WEBVTT - 051323 The Two Parties are Not the Same…What is the Right Wing Death Squad? (Part 1)

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting from the Hip Hop Weekly Studios. I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>welcome you to another episode of Civic Cipher. I'man host

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<v Speaker 1>Ramsey's job.

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<v Speaker 2>He is Ramsey's job, so most of the times I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just Q War today I am Scoop Newsworth.

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<v Speaker 1>According to Ramsey's job, he knows exactly what you'll see

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<v Speaker 1>what he's talking about. Just a second, we got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people stick around for a great show lined

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<v Speaker 1>up for you. We recently had an experience, both Q

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<v Speaker 1>and I with a friend of ours where we had

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<v Speaker 1>to articulate the differences between the two political parties in

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<v Speaker 1>this country where a dear friend of ours, again, a

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<v Speaker 1>dear friend, was trying to say that they're the same

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<v Speaker 1>and there's no reason to engage. And I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>that is a common thought, common feeling amongst people in

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<v Speaker 1>is particular age group, and indeed in our age group

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<v Speaker 1>as well, and so we wanted to point out some

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<v Speaker 1>things that really illustrate some key differences, especially in the

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<v Speaker 1>past let's call it eight to ten years, that you

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<v Speaker 1>should know about if you don't follow politics as closely

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<v Speaker 1>as we need to hear on this show. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things we want you to stick around for.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to be, of course, talking about some recent

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<v Speaker 1>events over the past week, the former president being found

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<v Speaker 1>liable or sexual assault, I believe, and we're also going

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<v Speaker 1>to be talking about the most recent major mass shooting event. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>these are things that kind of fall under our wheelhouse

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<v Speaker 1>here as well, because there is definitely a racial component

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<v Speaker 1>that we need to pay attention to. And we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be talking about a white man for our way

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<v Speaker 1>So a lot to stick around for. But first and foremost,

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<v Speaker 2>Nichols deep knowledge of local issues most important to Detroit residents,

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<v Speaker 2>and listeners wants. Nicholas began her career rather as a

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<v Speaker 2>news reporter at the Utica Observer Dispatch, also holding positions

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<v Speaker 2>at the Detroit News My mom used to work in Utica,

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<v Speaker 2>so shout out to Ford Motor Company in Utica. Nichols,

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<v Speaker 2>who attended Tuskegee and Syracuse Universities will replace, and Jeanette Delgado,

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<v Speaker 2>who is currently serving as an intern executive editor for

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<v Speaker 2>The Free Press, shouts out to w NUC ninety six

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<v Speaker 2>point seven FM in Detroit.

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<v Speaker 1>What up though? Once again? Yeah, thank y'all for carrying

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<v Speaker 1>civiccer and I want to shout out Black Enterprise for

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<v Speaker 1>that story right there. Now you understand why we had

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that you got that off, because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what up dosed that he's able. Don't understand

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<v Speaker 1>anything from Detroit. Shout out to the Motor one time exactly. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about the conversation that we had recently with

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<v Speaker 1>a friend of ours, who is is the word apolitical

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<v Speaker 1>when a person doesn't really is that? Am I saying

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<v Speaker 1>that right?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure right, because I think the A as

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<v Speaker 2>a prefix in that instance would be more prescribed to

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<v Speaker 2>someone who does not follow or care about politics at all.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not really that. Okay, But I said the

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<v Speaker 1>right word, but that doesn't really fit for this. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So let's explain a little bit of background.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's it is right though, because having strong opinions

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<v Speaker 2>while not participating might render you.

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<v Speaker 1>A political right. Okay, maybe there's that. Well, so paying

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a picture of.

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<v Speaker 2>Our dear friend, I think he's kind of the genesis

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<v Speaker 2>of this, kind of the crux of what led to this,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's not singular at all.

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<v Speaker 1>But it gave me a lens into this type of thinking. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's for you.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you finally saw something that I've been dealing

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<v Speaker 2>with for years, not just with him, but with the

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<v Speaker 2>people that we know, which is kind of discouraging.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's this idea and it's really not their fault.

