1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Andre Martinez in Real Life podcast. Do we I mean, 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: do we welcome him? For everybody? Now we appreciate him, 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: and now he feels loved. But grudgingly my crew they're like, yeah, whatever, whatever, 4 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: he made us work on Sunday. He made us work 5 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: on Sunday, ushers. Let me tell you something. I came 6 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: to Vegas to see your show on Friday and Saturday. 7 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: I've been working so high, so Saturday I was going 8 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: to do nothing. I was gonna catch up on emails 9 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 1: and do nothing, and then I was going to come 10 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: into you on Sunday. Originally I went to the show 11 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: on Saturday, and I was I knew it was gonna 12 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: be good. You're Russia, You're always good. But there's something 13 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: really magical happening out here, right, Like it's different level goods. 14 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: We're greater than every other person who came out here 15 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: to interview. I wanted you to have an entire weekend experience, 16 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: thank you. So we start on Friday, and then why 17 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: do I Friday for a Sunday interview? I think you 18 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,959 Speaker 1: set me up for a whole weekend. Yeah, it's really magical, 19 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 1: but it is. It actually is magical, and not just 20 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: um in part, you know, you know, based off of 21 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: all of the hit records and the fact that we're 22 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: here just celebrating the years of music, celebrating twenty five 23 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: anniversary of My Way, but even some of the special 24 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: guests that come. Fat Joe came, the first stage, Joe 25 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: was here, it was was Donald Jones. Jones came, it 26 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: was Robin Thicke, Keep Sweat, and Teddy Riley. Yeah, so 27 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: I got like this this doughnut in the middle of 28 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: the show. It's like a special little moment for the 29 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: you know, the the the unknown to happen. Yeah you did. 30 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: I saw Chris Brown came. Yeah, it's like a moment 31 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: to give people their flowers also, but then also have 32 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: this like connection with them, with everybody and the world 33 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: specifically in Vegas, because it's supposed to be an accelerated 34 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: experience here, right. So for me, rather we've done records together, 35 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: or rather, um, we've just been friends for years, you know. 36 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: For me and Robin, we go back, you know, to 37 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: Confessions and the first time I ever met him, I 38 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,279 Speaker 1: was just so intrigued by his talent. So we finally 39 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: got a chance to work together. It's like a smoothness 40 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: Jesus about him, you know what I'm saying. And then 41 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: he but over the years, just building a relationship. I 42 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, there's no way possible. I'm gonna do 43 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: this onhe and not have you come out and just 44 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: share the love. And then the Face records right, all 45 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: of that. Yes, l A Read was in the house, 46 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: Mark Pitts was in the house. Danielle Jones, he would 47 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: La didn't see that show, but I was backstage talking 48 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: to Dan Ellen. I'm like, yo, dude, you realize how 49 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: important the face was for just the like the ground lane, 50 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: like we set the four plan for all of what 51 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: Atlanta is. That was plenty of people doing things, but 52 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: not quite as sophisticated as l A Reading baby Face 53 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: with the Face record, so being able to celebrate him. 54 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 1: I mean, if I could get everybody up here to 55 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: be great, but you know, we are the motown of 56 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: the South. So I was like, yeo, I want us 57 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: to be, you know, remembered, and I want the audience 58 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: in the world to be able to see and share 59 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: in that moment, rather they know the songs or whether 60 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: they now will go back and understand Oh wait a minute. 61 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,839 Speaker 1: Usher used to he worked with Doniel Jones his first out. 62 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: Yeah he did. And that's kind of how Motown was, right, 63 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: they all helped each other rather they pitched him by 64 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: way of song or by way of you know, production, 65 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: or even choreography. Right, So you know that's a that's 66 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: a little bit of that. And I love that you 67 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: took so seriously the thought of like bringing Atlanta to 68 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: Vegas or without a question. Hey look, everybody else brings 69 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: that culture, you know what I'm saying. You got like 70 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: South American culture through you know, such Sola and all 71 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: of those incredible shows here and the strip teases. We 72 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: know what that is for the world, but you don't 73 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: know what it's like until you go to Atlanta, you 74 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: know what I mean. People want to know what it 75 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: feels like to make it rain. By by the way 76 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: it was, it was it was partially my mom's concept 77 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: and not just she was like, you gotta make it rain. 78 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: So I was like, okay, all right, we're gonna say 79 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: so to bring Atlanta's culture the same way that these 80 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: other theatrical shows do the same thing in Las Vegas. 81 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: I wanted it to be our culture, you know what 82 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: I'm saying. For me, I was like you know, I'm 83 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: an under promise and over delivered for this one one. 84 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: That's what my entire career has always been. And this 85 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: time I really get a chance to just celebrate and 86 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: do some things that I wanted to do. You know, 87 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: I want to try things that I've never tried before. 88 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: I want to celebrate culture in a way that you know, 89 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: preserves it and gives it a sophistication, in a way 90 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 1: that you know, for people who have never been to 91 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: a club like that, they know what it feels like, 92 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: who have heard the music, but they don't know the culture. Obviously, 93 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: we were, you know, inching up on the twenty five 94 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: you know, year anniversary from my way, So the celebration 95 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: of all those songs, it is a surprise for me 96 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: every night to go out there and here my original fans, 97 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: who something I met when they were eleven years old, 98 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: now adults with kids of their own. So this is 99 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: that moment to like kind of relive our child hood, 100 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: but also to get sophisticated. Come see something fly sexy, 101 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: eat something nice. Whether you come out here along by yourself, 102 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: you didn't leave alone, you know what I'm saying. Whither 103 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: you came out here with your significant other, just the girl. 104 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: The second night there was a girl was the first 105 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: night there was a girl sitting next to us, and 106 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: she was by herself. She looked gorgeous. She came, she 107 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: got dressed, and she got her seat and she just 108 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: sat there, had an amazing time. Yes, it's really beautiful 109 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: to look out there and see y'all, you know, all 110 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: those beautiful women. Man, it's like I'm outnumbered here. It's 111 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: like where the guys, you know what I'm saying. Where 112 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: it's like girls everywhere, And I'm like, it's cool, it's great, 113 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: it's great. But um, just to celebrate you know, in 114 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: many different you know mediums, not just the show, but 115 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: also to the memes and all the other things that 116 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: have happened as a result of like just getting back 117 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: to the basics. I think I tried for so long, 118 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: and you know, and every time I put out an 119 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: album there's some meaning or purpose behind it. I really, 120 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: you know, had you know, kind of been in this 121 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: in this you know analysis paralysis thing that is all 122 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: about trying to create the next moment the music. Right, 123 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: So for me, it was like, let's stop for two seconds, 124 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: let's not put out an album because I had been 125 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: putting out records here and there, and these songs were great. 