1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,720 Speaker 1: As a boy, I used to write down what I 2 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: wanted and with the sandy clause at the north pole. 3 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: Of course, now I'm older and wise. No, I just 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: go to the nearest department store and hand it to 5 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: him in person. Ron and Nanian, did I hear right 6 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: at the beginning of your show you said you don't 7 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: have time. No, it's it's not that I don't have time, 8 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: since I just I have all these broken cars here 9 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: that i'm you know, and they count on me to 10 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: come in every week. And I trust you, the Car Doctor. 11 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: Taxos two, if I'm not mistaken, is a rating. Why 12 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: do I think Dexos two is a rating for diesel classification? Um? 13 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: I just read this. Yeah, names European cur Yeah, um, 14 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: I think you're fine with the Dexos one. Welcome to 15 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: the radio home of Ron and Nanian the Car Doctor, 16 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: since this is where car owners the world overturned to 17 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics 18 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone and 19 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: call in. The garage doors are open, but I am 20 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: here to take your calls at eight five five five six, 21 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: and now you'll shoot your eye out kids running, start 22 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: your engines, Hello, and welcome run and aning of the 23 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: car doctor here at five five five six zero nine 24 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: nine zero zero here talking to you about your car 25 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: and it's problems, whatever they might be, and let's go 26 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: forward and fix them, because that's what this radio show 27 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: is about and has been about the past twenty seven 28 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: plus years. I should point out on today's show we 29 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: are giving away a Millennium ninety courtesy the folks over 30 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: at Lunch Launch Take USA. The Millennium ninety is a 31 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: code reader, but it also does data stream. It shows 32 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 1: readiness status, freeze frame, really great little scantal color color 33 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: screen if I'm not mistaken at those oil resets. Um, 34 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: it gets into a BS and air bag and it's 35 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: the It's it's close to the top of the line 36 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: of the Millennium series from the folks over at Launch. 37 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: You can read more about it at lunch to Take 38 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: USA dot com. And all you ought to do to 39 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: win and be part of this holiday giveaway is call 40 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: us at five zero nine nine zero zero. Decision of 41 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: the judges, Tom and Tony is final. Um, they're the 42 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: guys in the control room. You gotta be nice to 43 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: them and smile through the phone as we say, and 44 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: you know, talk him into it and tell him why 45 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: you need a millennium ninety, why you need your own 46 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: skin tol. But we're happy to do it and happy 47 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: to give it away and uh, help spread some diagnostic 48 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: cheer as we go out throughout this year. Hey, that 49 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: kind of rhymes. You know, I could be on radio 50 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: look at that? How do you like them? Apples? Um, 51 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: lots of things going on, a lot of stories. I 52 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: want to, you know, talk to you about this week. 53 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about Ralph. Ralph is Um. 54 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: I guess I'll tell you the story this way, just 55 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: to show you the kind of week it was at 56 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: the shop that I think I've mentioned this once before. 57 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: A woman keeps calling the shop and I'm not sure 58 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: who she is. Is a second time it happened, Um, 59 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: she called up looking for her car. She was she 60 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: was looking for a Toyota see in a minivan and 61 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: you know is my Toyota van don And I said, uh, 62 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: you know who is this? And she didn't really say, 63 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: she goes, well, you know this is I dropped off 64 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: my car this morning and I gave the keys to 65 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: Ralph and I said, well, you know, there's no Ralph here, 66 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: and she said, well, no, there is a Ralph there. 67 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: That's that's where I was. This is our automotive, and 68 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: I was. We kind of went back and forth a 69 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: little bit, and the gist of the conversation sort of 70 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: came out to be when she said, well, you know, 71 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: come on, this is you Ralph. I know this is you. 72 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: Uh lady, it's not Ralph. She says, well, where's Ralph? 73 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: I don't know where's your car? She goes, well, I 74 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: dropped it off there. That's when I hung up the phone. So, 75 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: you know, it was just that kind of a week 76 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: that people didn't seem to know where they were dropping 77 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: their cars off and who they were talking to. So 78 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: I know the holidays are getting near. I know things 79 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: are getting a little frantic and and frenetic. It's um 80 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: you can see it that it's it's coming. That we're 81 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: a little bit flummixed, I think is the word. So 82 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: let's take a chill pill and you know, try and 83 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: get through the next couple of weeks. Please. I had 84 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: a new car this week, or had I had a 85 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: new customer in last week? And uh, you know, sometimes 86 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: your heart goes out right. Two thousand Nissan Frontier came 87 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: in the door of the shop, and I like Rick, 88 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: Rick did that? Rick did it very well. He came 89 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: in and he asked me, said, hey, you're taking any 90 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: new clients, and you know, I guess I am and 91 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: I'm not. You know, I just I got to