: Do you think he'll run more or less than last year?

2042
01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:40,760
Speaker 10: I think there will be more runs by design. I

2043
01:33:40,840 --> 01:33:44,120
Speaker 10: think the goal is to run less overall, but more

2044
01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:47,679
Speaker 10: runs by design. I think in particular like their low

2045
01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:51,320
Speaker 10: red zone goal line package. I'm very excited to see

2046
01:33:51,360 --> 01:33:52,799
Speaker 10: that come.

2047
01:33:52,720 --> 01:33:54,760
Speaker 5: To life because I agree with everything you just said.

2048
01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:57,559
Speaker 10: I think there's gonna be some cool bells and whistles

2049
01:33:57,600 --> 01:34:00,360
Speaker 10: once they get inside the five to punched them in

2050
01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:02,880
Speaker 10: that Drake will be involved in.

2051
01:34:03,479 --> 01:34:05,880
Speaker 4: Well, Kim Newton twenty twenty, Well you're getting your next

2052
01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:06,799
Speaker 4: email ready, Freddie.

2053
01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:09,479
Speaker 5: I wanted to go back to a couple of emails

2054
01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:15,280
Speaker 5: ago about the Peppers release and just blame for Elliott Wolf.

2055
01:34:16,840 --> 01:34:19,320
Speaker 5: No one legitimately believes that Elliot Wolf had anything to

2056
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:21,160
Speaker 5: do with releasing Jabrill Peppers, do they.

2057
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:26,519
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure he was in on the decision,

2058
01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:28,400
Speaker 3: but it was Rabel's decision.

2059
01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:32,240
Speaker 5: Right, I mean, if the head coach, I'm sorry if

2060
01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:34,599
Speaker 5: I'm not being disrespectful to Elliott Wolf, but I think

2061
01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:36,200
Speaker 5: that's a head coach decision, right.

2062
01:34:37,439 --> 01:34:39,160
Speaker 4: The GM isn't going to tell the code coach who

2063
01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:40,439
Speaker 4: doesn't fit in his scheme, right.

2064
01:34:40,439 --> 01:34:43,840
Speaker 5: Right, even if it's about scheme, not about scheme whatever.

2065
01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:46,479
Speaker 5: I want to release this guy, and it's not about

2066
01:34:46,479 --> 01:34:49,040
Speaker 5: the cap. It's not about the cap, it's not about

2067
01:34:49,080 --> 01:34:51,519
Speaker 5: anything in the future. They decided, you know, I think

2068
01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:52,960
Speaker 5: Rabel just wants his guys.

2069
01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:58,599
Speaker 3: Wasn't Travis and West Virginia and Josh McDaniel's twenty fifteen offense,

2070
01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:02,479
Speaker 3: Deon Lewis was out of a cannon, averaging seven carries

2071
01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:05,160
Speaker 3: and seven targets per game through the first seven games.

2072
01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:09,600
Speaker 3: Can Trevion Henderson approach the same volume right away or

2073
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:11,080
Speaker 3: will he need to build up to it?

2074
01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:14,720
Speaker 5: Seven carries. Absolutely can do that. Yeah, I just don't

2075
01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:17,320
Speaker 5: think he can be between the tackles every down back.

2076
01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:19,720
Speaker 10: I think he's gonna touch the ball at least fifteen times.

2077
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:21,439
Speaker 5: But you want to give him ten to fifteen touches

2078
01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:23,000
Speaker 5: a game, I think you can. Absolutely.

2079
01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:26,160
Speaker 4: It's an interesting calm. I mean it's Dean Lewis was

2080
01:35:26,280 --> 01:35:29,920
Speaker 4: much smaller, but more Yeah, it was different player, but

2081
01:35:30,040 --> 01:35:33,280
Speaker 4: still just the willingness to give a high volume of carry,

2082
01:35:33,640 --> 01:35:36,280
Speaker 4: high volume, but a significant volume of carries and touches

2083
01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:38,599
Speaker 4: to a guy that I mean they caught up with him, right,

2084
01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:40,679
Speaker 4: I mean he couldn't stay healthy getting hurt.

2085
01:35:40,600 --> 01:35:40,760
Speaker 1: You know.

2086
01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:42,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was dynamic for.

2087
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:46,519
Speaker 4: Us that run against Dallas, remember that one where he

2088
01:35:46,640 --> 01:35:48,160
Speaker 4: was like just stucking under guys.

2089
01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:54,599
Speaker 10: Remember, well, different players but similar in times of usage.

2090
01:35:54,760 --> 01:35:56,880
Speaker 10: I could see that. But Dian Lowis is a pretty

2091
01:35:56,920 --> 01:35:58,280
Speaker 10: high volume back for them.

2092
01:35:59,640 --> 01:36:05,960
Speaker 3: Rabels played him over Dereck Henry, who situationally the only

2093
01:36:06,040 --> 01:36:08,080
Speaker 3: brighter flash with Jonah Derek Henry.

2094
01:36:08,120 --> 01:36:08,720
Speaker 12: It is what it is.

2095
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:11,320
Speaker 3: Remember Jonas Gray for that one game against.

2096
01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:12,200
Speaker 5: Two hundred yards.

2097
01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:14,600
Speaker 4: Jonas Gray has been around a lot. We've got no

2098
01:36:16,200 --> 01:36:17,080
Speaker 4: I don't know, he's a great guy.

2099
01:36:17,120 --> 01:36:19,160
Speaker 5: Though I can't get but I can't get him out

2100
01:36:19,160 --> 01:36:19,639
Speaker 5: of my feet.

2101
01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:23,000
Speaker 6: He's an ambassador, he's a good guy. Yeah, we've gotten

2102
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:24,920
Speaker 6: to meet dude, like.

2103
01:36:26,439 --> 01:36:31,479
Speaker 4: He's always wearing when you guys the hype guys when

2104
01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:36,800
Speaker 4: seeing him draft draft party stuff, And we did a

2105
01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:38,600
Speaker 4: draft party with him, and I think that's where we

2106
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:40,479
Speaker 4: kind of got to still like a little time in

2107
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:42,240
Speaker 4: the in the green room as they call it, Paul

2108
01:36:42,280 --> 01:36:45,559
Speaker 4: in the in the TV industry, we hang jonas every time.

2109
01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:47,800
Speaker 3: Those green rooms. You spent a lot of time in

2110
01:36:47,880 --> 01:36:48,400
Speaker 3: green rooms.

2111
01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:51,280
Speaker 4: I have Oh yeah, do they have those at the NBC?

2112
01:36:51,600 --> 01:36:54,479
Speaker 3: Waiting to go on? Is there a green room at

2113
01:36:54,880 --> 01:36:58,679
Speaker 3: your show's note eight point five On the side, there's

2114
01:36:58,680 --> 01:36:59,479
Speaker 3: no waiting area.

2115
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:05,040
Speaker 5: There's there's different places that you can go, but I've

2116
01:37:05,120 --> 01:37:07,960
Speaker 5: never been. It's like it's like an office. On one side,

2117
01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:10,560
Speaker 5: there's a little small area with a couple of computers

2118
01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:15,320
Speaker 5: where generally the next show kind of congregates. So like

2119
01:37:15,400 --> 01:37:18,280
Speaker 5: if I'm doing the ten to two show, yes, I'll

2120
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:21,400
Speaker 5: sit in this little area I see and there's a

2121
01:37:21,439 --> 01:37:24,839
Speaker 5: couple of computers over there where Tom Morrigan and Tyler Milliken,

2122
01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:27,120
Speaker 5: the two producers of the ten to two show. They're

2123
01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:29,920
Speaker 5: on their computers, get stuff ready. But I wouldn't call

2124
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:30,519
Speaker 5: it a green room.