126 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: I did a record with elm May you know a 127 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: couple of records dropped during the pandemic, and I was 128 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: just like, yeo, I just really want to go back 129 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: and celebrate the classic music for two seconds and enjoy 130 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: all of the years. I never get a chance to 131 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: do that because I'm always focused. That's what it is. 132 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: Because I was trying to put my finger on the 133 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: feeling of because this this this FEELM felt like a 134 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: victory lap. It feels like a you know, we all 135 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: we all come up and we're all chasing things that 136 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: we're all working so hard and trying to come up 137 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: with the next thing. And what you're saying, I create 138 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: and create it. But then you get to a point 139 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: in your career where you're like comfortable and you're enjoying them. 140 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: I feel like I watched you do that this show, 141 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: like you you just rocking your crown like comfortably. Well, 142 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: when you've been doing it as long as I have, 143 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: part of it is analyzing it being perfect, But when 144 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: you finally just stopped for two seconds and maybe look 145 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: at all of the things that you've done that's a 146 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: lot to celebrate, and no one man is an island. 147 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: You know these songs either. You know, we produced it 148 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: together with other producers and writers and the creators that 149 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: really helped me, you know, kind of curate the entire show. 150 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: I think we were mindful of all that. Even where 151 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: we're right now, like this whole immersive experience where you know, 152 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: you begin to understand the world of where it came from. 153 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: That wall over there and normally is like full of 154 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: footage and things for me when I was a kid, 155 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: you know, my first talent show, you know, nineteen ninety 156 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: one footage of me at Atlanta talent search in Atlanta, 157 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: you know, and then just going through our the entire process. 158 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think I have kind of um had 159 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: the opportunity to to to to celebrate. I ain't resting, 160 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: but I'm really celebrating the past, the music, the history 161 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: that I've been able to create. Seem like having fun. 162 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: I'm having fun one because I'm I'm choosing to. The 163 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: second half is I'm happy. Actually, I've never really taking 164 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: the time to stop and really you know, be happy. 165 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: I feel like my relationships are in a really good place. 166 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm learning how to communicate better. How 167 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: do you do that? How did you do that? What 168 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: do you what do you attribute all of this too? Um? Listening, 169 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: You can hear somebody, but are you really listening? You know, 170 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: when you when you slow down and you begin to 171 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: understand what's priority. Family is priority to me. Love, real 172 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: love is priority to me. And I've had enough difficult 173 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: situations in my life to now be able to assess 174 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: the people who are really there for some reason there's 175 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 1: an agenda, and then the people who really love me, 176 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: whom I should love and I should appreciate, and I 177 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: can take my time and enjoy and celebrate with some 178 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: of those people I'm working with on this show. Some 179 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: of these people I don't work with, but there with 180 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: me and we're able to just talk. Some people I've 181 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: worked with but we no longer worked together, but now 182 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: we can just enjoy our relationship. You know. UM, a 183 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: lot of therapy that I was wondering that sounds like 184 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: this therapy, And yeah, there is, and some people are 185 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 1: a bit it's a bit complicated for people who out 186 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: there who probably analyze, you know, allowing someone to sit 187 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: in and listen to your conversation and try to help 188 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: you here your partner or here you know, your family 189 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: member or here. Really what you're suffering is all about 190 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: And um, I think a lot of that has to 191 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: do with my happiness. I think a lot of um, 192 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: you know, my feeling is confident and is exciting, is 193 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: having great partnership. I got an amazing partner in life, 194 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: Jennifer Goycha. She asked if I wanted Puerto Rican food 195 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: before we started. Yeah, actually Puerto Rican food. And I 196 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: was like, and then I'm going to tell you this 197 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: to what I have. My glam comes to the hotel 198 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: before I came here, and I guess they must do 199 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: glam for the show. Also, Yeah, and they were saying 200 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: how much that gen takes care of everyone on the set, Like, yeah, 201 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: it just takes care of everybody. They just were gushing 202 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: about her, how much they loved her. I was happy 203 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: to know that you have somebody in your life that 204 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: is that loved by your you know, yeah, everybody, and 205 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: my mom will like her and love her too, and 206 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: that's great, said she liked her. He that's hard to 207 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: accomplish that to those two things, but something had to 208 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: change in you to be able to even be open 209 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: to that. You had to, You had to shift something right. 210 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: Sometimes you go through ship to get to ship. You 211 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, You go through something to get 212 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: to something in life. Um, good friend of mine D J. Rogers, 213 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 1: used to say this to me all the time. It's like, Yo, 214 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: there were no harmps in life, there'd be nothing to 215 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: get over. Like God, Man, it's hard now I get it. 216 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: You live long enough, you begin to understand and as 217 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 1: I said, prioritize what makes you know love lesson you 218 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: learned in terms of like, um, just correct self correction, 219 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 1: self correction, I think, I think loving yourself and forgiving yourself, 220 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: you know, for whatever you you know may have you know, 221 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: wanted to accomplish and didn't you know, whatever you may 222 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: have wanted to do and you didn't get you didn't 223 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: get a chance to do it, or whatever you wanted 224 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: to have and you didn't have. Sometimes we'll place that 225 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: blame out. We'll look out when you take two seconds 226 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: to really, you know, be alone and look in the mirror. 227 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: Ain't nobody else there but you and that other person 228 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: in the mirror. So that means that's the one you 229 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: gotta get right. You know what, I'm saying, And you 230 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: gotta trust yourself. You gotta listen to yourself, and you 231 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: gotta believe without you know, any impression of what you 232 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: think that you might need to be doing based off 233 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: of what you're looking at or what someone else has, 234 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: how do you feel? And no matter what level you're 235 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: playing at, it you take the time to deal with 236 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: him or her in that mirror verse, you'll be a 237 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: better person. Accountability, accountability, patience with self too, because I 238 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: think you know, yeah, yes, yeah, yeah, we do things 239 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: for other people. We don't that we don't give ourselves 240 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: the same grace and the same kind of like patience, 241 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: and well we're all out here looking for something else 242 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: and not able to you know, be single along, be 243 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 1: single long enough to that sound crazy, you're saying that 244 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: because I'm never single long enough to even, but some 245 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: people are single for I had that feel for you 246 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: in those two months. Man, I was crazy. It was good. 247 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: But when good is what I got, what you got better. 248 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 1: It's funny seeing you on that stage roles and all 249 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: that energy, and I was like, I wonder how that 250 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: is to be in a relationship. Well, you clearly you 251 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: like you like a relationship I'm never like not single. 252 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: That did you like love? Right, I'm never single, I'm 253 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: I asked I love love. I'm just looking bad at it. 254 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You're getting better though, I'm 255 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: getting better, you know what I'm saying. Good partnership definitely, 256 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 1: you know, breeds great things. You know. Yeah, but if 257 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: you're not ready, it doesn't matter. The greatest person in 258 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: the world, if you can't contribute to it, it's not 259 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: gonna It starts with you self accountability again, you know, 260 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: when you're able to take that time and deal with yourself. 