hear 92 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: the story that goes behind it when they come in 93 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: to ask that kind of question. It seems he brought 94 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: a two thousand Nissan Frontier from a used card dealer, 95 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: and you know, the promise was that we guarantee the 96 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: car for inspection. We guarantee that it will uh you know, 97 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,799 Speaker 1: be ready to go and pass inspection. And that somewhere 98 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: along the way, the check engine light came on and 99 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: it wouldn't pass inspection, and it needed catalytic converters, and 100 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: to their credit, they tried. They put catalytic converters in it, 101 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: and then it went back and he started driving it, 102 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: and then it started having an overheating problem. And all 103 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: this occurred within a very short time span. It was 104 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: less than two weeks. So they found a salvage yard. 105 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: To call it what it is, a junkyard engine. They 106 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: put a junk yard engine in it, and that rid 107 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: of the catalytic converter code problem. That got rid of 108 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: the overheat issue. But as soon as Rick started driving 109 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: the truck and all he was doing was trying to 110 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: get a carver retty to give to his young son 111 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: who's just a driving age it, it started to develop 112 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: a e g R fault and e g R fault 113 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: code of pzero four hundred, and it also developed a 114 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: P fourteen forty which is an evaporative emissions fault. After 115 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: some diagnosis and steps, and what I always tell you 116 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: about diagnosis, right that it's it's the research that goes 117 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: into it, the time you spend in order to accurately 118 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: come to a positive conclusion. You know. After some research 119 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: it it turned out that the e g R valve 120 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: did not have vacuum going to it. There was no 121 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: vacuum control. So I had a trace out vacuum control. 122 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: Now it's a it's a pretty simple system. There's a 123 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: back pressure transducer and a bunch of other things which 124 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 1: will probably send some of you over the edge with 125 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: your head spinning. So suffice it to say it just 126 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: it was a basic e g R system with a 127 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,679 Speaker 1: couple of change as our add ons, and it turned 128 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: out that it had no vacuum coming out of the 129 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: intake manifold. Now that the feed line for the e 130 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: g R goes through the vents solenoider, through the control 131 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: solenoid and out the other leg and feeds up a 132 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: metal tube and goes underneath the intake plantam and it 133 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: kind of disappears under there and comes out the other 134 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: side and attaches to these while it's supposed to attach to. 135 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: There's three little metal nipples at the back of the manifold, 136 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: and one through three. One goes this way for MAP, 137 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: the other one goes that way for heat or control, 138 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: and the other one in the middle is supposed to 139 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: be e g R e g R v PT, And 140 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: it didn't it. The metal line went under the intake 141 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: as far as I could see, but I couldn't see 142 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: where it came out the other side. So I looked 143 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: at the vacuum supply port and or the three vacuum 144 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: supply ports, and everybody had factory lines on them, and 145 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: even had a nice factory rubber cap on the one 146 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: that I thought would be for e g R. And 147 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: I said, that doesn't make any sense to me. Did 148 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: a little more research finally found a factory picture factory 149 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: vacuum die agram showing that yeah, you know if and 150 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: it's said, that's what caught my eye. If the vehicle 151 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: has an e g R valve, if it's so equipped, 152 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: it has to have a vacuum line on this particular port. 153 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: So I took the upper plentinum apart and ran out 154 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: of a vacuum line and put it together. And what 155 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: do you know it had e g R. What do 156 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: you know it had or it had vacuum and what 157 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: do you know the e g R work. And I 158 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: sat there and I thought about it, and I said, 159 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: look at the you know, look how tough auto repair is. 160 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: You go through the pain of putting an engine in 161 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: a vehicle, and you've got that skill set. And they 162 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: did a fairly decent job. But they couldn't see it 163 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: all the way through because when they couldn't get the 164 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: e g R to work, and they couldn't get the 165 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:46,119 Speaker 1: evap evaporative emission system to be diagnosed, they just dropped 166 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: it off on ricks front lawn and said it's over 167 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,559 Speaker 1: thirty days, it's now your car. It's your problem, which 168 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: you know, I understand why this business has the has 169 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: the issues that it has, so you know, it was 170 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: a good feeling, it really was. But that was the 171 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: kind of week I had. Um, you know, took the 172 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: vacuum nipple off, put a vacuum hose on it because 173 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: it turned out that this used car dealer found an 174 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: engine in a salvage yard that wasn't e g R equipped. 175 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: And that was the whole point that what are the odds, right? 