2125
01:37:30,800 --> 01:37:34,040
Speaker 4: Okay, it's pretty cool that works on a big show.

2126
01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:38,479
Speaker 5: Joseph and Hillsboro, Oregon to ten am yesterday.

2127
01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:40,960
Speaker 4: I urge you a little different, bringing in different the

2128
01:37:41,040 --> 01:37:42,519
Speaker 4: pels flowing like five point thirty.

2129
01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:44,840
Speaker 5: I did have a Celsius for I have my first

2130
01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:45,639
Speaker 5: ever Celsius.

2131
01:37:45,800 --> 01:37:46,840
Speaker 3: Got a little bump out of that.

2132
01:37:47,640 --> 01:37:51,040
Speaker 5: I don't really feel like I did, but really it's

2133
01:37:51,200 --> 01:37:52,360
Speaker 5: that doesn't taste bad though.

2134
01:37:52,520 --> 01:37:55,200
Speaker 3: No, but how did you not get a bump out

2135
01:37:55,240 --> 01:37:59,640
Speaker 3: of that? Because that's like ten times more caffeinated than pei.

2136
01:38:01,200 --> 01:38:04,679
Speaker 10: Kind of bumper bumper, you know, I didn't energy bump.

2137
01:38:04,720 --> 01:38:08,680
Speaker 5: I didn't notice anything. But I don't know. So you

2138
01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:10,519
Speaker 5: know a little bit about Celsius. I did not a

2139
01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:12,200
Speaker 5: sponsor A little bit. I'm not saying anything.

2140
01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:14,040
Speaker 3: I think pe Okay.

2141
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:15,479
Speaker 5: I just don't want to make I don't want to

2142
01:38:15,479 --> 01:38:19,599
Speaker 5: get in trouble like so if you have like two

2143
01:38:19,640 --> 01:38:22,680
Speaker 5: of those, you probably shouldn't. I was gonna say f no,

2144
01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:25,720
Speaker 5: but no, no, okay, no, That's why I was asking no,

2145
01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:29,479
Speaker 5: because I I definitely want I definitely wanted another one

2146
01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:33,120
Speaker 5: because you know, like I usually in shows, I wanted another,

2147
01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:34,480
Speaker 5: Like I drink a lot of diapesty.

2148
01:38:35,560 --> 01:38:38,559
Speaker 3: That's the thing about you, though, I forget. You don't

2149
01:38:38,640 --> 01:38:39,880
Speaker 3: just have one diet pepsi.

2150
01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:41,519
Speaker 5: You have like ten, I've had two.

2151
01:38:42,320 --> 01:38:43,560
Speaker 3: You are having a celsius.

2152
01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:46,400
Speaker 5: I'm not necessarily to do it, but ten that's a stretch.

2153
01:38:46,479 --> 01:38:47,280
Speaker 3: Well not really.

2154
01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:50,040
Speaker 5: But I had one celsius and I liked it.

2155
01:38:50,120 --> 01:38:50,519
Speaker 12: It was good.

2156
01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:53,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't notice like I was waiting to feel

2157
01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:55,439
Speaker 5: like my heart start pounding out of my chest and

2158
01:38:55,520 --> 01:38:57,840
Speaker 5: my eyes because I don't drink those energy drinks.

2159
01:38:58,160 --> 01:39:00,680
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I had the kids all stuff, and I

2160
01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:01,160
Speaker 3: feel it.

2161
01:39:01,479 --> 01:39:03,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've never I've never had a celsiate my whole life.

2162
01:39:04,560 --> 01:39:05,200
Speaker 3: That was my first.

2163
01:39:05,280 --> 01:39:08,600
Speaker 10: You should not have you drink like three things of

2164
01:39:08,680 --> 01:39:10,320
Speaker 10: a duncan nice coffee, And.

2165
01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:15,040
Speaker 5: He starts doing a little dance. Yeah no, there's the

2166
01:39:15,080 --> 01:39:15,600
Speaker 5: gritty in the.

2167
01:39:15,920 --> 01:39:16,680
Speaker 3: Compet to day for me.

2168
01:39:16,720 --> 01:39:17,519
Speaker 4: Actually did have a coffin.

2169
01:39:17,720 --> 01:39:18,080
Speaker 5: Sorry I did.

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Speaker 4: I stopped the Duncan I did anyway.

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01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:22,200
Speaker 3: Joseph is in Hillsboro, Ore. Again. He says, when our

2172
01:39:22,280 --> 01:39:25,040
Speaker 3: defense is fully healthy, what eleven do you envision most

2173
01:39:25,080 --> 01:39:29,840
Speaker 3: consistently being on the field in third and long situations.

2174
01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:34,920
Speaker 4: They have Barmore, Williams, Chase, Chase On, Chase on Splaine Splaine,

2175
01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:38,679
Speaker 4: and then yeah, but like who's the who is the six?

2176
01:39:39,200 --> 01:39:46,720
Speaker 6: Landry Davis, Austin Woodson, Hawkins, Marcustration.

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01:39:46,800 --> 01:39:51,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I just like we're talking about these a lot.

2178
01:39:51,200 --> 01:39:53,000
Speaker 4: I'm not really saying key on White much like I

2179
01:39:53,120 --> 01:39:55,680
Speaker 4: just I wonder if he's he could be in the

2180
01:39:55,720 --> 01:39:57,760
Speaker 4: mix for one of those interior ushpots. You know what

2181
01:39:57,800 --> 01:39:59,639
Speaker 4: I want to bring up, though, is Barmore because he's

2182
01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:02,960
Speaker 4: been he's been, Like I don't think anyone talks about this.

2183
01:40:03,240 --> 01:40:05,439
Speaker 4: He's been in and out of practice all summer long.

2184
01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:08,960
Speaker 4: He's misfund practice. Is he going to step right in

2185
01:40:09,240 --> 01:40:12,360
Speaker 4: on Sunday and play eighty percent? I find that guard

2186
01:40:12,479 --> 01:40:14,440
Speaker 4: to believe. I found it hard to believe.

2187
01:40:14,680 --> 01:40:18,360
Speaker 5: The almost you almost never do that opening day anyway.

2188
01:40:18,439 --> 01:40:22,760
Speaker 4: But especially he might have like a third down because

2189
01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:24,240
Speaker 4: we talked about who's going to start, and I was

2190
01:40:24,280 --> 01:40:26,960
Speaker 4: looking at Barmore and I'm like, it could be Tonga,

2191
01:40:27,080 --> 01:40:30,280
Speaker 4: it could be just Tonga and Williams, and then Barmore becomes.

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01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:31,920
Speaker 5: But I'm going to guess Pete Carroll's going to want

2193
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:34,160
Speaker 5: to do what Evan says that Josh McDaniels is going

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01:40:34,240 --> 01:40:36,280
Speaker 5: to want to do, and it's going to be feed

2195
01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:38,640
Speaker 5: Ashton Genty And if that happens, if that's what they

2196
01:40:38,680 --> 01:40:41,200
Speaker 5: look like they're going to do, Tonga is going to

2197
01:40:41,240 --> 01:40:41,599
Speaker 5: be in there.

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01:40:41,720 --> 01:40:41,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Maybe the new guys you bring up Pete Carroll, we

2200
01:40:45,160 --> 01:40:47,280
Speaker 3: haven't really talked about him, the new head coach of

2201
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Speaker 3: the Raiders. Are the Raiders of well coached team? I mean,

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01:40:50,680 --> 01:40:53,760
Speaker 3: you got Pete Carroll's head coach. You got Chip Kelly, right,

2203
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:56,400
Speaker 3: yea coaching their offense.

