1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Get Up, Get Up, Get Up? 2 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 2: What's up? Guys? Welcome back to Mets Up, Episode number 3 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 2: one seventeen, the official podcast of the New York Mets. 4 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: We're excited to talk about the Philadelphia Phillies series. Oh oh, 5 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 2: that is just Philadelphia Phillies series. You gotta gotta get 6 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 2: the words right here. It's been a long week, a 7 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 2: lot of Mets games going on this series though, we 8 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 2: have a big homestand this one though, was really good 9 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: for the Mets as we took two of three from 10 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 2: those Philadelphia Phillies. As I'm really over pronunciating now. It 11 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 2: was a really nice series, really straightforward, a lot of 12 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 2: things to talk about. Good series for the Mets overall, 13 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: though we gained a game on them after they thought 14 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: they were gonna sweep the series after Game one, but 15 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 2: we'll talk about that here before we do. Make sure 16 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 2: you check us out on all our social media at 17 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 2: Mets Up on Twitter, TikTok, Instagram. If you're looking for 18 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: the YouTube video, go to the New York Mets YouTube channel. 19 00:00:57,880 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: You'll be able to find it there. And if you're 20 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: listening to a Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, Odyssey, wherever 21 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 2: you find your podcast. You'll be able to listen to us. 22 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 2: Drop us a rating, drop us a review, download it, subscribe, 23 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 2: share whatever you gotta do. We appreciate it. And James, 24 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 2: I mean, I've seen you like all weekend, but literally, 25 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 2: how are you feeling today? I'm feeling good. 26 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 3: It's just funny to have this episode and try to 27 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 3: find things to talk about when the Phillies barely scored 28 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 3: in three days. 29 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 2: What was it twenty or not twenty four? Eighteen seventeen 30 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: straight innings after Game one. 31 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 3: Eighteen innings without scoring a run because they were shout 32 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 3: that out back to back days on Saturday, the nd 33 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 3: Sunday and then score and earned run since the first 34 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 3: inning on Friday. They didn't really do much with the bats, No, 35 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 3: not at all. This lineup is so unimpressive without Harper 36 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 3: or Schwarber. 37 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I feel like, like with Harper, we were 38 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 2: talking about it earlier because you've made some comments about 39 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 2: how you thought the Phillies would be fine without Harper, 40 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 2: and they've been more than it was true. Yeah, I 41 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 2: think I sent you the record before without Harper it 42 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 2: was like twenty nine to fifteen. I believe. 43 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 3: Yes, Now I've just had twenty nine to sixteen. 44 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 2: Yes, but that's really good. But that being said, it 45 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 2: feels like almost Schwarber now, like now that really changed 46 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: the way that this offense feels because they didn't They 47 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 2: didn't hit at all. 48 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 3: It's kind of like, here's your two elite power bats. 49 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 3: Are Harper is not bad defense, but he couldn't play defense. 50 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 3: Schwarberg is not good at defense. He does play defense. 51 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 3: You lose one of them and like, all right, we 52 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 3: still have something to keep this lineup going. But now 53 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 3: you lose both of them and the mid line, especially 54 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 3: when Castillos is not hitting for power. Alec Baum no 55 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 3: longer hits for power. J t roal Muto hits for power, 56 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 3: but he's as much as a catch hits. He's not 57 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 3: like these guys. 58 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:18,679 Speaker 2: You don't want him being your four hitter Like J. 59 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 2: T rol Muto hitting four doesn't scare or put any 60 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 2: fear into anyone's hearts. 61 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 3: His lineup very much lacked punch, especially when you're playing 62 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 3: in a ballpark like City Field. You're going against Max Scherzer, 63 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 3: Jacob de Gram, Chris Bass and the Mets bullpen. They 64 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 3: just really couldn't seem to get enough together to really 65 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 3: make anything happen. 66 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 2: And also props to the Mets pitching. The Mets pitching 67 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: was really really good all series. I mean you start 68 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 2: off with the Scherzer game two, de Groam game three. 69 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: Bass Basst didn't go as longer as deep into games 70 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 2: as the other guys, but he still battled and still 71 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 2: was able to keep the Phillies scoreless. That's the kind 72 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 2: of stuff that really separates the Mets between this Phillies 73 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 2: roster is that if something maybe isn't going one hundred 74 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 2: percent for the Phillies, and we talked about this earlier 75 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 2: in the year too, that if they have any injury, 76 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 2: if they have any problem, this team looks completely different 77 00:02:58,720 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 2: because they just don't have that depth. 78 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 3: Lack of depth is happening to a lot of teams 79 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 3: in baseball. You're seeing us now, especially to get to 80 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 3: the middle of August, and people are really being tested. 81 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 3: This the dog days of the summer. Everyone loves to 82 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 3: talk about. But I think the biggest difference though is 83 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 3: the lineup between the Mets and the Phillies. Which is 84 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 3: hilarious thing to say, because this Mets lineup, we saw 85 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 3: it the series. If they didn't hit, you know, a 86 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 3: ton all series long, Friday and Saturday, it was a 87 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,839 Speaker 3: trying time to score runs. But even on Sunday Agains 88 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 3: Zach Wheeler, it was just like everyone's taking good that bats. 89 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 3: Like we've said all along, everyone the starting lineup got 90 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 3: a hit. Yep, like just pounding, pounding, pounding, over and 91 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 3: over and over again. Eventually the Phillies just like you 92 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 3: can't breathe anymore, like there's no break. 93 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 2: Mets or Pesky. We talked about how earlier in the 94 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 2: year two we felt that the Mets were going after 95 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: guys that put the ball in play you don't strike out, 96 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 2: And I do feel like this series, maybe against Nola 97 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: a little bit more so. No, it was good, but 98 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 2: in this series, the Mets were putting the ball and 99 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 2: play a lot and making the Phillies make plays, which 100 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 2: is always a good thing. 101 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 3: Well, the opposite that kind of worked against them on 102 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 3: Friday because they were putting the ball and play a 103 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 3: lot against Ranger Suarez and they couldn't really square it up. 104 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just on the ground. I felt like 105 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 2: a lot. 106 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 3: And the Phillies on Friday you got a tip of 107 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 3: the cap. I feel like they were really motivated to 108 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 3: play good defense after Keith like kind of hooked Bear 109 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 3: a little bit. 110 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 2: I think they might have been, yeah, kind of. And 111 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: it's funny though, because that ran out by the end 112 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 2: of the series. Oh for sure. They went right back 113 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: to being the old Phillies by game three. But game one, 114 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 2: let's start off there, because there was the Apple TV game, 115 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 2: which always has some interesting vibes, because, of course, I mean, 116 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 2: anytime we don't get to hear Gary keithan Ron, it 117 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: stinks because they are the best in the biz. Yeah, 118 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 2: and Apple TV at times has been a little hit 119 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 2: or miss. This game felt a little bit weird. 120 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 3: Mets fans in general wouldn't be as averse to the 121 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 3: Apple TV broadcast if our broadcasting crew wasn't the best 122 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 3: in the business for sure, Like if you were dealing 123 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 3: with mid for one hundred and sixty games and then 124 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 3: you had to take a break for two games here. 125 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 2: Like let's say you had the Phillies broadcast. 126 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 3: Yes, as an example, I don't think the Phillies guys 127 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 3: are that bad. 128 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 2: Let's say you had I think, relatively actually they're probably better, yeah, 129 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 2: because I mean, like you go to like Pittsburgh, Minnesota again, 130 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 2: Like I don't know, who either of those teams are 131 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 2: exactly like am. I feel like probably not being a 132 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 2: Temple Race announcer has to be like almost like a 133 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 2: punishment in and of itself unless you. 134 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 3: Really bought into like the Rays mantra and like it 135 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 3: was like young Sharp, like cool team. 136 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, cool team, but it's just not a really fan 137 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 2: base by any means. The Tampa Bay Rays the Race 138 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 2: don't do bad in social media. 139 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 3: But the crux of this is that Mets fans get 140 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 3: frustrated with the Apple TV broadcast. 141 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 2: Definitely, And I don't think that the Apple TV broadcast 142 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 2: was bad, Like I think we've had bad ones in 143 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 2: the past, Yeah, no doubt. But I think that the 144 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 2: crew is really like Cliff Floyd. I like Cliff Floyd 145 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 2: a lot. I think Floyd's a good voice. Steven Nelson's 146 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 2: really strong as well. You know, John's real friendly with Steven. 147 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 2: He's a good dude. So, I mean, like, I think 148 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 2: they did a relatively good job. But I think the 149 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 2: biggest issue, honestly was it was so quiet. I don't 150 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: know if they didn't bump the mics. I don't The 151 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 2: other thing I noticed too, I was talking about it 152 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 2: on Twitter as well, with KFC over at Barschool. We 153 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 2: both mentioned it that it felt like it was like 154 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 2: we're watching golf because like the you know, the fans 155 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 2: were raucous, you know, the stadium was bumped. Yeah, but 156 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 2: you didn't get that feel on the broadcast because for 157 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 2: some reason they weren't pumping in the right amount of 158 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 2: live game volume. I've said this before too about the 159 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 2: Apple broadcast. I'll say it again. 160 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 3: It's just really weird when people don't have chemistry to 161 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 3: put three announcers and it's tough booth together because Katie 162 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 3: Nolan as well, who's not Ken. Olan's a decent analyst, 163 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 3: but she's not really a baseball gal as much as 164 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 3: she is with other sports from what I understand the 165 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 3: content I take in of hers. So you put these 166 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 3: three people together who don't really have a prior relationship 167 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 3: and who aren't they have no rapport. Yeah, so it's hard, 168 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 3: and like it's hard when there's three people trying to 169 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 3: figure out who speaks and who's not and who jumps in. 170 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 3: When like we again, we're kind of blessed with Gary, 171 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 3: Keith and Ron because those are three guys who know 172 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 3: each other's lanes. They can feel when each other's stopping 173 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 3: and someone else just say something. But it's hard to 174 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 3: just say, hey, you three people go talk about baseball. Yeah, 175 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 3: not e three and a half hours. 176 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 2: Not everyone can be blessed like the Mets. The Mets 177 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 2: Up podcast has now got three people with John over, 178 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 2: you're helping us out with stats every once in a while. 179 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 2: I mean, we got good chemistry. It is important and 180 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 2: it's tough. It's really hard. But that being said, it's 181 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 2: because he's listening to the game on the radio. Yeah, 182 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,119 Speaker 2: of course you have you have Howie, You have Howie 183 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 2: and Wayne. You could listen to those guys, which also 184 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 2: shout to Wayne our friends and Howie too, because I mean, 185 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 2: we got a shout out on the radio broadcast, which 186 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 2: was cool. But we do have an interview coming with 187 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 2: Wayne tea guys very soon, so that'll be a nice 188 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 2: fun bonus episode. Get to talk to Wayne ren Dazzo 189 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: for about thirty minutes, and it was it was a 190 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 2: lot of fun. 191 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 3: It was fun. And now talk about the game a 192 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 3: little bit. Because the Phillies did get to Max Scherzer 193 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 3: before the Mets were able to really do. I believe 194 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 3: it was top of the first. 195 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Bryson Stott seemingly is the Max Scherzer. He 196 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 2: owns him, which is weird because I remember he had 197 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 2: that that rope earlier in the year in Philadelphia against Max, 198 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 2: and I was like, that was a shockingly good at bat. 199 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 2: I was like, very excited for Max Schuers to face 200 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 2: Bryson stought at the time put up a good at 201 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 2: bat and then he got on base four times in 202 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 2: that game. He's the only player I think in Max's 203 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 2: career to get on base four times against him in 204 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 2: a game. 205 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 3: Yes, and now for brys Stott's career against Max Scherzers, 206 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 3: only this year, he is six or seven. 207 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: With a hit by pitch. It's really good. It's ridiculous. 208 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 2: It's really good for a guy who I think is 209 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 2: a better player than his number show, but isn't by 210 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: any means like this stud. I mean, there are a 211 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 2: lot better players in the league. 212 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 3: He's someone who I think has like a stable skill 213 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 3: set who will progress. It will be like a useful 214 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 3: cog for the Phillies for a long time. 215 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 2: Better than Ded Gregorias, that's for sure, Gregorious and he's 216 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 2: a fine little player. 217 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 3: But it's just weird how he just is Max Scherzer 218 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 3: is kryptonite. Yeah, kryptonide correctly after used incorrectly earlier. 219 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was That's my thing. I don't like using 220 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 2: words the proper way. Sometimes they just go with the 221 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 2: meeting that I feel fits best. Yeah. 222 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 3: And then Phills got that Ron Stott, someone drove him 223 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 3: in and Markanda hit a sacrifice fly in the bomb 224 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 3: of the second NAST games at won one and it 225 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 3: was really again the broadcast kind of quiet Jets preseason 226 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 3: was going on the other side of it, like Friday night. 227 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 3: I'm sure everyone's got a lot to different. 