176 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: You know, a two thousand frontier, how many of them 177 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: did they make with e g R? How many of 178 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: them they didn't make without? They had shot and it 179 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: went the wrong way. They put in one without e 180 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: g R in it, and they tried to adapt it 181 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: to make it work. Just that they didn't realize it 182 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: and have to go through the rest of the way. 183 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 1: And UM, just just like wow, right, Um. Research is 184 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: what it comes down to. Research and diagnosing a car 185 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: and its problem or just got to be part of 186 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: the solution. That's why you know, when you call me 187 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: up and you say, hey, I did this, this and 188 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 1: this the first words out of my mouth or did 189 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: you diagnose anything? No, I didn't want to spend any money. 190 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: You know, you just threw with the parts of the 191 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: car and where what did that get you? Um? So 192 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: just you know, just things to look forward to, things 193 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: to be uh mildly concerned about. So um. And that's 194 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: part of the reason why we're pushing to give away 195 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: scan tools. We want everybody to have a scan tool. 196 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: We'd like everybody to have a scan toil. A scan 197 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: tool in every pot. Doesn't like a chicken in every pot, 198 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: a scan tool in every pot, so that you know, 199 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: you can at least see what's going on. And scan 200 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: tools are getting much more affordable. But you know this 201 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: millennium nineties geared more towards well it's it's geared towards 202 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: to do it yourselfer. But it's it's it's it's a 203 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: very nice tool. Whoever gets this today will be very 204 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: very happy, trust me. Um. So anyway, let's pull over 205 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: and take a pause. E five five five six zero 206 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. I'm running any of the car doctor, 207 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: and when we return, we'll we'll open the garage doors. 208 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: Hang out one second, Hey, welcome back. Aren't any of 209 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: the car doctor. Let's get over and go open the 210 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: garage doors. Let's go talk to Kurt Lacrosse, Wisconsin, Oh 211 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: two Honda Civic and some transisues. Kurt, Welcome to the car, doctor, sir, 212 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: how can help? I've got Honda Civic e X two 213 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: thousand and two. I went to a site called vehicle 214 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 1: history dot Calm or organ and it showed like twenty 215 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: recalls on this car for the car, for the car, 216 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: for the transmission, Kurt, for the whole car. But I mean, 217 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 1: the main thing is that when I went to Honda site, 218 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,719 Speaker 1: they said there was only two recalls on it. When 219 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: I went to this vehicle history dot org or dot 220 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: com actually and put my bin number in, it showed 221 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: twenty things recalls on this car alone. And one of 222 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: them was that the transmission. They said that. When I 223 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: got the schematic for it, it said the transmission filter 224 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: was in. You couldn't actually replace it on this model. 225 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: You can, you had it was actually in the motor. 226 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 1: It was in. You have to take off the transmission 227 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: to get to it. You have to take the trans 228 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: split the case and it's in the bottom correct correct, 229 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: right right right. So then they said the best way 230 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: to do it is just to take that magnetic plug 231 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: out of it and drain the training fluid. And and 232 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: and I did it like three times, thinking because there's 233 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: a problem in between second and third gear that transmission slips. Well, 234 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: it just happened on this car history. It says in 235 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: between second and third gear. There's a history of this 236 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: car and a recall according to that that it was 237 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 1: that they had problems in between second and third gear. 238 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: So I put Lucas no slip U in there along 239 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: with the transmission fluid on the last one. And it's 240 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: still doing it. And he said, well, you know the 241 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: car will they run forever? And he said, the car 242 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: will just keep doing that and it'll probably give you 243 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: no problems at all. It will just continue to do that. 244 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: But it wasn't really affixed. Who told you that there 245 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 1: was a service at Honda Motor Works. A service advisor 246 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: from Honda said, it's okay to drive the car with 247 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: a slipping transmission. Yep, yep, as long as you know 248 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: on that walls I do is I Actually it's like 249 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 1: a manual transmission, and I let off on it, it 250 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: will shift without slipping. But if I apply acceleration to it, 251 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: it's gonna it's gonna jump about a thousand rpm and 252 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: then it'll finally catch. Okay, first of all, the cars 253 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: unsafe to drive, just from your description, all right, because 254 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: what you're gonna what you're gonna really end up doing 255 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: over time. And I can't tell you when. I can't 256 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: tell you if it's gonna be today, tomorrow, next week, 257 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: next month, next year. But if it's if it's losing 258 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: the shift point between second and third, that the engine 259 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 1: speed flares to a thousand rpm, that that's that's sudden jolt. 260 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: That shock isn't good for everything. It's it's a free 261 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: ref to a grand and then drop it back into gear. 262 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: It's gonna shock things apart over time. Uh, you know, 263 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: unless you're you know, I guess you know your program 264 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: ramming yourself now to shift second gear and let off 265 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: the gas, wait till it shifts into third and then 266 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: apply the gas. But and you're gonna tell me nobody 267 