261 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: I'm curious what you can be happy with anybody. You 262 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. If I'm thinking about myself in 263 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: terms of therapy and all of that, the things that 264 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: one am I had to be accountable for, like saying 265 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 1: what I want was like a thing for me, Like 266 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: you know, like do you think somebody else should know 267 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: what you need or what you want? And yeah, that 268 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: was the thing I wonder for you? Like what was 269 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: your thing that you had to fix about you? Um, 270 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: I'm perfect what you're talking about not perfect? It might 271 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: be perfect now, by the way, self listen. One having 272 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: a partner who be honest with you, brutally honest with you, 273 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 1: and you can take that constructive criticism because you know 274 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: what comes from a good place and you've spent enough 275 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: time your friends enough and you've established trust. Trust is 276 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: the main, you know, component to happiness and success in 277 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: a relationship, being able to actually hear each other and 278 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: speak up. It's hard, right to to even know what 279 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: you really want and what really matters. I think most 280 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: of the time you we all just want to be heard. Yeah. 281 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: You know a lot of people when you say trust, 282 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: they assume because I know what you mean. Because some 283 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: people think trust means trust my partner not to cheat 284 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: or do this, or trust it. But it's also like 285 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: you have to trust somebody. Those things can become trivial, 286 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: you know, because you have to trust somebody able to 287 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: receive their information. Love, you have to trust their intentions. 288 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: You have to trust is way bigger than just whatever 289 00:14:55,600 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: people normally connected with. Yeah, trust her to tell you, hey, 290 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: that was whack or you don't like whatever the thing? 291 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: What however she I said, how I would say, yeah, 292 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: whatever the putoc you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I 293 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: don't know about that, playboy. But you have to trust 294 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: to be able to let somebody say that to you 295 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: and know and be okay with it. Yeah, Um, I 296 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: don't know about that, playboy. Well, again, just being able 297 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: to hear each other, Um, being able to I'm trying 298 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: to find the exact word of what it's called take 299 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: your time, your time the the idea and by the way, 300 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: ain't it's not like a a perfect thing, right, But 301 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: when you're in a relationship with someone and they're talking, 302 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: but you don't really get a chance to hear what 303 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: they're saying because you're trying to get your point across, 304 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: they're trying to get their point across, and by the 305 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: end of conversation, you've just been trying to fight your 306 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: one point as opposed to actually hearing each other. Right. 307 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: So in exercise that I've I've I've managed to work 308 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: into life, not just relationship and love, but life period. Um, 309 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: if you give me what it is that you're your 310 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: issue is, and I hear it, and then I'm able 311 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: to repeat it back to you before I respond, Right, 312 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm feeling like I don't know. Yeah, whatever 313 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: it is you didn't listen to me last night, You 314 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: ain'try because I didn't listen to you last night. This 315 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: is good exercise. This is therapy one. And then and 316 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: then you ask what else? Right? Is there? More? Is 317 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: there more? They give you more. You repeat back verbatim, 318 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: so that I know this exercise from therapy. It works, 319 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: but you actually use it, you do it. It actually works. 320 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: It resolves issues and it gets to the point, especially 321 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: when a person is nervous, because it's like, Okay, I 322 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: got a few sects to try to get a word 323 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: in and try to figure out how to get my 324 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: point or either, and then it turns into this argument 325 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: where I'm gonna one up you. Then you start insulting 326 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 1: each other. Okay, now I'm gonna one up you in 327 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: an insult and then before you know it, one party 328 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: can walk away and nothing's resolved. I didn't hear you, 329 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: You didn't hear me. We didn't get to any good 330 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: point of communication. So how can we now get to 331 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: a successful place where we're happy because we're gonna have 332 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: to sleep in the bed together, or to be around 333 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: the kids, or be around each other and do business together, 334 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: whatever it might be. But to be able to perception 335 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: check is what it's called. That's it to because the 336 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: perception to perception check greater than just hearing what you're saying, 337 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: to have a perception of exactly what it is you're saying, 338 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: and then repeat it, pervade him. You can't say you 339 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: didn't hear me because you repeated it to me one 340 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: rice feed therapy. By the way, and this ship really 341 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: does work. You're welcome. It's free game and a relation. 342 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: You want a successful relationship, you try this. I'm telling 343 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: you it's gonna work. Is then more she gives it 344 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: to you? Is there more by the time she's resolved 345 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: whatever her issue is smaller because it probably is something 346 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: much smaller than you whatever imagine it would be. And 347 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: maybe as a man, I'm insulted that you've even talking 348 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: to me the way you're talking to me. But if 349 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 1: I get past all of that and not just hear you, 350 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:20,959 Speaker 1: we get to the end of it. Now we're at 351 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: the end of it. Nine times out of ten, I 352 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: won't even have a rebuttal or a reason to try 353 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 1: to come back at it. Sometimes you just want to 354 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: be heard. Sometimes you just want And by the way, 355 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: vice versa, women have to they have to try it 356 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: the same way for men because sometimes it might be 357 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 1: You know, it's hard for a guy to be vulnerable 358 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: and really tell you the ship that he's going through 359 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: as a man, any man, he has a hill to climb, 360 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 1: just I mean especially black man or minority men, men, 361 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 1: minorities in America and whatever minority group you choose to 362 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: stand with, right, It's hard. Right. So now I'm at 363 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: home and my house is supposed to be in order, 364 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: and I gotta be able to talk to you and 365 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: tell you exactly what I feel, be vulnerable with you, 366 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: only you. I gotta fight the rest of the world, 367 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: but I want to be able to really talk to 368 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: you and talk to you, tell you exactly what I'm feeling. 369 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: And you say, is there anything else? And I have 370 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: to think about it. I give you what else. Hopefully 371 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: you don't take too long. But if you eventually get 372 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: to a place you heard then and you're you're heard, 373 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 1: don't just yes, well no, don't just hear me like no, 374 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: don't just listen to me you say that, right, don't 375 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: just listen to me, really hear me. In process perception 376 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 1: check with each other. That's one gift, that's one lesson 377 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: that I feel like really helps us. That is not 378 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: a small thing. It's really hard to because the opposite 379 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: of that, just for anybody who's never been to therapy. Right, So, hey, 380 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: this bothers me, and then you feel you have to defend, 381 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: you feel attacked. So now you're engaging in war that 382 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: you can't win because neither one of you feels heard 383 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: or feels, you know, like it's no connection. So that's 384 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: normally what happens when people arguing. Well, by the way, 385 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: if you're dealing with the selfest part selfish partner, then 386 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: that might be an indication that this partner ain't for you. Right. 387 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 1: I'm not saying perception check with an idiot. I'm not 388 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: saying perception check with a person who's just selfish and 389 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: can't you know, allow you to have at least some 390 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 1: space to be able to be heard. I mean, these 391 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: are signs. Right in the event that the signs are 392 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: telling you it's not right, maybe you should listen. Oh 393 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: that's good. Yeah, sure, I'm so happy for you. I'm 394 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 1: happy for me to write happy for you. Everybody's I 395 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: don't know, you're in a good it's so good and 396 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: it's obvious. Thank you. I've seen you perform. You're always 397 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: great on stage. But you're like happy up there and 398 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: it resonates it different you know what we feel it. 399 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: I feel it because I know you. I don't know, 400 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: but I feel it. I'm sure other people tell you 401 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: this too. Yeah, it is the ability to have peace 402 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 1: right and not feel as though I have to prove anything. 