2204
01:40:56,360 --> 01:40:58,400
Speaker 5: And Patrick Graham and Patrick Friend.

2205
01:40:58,439 --> 01:41:00,360
Speaker 3: I know you hate that term, but is that is

2206
01:41:00,400 --> 01:41:03,360
Speaker 3: that a well coached team? Like on paper?

2207
01:41:03,439 --> 01:41:03,719
Speaker 5: Shoot?

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01:41:03,800 --> 01:41:06,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think so. I mean, it'd be

2209
01:41:06,360 --> 01:41:09,760
Speaker 6: really interesting to me to see what Chip does. I mean,

2210
01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:11,679
Speaker 6: it's the first time he's in the NFL in almost

2211
01:41:11,720 --> 01:41:15,880
Speaker 6: a decade. Twenty sixteen with the Niners is the last time.

2212
01:41:16,080 --> 01:41:18,559
Speaker 3: But he's been known to be innovative, right he has.

2213
01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:20,880
Speaker 6: But I actually think that he's gone the other way

2214
01:41:20,960 --> 01:41:24,320
Speaker 6: because his offenses really weren't NFL conducive. They weren't really

2215
01:41:24,400 --> 01:41:28,160
Speaker 6: pro style, so you know, they they really slowed down

2216
01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:30,160
Speaker 6: the pace a lot at Ohio State last year and

2217
01:41:30,600 --> 01:41:33,320
Speaker 6: went under center more and you know, did a lot

2218
01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:36,000
Speaker 6: more pro style elements to their offense to try to

2219
01:41:37,360 --> 01:41:41,160
Speaker 6: win a national championship. So I think that there the

2220
01:41:41,240 --> 01:41:43,640
Speaker 6: offenses that you saw him run like in Philly and

2221
01:41:43,720 --> 01:41:46,880
Speaker 6: in Oregon, that offense is dead. He's kind of gone

2222
01:41:46,880 --> 01:41:49,439
Speaker 6: away from that. So what he does is going to

2223
01:41:49,479 --> 01:41:51,800
Speaker 6: be interesting though. But you know, I think it's a

2224
01:41:51,880 --> 01:41:54,880
Speaker 6: big unknown about this game. Guys hasn't coached in the

2225
01:41:55,000 --> 01:41:57,759
Speaker 6: NFL in ten years. You know, It's yeah, it's unknown

2226
01:41:57,840 --> 01:41:58,439
Speaker 6: for sure.

2227
01:41:58,960 --> 01:42:01,920
Speaker 3: Ran Idaho. As the beginning of the regular season is

2228
01:42:02,000 --> 01:42:05,720
Speaker 3: upon us, I'd like to reignite an old argument the

2229
01:42:05,800 --> 01:42:08,800
Speaker 3: weekly picks need to stay. I love the segment of

2230
01:42:08,840 --> 01:42:11,040
Speaker 3: the show and enjoy hearing your insight on each matchup.

2231
01:42:11,160 --> 01:42:13,960
Speaker 3: Might I suggest one thing to make the pick segment

2232
01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:16,880
Speaker 3: even better? I would love it if you would add

2233
01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:19,800
Speaker 3: a future to allow listeners to submit their picks and

2234
01:42:19,920 --> 01:42:22,599
Speaker 3: compete with each other as well as with the ball knowers.

2235
01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:25,880
Speaker 3: Maybe there could be a weekly prize for the fans

2236
01:42:25,960 --> 01:42:28,240
Speaker 3: with the best picks, and a prize at the end

2237
01:42:28,280 --> 01:42:30,160
Speaker 3: of the season for the overall winner. I think This

2238
01:42:30,280 --> 01:42:32,600
Speaker 3: would make it so much fun to be able to

2239
01:42:32,680 --> 01:42:36,160
Speaker 3: interact in a small way be part of the show. Plus,

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Speaker 3: I'd love to have bragging rights over fans like Christian

2241
01:42:38,520 --> 01:42:42,280
Speaker 3: in La James Pettigrew the most interesting Patris fan of

2242
01:42:42,320 --> 01:42:44,880
Speaker 3: the world in Patty and Agawam. But how do you

2243
01:42:45,000 --> 01:42:46,800
Speaker 3: do that without really slowing it down?

2244
01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:49,360
Speaker 10: Well, you know, they could submit them online, but I

2245
01:42:49,400 --> 01:42:51,760
Speaker 10: don't think maybe it's like more like a newsletter thing

2246
01:42:51,840 --> 01:42:55,240
Speaker 10: that where we could like, yeah, show some of the

2247
01:42:55,320 --> 01:42:58,160
Speaker 10: picks of the fans. Like, I don't think to your

2248
01:42:58,240 --> 01:43:00,800
Speaker 10: point it would be too slow to do it on

2249
01:43:00,880 --> 01:43:01,200
Speaker 10: the show.

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Speaker 3: I mean there might be something there for some type

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01:43:04,040 --> 01:43:05,560
Speaker 3: of fan engagement.

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01:43:06,040 --> 01:43:08,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe we're the top five fan records, you know.

2253
01:43:09,080 --> 01:43:09,519
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

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01:43:10,439 --> 01:43:13,680
Speaker 6: I don't know if any place does full picks though,

2255
01:43:13,720 --> 01:43:15,800
Speaker 6: like we do it like where it's you're literally picking

2256
01:43:15,840 --> 01:43:20,719
Speaker 6: all fourteen sixteen games, and survivor pools are obviously really popular,

2257
01:43:20,760 --> 01:43:23,559
Speaker 6: but that's a different animal, that's a different sort of thing.

2258
01:43:23,680 --> 01:43:28,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, so, uh, pat Nagawam a little uh listener on

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01:43:28,760 --> 01:43:32,640
Speaker 3: Listener Crime. Here he says this is for Travis in

2260
01:43:32,720 --> 01:43:37,000
Speaker 3: West Virginia. Don't ask real football questions because it displays

2261
01:43:37,040 --> 01:43:40,360
Speaker 3: your intelligence or lack thereof, stick to doing what you

2262
01:43:40,520 --> 01:43:43,320
Speaker 3: do best, crapping on me the subject matter of the

2263
01:43:43,400 --> 01:43:48,360
Speaker 3: offseason and being the general malignant turd with incorporeal takes.

2264
01:43:49,160 --> 01:43:52,920
Speaker 5: In corporeal, Yeah, I don't know that word incorporeal.

2265
01:43:53,280 --> 01:43:56,320
Speaker 3: I don't know. Anyway, you're smart.

2266
01:43:56,520 --> 01:43:59,000
Speaker 5: You went to Holy Cross, Mighty Travis.

2267
01:43:59,040 --> 01:44:03,799
Speaker 3: Does Travis wrap on Patty and Aguamal. I don't even remember.

2268
01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:06,600
Speaker 3: I don't even remember what his football question was. It

2269
01:44:06,760 --> 01:44:09,960
Speaker 3: was it that dumb I don't remember. I don't know.

2270
01:44:12,360 --> 01:44:14,240
Speaker 5: I'm still trying to figure out what that word means.

2271
01:44:15,720 --> 01:44:19,640
Speaker 3: Let's see, Zach, I was literally going to make a

2272
01:44:19,760 --> 01:44:22,160
Speaker 3: joke that Claudia will be gone halfway through the season.

2273
01:44:22,360 --> 01:44:26,400
Speaker 3: Two shows, not even one regular season show. That's nuts, Fred,

2274
01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:28,120
Speaker 3: congratulations to her.

