WEBVTT - Understanding and Detecting Radiation

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tech Stuff, a production of I Heart Radios

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<v Speaker 1>How Stuff Works. Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with

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<v Speaker 1>iHeart Radio and a love of all things tech, and

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<v Speaker 1>inspired by my last episode about smoke detectors, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I would do an episode about radiation and radiation detectors.

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<v Speaker 1>And I want to define terms like radiation and radioactivity,

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about the different types of radiation there are,

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<v Speaker 1>and to differentiate between ionizing and non ionizing radiation and

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<v Speaker 1>chat about the technology around it. So first, what is radiation. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a fairly broad term with lots of different meanings

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<v Speaker 1>as it turns out, but I think that's part of

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<v Speaker 1>why there's frequently a lot of confusion around the concept

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<v Speaker 1>of radiation. But there are a couple of definitions that

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<v Speaker 1>for our purpose as we want to focus on, and

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<v Speaker 1>really the one that we're truly interested in is the

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<v Speaker 1>process of admitting radiant energy in the form of waves

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<v Speaker 1>or particles as a definition I took from the Miriam

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<v Speaker 1>Webster Dictionary. By the way, so radiation can involve electromagnetic

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<v Speaker 1>waves or it might involve sub atomic particles. Uh, some

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<v Speaker 1>radiation has the potential to be harmful, even deadly in

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<v Speaker 1>sufficient intensities and length of exposure. Some radiation is relatively safe,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly under specific controls. So let's start with some early

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<v Speaker 1>discoveries of electro magnetic radiation, as those predate our understanding

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<v Speaker 1>of particle based radiation. So our story begins in eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>hundred with an early scientist named William Herschel. And Willie

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<v Speaker 1>was interested in learning more about the spectrum of light,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was already understood that if you were to

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<v Speaker 1>pass light through a prism, you could separate light into

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<v Speaker 1>different colors. You know, the good old roy g BIV spectrum,

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<v Speaker 1>which stands for red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, and violet.

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<v Speaker 1>The spectrum will always be in that order. Anytime you

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<v Speaker 1>pass light through a prism, it's going to break into

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<v Speaker 1>those bands in that order, and those bands actually represent

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<v Speaker 1>bands of frequencies of light waves. Herschel was wondering if

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<v Speaker 1>the different colors of light produced different amounts of heat,

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<v Speaker 1>So is one type of light warmer than another, So

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<v Speaker 1>he set up a system in which he positioned thermometers

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<v Speaker 1>at each color displayed from light passing through a prism.

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<v Speaker 1>So he sets up a prism in his window, lights

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<v Speaker 1>coming through it, and it's hitting a table, and it

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<v Speaker 1>divides up into different bands of color. He sets the

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<v Speaker 1>thermometers in each band of color, and he happened to

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<v Speaker 1>have an extra thermometer just beyond the red end of

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<v Speaker 1>the spectrum, so it's actually in the dark. It was

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<v Speaker 1>beyond the range of the visible light. He had no

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<v Speaker 1>way of knowing it, but he had, by happy coincidence,

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<v Speaker 1>placed a thermometer right where the infrared band was. And

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<v Speaker 1>we can't see infrared light, but that light does transmit heat.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, Herschel was surprised to see that it was

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<v Speaker 1>that thermometer, the one that was in the darkness, just

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<v Speaker 1>beyond the red range, that actually registered the highest temperature

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<v Speaker 1>out of all the thermometers he had set out. And

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<v Speaker 1>we often talked about heat radiating outward from a source.

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<v Speaker 1>In eighteen o one, another big thinker named Johann Wilhelm

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<v Speaker 1>Ritter built upon Herschel's experiment. He decided to see if

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps there was anything beyond the other end of the spectrum,

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<v Speaker 1>a k a. The violet end. In fact, he really

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<v Speaker 1>discovered it sort of by accident. Ritter experimented by using

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<v Speaker 1>a substance called silver chloride, and this is a chemical

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<v Speaker 1>that turns black if it's exposed to sunlight. Ritter built

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<v Speaker 1>on the understanding that blue light would produce a greater

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<v Speaker 1>reaction in silver chloride than red light, so he did

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<v Speaker 1>a variation on Herschel's experiment. He again used a prism

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<v Speaker 1>to break the light into bands of color, and then

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<v Speaker 1>within each band of color he placed a vile a

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<v Speaker 1>silver chloride to see if the reactions were different across

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<v Speaker 1>the spectrum of light. He could see that, indeed, the

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<v Speaker 1>reaction did vary across the spectrum. The closer you got

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<v Speaker 1>to the violet side of the spectrum, the more intense

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<v Speaker 1>the reaction was, and it was most evident just beyond

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<v Speaker 1>the violet side, in an area where there was no

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<v Speaker 1>visible light at all. So clearly there was something going

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<v Speaker 1>on on that end of the spectrum. So on the

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<v Speaker 1>red end you were getting some sort of heat which

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<v Speaker 1>we now know is infrared, and on the violet end

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<v Speaker 1>there's something else that was really reacting to silver chloride.

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<v Speaker 1>So Ritter would call this chemical raise, which to this

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<v Speaker 1>very day we don't do anymore. Now today we call

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<v Speaker 1>it ultraviolet light. Herschel and Ritter had made the first

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<v Speaker 1>steps to increase our understanding of the electromagnetic spectrum, of

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<v Speaker 1>which visible light is just one tiny part, and as

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<v Speaker 1>we would build on that understanding, we'd also gain more

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<v Speaker 1>information about what effects these types of radiation can have

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<v Speaker 1>on us. Some of them have very little effect on us,

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<v Speaker 1>some of them can have a drastic effect on us.

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<v Speaker 1>And it would take a lot more time, but we

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<v Speaker 1>would gradually begin to understand that if you look at

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<v Speaker 1>the spectrum, it includes everything from radio waves on one

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<v Speaker 1>extreme end of it to gamma raise on the other

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<v Speaker 1>end of it, and these waves vary in wavelength, frequency,

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<v Speaker 1>and energy. So on one extreme end you've got those

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<v Speaker 1>radio waves. These can have really long wavelengths, measuring hens

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<v Speaker 1>of miles, like sixty two miles or a hundred kilometers

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<v Speaker 1>for wavelengths of certain radio frequencies. So if you had

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<v Speaker 1>a perfectly steady radio wave, like just imagine, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>perfect signal you. If you were to map it out,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be a beautiful sign wave. If you measured

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<v Speaker 1>from the peak at one point to the next peak,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the wavelength. That's what would have been a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>kilometers in distance an enormous wave. The frequency of a

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<v Speaker 1>wave refers to how frequently a specific point on a wavelength,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like that peak, how frequently you could see

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<v Speaker 1>that point on each wave pass a given reference point

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<v Speaker 1>within a second. So with the longest radio waves at

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<v Speaker 1>the lowest frequencies, you're talking about a frequency of around

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<v Speaker 1>three thousand cycles per second, meaning that in one seconds time,

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<v Speaker 1>three thousand peaks past that given point of reference. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>one thing to keep in mind is that this is

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<v Speaker 1>electromagnetic radiation. An electromagnetic radiation all travels at the same speed,