228 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 2: Everyone thought Zack Wilson towards a cl. 229 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 3: For hours because people were just lying on Twitter saying 230 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 3: it towards ACL shout out a leasure, ducable because he 231 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 3: just told people on Twitter. Jack wasn't towards a clue. 232 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 2: Fun fact, I saw, I saw the injury, I said, meniscus, 233 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 2: So Jets fans, you can thank me pro football doctor here. Yeah, 234 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 2: orthopedic surgeon. 235 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 3: But by far the weirdest situation, the most entertaining situation 236 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 3: this game until it eventually went to extra innings. Happened 237 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 3: during that end of this Mets rally. We discussed in 238 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 3: the bomb in the second and heading into the top 239 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 3: of the third, the Mets Darren oh Canada sack Fly 240 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 3: rough h the double or something. Ruff was on third base, 241 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 3: Jeff McNeil was up one out. McNeil's a swinging bunt 242 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 3: up the first base line. The ree Hoskins chargers. Also, 243 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 3: ree Hoskins seems significantly more confident defense than he ever 244 00:08:58,160 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 3: was in his career right now. 245 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 2: That's just I think that's just ree Hoskins playing hot. 246 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 2: He's swinging the bat really well, so that might just 247 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 2: be like that might be a thing where he's like 248 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 2: it's going well, like I'm just out here playing baseball. 249 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: But I still think I think he's got some of 250 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 2: the worst hands in the league. 251 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 3: Also, I mean, maybe the fact that reeze Hoskins doesn't 252 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 3: have to try to play the outfield anymore. The Phillies 253 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 3: finally relieves him of that the hell escape, and maybe 254 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 3: he's much more relaxed with playing one position that he 255 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 3: can actually try to manage rather than one he cannot. 256 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 2: He had a chip on his shoulder too with the 257 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 2: Keith comments, because we know we know Keiths and groans 258 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 2: a lot about Reecee Hoskins defense. 259 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 3: Whichuse. He's a good hit there, but those hands out. 260 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 2: There as a guy who took a lot of pride 261 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 2: in defensive first base. 262 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 3: Yes, so Hoskins feels the Jeff dribbler and he charges it. 263 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 3: Jeff doing this new thing that Buckets taught. The guys 264 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 3: tried to like dead stop because the Mets had runners 265 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 3: on base, and you wanted to try and force reeze 266 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 3: Hoskins to think. 267 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 2: I wouldn't even say he tried to dead stop well. 268 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 3: But he was going too fast and he just ended 269 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 3: up sliding. And Hoskins was coming in at him to 270 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 3: tag him to keep to look back rough to third 271 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 3: and he steps on Jeff's thumb, his right thumb, and 272 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 3: you try to see Jeff grab it, and he closed 273 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 3: the dug out. You don't think anything of it. And 274 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 3: then after Jeff and the oiler was while the west 275 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 3: cobar who didn't come out, Whiskey or may pinch hit 276 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 3: for him. Yeah, and now I'm back to back plays. Jeff, 277 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 3: Jeff and Neil had to leave the game with a 278 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 3: lacerated but we didn't know that yet until we went 279 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 3: out to the field. But we looked like it looked 280 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 3: like the way Jack came off the field like he 281 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 3: was like squeezing his thumb like there was definitely blood. 282 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 3: It wasn't bad and ed will Square had just been 283 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 3: Yankee yet, Oh those are those are two of our infielder. 284 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 2: Those are two plays, not that many left. No, that's 285 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: I You think about the bench and you go, yeah, 286 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 2: Gourmey is the backup infielder because Darren Ruff is not 287 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 2: playing third base. I don't think no. 288 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 3: And now there there's one backup infield for two positions. 289 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we had to put in Mark Canna at 290 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 2: third base. And I can't even believe that this is 291 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 2: a real thing. I'm about to say to you guys. 292 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 2: But friend of the podcast, if you guys were listening 293 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 2: last year when we were interviewing, he was our Spanish 294 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 2: translator shot our boy Ernie. He had a he had 295 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 2: a what do you tell us about Mark Canna playing 296 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 2: third base? Mark? 297 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 3: He he was at the game the last time Mark Hanna, 298 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 3: I believe, played third base for one of the last 299 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 3: times he played third base, which was two thousand and 300 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 3: he's a little bit older than us. 301 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 4: It was the twenty sixteen. 302 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 3: It was twenty sixteen, a game the Oakland A's were 303 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 3: playing against the Baltimore Orioles. That's crazy, And Marciana started 304 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 3: at third base, and our friend was there for some reason, 305 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 3: was living in Washington s at the time, went up 306 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 3: to Baltimore catch a game of Camden between. 307 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 2: The A's and the Oriols. But actually they were both 308 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 2: good that year, twenty sixteen. 309 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 3: I think they were both good that year. 310 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 2: I don't know if the Oriols were, the A's probably were. 311 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 2: I think that was the last year, right, wasn't that 312 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 2: That was. 313 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 4: The Obaldo Yes, that was exactly. 314 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was that year. 315 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 3: The both teams actually in the Pennant race. 316 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 2: That's like so not that. 317 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 3: I think that was the went all in too, and 318 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 3: they traded. I want to say that was the smart 319 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 3: Jude trade. 320 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 4: That was twenty fourteen when I got last or also, yeah, 321 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 4: that was. 322 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 3: Fourteen, okay, but I think the Ads were still probably 323 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 3: in the thick of it, definitely around So Hilario said, well, 324 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 3: first of all, the A's and Oriols were playing a 325 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 3: hoighly contested game towards the end of the year. Second 326 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 3: of all, that Marcana started at third base. Yeah, but 327 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 3: Marcana went up to the dugout he got a small 328 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 3: infielders glove. He was bending around a little bit. It 329 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 3: was like a blackenedal. 330 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 2: No, he actually uses outfielders glove. He said, are you serious? 331 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 2: He said, he didn't have an infield glove, so he 332 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 2: just used now for it, like a backup glove. Yeah. 333 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 2: I think it was a backup on probably just so 334 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 2: that wasn't like too broken in because you don't want 335 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 2: to like necessarily always close the glove. Yea by means, 336 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 2: but he's just out there taking rounds at third base. 337 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 2: And during the whole time, the Apple broadcast was I 338 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 2: don't know what's going on. I mean, to be fair, 339 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 2: it was really hard to figure out what was going 340 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 2: on because, like you really would have had to pay 341 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 2: attention to Jeff McNeil running off the field to think 342 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 2: anything was wrong. 343 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 3: I was flipping back and forth with the Jets preseasons. 344 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 3: I wanted to watch Zach Wilson throw his his interception, 345 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 3: and I turned back on I literally see Markanna like 346 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 3: taking ground Boston. 347 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 2: What the hell just happened? What did you have for 348 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 2: a shot? I saw you had something. 349 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was just gonna follow up on that. Twenty 350 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 5: sixteen athletics team it was a nice year for them. 351 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 5: They finished with sixty nine wins. 352 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 2: Nice of it totally wrong on that. Baltimore was, Yeah, 353 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 2: Baltimore was, He's had a couple good years. 354 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 3: There's no mistakes. 355 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, Chris Pass it was probably on that. 356 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 3: But then after this ending happened the Mets, Shureser got 357 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 3: through the next sitting. It seemed like, honestly, this chaos 358 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 3: moment kind of helped him lock in yeah, because he 359 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 3: just freezed through the rest of his game at. 360 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,599 Speaker 2: But I feel like sometimes with Sureser, he needs like 361 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: a little chaos so that like he can like almost 362 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 2: like like trash talk himself a little bit on the 363 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 2: mound and be like, what are you doing? You gotta 364 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 2: you gotta step up, Like he's he's nuts, he's crazy. 365 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 2: We've seen him yell at himself on the mound like 366 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 2: he's like, once your deviation away from Ken Giles, punch 367 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 2: himself in the face and he doesn't pitch well. So 368 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 2: I think schures Are likes sometimes a little bit of 369 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 2: adversity to almost like lock in. 370 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 3: Buck gave a really interesting interview though after this, because 371 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 3: with the Apple TV broadcast to do sideline interviews, the 372 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 3: matches in between innings and whoever was I forgot who 373 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 3: was on. 374 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 2: Apple TV doing this, but Heidi White Watney, Hidy Watney. 375 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 3: Yep, thank you, Mark. She was like, what are you 376 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 3: gonna do a short bench arrest of the game, like 377 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 3: you have any other backup infielders? 378 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 2: And Buck goes out. We have some pretty versatile pitchers. 379 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 3: And little did we know until the next day, when 380 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 3: Gary was talking about this inning on Saturday, that Jacob 381 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 3: de Grom put his hand up and volunteered to go 382 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 3: in and play their base. 383 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 2: I mean, it makes sense. He played shortstop in college. 384 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 2: He was a pretty good shortstop in college from what 385 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 2: it seems like too. That being said, thank you, Buck, thank. 386 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 3: You for and also Pete volunteered as well college third base. 387 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 2: Yes, at Florida actually started off as a third baseman. 388 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 2: I played third base literally through his entire car. Who 389 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 2: would you have rather seen, barring the outside circumstances, play 390 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 2: third base though? Jacob de Grim repeat Alonzo like, who 391 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 2: do you think you would have rather had there? 392 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's a lovely question. I guess you're like, 393 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 3: if I just would like to keep Jacob de Gram 394 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 3: is far away from anything, but I'm saying, oh, he 395 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 3: can't cant nothing back can happen, nothing bad happen. Jacob 396 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 3: really best content ever see. 397 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 2: I think I might take Pete. I don't know. 398 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 3: I think the ground's probably decentfielder out there definitely probably 399 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 3: still can he has a gun. 400 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, we definitely definitely can make the throw. But I 401 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 2: mean Pete's over at first base the throw. That would 402 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 2: be the interesting thing for Pete to see how he 403 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 2: would throw from third base, because I honestly, I don't 404 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 2: know if the arm is really there for Pete. He's 405 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 2: he's arm good first basement, but the third base might 406 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 2: be a little fun. Yeah, and Pete's a long experience though. 407 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 2: Just I'm happy that Canda did it, and Canna actually 408 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 2: did take a hot shot from real Muto and he 409 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 2: made a play. Yeah he didn't. He said after the game. 410 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 2: He's like, I wasn't trying to do too much. I 411 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: just wanted to get the ball and throw to first 412 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 2: and hopefully be okay. And that's he's Marky Cheerios, that's 413 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 2: what he does. He's like, I don't want to do 414 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 2: too much. I'm not honey nut cheerios. I'm regular cheeros. 415 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 2: I'm good for your heart. 416 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 3: I want to now, like, as we start doing more 417 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 3: player interviews, I want to ask more guys like what 418 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 3: their emergency position is orra ass guys with other players 419 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 3: emergency positions are. Because now we know the Markannon is 420 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 3: the emergency third basement, Like, I want to know about the 421 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 3: emergency shortstop, emergency catcher, who can play emergency outfield, Who's 422 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 3: the emergency pitcher, Like I want to know these things. 423 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think at least in the past 424 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 2: catcher was Jeff McNeil. And that's because through like Twitter 425 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 2: and everything like that. I think I tweeted out once 426 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 2: and McNeil, who followed me or follows me at the time, 427 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 2: he was like, oh, yeah, I am the emergency catcher, 428 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 2: Like that's me. Because someone was like, no, he's not. 429 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 2: He's like, yes, I am. I feel like that could 430 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 2: also be the thing. Jeff McNeil's like, I am the 431 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 2: emergency catcher. Yeah, I guess it's a Who do you 432 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 2: think would be the emergency catcher? 433 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 3: I would definitely I would assume either McNeil or Gill 434 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 3: or may. 435 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 2: Gi or may could definitely be a. 436 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 3: I feel like Orma could be the emergency catcher. Then 437 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 3: he could win a go glove in three years. 438 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 2: And I don't know if this is just me, but like, 439 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 2: I could totally see Darren Ruff also being a catcher. 440 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 2: I don't know why I could see him like big, 441 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 2: and I think it's also big. I think it's also 442 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 2: because I'm getting confused with former Phillies prospect as well, 443 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 2: Cameron Rupp, who was a large man who caught as well. 444 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 2: So I think that might just be skewing me a 445 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 2: little bit. But I could see Rough behind the plate 446 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 2: maybe yeah, But this. 447 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 3: Was this was the biggest juice that happens the entire game, 448 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 3: because just after this, like Ranger Suarez and Max Schers 449 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 3: are both sell them to a very nice groove. Shares 450 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 3: or especially who wound up going seven innings allowing nine hits, 451 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 3: but five of them came in the first two innings. 452 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 2: And there were like I mean, Stott hit the ball well, 453 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 2: but they're kind of dinks and doinks a little bit, 454 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 2: but they're only four hard hit balls the whole game. 455 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 2: I would never say that they were lucky. 