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01:44:28,960 --> 01:44:32,480
Speaker 4: It means not composed of matter, having no material existence.

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01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:34,120
Speaker 3: Okay, that's dark.

2277
01:44:36,120 --> 01:44:37,920
Speaker 5: I don't hear you unless you knock first.

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01:44:38,160 --> 01:44:43,960
Speaker 3: Darius brings something up that's interesting from Louisville, A little

2279
01:44:44,040 --> 01:44:47,200
Speaker 3: question observation. While everyone is worried about brock Bauers, my

2280
01:44:47,320 --> 01:44:50,439
Speaker 3: biggest concern will be asked in genty. The dude looks

2281
01:44:50,479 --> 01:44:53,240
Speaker 3: like a tank. Deuce can attest to that, and I'm

2282
01:44:53,320 --> 01:44:56,160
Speaker 3: not sold on our run defense yet. Hopefully we'll be

2283
01:44:56,240 --> 01:44:58,720
Speaker 3: able to stop the run in fronnel the offense to

2284
01:44:58,840 --> 01:45:02,760
Speaker 3: our defensive strengths quarters in D line. So what's the

2285
01:45:02,840 --> 01:45:05,720
Speaker 3: deal on genty? What kind of summer did he have?

2286
01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:07,439
Speaker 3: And should we be worried?

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01:45:07,600 --> 01:45:11,040
Speaker 6: I think it's an interesting like kind of weakness on

2288
01:45:11,160 --> 01:45:13,240
Speaker 6: weakness in some ways, because I don't know if the

2289
01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:17,240
Speaker 6: infrastructure's there with the Raiders right now to really have

2290
01:45:17,439 --> 01:45:19,880
Speaker 6: a great running game in terms of the offensive line

2291
01:45:19,920 --> 01:45:23,000
Speaker 6: and things like that. So I don't know if they

2292
01:45:23,360 --> 01:45:25,640
Speaker 6: necessarily have it set up for him quite yet to

2293
01:45:25,720 --> 01:45:29,560
Speaker 6: be a true you know Derrick Henry, Like, did we

2294
01:45:29,640 --> 01:45:33,080
Speaker 6: got to worry about this guy type of thing the preseasons?

2295
01:45:33,200 --> 01:45:33,400
Speaker 3: Really?

2296
01:45:33,720 --> 01:45:35,600
Speaker 10: He can't go off much, but he didn't run the

2297
01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:37,760
Speaker 10: ball particularly well in the preseason, and they.

2298
01:45:37,880 --> 01:45:41,360
Speaker 5: Were, to Evan's point, dead last in rushing last year

2299
01:45:42,040 --> 01:45:44,400
Speaker 5: with a lot of the same offensive linemen. So I

2300
01:45:44,439 --> 01:45:46,360
Speaker 5: don't know how much better, you know, I don't know.

2301
01:45:46,760 --> 01:45:48,280
Speaker 5: I don't know how many changes they've made on the

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01:45:48,280 --> 01:45:49,640
Speaker 5: offensive line. I shouldn't say with a lot of.

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01:45:49,640 --> 01:45:51,439
Speaker 10: Them, I'd be more worried about them throwing the ball

2304
01:45:51,479 --> 01:45:53,040
Speaker 10: to Genta, yeah, than him running it.

2305
01:45:53,200 --> 01:45:55,760
Speaker 5: But I but I do, I do feel like that's

2306
01:45:56,000 --> 01:45:59,840
Speaker 5: a sneaky weakness for this Patriots defense just stopping them.

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01:46:00,240 --> 01:46:00,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:46:00,439 --> 01:46:02,080
Speaker 5: I think they're a little bit smaller, a little bit

2309
01:46:02,120 --> 01:46:06,200
Speaker 5: more athletic based, and sometimes those teams can be susceptible

2310
01:46:06,240 --> 01:46:09,360
Speaker 5: to the run. And gent d breaks tackles.

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01:46:09,880 --> 01:46:12,080
Speaker 4: It's great, that's what he does. It's a great philosophical

2312
01:46:12,160 --> 01:46:15,000
Speaker 4: question and one that we've talked about a lot where

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01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:17,320
Speaker 4: you had that old heavy defense with the Patriots that

2314
01:46:17,400 --> 01:46:19,519
Speaker 4: felt like it was built to stop the run, and

2315
01:46:19,680 --> 01:46:23,400
Speaker 4: consistently they had good run defenses. But you know, is

2316
01:46:23,479 --> 01:46:26,080
Speaker 4: it going to work that Let's just let them have

2317
01:46:26,200 --> 01:46:27,600
Speaker 4: some of the run and we know we're going to

2318
01:46:27,680 --> 01:46:29,280
Speaker 4: challenge the pass. We know we're going to get after

2319
01:46:29,320 --> 01:46:32,439
Speaker 4: the passer run all four downs, all three downs. They're

2320
01:46:32,479 --> 01:46:34,439
Speaker 4: going to make some plays, they're going to gash us sometimes,

2321
01:46:34,479 --> 01:46:35,760
Speaker 4: but at the same time, we think we're going to

2322
01:46:35,800 --> 01:46:38,719
Speaker 4: be aggressive enough in the play to offset those plays.

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01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:40,120
Speaker 4: I just I don't know how it's all going to

2324
01:46:40,280 --> 01:46:42,000
Speaker 4: come out in the wash. But it's just really interesting

2325
01:46:42,080 --> 01:46:43,080
Speaker 4: shift in philosophy.

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Speaker 5: And you guys know how I feel about the running

2327
01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:47,960
Speaker 5: game in general, if you're a really good running team,

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01:46:48,000 --> 01:46:50,599
Speaker 5: that generally means your offense doesn't score a lot, right, right,

2329
01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:54,040
Speaker 5: And I know there are exceptions, Okay, I understand. You know,

2330
01:46:54,280 --> 01:46:56,479
Speaker 5: Baltimore runs the ball really well and they score a

2331
01:46:56,560 --> 01:46:59,920
Speaker 5: ton of points. I get it. But in general, turn,

2332
01:47:01,640 --> 01:47:04,280
Speaker 5: if you want to run Ashton genty you know, twenty

2333
01:47:04,360 --> 01:47:07,080
Speaker 5: five plus times, you're probably gonna put the game around

2334
01:47:07,280 --> 01:47:11,120
Speaker 5: you know, somewhere between fifteen and twenty five. Can you

2335
01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:14,040
Speaker 5: win a game twenty four to twenty? Sure? Why not?

2336
01:47:16,040 --> 01:47:16,200
Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 6: I think it also, just like to your point about

2338
01:47:18,280 --> 01:47:20,280
Speaker 6: running the ball, if you don't have a running quarterback,

2339
01:47:20,640 --> 01:47:23,000
Speaker 6: if you're a traditional run team, like we're just going

2340
01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:25,160
Speaker 6: to go under center, the quarterback is going to turn

2341
01:47:25,200 --> 01:47:27,479
Speaker 6: the ball over to the running back. Like those teams

2342
01:47:27,600 --> 01:47:31,360
Speaker 6: typically the Paul's pointer are lower scoring. Baltimore does it

2343
01:47:31,479 --> 01:47:35,880
Speaker 6: because Lamar runs, So like that's a different thing. Buffalo Buffalo,

2344
01:47:36,040 --> 01:47:38,640
Speaker 6: same thing with Josh Allen. So you know those are

2345
01:47:38,800 --> 01:47:41,400
Speaker 6: I don't think Gino Smith is a true threat. Not

2346
01:47:41,479 --> 01:47:44,120
Speaker 6: that he's immobile, but I don't think that he's that.