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<v Speaker 1>that being the speed of light. Now, we do have

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<v Speaker 1>to remember the speed of light isn't a constant across

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<v Speaker 1>all media. It's a constant within each media. So we

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<v Speaker 1>we usually when we're talking about the speed of light,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about within the vacuum of space. But if

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<v Speaker 1>light is traveling through an atmosphere or through water or something,

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<v Speaker 1>it actually does travel at a different speed than that

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<v Speaker 1>because it it's all dependent upon the medium. Still, electromagnetic

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<v Speaker 1>radiation travels at that speed. So a wavelength of uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, one wavelength of of a radio wave is

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<v Speaker 1>traveling at the speed of light, as is one wavelength

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<v Speaker 1>of gamma radiation. However, because the radio waves are so

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<v Speaker 1>long and the gamma rays are so short in wavelength,

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<v Speaker 1>the frequency has to be different, right. The frequency of

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<v Speaker 1>the radio waves has to be lower than the frequency

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<v Speaker 1>of gamma rays because you get way more gamma rays

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<v Speaker 1>passing within a frame of a second, even though they're

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<v Speaker 1>both traveling at the same speed. All right, That gets confusing, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So I like to explain this with an analogy. Imagine

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<v Speaker 1>you've got two identical straight roads, one lane wide, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're right next to each other. Down one road, you

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<v Speaker 1>have a series of buses, and each bus super long,

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<v Speaker 1>measures eighteen meters in length, traveling down the road at

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<v Speaker 1>fifty KOs per hour, and there's one meter of space

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<v Speaker 1>in between each bus. So bus number one eighteen meters

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<v Speaker 1>long than you have a meter, and a bus number

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<v Speaker 1>two is eighteen meters long than you have a meter.

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<v Speaker 1>That's dangerous, but whatever, they're traveling down at fifty an hour,

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<v Speaker 1>perfectly in sync with each other. On the other road,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have a series of zippy little smart cars

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<v Speaker 1>and each smart car measures just three meters in length.

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<v Speaker 1>They're also going down the road at fifty kilometers per

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<v Speaker 1>hour with a meter of space in between each pair

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<v Speaker 1>of cars. Now, individual vehicles are all traveling at the

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<v Speaker 1>same speed, they're all traveling at fifty kilometers per hour.

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<v Speaker 1>But the smart cars aren't as long as the buses.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you were to have a accounter, there's someone

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<v Speaker 1>standing by the bus lane and there's someone standing by

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<v Speaker 1>the smart car lane, and they're holding a little counter

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<v Speaker 1>in their hands. The person next to the smart cars

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<v Speaker 1>is going to count way more smart cars in the

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<v Speaker 1>same amount of time as the person counting the buses.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not because smart cars are traveling faster. They're not.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just smaller, so more of them can go by

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<v Speaker 1>within that given amount of time. The same thing is

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<v Speaker 1>true with wavelengths of the electromagnetic spectrum red light, blue light,

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<v Speaker 1>X rays, radio waves. They're all traveling at the same speed.

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<v Speaker 1>They just have different wavelengths, so they have to have

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<v Speaker 1>different frequencies. Now, as I said earlier, in those early

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<v Speaker 1>days in the nineteenth century, we didn't have this level

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<v Speaker 1>of understanding. We weren't aware of different wavelengths and frequencies,

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<v Speaker 1>and we didn't know that longer wavelengths and lower frequencies

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<v Speaker 1>of electromagnetic radiation carry less energy, whereas high frequencies and

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<v Speaker 1>very small wavelengths of electromagnetic radiation can pack way more energy.

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<v Speaker 1>If you were to look at the experiments of Herschel

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<v Speaker 1>and Ritter, you might actually think that that's not the case,

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<v Speaker 1>because the invisible light off the red end of the

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<v Speaker 1>spectrum was carrying a lot of heat. It was heating

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<v Speaker 1>up a thermometer more than the others, so maybe it

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<v Speaker 1>carries more energy. And whereas the violet side you just

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<v Speaker 1>saw silver chloride change color. So it would take a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more experimentation to get a deeper understanding of the

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<v Speaker 1>actual nature of electromagnetic radiation. Now to go into the

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<v Speaker 1>full history of how that understanding would unfold is the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff of college lecture series, So I'll just give very

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<v Speaker 1>brief summaries to get us kind of closer to our objective.

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<v Speaker 1>In the nineteenth century you had numerous scientists and inventors

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<v Speaker 1>who were observing all sorts of interesting stuff that would

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<v Speaker 1>later become integrated into our knowledge of electromagnetism. So Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Faraday did a great deal of work exploring the relationship

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<v Speaker 1>between electric and magnetic fields. For example, his work would

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<v Speaker 1>inspire a Scottish physicist named James Clerk Maxwell to look

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<v Speaker 1>into the matter further, and Maxwell made predictions about electromagnetic

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<v Speaker 1>radiation based on those early experiments and observation, saying, well,

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<v Speaker 1>based on what we know, I expect that will eventually

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<v Speaker 1>find something that fits this mathematical uh example of what

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<v Speaker 1>should be there, and his predictions proved to be accurate,

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<v Speaker 1>and they in turn would serve as an important foundation

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<v Speaker 1>for Albert Einstein's special theory of relativity, as the one

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<v Speaker 1>that gives us the famous equation equals mc squared, which

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<v Speaker 1>tells us that energy and mass are related at an

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<v Speaker 1>intrinsic level. And Maxwell's observations about electromagnetic radiation would lead

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<v Speaker 1>to a theory about heat radiation that in turn would

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<v Speaker 1>be overturned by Max Planck, whose formulation of quantum hypothesis

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<v Speaker 1>to describe how heat radiates would become the predominant one.

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<v Speaker 1>But all of that is a little outside of our scope.

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<v Speaker 1>So the point I wanted to make is that the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteenth century was a boom time for scientific observations and discoveries,

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<v Speaker 1>and the things we would learn would serve us well

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<v Speaker 1>as we moved into the next phase of understanding of radiation.

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<v Speaker 1>And what it's all about. So the other big discoveries

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<v Speaker 1>that relate to this episode came about at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the nineteenth century, so we get to look at

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<v Speaker 1>both ends of the eighteen hundreds. In eight Vilhelm runjeon

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<v Speaker 1>which I mentioned him in the last episode, he was

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<v Speaker 1>experimenting with a cathode ray tube, and I talked about

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<v Speaker 1>that again in the Smoke Detective episode. Essentially, these are

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<v Speaker 1>devices that produce streams of electrons by heating up a

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<v Speaker 1>filament inside a glass vacuum tube, kind of similar to

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<v Speaker 1>a light bulb. Runjen found that as he applied an

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<v Speaker 1>electric voltage to the cathode ray tube a light detection

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<v Speaker 1>screen in his lab that was made out of barium

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<v Speaker 1>platina cyanide fluorest, it actually lit up. It detected light

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<v Speaker 1>even though there was no visible light there. So he

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<v Speaker 1>began to experiment with this phenomenon, this invisible light that

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<v Speaker 1>was causing this this detector to light up, and that