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: else does. But how's anybody else ever going to drive 268 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: the car? Right? Well? That I even my my girlfriend, 269 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 1: and I said, you know when it gets up to 270 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: let off on it, right, yeah, this isn't And that's 271 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: what she does, and that's what she does. And the 272 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: reason why I have to live with it is because 273 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 1: the only way to really probably fix it is by 274 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: taking the transmission off and obviously you know talking major 275 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: major bucks. Well are you a Well, let me ask 276 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: you this question. First of all, I want to address 277 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: the vehicle History dot com or dot org comments twenty 278 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: versus what Honda said. The only website I've found to 279 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: be accurate and the one I've used is n h 280 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 1: t s A dot gov. Have you been to that yet? Um? 281 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: Have you been to go to n h n h 282 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: t s A, which is National Highway Traffic Safety Authority 283 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: dot go o V. Now, for all I know, vehicle 284 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 1: History dot com is a is a spinoff of n 285 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: h t s A or it's a dot gov. And 286 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: maybe I'm sending you to the same place. So and 287 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: that's okay. If NITSA says there's two recalls, there's two recalls. 288 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: If NITZA says there's twenty recalls, there's twenty recalls, and 289 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: there's you know, they'll they'll likely be a phone number 290 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 1: there you can go and talk to somebody and it's 291 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: and say, hey, how come the website says this? And 292 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: Honda tells me that, and they can kind of help 293 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: you balance balance the two. Have you spoken to a 294 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: service advisor or writer at Honda, not American Honda out 295 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: in California, not the manufacturer, but actually at the dealer level, 296 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: have you spoken to anybody that way, just at the 297 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: dealer level and the cross And then I said, there's 298 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: I've got all these a matter of fact, that the 299 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: initials that you gave me are on this site right 300 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: down that NITA or whatever you put out there is 301 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: on this site and it says that that name, that 302 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: initials and right behind it right so to me. Then 303 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: it car has twenty recalls on it, whatever they are, 304 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: you know, if they're all on the same him or 305 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: so on and so forth. There was an extended warranty 306 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: applied to this particular car for the transmission. This car 307 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: had multiple transmission issues. Automatic transit or the weak link 308 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: of just about every Honda out there on the road 309 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: in the past fifteen twenty years. I don't know when 310 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: it exactly ended. There's been more than a couple of 311 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: service bulletins from Honda. One was one where they talked 312 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: about it in depth. Automatic transit warranty exchange program was 313 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: dated probably ten years ago at this point. So you know, 314 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: I would I would start pushing and doing some research 315 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: and try and find the most current version of the 316 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: warranty exchange program for the trans and see when exactly 317 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: did yours Yours probably out of coverage, but you might 318 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: have an argument based on how how long ago was 319 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: it out of coverage, six weeks ago, six months ago, 320 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: six years ago, et cetera. You get my point, you know, 321 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: and and then you can kind of take it from there. 322 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: But under no circumstance would I tell you it's okay 323 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: to drive the car, because at some point it's going 324 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: to fail. And what if it fails two o'clock in 325 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: the morning on a cold across Wisconsin road. You guys 326 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: have been known to have some cold winters up there, 327 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: and uh, you know what if it's in a part 328 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: of the country where, you know, a part of the 329 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: hillside where you've you've got to get home and it's 330 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: late at night and the car is not reliable. Any 331 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: dashboard warning lights on, kurt yep, check engine lights on 332 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: that that that that the thing that's back in from 333 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: the tank on the rear, you know what I mean, 334 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: the sensor that goes to that that goes from the 335 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: gas tank. I'm trying to think of the name of 336 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: it right now. There's a recall on that too, and 337 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: that's the reason that the code comes up. I think 338 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: it's seventeen fifty three our seventeen fifty two that it throws. 339 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: And that's that down that little unit that goes on 340 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: that that vent deletion for the tank one comes up, 341 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: the FTP sensor or the event off for the canisters 342 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: vent belt canister event right, Okay, it's that little gauge 343 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:14,479 Speaker 1: that well, you know, if there's open recalls on this car, 344 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 1: if there's open recalls on this car, and then it's 345 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: open recalls, and you've you've earned the right by merely 346 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 1: by ownership, to have them performed. So let's go backwards. 