2347
01:47:44,479 --> 01:47:47,320
Speaker 4: He's everybody's covered. I'm gonna run not right, Yeah.

2348
01:47:47,200 --> 01:47:50,800
Speaker 5: He's he runs, you know as the last resort not

2349
01:47:51,360 --> 01:47:52,240
Speaker 5: Undesigned runs.

2350
01:47:52,360 --> 01:47:56,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, Eric in Rochester, New York, like every other member

2351
01:47:56,200 --> 01:47:58,320
Speaker 3: of Patriot's Nation, can't wait for the full slate of

2352
01:47:58,360 --> 01:48:00,600
Speaker 3: games this Sunday. With that said, wanted to play a

2353
01:48:00,680 --> 01:48:03,280
Speaker 3: small game, if you will. I'd love for each of

2354
01:48:03,360 --> 01:48:05,519
Speaker 3: you to predict the two biggest stories coming out of

2355
01:48:05,600 --> 01:48:09,680
Speaker 3: this Sunday. One Patriots related, one non Patriots related. That's

2356
01:48:09,720 --> 01:48:12,400
Speaker 3: something you have to kind of think, Oh, man, off

2357
01:48:12,439 --> 01:48:12,840
Speaker 3: the top.

2358
01:48:12,720 --> 01:48:14,160
Speaker 4: Of your head, what do you what do you what

2359
01:48:14,200 --> 01:48:15,679
Speaker 4: do you want the what do you want the result

2360
01:48:15,760 --> 01:48:15,920
Speaker 4: to be?

2361
01:48:16,360 --> 01:48:18,840
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean, what's the biggest story? Drake may is.

2362
01:48:18,880 --> 01:48:23,120
Speaker 5: Poised for a monster sophomore season with that'd be a

2363
01:48:23,160 --> 01:48:25,760
Speaker 5: great development if that's what we're talking about. Yeah, come

2364
01:48:25,960 --> 01:48:27,760
Speaker 5: come four oh five, when the three of us are

2365
01:48:27,800 --> 01:48:30,200
Speaker 5: doing the post game show, that'd be a great development.

2366
01:48:30,240 --> 01:48:32,320
Speaker 4: They were the past rush was excellent. They were all

2367
01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:35,320
Speaker 4: over Gino Smith all game one. You couldn't get anything going.

2368
01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:36,000
Speaker 5: You know.

2369
01:48:36,600 --> 01:48:38,439
Speaker 4: That to me sounds realistic.

2370
01:48:38,479 --> 01:48:40,000
Speaker 3: But Baltimore.

2371
01:48:41,320 --> 01:48:43,439
Speaker 5: Has established it, you know, for the league wide one

2372
01:48:43,560 --> 01:48:47,280
Speaker 5: Baltimore thing plays at Buffalo right, Yep. Baltimore established itself

2373
01:48:47,280 --> 01:48:49,280
Speaker 5: as the front runner for the Super Bowl with an

2374
01:48:49,320 --> 01:48:53,240
Speaker 5: impressive Week one win. Yeah, because I think Baltimore stacked.

2375
01:48:53,400 --> 01:48:57,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, that seems doable. How much of this game with

2376
01:48:57,960 --> 01:48:58,640
Speaker 3: the Patriots?

2377
01:48:58,840 --> 01:48:58,880
Speaker 1: What?

2378
01:48:59,320 --> 01:49:02,320
Speaker 3: Let me put it this way, because we were talking

2379
01:49:02,360 --> 01:49:06,880
Speaker 3: about the Raiders coaches, We didn't talk about the Raiders owners.

2380
01:49:08,760 --> 01:49:11,479
Speaker 3: Fill in the blank. We'll know that Tom Brady had

2381
01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:13,400
Speaker 3: something to do with this game plan.

2382
01:49:13,640 --> 01:49:22,560
Speaker 5: If blank, Oh, you know Smith the rise with a

2383
01:49:22,600 --> 01:49:23,560
Speaker 5: funny outfit on that.

2384
01:49:25,080 --> 01:49:25,439
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2385
01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:27,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's hard to say because like it's not I mean,

2386
01:49:27,760 --> 01:49:31,320
Speaker 6: I guess maybe he could dissect Josh's like Josh's offense

2387
01:49:31,479 --> 01:49:36,200
Speaker 6: for the Raiders defensive coaching staff and like reverse engineer things,

2388
01:49:36,760 --> 01:49:38,760
Speaker 6: but that even feels like a stretch, Like if it

2389
01:49:38,920 --> 01:49:41,479
Speaker 6: was built, I think that would be different. But like,

2390
01:49:41,720 --> 01:49:44,639
Speaker 6: I don't know how much he knows what Rabel's really

2391
01:49:45,520 --> 01:49:46,360
Speaker 6: thinking and doing.

2392
01:49:46,920 --> 01:49:47,600
Speaker 3: Uh you know.

2393
01:49:47,640 --> 01:49:49,120
Speaker 4: It was one of my favorite lines from Forest and

2394
01:49:49,160 --> 01:49:51,240
Speaker 4: Fox Bro was when Rabel was with Brady on the

2395
01:49:51,320 --> 01:49:53,639
Speaker 4: sidelines and Brady was like, I went a little funny

2396
01:49:53,720 --> 01:49:56,120
Speaker 4: with this one, and Rabel like, listen, I'm sure you

2397
01:49:56,240 --> 01:50:00,519
Speaker 4: did that cracked me up so good. That's how funny.

2398
01:50:00,520 --> 01:50:01,760
Speaker 4: I guess you had to be there. But to me,

2399
01:50:01,880 --> 01:50:02,640
Speaker 4: let's go watch it.

2400
01:50:02,800 --> 01:50:04,880
Speaker 3: Those conversations was awkward.

2401
01:50:05,320 --> 01:50:07,519
Speaker 4: They're well, I just it was funnyhen we were watching

2402
01:50:07,520 --> 01:50:09,720
Speaker 4: it because we're like, jeez. I was like, Tom's got

2403
01:50:09,800 --> 01:50:14,080
Speaker 4: some jokes tonight, Like you know, after that inspiration that

2404
01:50:14,240 --> 01:50:15,120
Speaker 4: you think it came out with.

2405
01:50:17,160 --> 01:50:17,760
Speaker 3: You don't do that?

2406
01:50:17,960 --> 01:50:20,560
Speaker 5: It's what I would say, is I know it?

2407
01:50:21,520 --> 01:50:25,160
Speaker 10: But then the roast style speech was all right.

2408
01:50:25,240 --> 01:50:27,560
Speaker 3: Let me put my other question a different way. Do

2409
01:50:27,600 --> 01:50:31,759
Speaker 3: you think Brady is talking to any of the coaches

2410
01:50:31,800 --> 01:50:34,599
Speaker 3: about the game or is he too busy with Fox

2411
01:50:34,720 --> 01:50:38,720
Speaker 3: and he's not even I mean, like, what's he going

2412
01:50:38,760 --> 01:50:39,000
Speaker 3: to tell?

2413
01:50:39,040 --> 01:50:40,600
Speaker 4: Like how much does he know that they don't know?

2414
01:50:40,800 --> 01:50:43,760
Speaker 5: I think he could help with the Josh stuff. Like

2415
01:50:43,800 --> 01:50:46,679
Speaker 5: you Evint said, I just don't know how much he's

2416
01:50:46,720 --> 01:50:48,640
Speaker 5: invested in I'm like, I know it sounds silly, but

2417
01:50:48,800 --> 01:50:49,960
Speaker 5: he's a minority owner.