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<v Speaker 2>You and I had a conversation with Charlemagne and to

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<v Speaker 2>God and we were highlighting all of the reasons why

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<v Speaker 2>so many people who would normally vote on the same

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<v Speaker 2>side of the aisle as us and have the same

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<v Speaker 2>interest and want the same political and social outcomes, have

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<v Speaker 2>decided to just kind of tap out and not participate.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's because political parties in this country, this is

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<v Speaker 2>where they do have some similarities, are very much out

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<v Speaker 2>for themselves individual and not their constituencies or the places

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<v Speaker 2>that they come from or the people that vote for them.

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<v Speaker 2>So because politicians have found a way to turn politics

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<v Speaker 2>into a way to just make a lot of money

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<v Speaker 2>for themselves, no matter which way they lean, they can

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<v Speaker 2>be persuaded, they can be lobbied, they can be encouraged

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<v Speaker 2>to do things that are not in anyone's best interest

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<v Speaker 2>in particular, and really not feel a way about it

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<v Speaker 2>either way. In which direction will the most money come from? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let's push forward policy that supports those groups. And when

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<v Speaker 2>you have people who while running for office, making promises

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<v Speaker 2>and give you the impression that they're fighting for you

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<v Speaker 2>only for you to vote for them, and then see

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<v Speaker 2>that that's not their agenda at all, over and over again,

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<v Speaker 2>it really does make you want to just throw up

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<v Speaker 2>your hand and say, Okay, forget it, man, this is

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<v Speaker 2>not benefiting me or my children, or my family or

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<v Speaker 2>my community in any way, any tangible way.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway. Sure, so let's say it this way. Then what

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<v Speaker 1>our friend was trying to say is not, in and

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<v Speaker 1>of itself baseless. There for folks that feel very disconnected

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<v Speaker 1>from outcomes after having cast their vote, we don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to pretend like that the feeling that these people might

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<v Speaker 1>be experiencing is imagine, right. So for folks like him

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<v Speaker 1>who feel maybe exhausted or maybe feel like it's a

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<v Speaker 1>six to one half a dozen of the other, we

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<v Speaker 1>understand that. But what we're going to do today is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of illustrate the difference between bad and worse. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess you know what I mean for those people and

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<v Speaker 1>that that subscribe to that reality. It does, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I understand it. We've actually been very critical of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think that on this show we tend

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<v Speaker 1>to well, first off, the truth has a liberal bias

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<v Speaker 1>to it, no matter what, and this is in fact

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<v Speaker 1>the liberal country. You know, if you surveyed one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>percent of the population, you'd find that most folks have

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<v Speaker 1>a more liberal philosophy to them. And so here we

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<v Speaker 1>like to subscribe to the truth. We own our mistakes,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. But we want to we don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>shy away from the fact that there is a necessity

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<v Speaker 1>to being critical of whatever political party you subscribe to,

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<v Speaker 1>in addition to the opposing political party, and that to

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<v Speaker 1>be critical of any institution is to in effect push

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<v Speaker 1>it to be better, right, holding people accountable, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>in fact what we're talking about today. So first things first,

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<v Speaker 1>this mass shooting this past week, which I know, which

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<v Speaker 1>mass shooting this past week? I know? Yeah, so it

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<v Speaker 1>was the one in Texas at the outdoor mall.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sadly, I'm not being facetious, No, I know there was.

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<v Speaker 3>We had to talk about this on my other show.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a total of eight. But depending on who

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<v Speaker 3>lives and dies, because there's some people still in critical condition,

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<v Speaker 3>and if one more person dies in an additional two

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<v Speaker 3>shooting events, that will be the ultimate deciding factor.

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<v Speaker 1>And insofar as whether or not those additional two events

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<v Speaker 1>will be quite fight as mass shooting events or not.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're we're saying, because those people still got shot,

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<v Speaker 1>whether they die or not. Right, But that there's every

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<v Speaker 1>everyone has to measure. You're you're not wrong, but everyone

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<v Speaker 1>has to agree on a set of statistics that qualify

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<v Speaker 1>a mass shooting event from just a shooting. Right, And

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<v Speaker 1>funnily enough, we'll get there.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is our country to provide semantics in ways

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<v Speaker 2>that they're just not needed.