403 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 1: I think that we all go through that I have 404 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 1: to prove something. That's what I want to ask you 405 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: about you having it because I feel like even you 406 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: as a kid coming up in this business and having 407 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: all this talent that you had, I feel like we 408 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: look at Michael Jackson and he was probably somebody you 409 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: probably looked at Michael's career. This is the goal, right, 410 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: This is the This is from what I know of 411 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: you and from your career. Um, do you ever feel 412 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: like you've reached that for yourself? Whatever that thing was. 413 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 1: I think everybody has their own stories. Some people start 414 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: later in their life, so they've had the opportunity to 415 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: live out certain experiences, gather what they feel about life, 416 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: have ambition, be ambitious, you know, have integrity or not 417 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: figure it out? Hook a crew, how you get there, 418 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: and then the career starts. For me, it started before 419 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: I had any of those experiences. No, I'm not quite 420 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: like Michael, but I got my own experience and I 421 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 1: have my own history, and I think it started by 422 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: someone else's interpretation of me. Right again, we all have this, 423 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: your kid, and we all have to be brought up. 424 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: So long as you're able to look at every experience 425 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: as a great one, good or bad, it'll work out 426 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: for you, don't You just be all right with the yeses. 427 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: Don't just be okay with the winds, except your losses, 428 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: except your moments that are perceived to be losses, to 429 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: only make you better for the future. Rather, you know, man, 430 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 1: it was a really difficult start, and you know I 431 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: had to make so many sacrifices in the beginning. Great 432 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: that you did, because now you can appreciate this moment 433 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: where you're standing on the mountaintop. But it's hard. It's 434 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: hard to to do that when you're in the middle 435 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: of it. I part of it is my upbringing. I'm 436 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: very happy that my mother raised me and my brother 437 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: the way that she did. Um, I'm really happy that 438 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: I had some elders in my life and also to 439 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:52,239 Speaker 1: mentors um that are still there, consigiliaries that you know 440 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 1: are there to be able to yeah, to be able 441 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 1: to help you really understand, and then life is as 442 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 1: much as you choose to explore and educate yourself. You 443 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: ain't ship. You can't read right now. So if you 444 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: can take the time to sit down and and understand 445 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 1: what a person's life was, where they started, what this 446 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: story is, and gather something from it. Um But if 447 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: you are fortunate to have mentors, if you're fortunate enough 448 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 1: to have friends that will keep it real with you, 449 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: that will be with you through thick and thin, then 450 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: hopefully you know it'll lead you in the right direction. 451 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: But you know, part of that madness, if we look 452 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: at Michael's life and you use him as an example, 453 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: all of being in that made him the genius that 454 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: he is. You know, being in New York City with 455 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: Biggie and Puff when he first started Bad Boy Records, 456 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 1: and kind of being in the midst of you know, 457 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 1: him working on my album with l A. Reid as 458 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: he employed him to give me whatever it was swag. 459 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: It kind of dimmed the light that was my own 460 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: and gave me something. It gave me hustle, It gave 461 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: me tenacity and gave me you know, that man gave 462 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: me focus, because there ain't nobody more focused and got 463 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: more hustle than puff like in order to understand how 464 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 1: to get it, and also to motivate everybody around him 465 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: to drive at their best. If you ain't running at 466 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: a hundred, you ain't working with me. Get where I'm 467 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 1: at and then we'll see what we're talking about. Otherwise, 468 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: get what you can and I'll see you later. You'll 469 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 1: thank me later. But for real, that guy right there 470 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 1: had he was a motivator, and um, you know, everything 471 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: that I was able to pick up, I did manage 472 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 1: to use at some point. No, my first album wasn't 473 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: the most wildly successful album, but when I play it 474 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: out there, I got day one fans that love it 475 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 1: and rather they go back and they are a part 476 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: of it. And I feel fortunate to be able to 477 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: you know, have have those you know, those those songs 478 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: and those moments. But I really found my way to 479 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,959 Speaker 1: my own light when I got to my way. You know, 480 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 1: I think too the thing I was thinking about, like, 481 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: I put you in a category of greats. Right, I'm 482 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,160 Speaker 1: sure a lot of people do do you do for yourself? 483 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: Do you think of yourself that way? Yeah? Right? You 484 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: have to think of yourself. But some people would perceive 485 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 1: that as like, you know, being arrogant conceded. Yeah, it's 486 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: this is a basketball game in life, right if that's 487 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: a football, this is a football game in life. If 488 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: I go out on this field and I'm like tiptoeing around, 489 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: You're gonna knock my block off. I'm trying to get 490 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: to the hoop and I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go 491 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: through you. I'm gonna get through you to get where 492 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: I gotta go. You know what I'm saying. Like a 493 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,719 Speaker 1: basketball player, the goal is the championship for the rings 494 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: or whatever the thing is. It's one shot at a time. Really, 495 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: it's one shot at a time. And understanding team ball. 496 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: That's that's basketball. For music is similar. No one man 497 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: is an island. It's understanding that collaboration is important. But 498 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 1: you gotta believe this ship. You gotta believe that, Yo, 499 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: I can do this. Anything I put my mind to, 500 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: I can make it. I can do it. To be 501 00:25:58,359 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: an artist, you have to be a little bit delusion. 502 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: You have to be a little nuts. Yeah, yeah, that's true. 503 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: You have to because you're thinking of it before anybody else. 504 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 1: So didn't exist before you thought of it. So you 505 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: have to be able to think about something and not 506 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: only are you thinking of it, but you're hating it. 507 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: You're creating it in real time, and more than likely 508 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: it's driving you crazy because it's in your mind and 509 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: no one else can see it. So you got to 510 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: manage to motivate, push the envelope, push yourself, and push 511 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: everybody around you to believe what you see. You know, 512 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 1: it's so good, but when you look at the grates 513 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: sometimes it makes them crazy. Chasing this. You're chasing m J, 514 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: or you're chasing whatever. If you're basketball player, you're chasing 515 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: Lebron or Jordan or whatever it is. Do you feel like, 516 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: next to m J, next to all the grades, that 517 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: you are there or are you still chasing a version 518 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: of that for yourself? Being able to walk in their 519 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: footsteps was the first thing. So I followed them, I 520 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: studied them, I trained the way they trained. I pushed 521 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: myself the way they put themselves. You know, I analyzed 522 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 1: what I knew versus what I didn't, and tried to 523 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: speak to a more broader audience and tried to reach 524 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: and reach and keep going. And it started here. But 525 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: then they managed to get here. Not the same style 526 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: of music, not the same genres, not the same production, 527 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: not but the same amount of commitment for me. Yeah, 528 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: because I've been carrying their torch, because I've been standing 529 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: on their shoulders. Now I'm in a position where I 530 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 1: look forward and now hopefully somebody's coming behind me standing 531 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 1: on my shoulder. Isn't gonna push it forward? Yeah, I'll 532 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: accept that. Yes, that that, by the way, was always 533 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: the plan. It was never to be big as Michael, 534 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: it was never to be big as Bobby, it was 535 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: never to be big as Stevie. I just wanted the journey. 