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<v Speaker 1>included putting objects between the cathode ray tube and the screen,

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<v Speaker 1>and he saw that whatever was coming out of the

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<v Speaker 1>tube seemed to be penetrating through objects and it was

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<v Speaker 1>still hitting the screen on the other side. He found

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<v Speaker 1>that if he put photographic film, the energy would interact

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<v Speaker 1>with the photographic film, and if you put something in

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<v Speaker 1>between the film and the cathode ray tube, he could

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<v Speaker 1>get a really interesting image of it. Uh, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>you could see through certain stuff pretty clearly. So, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>his hand, he put his hand in front of it

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<v Speaker 1>and he took a photo. Then the picture would show

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<v Speaker 1>the skeleton in hand. It would it would show through

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<v Speaker 1>the soft tissues of his hand, and he thought, well,

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<v Speaker 1>this is interesting. He discovered a new type of radiation

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<v Speaker 1>and he called it the X ray because what the

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<v Speaker 1>heck was going to call it? It was an unknown quantity,

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<v Speaker 1>and in mathematics we often refer to unknown quantities as X,

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<v Speaker 1>like solve for X. So it was meant to be

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<v Speaker 1>a placeholder. X rays just it turned into the permanent

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<v Speaker 1>name for the stuff. Now. Initially, no one was aware

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<v Speaker 1>that X ray radiation was potentially dangerous with its shorter

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<v Speaker 1>wavelength and higher frequency and energy than visible light. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>no one was even sure that was another form of light.

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<v Speaker 1>They thought it might be, but they weren't certain, and

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<v Speaker 1>that wouldn't be proven until nineteen twelve. But people began

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<v Speaker 1>to understand that there was some potential danger the X

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<v Speaker 1>rays fairly early on. In eighteen nineties six, the year

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<v Speaker 1>after Runton's UH discovery, the journal Nature published an article

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<v Speaker 1>with the title The Harmful Effects of X rays. And

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<v Speaker 1>in that article there was a story about a guy

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<v Speaker 1>who had worked as an X ray demonstrator in London,

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<v Speaker 1>and he described the effects of X ray exposure that

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<v Speaker 1>he experienced, particularly on his hands, after working for a

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<v Speaker 1>full summer doing demonstrations with X ray machines for several

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<v Speaker 1>hours a day, I'm going to quote an excerpt. In

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<v Speaker 1>the first two or three weeks, I felt no inconvenience,

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<v Speaker 1>but after a while appeared on the fingers of my

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<v Speaker 1>right hand many dark spots which pierced under the skin,

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<v Speaker 1>and gradually they became very painful. The rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>skin was red and strongly inflamed. My hand was so

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<v Speaker 1>bad that I was constantly forced to bathe it in

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<v Speaker 1>very cold water. An ointment momentarily on the pain. But

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<v Speaker 1>the epidermist had dried up, had become hard and yellow

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<v Speaker 1>like parchment, and completely insensible, so I was not surprised

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<v Speaker 1>when my hand began to peel. From that point, the

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<v Speaker 1>guy goes on to describe how things got even worse,

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<v Speaker 1>like he began to lose fingernails and stuff. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna leave out the rest of the grizzly details. The

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<v Speaker 1>point is people are starting to notice that the longer

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<v Speaker 1>someone was exposed to X rays, the more severe the

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<v Speaker 1>consequences seemed to be. Short exposures did not appear to

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<v Speaker 1>be as serious, but this was something that people were

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<v Speaker 1>starting to get a little concerned about that would grow

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<v Speaker 1>in the years to come. But first, let's take a

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<v Speaker 1>quick break before we jump into that discussion. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>before we took our break, I was talking about how

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<v Speaker 1>people were beginning to understand that X rays could be dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>That didn't stop early irresponsible implementations of X ray machines. However,

0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:10.399
<v Speaker 1>people thought of these as curiosities. They were things to

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<v Speaker 1>be celebrated and experienced. Thomas Edison thought everyone would have

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<v Speaker 1>one in their own home and thought perhaps they should

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<v Speaker 1>have them, because again, they didn't understand the dangers yet.

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<v Speaker 1>People would even have X ray parties in which guests

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<v Speaker 1>would take X ray photos of themselves, you know, of

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<v Speaker 1>their foot, or their hand, or even their face, and

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<v Speaker 1>they would get to keep the photographs at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the party. Shoe stores installed X ray fluoroscopes to

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<v Speaker 1>get a look at a person's foot, And while a

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<v Speaker 1>person visiting the store wouldn't likely walk away with a

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<v Speaker 1>lethal dose of radiation, the folks who were working at

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<v Speaker 1>the store were exposed to X rays much more frequently

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<v Speaker 1>and for longer durations, and many of them would suffer

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<v Speaker 1>the consequences. But all of those awful discoveries would take

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<v Speaker 1>some times, so people didn't immediately notice the issues. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get back to the discovery of radioactivity by talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the other kind of radiation, not the electro magnetic type.

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<v Speaker 1>So in eighteen ninety six, which was that same year

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<v Speaker 1>that the Nature article about the dangers of X rays

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<v Speaker 1>came out, there was a physicist named al Marie Beccarel

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<v Speaker 1>who was wondering if some materials he was working with

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<v Speaker 1>might produce the same sort of energy that Rundgen's X

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<v Speaker 1>rays seemed to create. One of those materials that Beckerel

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<v Speaker 1>was working with was a crystal made up of uranium salts. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the various materials Beccarel had interest in all shared a

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<v Speaker 1>common trait. They were all phosphorescent, so they could all glow,

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<v Speaker 1>and he wondered if they were giving off the same

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<v Speaker 1>sort of invisible light stuff that run Gen was observing

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<v Speaker 1>with X rays. So Beckarel set up an experiment. He

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<v Speaker 1>put down a photographic plate. He totally covered it so

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<v Speaker 1>that one of it would be exposed to light because

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<v Speaker 1>that would activate the photoreactive chemicals on the plate. And

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<v Speaker 1>on top of the covering he put a selection of

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<v Speaker 1>his phosphorescent crystals to see if any of them would

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<v Speaker 1>interact with the photo reactive chemicals. And he exposed the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing to the sun, you know, thinking that the

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<v Speaker 1>sun would charge these various crystals. And at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the experiment he discovered that out of all the

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<v Speaker 1>different things he was testing, only one seemed to have

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<v Speaker 1>any effect at all, and that was the rock crystal

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<v Speaker 1>that was actually made up of uranium salt, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was the only one that seemed to have fogged up

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<v Speaker 1>the the photoplate. So he thought, well, I'll do a

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<v Speaker 1>longer test. I'll leave it out in the sun longer,

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<v Speaker 1>see if I get a bigger, more clear result. But

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<v Speaker 1>the weather at that point wasn't cooperating. It had gotten cloudy,

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<v Speaker 1>so he couldn't put it out in the sun. So

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<v Speaker 1>he takes his photographic plates and his uranium salts and

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<v Speaker 1>he stores them away and waits for the weather to

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<v Speaker 1>get better. So they were actually stored next to each

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<v Speaker 1>other in a dark cabinet. Several days later, as the

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<v Speaker 1>weather was starting to finally clear out, he was getting

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<v Speaker 1>ready to conduct his experiment, but he decided, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>before I do this, I better make sure these photographic

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<v Speaker 1>plates are still good, because the chemicals can actually expire,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'd be wasting my time if they aren't working anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>So he picks one and develops it, and it happened

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<v Speaker 1>to be one that was close to the iranium salts.