347 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: Why don't you call it torrans? I think it's Torrance, California, 348 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: as American Hansa's headquarters. Why don't you call Torrance, California 349 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: and ask them, you know, listen, here's my vent. I 350 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 1: can't get a straighter answer out of the dealer here 351 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: in town, according to n h T s A dot gov. 352 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: And that should wake somebody's that should you know, wake 353 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: somebody's ears up and get their attention. This car has 354 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: more than two recalls on it, and I'd like to 355 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 1: know just what it is, because I want to know 356 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: if I'm if I'm driving a safe car or not 357 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: before I turn it over to my lawyer. Talk to 358 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: him that way, all right, sir, do that and let 359 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 1: me know where it goes. But if there's a check 360 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: engine light on, there's a fault code in there. And 361 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 1: that's why I say it's not good to drive that car, 362 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: because what if it sets another full code for another system? 363 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: How will you ever know? And you won't, So it's 364 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: got to get resolved. It's not reliable. Let's start with 365 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: getting some more information. If we can talk again the 366 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: week after next, if you'd like, I'm running anady of 367 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: the Card Doctor. We're coming back right after this Welcome back. 368 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 1: We're on a nai the Card Doctor zero zero. Sometime 369 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: this hour next we're giving away a Millennium ninety courtesy 370 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: the folks at launch Tech USA Launch Scan Tools. You 371 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: need to call in to have a chance to win. 372 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 1: Tom and Tony or the judges be nice when you 373 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: call in. I'm not sure what their priorities or what 374 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: their values are today. Um maybe you'll call in and 375 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: say you like the Giants. Maybe so, No, Tony, that's 376 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: not it. Tom, that's not it. Um, that's what what 377 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 1: is the what is the winning? Uh? Phrase? Today? We 378 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: don't know the phrase that pays Ralph? Ralph? Yeah? Can 379 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: you imagine that the lady thought I was Ralph and 380 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: then she's arguing with me that I'm Ralph and I'm saying, no, 381 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:08,239 Speaker 1: I'm not Ralph. Come on yelling the story Ralph. We 382 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: know this is you, Ralph Lady, I'm not Ralph. I'm Ron. 383 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 1: Oh when did he hire you? Then? Who hired me? Ralph? Lady? 384 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,479 Speaker 1: I'm not Ralph. I just you know you can't make 385 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: it up. I'm gonna write a book one of these days. Uh. 386 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: You know why you can't get your car fixed by 387 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: Ron and Nanny and the car doctor. It's like, holy smokes. Um. Anyway, 388 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: let's go over and talk to is that I can't 389 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 1: read that name? Is that vil virla l l? There 390 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: we go, Hey girl, how are you roning? Nanny? And 391 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: at your service? Or how can I help? Yeah? I've 392 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: got a I got a note about ten years ago. 393 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: I called you and then he called me la then 394 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 1: and got grasped about it. Every Listen, at least I'm sorry. Listen, 395 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: at least I'm consistent though you gotta admit that. Uh, 396 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 1: you know what. You know what the scary part is, 397 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: It's I've been on the air over ten years. It's like, 398 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: can you imagine like we're talking about something from ten 399 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 1: years ago? Uh, it seemed like I started this yesterday. Uh, 400 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: but that's another story, I hope. So I'm enjoying every 401 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: minute of it. Man, I'll tell you what, I'm having 402 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: a great time. Twenty seven years plus. Next year starts 403 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: our fifth year self syndication in years on radio. So 404 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: we're just rolling right along. What can I do for you, 405 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: my friend? Well, I guess you've got the notes there 406 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: the guy, I have got a zuzu. I T ninety, 407 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 1: same as severally Colorado and I didn't tell you both 408 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: issues I forgot. But an issue that's to the forefront 409 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: right now is I used to go a month or 410 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 1: two and they wouldn't have this problem, and then it 411 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: would show up, and it would go away and go back. 412 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: You go out cold or warm and it doesn't do it. 413 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: But well, yesterday again, Now it's getting more often it 414 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: won't start, but if I just wait ten or fifteen minutes, 415 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: it'll start right up again. And I do have an 416 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 1: engine light that comes on occasionally. It's the other issue, 417 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: and whether it's related, I do not know. And codes 418 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 1: have been pulled and h it was crank censor and 419 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: camp censor. They've both been replaced and I can live 420 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: with that. But this, this won't start for ten minutes. 421 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: Thing is kind of getting old. Well, is are the 422 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: fault codes that are still coming up? Cam and crank? Yes, okay, 423 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: and they're intermittent. Yeah okay, So I can I can 424 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: take and reset the either they do it when they 425 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: aren't supposed to, but they do it anyway. Reset the 426 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: computer somehow. I can take the cable off the battery 427 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 1: and this wait a little bit, and then today I 428 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: did that. Yesterday I did that, and it hasn't the 429 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: check engine light hasn't even come on yet. But no, 430 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: but it starts right now. It's I just drove it 431 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: home from a place where I wouldn't start, but I 432 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 1: had to wait ten minutes. So it's it's a ten 433 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: minute time out. Yeah okay, And it's consistently ten minutes. Yes, 434 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 1: when it when it goes, when it when it goes 435 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: into this no start ten minute thing. Do you have 436 00:21:54,600 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 1: access to a scan tool? Uh? No, I don't because 437 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 1: I'd love to see if when it happens, can you 438 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: talk to the vehicle PCM? Alright, One of the things 439 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: I would tell you to look for is, at the 440 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: very