2418
01:50:50,439 --> 01:50:54,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's a minority owner who's the greatest quarterback,

2419
01:50:54,160 --> 01:50:55,080
Speaker 3: who really does.

2420
01:50:55,000 --> 01:50:57,840
Speaker 5: Fox, that's really what his job is. So I don't

2421
01:50:58,080 --> 01:51:00,679
Speaker 5: really know how much invested he is in the Raiders

2422
01:51:00,760 --> 01:51:03,559
Speaker 5: right now. I don't know the answer. If he's heavily

2423
01:51:03,640 --> 01:51:05,120
Speaker 5: invested in the Raiders, I could see him doing what

2424
01:51:05,200 --> 01:51:07,840
Speaker 5: Evan said. Listen, I've went around that at that offense

2425
01:51:07,880 --> 01:51:09,880
Speaker 5: a long time. You do these three things and you

2426
01:51:09,960 --> 01:51:13,439
Speaker 5: can really neutralize it, right. I could see him doing that. Yeah,

2427
01:51:13,760 --> 01:51:15,280
Speaker 5: I just don't know how much he's involved.

2428
01:51:15,600 --> 01:51:18,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just don't know if that that really exists.

2429
01:51:19,400 --> 01:51:22,000
Speaker 3: Eric also has a question regarding the Patriots fan clubs.

2430
01:51:22,040 --> 01:51:24,519
Speaker 3: What happens to a club if the person running it

2431
01:51:24,640 --> 01:51:27,680
Speaker 3: goes dark. I live in Rochester, New York, and I

2432
01:51:27,840 --> 01:51:29,400
Speaker 3: was trying for a few weeks to get a hold

2433
01:51:29,439 --> 01:51:31,760
Speaker 3: of the person who runs the fan club here, only

2434
01:51:31,840 --> 01:51:33,880
Speaker 3: to find out that they've stopped. Can someone else take

2435
01:51:33,960 --> 01:51:37,120
Speaker 3: over the club or can there be multiple per city?

2436
01:51:37,640 --> 01:51:41,000
Speaker 3: I know I've heard other Patriots fans from Rochester right in,

2437
01:51:41,560 --> 01:51:43,439
Speaker 3: so I know we're here. I just want to enjoy

2438
01:51:43,520 --> 01:51:46,280
Speaker 3: the games with other like minded fans in Western New York.

2439
01:51:46,560 --> 01:51:47,920
Speaker 3: I mean, you can take it, or you can just

2440
01:51:47,960 --> 01:51:51,599
Speaker 3: start your own in Rochester. But we need to look

2441
01:51:51,680 --> 01:51:54,280
Speaker 3: into that because if no one's running that club, we

2442
01:51:54,360 --> 01:51:57,400
Speaker 3: need to get it out of the registry on pages

2443
01:51:57,439 --> 01:51:59,720
Speaker 3: dot com. And if you want to start a new

2444
01:51:59,760 --> 01:52:01,080
Speaker 3: one Rochester, New York.

2445
01:52:01,080 --> 01:52:03,120
Speaker 5: Just or if he wants to run that one, yeah,

2446
01:52:03,160 --> 01:52:07,120
Speaker 5: he wants to take over this existing one. Ye, but

2447
01:52:07,439 --> 01:52:08,000
Speaker 5: is that allowed?

2448
01:52:08,360 --> 01:52:10,240
Speaker 3: I mean there's members there. I mean I don't know

2449
01:52:10,280 --> 01:52:13,479
Speaker 3: if there's how the club was run in the past,

2450
01:52:13,600 --> 01:52:15,479
Speaker 3: like there's elections.

2451
01:52:16,400 --> 01:52:19,960
Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't know every club runs it's like a timeshare.

2452
01:52:20,120 --> 01:52:29,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, damn politics always Yeah, Andre says Paul's the best. Secondly,

2453
01:52:29,200 --> 01:52:31,320
Speaker 3: how many points do you think the team will average

2454
01:52:31,360 --> 01:52:34,880
Speaker 3: for the season over under twenty five passes and over

2455
01:52:35,000 --> 01:52:39,040
Speaker 3: under twenty five touchdown passes for Drake may over over that?

2456
01:52:39,800 --> 01:52:41,839
Speaker 3: And how many points per get play average?

2457
01:52:42,439 --> 01:52:45,599
Speaker 5: How many points per game five and a half.

2458
01:52:47,439 --> 01:52:47,879
Speaker 3: Nineteen?

2459
01:52:48,680 --> 01:52:50,880
Speaker 5: I don't know who I can tell you. Twenty four

2460
01:52:51,000 --> 01:52:52,639
Speaker 5: point three points per game.

2461
01:52:54,280 --> 01:52:56,639
Speaker 3: Sounds right, very precise.

2462
01:52:57,560 --> 01:52:58,519
Speaker 5: I was a friend answer.

2463
01:53:00,120 --> 01:53:03,280
Speaker 4: I think last year they averaged Oh that's that.

2464
01:53:03,320 --> 01:53:03,840
Speaker 3: Can't be right.

2465
01:53:04,120 --> 01:53:06,040
Speaker 4: Honestly, it was like sixteen.

2466
01:53:06,200 --> 01:53:07,120
Speaker 10: I was gonna say six.

2467
01:53:07,280 --> 01:53:11,400
Speaker 5: Sixteen, So I'm averaging eight more points per game.

2468
01:53:11,320 --> 01:53:14,040
Speaker 4: Twenty twenty fourteen points ambitious.

2469
01:53:14,640 --> 01:53:17,320
Speaker 3: So twenty twenty four they had how much sixteen points

2470
01:53:17,320 --> 01:53:18,839
Speaker 3: per game? That's terrible.

2471
01:53:19,120 --> 01:53:21,400
Speaker 10: We know, it's just horrible.

2472
01:53:21,600 --> 01:53:22,840
Speaker 5: Oh and I know they should have won eight or

2473
01:53:22,920 --> 01:53:23,840
Speaker 5: nine games, right, Yeah?

2474
01:53:24,000 --> 01:53:25,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, they were done in twenty twenty one. They were

2475
01:53:25,720 --> 01:53:27,920
Speaker 4: twenty seven point two. That's that's pretty good.

2476
01:53:28,000 --> 01:53:29,439
Speaker 10: Yeah, twenty twenty one is a good offense.

2477
01:53:29,640 --> 01:53:34,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, some outliars, Yeah, of course, some couple some or

2478
01:53:34,080 --> 01:53:38,639
Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty and three games right offense Cleveland

2479
01:53:38,720 --> 01:53:39,680
Speaker 5: Jacks like that.

2480
01:53:39,800 --> 01:53:41,360
Speaker 4: I mean, I can see how it's kind of skewed.

2481
01:53:42,120 --> 01:53:45,599
Speaker 3: David, the Philippines, please stop drinking so much diet soda,

2482
01:53:45,920 --> 01:53:48,200
Speaker 3: he says. I used to do that until I had

2483
01:53:48,240 --> 01:53:51,640
Speaker 3: a stroke, never touched the stuff. Since the chemicals they

2484
01:53:51,680 --> 01:53:54,000
Speaker 3: put in diet soda are worse than sugar for your health.

2485
01:53:54,280 --> 01:53:55,920
Speaker 3: For all of us who want to continue to hear

2486
01:53:55,960 --> 01:53:58,439
Speaker 3: your insights for many years to come, please switch to

2487
01:53:58,560 --> 01:54:01,240
Speaker 3: something better for you. I personally go with water. Now

2488
01:54:01,439 --> 01:54:03,719
Speaker 3: that's no fun, all.

2489
01:54:03,720 --> 01:54:05,840
Speaker 5: Right, appreciate it.