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<v Speaker 1>Rock He was surprised to discover that the bits of

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<v Speaker 1>the photographic plate that had been close to those uranium

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<v Speaker 1>salts had images on them, even though the salts had

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<v Speaker 1>not been exposed to sunlight. They've been stored in a

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<v Speaker 1>dark cupboard, and he concluded that the uranium salts themselves

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<v Speaker 1>were giving off some sort of emission that was being

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<v Speaker 1>captured on this photographic plate. Henri Becarel had a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of enterprising and brilliant assistants. One was Pierre Curie and

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<v Speaker 1>the other was Marie Sklodowska, who would marry Pierre and

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<v Speaker 1>become Marie Curie. She uh really was fascinated by radioactivity,

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<v Speaker 1>and together with her husband, they began to study the

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<v Speaker 1>ranium salts as well as looking for other similar materials

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<v Speaker 1>that seemed to display this radioactive phenomena. They tested some

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<v Speaker 1>mining operation waste. It's called a pitch blend. The mining

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<v Speaker 1>operations were happy to get rid of it because it

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<v Speaker 1>was just run off from their operations, and they found

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<v Speaker 1>that it could contained traces of radioactive material, and eventually

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<v Speaker 1>they were able to separate a small amount of it

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<v Speaker 1>from the rest of the pitch blend, and it would

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<v Speaker 1>later be called radium. It was far more radioactive than

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<v Speaker 1>the uranium salts they had already worked with. The Curies

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<v Speaker 1>and Beckrel would receive the Nobel Prize in Physics for

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<v Speaker 1>their discoveries. Runen also received one earlier for his discovery

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<v Speaker 1>of X rays, and then Pierre Curie would later tragically

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<v Speaker 1>die in a traffic accident. Marie would go on to

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<v Speaker 1>discover another radioact development, this one called polonium, and she

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<v Speaker 1>would receive a second Nobel Prize, though that second one

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<v Speaker 1>was in chemistry. She's one of only a few people

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<v Speaker 1>who have ever received more than one Nobel Prize. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>one thing Beckerel did with his own research was proved

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<v Speaker 1>that the energy coming out of this uranium salt was

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<v Speaker 1>not the same thing as X rays, and he did

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<v Speaker 1>this by testing the uranium salts against X rays with

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<v Speaker 1>a device that could generate a magnetic field. So X

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<v Speaker 1>rays would pass through the magnetic field unimpeded. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>because X ray radiation has no electric charge, and thus

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<v Speaker 1>it has no magnetic field of its own, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>not affected by magnetic field. It just passes through. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that there's nothing else there but the radiation coming from

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<v Speaker 1>the uranium salts bent upon encountering the magnetic field, and

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<v Speaker 1>that told Beckarel that whatever was coming out of the

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<v Speaker 1>uranium salts had an electric charge to it, because it

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<v Speaker 1>had to have an electric charge in or to have

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<v Speaker 1>its own magnetic field and thus be either attracted or

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<v Speaker 1>repelled by the magnetic field and his testing vice. So

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<v Speaker 1>Beckerel tested numerous types of radioactive substances using this approach

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<v Speaker 1>and observed three basic results. Either radiation would bend one

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<v Speaker 1>way using certain radioactive materials, and he would conclude, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a positive radiation material because it is being attracted

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<v Speaker 1>to the negative side of the magnetic field and repelled

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<v Speaker 1>by the positive side, or it would bend the other way,

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<v Speaker 1>so he would have the opposite conclusion. Okay, this is

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<v Speaker 1>negative radiation because it's being attracted to the positive side

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<v Speaker 1>and repelled by the negative side, or it passed straight

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<v Speaker 1>through like X rays, and it would have no electrical

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<v Speaker 1>charge at all, so it would be neutral. So you

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<v Speaker 1>had positive, negative, and electrically neutral radiation. In their work,

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<v Speaker 1>the Curies and Beckarel noted that prolonged exposure to some

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<v Speaker 1>of these radioactive materials would result in injuries and ailments,

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<v Speaker 1>like if you handled some of the more radioactive stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like radium for any length of time, you could actually

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<v Speaker 1>get burns on your skin, and you could suffer radiation sickness,

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<v Speaker 1>which includes symptoms like nausea, but the extent of the

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<v Speaker 1>damage was unknown for years. Marie cry died in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>thirty four of a plastic anemia, which was probably a

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<v Speaker 1>consequence of her exposure to radioactive material over the years.

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<v Speaker 1>It certainly would have increased the odds of her developing that,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's something that is is good to just mention

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<v Speaker 1>in general is that when we think of radiation, we

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<v Speaker 1>often think of the radiation sickness, the sort of acute

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<v Speaker 1>symptoms you can have if you have a sudden exposure

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<v Speaker 1>to an intense amount of radiation. But in many ways,

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<v Speaker 1>the consequences of exposure to radiation are really more about

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<v Speaker 1>the increased risk of developing UH conditions like cancer. UH.

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<v Speaker 1>And it doesn't necessarily mean that if you do develop cancer,

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<v Speaker 1>that it was a direct result of that exposure to radiation,

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<v Speaker 1>but rather or that the exposure to radiation increased the

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<v Speaker 1>odds that you would develop cancer. It's a complicated thing

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<v Speaker 1>to look at because without knowing all the variables, you

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<v Speaker 1>cannot say conclusively that X caused why, but you can't

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<v Speaker 1>say that X made Y way more likely. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>we think with Currie, that she probably developed a plastic

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<v Speaker 1>anemia as a consequence of this exposure to stuff like

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<v Speaker 1>radium over the years. Many of her belongings and even

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<v Speaker 1>a cookbook she used, are actually stored in shielded containers

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<v Speaker 1>to this day because they're still radioactive dangerously. So the

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<v Speaker 1>lack of understanding about the consequences of radiation exposure would

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<v Speaker 1>have many more nasty consequences, just as it had with

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<v Speaker 1>the X ray fad. For example, because radium is phosphorescent,

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<v Speaker 1>it was seen as a useful material for stuff like

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<v Speaker 1>the hands of watches, like analog watches. He would paint

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<v Speaker 1>an analog watches minute and our hands with radium, and

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<v Speaker 1>that would make it glow in the dark and made

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<v Speaker 1>it really easy to read the time, even if you

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<v Speaker 1>were in low lighting. While the amount of radium on

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<v Speaker 1>these watches was very very small and not likely to

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<v Speaker 1>harm somebody who was wearing the watch, the employees responsible

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<v Speaker 1>for painting the watch hands received way more radiation exposure. Colloquially,

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<v Speaker 1>they were called radium girls, and the management positions at

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<v Speaker 1>these facilities frequently had significant protection from radiation, but the

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<v Speaker 1>same could not be said for the women on the