536 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: I wanted to get there. I wanted to manage to 537 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: every day have someplace to go and someone to care 538 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: about me being there. Are actually going for it right 539 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: when you create, like, okay, I just have to have 540 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: this thing. I want the money. When you get the money, 541 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: what you're gonna do? You made it about the money. 542 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: It's over now. But when the journey is the destination, 543 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 1: you never stop reaching. I don't know if I ever stopped. 544 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: And so long as I'm able to be happy in 545 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: doing it, and hopefully you know, my fans will continue 546 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: to carry me in that process. And celebrate what I'm making. UM. 547 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 1: But the reason why I say that is because I 548 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: feel like I'm carrying a standard right greater than the 549 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: points that I'm putting on the board. The performers that 550 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: they were, the fact that their mikes were actually on 551 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: and they were dancing and singing and performing and giving 552 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: and leaving it on the stage. That's what I picked 553 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: up from them, and I want to make sure that 554 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: this generation doesn't forget about that part. Because it's easy 555 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: to just put your TV track on or either your 556 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: song on, go up and had a DJ just rocket 557 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: in that SI and the crowd likes it and it's fine, 558 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: and you gotta do the work. You gotta put the 559 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: work in. All the young cats, you know, I know 560 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: all of them better. Fact, you're so good with them. 561 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: I was wondering how much of that is, Like I 562 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: don't close my daughter nobody. You know what I'm saying. 563 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: I'm big bro in that way, UNC whatever you wanna 564 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: call me. I give the information because it's important for 565 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: us to continue to keep the legacy moving forward. Nobody 566 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: should call you. I mean, some of them young enough 567 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: to you know what I'm saying. I don't feel like 568 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: you on status yet I mean, I don't feel like 569 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: nowhere near it, you know what I'm saying. But I 570 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: don't feel like you got a lot to do. I know, 571 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: but I feel like you have. You should have comfort 572 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: in knowing that if you did nothing else, which I 573 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: know you will do more if you did nothing else, 574 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: like you've done enough. Do you feel like that? I 575 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: always feel like there's more, of course, yeah, But um, 576 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: but this comfort and knowing the comfort in owing, um, 577 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: it's part of it. But not feeling as though you 578 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: have to prove something. That's what I think I hear 579 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: you saying. Do I feel like I have to prove 580 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: something to anybody? No, I'm in my own light, and 581 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: I got my own ideas, and I'm and I'm pushing forward. 582 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: And again it's the integrity of what it is that 583 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: I collected in my life from these incredible grates that 584 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: now has made me who I am. So now I 585 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: can just be who I am. You can follow it. 586 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: It ain't gonna be easy. I ain't making it easy 587 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: for you, of course not. And then points do matter 588 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: in that light, you know what I'm saying. But you're competitive, 589 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: You're competitive a little bit, yeah, A little bit watch 590 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: what other people are doing, and they're people that are 591 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: inspiring you or or you just I'm encouraged. I don't 592 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: know that I'm you know, yeah, I'm I'm I'm I'm encouraged. 593 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: There are things that do inspire me because you know, 594 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: as I think, you know, our culture changes, um and 595 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: it flips, you know, music, R and B, rhythm and blues, 596 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: rather it turned into hip hop. Rhythm and blues to 597 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: me is the base of it all, jazz before rhythm 598 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: and blues. It's really the base of it all. And 599 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: that was just this ever morphing thing based off of 600 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: the persons in interpretation of it, an instrument that they 601 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: picked up, or how they chose to use their instrument. 602 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: Rather they it was spoken word and they were spitting 603 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: you know, bars, or rather it was you know Miles 604 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: through a horn, or rather it was you know, Jimmy 605 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: hendrick S through a guitar. You know. So for me 606 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: being able to contribute to any of it in this time, 607 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: I'm happy, um, rather legendary status. I'm carrying the torch 608 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: of everything that I have seen and the things that 609 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: I loved about them had everything to do with integrity, 610 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 1: had everything integrity for the music. Uh, and integrity for 611 00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: the art and the legendary. That's exactly what I was 612 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: trying to get to. Yeah you got you did it. Yeah, 613 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: I don't know why I feel so hard, Like how 614 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: I feel so hard just accepting that? Yeah, what is that? 615 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. Is there a moment 616 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: I think something in our history. I'm sure you are alleged, 617 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: thank you, Yeah I did that, but I'm but I'm 618 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: telling you something in our history alone, the process is 619 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: like you'll be humble, like, yeah, be humble, would be 620 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: proud that you can even do any of it, because 621 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: that's part of what's driving it, you know this, And 622 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: it's also if you take yourself out of the equation, 623 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: because I think we're all here to share our gifts 624 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: with people, to write so that other people can take 625 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: from whatever they take from us. The fact that you 626 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: are a legend and you have built that, it's inspiring. 627 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: It brings joy to people. So if you don't acknowledge 628 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: and accept that, it's almost like you're not even giving 629 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: it to the you know what I mean, you don't 630 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: even allow the people to fully feel that. So what 631 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: part of it is this the idea that something is 632 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: going to be taken away from you in a moment's time. 633 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: Never know, But my point is it could be something 634 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: right that comes from you being a young kid coming up, 635 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: always trying to have a hit. No, that's life. Trying 636 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: to be hot, be not hot, that's life because in 637 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: the Okay, let's say it's one record that is not 638 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: as successful as the other records. Should I now not 639 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: look at you as a legend That happens with artists? 640 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,719 Speaker 1: I think yes, But I think you have finally transcended that. 641 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: I think there are certain artists that if you never 642 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: make another record, or if you put out twenty horrible records, 643 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: it does not negate the legendary status that you've created. 644 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: That is not a thing that many people can claim. 645 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: It's a handful of artists that are still relevant, that 646 00:33:56,040 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: are still active, that could claim that status. Yeah, that's 647 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: it's a beautiful thing. Don't argue with me about I 648 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: ain't argue. I ain't argue. Did you hear what I said? 649 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: Thank you? Is there anything? Is there anything else? Is 650 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: there anything more? Using our exercise and listening. No, it's amazing, 651 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 1: it's amazing. It seems inspiring Man, it's to me what 652 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: makes the show so special because it's like you feel 653 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: that like it's just whatever we should talk about that 654 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: I saw this and was it the doc or is 655 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: it the master class thing when you talked about prepping 656 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 1: for a show like this that you do meditate with 657 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: the dancers and the crew and ye is that something 658 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 1: you is that new in your life that they so 659 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:41,280 Speaker 1: since therapy before, actually, transcendental meditation was the first entrance 660 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: into meditation for me, and then other you know, forms 661 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,479 Speaker 1: of meditation. Um. I really picked up as I begin 662 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: to kind of, you know, just invest in this idea 663 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,800 Speaker 1: of mental health and how we sustain being able to 664 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: talk to someone, having a therapist or either someone who 665 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: is of sound mind to be able to share and 666 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: you can be vulnerable and have trust with is important. 