456 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 3: Though, No, of course, baseball that's what losers say. Yeah, 457 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 3: if you call another team lucky, you really you really 458 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 3: you should you wish you with it one? 459 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 2: It sounds like you wish you one. 460 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 3: Yeaheah, that's a shame. We have more fun with these 461 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 3: lucky stuff this week as we go on the road 462 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 3: to Atlanta and to Philadelphia. 463 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 2: But only four base. 464 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 3: Runners over the next five innings for sures, are after 465 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 3: those two innings, or yeah, five innings after the first 466 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 3: two winnings, six strakeouts only that wonder and run. Guy's 467 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 3: just such a gamer, Like we talked about this like 468 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 3: very much. But even when he doesn't have his best stuff, 469 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 3: which didn't seem like he did. Yeah, he didn't really 470 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 3: have the normal like fifty percent whiffs on his slider. 471 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 3: It was only like around like the twenties and thirties. 472 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 2: I think, weirdly in his career too, the Phillies might 473 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 2: have been the team that he's like fared the worst 474 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 2: against in terms of the National League East, especially. I 475 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 2: think this year too, it's been like his worst starts, 476 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 2: I say with big air quotes, because he doesn't pitched poorly, 477 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 2: but I think the Phillies just might maybe give him 478 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 2: a little bit of a tougher time than some other teams. 479 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 2: It happens like, that's not really something I'm worried about, 480 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 2: because he still had a great game and still very 481 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 2: much kept this in this It's just we couldn't. We 482 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 2: couldn't hit Ranger Suarez, which is frustrating. 483 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 3: Well, the Phillies bullpen was just frustrating as well because 484 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 3: we had not even chances, but just felt like the 485 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 3: vibe and city Field was so amazing. People were screaming 486 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 3: we did the Oh yeah, I've never heard that in 487 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 3: a baseball game. 488 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 2: Really, I haven't heard in a long time. I think 489 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 2: during the playoff round twenty fifteen they were doing that. 490 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 3: Francisco Lindoor hit that shot into the center into the 491 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 3: night sky and ninth inning, I cannot believe it didn't 492 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 3: go out. 493 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 2: Get unbelievable how that ball did go out. But what 494 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 2: do we remember we were talking about the weekend that 495 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 2: the balls all of a sudden, it was specifically Friday. 496 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 2: But this ball Indoor hit in the ninth inning one 497 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 2: hundred four miles an hour off the bat. Do you 498 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 2: have a lunch ang on it? 499 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 4: Throwing the launcheng, I can get one real quick. 500 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, But it was a barrel. It looked like it 501 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 2: was twenty ros deep. It looks like a walk off 502 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 2: home run. I had no doubt in my mind. Out Yeah, 503 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it didn't get out of the ball 504 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 2: I follow. 505 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 3: I mean, there's a lot of guys do park factors 506 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 3: on Twitter and apparently. 507 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 2: Shout him out, but you don't know the name. I 508 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 2: will shout him. 509 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 3: Out right now, keep scrolling, I'll find it. But apparently 510 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 3: Friday night was there was like thirty percent less expected 511 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 3: home runs. 512 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 2: And I was telling you when I saw you the 513 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 2: next day, I was like, we were watching games and 514 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 2: there was balls that I thought were for sure like 515 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 2: ten rows deep, and they were just like caught significantly 516 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 2: from the warning tracks. Some balls that were hit didn't 517 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 2: even make sense. 518 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 3: Shout out at ballpark p A L thirty thousand on Twitter. 519 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 3: Good good stuff, Good daily park factors for abab By 520 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 3: Daily Fantasy players or anyone just trying to get an 521 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 3: edge and any way they can, anywhere, anywhere you can. 522 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 2: Thought the ball was gone, thought the bets were gonna 523 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 2: be able to get it. Obviously did not. We had 524 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 2: the weird play and extras not an extras in the 525 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 2: ninth inning right where Sawing Marte got thrown out on 526 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 2: the Dan Vogel b back line drive to left field. No, 527 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 2: that was extras. That was extras. Yeah, that's what I saying. 528 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 2: By the way, on that uh windoor, so one hundred 529 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 2: and four to twenty five degrees that should really run, 530 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 2: should be crushed, really should be like four hundred and 531 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 2: forty feet. But nonetheless we had that weird play with 532 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 2: Vogel back sawing Marte. Would you think you send them there. 533 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 3: So they're looking at job or second? I mean, I 534 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 3: definitely send them. I know Veerling is a good athlete 535 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 3: and has a good arm, but at that point, like 536 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 3: you need to make a perfect throw together. He did 537 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 3: make a perfect thrown by three steps. 538 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 2: Apecially the Phillies. Like I don't care who it is 539 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 2: on the Phillies, whether or not they are a good 540 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 2: fielder or not. I will challenge them every single time 541 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 2: to make a perfect play like he was. He was 542 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 2: out by like three feet. It's just hurt. 543 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 3: In the tenth inning when the exact opposite thing happened, 544 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 3: Starling Marte didn't make a perfect throat, didn't make a 545 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 3: perfect throw like he fired the ball in that almost 546 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 3: ninety eight miles an hour. Yeah, it just it came 547 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 3: on like a weird thing between hot Pernido and he 548 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 3: was in front of the plate. Because that's a new rule. 549 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 2: And apparently they sent out memos this weekend to all 550 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 2: the major league teams that they're going to be looking 551 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 2: at the blocking the plate rule because apparently they felt 552 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 2: like catchers were taking advantage of it recently. If Neil 553 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 2: could have blocked the plate on that that was like 554 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 2: exactly where the ball would probably could would have had 555 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 2: his left leg right in front of the plate, would 556 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 2: have been right here, bang, and we'd probably still be 557 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 2: playing that game. That game was not going anywhere. You 558 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 2: lose games. That's what happens. By no means, was I worried. 559 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 2: By no means, was I stressed? And honestly, I want 560 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 2: to give a shouts to Metz Twitter. Mets Twitter was 561 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 2: reasonably okay. Yeah, Like there was like some people who 562 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 2: were like the stinks, especially because David Robertson came into 563 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 2: the game and got the final three outs. But for 564 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 2: the most part, I didn't see panic, which is like 565 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 2: a huge that's a huge step forward. 566 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 3: Wells, I mean, David Roberson got those outs, but Metsweather 567 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 3: can a line when there's something that can, like, you know, 568 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 3: can unify them, and that Tyler and Aquin called third 569 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 3: strike against David Roberson. Everyone could be like, we're blaming 570 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 3: the umpire. We're not blaming the Mets' moving on because 571 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 3: it was a bad call. I want to briefly also 572 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 3: shout out Michael Givens, who pitched a very good tenth 573 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 3: inning with the ghost runner on, only allowed that run 574 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 3: to score on the how that run yeah, and putting 575 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 3: the flyout Yeah, gives me an unbelievable play earlier in 576 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 3: that inning on swinging but where he like the ball 577 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 3: was off to the third base side the pitcher's mound, 578 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 3: and he went down to a slide, came up firing 579 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 3: and threw strike. 580 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 2: The first base pitchers are athletes too. I didn't know 581 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 2: he could move like that. I when he slid, I 582 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:29,479 Speaker 2: was like, oh no, I was like, this is going 583 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 2: to be thrown away and absolute strike depete. It was 584 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 2: really really impressive play, but yeah, Mets lose. 585 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 586 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 3: One more stat from John before we wrap up Friday night. 587 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 3: Max Schez took forty three pitches to get through the 588 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 3: first two innings and just fifty five so to get 589 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 3: through innings three through seven. 590 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 2: He was cruising. That's awesome. He was cruising. 591 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 3: It almost felt like for half a second he was 592 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 3: gonna come back out for the eighth. 593 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 2: I thought he might. Yeah, but and end of the 594 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 2: day didn't really end up mattering medsdn't score, he runs. 595 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 2: Let's talk about game two though, Game two to Grim 596 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 2: on the mound. We were here for this one, yeah, 597 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 2: both of us were here. Had a friend of him 598 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,719 Speaker 2: from South Carolina. Shout out base case check him, check 599 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 2: him out on Spotify as a rapper. But he makes 600 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 2: some music. I gotta give a shouts about boy. But 601 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 2: Jacob da Gram on the mound, it's always a different 602 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: feel when he's out there. Like we've now been at 603 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 2: all three Jacob de gram starts this year, which is 604 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 2: kind of cool. That's cool. It's on purpose and on 605 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,719 Speaker 2: accident at the same time. I was pretty on purpose, 606 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 2: well purpose, very much on purpose, and I planned to 607 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 2: go to all of his starts as long as I had. Yeah, 608 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 2: I mean Atlanta this week, will say, Yeah, we'll see 609 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 2: if we take a trip down to Atlanta. Simple man. 610 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 2: He's turned that song into an electric touch, a banger 611 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 2: I listened to when I was working on Thursday, I 612 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 2: mean like Leondard Skinner one of the great bands, of course, 613 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 2: for sure, but simple Man is not a song I 614 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 2: would have considered necessarily to be electric and de gram 615 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 2: every I got goosebumps. Again. I don't know what it is. 616 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 3: It's just so crazy that all these New Yorkers are 617 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 3: like just jamming out to Leonard skinnering. 618 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 2: So the people around us. There was like an older 619 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 2: group of like five or six Mets fans. It looks 620 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 2: like they were all couples that like do one game 621 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 2: a year, and they were they were jamming the Simple Man, 622 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 2: and I was like, this is electric. And the wife 623 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 2: of one of the guys turned around, She's like, this 624 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 2: is one of the greatest songs of all time. She's like, 625 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 2: I'm so happy. 626 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 3: He's probably not untrue. There's a lot of people in 627 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 3: a lot of parts of the country who would say that. 628 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 3: But just he he was so good from the start. 629 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 3: It never it never wavered for a moment, like there 630 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 3: wasn't even though the Mets were only winning this game 631 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 3: one nothing. They were winning one nothing from the first 632 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,719 Speaker 3: inning while the Grama was on the mound. There was 633 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 3: not a moment of fear. 634 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 2: No, I didn't feel nervous with him out there. There 635 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 2: were plenty after he left the mounds, yes, but while 636 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 2: he was on the mound, there was literally nothing to 637 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 2: worry about. Six innings, two hits, ten strikeouts, seventy six 638 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 2: pitches seventy six and six is crazy. Only with ten 639 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 2: strikeouts and the first batter of the game, Bryson is not. 640 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 2: He had three balls on that guy the round through twelve. 641 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 3: The rest of the game after that fifteen fifty I 642 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 3: think it was it was fifteen sixty one, or was 643 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 3: sixteen sixteen something like that. 644 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 2: Something I mean he was, it was he. 645 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 3: Was so locked in to get that many strikeouts without 646 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 3: ever working in the count is like it's stupid, doesn't 647 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 3: make any sense, Like like I love the city field 648 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 3: cheers for the strikeouts. 649 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 2: Yes, it's like lathered most other pictures. Everyone's like, like, 650 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 2: he's doing it, he's doing it again. We just we 651 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 2: missed Jacob. That's what it is. 652 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 3: The kind of like God forgot, like how really good 653 00:22:58,640 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 3: he was. 654 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 2: I think like maybe even like he could have forgot 655 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 2: a little bit too. He talked about I didn't know this, 656 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 2: and I. 657 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 3: Forget like purposefully cause I didn't want him to hurt 658 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 3: me again. 659 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 2: Yes, but like I think he was talking about it, 660 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 2: or Gary was talking about on the broadcast today on Sunday. 661 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 2: He was saying that Jacob apparently still gets extremely nervous 662 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 2: before every single start, that he's like just a nervous wreck, 663 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 2: keeps pacing. He's like, I don't know, I need to 664 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 2: like do something. He's like I every single start, he says, 665 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 2: feels like he's like first one. 666 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 3: Basically, I think a lot of that's because he's such 667 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 3: a perfectionist. Yeah, and like when he like he wants 668 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 3: to be on, he wants to do every single thing 669 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 3: possible to help his team win. And like he did 670 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 3: he did that on Saturday for sure. Yeah, four to 671 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 3: two percent whif rate in the fastball, forty one percent 672 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 3: of the slider, which is it's a step back for 673 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 3: him from his last start, but it's something will accept. 674 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 3: And he just did that amazing thing that Jacob Degream 675 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 3: does sometime where he's throwing one hundred miles an hour 676 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 3: with the whiteout slider and the command is perfect. 677 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just put in the ball where he wants it. 678 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 2: Bryson's side almost got thrown out in the first inning. 679 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 2: Because he put a ball. I don't know how you 680 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 2: put a round ball into a corner like he did, 681 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 2: but he hit it so perfectly. Bryson Stott thought it 682 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 2: was a ball. Should have gotten tossed. The umpire needs 683 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 2: to umpire needs to know. 684 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:04,959 Speaker 3: Jacob the Grams in the mounch show some respect. 