least the next time it happens, turn the key on. 441 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: Does the check engine light light up? No, it doesn't 442 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: because I did that today and it didn't. Right, So 443 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: the PCM is not awake. Isn't that interesting? Right? Yeah? Okay, 444 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 1: if and I'm not saying it's gonna, you know, turn 445 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: the key on, it's gonna stay on the the you'll 446 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 1: you'll turn the key on, and you know, a matter 447 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 1: of fact, when the truck's running normal. I always say, 448 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: in order to fix something broken, you have to know 449 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: how it works, right, So we've got to look at 450 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: normal too many times as mechanics, we woke up to 451 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: a broken car for the first time and go, oh boy, 452 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: let me get this new whizbang, shiny new tool out 453 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: of my toolbox that I've been trying to use for 454 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: two years and learn how to use it on the 455 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: broken car that doesn't work? All right? So you know, 456 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: if the truck's running now, if you hang up for 457 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: me now and the truck runs, who outside started. Okay, 458 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 1: it starts, it runs, it does what it's supposed to. 459 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: Turn it off. Count count to ten, count to fifteen, 460 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: turn the key on, but don't start it. How long 461 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: does the check engine light come on? For four seconds? Okay, 462 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: and that's probably what it does. It's bulb check, all right, 463 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: shut it off, count the thirty, turn it back on. 464 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: Does it come back on for four seconds? Yep? Okay, 465 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 1: so we now know bulb check on EUROS seven Suzu 466 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: is four seconds. Right now, the next time it doesn't start, 467 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: turn the key off, count to ten, turn the key on. 468 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: Does the bulb does the check engine light light up? 469 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: If it doesn't, the PCM is not awake all right, 470 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: because the PCM has gotta have the ability to command 471 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: the m I L to command the check engine light. 472 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: They call that bulb check. That's actually part of the 473 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: emission controls language the way it was written in the 474 00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: Clean Air Act. So a show ECM electronic control module 475 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: or PCM powertrain control module, depending upon you know what's 476 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: what what what school of technology you went to, But 477 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: the point becomes that it's it's an indicator. Is the 478 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,719 Speaker 1: thing awake? I mean, you could do the same thing 479 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: with a scan tool. And you know, I'd love to 480 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: I'd love to take a car like this and start 481 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: polling p O L L I n G. Pulling all 482 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: the computers on the car. Who's awake, who's not, who's 483 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: being a sleepyhead, who doesn't want to get out of bed, 484 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: who's trying to do their job and getting no help 485 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: from everybody else, who's on the bus, who's who's who's 486 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: talking to who? And you'll find out it sounds like 487 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 1: you're gonna find out the the the computer itself isn't awake, 488 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: that it's not doing its job. Now we've got to 489 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: figure out why does it have a power problem? Is 490 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: this wiring connection? Is this an internal PCM fault. What's 491 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: what's very common with the Colorado is Suzu series of 492 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: the two nine four sold It is a two nine correct? Right? 493 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 1: I do not know it's it's it's a two ninety. 494 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: This is a two point nine Leader. Is a two 495 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 1: point nine Leader one engine, four cylinder? Okay? I think 496 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: this is the four cylinder two point nine Leader, Uh, 497 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 1: same thing as in the Colorado. Correct, this is the 498 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: Colorado motor. Okay that What's what's very common with these 499 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: is they will usually set up P zero six oh one, 500 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: which is an internal memory issue in the PCM, and 501 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: the PCM gets replaced. And and I'm in no way, 502 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: shape or form vile suggesting you run out and put 503 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: a computer in the car. But you know, I would 504 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: definitely want to start thinking about that. You know, one 505 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: of the things perhaps someone could do is locate the PCM. 506 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: I'm not sure where it is on a Suzu, but 507 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: if it happens to be accessible, maybe it's under the hood, 508 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: maybe it's in the passenger compartment, if it's not awake, 509 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 1: and you could just you know, go through powers and grounds. 510 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: Do the connectors look gnarled up? Start thinking about connections 511 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: at the battery I've seen I've seen loose negative battery 512 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: cables cause all kinds of flaky PCM issues too. You 513 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: know what, once in a while, you gotta give that 514 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: computer a kick. Playing English, I know I've just made 515 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 1: everybody quiver and all the text went. Who would never 516 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 1: do that? You know what, You're stuck on the side 517 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: of a road, You'll try anything to get a car running. 518 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,719 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I used to think in my 519 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: own come from a communications engineer for the radio station 520 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: but uh, intermittence. It's not intermittence because it wouldn't it 521 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't have it wouldn't clear itself in ten minutes right 522 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: right to me, the fact that this is doing this 523 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: on a consistent ten minute basis, something's something's timing out, 524 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: all right, and it makes it makes me think the 525 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: PCM is going into anti theft mode. That's that's a 526 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: security thing right. As a matter of fact, I would 527 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: also be curious, you know, if you had access to it, 528 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 1: could you check fuel pressure on this truck? What's it missing? 