667 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 1: But then there are things that we can do to 668 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 1: really help foul um. You know, our thinking and all 669 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: the things that we're collecting. Meditation is how I do that. 670 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: Trans Transcendental meditation was the first way of doing it. 671 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 1: It was like, you know, basically a mantra, it's a word, 672 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: and then you kind of, you know, my therapist keeps 673 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: trying to get me to do it, and I just 674 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: want to. Silence is the hardest thing for any of 675 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 1: us to cope with, especially thinkers and incredible people, legendary 676 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:40,399 Speaker 1: people like yourself. You want to get. It's so bad, 677 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: believe it or not. Though transidental meditation teaches you not 678 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: to run from that, right. But again, there are other 679 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 1: deeper forms of medication, meditation, meditation that um manages to 680 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: really hit. But by the way, medication versus meditation, no 681 00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: medication versus meditation. I would always go with meditation. But 682 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 1: it's very hard, especially for people who have a great 683 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:08,320 Speaker 1: deal of pressure and expectation placed on them, because there's 684 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: this idea of having to live up to something and 685 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: you're then plagued with this activation of your brain. And 686 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: you now managed to get it in this place where 687 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: it's just constantly constantly throwing your ideas throwing you and 688 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 1: which which one sticks? And what should you do? What 689 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 1: shouldn't you do? Oh, I'm gonna just I feel this, 690 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:26,479 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it, and I don't do that. Don't 691 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 1: When you managed to slow it down and be in 692 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 1: silence with yourself, rather you meditate, and you had for 693 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: me it started off at five minutes and three intervals 694 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: throughout an entire day. Then I managed to get up 695 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: to twenty minutes. Twenty minutes is really there's a is 696 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,919 Speaker 1: a that's a standard. Twenty minutes three times a day, 697 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: three times a day. You gotta do it. Rather you 698 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: just choose manage to get up early enough to just 699 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 1: sit there in silence, even if your mind is going. 700 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: Just sit there in silence. Don't do anything. Don't pick 701 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 1: your phone up, don't answer the phone, don't respond to anybody, 702 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,839 Speaker 1: give yourself and what happens to you. You just you're 703 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: in a You're in a state right The most important 704 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,720 Speaker 1: part of our entire being is our state of being. 705 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: What state of being are you in? Are you suffering? 706 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 1: Are you not suffering? Those are the two states. There's 707 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: no other states to be in. You're the suffering or 708 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 1: you're not suffering. Is that it is real? It is 709 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 1: only two states a little. You're either suffering or you're not. 710 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: And if you managed, if you've managed to put yourself 711 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 1: in a beautiful state of being right where you're not suffering, 712 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,240 Speaker 1: then you can manage to allow of universe to actually 713 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: unfold for you. That's good because what's intended to happen. 714 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 1: Will You can try and funk it up as much 715 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: as you want to, but if it's intended to happen, 716 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 1: it's gonna keep coming around until you finally get it. 717 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,839 Speaker 1: You ever say, like, man, I knew something told me. 718 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: That's the universe is telling you. Moved this way, do this. 719 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: But if you're not in the right states, you're not 720 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 1: gonna catch it. You're not gonna see it. And if 721 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: you're constantly in this hectic state of mind and state 722 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 1: of being and suffering and trying to live or trying 723 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,399 Speaker 1: to do this, you ain't gonna get to it. That's 724 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 1: so good. Suffering or not suffering two states, that's it. 725 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 1: There's two states of being. Yes, that's it. You're either 726 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: a suffering state or not the suffering states. But if 727 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,840 Speaker 1: the answer is yes, I'm suffering, then what is the 728 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,319 Speaker 1: Then that's part of the problem. Okay, so now you 729 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: know you're suffering. Now let's get into why you are suffering. 730 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: You're begin to open it up, You're begin to understand. Man, 731 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 1: it was something that I had in my mind that 732 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 1: I thought I needed to fix as a kid, I 733 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 1: was three. I didn't know any difference any better, but 734 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,280 Speaker 1: that became employ of how I look at my entire life. 735 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: Somebody told me no, so it was always no. So 736 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 1: I always thought no. I always thought I couldn't do that, 737 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 1: or I thought I shouldn't do that, or that was 738 00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 1: the wrong thing to do. Is this deeper work? You 739 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It forces you to look at 740 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,760 Speaker 1: the why. It forces you to go back and speak 741 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,760 Speaker 1: to your your child sometimes, like get into the mind 742 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,879 Speaker 1: of where you're, where you were and when you picked 743 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 1: up some idea, and why are you're suffering? Is this 744 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 1: something you learned and something somebody taught you. It's something 745 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 1: that I've experienced and I managed to see for myself 746 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 1: in life through meditation, through you know, a great deal 747 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: of just patience with myself, studying, trying to get myself 748 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,399 Speaker 1: in a better state of being where I'm not walking 749 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 1: around just suffering all day. Were you suffering for a 750 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: long time? What was the cause of that? My suffering? 751 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 1: I think UM primarily is the expectation to live up 752 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: to something um or either something that was missing. Right. 753 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 1: I need to add something more to my life because 754 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 1: I'm not happy in this present moment. I gotta get 755 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,280 Speaker 1: to that other thing, you know, does help you define 756 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 1: it too, Right, if you if you don't even know 757 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 1: who you're recognize yourself, Frank, if you, I think more 758 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,879 Speaker 1: than likely, Um, all of us are kind of stuck 759 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,280 Speaker 1: in the suffering state. It's the state that you choose 760 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 1: to set yourself in. When you're actually meditating, you're more 761 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 1: than likely calm enough and out of to let you 762 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:20,479 Speaker 1: and I and this enables you right from being able 763 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,760 Speaker 1: to see what it is that you're dealing with. I'm frantic, 764 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,800 Speaker 1: I gotta just go figure out. Just but wait a minute, 765 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,879 Speaker 1: just slow down, just just stop for two seconds. Then 766 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,880 Speaker 1: you realize it's not as pressing as you thought it was. 767 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 1: I'm not even I don't know why I'm stressed out. 768 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,839 Speaker 1: I'm not even suffering. That's what it does to you, Right, 769 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,959 Speaker 1: do you have that thought like why am I even? 770 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 1: What can I do about it? Let me focus on 771 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:46,239 Speaker 1: the positive. I saw you telling the crowd that a 772 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 1: little bit on the first night of the show. You 773 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 1: told everybody turn their phones off to be in the moment, 774 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 1: and yeah, be present, be present, And then you said, 775 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: I don't want to sound like the old guy, old man, 776 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 1: or I forget what the word as I sound getting older, right, 777 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 1: And you know it's these mantras and things that older 778 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 1: people always coming up with, like these wise tales and 779 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying in the in the Land 780 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 1: of the Blind and whatnot? Man is king ship like that? 781 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,359 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, But I didn't. I didn't 782 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 1: want to, you know, serve it as rhetoric or either 783 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 1: anything like that. But yo, are we able to be 784 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 1: okay with no as much as we are with yes, 785 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 1: winds as much as we are with losses because they're 786 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: the same. We don't see it, but they are. I've 787 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 1: never heard it said like that. Hey, listen, if you manage, 788 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 1: I've heard you know you learn from your mistakes. Everything 789 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 1: is okay. Why would you? Everything is a process. You 790 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 1: learn from your I learned something from mama. But I've 791 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,840 Speaker 1: never heard Yes. It's the same as no. It should 792 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 1: be in our minds. We can't see it that way 793 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 1: because we're all kind of like looking for the win only. 794 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,720 Speaker 1: But there's measures, you know, there's measures in life. There's time, 795 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 1: there's there's a moment for everything, and nothing is happening 796 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:09,439 