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<v Speaker 1>front lines, the women actually doing the work painting the

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<v Speaker 1>radium onto these watch hands. It also wasn't uncommon for

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<v Speaker 1>a worker to lick the end of her brush to

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<v Speaker 1>shape it so that she could more easily paint the

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<v Speaker 1>watch hand. So that meant these workers were occasionally depositing

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<v Speaker 1>little amounts of radium directly on their tongues. They were

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<v Speaker 1>ingesting radium. Radium when ingested, will deposit itself in bone,

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<v Speaker 1>much like calcium would, so several of the workers would

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately grow ill with radiation sickness. A group of five

0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:19.760
<v Speaker 1>of them later brought a lawsuit against their company. That

0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:24.680
<v Speaker 1>company was the United States Radium Company. They charged them

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<v Speaker 1>with being irresponsible in areas of health and safety, and

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<v Speaker 1>in turn that prompted a detailed study into what the

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<v Speaker 1>long term effects of radium exposure are and it's awful

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<v Speaker 1>that our knowledge came at such a steep price. At

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, the results of that study would lead

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<v Speaker 1>to massive changes in health and safety regulations for the

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<v Speaker 1>benefit of workers in the United States. From these discoveries,

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<v Speaker 1>physicists began to learn more about the nature of radioactive

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<v Speaker 1>material in general. They observed that there were different kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of radiation beyond just calling it positive, negative, or electrically neutral.

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<v Speaker 1>Some radiation seem to have more penetrative abilities. They could

0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:13.000
<v Speaker 1>penetrate further into solid matter than other types of radiation.

0:28:13.320 --> 0:28:16.000
<v Speaker 1>So you might have one type of radiation that isn't

0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:19.359
<v Speaker 1>able to penetrate solid matter effectively, and another one seems

0:28:19.359 --> 0:28:22.320
<v Speaker 1>to go right through stuff as if there's no problem.

0:28:22.400 --> 0:28:26.800
<v Speaker 1>A physicist named Ernest Rutherford conducted numerous experiments with radioactive

0:28:26.840 --> 0:28:29.600
<v Speaker 1>material and at this point we were beginning to understand

0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:33.600
<v Speaker 1>that radioactivity was a process in which certain materials undergo

0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:38.280
<v Speaker 1>a process called decay, and that is the form that

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:43.320
<v Speaker 1>they are in. The radioactive form is inherently unstable. You

0:28:43.360 --> 0:28:44.800
<v Speaker 1>can if you want to think of it in terms

0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:48.320
<v Speaker 1>of want, I mean putting motivation is ridiculous because we're

0:28:48.320 --> 0:28:52.000
<v Speaker 1>talking about atomic particles here. But it's a form of

0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:55.200
<v Speaker 1>an atom that does not want to be that form.

0:28:55.320 --> 0:29:00.280
<v Speaker 1>It's unstable. So these materials will spontaneously but not necessary early,

0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:04.880
<v Speaker 1>quickly break apart and give off energy and subatomic particles

0:29:04.920 --> 0:29:09.240
<v Speaker 1>as they decay to a more stable form. Rutherford classified

0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:13.360
<v Speaker 1>three types of radiation. He said this was all based

0:29:13.360 --> 0:29:16.120
<v Speaker 1>off the penetrative properties of radiation, how far they could

0:29:16.120 --> 0:29:21.640
<v Speaker 1>penetrate into matter. The three types he classified were alpha radiation,

0:29:21.880 --> 0:29:26.560
<v Speaker 1>beta radiation, and gamma radiation. Alpha particles had the least

0:29:26.560 --> 0:29:30.000
<v Speaker 1>amount of ability to penetrate matter, and gamma rays were

0:29:30.040 --> 0:29:34.880
<v Speaker 1>the opposite. They could very easily penetrate matter. Upon further study,

0:29:35.200 --> 0:29:40.760
<v Speaker 1>scientists discovered that an alpha particle is relatively massive on

0:29:40.800 --> 0:29:43.640
<v Speaker 1>the atomic scale of things. It actually consists of an

0:29:43.640 --> 0:29:47.960
<v Speaker 1>ejected helium nucleus. A helium nucleus is two protons and

0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:51.240
<v Speaker 1>two neutrons. This is the type of radiation given off

0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:53.880
<v Speaker 1>by a mera sirium to forty one. That's the radioactive

0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:56.680
<v Speaker 1>material that's inside smoke detectors that I talked about in

0:29:56.680 --> 0:30:00.440
<v Speaker 1>the last episode. The ionization chambers have this type of

0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:03.720
<v Speaker 1>radioactive material in them, so you probably have some of

0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:07.080
<v Speaker 1>the stuff in your house right now. Alpha particles are

0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 1>not able to penetrate matter very well, and they're big

0:30:11.560 --> 0:30:14.800
<v Speaker 1>enough and slow enough that they can't really get through skin,

0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:17.719
<v Speaker 1>at least not most of the time, so they're not

0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:21.840
<v Speaker 1>likely to have it affects you. Uh. They can't even

0:30:21.880 --> 0:30:24.280
<v Speaker 1>go through very much air. After a couple of inches,

0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:27.840
<v Speaker 1>they've lost the energy to move forward. Breathing in alpha

0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:30.440
<v Speaker 1>particles would be a real risk, and you wouldn't want

0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:32.920
<v Speaker 1>to swallow any of it either, so you don't want

0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:35.840
<v Speaker 1>to come into contact with the stuff, But having it

0:30:36.120 --> 0:30:38.840
<v Speaker 1>enclosed in a smoke detector in its own little chamber

0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:43.080
<v Speaker 1>in the smoke detector is more than enough protection that

0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:47.920
<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't receive any sort of significant radiation exposure from

0:30:48.080 --> 0:30:51.240
<v Speaker 1>the ameer sirium inside a smoke detector. You would receive

0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 1>way more if you just went outside for a few hours.

0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:58.600
<v Speaker 1>So it's not that big. It's it's it's like background

0:30:58.680 --> 0:31:04.160
<v Speaker 1>levels of radiation UM. Beta particles are lighter than alpha particles,

0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:08.800
<v Speaker 1>and they move fast. They're actually ejected electrons. They can

0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:12.320
<v Speaker 1>travel further than alpha particles through the air. An alpha particle,

0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:14.120
<v Speaker 1>like I said, I can only move a couple of inches,

0:31:14.360 --> 0:31:19.200
<v Speaker 1>but beta particles can move several feet. They're also moderately penetrating.

0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:22.080
<v Speaker 1>They can pass through human skin, at least under the

0:31:22.160 --> 0:31:24.960
<v Speaker 1>surface level of human skin, So if you're in contact

0:31:24.960 --> 0:31:28.000
<v Speaker 1>with beta emitting material for a prolonged amount of time,

0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:31.640
<v Speaker 1>you could suffer a skin injury like a skin burn. UH.