2490
01:54:05,960 --> 01:54:12,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of concern for Gonzales. We share that concern,

2491
01:54:13,400 --> 01:54:14,280
Speaker 3: right do we?

2492
01:54:14,880 --> 01:54:16,519
Speaker 5: Some of us have had concern for a while.

2493
01:54:16,800 --> 01:54:21,280
Speaker 3: Yep, Joel and San Antonio. I'll make this short since

2494
01:54:21,320 --> 01:54:23,000
Speaker 3: we have picks this week and we have to hurry.

2495
01:54:23,840 --> 01:54:26,559
Speaker 3: Question for Paul, are you familiar with a broadcaster named

2496
01:54:26,640 --> 01:54:31,080
Speaker 3: Dan Weiss. He's a fellow Northeastern University alum, been working

2497
01:54:31,160 --> 01:54:33,280
Speaker 3: for the Spurs for a while was just named radio

2498
01:54:33,360 --> 01:54:36,600
Speaker 3: play by play to succeed the great Bill Shooning, who

2499
01:54:36,720 --> 01:54:38,080
Speaker 3: retired after the season ended.

2500
01:54:39,080 --> 01:54:42,480
Speaker 5: Dan Weiss, you know Dan Weiss. I do not know

2501
01:54:42,600 --> 01:54:43,000
Speaker 5: that name.

2502
01:54:43,200 --> 01:54:43,240
Speaker 12: No.

2503
01:54:43,880 --> 01:54:46,920
Speaker 3: No, he got a job without you having a say

2504
01:54:46,960 --> 01:54:49,960
Speaker 3: in it. You know, from Northeastern.

2505
01:54:50,040 --> 01:54:51,840
Speaker 5: There's a lot of people that got jobs without me

2506
01:54:51,920 --> 01:54:54,040
Speaker 5: hearing a saying that. But I don't. I'm not one

2507
01:54:54,120 --> 01:54:57,160
Speaker 5: of them. I stay here with you, okay.

2508
01:54:57,360 --> 01:55:01,680
Speaker 3: Loyalty Tim and Boston rights dow. He says, Patriots twenty one,

2509
01:55:01,800 --> 01:55:05,280
Speaker 3: Raiders seventeen. We'll get into our picks on Thursday, so

2510
01:55:05,600 --> 01:55:08,400
Speaker 3: that's okay. They can do it. He says, I got

2511
01:55:08,480 --> 01:55:13,000
Speaker 3: married on Saturday, relation I'm now on my honeymoon, relaxing

2512
01:55:13,080 --> 01:55:14,720
Speaker 3: with my wife on the Cape.

2513
01:55:14,600 --> 01:55:17,720
Speaker 5: Nice and you're sending emails into father Fred.

2514
01:55:17,800 --> 01:55:21,080
Speaker 3: You were number my number one trusted source for restaurant recommendations,

2515
01:55:21,160 --> 01:55:24,240
Speaker 3: especially in Cape Where can we find the best lobster

2516
01:55:24,360 --> 01:55:28,480
Speaker 3: roll near Hyanna's? Cy Do you spot Fred near Hyennas

2517
01:55:31,400 --> 01:55:34,320
Speaker 3: Chowder would be good for Parker's, But if you want

2518
01:55:35,080 --> 01:55:37,480
Speaker 3: the best lobster roll, it's a little bit of a

2519
01:55:37,560 --> 01:55:40,320
Speaker 3: hike from Hyanna's. But go down to Falmathery and go

2520
01:55:40,400 --> 01:55:43,480
Speaker 3: to the Raw Bar. They've got the best. Of course,

2521
01:55:44,360 --> 01:55:45,120
Speaker 3: they've got the best.

2522
01:55:45,560 --> 01:55:47,960
Speaker 4: What'swear across from Captain Parker's right there on twenty eight.

2523
01:55:48,440 --> 01:55:52,200
Speaker 3: The Big Boat. Yeah yeah, this guy from g L

2524
01:55:52,320 --> 01:55:55,879
Speaker 3: Barber his brother in law owns that restaurant.

2525
01:55:55,960 --> 01:55:56,879
Speaker 10: He owns the restaurant.

2526
01:55:57,040 --> 01:55:59,600
Speaker 3: Yeah. Interesting, it's either his brother or brother in law

2527
01:56:00,400 --> 01:56:05,720
Speaker 3: owns the rest it's the river side. They're both famous, right, Yeah,

2528
01:56:05,960 --> 01:56:07,720
Speaker 3: looks like a big boat restaurant.

2529
01:56:07,760 --> 01:56:10,360
Speaker 4: There's also the Pirates ship museums there which I would

2530
01:56:10,400 --> 01:56:12,080
Speaker 4: like to hit. Just recently found out about that.

2531
01:56:12,200 --> 01:56:13,880
Speaker 3: But lobster roll, I mean there's a lot of good

2532
01:56:13,960 --> 01:56:16,040
Speaker 3: lobster rolls on the cape, don't get me wrong.

2533
01:56:16,920 --> 01:56:20,040
Speaker 4: Stuet Harbor, that's uh, that's a famous one great location.

2534
01:56:20,200 --> 01:56:21,040
Speaker 3: Scargo Cafe.

2535
01:56:21,640 --> 01:56:23,760
Speaker 4: I went to Scargo Cafe, yeah on Friday.

2536
01:56:23,840 --> 01:56:28,000
Speaker 3: But this placed the Raw Bar in. It's in the

2537
01:56:28,120 --> 01:56:31,840
Speaker 3: foul Myth area. It's a little town within I forget

2538
01:56:31,880 --> 01:56:35,160
Speaker 3: the name. It begins with a P. I think Papaesse. Yeah,

2539
01:56:35,320 --> 01:56:37,600
Speaker 3: I think it's Papa Esse it but look up the

2540
01:56:37,720 --> 01:56:41,560
Speaker 3: Raw Bar if you want the lobster role, and they

2541
01:56:41,600 --> 01:56:43,360
Speaker 3: got steamers. You can't go wrong.

2542
01:56:44,280 --> 01:56:45,200
Speaker 5: They got the Steamers.

2543
01:56:45,440 --> 01:56:46,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't go wrong.

2544
01:56:47,000 --> 01:56:50,080
Speaker 5: That's like like Joe Murray from the Sports Hub, you know,

2545
01:56:50,240 --> 01:56:53,000
Speaker 5: just ask him like, yeah, I'm way to go on

2546
01:56:53,080 --> 01:56:53,600
Speaker 5: the Cape now.

2547
01:56:54,760 --> 01:56:57,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, he knows, he knows north Shore, south Shore, he

2548
01:56:57,760 --> 01:56:58,360
Speaker 3: knows everything.

2549
01:56:58,400 --> 01:57:01,440
Speaker 5: He knows literally, any place you could mass, any place

2550
01:57:01,520 --> 01:57:03,240
Speaker 5: you could bring up, he'll give you at least two.

2551
01:57:03,560 --> 01:57:10,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's amazing. All right, quickly there, He's got a

2552
01:57:10,480 --> 01:57:12,840
Speaker 3: lot of quickly, a lot of trivia questions for Paul.

2553
01:57:12,840 --> 01:57:13,760
Speaker 3: I wanted to do it real.

2554
01:57:13,680 --> 01:57:15,920
Speaker 5: Quick, real quick, and you got Sam On from Easton

2555
01:57:15,960 --> 01:57:16,200
Speaker 5: on them.

2556
01:57:16,440 --> 01:57:18,040
Speaker 3: All right, we'll go to we'll go to the phones.