529 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: Fuel pressure? Spark and JETR pulse. And I bet the 530 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 1: answer is gonna be yes, all right, And I bet 531 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: it's gonna come down to that all of a sudden, 532 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: it's losing all it's it's it's losing its inputs. The 533 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 1: PCM is not awake, and this is gonna be you know, 534 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: whether it's anti theft related that it can't read the 535 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 1: key code from the lock cylinder for some reason, or 536 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: whether the PCM is actually falling asleep and not waking up. 537 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: I'm not even sure what kind of security system this 538 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: thing has because I don't I don't have that. He 539 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: doesn't have a button or anything where you can know 540 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: it's probably on. It's probably in the lock cylinder. If 541 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: it has anything, it's in the lock cylinder. Okay, although 542 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 1: it's hard to imagine we'd put anti theft on a Suxu, 543 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: not to pick on it, but who'd want to steal it? 544 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,959 Speaker 1: At this point, it's ten years old. Joe is Susu 545 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 1: left the country about nine years ago, so it took 546 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: all those TV commercials with him. So um, but that's 547 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: where I would be headed. I would be starting to 548 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: think about that and see what we could prove that way. Well, 549 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 1: somebody said something about or I went on to the 550 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: internet and it said something about when it don't start, 551 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: uh turn the key two notches to where it would 552 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 1: be running. But that's the one just before you actually crank, 553 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: and uh just leave it that way way for about 554 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: ten minutes and see if it will start. Well, of 555 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: course it wouldn't start anyway then, right, Well, what what 556 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: what they're doing is they're doing that because they're going 557 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: on the assumption that the anti FFT system lost its 558 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: key code and that you're you're you're giving it the 559 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: ability to learn. Alright, we go through we you know, 560 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: I don't know the engineers thing funny. They go through 561 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: these great lengths to you know, make cars unstealable and 562 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: components unstealable, and then they give us this bypass function 563 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: and let it sit for ten minutes, because no car 564 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: thief in his right mind would sit for ten minutes 565 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: in a car trying to learn the key code in 566 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: order to still You know, I believe me. The whole 567 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: anti theft thing is so crazy anyway, because if they 568 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: want the car, they're pulling up a flatbed, jacking it 569 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: up in the park a lot, pulling it up on 570 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: the back of the bed, and off they go. All right, 571 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: anti sef doesn't mean anything, right, Think about it. Every 572 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: time you've seen a car getting towed by a flatbed, 573 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: have you ever gone over and said, hey, are you 574 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: stealing that car? You're really here to tow it, right, 575 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: have you? I've never, I've never done that. I'm just like, oh, great, 576 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: another one off the road. You know. It's so try 577 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: those things for me, broll call me back the week 578 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: after next. I'm I'm getting ready for the holidays. Next 579 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: week we'll see may or may not. Going Merry Christmas 580 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: to you too, alright, So good talking to you after 581 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: all these years. All right, tell your buddies to knock 582 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: it off. All right, You'll always be virl to me. 583 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: Thank you, You're very welcome. You take good care. Five 584 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: five zero nine zero, runing any of the car doctor 585 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: coming back right after this? Hey, coming up best in 586 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: car advice. Give Ron a call eight five five five 587 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: six zero nine nine zero zero. Now back to Ron. 588 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: You know that almost sounds like the offen imitated, never duplicated, 589 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: no bologning, not a phony one and only Tom Ray, Mr. 590 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: You're you're at the microphone. You have a question? Yes, 591 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: I had a question for the car doctor. Can can 592 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: I talk to him? Um? I'll see he's kind of 593 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: busy right now. But well, no, you know you mentioned 594 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: the anti theF system in the car, um, you know, 595 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: and and you mentioned it every so often if and 596 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: obviously it talks to the key right there. There's a 597 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: chip in the key. There's a digital chip and they 598 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: do it very resistance or some sort of digital signal 599 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: or something, depending upon the sophistication. And and and obviously 600 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: if that chip goes bad, you're not going to start 601 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: the car. Right Well, so what happens if you're driving 602 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: down the road and the chip just goes belly up. 603 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: The car will keep running. To my knowledge, every car line, 604 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: the car will keep running. That's a great question. The 605 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: car will keep running, but when you get to your location, 606 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: it will go into a no start condition. Now, don't 607 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: necessarily think that carrying two keys is going to solve it, 608 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: because it can also be you know, that chip can 609 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: die in the key. That could be a problem with 610 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: the key itself, but there can be also a problem 611 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: with the lock cylinder, the wiring, I mean, all the electronics. 