685 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, a rookie trying to show up the umpire while 686 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 2: the Grom's pitching. You think you know where the ball's 687 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 2: going better than Jacob. Come on, get out of here, 688 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 2: Bryson Stott. 689 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 3: So, Jacob, the Grom's made three starts now this year, 690 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 3: he's faced fifty six batters. Of those fifty six bathers, 691 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 3: twenty eight have struck out. That's half from people at home. 692 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 3: One has walked one walk. 693 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 2: Where was that walk? What was that walk? 694 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:24,959 Speaker 3: Because that Washington? 695 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 2: Or was that Braves? I don't remember, do you remember, John? 696 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 4: Yeah? It was Michael Harris right before the Dan. 697 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 3: That was the one swing a perfect game, yes, and 698 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 3: after that was the first time anyone touched his slitherer 699 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 3: off that ridiculous. 700 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 2: Michael Harris doesn't even walk. You know, I'll be just 701 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 2: like I don't want to swing. I wouldn't swing either, 702 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 2: I gotta make contact. I'm good. 703 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 3: Fifty six batters, six hits, three earned runs, two of 704 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 3: them coming out of Dansby Swanson. One home run is 705 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 3: giving up in the fifty six batters, and he's throwing 706 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 3: three hundred and eighty pitches, seventy one percent of been strikes. 707 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 2: Guy hasn't pitched in a year, came back and he's like, 708 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 2: I'm still the best pitcher in baseball. In case any 709 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 2: of you guys were wondering. He's so good. 710 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 3: It's like it's like a little bit shocked and a 711 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 3: lot comforting. 712 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 2: Oh, it's so sick that he's back on the team. 713 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 3: And I heard, like multiple people in the ballpark yesterday. 714 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 3: I was like having these thoughts in my head to 715 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 3: where like if I'm planning my bathroom trips for my 716 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 3: food trips, like I'm going while the Mets are hitting. Yeah, 717 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 3: Like I want to get back and watch Jacob du 718 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 3: Gram pitch. 719 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 2: Must watch baseball, Like if you're especially if you're a 720 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 2: baseball fan, a fan of pitching, you stop what you're 721 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 2: doing and watch Jacop to ground pitch every time. 722 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 3: Definitely, and you have to give a little bit of 723 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 3: credit or more than a little bit. You have to 724 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 3: give us a lot of credit in this game to Aaron. 725 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 3: Nola went to toe with to Grom as he's done 726 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 3: many times in his career. Good pitcher when frame for 727 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 3: frame with him, gave the one run the first and 728 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 3: absolutely shut the Mets out after this. The very rare 729 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 3: but one of my favorite things that ever happens in baseball, 730 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 3: the eight in incomplete game. Yeah, I love that so much. 731 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 3: It's such like a stupid thing. I love so much, 732 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 3: Like it's great. 733 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 2: But uh, Phillies don't win when he's on the mountain. Weirdly, 734 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 2: and now No. Nine and thirteen and Nola starts this year, 735 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 2: what the hell kind of gets the old the ground 736 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 2: treatment the Phillies. 737 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 3: This year as they've had this amazing hot streak and 738 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 3: they're actually having a very good season. They are under 739 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 3: five hundred in games started by Aaron Olan. 740 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 2: Zach will I think you sent me ten and thirteen. 741 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 3: And then Wheeler Wheeler. They were five hundred going into 742 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 3: today and now they're one game onder because they lost 743 00:25:58,320 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 3: a Wheeler start today. 744 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 2: What a shame. Feel bad for those fielings, those two 745 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 2: great pictures. They can't win those games. Wasting, wasting, away. 746 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 2: Whatever will we do as Bets fans, Like. 747 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 3: No, it was awesome, Like it was like the knuckle 748 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 3: curve was curving. You had the good color going like 749 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 3: it was. The Mets could not hit him close to 750 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 3: hitting and thank god we got to the our bet 751 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 3: in the first. 752 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 2: Because this was gone. The extrainding zero zero is huge, 753 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 2: and then the game was really tense once the Graham 754 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 2: guy the game. As we mentioned, Trevor May, Lugo, Diaz 755 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 2: were the last three guys. Lugo, May, Diaz. Yeah, they 756 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 2: all did fine. They all did. They all didn't let 757 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 2: up a run. 758 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 3: No one let up any runs. 759 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 2: So this was it was okay, but boil boy, was 760 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 2: it tight? 761 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 3: But like Lugo and May, there wasn't even reason it 762 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 3: got any reason for it to be tighter. I don't 763 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 3: even think they allowed base runs. May May allowed one. 764 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 2: I think May allowed one. But like they both looked 765 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 2: really good. Yeah, they both looked sharp. Trevor May throw 766 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 2: in ninety seven like that makes me. 767 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 3: Feel good, and he had a great slide of the strikeout, 768 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 3: Nick May Mayton, Mayton Mayton, and then Diz came in 769 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 3: and it was I think I don't know if this 770 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 3: was new things for this weekend. You guys have new 771 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 3: graphics for the Trumpets. 772 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 4: We did. We blew it out. 773 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean once a Sunday happened and that that 774 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 5: video went viral. Yeah, it kind of became like we 775 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 5: are going to make this thing. Yeah, and it's a thing. 776 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sure. 777 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 5: You've seen the video at home already. There's there's no 778 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 5: better entrance. And did you see the thing in DC? 779 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 4: Last night? 780 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 5: On the Nationals broadcast they were doing a read and 781 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 5: Trumpets was. 782 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 4: On in the background. 783 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 5: Really and and Bob Carpenter, the Nationals pet by play guy, says, 784 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 5: don't worry Edwin. 785 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 4: They were on a graphic. I mean, it's it's a 786 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 4: sensation sweeping the game. 787 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 3: It's you know that Narco's by Timmy Trumpet and Blaster Jacks. 788 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 3: Is the Wow number five song. 789 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 2: Steal My steal My Statuh yeah. 790 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, I just took it from me before Mark I 791 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 5: saw you. I mean, it's unreal what this man is doing. 792 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 2: Crazy. 793 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 4: It's such a vibe too when he comes in the game, 794 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 4: like the. 795 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 3: Fact that like I was looking around my section, I 796 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 3: saw like a bunch of like older people like just 797 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 3: completely vibing out like, yeah, there was a guy behind 798 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 3: me during the May inning, like a guy who two 799 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 3: years ago I'm sure would have said some mean things 800 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 3: about Edwin. He was like, we just gotta get this 801 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 3: Game of Nights in and get Edwin the ball. Like 802 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 3: they we're in a situation now where we're like, we'll 803 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 3: like get him the ball and then you can't of 804 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 3: get this guy in the game. And everyone I saw 805 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 3: maybe fifteen thousand phones go up and the trumpets came 806 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 3: on too. It's it's electric and so and why did 807 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 3: the great thing on their broadcast where Edwind wasn't black 808 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 3: and white? 809 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 2: That was good and cool. 810 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 3: The second he walked through the gate he went into 811 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 3: color that was started running. 812 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 2: That was really cool. I mean you've seen like on 813 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 2: TikTok or Instagram or whatever it is, like his entrance 814 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 2: now is like also like a meme format that like 815 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 2: goes viral and stuff, where like you just you start, 816 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 2: you're doing your thing, you're saying goodbye at work or 817 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 2: whatever it is, and then as you're getting ready to leave, 818 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 2: you do that the Edwin Diaz job with the trumpets 819 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 2: going in the background. He's got that jogged down, by 820 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 2: the way. 821 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 3: That's how that jog down. We gotta do that TikTok 822 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 3: for that. 823 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a smooth job. And also I love like, 824 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 2: you know when Diaz is on, when he like throws 825 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 2: a strike and he like runs at the catcher like 826 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 2: he like takes like ten steps like snags out of 827 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 2: the air. Granted, the Phillies ended up putting up with 828 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 2: decent ending here. 829 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 3: This was not One's best ending of it by any means. 830 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 2: But he started off hot. 831 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 3: He did start I mean he started off hot, but 832 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 3: it was just one of those games or felt like 833 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 3: a few years ago. Edwind just didn't really have command 834 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 3: of the pitches. He'd mostly the slider. 835 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, they weren't biting on the slider, no, and then 836 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 2: the fastball was like around the plate but not on it, 837 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 2: like the vossy was still there. But something Edwin did 838 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 2: that I liked a lot during this outing, this ending, 839 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 2: I guess I call it is that when he knew 840 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 2: it wasn't working, like he stepped off, he went behind 841 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 2: the mounds for like one point seemed like fifteen twenty seconds. Yeah, 842 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 2: he just like sat there really slowly gathered himself. And 843 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 2: you you scared me too. Before the game too, because 844 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 2: we were talking. We're on the boardwalk enjoying beverages and 845 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 2: we were talking about like what bets should we make today. 846 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 2: We're just having a conversation, and I think the name 847 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 2: Nick Castillanos came up for a home run and James goes, 848 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 2: Nick Cassiano stinks and I was like, oh no. I 849 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 2: was like, he came up in the ninth. I texted 850 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 2: you immediately. I was like, I hate you. I was like, 851 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 2: you gotta be kidding me that you said this right now. 852 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 2: And he has a chance to win the game for 853 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 2: the Phillies. Luckily he did not because he stinks. 854 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 3: Mark said he was light, he was light heaven and 855 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 3: he was having it out of body experience. 856 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 2: I literally felt like I hadn't taken a breath for 857 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 2: like thirty minutes at that point, Like I was like, 858 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 2: I don't think I'm breathing enough. I don't think I'm 859 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 2: enough oxygen going in my brain. It was crazy. 860 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 5: Did you guys know last night biggest crowd at City 861 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 5: Field this season? Saw It's amazing and what a huge moment. 862 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 5: And the double steel makes moment even bigger. Yeah dy 863 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 5: and go ahead run in scoring position. 864 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 3: That was that was sketchy. 865 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 2: That was not of that. No. I mean, listen, Edward, 866 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 2: focus on the battery, strike out the guy. You don't 867 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 2: got to worry about those bat story. And when you 868 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 2: strike out fifty percent of the guys, that's that's fine 869 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 2: by me. That's the old. 870 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 3: Satchel page trick where you would like go traveling to 871 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 3: traveling baseball games and he would like put guys on 872 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 3: every single base and take all his fielders off the 873 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 3: field and then strike the next. 874 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 2: Three guys out. Yeah, so cool, but awesome job. I 875 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 2: think I think I saw a stat that said the 876 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 2: last time the Mets had a one nothing shut out, 877 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,959 Speaker 2: it was started by Jacob Degram and ended by Edwin Diaz, 878 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 2: which is like a weird kind of stat I've I 879 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 2: heard about. 880 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 4: It was Opening Day twenty twenty. 881 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 2: Oh wow, you want assess it on the team? That 882 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 2: was that was fun. Remember we disappeared for like weird 883 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 2: an hour. 884 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 3: That was bizarre. 885 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 5: And the last time the Mets beat the Phillies won 886 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 5: nothing was exactly twelve years ago to the date last night. Really, yep, 887 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 5: it was the Dicky one hitter when obviously Cole Hanils 888 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 5: picks up the base hit of course. 889 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, oh Orry, Dicky man, we've thrown out some 890 00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 2: names today. 891 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 3: Was that during the run where he went to Tampa 892 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 3: afterwards and did and had the one hitherto or something 893 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 3: like that? 894 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 4: Twelve? Yeah, I was twenty twelve. 895 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 5: This is kind of when Dicky, you like, became a 896 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 5: thing because he was just a nondescript pick up by Omar, 897 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 5: didn't have ligaments in his arm. 898 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 2: Now a knuckleball. 899 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 5: It was twenty twelve though, when he went on their 900 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 5: own Orioles race were the one hitters. 901 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 2: I'm bad, I'm bad. 902 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 3: Crazy stuff here, and the guys did nail down to 903 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 3: save two hundred of his career. Second closer since the 904 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 3: start of twenty sixteen with two hundred saves. Said that 905 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 3: one said that one. De Grom sets MLB record for 906 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 3: consecutive home starts with two or fewer earned runs allowed. 907 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 2: Good. 908 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 3: That's pretty awesome. 909 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 2: He's a good picture. He's really good. That happens when 910 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 2: you're good. 911 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 3: Another great staf from John here. Highest trike got rating 912 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 3: Baseball minimum fifty batters faced, Edmund d S fifty two 913 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 3: point two percent, Jacob the Ground fifty percent. 914 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,479 Speaker 2: Well, they like weirdly in like this bizarre way arc 915 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 2: the same picture kind of. 916 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 3: I mean the rather moves way more than that Diaz. 917 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 2: They both throw like one hundred two. Yah. They both 918 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 2: have great accuracy with that slider. They both strike out 919 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 2: half the guys they face. It's just Jacob Grim pictures 920 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 2: six innings. 