0:31:31.760 --> 0:31:37.480
<v Speaker 1>Stuff that emits beta radiation includes carbon fourteen, sulfur thirty five,

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:41.200
<v Speaker 1>and strontium ninety UH. Those numbers at the ends of

0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:45.160
<v Speaker 1>those names are important that designates isotopes. Isotopes are forms

0:31:45.240 --> 0:31:47.600
<v Speaker 1>of an atom that have a different number of neutrons,

0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:49.400
<v Speaker 1>but of course they have the same number of protons

0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:52.240
<v Speaker 1>and electrons. If you start having different number of protons,

0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:54.960
<v Speaker 1>then you end up with a different element. So the

0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:59.160
<v Speaker 1>most common form of carbon is carbon twelve. Carbon twelve

0:31:59.160 --> 0:32:02.520
<v Speaker 1>has six proto ons and six neutrons, but you can

0:32:02.560 --> 0:32:07.560
<v Speaker 1>also find carbon fourteen that has six protons and eight neutrons,

0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:12.280
<v Speaker 1>but it's unstable. It will undergo radioactive decay over time,

0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:15.520
<v Speaker 1>so it will spontaneously decay and give off beta emissions.

0:32:16.360 --> 0:32:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Gamma radiation, like X ray radiation, is a form of

0:32:19.920 --> 0:32:23.160
<v Speaker 1>electromagnetic radiation. If you were to look at the full

0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:26.960
<v Speaker 1>spectrum of electromagnetic radiation, radio waves are on one end

0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:30.680
<v Speaker 1>with a very long, low frequency low energy waves. Gamma

0:32:30.760 --> 0:32:33.440
<v Speaker 1>rays are on the opposite, so this is the very

0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:39.200
<v Speaker 1>very very short wavelengths incredibly high frequencies. They pack a

0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:43.200
<v Speaker 1>ton of energy in them. X rays are slightly less energetic,

0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:45.680
<v Speaker 1>but there are still far more powerful than visible light,

0:32:46.040 --> 0:32:48.720
<v Speaker 1>which is why they can penetrate through solid objects better

0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:51.920
<v Speaker 1>than visible light could, and gamma rays are even better

0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:55.520
<v Speaker 1>at it than X rays are. These rays are electrically neutral,

0:32:55.680 --> 0:32:58.320
<v Speaker 1>so magnetic fields won't cause them to change their paths.

0:32:58.360 --> 0:33:01.800
<v Speaker 1>They'll just keep going straight. They can travel many feet

0:33:01.960 --> 0:33:05.200
<v Speaker 1>through the air. They can penetrate several inches into human tissue.

0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:10.840
<v Speaker 1>In fact, it requires significant shielding to protect against gamma radiation.

0:33:11.680 --> 0:33:15.560
<v Speaker 1>Radium two twenty six amidst gamma radiation, as do several

0:33:15.600 --> 0:33:19.640
<v Speaker 1>other radioactive materials, And this is really dangerous stuff. It

0:33:19.680 --> 0:33:22.320
<v Speaker 1>will not turn you into the Incredible Hulk, but it

0:33:22.440 --> 0:33:27.800
<v Speaker 1>might cause nasty, nasty problems for you. Now, in addition

0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:30.840
<v Speaker 1>to all these observations and the growing realization that some

0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:34.400
<v Speaker 1>forms of radioactivity posed a serious health hazard to humans,

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:38.120
<v Speaker 1>scientists discovered that these forms of radiation would interact with

0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:42.920
<v Speaker 1>other particles and ionize them. That is, when the interaction

0:33:42.960 --> 0:33:47.080
<v Speaker 1>would happen, the particles would have electrons split off of them,

0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:49.880
<v Speaker 1>and by particles, I'm really talking about atoms and molecules,

0:33:49.880 --> 0:33:52.080
<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't use the word particle. I should say these

0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:54.920
<v Speaker 1>atoms are molecules. When they would encounter this kind of radiation,

0:33:55.240 --> 0:33:59.400
<v Speaker 1>they would have electrons stripped away, and the remaining molecule

0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:03.160
<v Speaker 1>or atom would end up having a net positive charge

0:34:03.640 --> 0:34:06.920
<v Speaker 1>because it just lost electrons. Electrons have a negative charge.

0:34:07.320 --> 0:34:12.319
<v Speaker 1>Were referred to this general type of radiation as ionizing radiation.

0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:18.680
<v Speaker 1>It has created ions. Not all radiation is ionizing. Radio

0:34:18.680 --> 0:34:23.360
<v Speaker 1>waves for example, are not ionizing radiation, nor are microwaves

0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:27.120
<v Speaker 1>or visible light. These types of radiation don't have enough

0:34:27.320 --> 0:34:31.920
<v Speaker 1>energy to ionize other particles, and it's why it's safe

0:34:31.920 --> 0:34:35.240
<v Speaker 1>for us to broadcast radio waves and to walk around

0:34:35.640 --> 0:34:37.719
<v Speaker 1>with radio waves going all over the place. They don't

0:34:37.760 --> 0:34:40.200
<v Speaker 1>affect us, we don't interact with them. Makes sense that

0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:43.280
<v Speaker 1>we would evolve in such a way where the radio

0:34:43.320 --> 0:34:46.040
<v Speaker 1>waves wouldn't affect us. This is why if you were

0:34:46.040 --> 0:34:48.400
<v Speaker 1>to live next to a cell phone tower, you would

0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:52.600
<v Speaker 1>not receive harmful radiation in the form of ionizing radiation,

0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:56.759
<v Speaker 1>because that's not the type that cell phone towers can emit. Uh,

0:34:57.480 --> 0:35:01.960
<v Speaker 1>they just don't pack the punch at ionizing radiation like alpha,

0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:05.400
<v Speaker 1>beta and gamma radiation as a different story, That stuff

0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:09.000
<v Speaker 1>really can mess us up, and for that reason, it's

0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:11.200
<v Speaker 1>a good thing to be able to detect it so

0:35:11.239 --> 0:35:15.280
<v Speaker 1>that we can remove ourselves or the radioactive material from

0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:18.719
<v Speaker 1>the environment that otherwise would pose a real threat to

0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:21.239
<v Speaker 1>our long term health. So when we come back, I'll

0:35:21.280 --> 0:35:24.600
<v Speaker 1>talk more about what is actually going on with the

0:35:24.680 --> 0:35:28.480
<v Speaker 1>radioactive interactions in our bodies, as well as the device

0:35:28.640 --> 0:35:31.840
<v Speaker 1>used to detect it, and it's typically called a Geiger counter.

0:35:32.120 --> 0:35:42.440
<v Speaker 1>But we'll be right back and I'll talk about then. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So radiation interacting with the human body that ionizing radiation

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:52.319
<v Speaker 1>can damage the cells in our body. Now, we have

0:35:52.480 --> 0:35:56.400
<v Speaker 1>systems in our body that are really good at repairing damage,

0:35:56.800 --> 0:36:01.760
<v Speaker 1>So it's entirely possible to encounter radiation suffer some damage

0:36:01.800 --> 0:36:03.640
<v Speaker 1>as long as the damage. As long as the radiation

0:36:03.680 --> 0:36:07.759
<v Speaker 1>wasn't so intense and the exposure so extreme that you

0:36:07.800 --> 0:36:14.080
<v Speaker 1>didn't have uh, mortal wounds from acute exposure, you might

0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:18.840
<v Speaker 1>very well recover without any issue. But radiation can damage

0:36:18.960 --> 0:36:24.040
<v Speaker 1>the d n A inside ourselves, and occasionally that can

0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:27.840
<v Speaker 1>lead to other big problems, such as the development of cancer,

0:36:28.120 --> 0:36:31.839
<v Speaker 1>which is why we say exposure to radiation increases your

0:36:31.960 --> 0:36:36.080
<v Speaker 1>risk of developing cancer. It doesn't necessarily mean that we

0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:40.799
<v Speaker 1>can easily draw a line from exposure to development, but

0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:45.000
<v Speaker 1>we certainly know that it increases your risk of developing it.