2557
01:57:18,240 --> 01:57:19,000
Speaker 3: We'll go to the phone.

2558
01:57:19,040 --> 01:57:20,560
Speaker 5: I want that trivia question too.

2559
01:57:20,440 --> 01:57:23,880
Speaker 3: Though, Sam's and Easton what's up? Sam?

2560
01:57:25,360 --> 01:57:26,320
Speaker 11: Hey guys, how's it going?

2561
01:57:26,720 --> 01:57:26,920
Speaker 4: Sam?

2562
01:57:29,040 --> 01:57:31,200
Speaker 11: I'm just curious what you guys think the stat line

2563
01:57:31,200 --> 01:57:35,040
Speaker 11: will be for the Rookie contributors on Sunday. I'm a

2564
01:57:35,160 --> 01:57:37,200
Speaker 11: season ticket holder and I'll be there in person, so

2565
01:57:37,480 --> 01:57:38,760
Speaker 11: looking forward to seeing those guys.

2566
01:57:39,000 --> 01:57:42,040
Speaker 3: Sounds like stat lines for the Rookie contributors.

2567
01:57:42,160 --> 01:57:46,040
Speaker 5: First we have to pencil in Henderson who contributor?

2568
01:57:46,440 --> 01:57:50,160
Speaker 11: Yeah, Henderson Williams, And I guess you could throw Chism

2569
01:57:50,160 --> 01:57:51,920
Speaker 11: in there. If you think he's gonna play, I think.

2570
01:57:51,800 --> 01:57:52,400
Speaker 5: You'll get nothing.

2571
01:57:53,400 --> 01:57:53,960
Speaker 4: I won't play.

2572
01:57:54,320 --> 01:57:54,440
Speaker 13: Uh.

2573
01:57:55,160 --> 01:57:58,800
Speaker 4: I hard to see Williams doing anything much. Maybe one

2574
01:57:58,920 --> 01:58:01,480
Speaker 4: or two catches if you even get ten. I think

2575
01:58:01,680 --> 01:58:05,320
Speaker 4: Woodson's gonna play a lot. I think Campbell and and

2576
01:58:05,480 --> 01:58:06,600
Speaker 4: Wilson are going to play a lot.

2577
01:58:06,840 --> 01:58:08,839
Speaker 5: I just thought we were talking about the school guys Henderson.

2578
01:58:09,160 --> 01:58:11,280
Speaker 5: What did that guy say earlier, like, you know, ten

2579
01:58:11,320 --> 01:58:15,200
Speaker 5: to fifteen touches, seven carries, seven targets. I could see

2580
01:58:15,240 --> 01:58:17,000
Speaker 5: something like that in one game.

2581
01:58:17,200 --> 01:58:20,240
Speaker 4: True. Yeah, Okay, what about Balis and the long snapper?

2582
01:58:20,320 --> 01:58:21,160
Speaker 1: He'll have you.

2583
01:58:23,320 --> 01:58:26,480
Speaker 5: I was thinking we were doing over I'm not sure

2584
01:58:26,520 --> 01:58:27,120
Speaker 5: he'll be active.

2585
01:58:27,360 --> 01:58:27,640
Speaker 3: Okay.

2586
01:58:28,240 --> 01:58:30,800
Speaker 5: Sounded like I don't know to find out more about

2587
01:58:30,840 --> 01:58:34,920
Speaker 5: the overall health of the roster, but there's gonna be

2588
01:58:34,960 --> 01:58:39,560
Speaker 5: some guys that are inactive. And you go in five

2589
01:58:39,920 --> 01:58:42,400
Speaker 5: deep at wide receiver, that might be a spot where

2590
01:58:42,480 --> 01:58:43,480
Speaker 5: you might get in inactive.

2591
01:58:43,680 --> 01:58:44,400
Speaker 10: Yeah, I agreed.

2592
01:58:44,640 --> 01:58:47,920
Speaker 5: Yepism seems like he's still heard. I mean, I know

2593
01:58:48,000 --> 01:58:49,200
Speaker 5: he's been he's been out there right.

2594
01:58:49,200 --> 01:58:51,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he's scout teaming it up. I think he's

2595
01:58:51,760 --> 01:58:54,160
Speaker 4: he's he's one of her in actives probably probably.

2596
01:58:54,440 --> 01:58:56,400
Speaker 10: He doesn't have a role really on special teams, so

2597
01:58:56,400 --> 01:58:57,000
Speaker 10: other than as.

2598
01:58:56,880 --> 01:58:58,320
Speaker 5: A back, he's really just a returner.

2599
01:58:58,440 --> 01:59:03,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Well we'll be back tomorrow Wednesday, and

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Speaker 3: it'll be the first day that you have a in

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01:59:07,040 --> 01:59:11,080
Speaker 3: season practice that Evan and Deuce will be attending. Not

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Speaker 3: to say that we're going to glean a lot from that,

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01:59:13,520 --> 01:59:15,200
Speaker 3: but at least we might be able to get some

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Speaker 3: attendance going and we'll see who's out there for that.

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Speaker 3: So that'll happen tomorrow. Mike Rabel will have a life

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Speaker 3: press conference on Patriots dot com tomorrow. When is Catch

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Speaker 3: twenty two this week?

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Speaker 10: Tomorrow ten to noon?

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Speaker 3: So right before tomorrow at ten, is that where you

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01:59:31,840 --> 01:59:34,240
Speaker 3: think you're going to be this season? Beat? A lot

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Speaker 3: of people are, you know, they're.

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Speaker 5: All over the place, so the schedule's been all over

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Speaker 5: the place. In their defense, thank you, they have to

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Speaker 5: adjust to the actual team.

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Speaker 3: So, like everybody else, you think you're going to try

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Speaker 3: for Wednesdays at ten.

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Speaker 10: That's the goals ten to twelve, you know, eleven fifty

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Speaker 10: five probably?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So you'll be on before our show, yes, and

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Speaker 3: then immediately you're going to go into our show for

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Speaker 3: a little bit, but I have a lot of FaceTime

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Speaker 3: for Evan. But then I have to go to have

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Speaker 3: to lock around and go to practice. So all right,

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Speaker 3: So we're gonna end the show the way we began

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Speaker 3: it with that great new song by Jill. We will

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Speaker 3: see you tomorrow. Room for a loop.

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Speaker 7: Hey, it's a Brando Hopie you season. Don't looking up

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Speaker 7: but pause, pretty slim, we haven't tied the Knockduce gott

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Speaker 7: a dog Bred's trying to find some one to mois

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Speaker 7: nod and Alex is just reading the stars.

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Speaker 2: Alex is just reading the stars.

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Speaker 8: We've got a se house for pretty and close game

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Speaker 8: shows that's in the booth making everything.

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Speaker 2: We're all pretty stoked a Bras, Rabel and Meg and

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Speaker 2: everybody still Hayton no Christian.

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Speaker 9: Hey, it's a brand Hopie you season the past, give

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Speaker 9: us something to feelie.

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Speaker 2: Then we're ready for a great showIn.

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Speaker 7: It's been too long, And I forget a T shirt.

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Speaker 2: For writing this song.

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Speaker 10: Hey, this is Evan. Thanks for tuning in to the show.

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Speaker 19: If you really want to help us, make sure they

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02:01:12,920 --> 02:01:16,320
Speaker 19: like us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get

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02:01:16,400 --> 02:01:18,720
Speaker 19: your podcasts. Also make sure to follow on the New

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02:01:18,720 --> 02:01:21,680
Speaker 19: England Patriots YouTube channel. See this show and everything else

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Speaker 19: we do here at the Patriots.

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Speaker 10: Thanks a lot