921 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 3: Do you know who else is weirdly similar to Jacob 922 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 3: de Gram? Who the guy who starved with the Phillies 923 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 3: on Sunday? Zack Wheeler is he? 924 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 2: Though he? I mean the way he you see, I'm 925 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna have a fight with you here 926 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 2: about this when you gave me crap about the Edwin 927 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 2: da as being similar. Like, well, his slider, Zaq Wheler 928 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 2: doesn't throw one o two. He throws like ninety nine. 929 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 2: Not that's not the same as one oh two. There's 930 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 2: a big difference there. I mean, I'm sure it's actually 931 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 2: relatively close. But Zaqueler throws curveballs. I thought he throws 932 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 2: curveballs now too, though he does a little bit, but 933 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 2: it's fastball slide. Zack Wheeler always as Zaqueler and de Grim, 934 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 2: don't even put them in the same sentence, said similar, Yeah, 935 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 2: the only similar. No, the pictures like move the exact's 936 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 2: best picture on the planet. Heyes, similar, Edwin, he has 937 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 2: the best closer on the planet. Zach Wheeler just got 938 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 2: smacked by the New York Mets on Sunday. Tell me 939 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 2: that guy's a bet like de Gram facetious. 940 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 3: I don't know if that's right used to that word. 941 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna drop it in there. I don't think 942 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 2: that's that. 943 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 3: I think the similar. I think it looks similar out there. 944 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 3: The wind up pretty similar. It seems like he picked 945 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 3: up a lot of things from spending time with JACKB. 946 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 4: De Grom. 947 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, probably learned a thing or two. It looks 948 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 2: like he literally looks the same as him on the mat. 949 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 2: All pictures, all pictures should be around Jacob Grim as 950 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 2: much as possible. 951 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think it helped him out. It didn't help 952 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 3: Mountain Sunday. I think it's helped him out the last 953 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 3: few years of his career. 954 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 2: No, Cy Young, he's not nothing. You should have won 955 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 2: last year. It's still around Corbin Burns, is my Cy Young. 956 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 2: That's not true. Don't take that back. I mean it. Man. 957 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 3: You probably for Tony Gonsolin this year. 958 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for Max Schurz Or who should be the sing or. 959 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 2: Edwin Diaz has a real case to be a Si Young. 960 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 2: He'll be top ten if he stays on this space. 961 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,479 Speaker 2: He's having the best reliever season of all time, easily so, 962 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 2: by far, better than any reliever season ever happened. Er 963 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 2: Ganye wont to cy Young. I think, didn't krod Win 964 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 2: a sion when he got all those saves too? 965 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 3: No, I don't think you want. 966 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 2: To say no. Okay, er Ganye did that. 967 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 3: He did, but that was also the height of the 968 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 3: steroids era, and their pictures was worn as you know. Yeah, 969 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 3: people can crush. 970 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 2: I know the one that I think it gets compared 971 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 2: to ails the Mariano of seven season? Was it? 972 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 3: You think we struck out like twenty percent a second? 973 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 2: Win's doubling that, Like Edwin, I think Edwin has a 974 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 2: real case for a cy Young talk right now. I 975 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 2: don't think he has a case to win it, but 976 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 2: I think he has a case to be top five. Okay, 977 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 2: that's hard for me to give her leave of the Yeah, 978 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 2: he's gonna throw like eighty even though you love relievers. 979 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 2: I love relievers. 980 00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 3: I love how could you not love relievers? 981 00:33:59,200 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 2: There? 982 00:33:59,400 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 4: They're electric? 983 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 2: Talk about this game now, Game three, let's wrap it up. 984 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 2: You're now wrapping it You like to read off the stats, 985 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 2: you're the stack guy. Game started off very nicely for 986 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 2: Ciscal Indoor. Oh, first of all, brand Nimo start off nicely, 987 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,240 Speaker 2: hitting a rocket right off the bat against Zach Wheeler. 988 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 2: Did feel like he was aggressive again, Yes, aggressive, he's 989 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 2: been Well, we're hot and cold on Nimo's aggressiveness because 990 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 2: there are a couple of bats on Saturday where he 991 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,359 Speaker 2: swung for his pitch it was either two or row, 992 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:23,959 Speaker 2: or was last three at bats of the game where 993 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 2: they're either men on or we were just dying to 994 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 2: run up Aaron Nole's pitch count. And he swunk in 995 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 2: the first pitch sometimes a couple of times and men on. 996 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 2: It was like, that's not a. 997 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 3: Little better maybe, but I think it's something that he 998 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 3: is trying to do, is like, just put the bat 999 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 3: on the ball more. I think he wants to hit 1000 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 3: more rather than walk more, which I get that he's 1001 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 3: so it's a contract here. 1002 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 2: It's ironically a walk here. Oh nice from John there, 1003 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 2: nice player, go, but. 1004 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 3: Hit the rocket, got the third base and then Francisco 1005 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 3: Indoor drove him in with a wonderful blooper, setting the 1006 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 3: tone for a lot of the Mets bloopers. 1007 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 2: On Sunday took a line driving the books to make 1008 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 2: driving the. 1009 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 3: Books for sure, laser beam off. Franciscal Indoor's mom set 1010 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 3: the Mets singles. He in record for runs batter than 1011 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 3: by a short stop, passing Jose Race. 1012 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 2: Guys thinks he's horrible. 1013 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,720 Speaker 3: He's terrible, and Lendor did it one hundred and fourteen 1014 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 3: games to Grace one hundred and fifty three. When he 1015 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 3: did it in twenty sixteen. 1016 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 2: He's so good for it. Six sixteen typo John with 1017 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 2: the typo that's me, that's mean, that's that's on me, 1018 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 2: That's on me. I should have read that twenty sixteen 1019 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 2: Rose Race. He came back. I know he was on that. 1020 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,439 Speaker 2: He played like. That's probably killed me for a second. 1021 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 2: Was like one hundred and forty games for they that 1022 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 2: year good a year from Jose, shockingly. 1023 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:31,479 Speaker 3: A year from Jose. 1024 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 2: But I love that. 1025 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 3: And then we just had nice remembrance of what the 1026 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 3: Phillies are at their core. And I believe it was 1027 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 3: the fourth inning of this game, which was just not 1028 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 3: really making all the plays in the field, not that 1029 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 3: there were plays that they really should have been making, 1030 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 3: but it was a lot of chaos. I gave them 1031 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 3: as four runs. 1032 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 2: A lot of line drives, Mark Canna, Luis or May 1033 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,439 Speaker 2: James McCann's big hit Gym getting in there as well, 1034 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,760 Speaker 2: Brandon Marsh being just real dumb out there in centerfield 1035 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,359 Speaker 2: and just flipping the ball in the second base, which 1036 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 2: was crazy, knowing that. 1037 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 3: McNeil would run around had up. 1038 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 2: I think Ron on the broadcast said that even if 1039 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 2: he got thrown out the plate, which he should have 1040 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 2: been because real Mutto also botched the ball at the plate, 1041 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 2: He's like, that's that's aheads of play. That's something as 1042 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 2: like a team. You go like, I love that. I 1043 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 2: love to see that. 1044 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 3: I was listening to this part of the game on 1045 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 3: the radio on my way to the park and how 1046 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 3: he was loving it. He was like, in a great 1047 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,720 Speaker 3: heads up play by Jeff MacNeil, extending the Mets league. 1048 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 2: That's that's big. 1049 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 4: Uh. 1050 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 2: I'm waiting for the people to give Buck credit for 1051 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 2: that one. Oh yeah, yeah, it's all I'll bucked on 1052 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 2: the round that base. But also just Joey kra that 1053 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 2: whole ding like it looked like the arm was gonna 1054 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 2: come out. I mean again, I was watching on the radio, 1055 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 2: but I saw some highlights afterwards. Actually, this way, it 1056 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 2: looked like it was coming out of socket. Arm's gonna 1057 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 2: fly off. One, Arm's gonna fly off, or he's gonna 1058 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 2: leve the tape. He's one of the most animated third 1059 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,439 Speaker 2: base coaches I've ever seen him, pointing to the ball, 1060 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 2: pointing to the ball going into Alec Bohm's gloves, selling 1061 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 2: he has the ball he loves. He got low on 1062 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 2: the vogel back when he tagged in Game one from 1063 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 2: second base. He got down on the ground, literally an 1064 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 2: inch away from third base, on the dirt and was 1065 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 2: screaming down like I love. I love the theatrics from 1066 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 2: Joey's He's he's nuts, We'll go back. 1067 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 3: Also hit the home run just after this. Fourteen home 1068 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 3: runs this year, as it doesn't even hither, tying Bryce 1069 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 3: Harper for the most of the National League. 1070 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 2: Sounds like we have the best DH in the National League. 1071 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 3: We have we have great dhs now we do. 1072 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 2: I love this great how this team just has the 1073 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,359 Speaker 2: versatility now to have just really good bets. 1074 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 3: All the time. And the Phillies did get a few 1075 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,240 Speaker 3: guys on the inning after like a rally. 1076 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 4: Ye. 1077 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 3: But Chris Bassett, I think because there was a Moutain 1078 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 3: visit where it was like it was going back and forth, 1079 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 3: and Hafner was like, this is it winning by five, 1080 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:21,720 Speaker 3: We're not gonna stretch you out here that much empty 1081 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 3: the clip? 1082 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 2: You got a big strikeout? Who's track out to another ning? 1083 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 2: I was, I was in transit to the game. 1084 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,879 Speaker 4: I got it right here and that inning I'm scoring. Yeah, 1085 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 4: it was it was ver Ling. 1086 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 2: And stop Stot, stop stop. So he got a big 1087 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 2: strik out on Stott, Bryson Stot. Really just ever since 1088 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 2: I heard his walk up songs was Uncle Cracker drift Away, Like, 1089 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 2: I was like, that's a horrible that's like top five 1090 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 2: worst walk up songs you could pick. It's not the. 1091 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 3: Worst song, but it's not a bad it's a bad 1092 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,439 Speaker 3: walk up song. Lindor had a great walk up song, 1093 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 3: winning by six nothing in the eighth and the seventh inning. 1094 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 4: Today. 1095 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 3: Could you be loved by Bob Marley? He's got like 1096 00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 3: was jamming. 1097 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,399 Speaker 2: He has to win the award if there was one 1098 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 2: for most walk up Songs. Saturday at Aba Bay by 1099 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 2: a hurricane Chris which I couldn't believe that came out. 1100 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 2: He's he's had it. Feels like almost every single game 1101 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 2: a different song, which leads me to ask, like, is 1102 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,320 Speaker 2: there a playlist, and it's just he has it like 1103 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 2: listed by game. But I feel like there hasn't been 1104 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 2: that much repetition to it. No, I feel like Lindor 1105 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:16,879 Speaker 2: might be given out like ten new songs a week, 1106 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 2: got it, which is exhausting. Listen having a career season. 1107 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 3: Literally do anything else you gotta do. 1108 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 2: The guys in the MVP conversation Bassett though, like you said, 1109 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 2: really uh bulldogging bulldog. He got that dog in him, 1110 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 2: He's got that basket hound in him. 1111 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,439 Speaker 3: Look at that basket pun five innings, five strikeouts, four hits, 1112 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,359 Speaker 3: two walks, good star thirteen whiffs, more than Wheeler had 1113 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 3: in this one, which I love to see. And Bassett, Hey, 1114 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 3: there's John, thank you for thank you for writing it twice, 1115 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 3: highlighting it and making it really larger. As I was 1116 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,800 Speaker 3: in the middle of the sense, opposing batters against Bassett 1117 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 3: this year one seventy nine average with runners in scoring position. 1118 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:52,839 Speaker 2: That's big, bearing down, bearing down. 1119 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 3: If that was happening the other way, I'd be like 1120 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 3: it's a bad luck just happening good for us bearing down, Well, 1121 00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 3: we know luck doesn't exist. 1122 00:38:59,080 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 2: No, yeah, that's trick. 1123 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 3: I mean all the Mets are so lucky. Yeah, unbelievable. Yeah, 1124 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 3: it seems locked their way in almost eighty wins. 1125 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,279 Speaker 2: Losers talk about luck? Losers? You talking about winners win? 1126 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 2: What's the ald stupid corny saying about luck? Like luck? 1127 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,320 Speaker 3: Is that luck? Is that like the the nexus of 1128 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:13,399 Speaker 3: opportunity and something? 1129 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 2: Stupid? I'm not even gonna try, you know, I don't 1130 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 2: know it. 1131 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 5: I'm out on this one. Make your own luck. I 1132 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 5: thought you were going to go that way. 1133 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 3: But I'll take that one though. 1134 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,720 Speaker 2: You make your own use facetious as a noun today, 1135 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,439 Speaker 2: so that's not right either. 1136 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 4: Right. 1137 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 3: Oh my god, the game success success called you got 1138 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 3: luck and opportunity. 1139 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 2: Wow, that was not where you started at all. But 1140 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 2: you know what the Mets are right now? Successful? I 1141 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 2: think successful season. So far, they've been great. This is 1142 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 2: the fewest runs they've allowed in a three game series. 1143 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 2: It's September eighth through the tenth, twenty fourteen versus the Rockies. 1144 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,240 Speaker 2: Who's who's even on those Rockies teams? Aernado's story. Probably 1145 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 2: right now. 1146 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 5: I don't even think all the team Carsales maybe must 1147 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 5: have been. 1148 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 2: Probably Saw on that team too, he was traded twenty fifth. 1149 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna look this up, ran Ryan Langerhans. Yea, I 1150 00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 2: bet you guys on this one. Yeah up roster Okay, yeah, 1151 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not clicking. 