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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome to the naught even nice, am your host,

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Speaker 2: wrong shooter and it is Friday, which means our dear

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Speaker 2: friend Corey Andrew joins us. Hey, Corey, are you there?

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Speaker 2: I am here with bells on. You sounded delicious, darm

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Speaker 2: and I can finally speak, So thank you Naughties for

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Speaker 2: sticking with me for the last three or four days.

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Speaker 2: I was quite sicky. I had this horrible summer cold

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Speaker 2: and then finally shaken off. But I was such a

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Speaker 2: good boy. There was drinks last night with a friend

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Speaker 2: of mine that I desperately wanted to go. I had

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Speaker 2: to post that I just Corey, I'd been sick for

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Speaker 2: four days. I've been moping around the house. I'm a

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Speaker 2: horrible sixth person. I've been making Bruce run up and

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Speaker 2: and trotted out this house. My god, he would have

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Speaker 2: been like, I just looked after you for four days,

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Speaker 2: Where are you going? What are you doing? So thankfully

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Speaker 2: I stayed home. I think that's the nicest thing about

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Speaker 2: getting older is I'm not quite as desperate. I don't

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Speaker 2: feel like I'm missing out on stuff anymore. I used

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Speaker 2: to when I was little, I'd go to everything. I

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Speaker 2: was almost like, is it called fear of missing out? Right?

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Speaker 1: But you know, Rob, it's so funny. I'm the same way.

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Speaker 1: Like you know, when we first got to New York

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Speaker 1: and tried this whole thing again, I was so desperate

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Speaker 1: opening of an envelope if I could have. And now

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Speaker 1: I get all the invites and I'm like, maybe no,

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Speaker 2: Flops and like watching TV with haggin Das. You know,

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Speaker 2: I'd rather be here behind my phone talking with all

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Speaker 2: the naughties. But I am feeling better. So thank you,

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Speaker 2: thank you. Let's jump into our show. What time is it?

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Speaker 2: My friends? It is time. Big story at the top

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Speaker 2: of the Shaw So Ambarell, the Worst Cooks in America host,

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Speaker 2: fifty five years old, was found dead in the shower

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Speaker 2: in her Brooklyn apartment, surrounded by pills. Now authorities it's

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Speaker 2: been about three four maybe five weeks. Authorities have ruled

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Speaker 2: that it was a suicide by overdose Benna drill and booze.

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Speaker 2: But in a circle is pushing back. So I've known

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Speaker 2: Anne for at least a decade. A friend of mine

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Speaker 2: even dated her husband's stewart before they were together, although

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Speaker 2: the exchange got a little sloppy at the end. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna say no more. So I've known Nan, I've always

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Speaker 2: really liked her. She told me once that she just

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Speaker 2: didn't feel pretty enough to be on TV because she

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Speaker 2: didn't look like a stereotypical model, and she she really

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Speaker 2: felt that, and so I know she struggled. However, friends

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Speaker 2: was hugging, she was laughing. None of this makes any sense, now,

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Speaker 2: I should point out here, just because on the outside

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Speaker 2: you look really happy, it doesn't mean anything. You know,

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Speaker 2: naught is. We can all put on a smile, we

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Speaker 2: I don't want us all to think that, oh my goodness,

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Speaker 2: she couldn't possibly, couldn't possibly have committed suicide. That isn't

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Speaker 2: how it works. It's all heartbreaking, but there are still

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Speaker 2: a lot of questions. Was this an accidental overdose? I

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Speaker 2: don't think a note was found. Often people that commit

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Speaker 2: suicide they know it's suicide because of the note. Otherwise

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Speaker 2: it could have been an accidental overdose. I don't think.

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Speaker 2: There are still some questions, So I understand why her

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Speaker 1: Well, also too, people have to realize people famous people

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Speaker 2: I don't think there was a suicide. Note was this

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Speaker 2: Monday to hear your results. Hey, Corey Love, what are

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Speaker 1: Well, unfortunately it's another story about grieving sadly enough, but

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Speaker 1: But anyway, she's strong, many people say, you know, but

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Speaker 2: It's heartbreaking. I know the children of some celebrities, and

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Speaker 2: I'm happy for ten minutes, or if I get a

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Speaker 2: then you go back to your baseline of happiness. Make

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Speaker 2: It's something you have to learn. You have to learn

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Speaker 2: It's like cleaning your teeth. It's something that you should

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Speaker 1: You've said it before, You've said it behind the sure

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Speaker 1: you said happiness is a choice. We've said it's a choice.

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Speaker 2: It's a choice. And I know circumstances are awful, and

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Speaker 2: I know a lot of people, including myself, can be like, oh,

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Speaker 2: how ridiculous. You can choose to be happy because you're rich, Sure,

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Speaker 2: But the days that I don't feel well, I have

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Speaker 2: I rush into that bathroom. I know Brice must think

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Speaker 2: that bathroom and I look in that mirror and I say,

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Speaker 2: It's a muscle. It literally is.

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Speaker 1: Past affirmations are really important to.

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Speaker 2: Is a habit naughty? So okay, moving along. This story

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Speaker 1: Well, you know it's kind of nice, but I have

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Speaker 1: You know, he's he's he's just really not jealous.

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