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<v Speaker 1>We wait until people get shot, but nobody dies and

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<v Speaker 1>it was just a shooting, So waiting wait until we

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<v Speaker 1>get to the end here, But watch this, Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>let's start off here. I'm gonna read from Yahoo. The

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<v Speaker 1>gunman who killed eight people before he was fatally shot

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<v Speaker 1>by a police officer at a Dallas area mall last

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday was wearing a tactical vest with the patch that

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<v Speaker 1>reads r w DS, an acronym which stands for right

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<v Speaker 1>wing Death Squad, a phrase that has been embraced in

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<v Speaker 1>recent years by far right extremists. Or Sigal, vice president

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<v Speaker 1>of the Anti Defamation League's Center on Extremism, told the

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<v Speaker 1>news service that RWDS re emerged in the twenty tens

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<v Speaker 1>among some right wing groups. We used it on stickers, patches,

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<v Speaker 1>in online forums, quote and essentially became a phrase that

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<v Speaker 1>was co opted to demonstrate the opposition to the left

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<v Speaker 1>more broadly by whitestream extremists. Seagull said. Right Wing Desk

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<v Speaker 1>Cloud was the name of these smaller groups that participated

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<v Speaker 1>in the White Nationalists Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville,

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<v Speaker 1>Virginia in August twenty seventeen, where they ran over. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the guys ran over that I forget her name,

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<v Speaker 1>but she was a white woman ally student actually went

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<v Speaker 1>to that school and she lost her life that day. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So before we read further, I want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>this right wing death squad. Okay, So the policies, the culture,

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<v Speaker 1>the ideals of the right in this country, including the media,

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<v Speaker 1>and just the very nature of the political party itself

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<v Speaker 1>can and has indeed yielded this as a result. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>what folks on the right might say to counter this

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<v Speaker 1>point is, well, look at antifa. Antifa is violent. Antifa

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<v Speaker 1>is you know, blah blah blah whatever, which is largely unfounded. However,

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<v Speaker 1>in the incidents that can really substantiate any claim that

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<v Speaker 1>they have, the violence is not directed at human beings,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not directed at any particular racial group. Antifa, for

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<v Speaker 1>folks that are not familiar, is anti fascist Antifa. So

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<v Speaker 1>basically people who hate Nazis, Nazism or any version of

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<v Speaker 1>that re emerging in this country or indeed globally. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's the group of vigilanti fighters that push back against

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<v Speaker 1>basically the foundations of the Nazi Party in Germany and

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<v Speaker 1>what that would re emerge as in this country. Right So,

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<v Speaker 1>you might see people being destructive, starting fires, throwing bricks,

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<v Speaker 1>this sort of stuff, but you won't see any mass shooters.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a different like hate is one thing. Fighting back

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<v Speaker 1>is what I if I was to be as unbiased

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<v Speaker 1>as possible. Fighting back is what I feel like Antifa

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<v Speaker 1>does or exists to do. It's not an organization, so

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<v Speaker 1>far be it for me to paint with broad strokes.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just people who subscribe to a philosophy. But for

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<v Speaker 1>the Antifa folks, the intention is to bring attention to

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<v Speaker 1>or disrupt the movements that are based in fascism or

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<v Speaker 1>indeed seed fascism, whereas the far right extremists actually do

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<v Speaker 1>commit real harm.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, a great example to use is the brother

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<v Speaker 2>who recently got let go by Fox News hyper popular.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, our right wing extreme.

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<v Speaker 2>Idiots, excuse me, I got my allergies kicked in almost Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The guy that said they are trying to replace you

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<v Speaker 1>him to his listeners.

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<v Speaker 2>Some text messages or something leaked recently where an antif

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<v Speaker 2>a supporter got jumped and he was not impressed by

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<v Speaker 2>the amount of harm that was done to I thought

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<v Speaker 2>it should have been far more in the moment he had,

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<v Speaker 2>I think what he even described as a kind of

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<v Speaker 2>ravenous desire for these white men to really show how

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<v Speaker 2>white men can harm people, and didn't feel like they

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<v Speaker 2>were doing enough, a good enough job, just to paint

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<v Speaker 2>you a picture of the differences between the two ideologies.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, this far right wing, right wing extremist while

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<v Speaker 2>seeing this young person get beat up, jumped, stomped on,

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<v Speaker 2>and his own heart, his own mind and his private

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts wanted more, wanted blood, wanted carnage, wanted as much destruction,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's get this guy as close to dead as

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<v Speaker 2>we can. And then tries to walk it back.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm glad you said that, because we don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to seem like we tell half truths over here.