1152 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 4: I'm not. This is good. 1153 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:05,400 Speaker 2: I bet you so. 1154 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 4: Their second basement. We should know that. 1155 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 2: Clint Barmes, we should know. Oh, David John the catcher 1156 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,400 Speaker 2: has to be Chris Ian give me Ryan. 1157 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 4: Spilborg's No, I think he was already in the broad out. 1158 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 2: No, you're getting old. That's like mid two thousands again. 1159 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 4: Ryan Langerhans. How about this David Wright's best friend. 1160 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 2: Okay, I yes, yeah, right before we signed him exactly. 1161 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 2: Charlie Black was on that team too, Charlie it was 1162 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 2: a latch field left field. 1163 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 4: How about this Corey Dickerson. That's where over Corey dickers. 1164 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 2: He has played all that you ball though, still there 1165 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 2: he should be I think in twenty fourteen. 1166 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,400 Speaker 5: But it was a bullpen that Rooki year. No, he 1167 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 5: got drafted twenty thirteen, I think, so he wouldn't have been. 1168 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 2: We know nothing about this twenty fourteen Rocky steam on 1169 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,399 Speaker 2: that team. Oh yeah, he was, he wasn't he wasn't 1170 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 2: good yet. 1171 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,320 Speaker 4: Who else do we have here? Franklin Morales Jordan was 1172 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 4: in the starting uie scene. Want to costio fireballs one 1173 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:09,760 Speaker 4: a comebacker off the head didn't. 1174 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,839 Speaker 2: Hey, so did Chris Bassett, not that long ago. 1175 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,840 Speaker 4: No, at first base, good Canadian boy. 1176 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 2: Good Canadian boy, first baseman. 1177 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,719 Speaker 4: Justin Moore? Now, oh man, it was that. 1178 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 2: That was a bad Rocky team. 1179 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 4: Huh yeah? How many one is there a good rock 1180 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 4: How many wins? 1181 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 2: How many wins did they have that here? I'm just. 1182 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,320 Speaker 4: Sixty six, even fewer than at twenty sixteen. 1183 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 2: Almost the head, Yeah, that makes sense. Sixty six wins there. 1184 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 2: And there was there's a good TikTok meme. I don't 1185 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 2: know who did it, but there was like some girl 1186 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,359 Speaker 2: who was talking. She's like, you know what I love 1187 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,360 Speaker 2: about men. They'll just sit in a room and just 1188 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,719 Speaker 2: just name players. You say, dude all the time, you say, like, 1189 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,279 Speaker 2: twenty fourteen Rockies, name players. You threw out guys from 1190 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 2: two thousand and seven and eight, and we and we 1191 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 2: were thoroughly entertained. We were excited to hear to spill boards. 1192 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 2: Spillboards on that team. 1193 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 4: And that is my favorite name from that roster. Jason 1194 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 4: Priory form met he was a. 1195 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,320 Speaker 2: Part of the Marquee Marque. 1196 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 3: Was not on that team, was he? 1197 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 2: No? But fun fact, my dad taught him Jason Marquee school. 1198 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 4: Yes, wow, that guy. 1199 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,959 Speaker 2: What's subject? Nice? History guy? Yeah? Nice? 1200 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 3: That makes sense. 1201 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 2: You guys, can you guys can chat it up about history? 1202 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 2: The reconstruction? What one hundred years war? 1203 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 3: Joan of arc shut her out, but wrap up this 1204 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 3: series of the Phillies. The mester four for ten runns 1205 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 3: in scoring position. On Sunday, the Phillies were just two 1206 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 3: for twenty one runs score position the series. Terrible Wheeler 1207 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,320 Speaker 3: had allowed five runs as previous four stars entering today. 1208 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 2: That's awesome. That's high five. Yeah, that's high five. Frick yeah, 1209 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,800 Speaker 2: oh my god, that's amazing. Phillies didn't score run what 1210 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 2: so you gotta say he's the gram like and he 1211 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:48,279 Speaker 2: gives up six runs today similar he could be Yeah, hey, 1212 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 2: Mark de Gram, I. 1213 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 3: Don't think the business an exactly Okay, I'm taking shots. 1214 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,399 Speaker 3: The Phillies didn't corner and runs since the first inning 1215 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 3: on Friday. 1216 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 2: Not a good team. 1217 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 3: That's crazy long time. 1218 00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:58,719 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I have so much fun when we 1219 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 2: beat the Phillies. I really like. The Braves are obviously 1220 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,360 Speaker 2: are our team. We're keep an eye out here, but 1221 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 2: it's nice to beat the Phillies too, for sure. 1222 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 3: And the Phillies will probably make the playoffs. Definitely good 1223 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 3: shot to make some noise. 1224 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,840 Speaker 2: Definitely they have good pitch, they have two good pictures. 1225 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, we have a conversation last night that the Phillies 1226 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,880 Speaker 3: are probably better than the teams in the Central Definitely. 1227 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 3: Like I'd rather play the Cardinals or the Brewers and 1228 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 3: the Phillies and the playoffs in a heart beat, yes, 1229 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 3: and a harp And like the Phillies and Padres, I 1230 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 3: think with Brice Harper back they're similar ish, Yeah, similar ish, 1231 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 3: especially no tatis. 1232 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 2: Yes, that's that happened. 1233 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 3: That's how the Phillies haven't scored the run since that 1234 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 3: news first standing on Friday. Oh my god, geez, Mets 1235 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,919 Speaker 3: starting pitchers only allowed one run in this series. Also 1236 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 3: that first standing on Friday. No runs for seventeen straight 1237 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 3: for Mets starting pitching. 1238 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,400 Speaker 2: It must sounds lucky to me. It's so lucky. 1239 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 3: This team is so lucky, the fact they get they 1240 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 3: pitched shoutouts. 1241 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 2: Every game, luckiest team in baseball. 1242 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,439 Speaker 3: And with this wonderful another series win, the Mets still 1243 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 3: I actually don't want to say that. 1244 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:59,400 Speaker 2: Okay, don't say it then, yeah, what you're talking to 1245 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 2: the king now? Percent I don't want you to say either, 1246 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 2: but the Mets. The Mets have played really well in 1247 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,919 Speaker 2: every series against National Leagueese teams this year. Yeah, they've 1248 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 2: been great. Whatever, that's no, that's okay, I'll allow that. 1249 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 3: I will say this mess of thirty nine wins against 1250 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 3: the nleast this year that matches total from last year. 1251 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 3: And we are one hundred and fifteen games into the 1252 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 3: season and we still I think another series or two 1253 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 3: against the Nationals. 1254 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 2: We move with a huge, huge couple series coming up 1255 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,440 Speaker 2: again on the road. But before you do get going 1256 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,319 Speaker 2: into that, we gotta have a little bit fun here. 1257 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 2: As you guys know, we have to talk about the 1258 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 2: estimate I lost again again because Kyle Schwarber was really 1259 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,879 Speaker 2: hoping when not he got one at bat. He got 1260 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 2: one at bat in a pinchhit scenario. So that means 1261 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 2: that the bet I guess we're calling it the gay 1262 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 2: the game counts and I lose, I lose after. It's 1263 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 2: a real shame with the as one from the previous 1264 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 2: week has been voiding. 1265 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 3: Universal karma because you guys tried to conspire against me. 1266 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 3: Eve though I won that one to try to take 1267 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,400 Speaker 3: it off the board, and this one they gave me 1268 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,359 Speaker 3: one back very easily because ironed bolt. 1269 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,239 Speaker 2: I'm just never gonna pick the under unless you say 1270 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 2: something crazy. 1271 00:44:58,120 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 3: Well, then you're gonna wear it. Like see theo next 1272 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 3: the rovers only. 1273 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 2: I like to have fun. Great, you want to see more. 1274 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 2: You know, it's gonna be really fun wearing a tuxedo 1275 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,839 Speaker 2: to a baseball game. Listen, you might be wearing all 1276 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 2: your your sweaters, your sweatshirts, your wool hats. I'll be 1277 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 2: nice and warm in my tuxedo and looking sharp at 1278 00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 2: it will look at. That being said, though, we have 1279 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,360 Speaker 2: another estimate because the season is not yet over. No 1280 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,839 Speaker 2: it's not, and crazier comebacks have happened. 1281 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,080 Speaker 3: Through But thinking I believe it's six to one now, 1282 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 3: yeah it is six to one. 1283 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:23,919 Speaker 2: It's tough. 1284 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:25,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was terrible. 1285 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 5: I mean Thursday, I'm sitting doing some work preparing for 1286 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,799 Speaker 5: the series, scrolling Twitter, and I see Kyle Schwarber has 1287 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 5: left the game, and I'm thinking, oh, well, maybe they're 1288 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 5: getting blown out. Nope, it's three nothing, They're right in 1289 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 5: the game. And then I find out that he actually 1290 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 5: has an injury. And I sent you guys to face 1291 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,759 Speaker 5: Palm and Ylgi because I was honestly afraid that we 1292 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 5: were going to have another situation where the player who 1293 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 5: was the center of estimate didn't participate in the series, 1294 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:49,840 Speaker 5: which then James. 1295 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 4: Is gonna be ordinary about that, and I don't want that. 1296 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,920 Speaker 2: That's why you bet the under sos are subjective. You'll, yeah, 1297 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:57,440 Speaker 2: the books would avoided it, but. 1298 00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,840 Speaker 4: They would have just like my team Candle World Juniors. 1299 00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:06,279 Speaker 5: But but anyway, so, yes, Kyle Sharber pinchating did solidify 1300 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:07,239 Speaker 5: put a stamp. 1301 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 4: On that mark. I'm sorry. 1302 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta take that one. 1303 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, I gotta take it up with the Phillies coaching 1304 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,359 Speaker 5: staff there. But there's another chance to kind of chip 1305 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,680 Speaker 5: away at the deficit here, never give up. So here 1306 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,360 Speaker 5: we go a four game series in Atlanta coming up 1307 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,400 Speaker 5: for the Mets and Braves. Mets pitchers have not allowed 1308 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,320 Speaker 5: a home run in four straight games. Now I know 1309 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:25,919 Speaker 5: you're looking at me like there's another jinks. 1310 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:26,560 Speaker 2: I'm okay with that. 1311 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 4: But you know what, last night's game, by the way, 1312 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:30,360 Speaker 4: or Saturdays, I should say. 1313 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 2: You want to know why? But didn't you text us? 1314 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,600 Speaker 4: I was busy. I was thinking, God, need you busy? 1315 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,320 Speaker 2: During games? War name is? 1316 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,359 Speaker 3: Also after the game, we went to a great bar 1317 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:40,960 Speaker 3: in Long Island City. Oh yeah, shout out the l 1318 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,399 Speaker 3: C bar bartender out there for every da ground. Storry said, 1319 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,360 Speaker 3: sometimes SHOs starts now he writes the k's on napkins 1320 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,319 Speaker 3: and takes them up on the bar and he does. 1321 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:50,440 Speaker 2: Any l C bar. 1322 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:51,919 Speaker 4: I just said, Oh, I thought you were just saying 1323 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 4: a bar called l C bar. 1324 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 2: It's very creative. Yeah, good bar, good bar, fun time. Yeah, 1325 00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:58,480 Speaker 2: had some live music, some blues. 1326 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,280 Speaker 4: Yeah which blue fan anyway? 1327 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:02,719 Speaker 2: So not the hockey team. 1328 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,000 Speaker 5: I was gonna say, we love talking pot on the show, 1329 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,240 Speaker 5: all right, So uh yeah, Met's pictures. 1330 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 4: No homers allowed in four straight games. 1331 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,600 Speaker 5: There were eleven total homers hit between the Mets and 1332 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,879 Speaker 5: the Braves and the five game series we saw last week. 1333 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,919 Speaker 5: So now the question is how many total home runs 1334 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,080 Speaker 5: will be hit during this four game series. Who's gonna 1335 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:21,479 Speaker 5: go first? 1336 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:22,839 Speaker 2: I think who said it last time. 1337 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:24,319 Speaker 4: I went first last time. 1338 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,040 Speaker 3: All the rules now I try and go against. 1339 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:27,799 Speaker 2: I think it's my turn. I think it's turn. Yeah, 1340 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,120 Speaker 2: I think you you went. 1341 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 3: First last time. I'll let you go first again. 1342 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,520 Speaker 2: I went first during dis Then you go first, me 1343 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:33,960 Speaker 2: go first. 1344 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:38,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, I'm gonna go something very calm, very easy. 1345 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,399 Speaker 2: Five. Oh god, it's a really good number. 1346 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 3: Five home runs a four games series. I know where 1347 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 3: Mark's going here. 1348 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm clogover. 1349 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:44,920 Speaker 4: I have to go over. 1350 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:46,719 Speaker 3: You can be hot week you can be hot weekend, Lanta. 1351 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:47,239 Speaker 3: Four games. 1352 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:48,920 Speaker 2: You know How'm gonna get beat by this one? 1353 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 4: Right? 1354 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:50,879 Speaker 2: Mets are gonna hit five home runs, The Braves aren't 1355 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 2: gonna hit a single, and I'm gonna be like, I 1356 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:55,960 Speaker 2: can't get any help from it later, Are you kidding me? 1357 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,359 Speaker 2: I'll take that. I mean I'll be happy. Yeah, I'll 1358 00:47:58,360 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 2: be happy as long as the Mets win. Yeah, I 1359 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,000 Speaker 2: mean if the Mets winning they also hit home runs 1360 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:03,200 Speaker 2: and I win, then I'm even happier. 1361 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:04,560 Speaker 3: Exactly, But I'm going five. 1362 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,920 Speaker 2: It would be quite the turn of events if this 1363 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,279 Speaker 2: thing got close and we had a little September race 1364 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:10,399 Speaker 2: that it would be fun. 1365 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,960 Speaker 3: But then I would still come back to this Alexis 1366 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 3: DS fiasco. 1367 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,799 Speaker 2: It would be an asteroids next to it. And then 1368 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,200 Speaker 2: the other thing we want to talk about too, because 1369 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:19,400 Speaker 2: you know, we like to have a little bit fun here. 1370 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,319 Speaker 2: Towards the end, we want to talk about our Big Three, 1371 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,800 Speaker 2: which is guys who we think should be in the 1372 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,279 Speaker 2: Baseball Hall of Fame. It was something that we had 1373 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,240 Speaker 2: a discussion about in the production office during this weekend, 1374 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,440 Speaker 2: got very heat. I shouldn't say heated, because everyone was 1375 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,479 Speaker 2: an animated. It was animated. That's a good one because 1376 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 2: everyone was friendly in discussion, but there were a lot 1377 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,799 Speaker 2: of names being thrown out there. So I thought would 1378 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,440 Speaker 2: be a good time to discuss it on the podcast. 