Speaker 1: by coincidence. Everything is intended to happen. You just don't 797 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 1: fight it if you choose or try to just gonna 798 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 1: make their process longer. So good. How are you doing 799 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,279 Speaker 1: with like, um, because it's just like growing USh right now? 800 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 1: How did you because you started so young, you're grown, 801 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 1: You're still you're still not uncle status. I wouldn't say 802 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 1: I am. I'm saying if you're like six years old, 803 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 1: are you're trying to you want to call me up? 804 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:38,319 Speaker 1: That's cool? Um? But how do you do? How how 805 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 1: have you dealt with age? Because because famous people and 806 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,759 Speaker 1: sometimes that challenging, especially when you start so young and 807 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 1: you looked at as a kid or you looked at 808 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,360 Speaker 1: as this young you know, and now you're like a 809 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 1: grown man four kids, Like, was there ever a weird 810 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: transition for you? And that? Yeah? I mean it became 811 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 1: painstakingly obvious when I had to deal with a thirteen 812 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 1: year old teen year old who you know or like 813 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: in need of parenting, and you know, as complicated as 814 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 1: it is to be our parents, we get it now 815 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 1: that we're on the other side of it. As an entertainer, 816 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 1: I don't know I think that uh in you know 817 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,359 Speaker 1: the eyes of my fans, I guess I'm as old 818 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 1: as the experience that they've had, rather they had it then, 819 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 1: or whether they're still having it now. So I don't 820 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 1: know if music is able to give you age in 821 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,840 Speaker 1: that way. I think if anything, it preserves your age 822 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,319 Speaker 1: because you go back to that moment. And for me, 823 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 1: I'm actually working my way back in it every time 824 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 1: i'm performing it. Rather i'm you know, doing a handstand 825 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 1: or you know, you're still moving trying to get the 826 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 1: body right in order to had that shirt off whatever, 827 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 1: you know what I'm doing any weird old man, you know, 828 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 1: sometimes the dance as you get older, it starts it 829 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 1: has a little some of my favorites the dance. A 830 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 1: little later on it starts to get well, you're showing 831 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,560 Speaker 1: no signs of that. Well, for the performance had always 832 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 1: been a major part of who I was, So it's 833 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 1: always kept me young because that's that was the fun 834 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,840 Speaker 1: part of it, you know. But not everybody makes that 835 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:16,320 Speaker 1: transition from child to young to grown comfortably, especially people 836 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 1: in the public eye. They fight it and we see 837 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 1: them fighting, and it's never it's always uncomfortable to watch it. 838 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,879 Speaker 1: But I don't think we've ever seen any kind of 839 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,239 Speaker 1: weird transition. Maybe internally you had one, but we didn't 840 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,239 Speaker 1: see it. You weren't like I think, if anything, that 841 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,440 Speaker 1: transition probably UM was difficult between me and my mom, 842 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 1: and very difficult because of our work relationship that then 843 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 1: became family relationship, right, And I think ultimately it had 844 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,239 Speaker 1: always just been about my mom wanting me to be 845 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:49,439 Speaker 1: the best or have the best or not go through 846 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,320 Speaker 1: any kind of pain, which is her own suffering. Because 847 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,279 Speaker 1: she's thinking about what she went through and not looking 848 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 1: at me for where I am suffering. She must be 849 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 1: proud now. She's very rout now because she understands that Um, 850 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 1: no matter what she may have wanted, what was intended 851 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 1: to happen, would we were always going to be good. 852 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 1: We're always going to get be be where we were, 853 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 1: and our relationship as mother and son is more important 854 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 1: than anything. And now we can have all the other stuff. 855 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 1: And she got these grand babies, and she got grand babies, 856 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:28,360 Speaker 1: and she got to deal with four Yeah, and she 857 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,359 Speaker 1: loves the other model. Of course they do. I hear 858 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,960 Speaker 1: it's easier to be a grandparents, more fun being a grandparents. 859 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,080 Speaker 1: You get to do all the fun stuff. Yeah, until 860 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:42,319 Speaker 1: you meet Sinko, my oldest son, he's fourteen. Yeah. But 861 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,360 Speaker 1: now they have their code. I don't know if I 862 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,600 Speaker 1: go through the thing with grandma the way normal. You know, 863 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,719 Speaker 1: everybody else says, you know when grandparents get their kids, 864 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,279 Speaker 1: they just let them get away with everything. Because my 865 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 1: mom she still want it. Yeah, she's still she's still 866 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:03,719 Speaker 1: on it. Yeah. How's being a a dad changed you? Uh? 867 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,279 Speaker 1: And a new in a recent kind of girl dad now? 868 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,959 Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, girl dad has definitely made me soft. 869 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 1: I was just in a jumping house, no socks. Yeah, 870 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,759 Speaker 1: I went pumping patching. Yeah, by the way, I did 871 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 1: it with my boys too, But with your daughter is 872 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,240 Speaker 1: a different thing. Like I'm literally walking her through everything 873 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:29,560 Speaker 1: and trying to make sure I'm I'm the bodyguard you. 874 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,759 Speaker 1: You're on stage last night, then he was at the 875 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,600 Speaker 1: after party, and then he was at the pumpkin patch 876 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 1: pumpkin patching and getting ready for school. You know they yep, 877 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,920 Speaker 1: you got what you need. You know, noticed something yesterday? 878 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,359 Speaker 1: You miss class and I didn't miss class. That was tutoring. Okay, 879 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:45,799 Speaker 1: got it great. Just want to make sure I let 880 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,919 Speaker 1: you know, I see it. What's going on here? You're 881 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,719 Speaker 1: on it? Yeah, of course you gotta be. You know 882 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:53,560 Speaker 1: what I'm saying that my responsibilities as a dad is 883 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 1: more important than anything that I do here. You know, 884 00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,440 Speaker 1: that's what changed me to be able to say that 885 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 1: I could be you know that for my kids, I 886 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:08,840 Speaker 1: suffered a long time, you know, analyzing uh and making 887 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,839 Speaker 1: moves based off of the fact that I didn't have 888 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 1: a dad. I wanted things to be perfect because I 889 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 1: didn't have it right, or I wanted to try to 890 00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,080 Speaker 1: do the perfect thing in order to make sure that 891 00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,640 Speaker 1: I didn't make my son feel like I felt my 892 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,240 Speaker 1: own suffering had nothing to do with him. Isn't that crazy? 893 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,239 Speaker 1: How that does it to us our parents? Like I 894 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 1: just did my last episode, I said with Kelly Rowland, 895 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,319 Speaker 1: and we're talking about daddy issues and it's like for 896 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,960 Speaker 1: women especially, you know, daddy issues is like a big thing, 897 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,439 Speaker 1: but we never really talked about, like men, what that does? 898 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,839 Speaker 1: What that does? Yeah, well, not being there or either 899 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,440 Speaker 1: being around, but you know, kind of being an absentee 900 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,080 Speaker 1: um And probably because it's just the standards of where 901 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 1: life was for me and back in those times. You know, 902 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,919 Speaker 1: it's always kind of been this idea, you know, don't cry, 903 00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,400 Speaker 1: you soft if you cry. I don't believe in that. 904 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 1: I believe that your kids can't cry, um, but they 905 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:05,400 Speaker 1: need to get up. I need to keep moving. Um. 906 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 1: You know, it's all right to be vulnerable. It's all 907 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,400 Speaker 1: right to to have moments. Uh, don't share them with everybody, 908 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 1: because they ain't everybody's business. But to have a dad 909 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,720 Speaker 1: that you can talk to and you know, be able 910 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 1: to be transparent with to help your kids. I think 911 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,839 Speaker 1: it's important to have that for men in our time. 912 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,080 Speaker 1: Earlier it probably wouldn't. I can't say it because my 913 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,799 Speaker 1: dad wasn't that I wasn't. I didn't have that kind 914 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:33,160 Speaker 1: of relationship with with my dad, you know, but change 915 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,440 Speaker 1: everything about me. I think it made it gave me 916 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:41,719 Speaker 1: true responsibility, you know, it gave purpose for those late, late, 917 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,359 Speaker 1: late nights. Like I did that anyway in my life, 918 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,640 Speaker 1: but as a father, you do it for a different reason, 919 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,440 Speaker 1: with a different outcome, or at least expectation for an outcome. 