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<v Speaker 2>Unlike him, they tried to walk it back, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think that was just, you know, a way to give

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<v Speaker 2>himself some plausible deniability when when brought to the attention

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<v Speaker 2>of the masters to the public that this is how

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<v Speaker 2>this guy really thinks and feels, because you said it,

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<v Speaker 2>there are no there are no examples to the other extreme.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's no Antifa folks who kill people indiscriminately at

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<v Speaker 1>the mall right, there is an enormous amount.

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<v Speaker 2>And please know that if there was, we know, like lett,

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<v Speaker 2>they would they would make sure that he knew that

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<v Speaker 2>that'd be front page on as many news outlets that

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<v Speaker 2>they control as possible. So let me let me add

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<v Speaker 2>so the fact that they haven't even made it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Let you know that as an idea, it doesn't exist. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>they haven't even in there, and they have shown us

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<v Speaker 2>that being dishonest is not beneath them.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh what, wait until we gets to the second part

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<v Speaker 1>of the show. So what I wanted. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to necessarily focus on the right wing death squad.

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<v Speaker 4>There is no left wing death squad, just clear, exactly,

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<v Speaker 4>And the closest thing would be Antifa in the minds

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<v Speaker 4>of those people who've made them into the villains.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, but Antifa is nowhere near a death squad. The

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<v Speaker 1>only stories that I've encountered, the only people who subscribe

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<v Speaker 1>to that philosophy that I've ever even been made aware of.

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<v Speaker 1>They only attempt to like disrupt, just in the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that they don't call themselves a death squad. Sure, just

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<v Speaker 1>anti fascist, and you shorten it it's antifa, that's it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But if you don't know it stands for anti fascists,

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<v Speaker 1>and you are a right wing person who want to

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<v Speaker 1>get your news from one source, then it very easily

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<v Speaker 1>could become a bad word Antifa. The same way they've

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<v Speaker 1>made socialist bad work, sure, and thank you for that.

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<v Speaker 1>So what I wanted to make sure that we highlight

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<v Speaker 1>is that it's the again culture, It's the ideals, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the policies, and it's the let's call it the framework

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<v Speaker 1>of personalities and personnel in the right that has yielded

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<v Speaker 1>a safe space for a place like right wing death Squad.

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<v Speaker 1>It's yielded fertile soil for that seed to be planted,

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<v Speaker 1>watered continuously by Fox News and bro and sprout into

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<v Speaker 1>a person who would walk into a mall and kill people.

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<v Speaker 1>Now let me continue to read here. According to Heidi Branch,

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<v Speaker 1>co founder of the Global Project Against Hate and Extremism,

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<v Speaker 1>the Proud Boys and neo fascist group of self described

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<v Speaker 1>Western chauviness self described our Google chauvin is free. So

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<v Speaker 1>this group is largely responsible for popularizing the use of

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<v Speaker 1>our wds again, that's right wing Desk Squad among their

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<v Speaker 1>far right. Following the twenty twenty election, members of the

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<v Speaker 1>Proud Boys joined supporters of then President Donald Trump at

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<v Speaker 1>rallies protesting the results. Proud Boys national chairman Enrique Carrillo

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<v Speaker 1>and other leaders of the group were photographed wearing r

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<v Speaker 1>WDS patches at those demonstrations. I am now super curious

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<v Speaker 1>about Enrique. So I know about this guy. Okay, now

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<v Speaker 1>you read his name, makes you think Hispanic person, right,

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<v Speaker 1>a person of Latin descent. Indeed, he is not unlike

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<v Speaker 1>this most recent shooter in the Dallas area in Texas. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>here's a difference. Well, you know what. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk a little bit more about that, but suffice it

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<v Speaker 1>to say that the person who carried out the shooting

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<v Speaker 1>in Dallas, they've done their best to position this individual

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<v Speaker 1>as a Mexican gang member rather than a we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about a little bit more, but they've done their best

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<v Speaker 1>on the right to position him as a Mexican gang

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<v Speaker 1>member rather than a neo Nazi, completely ignoring his huge

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<v Speaker 1>swastika tattoo and the RWDS patch on his clothes and