1379 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,320 Speaker 3: And we were talking more about current players who we 1380 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,000 Speaker 3: think could reach the Hall of Fame, but this one 1381 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,319 Speaker 3: we're gonna talk about guys who are no longer playing anymore. Yeah, 1382 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:45,160 Speaker 3: who we think should be in. 1383 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,840 Speaker 2: And there's this is a very long list, but a 1384 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 2: lot of great players. I want John to go first 1385 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,880 Speaker 2: because John John's really trying to Yeah, John John's like 1386 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,520 Speaker 2: now the real Mets fan. Really, he's really just a man. 1387 00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,440 Speaker 2: He lacks values just so he talks about numbers that 1388 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:00,360 Speaker 2: this is, this is. 1389 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:01,920 Speaker 5: This is. 1390 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:06,200 Speaker 2: That's all I'm gonna say. I think that was good though. 1391 00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 2: That's that's the second reference. I think we're to have him. 1392 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:10,600 Speaker 3: It was kind of it was Casiano's weekend here. 1393 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:14,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, so John, Yeah, go ahead, get get everyone's blood boiling, 1394 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:14,920 Speaker 2: go for it. 1395 00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:15,480 Speaker 4: I'll say it. 1396 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,800 Speaker 5: I think Chase Utley is a hall of boo peers 1397 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,319 Speaker 5: to second base, especially for he had a peak. 1398 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 4: Let me pull it up here. He had a one 1399 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:25,680 Speaker 4: thirty three oh ps. 1400 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,520 Speaker 5: I believe it was over a six year peak from 1401 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:32,600 Speaker 5: two thousand and six to twenty eleven, eighth most war among. 1402 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,080 Speaker 2: Using five year windows dowelve. 1403 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,480 Speaker 4: He was talking about the peak. He didn't have a 1404 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:40,920 Speaker 4: fifteen to twenty year career. 1405 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:45,040 Speaker 5: Chase Uttly, Jim hanged them up earlier than Willie Randolph 1406 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:48,520 Speaker 5: did or other guys. When you look at total wart Whitakers, 1407 00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,480 Speaker 5: a lot of those guys played a lot longer than 1408 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,840 Speaker 5: Chase Utterly. And if you want to say, well he retired, 1409 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,320 Speaker 5: he fell off the cliff and that's why he retired, 1410 00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:01,279 Speaker 5: that's cool, But I'm all per capita here. Look at 1411 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,280 Speaker 5: the war sixty four and a half war over his career. 1412 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,560 Speaker 5: That's right there with Roberto Alamar in the Hall of Fame. 1413 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,040 Speaker 5: He played about four hundred fewer games than Alamar did, 1414 00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 5: not that far from Ryan Sandberg about two hundred games. 1415 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:16,920 Speaker 4: Less, I get it. 1416 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 5: No met fan wants to hear anyone say anything nice 1417 00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,360 Speaker 5: about about Chase Philly Less sure. 1418 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:25,480 Speaker 2: But you know what makes a topical. 1419 00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 5: There's a Philly that I dislike more from yesteryear. It's 1420 00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:28,359 Speaker 5: it's absolutely cool. 1421 00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:29,280 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 1422 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,399 Speaker 4: He goes on radio and says in his voice, where 1423 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:32,920 Speaker 4: the team to be? 1424 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:33,759 Speaker 2: Where's the team to be? 1425 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:35,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you. 1426 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:37,000 Speaker 2: I don't want to be the one to do it. 1427 00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:38,800 Speaker 5: I don't want to be the one to do it, 1428 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,839 Speaker 5: but yes, thank you. Chase Uttly, say what you want. 1429 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,640 Speaker 5: He was an incredible player and a pain in the 1430 00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:45,399 Speaker 5: tuckis as well. 1431 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,719 Speaker 2: I'll say this, I'll say, I'll say one nice thing 1432 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:50,440 Speaker 2: about Chase Utley, and then I'll get I'll get on 1433 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,680 Speaker 2: my tirade, probably, but I have I have a player. 1434 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,120 Speaker 2: That being said before he broke Rubento hot his leg. 1435 00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,960 Speaker 2: Yes I hated him, but I respected him. Once he 1436 00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,799 Speaker 2: did that and really took in the villain role he became. 1437 00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,560 Speaker 2: He became rat number one in my list I worse 1438 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,759 Speaker 2: than Burl. Yeah, because Burl. Burl just killed us. You 1439 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,239 Speaker 2: respect Burl, but he wasn't a dirty player. He was 1440 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,279 Speaker 2: he wasn't He wasn't dirty. He was what he was. 1441 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:13,960 Speaker 2: Burl didn't over extend himself ever. 1442 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,040 Speaker 4: Chase Lee thinks he's a first overall pick. 1443 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:17,440 Speaker 2: He was a first overall pick. 1444 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:18,960 Speaker 4: I think he was out of Miami. I don't know. 1445 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,040 Speaker 2: I didn't know. He's a Miami guy. That makes Steven 1446 00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,680 Speaker 2: more sense probably, but Burl that makes less sense. No, 1447 00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,440 Speaker 2: it makes looks like he was burned like three blocks 1448 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:30,160 Speaker 2: away from cis first overall ninety eight. Wow, I did 1449 00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,359 Speaker 2: not know that about him. Yeah, I mean time draft. 1450 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:33,959 Speaker 2: I feel like there were like seven rates trade drafts 1451 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:34,239 Speaker 2: there was. 1452 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, I want that guy. The Uptons were around there 1453 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 3: to Hamilton. 1454 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:43,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Chase Au Lee. I just he's it 1455 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,480 Speaker 2: was really good. He's my second most hated player of 1456 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:46,799 Speaker 2: all time. Roger Clemens number one. 1457 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,080 Speaker 3: You're gonna put Chase ali in the Hall of Fame. 1458 00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:49,640 Speaker 3: You have to put Bobby Gritch in the Hall of Fame. 1459 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, Okay, well, thank god we have that. Bobby 1460 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,480 Speaker 3: Gritch had more war Chase Aliens same amount of seasons 1461 00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,040 Speaker 3: only eighty more games better War for one sixty two 1462 00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,040 Speaker 3: he had almost the exact same amount of home runs. 1463 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,399 Speaker 3: You're talking about a second base and hungry, Like, I don't. 1464 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:03,920 Speaker 3: I just don't think at least that spectacular in the 1465 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:05,600 Speaker 3: scheme of all second basement, like this guy should be 1466 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:06,120 Speaker 3: in the Hall of Fame. 1467 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:07,800 Speaker 2: He's gonna be. 1468 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,279 Speaker 5: He might be when you look at the war, you 1469 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,160 Speaker 5: look at war rankings is way behind it, and he 1470 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:14,799 Speaker 5: has a lot, he has more story to write. 1471 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,960 Speaker 2: I think I think that the weird cheating thing is 1472 00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,520 Speaker 2: gonna be weird with when all Asos guys get to 1473 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,800 Speaker 2: that point, the cheating thing will come up. But I 1474 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,560 Speaker 2: also think that Altuve is just more like he's more 1475 00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:27,520 Speaker 2: central to what's been going on in baseball last ten 1476 00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,279 Speaker 2: years and ugly really ever was likely just like I 1477 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:31,720 Speaker 2: don't know, he was like a folk hero in Philly 1478 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,359 Speaker 2: and like Mets fans haten at least a blip. Yeah, 1479 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,319 Speaker 2: you could tell a story of baseball without talking about 1480 00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:37,280 Speaker 2: Chase Utley. 1481 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,480 Speaker 4: Won the title though wait he didn't single series. 1482 00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:43,759 Speaker 5: First ending of that World Series, he changes the entire 1483 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:44,640 Speaker 5: complexion with a homer. 1484 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, whatever, Sure, I hate Chase this one. I 1485 00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,560 Speaker 2: will be the biased Mets fan. There's never a world 1486 00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:51,920 Speaker 2: you'll get me to call him a Hall of Famer, 1487 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:53,839 Speaker 2: even if he makes it. I will I will stop 1488 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,160 Speaker 2: caring even the slightest bit about the Baseball Hall of Fame. 1489 00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,480 Speaker 4: Or the position. That's all I'm saying, the position. 1490 00:52:58,560 --> 00:52:59,520 Speaker 2: He's a failed shortstop. 1491 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:03,440 Speaker 3: Jason Jay Sudley was never top five and war in 1492 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,800 Speaker 3: a particular season. He was only top ten three times. 1493 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,359 Speaker 3: He only really had like an eight or nine year peak. Again, 1494 00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:09,960 Speaker 3: like again, you compared to a guy like Bobby Gritch, 1495 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 3: you didn't even get a sliver of love for the 1496 00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,880 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame, similar power numbers, It was more versatile 1497 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:18,520 Speaker 3: on defense, play multiple positions, and you just there's no way. 1498 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,200 Speaker 2: Way you want to talk about not getting a sliver 1499 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:21,600 Speaker 2: of love from the Hall of Fame. I'm gonna go 1500 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,560 Speaker 2: talk about my guy now. This is my soapbox, and 1501 00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:25,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get on top of it. I'm gonna die 1502 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,040 Speaker 2: on this hill. Carlos Delgatto, you guys might remember him 1503 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,839 Speaker 2: former met. The fact that Carlos Delgatto got kicked off 1504 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,759 Speaker 2: the ballot in his first year is insane because this 1505 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,799 Speaker 2: guy should be a Hall of Famer, no doubt. I mean, 1506 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:38,960 Speaker 2: he's getting the Fred McGriff treatment. It doesn't make any sense. 1507 00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,560 Speaker 2: From nineteen ninety six to two thousand and eight, that's 1508 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:45,640 Speaker 2: what twelve thirteen seasons, whatever it is, Carlos Delgatto averaged 1509 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,279 Speaker 2: thirty five homers, thirty six doubles, one hundred and twelve 1510 00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,399 Speaker 2: RBIs with a two to eighty average for a power 1511 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,200 Speaker 2: hitting guy, three eighty six on base, which is insane, 1512 00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,040 Speaker 2: five point fifty two slugging, nine thirty eight OPS. That's 1513 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,279 Speaker 2: an OPS plus of one forty. I looked at guys 1514 00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,200 Speaker 2: like Albert Poohols, who you considered to be one of 1515 00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,200 Speaker 2: the best first base of all time and one of 1516 00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,400 Speaker 2: their best twelve year stretches. Puls was at one thousand OPS. 1517 00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,399 Speaker 2: But you're talking about one of the greatest players ever. 1518 00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,600 Speaker 2: Carlos Doogato during this time During this time period was 1519 00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,560 Speaker 2: just unbelievably good. He had multiple forty home run seasons, 1520 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:16,880 Speaker 2: drove in one hundred and forty five RBIs one hundred 1521 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:18,800 Speaker 2: and thirty a few times. He was so good with 1522 00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,000 Speaker 2: the Mets. His career ended a little bit early because 1523 00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:22,680 Speaker 2: of that injury that happened in two thousand and nine. 1524 00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,239 Speaker 2: He wasn't able to keep playing. But this guy was 1525 00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,640 Speaker 2: one of the best hitters in baseball that did not 1526 00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,080 Speaker 2: get enough love because you had all the big names 1527 00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,560 Speaker 2: like Bonds and Griffy and Sosa Maguire a Rod going around, 1528 00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:35,640 Speaker 2: so he kind of went under the radar. But I 1529 00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,680 Speaker 2: don't even I think he got one or two votes 1530 00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,000 Speaker 2: on the Hall of Fame ballot, which that's that's like 1531 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,080 Speaker 2: disrespectful to the game of baseball. You're supposed to be 1532 00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,640 Speaker 2: the people who are, you know, teaching the history of 1533 00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,080 Speaker 2: the game to the next generation, and to not even 1534 00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,440 Speaker 2: have Delgado make it to the next year is insane. 1535 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,600 Speaker 2: Harold Baines is in the Hall of Fame, Carlosto Gotto 1536 00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,759 Speaker 2: is twice the player, five times a player, Oh bans 1537 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,080 Speaker 2: only in there's a personal favor as Jerry rein Star. 1538 00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,440 Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. I Carlos Sto Gotta not being in the 1539 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,880 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. That's the one that that really irks 1540 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:05,080 Speaker 2: me the most, because he really was just so good. 1541 00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,560 Speaker 5: It's the system, it's the backlog that's the problem. When 1542 00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,400 Speaker 5: you have guys turning in empty ballots. 1543 00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:14,640 Speaker 1: YEP, Carlos still Gato pays for it, especially when I 1544 00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,480 Speaker 1: guy like Verducci like makes a really well documented video 1545 00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,680 Speaker 1: using his beautiful like in gray leather opener to open 1546 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:23,759 Speaker 1: up his ball and put it on the table with 1547 00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:28,680 Speaker 1: dramatic music, video backs circling cameras, insane who put this together? 1548 00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:30,680 Speaker 3: My guy for the Hall of Fame. I think that 1549 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:31,400 Speaker 3: was a great pick. 1550 00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,839 Speaker 2: Thank you, go ahead, my guy. 1551 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,120 Speaker 3: Someone who had a very similar career to Chase Utley. 1552 00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:41,600 Speaker 3: One when Peter Browning of the UH of the Louisville Eclipse. 1553 00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,520 Speaker 3: No okay, Pete Browning had a great career from eighteen 1554 00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:46,680 Speaker 3: eighty two to eighteen ninety four ending up with the 1555 00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:49,279 Speaker 3: Brooklyn Grooms that can't be had a good had a 1556 00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,400 Speaker 3: good time with the Cleveland Infants as well. But I 1557 00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:53,000 Speaker 3: was just I was looking up guys to compare to 1558 00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:54,879 Speaker 3: Chase Utley, and I found Peter Browning. And those three 1559 00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:56,000 Speaker 3: team names are unbelievable. 1560 00:55:56,000 --> 00:56:00,480 Speaker 2: Cleveland Infants, Cleveland Infants, imagine the Brooklyn Grooms. They those 1561 00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,319 Speaker 2: were just things that exist in the world. They weren't 1562 00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:02,840 Speaker 2: even like like. 1563 00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,560 Speaker 3: City and that guy. But my player, who I think 1564 00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:08,439 Speaker 3: should be in the Hall of Fame because Mark knows 1565 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,600 Speaker 3: I love relievers. Of course, he's a reliever who's abitually 1566 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:11,919 Speaker 3: disrespected in the history of the game. 1567 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,520 Speaker 2: Former med also former Philly Yeah, okay, whatever, I'm just saying, 1568 00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:16,680 Speaker 2: it's topical. Billy Wagner. 1569 00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,839 Speaker 3: Billy Wagner is literally one of the best relievers who's 1570 00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,600 Speaker 3: ever played this game. He is such a freak athlete 1571 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:24,480 Speaker 3: that he was a right hander when he was growing up. 1572 00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:25,680 Speaker 3: I heard the story from Howie in the. 1573 00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,920 Speaker 2: Radio few years ago. Broke his arm, couldn't use it, 1574 00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:29,719 Speaker 2: start throwing lefty one hundred miles an hour. But it 1575 00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:31,080 Speaker 2: was supposed to be sick to be given. Could you 1576 00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:34,360 Speaker 2: imagine that two arms kissed by God, like breaking a 1577 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,239 Speaker 2: leg and like growing another one? Is unbelievable. 1578 00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:38,719 Speaker 3: But Billy Wagner one of the high strikeout rates in 1579 00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,200 Speaker 3: the history of baseball, one of the lowest eras Lowes whips. 