0:36:45.000 --> 0:36:48.640
<v Speaker 1>It could be the reason that someone develops cancer. But

0:36:49.680 --> 0:36:53.719
<v Speaker 1>there's so many variables it's impossible to say in any

0:36:54.000 --> 0:36:57.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, given case, uh, specific cases, you might be

0:36:57.040 --> 0:36:59.719
<v Speaker 1>able to trace it down, but now in general, you

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:02.960
<v Speaker 1>can't just easily make that that conclusion. It is clear

0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:07.840
<v Speaker 1>that acute exposure to high levels of of ionizing radiation

0:37:08.560 --> 0:37:13.120
<v Speaker 1>will cause injury and sickness and increase risk of more

0:37:13.239 --> 0:37:17.920
<v Speaker 1>serious health problems further down the line. So we want

0:37:17.960 --> 0:37:21.200
<v Speaker 1>to be able to detect that stuff early before we

0:37:21.480 --> 0:37:26.480
<v Speaker 1>risk having a longer exposure to it. Radiations invisible frequently

0:37:27.000 --> 0:37:31.080
<v Speaker 1>exposure to lower levels of it could be very harmful,

0:37:31.080 --> 0:37:34.560
<v Speaker 1>but they might not be noticeable. We might not register

0:37:34.680 --> 0:37:39.319
<v Speaker 1>it just from our own personal experience. So how do

0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:41.040
<v Speaker 1>we detect it? And that's where we get to the

0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:44.600
<v Speaker 1>Geiger Counter. It's named after a guy named Hans Geiger Counter.

0:37:45.600 --> 0:37:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Now I'm just kidding, it's actually just Hans Geiger. Some

0:37:48.920 --> 0:37:53.640
<v Speaker 1>people actually call these devices Geiger Mueller counters, because another

0:37:53.719 --> 0:37:57.920
<v Speaker 1>guy named Valter Mueller took Geiger's design and tweaked it

0:37:58.000 --> 0:38:02.200
<v Speaker 1>a bit about two decades after the initial invention of

0:38:02.239 --> 0:38:05.520
<v Speaker 1>the Geiger counter to improve its performance. Some folks just

0:38:05.800 --> 0:38:09.880
<v Speaker 1>shorten this down to GM counters. But Hans Geiger was

0:38:09.920 --> 0:38:13.319
<v Speaker 1>a physicist who worked very closely with Ernest Rutherford, whom

0:38:13.320 --> 0:38:15.799
<v Speaker 1>I mentioned earlier as being the smarty pants who was

0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:20.480
<v Speaker 1>classifying radiation as alpha, beta, and gamma, and Geiger came

0:38:20.560 --> 0:38:23.560
<v Speaker 1>up with a device that initially was meant to detect

0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:26.839
<v Speaker 1>alpha particles. He would eventually expand it so he could

0:38:26.880 --> 0:38:29.960
<v Speaker 1>detect other types of radiation too, and he did it

0:38:30.000 --> 0:38:33.960
<v Speaker 1>with a pretty clever approach. Al Right, so I mentioned

0:38:34.000 --> 0:38:37.560
<v Speaker 1>that these types of radiation have enough energy to ionize

0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:42.560
<v Speaker 1>particles right to create electrically charged particles by stripping away electrons.

0:38:42.560 --> 0:38:45.560
<v Speaker 1>So ions have a net electrical charge there. It's either

0:38:45.680 --> 0:38:47.799
<v Speaker 1>positive or negative in general, but in this case we're

0:38:47.800 --> 0:38:51.640
<v Speaker 1>talking about positive ions. And the movement of electrically charged

0:38:51.680 --> 0:38:55.600
<v Speaker 1>particles has a name. It's electricity. That's what that is.

0:38:56.080 --> 0:38:59.160
<v Speaker 1>So thought Geiger. If I can create a device that

0:38:59.280 --> 0:39:03.360
<v Speaker 1>detects the presence of ions, then it stands to reason

0:39:03.640 --> 0:39:07.719
<v Speaker 1>that something in the area is causing these ions to

0:39:07.840 --> 0:39:12.360
<v Speaker 1>form something like radioactive material over time. Geiger counters, like

0:39:12.400 --> 0:39:14.160
<v Speaker 1>I said, would be able to detect all sorts of

0:39:14.160 --> 0:39:17.160
<v Speaker 1>different types of radiation, but initially it was all about

0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:20.960
<v Speaker 1>alpha radiation. And here's how it would work. A typical

0:39:21.080 --> 0:39:25.520
<v Speaker 1>Geiger counter has a meter that's connected to a wand

0:39:25.800 --> 0:39:28.719
<v Speaker 1>or tube. So the meter is your indicator. The meter

0:39:28.840 --> 0:39:30.799
<v Speaker 1>is what tells you if you get a hit, if

0:39:30.800 --> 0:39:36.440
<v Speaker 1>there's a spike that indicates radiation. Inside the tube or

0:39:36.440 --> 0:39:40.320
<v Speaker 1>the wand is a chamber, and inside the chamber is

0:39:40.360 --> 0:39:43.880
<v Speaker 1>a low pressure gas and typically there's a a window

0:39:44.280 --> 0:39:47.120
<v Speaker 1>made out of plastic on one side of this chamber.

0:39:48.200 --> 0:39:51.480
<v Speaker 1>Also in that same chamber with the low pressure gas

0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:55.280
<v Speaker 1>is a thin metal wire of tungsten. You can almost

0:39:55.320 --> 0:39:58.800
<v Speaker 1>think of it as like the filament on a light bulb,

0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:02.960
<v Speaker 1>and the fire runs to the end of the tube

0:40:03.000 --> 0:40:07.360
<v Speaker 1>that leads into the the cable that in turn attaches

0:40:07.400 --> 0:40:11.280
<v Speaker 1>to the meter, and at the end of that wire

0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:15.640
<v Speaker 1>there is an electrode with a high positive voltage. Now

0:40:15.680 --> 0:40:17.360
<v Speaker 1>the other end of the wire is not connected to

0:40:17.400 --> 0:40:22.560
<v Speaker 1>another contact. There's no complete circuit here, so you just

0:40:22.600 --> 0:40:28.040
<v Speaker 1>have a very high positive voltage on the wire. But

0:40:28.080 --> 0:40:31.600
<v Speaker 1>it creates an electric field between the metal wire and

0:40:31.640 --> 0:40:35.440
<v Speaker 1>the outside of the tube. So if the gas inside

0:40:35.680 --> 0:40:42.160
<v Speaker 1>the tube, this low pressure gas, encounters ionizing radiation, then

0:40:42.160 --> 0:40:46.359
<v Speaker 1>that radiation will strip electrons away from the gas molecules

0:40:46.480 --> 0:40:50.440
<v Speaker 1>inside the chamber. The stripped electrons, because of their negative charge,

0:40:50.960 --> 0:40:57.600
<v Speaker 1>will immediately zap the toungusten wire inside this one because

0:40:57.640 --> 0:41:01.800
<v Speaker 1>again we've applied a strong positive voltage to that wire.