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<v Speaker 1>all this sort of stuff. And what they're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>do is so doubt in the minds of the people

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<v Speaker 1>who subscribe to their news or The troubling thing is

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<v Speaker 1>they don't need to sew doubt with those they're looking

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<v Speaker 1>for the doubts, and once they got something, they're simply

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<v Speaker 1>saying it is enough. A shred of doubt is enough

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<v Speaker 1>for them to do it. They already feel that way,

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<v Speaker 1>And okay, that's what I thought. Yeah, And it's and

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<v Speaker 1>they ignore the pattern of behavior and the the amount

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<v Speaker 1>of evidence that is building, you know. But uh, well

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk about that a little bit more. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So another thing that people might say on the right is, well, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>you're always blaming white men for these mass shootings who

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<v Speaker 1>go into grocery stores and execute black people intentionally, or

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<v Speaker 1>people who go into churches and kill this group or

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<v Speaker 1>that group or black people intentionally or whatever. But what

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<v Speaker 1>about the transgender shooters?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>So, for the uninitiated, and it might have been Nashville,

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks back school shooting, person who was

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<v Speaker 1>trans had gone to the school and she shot the

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<v Speaker 1>school up. And I don't like talking about this. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just so sad and I have to like keep my composure,

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<v Speaker 1>forgive me. Everyone. So this person identified openly as trans, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But what they did was they tried to establish a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of other examples of folks who identified as trans.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think there was three in total, including the

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<v Speaker 1>most recent shooter in Nashville school shooter, and one of

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<v Speaker 1>those examples was a person who tried to identify as

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<v Speaker 1>trans in the last moments so that he would not

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<v Speaker 1>be charged with a hate crime. Right, very obvious that

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<v Speaker 1>that was what was happening, because there was no evidence

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<v Speaker 1>or anything like that prior to this. And indeed, this

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<v Speaker 1>person who was in Colorado, this person's father was on

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<v Speaker 1>the news saying some wild stuff. Anyway, you feel free

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<v Speaker 1>to look it up. I know I'm not giving you

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<v Speaker 1>all the details. We have to walk a fine line

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<v Speaker 1>here between glorifying these people's names and all this stuff

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<v Speaker 1>and really just kind of painting a broad picture with

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<v Speaker 1>broad strokes. It's not that kind of show here, but

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<v Speaker 1>we recognize patterns. The thing is of those three one

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<v Speaker 1>and a half might have had some credibility to it,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's enough for the folks on the right to

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<v Speaker 1>excuse mountain of evidence that clearly suggests that there is

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<v Speaker 1>a problem with the far right, with far right ideologies,

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<v Speaker 1>and these people are being radicalized. They in fact, are

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<v Speaker 1>the terrorists that they tried to make out folks from

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<v Speaker 1>the Middle East to be around the turn of the century,

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<v Speaker 1>the early two thousands. For those that weren't around back then,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a time in this country, and it hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>really fully subsided where people. I don't know that it

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<v Speaker 1>ever will, but this time has not. This time in

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<v Speaker 1>the country, people were very prejudiced and discriminated openly against

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<v Speaker 1>folks who had roots in the Middle East. Folks will

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<v Speaker 1>also point to a couple of examples of black mass shooters,

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<v Speaker 1>most recently the one in Atlanta, but that was based

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<v Speaker 1>on and first off, trans people. A lot of times

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<v Speaker 1>they're bullied, which you know, that's a thing that happens,

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<v Speaker 1>something we have to deal with. It's not as prevalent

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<v Speaker 1>as indeed the white mass shooters are. This black gentleman

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<v Speaker 1>in the Atlanta hospital, he was mad at a doctor

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<v Speaker 1>for not giving him certain pills that he needed to

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<v Speaker 1>addict it to the hospital's pills, shoots the hospital up.

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<v Speaker 1>We will see that in its entirety, but we can't

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<v Speaker 1>ignore the prevalence of white male mass shooters. And folks

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<v Speaker 1>always point to gun violence as well. That's a different

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<v Speaker 1>type of terrorism and indiscriminate shooting at crowds. We have

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that we say that as well, so

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<v Speaker 1>again the two parties are not the same. Will continue

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<v Speaker 1>in just a minute