1580 00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:42,560 Speaker 3: I think he does have the lowest whip in history 1581 00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:43,040 Speaker 3: of baseball. 1582 00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:45,520 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know about anymore, but I think as 1583 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:48,279 Speaker 2: he's up there, he's definitely up there. 1584 00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,000 Speaker 3: He like he's the only really thing that kills him 1585 00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:52,680 Speaker 3: in terms of like the Hall of Fame was not 1586 00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,960 Speaker 3: really having the same numbers that guys like Trevor Hoffman had, which. 1587 00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:57,759 Speaker 2: Is also like nonsense because he has four hundred, no, 1588 00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,279 Speaker 2: I know, and he was so good for soul. He 1589 00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,440 Speaker 2: also I don't believe he ever had, was in like 1590 00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,400 Speaker 2: a real Pennant race the Mets, the Mets two and six. 1591 00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:06,920 Speaker 3: But then he actually get to a World Series. Like 1592 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:09,640 Speaker 3: a lot of these relievers like Hoffman and mar they 1593 00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,239 Speaker 3: have the Marquee playoff moments. 1594 00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,480 Speaker 2: That kind of makes a reliever traded to Boston. The 1595 00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,960 Speaker 2: Mets trade him to Boston there for. 1596 00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:17,400 Speaker 4: Chris Carter the Animal Remember him? 1597 00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, really remember, I can't remember. I can't believe that. 1598 00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,480 Speaker 3: But Wagner, like he was so good for so long. 1599 00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:25,960 Speaker 3: Also he I mean, he's the only reliever I can remember. 1600 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:27,320 Speaker 3: What the enter Samman walk up song? 1601 00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:29,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, really good one. Yeah, it's like if you're a 1602 00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,000 Speaker 2: reliever and you have that song, like especially being the 1603 00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:31,560 Speaker 2: original one. 1604 00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:32,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's really cool. 1605 00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,720 Speaker 2: Well he's the best one, Yeah, definitely, no doubt. 1606 00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:36,320 Speaker 3: He and he truthfully is probably the best left handed 1607 00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:37,200 Speaker 3: relieve in history of the game. 1608 00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,000 Speaker 2: He had one bad season, quotation marks bad, and it's 1609 00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,680 Speaker 2: because he was hurt. Made only twenty eight appearances, six, right, 1610 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,080 Speaker 2: but otherwise every single year he had an ERA below 1611 00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,400 Speaker 2: three as a reliever, multiple seasons with one to fives. 1612 00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:52,360 Speaker 2: Like that's he's so criminally disrespected in the game of baseball. 1613 00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:53,800 Speaker 2: It doesn't make any sense to me. 1614 00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,640 Speaker 3: He even after he had a lot of injuries after 1615 00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:58,920 Speaker 3: his tenure with the Astros, Phillies and Mets coach of 1616 00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:00,760 Speaker 3: course in the Mets SNA guy that to a big contray. 1617 00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:02,320 Speaker 3: He's gonna have some injury issues. But also he was 1618 00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,880 Speaker 3: like used a lot over the years. Just sixty sixty 1619 00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,560 Speaker 3: seven was seventy appearing season. One year, his last year 1620 00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,400 Speaker 3: that he resurfaced with the Atlanta Braves, he was an 1621 00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:11,720 Speaker 3: All Star. He was like out a good year to 1622 00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,840 Speaker 3: two point one zero FIP, seventy innings, pitched one point 1623 00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:16,960 Speaker 3: four to three ERA for a season, like Billy Wagner, 1624 00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,720 Speaker 3: ebitually disrespected. I think if we're going to if the 1625 00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:21,960 Speaker 3: way that baseball's moving, we're going to have to find 1626 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,120 Speaker 3: a way to respect these guys who have different roles 1627 00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,120 Speaker 3: than the kind of traditional ones that the Hall of 1628 00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:26,760 Speaker 3: Fame was kind. 1629 00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:28,320 Speaker 2: Of built on. Cy Young is not gonna be around 1630 00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:31,680 Speaker 2: every time. Walter Johnson's Yeah, the gentleman's hurler, Christ Gooss 1631 00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,280 Speaker 2: just throwing three innings at the times closers. 1632 00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:34,720 Speaker 3: It's not gonna happen anymore. So if you're gonna look 1633 00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:36,440 Speaker 3: at baseball and look modern lens, you have to look 1634 00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:38,800 Speaker 3: at the guy who was by far the best lefty 1635 00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:41,400 Speaker 3: reliever of his era, one of statistically the best relievers. 1636 00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:42,720 Speaker 2: Of all time, especially left handed. 1637 00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:44,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. I think he probably was the 1638 00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,240 Speaker 3: best lefty reliever ever, one of the best relievers of 1639 00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,800 Speaker 3: his era, overshadowed by Hoffin and Mariano just because they 1640 00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:50,800 Speaker 3: were doing more things post season wide, especially half in 1641 00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,440 Speaker 3: the beginning of his career. But I think should be 1642 00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:53,919 Speaker 3: a Hall of Famer. 1643 00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:55,680 Speaker 2: Yep, got respect relievers. 1644 00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:55,920 Speaker 4: I like. 1645 00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:56,840 Speaker 2: I like our two picks. 1646 00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:57,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, good picks. 1647 00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:59,640 Speaker 3: I think there were two very I like our two 1648 00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:00,880 Speaker 3: picks included keep Browning. 1649 00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,680 Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, although I do love clips. 1650 00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:05,200 Speaker 5: No, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna let you know 1651 00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:07,960 Speaker 5: that Chase Elly had one, two, three, four, five, five 1652 00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,880 Speaker 5: seasons with an ops of over nine hundred snoop, what 1653 00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:14,080 Speaker 5: you were saying about, what you were saying about those 1654 00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,480 Speaker 5: days where he was like ten in the twenties, whatever. 1655 00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:18,360 Speaker 4: He was at the top of his class as the 1656 00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,800 Speaker 4: second basement. That's my entire point. I'll take it one 1657 00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:21,280 Speaker 4: step further. 1658 00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:23,440 Speaker 5: I'm not saying he is a Hall of Famer, but 1659 00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:28,520 Speaker 5: people underestimate how good Luis Castill was as a second basement. 1660 00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:33,160 Speaker 2: To any he was inclused a good player for whatever. 1661 00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:34,720 Speaker 4: Stroke, really, good player for a long time. 1662 00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:35,600 Speaker 2: Incredible is a stroke? 1663 00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:36,800 Speaker 4: Okay, fine, not incredible. 1664 00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:38,840 Speaker 2: He was a baseball player. 1665 00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,600 Speaker 4: He was a good met for the beginning of his tenure. 1666 00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:43,240 Speaker 2: He has one good Mets here. We did a few weeks. 1667 00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:46,320 Speaker 2: You're twisting, you're twisting it. The status twisted, and I 1668 00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:48,200 Speaker 2: don't no one come after me on Twitter, right said, 1669 00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:51,800 Speaker 2: actually gonna catch a little bitwitter fit. Now. We we 1670 00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:53,880 Speaker 2: highlighted him a few times, a few times, got a 1671 00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:54,920 Speaker 2: couple of followers. 1672 00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:58,280 Speaker 4: Uh few, Yeah, maybe throw another bone every now and 1673 00:59:59,200 --> 00:59:59,640 Speaker 4: pull back. 1674 01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,439 Speaker 3: Luis Castillo, in his three full years of the Mets 1675 01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:04,840 Speaker 3: had a wrs C plus over one hundred once. 1676 01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:08,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, horrible, he stunk. Yeah, I can't give Louis castillolove. 1677 01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,360 Speaker 2: I can't give Chase that Lea that year, of course, 1678 01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,800 Speaker 2: But like I wouldn't say he was verage. I will 1679 01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:14,840 Speaker 2: give Billy Wagner and Carlos deel Gotto love, which I 1680 01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:17,120 Speaker 2: think is a perfect way for us to end the 1681 01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:19,280 Speaker 2: Big Three and go into our finals. Thing here, which 1682 01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:22,080 Speaker 2: is a big series preview against the Atlanta Braves. Four games. 1683 01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:23,680 Speaker 3: Just saw him all five times. Not as much we 1684 01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:24,240 Speaker 3: can tell you about. 1685 01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,840 Speaker 2: Just saw them. No Max Freed though, No Max Freed. 1686 01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:29,160 Speaker 3: We are going to get either Kyle Muller or Bryce 1687 01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,120 Speaker 3: or Bryce Elder, who each filled in for them during 1688 01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:31,840 Speaker 3: the Marlin series. 1689 01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:33,960 Speaker 2: Give me Bryce lights out, gimme Bryce all. 1690 01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,200 Speaker 3: I think Muller is actually kind of a good good ball. 1691 01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:38,400 Speaker 2: He pitched well against us in the COVID year. I 1692 01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:40,200 Speaker 2: believe he came up and pitched against us. 1693 01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,280 Speaker 3: He's been up since then. He's had major control problems 1694 01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,840 Speaker 3: in Major league's and minor leagues. Over his last two 1695 01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,160 Speaker 3: months in Triple A, he's really iron those out. Is 1696 01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,280 Speaker 3: walking less than three bats for nine innings while straking 1697 01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,520 Speaker 3: out more than ten. He's he's probably a good pitcher. 1698 01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:53,840 Speaker 2: Braves have also parted way with Robinson Cano, so he 1699 01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:55,760 Speaker 2: will no longer be on the roster, but they did 1700 01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,280 Speaker 2: just call up Von Grissom, a young twenty one year 1701 01:00:58,280 --> 01:00:59,640 Speaker 2: old who If you guys listened to the episode with 1702 01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:02,040 Speaker 2: Matt before we knew he was getting called up, he 1703 01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:04,160 Speaker 2: actually like highlighted him as one of the players to 1704 01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:06,640 Speaker 2: watch in the minor leagues. Very good player, small sample, 1705 01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:08,320 Speaker 2: but he's hitting the ball really well. Two home runs 1706 01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,200 Speaker 2: as far and like four games he's two home runs. 1707 01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:10,960 Speaker 4: Yep. Oh my god. 1708 01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:12,600 Speaker 2: He's a really good baseball player from Gris and the 1709 01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:14,640 Speaker 2: Braves just do this. They have good player development. That 1710 01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,120 Speaker 2: being said, we know that we can beat this Braves team, 1711 01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:18,120 Speaker 2: especially if we pitch like we have. 1712 01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:20,040 Speaker 3: Just talk about Brice Eulthern Coroll Rock and see either 1713 01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:20,439 Speaker 3: of the series. 1714 01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:24,840 Speaker 2: Who we're gonna say Monday Night, Carrascover Streyther, mister mister 1715 01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:28,439 Speaker 2: call him Leoperron or something just to luck, mister luck. 1716 01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:30,920 Speaker 2: He's tiny too. He is small. One short guy to another. 1717 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,600 Speaker 2: We're short kings ourselves, so we can call him short. 1718 01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:37,760 Speaker 3: Absolutely so st If Streyther, you know, guess all pissy 1719 01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:38,439 Speaker 3: and money again. 1720 01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:40,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna Sart calling a Leperron. That's fine. I'm cool 1721 01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:40,720 Speaker 2: with that. 1722 01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:46,040 Speaker 3: Tuesday Night Tylan Walker versus Charlie Morton Wednesday Evening, Max 1723 01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:49,760 Speaker 3: Scherzervus Jacob Drizzi and Thursday evening. I think this game 1724 01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:52,080 Speaker 3: is in ESPN plus du Grond versus Kyle Wright. 1725 01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:53,800 Speaker 2: I've never felt better about my home run bet in 1726 01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,880 Speaker 2: my life. I've never felt more confident. You're thrown out. 1727 01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,120 Speaker 2: Oozzy on there. I'm ready. I'm ready for this. I'm 1728 01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:01,880 Speaker 2: ready for this brave series. Mets have a real it's 1729 01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:05,640 Speaker 2: a tough week. Yeah, real chance though to just stomp, 1730 01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:08,200 Speaker 2: twist whatever it is, hurt the brains. 1731 01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:10,439 Speaker 3: After this week we have Ford the Braves and Ford 1732 01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,600 Speaker 3: the Phillies, eight games and seven days against our two. 1733 01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:13,680 Speaker 4: I don't know. 1734 01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:15,360 Speaker 2: I don't know if I want to look ahead yet though. No. 1735 01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,440 Speaker 3: All I'm gonna say is that this we don't after 1736 01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:19,000 Speaker 3: this series. We don't play the Braves again until the 1737 01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:21,160 Speaker 3: second last week series of the year, all the way 1738 01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:23,240 Speaker 3: in October, which just think about that for a second. 1739 01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,200 Speaker 3: And this, the next weekend in Philadelphia is the end 1740 01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:26,920 Speaker 3: of our games. 1741 01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,520 Speaker 2: With the Phillies. Like cold in October, Yes it will 1742 01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:31,840 Speaker 2: be cold, but maybe not first week October. Some nice 1743 01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:33,280 Speaker 2: I just have a funny the best weather of the year. 1744 01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:34,480 Speaker 2: I have a funny thing to throw, and I've been 1745 01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:36,760 Speaker 2: watching some Premier League soccer this weekend. It was eighty 1746 01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:40,280 Speaker 2: five degrees in Manchester, and the announcer said, quote unquote, 1747 01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:42,040 Speaker 2: it was boiling, boiling hot. 1748 01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:43,000 Speaker 3: That's literally true. 1749 01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:44,640 Speaker 2: It's been like eighty five degrees here in New York 1750 01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:46,520 Speaker 2: and I put on jeans yesterday. It was it's been 1751 01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:47,160 Speaker 2: beautiful weather. 1752 01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:48,200 Speaker 3: It broke it, it broke this week. 1753 01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:50,440 Speaker 2: It was thank god. Yeah, I mean it's been beautiful though. 1754 01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:52,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's four days amazing. 1755 01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:55,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, but uh, England thinks eighty five is boiling six. 1756 01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:58,320 Speaker 2: One big series against the Braves. Just twist the knife, 1757 01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:01,400 Speaker 2: twist the knife. Let's win it. Let's beats, let's let's 1758 01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:03,320 Speaker 2: get it even biggerly than what we already at. There's 1759 01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,000 Speaker 2: no reason we should, you said, Brigs also having losses 1760 01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:06,360 Speaker 2: the lust. 1761 01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:08,040 Speaker 5: They're a good team, they're good. 1762 01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,520 Speaker 2: We can beat them bell. That's We're gonna wrap it 1763 01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:11,920 Speaker 2: up here though, right, nothing else to say. 1764 01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:13,480 Speaker 4: We're good guys. 1765 01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:15,400 Speaker 2: Thank you for listening, Thank you for watching. Make sure 1766 01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,240 Speaker 2: you follow us on our social media at that stuff 1767 01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,640 Speaker 2: on TikTok, Twitter, Instagram. 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Linguistic, Yeah, get better with our linguistics. 1776 01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,360 Speaker 2: Mark Luino here you can follow me at your raphneck 1777 01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:49,480 Speaker 2: mark with a cee and you know what, John, go 1778 01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:50,960 Speaker 2: ahead and plug your Twitter too if you want to. 1779 01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:53,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, give it to her at JMB nine one nine one. 1780 01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:55,040 Speaker 4: There you go. Keep chopping. 1781 01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, gotta give John one shout out every once in 1782 01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,920 Speaker 2: a while. Here I'm chopping. Oh my god, keep chopping. 1783 01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:01,520 Speaker 2: Thank you guys for listening. We're gonna end it here. 1784 01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:05,040 Speaker 3: See you see you guys. Next time, Get up, Get 1785 01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:06,200 Speaker 3: get up, Get up. 1786 01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:18,280 Speaker 5: M m hm