0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:05.880
<v Speaker 1>So the electrons having the negative charge are attracted to

0:41:05.920 --> 0:41:09.280
<v Speaker 1>the positive charge of the tungsten wire. UH This usually

0:41:09.320 --> 0:41:12.600
<v Speaker 1>means that there's a big rush of electrons. As electrons

0:41:12.640 --> 0:41:15.200
<v Speaker 1>are moving, they will bash into other molecules, which will

0:41:15.239 --> 0:41:18.600
<v Speaker 1>strip over other electrons, so you'll get a quick zap.

0:41:18.840 --> 0:41:23.120
<v Speaker 1>Then you typically have to quench the Geiger counter, but

0:41:23.760 --> 0:41:25.920
<v Speaker 1>that really doesn't matter for the rest of this discussion.

0:41:25.960 --> 0:41:28.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it matters, but we're gonna focus on how

0:41:28.120 --> 0:41:31.640
<v Speaker 1>this is detecting things. So you get a bunch of

0:41:31.640 --> 0:41:35.240
<v Speaker 1>electrons that hit this tungsten wire that creates a pulse

0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:38.360
<v Speaker 1>of electricity, and the pulse is what feeds through a

0:41:38.400 --> 0:41:42.080
<v Speaker 1>cable that goes to the meter, and the meter registers

0:41:42.120 --> 0:41:44.480
<v Speaker 1>that there's been a pulse of electricity, which means that

0:41:44.560 --> 0:41:48.000
<v Speaker 1>there's been the generation of ions inside this chamber, which

0:41:48.000 --> 0:41:52.439
<v Speaker 1>in turn means you've encountered some sort of ionizing radiation. Uh.

0:41:52.520 --> 0:41:56.839
<v Speaker 1>The wire might also pass the signal through an amplifier.

0:41:57.400 --> 0:42:00.880
<v Speaker 1>The amplifier will increase the power of that signal and

0:42:00.960 --> 0:42:03.040
<v Speaker 1>send it to a loud speaker, and that's where you

0:42:03.080 --> 0:42:05.279
<v Speaker 1>get that clicking noise. So if you've ever seen a

0:42:05.280 --> 0:42:07.759
<v Speaker 1>movie where someone's using a Geiger counter and you're hearing

0:42:07.800 --> 0:42:11.480
<v Speaker 1>a series of clicks, that's because the idea is that

0:42:11.560 --> 0:42:15.440
<v Speaker 1>the wires picking up electric pulses due to ions, and

0:42:15.480 --> 0:42:17.560
<v Speaker 1>then that's being sent to a loud speakers, so that's

0:42:17.600 --> 0:42:21.600
<v Speaker 1>what's making the clicking noise. The beauty of this design

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<v Speaker 1>is that it isolates the ions source from the environment.

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<v Speaker 1>Right the source of the ions is this gas inside

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<v Speaker 1>a chamber. The gas is kept separate from the surrounding environment,

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<v Speaker 1>so you don't have to worry about somehow encountering ions

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<v Speaker 1>out in the wild, Like if you were standing next

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<v Speaker 1>to an ion generator. Let's say you've gotten ionization purifier,

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<v Speaker 1>something that's meant to purify the air in your room,

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<v Speaker 1>you shouldn't get a readoubt from your Geiger counter because

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<v Speaker 1>the ions being generated by this ionization chamber would not

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<v Speaker 1>be interacting with the gas inside the Geiger counters chamber. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>the only time the gas and the Giger counter should

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<v Speaker 1>be ionizing at all is if you're coming into range

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<v Speaker 1>of ionizing radiation. So dependent upon the intensity of the

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<v Speaker 1>readelts you're getting, you would know kind of how much

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<v Speaker 1>radiation you were experiencing at any given moment. And again,

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<v Speaker 1>radiation exposure on its own does not immediately mean that

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<v Speaker 1>you mutate or you you know, suffer terrible injuries unless

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<v Speaker 1>it's an incredibly intense amount of radiation uh at very

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<v Speaker 1>high energies. But it does mean that you need to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, get out of there and to find some

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<v Speaker 1>other place to be. One thing I didn't really talk

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<v Speaker 1>about in this episode was the concept of half life's

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<v Speaker 1>and that is important because half life's also give us

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<v Speaker 1>an idea of how long radioactive material could potentially remain dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you're looking at half lives that are on

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of years, you're talking about uh, time that extends

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<v Speaker 1>beyond that which humans have been on Earth right as

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<v Speaker 1>at least as human beings as we understand them, but

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<v Speaker 1>we might trace it back to an earlier evolutionary form

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<v Speaker 1>of humans. But you start looking at some of these

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<v Speaker 1>materials and you realize, wow, this stuff is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be radioactive for longer than humans have been walking around

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<v Speaker 1>on Earth as human beings. Uh. That's why you get

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<v Speaker 1>people who are concerned about things like nuclear power, where

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<v Speaker 1>one of the byproducts of nuclear power tends to be

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear waste that is radioactive. Some of that nuclear waste

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<v Speaker 1>will be radioactive and dangerously so for a relatively short time.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are other types of nuclear waste that will

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<v Speaker 1>be radioactive for a very long time and sure in

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<v Speaker 1>uh it's not emitting radiation at a level high enough

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<v Speaker 1>for it to you know, be dangerous if we don't

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<v Speaker 1>treat it carefully, but it's persistent and and long time

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<v Speaker 1>exposure to it will increase our risk of developing really

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<v Speaker 1>nasty diseases like cancer, So that's where that concern comes in. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a lot of different approaches to nuclear power

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<v Speaker 1>to mitigate the creation of nuclear waste, and there are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of plans on what to do with that

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear waste to try and keep it far enough away

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<v Speaker 1>from people to not be a problem, but that all

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<v Speaker 1>runs into a lot of other social issues that are

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<v Speaker 1>harder to solve than technical issues. Um. On the flip side,

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<v Speaker 1>we're also looking at possibilities like fusion power, which is

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<v Speaker 1>very different from the fission process that generates a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of nuclear waste, but those are topics for a different episode.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you have a greater understanding of how radiation

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<v Speaker 1>works and what it actually means, as well as how

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<v Speaker 1>Geiger counters work. Again, I think it's a very elegant

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<v Speaker 1>way to try and detect radiation it's not so much

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<v Speaker 1>detecting the radiation directly, but rather the effects of radiation

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<v Speaker 1>on something that we can more easily observe directly. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a very clever approach to uh to

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<v Speaker 1>creating a meter. If you guys have suggestions for future

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