920 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,520 Speaker 1: Are you a good dad? Do you think now that 921 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:56,080 Speaker 1: you though I can be tough as sometimes, you know, 922 00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,680 Speaker 1: and I think I managed to make everybody feel like 923 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:10,600 Speaker 1: I'm near dad, everybody's daddy kind of sort of everybody's dad. 924 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,320 Speaker 1: I just want everybody to, you know, to be the 925 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 1: greatest man. And what do you ask God foremost? What 926 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,279 Speaker 1: do you pray for? What do I pray for most? 927 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:25,920 Speaker 1: Because it seems like you have everything his grace covering. Um, 928 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,200 Speaker 1: I pray more than anything given thinks that I'm able 929 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,719 Speaker 1: to pray, that I actually have the voice to be 930 00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,279 Speaker 1: able to share it, the fact that He's chosen you 931 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:39,480 Speaker 1: know me, and also two people around as vessels for 932 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,320 Speaker 1: some purpose that could help me through life and also 933 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:46,799 Speaker 1: to help a lot of people. UM. I pray for 934 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,719 Speaker 1: my children. I pray for my loved ones. I pray 935 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,640 Speaker 1: for those who are my soul circle, the people who 936 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,520 Speaker 1: circle I love that, Yeah, the people who matter you know, 937 00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:01,359 Speaker 1: for life, and UM will affect those people who because 938 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,920 Speaker 1: by the way, in this soul circle are all people 939 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,600 Speaker 1: who affect each other. Rather it's my mom or my children, 940 00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,719 Speaker 1: or my ex wife or you know, people who have 941 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,680 Speaker 1: been there. You know what I'm saying, that ship gets hard, 942 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,400 Speaker 1: but you know, UM, but praying a covering over for 943 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,279 Speaker 1: the sake of making sure that as we go into 944 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,759 Speaker 1: the next season or whatever life has to offer. For 945 00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,919 Speaker 1: my kids who have kids, you know that they don't 946 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,000 Speaker 1: bring the same issues that we had in hours into 947 00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,920 Speaker 1: this that we can remedy and fix some of those things. 948 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,520 Speaker 1: You know, what do you think now? Because everybody's purpose? 949 00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:38,160 Speaker 1: I think, well, no, some people they're born, they feel 950 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:39,560 Speaker 1: like they have a purpose, they know what it is. 951 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,400 Speaker 1: Sometimes they change throughout our lives. Do you feel like 952 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:46,319 Speaker 1: you know what yours is? Um? We know it has 953 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,200 Speaker 1: something to do with music so far, but I think 954 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:53,560 Speaker 1: um after that, UM, Rather it's it's an example of 955 00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:59,800 Speaker 1: a business because business has obviously been a part of 956 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 1: my life, not as much as a priority, but to 957 00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:09,480 Speaker 1: be recognized as a businessman that speaks through that. I mean, 958 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,560 Speaker 1: I've been I've made plays, I've I've done things, I've 959 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:16,960 Speaker 1: had involvement in major things. And also to more than anything, 960 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:21,880 Speaker 1: have been um oddly enough for user, for other people 961 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,040 Speaker 1: to be able to be introduced into spaces and have 962 00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,719 Speaker 1: benefited from that, don't get me wrong, UM, but to 963 00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:33,759 Speaker 1: now be in a position to prepare people and to 964 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,120 Speaker 1: create a standard, a standard that we can benefit from, 965 00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,560 Speaker 1: an ecosystem that I think that we can benefit from 966 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:44,319 Speaker 1: better than happen to rely so much on infrastructure that's 967 00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,560 Speaker 1: been set before we got here. So that's really my 968 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,840 Speaker 1: next focus. So you're like going to go back to 969 00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:52,719 Speaker 1: the student. I know you're in this moment, but oh 970 00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:56,680 Speaker 1: my done. Okay, no, no, no, no no done. Matter of fact, 971 00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,719 Speaker 1: I don't care what business I'm in, I'm going to 972 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,160 Speaker 1: you will make music. And also to either be a 973 00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,120 Speaker 1: part of creativity in that space of music, because it's 974 00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,840 Speaker 1: something that I know so well. I understand what it is, 975 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,239 Speaker 1: I understand how to do it, and I don't take 976 00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,920 Speaker 1: it for granted. But I love to be able to 977 00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,239 Speaker 1: be creative in that space. But business that's in a 978 00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,520 Speaker 1: lifestyle that is aspirational, that is a part of our 979 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,839 Speaker 1: culture that leads to some sense of knowledge for all 980 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,360 Speaker 1: of our people to be able to continue to collect 981 00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:30,279 Speaker 1: it and utilize it or either benefit from it. Something 982 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,799 Speaker 1: that's happening already. Is there, is there, There's there's many 983 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,360 Speaker 1: there's many things. You know. Um, you know, me and 984 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,359 Speaker 1: l A Read have been working together, you know, we 985 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:44,759 Speaker 1: we hadn't been working together for a very long time. Um, 986 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,040 Speaker 1: you know, so to be able to be back in 987 00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,000 Speaker 1: each other's lives, and I think that he's been such 988 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:54,760 Speaker 1: a valuable commodity, you know, for so many industries and 989 00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:59,840 Speaker 1: you know, and so many incredible entities. But now to 990 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,680 Speaker 1: be able to come together and have ownership in what 991 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:07,600 Speaker 1: we're building for a future making a label. It's gonna 992 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:12,200 Speaker 1: be that, and then something a network and a label 993 00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:17,160 Speaker 1: or something like this. Very mysterious. Well, but I'm excited 994 00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:21,560 Speaker 1: whatever it is being mysterious because you know we're in 995 00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,640 Speaker 1: the process. But you've seen us together, right, you better 996 00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,799 Speaker 1: watch this, you know what I'm saying. But we we've 997 00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:32,160 Speaker 1: been around each other, um recently, you know, just just 998 00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,080 Speaker 1: reminding ourselves of why we got started and what it 999 00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,480 Speaker 1: was about, where it came from, looking at and analyzing 1000 00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,000 Speaker 1: the things that have happened in life, what could have 1001 00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:44,440 Speaker 1: been better, what we could have done differently, and the 1002 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,640 Speaker 1: importance of our legacy and the aspiration of what it 1003 00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,600 Speaker 1: is that we created, you know, and really being a 1004 00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,880 Speaker 1: product of it through and through, not just talking it 1005 00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:54,719 Speaker 1: because we're talking a lot a lot of us talk 1006 00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:58,600 Speaker 1: about this collaboration and my brothers and we're sticking together, No, 1007 00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:04,120 Speaker 1: really do and it sticking together and building you know 1008 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:11,400 Speaker 1: this sounds exciting. Yeah, did this surprise you? Well, I 1009 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,000 Speaker 1: didn't know it would be as wildly successful as it was. 1010 00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,879 Speaker 1: Thank God for Eddie Bishop Long who created watch this. 1011 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:19,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all ever heard that, you know, 1012 00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:24,239 Speaker 1: I'm you know as a um as a kid, his 1013 00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,080 Speaker 1: sermons I used to go to and he would always 1014 00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,400 Speaker 1: do this, watch this, watch this. Kind of picked it up, 1015 00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,239 Speaker 1: did he? He didn't put that part together? Now, Yeah, 1016 00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,680 Speaker 1: I just my own little remix up. But um and 1017 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,359 Speaker 1: it was a part of you know, confessions, like it's 1018 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,600 Speaker 1: always been on the record, but I never kind of 1019 00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,680 Speaker 1: gave it a little visual. But by the way, memes 1020 00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 1: were not a part of that culture at that time. 1021 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,680 Speaker 1: Um And that was just having fun, man. But y'all 1022 00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:54,359 Speaker 1: definitely watched this because there's something coming. I can't wait 1023 00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,600 Speaker 1: till you're ready to talk about it. Yeah, I look 1024 00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:58,600 Speaker 1: forward to that. Yeah, it's gonna be fun. Thank you 1025 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,839 Speaker 1: for today, Thank you for them easing weekend. We're gonna 1026 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:03,800 Speaker 1: need be roll. I need to show people who please 1027 00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,279 Speaker 1: come back. You're gonna do it for more, right, because 1028 00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,319 Speaker 1: I keep telling people got to see this. Sadly enough, 1029 00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:10,840 Speaker 1: I think by the time this is there will be 1030 00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,319 Speaker 1: it'll be over. So um yeah, please should there be 1031 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,400 Speaker 1: a documentary or something around it? It It has to be. 1032 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:21,520 Speaker 1: It works all stuffing, it's really magical. It really you 1033 00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,800 Speaker 1: bring in so much joy to people. Yeah, very happy 1034 00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:28,560 Speaker 1: to be able to have done it now and be 1035 00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,680 Speaker 1: on the lookout for new music next year. And you 1036 00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:34,920 Speaker 1: are a legend. I am a legend.