612 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: Anything can put these cars into an anti theF no 613 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: start like anything to put these cars into a no 614 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: start conditioned period one of the things. And and keys 615 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: are getting to be a real pain in the neck. 616 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: And you know, one of the things to keep in 617 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: mind is that UM keys and and powertrain control modules 618 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: are are working hand in hand on on on Monday, 619 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: Monday or Tuesday this week coming, I've got a flash 620 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: a Ford PCM. We're putting a PCM and a tourist 621 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: I think it is or a fusion or something for 622 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: another shop, and I told them, bring me the PCM, 623 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: bring me all the keys for the car, because a 624 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: lot of times I put a PCM in. I've got 625 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: to relearn the keys for the the the um ANTI 626 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: theF system PATS it's called on a ford. So you know, 627 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: as a vehicle owner, be aware that when you take 628 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: your car and for service, don't be surprised as the 629 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: mechanics says, Hey, I need all the keys. I've got 630 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: to flash the computer. Um And I got in the 631 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: habit of asking even if I I'm not sure, because 632 00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: it makes it a whole lot easier at the time 633 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: of flash that you don't have to wait, you know, 634 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: an hour for somebody to run home and get me 635 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: the rest of the keys and then and then bring 636 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,959 Speaker 1: them in. But uh, great question, Tom, So just um. 637 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: You know, when I come back, I have one more 638 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: point about flashing keys. I gotta pull over and take this. 639 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: I want to tell you about the problems with getting keys. Mate. 640 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: That's a whole another conversation, ron and naming the car doctor. 641 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: Right your service. I'll be back right after this. Welcome 642 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: back rom nating the car doctor. If they continue the 643 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,959 Speaker 1: conversation about um uh anti FA systems. By the way, 644 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: I guess it's next Dot, We're gonna get away a 645 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: millennium nineties scan tool from the folks at launch launched 646 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: at USA dot com. All you need to do to 647 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: being a chance to win is eight five five five 648 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: zero zero, give us a call seven car doctor phone number, 649 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: and you know, ask a question. It's up to Tom 650 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: and Tony. They haven't nobody's hit their nerve yet, so 651 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: I guess whatever Tom and Tony are looking for in 652 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: the way of a winner. But we're giving away a 653 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: Millennium nineties scan tool next hour and it's um, you 654 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: know O b D two compliant and looking at vehicle 655 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: modules a bs um you know airbag. It does a 656 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: bunch of stuff. It's a it's top of the line 657 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: of the Millennium series. So it's a nice tool. Give 658 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: it away for the holidays. Um. Anti theft is where 659 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: I wanted to finish up real quick. Uh. You know, 660 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: it's gotten to the point now and it's been this 661 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: way for a while. If you want to get a 662 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: spare key made, you can't. And you gotta understand a 663 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: lot of phocos into anti theft and getting keys. And 664 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: you know, if you want to get keys made, you 665 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: have to go to the dealership. And if they don't 666 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: know you, you need your driver's license, you need the 667 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: vehicle registration. My understanding is the two half to match 668 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: or you've got to be able to prove that you're 669 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: the owner of the vehicle alright by some way, shape 670 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: or form, and only then will they manufacture a key 671 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: for you and or programming. So you know, keep that 672 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: in mind when you're when you're looking for keys or 673 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: you need to get keys made. And I guess the 674 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: real gist of it is, you know, if you're one 675 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: of those persons that the key breaks, oh, I've got 676 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: to spare at home. I'll just use that. You know, 677 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: the key breaks, and then two years goes by, and 678 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: now that other key, or three years goes by, and 679 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: that other key gets more worn out. What are you 680 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: gonna do with You know, you can't get keys made 681 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: at the drop of a hat anymore. It's it's a 682 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 1: project on just about anything, and it's it's not something 683 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 1: that you want to really leave to the last minute. 684 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: You have to assume that getting a key made for 685 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: a vehicle today is really part of maintenance. If if 686 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 1: a key breaks, and you know, one last thought, I 687 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: like said one more thought. One of the things I 688 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: hate to see people do the most is, hey, toss 689 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 1: me the keys, you know that plastic Here that key 690 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: that you're throwing from person to person, say here, take 691 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: my keys or I I hate it when I go 692 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 1: out to restaurants, and I watched the valet's tossing keys 693 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: around on some of these very expensive exotic cars. Those 694 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 1: keys are anywhere from two to a piece. All right, 695 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: he dropped that key and it shatters and and and 696 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: a half a dozen pieces that high quality, high grade plastic. 697 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,760 Speaker 1: Oh boy, isn't that going to be exciting? So food 698 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 1: for thought. Hey, until the next hour, I'm on any 699 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: of the car doctor reminding you, if the mechanics aren't expensive, 700 00:34:56,280 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: they're priceless, see it. Charles ch